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| 17:59.45 | blast007 | is it time to throw in the towel with regards to the current codebase and actively start looking at other viable game engines/libraries? |
| 18:00.08 | blast007 | just wonder if our current code is nothing more than a dead end |
| 18:01.16 | blast007 | like.. maybe we could define a list of features we need and throw up a feature matrix for the possible engines |
| 18:01.57 | blast007 | create some basic games in the top 3 or so, see how easy they are to work with and if they're missing anything important |
| 18:04.48 | blast007 | compare platform support, determine a baseline for hardware requirements, etc |
| 18:32.32 | blast007 | check on packaging status in various linux distros, maturity of the engine and how often they may break API (and if they do, how detailed their uprade docs are), alternative packaging methods (auto-update).. |
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| 20:35.54 | JeffM | webGL :) |
| 22:02.10 | Constitution | for graphics specifically, or more universally? |
| 22:02.52 | JeffM | blast007, what you are describing is called a "candidate systems matrix" |
| 22:07.44 | blast007 | Constitution: for everything |
| 22:12.09 | JeffM | write up some requirements documents |
| 22:12.09 | Constitution | maybe make OpenGL ES support a factor also |
| 22:12.26 | JeffM | any engine slected should be able to have multiple render targets |
| 22:12.29 | JeffM | so that would be a requirement |
| 22:12.57 | JeffM | the normal way to proceede would be to write up a set of functional and non-function requiremnts |
| 22:13.07 | JeffM | things bzflag MUST do/support at a very high level |
| 22:13.16 | JeffM | and any contraints |
| 22:13.39 | JeffM | then you look at all the available systems and give them rankings based on those critera |
| 22:13.52 | JeffM | and you rank the cost of moding the existing codebase to meet the requirements |
| 22:13.59 | JeffM | then pick the one that fits best |
| 22:14.13 | JeffM | then write up your design docs, and implement |
| 22:16.19 | blast007 | and to give a bit of context for why I think we should look into this - it just seems like a lot of the remaining issues with the game are going to require major refactoring, and things that other engines already handle |
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