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| 00:08.23 | orange | yay [dmp] :-) |
| 00:09.28 | [dmp] | :) |
| 00:24.10 | menotume | does that mean that [dmp] can come out to play now ? |
| 01:49.30 | orange | what's the difference between 'fast' and 'fast sorted' radar? |
| 01:49.55 | CBG | orange: the latter is also sorted. duh. :) |
| 01:50.35 | orange | like you'd know, colorblindguy ;-) |
| 01:51.38 | CBG | :P |
| 01:52.11 | CBG | I hate those "No-Radar" maps. |
| 01:52.20 | CBG | Whats the point in that? :/ |
| 01:52.40 | CBG | Which is why I am working on a Radar-Only map. :P |
| 01:52.46 | orange | hehehe |
| 01:52.49 | CBG | Coming soon to a server near you. |
| 01:52.54 | orange | darkness? |
| 01:53.02 | CBG | All objects will be transparent and all tanks will have CL. |
| 01:53.02 | orange | all flat black features? |
| 01:53.12 | orange | sounds like fun :-) |
| 01:53.13 | CBG | well, black could work too. |
| 01:53.17 | eXtreme | cloaking for all? |
| 01:53.22 | CBG | yep. |
| 01:53.25 | eXtreme | that sounds.. |
| 01:53.27 | eXtreme | erm |
| 01:53.30 | eXtreme | :/ |
| 01:53.36 | CBG | Using L4m3rs bzfs hack to give everyone CL when they spawn. |
| 01:53.49 | CBG | Hopefully he can modify it for me a bit, so that they can't drop it. |
| 01:54.08 | CBG | Or just give them the "power" of CL without having the flag if that's possible. |
| 01:54.11 | eXtreme | give everyone stealth aswell.. |
| 01:54.14 | CBG | no. |
| 01:54.18 | eXtreme | :) |
| 01:54.20 | CBG | it's a Radar-Only map... |
| 01:54.27 | CBG | no ST flags allowed. |
| 01:54.40 | eXtreme | bah you're no fun |
| 01:55.01 | CBG | it'll be better than No-Radar stupidness |
| 01:55.07 | CBG | yay. thanks green |
| 01:55.42 | eXtreme | hills and no radar is the bestest |
| 01:57.00 | CBG | if you are a n00b and never use radar-sure |
| 01:57.10 | CBG | maybe I rely on it *too* much :/ |
| 01:57.16 | eXtreme | right |
| 01:57.31 | CBG | but most good players use radar more than the HUD, afaik... |
| 01:57.39 | CBG | so my map will be more popular for them :P |
| 01:57.51 | CBG | I'll get the barons, you get smarkid and DJ atomica |
| 01:57.52 | CBG | have fun. |
| 01:57.52 | eXtreme | if you say so ;) |
| 01:57.57 | eXtreme | heh |
| 01:58.42 | Mr_Molez | whats that you say,, ducati style with only radar ?? sounds good :P |
| 01:59.23 | CBG | I can make all sorts of styles. |
| 01:59.30 | CBG | I can take pre-existing maps too. |
| 01:59.41 | CBG | Just make everything clear/black and give everyone CL. |
| 01:59.59 | eXtreme | fun for cheaters |
| 02:01.29 | CBG | eh? |
| 02:02.11 | eXtreme | surely you'll get cheaters being able to see everyone |
| 02:02.18 | CBG | bleh |
| 02:02.32 | CBG | they can do that anyway...? |
| 02:02.42 | eXtreme | ... |
| 02:02.54 | eXtreme | I thought this was radar only |
| 02:03.04 | Mr_Molez | so it makes no differnce.. its not like looking at the hud makes u play better |
| 02:03.18 | Mr_Molez | makes u play worse imo |
| 02:03.19 | eXtreme | it helps having both hud and radar |
| 02:03.22 | CBG | eXtreme: there will be walls and objects, etc |
| 02:03.33 | Mr_Molez | no it doesn't not on ducati.. only radar on ducati :P |
| 02:03.34 | CBG | either all black so yuo can't usually see the tanks |
| 02:03.44 | CBG | or clear so you can see them but they are behind stuff |
| 02:03.50 | CBG | (if you cheat) |
| 02:04.13 | eXtreme | heh k I'm done |
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| 13:16.18 | TheRedBaron | I'm here to spy on Orange :) |
| 13:16.30 | kierra | lol |
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| 13:16.35 | kierra | so much for spying |
| 13:16.41 | TheRedBaron | i'd be here to spy on orange, if I could stay connected long enough |
| 13:16.58 | kierra | i'll keep an eye on him for you |
| 13:17.03 | kierra | both eyes |
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| 13:58.34 | TheRedBaron | orange: ping :-D |
| 14:00.38 | TheRedBaron | Orange: weee, I'll get back to you, i'm running off to a meeting |
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| 14:05.34 | quantumdot | TheRedBaron: ping |
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| 14:06.08 | TheRedBaron | quantumdot: pong |
| 14:06.33 | quantumdot | TheRedBaron: did you find the time to go down to the public library yet ;) |
| 14:06.57 | TheRedBaron | quantumdot: i ordered it from the library |
| 14:07.04 | quantumdot | great! |
| 14:07.12 | TheRedBaron | I always welcome an intruiging thought provoking read |
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| 14:08.20 | TheRedBaron | quantumdot: and I oft read books that contradict, refute, and reject beliefs similar to mine. merely to see what is out there, and what people believe |
| 14:08.34 | quantumdot | even if you end up realizing that it may well all be true and proved, although that doesnt help you in your search for the meaning of everything |
| 14:09.03 | TheRedBaron | but why a life and existence without meaning? |
| 14:09.38 | quantumdot | you still do not understand: science cannot give you an answer to that |
| 14:09.55 | quantumdot | or if it does, probably is not what you were looking for |
| 14:10.00 | quantumdot | or wanted to hear |
| 14:10.00 | TheRedBaron | no I understand completely, the limits of science |
| 14:10.06 | quantumdot | alright |
| 14:10.18 | TheRedBaron | but life is more than science |
| 14:10.18 | quantumdot | that's the way one has to look at science |
| 14:10.26 | quantumdot | i never sad not |
| 14:10.47 | quantumdot | there can even be human life with no science at all :) |
| 14:10.57 | quantumdot | said* |
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| 14:13.07 | TheRedBaron | quantumdot: but how do we know that its human life, if science doesn't tell us? |
| 14:13.10 | TheRedBaron | :) |
| 14:13.58 | quantumdot | you mean: how do we know there is? or how do we know what is? |
| 14:14.32 | TheRedBaron | both :) |
| 14:15.24 | quantumdot | that we exist, as cognitive and thinking beings, must be a starting hypothesis imho |
| 14:16.04 | quantumdot | Descartes tried to prove it, but his proof has several failures |
| 14:16.21 | TheRedBaron | but each man must do that for himself, and another cannot do it for another |
| 14:16.32 | TheRedBaron | no man can say to another - You think therefore you are. |
| 14:16.40 | quantumdot | i prefer to think of our existence (whatever that means) as starting point, |
| 14:16.57 | quantumdot | alright |
| 14:16.59 | TheRedBaron | so you start, without science |
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| 14:20.08 | quantumdot | there are a few good scientific books on cognition and sense of oneself existence, but I must confess I never got much from reading them but the feeling is all mysticism and no much science there |
| 14:21.03 | quantumdot | in the end: conscience or soul cannot be measured as such, so according to scientific practice one should assume they arent proved yet |
| 14:21.31 | TheRedBaron | yet to deny them? |
| 14:22.08 | quantumdot | TheRedBaron: not scientific existence does not mean they are not there, but they are by now far from scientific scope |
| 14:22.44 | quantumdot | it is like love: you cannot deny there exists, even if you cant quantify it or measure it as such |
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| 14:23.18 | TheRedBaron | so you accept theories and hypothesis about the immateralistic? |
| 14:23.37 | quantumdot | at the moment science cannot explain why and how our brain thinks |
| 14:23.51 | quantumdot | no i dont accept them |
| 14:23.55 | orange | TheRedBaron: if you spy on me, you either believe I exist, or you are wasting your time :-) |
| 14:24.03 | quantumdot | heheeh orange |
| 14:24.06 | quantumdot | good one |
| 14:24.30 | CBG | quantumdot: I have something I have been thinking about.... |
| 14:24.31 | quantumdot | i can only believe in your cyberexistence |
| 14:24.41 | quantumdot | orange: i can only believe in your cyberexistence |
| 14:24.51 | quantumdot | the real one i have no proof of :) |
| 14:24.58 | quantumdot | you may even be a bot |
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| 14:25.08 | orange | quantumdot: and how does orange: i can only believe in your cyberexistence make you feel? |
| 14:25.15 | CBG | How do we know, that when we look at a colour which we call "Red" that we are seeing the same "Red" as someone else? Once there was someone that looked at something, lets call it "Colour One" and they said "That is Red". They looked at "Colour Two" and said "that is Blue". Now, imagine that a second person looks at Colour One and sees the colour called "Blue" and looks at Colour Two and sees "Red". All the time that they see "Blue" th |
| 14:25.23 | TheRedBaron | orange: of course, there has to be meaning to life, or we are all waisting our time. :) |
| 14:25.46 | CBG | TheRedBaron: we aren't all wasting our time? |
| 14:25.56 | quantumdot | colors are brain interpretations CBG |
| 14:25.57 | CBG | Dang. I should put more effort into "life" then. |
| 14:26.09 | quantumdot | color does not exist, just in our brain |
| 14:26.13 | CBG | quantumdot: so what I think of as "Red" may be "green" to you? |
| 14:26.34 | TheRedBaron | CBG - its called color-blindness, a medical condition |
| 14:26.42 | CBG | heh |
| 14:26.51 | quantumdot | there is even a disorder, Daltonism, associated with that |
| 14:26.52 | CBG | I tell you, orange is green in my brain. |
| 14:27.02 | CBG | my brain is malfunctioning, orange. :( |
| 14:27.28 | quantumdot | the brain is trained to transform wavelengths of light into color textures for it to remember |
| 14:27.43 | quantumdot | color as such does not exist |
| 14:28.05 | quantumdot | but all is wavelength |
| 14:28.18 | CBG | eesh |
| 14:28.22 | TheRedBaron | He's right |
| 14:28.28 | quantumdot | there are many wavelengths we cannot even see |
| 14:28.31 | TheRedBaron | along with radio waves, Tv waves |
| 14:28.34 | TheRedBaron | ultra violet |
| 14:28.36 | TheRedBaron | infra red |
| 14:28.43 | quantumdot | like TV or radio or Xrays |
| 14:28.44 | TheRedBaron | all wavelengths, just like the "color" we see |
| 14:28.57 | TheRedBaron | except our eyes are not wired/designed to interpret them |
| 14:29.01 | TheRedBaron | so we do not see them |
| 14:29.05 | quantumdot | correct |
| 14:29.31 | quantumdot | our eyes just lack the receptors for all thse |
| 14:30.16 | CBG | right |
| 14:30.19 | TheRedBaron | quantumdot: what about about the emotion typically referred to as "guilt" |
| 14:30.28 | TheRedBaron | where does that come from? |
| 14:30.30 | CBG | orange: this could all explain why I see you as green! |
| 14:30.51 | quantumdot | we dont know TheRedBaron |
| 14:30.57 | quantumdot | or i dont i would say |
| 14:31.37 | quantumdot | emotions are very human, only some advanced mammal have shown emotions too |
| 14:31.53 | quantumdot | like primates, dogs, cats, ... |
| 14:32.10 | orange | ColorBlindGuy: I don't think there is any real excuse for your insanity ;-) |
| 14:32.23 | quantumdot | this is part of what i said before: science does not understand brain yet |
| 14:33.07 | menotume | the brain is just a very highly advanced computer |
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| 14:33.33 | CBG | insanity? :( |
| 14:33.50 | CBG | menotume: correction: the brain is a very unstable computer |
| 14:33.54 | CBG | mine at least :D |
| 14:36.00 | quantumdot | menotume: from a computer (any kind you can think of or envisage) to a brain, particularly a human brain, there is a 10^100 increase in complexity and power |
| 14:36.26 | quantumdot | they are designed for very different tasks |
| 14:36.56 | quantumdot | no computer architecture can resemblance what a brain does |
| 14:37.09 | CBG | not yet. not ever? |
| 14:37.27 | quantumdot | no one thinks that will be posible CBG, not based on silico |
| 14:37.44 | CBG | not in a billion years? |
| 14:38.02 | CBG | see how far we have progressed in the last 100 years |
| 14:38.15 | quantumdot | before organic (self-asambled and self-organized) computers can be grown |
| 14:38.43 | CBG | though, I don't think computers that powerful is a good idea |
| 14:38.44 | quantumdot | it's a problem in the roots of what we see as architecture |
| 14:39.01 | CBG | just see the documentaries called "Terminator" and "The Matrix" :o |
| 14:39.13 | TheRedBaron | hollywood :) |
| 14:39.19 | quantumdot | computers compute, calculate: our brains are bad in doing that, our brains reason, think and interpret patterns and feelings |
| 14:39.24 | TheRedBaron | not a solid basis of reality :) |
| 14:39.26 | CBG | TheRedBaron: factual documentaries |
| 14:39.28 | quantumdot | that's 10^100 more complex than any computer |
| 14:39.29 | CBG | :P |
| 14:39.31 | Mr_Molez | CBG: lol you watch too much tv :P |
| 14:39.36 | CBG | I do not. |
| 14:39.44 | CBG | I don't watch much at all. :P |
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| 14:39.55 | menotume | quantumdot: yes, agreed |
| 14:40.19 | menotume | the brain is our computer in 1000 years |
| 14:40.24 | menotume | :) |
| 14:40.33 | quantumdot | bah |
| 14:40.36 | menotume | and, it DOESN'T run WinDoze |
| 14:40.49 | TheRedBaron | ack! |
| 14:40.49 | Mr_Molez | not a womans brain I hope |
| 14:41.01 | CBG | lol |
| 14:51.56 | Birdie | molez: if sc or kierra was here you would have been muted and kicked:) |
| 14:51.56 | quantumdot | menotume: we will not able to construct anything similar to a liver, let alone a brain |
| 14:51.56 | Mr_Molez | Birdie: ;) |
| 14:51.56 | menotume | i don't think the key is in trying to directly create a liver |
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| 15:13.31 | TheRedBaron | orange: ping |
| 15:13.40 | orange | TheRedBaron: pong |
| 15:13.57 | TheRedBaron | orange: ah yes, I've been elected to contact you for an interview |
| 15:14.15 | orange | contact my press agent |
| 15:14.32 | TheRedBaron | You're going to be the next feature in "Gn00bie's Documentary - the unknown history, of well known bzflag players" |
| 15:15.12 | TheRedBaron | we are most curious as to if you will condone our efforts |
| 15:15.24 | TheRedBaron | we are not looking for permission to run your story, we'll run it anyway :) |
| 15:16.14 | TheRedBaron | we would just like a few random truths from you to twist and convolute, so as the public will find it appealing and amusing |
| 15:16.36 | TheRedBaron | how does tuesday afternoon look? or is that too early on such a notice? :) |
| 15:17.57 | orange | hmmm, I'm not sure I should be the next feature if gn00bie is still mad at me... I'd rather he do it when he's happy with me :-) |
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| 15:19.05 | TheRedBaron | orange: actually, Its all my idea. however, i'm running under the guise and banner of gn00bie's documentary. and he's my co-producer and partner in crime :) |
| 15:22.49 | orange | TheRedBaron: I'm really afraid |
| 15:23.34 | TheRedBaron | orange: oh come really, the only thing to fear, is fear itself |
| 15:23.40 | orange | I fear that too |
| 15:23.50 | TheRedBaron | just a few questions now |
| 15:24.15 | TheRedBaron | first: is it true, you used to run a citrus grove in south florida? |
| 15:24.48 | orange | absolutely not. It was a lemon tree out on my driveway in north georgia |
| 15:24.59 | TheRedBaron | right |
| 15:25.15 | TheRedBaron | and can you explain to us who or what "Clementine" was? |
| 15:25.33 | orange | high school sweetheart |
| 15:25.51 | TheRedBaron | thank you very much... |
| 15:26.07 | orange | it was mere infatuation though |
| 15:26.25 | orange | my true love turned out to be peppermint |
| 15:26.42 | TheRedBaron | as rumors have it, you now run a highly successful pecan grove, marketing an austere strain of pecans called "600nm" |
| 15:26.50 | TheRedBaron | can you confirm this? |
| 15:27.29 | orange | there may be some truth to that, but it is, after all, highly confidential |
| 15:27.34 | orange | I won't confirm or deny any part of it |
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| 15:29.39 | TheRedBaron | Orange: just a few more questions |
| 15:31.41 | orange | TheRedBaron: stay connected, it helps |
| 15:31.48 | TheRedBaron | is it true, you have been plauged by a mysterious band of marauder's, attempting to thwart your horticulture business? |
| 15:34.01 | TheRedBaron | remember, any question that goes unasnwered will be left to our imagination. Letting it provide the answer |
| 15:34.13 | orange | well, we have had some unexplained happenings. We found a new strain of rare green-flesh citrus plants brutalized with dry ice and salt water. It was ugly. There was only one clue we found at the scene... |
| 15:34.50 | orange | it was a matchbox, old and worn, with a picture of a VW bug on it, and the smudged out word 'b**on' -- we're still trying to figure it all out |
| 15:34.57 | orange | we suspect a clan of well-placed spies |
| 15:36.19 | TheRedBaron | interesting |
| 15:36.28 | orange | oh |
| 15:36.57 | orange | and there was one incident where someone put the wrong fertilizer on some plants... we color-code the bags, you see. |
| 15:37.11 | orange | but I suspect it was just a Color Blind Guy that works for us |
| 15:37.19 | orange | and not a nefarious plot |
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| 15:39.37 | orange | TheRedBaron: some interviewer... you keep disappearing for minutes at a time |
| 15:39.51 | menotume | ~garc |
| 15:41.00 | TheRedBaron | orange: this is a low-budget film |
| 15:41.04 | TheRedBaron | err documentary |
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| 15:44.16 | TheRedBaron | orange that should conclude our interview at this time, we appreciate your cooperation |
| 15:44.24 | TheRedBaron | we will keep in touch :) |
| 15:44.42 | orange | that's what I'm afraid of |
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| 16:04.38 | kierra | satu |
| 16:04.56 | Saturos | kierra |
| 16:05.12 | Saturos | What's up? |
| 16:05.27 | kierra | just a hi |
| 16:05.40 | kierra | implied in saying your name :) |
| 16:06.05 | Saturos | Ah, I see. Hi! :) |
| 16:08.46 | Saturos | :) |
| 16:09.33 | kierra | close race |
| 16:09.39 | kierra | i wonder who will win |
| 16:09.49 | kierra | not i |
| 16:09.58 | orange | pfft, says the lady in first place :-) |
| 16:10.15 | Birdie | she is trying to show off..dont you see that:) |
| 16:10.35 | kierra | no, not me, sooner or later I will run out of luck |
| 16:10.47 | kierra | i think strayer or orange |
| 16:11.45 | kierra | birdie, you always believe the worse in me....that is distressing |
| 16:12.16 | Birdie | lol |
| 16:12.21 | Birdie | but listen to yourself! |
| 16:12.28 | Birdie | your leading and you say like "oh no i wont win":) |
| 16:12.39 | kierra | b/c i wont |
| 16:13.30 | kierra | i have been lucky so far |
| 16:13.30 | Birdie | you dont have only with luck everything correct till now:) |
| 16:13.30 | kierra | and the one i got right really, saturos gave everyone a point for being wrong |
| 16:13.30 | kierra | but we wont go there |
| 16:13.40 | Saturos | You'll get a present for that answer. :) |
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| 16:13.48 | Saturos | No matter which place you have in the end! |
| 16:13.54 | Saturos | CBG here? |
| 16:13.55 | kierra | but i want to win |
| 16:14.07 | Birdie | lol |
| 16:14.21 | Birdie | normally kids of 12 13 are discussing to win |
| 16:14.23 | Birdie | but this time......:) |
| 16:14.35 | kierra | rofl |
| 16:14.57 | kierra | 33) Birdie: she is trying to show off..dont you see that:) <---- i am not showing off |
| 16:16.17 | Birdie | :) |
| 16:16.43 | kierra | i dont like the pressure of being in first place |
| 16:17.03 | orange | that's true enough |
| 16:17.08 | orange | better to come from behind right at the end :-) |
| 16:17.16 | Birdie | hehe |
| 16:17.22 | orange | but, with a contest like this, you can't do that |
| 16:17.23 | Birdie | thats why you forgot to send an answer:) |
| 16:17.35 | orange | who me? No, I was just busy in real life that day. |
| 16:17.56 | orange | I knew I was missing it :-( |
| 16:18.11 | kierra | satu, I hope its not an 8x10 glossy with circles and squares and paragraphs in red ink on the back |
| 16:18.23 | orange | I'm 3 points down, and no matter how hard I try, if someone in front of me gets every answer right, I cannot win. |
| 16:18.31 | Birdie | is why i dont participate, i would miss to many answers cause of not being able to look at it that day |
| 16:18.49 | orange | so I have to hope for them to miss, in a nice way of course :-) |
| 16:19.19 | kierra | rofl |
| 16:19.30 | kierra | orange, sometimes you are an enigma |
| 16:20.15 | orange | ~dict enigma |
| 16:20.30 | kierra | gordian knot |
| 16:20.31 | orange | well, I want everyone to do well, but I still want to win :-) |
| 16:21.09 | ToughShooter | Enigma was a German encryption system, IIRC.. |
| 16:22.10 | kierra | orange, pm |
| 16:27.16 | Saturos | ToughShooter: Isn't there a film about that thingy? |
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| 16:28.46 | conanhome | Birdie: here am i |
| 16:28.56 | Birdie | change nicks:) |
| 16:28.59 | conanhome | Birdie: let's see what happen with next netsplit |
| 16:29.10 | Birdie | you can just change nick to? |
| 16:29.16 | testingconan | Birdie: yeah! |
| 16:29.20 | Birdie | see.. |
| 16:29.22 | testingconan | Birdie: it works. |
| 16:29.30 | Birdie | of course it does:) |
| 16:29.32 | testingconan | cool, gonna edit the autojoin for irssi |
| 16:29.33 | testingconan | :) |
| 16:29.37 | Birdie | :) |
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| 16:29.40 | ToughShooter | Saturos: yes, there is one |
| 16:29.43 | Birdie | i'm glad i could help you |
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| 16:45.26 | CBG | hmm, Saturos..? |
| 16:46.05 | CBG | oh, he left. anyone know what he wanted? |
| 16:46.06 | quantumdot | he is playing gu54 |
| 16:46.33 | CBG | ok, thnx |
| 16:52.22 | CBG | bah, hotmail sucks |
| 16:52.29 | CBG | Sat didnt get my answer again. |
| 16:52.35 | CBG | time to move to Hotmail... |
| 16:52.42 | CBG | s/hotmail/GMail |
| 16:57.26 | ToughShooter | eeek GMail is crap |
| 16:57.30 | quantumdot | lol |
| 16:57.56 | ToughShooter | I've set up a filter on all my accounts to instantly delete emails from and to gmail |
| 16:58.02 | quantumdot | that's because CBG is filtered out as spam :P |
| 16:59.44 | CBG | Hotmail SUCKS |
| 16:59.53 | CBG | GMail cannot be any worse |
| 16:59.57 | CBG | it's not possible |
| 17:00.15 | ToughShooter | Hotmail and Gmail is both crap |
| 17:00.37 | CBG | because they are free and webbased? |
| 17:00.41 | CBG | what do you use ToughShooter ? |
| 17:01.04 | ToughShooter | No, because Hotmail comes from MS and gmail because someone else reads your mails, too |
| 17:01.11 | CBG | heh |
| 17:02.17 | ToughShooter | get a real provider :p |
| 17:05.28 | CBG | I have an account at ntlworld, but don't like to use that for things other than family... |
| 17:05.40 | CBG | (ntl is my ISP) |
| 17:06.12 | quantumdot | cannot you open a second account cbg? |
| 17:06.20 | quantumdot | with your isp |
| 17:06.43 | quantumdot | ToughShooter: some1 else read your mail? |
| 17:06.48 | quantumdot | how is that? |
| 17:06.50 | Birdie | we can open 5 adresses i think with our provider |
| 17:07.30 | quantumdot | hey birdie, maybe we can match tonite on pillbox |
| 17:07.44 | CBG | quantumdot: we get 5 from them for the line, and they are all used up by my family |
| 17:07.45 | ToughShooter | quantumdot: google scans your emails |
| 17:07.58 | quantumdot | really ToughShooter? |
| 17:08.02 | quantumdot | never heard that |
| 17:08.05 | CBG | not a person |
| 17:08.06 | ToughShooter | yes |
| 17:08.22 | CBG | they are autmatically scanned by a computer to give you adverts relevant to your emails |
| 17:08.22 | Birdie | oh your in tbones:) |
| 17:08.29 | quantumdot | Birdie: :) |
| 17:08.59 | kierra-lunch | big brother is watching |
| 17:09.03 | CBG | heh |
| 17:09.09 | quantumdot | bzmom too |
| 17:09.15 | kierra-lunch | lol |
| 17:09.17 | kierra-lunch | yep\ |
| 17:09.30 | CBG | :D |
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| 17:09.41 | kierra-lunch | and she has eyes in the back of her head....ask trb |
| 17:09.50 | ToughShooter | They also use the data for fighting against what they call terror |
| 17:10.01 | CBG | and both sides, kierra-lunch ? |
| 17:10.32 | ToughShooter | If you want to visit their country they look into your emails to find out whether you like their government |
| 17:10.48 | CBG | ToughShooter: I don't think some pervert will scan through my emails to my girlfriend (if I had one)... |
| 17:10.51 | quantumdot | ToughShooter: sounds a bit silly any Terrorist wannabe will use gmail if unsecure |
| 17:11.08 | ToughShooter | quantumdot: That's the system |
| 17:11.32 | Mr_Molez | ToughShooter: and how does the government know who owns the account ? |
| 17:11.54 | ToughShooter | If you buy books that are ciritc to their government at amazon you will get in jail one day, and then you can flight back at your own expense |
| 17:12.18 | quantumdot | ToughShooter: that sounds even more silly |
| 17:12.31 | kierra-lunch | where are you from ts |
| 17:12.37 | quantumdot | has this happened? |
| 17:12.37 | CBG | ~dict paranoia |
| 17:12.39 | ToughShooter | quantumdot: It happened |
| 17:12.53 | CBG | ~dict 2 paranoia |
| 17:13.02 | CBG | ToughShooter: ^ |
| 17:13.06 | ToughShooter | nope, no paranoia |
| 17:13.12 | ToughShooter | Read news! |
| 17:13.28 | CBG | ok ToughShooter, do you use any free, webbased email? |
| 17:13.38 | ToughShooter | It sounds so unrealistic that I didn't believed in the first moment, either |
| 17:13.46 | kierra-lunch | that the government/authorities can monitor emails should be no surprise |
| 17:15.01 | quantumdot | kierra-lunch: ok, but they use it to set you in jail for buying amazon's books ... |
| 17:15.17 | ToughShooter | it depends on which books you buy ;) |
| 17:15.19 | quantumdot | if amazon (USA) sells it, must be ok to buy them right? |
| 17:15.38 | quantumdot | otherwise better to go to nazi times and burn them |
| 17:15.49 | quantumdot | for dangerous |
| 17:15.59 | CBG | ok ToughShooter, do you use any free, webbased email? |
| 17:16.21 | kierra-lunch | dont jump all over TS |
| 17:16.46 | kierra-lunch | just bec amazon sells it doesnt make it right |
| 17:16.53 | CBG | Maybe he can suggest a _good_ free email..! I need one! |
| 17:16.59 | ToughShooter | CBG: yes, I do though I don't use email for any data that would need security |
| 17:17.16 | kierra-lunch | but all that data is compiled and will point to a profile |
| 17:17.23 | CBG | ToughShooter: can you tell me which you use? |
| 17:18.30 | ToughShooter | I have several providers..for university I use macnews.de , for private ones web.de and for non-important things gmx.de |
| 17:18.45 | CBG | ahh, all german. :) |
| 17:19.02 | ToughShooter | Yes, I have to fear nothing from my own government |
| 17:19.20 | CBG | :) |
| 17:19.37 | [suave] | CBG: what about googlemail? |
| 17:19.58 | Birdie | gmail is good but i get a lot of spam |
| 17:20.09 | Birdie | and i hate that sending messages are limitted so much (10MB) |
| 17:20.28 | ToughShooter | If you use some other provider that doesn't come from your country it's maybe problematic ;) |
| 17:21.38 | CBG | [suave]: googlemail = GMail ... |
| 17:22.55 | quantumdot | Birdie: looks like a match at brad:5999 |
| 17:23.03 | quantumdot | i cant play :( |
| 17:23.28 | Birdie | i cant either, i am ddoing stuff:( |
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| 19:24.16 | orange | so, about that current task |
| 19:24.37 | orange | I think it might be spiralzone |
| 19:25.20 | kierra | nah |
| 19:25.27 | orange | no, really, I do |
| 19:25.30 | kierra | that was yesterdays |
| 19:26.00 | orange | well, of course it isn't today's! I can't talk about *that* |
| 19:26.07 | kierra | today is 'being left out in the cold |
| 19:26.09 | orange | I'm just pretending it's yesterday so we can discuss it :-) |
| 19:26.55 | kierra | yeah, meno is away |
| 19:27.03 | kierra | the cats can play |
| 19:29.06 | orange | meno isn't as away as you might think ;-) |
| 19:29.11 | Birdie | lol |
| 19:29.13 | Birdie | shhhh |
| 19:29.29 | orange | kierra: that was my first though about today, too :-) |
| 19:29.39 | kierra | out of sight, out of mind |
| 19:29.46 | kierra | my first thought, yes |
| 19:29.53 | kierra | but not my answer ;) |
| 19:32.14 | orange | then I thought he was "in the doghouse" |
| 19:32.20 | orange | which made me think of snoopy |
| 19:32.24 | orange | which led me to "the red baron" |
| 19:32.29 | orange | but that way lies madness |
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| 19:35.58 | kierra | i call that circular reasoning |
| 19:36.30 | menotume | WOMEN ! |
| 19:36.32 | orange | oranges are round |
| 19:36.44 | menotume | some oranges are square |
| 19:36.55 | orange | I'm a geek, but I'm not a square |
| 19:37.48 | kierra | MEN!!!! |
| 19:38.11 | kierra | he read my post and the only comment is my typo at the end spistle instead of epistle |
| 19:39.19 | menotume | kierra: It was the mostly beautifully written and accurate epistle I have ever seen |
| 19:40.43 | kierra | rofl orange |
| 19:41.07 | kierra | meno is trying to make up for it but sugar coating his opinion |
| 19:42.54 | kierra | i will get meno later |
| 19:43.03 | kierra | so its safe for now, orange |
| 19:43.17 | kierra | orange, pm |
| 19:43.40 | orange | whew |
| 19:43.42 | Birdie | you call that safe? you are pm"ing him! |
| 19:43.56 | orange | birdie is jealous again :-) |
| 19:44.04 | Birdie | lol |
| 19:44.10 | Birdie | of course ^^ |
| 19:46.37 | kierra | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.21 | menotume | can't win |
| 19:47.25 | menotume | i will say nothing |
| 19:48.12 | kierra | but i t sounds like overkill |
| 19:51.32 | menotume | Hmm, i didn't get points for this ... http://meno.zapto.org/hidden/day13.jpg |
| 19:51.34 | menotume | :( |
| 19:51.53 | menotume | zero points |
| 19:51.57 | kierra | aw |
| 19:52.05 | kierra | i am truly sorry |
| 19:52.34 | menotume | lol |
| 19:52.44 | orange | menotume: huh? |
| 19:52.45 | Birdie | poor meno |
| 19:52.49 | kierra | it was sincere |
| 19:52.57 | kierra | unlike yours |
| 19:53.01 | orange | it's also right |
| 19:53.12 | menotume | i think saturos messed up, it seems K is in the lead again |
| 19:53.18 | menotume | something is wrong :P |
| 19:53.27 | orange | menotume: must have been a mistake, I'd ask |
| 19:53.31 | Birdie | i think she gave him money |
| 19:54.13 | kierra | how did you get it wrong |
| 19:54.19 | kierra | that is right answer |
| 19:54.30 | menotume | dunno |
| 19:55.07 | kierra | well, if he gives you the points, maybe he'll give me my point for the windows one |
| 19:55.25 | kierra | afterall, i got it right |
| 19:58.02 | Birdie | kierra! |
| 19:58.10 | Birdie | how much times will you say that:) |
| 19:58.25 | orange | Birdie: I'd guess at least once more per day through the end of the contest |
| 19:58.31 | orange | then a few more unless she wins ;-) |
| 19:58.42 | kierra | you got that right |
| 19:58.44 | Birdie | i think i'll quit irc |
| 19:59.02 | kierra | trb is related to me, remember backstabbing |
| 19:59.11 | orange | how could we forget? |
| 19:59.21 | Birdie | poor trb |
| 19:59.39 | kierra | bbl |
| 19:59.54 | orange | poor trb! poor US! |
| 20:08.36 | menotume | brad2901 or Mr_Molez: those wavs are causing me lag issues :) |
| 20:08.41 | menotume | shutting down the server |
| 20:08.49 | brad2901 | nooo! |
| 20:09.03 | menotume | grab em and save em :) |
| 20:09.06 | menotume | okies |
| 20:19.59 | Mr_Molez | wavs ? |
| 20:21.18 | brad2901 | some stuff recorded on teamspeak |
| 20:21.45 | Mr_Molez | uhhh i aint been on a teamspeak server recently |
| 20:23.17 | Birdie | me neither |
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| 20:59.06 | menotume | IP showed as AOL user, which led me to bleive it was one of the 2 of you :) |
| 21:00.13 | Mr_Molez | pfft |
| 21:00.33 | Mr_Molez | you shouldn't presume you may offend people :) |
| 21:00.40 | Mr_Molez | btw wavs ? |
| 21:06.37 | brad2901 | .wav files |
| 21:07.19 | Mr_Molez | yeh but how can a wav cause lag ? |
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| 21:12.57 | menotume | cause the webserver he gets them from is my machine here |
| 21:13.06 | menotume | my upload BW isn't good |
| 21:13.27 | menotume | I went from 105ms to over 400ms :) |
| 21:13.34 | menotume | hehe |
| 21:13.42 | menotume | i can shut it off very easily :) |
| 21:14.01 | Mr_Molez | so if i set my server to constantly download the wav files, you will suffer huh ? |
| 21:14.04 | Mr_Molez | aww |
| 21:14.50 | Mr_Molez | menotume: btw that patch u made for names to not cover lagstats... ummm didn't exactly do what i expected |
| 21:17.29 | Mr_Molez | or something :| |
| 21:17.45 | kierra | orange ping |
| 21:17.59 | kierra | i think I'm goihng to send my answer in tonight |
| 21:23.52 | orange | kierra: good, lmk when you do :-) |
| 21:24.00 | orange | I'm out... cu all |
| 21:27.05 | kierra | i will, O |
| 21:31.21 | menotume | Mr_Molez: ? |
| 21:31.32 | menotume | is it broke ? |
| 21:31.42 | Mr_Molez | menotume: if a person has a long callsign. it still coveres lagstats |
| 21:31.50 | Mr_Molez | it wasnt the e-mail that was the problem :P |
| 21:32.00 | menotume | nahhhh |
| 21:32.02 | Mr_Molez | I have a huge radar so the chat window is small |
| 21:32.04 | menotume | nthat's on the server |
| 21:32.13 | menotume | the server formats the lagstats |
| 21:32.19 | menotume | so, need 2.0.6 server |
| 21:32.23 | Mr_Molez | uhhh |
| 21:32.45 | menotume | ya, it's silly really, adds to bandwidth |
| 21:32.56 | menotume | the server should just send a list of slotnums and lag |
| 21:33.03 | menotume | and the client should format it |
| 21:33.40 | Mr_Molez | omg ! the text is all aligned to the right :P |
| 21:33.44 | Mr_Molez | ok i was wrong its fine :P |
| 21:34.07 | menotume | :) |
| 21:34.17 | menotume | aligned to the right ? |
| 21:34.20 | menotume | uh oh |
| 21:34.37 | Mr_Molez | want a sexy pic ? |
| 21:34.43 | menotume | nahhh |
| 21:34.46 | Mr_Molez | oh bzflag text align i mean ;) |
| 21:34.46 | menotume | i'll check it :) |
| 21:34.49 | Mr_Molez | okies :P |
| 21:37.26 | Mr_Molez | it aint a problem |
| 21:37.53 | Mr_Molez | no need to fix anything :P |
| 21:38.01 | menotume | well, i didn't mean for that |
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| 21:38.09 | menotume | didn't want to change the alignment |
| 21:38.18 | Mr_Molez | it only does it for lagstats |
| 21:38.22 | menotume | ya |
| 21:38.25 | Mr_Molez | and it doesnt go over the screen or anything |
| 21:38.27 | Mr_Molez | so its ok :) |
| 21:38.39 | menotume | i needed %-24.24s instead of %24.24s :( |
| 21:38.58 | Mr_Molez | yeh, thats what i told you :P |
| 21:39.02 | menotume | hard to test, cuase i couldn't use any existing servers |
| 21:39.25 | menotume | well, why didn't I listen then ? |
| 21:39.31 | Mr_Molez | duno |
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| 22:51.54 | Birdie | meno: did you update the homepage from duc league? with placing all official servers? |
| 22:52.04 | menotume | ya |
| 22:52.12 | Birdie | you forgot catays |
| 22:52.16 | Birdie | :) |
| 22:52.22 | menotume | do peopl match there ? |
| 22:52.30 | Birdie | somethimes |
| 22:52.36 | menotume | i'll have to check it out |
| 22:52.40 | Birdie | well more before than thesedays |
| 22:52.46 | Birdie | same for zeeserver |
| 22:52.50 | Birdie | not as much anymore |
| 22:52.52 | menotume | i mean, can catay be trusted? :P |
| 22:52.58 | Birdie | hmm.. |
| 22:52.59 | menotume | no way on zee server |
| 22:53.05 | Birdie | on the other hand, can pimpi be trusted? bzg?:) |
| 22:53.08 | Birdie | why not? |
| 22:53.10 | menotume | anyone who offi matches there is crazy |
| 22:53.13 | menotume | laaaaaag |
| 22:53.19 | Birdie | oh |
| 22:53.23 | menotume | is fone for 5 mins, then it goes nuts |
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| 23:24.22 | CBG | menotume freeeeee tonight? |
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