| 00:01.48 | JeffM | why are zones sent to the client? |
| 00:04.01 | JeffM | yay... map transmission now works. |
| 00:04.58 | blast007 | zones are sent just for /saveworld |
| 00:07.55 | JeffM | hmmm /saveworld should just re-request the text file. |
| 00:17.34 | JeffM | HAH, I was wondering why it would always reject my client connection |
| 00:17.45 | JeffM | forgot I had the flag to allow only registered set to true |
| 00:43.48 | JeffM | yay... https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/mQhg67eA/image.png |
| 00:47.32 | JeffM | now i need to decide if I send them to a staging area where they get bzdb, players, flags, etc before being allowed into the actual game thread. |
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| 18:30.31 | JeffM | what is the epxected bechavor if you have one bzdb var _var1 = 1.0 * _var2 and _var2 is set to "STEVE" ? |
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| 18:42.33 | blast007 | what user are you trying to run it as? your normal non-root user? |
| 18:43.22 | blast007 | eightfold_: you can check the output of 'dpkg-query -L bzflag-server' to see where bzfs is located. might be in /usr/games/bin, which may not be in your path. |
| 18:46.11 | blast007 | eightfold_: also, most server operators get the latest code from our Git and build the server themselves. If it's just for a local servers, the one packaged with Lubuntu is gonna be fine though. |
| 18:46.36 | eightfold_ | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c6c9b6e52eedb08999ed104374803d9d |
| 18:46.41 | eightfold_ | blast007: |
| 18:47.36 | eightfold_ | i'm a non root user |
| 18:47.57 | eightfold_ | just want to run local, lan fun |
| 18:48.56 | blast007 | does 'echo $PATH' show /usr/games ? |
| 18:51.25 | blast007 | (unrelated to your error, but it's also possible that a bzfs instance is already running, more likely if you're using systemd, since there is an init script and service file) |
| 19:59.43 | JeffM | Is there any advantage to sending bzdb vars that are math to the client as math? It seems simpler to just resolve them on the server and send the final values. |
| 20:02.21 | eightfold_ | yes, it shows /usr/games |
| 20:02.47 | eightfold_ | blast007: i ran killall bzfs |
| 20:02.51 | blast007 | eightfold_: does '/usr/games/bzfs -help' print out the usage information? |
| 20:03.43 | eightfold_ | blast007: yup |
| 20:04.00 | blast007 | hrm, then I'm not sure why just 'bzfs' doesn't work |
| 20:04.46 | blast007 | does 'which bzfs' output anything? |
| 20:05.03 | JeffM | Are server and client different packages on that system? |
| 20:05.15 | blast007 | they installed bzflag-server |
| 20:05.31 | JeffM | One would think that would do it then |
| 20:07.10 | blast007 | JeffM: the output of /set and /diff shows the string equivilent |
| 20:07.47 | JeffM | Is /diff processed by the client? |
| 20:08.05 | blast007 | yes, as well as /set when it's not setting a value |
| 20:08.23 | eightfold_ | yup, /usr/games/bzfs |
| 20:08.25 | JeffM | And the advantages of this are? |
| 20:08.34 | blast007 | eightfold_: then just 'bzfs' should work |
| 20:09.27 | blast007 | perhaps you had some extra (invisible) character around the bzfs when you tried the first time |
| 20:09.49 | JeffM | Ghooosssssttttt carrreeettt |
| 20:10.18 | blast007 | JeffM: the advantage of handling that on the client? because it makes it all colorful and stuff? :) |
| 20:10.27 | eightfold_ | argh, i ran /usr/games/bzfs instead and it works! |
| 20:10.32 | eightfold_ | thanks thanks |
| 20:10.40 | blast007 | you should be able to run 'bzfs' |
| 20:10.47 | JeffM | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.11 | JeffM | Well Iâll keep the text value around anyway, just for transmission |
| 20:11.24 | blast007 | why not? you'd rather the server have to send a list of everything that is set to non defaults along with their defaults? |
| 20:12.00 | JeffM | Well Iâd rather have admin of that happen out of band with the game :) |
| 20:12.09 | eightfold_ | no sleepytime |
| 20:12.13 | eightfold_ | thanks again |
| 20:12.25 | blast007 | both client and server have the same information |
| 20:12.37 | JeffM | But I understand now, thanks |
| 20:13.08 | blast007 | I'd be fine with eliminating most of the BZDB vars though ;) |
| 20:13.21 | JeffM | Iâm just going to assume that 1.0 / _steve is 0 |
| 20:13.47 | JeffM | Yeah Iâm trying to minimize the set of data sent to the client |
| 20:14.01 | JeffM | Yet keep it functional |
| 20:14.22 | blast007 | at least with the current implmenetation, client needs to know all the BZDB vars anyway |
| 20:14.44 | JeffM | All the ones that it reads |
| 20:15.05 | JeffM | Some plugins are storing vars in there to allow them to be set |
| 20:15.37 | blast007 | I suppose |
| 20:15.59 | blast007 | that I'd like to change in 2.5 as well :) |
| 20:16.04 | JeffM | Sure |
| 20:16.11 | blast007 | proper dialogs, generated by the server |
| 20:16.31 | JeffM | Itâs all just data |
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