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| 00:22.40 | guest4693 | hi, I am alpha1, I am going to do a test because either web chat app is failing or infobot. |
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| 00:23.46 | Zehra | wonders if this is the real alpha1 |
| 00:24.31 | spldart | None of that please :) |
| 00:24.58 | blast007 | that was pretty pointless.. |
| 00:25.21 | blast007 | you could just have just counted the characters from the previous message that got cut off instead of spamming numbers to the chat |
| 00:25.32 | blast007 | or even messaged yourself, or joined an empty channel |
| 00:25.48 | allejo | pointless much like everything in this channel |
| 00:25.52 | guest4693 | I need still infobot to save it |
| 00:26.05 | guest4693 | or record it |
| 00:26.27 | Zehra | i think alpha1 might be referring to webchat not saving logs for him |
| 00:26.46 | Zehra | and i think he's relying on infobot for logs |
| 00:27.22 | blast007 | no, he referring to overly long messages, which has NOTHING to do with ibot. the IRC daemon has the limit. |
| 00:27.52 | Zehra | oh ok |
| 00:29.42 | BulletCatcher | The limit appears to be 434 characters. |
| 00:30.42 | guest4693 | well, in the web app, the limit is 470, and also it is shown to me 470 in my browser after I send it; pretty weird |
| 00:31.16 | blast007 | no, that's not weird |
| 00:31.39 | blast007 | your own client doesn't receive it's own messages, so it just displays the message you're sending as-is |
| 00:32.14 | BulletCatcher | *My* client only shows what I receive. |
| 00:32.34 | guest4693 | ah, then it is a web app bug blast007? |
| 00:32.43 | blast007 | so you can't see your own messages, BulletCatcher? |
| 00:33.46 | BulletCatcher | I haven't run tcpdump on IRC sessions in a while. Am I wrong that it sends my messages back to me? |
| 00:34.06 | blast007 | as far as I know you do not receive your own messages |
| 00:34.25 | blast007 | which is why the order of messages can be slightly off when it involves your own messages |
| 00:34.39 | blast007 | when I /msg myself, I also see the message twice :) |
| 00:35.37 | BulletCatcher | Okay. I see PMs to myself twice too. |
| 00:36.00 | spldart | Does this not circle back around to "can be tested elsewhere?" Excuse me if i have overstepped :( |
| 00:36.52 | BulletCatcher | It can and should definitely be tested somewhere else. |
| 00:37.23 | blast007 | guest4693: the limit of the spec is 510 characters (512 counting the trailing CR-LF) that includes the command and parameters. |
| 00:37.31 | blast007 | http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/irc.htm |
| 00:37.33 | spldart | *nods* |
| 00:37.50 | spldart | *respectfully* |
| 00:38.55 | BulletCatcher | An easy way to avoid reaching the limit is to hit return at the end of every sentence. |
| 00:39.46 | blast007 | or you could do it |
| 00:39.53 | blast007 | after every few |
| 00:39.54 | blast007 | words |
| 00:40.11 | spldart | ;~) |
| 00:41.11 | blast007 | I actually added a script to my irssi that kinda fixes it for me, but tends to split lines up weirdly sometimes |
| 00:41.27 | BulletCatcher | I also recommend proper punctuation, capitalization, and spelling but don't expect much improvement in that. ;-) |
| 00:41.35 | guest4693 | well, then the web app (which comes from freenode, I know) has a bug: it allows 470 but it is cut off at 433 |
| 00:42.00 | blast007 | no, it does not |
| 00:42.21 | blast007 | it doesn't come from freenode, and it isn't a bug |
| 00:42.53 | guest4693 | may I ask why you are saying that? |
| 00:42.56 | blast007 | a limititation of the protocol, maybe |
| 00:44.32 | blast007 | read about the IRC protocol. there isn't a fixed limit to the message part of a privmsg |
| 00:45.00 | blast007 | there's a limit to the overall line of text that is sent to the server, which includes the command and parameters |
| 00:45.33 | blast007 | and the parameters for privmsg contain the channel or name, which will vary in length |
| 00:46.44 | guest4693 | ok, thanks for the recommendations, I will be more careful then about limits. My desktop app, BTW, which is much more complete OFC, allows sending extra lines to next sendings automatically |
| 00:47.44 | guest4693 | (and I remember also the 3 lines limit of this channel :) |
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| 23:48.22 | JeffM | awww yeah, speed tests show 154 down, 127 up :) |