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| 00:39.25 | blast007 | crumb: because you could turn textures on in the middle of the game, but we only download textures when joining :) |
| 00:39.57 | blast007 | I think you can turn the texture downloads off in the Cache Settings menu |
| 00:40.11 | crumb | oh cool :) |
| 00:41.16 | blast007 | allejo: for the shot thing, it's because your local client ignores (or never receives) shot messages for your own bullets. It handles local shots locally. |
| 00:57.24 | allejo | ohhh, so i take it that's one of the things that will be changed if shots ever do go server side? |
| 01:01.07 | blast007 | kinda |
| 01:02.09 | blast007 | changing the shot type is iffy.. ideally you'd tell the client "okay, you should be shooting this type" so that the local simulation can immediately use that type |
| 01:05.37 | allejo | currently, if the client starts to receive shot messages would it work without a protobreak? |
| 01:06.35 | blast007 | that's not how you'd do it anyway |
| 01:12.02 | allejo | aw :( |
| 01:14.18 | blast007 | 2.99.x had the shot effect part split out |
| 01:14.30 | blast007 | so you could have a custom flag that would shoot laser |
| 01:15.15 | blast007 | and the local client knew that the flag had that effect and could thus locally show that right away without waiting 300ms for a "yeah, fire a laser" message |
| 01:16.16 | allejo | ohhh i see, the lag would effect local shots |
| 01:16.27 | allejo | did 2.99.x have shots server side? |
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| 01:22.44 | blast007 | yes |
| 01:23.12 | blast007 | but I don't think they worked all that well.. iirc, the way they were designed gave laggers the advantage |
| 01:24.09 | blast007 | well, let me rephrase that "yes". 2.99.x had lag compensation. I don't know if shots were truly server-side for death checks. |
| 01:25.39 | blast007 | the lag compensation made it so that someone with 500ms of lag would appear to everyone else as having bullets spawn 500ms in front of them |
| 01:26.11 | blast007 | so, for instance, a lagger jumping up at you could possibly spawn a bullet inside your tank :P |
| 01:28.01 | allejo | i take it it wasn't effective? lol |
| 01:36.53 | blast007 | yeah... not really |
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| 04:17.12 | TD-Linux | bzflag still supports turning textures off? |
| 04:18.19 | TD-Linux | that's cute |
| 04:27.45 | crumb | it comes in handy for urban jungle |
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| 18:54.24 | crumb | <3 pillbox.. too bad everyone leaves within the first few minutes of me joining :/ |
| 18:54.44 | crumb | because i pwn everyone |
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| 20:10.31 | brad | !lart crumb |
| 20:10.40 | brad | ~lart crumb |
| 20:10.40 | infobot | gives crumb a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
| 20:11.04 | crumb | wat |
| 20:11.12 | brad | no idea |
| 20:11.15 | brad | who be you crumb? |
| 20:11.24 | crumb | titmouse :) |
| 20:11.30 | brad | ahh cool |
| 20:12.57 | crumb | i was in the old timey league or something, but no one ever told me how to join their games |
| 20:13.28 | brad | join GU, I'll hook you up ;) |
| 20:15.41 | crumb | eh, i'm no good at hix :/ |
| 20:16.20 | crumb | i haven't mastered the dynamics of ricochet :S |
| 20:19.53 | brad | not hard to pick up if you can dodge well enough:D |
| 20:20.10 | crumb | i'm good at dodging in pillbox |
| 20:20.23 | crumb | but there's not much rico action in pillbox |
| 20:24.00 | brad | that's what we need.....pillbox with ricos! |
| 20:24.06 | brad | ...and jumping! |
| 20:24.13 | crumb | heh |
| 20:24.13 | brad | and laser |
| 21:18.02 | crumb | nobody plays turrets :/ |
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