IRC log for #bzflag on 20130730

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12:14.34kierrayay Chestal, you did it!!!!!
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12:30.56Chestalkierra: I did nothing, I'm innocent!
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14:21.44kierrayou know what you did.....<3
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17:44.01kierraChestal: forwarded you a forum pm
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19:19.59Chestalif someone is bored and wants to help test a new HTF plugin, /msg me
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21:37.07Constitutionwhat did he do?
21:42.24allejoConstitution, he did nothing
21:42.25allejo<Chestal> kierra: I did nothing, I'm innocent!
21:42.27allejo:P
21:44.00Constitutionah
21:44.04Constitution~chestal++
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22:08.09randomparticlei'm thinking of allowing a shell escape in the bzflag console
22:08.16randomparticlebut i'm wondering what coding that would involve
22:08.33randomparticlewhat does, e.g., bash expect in terms of terminal capabilities?
22:09.07blast007randomparticle: what?
22:09.12blast007shell escape?
22:09.18randomparticleyeah
22:09.39blast007what "bzflag console" are you referring to?
22:09.46randomparticlewhere the messages appear
22:09.53blast007in the graphical client?
22:09.56randomparticleyes
22:10.09blast007and you want a terminal emulator there?
22:10.30randomparticleit's an idea i've been playing with
22:10.47randomparticleto blend the bz console command environment with a classical unix shell environment
22:10.52blast007why would you need a linux terminal in your game client?
22:11.16randomparticleto extend its capabilities
22:11.30blast007here's how you can extend it.  minimize the game client and type in your terminal.
22:11.59randomparticlei'd rather not write page after page describing what i have in mind. you either have some help to offer or you don't
22:12.43blast007I don't understand the use case
22:12.47randomparticleperson A asks how do I do X? person B says why would you want to do X? NOT VERY HELPFUL and IS IRRITATING
22:13.44blast007what exactly is the goal?
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22:15.28Constitutioncan you do a pipebomb to crash the client with it?
22:15.50blast007fork bomb you mean?
22:16.03Constitutioner
22:16.07Constitutionyeah *headdesk*
22:16.24Constitutionsometimes work and hobbies get muddled a bit
22:16.26blast007*throws pipebomb*  *client blows up*
22:16.53allejolol
22:17.01blast007randomparticle: just seems like a LOT of work for little benefit
22:17.35randomparticleyou don't know what the benefits are as I haven't explained them
22:18.10randomparticlewhen i have an idea what needs doing and how much work that involves i can decide for myself whether or not it's worth it
22:18.25allejochmod +x blast007; ./blast007; echo  "blast007 has been executed"
22:18.28allejoba dum tss
22:18.56blast007randomparticle: why not just use something like this?  http://sourceforge.net/projects/tilda/
22:19.14blast007dunno if it'd work when in-game though
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22:20.06randomparticlethe terminal needs to be integrated with the game. i intend to, e.g., pipe the output of bzflag commands through unix commands available from the shell
22:20.07blast007and Tilda is already packed for Ubuntu, at least, and probably other linux distros
22:23.25randomparticlei will take a look at the tilda source to see how they do it
22:38.14ConstitutionI was surprised by how capable the bz console is as far as the ASCII escape codes and such
22:41.34Constitutionprobably one of those features like the star map which is far more capable/realistic than we will ever need :P
23:00.57kierraConstitution: ping
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23:19.40Constitutionkierra: pong
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