IRC log for #bzflag on 20130429

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03:10.14drizzo4shizzodelusional in the house?
03:10.36delusional_i'm in a house
03:23.24JeffMwhere do the shared resources go after you install on linux?
03:28.34drizzo4shizzoone sec jeff
03:29.06drizzo4shizzostuff frequently goes in /usr/share...
03:29.24drizzo4shizzolooks like /usr/share/games/bzflag
03:29.37drizzo4shizzothis is 'buntu 12.04
03:29.47JeffMcool, thanks
03:29.52drizzo4shizzosure. got one for u
03:30.08drizzo4shizzois the server always player id 253?
03:30.15JeffMI think so
03:30.25JeffM250 + are all special IIRC
03:30.50drizzo4shizzothanks
03:33.02drizzo4shizzoI see that you just commented out the body of the local sound playback preserving the function's existence.
03:33.18drizzo4shizzoI will take that as a sign this feature will come back
03:33.20JeffMit was the fastest way to remove it
03:33.33JeffMnot in a compatable release
03:33.36drizzo4shizzoI was confused when my code still compiled :)
03:33.37JeffMbut sure at some point
03:33.44drizzo4shizzoright right
03:34.02JeffMremoving things from the API is bad, we just make things not function when called
03:34.19drizzo4shizzo#ifdef THISISBROKEN
03:34.57JeffMthat would make bzfs not compile
03:35.00JeffMthat would be stupid
03:35.15drizzo4shizzoerm, I guess it depends how you do it
03:35.33drizzo4shizzoyou can ifdef the body just like you commented it, obv.
03:36.07drizzo4shizzoit groups the code in one disabled block, so it's a little easier to read / maintain IMHO
03:36.31JeffMyou only do that if there are config sections that can possibly turn it on
03:36.37JeffMreally I should have just removed it
03:36.46JeffMand left the code a stub
03:36.49drizzo4shizzofair enough I don't know ur conventions
03:37.49JeffMdead code is pointless
03:38.13drizzo4shizzoI agree it should only live on in your version control
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12:33.38joevanobrlcad: Happy Birthday
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14:18.11brlcadjoevano: heh, thank you
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15:36.07alezakosWow, building bzflag stills to be failing, as if -std=c++0x wasn't there
15:36.19blast007alezakos: did you run ./autogen.sh again?
15:36.39alezakosI think I did
15:36.46alezakosruns it again now
15:36.54blast007do it again to be sure, and then ./configure and make
15:39.29alezakosStill failing...
15:40.44alezakosIn fact, I think that make automatically runs autoreconf and ./configure if there are changes on a makefile or on configure.ac
15:44.29blast007do you have an error message?
15:46.52alezakoshttp://pastebin.com/gzPGNuD8
15:50.35alezakosThis change seems to be solving it:
15:50.37alezakos-CONF_CXXFLAGS="-std=c++0x $CONF_CXXFLAGS $OPTIMIZE"
15:50.37alezakos+CONF_CXXFLAGS="$CONF_CXXFLAGS $OPTIMIZE -std=c++0x"
15:56.39blast007hrm
15:57.03blast007so I wonder if -std is being replace by other stuff
15:58.26Chestal-ansi probably
15:58.26blast007what operating system are you building on?
15:58.42alezakosUbuntu 12.10
15:59.16blast007Chestal: ah, and I do see -ansi being set in like 677 of configure.ac, for linux
16:00.09blast007hmm, though I wonder if I just made the wrong fix
16:00.39ChestalI'm not sure how exactly -ansi and std=... play together, disabling gcc extensions or something
16:00.59blast007or not enough of a fix, perhaps.  I have an extra -std=c++0x in my working configure.ac file.
16:02.04alezakos-ansi was added in CONF_CXXFLAGS as of r22733 yesterday. You just added -std=c++0x without removing the -ansi.
16:02.29blast007I should just revert all of r22733 and make him fix it.
16:02.48ChestalI think, -ansi is not needed when -std=... is used
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16:06.03alezakos-ansi is just an alias for -std=c++98, so it overrides -std=c++0x
16:06.20blast007ah
16:06.26blast007so yeah, needs to go away then
16:08.15Notify03BZFlag:blast007 * 22738 trunk/bzflag/configure.ac: Remove -ansi that was introduced with r22733
16:14.33blast007sucessful build here
16:15.04blast007I had some third instance of -std=c++0x stuck in my build copy, so the change I made yesterday "seemed" to fix it. ;)
16:16.42BulletCatcherAccording to the g++ man page, -ansi is a synonym for -std=c++98.
16:16.43BulletCatcherWe definitely don't want to use it any more.
16:18.33alezakosIt builds successfully here as well
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17:27.34Notify03BZFlag:bullet_catcher * 22739 (trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): Remove superfluous and redundant parentheses.
17:27.39BulletCatcherXcode complains about the darndest things.
17:29.05khonkhortisan{(print("hello"))}
17:34.27JeffMshakes his hands at the sky for DTRemenak using complex Regexes in code!
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17:37.40DTRemenakJeffM: who me?  naw... :)
17:37.50JeffMnew Regex(@"([\w_]+[\?\#]?)\s*(?:\[\s*(?:(Num|Bool)\s*\:\s*([\w_]+)[\s\,]*)+\])?\:", RegexOptions.IgnoreCase);
17:38.07DTRemenakwoot, that's a good one.
17:41.48khonkhortisanloong
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21:18.49khonkhortisanWhen I Find Server, that gets the server list. If I were to write a script to send fake keypresses to bzflag, and sent enter escape repeatedly, it would make a series of connections. Is this a problem?
21:20.06khonkhortisanActually, I can just hold down enter.
21:25.40JeffMthere are WAY easier ways to do that kind of DDOS
21:25.47JeffMit's just a web page
21:25.59JeffMyou can use any kind of script/tool to make those connections
21:26.31JeffMusing the bzflag client is probably one of the harder ways
21:29.38khonkhortisanI found etherape and it makes a big red circle so it looks like it's really doing a lot
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