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10:01.11LePoulpe303a suave voice ???? ty kierra !!!!
10:02.04kierra:) yw
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10:15.34[dmp]another day.. another product for google to spy on us :)
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10:16.29kierra? dmp?
10:17.13[dmp]http://calendar.google.com/
10:17.20[dmp]google scares me abit
10:20.40kierrawhy
10:21.31[dmp]they know my surfing habbits (google.com)  my email (gmail) my contacts (gmail + gtalk), which sites i run (adsense), how people uses my site (cant remember their stats programme), they just need to know my physical location (but then again, they are thinking about offering wireless connection).. in 2010 i'll bet i can track myself with google map's in real time :-)
10:21.39[dmp]why it suggest on how to live my life :)
10:22.22Birdiegoogle is one of the best things ever:)
10:22.24[dmp]and it can suggest, how to live my life :)
10:22.34Birdiewe dont have to search in books anymore, just type it in in google..
10:22.41kierratime to buy google stock/
10:22.43kierra?
10:22.44Birdie:)
10:23.25[dmp]i think they will lose their "do no evil" label soon, so im not sure its a good stock
10:24.02[dmp]i dont like they do have access to so much info, and they use it for whatever they like.
10:24.17[dmp]eg. adsense, they can shut your down without any reason
10:24.51[dmp]you have no rights, you cant learn why they do it because its "secrets of their business"
10:25.13Birdiethey have lots of power, the question is if they missbehave with it, or if they miss use it
10:25.25[dmp]they do
10:25.38[dmp]its a company wanting to earn money, not to watch over you interest
10:26.22[dmp]gmail 2gb malis .. you never need to delete a mail again.. they say.. well, thats unless google does it for you.. and again.. They cant tell you why, because its "secrets of their business"
10:27.54[dmp]and if you use adwords (the banners) they decide everything. You cant really do much about it, except pay whatever amount they figure out. not that i say they are cheating, but it would be nice to see their reasoning for they actions
10:28.28Birdieon the other hand, why do they do everything so sneaky and "behind closed doors"?
10:28.54[dmp]to protect their business
10:32.08[dmp]my point is.. everyone is sceptics over every action microsoft do. its popular to hate them in soem communities. But google is good. They do no evil, as they have written. And who would question google ? :)
10:32.24[dmp]sceptism is good, also for google :)
10:33.03Birdieevery one hates microsoft but every one also loves google:):
10:33.09Birdiewell there always exceptions but.;
10:33.25[dmp]microsoft do much good too
10:33.56Birdieon bzflag it seems to be a tradition to laugh with microsoft:)
10:34.03[dmp]they have a large research department that isnt required to research in areas for microsoft
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10:35.44[dmp]i dont like windows as such, but i have no problem with microsoft in general
10:36.58[dmp]well, thats just me :) and im a minority :)
10:39.30Birdiea small minority:(
10:41.15[dmp]well, its not that big a deal. Im limiting my use of google products
10:41.38[dmp]i like gmail very much, but prefer to live without it. I just need to find an email client that can deal with my mail
10:42.01Birdiedont you have a good one from your provider?
10:43.36[dmp]my client dosnt supply a client. They got guides on how to use mail with outlook, but im not into outlook :)
10:43.48[dmp]i got my own mail server, its the client that is bugging me
10:45.16[dmp]i got too much email for 30 years of email evolution to handle :)
10:47.01Birdie:)
10:49.13[dmp]thats another funny thing. Opensource is about choice. Thats why we dont like Micorsoft. But.. "Opensource" dont like that one uses MS by choice :-)
10:50.19[dmp]perhaps i should stop typing and start surfing. It seems that my google rebellion is not going to start here :)
10:51.10ToughShooterYeah, some things MS do is actually good like RTF
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10:57.58kierracheer up, dmp, you dont need to start a google rebellion, per se
10:58.14kierrajust get ppl thinking
10:58.27kierra]you have a point about google
11:15.35Birdiekierra: some barons at work outside trb?
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11:27.41kierrayes, rb2,bl
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13:17.17orange[dmp]: I only judge the two companies by their actions so far
13:17.28orangegoogle certainly has the potential weapons to do some great evil
13:17.54orangebut so far, other than giving in to some censorship demands, which some people really hate, they haven't done any evil that we've seen
13:18.18orangemicrosoft has a long history of doing bad things
13:18.27orangetheir strong-arm licensing tactics
13:18.36orangeembrace extend destroy of standards
13:19.14orangeand if you want to talk about companies poised to do evil to the open-source community, look at the patents microsoft is holding, just waiting for the right moment
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13:21.36TheRedBaronorange: harmless ping
13:21.48orangeTheRedBaron: unconcerned pong
13:21.59TheRedBaronyay
13:22.09TheRedBaronorange: we still have yet to play a match you citrus :)
13:22.19orangeyeah, you're right, hmmm
13:22.34TheRedBarontonight or tomorrow?
13:22.40TheRedBaroni'll bring the MD :)
13:23.00orangenights are best for me, but usually not until later
13:23.10TheRedBaronlater would be?
13:23.15orangeafter 11pm
13:23.18TheRedBaron9:30?
13:23.19TheRedBaronoh
13:23.26TheRedBaronwe'll go for friday then
13:23.36orangefriday is a possibility, yes
13:25.05TheRedBaronSounds Ideal
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15:40.40orangeTheRedBaron: menotume picking on you again?
15:40.56TheRedBaronyes....
15:41.02TheRedBaronI didn't do anything to him
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15:41.15orangehe's a meanie
15:41.24TheRedBaronI could understand perhaps admirarch picking on me... but he's to austere and diginified to stoop that low
15:42.50TheRedBaronorange: how's the restaurant business going? :)
15:43.23orangeyou know what's funny?  I don't even have any rights on the ducati league site :-)
15:43.35TheRedBaronsure...
15:43.40TheRedBaronundercover orange
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15:44.30menotumeorange: no right on duc league ?
15:44.38TheRedBaronorange; you're also supposed to be away, but you're watching! always watching!
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15:44.54menotumeuh ohs
15:44.55TheRedBaronmenotume DON"T DO IT!
15:45.10TheRedBaron~restrain menotume
15:45.17orangemenotume: do I?
15:45.28orangeI didn't know, if I do.
15:45.36TheRedBaronmenotume: think rationally,  breathe deep, calm thoughts
15:46.16bz_BLwhere's the fire escape?
15:46.20menotumei don't know, do you ?
15:46.40menotumeahh, nope
15:46.43menotumegood :P
15:47.20TheRedBaronwise menotume
15:54.30orangepoor ducati league site is so slow
15:54.43orangethe machine, I mean
15:56.46menotumeyes
15:56.56menotumecompare it to guleague
15:57.21CBGlist server is slow too
15:57.35CBGeveryone should donate to to the project so they can fix it. ;)
15:57.57menotumeok, you first CBG :)
15:59.23CBGI donated $20 about a week ago.
15:59.27CBGand $5 a few months ago.
15:59.32menotumecool
15:59.35CBGYour turn menotume :)
15:59.48menotumei've donated a couple times, but not since i started 'devving'
15:59.57menotume$50 once
16:00.02CBGtut tut :P
16:00.06CBGooh, nice.
16:00.22CBGthat $20 was 20% of my income.
16:00.32menotume:)
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16:49.42Mr_Molezdamnit i missed it
16:54.47orangeoverslept?
16:56.41Mr_Moleznah had to go out
16:57.30Mr_Molezall that hard work getting people to tell me the answers for nothing :P
16:57.39Mr_Molezahh well already got myself a sexy mouse mat :P
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17:15.58kierraorange!!!
17:16.14kierra#17
17:20.19orangeyes, an easy one finally
17:20.36orangelunchtime
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21:26.06Chestalhi there. Any pillbox team available?
21:29.52TheRedBaronChestal: let me see
21:30.01CBG~pbm1
21:30.13TheRedBaroncbg beat me to it
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21:49.58menotumeyes !
21:50.07CBGno !
21:50.08menotumewe are avilable !
21:50.50CBGspeak for yourself, menotume :P
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22:36.57CBGMr_Molez: ping
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22:41.27CBG~literal pbm1
22:41.28jbot"pbm1" is "<reply> see bzfquery  silvercat.tybox.net:5157"
22:41.33CBG~literal pbm2
22:41.34jbot"pbm2" is "<reply> see bzfquery silvercat.bzflag.bz:1115"
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