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| 03:40.38 | ccb | blast: global down |
| 03:42.20 | BulletCatcher | works for me |
| 03:42.34 | ccb | not for anyone else |
| 03:42.39 | ccb | dont check the server list join a server |
| 03:44.06 | ccb | Bullet: never seen this before, list works but once connecting to server global doesn't authenticate. |
| 03:44.59 | BulletCatcher | It works for some servers, but not for others. |
| 03:45.13 | BulletCatcher | The Internet is partially, broken it seems. |
| 03:46.27 | ccb | seems like its back up |
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| 11:58.12 | blast007 | no force feedback when using SDL2 on Windows, so I imagine we don't hook any of that up |
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| 17:41.30 | DTRemenak | blast007: iirc we always try to use directinput on windows, even when building against SDLPlatform, since SDL did not originally have any FF support. May have changed more recently. |
| 17:44.08 | blast007 | I'm not building the native platform stuff at all |
| 17:44.46 | blast007 | I'll see if I can build just the input stuff for Windows and use that instead |
| 17:44.57 | DTRemenak | did someone implement SDL2 FF in general? both linux and windows platforms used to jump to native for input. |
| 17:45.36 | blast007 | probably not |
| 17:46.10 | blast007 | mainly I'm trying to use SDL2 for just setting up the display since our Windows platform code fails on Windows 10 with AMD graphics |
| 17:46.21 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 17:47.12 | blast007 | SDL2 fixes that, but then input and audio kinda suck ;) |
| 17:47.39 | blast007 | so I'll try what you suggested and see if I can mix it |
| 17:47.43 | DTRemenak | you should be able to pick and choose which platform elements you want to use |
| 17:48.05 | DTRemenak | windows was a bit more monolithic than the others |
| 17:48.30 | DTRemenak | SDL originally gave us a ~10% performance hit on windows. may want to check if that's still the case. |
| 17:49.57 | DTRemenak | it WAS a decade ago that any of that was last tested ;) |
| 17:51.58 | DTRemenak | WinPlatformFactory::createJoystick returns an SDLJoystick only if bzdb variable SDLJoystick is set; otherwise it always uses either DXJoystick or WinJoystick depending whether DirectInput was present at build time |
| 17:53.06 | DTRemenak | are you building SDLPlatform, instead of WinPlatform with HAVE_SDL? |
| 18:09.56 | blast007 | gah, can't check.. was gonna RDP over an SSH tunnel, but remembered that I took my fancy router down because that's the only machine I have that has the right AMD hardware to test the issue on Windows 10 :/ |
| 18:11.53 | DTRemenak | I tend to avoid both AMD and Windows 10 ;) |
| 18:12.44 | DTRemenak | probably can't just tell our players to do that though, eh? |
| 18:12.51 | blast007 | I think I had set it to compile all the SDL2* files, and SDLJoystick, SDLPlatformFactory and SDLMedia |
| 18:13.04 | blast007 | and then disabled all the Win* platform stuff |
| 18:13.07 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 18:13.52 | DTRemenak | Probably better to use WinPlatform, and hook up the SDL2 stuff the same way the SDL stuff is conditionally turned on now |
| 18:14.25 | DTRemenak | there's a set of bzdb variables that control which individual platform elements we use |
| 18:14.30 | blast007 | yeah, I'll give that a shot. Hadn't realized it wasn't an 'all or nothing' kind of thing. |
| 18:15.48 | DTRemenak | linuxplatform chooses at build time, and the others are all really straightforward. winplatform is the odd one. |
| 18:17.13 | DTRemenak | can we detect the win10+amd problem before it actually causes a problem? |
| 18:17.52 | DTRemenak | if we still have performance problems with SDL, maybe we could turn it on in just the problematic cases |
| 18:25.03 | blast007 | I might still see if I can fix the native stuff |
| 18:26.12 | DTRemenak | any idea what's going wrong? |
| 18:27.09 | blast007 | it gets stuck inside DestroyWindow, basically |
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| 18:27.30 | DTRemenak | that's an odd place to have a problem |
| 18:27.43 | blast007 | https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag/issues/35 |
| 18:28.09 | blast007 | and the odd thing is that if I bring up the AMD control panel once, then it will work |
| 18:28.17 | blast007 | until I log off or restart, and then it breaks again |
| 18:57.17 | blast007 | (and for extra fun, I believe if you set breakpoints and step through it slow enough, it works) |
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