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| 03:54.28 | menotume | interesting |
| 03:58.38 | Mr_Molez | :-S |
| 03:59.37 | unotmeu | menotume: please be quiet |
| 03:59.47 | menotume | pfff |
| 04:00.12 | unotmeu | that does it |
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| 04:00.41 | unotmeu | that'll teach him |
| 04:00.50 | Mr_Molez | aww its not nice to kick yourself like that :P |
| 04:01.00 | unotmeu | i like it :) |
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| 04:02.11 | Mr_Molez | i just been looking at dedicated game servers. Damn they aint cheap are they |
| 04:02.22 | menotume | for a good one, nope |
| 04:02.31 | menotume | $50-$100 / month |
| 04:03.00 | unotmeu | don't listen to him - he's wrong |
| 04:03.11 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 04:06.02 | Mr_Molez | anyone want to entertain me :D |
| 04:06.21 | menotume | sry, got to go |
| 04:06.24 | unotmeu | me 2 |
| 04:06.34 | Mr_Molez | later ;) |
| 04:06.39 | unotmeu | byyyye |
| 04:14.35 | zoly | 8botsplease 4 mrmolez |
| 04:16.08 | Mr_Molez | :) |
| 04:18.17 | zoly | where is "here" for server? |
| 04:19.10 | Mr_Molez | ? |
| 04:19.23 | zoly | 500 gbyte traffic, athlon xp 3000, 1 gb ram. 100 mbit u/d is a bit below 40 E here |
| 04:20.36 | Mr_Molez | Euro ? |
| 04:20.40 | zoly | right |
| 04:20.50 | Mr_Molez | ooo thats still alot |
| 04:21.11 | zoly | colocation is cheaper. place your own server |
| 04:21.23 | zoly | flat one! |
| 04:21.55 | Mr_Molez | oo didnt know that was possible ? |
| 04:22.15 | zoly | it is |
| 04:22.24 | Mr_Molez | sweet :D |
| 04:23.42 | Mr_Molez | pitty bzflag aint poppular enough yet to have people in ducati style servers 24/7 |
| 04:24.00 | zoly | of course, to replace defective parts will be your responsability, different from rented dedicated servers,] |
| 04:24.54 | zoly | for 4:4 you do not need really need a dedicated server :) |
| 04:25.06 | Mr_Molez | lol they will expect me to bring a small specially designed server.. i would walk in with a huge ass desktop tower :D |
| 04:25.12 | zoly | for 30:30 you will |
| 04:25.12 | Mr_Molez | ohh ? |
| 04:25.29 | Mr_Molez | whats min u think for 4:4 ? |
| 04:25.36 | Mr_Molez | u(pload ) |
| 04:25.36 | zoly | means, if you host a game for all players online :) |
| 04:26.04 | zoly | with 15:15, i have about 200 kb/sec traffic |
| 04:26.23 | zoly | 4:4 should be less than 20 kbyte/sec |
| 04:26.34 | Mr_Molez | thats not bad |
| 04:27.48 | Mr_Molez | what server u run ? |
| 04:27.48 | Mr_Molez | (name) |
| 04:27.58 | zoly | the adrenalines |
| 04:28.11 | Mr_Molez | nice |
| 04:29.30 | zoly | european servers. thus not ideal for usa players. |
| 04:29.48 | zoly | best usa players come in with about 120 ms lag |
| 04:30.17 | Mr_Molez | yeh i notice that when im in matches against us players and where i would normally kill a eu player.. i need to shoot closer to the middle of a us tank |
| 04:30.24 | zoly | many are around 150 ms |
| 04:30.32 | zoly | some up to 200 ms |
| 04:30.55 | zoly | best european players are 10..11 ms |
| 04:31.13 | Mr_Molez | i get about 47 |
| 04:31.23 | zoly | best players outside of germany are about 25 ms |
| 04:31.46 | zoly | u.k.? |
| 04:31.55 | Mr_Molez | yeh |
| 04:32.00 | zoly | 50 ms around, right |
| 04:33.43 | Mr_Molez | ur trying to set up a league for adrenalines arnt u ? |
| 04:34.09 | zoly | the league has been going for about one month now. adrenaline + pillbox maps |
| 04:34.23 | Mr_Molez | nice |
| 04:34.26 | Mr_Molez | is it popular ? |
| 04:35.06 | zoly | about 80 people registered. iirc, 12 teams, but 5 not played yet. +/- , not totally sure about the numbers. |
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| 04:36.56 | Mr_Molez | ducati style is the only 1 for me, if that stopped i dont think i would play bzflag anymore |
| 04:37.08 | zoly | it think it is quite ok, under the light that there hasn't been any action of publicity yet |
| 04:38.16 | zoly | probably, if we'd advertise its existence more loudly, it would grow faster, but that's not really the goal of it. we prefer "organic" growth. |
| 04:39.00 | zoly | passing along its existence by word of mouth does allright for now. |
| 04:39.01 | Mr_Molez | yeh thats probablly the best. instead of getting loads of people to join up but never play |
| 04:41.07 | zoly | 11 teams, not 12. |
| 04:41.19 | zoly | 76 players, 20 w/o team |
| 04:41.42 | Mr_Molez | ahh |
| 04:42.37 | zoly | and we don't do ducati style |
| 04:42.54 | zoly | that's what the ducati ctf league is for |
| 04:43.04 | Mr_Molez | yeh i kinda guessed that |
| 04:43.13 | zoly | we also don't jump |
| 04:43.32 | zoly | nor do we provide superflags |
| 04:43.58 | zoly | "no ducati" means, "no 2 shot rico random map" |
| 04:44.16 | zoly | but any deviation of this formula is possible |
| 04:44.59 | Mr_Molez | ill have to check the server out |
| 04:45.00 | zoly | say, 1 shot rico random map would be possible, if there would be demand for it |
| 04:45.15 | zoly | or 2 shot random no rico too |
| 04:45.35 | zoly | or 2 shot rico designed map as well |
| 04:46.30 | Mr_Molez | u in a ducati team ? |
| 04:46.46 | zoly | no |
| 04:47.06 | zoly | i created the adrenaline for testing purposes, and now i am stuck with it :) |
| 04:47.18 | zoly | adrenaline team ... |
| 04:47.19 | Mr_Molez | lol |
| 04:48.06 | Mr_Molez | what about 1v1 ? |
| 04:48.24 | zoly | rarely. i do play sometimes on dub, different nick |
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| 13:33.31 | TheLastSpartan | New news from matches: Sep 13 23:22 => [HoW] Hell On Wheels:12, Bz Incorporated:1 || Sep 13 22:24 => [HoW] Hell On Wheels:9, The Barbarians:1 || Sep 13 21:25 => [TLZ] The Legendary ZeeBrothers:2, Bz Incorporated:2 || Sep 13 21:24 => Bz Incorporated:11, Street-Kart-Racers:2 || Sep 13 21:21 => The Barbarians:7, Bz Incorporated:4 |
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| 18:35.08 | TheLastSpartan | New news from matches: Sep 14 18:29 => [HoW] Hell On Wheels:9, Vitamin bz:2 |
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| 20:08.54 | TheLastSpartan | New news from matches: Sep 14 19:34 => [HoW] Hell On Wheels:9, Bz Incorporated:2 |
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| 21:52.08 | TheLastSpartan | New news from gumatches: Sep 14 21:49 => TTT:4, [ForestForce]:3 |
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| 22:25.24 | zoly | hi mr_molez |
| 22:28.23 | mr_molez | hey :) |
| 22:28.33 | mr_molez | i just joined ur league |
| 22:29.10 | mr_molez | is this the main league used for pillbox ? |
| 22:36.09 | zoly | i notices. seen your article in the forum, and reacted |
| 22:36.31 | zoly | playing pillbox and adrenaline maps, and listening to map requests in the forum |
| 22:36.56 | zoly | as long as it is no-jump no-superflags and no-exactly-ducati. |
| 22:37.11 | zoly | and not more than 3 shots :) |
| 22:37.30 | zoly | teams agree on the map they want to match on before the match |
| 22:37.37 | mr_molez | thats goood :) if i knew that what pillbox was before i would have joined months ago :) or the earliest possible time |
| 22:37.53 | zoly | we have the only "accurate" pillbox online, which is used for matches too |
| 22:38.04 | zoly | free of asymmetries |
| 22:38.12 | zoly | and center out of center |
| 22:38.43 | zoly | couldn't. the league is only one month old noiw |
| 22:38.57 | mr_molez | ahh. good i am early :) |
| 22:39.23 | zoly | you could say that, true. |
| 22:40.34 | zoly | currently there is a 2shot rico pillbox online too. evaluation, because the topic "rico pillbox" appeared in the forum a while ago/ |
| 22:41.20 | mr_molez | oh .. i dont like the idea of that. i would prefer it to be the original like on 1.10.8 (i cant remember what server was a long time ago) |
| 22:41.49 | zoly | hepcat |
| 22:41.50 | mr_molez | i think its still running though |
| 22:41.58 | zoly | on knijga |
| 22:42.19 | mr_molez | yeh. is that 1 classed as default ? |
| 22:42.27 | mr_molez | or original |
| 22:42.49 | zoly | that's the match map, right. at least, the "accurate" version, with asymmetries removed |
| 22:43.10 | mr_molez | thats good. thats the type of think i was hoping :) |
| 22:43.21 | zoly | classic has for example 3x7 and 1x6 pillars. accurate has 4x7 pillars |
| 22:43.28 | mr_molez | heh i hope to match u once i get in a team |
| 22:43.37 | zoly | 1x6 because the center is so much out of center :) |
| 22:44.18 | zoly | the redone pillbox has received thumbs up by all players who have tested it as far |
| 22:44.28 | mr_molez | i dont like the map with the picture (asymetries ) is it ? .. i mainly use the radar and am unsure to shoot unless there is a wall there |
| 22:44.46 | zoly | all are asymmetric in the same way, except ours |
| 22:45.02 | zoly | seems like they are all based on the same map |
| 22:45.13 | mr_molez | i seen the pic on the website looks good |
| 22:45.29 | zoly | thus for match use, the rebuild that one |
| 22:45.41 | zoly | look closely. on the web site, that is the asymmetric one |
| 22:46.07 | zoly | count the pillars, observer the distance from center to closest pillar. |
| 22:46.31 | zoly | measure difference between center, and the cross which supposedly should be in the center |
| 22:46.56 | zoly | notice that one pillar touches the wall |
| 22:47.07 | mr_molez | yeh |
| 22:47.18 | zoly | as match maps, we have both pillboxes, classic and accurate |
| 22:47.18 | mr_molez | is that to make up for the cross not being in the centre ? |
| 22:47.45 | zoly | count the pillars from the center ... |
| 22:48.08 | mr_molez | yeh 6 and 7 |
| 22:48.39 | zoly | the teams who prefer to match on that one can still do |
| 22:48.52 | zoly | but the accurate version is online too, match and public |
| 22:48.59 | mr_molez | gr8 |
| 22:49.21 | zoly | no imposing on team playing preference |
| 22:50.42 | mr_molez | do you plan in the future to give stricter rules on the map ? |
| 22:51.40 | zoly | policy now is, if players wish for a map to be used for matches, it will be suggested in the forum. if there is demand for it, the map will come. |
| 22:52.48 | mr_molez | how good are you as a pillbox player ? |
| 22:52.57 | zoly | if that can work in future too, no need to change it. |
| 22:53.06 | zoly | how would one measure that? |
| 22:53.27 | zoly | want some sceenshots with my best scores? |
| 22:53.32 | zoly | (pillbox btw) |
| 22:53.38 | mr_molez | sure :D |
| 22:53.45 | zoly | i'll PM them to you |
| 22:53.56 | mr_molez | cheers |
| 22:54.11 | Birdie | how high are they? |
| 22:54.12 | mr_molez | o |
| 22:55.32 | zoly | numbers say not much. screenshots show the opponents too, as score should be seen in proper ratio |
| 22:56.17 | zoly | you notive that i play with changing nicks. |
| 22:56.19 | zoly | notice |
| 22:57.01 | mr_molez | lol yeh i was wondering |
| 22:57.42 | mr_molez | nice score |
| 22:57.45 | zoly | in general i would say, i suck as player :) |
| 22:58.10 | zoly | sometimes i happen to be lucky |
| 22:58.35 | Birdie | my best ratio ever is 120 20 i think |
| 22:58.36 | mr_molez | i hope my ducati skills help |
| 22:58.40 | mr_molez | wow |
| 22:58.40 | Birdie | on gu:) |
| 22:58.44 | mr_molez | eww |
| 22:58.49 | mr_molez | gu sucks |
| 22:58.51 | Birdie | nah |
| 22:58.52 | Birdie | gu rox |
| 22:58.54 | Birdie | and done without camping |
| 22:59.03 | Birdie | only on ground |
| 22:59.09 | zoly | SW? |
| 22:59.56 | Birdie | no superflags |
| 23:00.36 | Birdie | the "best" flag i got was propably highspeed:=- |
| 23:00.48 | Birdie | but i dont play much with flags |
| 23:01.55 | zoly | i am so unused to flags that i can't play well with them, as result i don't play much servers with flags, thus am not getting used to flags |
| 23:02.02 | Birdie | btw molez; give your pic to meno for pics.bzleague.com :) |
| 23:02.25 | Birdie | at least dub is fair to play, every one has the same, no flags, 2 shots no jumping- |
| 23:02.29 | Mr_Molez | nah ill get a better 1 for pics :) |
| 23:02.34 | Mr_Molez | a more segsier 1 |
| 23:03.15 | Birdie | i took a cool one to:) |
| 23:03.19 | Birdie | beer:) |
| 23:06.22 | Mr_Molez | hehe im getting so excited about having a pillbox match.. ill start practicing tomorrow |
| 23:06.46 | Birdie | pillbox is not something i like |
| 23:06.51 | Birdie | certainly cause it doesnt have rico |
| 23:07.00 | Birdie | is why i dont play in the league:) |
| 23:07.26 | zoly | Birdie: we have rico pillbox online, 2 shot, under evaluation |
| 23:07.34 | Birdie | oh? |
| 23:07.48 | zoly | not reading the forum, are you? |
| 23:08.01 | Birdie | i do..but not always with full atttention |
| 23:08.05 | zoly | it is not a match map. at least not yet. |
| 23:08.13 | zoly | depends on the player feedback |
| 23:08.13 | Mr_Molez | rico would come in handy :) usually the only kills i make are with ricos |
| 23:08.24 | Birdie | but like about maps i dont really read cause i dont really need to know:) |
| 23:08.41 | Birdie | cause i thought its all maps i dont like:p |
| 23:09.08 | Mr_Molez | u dislike all maps ? |
| 23:09.13 | Birdie | well |
| 23:09.16 | Birdie | the 2 big ones |
| 23:09.20 | Birdie | where its all about mostly |
| 23:09.34 | Birdie | pillbox and that other..(forgot name)..is not really something i like |
| 23:09.53 | Mr_Molez | well ur a huer.. ewww |
| 23:09.54 | Birdie | adrenalinemaps? |
| 23:09.56 | Mr_Molez | *guer |
| 23:10.01 | Birdie | !dict guer |
| 23:10.03 | TheLastSpartan | Birdie: No definition for 'guer' could be found. |
| 23:10.08 | Birdie | i'm what? |
| 23:10.09 | Birdie | :) |
| 23:10.09 | Mr_Molez | lol |
| 23:10.14 | Mr_Molez | :( |
| 23:10.47 | zoly | Birdie: i am glad you don't like those maps |
| 23:10.53 | Birdie | really? |
| 23:11.11 | zoly | if you'd do, we'd have to start looking for another neutral referee again. |
| 23:11.16 | Birdie | hehe |
| 23:11.42 | Birdie | well i was thinking about joining a team cause i saw some of my best buddys are in a team but i remembered i have to be neutral:) |
| 23:11.54 | zoly | thus, i should personally see to it that there will never be a rico pillbox match map :) |
| 23:12.10 | Birdie | rico rox |
| 23:12.17 | Birdie | rico is the power of the game |
| 23:12.20 | Mr_Molez | join birdie then i can kick ya ass ;) |
| 23:12.21 | Birdie | (non jumping) |
| 23:12.28 | zoly | Birdie: nah, if you want to join, go ahead. |
| 23:12.31 | Birdie | you wished molez:) |
| 23:12.34 | Birdie | nah its ok |
| 23:12.34 | Mr_Molez | hehe |
| 23:12.39 | Birdie | its no rico anyway:) |
| 23:12.48 | zoly | adrenaline is rico |
| 23:12.55 | Birdie | but not really usefull |
| 23:12.58 | Birdie | between all those things.. |
| 23:12.59 | zoly | at the walls |
| 23:13.05 | zoly | and bases |
| 23:13.07 | Birdie | pyramids called:) |
| 23:13.19 | zoly | lots of last-second rescues |
| 23:13.25 | Mr_Molez | where to i post to ask for rico ? my.bzflag.org/bb ? that forum ? |
| 23:13.47 | zoly | no. adrenaline.l-aim.de league forum |
| 23:13.58 | Mr_Molez | ok |
| 23:14.05 | zoly | same forum where you offered yourself as player |
| 23:14.17 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 23:15.05 | Mr_Molez | any old post already there ? |
| 23:16.02 | zoly | match servers threadm though it went off topic several times |
| 23:16.33 | Mr_Molez | its locked |
| 23:17.14 | Mr_Molez | o never mind |
| 23:17.18 | Mr_Molez | there is 1 further down |
| 23:18.56 | zoly | right, that one. |
| 23:19.26 | Birdie | ok goodnight boys |
| 23:19.32 | zoly | slaap'ze |
| 23:19.37 | Birdie | slaapwel:) |
| 23:19.48 | zoly | t'rusten |
| 23:20.45 | Mr_Molez | ok i posted |
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| 23:24.40 | zoly | good |
| 23:36.44 | zoly | brad2901, menotume: ping |
| 23:36.55 | brad2901 | pong |
| 23:37.01 | zoly | ah :) |
| 23:37.09 | zoly | mind if i PM you? |
| 23:37.16 | brad2901 | go ahead |
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