| 00:03.22 | macsforme | you win a prize |
| 00:03.39 | The_Noah | i mean the client BZDB variables |
| 00:04.27 | blast007 | delete your config - bam, reset :) |
| 00:04.29 | The_Noah | (they should really be named 2 different things) |
| 00:04.32 | The_Noah | okay |
| 00:04.45 | blast007 | (or just delete the line in the config for whatever you want reset) |
| 00:05.18 | The_Noah | Thank You |
| 00:06.21 | macsforme | allejo: how about a GoFundMe? $5k should buy one for each of us that is suitable for... uh... testing |
| 00:06.22 | The_Noah | NUI is almost done |
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| 00:25.18 | Delusional | Iâll never forget the time my seventh grade english teacher s l o w l y fell asleep while standing at the podium, and holding a pencilâ¦. they had to call an ambulance and he ended up wearing an eye patch for six months. |
| 00:34.35 | allejo | macsforme: honestly, I'd be interested in seeing how far we get :p |
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| 00:51.23 | The_Noah | im sure this is a stupid question, but is there a way to load multiple config.cfgs?? so like config.cfg & otherconfig.cfg, but the format is the same and they both use BZDB? (for the client) im sure someone will say "look through the code" but before i try to write my own system, i want to know weather or not this will work to save me a lot of time |
| 00:54.18 | Delusional | bzw has the âincludeâ statement⦠doubt thereâs anything similar for .cfg |
| 00:55.33 | Delusional | easy to simply have multiple cfg files and rename them when needed |
| 00:56.09 | The_Noah | its for a new feture im making, and that wouldnt work |
| 00:56.22 | The_Noah | and i want them to be loaded at the same time |
| 01:01.21 | blast007 | The_Noah: you want the same client to load and merge multiple configs? |
| 01:01.48 | blast007 | if so, why? |
| 01:01.51 | The_Noah | yes |
| 01:01.55 | The_Noah | for loading the UI |
| 01:08.53 | blast007 | why does loading the UI need a separate config file? |
| 01:09.12 | The_Noah | so then people can easily share layouts |
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| 03:30.54 | allejo | bumping https://github.com/BZFlag-Dev/bzflag/issues/94 |
| 03:31.11 | allejo | is there anything that *we* need to do or can it be closed? |
| 03:37.19 | allejo | since if I recall correctly, there hasn't been a decision/no one knows what to do with it... I asked in the issue. hopefully the gentoo folk will know :p |
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| 07:02.43 | tupone | JeffM: -O0 -g ( I was debuggin something else on the system and I forget to put the option back |
| 12:22.20 | the-map | ...like the right parenthesis? :p |
| 12:23.12 | blast007 | ) |
| 12:23.24 | blast007 | look, I caught a wild the-map! |
| 12:25.01 | the-map | that reference went over my head, which I guess means you missed? |
| 12:26.47 | blast007 | that just means I have to damage you more first |
| 15:00.05 | allejo | lol |
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| 17:41.29 | JeffM | tupone: so you were running with a video driver built in debug mode? that'll do it. |
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| 19:52.28 | tupone | JeffM: still is taking too much time ... about 35 msec for a glCallList (sometime) |
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| 20:15.30 | tupone | allejo: I'm familiar with gentoo. Here it is building fine. Need to know which version of SDL2 and the use flags for that |
| 20:21.31 | blast007 | tupone: so essentially there should not be anything we need to change on our end and issue #94 can be closed? |
| 20:36.52 | JeffM | cracks open the rendering code to see what can cause slowdowns in drivers |
| 20:38.16 | blast007 | legacy OpenGL 1.x codepaths in modern drivers :) |
| 20:38.24 | JeffM | yeah |
| 20:38.29 | JeffM | specialy open source ones |
| 20:42.18 | JeffM | tupone: I'd need to know what settings you have, like tank style and stuch. are you drawing the wheels and animated treads and such? |
| 20:42.40 | tupone | JeffM: no animation |
| 20:42.43 | JeffM | ok good |
| 20:42.57 | tupone | maybe puff or something |
| 20:43.06 | tupone | shadow |
| 20:43.09 | JeffM | and what kind of shaddows do you have? |
| 20:43.17 | JeffM | there shoudl be 3 options for shaodws IIRC |
| 20:43.24 | JeffM | regular or stencil |
| 20:43.31 | blast007 | off/stencil/stipple |
| 20:43.35 | tupone | stencil |
| 20:43.46 | JeffM | does anythign change if you change to off? |
| 20:43.56 | JeffM | or stipple? |
| 20:43.56 | tupone | no |
| 20:44.18 | tupone | does not change anything |
| 20:45.44 | JeffM | all that render code is pretty basic |
| 20:46.08 | JeffM | it changes shade modes, but that's about it |
| 20:48.01 | JeffM | you could maybe try to add an early return to renderLights in TankSceenNode |
| 20:48.13 | JeffM | that tries to draw GL points and some old implemntations may not like that |
| 20:48.59 | JeffM | and maybe the same for renderJumpJets, it does bilboards, but then shots would also have slowdowns. |
| 20:49.06 | tupone | it looks like it is stopping doing swap of memory or compiling code |
| 20:49.48 | JeffM | onboard video does use system ram IIRC, you may want to check and see how much your bios allocates to it |
| 20:50.29 | JeffM | it could be trying to flush the 'card' buffer into the system shadow area |
| 20:50.40 | JeffM | somthing onboard graphics should not have to do |
| 20:50.41 | tupone | onboard is HD -4600 |
| 20:50.57 | JeffM | is there a setting in the bios that says how much system ram is allocated to the graphics? |
| 20:51.10 | tupone | Not that I remember |
| 20:52.33 | JeffM | it may be a driver setting |
| 20:53.04 | blast007 | the BIOS may also only set a hard reserved value while the GPU might be able to dynamically allocate more |
| 20:53.11 | JeffM | yeah |
| 20:53.25 | JeffM | the HD Graphics are dymic, but there may be a cap set somewhere |
| 20:53.34 | JeffM | not sure how that's handled in linux |
| 20:53.49 | tupone | 2 Gbyte is the maximum (from the i5 specs) |
| 20:54.24 | JeffM | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/axrAlFU4/ |
| 20:54.34 | blast007 | the 4600 can use up to ~1.7GB (on Windows 7) |
| 20:54.36 | JeffM | that is some info I found. |
| 20:55.11 | blast007 | https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005472/graphics-drivers.html |
| 20:56.06 | JeffM | it's possible the default is set very low and the linux driver is failing to allocate more correctly so it's swaping out |
| 20:56.13 | JeffM | as it tries to dynamicaly grow |
| 21:02.40 | tupone | http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B85M-HDS/ |
| 21:03.11 | JeffM | go see if the bios has any settings, it can't hurt |
| 21:04.20 | blast007 | Chipset Configuration > Share Memory > "Configure the size of memory that is allocated to the integrated graphics processor when the system boots up." |
| 21:04.41 | JeffM | how much ram is in the system? |
| 21:05.41 | blast007 | there's also a "Render Standby" option that powers down the render unit when the GPU is idle - might try turing that off if it's enabled |
| 21:10.02 | tupone | It was auto. I have put 256 M |
| 21:10.10 | tupone | it is enough ? |
| 21:10.44 | tupone | I have 8G |
| 21:11.27 | tupone | :/ I have only one PC. To go to BIOS and talk is little complicated |
| 21:13.10 | JeffM | if you have 8 gig, I'd do 512 |
| 21:25.38 | tupone | no change. frame max is 220 msec |
| 22:30.26 | JeffM | then I am out of ideas |
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