irclog2html for #bzleague on 20051128

`00:00.09`	`SC-phone`	`trb: seen the new GTO?`
`00:00.30`	`toki`	`well`
`00:00.49`	`toki`	`imho, females are very curve, and have beautifull lines`
`00:01.09`	`TheRedBaron`	`sc-phone... oh yea! curves, class and speed`
`00:01.10`	`SC-phone`	`err...typo.. GT`
`00:01.18`	`SC-phone`	`yep`
`00:01.37`	`kierra`	`lol`
`00:01.41`	`toki`	`and`
`00:01.44`	`SC-phone`	`toki: all women?`
`00:01.48`	`toki`	`yes`
`00:01.50`	`toki`	`ALL women`
`00:01.54`	`SC-phone`	`or just some?`
`00:01.56`	`TheRedBaron`	`toki: well, its also a point of taste`
`00:01.56`	`SC-phone`	`hrm`
`00:02.05`	`toki`	`half is pheremones, half is actual, real curves`
`00:02.12`	`TheRedBaron`	`yup yup`
`00:02.43`	`toki`	`ant is coming`
`00:02.45`	`toki`	`he can help :-D`
`00:02.51`	`TheRedBaron`	`so in conclusion what drives a male's interation with a female?`
`00:02.55`	`*** join/#bzleague anteate1 (n=Jonathan@pcp0010274111pcs.bbridg01.fl.comcast.net)`
`00:02.55`	`*** mode/#bzleague [+v anteate1] by ChanServ`
`00:03.00`	`toki`	`ant`
`00:03.01`	`toki`	`good`
`00:03.02`	`TheRedBaron`	`even ant`
`00:03.10`	`anteate1`	`hello`
`00:03.14`	`SC-phone`	`hi ante`
`00:03.18`	`kierra`	`ant!!!!`
`00:03.27`	`anteate1`	`:-D`
`00:03.30`	`TheRedBaron`	`sc-phone, becase you are women! hear her roar!`
`00:03.40`	`toki`	`anteate1: TRB and i just made the connection between nice, old cars (see trb) and the male female interaction law`
`00:03.47`	`SC-phone`	`ante is ur bick registered here`
`00:03.47`	`kierra`	`in numbers too big to ignore`
`00:04.00`	`SC-phone`	`nick`
`00:04.09`	`anteate1`	`no i am not reg. here sc`
`00:04.16`	`SC-phone`	`bah`
`00:04.17`	`SC-phone`	`ok`
`00:04.26`	`SC-phone`	`u should be :)`
`00:04.34`	`anteate1`	`how did i change my name ? /-:`
`00:04.37`	`anteate1`	`oops`
`00:04.41`	`TheRedBaron`	`sc-phone: quit trying to skirt the issue and change the subject`
`00:04.43`	`anteate1`	`:-/`
`00:04.50`	`TheRedBaron`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:05.04`	`anteate1`	`i do not recall changing my name`
`00:05.14`	`SC-phone`	`oops..sorry - was going to send him something in pm but not if he isn't reg'd`
`00:05.17`	`anteater`	`thank you`
`00:05.22`	`kierra`	`you conclude with a question that you didnt even answer? 04:55) TheRedBaron: so in conclusion what drives a male's interation with a female?"`
`00:05.26`	`anteater`	`what? old cars?`
`00:05.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`kierra: we've been quite obvious here...`
`00:05.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`even Sc got it :)`
`00:05.54`	`toki`	`yeah`
`00:06.01`	`SC-phone`	`jbot's logs on this will be colector's editions soon`
`00:06.07`	`toki`	`yup`
`00:06.20`	`kierra`	`obvious?`
`00:06.21`	`TheRedBaron`	`thats why women can't stand it when their husbands or "Men" start working and restoring an old car`
`00:06.26`	`SC-phone`	`well, I LIKE old cars`
`00:06.30`	`kierra`	`that is not true`
`00:06.32`	`toki`	`yay for chicky`
`00:06.39`	`kierra`	`so do i`
`00:06.41`	`anteater`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:06.42`	`TheRedBaron`	`Its competition... curves, lines, class and speed`
`00:07.02`	`SC-phone`	`look at www.kirkanddonna.com/kirk and read his spit page`
`00:07.07`	`anteater`	`lol, speed trb? :-D`
`00:07.16`	`toki`	`yay!!`
`00:07.17`	`SC-phone`	`hehe`
`00:07.21`	`toki`	`even ant gets is`
`00:07.22`	`toki`	`it`
`00:07.26`	`TheRedBaron`	`remember, we are speaking in generalities here... not all women will comply, but most will be found under ou generalization`
`00:08.03`	`SC-phone`	`ou?`
`00:08.14`	`anteater`	`i would like a nice old mustang but i would also like a nice new ford f-250 :-D`
`00:08.28`	`anteater`	`something that could run over a house :-D`
`00:08.29`	`toki`	`ooohhh, i want a mustang........`
`00:08.34`	`SC-phone`	`ante, reg ur nick`
`00:08.35`	`TheRedBaron`	`*our`
`00:08.46`	`toki`	`actually, a mustang tempered lady would be perfect`
`00:08.55`	`TheRedBaron`	`yay for toki!`
`00:08.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`~tokimi++`
`00:09.11`	`SC-phone`	`now I do not get THAT (the desire for trucks)`
`00:09.18`	`toki`	`lol`
`00:09.23`	`TheRedBaron`	`kierra: the male female interection is based on curves...`
`00:09.32`	`anteater`	`yes a truck`
`00:09.33`	`toki`	`and speed`
`00:09.35`	`anteater`	`i have one and i like it`
`00:09.39`	`SC-phone`	`eww`
`00:09.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`I have a truck too`
`00:09.47`	`TheRedBaron`	`an old 1988 dodge`
`00:09.55`	`anteater`	`u sit up high in a truck`
`00:09.55`	`toki`	`:-D`
`00:09.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`I think kierra is lost...`
`00:10.03`	`SC-phone`	`I have a jeep & a bicycle`
`00:10.15`	`SC-phone`	`in a jeep too`
`00:10.15`	`anteater`	`jeep is near a truck`
`00:10.23`	`SC-phone`	`no!!!!`
`00:10.28`	`anteater`	`yes :-P`
`00:10.31`	`kierra`	`lol, trb`
`00:10.39`	`SC-phone`	`truck is yck. jeep is cool`
`00:10.47`	`toki`	`i want a motorcycle`
`00:11.00`	`SC-phone`	`hubby has 2`
`00:11.12`	`SC-phone`	`good gas mileage`
`00:11.15`	`kierra`	`now i like a car with pickup, that handles the road nicely......you know what i mean, trb by the way I drive`
`00:11.21`	`kierra`	`mustangs are nice`
`00:11.33`	`anteater`	`http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/superduty/`
`00:11.35`	`kierra`	`but a 2 seater mercedes is my idea`
`00:12.02`	`anteater`	`i would like a big mercedes`
`00:12.14`	`anteater`	`i want the speed at the end not so much at the start :-D`
`00:12.15`	`TheRedBaron`	`i want the v12 bmw`
`00:12.22`	`kierra`	`or a 4 door 4x4 p/u, 440 engine or diesel, extended bed`
`00:12.29`	`SC-phone`	`ante, I cat get links on my phone but by the looks of that link, YUCK`
`00:12.42`	`anteater`	`lol`
`00:12.58`	`SC-phone`	`i'd like th GT, but not in my class`
`00:12.58`	`kierra`	`~dub`
`00:13.06`	`TheRedBaron`	`anteater: very very nice... good taste`
`00:13.15`	`anteater`	`ty :-D`
`00:14.00`	`TheRedBaron`	`toki but sadly our philosophical discussion has digressed into vehicle taste...`
`00:14.11`	`toki`	`umm`
`00:14.14`	`toki`	`no digression`
`00:14.22`	`kierra`	`yep`
`00:14.26`	`toki`	`but progression`
`00:14.40`	`kierra`	`wish orange were here to add his 2 cents`
`00:14.40`	`anteater`	`so sc why do u not like trucks?`
`00:14.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`toki, shall we pick up on cures for an obsession with curves?`
`00:14.48`	`toki`	`nah`
`00:14.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`ok`
`00:15.00`	`kierra`	`on that note i may go get something to eat`
`00:15.09`	`anteater`	`cheesecake ?`
`00:15.22`	`kierra`	`no............:(`
`00:15.24`	`SC-phone`	`dunno - they just seem so..`
`00:15.29`	`toki`	`i like curves to much to be cured`
`00:15.44`	`kierra`	`orange is here now`
`00:15.49`	`toki`	`yay!`
`00:15.51`	`orange`	`hmm`
`00:15.57`	`orange`	`do I need to read back?`
`00:15.57`	`toki`	`read the log sorange`
`00:15.58`	`anteater`	`they serve a purpose`
`00:16.06`	`TheRedBaron`	`toki, not quite a cure... but a rememdy for control...`
`00:16.18`	`TheRedBaron`	`i'm thinking of the snow angels..`
`00:16.37`	`kierra`	`philosophical discussion on male/female interactions`
`00:16.39`	`toki`	`oh, im very controled`
`00:16.50`	`TheRedBaron`	`yes yes... that is good`
`00:17.08`	`orange`	`hmmm, perhaps I should just go away again instead :-)`
`00:17.09`	`kierra`	`?`
`00:17.23`	`kierra`	`mature imput would be welcome`
`00:17.32`	`TheRedBaron`	`oh your not getting away with it so easily orange...`
`00:17.33`	`anteater`	`i am trying`
`00:17.39`	`kierra`	`all we're getting is vague generalities from trb and tok`
`00:17.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`....`
`00:17.51`	`TheRedBaron`	`kierra we were quite specific`
`00:17.59`	`toki`	`yes!`
`00:18.00`	`kierra`	`lines, curves`
`00:18.11`	`kierra`	`in reference to cars`
`00:18.14`	`TheRedBaron`	`that is what drives the interaction`
`00:18.19`	`orange`	`yikes, it's so long!`
`00:18.23`	`kierra`	`women are so much more than lines and curves`
`00:18.27`	`TheRedBaron`	`I used a car as a proper visual reference and aid`
`00:18.33`	`SC-phone`	`ante, they just seem so ... primitive is the only word I can think of but it isn't the rt one`
`00:18.36`	`TheRedBaron`	`Kierra of course...`
`00:18.47`	`anteater`	`lol, sc :-P`
`00:18.49`	`kierra`	`visual is shallow, imho`
`00:18.50`	`TheRedBaron`	`but we are discussion what drives the interaction`
`00:18.59`	`anteater`	`most people have them b/c they need them`
`00:19.01`	`toki`	`hey, women have mental curves to`
`00:19.09`	`TheRedBaron`	`kierra: you don't jump off a platform in the bottom of the ocean...`
`00:19.19`	`TheRedBaron`	`you start in the shallows and wade in`
`00:19.27`	`TheRedBaron`	`of course there are sharks...`
`00:19.38`	`TheRedBaron`	`but we will not metaphorically apply them to our analogy`
`00:19.54`	`kierra`	`you dont wade off a platform eithe4r`
`00:20.05`	`TheRedBaron`	`nope, you jump, and hope for the best`
`00:20.18`	`kierra`	`you dont have to jump`
`00:20.22`	`TheRedBaron`	`no way to know the temperature....`
`00:20.31`	`TheRedBaron`	`if you're on a platform how do you get off?`
`00:20.42`	`anteater`	`climb down`
`00:20.53`	`kierra`	`what is the platform in the analogy`
`00:20.54`	`TheRedBaron`	`either way you either have a quick entry or slow entry`
`00:21.07`	`anteater`	`i vote slow`
`00:21.11`	`TheRedBaron`	`platform: what drives the male female interaction`
`00:21.25`	`TheRedBaron`	`you said that the visual is shallow`
`00:21.28`	`kierra`	`i dont understand your point`
`00:21.34`	`Death_Barrel`	`~google remax`
`00:21.42`	`TheRedBaron`	`I said like an ocean, you don't jump off a platform into the depths and unkown`
`00:21.42`	`kierra`	`if the platform is the interaction, why would i jump off????`
`00:21.46`	`TheRedBaron`	`*unkown`
`00:21.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`*unknown`
`00:21.55`	`TheRedBaron`	`rather you wade from the shallow into the deeper`
`00:22.00`	`toki`	`TheRedBaron: your toying with them now..... shame shame`
`00:22.07`	`kierra`	`no he isnt`
`00:22.20`	`TheRedBaron`	`its like this`
`00:22.28`	`TheRedBaron`	`silence while i explain....`
`00:22.33`	`toki`	`LALALALALA`
`00:22.34`	`toki`	`LALALALA`
`00:22.34`	`anteater`	`lol`
`00:22.36`	`TheRedBaron`	`and i shall do so with pose, poetry and a touch of the dramatic.`
`00:22.40`	`TheRedBaron`	`~lart toki`
`00:22.42`	`kierra`	`ai`
`00:22.42`	`SC-phone`	`heh`
`00:22.47`	`toki`	`lol`
`00:22.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`women....`
`00:22.52`	`TheRedBaron`	`are like an ocean!`
`00:22.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`vast, deep...`
`00:23.03`	`kierra`	`deep and mysterious`
`00:23.05`	`TheRedBaron`	`filled with the obscure, mystical`
`00:23.10`	`TheRedBaron`	`(i'm explaining here!)`
`00:23.10`	`anteater`	`some wide ;-)`
`00:23.21`	`kierra`	`yes dear`
`00:23.32`	`TheRedBaron`	`the unknown, pleasures, waves of emotions`
`00:23.36`	`TheRedBaron`	`filled with dangers!`
`00:23.40`	`TheRedBaron`	`or providence.`
`00:23.46`	`kierra`	`lol`
`00:23.57`	`TheRedBaron`	`An ocean is visually beautiful`
`00:24.08`	`TheRedBaron`	`but to leave it at that is rather shallow`
`00:24.26`	`kierra`	`just one eye?`
`00:24.31`	`TheRedBaron`	`Women are like oceans, asthetically beautiful...`
`00:24.35`	`SC-phone`	`typo pfft`
`00:24.39`	`toki`	`hey, quiet`
`00:24.39`	`kierra`	`jk`
`00:24.42`	`toki`	`....`
`00:24.44`	`kierra`	`zip`
`00:24.46`	`TheRedBaron`	`but if left just at that, I agree with you, such a relationship will be rather shallow`
`00:25.02`	`TheRedBaron`	`But one does not just plunge into an ocean of unknown`
`00:25.08`	`TheRedBaron`	`instead they start with the shallow`
`00:25.13`	`TheRedBaron`	`the asthetically beautiful`
`00:25.18`	`TheRedBaron`	`and wade in.`
`00:25.54`	`toki`	`TheRedBaron: yw`
`00:25.54`	`TheRedBaron`	`understand now?`
`00:26.15`	`kierra`	`what does orange think?`
`00:26.23`	`TheRedBaron`	`he's lost in emotion...`
`00:26.28`	`toki`	`he got in to quyicly`
`00:26.29`	`kierra`	`lol`
`00:26.39`	`TheRedBaron`	`sc-phone better not leave..`
`00:26.51`	`SC-phone`	`...?`
`00:26.53`	`kierra`	`i'm getting hungry myself`
`00:26.58`	`toki`	`fooood`
`00:27.04`	`TheRedBaron`	`ok scratch all that.`
`00:27.11`	`kierra`	`the way to a man's heart`
`00:27.21`	`SC-phone`	`heh`
`00:27.24`	`toki`	`hey, thats female-male interaction`
`00:27.25`	`TheRedBaron`	`you women are shallow and missed the entire message and porportion of what i just said...`
`00:27.43`	`toki`	`sigh`
`00:27.47`	`toki`	`we lost TrB`
`00:27.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`in his own house and land is a prophet not accepted`
`00:28.30`	`kierra`	`not far, trb`
`00:28.37`	`SC-phone`	`first I was deep as an ocean & scary, now i'm too shallow`
`00:28.50`	`TheRedBaron`	`yes, its a paradox!`
`00:28.59`	`kierra`	`~dub`
`00:29.13`	`SC-phone`	`actually, I thought I was withu`
`00:29.14`	`TheRedBaron`	`thats the last time i wax eloquent on IRC...`
`00:29.29`	`kierra`	`hey, you said women are like the ocean`
`00:29.30`	`toki`	`ill take your eloquence on aim though`
`00:29.30`	`anteater`	`what does ~dub mean?`
`00:29.40`	`TheRedBaron`	`sc-phone, an ocean is both deep and shallow, it has both`
`00:29.41`	`kierra`	`tells you who's on the server`
`00:29.43`	`SC-phone`	`but then maybe I just didn't know how to process it or like what I heard`
`00:29.58`	`SC-phone`	`jbot: literal dub`
`00:29.59`	`jbot`	`"dub" is "<reply> see bzfquery dub.bzflag.org:5154"`
`00:29.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`but in real life, what is more appreciated and frolicked in?`
`00:30.00`	`anteater`	`cool. thanks :-D`
`00:30.06`	`TheRedBaron`	`the deep or the shallow?`
`00:30.09`	`toki`	`well, regardless, thats how alot of men view the curvy, and nicer smelling humans`
`00:30.58`	`SC-phone`	`trb: yes, but to truly understand or appreciate the ocean, u can't STAY in the shallows`
`00:31.11`	`toki`	`who said any thing about staying`
`00:31.31`	`anteater`	`but what if you can not swim well?`
`00:31.32`	`SC-phone`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:31.49`	`toki`	`it take stime to make it ot the deep water....`
`00:31.55`	`anteater`	`i like the shallows`
`00:31.57`	`toki`	`who has time in the day in age`
`00:32.00`	`TheRedBaron`	`only tokimi fully understands how the ocean metaphorically and truly represents a women`
`00:32.06`	`kierra`	`the shallows, if we're honest....thats where the majority spend their time`
`00:32.06`	`SC-phone`	`then u will never fully appreciate the ocean or understand it`
`00:32.12`	`anteater`	`hey i think i do :-P`
`00:32.42`	`toki`	`well`
`00:32.43`	`SC-phone`	`kierra: yes`
`00:32.45`	`TheRedBaron`	`sc-phone thats the whole point of my analogy`
`00:32.56`	`toki`	`well, no one said the truth is nice`
`00:32.56`	`SC-phone`	`ok, trb, reverse it`
`00:33.06`	`TheRedBaron`	`will do`
`00:33.08`	`SC-phone`	`how does the ocean relate to man`
`00:33.35`	`TheRedBaron`	`men aren't an ocean.`
`00:33.35`	`toki`	`all shallows, reefs, and submerged mines`
`00:33.39`	`toki`	`lol`
`00:33.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`we are the continents`
`00:33.46`	`toki`	`i like TrB;s better`
`00:33.46`	`TheRedBaron`	`rugged`
`00:33.56`	`TheRedBaron`	`tower mountains`
`00:33.58`	`toki`	`ornery`
`00:34.04`	`TheRedBaron`	`wallowing valleys,`
`00:34.09`	`toki`	`baren at some places, full and dense in others`
`00:34.10`	`TheRedBaron`	`steady plains`
`00:34.42`	`TheRedBaron`	`we are built upon`
`00:34.43`	`toki`	`it takes planning, and skill to navagate around`
`00:34.47`	`anteater`	`the red tide`
`00:34.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`~lart anteater`
`00:34.59`	`toki`	`lol!!`
`00:35.05`	`SC-phone`	`hehe`
`00:35.18`	`anteater`	`some donuts sound good`
`00:36.07`	`toki`	`and the converse holds`
`00:36.18`	`TheRedBaron`	`toki... pure genius!`
`00:36.24`	`toki`	`ty`
`00:36.34`	`toki`	`but you had the frame work`
`00:36.40`	`SC-phone`	`toki, restate that pls`
`00:36.54`	`toki`	`say it again, or rephrase`
`00:37.02`	`TheRedBaron`	`say it again`
`00:37.07`	`SC-phone`	`rephrase`
`00:37.09`	`toki`	`oh`
`00:37.10`	`toki`	`ok`
`00:37.20`	`menotume`	`rephrased: YOu can't drown on a continent`
`00:37.33`	`toki`	`oceans and continents are inherently sepparate entities`
`00:37.36`	`toki`	`~lart menotume`
`00:37.42`	`toki`	`however`
`00:37.44`	`SC-phone`	`the lawyer tries to fully grasp the words of the physisict`
`00:37.57`	`toki`	`while there is a slight mix of oceans and continents`
`00:38.02`	`toki`	`reference: muddy waters and lakes`
`00:38.10`	`SC-phone`	`ah ok`
`00:38.15`	`toki`	`you cannot truly mix a continent and an ocean`
`00:38.17`	`toki`	`however`
`00:38.26`	`toki`	`you cannot have a continent with out an ocean, by definition`
`00:38.30`	`toki`	`they come paired`
`00:38.32`	`toki`	`at the leased`
`00:38.45`	`toki`	`and`
`00:38.46`	`toki`	`:`
`00:39.12`	`toki`	`the continent sees the ocean for her first part (the part that imediantly touches him) first`
`00:39.17`	`SC-phone`	`good enuff`
`00:39.20`	`toki`	`im still going`
`00:39.33`	`TheRedBaron`	`Toki and philosophising physicist`
`00:39.35`	`toki`	`it takes work, and time to reach the depths`
`00:39.40`	`toki`	`so`
`00:39.41`	`SC-phone`	`that was clear enuff for a lawyer :) ok me still listens`
`00:39.44`	`menotume`	`Tsunami !!!`
`00:39.48`	`toki`	`yes`
`00:39.57`	`toki`	`it is possible for an ocean to drown an continent`
`00:40.01`	`toki`	`very easy`
`00:40.25`	`TheRedBaron`	`menotume: concise, simple, yet encompassing a vast ideal and truism`
`00:40.27`	`anteater`	`is k still with us?`
`00:40.33`	`toki`	`TheRedBaron: did i miss any points?`
`00:40.38`	`TheRedBaron`	`nope nope`
`00:40.45`	`TheRedBaron`	`you hit every bulls-eye`
`00:40.49`	`toki`	`we still didnt get the cars into this one :(`
`00:40.54`	`toki`	`guess thats to advanced`
`00:40.58`	`SC-phone`	`heh`
`00:41.07`	`SC-phone`	`or too overused`
`00:41.10`	`toki`	`nah`
`00:41.11`	`TheRedBaron`	`me? I'm a pessimistic Idealist`
`00:41.13`	`toki`	`very apt`
`00:41.20`	`toki`	`but ill used`
`00:41.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`how useful is an ocean? in its entirety`
`00:41.46`	`SC-phone`	`but..u did not address how the ocean is to understand the continent`
`00:41.47`	`toki`	`TheRedBaron: many famous physicists became renouned phylosophers later in life`
`00:41.52`	`toki`	`oh`
`00:41.55`	`toki`	`how can i answer that?`
`00:41.59`	`kierra`	`may i remind you that were oceans long before continents....one big ocean`
`00:42.00`	`toki`	`i am standing on the continent`
`00:42.09`	`TheRedBaron`	`we are men, we are the continent`
`00:42.15`	`toki`	`how can i make a translation and stand in the ocean`
`00:42.19`	`TheRedBaron`	`our interaction extends to the shores and beach`
`00:42.28`	`TheRedBaron`	`the shallow and asthetically appealing`
`00:42.34`	`toki`	`is as far as we can venture`
`00:42.37`	`toki`	`and understand`
`00:43.14`	`TheRedBaron`	`kierra: may i remind you, that the ocean seperate the continent ;)`
`00:43.19`	`TheRedBaron`	`*seperated`
`00:43.43`	`kierra`	`in the beginning it was not so, trb`
`00:43.43`	`toki`	`TheRedBaron: good to see we are on the same page`
`00:43.52`	`kierra`	`only one vast ocean`
`00:43.58`	`toki`	`and one vast continent`
`00:44.00`	`TheRedBaron`	`exactly, and one vast continent`
`00:44.12`	`TheRedBaron`	`what broke up and seperated the continent? the ocean :)`
`00:44.17`	`toki`	`the system that these two entities forced the issue`
`00:44.24`	`SC-phone`	`kierra: remember - it's an analogy`
`00:44.32`	`toki`	`*these two entities exist in`
`00:44.33`	`toki`	`sry`
`00:44.34`	`kierra`	`the continent was submerged`
`00:44.35`	`toki`	`incomplete`
`00:44.38`	`toki`	`no`
`00:44.38`	`kierra`	`not in sight`
`00:44.49`	`kierra`	`true sc`
`00:44.52`	`TheRedBaron`	`sc-phone: but this is a brilliant and subservient analogy!`
`00:45.13`	`toki`	`sry!`
`00:45.18`	`kierra`	`how true`
`00:45.23`	`TheRedBaron`	`sc-phone: i do not know how I can say it better`
`00:45.27`	`toki`	`but its hard on this medium of comunication`
`00:45.28`	`SC-phone`	`trb: I think the analoy is good`
`00:45.31`	`TheRedBaron`	`but a women, is exactly like an ocean!`
`00:45.38`	`TheRedBaron`	`to men.`
`00:45.40`	`toki`	`from the male perspective`
`00:45.42`	`toki`	`yeas`
`00:45.45`	`SC-phone`	`just that it stoppedshort of our point/goal`
`00:45.53`	`orange`	`analogies are dangerous`
`00:45.58`	`toki`	`btw, what is the goal`
`00:45.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`The shallows, is there physical bodies`
`00:46.05`	`TheRedBaron`	`~lart orange`
`00:46.13`	`kierra`	`but if all you do is wade in the shallows you learn/experience very little of what is the true ocean`
`00:46.19`	`toki`	`yes`
`00:46.19`	`orange`	`people can always find a way to twist your analogy into something it isn't`
`00:46.23`	`TheRedBaron`	`what is seen by most, appreciated by most, captioned by most`
`00:46.38`	`kierra`	`is....?`
`00:46.40`	`toki`	`but it alowes for the movement into deeper parts`
`00:46.51`	`TheRedBaron`	`Orange: true, thats why one must be wise and choose a subjective and applicative analogy`
`00:46.56`	`TheRedBaron`	`but back to the ocean`
`00:46.59`	`SC-phone`	`toki: perhaps I was mistaken, but I thougt the goal was to understand how to communicate better & become better friends`
`00:47.01`	`toki`	`not every one will or can travel to the deeper parts of either continent or ocean`
`00:47.19`	`TheRedBaron`	`to say, that an ocean, is just composed of the shallows is very base and ignorant`
`00:47.24`	`toki`	`and we arent comunicating and becoming better friends?`
`00:47.25`	`toki`	`i am`
`00:47.26`	`kierra`	`then most men are shallow themselves if all they think/know/experience of women are the beaches.........`
`00:47.31`	`SC-phone`	`heh`
`00:47.37`	`TheRedBaron`	`kierra: no`
`00:47.39`	`toki`	`yes`
`00:47.42`	`toki`	`alot of men are`
`00:47.44`	`toki`	`your point?`
`00:47.51`	`toki`	`cant help our own biology`
`00:47.51`	`TheRedBaron`	`not women of the beaches...`
`00:48.01`	`kierra`	`that there is more to women than those shallow waters`
`00:48.06`	`toki`	`we know that`
`00:48.11`	`toki`	`and thats what we have been saying`
`00:48.13`	`TheRedBaron`	`To say that women is to be valued and appreciated based on physical appearances is equally base and ignorant`
`00:48.16`	`kierra`	`but you dont experience it`
`00:48.17`	`SC-phone`	`do men want OUT of the shallows? or are they too content ther?`
`00:48.26`	`TheRedBaron`	`depends on your man`
`00:48.27`	`kierra`	`hmmm`
`00:48.28`	`toki`	`how can we experience what it is to BE an woman`
`00:48.36`	`kierra`	`safer in the shallows`
`00:48.38`	`toki`	`nah`
`00:48.38`	`menotume`	`this is all too 'deep' for me`
`00:48.40`	`TheRedBaron`	`some men just go for the shallows, the waves of emotions, and frolick`
`00:48.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`~lart menotume`
`00:48.57`	`toki`	`however`
`00:48.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`but there is much much more to a women then that`
`00:49.02`	`toki`	`it is possible to venture deeper`
`00:49.05`	`TheRedBaron`	`there is the beauty and mystique of the deep`
`00:49.06`	`toki`	`for the brave man`
`00:49.17`	`TheRedBaron`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:49.17`	`toki`	`didnt we say that TrB?`
`00:49.21`	`kierra`	`most men aren't that brave, unfortunately`
`00:49.22`	`TheRedBaron`	`yes!`
`00:49.29`	`toki`	`well, some of us are.`
`00:49.35`	`toki`	`and it is good for both sides to remember that`
`00:49.47`	`TheRedBaron`	`Kierra; its not about men this time. its about how the ocean represents tangibly the ideal and whole persona of a women`
`00:49.50`	`kierra`	`no inference to be taken by present company`
`00:50.03`	`toki`	`and there are women that dare the wilds of the land`
`00:50.11`	`TheRedBaron`	`land being men`
`00:50.17`	`toki`	`thank you TrB`
`00:50.23`	`kierra`	`the wilds is right`
`00:50.36`	`TheRedBaron`	`But I am pessimistic in my idealism...`
`00:50.39`	`TheRedBaron`	`I see the ocean.`
`00:50.40`	`anteater`	`can we take 10 secs between messages so that i can read it? :-P`
`00:50.45`	`anteater`	`to fast to fast`
`00:50.46`	`SC-phone`	`I think my signal is fading`
`00:50.51`	`toki`	`~lart anteater`
`00:50.57`	`toki`	`ok, ill send you the logs then SC-phone`
`00:51.12`	`kierra`	`~dub`
`00:51.26`	`TheRedBaron`	`I see its raw power, beauty, mystique, life, waves, depths, everythign desirable about it`
`00:51.31`	`TheRedBaron`	`FORGET DUB!`
`00:51.32`	`Guu`	`I've never heard of DUB, TheRedBaron!`
`00:51.36`	`kierra`	`lol`
`00:51.37`	`kierra`	`sry`
`00:51.47`	`TheRedBaron`	`and women wonder why men never talk....`
`00:52.02`	`TheRedBaron`	`the minute we start on something worthwhile, they are changing the subject!`
`00:52.02`	`toki`	`getting hit by a wave and tossed back on shore hurts`
`00:52.20`	`TheRedBaron`	`being dragged along a sand bed is not desireable!`
`00:52.26`	`kierra`	`sry, just checking something`
`00:52.34`	`TheRedBaron`	`.....`
`00:52.42`	`toki`	`notice this:`
`00:52.51`	`toki`	`what wears a continent down`
`00:52.56`	`kierra`	`water`
`00:53.10`	`toki`	`water and wind`
`00:53.13`	`toki`	`the elements and`
`00:53.14`	`toki`	`....`
`00:53.21`	`SC-phone`	`ok, what builds a continent up?`
`00:53.23`	`kierra`	`the constant action of the waves, rivers running toward the ocean`
`00:53.31`	`SC-phone`	`what is ur volcano?`
`00:53.41`	`toki`	`our birth`
`00:53.47`	`TheRedBaron`	`sc-phone, emotions,`
`00:53.49`	`toki`	`out of the ocean`
`00:53.56`	`TheRedBaron`	`that too!`
`00:54.05`	`TheRedBaron`	`toki is right`
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`00:54.16`	`TheRedBaron`	`where are most volcano's found?`
`00:54.46`	`SC-phone`	`so if I understand, from birth onwards u r only worn down? never built up?`
`00:54.49`	`TheRedBaron`	`anteater likes hawaii`
`00:54.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`sc-phone, incorrect`
`00:55.04`	`kierra`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:55.05`	`SC-phone`	`restate`
`00:55.07`	`TheRedBaron`	`volcanos don't wear down`
`00:55.10`	`TheRedBaron`	`they build up`
`00:55.10`	`toki`	`thats a downside of the analogy, there is no water force that builds`
`00:55.16`	`toki`	`however`
`00:55.24`	`toki`	`we can state the existance of a building of the land`
`00:56.12`	`toki`	`however, cannot we, as men, build up women?`
`00:56.17`	`kierra`	`water is an eroding force`
`00:56.21`	`toki`	`yes`
`00:56.28`	`TheRedBaron`	`kierra: in one application yes`
`00:56.28`	`toki`	`so you have hit the end of the analogy`
`00:56.34`	`TheRedBaron`	`in another, it is life giving.`
`00:56.37`	`toki`	`yes`
`00:56.40`	`toki`	`thank you`
`00:56.50`	`kierra`	`i was going to make that poijnt`
`00:56.57`	`anteater`	`yes i do like hawaii :-D`
`00:56.59`	`toki`	`lol`
`00:57.01`	`kierra`	`i'm hungry`
`00:57.04`	`kierra`	`cu later`
`00:57.06`	`toki`	`bye`
`00:57.10`	`anteater`	`bye kierra`
`00:57.11`	`SC-phone`	`bye k`
`00:57.15`	`menotume`	`have some fish`
`00:57.16`	`toki`	`hey TrB, cna you get on aim for a bit?`
`00:57.16`	`kierra`	`bye`
`00:57.20`	`TheRedBaron`	`toki sure!`
`00:57.22`	`kierra`	`lol`
`00:57.30`	`kierra`	`not my tropical fish`
`00:57.35`	`toki`	`salmon!!`
`00:57.41`	`TheRedBaron`	`~lart menotume`
`00:57.47`	`toki`	`nice one`
`00:57.48`	`SC-phone`	`tok, taking the convo private?`
`00:57.55`	`toki`	`i have to ask TrB some thing`
`00:57.59`	`kierra`	`hmm, women feast on the fish of the ocean`
`00:58.04`	`kierra`	`sounds barbaric`
`00:58.08`	`toki`	`lol`
`00:58.12`	`toki`	`humans are barbaric`
`00:58.24`	`kierra`	`but without water, men would have no food`
`00:58.49`	`toki`	`yeah?`
`00:58.50`	`kierra`	`we are a life giving force for you :)`
`00:58.56`	`toki`	`(17:59:19) TheRedBaron: in another, it is life giving.`
`00:59.05`	`kierra`	`without us, you die`
`00:59.13`	`toki`	`with out you, we never existed`
`00:59.20`	`kierra`	`:)`
`00:59.28`	`toki`	`againL`
`00:59.29`	`SC-phone`	`ditto`
`00:59.29`	`toki`	`:`
`00:59.30`	`toki`	`(17:59:19) TheRedBaron: in another, it is life giving.`
`00:59.31`	`kierra`	`may i write that down`
`00:59.45`	`kierra`	`and quote you on that`
`00:59.50`	`toki`	`of course`
`00:59.54`	`toki`	`it is true`
`01:00.22`	`kierra`	`but women/ocean can exist without continents/land masses`
`01:00.24`	`toki`	`i would like to make a converse argument, but im not getting the inspiration`
`01:00.35`	`anteater`	`@>--->---`
`01:00.48`	`kierra`	`a rose, ant?`
`01:00.54`	`anteater`	`yes :-D`
`01:00.58`	`toki`	`excelent`
`01:01.01`	`kierra`	`why ty`
`01:01.08`	`anteater`	`uw`
`01:01.08`	`kierra`	`;)`
`01:01.20`	`TheRedBaron`	`kierra not so`
`01:01.32`	`TheRedBaron`	`we have the rivers and springs of life that feed the ocean.`
`01:01.51`	`toki`	`rain running off the continent keeps the ocean from drying up`
`01:01.51`	`TheRedBaron`	`with out them, the oceans would ammas to a giant dead sea`
`01:02.02`	`kierra`	`hmmmm`
`01:02.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`why is the dead sea what it is?`
`01:02.13`	`toki`	`nutrients that feed the ocean, come frome the land`
`01:02.16`	`TheRedBaron`	`because there is no flow out... only in, and evaporation.`
`01:02.16`	`kierra`	`i'm going to get something to eat`
`01:02.26`	`anteater`	`hmmm, i learned in my soils class that water has 7 special / unique things to it`
`01:02.35`	`TheRedBaron`	`do share anteater`
`01:02.50`	`anteater`	`universal solvent`
`01:03.05`	`anteater`	`found in a solid, gas, or liquid`
`01:03.17`	`anteater`	`and i will have to look up the others :-(`
`01:03.36`	`kierra`	`byez`
`01:03.39`	`toki`	`bye`
`01:03.51`	`anteater`	`did we just get spammed ?`
`01:03.55`	`toki`	`?`
`01:04.02`	`toki`	`nothing`
`01:04.04`	`toki`	`or`
`01:04.06`	`toki`	`every thing`
`01:04.09`	`toki`	`depends`
`01:04.35`	`SC-phone`	`on?`
`01:05.10`	`toki`	`well`
`01:05.25`	`toki`	`can you take how we guys look at you (girls) and use it for good and or evil?`
`01:05.27`	`toki`	`thats up to you`
`01:05.36`	`toki`	`i cant tell a girl how to use this`
`01:06.05`	`anteater`	`hello rb2`
`01:06.40`	`SC-phone`	`sigh... not sure that I was really asking...just pondering`
`01:06.49`	`toki`	`well, ponder away`
`01:06.54`	`RedBaron2`	`heh, hi`
`01:07.02`	`toki`	`you missed out rb2`
`01:07.12`	`SC-phone`	`out loud?! not sure i'm ready for that`
`01:07.19`	`RedBaron2`	`i'm sure i did..`
`01:07.22`	`SC-phone`	`rb2: hi`
`01:07.31`	`anteater`	`lol`
`01:07.42`	`SC-phone`	`yay finally on the 405`
`01:07.55`	`TheRedBaron`	`:-D`
`01:07.59`	`anteater`	`:-)`
`01:08.00`	`toki`	`hehe`
`01:08.04`	`toki`	`:)`
`01:09.00`	`SC-phone`	`toki: I guess i'm trying to relate this to our previous discussions`
`01:09.10`	`toki`	`i wonder how far we could take this ocean continent analogy`
`01:09.11`	`toki`	`oh!!`
`01:09.15`	`toki`	`i have a good point to add`
`01:09.23`	`toki`	`for chicky's benifit`
`01:09.30`	`SC-phone`	`uhoh`
`01:09.36`	`toki`	`here`
`01:09.52`	`toki`	`when we converse via online applications`
`01:09.58`	`toki`	`there is no shallow water interaction`
`01:10.03`	`toki`	`it is wilds to depths`
`01:10.23`	`toki`	`here`
`01:10.32`	`toki`	`we get strait to the meat of the matter`
`01:10.42`	`toki`	`which explaines why we all get so fussy on line`
`01:10.46`	`toki`	`especially on bz`
`01:10.56`	`TheRedBaron`	`for there is no asthetics in which to wallow in`
`01:11.05`	`toki`	`reference: the latest 2 flame wars over EK sportmanship and thanksgiving`
`01:11.14`	`toki`	`so its sink or swim`
`01:11.29`	`toki`	`and what happens when 2 oceans, or two continents collide`
`01:11.30`	`toki`	`?`
`01:11.43`	`toki`	`violent mixing`
`01:11.46`	`toki`	`or`
`01:11.49`	`toki`	`gentle meshing`
`01:11.58`	`toki`	`all depends`
`01:12.11`	`toki`	`what kind of rock, and relative depths of the water`
`01:12.11`	`SC-phone`	`k`
`01:13.42`	`toki`	`did you get that chicky?`
`01:14.00`	`SC-phone`	`no`
`01:14.06`	`anteater`	`llorar`
`01:14.15`	`toki`	`?`
`01:14.35`	`SC-phone`	`u have to reg the nick 1st`
`01:14.39`	`toki`	`meh`
`01:14.45`	`toki`	`ok, where do i go`
`01:14.51`	`anteater`	`llorar is cry`
`01:15.07`	`SC-phone`	`type /nickserv register toki pass`
`01:15.10`	`TheRedBaron`	`the internet strips away all visual aspects of relationships`
`01:15.35`	`TheRedBaron`	`in the world we have the asthetical beauty to suave over our deeps and roughs`
`01:15.36`	`toki`	`doesnt work`
`01:15.43`	`Death_Barrel`	`jbot, google`
`01:15.44`	`jbot`	`methinks google is a search engine found at http://www.google.com/`
`01:15.53`	`Death_Barrel`	`~google bzflag`
`01:16.03`	`SC-phone`	`so u r saying that male/female relationshiosppps don't work properly on the net`
`01:16.09`	`toki`	`they work to well`
`01:16.23`	`SC-phone`	`deathbarrel: u ere looking for me?`
`01:16.30`	`Death_Barrel`	`what happened to google?`
`01:16.38`	`toki`	`we skip the foreplay of the ascetic and go strait for the meat`
`01:16.54`	`toki`	`isnt that what girls want any wya?`
`01:17.03`	`SC-phone`	`db: ohhh duuno`
`01:17.05`	`toki`	`no obsession with the female looks, and only on thier mind?`
`01:17.12`	`SC-phone`	`well`
`01:17.30`	`toki`	`well?`
`01:17.35`	`Death_Barrel`	`toki: no, girls want you to look at them`
`01:17.45`	`Death_Barrel`	`they want you to stare at them`
`01:17.49`	`toki`	`reference, their short skirts`
`01:17.51`	`SC-phone`	`here's my thought onthat...too bad kierra isn't here to refute if necessary`
`01:17.53`	`toki`	`and flaunty ways at times`
`01:17.55`	`TheRedBaron`	`db, is that from experience?`
`01:18.00`	`toki`	`but i dont buy it`
`01:18.09`	`Death_Barrel`	`yes, they wear that sorta stuff to get noticed`
`01:18.12`	`toki`	`well`
`01:18.14`	`anteater`	`i disagree with the stare at them`
`01:18.21`	`Death_Barrel`	`yeah well maybe not stare`
`01:18.23`	`anteater`	`not all girls do`
`01:18.25`	`toki`	`if i do notice, then they dont respond`
`01:18.25`	`Death_Barrel`	`hehe`
`01:18.32`	`Death_Barrel`	`not all sure`
`01:18.41`	`toki`	`but regardless`
`01:18.54`	`toki`	`chicky is the one who can answer my original quiestion.. if she doesnt disconnect`
`01:18.58`	`SC-phone`	`women are, by definition, insecure. so, while they want u to get to know them & understand them (or at least try) they also need affirmatiob`
`01:19.09`	`Death_Barrel`	`if i ever get divorced....... i am going to go nuts`
`01:19.24`	`TheRedBaron`	`db, you aren't nuts already?`
`01:19.26`	`TheRedBaron`	`;)`
`01:19.32`	`SC-phone`	`sadly, to some degree db is rte...some women dress for attention`
`01:19.33`	`Death_Barrel`	`not like i used to be :D`
`01:19.54`	`Death_Barrel`	`i don't think its sad`
`01:19.59`	`RedBaron2`	`lol`
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`01:20.03`	`SC-phone`	`but the majority desire true affirmation as they`
`01:20.03`	`*** mode/#bzleague [+o kierra] by ChanServ`
`01:20.03`	`toki`	`DB, wife and kids too right?`
`01:20.04`	`anteater`	`wb k`
`01:20.06`	`Death_Barrel`	`women are beautiful, i enjoy it`
`01:20.15`	`TheRedBaron`	`exactly db`
`01:20.18`	`TheRedBaron`	`all men do`
`01:20.20`	`toki`	`wb kierra`
`01:20.21`	`SC-phone`	`are..that u really like them exactly as they are`
`01:20.22`	`Death_Barrel`	`yes`
`01:20.24`	`TheRedBaron`	`should they be in their right mind`
`01:20.31`	`Death_Barrel`	`except for the homosexuals`
`01:20.32`	`toki`	`right, i admit it to`
`01:20.34`	`toki`	`eh`
`01:20.37`	`TheRedBaron`	`but to stop and appreciate only that`
`01:20.42`	`TheRedBaron`	`is shallow, as we have said`
`01:20.51`	`kierra`	`hi`
`01:20.57`	`TheRedBaron`	`is to enjoy the shallows of the ocean, and miss out on rest of the depths`
`01:21.10`	`SC-phone`	`someone repeat what I sd for kierra`
`01:21.15`	`Death_Barrel`	`its only shallow if thats not what both are interested in`
`01:21.24`	`toki`	`(18:21:42) SC-phone: women are, by definition, insecure. so, while they want u to get to know them & understand them (or at least try) they also need affirmatiob`
`01:21.26`	`TheRedBaron`	`(20:30:10) SC-phone: women are, by definition, insecure. so, while they want u to get to know them & understand them (or at least try) they also need affirmatiob`
`01:21.34`	`toki`	`(18:22:16) SC-phone: sadly, to some degree db is rte...some women dress for attention`
`01:21.39`	`toki`	`(18:22:47) SC-phone: but the majority desire true affirmation as they`
`01:21.45`	`Death_Barrel`	`women want to be held, men want more`
`01:22.02`	`kierra`	`whoa, this really took a turn`
`01:22.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`death_barrel: by what assumption is that based on?`
`01:22.06`	`SC-phone`	`women desire to be loved...men to be respected`
`01:22.07`	`toki`	`i think DB is a very good counter and afferative point for our model`
`01:22.12`	`kierra`	`men always want more`
`01:22.17`	`TheRedBaron`	`i agree with toki.`
`01:22.24`	`kierra`	`sc is right`
`01:22.32`	`toki`	`in a way, i agree as well`
`01:23.01`	`SC-phone`	`toki: u agree with what`
`01:23.01`	`SC-phone`	`I got lost there`
`01:23.17`	`toki`	`i cant speak for TrB, but i need to state that chicky is to limited in her statement`
`01:23.27`	`toki`	`i dont only want respect`
`01:23.33`	`SC-phone`	`which 1?`
`01:23.36`	`SC-phone`	`oh`
`01:23.38`	`SC-phone`	`no`
`01:23.44`	`toki`	`infact`
`01:23.53`	`SC-phone`	`I said u NEED resoect`
`01:23.54`	`toki`	`i believe respect is a side effect of what i want`
`01:24.01`	`toki`	`nah`
`01:24.02`	`SC-phone`	`there is a difference`
`01:24.09`	`toki`	`iv lived without respect for a while`
`01:24.18`	`RedBaron2`	`lol`
`01:24.21`	`toki`	`iv even purposly soiled my rep`
`01:24.34`	`kierra`	`men desire respect, affirmation, and a couple of other things`
`01:24.36`	`toki`	`I can live with out repsect`
`01:24.37`	`TheRedBaron`	`keep going toki`
`01:24.52`	`TheRedBaron`	`Kierra: in a marriage perhaps...`
`01:24.56`	`Death_Barrel`	`most women want: to be held, secuirity (phisical & financial), they must always be right, and then need to have pink ribbons`
`01:24.56`	`kierra`	`not really, tok`
`01:25.11`	`toki`	`i would toss out my honor, any respect for me, and even my life`
`01:25.12`	`toki`	`for one thing`
`01:25.14`	`TheRedBaron`	`Death_barrel, correct`
`01:25.33`	`TheRedBaron`	`in some aspects`
`01:25.36`	`Death_Barrel`	`the most important thing is respect..... for me that is`
`01:25.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`ahah!`
`01:25.50`	`Death_Barrel`	`oh yeah, and obedience`
`01:25.52`	`Death_Barrel`	`:D`
`01:25.52`	`toki`	`all if i knew was that some girl would care if i left`
`01:25.54`	`SC-phone`	`toki: what?`
`01:25.56`	`toki`	`love then`
`01:25.57`	`TheRedBaron`	`would you not show it in return then?`
`01:26.00`	`anteater`	`how near are respect and love?`
`01:26.06`	`Death_Barrel`	`my woman better be obediant or else.....`
`01:26.15`	`toki`	`anteater: respect comes from love`
`01:26.16`	`anteater`	`can u have love w/out respect`
`01:26.17`	`TheRedBaron`	`i thought you were married?`
`01:26.24`	`TheRedBaron`	`anteater: i dont' think so`
`01:26.26`	`kierra`	`ai, DB`
`01:26.29`	`anteater`	`ty`
`01:26.32`	`Death_Barrel`	`lol was a joke`
`01:26.33`	`TheRedBaron`	`you can have respect without love, but not love without resopect`
`01:26.34`	`orange`	`you can have respect without love`
`01:26.35`	`TheRedBaron`	`*respect`
`01:26.39`	`toki`	`yes`
`01:26.49`	`SC-phone`	`db, submission (in proper context of course) is a part of respect`
`01:27.02`	`toki`	`you can have respect with out love, but not love with out respect`
`01:27.05`	`toki`	`not real love`
`01:27.09`	`kierra`	`you can be submissive without respect`
`01:27.13`	`toki`	`yes`
`01:27.25`	`kierra`	`like standing up on the inside but sitting on the outside`
`01:27.31`	`SC-phone`	`yes, but can u be respectfull w/o submission?`
`01:27.44`	`Death_Barrel`	`not fully`
`01:27.52`	`SC-phone`	`exactly`
`01:27.52`	`toki`	`you cant`
`01:28.14`	`toki`	`so you cant conversely change those statements with out changing the meaning`
`01:28.31`	`Death_Barrel`	`TheRedBaron, what you look for in a woman?`
`01:28.32`	`SC-phone`	`my thumbs hurt from all this typing`
`01:28.38`	`Death_Barrel`	`toki, what you look for in a woman?`
`01:28.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: One heck of a soap opera eh?`
`01:28.45`	`toki`	`my equal`
`01:28.52`	`toki`	`my mirror`
`01:28.56`	`Death_Barrel`	`and whats that?`
`01:28.58`	`toki`	`the person who can make me whole`
`01:29.09`	`TheRedBaron`	`Death_barrel: I'm a pessimistic idealist`
`01:29.18`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: this isn't soap opera`
`01:29.21`	`orange`	`not at all`
`01:29.33`	`orange`	`soap opera is pointless drama`
`01:29.36`	`SC-phone`	`but toki... don't u want someone who will complement u rather than be ur mirror image?`
`01:29.38`	`TheRedBaron`	`What would i look for is the more contextual question`
`01:29.41`	`Death_Barrel`	`orange, what you look for? these guys can't give me a straight answer`
`01:29.55`	`toki`	`TheRedBaron: its a philosophical discussion over an ageless argument`
`01:29.58`	`toki`	`im sorry chicky,`
`01:30.00`	`TheRedBaron`	`Death_barrel: I'll give you a straight answer, but not concise`
`01:30.02`	`toki`	`bad choice of words`
`01:30.19`	`SC-phone`	`np - just a q`
`01:30.19`	`orange`	`ah, my needs in a woman have changed with my life, but right now...`
`01:30.35`	`toki`	`rephrase:`
`01:30.35`	`toki`	`my equal, one who makes me whole`
`01:30.50`	`SC-phone`	`ok`
`01:30.53`	`SC-phone`	`but`
`01:31.20`	`SC-phone`	`if u are not whole w/o a woman how will u attract one?`
`01:31.24`	`orange`	`I'm looking for a partner in raising my kids, someone I can hang out with and talk to and laugh with, someone who shares my interests enough so we can do things together, but respects my need (and hers) for some time to ourselves`
`01:31.24`	`TheRedBaron`	`Death_Barrel: this is not to incriminate anyone... But sadly these days marriage is something that is devauled`
`01:31.30`	`Death_Barrel`	`i tell you what i would look for`
`01:31.33`	`toki`	`i am a whole person`
`01:31.44`	`toki`	`i am who i am, and can face my self in the mirror`
`01:31.45`	`TheRedBaron`	`1 sec phone... darn it`
`01:31.46`	`toki`	`however`
`01:31.53`	`toki`	`am i whole emotionally?`
`01:31.55`	`toki`	`not really`
`01:32.01`	`toki`	`no flip side`
`01:32.10`	`orange`	`someone who understands me and accepts me for who I am, without being afraid to help me improve myself`
`01:32.43`	`RedBaron2`	`yea..`
`01:32.59`	`orange`	`and a couple things that wouldn't be appropriate to discuss here, but can't be ignored in a marriage`
`01:33.13`	`toki`	`thats ok`
`01:33.54`	`Death_Barrel`	`basically i would look for fun classy woman to open doors, and a super freaky super freak behind closed doors`
`01:33.58`	`SC-phone`	`orange: she sounds like a great gal`
`01:34.09`	`Death_Barrel`	`yes she is`
`01:34.17`	`orange`	`SC-phone: yep, she is :-)`
`01:34.48`	`orange`	`Death_Barrel: well, that's a straight answer`
`01:34.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`toki needs to stay`
`01:34.57`	`toki`	`eh`
`01:35.02`	`SC-phone`	`yes toki`
`01:35.06`	`SC-phone`	`stay`
`01:35.09`	`toki`	`thought my part in this play was done`
`01:35.10`	`TheRedBaron`	`sc-phone: you'l understand why I"m a pessimistic idealist`
`01:35.11`	`orange`	`doesn't mean we don't have to work hard at our marriage`
`01:35.12`	`Death_Barrel`	`orange, yeah well thats what i wanted from you'all`
`01:35.15`	`Death_Barrel`	`ya'll`
`01:35.47`	`toki`	`brb 5 min for dinner then`
`01:35.51`	`SC-phone`	`walking down the aisle is the easy part... what comes after is hard`
`01:35.51`	`orange`	`anybody who thinks they'll find the "perfect match" and theen sail through marriage is dreaming`
`01:36.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: hence my pessimistic idealism`
`01:36.09`	`SC-phone`	`orangeak yes!`
`01:36.11`	`kierra`	`a good marriage is alot of work`
`01:36.25`	`orange`	`but, what we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly`
`01:37.02`	`kierra`	`beat me to it!`
`01:37.06`	`SC-phone`	`heh`
`01:37.16`	`SC-phone`	`qms`
`01:37.38`	`orange`	`kids bring an altogether new challenge to a relationship, and have changed ours dramatically... not worse, not better, just different`
`01:37.49`	`RedBaron2`	`anything gained easily, and the someone "can't wait for" is like that`
`01:38.08`	`RedBaron2`	`"Nothing is important to you, unless you're willing to wait for it. The longer you're willing to wait, the more value it has. Even though you don't like the wait, you're willing to wait because of its importance. Those who 'can't wait' often are just looking for 'the next thing' and don't really appreciate the full value of what they want."`
`01:38.08`	`RedBaron2`	`-Wes Tarlon-`
`01:38.35`	`SC-phone`	`ah good`
`01:38.49`	`RedBaron2`	`i guess you could take "wait" and substitute it for "work"`
`01:38.52`	`RedBaron2`	`as well`
`01:38.57`	`SC-phone`	`yay 66 out now...almost home`
`01:39.15`	`orange`	`nice quote`
`01:39.16`	`SC-phone`	`(f)`
`01:39.21`	`RedBaron2`	`thx orange`
`01:39.52`	`TheRedBaron`	`Death_barrel: a women willing to raise kids, lots of kids, appreciate who I am, but respectfully refine me. Who has a taste for the daring, and adventuresome.`
`01:39.52`	`RedBaron2`	`oops that would be "Wolf Tarlon"..my bad`
`01:40.21`	`Death_Barrel`	`there u go, thats what i was lookin fore`
`01:40.39`	`SC-phone`	`well put, trb`
`01:40.56`	`TheRedBaron`	`but to me, that is an oversimplification, does no justice to marriage, and speaks of a selfishness...`
`01:41.10`	`orange`	`we're all selfish... you have to be`
`01:41.14`	`RedBaron2`	`hehe`
`01:41.17`	`TheRedBaron`	`To me, I would want a women, who above All I can cherish...`
`01:41.20`	`orange`	`and it's OK, unless you forget to give, too`
`01:41.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`to almost grovel at her feet, TO hold her in such high esteem that life itself is worth laying down for`
`01:42.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`To selflessly worship her. To revel in her beauty`
`01:42.20`	`TheRedBaron`	`And all in all, still retain an aspect of humanity, to remain my wife.`
`01:42.28`	`TheRedBaron`	`But to find such and Ideal?`
`01:42.33`	`TheRedBaron`	`Good luck!`
`01:42.52`	`TheRedBaron`	`They are merely the by-products of an overt aspiring teenager.`
`01:43.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`The dreams and whims, driven by a hormonal young man.`
`01:43.14`	`Death_Barrel`	`yeah good luck when you sit on irc all day long`
`01:43.15`	`Death_Barrel`	`lol`
`01:43.16`	`TheRedBaron`	`That should they attempt to take flight, will crash in the test of reality`
`01:43.19`	`SC-phone`	`gah, I have to drive th rest of the way`
`01:43.26`	`orange`	`be safe, sc`
`01:43.30`	`SC-phone`	`bye`
`01:43.31`	`TheRedBaron`	`There is your pessimisted idealism`
`01:43.34`	`SC-phone`	`cya soon`
`01:43.34`	`RedBaron2`	`cya SC`
`01:43.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`Death_Barrel: hmm everytime I log on, you are here :)`
`01:43.51`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: this is what young love is for... to learn about the crashes in safety`
`01:43.52`	`Death_Barrel`	`hey, i am married buddy`
`01:43.54`	`TheRedBaron`	`I"m usually on only tuesday and thursday's morning`
`01:43.54`	`Death_Barrel`	`lol`
`01:44.14`	`orange`	`incidentally, that's what always worried me about your_dog`
`01:44.15`	`TheRedBaron`	`Orange: perhaps`
`01:44.26`	`orange`	`he never really had any failures`
`01:44.45`	`Death_Barrel`	`i am married i don't need to be out looking`
`01:44.55`	`TheRedBaron`	`death_Barrel, I'm 19, nor do I need to be looking`
`01:45.14`	`orange`	`not looking? You're supposed to be practicing right now!`
`01:45.15`	`Death_Barrel`	`you need to be out there chasin as much tail as you can at 19`
`01:45.26`	`RedBaron2`	`lol`
`01:45.34`	`TheRedBaron`	`ha!`
`01:45.42`	`TheRedBaron`	`a set up of disaster...`
`01:45.47`	`Death_Barrel`	`you need to get used to dissapointment, cause life is full of it`
`01:45.56`	`TheRedBaron`	`Death_barrel: i know it is`
`01:45.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`Life is ugly`
`01:46.08`	`orange`	`nonsense`
`01:46.09`	`TheRedBaron`	`don't feed my pessimism.`
`01:46.19`	`Death_Barrel`	`~dict pessimism`
`01:46.31`	`Death_Barrel`	`19yr olds shouldn't be using that language either`
`01:46.38`	`TheRedBaron`	`its called an education`
`01:46.38`	`orange`	`on the contrary, without the bad times we wouldn't appreciate the good... that's why rich people who have always been rich never appreciate what they have`
`01:46.40`	`anteater`	`bye bbl`
`01:46.43`	`*** part/#bzleague anteater (n=Jonathan@pcp0010274111pcs.bbridg01.fl.comcast.net)`
`01:47.08`	`TheRedBaron`	`if you ask me, my language is what sets me apart from my peers`
`01:47.49`	`TheRedBaron`	`the throng at the official forums, that are disdained for their internet chat lingo, and incoherent ideas...`
`01:48.01`	`TheRedBaron`	`they are my age, yet I have no association with them.`
`01:48.24`	`TheRedBaron`	`now, at 19 young years, is my time of preparation`
`01:48.35`	`Death_Barrel`	`was a joke...... slow down boei`
`01:48.42`	`Death_Barrel`	`yeeeeeeeeeee dog`
`01:48.50`	`Death_Barrel`	`~dict yeeeeeeeeeeee dog`
`01:48.57`	`TheRedBaron`	`I do not belive or condone that part of it should be spent chasing "tail"`
`01:49.29`	`Death_Barrel`	`chasin tail is all about dissapointment`
`01:49.41`	`TheRedBaron`	`Or in another sense`
`01:49.57`	`TheRedBaron`	`gluttony for dissapointment,`
`01:50.05`	`TheRedBaron`	`as in a glutton for punishment.`
`01:50.22`	`Death_Barrel`	`that your fetish?`
`01:50.26`	`TheRedBaron`	`bah`
`01:50.29`	`TheRedBaron`	`far from it`
`01:50.30`	`Death_Barrel`	`punishment fetish?`
`01:50.31`	`Death_Barrel`	`lol`
`01:51.05`	`TheRedBaron`	`honestly ask yourself death_barrel: what would you have your 19yo son doing?`
`01:51.16`	`Death_Barrel`	`chasin tail`
`01:51.23`	`*** join/#bzleague _bubbles_ (i=nicole@toronto-HSE-ppp4266295.sympatico.ca)`
`01:51.23`	`*** mode/#bzleague [+v _bubbles_] by ChanServ`
`01:51.28`	`TheRedBaron`	`what will he grow up to be?`
`01:51.31`	`Death_Barrel`	`i woulnd't think he is normal if he didn't`
`01:51.38`	`Death_Barrel`	`a man`
`01:51.49`	`RedBaron2`	`hi nic nic`
`01:51.52`	`TheRedBaron`	`so a man is defined by how much he is laid?`
`01:52.04`	`orange`	`poor nicole, what a place to join a conversation`
`01:52.14`	`Death_Barrel`	`hey hey, chasin tail doesn't always mean getting laid`
`01:52.18`	`_bubbles_`	`heh`
`01:52.20`	`TheRedBaron`	`its the motive`
`01:52.22`	`_bubbles_`	`hey peepz`
`01:52.24`	`kierra`	`me thinks I'll check out aim`
`01:52.30`	`Death_Barrel`	`sure it is`
`01:52.45`	`TheRedBaron`	`so if you trace it down to the motive, it still is sex...`
`01:53.02`	`TheRedBaron`	`what a base definition of a man!`
`01:53.06`	`Death_Barrel`	`sex is a beautiful thing-a-mabob`
`01:53.12`	`TheRedBaron`	`oh heck yes!`
`01:53.17`	`Death_Barrel`	`~dict man`
`01:53.22`	`TheRedBaron`	`But if that is what you define a man by...`
`01:53.33`	`TheRedBaron`	`a man in the sense of maturity...`
`01:53.40`	`TheRedBaron`	`we are no better off than the animals!!`
`01:53.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`we are animals!`
`01:53.52`	`Death_Barrel`	`yes`
`01:53.54`	`TheRedBaron`	`vile reproducing parasites!`
`01:53.56`	`Death_Barrel`	`affermative`
`01:54.14`	`TheRedBaron`	`no wonder we have a world that condones killing unborn children`
`01:54.23`	`TheRedBaron`	`no wonder we have planes crashing into towers`
`01:54.25`	`Death_Barrel`	`i don't condone that`
`01:54.33`	`TheRedBaron`	`but we are animals!`
`01:54.35`	`TheRedBaron`	`animals do that!`
`01:54.37`	`Death_Barrel`	`i don't condone that either`
`01:54.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`but we are animals!`
`01:54.51`	`TheRedBaron`	`animals are cannablistic!`
`01:54.52`	`Death_Barrel`	`terrorist animals do that`
`01:54.58`	`TheRedBaron`	`no...`
`01:55.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`its called survival of the fittest`
`01:55.04`	`Death_Barrel`	`i don't eat other people`
`01:55.17`	`TheRedBaron`	`it is what hitler based his philosphy off of`
`01:55.25`	`Death_Barrel`	`crashing into towers........ killing unborn children....... is not suvervival of the fittest`
`01:55.28`	`TheRedBaron`	`we are all animals! by your definition you have condoned those acts`
`01:55.39`	`TheRedBaron`	`how fit are unborn children?`
`01:55.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`can they survive?`
`01:55.50`	`Death_Barrel`	`how fit our towers?`
`01:56.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`those are inanimate objects`
`01:56.05`	`TheRedBaron`	`they have no life`
`01:56.15`	`TheRedBaron`	`you cannot ask that question`
`01:56.18`	`Death_Barrel`	`there is life in everything`
`01:56.24`	`Death_Barrel`	`besides ashe`
`01:56.26`	`TheRedBaron`	`how so?`
`01:56.33`	`TheRedBaron`	`no life in ash? how so?`
`01:56.53`	`Death_Barrel`	`ash is the most purest substance`
`01:57.03`	`Death_Barrel`	`ash creates life`
`01:57.28`	`TheRedBaron`	`If! we are defined by the act of sex... as you said we are, how then do we differ from animals?`
`01:57.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`To deny any distinction between us and animals is to side with lunacy`
`01:58.11`	`Death_Barrel`	`hmmmm all i said was that sex was a beautiful thing`
`01:58.17`	`TheRedBaron`	`thats not all you said`
`01:58.34`	`Death_Barrel`	`there are plenty of distinctions between animals`
`01:58.38`	`TheRedBaron`	`you said men were defined by sex`
`01:58.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`the act of sex`
`01:58.47`	`Death_Barrel`	`where i say that?`
`01:58.53`	`Death_Barrel`	`please paste it here`
`01:58.55`	`Death_Barrel`	`lol`
`01:59.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:02:39) TheRedBaron: what will he grow up to be?`
`01:59.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:02:43) Death_Barrel: i woulnd't think he is normal if he didn't`
`01:59.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:02:49) Death_Barrel: a man`
`01:59.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:03:03) TheRedBaron: so a man is defined by how much he is laid?`
`01:59.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:03:26) Death_Barrel: hey hey, chasin tail doesn't always mean getting laid`
`01:59.54`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:03:32) TheRedBaron: its the motive`
`01:59.56`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:03:42) Death_Barrel: sure it is`
`01:59.58`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:03:56) TheRedBaron: so if you trace it down to the motive, it still is sex...`
`02:00.03`	`Death_Barrel`	`what i said was that i would rather my son be out chasin tail..... what i ment was i would perfer that much more than him out chasin drugs, or booze, or failure`
`02:00.24`	`Death_Barrel`	`you asked me what he would grow up to be, and i said "a man"`
`02:00.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`exactly, a man out of chasing tail.`
`02:00.59`	`Death_Barrel`	`and getting laid is a motive to chase tail, but i didn't say we were defined by sex`
`02:01.04`	`Death_Barrel`	`no`
`02:01.06`	`Death_Barrel`	`a man period`
`02:01.13`	`Death_Barrel`	`cause thats what he would be`
`02:01.19`	`Death_Barrel`	`is** going to be`
`02:01.23`	`TheRedBaron`	`You didn't say it, but you implied it, and didn't think of the underlying causes`
`02:01.47`	`Death_Barrel`	`you you asked what he would be, and i said a man...... is he not going to become a man?`
`02:01.49`	`TheRedBaron`	`bah, unless your michael jackson... any 19year old male when he is 40 will still be male,`
`02:02.10`	`TheRedBaron`	`I asked what he would be... why type of man? what would be his persona?`
`02:02.20`	`Death_Barrel`	`you didn't say what type`
`02:02.26`	`Death_Barrel`	`nore persona`
`02:02.31`	`TheRedBaron`	`Because you cannot sterotype`
`02:02.43`	`Death_Barrel`	`a man is a man`
`02:02.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`in a world of 6billion people there is no 1 man`
`02:02.50`	`Death_Barrel`	`no sterotype there`
`02:02.57`	`TheRedBaron`	`man is a man, is a male`
`02:03.00`	`TheRedBaron`	`that is the truth...`
`02:03.16`	`TheRedBaron`	`clearly, there is the lost ideal of maturity, what a man stands for and what he is!`
`02:03.29`	`TheRedBaron`	`what kind of man will he be?`
`02:03.46`	`Death_Barrel`	`thats for him to figure out`
`02:03.52`	`Death_Barrel`	`i can't read the future`
`02:04.25`	`Death_Barrel`	`i can only hope he will be a good man, a man that is good in the eyes of our american society`
`02:04.35`	`TheRedBaron`	`hope...`
`02:04.40`	`Death_Barrel`	`yes hope`
`02:04.52`	`TheRedBaron`	`to me and my pessimism...`
`02:04.58`	`TheRedBaron`	`why bother, if we can only hope?`
`02:05.15`	`orange`	`because we can't control our children`
`02:05.22`	`TheRedBaron`	`not true.`
`02:05.23`	`orange`	`we can only guide and then hope`
`02:05.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`I know I am a by-product of what my parents have raised me by.`
`02:05.43`	`Death_Barrel`	`correct orange`
`02:05.53`	`Death_Barrel`	`TheRedBaron, that can't control you though`
`02:05.56`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: of course, they guided you well`
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`02:06.01`	`TheRedBaron`	`Death_Barrel: it does`
`02:06.02`	`orange`	`but ultimately YOU are in control of you`
`02:06.06`	`Death_Barrel`	`yes`
`02:06.21`	`TheRedBaron`	`oh I am in control, But i have parameters i dare not cross`
`02:06.26`	`Death_Barrel`	`so if you get into troulbe, its your parents fault? and you would blame them for your actions?`
`02:06.29`	`TheRedBaron`	`An acute sense of morality i dare not disregard`
`02:06.31`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: it's always your decision`
`02:06.40`	`orange`	`guide and hope`
`02:06.42`	`Death_Barrel`	`TheRedBaron, you dare not cross them, but you could`
`02:06.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`I'm not rationalizing away personal responsibility`
`02:06.58`	`Death_Barrel`	`yeah you are`
`02:07.09`	`Death_Barrel`	`if you are not in control of you then you are not a man`
`02:07.33`	`Death_Barrel`	`you would, basically be a computer`
`02:07.39`	`TheRedBaron`	`Death_Barrel: slowly, you are reaching my original point`
`02:07.47`	`TheRedBaron`	`you yourself just defined an aspect of a man.`
`02:07.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`when I asked you what kind of a man you son would be.`
`02:08.02`	`Death_Barrel`	`bah bah bah, i'm confused`
`02:08.09`	`TheRedBaron`	`oh joy`
`02:08.14`	`Death_Barrel`	`i said i can only hope...........`
`02:08.36`	`Death_Barrel`	`w/o hope...... what do you look foward too?`
`02:08.39`	`TheRedBaron`	`Orange: Ultimately we are responsible, and in control of ourselves`
`02:09.04`	`Death_Barrel`	`not ultimately............ totally`
`02:09.15`	`TheRedBaron`	`totally in what?`
`02:09.27`	`anteater`	`~dict lost`
`02:09.28`	`TheRedBaron`	`in what sense,and jursidiction ?`
`02:09.37`	`Death_Barrel`	`you are totally in control of what you do`
`02:09.45`	`TheRedBaron`	`:)`
`02:09.46`	`Death_Barrel`	`explain why you would think otherwise?`
`02:10.05`	`TheRedBaron`	`I haven't`
`02:10.13`	`Death_Barrel`	`i know`
`02:10.16`	`Death_Barrel`	`please do`
`02:10.23`	`TheRedBaron`	`no, not that`
`02:10.26`	`Death_Barrel`	`ah`
`02:10.27`	`TheRedBaron`	`I haven't thought otherwise`
`02:10.40`	`Death_Barrel`	`so then what we talking about then?`
`02:10.56`	`Death_Barrel`	`if you don't like women just say so! sheesh`
`02:10.57`	`RedBaron2`	`lol`
`02:11.13`	`TheRedBaron`	`to hypothetically discuss what i might and might not do, is not plausible`
`02:11.24`	`TheRedBaron`	`when it comes to the sense of children raising their parents`
`02:11.31`	`TheRedBaron`	`bah`
`02:11.36`	`anteater`	`inconceivable`
`02:11.37`	`TheRedBaron`	`parents raisign their children`
`02:11.49`	`TheRedBaron`	`i'm midly dyslexic ;-)`
`02:11.57`	`TheRedBaron`	`j/k`
`02:12.06`	`TheRedBaron`	`*mildly`
`02:12.12`	`Death_Barrel`	`TheRedBaron, you have got to be one of the very few guys i know that if i told them they need to chase some tail, they argued with me and told me no`
`02:12.15`	`Death_Barrel`	`lol`
`02:12.17`	`anteater`	`i just wanted to say inconceivable`
`02:12.37`	`anteater`	`i would be on the side with baron`
`02:12.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`Death_barrel: (21:17:32) TheRedBaron: oh I am in control, But i have parameters i dare not cross`
`02:12.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:17:37) Death_Barrel: so if you get into troulbe, its your parents fault? and you would blame them for your actions?`
`02:12.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:17:40) TheRedBaron: An acute sense of morality i dare not disregard`
`02:13.07`	`Death_Barrel`	`yeah but you could`
`02:13.16`	`TheRedBaron`	`but thats inplausible`
`02:13.30`	`orange`	`not at all`
`02:13.31`	`TheRedBaron`	`I also have the possibility of being a murderer...`
`02:13.32`	`Death_Barrel`	`its probable`
`02:13.38`	`Death_Barrel`	`happens every day`
`02:13.46`	`Death_Barrel`	`all over the world`
`02:13.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`its inplausible to make points of probability`
`02:13.53`	`orange`	`I doubt there is a single person out there who hasn't made a huge mistake of some kind`
`02:13.58`	`TheRedBaron`	`it is illogical`
`02:14.01`	`orange`	`a mistake that their parents told them not to make`
`02:14.07`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange who hasn't>`
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`02:14.32`	`TheRedBaron`	`but due to my nature of being raised... chasing tail is not a probility for me.`
`02:14.35`	`Death_Barrel`	`its not illogical at all`
`02:14.39`	`TheRedBaron`	`is to`
`02:14.43`	`Death_Barrel`	`not at all`
`02:14.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`why not?`
`02:14.49`	`orange`	`err, I didn't know that's what we were talking about`
`02:15.23`	`TheRedBaron`	`I'm saying to base your logic and arguement on the probability of some on doing something is not wise`
`02:15.30`	`orange`	`I never said you would go totally against your nature, I was simply saying that your parents, for all their hard work, do not control you to prevent you from doing so`
`02:15.31`	`TheRedBaron`	`I'm basing mine off knowing what I won't do.`
`02:15.37`	`Death_Barrel`	`orange, yeah, basically told him he should be off of irc and chasin tail, and then he sparked up this convo`
`02:15.54`	`Death_Barrel`	`brb phone`
`02:15.55`	`orange`	`oh, I heard that part, but I was just talking about parents controlling children`
`02:15.58`	`orange`	`they don't`
`02:16.01`	`orange`	`they guide`
`02:16.13`	`orange`	`and the skill of guiding determines probability of success`
`02:16.18`	`orange`	`it does not give control`
`02:16.20`	`TheRedBaron`	`Define success`
`02:16.37`	`orange`	`success... having a child who turns out like you hope he/she will :-)`
`02:16.56`	`TheRedBaron`	`there is a proverb: train up a child in the way he will go, and when he is old, he shall not depart from it.`
`02:17.25`	`anteater`	`lol`
`02:17.40`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: nice theory, not very practical`
`02:17.45`	`orange`	`that doesn't mean it is futile to try`
`02:17.46`	`TheRedBaron`	`ahh...`
`02:17.55`	`orange`	`but anyone who believes they truly control their children is lying to themselves`
`02:17.58`	`TheRedBaron`	`what theory? the proverb or?`
`02:18.06`	`TheRedBaron`	`my discussion?`
`02:18.09`	`orange`	`the proverb`
`02:18.22`	`anteater`	`hmmm`
`02:18.26`	`TheRedBaron`	`how is it not practical?`
`02:18.40`	`orange`	`ah, very simple`
`02:18.43`	`orange`	`it speaks in absolutes`
`02:18.48`	`orange`	`a very dangerous thing`
`02:18.50`	`TheRedBaron`	`if you guide them down the road would they not follow it?`
`02:18.55`	`TheRedBaron`	`absolutes are not dangerous...`
`02:18.56`	`Death_Barrel`	`TheRedBaron, have some kids then we can have this discussion`
`02:18.57`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: you HOPE they will`
`02:18.59`	`Death_Barrel`	`lol`
`02:19.05`	`TheRedBaron`	`Without them, what would we have?`
`02:19.09`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: oh, no, absolutes are quite dangerous`
`02:19.18`	`TheRedBaron`	`I beg to differ`
`02:19.25`	`TheRedBaron`	`is that not an absolute statement?`
`02:19.27`	`orange`	`absolutes are ALWAYS dangerous :-)`
`02:19.34`	`orange`	`no, but that was :-)`
`02:19.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`so its dangerous eh?`
`02:19.52`	`TheRedBaron`	`rather illogical and self-defeating`
`02:20.10`	`orange`	`eh?`
`02:20.30`	`TheRedBaron`	`to say absolutes are dangerous`
`02:20.37`	`TheRedBaron`	`if so, we wouldn't have any`
`02:20.47`	`orange`	`we don't have any`
`02:20.54`	`TheRedBaron`	`are you absolutely sure?`
`02:20.58`	`anteater`	`death`
`02:21.14`	`orange`	`anteater: don't be so sure`
`02:21.20`	`anteater`	`i am not`
`02:21.21`	`TheRedBaron`	`by saying we have no absolutes, is making an absoluet statement in and of itself`
`02:21.33`	`orange`	`yes, but that's just a semantic game`
`02:21.39`	`orange`	`it misses the point`
`02:21.40`	`anteater`	`was going to look up the word absolute`
`02:21.41`	`TheRedBaron`	`you're making it`
`02:21.54`	`TheRedBaron`	`does not miss any point, but the point of logic`
`02:22.05`	`TheRedBaron`	`How can you know there are now absolutes?`
`02:22.11`	`TheRedBaron`	`*no`
`02:22.32`	`TheRedBaron`	`*know`
`02:22.33`	`orange`	`because I don't believe that is the nature of man`
`02:22.46`	`TheRedBaron`	`to have absolutes?`
`02:22.53`	`orange`	`correct`
`02:22.56`	`TheRedBaron`	`what about the absolutes of morality?`
`02:23.09`	`orange`	`hehe, those are some of the least absolute of all`
`02:23.13`	`TheRedBaron`	`if there are no absolute principles, everything is figurative`
`02:23.18`	`TheRedBaron`	`whimful`
`02:23.23`	`TheRedBaron`	`to each his own!`
`02:23.39`	`orange`	`you believe in absolutes in morality?`
`02:23.41`	`TheRedBaron`	`but if there are some absolutes...?`
`02:23.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`I do`
`02:23.48`	`orange`	`name one`
`02:23.55`	`Death_Barrel`	`hell, these days death may not be so absolute in the near future`
`02:23.56`	`orange`	`a practical one`
`02:23.57`	`TheRedBaron`	`Sanctity of life`
`02:24.13`	`TheRedBaron`	`Right and wrong`
`02:24.16`	`TheRedBaron`	`Life and death`
`02:24.19`	`anteater`	`~dict absolute`
`02:24.24`	`orange`	`OK, TRB, you have a 2-year old son and man is about to kill him, the only way to stop him is to kill the man`
`02:24.24`	`Death_Barrel`	`would any of you like to discuss this with arnold on TeamSpeak?`
`02:24.24`	`TheRedBaron`	`laws, Morals`
`02:24.36`	`orange`	`what do you do?`
`02:24.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`the absolute of responsibility`
`02:24.57`	`TheRedBaron`	`who am I responsible for in the situation?`
`02:25.03`	`anteater`	`son`
`02:25.05`	`Death_Barrel`	`you take a blow torch and a pair of pliars to the guys groin`
`02:25.13`	`orange`	`sanctity of life is the only practical one you have brought up, trb, the rest are general terms`
`02:25.14`	`TheRedBaron`	`who is under my jurisdiction, to protect, defend, cherish and love?`
`02:25.19`	`Death_Barrel`	`save your son`
`02:25.24`	`TheRedBaron`	`general terms?`
`02:25.25`	`orange`	`you said the sanctity of life is absolute`
`02:25.36`	`TheRedBaron`	`right and wrong are general terms and up to deliberation?`
`02:25.43`	`orange`	`of course they are`
`02:25.46`	`TheRedBaron`	`great heavens!`
`02:25.56`	`TheRedBaron`	`what if i deliberate that its right for me to kill your son?`
`02:26.09`	`Death_Barrel`	`as long as we live in america they are up for deliberation`
`02:26.13`	`orange`	`what if you knew that killing my son would save 100 people?`
`02:26.29`	`TheRedBaron`	`why do you think the taliban crashed and killed thousands of americans?`
`02:26.46`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: what about personal responsibility?`
`02:26.46`	`orange`	`however, I would like to know what you're doing about that man after your son right now`
`02:26.54`	`Death_Barrel`	`because of jihad`
`02:27.04`	`TheRedBaron`	`Orange: the outcome should have been clear.`
`02:27.15`	`orange`	`it isn't... the sanctity of life is absolute, right?`
`02:27.24`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange yes`
`02:27.24`	`orange`	`there is no clear answer in that light`
`02:27.33`	`TheRedBaron`	`Sanctity of life, how do we define it and value it?`
`02:27.38`	`TheRedBaron`	`Life is worth a life.`
`02:27.47`	`TheRedBaron`	`We can only value it by another life`
`02:27.57`	`TheRedBaron`	`hence we are all created equal, in our american constitution`
`02:28.06`	`orange`	`ok, two men are coming at your son to kill them, and you have to kill them both`
`02:28.09`	`orange`	`two lives for one`
`02:28.14`	`orange`	`do the scales balance?`
`02:28.17`	`Death_Barrel`	`TheRedBaron, you must live first before you can be so sure of what you are saying`
`02:28.23`	`TheRedBaron`	`again I ask you, what is my personal responsibility?`
`02:28.39`	`orange`	`according to you, one of your responsibilities is the absolute sanctity of life`
`02:28.40`	`TheRedBaron`	`to weigh the universal scales of men?`
`02:28.45`	`anteater`	`~dub`
`02:28.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`no, according to me and that situation...`
`02:28.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`my responsibility is to my son`
`02:29.04`	`TheRedBaron`	`not those 2 other men`
`02:29.05`	`orange`	`so you kill two men to save one?`
`02:29.14`	`Death_Barrel`	`with pleasure`
`02:29.16`	`TheRedBaron`	`yes.`
`02:29.16`	`orange`	`and therefore the sanctity of life is not absolute`
`02:29.24`	`orange`	`qed`
`02:29.26`	`TheRedBaron`	`but it is.`
`02:29.30`	`TheRedBaron`	`you fail to realise it`
`02:29.34`	`TheRedBaron`	`that a life is worth a life`
`02:29.42`	`TheRedBaron`	`Where did life come from?`
`02:29.45`	`orange`	`you're judging which life is more important`
`02:29.52`	`Death_Barrel`	`life comes from other life`
`02:29.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`no, I"m judging what is my personal responsibility`
`02:30.06`	`orange`	`who are we to judge? The sanctity of life being ABSOLUTE leaves no room for such judgment`
`02:30.43`	`Death_Barrel`	`supermassive black holes are the creator of all life`
`02:30.57`	`TheRedBaron`	`then we have an irrational illogical, incomprhensible law, constitution, and way of life`
`02:31.19`	`TheRedBaron`	`what about the absolute of justice?`
`02:31.20`	`orange`	`the point is that the sanctity of life can't be absolute, like all moral judgments`
`02:31.27`	`orange`	`justice?`
`02:31.34`	`orange`	`one man's justice is another man's injustice`
`02:31.35`	`Death_Barrel`	`not only are they the most pure form of distruction, but they are also the most pure form of creation of life`
`02:31.47`	`orange`	`it's all a matter of perspective`
`02:32.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: how can you say that?`
`02:32.08`	`orange`	`do the jihadists believe they are doing wrong? From their perspective they are morally beyond reproach.`
`02:32.12`	`TheRedBaron`	`how can we condemn and jail other men?`
`02:32.16`	`TheRedBaron`	`how can we have law?`
`02:32.18`	`TheRedBaron`	`order?`
`02:32.19`	`TheRedBaron`	`morality?`
`02:32.20`	`Death_Barrel`	`lol TheRedBaron seriously man, you should think about the possibility of getting laid, please man, its for your health`
`02:32.21`	`TheRedBaron`	`right?`
`02:32.22`	`TheRedBaron`	`wrong?`
`02:32.35`	`TheRedBaron`	`Death_barrel: i'm waiting for the wedding night :)`
`02:32.44`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: how can the supreme court have split decisions if justice is absolute?`
`02:32.53`	`Death_Barrel`	`TheRedBaron, why would you do that?`
`02:33.01`	`TheRedBaron`	`....`
`02:33.13`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange you're clouding it`
`02:33.36`	`orange`	`not at all, I'm arguing that there are no absolute morals`
`02:33.38`	`TheRedBaron`	`You're the one that says its all a matter of opinion and perspective in a world of 6 billion differing opinions perspectives`
`02:33.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`if there are no absolutes`
`02:33.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`what have we left?`
`02:33.53`	`Death_Barrel`	`waithope`
`02:33.55`	`TheRedBaron`	`there is nothing determinable!`
`02:33.56`	`Death_Barrel`	`hope`
`02:33.58`	`TheRedBaron`	`we hope in vain!`
`02:34.07`	`orange`	`nonsense, we do the best we can`
`02:34.10`	`TheRedBaron`	`life is worthless! unfit for living and dying`
`02:34.12`	`orange`	`that's all we can do`
`02:34.17`	`TheRedBaron`	`for there are no absolutes!`
`02:34.21`	`orange`	`we are imperfect, but strive for the best in our own way`
`02:34.22`	`TheRedBaron`	`we are animals all of us`
`02:34.37`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: as do the animals`
`02:34.45`	`TheRedBaron`	`they strive for the best, in their own way`
`02:34.46`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: ever heard of justifiable homicide?`
`02:34.51`	`anteater`	`orange did u say no absolute morals? so u are not arguing that there are no absolutes?`
`02:34.55`	`TheRedBaron`	`of course`
`02:35.06`	`orange`	`anteater: I think I got lost in the double negatives :-)`
`02:35.16`	`TheRedBaron`	`double negatives equals a postive`
`02:35.18`	`anteater`	`sry`
`02:35.20`	`Death_Barrel`	`i forgot what we were talking about`
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`02:35.24`	`RedBaron2`	`lol`
`02:35.31`	`TheRedBaron`	`death_barrel abosolutes`
`02:35.36`	`anteater`	`orange: TheRedBaron: how can the supreme court have split decisions if justice is absolute?`
`02:35.37`	`Death_Barrel`	`RedBaron2, tell your brother to get laid ASAP!!`
`02:35.44`	`orange`	`justifiable homicide is simply a nod to the non-absoluteness of the sanctity of life as an absolute moral position`
`02:35.50`	`anteater`	`sry wrong one`
`02:35.54`	`anteater`	`oops`
`02:36.13`	`TheRedBaron`	`Justice is an absolute, but you fail to tell me in which application the supreme court has failed to apply it in`
`02:36.17`	`TheRedBaron`	`I need more information`
`02:36.33`	`anteater`	`orange: not at all, I'm arguing that there are no absolute morals`
`02:36.44`	`Death_Barrel`	`i don't believe justice is absolute..................`
`02:36.51`	`orange`	`justice is not absolute`
`02:36.54`	`TheRedBaron`	`what is justice then?`
`02:36.56`	`toki`	`tell that to my own sense of justice and personal principles`
`02:37.00`	`orange`	`only the ideal of justice is absolute`
`02:37.13`	`orange`	`practically, unattainable`
`02:37.20`	`TheRedBaron`	`then why?`
`02:37.23`	`TheRedBaron`	`why bother?`
`02:37.24`	`orange`	`anteater: there are no absolute morals`
`02:37.31`	`anteater`	`okay`
`02:37.32`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: because we must do the best we can`
`02:37.36`	`TheRedBaron`	`why?`
`02:37.49`	`orange`	`because we strive for perfection... that's what we do`
`02:37.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`why?`
`02:37.55`	`anteater`	`~dict morals`
`02:37.55`	`Death_Barrel`	`this is why: cause not everyone will agree with the justice, therefore in one persons mind it could be absolute, and in the next it won't be`
`02:38.11`	`orange`	`Death_Barrel: precisely... one man's justice is another man's injustice`
`02:38.14`	`TheRedBaron`	`death_barrel, that made no sense`
`02:38.22`	`TheRedBaron`	`still is illogical`
`02:38.22`	`Death_Barrel`	`not at all`
`02:38.26`	`Death_Barrel`	`negative`
`02:38.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`we try just simply to achieve one man's justice?`
`02:38.59`	`Death_Barrel`	`we try and achieve our own agenda`
`02:39.07`	`orange`	`as a country the USA tries to apply a common standard to everyone`
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`02:39.21`	`orange`	`I can't imagine many people arguing that the laws and justice dispensed in the USA are perfect`
`02:39.32`	`Death_Barrel`	`cause they arent`
`02:39.51`	`TheRedBaron`	`who's saying they are?`
`02:40.01`	`TheRedBaron`	`Its messed up!`
`02:40.01`	`Death_Barrel`	`not i`
`02:40.05`	`anteater`	`we are humans`
`02:40.10`	`TheRedBaron`	`You say all we have is hope..`
`02:40.18`	`TheRedBaron`	`nothing else but hope`
`02:40.18`	`orange`	`I said that?`
`02:40.29`	`TheRedBaron`	`you have eliminated everything else`
`02:40.31`	`Death_Barrel`	`right? when did we say all we had was hope?`
`02:40.33`	`TheRedBaron`	`through a process of elimination`
`02:40.39`	`TheRedBaron`	`no absolutes`
`02:40.40`	`Death_Barrel`	`you putting words in our mouths ........... again`
`02:40.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`no!`
`02:40.44`	`orange`	`I don't remember being offered all the choices`
`02:40.49`	`TheRedBaron`	`you don't realize what you are saying!`
`02:40.58`	`Death_Barrel`	`negative`
`02:41.00`	`TheRedBaron`	`what does mankind have left then?`
`02:41.16`	`orange`	`my goodness, what's better than hope, anyway?`
`02:41.22`	`orange`	`it's leads you to try`
`02:41.27`	`orange`	`err`
`02:41.32`	`orange`	`*it`
`02:41.34`	`Death_Barrel`	`well according to you .......... nothing`
`02:41.34`	`Death_Barrel`	`we should all just end our lives right now`
`02:41.40`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:44:58) TheRedBaron: what have we left?`
`02:41.40`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:45:04) Death_Barrel: waithope`
`02:41.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:44:54) TheRedBaron: if there are no absolutes`
`02:41.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:44:58) TheRedBaron: what have we left?`
`02:41.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:45:04) Death_Barrel: waithope`
`02:41.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:45:05) TheRedBaron: there is nothing determinable!`
`02:41.49`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:45:07) Death_Barrel: hope`
`02:41.49`	`Death_Barrel`	`thats suicidal cult talk`
`02:41.54`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:44:54) TheRedBaron: if there are no absolutes`
`02:41.54`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:44:58) TheRedBaron: what have we left?`
`02:41.55`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:45:04) Death_Barrel: waithope`
`02:41.57`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:45:05) TheRedBaron: there is nothing determinable!`
`02:41.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:45:07) Death_Barrel: hope`
`02:42.01`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:45:09) TheRedBaron: we hope in vain!`
`02:42.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:45:18) orange: nonsense, we do the best we can`
`02:42.05`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:45:21) TheRedBaron: life is worthless! unfit for living and dying`
`02:42.07`	`TheRedBaron`	`(21:45:23) orange: that's all we can do`
`02:42.08`	`Death_Barrel`	`yeah, we have hope left`
`02:42.13`	`TheRedBaron`	`death_barrel, it is suicidal cult talk...`
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`02:42.18`	`Death_Barrel`	`yeah, we have hope left`
`02:42.19`	`orange`	`oh, nonsense`
`02:42.20`	`TheRedBaron`	`but you didn't hear it from me`
`02:42.34`	`TheRedBaron`	`that is what is left with your ideals`
`02:42.40`	`orange`	`nonsense`
`02:42.47`	`TheRedBaron`	`with your abolition of morals, and absolutes`
`02:42.48`	`Death_Barrel`	`where in there does it every say out of my mouth "all we have left is hope"`
`02:42.53`	`orange`	`abolition of morals?`
`02:42.56`	`orange`	`who said anything about that?`
`02:42.57`	`Death_Barrel`	`waithope ways a typo`
`02:42.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`you did`
`02:43.11`	`Death_Barrel`	`was**`
`02:43.18`	`TheRedBaron`	`I asked what do we have left. deathbarrel, you said hope!`
`02:43.24`	`Death_Barrel`	`yes`
`02:43.24`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange you`
`02:43.25`	`Death_Barrel`	`correct`
`02:43.35`	`orange`	`hehe, you misunderstand, TheRedBaron. The lack of absolute morals does not mean the abolition of morals.`
`02:43.36`	`Death_Barrel`	`but i didn't say all we had left`
`02:43.45`	`TheRedBaron`	`if morals are not absolute what use are they?`
`02:43.49`	`TheRedBaron`	`the are subjective`
`02:43.54`	`TheRedBaron`	`Deathbarrel yes you did!`
`02:43.55`	`Death_Barrel`	`morals are guidelines`
`02:43.55`	`orange`	`of course they are`
`02:43.58`	`TheRedBaron`	`I asked what we had left.`
`02:44.01`	`Death_Barrel`	`and TheRedBaron no i didn't`
`02:44.01`	`TheRedBaron`	`you said hope.`
`02:44.06`	`Death_Barrel`	`yes i said hope`
`02:44.07`	`TheRedBaron`	`thats saying all we have left is hope`
`02:44.10`	`Death_Barrel`	`no`
`02:44.17`	`Death_Barrel`	`i said hope............... not all we have left is hope`
`02:44.19`	`TheRedBaron`	`then speak what you mean!`
`02:44.22`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: he has a point`
`02:44.24`	`Death_Barrel`	`that is what i mean`
`02:44.27`	`Death_Barrel`	`i ment hope`
`02:44.28`	`orange`	`you didn't ask what is ALL we have left`
`02:44.31`	`Death_Barrel`	`i said hope`
`02:44.33`	`orange`	`you asked, what do we have left?`
`02:44.39`	`Death_Barrel`	`you ask what you mean`
`02:44.41`	`Death_Barrel`	`lol`
`02:44.43`	`orange`	`just because he only named one thing doesn't mean that's all there is`
`02:44.51`	`Death_Barrel`	`exactally`
`02:44.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`I asked an all exclusive question`
`02:44.58`	`TheRedBaron`	`he answered it.`
`02:45.01`	`Death_Barrel`	`is that an absolute?`
`02:45.13`	`TheRedBaron`	`whats an absolute?`
`02:45.18`	`orange`	`your question was not all exclusive`
`02:45.29`	`Death_Barrel`	`you tell me, their are plenty of absolutes according to you`
`02:45.31`	`orange`	`even if you meant it that way`
`02:45.37`	`TheRedBaron`	`i said, if there were no absolutes, what have we left?`
`02:45.44`	`Death_Barrel`	`hope`
`02:45.57`	`Death_Barrel`	`how was that all exclusive?`
`02:46.09`	`TheRedBaron`	`no absolutes, everything is relative`
`02:46.20`	`orange`	`this is a semantic discussion`
`02:46.21`	`TheRedBaron`	`that is what you guys are saying.`
`02:46.33`	`orange`	`forget what people said, take what they're saying they meant`
`02:46.33`	`Guu`	`I've never heard of what people said, take what they're saying they meant, orange!`
`02:46.38`	`orange`	`hehe`
`02:46.42`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: exactly, due to there being "no absolutes"`
`02:46.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`what do we have left? i repeate myself`
`02:47.03`	`orange`	`I'm still looking for that example of absolute morality`
`02:47.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`*repeate`
`02:47.44`	`orange`	`many many people would, I feel sure, argue that you deciding to kill a man who was going to kill your son is morally wrong`
`02:47.47`	`TheRedBaron`	`truth`
`02:48.08`	`orange`	`slippery concept, that one`
`02:48.12`	`orange`	`truth is clouded by perception`
`02:48.13`	`TheRedBaron`	`truth is an absolute morality`
`02:48.25`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: have you ever told a lie?`
`02:48.34`	`orange`	`no`
`02:48.35`	`anteater`	`=-O`
`02:48.37`	`orange`	`lol`
`02:48.38`	`anteater`	`lol`
`02:48.41`	`Death_Barrel`	`hahahhahaa`
`02:48.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`thats a lie in and of itself...`
`02:49.12`	`orange`	`of course it is... it was a joke`
`02:49.20`	`orange`	`was it immoral?`
`02:49.30`	`orange`	`or was it simply funny?`
`02:49.31`	`TheRedBaron`	`what seperates truth from falsehood? from lies?`
`02:49.36`	`Death_Barrel`	`TheRedBaron, obviously hes got it all figured out, hes only 19 and already has the meaning to life....... heres an absolute...... all teenagers are invincible know-it-alls`
`02:49.40`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: often... perception`
`02:50.04`	`TheRedBaron`	`Death_Barrel: thats not funny...`
`02:50.10`	`TheRedBaron`	`Me? i'm holding on to absolutes`
`02:50.15`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: have you never experienced the situation of two people who in their deepest heart believe they are telling the truth, but are saying different things?`
`02:50.19`	`TheRedBaron`	`that there is more to this endless cycle of life`
`02:50.20`	`orange`	`because I certainly have`
`02:50.45`	`Death_Barrel`	`no such thing as absolute truth`
`02:50.59`	`orange`	`not to man, because man's truth is always clouded by his own perception`
`02:51.04`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: Does sincerety dictate truth?`
`02:51.40`	`orange`	`depends on what you mean, TheRedBaron. It's somewhat relative.`
`02:52.17`	`TheRedBaron`	`Just because some one means it from the bottom of their heart, does that mean its right and true?`
`02:52.44`	`orange`	`to that person, it is truth`
`02:53.14`	`anteater`	`what would be an example of that?`
`02:53.20`	`orange`	`is there a higher truth? What man can truly know it? It is ALWAYS clouded by your perception.`
`02:53.38`	`TheRedBaron`	`you asked the right question orange....`
`02:53.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`"is there higher truth"`
`02:53.48`	`Death_Barrel`	`ok everyone........... take a break and check this out>>>>>`
`02:53.49`	`TheRedBaron`	`is there?`
`02:53.50`	`Death_Barrel`	`http://www.timekiller.com/index~show~comments~name~Lego_GTA_by_Brickstar~id~98892.htm`
`02:54.45`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: I'm not planning to go there tonight.`
`02:55.21`	`TheRedBaron`	`why not?`
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`02:55.57`	`orange`	`because I'm too smart to get dragged into a religious discussion where nobody can win and many people can get their feelings hurt`
`02:56.10`	`TheRedBaron`	`hehe....`
`02:56.18`	`orange`	`call it the absolute of my social experiences :-)`
`02:56.41`	`Death_Barrel`	`supermassive black holes are the creator of life`
`02:57.20`	`anteater`	`public school db?`
`02:57.24`	`Death_Barrel`	`which galaxies have supermassive black holes?`
`02:57.28`	`Death_Barrel`	`anybody?`
`02:58.18`	`Death_Barrel`	`every galaxy has a supermassive black hole`
`02:59.25`	`anteater`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:59.28`	`Death_Barrel`	`and snakes are our gods, and we shoould whorship cattle`
`02:59.45`	`anteater`	`i would like a nice slice of beef now`
`02:59.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`you still fail to answer what is at the core of life... If there are no absolute, nothing that is certain, and everything is subject. there is nothing to build life around... what have we left?`
`03:00.16`	`orange`	`a nice porterhouse`
`03:00.23`	`Death_Barrel`	`absolute: all galaxies have black holes`
`03:00.47`	`anteater`	`have we found "all galaxies" yet?`
`03:01.03`	`orange`	`2" thick`
`03:01.06`	`Death_Barrel`	`no but that is how galaxies are formed`
`03:01.13`	`anteater`	`okay`
`03:01.24`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: i know your using humor in an attempt to defuse the situation, but it is beyond that`
`03:01.33`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: defuse?`
`03:01.36`	`orange`	`are we fused?`
`03:01.44`	`orange`	`I was having a nice philosophical discussion`
`03:01.51`	`TheRedBaron`	`same here`
`03:01.55`	`Death_Barrel`	`yeah seriously, are we fused?`
`03:01.57`	`orange`	`what I was doing is steering it away from religion`
`03:02.14`	`orange`	`nothing good can come from that`
`03:02.19`	`orange`	`(discussing that)`
`03:02.23`	`Death_Barrel`	`yes please, no religion talk here, we will get nowhere with it`
`03:02.24`	`TheRedBaron`	`doens't everyone have a form of religion? in some format?`
`03:02.37`	`TheRedBaron`	`you still fail to answer what is at the core of life... If there are no absolute, nothing that is certain, and everything is subject. there is nothing to build life around... what have we left?`
`03:02.39`	`Death_Barrel`	`ah eh ha, no religion talk`
`03:02.53`	`orange`	`be my close friend for 10 years, share life and deaths with me, and then we'll talk about religion`
`03:02.59`	`Death_Barrel`	`the core of life as we know it is supermassive black hole`
`03:03.06`	`Death_Barrel`	`as we know it`
`03:03.17`	`anteater`	`as u know it db :-P`
`03:03.32`	`Death_Barrel`	`you didn't know that?>`
`03:03.50`	`Death_Barrel`	`as man knows it`
`03:04.08`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange am I asking a religious question?`
`03:04.35`	`Death_Barrel`	`TheRedBaron, i keep telling you black holes`
`03:04.46`	`TheRedBaron`	`yea, but thats relative...`
`03:04.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`not absolute`
`03:04.58`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: in my opinion that's where we're heading, yes`
`03:05.09`	`Death_Barrel`	`its absolute for our galaxy`
`03:05.09`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: I'm glad you recognize that`
`03:05.45`	`TheRedBaron`	`perhaps then you'll see the futility of having no moral absolutes`
`03:06.14`	`Death_Barrel`	`there are no moral absolutes`
`03:06.27`	`orange`	`hehe, I agree :-)`
`03:06.51`	`TheRedBaron`	`do you see the logical end of that belief?`
`03:07.03`	`orange`	`yes, man is flawed`
`03:07.06`	`orange`	`that's the logical end`
`03:07.10`	`Death_Barrel`	`of course, its a belief`
`03:07.20`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: thats depressing...`
`03:07.20`	`Death_Barrel`	`and beliefs are nothing close to absolution`
`03:07.42`	`TheRedBaron`	`death_Barrel: but there has to be absolutes`
`03:07.59`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: let me turn it around then... do you claim to actually know any of these moral absolutes?`
`03:07.59`	`Death_Barrel`	`nothing`
`03:08.30`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: I will respect you, and I will answer honestly and truly`
`03:08.31`	`Death_Barrel`	`TheRedBaron, if you could name one that would be great, so far you haven't`
`03:08.54`	`TheRedBaron`	`Death_barrel: i've named them. You guys simply don't believe in them because to you, its all relative`
`03:09.08`	`Death_Barrel`	`no because things can be changed`
`03:09.17`	`TheRedBaron`	`to have morals a case of relativity is not sane`
`03:09.28`	`Death_Barrel`	`all the absolutes you named could change`
`03:09.31`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: if someone else's beliefs are held as strongly as yours but don't agree with yours, what then?`
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`03:09.48`	`orange`	`how do you reconcile that?`
`03:09.54`	`Death_Barrel`	`he can't`
`03:09.56`	`orange`	`who is right? And how can you prove it?`
`03:10.00`	`TheRedBaron`	`1 is true, 1 is not, or both are not true`
`03:10.09`	`orange`	`but then how do you know?`
`03:10.09`	`TheRedBaron`	`they cannot both be true`
`03:10.12`	`Death_Barrel`	`so then its not an absolute`
`03:10.16`	`orange`	`which is true?`
`03:10.20`	`orange`	`how do you know?`
`03:10.25`	`orange`	`who is right? Who is wrong?`
`03:10.28`	`orange`	`how do you know?`
`03:10.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`Orange: give me an example`
`03:10.57`	`orange`	`a man is going to shoot your son. You can kill him and stop him.`
`03:11.02`	`orange`	`person a says: kill him and save your son`
`03:11.08`	`orange`	`person b says: don't kill him, life is sacred`
`03:11.12`	`orange`	`to take life is wrong`
`03:11.17`	`orange`	`who is right? And why?`
`03:11.21`	`orange`	`can they both be right?`
`03:11.24`	`Death_Barrel`	`not a very good example`
`03:11.35`	`TheRedBaron`	`thats easy`
`03:11.39`	`TheRedBaron`	`which one is logical?`
`03:11.45`	`orange`	`logic?`
`03:11.53`	`orange`	`what on earth does logic have to do with morals?`
`03:11.57`	`TheRedBaron`	`person b? who says life is scared, but wil`
`03:11.58`	`Death_Barrel`	`nothing`
`03:12.15`	`TheRedBaron`	`*but will not raise a finger to uphold his beliefs? is that logical?`
`03:12.24`	`TheRedBaron`	`i call that hypocritical`
`03:12.37`	`orange`	`huh? his beliefs say that no person should be killed through his action`
`03:12.37`	`Death_Barrel`	`thats cause logic has nothing to do with it`
`03:12.40`	`TheRedBaron`	`what is the logical end of the situation?`
`03:12.53`	`orange`	`person b argues thusly:`
`03:13.08`	`orange`	`1) what if the person isn't really planning to kill my son? I could be wrong.`
`03:13.20`	`orange`	`2) what if the person's life is truly worth more than my son's life in the grand scheme of things?`
`03:13.21`	`Death_Barrel`	`hers a better example`
`03:13.24`	`Death_Barrel`	`>>>>>>>>>>>`
`03:13.32`	`orange`	`who are WE to say person b is wrong?`
`03:13.45`	`Death_Barrel`	`person a believes in jesus, person b does not............... who is right, who is wrong?`
`03:14.00`	`TheRedBaron`	`death_barrel: you case is even worse`
`03:14.18`	`Death_Barrel`	`its not religion`
`03:14.22`	`TheRedBaron`	`its questioning the ideal of diety`
`03:14.47`	`Death_Barrel`	`ok`
`03:14.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`and to deny the exsistences of a diety is to suspect the exsistence of diety`
`03:15.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`and to make that claim, one would have to be a diety.`
`03:15.10`	`Death_Barrel`	`blah blah, i was just giving a non religious example`
`03:15.12`	`orange`	`Death_Barrel did not say deity, he said jesus`
`03:15.30`	`Death_Barrel`	`imo that wasn't religious`
`03:15.38`	`TheRedBaron`	`some believe from the deepest of their heart that he is a deity`
`03:15.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`if truth is relative...`
`03:15.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`as you say it is.`
`03:16.01`	`TheRedBaron`	`then you have no logic and reasonable answer...`
`03:16.04`	`Death_Barrel`	`truth is non existant`
`03:16.16`	`TheRedBaron`	`death_barrel: fine`
`03:16.23`	`TheRedBaron`	`but think about the implications of that`
`03:16.41`	`Death_Barrel`	`which leads us back to morals :)`
`03:16.49`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: "you have no logic and reasonabl answer" to what?`
`03:17.02`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: whether he is a deity or not`
`03:17.24`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: that is correct, there is no true answer to that question`
`03:18.08`	`TheRedBaron`	`what if I believe from the deepest sense of my heart, that galileo is a deity?`
`03:18.16`	`orange`	`and to believe there is a TRUE answer, for all people, is to disrespect all other religions`
`03:18.43`	`orange`	`just as it is for other religions to disbelieve`
`03:18.56`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: there has to be truth`
`03:19.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`there is a relegion that is right.`
`03:19.13`	`TheRedBaron`	`Don't ask me which.`
`03:19.21`	`TheRedBaron`	`but there is truth`
`03:19.32`	`Death_Barrel`	`how do you know there is a relegion that is right?`
`03:19.40`	`TheRedBaron`	`Logic and truth dictate it.`
`03:19.45`	`orange`	`talk about defeatist... you're going to play russian roulette with your soul?`
`03:19.50`	`TheRedBaron`	`nope`
`03:19.54`	`TheRedBaron`	`I have my beliefs`
`03:20.08`	`TheRedBaron`	`It seems to you you guys are the ones playing roulette with humanity`
`03:20.31`	`orange`	`no, I believe all the chambers are loaded`
`03:20.40`	`orange`	`!roulette`
`03:20.40`	`Guu`	`BANG Hey, who put a blank in here?!`
`03:20.41`	`Death_Barrel`	`you the one that said life is meaningless, and we are all just animals and life is worthless`
`03:20.42`	`TheRedBaron`	`really?`
`03:20.47`	`TheRedBaron`	`then there is an absolute`
`03:21.09`	`TheRedBaron`	`death_barrel, no I said according to your beliefs... that we are just animals and life is worthless`
`03:21.11`	`Death_Barrel`	`that isn't an absolute`
`03:21.26`	`TheRedBaron`	`what is it then?`
`03:21.28`	`Death_Barrel`	`you know why its not an absolute?`
`03:21.33`	`TheRedBaron`	`do we even have a soul?`
`03:21.48`	`Death_Barrel`	`cause how do you know 1 day we won't discover time travel and change things`
`03:21.59`	`Death_Barrel`	`even shit we just said isn't absolute`
`03:22.09`	`TheRedBaron`	`did i say that?`
`03:22.14`	`Death_Barrel`	`no`
`03:22.17`	`TheRedBaron`	`thank you`
`03:22.26`	`TheRedBaron`	`did I claim to know that?`
`03:22.43`	`Death_Barrel`	`you said that life was meaningless...blah blah blah`
`03:22.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`nope didn't say that.`
`03:22.52`	`Death_Barrel`	`yeah you did`
`03:23.06`	`Death_Barrel`	`or according to my beliefs`
`03:23.17`	`Death_Barrel`	`now you saying i said that?`
`03:23.54`	`orange`	`I believe this conversation has run its useful course`
`03:23.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`hmm cut and paste doesn't work.`
`03:24.21`	`orange`	`when you reach 'faith' you can't make an argument`
`03:24.25`	`Death_Barrel`	`good`
`03:24.27`	`Death_Barrel`	`lol`
`03:24.51`	`Death_Barrel`	`yeah really theres no reason to cut and paste`
`03:25.10`	`TheRedBaron`	`i said "IF"`
`03:25.15`	`TheRedBaron`	`you missed the qualifier`
`03:25.22`	`orange`	`or I should say, when you reach faith you can no longer make intellectual arguments`
`03:25.28`	`Death_Barrel`	`yep`
`03:25.29`	`TheRedBaron`	`IF, there are no absolutes...`
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`03:25.43`	`Death_Barrel`	`next time i would have just claimed faith to begin with`
`03:25.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: then no one is intellectual for we all have faith in something.`
`03:25.47`	`anteater`	`wb k`
`03:25.54`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: don't misunderstand my statement`
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`03:26.02`	`orange`	`rehi kierra`
`03:26.07`	`Death_Barrel`	`kierra, you need to give your hopeless son a spanking`
`03:26.09`	`kierra`	`hellos`
`03:26.09`	`TheRedBaron`	`Orange: trace everything back..`
`03:26.11`	`*** mode/#bzleague [+o kierra] by ChanServ`
`03:26.16`	`TheRedBaron`	`every belief back...`
`03:26.19`	`TheRedBaron`	`every idea back`
`03:26.26`	`TheRedBaron`	`it is based on faith in something.`
`03:26.29`	`Death_Barrel`	`we can't trace it back`
`03:26.37`	`anteater`	`why not?`
`03:26.38`	`Death_Barrel`	`we trace it back by faith`
`03:26.57`	`TheRedBaron`	`you just said we trace it back...`
`03:27.29`	`Death_Barrel`	`you putting words in my moof again?`
`03:27.33`	`TheRedBaron`	`nope`
`03:27.39`	`Death_Barrel`	`cut and paste this time`
`03:27.45`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: my point is, when someone closes the circle and says that they believe something to be true because of their "faith", then no amount of discussion can or should change that`
`03:28.01`	`TheRedBaron`	`(22:37:48) Death_Barrel: we trace it back by faith`
`03:28.07`	`orange`	`no disrespect intended with the quotes around faith, btw`
`03:28.34`	`orange`	`and thus, I believe, it ends the philosophical discussion`
`03:28.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`Perhaps...`
`03:29.06`	`anteater`	`so we agree to disagree :-D`
`03:29.09`	`Death_Barrel`	`yeah thats what i ment`
`03:29.12`	`anteater`	`now lets go play bzflag`
`03:29.17`	`TheRedBaron`	`proxy...`
`03:29.23`	`anteater`	`7001`
`03:29.34`	`anteater`	`lol`
`03:29.39`	`Death_Barrel`	`ok brb`
`03:29.42`	`anteater`	`sry trb`
`03:29.54`	`anteater`	`i did not c the "y"`
`03:30.09`	`kierra`	`bummer`
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`03:30.16`	`kierra`	`thonoman`
`03:30.22`	`TheRedBaron`	`thono go to bed! its late there :)`
`03:30.32`	`orange`	`kierra: why bummer?`
`03:30.51`	`Thonolan`	`lol`
`03:31.03`	`Thonolan`	`goooooooood mooooooooooooorning :)`
`03:31.08`	`kierra`	`proxy = no bz`
`03:31.17`	`TheRedBaron`	`oh no, i'm not going to wake up... I'm going to bed!`
`03:31.19`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: thanks for a good discussion... allow me to throw in a postscript`
`03:31.34`	`Thonolan`	`:)`
`03:31.37`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: allow me to say this also....`
`03:31.39`	`kierra`	`uhoh, beware of 'ps'`
`03:31.40`	`orange`	`I don't always believe everything I argue, but I DO enjoy the discussions :-)`
`03:31.43`	`Thonolan`	`her is 4 35 am`
`03:32.05`	`Death_Barrel`	`yeah TheRedBaron good discussion, too bad you are wrong and i am right`
`03:32.10`	`Death_Barrel`	`lol`
`03:32.21`	`orange`	`I'll leave it up to you to get to know me and learn my mind.`
`03:32.38`	`orange`	`Death_Barrel: thanks for your participation :-)`
`03:32.51`	`Death_Barrel`	`ah now you know i have nothing better to do`
`03:33.09`	`kierra`	`cant wait to read the logs`
`03:33.10`	`TheRedBaron`	`I am a 19 year old. I am in the stage of life where one questions... questions everything. To me, this is most critial part of my life. that I will not spend chasing tail. To me it is the formulation of my beliefs. This is the time when the decisions and beliefs I make, will determine the type of man I will be`
`03:33.13`	`Death_Barrel`	`remember when lil dog used to bug the hell out of me about joining HoW ?`
`03:33.21`	`TheRedBaron`	`This is the crucial peroid in my maturity`
`03:33.45`	`Death_Barrel`	`so is chasin tail`
`03:33.51`	`Death_Barrel`	`now to git-r-done`
`03:34.05`	`TheRedBaron`	`I do not agree with what you said, FOr when I take it to its logical conclusion, it leaves unanswered the quest and query of the existence of life.`
`03:34.12`	`orange`	`you really have to admire Death_Barrel's singlemindedness`
`03:34.16`	`kierra`	`rb`
`03:34.20`	`TheRedBaron`	`Chasing tail is too shallow for me...`
`03:34.31`	`TheRedBaron`	`when I am old... Perhaps I"ll take it up then ;)`
`03:34.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`somebody invented viagra for a purpose anyway...`
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`03:35.04`	`Thonolan`	`woho`
`03:35.10`	`Thonolan`	`hard discussion here`
`03:35.13`	`Death_Barrel`	`would you perfer to chase something else?`
`03:35.20`	`TheRedBaron`	`yup!`
`03:35.22`	`TheRedBaron`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:35.24`	`TheRedBaron`	`i saw your pic on bzleague`
`03:35.32`	`TheRedBaron`	`and you are one fine looking guy!`
`03:35.35`	`Death_Barrel`	`ewwwwwwwwww you homo`
`03:35.36`	`TheRedBaron`	`can I come over?`
`03:35.37`	`orange`	`porterhouse`
`03:35.57`	`TheRedBaron`	`pfff...`
`03:36.00`	`anteater`	`lol`
`03:36.07`	`anteater`	`medium well`
`03:36.12`	`orange`	`you'll learn`
`03:36.13`	`kierra`	`rare`
`03:36.16`	`Death_Barrel`	`orange: how about some southwestern chicken chili ?`
`03:36.20`	`Death_Barrel`	`ummmmmmmmmm`
`03:36.25`	`orange`	`Death_Barrel: sounds good, but it's no porterhouse`
`03:36.28`	`Death_Barrel`	`just made it`
`03:36.39`	`TheRedBaron`	`gah!`
`03:36.56`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: cling to your beliefs, they'll serve you well. But don't forget to respect what other people believe as well :-)`
`03:37.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`I can't appreciate such jovialness over such a seemingly pressing issue`
`03:37.07`	`orange`	`(the relativeness of truth)`
`03:37.37`	`TheRedBaron`	`but I'll always ask myself... what if.`
`03:38.00`	`TheRedBaron`	`what if I'm right? what if I'm wrong? what are the consequences? are there consequences?`
`03:38.08`	`TheRedBaron`	`is there life after death?`
`03:38.12`	`orange`	`there are always consequences :-)`
`03:38.30`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange... you're bringing up the subject again...`
`03:38.48`	`orange`	`hehehe`
`03:38.56`	`TheRedBaron`	`~lart orange`
`03:38.58`	`*** join/#bzleague RedBaron2 (n=Owner@fl-71-0-237-214.dhcp.sprint-hsd.net)`
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`03:39.40`	`orange`	`~stab RedBaron2`
`03:39.41`	`jbot`	`ACTION runs at RedBaron2 with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.`
`03:39.42`	`Thonolan`	`howdy rb 2`
`03:39.42`	`Death_Barrel`	`~aol orange`
`03:39.43`	`jbot`	`ACTION hits orange with a free America Online CD until he dies`
`03:39.48`	`Death_Barrel`	`i can't take another hour of this`
`03:39.59`	`orange`	`let's see who has good karma`
`03:40.01`	`orange`	`!roulette`
`03:40.01`	`Guu`	`orange: click`
`03:40.05`	`kierra`	`STAB RB2?????? orange what are you thinking`
`03:40.08`	`Death_Barrel`	`!roulette`
`03:40.09`	`Guu`	`Death_Barrel: click`
`03:40.13`	`orange`	`kierra: just for good measure`
`03:40.15`	`RedBaron2`	`hi thono`
`03:40.27`	`Thonolan`	`:)`
`03:40.28`	`Death_Barrel`	`keep going`
`03:40.29`	`RedBaron2`	`lol`
`03:40.30`	`Death_Barrel`	`!roulette`
`03:40.31`	`Guu`	`Death_Barrel: click`
`03:40.32`	`orange`	`rb2 knows I'm just kidding`
`03:40.33`	`RedBaron2`	`~bonk orange`
`03:40.34`	`jbot`	`ACTION bonks orange over the head`
`03:40.34`	`Death_Barrel`	`niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice`
`03:40.37`	`Death_Barrel`	`!roulette`
`03:40.38`	`Guu`	`Death_Barrel: click`
`03:40.39`	`orange`	`one per customer Death_Barrel`
`03:40.40`	`Death_Barrel`	`niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice`
`03:40.42`	`kierra`	`he and trb are some of the delights of my eyes`
`03:40.55`	`orange`	`now there's a qualified statement if I ever heard one :-)`
`03:41.07`	`kierra`	`i am qualified`
`03:41.20`	`Death_Barrel`	`~decapitate RedBaron2`
`03:41.22`	`jbot`	`ACTION cuts of RedBaron2's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper`
`03:41.22`	`orange`	`kierra: you did see the result of ~stab, right?`
`03:41.32`	`RedBaron2`	`ow that hurt!`
`03:41.43`	`anteater`	`nlol`
`03:41.44`	`RedBaron2`	`next time you could atleast do it with a sharp halberd..`
`03:41.45`	`anteater`	`oops`
`03:41.48`	`Death_Barrel`	`can you still see your headless body?`
`03:41.49`	`kierra`	`but the idea of 'stab'`
`03:42.05`	`RedBaron2`	`uh..it's walking around somewhere trying to find me`
`03:42.11`	`orange`	`find your sensibilities and tell them not to be offended, kierra`
`03:42.22`	`orange`	`boys and their boy toys, you know`
`03:42.33`	`RedBaron2`	`hehe`
`03:42.43`	`kierra`	`yes, i know. I have 4 boys and I'm still getting used to it`
`03:43.17`	`kierra`	`5, if you count my hubby`
`03:43.52`	`anteater`	`lol`
`03:44.06`	`TheRedBaron`	`lordy, 11 oclock i need to head to bed...`
`03:44.13`	`orange`	`16 more minutes`
`03:44.15`	`kierra`	`me too`
`03:44.19`	`anteater`	`i am going to go find some ice cream`
`03:44.26`	`kierra`	`0600 comes soon`
`03:44.26`	`TheRedBaron`	`5 by this clock`
`03:44.39`	`kierra`	`thono`
`03:44.39`	`orange`	`TheRedBaron: time is not absolute, obviously :-)`
`03:44.43`	`Thonolan`	`yes ?`
`03:44.58`	`kierra`	`times passes differently in different places`
`03:45.12`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: of course not`
`03:45.15`	`kierra`	`feelings are deceiving ;)`
`03:45.28`	`orange`	`feelings are most certainly not absolute`
`03:45.30`	`Thonolan`	`yes the 8 hron week feels like really 12 h :)`
`03:45.49`	`Thonolan`	`and the other hours at home runs like 6 hr`
`03:45.52`	`Thonolan`	`n:)`
`03:45.57`	`TheRedBaron`	`so much for my "if it feels good, do it" semantra`
`03:46.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`:-p`
`03:46.15`	`TheRedBaron`	`*mantra`
`03:47.11`	`TheRedBaron`	`actually its not mine...`
`03:47.39`	`kierra`	`ah, the cursed proxy`
`03:48.02`	`TheRedBaron`	`I think! therefore am I?`
`03:48.39`	`Death_Barrel`	`absolute vodka!`
`03:48.49`	`TheRedBaron`	`death_barrel: and to think i defended you at the league site pfff ;)`
`03:48.58`	`Death_Barrel`	`lol piff on you`
`03:49.04`	`Death_Barrel`	`piff pfft pffffffffffffffffffffffffffft`
`03:49.19`	`TheRedBaron`	`so much for turning the other cheek... ;)`
`03:49.34`	`RedBaron2`	`speaking of the league site..i still need to collect my money`
`03:49.35`	`TheRedBaron`	`j/k`
`03:49.45`	`kierra`	`I'll be the banker`
`03:49.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`good luck :)`
`03:49.55`	`Death_Barrel`	`yeah TheRedBaron owes RedBaron2 $800`
`03:50.03`	`Death_Barrel`	`how was that knuckle sandwich?`
`03:50.13`	`TheRedBaron`	`he called you a sissy`
`03:50.20`	`RedBaron2`	`it sorta put my face out of position..`
`03:50.22`	`TheRedBaron`	`says you need to try steroids :)`
`03:50.34`	`RedBaron2`	`i need to make an appointment with a plastic surgeon`
`03:50.49`	`TheRedBaron`	`~inject db`
`03:50.50`	`jbot`	`ACTION injects db into his shiny metal ass`
`03:50.50`	`Death_Barrel`	`hehe, ok bbl have to go to the store`
`03:51.00`	`Death_Barrel`	`oh man, i haven't showered in 2 days`
`03:51.01`	`TheRedBaron`	`oh my`
`03:51.12`	`TheRedBaron`	`that is not what I had in mind...`
`03:51.17`	`Death_Barrel`	`been way too lazy`
`03:51.30`	`TheRedBaron`	`I"m referring to jbot's actions...`
`03:51.42`	`Death_Barrel`	`TheRedBaron, i guess i had you wrong, you need to go chase some male tail`
`03:51.54`	`TheRedBaron`	`pfff...`
`03:51.55`	`RedBaron2`	`O.o`
`03:51.56`	`Death_Barrel`	`maybe you won't argue with me this time`
`03:51.57`	`Death_Barrel`	`lol`
`03:52.02`	`kierra`	`somebody needs to change that jbot`
`03:52.14`	`Death_Barrel`	`jbot, forget inject`
`03:52.14`	`jbot`	`Death_Barrel: i didn't have anything called 'inject' to forget`
`03:52.23`	`Death_Barrel`	`jbot, inject`
`03:52.31`	`TheRedBaron`	`~literal inject`
`03:52.45`	`Death_Barrel`	`jbot, forget literal inject`
`03:52.45`	`jbot`	`i didn't have anything called 'literal inject' to forget, Death_Barrel`
`03:52.51`	`Death_Barrel`	`~literal inject`
`03:52.52`	`Death_Barrel`	`hmm`
`03:52.56`	`TheRedBaron`	`~inject rb2`
`03:52.58`	`jbot`	`ACTION injects rb2 into his shiny metal ass`
`03:53.00`	`TheRedBaron`	`oddd`
`03:53.07`	`Death_Barrel`	`change ass to wang hole`
`03:53.12`	`Death_Barrel`	`then we will be ok`
`03:53.18`	`TheRedBaron`	`oh joy!`
`03:53.22`	`TheRedBaron`	`thats a big improvement`
`03:53.26`	`Death_Barrel`	`it will sound more painful that way`
`03:53.34`	`TheRedBaron`	`that wasn't the point...`
`03:53.35`	`RedBaron2`	`~castrate trb`
`03:53.36`	`jbot`	`trb: say AAAAAAAAAAAARRGGH!`
`03:54.12`	`TheRedBaron`	`i don't think so...`
`03:54.40`	`kierra`	`this is deteriorating`
`03:54.40`	`TheRedBaron`	`death_barrel: FYI, I don't even have a g/f much less a b/f...`
`03:54.59`	`Death_Barrel`	`you don't need either to chase male tale`
`03:55.11`	`TheRedBaron`	`~screw Db`
`03:55.13`	`Death_Barrel`	`thats how you get more b/f's`
`03:55.32`	`Death_Barrel`	`if you need a b/f, then you go chasin male tale`
`03:55.43`	`Death_Barrel`	`~inject TheRedBaron`
`03:55.44`	`jbot`	`ACTION injects TheRedBaron into her shiny metal ass`
`03:56.00`	`Death_Barrel`	`hahahahahahaha~!!!!! jbot thinks you are a her`
`03:56.01`	`TheRedBaron`	`woah`
`03:56.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`now its her?`
`03:56.21`	`TheRedBaron`	`no jbot is saying that "its" a "her/female"`
`03:56.22`	`Death_Barrel`	`well then! that explains everything!!`
`03:56.33`	`TheRedBaron`	`no dont' say it!`
`03:56.36`	`kierra`	`who programmed jbot?`
`03:56.38`	`Thonolan`	`ok i go to work`
`03:56.43`	`kierra`	`bye`
`03:56.43`	`Thonolan`	`bye all`
`03:56.47`	`orange`	`cu Thonolan`
`03:56.47`	`RedBaron2`	`bye thono`
`03:56.57`	`Thonolan`	`byezzzzz`
`03:57.10`	`Death_Barrel`	`obviously a european came up with inject, cause really it doesn't make my sense`
`03:57.13`	`Death_Barrel`	`lol`
`03:57.15`	`kierra`	`have a great day, Di`
`03:57.20`	`Death_Barrel`	`cya thono`
`03:57.49`	`Death_Barrel`	`ok bbl, for real this time`
`03:57.56`	`TheRedBaron`	`har!`
`03:58.35`	`TheRedBaron`	`well its late, and past my bedtime...`
`03:58.41`	`orange`	`cu trb`
`03:59.14`	`anteater`	`bye baron`
`03:59.18`	`TheRedBaron`	`I'm going to bed..`
`03:59.26`	`TheRedBaron`	`Death_barrel: alone!`
`03:59.36`	`RedBaron2`	`~fishslap trb go to bed!`
`03:59.37`	`jbot`	`ACTION slaps trb go to bed! up side the head with a wet fish.`
`03:59.39`	`anteater`	`lol`
`03:59.42`	`orange`	`lol, nice parting blow, trb`
`03:59.59`	`RedBaron2`	`:D`
`04:00.02`	`TheRedBaron`	`well, when I sign off, He'll get his in...`
`04:00.09`	`TheRedBaron`	`he's pretending to be "away" ;)`
`04:00.10`	`RedBaron2`	`uh oh..`
`04:00.15`	`anteater`	`can i make gaim say something when i leave ? :-D`
`04:00.15`	`orange`	`interesting capitalization`
`04:00.28`	`TheRedBaron`	`i have random shift key firings`
`04:00.32`	`RedBaron2`	`lol`
`04:00.37`	`orange`	`tHat sTinKs`
`04:00.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`yup`
`04:00.53`	`TheRedBaron`	`and the "enter" key is too quick on the draw`
`04:01.14`	`kierra`	`when you /quit type something here`
`04:01.25`	`anteater`	`ty`
`04:01.54`	`kierra`	`yw :)`
`04:02.04`	`kierra`	`does that get me karma?????`
`04:03.20`	`orange`	`only the anteater can decide`
`04:03.29`	`anteater`	`sry`
`04:03.37`	`anteater`	`how ? :-/`
`04:03.46`	`RedBaron2`	`ant type ~RedBaron2++`
`04:03.48`	`RedBaron2`	`that'll work`
`04:03.51`	`anteater`	`lol`
`04:03.56`	`anteater`	`ty`
`04:04.01`	`anteater`	`i will edit it some`
`04:04.06`	`orange`	`s/+/-/g`
`04:04.09`	`kierra`	`no, type ~kierra+2`
`04:04.09`	`RedBaron2`	`it won't work then..`
`04:04.20`	`anteater`	`~kierra+2`
`04:04.29`	`orange`	`that doesn't work, does it?`
`04:04.30`	`anteater`	`did i get it?`
`04:04.32`	`RedBaron2`	`ack! you got it all wrong!`
`04:04.41`	`RedBaron2`	`its ~RedBaron2++`
`04:04.43`	`orange`	`~karma kierra`
`04:04.43`	`jbot`	`kierra has karma of 6`
`04:04.52`	`orange`	`~kierra+2`
`04:04.55`	`orange`	`~karma kierra`
`04:04.55`	`jbot`	`kierra has karma of 6`
`04:04.58`	`orange`	`no`
`04:05.05`	`RedBaron2`	`~karma redbaron2`
`04:05.05`	`jbot`	`redbaron2 has karma of 3`
`04:05.09`	`RedBaron2`	`see? i need it more!`
`04:05.10`	`anteater`	`~kierra2++`
`04:05.15`	`orange`	`~kierra++`
`04:05.22`	`orange`	`~karma kierra`
`04:05.22`	`jbot`	`kierra has karma of 7`
`04:05.28`	`RedBaron2`	`voilah`
`04:05.39`	`orange`	`~redbaron2++`
`04:05.40`	`anteater`	`~karma anteater`
`04:05.40`	`jbot`	`anteater has karma of 1`
`04:05.44`	`RedBaron2`	`yay!`
`04:05.47`	`kierra`	`that is so nice, orange`
`04:05.47`	`anteater`	`i have 1 :-D`
`04:05.51`	`RedBaron2`	`1 more for me :D`
`04:05.52`	`kierra`	`now you do it ant`
`04:05.59`	`anteater`	`k`
`04:06.01`	`orange`	`~theredbaron++`
`04:06.02`	`kierra`	`:)`
`04:06.11`	`orange`	`~Death_Barrel++`
`04:06.15`	`anteater`	`~kierra++`
`04:06.16`	`orange`	`for a well-conducted discussion`
`04:06.33`	`RedBaron2`	`hehe`
`04:06.39`	`anteater`	`i was here too orange :-D`
`04:06.42`	`orange`	`~karma Death_Barrel`
`04:06.42`	`jbot`	`death_barrel has karma of 6`
`04:06.53`	`RedBaron2`	`~anteater++`
`04:06.55`	`RedBaron2`	`there :)`
`04:06.59`	`anteater`	`~karma kierra`
`04:06.59`	`jbot`	`kierra has karma of 8`
`04:07.01`	`anteater`	`ty`
`04:07.09`	`orange`	`anteater: yeah, but you didn't participate except to find some quote about relativists and confuse me with double negatives :-)`
`04:07.20`	`kierra`	`lol`
`04:07.21`	`anteater`	`:-(`
`04:07.28`	`orange`	`awwww, poor aardvark`
`04:07.29`	`anteater`	`i was working on school too`
`04:07.41`	`anteater`	`:-P`
`04:07.51`	`orange`	`~anteater--`
`04:07.52`	`kierra`	`i head to bed`
`04:07.52`	`orange`	`~anteater++`
`04:07.57`	`kierra`	`g'nite`
`04:07.59`	`anteater`	`ty`
`04:08.02`	`anteater`	`night k`
`04:08.05`	`orange`	`my second one didn't take`
`04:08.08`	`RedBaron2`	`what about me?`
`04:08.09`	`kierra`	`cu at 6am, orange????`
`04:08.14`	`anteater`	`eek`
`04:08.26`	`orange`	`actually I'll be up at 7am`
`04:08.27`	`anteater`	`i will still be sleeping like a baby :-D`
`04:08.32`	`kierra`	`ant, you and orange keep the same hours`
`04:08.48`	`kierra`	`wow, that is a switch, orange`
`04:08.52`	`kierra`	`i was teasing`
`04:09.00`	`orange`	`I have to take the boys to school`
`04:09.48`	`anteater`	`wife kick u out of the bed :-D ?`
`04:09.52`	`RedBaron2`	`lol`
`04:10.15`	`orange`	`she's with her mom`
`04:10.22`	`anteater`	`brb, i am going to go get an olive`
`04:10.34`	`RedBaron2`	`yuch`
`04:10.40`	`orange`	`just one olive?`
`04:11.20`	`kierra`	`olive branch for orange`
`04:11.22`	`kierra`	`?`
`04:11.53`	`orange`	`I'm always peaceful`
`04:11.58`	`orange`	`except when I'm playing pillbox :-)`
`04:12.05`	`orange`	`then I will shoot you mercilessly`
`04:12.10`	`RedBaron2`	`yea..orange is a regular terror on pillbox`
`04:12.13`	`orange`	`and your olive branch`
`04:12.29`	`kierra`	`i thought ant was making peace overtures for (23:10:19) anteater: wife kick u out of the bed :-D ?`
`04:12.41`	`anteater`	`i am back`
`04:12.41`	`RedBaron2`	`lol`
`04:12.42`	`orange`	`oh, that... I'm not easily offended :-)`
`04:13.05`	`kierra`	`which is to your credit and belies your maturity level`
`04:13.21`	`anteater`	`i got two olives`
`04:13.23`	`RedBaron2`	`well guys..i'm going to be heading off i guess..`
`04:13.27`	`anteater`	`i could not take just one`
`04:13.30`	`kierra`	`me too`
`04:13.37`	`RedBaron2`	`it's been along day, and tomorrow will probably be longer :-p`
`04:13.38`	`kierra`	`real olives, ant?`
`04:13.44`	`kierra`	`yuck`
`04:13.46`	`RedBaron2`	`better be getting my sleep`
`04:13.56`	`anteater`	`yep big onse`
`04:13.57`	`orange`	`I think I should be offended.`
`04:13.58`	`kierra`	`g'note`
`04:14.00`	`anteater`	`with a pit`
`04:14.02`	`orange`	`goodnight rb2`
`04:14.13`	`anteater`	`night rb2`
`04:14.46`	`anteater`	`~dub`
`04:14.57`	`anteater`	`hmmm`
`04:15.06`	`anteater`	`looks like i will just have to go c`
`04:15.13`	`anteater`	`night orange`
`04:17.12`	`orange`	`dropping like flies`
`04:37.18`	`SportChick`	`rb2!!!`
`04:37.22`	`SportChick`	`o`
`04:37.24`	`SportChick`	`he's gone`
`04:37.26`	`SportChick`	`nm`
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`14:53.25`	`SportChick`	`~log`
`14:53.26`	`jbot`	`i heard log is as piece of wood`
`14:53.29`	`SportChick`	`~logs`
`14:53.31`	`jbot`	`logs is probably http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz`
`14:59.03`	`Guu`	`New news from gumatches: Nov 28 02:00 => Insane Crazy Funsters:7, Chaos!!!:4`
`15:00.41`	`orange`	`pillbox coming up on silvercat`
`15:00.44`	`orange`	`1 minute`
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`15:27.20`	`SportChick`	`~dub`
`15:27.31`	`SportChick`	`~dub5156`
`15:29.50`	`SportChick`	`~dub59999`
`15:29.58`	`SportChick`	`~dub59998`
`15:30.07`	`SportChick`	`~gamesunited`
`15:30.25`	`kierra`	`sc has bz delirium tremens`
`15:30.51`	`SportChick`	`jbot: gu5154 is <action>bzfquery bzflag0.gamesunited.de:5154`
`15:30.52`	`jbot`	`okay, SportChick`
`15:30.57`	`SportChick`	`~gu5154`
`15:30.59`	`jbot`	`ACTION bzfquery bzflag0.gamesunited.de:5154`
`15:31.02`	`SportChick`	`grrr`
`15:31.10`	`SportChick`	`jbot: forget gu5154`
`15:31.10`	`jbot`	`i forgot gu5154, SportChick`
`15:31.20`	`SportChick`	`jbot: gu5154 is <repy>bzfquery bzflag0.gamesunited.de:5154`
`15:31.22`	`jbot`	`okay, SportChick`
`15:31.28`	`SportChick`	`~gu5154`
`15:31.30`	`jbot`	`i heard gu5154 is <repy>bzfquery bzflag0.gamesunited.de:5154`
`15:31.53`	`kierra`	`for some reason gu doesnt register`
`15:32.00`	`SportChick`	`hrm`
`15:32.03`	`SportChick`	`Guu: ping`
`15:32.04`	`Guu`	`pong`
`15:32.15`	`SportChick`	`jbot: forget gu5154`
`15:32.15`	`jbot`	`i forgot gu5154, SportChick`
`15:32.22`	`SportChick`	`jbot: gu5154 is <repy> bzfquery bzflag0.gamesunited.de:5154`
`15:32.24`	`jbot`	`SportChick: okay`
`15:32.27`	`SportChick`	`~gu5154`
`15:32.29`	`jbot`	`i guess gu5154 is <repy> bzfquery bzflag0.gamesunited.de:5154`
`15:33.01`	`kierra`	`lol`
`15:33.13`	`SportChick`	`~literal dub`
`15:33.14`	`jbot`	`"dub" is "<reply> see bzfquery dub.bzflag.org:5154"`
`15:33.20`	`SportChick`	`bah`
`15:33.22`	`SportChick`	`I forgot see`
`15:33.26`	`SportChick`	`jbot: forget gu5154`
`15:33.26`	`jbot`	`i forgot gu5154, SportChick`
`15:33.33`	`SportChick`	`jbot: gu5154 is <repy> see bzfquery bzflag0.gamesunited.de:5154`
`15:33.34`	`jbot`	`SportChick: okay`
`15:33.35`	`kierra`	`~dub`
`15:33.39`	`SportChick`	`~gu5154`
`15:33.41`	`jbot`	`from memory, gu5154 is <repy> see bzfquery bzflag0.gamesunited.de:5154`
`15:33.45`	`SportChick`	`grrr`
`15:33.47`	`kierra`	`rofl`
`15:34.18`	`SportChick`	`!lart jbot`
`15:34.52`	`orange`	`jbot, say !roulette`
`15:34.53`	`jbot`	`!roulette`
`15:34.54`	`Guu`	`BANG Hey, who put a blank in here?!`
`15:34.58`	`orange`	`oh well`
`15:35.06`	`SportChick`	`orange, what the heck did I do wrong?`
`15:35.24`	`SportChick`	`i.e., why won't ~gu5154 work?`
`15:35.34`	`orange`	`jbot, literal proxs`
`15:35.35`	`jbot`	`"proxs" is "<reply> see bzfquery proxs.bzflag.org:7001"`
`15:35.42`	`orange`	`jbot, literal gu5154`
`15:35.44`	`jbot`	`"gu5154" is "<repy> see bzfquery bzflag0.gamesunited.de:5154"`
`15:35.54`	`orange`	`~spell reply`
`15:35.59`	`SportChick`	`hehe`
`15:36.04`	`orange`	`~spell repy`
`15:36.04`	`SportChick`	`i didn't see that`
`15:36.10`	`SportChick`	`jbot: forget gu5154`
`15:36.10`	`jbot`	`SportChick: i forgot gu5154`
`15:36.14`	`orange`	`hehe`
`15:36.18`	`SportChick`	`jbot: gu5154 is <reply> see bzfquery bzflag0.gamesunited.de:5154`
`15:36.20`	`jbot`	`okay, SportChick`
`15:36.23`	`SportChick`	`~gu5154`
`15:36.31`	`SportChick`	`yay`
`15:36.37`	`SportChick`	`~tankwar`
`15:36.52`	`SportChick`	`~playground`
`15:38.04`	`SportChick`	`jbot: playground is <reply> see bzfquery playground.gamesunited.de:5159`
`15:38.06`	`jbot`	`okay, SportChick`
`15:39.14`	`SportChick`	`jbot: silvergu is <reply> see bzfquery silvercat.tybox.net:5159`
`15:39.16`	`jbot`	`okay, SportChick`
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`15:39.52`	`SportChick`	`~playground`
`15:40.23`	`SportChick`	`~tankwar`
`15:40.34`	`SportChick`	`oops, already did that one`
`15:40.37`	`SportChick`	`~silvergu`
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`16:05.30`	`RedBaron2`	`ping menotume`
`16:05.43`	`kierra`	`he's sleeping`
`16:05.54`	`kierra`	`most likely, anyway`
`16:06.20`	`RedBaron2`	`oh right..forgot about grampa's mid morning nap`
`16:06.41`	`kierra`	`right`
`16:07.55`	`eXtreme`	`~bzfquery tuxsux.hepcat.org`
`16:08.42`	`eXtreme`	`~bzfquery ladse.de`
`16:13.01`	`orange`	`~stab RedBaron2`
`16:13.02`	`jbot`	`ACTION runs at RedBaron2 with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.`
`16:13.47`	`RedBaron2`	`~bonk orange`
`16:13.49`	`jbot`	`ACTION bonks orange over the head`
`16:14.29`	`kierra`	`there he goes again`
`16:14.45`	`kierra`	`orange has latent aggressive tendencies`
`16:15.34`	`orange`	`kierra: I enjoyed your post about thanksgiving and charity`
`16:16.31`	`kierra`	`did you really? .....it didn't come across as a knee jerk reaction?`
`16:16.38`	`orange`	`it seems that many people would not be happy until we gave everything we had and were at the level of all the other people in the world`
`16:16.51`	`orange`	`i.e. true communism (without the evil connotations that often go with it)`
`16:17.06`	`orange`	`if we have more, and enjoy it, then we are evil ourselves`
`16:18.23`	`kierra`	`thank you Lord, there is a sane person here`
`16:18.30`	`kierra`	`thought i was the only one`
`16:18.38`	`orange`	`you and Death Barrel :-)`
`16:19.04`	`orange`	`Death Barrel, as always, puts his points rather indelicately, but for the most part he is right.`
`16:19.47`	`kierra`	`his following mine made me cringe`
`16:19.58`	`kierra`	`but his last two were good`
`16:39.27`	`SportChick`	`~dub59998`
`16:39.49`	`SportChick`	`~dub59999`
`16:55.52`	`kierra`	`~dub`
`16:56.10`	`kierra`	`~dub5156`
`16:58.32`	`SportChick`	`~dub`
`17:01.21`	`menotume`	`SportChick: i'm sry :(`
`17:01.32`	`menotume`	`there have been 3 or 4 player changes since`
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`17:03.38`	`menotume`	`crap, now i can't play ... i'd feel quilty joining`
`17:04.40`	`eXtreme`	`why would you be feeling "quilty"? :D`
`17:09.06`	`menotume`	`i kicked her`
`17:09.25`	`menotume`	`she was waiting for a spot, and when she got one, i kicked her`
`17:09.38`	`menotume`	`someone else jumped in b4 i could save her spot`
`17:10.04`	`SportChick`	`menotume: come back and play - I'm already in htere`
`17:10.14`	`SportChick`	`didn't trust you not to kick me again :)`
`17:10.20`	`menotume`	`ahhh, thx - i'll come back l8r`
`17:10.26`	`menotume`	`ahhhh :)`
`17:10.53`	`menotume`	`good :)`
`17:18.10`	`SportChick`	`menotume: but you are a big meanie! I WANTED to be on the green team to shoot the line jumper`
`17:18.45`	`menotume`	`yes i am. 'line jumper' ?`
`17:21.57`	`catay`	`lol`
`17:22.09`	`catay`	`seems like sc is back :p`
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`19:16.08`	`Mr_Mole1`	`woot woot`
`19:18.16`	`SportChick`	`hehe`
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`19:47.24`	`Guu`	`New news from matches: Nov 28 19:44 => [HoW] Hell On Wheels:9, Bz Incorporated:3`
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`20:08.47`	`Birdie`	`orange ping`
`20:11.53`	`Birdie`	`or..menotume or pimpinella will be able to help me to`
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`20:22.20`	`orange`	`Birdie: pong`
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`20:55.04`	`kierra`	`menotume ping`
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`20:56.39`	`Guu`	`New news from matches: Nov 28 20:53 => [HoW] Hell On Wheels:8, Bz Incorporated:4`
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`21:19.03`	`*** topic/#bzleague is /BZFlag players and league chat \|\| Also see #bzchat \|\| Pictures of bzplayers: http://pics.bzleague.com \|\| Locations of bzplayers: http://www.frappr.com/bzflagplayers \|\| dv to Florida in 3 months and counting!! \|\| When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber. \|\| beware the elephants \|\| free orange, now with enhanced meaning \|`
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`22:22.41`	`Guu`	`New news from matches: Nov 28 22:19 => MTC:9, Bz Incorporated:5`
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`22:37.18`	`CBG`	`Boo!`
`22:39.45`	`Mr_Molez`	`:)`
`22:43.58`	`CBG`	`heya baby`
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`22:45.42`	`brad2901`	`~lart CBG`
`22:45.49`	`CBG`	`:/`
`22:46.00`	`CBG`	`want me to call you baby too, brad2901?`
`22:46.43`	`brad2901`	`Call me what ever you want.`
`22:47.22`	`CBG`	`ok babblefluff`
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`22:48.33`	`CBG`	`yay, someone interesting :)`
`22:49.00`	`Mr_Molez`	`CBG: you being weird again ?`
`22:49.03`	`CBG`	`hello kierra`
`22:49.09`	`kierra`	`hello cbg`
`22:49.11`	`CBG`	`No baby, why you say that?`
`22:49.29`	`Mr_Molez`	`just checking :P`
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`22:49.56`	`CBG`	`:)`
`22:50.15`	`kierra`	`me?...interesting?`
`22:50.27`	`CBG`	`more so than most, kierra. :)`
`22:50.33`	`CBG`	`Molez is on drugs? oh my...`
`22:50.59`	`kierra`	`thx, cbg, dont let my head get too big...keep me humble`
`22:51.06`	`CBG`	`:D`
`22:52.07`	`Mr_Molez`	`nah the drug that i put in ur malteser :P`
`22:52.17`	`CBG`	`O_O`
`22:52.31`	`CBG`	`w-wh-what d-drug?`
`22:52.33`	`Mr_Molez`	`maybe u didnt have enough... want another 1 ?`
`22:52.40`	`CBG`	`ok :D`
`22:52.51`	`Mr_Molez`	`oh just something so i can take advantage of u :)`
`22:53.04`	`CBG`	`you need a drug for that?`
`22:53.11`	`kierra`	`bbiam`
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`22:53.40`	`Mr_Molez`	`ohhhh, :D`
`22:53.45`	`CBG`	`:D`
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`22:55.44`	`brad2901`	`bbiam?`
`22:55.51`	`CBG`	`be back i a min..`
`22:55.55`	`CBG`	`took me a min to work it out..`
`22:55.57`	`brad2901`	`ok :(`
`22:55.59`	`CBG`	`..`
`22:56.09`	`kierra`	`:)`
`22:56.10`	`brad2901`	`didn't see that one at all`
`22:56.25`	`CBG`	`cool-people-only one ;)`
`22:57.16`	`brad2901`	`Pff, ok. :(`
`22:57.33`	`CBG`	`:P babblefluff`
`23:00.35`	`kierra`	`sportchick ping`
`23:00.52`	`SportChick`	`kierra : pong`
`23:01.17`	`Birdie`	`the one young girl pings the other:)`
`23:01.37`	`kierra`	`hey`
`23:01.45`	`CBG`	`is ping pong girl only game or can I play too?`
`23:02.46`	`brad2901`	`CBG: want a game?`
`23:02.59`	`brad2901`	`I'll start`
`23:02.59`	`CBG`	`of ping pong? :)`
`23:03.02`	`SportChick`	`kierra: do a test`
`23:03.03`	`brad2901`	`\| .`
`23:03.16`	`CBG`	`. \|`
`23:03.28`	`brad2901`	`\| .`
`23:03.43`	`CBG`	`: \|`
`23:03.46`	`brad2901`	`\| .`
`23:03.50`	`CBG`	`oh no, someone else ball hit our table...`
`23:03.53`	`brad2901`	`:/`
`23:03.57`	`CBG`	`pff...`
`23:04.02`	`CBG`	`' \|`
`23:04.19`	`brad2901`	`~slap CBG`
`23:04.20`	`jbot`	`ACTION slaps CBG, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!`
`23:04.26`	`CBG`	`:/`
`23:04.43`	`CBG`	`bstooopid babblefluff`
`23:05.06`	`kierra`	`sc`
`23:05.10`	`kierra`	`now it works`
`23:05.20`	`SportChick`	`weird`
`23:05.51`	`CBG`	`dont be so nasty sc!`
`23:05.59`	`CBG`	`kierra isn't weird... much :)`
`23:06.19`	`kierra`	`i am probably more wierd than you can imagine`
`23:06.25`	`CBG`	`no chance.`
`23:06.37`	`CBG`	`I'm weirdest!`
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`23:42.59`	`CBG`	`g2g, coming up to midnight here`
`23:43.12`	`Mr_Molez`	`cu`
`23:43.17`	`CBG`	`cya baby :)`
`23:43.37`	`Birdie`	`its 0.43:(`
`23:43.46`	`Birdie`	`<----------- skips lessons tomorrow:)`
`23:43.46`	`Mr_Molez`	`pfft`
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