IRC log for #curseforge on 20080820

00:00.26ckknightand that ideal case is also kind of impossible, at least if it's on the left you know it's wrapped, as well
00:01.04Aiianethat works
00:01.17Aiianewith the color coding, you could just remove the +/- if you wanted
00:01.27ckknightnah
00:02.30Aiianeckknight - you know there's a text-indent CSS property, right?
00:02.38ckknight:-P
00:02.39Aiianethat applies to only the first line of the element
00:02.43ckknightyea, yea
00:02.51ckknightit's fine as is, imo
00:02.58Aiianemeh :) nitpicky me
00:03.00ckknightcause I don't want it to seem like it's its own line
00:04.41Aiianewell
00:04.50Aiianeif it's colored then you know it has a + per line :P
00:05.27ckknighttrue
00:05.28ckknightoh well
00:05.30ckknightI dunno
00:05.35ckknightit can be adjusted later easily
00:05.42Aiianemhm
00:05.49Aiianelike i said, im nitpicky/perfectionist
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00:46.20DHS[war] achievementhelper: 03ackis * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): I don't have a clue what I'm doing but it's sure fun
00:46.59ckknightgz, Ackis
00:50.34Ackisty too bad it's not working worth shit
00:51.03Aiianehm
00:51.06Aiianegoes to look
00:51.28Ackisthat was just an inital commit Aiiane
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01:31.26ArrowmasterAiiane: CSS3 has a shitload of new properties for text formatting
01:31.41AiianeCSS3 is also not as widely implemented
01:38.27Arrowmasternope its not
01:38.57Arrowmastermy error console is full of messages about CSS3 properties that Firefox3 doesnt recognize yet
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02:14.05Aiianehmm... slight issue with the current curse client; Find an Addon doesn't differentiate between games :P
02:14.12Aiianeer, current beta curse client :P
02:29.50Ackishttp://www.dccomics.com/dcunlimited/wow/?action=catalog Series 3/4 collection
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03:47.52Ackiswheee someone submitted outfitter for CF haha /fail
03:50.52ckknightnot the author or something?
03:51.49Ackisnope
03:51.57Ackisplus outfitter is already there
03:52.24Ackishttp://wow.curseforge.com/projects/addon/
03:52.33AckisI'm stupid, but not *that* stupid
03:52.41ckknightthe fucking short name is "addon"?
03:52.49Ackisyup
03:52.51Ackislol
03:52.57ckknightshitcan it
03:53.06Ackisalready 3 steps ahead of you my friend
04:42.27DHS[wow] creaturecomforts: 03phanx * r11 / (5 files in 1 directory): - Remove files since I'm not using this for development
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04:47.23DHS[wow] unlinked: 03phanx * r4 / (4 files in 1 directory): - Remove files since I'm not developing here
04:50.50DHS[wow] shieldsup: 03phanx * r3 / (9 files in 1 directory): - Remove files since I'm not developing here
04:52.09DHS[wow] speedometer: 03phanx * r4 / (4 files in 1 directory): - Remove files since I'm not developing here presently
04:53.11DHS[wow] phanxchat: 03phanx * r3 / (5 files in 2 directories): - Remove files since I'm not developing here presently
05:07.13Jedricthats nice how you guys have it announce to the channel
05:07.24Jedrichave to teach me how to do that :)
05:14.54ckknightJedric: write an IRC bot?
05:15.29ckknightactually DHS is a Supybot, I got an extension to listen to incoming requests from a specific IP
05:15.41ckknightpost-commit hooks then send a request
05:15.54Jedricnice
05:15.54ckknightit also does some queries on the db if you give it a command
05:15.58ckknight@project cartographer3
05:15.58DHSckknight: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/. Cartographer 3.0. Game: WoW. Leader: ckknight. Updated: 39 hours ago. Tickets: 46/155
05:16.17Jedric@project autoloot
05:16.18DHSJedric: http://war.curseforge.com/projects/autoloot/. AutoLoot. Game: WAR. Leader: Aiiane. Updated: 3 hours ago
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05:16.46Jedrici like :)
05:16.54ckknightalso @ticket
05:17.18Jedric@kick ckknight
05:17.18Jedricdarn
05:17.18Jedriclol
05:17.18DHSJedric: Error: You don't have the #curseforge,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
05:17.47Jedricnice
05:18.12ckknight@list
05:18.12DHSckknight: Admin, Channel, Config, CurseForge, ExternalControl, Limiter, Misc, Owner, Services, User, and Utilities
05:18.18ckknight@list CurseForge
05:18.18DHSckknight: project and ticket
05:18.24ckknight@help ticket
05:18.24DHSckknight: (ticket <project> <ticket-num> or <game>/<project> <ticket-num>) -- Returns details about the ticket
05:18.29ckknight@ticket curseforge 500
05:18.30DHSckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/500-abandon-project-leads-to-403-forbidden-page/. 500 - Abandon Project Leads to 403 Forbidden Page. Reported by: sylvanaar. Type: Defect. Updated: 11 days ago. Component: Admin. Status: Fixed. Priority: Medium. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: 0. Comments: 3
05:18.39ckknightsee
05:18.58Jedrici never thought irc could be so useful lol
05:20.28DHS[wow] buffzilla: 03funkjedi * abe2ddb62a5a /: Initial release
05:22.36Jedric@project buffzilla
05:22.36DHSJedric: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/buffzilla/. Buffzilla. Game: WoW. Leader: funkjedi. Updated: 3 minutes ago
05:33.28DHS[wow] lorhin: 03carancu * r5 Gui.lua:
05:33.28DHSa debugging output had sneaked into a place it should not have been.
05:35.16DHS[wow] buffzilla: 03funkjedi * 97da9469e154 .pkgmeta: Added .pkgmeta file to project
05:40.54DHS[war] libslash: 03aiiane * r5 / (3 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
05:40.54DHSWorking commit. Basic addon to register slash commands.
05:40.54DHS- LibSlash.RegisterSlashCmd(string, function)
05:40.57DHS- LibSlash.UnregisterSlashCmd(string)
05:41.01DHS- LibSlash.IsSlashCmdRegistered(string)
05:44.21DHS[war] libslash: 03aiiane 04v1.0 * r6 : Working release.
05:46.02DHS[wow] wim-3: 03pazza * r33 / (11 files in 4 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
05:46.02DHSChanged Skin schema & added new method of positioning of widgets.
05:46.02DHSAdded a pseudo widget "resize". Although it appears as a widget only one of these objects exist and is shared between all windows. Holding shift while hovering over the window will allow you to dynamically size it.
05:46.07DHSAdded visual effect to close button. The default action of hiding the window is more intuitive.
05:46.11DHSModified how skins are applied to windows. At this time, 3rd party skins can not be loaded.
05:49.51DHS[war] libslash: 03aiiane * r7 / (3 files in 2 directories): Fix paths :|
05:50.32DHS[war] libslash: 03aiiane 04v1.0-release * r8 : Tagging with fixed file paths.
05:51.01DHS[war] libslash: 03aiiane 04v1.0 * r9 : Messed up path.
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06:19.26DHS[war] libslash: 03aiiane * r10 LibSlash.mod:
06:19.26DHSBump to 1.1, let's make the addon name as WAR sees it match the addon name as we see it.
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06:20.34DHS[war] libslash: 03aiiane 04v1.1-release * r11 :
06:20.34DHSReleasing version with identical MOD and folder names for ease of use.
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06:26.22DHS[war] zchatwindow: 03adalyn * c6d0aece29d7 /: Initial Commit
06:36.06Aiianeckknight: this is why activity log entries should be truncated with an option to view the full diff - http://wow.curseforge.com/admin/activities/page-83-readme/
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07:01.16DHS[war] zchatwindow: 03adalyn * a0dd4da5a141 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added /rl as a slash command, thanks Aiiane
07:01.41DHS[war] zchatwindow: 03adalyn 07v0.1 * v0.1 / (2 files in 1 directory): (2 revisions total)
07:01.41DHSAdded /rl as a slash command, thanks Aiiane
07:01.41DHSInitial Commit
07:04.38nevcairieltagging still shows all commits in that tag
07:04.40nevcairielhehe
07:04.58Aiianemhm
07:04.59Aiiane:|
07:05.06Aiianemakes for a really spammy sequence
07:05.11Aiianeif you commit to trunk and also tag
07:05.21nevcairielit should cut off after a few commits
07:05.45nevcairielbut maybe someone should rewrite that handler to just say "Tagged master as v0.1"
07:06.09Aiianeyou know what ckknight would tell you to do
07:06.12Aiianemake a ticket :P
07:06.35nevcairielbut i'm even more lazy then he is
07:06.57nevcairieland i just woke up
07:07.11DHS[war] zchatwindow: 03adalyn 07v0.1-release * v0.1 / (2 files in 1 directory): (2 revisions total)
07:07.11DHSAdded /rl as a slash command, thanks Aiiane
07:07.11DHSInitial Commit
07:07.44nevcairielWhy do people re-tag with -release in the name o.O
07:08.20AiianeIunno why he retagged in that case
07:08.42Aiianemy tag before when I did v1.0 and v1.0-release was because I had actually messed up the first one in terms of svn directory structure
07:08.52Aiianebut didn't really want to change the addon version just because I re-laid out svn
07:10.07Aiianethe packager had already discovered v1.0 though (which is how I figured out I had screwed it up, when I tested the package)
07:10.14Aiianeso I needed a new tag name... hence, v1.0-release! :P
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09:15.14SkyFlashhey guys, I got a problem with the curse client... its not showing any warhammer addons
09:15.21SkyFlashplus i am not able to get rid of the WOW part
09:16.30SkyFlashand if i do "find an addon" it mixes up wow and warhammer addons and there is no way to tell what game the addon is for...
09:16.54SkyFlashunless Aiiane did autoloot for wow as well
09:16.57SkyFlash:P
09:18.28SkyFlashplus the search is not updating the addon list unless you switch tabs... erm...
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09:27.41SkyFlashguess ya all are sleeping, hu? :P
09:31.09netcursei would guess ckknight is sleeping
09:32.10SkyFlashyup probably... what time is in the US? :P
09:32.27netcurse4h30 for ckk
09:32.36netcursei'm in germany right, at the game convention
09:32.39netcursenow*
09:37.04SkyFlashcool
09:37.18SkyFlashya leipzig is 5 gours from me
09:37.21SkyFlashhours
09:37.29SkyFlashso i am not gonna go there this year
09:37.32netcurseyou should come, it's awesome
09:37.33SkyFlashprobably next though
09:37.36SkyFlashya i KNOW
09:37.38SkyFlashdamn :P
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10:11.43cncfanaticsckknight: ping
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11:35.36ZyuuSkyFlash post a ticket
11:35.40Zyuuunder Curse Client
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12:38.59cncfanatics~seen ckknight
12:39.00purlckknight is currently on #waruidev (11h 21m 54s) #norganna (11h 21m 54s) #wowuidev (11h 21m 54s) #wowace (11h 21m 54s) #curseforge (11h 21m 54s). Has said a total of 16 messages. Is idling for 7h 20m 21s, last said: 'see'.
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12:50.20DHS[wow] goingprice_allakhazam: 03neikos * r164 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updating to version 2.4.1219236584
12:50.23DHS[wow] goingprice_allakhazam: 03neikos 042.4.1219236584 * r165 : Tagging version 2.4.1219236584
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13:13.17Kaelteng'morning
13:27.21CarancuKody, you got the reply to the mail you sent me after I poked you people in here about a week and a half ago? (9th of august, about the key-giveaway)?
13:27.45CarancuSee, this time I even use the same nick in here as I got on CF! ;)
13:29.19Carancuoh, and good morning Kaelten (a bit late, but better late than never)
13:29.25Kaeltensnifs
13:29.30Kaeltenthank you I was beginning to worry
13:31.57Kaelten:P
13:32.49Carancuhey, it's not as bad as the swedish mail system, they lost another mail adressed for me this month...
13:49.18DHS[wow] portalfu: 03crazybenny * r9 PortalFu.lua: small optimization
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14:39.26AckisWorkhttp://wow.curseforge.com/projects/gms/ -> GM Commands Project -> Make gm commands available to players -> nuked
14:40.38Kaeltenjeez
14:40.59Kaeltentoo bad the guy didn't upload the code
14:41.30Kaeltenif it had worked I'd ahve sent it to blizz
14:41.59nevcairielJust check wowui
14:42.04nevcairielwill be there at some point =P
14:42.06AckisWorkKaelten: after I was allowed to "test" it out right?
14:42.25Kaelten~lart AckisWork
14:42.25purlaccelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets AckisWork feel it
14:42.42Kaeltennevcairiel: heh, true enough
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14:52.24AckisWorkzyuu!
14:52.28AckisWorkI need you!
14:55.54KaeltenAckisWork: your gf just face palmed again didn't she
14:56.38AckisWorkI'm at work
14:56.41AckisWorkand she's at home
14:56.47AckisWorkshe doesn't move in for another 2-3 weeks
14:56.52Kaeltenlol
14:56.59AckisWork(but she would've facepalmed)
14:57.04nevcairielWasnt she on Ackis the other day
14:57.12AckisWorkthat was a few weeks ago
14:57.19AckisWorkwell more than a few
14:57.56nevcairielI lose track of time when i'm under stress, sorry =P
14:58.02Kaeltennevcairiel: stress?
14:58.11Kaeltenis the forum templates that overwhelming?
14:58.29nevcairielnah, but its not the only thing on my mind =P
14:58.37AckisWorknevcairiel: at least you don't have the stress of not having a murky :(
14:58.46nevcairieli dont have a murky
14:58.58AckisWorkyah but you don't care :P
14:58.59nevcairielnor a lurky, or a gurky
14:59.06Kaeltenthat's a stress I do not know either ackis
14:59.21AckisWorkI hate you all /emoslit
14:59.28nevcairielAckisWork: i want a captured firefly :(
14:59.33AckisWorkI have one of those
14:59.40nevcairielthey are so expensive
14:59.42AckisWork(being famous = I got it super cheap from a fan ahahah)
15:00.07nevcairielI actually traveled around and bought all vendor pets
15:00.28nevcairielI'm lucky to have a emerald whelpling
15:00.57AckisWorkI destroyed some of the vendor ones for horde when I transfered
15:00.59nevcairielfarming the blue one when i have time
15:01.59nevcairielNo-one can ever have _all_ pets now, can he
15:02.00AckisWorkyah that was a recent one I got
15:02.07AckisWorkwww.warcraftpets.com you can try :P
15:02.23nevcairielDont you have to choose pets for collectors edition?
15:02.33AckisWorkhttp://warcraftpets.com/account/profile.asp?user=ackis
15:02.37AckisWorkyes you can get 1/3 for them
15:03.32nevcairielhaha i have a peanut =P
15:04.37AckisWorkit's only been out for 2 years so you can't have all 3 :P it'll be my third muhahahaha
15:05.09nevcairielyou are horde eh?
15:05.13nevcairielno spirit darter for you?
15:05.15nevcairielgiggles
15:05.39AckisWorkaye I'm horde
15:05.42AckisWorkimma TROLL
15:05.43AckisWorkrawr
15:06.24nevcairielI wonder if i even have the darter on my druid
15:06.29nevcairielbut i could always do the quest
15:07.22nevcairielI'll probably do all that once 3.0 hits and i dont have to waste space on those
15:08.46AckisWorkaye
15:23.05DHS[war] achievementhelper: 03ackis * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
15:23.05DHSAchievementHelper:
15:23.06DHS- Revise the click achievement
15:23.08DHS- Add friends list achievement
15:23.12DHS- Add tell achievement
15:24.15Pneumatushmm, i should come up with a better way of localising class/spec names, as they are already in babble libs
15:26.32ckknightAckisWork: why are you prefixing with AchievementHelper:?
15:26.38AckisWorkckknight: habbit
15:28.30Pneumatusprefixing?
15:28.33Pneumatusthe commit message?
15:28.41ckknightyea
15:28.49ckknightthere's no point on CurseForge like on wowace
15:28.50Pneumatusheh, i do the same
15:29.21Pneumatushmm, i know
15:29.46Pneumatusi could have a Constants file, which does all the babble lookups rather than localising separately
15:30.02Pneumatuswith a constants table
15:31.02Pneumatusi'm not sure im keen on the idea of putting a constants table into global namespace though
15:31.06Pneumatuswhen it should really only be local
15:31.41ckknightPneumatus: what I'd do is set it as a global in one file then turn it into a local in another and remove the global
15:31.52pewpewarrowsis there a reason there aren't more categories in the war ui projects?
15:31.57pewpewarrowslike pvp, combat, etc?
15:32.02pewpewarrowswell I guess it'd be rvr
15:32.05Pneumatusckknight: just by setting the global to nil once its been used?
15:32.15Pneumatuswell, set a local
15:32.29ckknightyea
15:32.36Pneumatusthat would work
15:32.37ckknightjust nil out the global after-the-fact
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15:43.18Pneumatushmm, im sure i saw a babble lib with all of the talent trees in somewhere
15:44.05ckknightclearly an awesome project: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cas/
15:44.19Pneumatusfour-oh-four :P
15:53.27Kaeltenlmao
15:53.30Kaeltenis he sure?
15:54.04AckisWorkGod I'm so itchy
15:54.09AckisWorksunburn is healing
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16:07.30cncfanaticsckknight: ping
16:07.37ckknighthowdy, cncfanatics
16:09.20cncfanaticshad a bugreport for you
16:09.24cncfanaticson carto3
16:09.47cncfanaticsthe player arrow, it sometimes stops moving
16:10.04cncfanaticseasyest way to make it stop is mouseovering over a zone you're currently not in
16:10.10cncfanaticsthe player arrow will instantly freeze
16:10.52ckknightcause it can't get the current position
16:11.10cncfanaticshmm , why is that ?
16:15.48ckknightcause Blizzard doesn't have an API to get your global position, just what is shown on the zone you're looking at
16:15.59ckknightsince you mouseover a different zone, it switches to a different zone
16:17.26cncfanaticshmmm
16:17.36cncfanaticscouldn't it switch to the current zone every few frames ?
16:17.44cncfanaticsand then switch back to the zone ur mouseovered
16:17.48cncfanaticsit wouldn't even be noticable to the user
16:17.53cncfanaticsand would let you update the position
16:18.30ckknightthat'd be horrible
16:18.34ckknightbad memory leaks and such
16:18.45ckknightalso, third party addons would have to do a complete redraw
16:19.03cncfanaticshmmm, sounds like blizz' map system is messy then :hmmm,o
16:19.45cncfanaticscould we get a switch to let carto stick to the current zone even if we mouseover another one then ?
16:20.00cncfanaticsso i can about correctly guess what direction I should take when flying somewhere
16:23.41ckknightno
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16:25.11cncfanatics:(
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16:45.36DHSReorganized the directory structure so that it actually works
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16:49.12Kaeltenhttp://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/07/20/silicon-knights-sues-epic-over-unreal-engine-3-issues
16:49.14Kaeltenjeez
16:52.42nevcairielstandard business in the gaming industry =P
16:58.08Kaeltenya, still
16:58.11Kaeltenjeez
16:58.51Kaeltenalthough that is like saying "wtf, why isn't django outputting my pages...  I've installed it and all"
16:58.56Kaeltenwell not exactly
16:58.57Kaeltenbut still
17:01.28AiiKaelten: why isn't django outputting my pages, I didn't bother to install it because that looked hard
17:01.59KaeltenAii: oh, thats easy to fix.  go to your terminal.  Type cd /  
17:02.05Kaeltenthen do sudo rm -rf *
17:02.09Kaeltentype in your password
17:02.17Kaeltenit'll take a few mins but all will be better after you do that
17:02.25Kaelten:)
17:08.01AckisWorkhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jul/17/internet.security
17:10.54Kaeltenawww Aii didn't like my joke
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17:26.18DHS[wow] classloot: 03pneumatus * r33 / (9 files in 1 directory): ClassLoot:
17:26.18DHS- Switch to using LibBabble-Class-3.0 and LibBabble-TalentTree-3.0 rather than maintaining our own translations
17:26.18DHS- Remove ClassLoot_Data and ClassLoot_Data_Updated from global space once we have a local copy
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17:26.46AckisWorkPneumatus: did you look at talented at all?
17:26.55Pneumatusumm, no
17:27.38Pneumatuswhat was i looking for?
17:28.10AckisWorkit deals with all those talents and stuff, how they localize the data
17:28.49AckisWorkhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Talented/
17:29.05Pneumatusah, right
17:29.09AckisWorkhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Talented_Data/
17:31.26Pneumatusheh, Talented still uses BabbleClass-2.0
17:31.32Pneumatuser, 2.2
17:34.12AckisWorkwas worth a look at least
17:35.01Pneumatusi just rewrote BabbleSpellTree-2.2 to run libstub
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17:35.42PneumatusTalented doesnt so much need to lookup translations anyway, as it as all the localised transaltions it needs in the current interface
17:36.08Pneumatusi mean, you cant open a talent window for another class with Talented, if you see what i mean
17:36.55AckisWorkyes you can :)
17:37.14Pneumatushow o.O
17:37.24AckisWorkhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Talented_Data/
17:37.34Pneumatusah
17:38.08Pneumatusdidnt install _data
17:40.00Pneumatusyeh, talented data has talent tree names wirtten into their locale files
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18:07.31Zyuuhttp://www.fz.se/nyhetsarkiv/?id=26981
18:07.32Zyuugood stuff
18:15.06DHS[wow] autotext: 03quaiche 04v1.0-Beta3 * r23 : Tagging as v1.0-Beta3.
18:15.06DHSPLEASE DELETE THE AutoText_FuBar FOLDER BEFORE SWITCHING TO THIS BETA.
18:15.53nevcairiellol
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18:54.43PProvost|workDo the descriptions publish to curse on the 20-min refresh timer or only when I tag a beta?
18:55.11Kodymmm... I don't know to be honest :(
18:55.17KodyThe cache system is really buggy on Curse right now
18:56.15ckknightPProvost|work: there's a sync that happens once a minute, but it can take up to 20
18:57.07PProvost|workgotcha
18:57.09PProvost|worktahnks
19:23.53DHS[war] healgrid: 03skyflash * r2 / (5 files in 2 directories): First upload
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19:55.09Zyuuboom there goes the network
19:57.04Kaeltenyep all of our sites in fortressitx are down
19:57.19Kaeltenwe've contacted the hosters and are awaiting feedback
19:57.31Zyuuits up now for me
20:00.27Kaelten...
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20:01.59ckknightI need ideas for the next curseforge poll
20:03.06nevcairiel"Does this poll stink?"
20:03.27ckknighthehe
20:04.22ckknightalright, I got one
20:04.30ckknightWhat superpower would you want?
20:04.38Zyuuhmmmmmm
20:04.41Zyuugo through walls
20:04.48Zyuuor invisibility
20:05.08nevcairielbeating-over-internet
20:05.10nevcairielplease
20:05.22ckknightokay, nevcairiel
20:06.15Pneumatusrename DHS
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20:06.34ckknightPneumatus: to?
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20:06.50nevcairielRepo!
20:07.12Pneumatusmake a poll :P
20:07.19Pneumatus(Repo)
20:07.30nevcairielRepo the Repository Bot
20:07.43ckknightit doesn't just handle Repo stuff
20:07.48nevcairielwho cares
20:07.50ckknightit provides ticket info
20:08.06ckknightgranted, Repo can also mean reposession...
20:08.09ckknight:-P
20:08.16ckknightRepo Depot!
20:08.18nevcairielRepo the Repo-Man
20:09.39Pneumatuswill the same bot be managing wowace2.0?
20:09.46ckknightyea, Pneumatus
20:09.57Pneumatusso it cant even be cf specific
20:10.21ckknightright
20:10.44nevcairielI still like Repo
20:11.23ckknightInvisibility, X-Ray vision, Travel through walls, Punching people through the internet, Flying (with or without wings), Gigantic brain
20:11.25ckknightwhat else?
20:11.50nevcairielyou know how silly a gigantic brain looks?
20:12.05ckknightyes.
20:12.35Pneumatusi'm gonna lose my rag in a minute if i dont beat skyshatter
20:21.44ckknightokay, new poll in 4 hours
20:35.20Aiickknight: ModDev might also work as a bot name
20:36.02AckisWorkso ckknight I switched AchievementHelper from svn to git to test out git tonight at my house, I'm sure a bug will crop up since I switched it over
20:36.46ckknightokay then
20:36.47AckisWorkjust giving you a heads up :P
20:37.06ckknightoh yea
20:37.10ckknightcause you keep breaking things
20:37.13AckisWorkaye
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20:45.45Aiickknight: ping
20:45.55ckknighthey
20:46.19Aiicheck the packager activity log
20:46.26ckknightyea, already on it
20:46.28Aiiit just died trying to package from an hg repo
20:46.36Aiiwhy is it trying to run git for an hg repo? :P
20:46.48nevcairielbecause someone fails!
20:47.26nevcairielis the packager log public?
20:47.29nevcairielwant to see!
20:47.39Aiiit's in the admin panel
20:47.46nevcairielboo :P
20:47.46Aiiso if you're a mod you can see, otherwise no
20:47.47ckknightAii: because it was a typo
20:47.50Aiickknight: lol
20:47.57nevcairielthen i have to wait for the wowace switch to get rights
20:48.15ckknightalright, fixed
20:48.32ckknightah, fucking a
20:49.06Kaeltennevcairiel: oh?
20:49.20ckknightnevcairiel: if you're nice to me, I could make you an admin
20:49.24ckknightI think you get a button
20:49.29ckknightbut you gotta pay fees
20:50.02nevcairielfees? =P
20:50.07Kaeltennevcairiel: you're a mod on cf now
20:50.12KaeltenI can remove it if you want
20:50.33nevcairieli can figure out if i have to write more tickets for that part now, thats fine :D
20:51.33ckknighthehe
20:51.40nevcairielhm i see you created a LibStub repo? Any reason to not just wait until WoWAce auto-creates that? =P
20:51.45ckknightwarhammer
20:51.51nevcairieloh
20:51.55nevcairielokies
20:52.00nevcairielthats not obvious enough :D
20:53.00Aiinevcairiel: it's on war.curseforge.com :P
20:53.13nevcairielneeds a obvious image or something
20:53.16nevcairielto indicate the game
20:53.23nevcairieland well, i'm watching a movie
20:53.24nevcairiel;)
20:53.25ckknightI agree, nevcairiel
20:53.31ckknightwe need an artist
20:53.37ckknightor someone who is good at stealing art.
20:53.44ckknightsame difference, though
20:54.05nevcairielI have 2 addons that i only keep locally because i stole the artwork they use
20:54.07nevcairieldoes that count?
20:54.08nevcairiel:P
20:55.06ckknightlol
20:55.26Kaeltennevcairiel: you're an artist my friend!
20:55.30nevcairielhah
20:57.59AckisWorkhe's a sandwich artist!
21:00.51nevcairieloh btw Kaelten, get to know git some day, you'll notice how much better then hg it is =P
21:01.30Kaeltenna
21:01.32Kaeltenhg is great :)
21:01.38nevcairielgit is greater!
21:01.51Kaeltenna
21:01.59ckknightKaelten: seriously, you haven't tried git, I know you haven't. I really, really recommend trying it
21:02.15sylvanaarhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fanboi
21:02.49Kaeltenckknight: and you'd be wrong.  
21:02.52KaeltenI have and I didn't like it
21:03.02ckknightwhen was this?
21:03.03ckknightand for what project?
21:03.14ckknightand what did you not like?
21:03.25Kaeltenit was when I was exploring dvcs about a year or so ago
21:03.41ckknightit's gotten better since then, ui-wise
21:03.42nevcairielgit really matured in the last year, though
21:03.51sylvanaarthe ui still sucks
21:04.02nevcairielcommandline is all you need =P
21:04.38AckisWorkfrom my investigations into it today, it looks overly complex
21:04.41nevcairielis hg at least similar to git usage-flow-wise?
21:04.49Kaeltennevcairiel: similar
21:04.49sylvanaarwhen i used DOS, thats true it was all i needed
21:05.15nevcairielwell you cannot compare git/hg to svn or any of the other server-based VCS, AckisWork
21:06.01KaeltenAckisWork: I explain hg by saying that there is a step between the standard update and commit your used to.  Where you revision your work in progress locally
21:06.20Kaeltenand really after you get that one difference its very simple from there
21:07.00AckisWorknevcairiel: the only one I used before joining wowace was cvs :P
21:07.11Kaelten~comfort AckisWork
21:07.12purlThere, there, AckisWork.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
21:07.19AckisWorkheh
21:07.27AckisWorkI'm sure I'll like git once I understand it more
21:07.34KaeltenAckisWork, basically svn update becomes hg pull  svn commit becomes hg push  
21:07.34nevcairielWell in git you essentially have one (ideally one that keeps a overview of things - per module if you wish) maintainer, that merges forks/branches into the master, so thats an extra step to take, but ensures code quality =P
21:07.39AckisWorktekkub gave me some links to read/etc
21:07.42Kaeltenand you can hg ci in between
21:08.48sylvanaargit is designed to work the way the linux kernel developers work - it fits their usage pattern
21:08.56nevcairielyou branch for every change, and instruct the maintainer to merge your branch into the master
21:09.11AckisWorkit's uhmmm been suggested that I branch my dry-codes then merge them later which is annoying to do in svn, but is supposed to be easier w/ git, I haven't looked at hg at all
21:09.12nevcairielthose pattern are not bad though, they ensure a good workflow
21:09.52Pneumatusmerging in git is much prettier than merging in svn though, isnt it?
21:10.00nevcairieloh yes
21:10.09ckknightby far.
21:10.22Kaeltenbah you damn'd git fanbois!
21:10.23Kaelten:P
21:10.32Pneumatusi dont use git, Kaelten
21:10.35Pneumatusi'm happy with SVN
21:10.37ckknightwhat? I've tried both hg and git on a regular basis
21:10.41nevcairielthe git philosophy is that every developer essentially runs his own repository (his own clone), and creates branches on that, pushes them to that clone, and the maintainer pulls and merges those branches
21:10.42Pneumatushell, i was happy with CVS
21:10.47nevcairieldunno how the hg people keep that
21:10.47KaeltenPneumatus: I'm just giving them a hard time :P
21:11.30Kaeltennevcairiel: you can work that way in hg if you want
21:11.30ckknightnevcairiel: for me, I mostly like having the option of doing that, but I'd be fine sharing a project with another author or two (granted, no more than that)
21:11.44ckknightthough, I'd be hacking that way locally, then merge into cf
21:11.47nevcairielwell it gets weird with branch-names at some point ckk =P
21:11.55ckknighttrue
21:12.02Kaeltennevcairiel: branch-names?
21:12.02ckknightshrugs
21:12.14nevcairielunless you enforce a naming scheme, like "<initials>-<description>"
21:12.29ckknightI usually keep my branches local
21:12.33ckknightand just push my master
21:12.44Pneumatusholy crap, i have a feeling i might actually see my first GM in a minute
21:12.44nevcairielwell sometimes you do want to share changes before master'ing them
21:13.09Kaelten:s whats going on with his images
21:14.16Kaeltenoh bah
21:14.17Kaelten:S
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21:14.29nevcairielimages?
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21:20.33Pneumatusthe GM wouldnt show up, he just instagibbed the bugged mob :<
21:23.06nevcairielfrom reading the hg manual now, i prefer git, really =P
21:29.58nevcairielits alot more like a distributed svn
21:39.04ckknightnevcairiel: hg is or git is?
21:39.12nevcairielhg
21:39.17ckknightyea, sorta
21:39.35ckknightI dunno
21:40.52nevcairielknowing git and svn, reading hg manual confuses me
21:40.59nevcairielits a mixture of both
21:41.10nevcairielalso their manual is too wordy =P
21:41.20nevcairielanyway, sleep time for me
21:44.42ZyuuJoin Us ist ein kleines, feines AddON, welches es den Gildenmeistern und deren Vertrauten leichter macht, neue Mitglieder zu werben.
21:44.45Zyuudoes that mean
21:44.50ZyuuJoin Us is a guild package
21:44.51Zyuu?
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21:53.34Kaeltennevcairiel: ^
21:56.03Zyuunm
21:56.18ZyuuJoin us is a little, nice AddOn, what makes it easier for guildleaders (guildmasters) to hire new member
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22:40.42ckknightanyone want to hear an idea?
22:40.48KodyNo!
22:41.10ckknightinstead of having descriptions be their own thing, instead just make them part of the Pages system, with the title of "Description"
22:41.20ckknightso if you have a page called "Description", it's the same as your project description
22:41.36ckknightalso, I could add locale specificity to pages
22:41.44ckknightso you'd have Description, Description (deDE), etc.
22:45.23Aiidoes the pages system have a choice of markup? or is it automatically Curse Wiki
22:45.31Aii(haven't looked)
22:45.52ckknightchoice
22:49.06ckknightAii: any thoughts?
22:50.09Aiium
22:50.12Aiidoesnt really matter to me
22:50.24AiiI just want an easier way to edit it when viewing my project's home page
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22:59.12ckknightAii: the way you would is click the "Description" page and edit there
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