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| 01:09.20 | Snake12534 | Hi all, blast or allejo there? |
| 01:09.31 | blast007 | no |
| 01:09.53 | Snake12534 | Blast |
| 01:10.46 | Snake12534 | My 9 years old brother wants to sign up for bzf. |
| 01:10.59 | blast007 | okay? |
| 01:11.20 | Snake12534 | Is it ok? |
| 01:11.58 | Snake12534 | I'll make sure he'll sign under COPPA |
| 01:12.04 | allejo | is not here |
| 01:12.10 | blast007 | then what would the problem be? |
| 01:13.05 | Snake12534 | I thought bzf allows only one player for PC. |
| 01:13.18 | blast007 | no... |
| 01:13.27 | blast007 | why would you think that? |
| 01:13.54 | Snake12534 | Well, my lil' brother is happy now. |
| 01:14.46 | Snake12534 | Cause you said You will ban me if there are two callsigns. |
| 01:15.31 | allejo | ... |
| 01:15.42 | blast007 | that was for other reasons.. |
| 01:15.47 | blast007 | if I even said that at all |
| 01:16.43 | khonkhortisan | Hi Snake12534 |
| 01:16.47 | Snake12534 | Oh.. for 6 months my lil' bro wanted a bzf account. |
| 01:17.24 | Snake12534 | Hi khonkhortisan. |
| 01:17.43 | khonkhortisan | I played with three computers on lan that showed up as the same public ip - it's not a problem most of the time |
| 01:18.19 | blast007 | it's mainly a problem for people who lie, which is probably why it was a problem for Snake12534 |
| 01:19.06 | Snake12534 | I'm on my Wii, so I am typing extremely slow. |
| 01:19.16 | blast007 | TMI |
| 01:19.23 | allejo | lol |
| 01:19.40 | khonkhortisan | imagines someone throwing letters at us |
| 01:20.28 | blast007 | khonkhortisan: he has to throw the bowling ball down the lane and hit the right letter |
| 01:20.40 | Snake12534 | Khonk, you always on IRC? {; |
| 01:20.59 | khonkhortisan | yep |
| 01:21.18 | Snake12534 | Cool |
| 01:22.05 | Snake12534 | I always tell Reptiles to use IRC :] |
| 01:22.58 | blast007 | that's.. great? |
| 01:23.01 | Snake12534 | So, I can get in contact with them quickly |
| 01:23.23 | Snake12534 | yeah |
| 01:26.28 | Snake12534 | Khonk, think ya can get on at 7? |
| 01:27.37 | allejo | blast007, omg you're always on IRC too! |
| 01:28.07 | Snake12534 | Me too... |
| 01:29.28 | khonkhortisan | half an hour from now? I'll probably still be here |
| 01:29.39 | blast007 | Snake12534: no you're not |
| 01:29.46 | JeffM | blast007, is actualy a highly intelegent network of tamagatchies |
| 01:29.48 | khonkhortisan | Yes, he's not |
| 01:30.08 | Snake12534 | Yep, Pdt |
| 01:30.42 | JeffM | Snake12534, for COPPA your parrents must grant permision, not you |
| 01:31.26 | Snake12534 | Yes Jeff, I know. :] |
| 01:33.34 | Snake12534 | Even though I was suppose to be out March 4th, my parents gave him permission. |
| 01:34.11 | JeffM | Snake12534, it's not him that needs permision, it's US |
| 01:34.30 | JeffM | and that can be granted to us by only your parrents |
| 01:34.57 | Snake12534 | I know, had this coversation before :] |
| 01:35.40 | Snake12534 | You want my guardian to email you? |
| 01:36.19 | blast007 | no |
| 01:36.34 | JeffM | nope, follow the instructions on the page when he registers as under 13 |
| 01:36.41 | Snake12534 | Mr.riker has recieved an email from my uncle last year. |
| 01:36.58 | JeffM | for you or your brother? |
| 01:37.10 | Snake12534 | I am no longer under 13. |
| 01:37.16 | JeffM | that isn't what I asked |
| 01:37.26 | Snake12534 | Me. |
| 01:37.33 | JeffM | then that has no bearing on your brother |
| 01:38.02 | Snake12534 | I understand. |
| 01:39.34 | khonkhortisan | You have 21 minutes until khonkhortisan is on. |
| 01:40.06 | Snake12534 | Yep me too. |
| 01:40.27 | Snake12534 | Then, we should official. |
| 01:40.35 | khonkhortisan | oh, _that_ on. |
| 01:42.13 | Snake12534 | I might recruit Joss to the team. |
| 01:43.01 | Snake12534 | Forestforce isn't training him. He agrees too. |
| 01:51.26 | Snake12534 | wxyzWXYZ has logged in. |
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| 01:52.49 | blast007 | Snake12534: FYI, this isn't twitter |
| 01:53.37 | blast007 | Snake12534: also, COPPA stuff doesn't go to Tim. It goes to the address specified in the message you get when signing up as under 13. |
| 01:53.56 | Snake12534 | IRC = chat = twitter |
| 01:55.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o blast007] by ChanServ |
| 01:57.06 | Snake12534 | Ok, 3 minuetes to go khonkhortisan :] |
| 01:58.52 | blast007 | why don't you just make your own channel? |
| 01:59.01 | blast007 | or perhaps take it to #bzflag-chat |
| 01:59.40 | Snake12534 | I do. ok khonkhortisan, I'm on bzf :] cu dere |
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| 04:01.59 | Snake12534 | Hiya all |
| 04:02.48 | Snake12534 | Anyone want to talk to my channel? |
| 04:03.49 | JeffM | ahh to be that young again |
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| 04:04.04 | Snake12534 | hi aplah1 |
| 04:04.10 | Snake12534 | Join #Snake12534 |
| 04:04.15 | Snake12534 | I have my own channel now |
| 04:04.21 | alpha1-2 | whoa! |
| 04:04.25 | JeffM | dude, please don't advertise it here |
| 04:04.31 | JeffM | not what this iplace is for |
| 04:04.39 | Snake12534 | sorry |
| 04:04.45 | Snake12534 | alpha1 |
| 04:04.47 | Snake12534 | where are you? |
| 04:04.51 | JeffM | I know you are SUPER excited |
| 04:05.01 | JeffM | and seriously us /msg to talk to people specificly |
| 04:05.42 | JeffM | and you really should put 2 #'s as per freenode rules |
| 04:06.03 | alpha1-2 | yes snake use private chat or bzflag-chat / guleague channels |
| 04:59.48 | Snake12534 | Hello. |
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| 07:58.56 | Constitution | ibot blast007 is also a highly intelegent network of tamagatchies |
| 07:58.56 | ibot | okay, Constitution |
| 08:01.25 | Constitution | er |
| 08:02.28 | Constitution | ibot no blast007 is a cheese stealer, or a highly intelligent network of tamagotchis |
| 08:02.28 | ibot | okay, Constitution |
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| 08:31.14 | allejo | ~blast007 |
| 08:31.14 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, blast007 is a cheese stealer, or a highly intelligent network of tamagotchis |
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| 10:11.39 | Constitution | ~kierra |
| 10:11.40 | ibot | kierra is, like, The mother who spawned the infamous barons.... and is all together sweet and cute aside of that. a mouse killer |
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| 14:23.40 | spldart | I'm smiling at "highly intelligent network of tamagotchis" ;) |
| 15:28.14 | khonkhortisan | ibot khonkhortisan is khonkhortisan |
| 15:28.14 | ibot | okay, khonkhortisan |
| 15:28.20 | khonkhortisan | ~khonkhortisan |
| 15:28.20 | ibot | [khonkhortisan] khonkhortisan |
| 15:28.26 | khonkhortisan | that's cool |
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| 15:49.22 | Snake12534 | Hiya all. |
| 15:49.31 | khonkhortisan | hello |
| 15:50.00 | Snake12534 | Wow, you're up early. |
| 15:50.14 | khonkhortisan | 8:50? |
| 15:50.37 | Snake12534 | Yes. AM |
| 15:50.48 | khonkhortisan | had to stay in bed at least until the sun rose (6:31) |
| 15:51.40 | Snake12534 | lol, I just woke up |
| 15:53.54 | khonkhortisan | You should leave your client open like a true irc addict |
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| 15:54.36 | Snake12534 | My wii will overheat. |
| 15:54.58 | Snake12534 | Want to official? |
| 15:55.00 | khonkhortisan | Can you clean it, or is it just too old? |
| 15:55.25 | Snake12534 | Clean a wii? |
| 15:55.46 | khonkhortisan | it must have an air intake somewhere |
| 15:56.46 | Snake12534 | Well I have people in the house wants to use the Wii. |
| 15:57.07 | khonkhortisan | What do you play bzflag on? Can't that use irc? |
| 15:57.46 | Snake12534 | Yeah, pc, but I don't want to |
| 15:57.51 | khonkhortisan | :) |
| 15:58.18 | Snake12534 | oh and we need to offi right now |
| 15:58.41 | Snake12534 | :] |
| 15:59.19 | khonkhortisan | sure we do |
| 15:59.22 | khonkhortisan | powers up the client |
| 16:00.01 | Snake12534 | ok imma be on, powering on |
| 16:01.07 | Snake12534 | tell me what server you're on. :] |
| 16:02.03 | khonkhortisan | I'm on the top hix (ffa) |
| 16:02.05 | Snake12534 | brb |
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| 16:05.31 | Guest533 | u there blast T here |
| 16:05.40 | blast007 | yes |
| 16:05.57 | Guest533 | mupdated my email on forums now it wont let me login |
| 16:06.05 | blast007 | there should be a tab with my name now. talk there. |
| 16:06.42 | Guest533 | hm no tab |
| 16:06.55 | blast007 | yeah, there is... should be to the right of #bzflag |
| 16:07.46 | mebigfatguy | yup |
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| 18:52.45 | Snake12534 | Hello civllians of Amierca. |
| 18:53.01 | alezakos | I don't live in Amierca |
| 18:53.30 | Snake12534 | Exactly |
| 18:53.33 | Snake12534 | No hello to you xD |
| 18:54.19 | JeffM | why do you hate the military and police of america? |
| 18:55.57 | mebigfatguy | well he said nothing about america, just amierca |
| 18:56.09 | JeffM | ahh they must not have a military |
| 18:56.09 | Snake12534 | Yep. |
| 18:56.13 | Snake12534 | Yeah. |
| 18:56.15 | JeffM | time to invade |
| 18:56.18 | Snake12534 | No. |
| 18:56.22 | Snake12534 | It's guarded by me. |
| 18:56.29 | Snake12534 | I am my own miliatary. |
| 18:56.32 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM] by ChanServ |
| 18:56.36 | JeffM | we'll see about that |
| 18:56.42 | mebigfatguy | heh |
| 18:56.44 | Snake12534 | We have no resources. |
| 18:56.45 | mebigfatguy | ducks |
| 18:56.46 | alezakos | So, Amierca has miliatary? |
| 18:56.56 | Snake12534 | Yes, and it's me. |
| 18:57.08 | Snake12534 | If you invade us, it will be only to kill us. |
| 18:57.10 | JeffM | you are below the age of conscription |
| 18:57.15 | Snake12534 | We have no resources, I repeat. |
| 18:57.17 | Snake12534 | No. |
| 18:57.25 | Snake12534 | I am no longer a COPPA user. |
| 18:57.39 | Snake12534 | Well I was never ^^ |
| 18:57.42 | JeffM | what does COPPA have to do with military service? |
| 18:57.56 | JeffM | that is a law in the United States of America |
| 18:57.59 | alezakos | They're Amiercan |
| 18:58.01 | Snake12534 | Because children are in the milatary |
| 18:58.11 | Snake12534 | Yes. |
| 18:58.12 | JeffM | that's against international law |
| 18:58.24 | Snake12534 | Under my law, children MUST be in the milatary |
| 18:58.37 | Snake12534 | Children under COPPA must be suicde bombers. |
| 18:58.45 | Snake12534 | Comicazzze. |
| 18:58.46 | JeffM | that's morraly wrong, sounds like a good enough reason to kick you from the channel |
| 18:58.51 | JeffM | ok, bit too far dude |
| 18:58.52 | Snake12534 | Lol? |
| 18:58.52 | brad | snake...you go a lil too far sometimes |
| 18:58.56 | JeffM | that's messed up |
| 18:58.57 | Snake12534 | Ok ok |
| 18:58.58 | JeffM | no LOL |
| 18:58.59 | alezakos | That's not illegal at all, right? Suicde bombing and milatary aren't illegal, suicide bombing and military are |
| 18:59.06 | Snake12534 | No alezakos |
| 18:59.15 | JeffM | we can not talk about that here, OK |
| 18:59.16 | Snake12534 | They are children, u forgot that one |
| 18:59.19 | Snake12534 | ok |
| 18:59.22 | Snake12534 | anyways good bye then |
| 18:59.29 | Snake12534 | BBL |
| 18:59.33 | JeffM | why? |
| 18:59.37 | Snake12534 | cuz i said so |
| 18:59.39 | Snake12534 | i have to invade USA |
| 18:59.42 | Snake12534 | cu's |
| 18:59.44 | alezakos | Did you just join to tell us about the kids in the milatratry? |
| 18:59.48 | Snake12534 | yes |
| 18:59.50 | Snake12534 | now bye for real! |
| 18:59.52 | *** kick/#bzflag [Snake12534!~JeffM@unaffiliated/jeffm2501] by JeffM (Snake12534) |
| 19:03.56 | Cobra_Fast | some people... |
| 19:05.16 | JeffM | he's just a kid looking for attention |
| 19:05.34 | alezakos | That reminds me of myself |
| 19:06.24 | JeffM | many people had phases like that, they grow out of it |
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| 19:08.00 | Cobra_Fast | true true |
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| 19:26.26 | khonkhortisan | GU offing all the time |
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| 19:28.59 | Snak12534 | Hello. |
| 19:29.10 | alezakos | For snake's sake! |
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| 19:30.02 | Snak12534_ | Why did it disconnect me? |
| 19:30.09 | JeffM | many reasons |
| 19:30.33 | JeffM | your conversation was becoming inapropriate for this channel |
| 19:31.07 | Snak12534_ | Jeff, are you a developer of bzf? |
| 19:31.17 | JeffM | yes |
| 19:31.24 | JeffM | and a project manager |
| 19:31.27 | Snak12534_ | I'm sorry about my country. |
| 19:31.35 | blast007 | Snak12534_: really, stop. |
| 19:31.52 | Snak12534_ | Do you know php? |
| 19:31.54 | JeffM | yeah this is a place for mature discussion, not childish babble |
| 19:31.59 | JeffM | I have used it, why? |
| 19:32.14 | Snak12534_ | Yes I understand. |
| 19:32.18 | khonkhortisan | hi Snak |
| 19:32.26 | JeffM | doubtful but we'll see |
| 19:32.36 | Snak12534_ | I need help w/ it. |
| 19:32.43 | khonkhortisan | #php ? |
| 19:32.47 | JeffM | there are many places on the internet for that |
| 19:32.53 | Snak12534_ | Hi khon |
| 19:32.56 | alezakos | Get a book |
| 19:32.56 | JeffM | and yeah I belive there is a php channel on freenode |
| 19:33.04 | khonkhortisan | bzflag uses c++, you'd get more luck asking about that here |
| 19:33.06 | blast007 | pretty sure they'd ban him from ##php |
| 19:33.16 | Snak12534_ | I prefer human teachers |
| 19:33.19 | khonkhortisan | I was wondering whether it was # or ## |
| 19:33.23 | JeffM | perhaps you should have taken the time to learn how to program before you offered to implement things on the GU site |
| 19:33.30 | blast007 | Snak12534_: no, you prefer that people do the work for you |
| 19:33.39 | JeffM | I prefer 100$ bills, but that don't change the world |
| 19:33.47 | JeffM | there are many ways for you to learn |
| 19:33.56 | JeffM | if you want a human teach then take a class on PHP |
| 19:34.03 | JeffM | many schools teach them |
| 19:34.10 | Snak12534_ | such as? |
| 19:34.24 | JeffM | my school teaches them |
| 19:34.32 | JeffM | California Lutheran University |
| 19:34.38 | JeffM | php and asp.net classes |
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| 19:35.10 | Snak12534_ | My school doesn't |
| 19:35.13 | JeffM | you have the powers of research in front of you, google is a powerful tool |
| 19:35.17 | JeffM | use your noodle |
| 19:35.43 | Snak12534_ | I am using a WII. |
| 19:36.01 | brad | how do you play bz on that? ;) |
| 19:36.08 | ashvala | has ^ |
| 19:36.10 | ashvala | hax* |
| 19:36.15 | JeffM | then perhaps you should get set up to do big boy development first |
| 19:36.27 | JeffM | your limitations are not our problem |
| 19:37.09 | Snak12534_ | bzf is on the wii |
| 19:37.18 | blast007 | nope |
| 19:37.31 | Snak12534_ | no |
| 19:38.02 | JeffM | are you done trying to be funny? |
| 19:38.38 | Snak12534_ | i said no as in bzf is not on wii |
| 19:38.59 | blast007 | you said it was on the wii |
| 19:39.32 | JeffM | I picked up php and mysql from an Addison-Wesly book, it was pretty good |
| 19:39.40 | Snak12534_ | yes the site is |
| 19:39.53 | JeffM | we don't care about what you view the site on |
| 19:40.05 | JeffM | it has NO bearing on this conversation |
| 19:40.40 | Snak12534_ | how do I obtain a book for Php for begginers? |
| 19:40.45 | blast007 | Snak12534_: in any case, you should probably worry about fixing your PC first |
| 19:40.52 | JeffM | you go to a book store or use amazon |
| 19:40.55 | blast007 | gonna be hard to do any dev work when you can't download files |
| 19:41.00 | JeffM | seriously we are not your mom |
| 19:41.01 | allejo | Or a library |
| 19:41.30 | JeffM | the info is out there, just put some actual effort into it |
| 19:41.32 | blast007 | how i mine for fish???? |
| 19:41.37 | Snak12534_ | why so angry? I am confused :/ |
| 19:41.45 | JeffM | who said we are angry? |
| 19:41.50 | blast007 | you're confused about how to find a book? |
| 19:42.18 | Snak12534_ | we* You |
| 19:42.21 | JeffM | everything has it's place, and this is not the place for the information you are looking for |
| 19:42.29 | khonkhortisan | its |
| 19:42.35 | khonkhortisan | and that doesn't sound angry to me |
| 19:42.48 | JeffM | you can man up and go ask your mom, or you can continue to ask questions that we won't answer |
| 19:43.20 | Snak12534_ | lol? |
| 19:43.28 | JeffM | no lol |
| 19:43.37 | Snak12534_ | ? |
| 19:43.44 | JeffM | this is not really a place for the lol |
| 19:43.56 | Snak12534_ | ok.... |
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| 19:44.32 | Snak12534_ | What's IRC for than if not chat. |
| 19:44.42 | JeffM | if the basics of reasearch are out of your grasp then you have many more things to do before you even attempt to program in php |
| 19:44.47 | JeffM | each channel is for a different subject |
| 19:44.49 | allejo | It's for serious conversation |
| 19:44.56 | JeffM | this is the developmnt channel on a network for open source projects |
| 19:45.02 | alezakos | For general nonsense, join #defocus |
| 19:45.04 | JeffM | it is not a general chat server |
| 19:45.13 | JeffM | or some other server that is a social network |
| 19:45.19 | allejo | Does anyone object to me hijacking this conversation for a more serious topic? |
| 19:45.26 | JeffM | PLEASE |
| 19:45.27 | blast007 | allejo: please! |
| 19:45.29 | ashvala | ^ by all means |
| 19:45.41 | JeffM | it's puting it back on track |
| 19:45.46 | khonkhortisan | incoming serious topic... |
| 19:45.47 | JeffM | not hijacking |
| 19:45.55 | JeffM | Reboot! |
| 19:46.14 | allejo | Can anyone help me out with the league plugin? The PHP portion. I can't figure ts' code for the life of me |
| 19:46.26 | JeffM | heh, you arn't the only one |
| 19:46.48 | allejo | http://github.com/allejo/leagueOverSeer |
| 19:46.52 | blast007 | allejo: Ah, I see the problem. You're holding it upside down. |
| 19:46.58 | Snak12534_ | What's the php channel? |
| 19:46.59 | allejo | lol |
| 19:47.04 | khonkhortisan | Snak12534_, ##php |
| 19:47.05 | blast007 | Snak12534_: they won't help you |
| 19:47.10 | khonkhortisan | and your client should have a channel list |
| 19:47.15 | allejo | JeffM, I'm glad I'm not the only one |
| 19:47.36 | allejo | I see to be able to enter the matches correctly but I can't update the teams' ELO |
| 19:47.50 | blast007 | why not ask ts? |
| 19:47.51 | alezakos | khonkhortisan: His client is the webchat, FYI |
| 19:47.58 | allejo | s/see/seem |
| 19:48.06 | JeffM | yeah I'd start with asking TS |
| 19:48.12 | khonkhortisan | oh |
| 19:48.35 | JeffM | I've always had a hard time following his stuff |
| 19:49.06 | Snak12534_ | why can't I join ##php? |
| 19:49.20 | blast007 | probably have to be registerd and identified |
| 19:49.42 | khonkhortisan | ##php doesn't give any response, #php is invite only |
| 19:49.51 | allejo | Alright, I'll ask him for a solution not based in the most recent trunk |
| 19:49.52 | JeffM | they get a lot of kids who don't want to bother learning |
| 19:49.57 | blast007 | #php isn't the one to join |
| 19:49.57 | khonkhortisan | oh. ##php needs identification |
| 19:50.10 | blast007 | "-!- Topic for #php: #php moved to ##php; please move over there; thanks!" |
| 19:50.17 | JeffM | Snak12534_, google for php tutorial, go from there |
| 19:50.25 | khonkhortisan | I didn't know I wasn't identified |
| 19:50.33 | Snak12534_ | How do I show id? |
| 19:50.46 | JeffM | www.freenode.net |
| 19:50.48 | JeffM | read |
| 19:50.51 | khonkhortisan | /msg NickServ identify password |
| 19:50.53 | JeffM | we are not here to help you learn IRC |
| 19:50.56 | khonkhortisan | and that link ^ |
| 19:51.01 | JeffM | khonkhortisan, don't encourage him |
| 19:51.05 | khonkhortisan | k |
| 19:51.06 | blast007 | he's not even registered |
| 19:51.23 | Snak12534_ | ... |
| 19:51.55 | JeffM | Snak12534_, you are in a mechanic's shop asking for someone to teach you how to cook, you are assuming that since we eat, we are willing and able to teach you how to cool |
| 19:51.58 | Snak12534_ | I'll stay here. |
| 19:52.00 | JeffM | cook even |
| 19:52.10 | allejo | Snake12534_, Google is your new best friend. Learn how to use him since he's probably the only one that's going to answer your questions |
| 19:52.18 | JeffM | allejo, google is a her |
| 19:52.31 | allejo | Oh oops |
| 19:52.37 | khonkhortisan | I didn't know that |
| 19:52.44 | JeffM | she knows EVERYTHING |
| 19:52.46 | JeffM | and is always right |
| 19:52.56 | allejo | lol |
| 19:53.01 | JeffM | and sometimes gets moody |
| 19:53.13 | JeffM | she has all your personal information but you trust her |
| 19:53.18 | JeffM | what other choice do you have? |
| 19:53.21 | allejo | That makes so much sense... |
| 19:53.26 | JeffM | and she'll help you go shopping |
| 19:53.44 | Snak12534_ | this is totally related to bzf projects |
| 19:53.55 | JeffM | Snak12534_, no it's related to GU |
| 19:53.56 | khonkhortisan | She gives an answer specifically for you, not just the answer she gives everyone |
| 19:54.21 | JeffM | Snak12534_, have you learned the basics of php programing? |
| 19:54.26 | JeffM | and made sites before? |
| 19:54.52 | Snak12534_ | Sort of. Yes |
| 19:55.05 | JeffM | I'll take that as a no |
| 19:55.19 | Snak12534_ | Answer to the questions |
| 19:55.30 | JeffM | what website are you editing? |
| 19:55.40 | *** join/#bzflag brlcad (~sean@66-118-151-70.static.sagonet.net) |
| 19:55.48 | Snak12534_ | Sorta : php |
| 19:55.49 | blast007 | he meant PHP sites, by the way. Not some WYSIWYG generated site. |
| 19:56.00 | JeffM | what website are you editing? |
| 19:56.13 | Snak12534_ | RO |
| 19:56.32 | JeffM | that is not a site that I recognise that we maintain |
| 19:56.48 | alezakos | That's a blog on blogspot, right? |
| 19:56.57 | Snak12534_ | Reptiles Org. |
| 19:57.06 | JeffM | your personal sites are not part of the project |
| 19:57.12 | JeffM | and not directly related to the bzflag codebase |
| 19:57.20 | JeffM | so no, it is not relevant here |
| 19:57.23 | Snak12534_ | Yes. [not a php site] |
| 19:57.36 | JeffM | so no, you do not know how to make php sites |
| 19:57.40 | Snak12534_ | ok then |
| 19:57.45 | JeffM | this means you are still in the phase of learning php |
| 19:57.49 | JeffM | finish that first |
| 19:57.53 | Snak12534_ | no, not atm |
| 19:57.58 | JeffM | use goodle, there is a LOT of info out there |
| 19:58.04 | JeffM | you can learn all you need by reading |
| 19:58.09 | JeffM | and you'll be better off for it |
| 19:58.24 | Snak12534_ | what do I google? |
| 19:58.31 | JeffM | think about it |
| 19:59.27 | JeffM | if you are unable to figure out what to google then perhaps you do not have the mindset for website development |
| 19:59.48 | JeffM | all programing is about problem solving, not asking, break your problem down into small chunks |
| 20:00.15 | blast007 | the problem is that he expects to jump right to making code for the GU league |
| 20:00.15 | Snak12534_ | I know, I finish php at www.codeacademy.com |
| 20:00.39 | JeffM | then you should know where to get addiional resrouces |
| 20:00.47 | Snak12534_ | no I don't blast |
| 20:01.00 | blast007 | yeah you did. |
| 20:01.19 | blast007 | that's what you were asking for help with on my channel |
| 20:01.23 | Snak12534_ | A few years |
| 20:04.05 | JeffM | I have to go have lunch, I'll assume that blast007 can handle it from here if need be |
| 20:04.35 | Snak12534_ | eat well |
| 20:05.01 | JeffM | go read, go learn |
| 20:05.18 | Snak12534_ | on wii |
| 20:05.31 | alezakos | Buy a book! |
| 20:05.58 | Snak12534_ | fiancial problems |
| 20:06.06 | allejo | Library |
| 20:06.09 | *** join/#bzflag brlcad (~sean@66-118-151-70.static.sagonet.net) |
| 20:06.31 | Snak12534_ | 4 miles from here |
| 20:06.45 | alezakos | Google |
| 20:06.50 | allejo | ebook |
| 20:06.59 | khonkhortisan | telepathy |
| 20:07.03 | Snak12534_ | on wii |
| 20:07.17 | allejo | Stop making excuses |
| 20:07.26 | alezakos | Since you can't google on Wii, how can you PHP on Wii? |
| 20:07.35 | khonkhortisan | ^ |
| 20:07.46 | Snak12534_ | PC |
| 20:07.57 | khonkhortisan | then get off the wii |
| 20:08.02 | allejo | Then get on you PC |
| 20:08.21 | Snak12534_ | PC in use |
| 20:08.35 | allejo | Then go fly a kite |
| 20:08.41 | ashvala | or read a book... |
| 20:08.44 | khonkhortisan | yeah, wait |
| 20:08.55 | Snak12534_ | no book, no kite |
| 20:09.43 | allejo | Look snake. We are here voluntarily to help with bz related stuff. Except blast, he's forced to be here. We will not feed you information because frankly we don't care about you if you're not going to put any effort on your part. |
| 20:09.59 | allejo | You come here asking for help and you make up excuses for everything we tell you |
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| 20:10.37 | Snak12534_ | Ok, do me one more favor. |
| 20:10.45 | allejo | No. |
| 20:10.54 | allejo | We are not here to do you favors. |
| 20:11.01 | Snak12534_ | Send me a link for php. |
| 20:11.06 | ashvala | Google. |
| 20:11.14 | Snak12534_ | so I can read it. |
| 20:11.22 | allejo | http://PHP.net |
| 20:11.34 | khonkhortisan | Won't you have google access when you have link-reading access? |
| 20:11.49 | Snak12534_ | I'm getting searches that aren't relevant |
| 20:11.58 | Snak12534_ | ok |
| 20:12.42 | allejo | If you do not know how google properly, you are not meant to develop. At least not now... |
| 20:13.49 | Snak12534_ | k |
| 20:14.15 | blast007 | wtf. how can you screw up googling for the PHP homepage? |
| 20:14.52 | allejo | PeeHPee? |
| 20:15.39 | Snak12534_ | I'm fixing my PC atm. |
| 20:15.53 | blast007 | no, you're on your wii at the moment |
| 20:16.30 | blast007 | Snak12534_: what did you search for when trying to find the PHP site? |
| 20:16.46 | Snak12534_ | 2 at once |
| 20:17.05 | Snak12534_ | I googled php |
| 20:17.25 | blast007 | then the first result should have been for the PHP.net site |
| 20:18.13 | Snak12534_ | idk what to do there |
| 20:18.19 | blast007 | READ |
| 20:18.23 | blast007 | LEARN |
| 20:18.36 | khonkhortisan | documentation | faq | getting help |
| 20:18.37 | allejo | CLICK |
| 20:18.44 | Snak12534_ | ok |
| 20:22.54 | Snak12534_ | PHP :: PHP hypertext pretestor |
| 20:23.17 | *** kick/#bzflag [Snak12534_!~blast007@bzflag/developer/Blast] by blast007 (We don't care) |
| 20:24.32 | *** join/#bzflag Snak12534 (4cfe272f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.254.39.47) |
| 20:28.38 | Snak12534 | Done reading. |
| 20:31.24 | alezakos | Snak12534: Did you know: Rejoining after being kicked many times might result in your being banned. |
| 20:31.51 | khonkhortisan | People don't usually get kicked twice |
| 20:32.15 | Snak12534 | No, got disconnected. |
| 20:32.29 | alezakos | blast07 has kicked Snak12534_ from #bzflag (We don't care) |
| 20:33.00 | Snak12534 | ? |
| 20:33.09 | khonkhortisan | You were kicked both times |
| 20:33.25 | khonkhortisan | * JeffM has kicked Snake12534 from #bzflag (Snake12534) |
| 20:33.36 | khonkhortisan | Your client should tell you this |
| 20:33.45 | *** join/#bzflag Snak12534_ (4cfe272f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.254.39.47) |
| 20:33.55 | alezakos | He probably got disconnected and then kicked |
| 20:34.13 | Snak12534_ | again?? |
| 20:34.20 | alezakos | Get a beta connection |
| 20:34.27 | khonkhortisan | not what I saw, both of them looked like real kicks. |
| 20:34.35 | khonkhortisan | This time it looks like a double-join |
| 20:35.12 | blast007 | Snak12534_: no, this time you just disconnected |
| 20:35.13 | allejo | hopes for a +b on snake |
| 20:35.19 | Snak12534_ | ah I see, I'm clicking b |
| 20:35.37 | blast007 | you've been kicked twice today |
| 20:36.48 | khonkhortisan | The first one hasn't timed out yet |
| 20:37.07 | Snak12534_ | i dint know that |
| 20:37.16 | khonkhortisan | there |
| 20:45.30 | Snak12534_ | Done reading. |
| 20:45.53 | blast007 | you read the entire PHP documentation? |
| 20:47.27 | Snak12534_ | The faqs and wiki |
| 20:47.44 | Snak12534_ | the downloads, i cant.. |
| 20:48.02 | allejo | i seriously doubt you could read the entire faq and wiki in a matter of minutes |
| 20:48.35 | allejo | did you click on all the links or did you just read the table of contents -_- |
| 20:48.51 | Snak12534_ | 30mins+ |
| 20:49.10 | Snak12534_ | Looked at some links |
| 20:56.23 | blast007 | Snak12534_: Do you have any ideas for basic projects to work on? |
| 20:57.00 | Snak12534_ | none |
| 20:57.18 | blast007 | What is something you'd like to keep track of or help automate? |
| 20:57.49 | alezakos | Snak12534_: What about a, hm, reptiles poll system? |
| 20:58.07 | blast007 | alezakos: let him think about it |
| 20:58.41 | Snak12534_ | I already thought of that |
| 20:58.58 | blast007 | sure you did, which is why you just said you have no ideas. |
| 20:59.22 | Snak12534_ | A reptiles poll system is genius |
| 20:59.29 | blast007 | Snak12534_: think up one website project idea |
| 20:59.41 | Snak12534_ | No, before I had |
| 20:59.49 | blast007 | you said you had no ideas |
| 20:59.57 | Snak12534_ | A poll system |
| 21:00.10 | blast007 | then someone suggests a poll system, and you say "yeah, I already had that idea" |
| 21:00.28 | Snak12534_ | now I don't, then alez reminded me |
| 21:00.32 | alezakos | At a point, he had some ideas. Then they all disappeared, so he had now ideas |
| 21:00.44 | blast007 | Snak12534_: so now, think of *another* idea |
| 21:01.10 | Snak12534_ | uumm.. |
| 21:01.43 | Snak12534_ | a chating box |
| 21:01.48 | khonkhortisan | upload button. I failed at copying one in php |
| 21:01.57 | Snak12534_ | no nvm |
| 21:02.31 | Snak12534_ | a medals feature |
| 21:03.08 | blast007 | *facepalm* |
| 21:03.49 | allejo | *facepalm* |
| 21:03.53 | allejo | back to square one? |
| 21:04.05 | khonkhortisan | *facepalm to fit in* |
| 21:04.06 | blast007 | Snak12534_: when I said basic, I meant basic. |
| 21:04.11 | Snak12534_ | that isnt helpful |
| 21:04.17 | ashvala | Snake, start simpleā¦ Create a calculator. |
| 21:04.19 | blast007 | as in, something that doesn't need a database |
| 21:04.44 | ashvala | There, that's a simple website idea, go do it. |
| 21:04.57 | Snak12534_ | uhh a word |
| 21:05.25 | Snak12534_ | a word that is a link |
| 21:05.52 | blast007 | that's HTML, not PHP |
| 21:06.18 | blast007 | <a href="http://php.net">PHP</a> |
| 21:06.26 | Snak12534_ | i have a headache |
| 21:06.40 | blast007 | yeah, must be tough using your brain cells |
| 21:06.49 | Snak12534_ | ok, so a calculator |
| 21:07.36 | blast007 | do you even have a web server with PHP yet? |
| 21:07.51 | khonkhortisan | I do - I think |
| 21:07.59 | Snak12534_ | no |
| 21:08.00 | blast007 | I am asking Snak12534_ |
| 21:08.18 | blast007 | Snak12534_: well you need to do that first |
| 21:08.19 | khonkhortisan | should've italicized _I_ do... |
| 21:08.34 | blast007 | khonkhortisan: but why does that matter? |
| 21:08.44 | khonkhortisan | you're right, it doesn't. |
| 21:09.09 | Snak12534_ | what site? |
| 21:09.23 | khonkhortisan | mine? |
| 21:10.30 | Snak12534_ | an ex. |
| 21:10.52 | *** join/#bzflag Notify (~notify@66-118-151-70.static.sagonet.net) |
| 21:10.56 | khonkhortisan | You could start with self-hosting to lan, there's no publishing that way |
| 21:11.07 | blast007 | he can't download files |
| 21:11.08 | allejo | ah Notify! Please bring a better conversation to this channel! |
| 21:11.10 | khonkhortisan | oh |
| 21:11.20 | blast007 | he had trouble downloading a download manager to help with downloading larger files :P |
| 21:11.39 | Snak12534_ | yep |
| 21:11.40 | blast007 | he can't download google chrome either |
| 21:11.48 | Snak12534_ | yep |
| 21:12.16 | blast007 | so I'm convinced he has a few dozen viruses on his computer that are sending off all his information to Russia and that his system is launching DoS attacks and sending out spam |
| 21:12.34 | Snak12534_ | blast wat site do u suggest |
| 21:13.02 | blast007 | site? |
| 21:13.08 | blast007 | what are you talking about? |
| 21:13.45 | Snak12534_ | ok i want to make calc. |
| 21:14.01 | khonkhortisan | website hosting with actual text access to .html/.php files |
| 21:15.16 | Snak12534_ | khonk we should ofii |
| 21:15.26 | allejo | ... |
| 21:15.46 | khonkhortisan | I have to open a pull request in something unrelated first |
| 21:15.51 | khonkhortisan | just fixed something |
| 21:16.13 | allejo | blast007, I believe you are killing ibot with having to log this nonsense, please help a bot out |
| 21:16.18 | Snak12534_ | how do i start? |
| 21:16.33 | blast007 | Snak12534_: download XAMPP |
| 21:17.17 | Snak12534_ | i cant |
| 21:17.24 | khonkhortisan | How about lamp/wamp? |
| 21:17.36 | khonkhortisan | mamp? amp? |
| 21:17.40 | blast007 | khonkhortisan: no... |
| 21:17.48 | blast007 | Snak12534_: Fix your computer then. |
| 21:17.52 | blast007 | Snak12534_: Bai! |
| 21:17.56 | *** kick/#bzflag [Snak12534_!~blast007@bzflag/developer/Blast] by blast007 (Snak12534_) |
| 21:17.58 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*4cfe272f@*.76.254.39.47] by blast007 |
| 21:18.15 | allejo | ~blast007++ |
| 21:18.24 | khonkhortisan | This channel is much nicer. Somewhere else, I got a ban without a kick first. |
| 21:21.08 | kierra | omg, FF isnt training Joss....ROFL! like Joss needs training |
| 21:21.37 | allejo | o.O |
| 21:21.49 | alezakos | khonkhortisan: And it was 2 kicks, not only one! |
| 21:23.01 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b *!*4cfe272f@*.76.254.39.47] by blast007 |
| 21:23.16 | allejo | blast007 D: |
| 21:23.19 | allejo | noooo |
| 21:23.34 | blast007 | was a /knockout, not a /kickban |
| 21:24.18 | allejo | heh |
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| 21:41.01 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v JeffM] by ChanServ |
| 21:44.39 | kierra | if blast didnt intimidate me, I'd ask in #bzflag if he would teach me php |
| 21:44.55 | kierra | ooops i'm here.....that was a snake thing to do :D |
| 21:45.02 | blast007 | lol |
| 21:45.10 | kierra | you know i <3 you, blast007 |
| 21:45.16 | blast007 | ;) |
| 21:45.50 | JeffM | he'd tell you what to read and you'd read it, that's where you arn't snake like :) |
| 21:46.19 | blast007 | JeffM: don't worry. snake read the php.net site. |
| 21:46.46 | JeffM | heh |
| 21:46.49 | blast007 | only took him 30 minutes too. he must super human! |
| 21:46.55 | blast007 | must be* |
| 21:47.23 | JeffM | well that's how long it took me |
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| 22:46.43 | Snake12534_ | Hi james |
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| 23:17.16 | Snake12534_ | Blast, I need your help. |
| 23:17.43 | blast007 | Well, you know me. Always here to help with google searches. |
| 23:17.57 | blast007 | So what can I type into the search box for you? |
| 23:18.53 | JeffM | What is the meaning of life? |
| 23:19.10 | khonkhortisan | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+the+meaning+of+life%3F |
| 23:19.31 | Snake12534_ | How do I make a PHP Test site? |
| 23:19.37 | JeffM | not the place man |
| 23:19.52 | JeffM | you are neariing explusion fro this channel |
| 23:20.02 | JeffM | do you understand? |
| 23:20.18 | Snake12534_ | How do I PM blast than here on IRC |
| 23:20.25 | JeffM | /msg |
| 23:20.30 | blast007 | Snake12534_: I can answer that in one word: XAMPP |
| 23:20.53 | JeffM | or get a big boy IRC client instead of a webpage |
| 23:21.08 | Snake12534_ | Another quicker way, like a private channel. |
| 23:21.08 | blast007 | he can't download files |
| 23:21.11 | blast007 | :P |
| 23:21.32 | blast007 | a 7MB download failed for him.. |
| 23:21.48 | JeffM | then he should not bother with the question untill he's ready to do development |
| 23:24.01 | Snake12534_ | cant u teach me the steps? PM Blast: |
| 23:24.32 | JeffM | no |
| 23:25.06 | JeffM | google |
| 23:25.15 | JeffM | use a real computer |
| 23:25.58 | Snake12534_ | PM Blast*** |
| 23:26.13 | JeffM | it's not a PM |
| 23:26.30 | JeffM | if he dosn't want to help you he dosn't have to |
| 23:26.40 | JeffM | you are starting to get anoying |
| 23:26.42 | Snake12534_ | how i make a private channel |
| 23:26.48 | JeffM | you don't |
| 23:27.26 | JeffM | why do you have such a hard time listening? |
| 23:30.31 | allejo | JeffM, because he doesn't know how to read |
| 23:30.45 | JeffM | doubtful |
| 23:48.04 | tburn | has there been any thought of destructible map elements? |
| 23:48.41 | JeffM | it's been discussed |
| 23:48.47 | Snake12534_ | yes |
| 23:49.10 | JeffM | it'd be possible with signifigiant changes to to the game and the protocoll |
| 23:49.28 | JeffM | mostly with how the shots are computed |
| 23:49.30 | tburn | are any of those changes pending anyway :-D |
| 23:49.38 | JeffM | they are all long term goals |
| 23:49.44 | JeffM | and I mean SIGNIFIGANT changes |
| 23:49.59 | tburn | sure well I'm looking at the road map - u mean.. not even 5.0 long term? |
| 23:50.00 | JeffM | like redoing the entire simulation engine |
| 23:50.06 | tburn | ah well thats 3.2 |
| 23:50.07 | JeffM | and moving shots to the serer |
| 23:50.14 | JeffM | yeah it'd be after 5.0 |
| 23:50.15 | tburn | and 3.4 right? |
| 23:50.27 | JeffM | we'd have to have a full blown server state and redone physics |
| 23:50.29 | tburn | could make for some new game modes |
| 23:51.03 | tburn | cool. I was pretty psyched to find the "shots keep vertical velocity" setting. but this could make that setting even more key |
| 23:51.15 | JeffM | that's been there for a while |
| 23:51.54 | tburn | I just had never seen it in the wild, wasn't until I looked at a config file and was like waaaaait a minute... |
| 23:52.45 | JeffM | changing the map at run time would need to have a way to sync it across all players, and keep the shots synced across all players |
| 23:52.56 | JeffM | right now bzflag assumes everyone is a LAN player |
| 23:52.57 | tburn | yes |
| 23:53.05 | tburn | udp multicast? |
| 23:53.09 | JeffM | no |
| 23:53.12 | JeffM | just no concept of lag |
| 23:53.15 | tburn | ah yes |
| 23:53.26 | JeffM | and total trust of the client |
| 23:53.38 | khonkhortisan | other than the measurement |
| 23:53.45 | tburn | bzflag has been around for a while.. I'm just wondering how lag now differs from lag then (typical case) |
| 23:53.59 | JeffM | there was no lag "then" |
| 23:54.04 | tburn | ah on the LAN |
| 23:54.05 | blast007 | BZFlag was designed for LAN play where the lag was VERY tiny |
| 23:54.07 | JeffM | it was not intended to be on the internet |
| 23:54.52 | JeffM | the interenet iddn't really exist like it does now |
| 23:54.59 | tburn | yes jeff I am old :) |
| 23:55.06 | JeffM | so I am |
| 23:55.09 | JeffM | am I |
| 23:55.17 | tburn | I have used NCSA Mosaic and been all like, well, THIS is useless... |
| 23:56.01 | JeffM | it used to be the only thing :) |
| 23:56.18 | JeffM | so it was super useful |
| 23:56.24 | tburn | back in my day multiplayer meant you had null modem connections and paperclips came into play far too frequently... :-D |
| 23:56.54 | *** join/#bzflag swigg_ (~swigg@68-119-228-196.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com) |
| 23:58.59 | JeffM | the networking code is from that time and has not really changed much |
| 23:59.40 | tburn | do any of the bzflag devs have day jobs in gaming dev? |