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| 03:56.00 | allejo | oh man. thank you past me for this: https://wiki.bzflag.org/Bz_getPlayerSpawnAtBase |
| 03:58.21 | allejo | now, I just hope it actually works |
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| 06:59.02 | allejo | Can someone remind me why we increment events with version numbers? I know it's to prevent breaking older things but what exactly causes the breaking/what breaks? |
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| 08:21.41 | BZnotify | [13bzflag] 15allejo pushed 1 new commit to 062.4: 02https://git.io/vVI8W |
| 08:21.41 | BZnotify | 13bzflag/062.4 14f0b7515 15allejo: Allow a plugin to know whether or not a player should start at their base |
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| 08:23.50 | allejo | so... don't kill me. I know we're in RC2... but. I kinda wanted to get that fix out. i tested it and it worked. can someone else confirm that it works? it really shouldn't break anything |
| 08:25.34 | allejo | basically, without that change bz_eGetPlayerSpawnPosEvent would never get the correct response from bz_getPlayerSpawnAtBase() since SpawnPolicy sets it false before the event is called |
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| 13:50.08 | macsforme | allejo: if something like the argument order or return value changes, you will still be able to compile and run plugins that used the old way |
| 13:51.44 | macsforme | not very elegant, but I think that was the reason given |
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| 16:15.48 | allejo | so bz_GetPlayerMottoData_V2 returns a different object since a "record" attribute was added, right? recompiling wouldn't be affected though, no? function signature changes I understand |
| 16:23.54 | the_map | if it matters at all (which I suspect it doesn't), I was able to compile and play after pulling the update |
| 16:32.19 | allejo | did you test the client or bzfs? my change was made to bzfs |
| 16:39.36 | the_map | the client |
| 16:40.19 | allejo | I'd be impressed if a two line change I made to bzfs broke the client |
| 16:40.56 | the_map | hey, it's c++. I wouldn't be surprised :P |
| 16:41.13 | the_map | then again, I'm not sure that my experience is a fair representation of c++ :P |
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| 16:55.05 | Shuist | Who hosts BZAddict? |
| 16:57.59 | allejo | CD, but I maintain it |
| 16:58.11 | allejo | ...for the rest of this month that is |
| 16:58.17 | the_map | who's CD? |
| 16:59.04 | allejo | Cruel Dog |
| 17:01.15 | Shuist | Since when are we unable to talk on them? |
| 17:01.15 | allejo | you're unable to talk? |
| 17:01.16 | allejo | I'll say that's an intended side effect of it being shutdown :) |
| 17:01.16 | allejo | https://forums.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=19207 |
| 17:02.00 | Shuist | Ooooh. |
| 17:02.52 | the_map | Shuist: if you're referring to Coloratus :: R3laX , you can still PM there, fwiw |
| 17:03.04 | the_map | idk about other servers on bzaddict |
| 17:03.41 | Shuist | Ah, you are correct, the_map |
| 17:03.57 | Shuist | No public talking, PMs work fine. |
| 17:04.13 | Shuist | Happens on both BZAddict maps |
| 17:04.30 | the_map | idk if sending to the admin channel works |
| 17:05.13 | Shuist | It does. Admins are able to speak publically |
| 17:05.20 | Shuist | publicly? |
| 17:05.38 | the_map | yeah, the second spelling |
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| 17:07.23 | allejo | it's probably a slip up on my part with the permissions |
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| 17:07.53 | allejo | woah |
| 17:08.23 | Shuist | What was all that? |
| 17:09.14 | allejo | a node probably sneezed |
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| 17:12.23 | the_map | it was your change to bzfs |
| 17:13.36 | allejo | lol |
| 17:13.38 | the_map | I like the timing of it with what you just said about slipping up with the permissions |
| 17:13.59 | the_map | "oops, I just removed a bunch of people" |
| 17:14.07 | allejo | I've moved Coloratus to my own server: bzflag.allejo.io:5132 |
| 17:14.11 | allejo | you should be able to talk fine there |
| 17:14.49 | the_map | nope, unless you mean we should be able to after the server restarts |
| 17:15.09 | allejo | nah, on my server not bzaddict |
| 17:15.40 | allejo | i can't fix bzaddict without a restart, but at that point, it's no different from going to my instance |
| 17:21.02 | allejo | if I make a change to bz_CustomZoneObject in the API, I'm gonna have to make it bz_CustomZoneObject_V2, right? can I just push updates to it? |
| 17:21.08 | allejo | or can* |
| 17:22.04 | blast007 | what kind of change? |
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| 17:24.41 | allejo | add some more variables and functions |
| 17:25.28 | blast007 | then yeah, do a V2 |
| 17:25.55 | blast007 | any time you add new stuff you need to do a new version |
| 17:26.24 | allejo | why is that exactly? |
| 17:26.59 | blast007 | <@JeffM2501> the event classes are versioned |
| 17:27.00 | blast007 | <@JeffM2501> it's so older plugins can be run in newer servers |
| 17:27.00 | blast007 | <@JeffM2501> if we add data, we derive off a new V2 interface with the new data |
| 17:27.00 | blast007 | <@JeffM2501> your old code uses the V1 version, and all works well |
| 17:27.48 | blast007 | mainly useful for closed sourced plugins or for people who just want to throw a binary .so from the forums and run it |
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| 17:59.52 | tupone | anyone want to test jpeg handling on heavy sites (I mean lot of pics to download) ? Only pic without alpha channel can be converted |
| 18:19.33 | blast007 | jpeg handling? |
| 18:20.00 | allejo | ahhh so it is for older binaries to work |
| 18:20.02 | allejo | makes sense |
| 18:20.13 | blast007 | yup |
| 18:20.39 | blast007 | honestly not a huge concern for me, but we're already doing it, so, meh :) |
| 18:23.26 | allejo | meh, just sucks that new versions need to always be introduced |
| 18:23.58 | blast007 | don't worrk, when we rewrite everything in Javascript, we'll just use closures and stuff! |
| 18:24.25 | blast007 | web scale |
| 18:25.12 | allejo | s/worrk/worry |
| 18:35.19 | blast007 | yeah that |
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| 20:50.47 | BZnotify | [13bzflag] 15allejo closed pull request #44: Update banner for 2.4.6 (062.4...062.4) 02https://git.io/vaMmU |
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| 20:57.59 | BZnotify | [13bzflag] 15allejo opened pull request #45: Update banner for 2.4.6 (062.4...06title-246) 02https://git.io/vVtxe |
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| 21:25.29 | blast007 | We probably should have defaulted that 'Auto pause control panel' option to off.... oh well... |
| 21:27.10 | blast007 | actually I might still change that for 2.4.6 |
| 21:27.28 | blast007 | then anyone who has a default setting still will revert back to the old behavior |
| 21:42.09 | kaadmy | anybody want to join Armory? helit.tech |
| 21:42.16 | kaadmy | 5174 |
| 21:49.42 | kaadmy | 9 players ;) |
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