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| 19:50.49 | brad | weird bug that's happened twice today (with just us 2): http://i.imgur.com/opGZwAO.jpg Heisenberg didn't see me join but I could still see him, all others could see both of us |
| 19:51.08 | brad | and as you see, text coming through as UNKNOWN |
| 19:51.54 | blast007 | is it a league server? |
| 19:52.57 | brad | yea |
| 19:53.30 | brad | same players each time, heisenberg not seeing me |
| 19:54.22 | blast007 | and only that player doesn't see you? |
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| 19:54.57 | brad | yup |
| 19:55.04 | brad | everyone else was shooting me fine |
| 19:55.07 | brad | he didn't even see my tank |
| 19:55.16 | blast007 | any idea if you were in slot 0? (logs from when you joined or talked may show it) |
| 19:55.25 | brad | slot 1 |
| 19:55.34 | blast007 | hmm |
| 19:55.36 | brad | i havent rejoined since, it happened a few mins ago :p |
| 19:55.55 | brad | him rejoining fixed it |
| 19:56.06 | brad | and he was slot #7 i think |
| 19:56.10 | aFreshMelon | PC don't do stuff randomly, either of you must've done something. |
| 19:57.12 | blast007 | aFreshMelon: yeah, they musta pressed the "break the player state data" button *rolls eyes* |
| 19:57.17 | brad | grrr..now he says its happened to others;) |
| 19:57.21 | brad | with him not seeing people |
| 19:57.42 | brad | but this time only me |
| 19:57.46 | blast007 | I'd be curious if the issues goes away if they update to 2.4.2 |
| 19:57.46 | brad | could still see others |
| 19:57.51 | blast007 | issue* |
| 19:58.06 | brad | will ask him to update |
| 19:58.23 | blast007 | not that I recall us fixing an issue like that, of course ;) |
| 19:58.44 | blast007 | it's probably just some wacky connection glitch |
| 19:58.51 | aFreshMelon | Why does bzfs allow clients with outdated builds? |
| 19:58.56 | brad | heh |
| 19:59.47 | blast007 | aFreshMelon: you do realize that we break compatability from time to time, so there's a limit to how old of a client you can use, right? :P |
| 19:59.59 | aFreshMelon | Yes |
| 20:00.09 | blast007 | so then why does it really matter that much? |
| 20:00.10 | aFreshMelon | But why does it not limit to newest version? it's not hard to update |
| 20:00.27 | aFreshMelon | Because of weird glitches like that. Seems like it would be more compatible. |
| 20:00.31 | brad | some league players believe 2.4.2 slows the mouse down |
| 20:00.35 | brad | so they won't update :p |
| 20:00.43 | brad | idk if there's any truth to that |
| 20:00.58 | aFreshMelon | They actually programmed "slowMouseDown()" into it |
| 20:01.01 | blast007 | aFreshMelon: we avoid incompatible changes in releases |
| 20:01.19 | blast007 | aFreshMelon: could you just shut up now? |
| 20:01.41 | aFreshMelon | blast007: Why so rude? |
| 20:03.25 | blast007 | becase you're not being helpful in this discussion |
| 20:15.01 | blast007 | brad: it seems like it should spit out an error on his client if the issue was the addPlayer trying to overwrite an existing player, so it's not apparently that (which I have seen before) |
| 20:15.27 | blast007 | and previous there had been some wacky edge cases with slot 0 (but it wasn't that here) |
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| 20:24.04 | blast007 | and I think the MsgAddPlayer is sent TCP, so it shouldn't be getting lost. |
| 20:36.25 | brad | his connection isn't the best, but couldn't see any loss at the time |
| 20:36.41 | brad | around 100ms, no jit, no loss |
| 20:36.54 | brad | but of course, that's only what bzfs tells us |
| 20:37.36 | blast007 | the loss metric in bzfs only deals with UDP, as I think excessive loss in TCP would just yield in a disconnect |
| 20:38.42 | brad | ah |
| 20:39.21 | blast007 | so, loss isn't likely to be an issue anyways - might be something getting processed out of order (which would have to be UDP data) that is getting it into a wack state, or some other code path going screwy |
| 20:41.25 | brad | I'll ask if he sees it on other servers too |
| 20:42.05 | brad | ya, not limited to 1 |
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| 21:05.02 | blast007 | fun |
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