| 00:00.28 | blast007 | glxinfo | grep -i 'opengl renderer' gives me OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset |
| 00:02.52 | blast007 | what linux distribution/version are you running? |
| 00:03.25 | War_Pig | Mint, latest |
| 00:04.33 | blast007 | which one? there's three variants of the main one, plus a debian edition |
| 00:05.19 | War_Pig | glxinfo says: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset x86/MMX/SSE2 |
| 00:06.37 | War_Pig | Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia... |
| 00:09.49 | blast007 | what desktop environment? |
| 00:10.41 | blast007 | 18.3 comes in either Cinnamon, KDE, MATE, or Xfce |
| 00:11.03 | blast007 | (19.1 is the latest Mint, btw) |
| 00:35.16 | War_Pig | I think this is Xfce. Do you know how I can tell? |
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| 00:41.25 | War_Pig | blast007: sorry, crashed |
| 00:41.35 | blast007 | aptitude search ~i~nxfce |
| 00:42.19 | War_Pig | returns nothing |
| 00:42.38 | blast007 | try with cinnamon instead of xfce |
| 00:42.44 | War_Pig | ok |
| 00:42.58 | War_Pig | should I dist upgrade? |
| 00:43.31 | blast007 | I'm doing a build of 2.4.18 on Mint 18.3 Cinnamon on this laptop |
| 00:43.43 | War_Pig | Cinnamon is the winner |
| 00:44.47 | blast007 | working here |
| 00:45.06 | blast007 | tried with a clean config? mv ~/.bzf ~/.bzf.bak |
| 00:47.25 | War_Pig | I originally installed from the repository, dont remember the version. I then built 2.4.18 and did a 'make install'. I'll try moving the config |
| 00:49.56 | War_Pig | no difference.. fwiw, it looks like the stuff might be there.. it's just VERY VERY thin |
| 00:50.25 | War_Pig | I cannot tell which base is which, I cannot see team flags (but I can see regular flags OK,) |
| 00:51.32 | blast007 | what resolution are you running at? |
| 00:52.29 | War_Pig | Looks like 1440x900 in the game |
| 00:52.30 | blast007 | looks like that laptop comes with either a 1440x900 or a 1920x1200 panel |
| 00:52.56 | War_Pig | Should I try a lower resolution? |
| 00:53.01 | blast007 | k, hmm.. was thinking it might be the higher of the two and was just high pixel density |
| 00:53.10 | blast007 | you could |
| 00:53.49 | blast007 | we should probably use dots instead of X's for the flags, and solid shapes instead of outlines for the bases |
| 00:56.04 | War_Pig | 1280x800 is no different. |
| 00:58.17 | War_Pig | 640x480 no different |
| 00:58.24 | War_Pig | and damn ugly |
| 01:02.43 | blast007 | had you removed the Mint repository version of bzflag before you 'make install'ed the compiled one? |
| 01:02.49 | War_Pig | no |
| 01:03.30 | blast007 | you should |
| 01:03.53 | blast007 | maybe you're not even running the version you compiled |
| 01:04.13 | War_Pig | It says 2.4.18 when I run it. |
| 01:04.28 | blast007 | or the one you compiled may be using the files from the repository version |
| 01:05.00 | War_Pig | I'll get rid of it all, and start from scratch. How to I uninstall the compiled version? |
| 01:05.11 | blast007 | sudo make uninstall |
| 01:13.47 | War_Pig | repository version was 2.4.2, fyi |
| 01:17.57 | blast007 | the newer mint would have 2.4.12 |
| 01:19.27 | War_Pig | Nice. Maybe I'll do the dist upgrade if nothing else works. |
| 01:20.45 | blast007 | that's still old, though, but at least it would be able to connect to the list |
| 01:23.18 | blast007 | I guess 2.4.14 is the only version since then with any significant changes |
| 01:24.49 | War_Pig | cleaning done, compiling now |
| 01:49.57 | macsforme | allejo: is there a homebrew package for SDL 1.2 that works on Mojave? I don't think their latest official release compiles on Mojave, but supposedly their development code does |
| 01:51.09 | macsforme | is it just brew install sdl --HEAD? |
| 02:19.00 | Sgeo | I assume modding BZFlag to support VR would be a bad idea? Being able to look around without turning the tank would be cheating? |
| 02:25.13 | blast007 | yeah, I'd think that'd be an issue :) |
| 02:26.28 | blast007 | people considered an external camera as a cheat when I had BZFlag XL back in the day, so I think VR freelook would be similar or worse |
| 02:28.13 | Sgeo | Could disable being able to look around. Would risk bad VR sickness, but I'm pretty sure I'm immune to that >.>. Also maybe allowing it in Observer mode. And maybe servers that intentionally allow it? Is there room in the protocol somewhere? Like a special MOTD message? |
| 02:28.14 | blast007 | I think if we did VR (and that's a big "if"), we'd either make a VR-only version of the game, or there would have to be some serious limitations on the looking around part of it.. maybe something where it's more like you're inside of a tank, and sticking your head outside of the structure just blacks out the view |
| 02:29.08 | Sgeo | Hmm, blacking out everywhere except forward view makes sense I guess. |
| 02:29.09 | blast007 | I wonder if there's any VR tank simulators |
| 02:29.40 | Sgeo | There's a Battlezone VR game, haven't tried it though. |
| 02:31.00 | blast007 | that's gonna be more arcade than simulator |
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| 17:07.10 | allejo | macsforme: yea it's --HEAD. though iirc, the project needs to have support for it so it won't just magically pull down from their dev branch |
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