| 00:08.58 | Zehra | Currently is the game client limited to only loading ".jpg"/".jpeg" and ".png" files for textures? |
| 00:09.19 | blast007 | only PNG |
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| 00:13.48 | Zehra | Any chance of additional file formats being supported? As I would like to possibly see ".gif" files being supported for ease of animation use. |
| 00:14.21 | blast007 | oh god, no gif plz |
| 00:14.45 | blast007 | you don't need gif to animate sprites.. people already do that |
| 00:15.46 | blast007 | heck, our menu icon can support that already. just replace it with an texture that's, say, 64 x 512, with each "frame" being a 64x64 chunk of that image |
| 00:15.51 | blast007 | it will cycle through the frames |
| 00:16.35 | blast007 | there's some way to do that with map objects as well |
| 00:17.46 | Zehra | I'm aware of this. Hence the part of "ease of animation use" being part of the above. |
| 00:18.05 | blast007 | write a tool to do it then |
| 00:18.13 | blast007 | gif is trash |
| 00:19.10 | blast007 | you do realize that GIF only supports 256 colors, right? |
| 00:19.43 | blast007 | also doesn't support alpha transparency |
| 00:19.53 | blast007 | alpha channel* |
| 00:22.57 | Zehra | Probably a bad idea then, but even so, it could offer some possibilities: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Rotating_earth_%28large%29.gif |
| 00:23.50 | blast007 | you can see the banding in that example |
| 00:25.59 | Zehra | Some tricks can be done to minimize that though: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/SmallFullColourGIF.gif, although APNG would be better: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Animated_PNG_example_bouncing_beach_ball.png |
| 00:30.07 | Zehra | (I should have asked if the above may be possible supported vs the gif format.) |
| 00:32.51 | blast007 | full color GIF uses multiple frames overlaid. at that point you're just abusing retaining previous frames to get higher color count out of a GIF, not for animation. |
| 00:38.06 | Zehra | Makes sense. (Please disregard the suggestion of adding gif support to the game client.) |
| 01:22.49 | blast007 | Zehra: what is your thought process behind the client-side API? are you thinking that integrating a client-side scripting language and hooking it into a bunch of stuff is easier than us just adding customization options? |
| 01:25.39 | blast007 | your example, "Servers could be custom sorted by ping or by general location." for instance.. if we go through the trouble of adding a ping to each server on the list and geographic locations, why wouldn't we just add a better server list UI with sorting? |
| 01:26.44 | blast007 | I'm unclear what problem you're attepting to solve with this |
| 01:30.46 | Zehra | It is less of trying to solve a problem, but more of trying to provide another option... |
| 01:31.22 | Zehra | For example, lets one wishes to be notified if a server goes online, they could have it. |
| 01:31.52 | Zehra | Maybe even simple stats or data could be pulled or updated? |
| 01:32.35 | blast007 | it feels like a solution in search of a problem |
| 01:33.44 | Zehra | Like maybe there could be a way of hooking up features, like maybe a key or something to the client? |
| 01:34.13 | Zehra | So it can interact with the server or something? |
| 01:35.15 | Zehra | Quick keys provide some use in terms of simplifying tasks which have some constant. |
| 01:36.05 | blast007 | it doesn't sound like you have a clear idea of what this would even do |
| 01:37.59 | blast007 | you also don't just magically add a client-side API |
| 01:38.41 | blast007 | and even if someone adds it, then we have to maintain it |
| 01:39.59 | Zehra | I think I remember what I might have been thinking of... |
| 01:40.51 | Zehra | Previously I did make several client modifications, although I would have to update them to the next client version. |
| 01:41.37 | Zehra | The modifications could then have been instead using a client side API and it would have been alright. |
| 01:41.49 | blast007 | what kind of modifications? |
| 01:43.17 | Zehra | I sort of tried to get "autohunt" features added to the client. So autohunt CL if holding laser or hunt GM if holding ST or something like that. |
| 01:45.06 | Zehra | I might have tried to do something with automating or otherwise easing the part of doing several client side commands. |
| 01:45.13 | blast007 | from my perspective, that's a questionable modification |
| 01:47.25 | Zehra | I would say so, but the part of others having previously done so or at least providing a feature which would allow one to do so was part of the reason I still worked on the concept a bit. |
| 01:47.36 | macsforme | rico path :P |
| 01:48.08 | Zehra | looks for trepan's autohunt patch |
| 01:49.27 | Zehra | I also thought of being able to perhaps even sort out messages from the console as well, since most of the time, flag grabs and drops don't really matter that much. |
| 01:50.34 | macsforme | are there other games that have a scriptable client, and what are they used for? |
| 01:50.55 | blast007 | WoW, I think |
| 01:51.17 | blast007 | https://wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Lua |
| 01:51.44 | Zehra | I've heard of Minecraft possibly having a scriptable interface. |
| 01:52.14 | Zehra | Maybe not in Lua, but I think it was Java. |
| 01:52.24 | blast007 | minecraft is written in java |
| 01:52.40 | blast007 | java is not a scripting language :) |
| 02:01.49 | Zehra | "Java, write once, run away!" |
| 02:02.05 | blast007 | anywhere* |
| 04:45.30 | Flash | write once, debug everywhere |
| 04:46.36 | allejo | write never, debug nowhere |
| 04:50.29 | Flash | debug nowhere is how most software is written, regardless of the language :) |
| 04:51.28 | allejo | hehe |
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| 23:45.22 | BZNotify | bzflag.org: 03The-Noah 03opened pull request #26 "Add some admin related documentation for API functions" (06https://git.io/fjZjX) |
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