IRC log for #curseforge on 20081010

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00:24.59ckknightanyone up?
00:25.19Yssarilwavve
00:25.43ckknightI'm gonna do kind of a big update to curseforge
00:25.49ckknightbasically backporting wowace stuff to curseforge
00:26.15ckknightso once I do it, if you can browse the site a bit and tell me what you think, that'd be good
00:26.25ckknightif things crash, I'll revert back to what we have now
00:26.34Yssariltell me what to look for
00:26.55ckknighta navigation bar is added
00:27.01ckknightand the way actions are handled is changed
00:27.18ckknightthe project page and profile sections will look different
00:27.52[SW]Dodgewww.wowace.com down? ^^
00:28.29Yssarilworks fine for me
00:29.14[SW]Dodgehm after f5 it works
00:29.17[SW]Dodgeweird :>
00:29.31ckknightbtw, I've updated curseforge.com now
00:30.30Yssarilthe new navbar has duplicate links form the orange one
00:30.40ckknightthe create a project thing?
00:30.45ckknightjust saw that now
00:30.50Yssarilyea and home and curseforege.com
00:31.42sztanpetcant abandon a project tho
00:31.54ckknightwell, the bottom ones change as you visit different pages
00:31.57ckknightsztanpet: hrm?
00:32.00sztanpetWe’re sorry, you’ve attempted to access a page that you’re not allowed to access.
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00:32.34ckknightwhat project?
00:32.46sztanpethttp://wow.curseforge.com/projects/project-2322/ a very ugly and old one
00:32.46Yssarilckknight: very bottom nav bar it says WowAce Home :P
00:33.25ckknightyou're right.
00:33.29Repo[WAR] 10confessnow: 03coredump * r7 / (2 files in 2 directories):
00:33.31Repo* The loading error should be fixed now. No more need to reload after loading the game.
00:33.32Repo* Added Marauder test for Gut Ripper, need a rank 30 Marauder to test.
00:33.38Repo* Addon is less spammy now, it will spit messages if it work, and will fail silently.
00:33.56Yssarilagain bottom nav thing Contact us and Bugs & Suggestions point to the same location (may be intednded though)
00:34.12sztanpetwas curseforge always this fast?
00:34.14ckknightyea, intended
00:34.19ckknightsztanpet: I've been changing stuff
00:34.38sztanpetit really shows
00:34.56ckknightI think it could be much faster.
00:35.07ckknightwe're going to swap out the Django ORM with SQLAlchemy
00:35.19ckknightthat'll fix a lot of the speed issues we have
00:35.44sztanpeta few gets fail with 404 btw, looking at firebug output
00:35.53ckknight?
00:36.05ckknightk, tell me what they are
00:36.08Yssarilckknight: whan you click Knowledge base it treats it like a project
00:36.08sztanpethttp://static.curseforge.net/curseforge/images/icons.png
00:36.15sztanpethttp://static.curseforge.net/curseforge/images/avatar.png
00:36.19ckknightYssaril: yea, technically it's the curseforge project's pages
00:36.20Yssarilat least for the new navbar
00:36.20sztanpethttp://static.curseforge.net/curseforge/images/hr-popular.gif
00:36.31ckknightokay
00:36.47ckknightYssaril: yea, I have an idea on how I'm going to approach that
00:37.08Repo[WAR] 10confessnow: 03coredump 04r1.5 stable * r8 : * Tagging as r1.5 stable
00:37.41Yssarilckknight: btw can you fix the wowace navbar when you have really long project names?
00:37.47Yssarilhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets/
00:37.55ckknighturg
00:37.58ckknightI can do something.
00:38.16Yssarilno rush i memorized the position of the links :P
00:38.41sztanpeti dont see anythin
00:38.56sztanpetoh, after ctrl-f5 i do
00:39.19Yssarilckknight: is there no simple projects link like we have on wowace?
00:39.35ckknightfront page, Recently updated projects
00:39.42ckknightthough, imo, that should be just renamed to Projects
00:40.13Yssarilahh i see
00:40.41ckknightor should I put it at the top?
00:41.08Stanzillaimo "Projects" should sort by name and "Recently Updated Projects" by date
00:41.20Yssarilhmm yea keep both but do that :)
00:41.39sztanpetand a more sane short description field that makes sense :D
00:41.51ckknightsztanpet: ?
00:42.37sztanpetfor example i get the table of contents on this domdom thing instead of what the addon actually is
00:44.50ckknightYssaril: for AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets, I have my truncator set at 30 characters, but that's only 29...
00:44.52ckknighthrm
00:45.05ckknightsztanpet: ah, yea, we plan to fix that
00:45.33Yssarilckknight: can you rename the shortname and jsut remove some extra - in there?
00:46.02Yssarilshortname i mean url or whatever youwanna call it
00:46.18ckknightwell, the short name isn't what's showing up in the top-left
00:46.20ckknightthat's the project's name
00:46.25Yssarilactually that wouldn;t fix it nm
00:46.36Yssarilyea just thought of that
00:48.34sztanpet1 less char and its fixed for me
00:49.12Repo[WAR] 10charview: 03Flisher * r54 / (5 files in 1 directory): -Labeled as 1.30 for Bank Development
00:49.14Repo-Fixed Renown tracking with Mythic patch 1.02
00:49.17Repo-BankWindows now show properly, not sure about the data gathering capability.
00:50.17Repo[WoW] 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 0530b94 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Miscellaneous fixes and optimizations
00:51.48Yssarilckknight: project sort by author doesn't seam to work right
00:52.09ckknightyea, it goes by the author id
00:52.14ckknightit's kinda bullshit
00:52.21ckknightwe can't fix it until we change ORMs
00:52.57Yssarilic
00:52.58ckknighthey sztanpet, I fixed the summary stuff
00:53.11ckknightno more table of contents when rendering a summary
00:54.01sztanpet<3
00:54.14Yssarilnice
00:54.25ckknightnot sure why Kaelten dragged his feet on that
00:54.29ckknightit was a pretty easy fix
00:54.33ckknightoh well, fixed now
00:55.12sztanpetstill cant abandon my project tho
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00:55.25ckknightsztanpet: I fixed that
00:55.26ckknightI think
00:55.32ckknightgimmeh link
00:55.38sztanpethttp://wow.curseforge.com/projects/project-2322/abandon/
00:56.02ckknighthrm
00:56.02ckknightokay
00:56.04ckknightthat's odd
00:56.05ckknighthang on
00:56.47sztanpetoh my good old project, the addons name is fuckoff but the old curse ppl didnt like that so i changed the zip-s name :D
00:57.03Repo[WAR] 10theseeker: 03beeblebrox42 * r18 / (3 files in 1 directory):
00:57.05RepoFixes an issue with the ROF not letting clickys get under it.
00:57.06RepoChanged default fade from 30s to 10s.
00:57.12RepoNow seeker wont trigger something twice in a row before another thing is "found".
00:58.31sztanpetis there a way btw to link my openid to my account?
01:00.11ckknightall fixed, sztanpet
01:00.24sztanpetthanks
01:00.27ckknightyour project was already abandoned, the actions were showing weird and the abandoned message wasn't coming up
01:00.59sztanpetyea i cant really see a difference after i abandoned it just now
01:01.12ckknightThis project is abandoned
01:01.13ckknighton the right
01:02.08ckknightwrt openid, a previous developer worked on that, spent a good two weeks getting it to work, then after a year turns out that only 12 people used openid, so when an auth service update broke it, nobody bothered to fix it
01:02.31sztanpetmeheh
01:02.51sztanpetyea i abandoned it again, now it shows the box
01:03.05ckknightyou probably just needed to refresh the page...
01:03.06ckknight:-P
01:03.09ckknightoh well
01:03.12sztanpeti did actually
01:03.15ckknighteverything's good now
01:03.20sztanpetaye
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01:11.05sztanpetdid you try js and css aggregation to speed up response times?
01:11.38ckknightwe will
01:11.43ckknightI've been wanting that for a while
01:11.52ckknightit's not been gotten around to
01:12.08pastamanceropenid is going nowhere
01:12.32sztanpetyou might be right, but i do use it anywhere i can
01:12.47pastamanceryou and the 10 other people who use it
01:13.40sztanpetyour overdramatizing it a bit, but yea
01:13.46pastamancerI'd honestly rather not have identifiable data linkable across every single site I visit
01:14.10sztanpetmeh, i do like the simplicity of it, not having to register
01:14.17pastamanceryeah, I am being a bit dramatic, but the uptake of openid is really low
01:17.28ZorbaBetaone problem is that virtually every group that *could* make openid more popular has a vested interest in locking you into their service
01:17.44pastamanceralso true
01:18.05pastamancercertainly livejournal makes openid users second-class citizens
01:18.42Repo[WoW] 10wim-3: 03Pazza * r88 / (4 files in 2 directories): - Modified how emoticons & urls are processed.
01:18.42Repo- History no longer lags the game when loading a large convo.
01:18.59pastamancerboo, kaelten isn't on
01:19.12pastamancerI was going to tell him to come to LISA this year
01:20.07pastamancerhttp://www.usenix.org/event/lisa08/
01:21.50ZorbaBetaI don't suppose anyone knows where I can find a rough breakdown of estimated WoW subscriptions by locale/language/country/any of those?
01:22.18pastamancerI'm not sure of anywhere that has those stats
01:22.43pastamanceryou might get close with the wow census site
01:23.00pastamancerhttp://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php
01:23.10ZorbaBetahmm, worth a try. thanks
01:23.38sztanpetcant i subscribe to projects without getting emails?
01:27.13Yssarilrss feed?
01:27.29sztanpetooh, thats a good idea
01:27.37sztanpetwhy didnt i think of that
01:27.57Yssarilnot sure what kinda rss feeds they give us though
01:28.13Repo[WAR] 10nstancehighlighter: 03Nemes 041.3-release * r14 : Stability and performance improvements
01:28.18sztanpetrss-2
01:29.26sztanpetthe changelog its a bit git-ish but i can live with that
01:31.27Repo[WAR] 10theseeker: 03beeblebrox42 * r19 TheSeeker.lua:
01:31.27RepoAdded option to make it so the Seeker will not match after the first time, then you have to seek for a new term or type /seek on to seek for the old one again.
01:31.32RepoUpdated the beta version number.
01:32.26Repo[WAR] 10theseeker: 03beeblebrox42 04v0.6Beta * r20 :
01:32.27RepoFixes an issue with the ROF not letting clickys get under it.
01:32.29RepoAdded option to make it so the Seeker will not match after the first time, then you have to seek for a new term or type /seek on to seek for the old one again.
01:32.38RepoChanged default fade from 30s to 10s.
01:32.44RepoNow seeker wont trigger something twice in a row before another thing is "found".
01:33.05Repo[WAR] 10charview: 03Flisher * r55 / (2 files in 1 directory): -Fixed Bank information gathering
01:33.32ckknightsztanpet: wanna rewrite the log creator?
01:33.34ckknight:-P
01:33.45sztanpetwhats it written in
01:33.51ckknightpython
01:34.03ckknightbut really it's just a call to git log
01:34.05sztanpetdoesnt sound so bad
01:34.23ckknightinstead of having it be plain text, I want it to be wiki markup
01:34.27ckknightwhich is then parsed on the website
01:34.41ckknighthttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge-packager/
01:35.34Yssarilckknight: speaking of wiki parsing any word about embeded images in wikis?
01:35.47ckknightthat's on the whiteboard of things to do
01:35.53ckknightwe want to make the pages thing a lot better
01:36.02ckknightbut that comes after the SQLAlchemy transition
01:36.16Yssarilwhat are you guys currently running
01:36.21ckknightDjango
01:36.29ckknightwe're moving away from that
01:36.40sztanpetoh btw, couldnt there be a latest release and latest alpha/beta on the project details page so i can spare a click?
01:36.51sztanpeta link to the file i mean
01:36.53ckknightsztanpet: actions -> download
01:37.40sztanpetstill more clicks then needed :(
01:37.43Yssarilckknight: whats the advantage of SQLAlchemy over Django?
01:37.55ckknightmore specifically Django's ORM
01:38.21ckknightDjango's ORM has a lot of inherent issues, SQLAlchemy affords us a lot more control and power, and has a much better caching system
01:38.38ckknightit's not as integrated, but then again, we've swapped out a lot of Django's components already
01:39.03ckknightso the integration isn't an issue
01:39.04ZorbaBetadammit you moved everything around
01:39.05ZorbaBeta>(
01:39.06ZorbaBeta>:(
01:39.11ckknightZorbaBeta: sorry, guy
01:39.15ZorbaBetaI'm so irritated that my eyeballs have vanished! :P
01:39.24ZorbaBetaah, I'll get used to it
01:39.30ckknightk, if you find any issues, tell me
01:47.25Repo[WoW] 10cdt3: 03wolftankk * r23 CooldownTimers3.lua: CooldownTimers3:
01:47.26Repo-fix updatetime.
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01:49.20ckknightokay, finally, the css and js references will append the proper r=num
01:49.39ckknightbefore they were all r=1, so when one updated, you'd've needed a force refresh
01:49.43ckknightbad karma there
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02:05.24Repo[WoW] 10decursive: 03Archarodim 042.3_Beta_2 * 1d91c00 /: [new tag] Added optional dependencies to .pkgmeta
02:13.58sztanpetbtw wont a simple git log --pretty=format:"%n%n%s%b%n%cn (%ci)" work ? :D
02:18.01ckknightyou won't lose info that way?
02:18.07ckknightyea, you do
02:18.11ckknightquite a bit of useful data
02:19.01sztanpetyou could put some delimiting char sequences between the data so as to parse it more easily and output only whats needed
02:19.13sztanpetthe rss changelogs dont really need anything more
02:23.51Repo[WAR] 10lib_surveyor: 03Nevir27 * r2 / (13 files in 3 directories): Initial Commit
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02:28.24sztanpetyou could even have a seperate tab for the "full changelog" or something for those who need the extra info
02:29.13Repo[WAR] 10surveyor: 03Nevir27 * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): Mostly-blank commit
02:33.59ZhinjioGood evening, worthies.
02:34.08sztanpethttp://milw0rm.com/exploits/6666
02:34.12sztanpetoh great
02:34.39Archarodimhmm it seems that the packager broke on Decursive again...
02:35.06Archarodimit packaged the same revision twice and did not package 2.3 Beta 2
02:36.13Archarodimnote that the tag 2.3_Beta_1 no longer exists on the repository, I deleted it :/ (I think it didn't loke that)
02:36.58Archarodims/loke/like/
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03:00.10Foggerfyi: CC just auto-updated Phanxchat & now I get an error on login.
03:00.38sztanpetkick the author
03:02.08sztanpetgnight
03:06.00Foggernn
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03:19.06ckknightalright, js and css are now aggregated and minified
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04:01.18Kody-omgomgomg
04:01.22Kody-i can't wait until tomorrow
04:01.25Kody-diablo 3 playable ;x
04:20.47ckknighthehe, Kody-
04:27.58pastamancerckknight: I'd love to hear more about your experiences with django.  I'm considering offering it as a supported development enviroment at work in parallel with coldfusion and jboss
04:28.12ckknightwe're moving away from django
04:28.31pastamanceris it more than just the ORM?
04:28.33ckknightdue to maintenance and performance issues
04:28.43ckknightwe swapped out the template system a while ago
04:28.53ckknightand we royally hacked up their routing system
04:29.10ckknightoutside of that, we have forms
04:29.13ckknightdjango's forms are nice
04:29.15ckknight:-P
04:29.21ckknightthat's its saving grace
04:29.30ckknightgranted, we're likely going to move to WTForms, which is just as good
04:29.47ckknightdjango's not threadsafe, which is a big issue for us
04:29.53ckknightwhat we're moving toward is
04:30.21pastamancerthreadsafe isn't too big a deal since I'm running apache in prefork mode for php
04:30.42pastamancerI really thin j2ee is the way to go, but I want to offer a lighter-weight option for my developers
04:34.06ckknighthrm
04:34.18ckknightruby on rails has a lot of hype ;-)
04:34.31pastamancerconsidering our most active site has 1000 users, would you recomment django?
04:34.40pastamancerruby's runtime leaves a lot to be desired
04:34.47pastamanceralso, rails doesn't fit into our development model
04:35.02pastamancerdevelopers do NOT have shell access to the web servers
04:36.24ckknightokay
04:36.38ckknightyea, django would be good for a 1000-user site
04:36.41ckknightall things considered
04:36.57ckknightbut I also see issues with not having shell access
04:37.05pastamancerwe'll probably just stick with coldfusion which is just jsp on steroids nowadays despite the constant expectations of its demise by the web 2.0 crowd
04:37.14ckknighthehe
04:37.38pastamancerseriously, CF has been "dying" for the past 7-8 years now
04:37.55pastamancerand adobe keeps coming out with new releases
04:38.50pastamancerwe have a very strong distinction between web developers and system administrators
04:39.11pastamancerI'd only trust 3 of our web developers with shell access
04:39.25pastamancerthe rest have no idea, but they're just working on brochureware sites in dreamweaver
04:39.33ckknighthehe
04:39.36ckknightyea, I get that
04:40.27pastamancerI'm in the middle of writing a hella web frontend to subversion for those brochureware people
04:40.58pastamancerit'll handle branching, tagging, and promotion from dev to test to production
04:41.48pastamancerall but one of the sites are still using VSS instead of svn
04:42.18pastamancerand the one using svn is my guinea pig with the two developers who actually know what they're doing
04:42.26pastamancerso they get to test new functionality first
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06:46.02orionshockArrowmaster: is the repo bot still down?
06:46.19nevcairielit is
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07:05.32Repo[WAR] 10textureviewer: 03DarthVon * r12 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Made window not sticky
07:05.33Repo- Now works properly with ui scale
07:05.35Repo- Bug fixes for offsets when tracking
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07:08.43Repo- New color/alpha for tracking guidelines, I didn't like the orange.
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07:12.27RepoVersion 2.0.
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07:30.54cladhairewhy does Repo not have flood protection yet =/
07:32.28nevcairielit does, but it sucks =P
07:33.21ckknightthe bot has per-channel flood protection, but not per-server
07:33.41ckknightand I couldn't figure out how to enable it, and I haven't gotten around to it since then
07:40.08Elkanockknight, mind checking the code for the "my activity" entries of the format "x commented on y's file, z"? not only that it's missleading to read y's file if it was only a comment by y to afile you reply to, also in that case the z link is broken
07:40.42ckknightgot a link?
07:41.12Elkanohttp://my.curse.com/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=2439
07:41.37ckknightsadly, I don't work on curse.com
07:41.40ckknightonly curseforge/wowace stuff
07:41.44Elkanoah, ok
07:42.37Elkanobzw, wrt wowace/cf, could we get a note to what triggered an updated project timestamp, eg commit/comment/ticket?
07:43.08ckknightwe're actually gonna change the updated timestamp to be the last file's post date
07:43.13ckknightso no ninja updates
07:43.15Elkanosucks to find your projects updated without an initial clue why it happend
07:43.19Elkanoah, ok
07:44.28Elkanomaybe mangage two timestamps: last (file) update and last change (commit/commet/ticket) where the latter is mainly for the author
07:51.55Aiianeckknight: ping
07:52.20ckknightAiiane: pong
07:52.36Aiianethe size of the markup editing box for Edit Page is borked (at least in FF3)
07:53.58ckknightyea, that should be larger, shouldn't it?
07:54.21Aiianenods
07:54.43Aiianeright now it looks like it's just the "default" textbox size
07:57.47sag_ich_nichthttp://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/dodgy-digits-behind-the-war-on-piracy.ars makes me laught (at you)
07:58.15ckknightokay, Aiiane
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08:31.50ckknightwell, I should really head home and to bed
08:32.07ckknighthooray for 16-hour days
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09:44.21Adirelle|workArrowmaster: ping ?
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10:17.44Adirelle|workI wish we could use the reporting/project approval system to reply to requests
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12:21.12Adirelle|worknevcairiel: is there some policy about approving or not "test projects" (like Mock atm) ?
12:21.58nevcairielset it to changes required and ask him wtf that is about
12:22.35Adirelle|workand BTW, someone created a wow project that has the same name of a war project, I'm not sure it won't conflict or that something bad happens if we approve it
12:22.53nevcairielnah thats fine
12:24.26FtH|DaemonaThis may be a stupid question, but why dont i have a search box when going to http://www.curseforge.com on IE7 ?
12:24.57nevcairielbecause the whole bar vanishes in IE
12:25.00nevcairielckk broke the layout
12:25.18FtH|Daemona. /golfclap
12:26.44Adirelle|workWTB report reply feature
12:32.44Adirelle|workhrm, project leaders should be able to delete their project files, both on wowace and curse.com, shouldn't they ?
12:39.16orionshockis repo working? or is it broken?
12:39.50nevcairielprobably broken
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12:48.19slampHi
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13:35.24ckknightokay, repo is now pinged every 5 seconds. if the connection times out in 20, it restarts the bot automatically
13:35.38ckknightcheap hack for now while I track down the real issue
13:37.28[SW]Dodge:D
13:41.17[SW]Dodge~seen netcurse
13:41.18purlnetcurse <n=chatzill@c-67-169-39-244.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #waruidev, 9h 5m 58s ago, saying: 'huu, should not be like that ;)'.
13:41.45[SW]Dodge:/
13:47.17Stanzillackknight: there is no rss feed for branches?
13:47.29ckknightrss feed for what?
13:47.31ckknightfiles?
13:47.34Stanzillayes
13:47.41ckknightsure there is
13:48.00Stanzillawhere is the one for http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/repositories/wrath/ ?
13:50.04nevcairielhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/repositories/wrath/files.rss
13:50.10nevcairielbe creative with your links :P
13:50.52Stanzillahm still weird, on the normal repo page it shows that rss feed icon in my urlbar and on the wrath repo it doesn't
13:51.34Repo[WoW] 10luggage: 03Nimbal * r42 / (2 files in 1 directory):
13:51.35Repo* Fixed loading locales before AceLocale when using embedded libraries
13:51.35Repo* Fixed bag placement when using UIScale (again)
13:51.39Stanzilla=> link to rss is not in the source code
13:51.47Stanzilla=> bug :P
13:51.53nevcairielckknight: you know what, that "no files on main project page" thing sucks, and now CF has it too .. more clicks just to see the latest version :/
13:52.26ckknightnevcairiel: yea, I'm planning on adding a list of the 5 latest files
13:52.37ckknightit won't be as prominent as before, but visible
13:52.50Stanzillackknight: do you agree that this is a bug?
13:52.57Stanzilla(rss not linked in the source code)
13:52.58ckknightyea, it's a bug, Stanzilla
13:53.01Stanzillakk
13:53.29nevcairielCF also has those small rss icons all over the place
13:53.41nevcairielwhich wowace doesnt :(
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14:01.21ckknightokay, time to head to work
14:01.34sag_ich_nichthttp://img.4chan.org/r9k/src/1223647111631.jpg amirite
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14:05.58Repo[WoW] 10libbaggage-1: 03Nevcairiel * r20 .pkgmeta: Fix .pkgmeta
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15:04.01Repo[WAR] 10surveyor: 03Nevir27 04v0.1.1 * r6 : Initial developer/user preview of Surveyor, take two
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15:13.07charonmorning
15:13.35nevcairielhey charon
15:18.01sag_ich_nichthttp://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Golden_Girl_vs_Palin.html ahahahaahahahahahah I AM LAUGHTING TEARS
15:28.30Repo[WAR] 10lib_surveyor: 03Nevir27 * r5 LibSurveyor.lua: We're going to need zoneId after all...
15:28.56ckknightbtw, nevcairiel, I added a list of files to the right side of projects
15:28.57Repo[WAR] 10lib_surveyor: 03Nevir27 04v0.1.1 * r6 : Adding zoneId to the pin data
15:29.13nevcairielckknight: on wowace too?
15:29.18ckknightyea
15:29.24ckknight(should it not be on wowace?)
15:29.31nevcairielit should
15:29.34ckknightokay
15:29.37ckknightthen we're all good
15:29.39nevcairieljust asking
15:29.41ckknightI don't want to diverge templates
15:29.47ckknightconfuses things.
15:30.59charonthe newest poll is missing options
15:31.13charonit should offer "Mine" and "My SO's"
15:31.26ckknightI can only put 10 options
15:31.28ckknight:-P
15:31.34charonfix it :p
15:31.38ckknightbah.
15:31.45ckknightmaybe another day
15:31.56charonnah, i just fail at good humour.
15:32.26ckknightokay, project listing now show the updated date as the date of the last file rather than the last setting change, so no more ninja updates
15:32.56ckknightoh, and hovering over dates now has title text :-)
15:34.05sztanpetwhy have polls anyway
15:35.09Repo[www] 10repobot: 03ckknight * r5 plugins/ (2 files in 2 directories): change project.change_date to project.last_file_date
15:35.10Repofix a possible issue with a while loop never breaking.
15:35.12sztanpetcant there be a direct download button and maybe a seperate link for the changelog in the recent files list?
15:35.16ckknightsztanpet: it's a talking piece, it has no purpose
15:35.22ckknightno, sztanpet
15:35.34sztanpetaw
15:35.38ckknightas a policy, we want to minimize direct download links
15:35.49charonhmm the new menu in gray (below the orange main nav bar) is broken on both konqy and fx3 for me
15:36.01ckknightcharon: how's it broken?
15:36.06ckknightit works fine in Firefox 3 for me
15:36.06sztanpetyou could still have a kind of trigger before download kind of thing with links
15:36.12charonon fx3, the submen under 'Image' doesn't pop up
15:36.14charon*submenu
15:36.31ckknightcharon: firstly, are you logged in and do you have permissions?
15:36.31charoni'm looking at http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/?sort=-id
15:36.37charonoh.
15:36.37ckknightcharon: secondly, getting any javascript errors?
15:36.46charonthat might be the fx3 then... logging in
15:36.54charonon konqy the menu entries wobbled a bit, i.e. changed width
15:37.02charonbut if it's just konqy, i'll just have to put up with it i guess
15:37.24nevcairielwhat renderer does konqy use anyway?
15:37.27ckknightwe don't officially support Konqueror, though we do support Safari/Chrome
15:37.33ckknightnevcairiel: KHTML
15:37.37ckknightit's what WebKit is based off of
15:37.42nevcairielyeah i know
15:37.48ckknightI believe they're moving to WebKit in either KDE 4.1 or 4.2
15:37.51charoni'm still on kde 3.5.x anyway, so that's not really under dev any more
15:38.32charonyea the fx3 problem was just that i wasn't logged in. sorry for the false alarm. it even has very pretty fadeins
15:38.51ckknighthehe
15:39.04ckknightgood times, then
15:39.22ckknightin Konqueror, basically, the javascript isn't loading properly so it's falling back to css, which can look funny, but still works
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15:41.04ckknight@project lib_surveyor
15:41.05Repockknight: http://war.curseforge.com/projects/lib_surveyor/. LibSurveyor. Game: WAR. Leader: Nevir27. Updated: 11 minutes ago. Tickets: 1/1
15:41.12charonkonqy4 has some flicker issues with the fadein but otherwise shows it the same way as fx3
15:41.29ckknightalright
15:41.36ckknightcharon: I'm calling that success, then
15:41.37ckknight:-P
15:42.05charonyeah i think that's fair to say
15:42.12ckknightit looks fine in Safari
15:42.15ckknightshrugs
15:42.22charonthough for the record, konqy3 had acid2 compliance long before firefox did ;)
15:42.38ckknightI use Opera.
15:42.49ckknighttherefore, suck it
15:42.54ckknightthrusts his hips
15:43.35nevcairielOpera, the browser that couldnt even render a table correctly for a loooong time
15:43.42nevcairielsurprising they fixed that actually =P
15:43.46ckknightlol
15:44.05charonthen again Tables Are Not Layout Elements(tm) :p
15:44.52nevcairieltruth, however it was the easiest solution that worked in the majority of all browsers. div layers used to break in IE during that time =P
16:08.51ckknighthey
16:09.04ckknightI added a ticket display thing
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16:09.17ckknighthttp://www.curseforge.com/home/tickets/
16:10.00jay\been some site changes today?
16:10.16ckknightyesterday mostly
16:10.28ckknightjay\: any thoughts?
16:11.11jay\yeah, i just uploaded a file, then clicked submit and i just got redirected back to the file upload page... no idea if it's uploaded or not, and the main project page isn't showing a "Needs approval" like it did yesterday, so i've not idea if the file went or not :)
16:11.26ckknightwhich project?
16:11.28jay\so maybe a "Thanks for your upload!" or something, i guess
16:11.36jay\Mech
16:11.40ckknightgimmeh link
16:11.55jay\http://war.curseforge.com/projects/mech/
16:13.03Aiickknight: With the new layout, it's really, *really* not intuitive for basic users how to post a ticket from the Tickets page
16:13.19Aiithere needs to be a plainly visible Post a Ticket button again
16:13.27ckknightokay.
16:13.43ckknightTickets -> Post a ticket is kind of too much to ask
16:13.51ckknight(being serious)
16:14.16jay\i can seem to post tickets for my own addon also, feeling i shouldn't be able to do that :)
16:14.24ckknightjay\: you can
16:14.26Aiijay\: why not?
16:14.27ckknightjay\: what file were you trying to upload?
16:14.36jay\the file name?
16:14.38ckknightjay\: yea, I file tickets for my own projects
16:14.40ckknightjay\: yea
16:14.50jay\aii: i can't see the need report a problem or enhancement to myself
16:14.57Aiijay\: tracking purposes
16:15.06Aiiand disclosure
16:15.11jay\ckknight: mech173b.zip
16:15.13ckknightwell I do, jay\, so it's not leaving
16:15.17ckknightjay\: okay, it didn't update
16:15.18ckknighterr
16:15.19ckknightupload
16:15.20Aiijay\: didn't get uploaded
16:15.26Aiidid you forget to fill in a field?
16:15.34Aiisometimes the 'missing info' messages are a bit subtle
16:15.50Repo[WAR] 10qmt: 03Celestian * r16 QuickMailTool.lua:
16:15.51Reponew hook should cause buttons to hide when the mailbox is closed.
16:15.57jay\possibly, but all the fields went blank instead of keeping their values so i just guessed i got redirected back to a fresh page
16:16.00jay\i'll retry
16:17.18Aiiand ckknight, I agree - best would be a 'Add a Bug Report/Feature Request' button on the project page
16:17.40ckknightAii: any good thoughts on placement?
16:17.48Aiitop of the right column?
16:18.31ckknighthrm
16:18.33ckknightI think I can do this
16:19.18jay\ah, seems i missed the required field comment on the changelog... i was going to start skipping the changelogs as they aren't using new line breaks for some reason when i copy/paste from notepad and retyping them all is a nightmare
16:19.26jay\http://war.curseforge.com/projects/mech/files/5-mech-1-73-beta/
16:19.30jay\i.e. that is what it comes out as
16:24.41Aiijay\: change the 'markup type' on change logs to Plain Text
16:24.53Aiiif it's not already that
16:25.18Aii'Curse Wiki' is wikicode, which by default treats single linebreaks as spaces
16:26.07ckknightAii: btw, check any project details now
16:26.24ckknighthttp://war.curseforge.com/projects/mech/
16:26.42ckknightdoes that seem good or should it be somewhere else or look different at all?
16:26.54jay\aha, thanks Aii
16:27.37Aiickknight: can it be bigger and button-like?
16:27.43ckknighthrm...
16:27.47ckknightI'll see what I can do
16:27.54Aiilike, BIG ORANGE BUTTON-like?
16:29.24ckknightI'm not a css person :-(
16:29.37ckknightnot sure how I'd make that happen properly
16:32.30Aiickknight: I'd settle for it being about 2x its current font size, then, and orange
16:33.12Aiifor the time being, at least :P
16:34.43Aiioh, also, slight bug with the dropdowns... if you mouse over one menu header, then down to an item, and then up to another menu header fairly quickly, it sometimes gets stuck with the first menu still open even as it opens the 2nd
16:35.05ckknightyea, it happens
16:35.07ckknight...blame Kaelten
16:35.08ckknight:-P
16:35.19Aiiblame kaeltada?
16:35.43Aiioh, one other thing
16:35.46Aiihttp://war.curseforge.com/home/
16:36.11nevcairielckknight: what can cause a repo to screw up its permissions? I usually have to change the project owner back and forth then it fixes itself :P
16:36.15Aiiis it just me, or is the gray text for the "content" of each recent subscription update nearly impossible to read against the background
16:36.25nevcairieleven i couldnt access it in the time with my super user power :P
16:36.34ckknightnevcairiel: hrm, svn or git?
16:36.38nevcairielsvn
16:36.40ckknightoh
16:36.42ckknightwait 1 minute
16:36.46ckknightafter changing
16:37.00ckknightwell, up to 1 minute
16:37.32nevcairielhuh?
16:37.38nevcairielinitially, i didnt do anything to the project
16:37.41nevcairielit just didnt work
16:37.54nevcairieli change owner to someone else, then back to the original one
16:37.57nevcairieland it works :)
16:38.24nevcairielforgot which project it was last time =P
16:39.09nevcairielone of the libs probably that i checked out yesterday
16:40.36ckknightAii: check now
16:40.37nevcairielah yeah uiQuery was it
16:40.40nevcairielcouldnt even check it out
16:41.01ckknightnevcairiel: that's odd
16:41.27nevcairielI changed shortname before, but i'm pretty sure i waited a minute
16:41.34ckknighthrm.
16:41.47nevcairielor did i
16:42.02nevcairielthe activity log thinks i didnt
16:42.04nevcairieloh well
16:42.10nevcairieli'll tell you when i encounter it again :P
16:43.44ckknightAii: ping
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16:49.33Aiickknight: pong
16:49.44ckknightAii: take a look at http://www.curseforge.test:8000/projects/curseforge/
16:50.31sbaddress not found :p
16:50.33Lothaerhey ckk whats new?
16:50.39ckknighterr
16:50.45ckknightchange test:8000 to com
16:50.53sbconnection interrupted
16:50.54ckknightLothaer: I did a major site revamp yesterday
16:51.07Lothaerlol keeping ya busy are they :D
16:51.15ckknightyea
16:51.46Lothaerill assume it was on CF
16:51.48Aiickknight: better, a slightly brighter orange was what I was thinking of, but that works
16:51.57ckknightAii: do you use firefox?
16:52.00Aiiyes
16:52.03ckknightdo you have firebug
16:52.04ckknight?
16:52.09Aiinot installed on this machine
16:52.10Aiiwhy
16:52.22ckknightyou should install it, tweak it to how it should look, then send me the resultant css
16:52.23ckknight:-P
16:52.28nevcairiellol
16:52.41nevcairielits big orange button'ish already =P
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16:58.50Aiickknight: I use Stylish on my home system for css tweaks :P
16:59.03ckknight:-P
16:59.39Lothaeri need 1 more mount grrrr
17:00.03[SW]DodgeLothaer: lol :D
17:00.41Lothaerim at 49im trying to get my Stormpike Battle Charge but Alliance are playing like a bunch of retards as usual
17:02.05[SW]Dodgemhm, we have a 85% win rate :)
17:02.13[SW]Dodge(alliance eu^^)
17:02.55Lothaeryewah but EU are totally nuts about wow
17:03.11Lothaerno offense
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17:08.32Lothaerhey is it true that in 3.0 the combat log can track the ammount of damage done to a shield?
17:08.39Lothaerie PW:S
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17:18.19nevcairielLothaer: i think so, yeah
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17:27.31Repo[WoW] 10mailing-list: 03piranther 0730000beta * r6 MailingList.lua: - fix command line arguments and usage message
17:27.32Repo- organize functions within main source file
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17:29.52Lothaerhmm i wonder if any of you code savy people would like to take a look at ShieldLeft
17:30.33Lothaerhttp://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=6421
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17:30.53Lothaerit does work fine as it is, but i think with the new feature in 3.0 it could be better
17:31.42sbi like that other combat log function
17:31.45sb"miss amount"
17:32.04sbso you can calculate how much more dmg you would do when hitcapped :p
17:34.32Repo[WoW] 10libbaggage-1: 03Nimbal * r21 LibBaggage-1.0.lua:
17:34.33Repo* Fixed a bug when defragmenting the inventory and combining two stacks that together exceed the max stack count
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17:44.47Repo[WoW] 10luggage: 03Nimbal * r44 / (5 files in 2 directories):
17:44.47Repo* Added option to suppress Blizzard bags opening everywhere they please
17:44.48Repo* Fixed bug where empty slots weren't properly updated
17:59.34Lothaerwhats the easiest way of finding out what libs a mod needs? im redoing my ui step by step and i need to know what libs i need turned on for BT4 to work
18:00.41nevcairiellook at embeds.xml =P
18:00.44nevcairielor OptDep
18:01.13Lothaer<!-- Removed by files.wowace.com for no-ext zip. --></Ui>
18:01.22nevcairielwrong version, then
18:02.09Lothaer?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
18:02.39Stanzillaneeds moar !!! imo!
18:02.57Lothaerlol
18:03.12nevcairielget the latest from curse.com
18:03.15nevcairielit'll have a proper list
18:07.10Lothaerhow stable is the curseclient?
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18:17.05Lothaercan i set some mods on the curseclient to ignore?
18:18.08ArrowmasterClassshould be able to
18:19.26Lothaeri cant find the option
18:20.35Throngyrifght click - toggle auto updated?
18:20.40Lothaeri want these addons ignored because ive either a) made some personal modifications to them or b) the client is looking at the wrong version
18:21.03Lothaeror c) id rather handle the downloads of these specific mods myself
18:21.45HjalteWhen installing libbaggage-1.0 through the Curse Client, the folder was named "libbaggage-1" and the toc "LibBaggage-1.0.toc" - Seems like something went wrong with the folder name? Wow didn't recognise it as installed at least.
18:22.02Stanzillanev fixed that imo
18:22.16nevcairielyeah i did
18:22.38Lothaeralso does the client install w/o externals?
18:22.39ArrowmasterClassHjalte: blame whoever made that lib for naming it libbaggage-1 on curse
18:27.21Lothaerbump
18:28.12Throngydunno for sure but i don't see a setting for it...
18:28.55Lothaerso if im updating my Ace mods using the CurseClient im better off doing it w/ externals
18:29.10Lothaeras WAU does nothing but crash these days
18:32.00Throngywhat are the green arrows by some addons? (like the refresh button in firefox)
18:32.22Throngyopens instructions :P
18:33.45Throngy"Addons that are out of date will be marked with a visual marker" - i suppose it must be that
18:34.25Aiicorrect
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18:42.02Repo[WoW] 10drag-queen: 03piranther 0730000beta * r14 / (4 files in 1 directory): - add support for frames in LoD addons
18:48.07Lothaer~seen bigzero
18:48.08purlbigzero <n=a@adsl-76-203-12-29.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 235d 21h 8m 25s ago, saying: 'Elsia, maybe pets just got buffed a lot in 2.4 /shrug'.
18:48.23Lothaerso he hasnt been around lately
19:05.15[SW]Dodge~seen netcurse
19:05.17purlnetcurse <n=chatzill@c-67-169-39-244.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #waruidev, 14h 29m 57s ago, saying: 'huu, should not be like that ;)'.
19:05.22[SW]Dodge._.
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19:09.59Repo[WoW] 10mailing-list: 03piranther 0730000beta * r7 / (2 files in 2 directories): - fix messages and set up for localizations
19:10.55ArrowmasterClassis that somebody using a clone for a branch?
19:11.00ArrowmasterClasscant see colors on this client
19:11.05nevcairielbranch
19:11.35ArrowmasterClassoh same branch name on different projects
19:11.36Repo[WAR] 10cowboy-focus: 03Cowboy 04v0.3 * r10 : Tagging as v0.3.
19:11.48ArrowmasterClassthats why the revision is lower
19:12.51Dashkalhttp://www.wowinsider.com/2008/10/10/blizzcon-2008-ui-panel-liveblog/ has the beginning stuff
19:14.43Dashkalmischa
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20:30.13charonreflects totally along the medium boundary
20:38.56ckknightcharon: meh, I think it's dead now
20:39.16charonshrugs
20:39.34charonit would also work better if i didn't have to look up the english terms first
20:39.48nevcairielhehe
20:40.02nevcairieli couldnt think of something smart to respond
20:53.08charonhttp://www.curseforge.com/create-report/project-1-curseforge/
20:53.12charoni'm tempted to say the least
20:54.08charonthough with all our well-informed mods, i suspect it wouldn't be much fun ;)
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20:59.12charonis there a way to assign some of my CF tickets to myself?
21:00.11charonseeing e.g. 440 from late july still flagged "New" makes me sad
21:00.46nevcairiel@ticket curseforge 440
21:00.46Reponevcairiel: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/440-make-plaintext-emails-prettier/. 440 - Make plaintext emails prettier. Reported by: anmoch. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 74 days ago. Component: Subscriptions. Status: New. Priority: Medium. Votes: 0. Comments: 1
21:02.27ckknightwell, the git log thing is a different situation
21:02.33ckknightalso, Kaelten's revamping that
21:02.39ckknighthe's gonna move away from markdown or something
21:02.45charonah, i see
21:02.48ckknightand rework the syndication system as a whole
21:03.04charoni just figured i might as well have it assigned to myself as a way to say: i want to look into this now that the code's open
21:03.14charonbut if kaelten's going to change this anyway, that's obviously better
21:10.33Aiickknight: is it a known issue with Curse.com that the "forgot password" email doesn't work?
21:10.46AiiI've heard of at least 2-3 cases now where people never got an email
21:11.11ckknightcurse.com or curseforge?
21:15.57[SW]Dodgenetcurse: ping ? :/
21:16.22charonnight folks
21:16.31charonand remember to come up with a new greeting ritual till tomorrow
21:26.13Lothaerhttp://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/WoWScrnShot_101108_075130.jpg
21:26.16Lothaermy latest ui setup
21:35.07Aiickknight: curse.com, but it's the same login no?
21:35.45ckknightyea, but the mechanisms are different
21:36.57Aiiic
21:37.07Aiinot sure which specifically the latest person was trying
21:45.17FtH|Daemonaout of curiosity, why does the curse client need administrator priviliges and why the heck are you suggesting to permanently change to the admin account if using vista? *tinfoilhat
21:47.14Repo[WAR] 10charview: 03Flisher * r56 CharactersViewer.lua: -Improved Update of frame when switching  character
21:47.48DashkalFinally, photos of the hot chick that is ghostcrawler: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.wowinsider.com/media/2008/10/ghostcrawler-425.jpg
21:51.06ckknightoh yea, baby
21:57.51Repo[WoW] 10gcraft: 03C0DA 07master * 11c70b8 / (7 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits]
21:57.52Repo11c70b8: Apparently silly curseforge doesn't like AceEvent...
21:57.52Repo1349e16: Implemented subcategories and online crafters
21:57.54Repoa0ad32a: Implemented Subcategories and Sort dropdown.
21:58.48[SW]DodgeDashkal: secksey :D
22:02.49Repo[WAR] 10bimailer: 03Sniperumm * r17 / (3 files in 2 directories): Now supports patch 1.02 time changes.
22:03.11Repo[WAR] 10bimailer: 03Sniperumm 040.3.2 * r18 : Tagging as 0.3.2.
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22:06.27Archarodim|sleepis the packager working?
22:06.52nevcairielseems to, yea
22:06.53nevcairielwhy?
22:06.56ckknightbecause come WoW 3.0, addons that
22:06.59ckknighterr
22:07.03ckknighthttp://www.curseforge.com/packager/
22:07.22Repo[WoW] 10gcraft: 03C0DA 07master * a7a2335 GCraft.toc: [+1 commit] Fixed a problem with embedded Wowace libraries
22:07.35Archarodim|sleepDecursive is not packaged anymore
22:07.57Archarodim|sleepa revision got packaged twice
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22:08.28Archarodim|sleepthe last tag I made was not packaged
22:08.41nevcairielhuh funny
22:08.46nevcairielit really packed one rev twice
22:09.25Archarodim|sleepI think it didn't like when I deleted the tag 2.3_Beta_1 from the repository
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22:30.58Repo[WAR] 10miniworldmap: 03silverq * r2 / (4 files in 2 directories): Initial import
22:31.41Repo[WAR] 10miniworldmap: 03silverq 041.0 * r3 : Tagging as 1.0
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22:34.25Repo[WAR] 10guardme: 03leodido 04v0.3 * r12 : Tagging as v0.3.
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23:36.12Arrowmasterhmm 500 internal server error =(
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23:56.12Repo[WAR] 10textureviewer: 03DarthVon * r15 TextureViewer.xml:
23:56.13Repo- _Really_ make it not sticky.  Apparently I have to tell every single child to behave like its parent... bad design anyone?
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23:58.56Repo[WoW] 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.3_Beta_2-1-g702d8a1 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
23:58.56Repo702d8a1: Update todo.txt and whatsnew.txt and Ace forum thread ID in .toc
23:58.57Repoe33bb5e: Added optional dependencies to .pkgmeta
23:59.39Repo[WAR] 10textureviewer: 03DarthVon 040.7-beta * r16 : Tag for beta

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