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| 18:09.21 | Flak18 | i'm looking for some help on a plugin |
| 18:09.36 | blast007 | be specific |
| 18:09.36 | Flak18 | i'm trying to combind a couple plugins |
| 18:09.41 | blast007 | why? |
| 18:09.56 | Flak18 | to implement a game mode |
| 18:11.38 | Flak18 | i'm looking on creating last-tank standing - ctf |
| 18:12.10 | Flak18 | and a better implementation of htf |
| 18:12.22 | blast007 | you still haven't asked a question |
| 18:12.37 | blast007 | remember I said "be specific" |
| 18:13.04 | Flak18 | can rabbit hunt be altered so that the rabbit is determined by holding a flag? |
| 18:14.59 | blast007 | doesn't look like there's anything special exposed for rabbit chase servers, so nope |
| 18:15.18 | blast007 | you'd have to add it to the API |
| 18:15.29 | Flak18 | oh ok |
| 18:16.43 | Flak18 | i'm trying to mostly combind the effects of rabbit hunt and keep-away in a plugin |
| 18:17.04 | Flak18 | so that when the rabbit reaches a certain location with the flag |
| 18:17.52 | Flak18 | it would cause the keep away effect to happen |
| 18:19.33 | Flak18 | since if one uses the regular htf plugin tks occur and i'm trying to avoid it |
| 18:20.19 | Flak18 | by using rabbit hunt mode to avoid tks and keep away effect for caps |
| 18:20.19 | blast007 | what does HTF have to do with rabbit chase? |
| 18:20.50 | Flak18 | i'm trying to better implement HTF without having tk occur for rabbit |
| 18:21.05 | blast007 | HTF uses the CTF mode, not rabbit chase |
| 18:22.27 | Flak18 | HTF causes tks for all players and i'm trying to avoid that |
| 18:22.50 | Flak18 | as in rabbit hunt the "hunters" are a team |
| 18:22.52 | blast007 | why is that a real problem? and how are you planning to fix that? |
| 18:23.39 | Flak18 | it's not a real problem, but would be nice to have a couple minor improvements on it |
| 18:24.13 | blast007 | HTF has everyone on the same team |
| 18:24.38 | blast007 | and they capture a team flag, which I don't think rogues can do |
| 18:24.44 | blast007 | so is there a way to fix that? |
| 18:25.18 | Flak18 | is there a way to cause certain actions to occur based on locations and flag being held? |
| 18:25.29 | blast007 | you're capturing your own "team" flag too |
| 18:26.10 | blast007 | yes, there's plenty of examples of that kind of plugin |
| 18:27.26 | Flak18 | the idea is to use certain locations for "team" bases |
| 18:27.38 | Flak18 | and the "rabbit" being the flag holder |
| 18:27.41 | blast007 | right |
| 18:27.47 | Flak18 | if flag is dropped |
| 18:27.54 | blast007 | so what part of that are you having trouble with? |
| 18:28.32 | Flak18 | mostly on how to create actions based on the location and flag |
| 18:28.38 | blast007 | what code do you have so far? |
| 18:29.57 | Flak18 | not any code as i'm trying to see what will work or not |
| 18:30.08 | Flak18 | so i'm asking for advice here |
| 18:30.40 | blast007 | and my advice is to look at our bundled plugins |
| 18:30.50 | blast007 | there's plenty of examples of custom zones |
| 18:30.50 | Flak18 | ok |
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| 19:05.17 | allejo | there's even a plugin called, "CustomZoneSample" |
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| 20:32.53 | Flak18 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.02 | blast007 | why? |
| 20:33.18 | Flak18 | there's some outdated information there |
| 20:33.56 | blast007 | like what? |
| 20:34.26 | Flak18 | webadmin |
| 20:34.54 | Flak18 | mapchange and some others |
| 20:34.58 | blast007 | how is that not accurate? |
| 20:35.12 | blast007 | it is a plugin in 2.99.x |
| 20:35.48 | Flak18 | it says it's included in v.3 and later releases |
| 20:36.21 | blast007 | you're saying it's *not* included in 3.0 and later releases? |
| 20:36.37 | blast007 | it's included with every 3.0 and later release so far |
| 20:36.47 | Flak18 | it currently doesn't appear to be developed right now |
| 20:37.30 | blast007 | neither is 2.99.x, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist |
| 20:37.47 | blast007 | https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag/tree/2.99/plugins/webadmin |
| 20:38.18 | Flak18 | most of the improvements i intend to make are minor |
| 20:39.12 | blast007 | what would be really great is for someone starting to create an outline for a proper set of end-user documentation for BZFlag |
| 20:39.27 | blast007 | I want the wiki to go away and be replaced with real documentation |
| 20:40.01 | blast007 | though I suppose it depends if we intend to continue with our current codebase or start over with something else |
| 20:41.11 | Flak18 | i'm thinking some minor improvements on the wiki would be good until then |
| 20:45.25 | Notify | 03BZFlag:Blast * 0 /User:Flak_18: |
| 20:54.17 | Notify | 03BZFlag:Flak 18 * 8955 /Webadmin: changed wording to past tense |
| 20:56.48 | blast007 | it still *is* included in 2.99.x |
| 20:59.27 | Notify | 03BZFlag:Flak 18 * 8956 /Webadmin: fixed wording |
| 21:17.32 | Notify | 03BZFlag:Flak 18 * 8957 /Category:Leagues: updated league info |
| 21:19.06 | Notify | 03BZFlag:Flak 18 * 8958 /Category:Leagues: fixed typos |
| 21:19.45 | Notify | 03BZFlag:Blast * 8959 /Webadmin: |
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| 23:23.53 | KaadmY | how would i make the client completely incompatible with bzflag servers? |
| 23:24.23 | KaadmY | trying to write a cheat client to play with a friend(to see who can write the best cheats), and i want to make it incompatible as possible to anything public |
| 23:32.06 | macsforme | https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag/blob/2.4/src/date/buildDate.cxx#L108 |
| 23:32.23 | macsforme | change "BZFS" to some other four-letter string |
| 23:32.30 | KaadmY | okay |
| 23:32.31 | DTRemenak | change the protocol string. probably has to stay alpha |
| 23:32.40 | DTRemenak | yeah, what he said ;) |
| 23:33.23 | KaadmY | in include/version.h, i already changed "BZ_CONFIG_DIR_VERSION" to "2.4-CHEATS", config to "config-cheats.cfg", and BZ_CONNECT_HEADER to "BZCHET****" |
| 23:34.12 | KaadmY | okey |
| 23:34.15 | KaadmY | changed that too |
| 23:34.19 | KaadmY | after compile |
| 23:34.31 | KaadmY | any way to disable the server list |
| 23:35.07 | DTRemenak | that one protocol string determines compatibility. the list will only list servers with the same protocol string, and you can only connect to servers with the same one. |
| 23:35.21 | KaadmY | ah |
| 23:35.28 | KaadmY | i changed all the versions in other places too |
| 23:35.37 | DTRemenak | it is both necessary and sufficient to change the protocol string. everything else is immaterial :) |
| 23:35.39 | KaadmY | and put text on the menu header to say "CHEAT" |
| 23:36.10 | blast007 | you don't need to change the config filename, just the directory |
| 23:36.27 | KaadmY | blast007: changed both for good measure |
| 23:37.01 | KaadmY | what about the MOTD? |
| 23:37.05 | KaadmY | i could disable that too |
| 23:37.17 | blast007 | that doesn't matter |
| 23:38.06 | KaadmY | good, server list doesn't work anymore |
| 23:38.19 | KaadmY | good |
| 23:38.25 | KaadmY | can't connect either, bad version |
| 23:38.37 | blast007 | note that you will still need to have a public key to host a server |
| 23:39.01 | KaadmY | nah |
| 23:39.04 | KaadmY | private stuff only |
| 23:39.20 | KaadmY | don't want/need to make public servers anyway |
| 23:39.25 | blast007 | I should probably relax that requirement for protocols that don't start with 'BZFS' |
| 23:40.26 | DTRemenak | meh...it's a point of contact for a service provided. I don't see a problem with still requiring keys for other protocols. |
| 23:41.39 | DTRemenak | it's not like you can't run your own authoritative list server for a different protocol if you don't feel like registering. |
| 23:41.53 | blast007 | well, they can't create their own keys anymore |