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| 10:33.24 | valera_rozuvan | Hi all! |
| 10:33.38 | valera_rozuvan | So, my idea for a "Better BZFlag Clone" is taking shape = ) |
| 10:33.59 | valera_rozuvan | Please see my last post in the thread https://forums.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19154 . |
| 10:34.32 | valera_rozuvan | I welcome you all to a great discussion of how to proceed forwards into the future!!! |
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| 16:30.03 | BulletCatcher | How many man-hours of work do you estimate would be required to create a basic playable BZFlag clone, valera_rozuvan? |
| 16:33.09 | valera_rozuvan | BulletCatcher: I believe that the idea I outlined in the post over at the forum will take about 3-4 years to complete. I envision a team of 6 people working on this project 40-60 hours a month. |
| 16:34.17 | valera_rozuvan | 6 "dedicated" people. Any minor contributions are always welcome in an open-source project = ) |
| 16:41.59 | valera_rozuvan | So, if you use the upper limits of my assumption, you get the number 17280. I guess we can round that to 20000. So, BulletCatcher, the answer to your question is 20000 manhours! |
| 16:45.42 | valera_rozuvan | However, I don't know what you meant by "a basic playable" BulletCatcher ... your opinion and my opinion will differ on what is a basic playable BZFlag clone = ) |
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| 16:51.57 | BulletCatcher | 40-60 hours per month for 3-4 years is a big commitment for a person, although that is roughly how much I *played* BZFlag when I first started. |
| 16:52.24 | BulletCatcher | I don't have that much spare time any more. |
| 16:57.23 | BulletCatcher | Exactly 6 different people have committed changes to the BZFlag source repo in the last year. |
| 16:58.57 | BulletCatcher | That approximate size of a team of active developers has work fairly well for us over the years. |
| 17:00.50 | BulletCatcher | But the past and current devs haven't shown much more than a "wouldn't it be nice" interest in a fresh start. |
| 17:01.55 | BulletCatcher | Just moving the source repo from Subversion to Git was a lot of work for a small benefit. |
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| 17:05.16 | valera_rozuvan | I am aware of all the things you mentioned, BulletCatcher. However, I also know that it takes just a single person to dream big, and make the first step. The others will follow = ) |
| 17:05.48 | valera_rozuvan | Anyways, the year is just starting. Me and Constitution are probing the waters on the forums to see what people want and don't want. |
| 17:06.16 | valera_rozuvan | Slowly, but surely, the clone is starting to get ready to materialize! |
| 17:07.00 | valera_rozuvan | BulletCatcher, come. Join forces with us! |
| 17:07.20 | blast007 | "come to the dark side.. we have cookies!" |
| 17:08.19 | valera_rozuvan | blast007, You are not far from the truth! I am willing to setup a mechanism to deliver cookies to anyone who will contribute code to the future clone... |
| 17:08.20 | blast007 | at this point, do you have anything more than a bulleted list of ideas? |
| 17:08.20 | valera_rozuvan | = ) |
| 17:08.38 | the_map | "bulleted" list? |
| 17:08.55 | valera_rozuvan | the_map, No, it doesn't have holes in it... |
| 17:09.58 | BulletCatcher | I don't have the spare time to make a significant contribution to a BZFlag clone. |
| 17:10.12 | BulletCatcher | And I don't know anyone else who does, either. |
| 17:10.21 | valera_rozuvan | blast007, I am in the process of writing up several documents. We have started to generate and discuss ideas with Constitution . In terms of code - no, no code at this point. I was busy at the end of last year... so only starting to get the act together now = ) |
| 17:11.11 | BulletCatcher | But I admire your optimism and enthusiasm. |
| 17:11.40 | valera_rozuvan | BulletCatcher, bless you. May the force be with us! |
| 17:11.40 | valera_rozuvan | = ) |
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