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| 00:42.49 | alpha1-2 | why was I kicked? :P |
| 00:43.05 | blast007 | probably cuz of all the name changes |
| 00:43.25 | alpha1-2 | oh i was checking them :P |
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| 05:13.29 | khonkhortisan | I was driving with leader bzf (bzadmin) and then I pressed F8 and now I'm stuck roaming |
| 05:17.30 | allejo | F8 again |
| 05:17.40 | allejo | if not F6/F7 |
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| 16:06.38 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org || https://www.ohloh.net/p/bzflag || http://wiki.BZFlag.org/Getting_Help || Channel Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || 2.4.2 is the current version |
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| 17:25.04 | JeffM | Will they stop with the mobile posts! |
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| 17:34.53 | alezakos | JeffM, you're welcome |
| 17:35.53 | JeffM | colaboration is good :) |
| 17:36.05 | JeffM | is being positive |
| 17:36.31 | JeffM | even in the face Tim's attempt to dampen it all |
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| 18:06.35 | blast007 | Last seen : Jan 19 00:03:56 2013 (6 days, 18:02:27 ago) |
| 18:06.37 | blast007 | sigh |
| 18:16.50 | JeffM | yup |
| 18:17.06 | JeffM | not even so much as a 'Hey guys I'm going out of town so it'll be a bit" |
| 18:48.07 | JeffM | he tweeted on the 8th |
| 18:49.38 | blast007 | yeah, about the nameserver that was down. |
| 18:59.52 | JeffM | I'm going to follow him :) |
| 19:00.13 | blast007 | stalker ;) |
| 19:00.20 | JeffM | and Adam Savage |
| 19:00.25 | JeffM | cus.. booms |
| 19:01.21 | JeffM | well it mans he got an email from twitter just now that says I'm watching :) |
| 19:02.06 | blast007 | lol |
| 19:12.47 | khonkhortisan | I can see my tank's wheels as observer when I park it on the side of a teleporter even though the treads are covering it |
| 19:13.53 | JeffM | screenshot? |
| 19:14.05 | blast007 | JeffM: hmm, .ag domains are "only" $89/year through name.com... too bad namecheap doesn't have them, though. |
| 19:15.48 | khonkhortisan | http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=8027737 |
| 19:18.44 | JeffM | interesting |
| 19:19.13 | JeffM | i's probably getting confused from the transpereant field quad |
| 19:19.53 | JeffM | trans stuff with out a proper BSP is not easy |
| 19:21.46 | blast007 | khonkhortisan: what Linux distribution is that? |
| 19:22.34 | khonkhortisan | openSuSE 12.1 with KDE 4.7.2 release 5 |
| 19:23.12 | blast007 | was that a custom build of BZFlag, or a package? wondering where that old skool icon is coming from. |
| 19:23.12 | khonkhortisan | better picture: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=d5fc29f |
| 19:23.21 | khonkhortisan | compiled |
| 19:23.40 | blast007 | that icon is like the old 1.7 icon... |
| 19:26.16 | khonkhortisan | I think it's recognizing it's the same program and using a system icon |
| 19:27.08 | khonkhortisan | /usr/share/pixmaps/bzflag.png |
| 19:28.39 | blast007 | there's also xpm files in /trunk/bzflag/package/rpm/ with that icon |
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| 19:43.06 | khonkhortisan | both the rpm and compiled versions use that icon. Even if I change it in the menu editor, it only stays changed in the menu. |
| 20:02.24 | blast007 | khonkhortisan: and you have a copy of the game installed from their official packages? |
| 20:17.03 | JeffM | HAHAH oh god I remember that Icon |
| 20:17.08 | JeffM | I made that SO long ago |
| 20:17.39 | JeffM | had a hell of a time matching the font |
| 20:19.05 | JeffM | kierra, want to do me a favor? |
| 21:14.02 | khonkhortisan | yes I do, from obs://build.opensuse.org/games |
| 21:14.34 | kierra | sure, Jeff |
| 21:14.52 | kierra | well, if its in the realm of my possibilities |
| 21:15.16 | kierra | JeffM: pong |
| 21:15.45 | khonkhortisan | JeffM, ping pong |
| 21:16.52 | kierra | :) |
| 21:17.07 | JeffM | kierra, wannna find out who owns the @bzflag twitter account |
| 21:17.30 | kierra | how do i do that? |
| 21:17.39 | JeffM | khonkhortisan, we should get them to use the current icon |
| 21:17.42 | JeffM | kierra, I have no idea |
| 21:17.59 | kierra | ah, ok, let me see if i can figure that out |
| 21:18.10 | JeffM | but you know people who know people who know things |
| 21:18.24 | kierra | remember: Don't rush the miracle woman....you get rotten miracles |
| 21:18.30 | JeffM | heh |
| 21:18.34 | JeffM | oh no rush at ALL |
| 21:18.37 | khonkhortisan | that's one of the lessons from the avatar movie |
| 21:18.44 | kierra | smile, JeffM |
| 21:18.50 | JeffM | I just think we should start the process |
| 21:18.59 | kierra | @ khonk, it's a line from Princess Bride |
| 21:19.09 | JeffM | khonkhortisan, you mean pokahontas? |
| 21:19.18 | khonkhortisan | okay, so it's common. |
| 21:19.57 | blast007 | if BZFlag was trademarked, it'd be easier |
| 21:19.59 | JeffM | no that's a direct line from PB :) |
| 21:20.09 | blast007 | maybe |
| 21:20.10 | JeffM | have fun storming the castle |
| 21:20.55 | kierra | I wonder if he's using the same wind we are |
| 21:21.03 | JeffM | anybody want a peanut? |
| 21:21.48 | khonkhortisan | bzflagsocial is empty, bzflag has only 5 posts, bzdispute has only three posts |
| 21:21.55 | kierra | inconceivable |
| 21:22.02 | JeffM | but realy just something to think about when you talk to people kierra |
| 21:22.11 | khonkhortisan | I mean tweets |
| 21:22.21 | JeffM | khonkhortisan, yeah the social one I care less about, it's the one that has the name |
| 21:22.31 | JeffM | I'd like to have access to it |
| 21:22.36 | JeffM | at some point in time |
| 21:22.53 | khonkhortisan | to tweet as @bzflag instead of tweeting to it? |
| 21:23.01 | JeffM | yes |
| 21:23.12 | JeffM | or to let the community manager tweet as bzflag ;) |
| 21:23.24 | JeffM | it's all about Roles |
| 21:23.58 | JeffM | blast007, if I did the corp I could trademark it if we had the money |
| 21:24.16 | JeffM | or at least do registered copyright |
| 21:26.38 | khonkhortisan | https://dev.twitter.com/discussions/1337 If you do not own a trademark...might be able to put you in touch...with the current owner |
| 21:26.56 | JeffM | yeah we'll try the social way first |
| 21:27.14 | JeffM | if that dosn't pan out then we can try other methods |
| 21:27.45 | JeffM | I'm sure it's a player |
| 21:41.32 | I_Died_Once | I suggested you guys signing up for twitter and facebook ages ago |
| 21:43.39 | JeffM | you are a visionary and ahead of your time! |
| 21:46.16 | allejo | lol |
| 21:46.49 | brad | JeffM: if you want the bzflag twitter account you should be able to email them and request it (stating it's inactivity and your role in the project), so long as you use a @bzflag.org email |
| 21:47.06 | brad | I did the same, they had no problem at all handing it over (only a year or so inactive) |
| 21:47.10 | alezakos | Wouldn't it be necessary to prove we are bzflag? Wouldn't it be necessary that TimRiker sends the email to twitter? |
| 21:47.14 | JeffM | brad, yeah I figure we can, but lets see if the community can find out who owns it first :) |
| 21:47.35 | JeffM | alezakos, I'd only go that rout after I owned bzflag, hence why we try to ask around first |
| 21:47.59 | JeffM | brad, it's good to know that's a last resort option |
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| 22:20.38 | brad | tried messaging the account and see who responds? :p |
| 22:32.28 | I_Died_Once | inactive since '09 |
| 22:32.36 | I_Died_Once | hope they're still around |
| 23:21.03 | JeffM | brad, nope, that's what I'm hoping kierra will do |
| 23:21.07 | JeffM | is delegating |
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| 23:38.50 | Chestal | hmm, handicap calc was broken when moved server-side |
| 23:39.01 | Chestal | not it simply does wins-losses instead os um of all relative scores |
| 23:39.12 | Chestal | and yes, the difference is important :-) |
| 23:39.27 | Chestal | good thing is tha tis _is_ server-side so it can be fixed |
| 23:40.53 | Chestal | hmm, I wonde rif it is easy to fix, not sure the server even knows the relative scores |
| 23:41.37 | Chestal | guess not, this sucks :-( |
| 23:41.51 | JeffM | the server should know all the scores |
| 23:42.33 | Chestal | what I mean with relative score is the number of wins/losses with respect to a certain opponent |
| 23:42.54 | JeffM | it shoudl be able to compute that |
| 23:43.05 | Chestal | only if it keeps track |
| 23:43.22 | JeffM | it tracks the wins/losses for every player |
| 23:43.24 | Chestal | not too hard to add I guess |
| 23:43.59 | JeffM | every player has 3 score variables, wins, losses, tks |
| 23:44.17 | Chestal | yes, but that#s not enough |
| 23:44.20 | JeffM | so you should be able to compare any player that is connected to any other player that is connected |
| 23:44.27 | JeffM | you need a history of it? |
| 23:44.27 | Chestal | no |
| 23:44.40 | Chestal | not a hisotry, just an account how many times a killed b |
| 23:44.45 | JeffM | ahhhh |
| 23:44.45 | JeffM | ok |
| 23:44.53 | JeffM | yeah that should be easy to track on the server |
| 23:44.58 | JeffM | a killed by map with each player |
| 23:45.07 | Chestal | the sum of all these for a player was used for handicap |
| 23:45.38 | Chestal | the problem is when players leave and you just use the absolut score, the handicap is no longer fair |
| 23:47.11 | Chestal | usually it's hard to notice, but I just did after server was busy for a while, then it was down to two players, then a third joined |
| 23:47.50 | JeffM | I can add the killed by map if you want, it's very easy |
| 23:47.57 | JeffM | probalby be useful to the API as well |
| 23:49.40 | Chestal | guess it only needs updates on kills and when a tank leaves the server |
| 23:49.48 | JeffM | yeah, it's very easy |
| 23:50.03 | Chestal | a map or simply an array (by player id)? I'm not familiar with the current data structures |
| 23:50.14 | JeffM | not an array, |
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| 23:50.22 | JeffM | std::map<int,int> in PlayerInfo |
| 23:50.36 | JeffM | the key is the killer, the value is the count |
| 23:50.53 | JeffM | then for any player you can query how may times they have been killed by some player ID |
| 23:51.07 | JeffM | then on a part you just walk the players clearing out the key for the ID of the player that left |
| 23:54.53 | Chestal | is currently confused by the GameKeeper class |
| 23:55.12 | Chestal | was is introduced to do stuff at some time? right now its emtpy? |
| 23:56.17 | Chestal | more precisely, it acts as a namespace only |
| 23:57.10 | Chestal | JeffM: I guess as you say the info could indeed be useful for plugins |
| 23:57.29 | Chestal | e.g. to taunt players ;-) |