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| 00:28.11 | Birdie | ~dict sulking |
| 00:28.17 | Birdie | ~dict sulk |
| 00:29.12 | *** mode/#bzleague [+v tokimi] by SportChick |
| 00:29.15 | tokimi | yay |
| 00:29.17 | tokimi | i can talk now!! |
| 00:29.30 | Birdie | sorry didnt saw |
| 00:29.44 | tokimi | it stopped letting me talk yesterday, when i logged in from school |
| 00:30.05 | Birdie | i would give you autovoice but i dont have enough ops for that |
| 00:30.14 | tokimi | meh, best to be safe |
| 00:30.32 | Birdie | if molez wouldnt spam like a little child, we wouldnt have to do this:) |
| 00:30.37 | tokimi | i smell dinner, brb |
| 00:36.59 | tokimi | mmmm, chicken pot pie, and rolls + strawberry jam |
| 00:37.06 | tokimi | my mother LOVES me |
| 00:37.16 | Birdie | lol |
| 00:37.22 | Birdie | you look happy like a little child:) |
| 00:37.28 | tokimi | hmm |
| 00:37.36 | tokimi | havnt eaten all day... so probrally |
| 00:37.39 | Birdie | :) |
| 00:38.22 | tokimi | ~dict sulkiness |
| 00:38.46 | tokimi | =p |
| 00:38.57 | tokimi | tease tease chick |
| 00:39.06 | tokimi | ~dict tease |
| 00:39.16 | Birdie | ~dict harass |
| 00:40.37 | tokimi | ~dict slaughter |
| 00:41.14 | Birdie | <------------------- needs his beautysleep:) |
| 00:41.29 | tokimi | night |
| 00:41.35 | Birdie | goodnight |
| 00:48.16 | tokimi | bored |
| 00:48.16 | tokimi | ~bored |
| 00:48.20 | jbot | La ... lalalala ... beer! |
| 00:48.20 | tokimi | ~dict bored |
| 00:48.35 | tokimi | beer!! |
| 00:48.40 | tokimi | ~beer |
| 00:48.41 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, beer is ummm, ummm good!, or good for you!... not just for breakfast anymore |
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| 01:03.24 | CBG | :) |
| 01:03.30 | CBG | Does anyone have an AIM/MSN/etc address for "Mr_Molez"...? |
| 01:03.51 | brad2901 | nope |
| 01:04.45 | CBG | How do you know? :P |
| 01:04.55 | CBG | And how was the match...? |
| 01:06.02 | brad2901 | what match? |
| 01:06.04 | brad2901 | still playing it |
| 01:06.51 | CBG | lolzz |
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| 01:08.56 | CBG | ==]] |
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| 05:56.04 | *** topic/#bzleague is BZFlag players and league chat || READ THE FAQ: bzleague.com/ChanGuide || Also see #bzchat || Pictures of bzplayers: http://pics.bzleague.com || Locations of bzplayers: http://www.frappr.com/bzflagplayers || dv to Florida in 4 weeks !! || if you dont have a voice and need one, ask an op |
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| 13:36.11 | brad2901 | n/cs voice #bzleague sussi |
| 13:36.13 | *** mode/#bzleague [+v sussi] by ChanServ |
| 13:38.18 | sussi | i'm going to write some words about my team |
| 13:38.42 | Pimpi | sussi: joining bzleague requires invitation now? |
| 13:39.04 | sussi | i dont have material for the first period, is there any in dthe database? |
| 13:39.29 | sussi | indeed, first i thought bzleague was removed |
| 13:39.47 | sussi | perhaps the mailbox |
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| 13:40.00 | Pimpi | material? whatya actually talking about? |
| 13:40.14 | Pimpi | wb captain ;) |
| 13:40.47 | sussi | the mailbox, i left any bz-mail what date who left/join in the mailbox |
| 13:41.29 | sussi | i forgot the date of the first creation |
| 13:42.41 | brad2901 | is this for easy kill? |
| 13:42.47 | brad2901 | "Created:2004-11-14" |
| 13:42.49 | sussi | yep |
| 13:43.08 | brad2901 | it says that at http://my.bzflag.org/league/index.php?link=teaminfo&id=529 |
| 13:44.33 | sussi | and closed the first time u know who was in this time |
| 13:45.11 | *** mode/#bzleague [+v |zongo|] by ChanServ |
| 13:45.18 | sussi | i revived it on 2005-8-7 |
| 13:45.23 | |zongo| | wth |
| 13:45.52 | |zongo| | <---wanna play |
| 13:45.56 | sussi | i'm looking for some datas about easy_kill/first period |
| 13:46.03 | sussi | match? |
| 13:46.14 | |zongo| | if i have teammates sure |
| 13:46.23 | |zongo| | first i need some warm up though |
| 13:46.27 | |zongo| | <---goes to dub |
| 13:46.40 | sussi | 1 second |
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| 13:48.28 | sussi | i'm looking for some datas about easy_kill/first period |
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| 14:55.29 | brlcad | it needs to be invite only? |
| 14:55.37 | *** part/#bzleague brlcad (n=sean@pdpc/supporter/silver/brlcad) |
| 15:02.30 | menotume | what ? |
| 15:20.35 | meacan | i think he means +r |
| 15:21.02 | meacan | but that is a pure guesstimation :) |
| 15:21.11 | brad2901 | sussi said something in #bzflag about bzleague being invite only... maybe that was it |
| 15:21.25 | quantumdot | just like GU league is |
| 15:21.37 | quantumdot | i have heard it before |
| 15:21.48 | brad2901 | nope... that's +m (moderated) :) |
| 15:22.01 | meacan | +r means that you need to be identified before you can join |
| 15:22.18 | meacan | if sussi wasnt identified, he might have belived ti was invite-only? |
| 15:22.20 | quantumdot | iah i thought he meant the league, not just the channel |
| 15:23.10 | meacan | i hope we're talking about the channel :) |
| 15:26.13 | Birdie | i couldnt join here automatically either |
| 15:26.19 | *** mode/#bzleague [-r] by menotume |
| 15:26.32 | menotume | ya, cause the auto-join happens before the ident |
| 15:26.38 | Birdie | oh |
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| 15:41.19 | menotume | ~Birdie++ |
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| 15:57.45 | ToughShooter | menotume: I had this problem 60% of time but after client update I am always registered before joining |
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| 16:17.44 | menotume | ToughShooter: yes, depends on how fast nickserv is |
| 16:18.17 | ToughShooter | menotume: X-Chat Aqua now waits until the client is identified :) |
| 16:25.10 | ToughShooter | menotume: Do you know much about networks? |
| 16:25.42 | menotume | hmmm, not really |
| 16:26.15 | ToughShooter | :(( |
| 16:28.12 | meacan | the cable goes from computer to "internet" .. cant be that hard :) |
| 16:28.57 | menotume | lol |
| 16:28.59 | menotume | hi meacan |
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| 16:29.10 | ToughShooter | nonono, I don't understand why I get loss at a certain server but others don't |
| 16:29.30 | meacan | hi menotume |
| 16:29.53 | menotume | bad route |
| 16:30.04 | ToughShooter | ... |
| 16:30.05 | meacan | ToughShooter: because your packets are travelling anohter route to the server |
| 16:30.13 | *** mode/#bzleague [+v CBG_] by ChanServ |
| 16:30.54 | ToughShooter | see: http://pastebin.com/505461 , my path: http://pastebin.com/505447 , loss begins for me at 3rd hop |
| 16:32.01 | ToughShooter | enlighten me please :( |
| 16:32.43 | teasing | you packets travel through many 'routes' |
| 16:33.01 | meacan | we're downloading so i cant perform a test to see if we get the same behaviour |
| 16:33.05 | teasing | think of a 'route' as another hub or router somewhere |
| 16:33.42 | teasing | ToughShooter: what O/s ? |
| 16:33.42 | ToughShooter | yes, they are all routers between me and the target |
| 16:33.49 | teasing | right |
| 16:33.49 | ToughShooter | OS X |
| 16:34.16 | teasing | /usr/sbin/traceroute dub.bzflag.org |
| 16:34.18 | meacan | i just tried bbrt.hb-1-so-1-0-2.ewe-ip-backbone.de - is pretty slow here |
| 16:34.49 | teasing | if there is a problem (overloaded) at any of the routers, a packet can be lost |
| 16:34.50 | ToughShooter | p54b01e9f:~ ts$ host bbrt.ffm-0-so-0-1-2.ewe-ip-backbone.de |
| 16:34.50 | ToughShooter | Host bbrt.ffm-0-so-0-1-2.ewe-ip-backbone.de not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
| 16:34.51 | ToughShooter | p54b01e9f:~ ts$ host 80.228.109.253 |
| 16:34.51 | ToughShooter | 253.109.228.80.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer bbrt.ffm-0-so-0-1-2.ewe-ip-backbone.de. |
| 16:35.02 | ToughShooter | That does not make sense for me, either |
| 16:36.03 | ToughShooter | menotume: http://pastebin.com/505484 |
| 16:36.37 | menotume | that's a pretty short route (not many hops) |
| 16:36.51 | ToughShooter | yes, I like dub :) |
| 16:38.46 | meacan | ToughShooter: the guys who dosnt have problems with packets loss -have you tried to get them to make a traceroute? |
| 16:39.03 | ToughShooter | menotume: but how does that help me with my GU loss problem (many players have loss there)? |
| 16:39.03 | meacan | it seems like its ewe-ip-backbone.de that is bad |
| 16:39.32 | menotume | well, that could just be GU, or a router 'near' it |
| 16:39.45 | menotume | like .... ewe-ip-backbone.de ? |
| 16:40.17 | meacan | some parts of the network are better than others |
| 16:40.20 | ToughShooter | menotume: I have sent 100pings to the servers in my path to GU, at bbrt.ffm-0-so-0-1-2.ewe-ip-backbone.de the loss started |
| 16:40.37 | menotume | well, there you go |
| 16:41.03 | ToughShooter | Does that mean this server is responsible for the loss? |
| 16:41.15 | menotume | welll |
| 16:41.16 | meacan | probably |
| 16:41.21 | menotume | or the one before it |
| 16:41.29 | ToughShooter | and why don't get others loss that ping that server? |
| 16:41.40 | meacan | they may not use it |
| 16:42.20 | ToughShooter | Hmm, when they ping bbrt.ffm-0-so-0-1-2.ewe-ip-backbone.de why don't they get loss? I mean, the loss starts there for me |
| 16:42.21 | meacan | thats why i asked you if you have a traceroute from someone without the problems |
| 16:42.57 | ToughShooter | Well, I know all people who don't use t-com backbone don't have the problem |
| 16:43.00 | menotume | bbrt.hb-1-so-1-0-1.ewe-ip-backbone.de (80.228.109.53) |
| 16:43.01 | menotume | and |
| 16:43.07 | menotume | bbrt.ol-0-ge-7-0-7.ewe-ip-backbone.de (80.228.98.101) |
| 16:43.10 | menotume | different ones |
| 16:44.21 | ToughShooter | huh? |
| 16:44.31 | meacan | menotume is a smart guy :) |
| 16:44.33 | ToughShooter | so you use different servers from ewe? |
| 16:45.05 | menotume | call them and complain :P Phone: +49-441-8000-0 |
| 16:45.06 | ToughShooter | I can't force my packets to go another way, can I? |
| 16:45.18 | menotume | not that i know of |
| 16:45.25 | meacan | bbrt.hb-1-so-1-0-2.ewe-ip-backbone.de (80.228.109.61) <- gives me a 140ms delay |
| 16:45.32 | ToughShooter | menotume: That information is not allowed to be published here |
| 16:45.35 | menotume | ahhh |
| 16:45.45 | menotume | it's public (whois) |
| 16:45.53 | ToughShooter | You have violated DENIC's rules |
| 16:46.32 | menotume | that's the dns tech contact anyway :) |
| 16:46.49 | menotume | ~lart menotume for violating DENIC's rules |
| 16:46.59 | menotume | ok, it won't ahppen again, jbot |
| 16:47.44 | ToughShooter | Is tech-c the correct one to contact? |
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| 16:51.03 | meacan | urgh |
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| 17:08.23 | CBG | :) |
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| 20:31.59 | brad2901 | ~tlz |
| 20:32.03 | jbot | somebody said tlz was [TLZ] - "The Legendary ZeeBrothers" - http://www.zeebrothers.de - [TLZ] |
| 20:32.07 | brad2901 | ~bzfquery tlx.bzflag.org:59999 |
| 20:32.11 | brad2901 | ~bzfquery tlz.bzflag.org:59999 |
| 20:32.32 | menotume | ALERT: Birdie is matching !! |
| 20:33.02 | brad2901 | wth.. I can't connect |
| 20:33.12 | brad2901 | 1 min left on the clock:( |
| 20:33.18 | menotume | ? |
| 20:34.37 | brad2901 | dunno |
| 20:34.40 | brad2901 | im in now |
| 20:34.45 | brad2901 | a few got disconnected |
| 20:34.51 | brad2901 | and lag is like 1000ms |
| 20:35.02 | brad2901 | one more thing: can you enter a match?:) |
| 20:36.42 | brad2901 | whenever someone wants to.. please report: |
| 20:36.59 | brad2901 | TE vs ToK: 8-3 |
| 20:37.07 | brad2901 | just finished |
| 20:48.04 | menotume | brad2901: entered |
| 20:54.37 | brad2901 | thanks menotume |
| 20:54.47 | menotume | np |
| 20:54.50 | menotume | yw |
| 20:54.52 | menotume | any time |
| 20:55.49 | brad2901 | :) |
| 21:11.23 | sussi | ek vs bzb 6:0 |
| 21:33.00 | menotume | entered |
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| 21:57.37 | quantumdot | match match match |
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| 22:27.57 | menotume | match match match |
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| 22:55.32 | CBG | Thanks. |
| 23:05.32 | menotume | <ChanServ> you're welcome |
| 23:07.04 | CBG | :D |
| 23:13.31 | CBG | tss... |
| 23:14.48 | menotume | quantumdot: have you noticed that the Barbarians haven't been in any of the last 9 matches ? |
| 23:15.44 | menotume | we're gonna lose our second-place activity rating to BZB soon |
| 23:15.54 | quantumdot | oh |
| 23:15.58 | menotume | :) |
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