| 01:14.18 | WillsParadise | blast007: weird question - this guy in server keeps killing people with thief |
| 01:14.21 | WillsParadise | he isnt even firing |
| 01:14.25 | WillsParadise | what gives? |
| 01:14.32 | blast007 | cheating |
| 01:14.44 | WillsParadise | known thing? |
| 01:14.51 | khonkhortisan | aw man, I missed the good stuff |
| 01:15.03 | WillsParadise | its that stupid k29 venezuela guy |
| 01:15.06 | WillsParadise | he killed me with with thief |
| 01:17.56 | blast007 | well, not seeing anything odd myself, but that doesn't necessary mean anything .. it's also possible it could have been someone else |
| 01:18.17 | blast007 | could be some loophole in our logic somewhere |
| 01:18.22 | WillsParadise | whats your callsign? |
| 01:18.26 | khonkhortisan | blast |
| 01:18.43 | WillsParadise | oh i didnt see you in |
| 01:18.48 | WillsParadise | oops.. |
| 01:18.48 | blast007 | observer |
| 01:18.49 | khonkhortisan | as observer |
| 01:18.56 | WillsParadise | kicked the guy for reason "whats your callsign" |
| 01:19.08 | WillsParadise | he didn't speak english anyways so oh well |
| 01:19.17 | WillsParadise | he started yelling at me in spanish caps lock |
| 01:19.26 | WillsParadise | ze boss says hes banned from most of the servers |
| 01:19.41 | WillsParadise | what on earth how is he back on |
| 01:20.20 | blast007 | did you kick him or ban him? |
| 01:20.36 | WillsParadise | both |
| 01:20.43 | blast007 | also, do you have a ban file defined yet? |
| 01:20.43 | WillsParadise | i did /hostban 200.93.22.* Reason |
| 01:20.51 | WillsParadise | his IP is |
| 01:20.52 | blast007 | well, that's not how hostban works |
| 01:21.01 | WillsParadise | 200.93.22.225 |
| 01:21.06 | blast007 | I mean it might for someone without a hostname, but that should be an IP ban |
| 01:21.11 | WillsParadise | oh |
| 01:21.13 | blast007 | a regular /ban |
| 01:21.21 | khonkhortisan | don quixote is a reference to literature |
| 01:21.21 | WillsParadise | so use /ban with same syntax? |
| 01:21.35 | blast007 | yeah |
| 01:21.42 | blast007 | and what duration did you specify? |
| 01:21.48 | WillsParadise | 0 |
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| 01:22.00 | WillsParadise | hes caused trouble on other servers do dont want him on mine |
| 01:22.20 | WillsParadise | there we go it kicked him with the ban |
| 01:23.36 | WillsParadise | i |
| 01:23.50 | WillsParadise | blast007: I do have a banfile.txt with two previous bans in it |
| 01:23.59 | WillsParadise | but the one I just made is not in there - does it write later? |
| 01:23.59 | blast007 | k |
| 01:24.12 | blast007 | is it owned by root? ;) |
| 01:24.20 | WillsParadise | oh |
| 01:24.21 | blast007 | might need to chown it to your user |
| 01:24.22 | WillsParadise | crap |
| 01:24.27 | WillsParadise | and reban |
| 01:24.47 | khonkhortisan | I wonder how those other bans got there first |
| 01:24.58 | blast007 | because he was running it as root initially.. |
| 01:25.05 | WillsParadise | should i copy banfile.txt to user folder too? |
| 01:25.17 | khonkhortisan | you could link it |
| 01:25.19 | blast007 | oh, it was still inside /root too? ;D |
| 01:25.24 | blast007 | no, copy it |
| 01:25.24 | WillsParadise | of course :P |
| 01:25.42 | WillsParadise | it won't take effect though til i restart server though |
| 01:25.44 | WillsParadise | right? |
| 01:25.48 | blast007 | right |
| 01:26.07 | WillsParadise | ill just have to write down his IP and ban it after I reboot server |
| 01:26.08 | blast007 | have to update the config to point to the right location too |
| 01:26.12 | WillsParadise | yeah |
| 01:26.23 | WillsParadise | is it ok to update config wile server is live? |
| 01:26.29 | blast007 | sure |
| 01:26.31 | WillsParadise | k |
| 01:27.51 | WillsParadise | unrelated question - how do I get out of /bin/sh |
| 01:28.15 | WillsParadise | somehow started it and can't quit it :P |
| 01:29.21 | khonkhortisan | exit or another /bin/sh |
| 01:29.44 | WillsParadise | ahh exit |
| 01:29.47 | WillsParadise | i did quit |
| 01:29.50 | WillsParadise | control c |
| 01:29.52 | WillsParadise | goaway |
| 01:29.54 | WillsParadise | nothing worked :P |
| 01:30.01 | blast007 | Ctrl-D |
| 01:30.16 | WillsParadise | not even sure why i was in /bin/sh |
| 01:30.34 | WillsParadise | all a big learning experience for me |
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| 03:06.52 | WillsParadise | ahh yep know why my bans weren't working |
| 03:07.01 | WillsParadise | last lines in server console: Could not open /root/bzflag/banfile.txt |
| 03:07.02 | WillsParadise | :P |
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| 03:19.10 | WillsParadise | blast007: Just curious - why do you give unregistered people access to flaghistory and idlestats? |
| 03:35.08 | WillsParadise | I think I am going to use this on my server |
| 03:35.16 | WillsParadise | EVERYONE: -ALL ACTIONMESSAGE ADMINMESSAGESEND DATE LAGSTATS SPAWN |
| 03:35.16 | WillsParadise | VERIFIED: -ALL *EVERYONE FLAGHISTORY IDLESTATS REQUIREIDENTIFY POLL POLLBAN POLLKICK VOTE TALK |
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| 04:24.09 | Constitution | WillsParadise: that is typical, since that is useful information for players and there's little reason to make it privileged |
| 04:24.32 | WillsParadise | figured |
| 04:24.44 | WillsParadise | im giving my unregistered as little as possible to motivate them to register :P |
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| 05:41.51 | Snake12534 | bzaddict.net servers down - bzaddict.net/manage temporarily down, the website is now fixed, any bzaddict.net map owner, you can start your map by restarting your server |
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| 17:51.48 | WillsParadise | If I have both lagannounce and lagwarn set to the same - whenever I see a lag announce - they should be getting a warning too - correct? |
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| 17:53.21 | blast007 | I always seemed to think that lagannounce showed it far more often, but I never checked the code |
| 17:53.44 | WillsParadise | I kept getting like.. at least 10-15 warnings of his ping he swears he didnt get htem but i think he was just being ignorant |
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| 17:54.30 | WillsParadise | the weird part was his connection would average in the high 100s.. but id keep getting announcements for high 300-400 and 1100+ ... but his jitter was low |
| 17:54.33 | blast007 | well what's your lagdrop set to? |
| 17:54.38 | WillsParadise | 4 |
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| 17:55.02 | blast007 | then it obviously isn't sending at the same rate or he'd have been kicked 3 times already :P |
| 17:55.04 | WillsParadise | i dont understand why his jitter would show <5ms when he was going from 100-1100+ constantly |
| 17:55.29 | blast007 | because that might actually be latency differences from packet loss |
| 17:55.41 | blast007 | the jitter might use some smoothing as well, dunno |
| 17:55.53 | WillsParadise | hmm |
| 17:56.06 | WillsParadise | is the drop settings for a specific time period though? |
| 17:56.09 | blast007 | I'd just turn lagannounce off |
| 17:56.25 | WillsParadise | cause id get a couple of warnings..then nothing for 5min then couple more..repeat |
| 17:56.34 | blast007 | hmm, maybe? |
| 17:57.37 | WillsParadise | wiki doesnt mention a time limit - but it seems there might be once as he wasn't kicked that I can see |
| 17:59.56 | blast007 | you know what's great about open source? you can verify how it works! ;) |
| 18:00.11 | blast007 | src/game/LagInfo.cxx |
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| 18:35.22 | WillsParadise | :P |
| 18:35.39 | WillsParadise | i need to up my player limit i guess - its been maxed for awhile now |
| 18:36.10 | WillsParadise | blast007: i think my lagdrop isn't working |
| 18:36.20 | WillsParadise | i see in console 4 back to back lag warnings for same person - but was not kicked |
| 18:37.33 | blast007 | was the message from the lagannounce or was it sent to the individual player? |
| 18:38.32 | WillsParadise | how do I tell? |
| 18:38.51 | blast007 | I don't know. I don't use the normal bzfs logging anymore. |
| 18:39.00 | blast007 | (I use the logDetail plugin) |
| 18:41.13 | WillsParadise | http://s27.postimg.org/rhv7z6soz/bzfi0006.png |
| 18:41.24 | WillsParadise | actually 5 in a row - cut one off |
| 18:41.51 | alezakos | Yeah, they're public |
| 18:43.13 | WillsParadise | i wouldnt be able to see the messages going right to him would I? |
| 18:45.50 | alezakos | No, unless you are using that plugin |
| 18:46.12 | WillsParadise | same plugin that lets you view direct messages? |
| 18:47.29 | alezakos | The logDetail plugin just logs all the chat events |
| 18:48.14 | alezakos | There is a plugin that lets admins view team and private conversations, but that's not part of the bzflag distribution |
| 18:48.35 | WillsParadise | ah ok |
| 18:48.41 | brad | WillsParadise: you probably dont even need a player limit :p |
| 18:48.43 | WillsParadise | do I have to recompile to use logdetail or just load from config? |
| 18:49.02 | brad | most you're ever going to get is around ~30 and any server can easily handle that |
| 18:50.23 | brad | only time i've seen over 60 players on a server was when bz got slashdotted |
| 18:50.28 | alezakos | There's also the chathistory plugin, which gives you commands that show the last private messages |
| 18:50.30 | brad | oh, and every riker cup ;) |
| 18:51.02 | alezakos | If you compiled bzflag on your own, the logDetail plugin should be ready to use |
| 18:51.35 | alezakos | So do a /loadplugin logDetail and add -loadplugin logDetail in your config |
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| 19:26.24 | blast007 | and if you decide to use logDetail, you can probably remove any debug levels you have (the -d stuff) |
| 19:26.47 | blast007 | WillsParadise: are you actually redirecting output to a file, though? |
| 19:34.20 | WillsParadise | blast007: not to my knowledge |
| 19:36.12 | WillsParadise | blast007: So I just add this to config -conf /path/to/conf.conf >> Serverlog |
| 19:45.27 | blast007 | yup, or if you want to see it in realtime as well, you can do: bzfs -conf /path/to/conf.conf | tee -a Serverlog |
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| 20:00.34 | WillsParadise | and that will write it and show in game? |
| 20:10.54 | blast007 | not in game, no, it will output at the terminal running the server |
| 20:20.07 | WillsParadise | ah ok |
| 20:20.15 | WillsParadise | yaeh for some reason lagdrop isnt working |
| 20:20.22 | WillsParadise | its announced this guys lag about 10x with no kick |
| 20:20.25 | WillsParadise | same guy as before too |
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| 21:14.25 | blast007 | WillsParadise: again, how are you determining it's warning the guy 10 times? |
| 21:14.40 | WillsParadise | the announced |
| 21:14.47 | blast007 | that's different |
| 21:15.09 | blast007 | like I had said, pretty sure the lagannounce fires off much more than the private one |
| 21:15.19 | blast007 | enough so it's annoying |
| 21:16.32 | brad | lagannounce is a bit pointless imo, just let the server kick them |
| 21:16.54 | WillsParadise | and disable lagannounce altogether? |
| 21:16.54 | brad | you'll get fed up with all the spam eventually :p |
| 21:17.18 | brad | yep. can always check lagstats if you need to see current lag |
| 21:17.28 | WillsParadise | yeah |
| 21:17.31 | brad | server is pretty good at kicking laggers on its own |
| 21:18.52 | WillsParadise | what do you use for the drop count? |
| 21:19.04 | WillsParadise | maybe 4 is too high as they stay in server quite long |
| 21:19.05 | brad | 3 iirc |
| 21:19.30 | brad | could try 2;) |
| 21:19.42 | blast007 | 3 is good |
| 21:19.58 | blast007 | and I usually use something like 250 to 300 ms for the lagwarn |
| 21:21.23 | WillsParadise | i have it on 300 now |
| 21:22.13 | WillsParadise | is there no way to specify the "tee -a Serverlog" in the configuration file? |
| 21:23.03 | blast007 | it's not part of bzfs |
| 21:23.16 | blast007 | that's piping the stdout of bzfs to another program called 'tee' |
| 21:23.36 | WillsParadise | pl |
| 21:23.37 | WillsParadise | ok |
| 21:23.41 | blast007 | just like redirecting with >> isn't part of bzfs, it's redirecting the stdout of bzfs to a file |
| 21:24.21 | WillsParadise | is it ok to keep the logdetail plugin in the root/bzfs/plugins folder? |
| 21:24.25 | WillsParadise | or shall I move to user |
| 21:29.25 | blast007 | it's already installed on the system if you did 'make install' |
| 21:29.32 | blast007 | so just -loadplugin logDetail |
| 21:29.52 | WillsParadise | oh ok the wiki said i had to specify the path to it |
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| 21:31.20 | blast007 | with 'make install' it already knows where to look |
| 21:31.24 | brad | hey lm |
| 21:32.04 | WillsParadise | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:32.09 | WillsParadise | seemed to work - no errors on start |
| 21:32.42 | blast007 | the man page for bzfs ('man bzfs') says "-loadplugin name[,options] Load the specified plugin. name can either be the name of the plugin, or a path to its library file. Optionally, you can provide any options the plugin requires." |
| 21:32.52 | blast007 | did you also remove the -d bits? |
| 21:32.59 | WillsParadise | never had -d in config |
| 21:33.43 | blast007 | so you never had any log output from bzfs except for maybe the acceleration limit warning? |
| 21:34.09 | WillsParadise | i suppose |
| 21:38.38 | WillsParadise | so if i load bzfs with the tee -a Serverlog - I should see all the chats taking place thru my ssh session into server? |
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| 21:43.27 | Notify | 03BZFlag:Alezakos * 8814 /Command_Line_Options: Redirected page to [[BZFS Command Line Options]] |
| 21:43.41 | WillsParadise | interesting... i ran /listplugins and it doesn't show it running |
| 21:45.12 | alezakos | Remember that it's case sensitive |
| 21:45.23 | WillsParadise | ahh i found issue |
| 21:45.28 | WillsParadise | it didn't like the .so extension |
| 21:45.32 | WillsParadise | took it off and it loaded |
| 21:45.50 | WillsParadise | sweet now it works |
| 21:46.03 | WillsParadise | MSG-DIRECT 8:alezakos 12:NoTanksForMe test! |
| 21:47.47 | WillsParadise | and it's logging successfully too |
| 21:48.30 | WillsParadise | is there a var to get timestamps in the log? |
| 21:50.11 | alezakos | Try putting the -ts option in your config |
| 21:51.37 | WillsParadise | alezakos: nicely done |
| 21:52.13 | alezakos | :) |
| 21:52.22 | WillsParadise | now to see what other plugins i can get into :P |
| 21:55.06 | alezakos | The forums also have a bunch of plugins |
| 21:55.50 | alezakos | And allejo hosts lots of them on his github account: https://github.com/search?p=1&q=%40allejo+bzflag&type=Repositories |
| 21:57.22 | blast007 | yeah, the extension is only if you are providing the full path |
| 21:57.56 | WillsParadise | ah ok |
| 21:59.02 | WillsParadise | chathistory installed now |
| 21:59.07 | WillsParadise | this will come in handy |
| 22:01.08 | WillsParadise | Open FFA Keepaway sounds fun |
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| 22:06.32 | WillsParadise | blast007: am I doing something wrong.. ChatHistory says it is loaded |
| 22:06.45 | WillsParadise | but when I run /last 10 alezakos it says no history |
| 22:06.49 | WillsParadise | even though we've been chatting each other |
| 22:09.54 | alezakos | Oh, and the privateMessage permission doesn't work |
| 22:10.04 | WillsParadise | what do you mean |
| 22:10.16 | WillsParadise | we were private messaging fine |
| 22:10.49 | alezakos | Yes but I am not supposed to be able to PM you, since I don't have the privateMessage permission |
| 22:11.10 | WillsParadise | why dont you - you are authenticated |
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| 22:11.46 | alezakos | Do a /showperms alezakos |
| 22:11.57 | WillsParadise | "talk" |
| 22:12.08 | alezakos | And then just a /showperms to see your permissions |
| 22:12.20 | alezakos | You have privateMessage, I don't |
| 22:13.16 | WillsParadise | the wiki says privateMessage is for "Player may send private messages with '.' |
| 22:13.19 | WillsParadise | not sure what the . means |
| 22:13.26 | blast007 | keyboard key |
| 22:13.37 | WillsParadise | huh? |
| 22:13.42 | blast007 | that's a shortcut to send to the last person who messaged you, I think |
| 22:13.49 | blast007 | the period key on the keyboard |
| 22:14.06 | WillsParadise | so do people need the privateMessage permission to private message? |
| 22:14.06 | blast007 | but really, that's just one way to trigger a private message. |
| 22:14.06 | WillsParadise | it doesnt seem that way |
| 22:14.18 | blast007 | why would you say it doesn't seem that way? |
| 22:14.28 | WillsParadise | well alezakos doesnt have it but he can PM me |
| 22:15.11 | blast007 | is he sending to the admin chat or just to you? |
| 22:15.18 | WillsParadise | direct to me |
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| 22:21.40 | alezakos | https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag-import-3/blob/v2_4_x/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx#L1464 |
| 22:22.08 | WillsParadise | ahh |
| 22:22.10 | alezakos | bzfs doesn't check for privateMessage anywhere |
| 22:22.29 | alezakos | apart from the /msg command |
| 22:23.07 | WillsParadise | hmmm |
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| 22:23.54 | alezakos | blast007: Does /msg >ALL somethinfg work? |
| 22:24.30 | WillsParadise | i tried in server: 2014-06-10 18:24:10: MSG-TEAM 12:NoTanksForMe NOTEAM test |
| 22:25.02 | alezakos | You already have the permission |
| 22:25.52 | alezakos | I'm wondering if /msg checks for privateMessage only if you send private mesaages or if it ignores the recipient |
| 22:25.52 | blast007 | alezakos: nope, it completely elimates the use of the /msg command |
| 22:26.07 | alezakos | Aha. |
| 22:28.24 | blast007 | WillsParadise: oh, and I did have PRIVATEMESSAGE in the example I gave.. I was actually looking at what you had when I just checked |
| 22:31.05 | WillsParadise | oh |
| 22:31.10 | WillsParadise | hmm so i need to add it |
| 22:34.15 | blast007 | alezakos: and I don't think >all is special cased (as I don't see it in the code), so I think as long as you have something other than >team or >admin starting with a >, it'll send to all. So you could do /msg >bacon nom nom nom! |
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