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| 04:51.26 | Constitution | jeffm: does W32VC8 refer to 32-bit builds of windows? |
| 04:51.45 | jeffm | old ones but yes |
| 04:51.56 | jeffm | using vc 2005 |
| 04:52.48 | Constitution | and 'D' is added on the end for debug builds? |
| 04:53.07 | jeffm | usualy |
| 04:53.31 | jeffm | in bzflag I belive I did that |
| 04:54.01 | Constitution | I wrote this for Xcode builds: http://pastebin.com/38WRjHdd |
| 04:54.09 | Constitution | but it does not appear consistent across all platforms |
| 04:54.45 | jeffm | windows isn't |
| 04:54.53 | jeffm | cis linux doesn't have one IIRC |
| 04:55.07 | Constitution | doesn't have one what? |
| 04:55.16 | jeffm | a build string like windows |
| 04:55.27 | jeffm | does the current bz build say VC8? |
| 04:55.32 | jeffm | it should say VC10 |
| 04:55.45 | Constitution | I dunno, I was just looking in MSVC/build/config.h |
| 04:55.55 | jeffm | ahh |
| 04:56.00 | jeffm | then yeah I need to update it |
| 04:56.09 | jeffm | I don't think we ever cared about being consistent |
| 04:56.23 | jeffm | but if you want to, come up with a method and we'll use it on all platforms |
| 04:57.22 | jeffm | in yours, I can't understand what would be OSX and not 32 bit and not 64 bit |
| 04:57.55 | Constitution | if it's not an LLVM compiler, those definitions aren't guaranteed to be there |
| 04:58.06 | Constitution | in theory probably won't happen |
| 04:58.14 | jeffm | ahh |
| 04:58.15 | Constitution | s/theory/practice/ |
| 04:58.28 | jeffm | sure, so future proofing it and making it work on old systems |
| 04:58.33 | jeffm | then that makes sense |
| 04:58.41 | jeffm | a comment to that effect would be good |
| 04:59.30 | Constitution | old systems will still generate the entire config.h automatically with autotools. future systems may not be "MacOSX" at all ;) but yeah it's a step I guess |
| 05:00.06 | jeffm | heh future apple systems won't let bzflag run ;) |
| 05:00.25 | Constitution | the current OS X BZ_BUILD_OS definition is generated by autotools (darwin##.## IIRC), but for the life of me I couldn't determine what the #'s signified, or how to determine them outside of autotools |
| 05:00.40 | Constitution | otherwise I would just keep it consistent with the move to Xcode |
| 05:00.55 | jeffm | darwin is kinda generic |
| 05:01.02 | jeffm | it'd be nice to see the Xcode version |
| 05:01.32 | jeffm | I had to hardcode mine and that didn't work out so well ;) |
| 05:02.27 | Constitution | is that something that will actually work across all platforms? |
| 05:03.49 | jeffm | is what something? |
| 05:04.12 | Constitution | putting the IDE version in the build string |
| 05:04.48 | jeffm | nothing works across all platforms ;) |
| 05:05.11 | jeffm | but something could probably be done to get it or something like it on all platforms |
| 05:05.20 | jeffm | at least from the compiler |
| 05:05.27 | jeffm | linux doesn't have an 'ide' |
| 05:07.42 | Constitution | and yeah it looks like the 2.4.2 official builds say W32VC8 |
| 05:08.56 | jeffm | then I suck, it should be VC10 |
| 05:14.52 | Constitution | well, there is "setenv XCODE_VERSION_ACTUAL 0452" |
| 05:15.46 | Constitution | for Xcode 4.5.2. could be extracted by a script and placed in config.h if we want to do that, and if the other platforms can |
| 05:16.34 | jeffm | there is no way to ensure each platform will have the same format or the same number of items |
| 05:16.54 | jeffm | I'd have each platform have a specific section |
| 05:17.03 | jeffm | cis windows just has "VC10" |
| 05:18.18 | jeffm | I think consistency is less important then indentification |
| 05:18.29 | jeffm | the point of it is so that we can tell what made a build |
| 05:19.35 | Constitution | well, hard-coding "32" and "VC8" into the source code doesn't really accomplish that |
| 05:19.47 | jeffm | yep |
| 05:19.47 | Constitution | especially if the project file supports building 64-bit on windows |
| 05:19.53 | jeffm | it didn't at first |
| 05:20.01 | jeffm | I can make it more like you did in xcode |
| 05:20.11 | jeffm | and I'm sure linux can do similar enough |
| 05:20.39 | jeffm | the way the windows one is now is not the way the windows one has to be ;) |
| 05:21.50 | Constitution | okay, so I'll make it like Mac32XC452, plus DBG if it's debug |
| 05:22.09 | jeffm | thats probably decent enough |
| 05:22.23 | jeffm | I'll try to remember to give it the right VC and 64 tomorow |
| 05:22.26 | Constitution | so we'll have platform, 32 vs 64 bit, compiler-ish, and debug or not |
| 05:22.31 | Constitution | ok |
| 05:22.34 | jeffm | tho I have no idea why we even build 64 on windows |
| 05:24.28 | Constitution | can you make it auto-detect? |
| 05:24.39 | jeffm | sure |
| 05:24.44 | jeffm | there are #defs for each one |
| 05:24.48 | Constitution | cool |
| 05:24.59 | jeffm | I can even make it do VC8/9/10 based on some other Defs |
| 05:25.06 | jeffm | probably should do 11 too |
| 05:25.13 | Constitution | that'd be handy |
| 05:25.30 | jeffm | not really, since I we don't have a project for 8 and 9 |
| 05:25.39 | jeffm | 11 can be done with an upgrade |
| 05:25.45 | jeffm | if it builds at all |
| 05:28.49 | Constitution | laughs about filling up people's server logs with experimental client strings |
| 05:29.07 | jeffm | guy will ban you as a cheater |
| 05:29.27 | jeffm | guu |
| 05:29.29 | jeffm | sorry |
| 05:30.53 | Constitution | I have already seen some weird android bzadmin client string |
| 05:31.16 | Constitution | maybe we should set a standard for it |
| 05:31.28 | jeffm | we can try |
| 05:32.03 | jeffm | write it up in devinfo |
| 05:33.19 | Constitution | should make the list server do sanity checking before sending back any info ;) |
| 05:33.34 | jeffm | the list server? |
| 05:33.49 | jeffm | I'd not go overboard |
| 05:34.17 | Constitution | yeah I was mostly joking |
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| 11:30.43 | blast007 | Constitution: that would require that the list server be sane first. |
| 11:30.44 | blast007 | :P |
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| 18:24.22 | BulletCatcher | Does anyone recommend an SSH client for Android? |
| 18:24.23 | BulletCatcher | I am hoping to stay connected while traveling without a traditional laptop. |
| 18:30.19 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: perhaps this? I haven't used it myself, though. https://code.google.com/p/connectbot/ |
| 18:32.28 | BulletCatcher | That's the one that looks most promising, but I am hoping to find someone with actual experience with an Android SSH client. |
| 18:33.53 | blast007 | root the device, install Ubuntu, and use OpenSSH ;) |
| 18:34.46 | BulletCatcher | The device in question is Mrs. Catcher's. She wouldn't put up with that, unfortunately. |
| 18:36.06 | blast007 | hehe |
| 18:36.22 | blast007 | that's what chroots are for :) |
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| 18:37.51 | BulletCatcher | Also, I figured I would try the native way before anything else. |
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