| 00:05.43 | khonkhortisan | the whole menu system can be navigated with just a two-button mouse (except for typing letters and assigning keys, of course) |
| 00:09.01 | jeffm | so what do macs do? |
| 00:09.28 | khonkhortisan | alt-click shift-click ctrl-click mac-click |
| 00:09.40 | khonkhortisan | I didn't add in mouse movement for focus yet |
| 00:09.46 | jeffm | don't do this now |
| 00:09.50 | khonkhortisan | mac just keep using keyboard |
| 00:09.52 | khonkhortisan | okay |
| 00:10.05 | jeffm | it's a huge change that has to be planed out |
| 00:10.30 | jeffm | you don't want to work on anything that is on the 2.4.x list? |
| 00:11.46 | jeffm | if we are going to add mouse movement, we should redo the gui to take advantage of it at the same time, give the buttons borders and the like |
| 00:12.25 | jeffm | and there should be a proposal with pictures written up so people can review and comment before it's just coded up |
| 00:15.59 | khonkhortisan | sure the gui would need a review but the functionality can be changed without changing the gui |
| 00:16.17 | khonkhortisan | I see them as separate things |
| 00:16.26 | jeffm | I think you are going to piss people off if you do it with out a plan |
| 00:16.30 | jeffm | but it's your work |
| 00:16.39 | jeffm | just don't be suprized if it gets reverted |
| 00:17.27 | jeffm | code with no plan is how we got into this mess |
| 00:22.03 | jeffm | you're the only one doing work, so it may not matter |
| 00:24.11 | khonkhortisan | I'll try to stay on this side of 2.6 |
| 00:43.58 | jeffm | that would probably be for the best |
| 00:44.21 | jeffm | the short-term problems need to be solved before we can think about the long term ones |
| 00:44.54 | jeffm | it would be nice to redo the gui, but if we can't even get a basic release out with bug fixes then it's not going to solve any problems. |
| 00:46.31 | jeffm | it befuddles me that nobody else sees this issue |
| 00:46.35 | jeffm | perhaps I am wrong |
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| 03:49.50 | khonkhortisan | BzfMotionEvent and HUDuiControl don't agree on which direction is up (which makes it look like the mouse is mirrored ) so I need to get the window height from HUDui |
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| 03:52.25 | DTRemenak | khonkhortisan: I rewrote the way the HUDui system works in 2.99. Should be a lot easier to understand, and more consistent. |
| 03:52.39 | DTRemenak | all the navigation stuff is completely different |
| 03:54.47 | DTRemenak | and I intend to backport the whole lot at some point. didn't do it for 2.4 because it's all tied up with the font renderer, and that's all tied up with the UTF8 conversion. |
| 03:55.31 | DTRemenak | new server list menus and all would come with that too. |
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| 22:51.26 | blast007 | khonkhortisan: that 'Blender' wiki page should just be merged into http://wiki.bzflag.org/BZWTools |
| 22:51.50 | blast007 | (and I have a mirror of the BZWTools linked from that page) |
| 23:49.16 | allejo | any options on the bzbb to block one user from sending you pms? The only thing I can think of is to autodelete messages from that user |
| 23:51.01 | blast007 | who is it? |
| 23:51.15 | JeffM | set them as your enimy |
| 23:51.18 | JeffM | I belive that does it |
| 23:51.25 | blast007 | first one that comes to mind is "dazzling124" |
| 23:51.35 | blast007 | and I think that may just work for public messages, not PMs |
| 23:51.40 | blast007 | but I haven't tried it myself |
| 23:51.43 | JeffM | maybe |
| 23:51.48 | JeffM | it's worth a try |
| 23:53.53 | allejo | blast007, you hit the nail right on the head ;) |
| 23:54.10 | blast007 | he's an annoying little bugger, isn't he? |
| 23:54.14 | allejo | i have him as a foe and I have a PM rule to auto delete all messages from foes |
| 23:54.29 | allejo | so it'll do, i was just wondering if there was better solution |
| 23:54.31 | blast007 | a PM rule? |
| 23:54.38 | allejo | and tell me about, he's so annoying |
| 23:54.48 | blast007 | ah, neat, there is rules isn't there |
| 23:54.57 | JeffM | cool so foe can work |
| 23:55.23 | allejo | blast007, yea you can set rules under Rules, Folders & Settings I think is the tab under PMs |
| 23:55.33 | blast007 | there's also an "if sender is blah" thing you could do |
| 23:55.44 | blast007 | in rules, that is |
| 23:56.54 | allejo | yea, I just set up "foe" to make it easier for me for future rules |
| 23:56.59 | blast007 | yup |
| 23:57.26 | blast007 | too bad there isn't an action like "shock the user with 120V" or something more useful than just deleting the message |
| 23:58.06 | blast007 | allejo: just out of curiously - how old would you think that Dazzling124 is? |
| 23:58.20 | blast007 | keep in mind that his primary language is "Engish!" |
| 23:58.37 | allejo | I honestly think he's anywhere from 6-8 |
| 23:58.37 | JeffM | really? |
| 23:58.44 | allejo | or at least he acts like it |
| 23:58.44 | JeffM | got any proof? |
| 23:58.47 | blast007 | he says he's 13 :) |
| 23:58.54 | JeffM | raise the age to 15 |
| 23:58.59 | blast007 | heh |
| 23:59.01 | allejo | JeffM, well his IP is from Illinois |
| 23:59.02 | JeffM | and require a paypal acount |
| 23:59.34 | allejo | and I doubt there too many imigrants in the middle of the US with no knowledge of English |
| 23:59.50 | JeffM | you'd be supriosed |