IRC log for #bzflag on 20180611

01:15.30Juestoyes, better settings presentation and availability
01:16.32AndraditeWould 2.6 have full screen radar, since we had it in 2.x?
01:22.53Juestosure
01:23.03Juestoperhaps*
01:35.57JeffMProbably not unless it’s on its own screen
01:36.34JeffMBzflag is a 3d game and covering the 3d view with radar makes it more of a 2d game
01:36.53JeffMWe turned off full screen radar for a reason
07:11.09Juestomulti monitor mode definitely, console and radar on one screen
07:12.00Juestoor up to user choice to have a fullscreen radar and the console in the main screen
07:12.13Juestoor viceversa
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11:24.21BZnotify[bzflag] blast007 pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vhajo
11:24.21BZnotifybzflag/master 553d42c Scott Wichser: Fixed(?) a copy/paste error.
11:24.21BZnotifybzflag/master 35e0a01 Scott Wichser: Fix various warnings (signed/unsigned comparisions, shadowed/unused variables) and add ShotList.h/cxx to the Linux build.
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15:53.23JeffMyay no rebase conflicts.
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17:00.56blast007hello TimRiker
17:18.21JeffMright then.....
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17:22.25BZnotify[13bzflag] 15JeffM2501 opened pull request #154: Extended shot api (062.4...06extended_shot_API) 02https://git.io/vhVMs
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17:22.34JeffMcrap, that was for the wrong branch.
17:22.37JeffMI'll delete it.
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17:22.53BZnotify[13bzflag] 15JeffM2501 opened pull request #155: Extended shot api (06master...06extended_shot_API) 02https://git.io/vhVMW
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17:23.03BZnotify[13bzflag] 15JeffM2501 pushed 4 new commits to 06master: 02https://git.io/vhVMl
17:23.03BZnotify13bzflag/06master 14dbeab61 15JeffM2501: extend shot APIs to include position and velocity data...
17:23.03BZnotify13bzflag/06master 1469e4763 15JeffM2501: extend shot APIs to include position and velocity data...
17:23.03BZnotify13bzflag/06master 14f4d8897 15Jeffery Myers: Merge branch 'extended_shot_API' of github.com:JeffM2501/BZFlag into extended_shot_API
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17:23.40BZnotify[13bzflag] 15JeffM2501 closed pull request #154: Extended shot api (062.4...06extended_shot_API) 02https://git.io/vhVMs
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17:24.57JeffMDelusional I would like to get a list of all the plugins that mofo runs, and see how they work. I want to make sure the API supports them as best as possible  for 2.6 with no hacks or chezzy things.
17:30.14JeffMallejo: any you have done as well
17:30.31JeffMSpecifically if it uses non api functions
17:38.34JeffMwhat should the max limit on shots per flag be? 64k ok?
17:39.21blast007yeah
17:41.31JeffM0 will mean unlimited
17:46.40blast007will that complicate the "how many shots are left" logic?
17:47.13JeffMno, because the client is going to auto drop the flag when it thinkks it's 0
17:47.34JeffMwell when it goes from 1 to 0
17:47.42JeffMit's the transition that triggers all that
17:47.45blast007k
17:47.51JeffMand the 0 check is early in
17:48.04JeffMif 0 doesn't work 0xFFFF can be unlimited.
17:50.15JeffMstep 1 is sending the shot limit with the flag gab
17:50.28JeffMand moving the shot limit message to the client
17:50.33JeffMthe actual text message
17:50.58JeffMthen it's adding a message to set the shot limit to something else, and that needed the global shot ID.
17:54.10JeffMwhen do shot limits get reset? when the flag is respanwed? when the next player picks it up? is it per flag or per person?
17:56.32JeffMit seems to be per flag, is that the intent?
17:57.52JeffMif it's per flag, then maybe there is no need for a message to update the shot count.
18:16.51blast007I'm thinking that flags with shot limits get zapped when you drop them
18:16.59JeffMyeah they get recycled.
18:17.08JeffMif the limit is 0
18:17.24JeffMso if there is a flag with 10 shots, I shoot 5, drop it, you can shoot 5 then it'll be zapped
18:17.52blast007is that how it is in 2.4, or is that how you've done it so far for 2.6?
18:18.52JeffMthat's how it was in 2.4
18:18.57JeffMand I'm keeping it that way
18:19.17JeffMeverytime the flag is granted (the new message I added), the current limit is sent with it
18:19.28JeffMand the client counts it down as it shoots.
18:19.29blast007bool limited = clOptions->flagLimit[drpFlag.flag.type] != -1;
18:19.33blast007if (limited && drpFlag.numShots > 0) drpFlag.grabs = 0;
18:19.34JeffMyeah
18:19.36JeffMthat' stuff
18:19.43JeffMthat's the recycle code
18:19.48blast007(missed the comment at the start) // limited flags that have been fired should be disposed of
18:19.56blast007so it shouldn't let the next person fire 5 shots
18:19.59JeffMahh ok
18:20.00blast007the flag should respawn
18:20.06JeffMthen it'll keep doing that
18:20.16JeffMI just check the current data on grab and send it
18:20.24JeffMit's mostly moving the end user message to the client.
18:20.39JeffMand preventing the client from shooting when it's out of shots
18:21.19JeffMI can revisit flag recycling when I make the flag list dynamic.
18:21.21blast007finally, an end to zero velocity bullets from shot limited SW flags ;)
18:21.31JeffMthat's the plan
18:21.49JeffMI do still have the server doing the drop, for security reasons.
18:22.18blast007the reason for respawning the flag was so that someone couldn't just drop the flag and grab it again and get the full shot limit again
18:22.35JeffMsure, I could understand not wanting THAT
18:22.39blast007and it also wouldn't be fun to grab a flag and only have one shot left on it after someone else used it :)
18:22.58JeffMmaybe flags need health bars :)
18:23.02blast007heh
18:23.09JeffMone GM at the right time may be just what you need
18:26.49JeffMthe only reall diff in play with this change is that you get the limit text message on flag pickup, NOT the first shot.
18:27.01JeffMand I think that's better for the player anyway
18:27.14blast007yep
18:27.31blast007especially if it's a one-shot flag :)
18:27.38JeffMyeah
18:31.25JeffMok, so what about a transfer?
18:31.42JeffMif I steal your GM with 3 shots left, should I get 3 shots?
18:31.53blast007probably
18:32.05JeffMI think so as well
18:41.12JeffMYou will get told the limits of the flag you stole on stealing it then
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18:58.24JeffMThere is also a limit counter on the client, so a the hud  could show it.
19:26.51JeffMblast007: do you want to kick players that fire more shots than allowed?
19:27.33blast007heh.. shadow ban them and just send *none* of their shots to remote players
19:27.45blast007but yeah, just kick 'em
19:27.54JeffMthe old code didn't do anything because of lag it could be a false positive
19:28.10JeffMbut now with the limit sent, it should not happen in a real case.
19:28.27JeffMthe opposite could happen with packet loss
19:28.27blast007is there going to be a 'reload' message?  that'd be the one situation that could break that assumption
19:28.39JeffMI do not have a reload message at this time
19:28.46JeffMif I did, it'd also set the server side data too
19:28.53blast007okay, and I personally don't see the need for one
19:28.58JeffMyeah
19:29.05JeffMjust remake the flag :)
19:29.13JeffMgive them a new reloaded flag with a new ID
19:29.42JeffMit could be possible for the client to think it's fired all it's shots, but the server didn't see one.
19:29.55JeffMin that case a legit client will not shoot untill it's dropped.
19:31.20JeffMbut the client will totally be told they are out of shots... so it should not be a suprise
19:57.38JeffM+f SB[10] -sl SB 3
19:57.46JeffMthat shoudl give me 10 sb flags with 3 shots each right?
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20:12.28BZnotify[13bzflag] 15JeffM2501 opened pull request #156: Send Shot Limits  to client (06master...06shot_limits) 02https://git.io/vhwvi
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20:12.42BZnotify[13bzflag] 15JeffM2501 closed pull request #156: Send Shot Limits  to client (06master...06shot_limits) 02https://git.io/vhwvi
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20:33.43blast007yes
20:33.57JeffMHmm. Notify missed some stuff
20:34.05JeffMI fixed the gm issue too
20:34.16JeffMBoth client and server side
20:35.28JeffMI’m I’m going to do some work on custom flags, then I should be able to work on server side players driving and shooting
20:35.56blast007I'm gonna try to get a couple auto-updating 2.5 servers running
20:35.57JeffMAnd when they can shoot GMs that means server can go all gm logic
20:36.29blast007need to figure out how to check when there are new changes that have been pushed
20:37.28JeffMHow do ci systems do it?
20:37.51blast007webhooks
20:38.52JeffMJenkins is an open source ci system, but you need to run Java
20:39.58blast007still better than Ruby
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22:20.26JeffMoh man, the flag "negotiation" is so sad
22:20.35JeffMall it does is list the flags the client doesn't support....
22:44.36JeffMenum class is ok in 2.6 right?
22:51.09JeffMand I'm removing genocide as a flag
22:52.45BulletCatcherPlease leave the geno flag in until a geno flag plugin is included.
22:52.56JeffMI will include the geno flag plugin as part of my PR
22:53.06BulletCatcherPerfect.
22:53.15JeffMthis one is big enough to be a PR :)
22:53.45JeffMgetting rid of some fixed size arrays and raw pointers too, making flags and flag instances be shared_ptrs
22:54.20JeffMthe geno flag plugin will make you prove that you are evil enough to run the plugin, you have to shoot a bunny
22:55.38BulletCatcherIn a game with rabbit-hunt mode I don't think that will be much of an obstacle.
22:55.46JeffMok, a baby otter
22:55.50JeffMthey hold hands!!!!
22:59.30JeffMI could be extra evil and include GenocideGM as a example :)
23:02.09JeffMoh thank the maker, I can finaly get rid of Flag::fakePack
23:09.07blast007make it paid DLC :P
23:09.38JeffMI'll ship the pluign but it will all be in an encoded blob, and you can't use it with out a decryption key
23:10.36JeffMI'm also renaming flag to FlagInstance , so it's not to be confused with FlagType
23:11.06JeffMand consolodating the various static methods in FlagType and Flag into FlagFactory
23:12.15JeffMdo you want to enterain flag abreviations over 2 characters?
23:12.38JeffMbecause I'm currently pondering just giving each type an ID
23:12.49JeffMthats sent as part of flag defintion
23:42.38JeffMIt’s a joke

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