IRC log for #bzflag on 20140612

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11:19.23Not-cdc9[02bzflag-import-3] 07kongr45gpen pushed 032 commits to 03v2_4_x [+0/-0/±2] 13http://git.io/--BOpw
11:19.24Not-cdc9[02bzflag-import-3] 07kongr45gpen 0390777cf - Do not block all /msg commands when the user lacks the privateMessage permission
11:19.25Not-cdc9[02bzflag-import-3] 07kongr45gpen 03d8654ab - Don't let the user send PMs if they don't have the privateMessage permission Fixes #2
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16:26.56WillsParadiseAnother update alezakos? :)
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16:41.28alezakosWillsParadise: Yeah, the /msg issue was fixed
16:42.11WillsParadiseah nice
16:42.25WillsParadiseI am going to look at the chathistory plugin and see if I can make it show who the msg get sent too
16:42.32WillsParadiseit'd be much more helpful that way
17:29.34blast007WillsParadise: some of our plugins are more examples than anything else
17:29.59WillsParadiseyeah
17:30.12WillsParadisei don't need C very well at all but i understand basics
17:39.30WillsParadisewonder what the highest in game score achievedi n bzflag is... me and a guy are fighting for it right now
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17:43.21blast007WillsParadise: probably 32767, because after that it loops around to -32768   ;)
17:44.16WillsParadiseyou think someones hit that??
17:44.49bradhuge SW + loads of bots + instant respawn!
17:44.55blast007sure
17:45.35WillsParadisestill 32,000..
17:46.21WillsParadiseI thought I was doing good at +200 :P
17:46.48blast007we used to run an official stats site.. there were scores around that value on there... :P
17:47.55bradApparently I got 28k+ ... http://bzstats.strayer.de/players/stats/?name=brad
17:48.00bradway too much free time
17:48.23WillsParadisewow you had -299 one game?
17:48.34bradprobably playing HTF
17:48.35WillsParadise:P
17:48.39brad:D
17:48.45WillsParadisea year of online time
17:48.50blast007I remember when the old stats site code didn't filter HTML, so I played for a bit as <h1>HELLO THERE</h1> and <script>alert('Boo!')</script>
17:49.08bradlol
17:49.23blast007think I got an <img> tag in too
17:49.32WillsParadise:P
17:49.36khonkhortisansounds fun
17:49.45blast007the GU league site was more fun ;)
17:49.47WillsParadisewonder why it says i only have 2days of online time
17:49.55WillsParadisethis callsign is like 6 years old
17:50.11WillsParadiseoh there it is
17:50.19WillsParadiseFirst seen2009-06-11 10:25:01 EDT
17:50.31WillsParadiseyesterday was my 7 year anniversary! :P
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17:50.42brad7?
17:50.44alezakosbrad: http://bzstats.strayer.de/players/stats/?name=alezakos&lang=en
17:50.55brad2014-2009=7
17:51.29bradwaits for strayer's to load
17:51.31blast007didn't you hear brad, it's 2016 now.  Time inflation.
17:51.34bradxD
17:51.43bradalezakos: you hacker!
17:51.53WillsParadiseerr wow
17:51.56WillsParadise:P
17:52.00WillsParadise5 year*
17:52.03alezakos:D
17:52.53blast007that's also only as accurate as the strayer site is.  it's a polling system, meaning it queries for a snapshot of server data every few minutes.
17:55.43WillsParadiseJoined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:20 am
17:59.42blast007looks like the strayer site may have started around june 2006
18:00.10blast007sorry, october 2006 (looked at the wrong line)
18:08.13WillsParadisei probably played awhile before i registered
18:12.09WillsParadisei need to setup the chron plugin to reset flags regularly - they get concentrated real quick on my map
18:14.16bradhttps://github.com/allejo/flagResetTimer
18:15.11WillsParadiseo0o
18:15.13WillsParadisethat'll work too
18:15.45WillsParadiseso i just clone with git then build bzflag again and add to config?
18:16.53bradclone then use the "add to build" script
18:17.13bradits in the plug-ins dir, something like ./addToBuild.sh flagResetTimer
18:18.28WillsParadiseeasy enough
18:20.15WillsParadiseflagResetTimer has been added to the built system.
18:20.18WillsParadisewoohoo
18:20.25WillsParadiseill recompile tonight
18:29.25khonkhortisanYeah there's a large ball of flags in the center
18:29.52khonkhortisanIt makes you have to go out in the open and take a higher risk to be stronger
18:30.10WillsParadiseyeah i try to reset often but forget sometimes
18:30.34WillsParadisei wish it was possible to bind a command to a key
18:30.41WillsParadiseso i could just have a keypress that does it
18:31.01khonkhortisan...it is?
18:31.26WillsParadiseis it?
18:31.36khonkhortisanI do a localset on a key through /bind
18:32.58WillsParadisehmm
18:33.07WillsParadise"Command /flag reset unused not found"
18:33.12WillsParadisewhen i try to use the key
18:36.36WillsParadisemaybe it only works for local commands?
18:45.38alezakos/bind only works for local commands
18:46.12khonkhortisanIs it easy to change that?
18:48.12alezakosYou can go to Options > Input Settings > Change key mapping > Define quick keys
18:48.21alezakosand enter any command you'd like
18:48.46WillsParadiselet me try that
18:48.49khonkhortisanit works
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18:48.55khonkhortisan"You do not have the FlagMod permission"
18:49.51WillsParadisethat works
18:51.01alezakosYou can also send server commands through /msg
18:51.09alezakos/msg >admin /me likes toast
18:52.47WillsParadisethat works;p
18:52.51WillsParadiseoops
18:52.52WillsParadise"{
18:52.55WillsParadiseugh
18:53.47blast007WillsParadise: you'll have to "stash" your changes when you update the source code, now ;)
18:54.00WillsParadisehuh
18:54.39blast007git stash && git pull --rebase && git stash pop && ./autogen.sh -v && ./configure && make && make install
18:55.23blast007unless you commit your local changes, then the two 'stash' parts aren't necessary
18:57.57alezakosOh, and there's a typo in your -admsg
18:58.25WillsParadiseoops
18:58.30WillsParadiseaccidentally shut server down :P
18:58.35WillsParadiseback up now
18:58.52blast007"I meant to copy some text, but Ctrl-C killed the server!"
18:58.58WillsParadise:P
18:59.21WillsParadisewhat is my type alezakos?
18:59.43blast007typo*
18:59.43khonkhortisanyou answered your own question with type
18:59.51blast007;D
18:59.52WillsParadisegeezus
18:59.54WillsParadisei can't type today
18:59.56alezakosTrue :P
18:59.58WillsParadisedepsite?
19:00.01alezakosYup
19:00.03WillsParadiseis that what you're talking about
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19:00.28WillsParadisefixed
19:00.40blast007funny thing is that I normally spell typo as 'type' too.. :P
19:00.52WillsParadiseim on this weird keyboard
19:00.56WillsParadisestill getting use to it
19:01.17WillsParadiseits a two piece keyboard
19:02.25blast007some glue could probably fix that
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19:03.40WillsParadisetest?
19:03.59blast007test failed
19:04.13WillsParadisegot a message
19:04.16WillsParadise"SERVER TERMINATING YOU"
19:04.18WillsParadise:(
19:04.32blast007looked like a netsplit on this end
19:04.59blast007ah, yeah, they restarted one of the IRC servers
19:05.04WillsParadisehttp://www.ergonomicoffice.com.au/products/images_large/kinfree_lge.jpg
19:05.09blast00714:02:44 [freenode] -!- WALLOP tomaw:  One restart today, 2382 users.
19:05.40blast007yeah, think I've seen that one before
19:08.22WillsParadiseyeah
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19:14.08ZE_heyo
19:14.32blast007hello
19:14.46ZE_finally figured this thing out
19:15.05ZE_thanks alezakos!
19:15.14WillsParadise:P
19:15.17WillsParadisebout time
19:15.24ZE_heh
19:15.30WillsParadisehow do I register my name on here?
19:15.59blast007/quote nickserv help register
19:16.00macsforme/msg nickserv help register
19:16.40WillsParadise\thx
19:16.47blast007( /quote is a bit more secure, iirc, as it sends it as a server command instead of a private message)
19:17.45WillsParadiseoh well done
19:17.56WillsParadiseI actually use to be an IRCop back in the day beleive ir or not
19:17.59WillsParadisebut that was on GamesNET
19:18.43blast007there's been times, for instance, when services were down (meaning nickserver/chanserv/etc) and name protection for the service accounts wasn't working, so someone was able to change their nickname to 'nickserv' and receive passwords.
19:20.23blast007for instance: http://blog.freenode.net/2014/04/heartbleed/  ;)
19:21.11WillsParadiseyikes
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19:21.46blast007I also use the server password method for identifying, so I pass username:password as the server password
19:22.02blast007where username is the primary account name
19:29.36WillsParadisethe only thing i dont like about this client is it doesn't give option to echo server messages in the current window
19:38.36blast007I would hate that ;)
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19:39.40blast007though it seems like client likely has an option for that (as I see a use_status_window option)
19:43.05WillsParadiseyeah i dont see it
19:43.14WillsParadiseits almost a deal breaker
19:43.24blast007I'm using irssi
19:43.33WillsParadiseim on mac
19:43.38WillsParadiseusing LimeChat
19:44.04blast007I'm on Windows, SSH'ing to a Linux box running irssi inside of screen ;)
19:45.21WillsParadiseoh they have a room here on freenode
19:45.24WillsParadiselet me go see
19:46.16blast007oh, and by "I would hate that" I meant I would hate having server messages show up in my channel windows
19:46.24WillsParadiseoh
19:46.30blast007I love having a separate 'window' for those messages
19:47.03WillsParadisemeh
19:51.48WillsParadisewhere do you live blast007?
19:52.10blast007I live in a state of constant denial.
19:52.40WillsParadisehmm
19:52.42WillsParadiseERROR: automake failed
19:53.16blast007can you be more specific?
19:53.27WillsParadisesrc/bzflag/Makefile.am:190: warning: source file '$(top_srcdir)/src/other/glew/src/glew.c' is in a subdirectory,
19:53.27WillsParadisesrc/bzflag/Makefile.am:190: but option 'subdir-objects' is disabled
19:53.27WillsParadiseERROR: automake failed
19:54.28blast007this is on your server?  what files did you change when adding the extra plugin?
19:55.24WillsParadisenothing
19:55.28WillsParadisei just cloned the plugin
19:56.02blast007okay..
19:56.57WillsParadiseand then I ran the file to add the plugin to the build
19:56.59WillsParadisethat's all I did
19:57.09blast007so you did change some files, just not directly ;)
19:57.34blast007what command(s) did you run to build just now?
19:58.51WillsParadisethe one you gave
19:58.56WillsParadisegit stash && git pull --rebase && git stash pop && ./autogen.sh -v && ./configure && make && make install
20:00.36blast007run ./autogen.sh -v
20:00.42blast007and tell me if you get any error there
20:12.22WillsParadisek let me try
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20:13.56WillsParadisesame error
20:14.34blast007post the entire output of that command to http://pastie.org/ or similar, along with the output of 'git diff'
20:15.03WillsParadisehttp://pastebin.com/pZzE7mar
20:15.59blast007and the 'git diff' ?
20:16.13WillsParadisehttp://pastebin.com/wMNAcKDW
20:17.39blast007configure.ac:1148: error: required file 'plugins/flagResetTimer/Makefile.in' not found
20:18.13WillsParadisehmmm
20:18.20WillsParadiseI cloned it from git
20:18.36blast007that plugin repository doesn't contain everything necessary to build
20:18.52blast007you'll have to copy Makefile.in from SAMPLE_PLUGIN and modify it accordingly
20:20.49WillsParadiseoy vey
20:21.37blast007sorry, copy Makefile.am
20:21.45WillsParadiseoh
20:22.06blast007.in is the intermediate file that gets created from autogen
20:22.19WillsParadiseoh crap
20:22.21blast007the .am is much shorter ;)
20:22.28WillsParadisei just deleted the .am file from Sample
20:22.44blast007git checkout Makefile.am
20:22.55WillsParadisenice
20:23.15WillsParadisewhat do I have to modify?
20:23.38WillsParadiseah I see now
20:24.03blast007swap all SAMPLE_PLUGIN with flagResetTimer
20:29.56WillsParadiseok
20:30.00WillsParadisenow just rerun the commands?
20:31.10blast007yeah, autogen, configure, make, make install
20:32.00WillsParadisesame error
20:33.16WillsParadisehttp://pastebin.com/jBxvuvvZ
20:35.53blast007nope, different error
20:36.08blast007you have errors in your Makefile.am file for the new plugin
20:36.22WillsParadise:(
20:36.27WillsParadisei just did a replace all
20:36.45blast007pastebin that Makefile.am
20:36.55blast007and then I'll take a peek in just a bit
20:37.22WillsParadisehttp://pastebin.com/HxmqCzHX
21:00.54blast007you're missing the 'li' at the start of the first line.. should start with lib_
21:01.42WillsParadisehow on earth did that happen :/
21:01.43blast007your EXTRA_DIST section also has files that don't exist with that new plugin
21:02.15blast007get rid of the .def .sln and .vcxproj and remove the \ from the end of README.txt
21:02.25WillsParadise:quit
21:02.27WillsParadiseoops
21:02.29blast007;D
21:02.34JeffMplease enter root password
21:02.42WillsParadiseiLoveCookies
21:02.45WillsParadisecrap
21:02.56WillsParadiseI think it is making anyways
21:03.26WillsParadise"making all in bzfs"
21:03.35blast007the EXTRA_DIST part won't necessarily matter as I think that's only used for 'make distclean', and even then, having missing items may not be fatal
21:03.50WillsParadiseum i think it finished
21:04.10WillsParadiselets give it a test
21:06.04WillsParadiselooks like it worked
21:07.43WillsParadiseplugin works like a charm
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22:51.57WillsParadiseaww my server votebanned my bot i had in there :P
22:53.49blast007why were you running a bot?
22:54.14WillsParadisei always put a bot in there when I start it up from maintenance
22:54.23WillsParadiseit usually will fill server in 5-10min then I remove it
22:54.39WillsParadisewent to dinner instead and they banned it
22:54.51blast007http://wiki.bzflag.org/List_Server_Usage_Policy
22:55.06blast007search for 'bot' there
22:55.08WillsParadiseoops
22:55.11blast007;)
22:55.12WillsParadisedid not know
22:55.43blast007it is kinda on a buried wiki page..
22:55.44WillsParadiseSo adding just 1 is considerating inflating the position?
22:55.54blast007yep
22:56.05WillsParadiseSo I guess I just stay in obs ... same thing
22:56.19blast007it's a bit iffy
22:56.51WillsParadisedoesnt violate the Usage Policy :P
22:57.04blast007observers count as 0.1 players for the list sorting, but with the current limited number of players even one observer can bump someone to the first part of the list..
22:57.22blast007so for 2.6 I'd proably make observers not count at all
22:57.59WillsParadiseso..if I join my server and add a bot to play with until someone joins - does htat violate?
22:58.02blast007if we had more players than servers, sorting by the ping to the server would be viable
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22:58.09blast007yeah
22:58.21blast007if you want to play yourself to get people to join, that's fine
22:58.25blast007but using a bot is a no-no
22:58.31WillsParadisewow

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