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00:10.07Pneumatusshrugs
00:15.29starlonwell maybe not wrong, but I meant it for #wowace :)
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04:01.20Kaeltenwow, I just discovered my 4 year old knows how to work my AC
04:01.22Kaelten:s
04:01.59ckknightkids are smarter than you take em for
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04:55.59p3limany curseforge admins here?
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04:58.54p3limor does anyone know how i delete my own addons at curseforge?
04:59.11p3limi have some stupid addon i made ages ago there, i want it gone :p
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06:35.11netcursehey ackis
06:35.25netcursejust saw your message on curseforge about download counts across all sites
06:36.00netcursejust a FYI, you can add a 3x multiples to your download on curse, it's bugged right now :(
06:37.59netcurselike for questhelper, google analytic says the latest version had 55k hits yesterday
06:38.05netcurseour download count say 18k
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08:17.23charonmorning
08:21.25charonumm
08:21.26charonguys?
08:21.36charonyour email sending script seems to be going amok
08:22.10charoni got 5 identical mails about the release of a single file inside of 4 minutes
08:23.17charonalso, the text-only version of the mail is ugly, to put it midly, but i'm not sure that's a high priority ;)
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08:57.46Pollekeok... I've tried to find an answer to this. But is it possible to link your existing wowace svn rep directory to your curseforge project? Or am I mis understanding something?
08:58.10nevcairielthats not possible
08:59.06Pollekeso what will the purpose be of the wowace svn. Or will it be closed down?
09:01.21charonread http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.0 (from #wowace topic)
09:03.29cncfanaticsPolleke: in short, wowace will still be an independant community, it just will use the curseforge software
09:04.11nevcairielPolleke: the current svn will be closed down, BUT all existing mods on it will be moved to a new svn, much like CurseForge is now
09:04.14charonckknight/Kaelten: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/439-email-script-running-amok/
09:06.03Pollekenevcairiel, and it's up to the authors to claim their addons from there once that moce is complete?
09:06.34nevcairielPolleke: if your name is set properly in the .toc and matches a WoWAce forum account, you'll be assigned the mod directly
09:08.07Pollekenevcairiel, and if I create a curseforge project right now with the same name that won't interfere?
09:08.31nevcairielit probably will
09:09.09Pollekeso I shouldn't do that and patiently wait for the move?
09:10.58charonhttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/440-make-plaintext-emails-prettier/
09:11.03charon(lower priority though)
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11:30.31kagarokeys are supposed to be going out today form blizz arent they ?
11:30.53nevcairieldunno
11:31.10nevcairielI know that WoWI sends their key-candidates in today, but not of blizz sends keys
11:31.38charonlast blue claims i've seen on the forums still stated keys were handed out "randomly"
11:31.50charoni wonder how long they can keep that up if they give out keys via addon sites...
11:31.55nevcairielblues dont really comment on the author keys
11:32.11kagaroKody-:  you hear anything on that front ?
11:32.23nevcairieljust be patient :P
11:32.53charonand do some Real Work in the meantime... not like you'll find the time after getting your key!
11:33.05kagaroafter 100 failed bgs yesterday .. im really wanting to hit beta land
11:33.25kagaromy battlegroup is horrible
11:35.03cncfanaticscharon: people don't seem to complain about authors gettig key non randomly :)
11:35.10cncfanaticsthey like their addons too much
11:35.53charonoh you just wait... they'll start complaining again when the beloved time of backward incompatible changes comes ;)
11:36.23cncfanaticsif people QQ too much about addons I jsut tend to tell em to go write em themselves
11:37.01sbstill waiting for the 2nd curseforge email-batch :p nothing so far :(
11:37.52cncfanaticsI didn't get mine on teh first batch
11:37.53cncfanaticshmmmm
11:37.58cncfanaticsapplied pretty early
11:39.05sbwell yep, there is no response from blizz yet i guess :p
11:39.14sbbut at least your email is already there! :p
12:23.54ckknightI had a dream last night
12:24.08ckknightwhere I got a beta key
12:24.16ckknightit was glorious
12:24.35yoshimo^maybe it will come true later today when blizzard begins working
12:30.12sbblizz 'begins' working"
12:30.14sb?
12:31.02sbi think work will be over for today in 2-3 hours :p
12:31.24nevcairielnot in US
12:32.38sbtrue :p
12:49.03yoshimothey will start at 17:00 european time
12:49.15yoshimoi think
12:49.22yoshimo-9h
12:51.55Vangualif it's any indication, tbc eu invites were sent around 17/18:45 on at least one wave. prolly someone pushing the send queue button before going home
12:53.14yoshimovangual, 18:45 us or european timezone?
12:53.32Vangualbut they seem to have abandoned their java massmailer solution in favour of a pure exchange one for wrath. if the mail headers are any indication
12:53.43Vangualeuropean time yosh
12:54.39yoshimoor if they were from us after entering their building ;)
12:54.56Vangualthe wrath us invites last round came in at 23:50 utc
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13:02.31yoshimoi can wait ;)
13:04.05charonthat's what they all say.
13:15.41yoshimoi ve alternatives ;) raids for example
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14:52.00sylvanaarwhat last round of keys?
14:52.48sylvanaari was thinking they'd go out after 9am PDT or something like that
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14:53.19Vangualthe jul 23rd round
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14:53.52Vangualwhich was blizzcon, wwi and partly betaclub ones only to my knowledge
14:54.30sylvanaarwhats betaclub?
14:54.43Vangualthe people with the special dell/blizzard offer
14:55.28Vangualbut from those apparently a lot didn't get in last round, much to the surprise of blue posters
14:56.13sylvanaaroh man - well, i have my fingers crossed still
14:56.55sylvanaartbc mine arrived at like 2pm
14:56.59Vangualerr jul22 round, stupid local time converted display :)
14:58.41sylvanaarthat was a tuesday
14:58.43VangualX-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2008 23:50:14.0943 (UTC) FILETIME=[B00322F0:01C8EC55]
14:59.04Vangualwhile their massmailer put in: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:50:14 -0700
14:59.35sylvanaarso are they going out on tuesday or monday?
14:59.47sylvanaarguess we'll find out
14:59.56Vangualmails are going out of their system tuesday, or at least the most recent wave did
15:00.16Vangualwhich seems to match up when cairenn is submitting her list on monday
15:00.21sylvanaarthats how it went for tbc too - but cairen was saying every monday
15:01.03sylvanaari must have misunderstood what she was doing on monday
15:01.25Vangualcairenn is submitting her list monday. and her list contains EU members also which needs to be distributed internally by blizz to their eu offices
15:01.35sylvanaaras in, "they go out on monday" meant the keys from bliz
15:03.35sylvanaarwell, tuesday makes more sense - i guess i should have realized that
15:05.10Vanguali don't know why the eu office is involved at all since all hardware resources appear to be hosted i the us. nevertheless (on the bc beta) eu invites went out over their eu mailservers
15:08.26kagarowell monday would make sense, they got the list from curse last week
15:08.40kagarotuesday maybe for eu keys
15:17.48sylvanaari guess i mean - they always do things on tuesday in the us
15:20.26yoshimoevryone trying to guess when the keys will come , this is funny :P
15:22.29Pneumatusi've not seen an influx of people on beta yet tho... everyone still seems to be F&F and WWI
15:23.45Vangualyep
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16:22.34cncfanaticshello all
16:25.35yoshimohi
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16:59.09Dashkalmwrarf
16:59.13Kaeltenheya dash
16:59.20DashkalHey :)
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17:01.11KaeltenZhinjio is ignoring me, lol
17:01.17Kaeltenor he's asleep
17:01.19Kaeltenwho knows
17:02.28Dashkalaww
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17:18.52DashkalGood mornin
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19:32.50Dashkalmeh, I hate it when people downrate a ticket without a reason
19:33.19nevcairielthey probably have a reason
19:35.22DashkalI assume so.  I'd just like to know why.
19:35.31ckknightlink?
19:35.42ckknightalso, I added a hook to curseforge that validates lua syntax
19:35.48Dashkalhttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/86-request-special-commit-messages-to-interact-with-tickets/
19:36.00ckknightI implore you to test it out for bugs
19:37.02ckknightbasically runs luac -p and checks for error messages
19:37.26Dashkaldoes anybody know how well git-svn interacts with wowace?  Specifically, is it smart enough to only nab the revisions that a given project is involved in?  I'd hate to try to clone GridStatusParty and have it hit every single revision to check for changes.
19:37.38ckknightit is not good with wowace
19:37.56ckknightfor an individual project, it might work, though, hadn't tried that
19:37.59Dashkalyech.  Then it can stay on wowace until you do the conversion and I'll clone the mini-repo
19:38.10ckknighttry it out.
19:38.24ckknightI can easily add other syntax checks, btw, e.g. TOC files or xml or what have you
19:38.27Dashkalok, incomming possibly fine, possibly bad hit on the svn
19:38.28ckknightpossibility for later
19:38.45nevcairielits smart enough to work with it Dashkal, its just so damn slow on that big-ass repo
19:38.57Dashkaland definitely thumbs up.  If it doesn't survive luac -p, it shouldn't be in the repo
19:39.23Dashkalthough it would be very handy to be able to override that particular one.  Think pushing an existing repo with some bad commits in its history
19:40.14ckknightDashkal: those commits should be fixed? :-P
19:40.22Dashkalnot appropriate if you're cross-pushing
19:40.25ckknightit only checks the most recent files, btw, and only anything that changed
19:40.46Dashkalthink taking a project that you had been pushing to github or some such and want to clone into CF
19:41.21ckknightfor git, it only checks HEAD, not the in-between commits
19:41.35Dashkalahh ok, then no problem.
19:41.40nevcairielafter all commits of that push have been applied, i hope =P
19:41.58ckknightnevcairiel: it's in the update hook
19:42.00ckknightshrugs
19:42.14nevcairieldoesnt know alot about git hooks
19:42.39Dashkalwell, considering you do have a hook that for good reason validates each and every commit, I figured I should check.
19:42.43ckknightin any event, if any bugs are found, feel free to tell me
19:42.55ckknightDashkal: yea, I make it check only the HEAD on purpose
19:43.05ckknightbecause it's just a convenience thing, really
19:43.09ckknightnot a security thing
19:43.28Dashkalofftopic: Bloddy hell.  I really need to get a DVI cable for this monitor.  Using VGA with the nvidia card and I get ghosting
19:43.39DashkalThat didn't happen with the onboard intel
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19:48.41DashkalOk, who threw a wrench at CF?
19:49.52ckknight?
19:49.59DashkalI can't even connect
19:51.32ckknightapache was down...
19:52.34Dashkalyay httpd boom
19:52.42Dashkals/d b/d go b/
19:53.57Dashkalzomg ckk we disagree: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/175
19:54.16ckknightman
19:54.21ckknightthat'd be a bitch to deal with
19:54.27ckknightI don't wanna code that
19:54.33Dashkalheh, there's that too
19:55.02ckknight*sigh* doable, though
19:55.10Dashkalbut really?  It wouldn't be a simple substitution bit?  Tag for git-describe, tag for current branch, tag for current hash?
19:55.24ckknightcurrently it actually accesses the preprocessor, does process("@project-version@"), basically
19:55.54ckknightallowing you to do "master-@hash@" would be doable
19:55.58ckknightor whatever it is
19:57.04nevcairielI agree with Dashkal, using the last tag as the alpha version base is stupid
19:57.14Dashkalpersonally I'd like to see ${projectName}-${branch}-${hash}.  And I'm sure we'll have other ideas of what's best too
19:57.37ckknightnevcairiel: it's what git describe returns
19:57.44Dashkalnevcairiel: credit to Tekkub.  I liked the existing style until I read that and realized how much more sense branch-hash makes :p
19:57.56nevcairielckknight: what do i care what it returns, its stupid =P
19:58.42ckknightworks very well for me, it's basically {last-tag}-{revisions-since-tag}-{hash}
19:58.47ckknightshrugs
19:58.49Dashkalbut yes, it would be a bitch to deal with that and the three repo types
19:59.09nevcairielimho last-tag in the alpha builds is just wrong
19:59.26ckknightwhy?
19:59.47nevcairielbecause noone does it, and the versioning scheme will confuse people
20:00.48Dashkalnevcairiel: people easily confused shouldn't be fucking with the alpha builds...
20:01.35sylvanaarwhat's the deal with curseforge and libraries - can someone summarize it? if i develop a new library, where does it go?
20:01.46ckknightsylvanaar: make a project
20:01.55ckknightit's just like any other addon
20:02.04ckknightput Libraries as a category
20:02.35sylvanaaryeah, will updating the library put it on the recently updated list?
20:03.04sylvanaari guess, i dont hvae to syndicate it or release it
20:03.18sylvanaarok that works for now
20:05.35Kaeltenyep Zhinjio is either dead or ignoring me
20:05.38Kaelten:(
20:06.48nevcairielDashkal: its still wrong to use a versioning scheme that makes no sense =P
20:07.11Dashkalnevcairiel: If the alphas are for the developer, and if the versioning scheme makes sense to the developer...
20:07.19nevcairieldoesnt to me
20:07.21nevcairielme developer
20:07.22nevcairiel? :)
20:07.33DashkalHence my suggestion to make it configurable :p
20:08.44DashkalMan if I didn't need to be monitoring it for work I'd make myself close gmail so I'd stop being disappointed when the lovely invitation hasn't come yet
20:08.44nevcairielcan git somehow (easily) get the # of commits in this repo?
20:08.49nevcairieluse that for the alpha builds
20:08.50nevcairieland done!
20:09.38DashkalI suppose it could be done repo-wide by counting the blobs?  Dunno
20:09.58Dashkalbut then it would have svn's issue of counting stuff in other branches.  I've always hated that
20:10.06sylvanaarshornames dont allow the '.'
20:10.13sylvanaarLibFoo-1.0
20:10.22ckknightlibfoo-1-0
20:10.39ckknightthey also don't allow caps
20:12.27sylvanaarwait, i can still use LibFo-1.0 in the packager
20:12.38ckknight yea
20:12.44sylvanaarok, that was the confusion
20:12.47ckknightyou set what you want it to package as
20:13.20DashkalGiven that the .0 is never supposed to change, why do we presist in specifying it?
20:14.05nevcairielLibFoo-1 sounds stupid
20:14.21nevcairielalthough, why not create a 1.1 ?
20:15.50Dashkalonce you go 1.1 you just broke backawrds compatability, something traditionally reserved for major increments
20:16.00DashkalAnd I'd just say LibFoo1
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20:16.17ckknightas long as it starts with "Lib", I don't care what you do :-P
20:17.06nevcairielDashkal: now you talk of "tradition" again, but dismissed that on my alpha-tagging? =P
20:17.57DashkalThe whole LibXXX-1.0 thing is 'tradition' too. :p
20:19.35Dashkalbut there's a difference in the cases.  Alpha builds are developer-centric (only really used by the dev and those directly assisting the dev).  Real builds are for general consumption, so conventions are more valuable.
20:20.01nevcairielthat comparison lacks one fact
20:20.08nevcairiellibraries are developer centric too
20:20.50nevcairiel"general consumption" is a bit too wide for libraries :D
20:20.59DashkalIf you change the folder name of a library, you just broke it completely
20:21.33DashkalWorse, if you change the name of the library and don't mark it as a clean break, people will end up getting the new one, breaking addons that use them
20:22.19nevcairielwe actually do consider "1.0" the full major revision, so if you change that, its a break in compat, however 1.1 vs 2.0 would probably just define how major the changes are
20:23.10DashkalConsidering how dependancies work in wow, you pretty much _have_ to fork to make breaking changes *mutters*.  Not so fond of that
20:23.49nevcairielfull rewrite -> 2.0, just cleanup of barely-used APIs and maybe change AceLibrary -> LibStub .. 1.1!
20:23.53Dashkala standard version system as part of the TOC spec would have been nice
20:24.16nevcairielfor our crazy idea of libraries?
20:24.25nevcairielI dont think thats ever going to happen
20:24.35Dashkalit won't.  It would have to be handed down from blizz
20:26.52DashkalI'm probably going to stick with the OSGI style.  Major for breaking changes, minor for new additions, revision for API invisible changes.
20:27.33DashkalBut that's simply a personal preference and sure as hell shouldn't be enforced
20:30.34m4rku5oh and how about a embeds system that handels dependenies with versions and min.ver. requirements etc ;P (you might aswell try to write another linux package manager ;P)
20:31.32Dashkalm4rku5: yep, it'd be nuts, and so it won't happen.  But I'd love it if it did :p
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20:31.49Kaeltenwe've talked about having support for requesting a specific version in the yaml file
20:31.54Kaeltenbut its on the back burner
20:32.15m4rku5well you might just put that into urse client if people would use reasonable tags ;P
20:32.36DashkalKaelten: for that you'd need to have the concept of versions in curseforge.
20:32.54KaeltenDashkal: we do though
20:33.00m4rku5only problem is that maybe xyz-1.0 and xyz-2.0 use the same namespace and f*ck it all up ;P
20:33.04Kaelteneven if you 'delete' a file I know about it
20:33.09Dashkalthe tag v1.5 is just a string.
20:33.10m4rku5other then that a dependencies system wouldnt be that hard ;P
20:33.46Dashkaland can even be changed.
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20:33.54DashkalA CIA bot?
20:34.25Kaeltenyep, we've been promsing it to ya :)
20:34.38Dashkalbounces
20:34.48nevcairieldid you steal tekkubs code for git that ommits the push-spam?
20:35.55nevcairieli hope so :P
20:35.55nevcairiel(21:56:43) (CIA-34) picofriends: Tekkub testes * r4664a9a / : Merge commit '2.4.2.1-Beta' (+19 more commits...)
20:35.55nevcairiel(21:56:50) (@Tekkub) I FUCKING WIN
20:35.58nevcairielthat :)
20:46.11CIA-58ckknight * r42 /trunk/thing.lua: teh pwnage
20:46.18ckknightzomg
20:46.24Dashkal:D
20:46.24ckknightpwnage!
20:46.34DashkalMight wanna add the project name to the template :p
20:46.46Dashkalvery very cool :)
20:46.53ckknightyea, I'm working on it
20:47.30nevcairielnow enable colors
20:47.41nevcairielCIA-58 without colors = no fun
20:47.52DashkalFor some unknown reason I have the intro theme to Chrono Cross stuck in my head
20:50.41CIA-58ckknight * r43 wow/new-curse-test-addon/mainline/trunk/thing.lua: removing said pwnage
20:50.56ckknightwoo
20:51.05ckknightmodule's in there
20:51.14nevcairielthats way too long
20:51.20ckknightgot suggestions?
20:51.24nevcairielcut the wow
20:51.31ckknightbut what about non-
20:51.36ckknightWoW peoples?
20:51.49ckknightprobably doesn't matter that much, tbh
20:51.51nevcairielalso, the "mainlin" could be in the CIA branch field
20:51.54nevcairielthe orange text
20:51.56nevcairielif colors are on
20:52.11ckknighthow do I turn on colors?
20:52.13ckknightblah
20:52.17nevcairiel./mode #curseforge -c
20:52.36nevcairielalso
20:52.43*** mode/#curseforge [-c] by ckknight
20:52.43*** mode/#curseforge [+c] by ChanServ
20:52.46nevcairielhaha
20:53.28nevcairielproject: author branch * r43 /trunk/thing.lua: message
20:53.29nevcairielimho
20:53.55nevcairielnot sure where to place the mainline
20:54.02ckknightmainline/branch
20:54.06ckknight?
20:54.41nevcairielcan you only show it for non-mainline?
20:54.58charonis that for svn?
20:55.00charonor git
20:55.29Dashkalproject[-repo]: author branch... (repo showing only for forks)
20:55.39nevcairielor that
20:55.56nevcairielI like it
20:56.00charoncause well, for git i'd like to see something like: author repo: branch1[15] branch2[10] tag1 tag2
20:56.02nevcairielshould be easy to do with the CIA hooks
20:56.25nevcairielcharon: thats not really possible with CIA :P
20:56.49charonbut the post push hook should be able to figure out the corresponding data?
20:56.56nevcairiel(22:40:53) (CIA-34) idaddon: Industrial master * r1f4ade0 / readme.txt : Added minimal documentation
20:57.03nevcairielgit report
20:57.36nevcairielthats all the fields you will get
20:57.50*** mode/#curseforge [+c] by Kaelten
20:58.31Kaeltenkeep in mind guys using CIA is only an interm solution :P
20:58.41nevcairieli actually like the CIA reporting
20:58.55nevcairielthe style, that is
20:59.04ckknightyea, I like the style, too
20:59.20ckknightokay, I can't get the project to show up at the front without making a project on cia for each curseforge project
20:59.24ckknightbut I can hack it in other ways
20:59.31Dashkalneed a way to allow /only/ CIA to use color codes :p
20:59.39ckknightlol
20:59.49nevcairieljust ban people that spam colors, imho
21:00.09CIA-58ckknight * r44 wow/new-curse-test-addon/mainline/trunk/thing.lua: color?
21:00.14ckknightdammit
21:00.20ckknighthow do I get color?
21:00.22nevcairielyou need to remove the c channel mode
21:00.30ckknightI thought I did
21:00.36nevcairielchanserv re-set it
21:00.36*** mode/#curseforge [-c] by ckknight
21:00.37*** mode/#curseforge [+c] by ChanServ
21:00.41ckknightfucking a
21:02.11*** mode/#curseforge [-c] by Kaelten
21:02.21*** mode/#curseforge [-c] by ckknight
21:02.22Kaeltenand Kody- is the channel owner
21:02.35nevcairielnow you did it, hehe
21:02.48CIA-5803ckknight * r45 10wow/new-curse-test-addon/mainline/trunk/thing.lua: color?
21:02.56ckknightwoo
21:05.33sylvanaarcool, now you have to edit the py script to make it look nice
21:06.02sylvanaaror install it, maybe you did
21:06.54ckknightI'll make it look nice
21:06.57ckknightdoing it now
21:09.15sylvanaarare you using the script on your end?
21:09.41ckknightI can send messages to cia
21:09.44ckknightthat's the best I can do
21:09.52sylvanaaroh
21:10.09sylvanaarthere is a python script that you can use to extract the data
21:10.14sylvanaarwowace uses it
21:11.03ckknightguess what I'm hacking.
21:11.24sylvanaarit provides cia the data (and more detail) directly
21:11.36sylvanaaroh, ok
21:11.37ckknightno it doesn't
21:11.48sylvanaari thought it did
21:11.50ckknighthrm, bugged somewhere.
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21:14.15CIA-5803ckknight 07mainline/trunk * r47 10wow/new-curse-test-addon/thing.lua: blah\!
21:14.57ckknightwell that worked
21:16.03ckknightum, what next?
21:16.20Dashkalok, that looks odd
21:16.23Dashkalponders
21:16.54sylvanaarneed to leave it off if its the trunk
21:17.14DashkalI don't suppose it'll let you put a space between new-curse-test-addon and thing.lua instead of a /?
21:17.15ckknightwant me to have the trunk just not in there at all?
21:17.28sylvanaarand nix the path from the root of the repo
21:17.40ckknightsylvanaar: can't
21:17.45ckknightleast I don't think so
21:17.46ckknightlemme see
21:17.59ckknightlemme try...
21:18.42nevcairielleave mainline and trunk out of it, only use that field if its different =P
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21:20.21ckknightk, took out trunk
21:20.25ckknightnevcairiel: I can do that
21:20.27CIA-5803ckknight 07mainline/trunk * r48 10wow/new-curse-test-addon/thing.lua: blah.
21:20.32ckknightdamn
21:20.34ckknightthe slash stayed.
21:20.41ckknightand wtf, so did the trunk
21:20.48nevcairieldid you save?
21:20.48nevcairiel:D
21:20.59CIA-5803ckknight 07mainline * r49 10wow/new-curse-test-addon/thing.lua: anti-blah.
21:21.01ckknightthat'd do it
21:21.08ckknightI didn't update repos.curseforge.net
21:21.11ckknightokay, trunk's gone
21:21.13ckknightslash is still there
21:23.04CIA-5803ckknight * r50 10wow/new-curse-test-addon /thing.lua: re-blah.
21:23.11ckknighthow's that?
21:23.48nevcairielslashy still there
21:23.54Dashkalbetter.  It doesn't look like there's some strange folder called wow/new-curse-test-addon hiding in the repo a la wowace
21:24.06ckknightnevcairiel: yea, I know, can't get rid of it
21:24.27nevcairiel(also, for wowace, can we dump the wow?)
21:24.34ckknightyea, you will
21:24.35ckknightno issue there
21:24.41Dashkalthere is someway to make it die, though: endeavour * r79350 BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua):
21:24.41ckknightnote that the CIA bot is an interim solution
21:24.52ckknightwe'll roll our own, much more customizeable bot soon enough
21:26.11sylvanaarthe module regex is just not right
21:26.45sylvanaarnevermind, im late
21:27.46ckknightlate = with child?
21:27.46ckknightyes?
21:28.04DashkalCongratulations, sylvanaar!
21:28.31sylvanaarthat /thing.lua, he's not sending the /, thats maybe being formatted by the project regex idk
21:29.01sylvanaar<file action="modify" uri="svn://svn.curseforge.net/wow/new-curse-test-addon/mainline/trunk/thing.lua">thing.lua</file>
21:30.42CIA-5803ckknight * r51 10[wow] new-curse-test-addon /thing.lua: pwnage
21:30.49ckknighthow's that?
21:31.24ckknightinstead of wow/, it's [wow]
21:31.34nevcairielhm
21:31.40nevcairielbetter, i guess
21:31.48charonor wow:addon:/thing ?
21:32.06ckknightanyone else have flashbacks to pre-OS X?
21:32.19charonhuh
21:32.33ckknightthat's their directory separator
21:32.33charoni never had a mac :)
21:32.36charonah
21:32.48charonthough i had great fun trying to copy my addons dir to a vista machine two hours ago
21:32.57Dashkalhuh, I don't remember that.  But the only directory stuff I did with old mac OS was through hypercard XCMDs
21:33.07nevcairiel[wow] addon: author branch * r343 thing.lua
21:33.10nevcairielwould be win
21:33.12charonit silently ignored the (literal) 'libs\LibFoo' directories in one addon due to bad externals
21:33.16nevcairielbut i know its not possible right now
21:33.33charoni mean i could understand if it choked... but it silently ignored any request to copy any files that included such malformed paths
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21:34.24sylvanaarits looking better ckk - now make wow a diffrent color
21:35.07sylvanaarthan the brackets
21:36.09ckknightcan't
21:36.16ckknightor at least, don't know how
21:36.30sylvanaari think you do it from the project page on cia
21:36.48sylvanaaryou are using the default formatter
21:37.16sylvanaarit could be the channel page, i cant remember
21:42.31sylvanaarhttp://cia.vc/doc/rulesets/
21:42.40sylvanaarfrom the channel page filter
21:42.48netcursehello world
21:43.24ckknighthowdy, netcurse
21:43.32sylvanaarhihi
21:45.35DashkalMwrarf
21:47.09sylvanaarwith that markup you can color the r separate from the 51 even
21:50.14ckknightin any event, the CIA bot is only a temporary solution
21:57.48ckknighttemplate change to tickets, tell me what you think: http://www.getdropbox.com/gallery/21127/0/?h=5ea6ee
21:57.56Jim-Bimany news from blizzard concerning the beta keys from the first batch?
21:58.04ckknightthe second image vs. third
21:58.10ckknightsecond is how it is now, third is how it could be
21:58.48ckknighthttp://photos-1.getdropbox.com/i/o/AJM4iZEaEKiMRAcElluCHw1ODsfcZaK59T2iFf-AM2U?dl_name=Picture%207.png vs. http://photos-1.getdropbox.com/i/o/mWEYvZq6CgmKw68EoMIPcVtwynOo4Oi55hX_MuWRaSo?dl_name=Picture%208.png
21:58.49ckknightthere we go
21:59.10ckknightdammit, this dropbox interface is not great
21:59.19Kaeltenthose errored
21:59.34ckknightjust go to http://www.getdropbox.com/gallery/21127/0/?h=5ea6ee
22:00.06Kaeltenckknight: needs a little more padding
22:01.05cladhaireckknight: you can just use images.gammatester.com as well
22:02.22kagaroanyone know of a source to get 1TB drives @ 125 or less usd?
22:15.02CIA-5803sylvanaar * r4 10[wow] enhanced-lfg /.pkgmeta: Added .pkgmeta
22:16.09sylvanaarJim-Bim some people think that they will go out tomorrow
22:16.29Jim-Bimthanks for the information, can't wait
22:16.59sylvanaarJim-Bim originally it was thought it'd be today, but i think that was a misunderstanding
22:17.25Jim-Bimis blizzard us or eu handling them?
22:17.36sylvanaarseparate i think
22:19.30CIA-5803root 071.11 * r5 10[wow] enhanced-lfg /: Tagging as 1.11
22:20.43sylvanaarneed to handle that case
22:22.22Pazza_can you use curseForge svn without +ssh?
22:22.29ckknightyes, Pazza_
22:22.36nevcairielyou shouldnt, though =P
22:22.54Pazza_I keep getting access denied...Yeah i kno i shouldn't but this isn't a live project it is a test.
22:23.15sylvanaartell him how to do it on a mac
22:23.23ckknighthang on...
22:23.39Pazza_i tried importing my addon, but got access denied.. if I imported the folder empty, it worked. added files and updated, got access denied.
22:24.02ckknightgo to http://www.curseforge.com/current-profile/ckknight/repository-authorization/edit/
22:24.05ckknightset your svn password
22:24.33ckknighterr
22:24.34ckknightwait
22:24.41ckknighthttp://www.curseforge.com/users/current-profile/repository-authorization/edit/
22:24.43ckknightthat's the link
22:24.45ckknight*thumbs up*
22:26.04Pazza_i did that again. and just repeated... "Commit failed (details follow):
22:26.04Pazza_Can't get password"
22:26.40ckknightare you entering your password?
22:26.41sylvanaarwhich client do you use on mac ckk?
22:26.47ckknightsvn
22:26.50ckknightcommand line
22:26.52sylvanaarcmd line?
22:26.55sylvanaaroh ok
22:27.00ckknightactually I use TextMate
22:27.05ckknightbut that uses the svn command line tool
22:27.17sylvanaarthats rather humerous in a way - command line on mac
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22:28.36sylvanaartortoise is so damn good, its probably why i like svn so much
22:28.45Pazza_i'll try command line
22:29.19sylvanaarlast time i saw gitgui i lol'ed , i should see if it has improved
22:30.40ckknightPazza_: what username are you using?
22:31.18kagaroTextmate + wow bundle .. go go wow specif function keyword highlighting
22:31.26Pazza_Pazza
22:31.34ckknightPazza_: try "pazza"
22:31.36ckknightlowercase p
22:31.39Pazza_did
22:32.46Pneumatushmm, i wonder if there would be any benefit in making vanilla/tbc/wotlk loot lists for ClassLoot LoD, so you could disable loading old stuff
22:34.17CIA-5803pazza * r2 10[wow] wim-3 /hello.txt: hello
22:34.25ckknightPazza_: ^--
22:34.27ckknight:-P
22:34.33ckknightusing your username/pass
22:34.42CIA-5803pazza * r3 10[wow] wim-3 /WIM_Rewrite.toc: test
22:34.50ckknightthat wasn't me
22:35.33Pazza_i just did that i think... god this is just pissing me off.. either bad software or bad brain today
22:35.44ckknightbrain = software
22:35.52ckknightwell, mind = software, brain = hardware
22:35.54ckknightsorta.
22:35.58ckknightin any event, delicious.
22:36.12Pazza_lol
22:37.07CIA-5803pazza * r4 10[wow] wim-3 /WIM.lua: test 2
22:37.41Pazza_thats going to spam that everytime I try something? lol
22:37.54ckknightyep!
22:37.59ckknightdon't worry about it
22:38.07Pazza_.../ignore me now then.. lol
22:38.37ckknightwill do.
22:42.06Jim-Bimgo for it pazza, can't wait to see wim3, be sure to post in your beta forum :D
22:43.00Pazza_I will. once it has amounted to something. Right now, this is so sylv can tinker around and share ideas.
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22:46.34CIA-5803pazza * r5 10[wow] wim-3 /Localization/ (10 files): Initial Project.
22:46.44sylvanaarI'm a proponent of open development. but we can add it to the filter if you dont want it to show pazza
22:47.14Pazza_I don't mind. Just don't want to cause any spam while im figuring this all out.
22:47.40Pneumatusmaybe have a flag in pkgmeta? :P
22:47.41Dashkalckknight: what will a large commit stack or merge do atm?
22:47.56ckknightwhat do you mean, Dashkal?
22:48.28DashkalIf I were to, say, push a stack of 10 commits to Nexus, what would happen in the channel?
22:48.42ckknightNexus is git or svn?
22:48.45Dashkalgit
22:49.02ckknightnothing would happen since there's no git hook yet
22:49.11Dashkalheh, fair enough
22:49.22Dashkalin that case, keep that in mind if/when you write it :p
22:50.01ckknightyea, thing is, we may write the custom IRC bot soon
22:50.04ckknightcia's just a stopgap
22:50.13Dashkalfair enough
22:50.31Dashkalnot worried.  all my free time is taken lately anyway so not like I'm going to be pushing said stack anytime soon :p
22:52.16Pneumatusdoes cia run from post-commit hooks or something?
22:56.28ckknightyep
23:08.27starlonOh CIA
23:08.30starloncool
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23:19.25CIA-5803sylvanaar * r2 10[wow] prat-3-0 / (37 files in 9 dirs): Import #wowace revision 79217, and um - removed some files that failed the syntax check. nice feature - needs an option
23:23.11Pazza_maybe someone can help me out. i added some more files. when trying to commit it says the directory is locked. any ideas?
23:23.26Pazza_i believe its client side.
23:24.08Pazza_btw.. mac users... this tries to replicate tortoisSVN http://scplugin.tigris.org/
23:24.20Pazza_but i don't think it can handle +ssh. I gotta try.
23:25.17ckknightsvn cleanup
23:25.34sylvanaarsee tortoise would have told you to run that
23:26.26Pazza_lol
23:27.11sylvanaarmaybe i should wait until wowace get imported
23:27.24sylvanaarso i can keep my file history
23:28.03charonPazza_: we (actually, the guy i explained SVN to) tried that today. tell me how it goes. it started out terribly by failing to check out the repo.
23:28.38charon(rapidsvn worked)
23:29.16sylvanaargit might be nice someday - but by the time the tools evolve, there may be something better
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23:31.03charonbtw i've just written an SVN pre-commit that goes through all changed files and rejects if any contain merge markers unless they also have a magic property, if anyone's interested
23:31.06ckknighttools are great for me :-P
23:31.17ckknightcharon: what magic?
23:31.36charonadps:merge-markers where adps is the name of the project :)
23:31.41charoni.e. arbitrarily chosen.
23:32.32CIA-5803pazza * r6 10[wow] wim-3 /Modules/ (. Includes.xml WhisperEngine.lua): some more files less libs till i figure out how to link them.
23:34.39charonoh well... night folks
23:37.53Dashkalhrm, given that the DK starter area is instanced, I wonder if they could make it have a player cap a-la AoC areas to keep it from ovrecrowding
23:38.49Arrowmasterala AoC?
23:38.58Arrowmasteryou mean ala lots of other old MMOs
23:39.13DashkalI've played AoC and wow, so I don't know about "lots of other old MMOs"
23:39.26CIA-5803sylvanaar * r2 10[wow] chatfoundation /services/ (7 files): Add the services folder from prat 3, as a possible design pattern for bottom up modularity
23:39.36Kody-it's not technically instanced, dashkal
23:39.48DashkalBut my point stands.  It would neatly eliminate the launch night crowd
23:39.56ckknightwell, based on your point in the plot, you're basically in another area
23:40.08Kody-yeah but you're not really in another area ;)
23:40.12Arrowmasterso its different zones based on quest progress
23:40.13ckknightyea, yea
23:40.18ckknightsorta.
23:40.22Dashkalok, you have to either be in an instance of another "physical" location :p
23:40.25Kody-different content... hard to explain :P
23:40.37Dashkalnevermind the in-game reasoning :p
23:40.50Arrowmasteris general chat linked between them?
23:40.54Kody-yes
23:41.19Arrowmasterdo you see other people at different parts of the quest line?
23:42.36sylvanaarmulti-repo svn is a pain, i'll give the critics that
23:43.08Arrowmastersvn is a pain
23:43.18sylvanaarno it isnt - multi repo svn is
23:43.29CIA-5803pazza * r7 10[wow] wim-3 / (79 files in 5 dirs): ...
23:47.28CIA-5803sylvanaar * r3 10[wow] chatfoundation /sounds/ (11 files): Chat related sound files
23:48.24sylvanaarwent through that time pazza looks like
23:48.38Pazza_yeah
23:48.58Pazza_i gotta work on the linking of the libs now
23:52.35sylvanaaris there a link to the 3.0 sources
23:52.51sylvanaarof wow
23:53.05sylvanaaror the addonkit?
23:53.11ckknightyes
23:53.13sylvanaarfor the beta client
23:53.22ckknightfuck, don't have it
23:53.27ckknightk, dunno
23:53.36ckknightit was on wowprogramming
23:54.20Pazza_atm im just getting it working on 2.4... I'm just going to up my lib folders sylv for now
23:55.13CIA-5803pazza * r8 10[wow] wim-3 / (16 files in 6 dirs): adding libs
23:56.08ckknightum, how did you add your libs
23:56.09ckknight?
23:56.21Pazza_not linked
23:56.27Pazza_just what i have in my folder
23:57.38ckknightick
23:57.54ckknightI implore you to read: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/pages/pkgmeta-file/
23:59.33Pazza_i'll clean it when i get home. I thought that only applied when it was packaged not updated.

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