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| 00:17.34 | ulic | how does one force svn code to get zipped in an alpha/beta/released zip? I've looked but don't see anything that says. |
| 00:18.43 | ulic | is that part of the edit repository and you make seperate repositories for each? |
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| 00:21.17 | Dashkal | ulic: under "Manage Repository" make sure "Package Type" is set appropriately |
| 00:23.00 | ulic | well it defaults to alpha, beta, release. I guess I don't get how I make a specific changeset to be one type or another. |
| 00:23.41 | Dashkal | alpha is a generic commit |
| 00:24.06 | Dashkal | beta and release are tags. a tag of the type "v1.0" is a relase, any tag that doesn't look like a relase is beta. ckk could tell you the actual pattern |
| 00:24.39 | ulic | ok, I figured it had something to do with tags. |
| 00:24.58 | ckknight_ | ([vV]?[\d\.\-_]+)|(\-release$) |
| 00:26.34 | Dashkal | ckknight_: What is the packager going to do in the case of commits to branches? Will it just repackage trunk with the current rev? |
| 00:26.46 | ulic | so that makes it release, any other tag is a beta, and regular commit is alpha then? |
| 00:27.30 | Dashkal | yes |
| 00:29.04 | ckknight_ | Dashkal: branches aren't looked at |
| 00:29.31 | Dashkal | so even under svn it'll blithely ignore commits? sweet |
| 00:29.38 | ulic | so branchs can be true development branches then. |
| 00:31.21 | Dashkal | There's a strategy I've seen for branches that I'm considering adopting. |
| 00:31.46 | Dashkal | New features are _always_ done in branches. The only commits to trunk are merges and fixes for bad merges |
| 00:42.12 | ckknight_ | see, I do that, only with git |
| 00:42.29 | ckknight | which works for me quite nicely |
| 00:43.19 | Dashkal | Couple edge cases to deal with |
| 00:43.38 | Dashkal | If I later fix a bug in a given feature, do I do it in that feature's branch and cherry-pick it over? |
| 00:43.46 | Dashkal | Or do I just fix it in trunk and consider the incubation branch dead? |
| 00:44.27 | ulic | how do you handle addons that have modules, like PitBull & LittleWigs, so that they package modulized. So is that not really available yet? I know ckk was talking about it in wowace the other day. |
| 00:45.08 | ulic | I assume you can't include .bat or .sh files. |
| 00:45.23 | ulic | which isn't really a good option anyways. |
| 00:46.46 | Dashkal | I plan to give them a good headache when I write my ill external tool to generate RSA keys :p |
| 00:47.46 | ckknight | ulic: we're working on it, basically |
| 00:48.07 | ckknight | but first I need to do data migration |
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| 00:48.14 | ckknight | after that, I might be reassigned to curseforge stuff |
| 00:48.15 | ulic | that's what I figured. If you get something going and want a tester, I'd be happy to dork around with LittleWigs using it. |
| 00:48.20 | ckknight | at which point that will be a priority for me |
| 00:48.23 | ckknight | since I want it for Cart3 |
| 00:48.53 | ulic | for now I guess I'll just upload zips periodically like I have been. |
| 00:49.03 | ckknight | Dashkal: well, with git, once you merge a branch, the branch dies (since it merged in) |
| 00:49.04 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 00:49.18 | Dashkal | hmm, guess that answers that |
| 00:49.40 | Dashkal | ok, that works then |
| 00:49.47 | Dashkal | trunk will be merges and bugfixes. |
| 00:51.45 | Dashkal | If I do that I could also easily do "release lines". Branches that never merge back that correspond to release versions (1.0.x rather than specific releases which would be tags). Such lines could just cherry-pick in fixes from trunk as long as they're maintained |
| 00:52.25 | Dashkal | Dunno if I care to be so verbose, but cool that the possibility exists |
| 01:00.48 | Dashkal | I am so going to hell for that |
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| 01:01.16 | Dashkal | I have two _nested_ new statements in that single logical line of java code |
| 01:01.26 | Dashkal | one of which for an interface that I implement on the spot |
| 01:02.31 | Dashkal | even better is it _should_ crash since I'm fucking with swing directly from a worker thread |
| 01:04.03 | Dashkal | does the obvious thing and nests a new Runnable() {} in there |
| 01:04.43 | Dashkal | oh yeah, so going to hell for that |
| 01:04.55 | Dashkal | I think I'll hold off on committing until I have a chance to clean that up tomorrow morning |
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| 06:33.32 | cncfanatics | g'morning ppl |
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| 06:38.03 | charon | morning |
| 06:38.32 | cncfanatics | charon: ur box still up on port 443 ? :) |
| 06:38.57 | charon | should be |
| 06:39.08 | charon | i've decided to leave it that way until an actual SVN user complains |
| 06:39.45 | cncfanatics | <3 |
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| 06:39.54 | cncfanatics | I love you |
| 06:40.49 | charon | heh :) |
| 06:40.55 | charon | i can never resist breaking "security" |
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| 06:41.08 | charon | "oh hi... we won't route your packets! except if they're clearly marked as 'gift'" |
| 06:42.09 | cncfanatics | it's anoying |
| 06:42.18 | cncfanatics | the most anoying thing is I'm on a windows comp though |
| 06:42.22 | cncfanatics | I wouldn't mind if it was a linux |
| 06:42.36 | cncfanatics | I'd get a copy of git, compile it and put it on an usb stick and work there |
| 06:42.36 | Elkano | breaking security is fun ^^ I finaly found the only port that is open on our university firewall ^^ |
| 06:42.57 | sylvanaar | OMG - the curseforge web guy needs to stop testing only on Firefox |
| 06:43.34 | Elkano | did he break things on ie crap or on opera/safari/konqueror? |
| 06:43.45 | cncfanatics | on ie |
| 06:43.48 | sylvanaar | IE |
| 06:43.49 | cncfanatics | I already told them |
| 06:43.53 | cncfanatics | they didn't even fix it yet ? |
| 06:43.58 | sylvanaar | which thing? |
| 06:44.00 | charon | on konqy, the "invalid session" bug has come back after the recent maintenance |
| 06:44.01 | sylvanaar | there are a few |
| 06:44.02 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar: the menus |
| 06:44.09 | sylvanaar | oh, i made a ticket |
| 06:44.21 | sylvanaar | there must be more than one ticket then |
| 06:44.21 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar: do the menus bug out and go behind other stuff on IE still ? |
| 06:44.26 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 06:44.49 | charon | i guess the IE folks need to stop testing only on half broken internal CSS test cases? ;) |
| 06:44.50 | sylvanaar | and you cant click the "configure repository" choice on your profile page |
| 06:45.03 | sylvanaar | yawn, they are working on IE8 |
| 06:45.07 | charon | cncfanatics: updating persephone to git 1.5.6 btw |
| 06:45.39 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar: you can, use tab |
| 06:45.46 | cncfanatics | tab to the link while they fix it, so ur not stuck |
| 06:45.49 | sylvanaar | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/327-project-options-menu-drops-down-under-the-email-subcriptions/ |
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| 06:46.32 | sylvanaar | i didnt really need to access it, i was just mentioning it |
| 06:46.33 | cncfanatics | charon: ur box kills idle clients DAMN fast |
| 06:46.49 | charon | uhm |
| 06:46.53 | charon | for what values of damn? |
| 06:47.02 | cncfanatics | I'd say 3-4 minutes |
| 06:47.05 | charon | i've never noticed an idle kill, only tcp disconnects |
| 06:47.23 | cncfanatics | I think I have tcp keepalive on |
| 06:47.25 | cncfanatics | let me check |
| 06:47.27 | charon | it's behind a netgear nat router that is not beyond doubt in too many ways |
| 06:47.47 | charon | i haven't changed the ssh configuration apart from the port |
| 06:47.55 | cncfanatics | tcp keepalives are on yea |
| 06:48.29 | sylvanaar | i love this new router i got, it had all the QoS stuff set up out of the box |
| 06:49.46 | cncfanatics | QoS ? |
| 06:49.56 | sylvanaar | i can fire up Usenet Explorer, and max out my connection, and still notice no delays if i browse the web, send email, etc |
| 06:50.00 | sylvanaar | Quality of Service |
| 06:50.55 | sylvanaar | Usenet explorer can bring your LAN to its knees, it will use every last bit of bandwidth you have |
| 06:51.09 | cncfanatics | thats a good thing (tm) |
| 06:51.10 | sylvanaar | your internet connection rather |
| 06:51.12 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 06:51.15 | sylvanaar | i agree |
| 06:51.22 | cncfanatics | I don't even kow what usenet is :p my ISP doesn't provide it |
| 06:51.33 | sylvanaar | get it somewhere else |
| 06:51.42 | cncfanatics | what is it for ? |
| 06:51.52 | sylvanaar | um, you are young arent you |
| 06:52.18 | charon | cncfanatics: it's for pushing bits uphill in the snowstorm both ways |
| 06:52.57 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar: I'm 18 yes |
| 06:53.00 | sylvanaar | back in the old days, people used usenet as a giant forum to talk about stuff |
| 06:53.07 | cncfanatics | and in the new days ? |
| 06:53.21 | sylvanaar | there were also sections of it where they attached binary files |
| 06:54.09 | charon | of course _nobody_ would ever do that nowadays, or would they. |
| 06:54.19 | sylvanaar | i dont like p2p |
| 06:54.30 | sylvanaar | no thx |
| 06:54.43 | cncfanatics | so, usenet is basicly a big filesharing forum ? :p |
| 06:54.47 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 06:54.57 | cncfanatics | and why can't it be accessed by normal means ? |
| 06:54.57 | sylvanaar | its still used as a forum also |
| 06:54.59 | charon | some "talking" newsgroups are very much alive |
| 06:55.00 | sylvanaar | b |
| 06:55.05 | charon | it has its own protocol |
| 06:55.08 | sylvanaar | NNTP |
| 06:55.26 | charon | very much like mail, servers push and fetch netnews between each other |
| 06:55.46 | charon | so you need a nearby nntp server to get news from |
| 06:56.24 | sylvanaar | which brings me back to QoS, and how it allows me to use 10mbits for NNTP, and still do other things without noticing any slowdown |
| 06:56.51 | sylvanaar | i use ngroups.net atm |
| 06:56.52 | charon | luckily you don't need 10mbit to slow down a netgear router |
| 06:57.00 | sylvanaar | yeah, i know |
| 06:57.04 | charon | the other day my sister had a virus that ARP scanned 192.168.*.* |
| 06:57.14 | charon | ping RTTs went up to 10-30s |
| 06:57.22 | charon | ping to "just outside" that router. |
| 06:57.39 | charon | anyway, have to run. happy hacking |
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| 08:37.18 | cnc|work | grrr, I'm hating this shit firewall more & more |
| 08:37.24 | cnc|work | it kills off idle connection after a few minutes |
| 08:37.32 | cnc|work | which makes me having to restart my putty all the time :( |
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| 10:46.10 | cnc|work | wow |
| 10:46.15 | cnc|work | I fucked up hard in this code |
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| 11:32.13 | cnc|work | arg |
| 11:32.22 | cnc|work | the fucker sysadmin at work blocked webmessenger |
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| 13:57.51 | Kaelten | cnc|work: hehe |
| 13:57.59 | cnc|work | :'( |
| 13:58.16 | Kaelten | gtalk has a http based client for there messages |
| 13:58.29 | cnc|work | webmessenger also does |
| 13:58.34 | cnc|work | their damn proxy blocks the website |
| 13:58.43 | cnc|work | glad they don't block mibbit |
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| 15:27.42 | ZealotOnAStick | He spilled beer on the server rack. |
| 15:27.59 | ZealotOnAStick | We're bringing in a frat boy to clean it up, should take a few minutes. |
| 15:28.23 | AckisWork | heh |
| 15:29.57 | AckisWork | what kind of beer? |
| 15:32.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Smithwicks. A true crime, to waste that. |
| 15:33.49 | AckisWork | heh |
| 15:34.06 | AckisWork | well, on the bright side curse.com is responding faster than usual |
| 15:36.13 | Funkeh` | ckknight, ping |
| 15:36.46 | ckknight | pong, Funkeh` |
| 15:37.06 | Funkeh` | ckknight, could you mark the r78093 as the default file? http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/3299/download/54748/ for some reason it didn't do it automatically |
| 15:37.43 | AckisWork | I noticed that with an upload of ARL last night actually |
| 15:38.15 | AckisWork | I updated 3 days ago, and as of yesterday it hadn't displayed that it was updated on curse |
| 15:38.30 | ckknight | k |
| 15:38.50 | AckisWork | but it looks like it was updated today... so might just be some lag time in the syncing? |
| 15:39.32 | ckknight | k, should update within 5 minutes, Funkeh` |
| 15:39.36 | ckknight | well, 5-10 |
| 15:39.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah, I noticed that, not sure why it wasn't showing up as primary. |
| 15:45.20 | AckisWork | zyuu, how's the cat? |
| 15:54.30 | Zyuu | Returned. :P |
| 15:54.37 | Zyuu | Dont have enough time for her :( |
| 15:54.41 | Zyuu | so I felt bad about it. |
| 15:54.42 | AckisWork | :( |
| 15:54.58 | Zyuu | she was cool though :) |
| 15:55.24 | AckisWork | gave her away or sold her? |
| 15:57.55 | Zyuu | back to the breeder :) |
| 15:59.04 | AckisWork | ahh... she was adorable |
| 15:59.07 | AckisWork | I miss her:P |
| 16:00.04 | ZealotOnAStick | She was gorgeous. |
| 16:00.21 | ZealotOnAStick | What about all the kitty stuff you bought? |
| 16:01.08 | Zyuu | gave it to him for free ;/ |
| 16:01.20 | Zyuu | Well I decided I just wouldnt have time for her is all |
| 16:01.30 | Zyuu | so it was stupid of me to think I would |
| 16:01.45 | AckisWork | I had maids over this week to clean the house... my cat's stash of toys doubled with all the shit they found |
| 16:02.18 | ZealotOnAStick | Cats are fairly independent critters . . . |
| 16:03.07 | Zyuu | not kittens :p |
| 16:03.11 | AckisWork | my cat requires me to feed it... he likes to say hi to me twice a day too |
| 16:03.20 | Zyuu | she wanted to play with me a lot |
| 16:03.23 | AckisWork | once when I wake up, once when I get home from work |
| 16:03.29 | Zyuu | its a bit lonely without her though |
| 16:03.59 | AckisWork | just go to the animal shelter and get one that's a bit older? |
| 16:04.23 | Zyuu | anyone know if the new iphone 3g is smaller then the first generation? |
| 16:04.32 | Zyuu | Ackis- I want a bengal cat. |
| 16:04.36 | Zyuu | they're awesome |
| 16:04.43 | Zyuu | she also kinda ruined my floor lol |
| 16:04.53 | Zyuu | well "awesome" (as awesome a cat can be) |
| 16:05.00 | AckisWork | if you're lonely w/o one, just get any cat... they're all lovable :P |
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| 16:10.44 | Zyuu | they just launched the new iphone in Sweden |
| 16:10.48 | Zyuu | sold out after 12 hours |
| 16:10.50 | Zyuu | crazy |
| 16:11.04 | AckisWork | hehe |
| 16:11.09 | ZealotOnAStick | Cats do need some interaction, but there's a lot of good toys that can provide them with some good independent play. |
| 16:11.17 | Zyuu | bengal cats are known to do more |
| 16:11.22 | Zyuu | and she was a bit.. how do you say it |
| 16:11.24 | ZealotOnAStick | I think the 3g is very slightly wider than the 1st gen, otherwise they're about the same size. |
| 16:11.27 | Zyuu | a brat |
| 16:12.00 | Zyuu | well |
| 16:12.05 | Zyuu | there's 100% white |
| 16:12.09 | Zyuu | or 100% black version |
| 16:12.10 | Zyuu | hmm |
| 16:12.45 | AckisWork | go to animal shelter, get kitty, profit |
| 16:16.32 | Zyuu | hehe |
| 16:17.20 | Zyuu | my iphone is fucked up today |
| 16:17.24 | Zyuu | why is it acting up |
| 16:18.11 | Zyuu | just read on msn why |
| 16:26.58 | ZealotOnAStick | new CurseForge poll up. |
| 16:30.48 | sylvanaar | i want the iphone 3g, im afraid to go and get stuck in a line though |
| 16:31.28 | sylvanaar | it launched in the US today as well |
| 16:31.35 | ZealotOnAStick | yes, hence the poll. |
| 16:31.52 | ZealotOnAStick | we have a few employees with temporary iBricks right now. |
| 16:31.56 | ZealotOnAStick | oh, btw, sylvanaar . . . |
| 16:32.01 | sylvanaar | yes? |
| 16:32.02 | ZealotOnAStick | I tried out Chatter. |
| 16:32.04 | ZealotOnAStick | Briefly. |
| 16:32.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Frigging thing doesn't have tab completion. |
| 16:32.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Prat spoiled me on that. |
| 16:32.56 | sylvanaar | it doesnt? |
| 16:35.23 | sylvanaar | i havent actually used chatter |
| 16:35.33 | AckisWork | http://ace.pastey.net/91155 would that could give me accurate results on which is faster? |
| 16:36.26 | sylvanaar | have you generated a listing? |
| 16:36.52 | AckisWork | uhh no? |
| 16:38.47 | sylvanaar | http://ace.pastey.net/91157 |
| 16:39.03 | nevcairiel | lua> local var; local a,b,c,d = "a", {"b"}, 3, function() end; start = os.clock() for i=1,1e7 do if a then if b then if c then if d then var = i end end end end end print(os.clock() - start) |
| 16:39.04 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 1.5 |
| 16:39.16 | sylvanaar | i think both ways generate the same code |
| 16:39.29 | nevcairiel | lua> local var; local a,b,c,d = "a", {"b"}, 3, function() end; start = os.clock() for i=1,1e7 do if a and b and c and d then var = i end end print(os.clock() - start) |
| 16:39.30 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 0.94 |
| 16:39.43 | AckisWork | that's what was said in a diff channel, just wanted to confirm it/test it out |
| 16:41.01 | nevcairiel | yeah lua seems to be smart enough to do it right |
| 16:41.34 | AckisWork | ok, so the answer holds that whatever is more readable is the way to do it |
| 16:41.46 | nevcairiel | thats generally the answer anyway |
| 16:41.51 | nevcairiel | screw micro optimizations |
| 16:42.34 | AckisWork | I did a few micro optimizations and noticed a huge increase in performance w/ ARL before... might as well do it right :) |
| 16:42.51 | AckisWork | well, if you consider passing tables -> not passing tables a micro optimization hehe |
| 16:43.11 | nevcairiel | probably not :P |
| 16:43.24 | AckisWork | heh |
| 16:44.04 | AckisWork | but after that "issue" I've always been looking at how I do things to make them a bit better... ARL isn't a mission critical mod by any means, but lessons learnt while working on it will pass to other mods |
| 16:45.33 | ZealotOnAStick | btw, AltTabber seems to not do jack all for me. |
| 16:46.08 | AckisWork | really? |
| 16:46.23 | AckisWork | it could be that the method to enable sound in background is fucking up |
| 16:46.44 | ZealotOnAStick | is that what it does, toggles enable sound in background on and off? |
| 16:46.56 | AckisWork | no |
| 16:47.08 | AckisWork | it toggles it on, if it's off, and then abuses an in-game bug with PlaySoundFile |
| 16:47.20 | AckisWork | technically I guess it's an exploit? |
| 16:47.32 | AckisWork | but PlaySoundFile will play the sound regardless of sound settings |
| 16:48.02 | ZealotOnAStick | ahh. Well, it's not enabling my disabled play sound in background. |
| 16:48.18 | AckisWork | hmm ok, I'll dick around with that sometime |
| 16:48.32 | AckisWork | GF is staying w/ me for 3 weeks starting sunday so I need to clean the house up |
| 16:48.32 | ZealotOnAStick | Direct from my friend who works for AT&T: "iPhone stuff is fubar" |
| 16:48.49 | ckknight | ~fubar |
| 16:48.49 | purl | fubar is f*cked up beyond any recognition, e.g. "This whole operation is fubar, soldier" (gay lisp included), or a Bar addon like Titan Panel and Telo's Infobar. |
| 16:48.51 | ZealotOnAStick | well, it's not exactly (to me) a high priority thing. |
| 16:49.01 | ckknight | hehe, gay lisp |
| 16:49.23 | ZealotOnAStick | I thought it would be a neat thing to have for those few occasions when I'm tabbed out entering dkp waiting on the rest of the raid. |
| 16:49.34 | AckisWork | ZealotOnAStick: just enable background sound and it should work |
| 16:49.35 | ZealotOnAStick | or tabbed out looking for obscure tv show sound files waiting on the rest of the raid. |
| 16:49.42 | AckisWork | yah it's a godsend for our raids for those reasons |
| 16:49.47 | ZealotOnAStick | yeah, but, see, I have background sound disabled for a reason. |
| 16:51.11 | AckisWork | i originally wanted it to toggle on/off but that didn't work and I'm lazy |
| 16:52.46 | AckisWork | ie return to original setting |
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| 16:56.03 | AckisWork | sylvanaar, nevcairiel: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ackis/LUACode |
| 16:57.10 | sylvanaar | cool |
| 16:58.32 | AckisWork | might as well document it since someone else is bound to ask one day? |
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| 17:01.13 | nevcairiel | I would've just assumed that its compiled into the same code anyway |
| 17:01.26 | nevcairiel | i doubt i'll be looking for proof on that question ever :P |
| 17:02.40 | AckisWork | meh it made me feel more important to add another wiki page :P |
| 17:38.21 | AckisWork | Hmm, for x-feedback, should I link curse, CF, or wowace forum? heh |
| 17:39.29 | ZealotOnAStick | Yes. |
| 17:39.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Pick where you'd prefer to get it. |
| 17:39.47 | ZealotOnAStick | as if it actually matters much and anyone actually uses that. |
| 17:40.55 | AckisWork | I have a new about panel which I stole from tek which should increase that usage |
| 17:41.59 | AckisWork | is there an X-Curse, etc field as well? |
| 17:42.22 | nevcairiel | those fields are generally not parsed anyway |
| 17:42.22 | ckknight | for toc files? |
| 17:42.28 | AckisWork | aye |
| 17:42.34 | nevcairiel | WoWAce Wiki parses them for the auto-generated .toc box |
| 17:42.52 | ckknight | hrm, if you're gonna put something in, I'd say put in the slug or something |
| 17:42.53 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 17:42.54 | nevcairiel | but thats about the only place i know |
| 17:43.00 | AckisWork | slug? |
| 17:43.06 | nevcairiel | ## X-RelSite-Curse: 5653 |
| 17:43.09 | ckknight | AckisWork: the url segment |
| 17:43.10 | nevcairiel | not sure if it still works |
| 17:43.17 | ckknight | well, for curseforge |
| 17:43.25 | ckknight | curse's ids are gonna go away, I believe |
| 17:43.34 | ckknight | they'll be the same as curseforge's slugs |
| 17:43.50 | AckisWork | ahh ok |
| 17:44.43 | AckisWork | my ToC has a shitload of fields |
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| 17:47.20 | AckisWork | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.toc 33 ToC fields =/ |
| 17:58.46 | ZealotOnAStick | I have, in all seriousness, seen entire addons smaller than your .toc alone. |
| 17:59.23 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:59.44 | nevcairiel | is X-Author-Server even read ? o.O |
| 17:59.57 | nevcairiel | all those X- fields are fun and all |
| 18:00.04 | nevcairiel | but somethign has to support it to be useful |
| 18:00.50 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: I added support in my AboutPanel library |
| 18:01.19 | Dashkal | Should use RDFa in your toc tags imo |
| 18:01.26 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 18:01.33 | AckisWork | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AckisRecipeList/AboutPanel.lua |
| 18:01.38 | AckisWork | ~dict RDF |
| 18:01.46 | AckisWork | ~RDF |
| 18:01.46 | purl | methinks rdf is Reality Distortion Field, the device Steve Jobs uses to make apple products look more shiny than they really are |
| 18:01.57 | Dashkal | resource description is the right one |
| 18:02.08 | Dashkal | Its a way to tag documents to make them easier to parse by computers |
| 18:02.13 | AckisWork | ahh |
| 18:02.14 | Dashkal | without messing with your web layout |
| 18:02.20 | nevcairiel | ~wiki Resource Description Framework |
| 18:02.57 | Dashkal | Happened on an article in one of my linux mags (Linux Journal I think) |
| 18:03.09 | Dashkal | nifty, but I don't actually do any web stuff so of limited use to me :p |
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| 19:47.36 | ckknight | anyone have any thoughts on http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/363-show-number-of-comments-on-ticket-listing/ ? |
| 19:49.23 | Dashkal | Not a big deal to me, but it does look like useful information |
| 19:50.59 | ckknight | only bad thing about it is that it's adding more data to an already crowded view |
| 19:52.18 | Dashkal | (not kidding) drop description |
| 19:52.20 | charon | hmm, maybe some brainstorming on the layout would be appropriate? |
| 19:52.34 | charon | i was thinking the same, but how about instead making the description full width gray underneath the usual row? |
| 19:52.46 | Dashkal | that could work too |
| 19:52.47 | ckknight | imo, description should minimally be a lot smaller |
| 19:52.56 | ckknight | hrm |
| 19:52.58 | ckknight | that would work |
| 19:53.05 | ckknight | charon: would you please make a ticket? |
| 19:53.09 | ckknight | I'll vote it +3 |
| 19:53.15 | charon | heh |
| 19:53.16 | Dashkal | link it, so will I |
| 19:53.20 | Dashkal | I hate the blobs on the right of the view |
| 19:53.32 | ckknight | I agree |
| 19:54.04 | charon | there's also an age old ticket by myself about marking up the description templates so the usual questions could be colored differently |
| 19:54.16 | charon | perhaps that idea could be extended to actually hide the template in the overview? |
| 19:54.34 | ckknight | charon: issue with that is that it becomes either too rigid, too ugly when viewing, or too ugly when creating |
| 19:54.54 | charon | true |
| 19:54.58 | charon | i always delete them anyway |
| 19:55.03 | charon | (sue me) |
| 19:55.26 | ckknight | it's mostly for stupid users |
| 19:55.33 | ckknight | as long as you can describe what you're talking about sanely, it's fine |
| 19:55.35 | ckknight | most people can't |
| 19:55.42 | ckknight | it's just like "it dun wurk" |
| 19:55.45 | Dashkal | I love them: I'm lazy |
| 19:55.56 | ckknight | I like em too, lets me not think |
| 19:55.58 | charon | i prefer to think of them as a checklist rather than a form |
| 20:00.48 | charon | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/364-move-description-in-overview/ |
| 20:01.07 | charon | i suck at wording enhancement requests though |
| 20:01.54 | ckknight | that seems alright |
| 20:02.13 | charon | you can't really say "do X" or "please do X", so it's always "let's be preposterous for a second here and suppose you actually _did_ find to read this ticket, then _wouldn't_ it be much better if..." |
| 20:02.29 | charon | (bug reports OTOH are just "X is broken, here's why") |
| 20:02.52 | charon | s/find/find time/ |
| 20:02.55 | charon | *sigh* |
| 20:03.48 | ckknight | hehe |
| 20:04.00 | ckknight | charon: it'd take me about 10 minutes to do |
| 20:04.19 | ckknight | maybe I can check into it once I'm done for the day |
| 20:06.36 | charon | hmm, it wasn't really the idea that you'd do this in your free time :) |
| 20:07.59 | ckknight | I can't work on curseforge while I'm at work |
| 20:08.02 | ckknight | so what else? |
| 20:08.04 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:08.59 | charon | but you still work at curse? |
| 20:09.21 | charon | just brought his laptop to 15.1W power consumption... yay |
| 20:10.07 | charon | i mean it's pretty ironic isn't it? you're one of the bright guys behind CF and have more good ideas for it, but aren't allowed to implement them? |
| 20:10.11 | Kody- | he's working on top secret super cool stuff |
| 20:13.06 | charon | damn, you got me curious. |
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| 20:35.55 | ckknight | I'm not doing top secret stuff |
| 20:36.03 | ckknight | I'm doing data migration from the current curse to the new curse |
| 20:36.27 | ckknight | which is neat in its own right |
| 20:36.45 | ckknight | but meh |
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| 21:48.58 | cncfanatics | hmmm, anyone got an idea for me ? |
| 21:49.12 | cncfanatics | I need a box I can connect on with ssh on port 443 |
| 21:49.31 | cncfanatics | can't use my own box as it's at my sister's, she doesn't want me to keep it powered on and her router is passworded by her ISP |
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| 22:55.29 | ckknight | Dashkal: ping |
| 22:55.43 | Dashkal | ckknight: pong |
| 23:12.43 | Zyuu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bh1kD66Oo8 |
| 23:15.32 | Dashkal | My eyes! (accidently read a comment) |
| 23:47.51 | Zyuu | If I'm ever posting a YouTube video |
| 23:47.55 | Zyuu | I will disable comments |
| 23:49.29 | Dashkal | Good plan |
| 23:50.59 | Kody- | :) |