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| 01:57.14 | Delusional | I just found an easily repeatable way to freeze my mac 2.4.0 client. Press F4 |
| 01:57.56 | blast007 | hmm, weird. That's supposed to launch a webpage to buy a copy of Windows 7. Guess we'll need to check on that. |
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| 01:58.41 | Delusional | it freezes, doesn't "crash" |
| 02:00.40 | JeffM | can you get to the OS and kill it? |
| 02:01.35 | allejo | F4 on a mac minimizes the client if it's windowed. so I'm assuming if you try minimizing it while in fullscreen, something will happen |
| 02:01.56 | allejo | option+command+esc should quit any full screen app |
| 02:02.13 | blast007 | Option-Shift-Command-Esc (hold for three seconds) - Force Quit front-most application |
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| 02:05.46 | JeffM | I belive we just ask SDL to minimize |
| 02:06.26 | I_Died_Once | SDL, would you please minimize? |
| 02:06.29 | blast007 | could just need a newer SDL |
| 02:06.47 | blast007 | was probably a 1.2 build |
| 02:23.00 | Delusional | yeah, i can force quir |
| 02:23.25 | JeffM | well not much we can do if we can't build on mac |
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| 02:29.13 | blast007 | if someone buys me a mac, I'll see if I can reproduce the issue ;) |
| 02:30.04 | blast007 | actually, scratch that, I'd not even want one at this point.. |
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| 04:55.04 | apeman_ | whats the make command to compile bzfs with debug info? |
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| 04:58.39 | allejo | --enable-debug |
| 05:04.25 | apeman_ | make --enable-debug doesn't work |
| 05:04.53 | jeffm | debug goes on config not make |
| 05:05.34 | jeffm | do we even build in debug in gcc? did we fix all the warnings? |
| 05:07.25 | apeman_ | bzfs not built with debug info by default |
| 05:07.48 | jeffm | none of them are |
| 05:09.45 | jeffm | are you having crashes? |
| 05:12.05 | BulletCatcher | apeman_: Do a "make distclean" then add --enable-debug to your configure command. |
| 05:12.46 | apeman_ | i am debugging crashes but not the releases fault |
| 05:13.03 | jeffm | fun |
| 05:15.06 | BulletCatcher | Where in SVN is the file that http://my.BZFlag.org/db/ points to? |
| 05:15.07 | BulletCatcher | I can't find it under bzflag/trunk/web . |
| 05:16.25 | apeman_ | thanks for that BC |
| 05:16.34 | BulletCatcher | You're welcome. |
| 05:16.53 | jeffm | should be bzfls in web BulletCatcher |
| 05:17.02 | jeffm | web/bzfls/bzfls.php |
| 05:17.09 | jeffm | I don't think we are using bzfls2 yet |
| 05:17.44 | jeffm | ls == "list server" |
| 05:17.52 | BulletCatcher | Got it. Thanks. |
| 05:17.56 | jeffm | sure |
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| 05:21.07 | BulletCatcher | It looks like we need to adjust our query for player group membership to respect the "Exempt group leader from permissions" setting. |
| 05:21.41 | BulletCatcher | I have a new group where the leaders should not be considered members. |
| 05:22.33 | jeffm | seriously? |
| 05:22.49 | jeffm | man we are so abbusing phpbb groups |
| 05:24.02 | BulletCatcher | This isn't abuse. I just want the full functionality exposed. :-) |
| 05:24.25 | jeffm | that setting is phpbb permissions, not bzbb permisions |
| 05:24.41 | jeffm | permissions are always on the game server |
| 05:24.45 | jeffm | so it's abuse |
| 05:24.47 | jeffm | ;) |
| 05:25.06 | jeffm | I admit I can see how it'd be useful |
| 05:26.47 | BulletCatcher | The purpose of this group is to mute certain players using !TALK in the bzfs groups file. |
| 05:26.48 | BulletCatcher | The leaders of the group, who will manage its membership, do not want to be muted. |
| 05:27.05 | jeffm | sure, that's how i can see it being useful |
| 05:27.10 | jeffm | I don't think it's a bad thing to do |
| 05:27.19 | jeffm | it's just funny |
| 05:29.38 | jeffm | does php have a setting to prevent those users from leaving the group? |
| 05:31.06 | BulletCatcher | Users cannot remove themselves from a "closed" group. |
| 05:31.38 | jeffm | then yeah totally sounds like a good feature to add to bzfls |
| 05:32.42 | BulletCatcher | Yup. Exempting leaders from membership seems to be the last technical obstacle to deployment. |
| 05:33.11 | I_Died_Once | set up a dummy account to head the group that you wouldnt use to play? |
| 05:33.52 | jeffm | respecting the checkbox is a cleaner thing to do |
| 05:33.56 | khonkhortisan | people don't like dummy accounts, it means the accounting software isn't doing something right |
| 05:34.14 | jeffm | it should be an easy change to bzfls |
| 05:34.24 | jeffm | once you find the field that gets set in the DB |
| 05:34.32 | BulletCatcher | That would work, I_Died_Once, but doesn't fit well with the existing management structure. |
| 05:34.59 | jeffm | no need to cheese when we can just do it right with a server change |
| 05:35.31 | khonkhortisan | does that mean a protocol break? |
| 05:35.36 | jeffm | nope |
| 05:35.45 | jeffm | it's a bzfls only change |
| 05:35.52 | jeffm | it just changes what groups are returned |
| 05:36.21 | jeffm | the game proto is not tied to phpbb |
| 05:43.26 | BulletCatcher | I am guessing that the flag I want is in the group_desc_bitfield column of the phpbb_groups table, but I may have to examine the code to find out how it is encoded. |
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| 12:02.46 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: I do not want to hack up our group system any further. If we want to be able to exempt the group leader/founder from being a "member" of said group, we should rewrite the system as an actual group manager. |
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| 23:14.17 | Snake12534 | hey |
| 23:14.23 | JeffM | hello |
| 23:14.24 | Snake12534 | anyone here? |
| 23:14.27 | Snake12534 | oh hey |
| 23:14.36 | Snake12534 | im new to this website strayers |
| 23:14.45 | Snake12534 | came here to check my teammates on the reptiles |
| 23:15.09 | Snake12534 | so on this chat server no one talks? |
| 23:15.17 | JeffM | not as fast as you do |
| 23:15.22 | JeffM | this is mostly for development |
| 23:15.29 | JeffM | strayers is an independent site |
| 23:16.23 | JeffM | his chat link just rediects to the webchat for freenode IIRC |
| 23:16.53 | Snake12534 | ??? |
| 23:16.56 | Snake12534 | i dont really understand ya |
| 23:17.00 | Snake12534 | and i chat really fast |
| 23:17.05 | Snake12534 | no one here does though |
| 23:17.14 | JeffM | freenode is a network that provides IRC service for open source projects |
| 23:17.23 | JeffM | this is the channel for development and management of bzflag |
| 23:17.28 | Snake12534 | btw way ppl i really need an active member of GU league to join my team |
| 23:17.31 | Snake12534 | oh i see |
| 23:17.40 | Snake12534 | wheres the channel where alot of ppl chill and chat |
| 23:17.41 | JeffM | strayer just made a link that says "bzchat" that sends a webchat client here |
| 23:17.54 | JeffM | about bzflag, not here |
| 23:17.58 | Snake12534 | why dont i get a plus by my name? |
| 23:18.00 | JeffM | we have bzflag-chat |
| 23:18.05 | JeffM | in game or here? |
| 23:18.07 | Snake12534 | where? |
| 23:18.10 | Snake12534 | here? |
| 23:18.24 | JeffM | because this IRC server has nothing to do with bzflag |
| 23:18.29 | Snake12534 | ohhhh |
| 23:18.33 | Snake12534 | so where is it then? |
| 23:18.43 | JeffM | it hosts rooms for thousandads of projects |
| 23:18.50 | JeffM | it's spread all over the world |
| 23:19.09 | Snake12534 | well... bye im gonna go ob bz |
| 23:19.13 | JeffM | have fun |
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