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| 19:31.47 | reber | hi all |
| 19:32.16 | reber | what is the best/easy to use bzflag map editor please ? |
| 19:38.38 | allejo | there is no real easy way |
| 19:52.49 | blast007 | what kind of map are you trying to make? just old-school boxes and pyramids? |
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| 20:40.04 | allejo | remote, we know why your motto isn't appearing on the duc website. kierra's gonna fix it when she gets a chance |
| 20:49.02 | kierra | Fixed |
| 20:56.35 | remote | ah cool |
| 20:56.39 | remote | what happened? |
| 20:57.20 | blast007 | you hadn't paid your membership fee, but they decided to waive the charge |
| 20:57.22 | blast007 | ducks |
| 20:58.14 | remote | thank you guys I'm really grateful! |
| 20:58.29 | blast007 | it was some database wonkyness where it didn't have your bzid associated with your ducati league account |
| 21:04.29 | remote | i can |
| 21:04.39 | remote | i can tell the database is not a good mix with tank games |
| 21:04.55 | remote | people would get confused with the red base or other team's base |
| 21:05.04 | remote | better not to use it i'd say |
| 21:13.20 | alezakos | I think you just confused the databases |
| 21:14.07 | blast007 | I'll go ask the Oracle for guidance |
| 21:22.57 | reber | blast007, yes old school boxes and pyramids. If i can better stuff of course |
| 21:23.29 | reber | allejo, i saw a bunch of app here : http://wiki.bzflag.org/Category:Map_Making |
| 21:23.39 | blast007 | there's a number of editors that can do just normal boxes and stuff, but there isn't an editor that supports all the features of BZFlag 2.0+ |
| 21:23.40 | reber | most of them seems abandoned |
| 21:23.49 | blast007 | yep :) |
| 21:24.02 | reber | ok :( |
| 21:24.03 | blast007 | the map format *is* just text based, so it can technically be written by hand |
| 21:24.16 | reber | that's just the way to do it ? |
| 21:24.41 | reber | i mean what tool does real map designers use ? |
| 21:24.53 | blast007 | Wings3D is a modeling program that can dump out BZW files, but it would be a mesh object (so it can't do teleporters, for instance) |
| 21:25.46 | blast007 | most map authors either write it all by hand, use some scripting to generate it, or use one of the existing tools (plus a little hand editing) |
| 21:25.47 | reber | is this bzw file still readable to use it in a plain text editor ? |
| 21:25.47 | joevano_ | reber: real map designers do it in a text editer for the most part. |
| 21:26.11 | reber | ok joevano_ that's fine, i'm gonna give it a try |
| 21:26.24 | blast007 | the 'bzw' man page covers the map format |
| 21:26.25 | reber | any emacs mode for bz ;)))) ? |
| 21:26.34 | joevano_ | i think so |
| 21:26.54 | blast007 | check the forum. I recall a few people writing syntax highlighting definition files for various editors. |
| 21:27.37 | joevano_ | http://forums.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=18429&p=167965&hilit=emacs#p167965 |
| 21:27.55 | joevano_ | emacs ^^^ |
| 21:28.11 | reber | cool thanks :)))) |
| 21:28.42 | joevano_ | he says it isn't great... but it is something |
| 21:30.54 | reber | are there any other text tools i could try ? |
| 21:32.21 | blast007 | regardless of what tool, you should also familarize yourself with bzfs, the BZFlag game server. You'll want to test your map periodically with bzfs to see how it looks and works in the game. |
| 21:44.45 | reber | yeap |
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