| 00:23.13 | BulletCatcher | One of the ways BZFlag distinguishes itself from other games is that it still runs on older systems. |
| 00:23.14 | BulletCatcher | In this case it isn't a big deal to use the older syntax, so I think we ought to be able preserve GCC 4.4 support for now. |
| 00:30.09 | blast007 | should we keep GCC 4.4 support throughout our 2.4 branch? |
| 00:32.08 | BulletCatcher | I don't think we need to make that decision now, especially since 2.4 may be around for a long time. :-) |
| 00:32.58 | macsforme | the changes for 2.4.10 are relatively minimal, so it makes sense to keep the same requirements... if more significant work is done, even in 2.4, that may change |
| 00:33.21 | BulletCatcher | I'd be willing to have c++11 be the minimum if we had a better reason than preserving 2 lines of code. |
| 00:40.24 | blast007 | it's 2 lines this time |
| 00:40.35 | blast007 | we've changed things before that also broke old gcc versions |
| 00:42.00 | BulletCatcher | I'm trying not to draw a line. |
| 00:42.01 | BulletCatcher | I assume that we'll just know when it is time to move forward. |
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| 02:57.31 | blast007 | hmm, Notify didn't pop in. I pushed the change to make it build on old GCC again |
| 02:58.24 | short_circuit | o_o |
| 03:02.42 | short_circuit | Good point BC. Got me thinking |
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| 13:09.09 | blast007 | macsforme: had any luck with the joystick fix? |
| 13:20.20 | blast007 | so my rough plan for things: get new site done (or at least good enough), get 2.4.10 out, get sites moved to new infrastructure. Then once that's all testing and working well, I'm considering taking out some ad space on one or more web comics and similar sites and see what that ends up doing. |
| 13:21.45 | blast007 | but I'd need someone to help with making the ad banners/buttons as I'm definitely not a graphic designer :P |
| 14:12.30 | macsforme | blast007: no, I gave up for now |
| 14:13.32 | macsforme | I think there would have to be a joystick configuration helper to test the range and give some visual feedback in order to do it right |
| 14:14.20 | blast007 | okay. perhaps something that could be part of a UI revamp |
| 14:15.04 | blast007 | MyGUI is working checking out for 2.6: http://mygui.info/ |
| 14:16.42 | blast007 | MyGUI is already packaged in Debian, so that would ease the switch |
| 14:17.42 | blast007 | and seems to have the kind of widgets we currently use, short of maybe a slider (which ours is just a combo box we populate with ASCII sliders) |
| 14:17.46 | blast007 | http://www.ogre3d.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=MyGUI+Widgets |
| 14:48.24 | blast007 | if I can get it to build, that is |
| 16:58.05 | JeffM | blast007: does it have a text label? not just a text box? |
| 16:58.30 | JeffM | you'll need that to put text in random places since you'll only want one font system for menus and hud |
| 17:03.24 | blast007 | looks like they use edit boxes with a caption in their demos, which puts the caption text inside of the area |
| 17:03.31 | blast007 | (and makes it read-only) |
| 17:23.44 | JeffM | there is probalby a way to make it work |
| 17:23.58 | JeffM | just something to think about |
| 17:24.37 | JeffM | can it render to a texture? |
| 17:24.45 | JeffM | or draw in other transforms? |
| 17:24.52 | JeffM | 3d radar would be cool :) |
| 17:25.11 | blast007 | they have a render to texture sample |
| 17:26.01 | blast007 | even one where you can drag the window around, resize it, and rotate the model inside |
| 17:26.02 | JeffM | it'd be cool to tilt the radar "into" the screen, http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/715285422649235631/660E5EEBC1CCF04CC1E79A4138DC228BDD960E5B/ |
| 17:26.58 | blast007 | http://mygui.info/images/screenshots_3.2.1/Demo9.png |
| 17:27.03 | blast007 | http://mygui.info/images/screenshots_3.2.1/Demo5.png |
| 17:27.16 | JeffM | cool, tha'td be totaly possible then |
| 17:27.58 | blast007 | and the only dependency is freetype, so it's far less of a dependency hell compared to CEGUI |
| 17:28.05 | JeffM | sure |
| 17:28.17 | JeffM | was never impressed with CEGUI |
| 17:30.13 | blast007 | "The library supports plugins that allows you to create dynamically loaded custom controls or subsystems. Most subsystems are expandable with plugins without the need to touch the core code." |
| 17:30.40 | JeffM | oh cool, so you should be able to make a "radar" custom controll |
| 17:30.44 | JeffM | and just postion that wherever you want |
| 17:30.52 | JeffM | using sub controols |
| 17:31.11 | JeffM | that would get you a lot of consistency and modularity |
| 17:33.39 | blast007 | we might need to do something custom to handle the list filter coloring, unless we decide to remove that and replace it with some filter controls |
| 17:34.21 | blast007 | might need something special for the server list itself as well |
| 17:34.35 | JeffM | sure, I could see custom stuff for the scoreboard too |
| 17:34.47 | JeffM | at least you have that option and that's good |
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