IRC log for #curseforge on 20090224

00:16.50Repo[WoW] 10trades-bar: 03egingell * r78 TradesBar.lua: -- Fixed modified right-click.
00:17.35Repo[WoW] 10trades-bar: 03egingell 04v200902231717 * r79 : Tagging as v200902231717
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00:33.34Dashkal*blinks* anybody else see slashdot showing a 500 style error page on a 200 (OK) response?
00:51.04Dashkalthere we go, fixed
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01:29.44Repo[WoW] New project: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/sp-scorpia/. StockPile by Scorpia. Scorpia (Manager/Author). Approved by Aiiane.
01:34.27Repo[WAR] 10moth: 03Astika * r46 / (9 files in 1 directory): Revert to revision 42
01:34.32RepoFixed an issue in which labels were cut off due to undefined max label size
01:34.36RepoAdd Choppa + Slayer to GuidanceCounselor color table
01:34.41RepoMoth will no longer haunt other UI elements when cursor is not over a world object
01:34.59Repo[WAR] 10moth: 03Astika 041.091 * r47 : Tagging as 1.091
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02:11.06MyrroddinGreetings, everybody
02:11.36Myrroddinhmmm lots of luminaries here, i see
02:12.52kmcguireOk, embedding lua in C is so easy. They did a excellent job.
02:13.09kmcguiregives the lua developers a double thumbs up!
02:14.48Myrroddini have a question, if i may, about curseforge & the curse client: i just created a new addon earlier today, and successfully put it on curseforge. when i check my CC, it shows under my installed addons, but not under find an addon. what am i missing?
02:15.15Myrroddinif it matters, it is not an ace addon
03:16.09Repo[WAR] 10pure: 03wikki * r143 Source (4 files in 1 directory): Minor changes to effect refresh calls.
03:16.13RepoFixed a few issues w/ effects not reseting their alpha properly.
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04:00.51Repo[WAR] 10dufftimer: 03Thurwell * r103 / (7 files in 1 directory): Added option to set a minimum text scale.
04:02.07Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r69 / (3 files in 1 directory):
04:02.10RepoAdded debugging info to figure out why some items appear blank in the queue.
04:02.13RepoWrote the code to get a potential craft count for a skill.
04:10.41Repo[WAR] 10aura: 03wikki 042.3.3-beta * r61 : Tagging as 2.3.3-beta
04:19.49Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r70 CauldronMainUI.lua: Made the UI display allocate frames all the time.
04:21.29Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r71 CauldronUtil.lua: Commented out the potential count code temporarily.
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04:35.21RepoUeberfluessige Dateien entfernt:
04:35.26RepoEvents/debug.lua, Xml/healbot2-kopie.xml
04:35.31RepoHabe den Debugeer mit in HB2 integriert. Die Ausgaben koennen nun mit /hb2 db on/off ein und ausgeschaltet werden.
04:35.35RepoXml/healbot2.xml angepasst.
04:37.16Repo[WAR] 10hopper: 03wikki 040.5.0-beta * r15 : Tagging as 0.5.0-beta
04:40.07Repo[WAR] 10nerfed-buttons: 03Scaythe 07NerfedButtonsRerolled * r227 / (3 files in 2 directories): Fixed command line default target setting
04:40.12RepoAdded edit command
04:40.16RepoAdded some documentation
05:07.42Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r72 / (2 files in 1 directory): Alterations to initialize queue frames properly.
05:26.08Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r73 CauldronMainUI.lua: Changed the frame naming convention for queue frames.
05:42.27Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r74 / (2 files in 1 directory): Reverted frame creation for queue display.
05:42.30RepoMade string values in queue item template blank by default.
05:50.43Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r75 CauldronMainUI.lua: More debugging.
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05:56.41Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r76 CauldronMainUI.lua: Debugging.
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06:01.34Repo[RoM] 10heal-bot-2: 03sukram0815 * r12 / (5 files in 3 directories): Den Ordnler des Addons an Reversionen.zip angepasst.
06:01.38RepoDie Xml/healbot2.xml ruft bei abgeschaltetem Cleint keine Funktionen des Clients auf.
06:01.43Repo/hb2 befehle angepasst.
06:05.09Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r77 CauldronMainUI.lua: Debugging.
06:07.27Repo[WoW] 10ouf_quaiche: 03Quaiche 07v2.0-dev * r16 layout.lua: Final commit before merging v2.0 back intro trunk
06:08.44Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r78 CauldronMainUI.lua: Debugging.
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06:14.13Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r79 CauldronMainUI.lua: Debugging.
06:29.32Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r80 CauldronUtil.lua: Fixed a logic error in potential count function.
06:30.01Repo[WAR] 10pure: 03wikki * r144 Source/PureEffect.lua: Minor fix to duration display.
06:33.18Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r81 CauldronMainUI.lua: Display fixes for potential count.
06:40.38Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r82 CauldronUtil.lua: Fixes to potential craft calculation.
06:44.47Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r83 CauldronUtil.lua:
06:44.50RepoMade the potential craft count only consider "key" reagents.
06:46.40Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r84 CauldronMainUI.lua: Removed the tilde.
06:51.05Repo[WAR] 10pure: 03wikki * r145 Source/PureEffectTracker.lua:
06:51.09RepoFixed an issue where the rows greater than 1 of effects werent anchored properly.
06:59.14Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r85 CauldronMain.lua:
06:59.17RepoMade the queue all button consider potential craft amounts as well as normal amounts.  The user
06:59.20Repocan also force it to use the potential amount by holding the shift key down when clicking the
06:59.23Repobutton.
07:01.22Repo[WoW] 10cauldron: 03pschifferer * r86 CauldronMain.lua:
07:01.25RepoReverted default logging level for alpha builds back to INFO.
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12:48.34Repo[WoW] 10goingprice_allakhazam: 03Neikos * r491 / (2 files in 2 directories): Updating to version 3.0.1235479630
12:48.40Repo[WoW] 10goingprice_allakhazam: 03Neikos 043.0.1235479630 * r492 : Tagging version 3.0.1235479630
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13:44.38Repo[RoM] 10heal-bot-2: 03gastroneunzehn * r14 / (23 files in 7 directories): Konvertiere zu UTF-8 ohne BOM
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14:12.56Repo[RoM] 10heal-bot-2: 03gastroneunzehn * r16 Init/init.lua: HP anzeige von 100% zu 100/100 (100%) umgestellt.
14:14.50Repo[RoM] 10heal-bot-2: 03gastroneunzehn * r17 Init/init.lua: falsche Unit angabe.
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14:31.47Repo[RoM] New project: http://rom.curseforge.com/projects/bagcleanup/. BagCleanup. wearmie (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten.
14:31.53Repo[RoM] New project: http://rom.curseforge.com/projects/wrfollow/. wrFollow. paschy (Manager/Author), Samtrion (Author). Approved by Kaelten.
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16:23.52sag_ich_nichtwell isn't that a nice fucking change in regards to taint issues
16:24.00sag_ich_nichtfinally no more retarded tainting of the quest tracking frame
16:24.07sag_ich_nichthello by the way
16:24.15sag_ich_nichtZeksie fix your pally powers comms they are fucked
16:24.20sag_ich_nicht*pally power
16:26.53Stanzillawhat change?
16:27.57AckisWorksag_ich_nicht: you made some tickets about the dns or some shit with CF/wowace being fucked up... was that ever fixed?
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16:45.37Repo[WAR] New project: http://war.curseforge.com/projects/libaccount/. LibAccount. Narketia (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
16:52.16sag_ich_nichtAckisWork: uhm, god that is ass old
16:52.19sag_ich_nichtlet me check
16:53.36Stanzillaping AckisWork
16:53.58sag_ich_nichtAckisWork: not fixed here
16:55.27sag_ich_nichtlet me check the tickets themself
16:56.16sag_ich_nichtnot fixed AckisWork
16:56.41sag_ich_nichtthe MX record IS a problem, it's contrary to DNS specifications etc.
16:56.56sag_ich_nichtthe lack of glue is a performance issue, making lookup of curse.com/curseforge.com slower
16:57.27sag_ich_nichtoh and another thing
16:57.29sag_ich_nichtthat's new
16:57.45sag_ich_nichtns0.dnsmadeeasy.com that nameserver has a security problem
16:57.51sag_ich_nichtI can do recursive queries
16:58.06sag_ich_nichtwhich means I can do whatever with it
16:59.22Pneumatustheres several tickets up about the fail dns now i think
16:59.55sag_ich_nichtactually just two
17:00.00sag_ich_nichthttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/?search=dns
17:00.05sag_ich_nichtboth by me
17:00.37Pneumatushttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/828-badly-configured-mail-server/
17:00.42sag_ich_nichtthere's a ticket about the fail that is the mail se... yes.
17:06.38sag_ich_nichthaha
17:06.39sag_ich_nichtalso
17:07.05sag_ich_nichtthe MX record for wowace.com lacks a PTR
17:07.32sag_ich_nicht(I'd tell you that in #wowace Ackis but I'm still banned from there)
17:07.58sag_ich_nichtoh and
17:08.01sag_ich_nicht"#I was unable to connect to the SMTP port on 69.57.184.214. I only waited 5 seconds, so it may be that your mail server is slow, or may not be responding. Skipping further tests for 69.57.184.214"
17:08.11sag_ich_nichtslow mailserver is slooow
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17:10.16sag_ich_nichtalso the TTL on the NS is way too low
17:10.20sag_ich_nicht180 ms is a bit insane
17:10.38nevcairielthe wowace mailserver is controlled by google mail, blame them for not setting a PTR
17:10.47sag_ich_nichtuhm, no
17:10.52sag_ich_nichtthat's not their fault actually
17:11.10sag_ich_nichtthat's none of their business, that's all on the side of CF's DNS
17:11.26nevcairielHow can i set a PTR for an IP i dont even own?
17:11.33sag_ich_nichtand considering curseforge.com doesn't even HAVE an MX record, that's a different matter all together
17:11.43nevcairielmeh wowace does =P
17:12.12sag_ich_nichtyou can actually put the PTR into the DNS server still
17:12.23nevcairielYeah but noone will ever request it from there
17:12.24sag_ich_nichtwant me to do it for you? :P give me the bind file and 10 seconds :P
17:12.54sag_ich_nichtactually the smtp server involved in the communication will
17:13.01sag_ich_nichtof course as we can see in the ticket it doesn't even go that far
17:13.15nevcairielIts true that the IP doesnt have a PTR
17:13.19sag_ich_nichtI mean look at that: Received: from cfweb1 ([69.57.184.215])
17:13.23sag_ich_nichtno FQDN
17:13.56nevcairielbut PTRs need to be set on the provider that owns the IP range, not on your DNS, unless they have some spiffy forwarding of the entry set
17:14.08nevcairiel(which i doubt)
17:14.43nevcairielbut yeah, that lack of FQDN is weird
17:15.00sag_ich_nichtthe whole MX record for wowace.com is weird
17:15.08sag_ich_nichtthat entry there is weird:
17:15.09sag_ich_nicht5   alt1.aspmx.l.google.com.wowace.com   69.57.184.214
17:15.38nevcairielI was wondering wtf is up with that
17:16.07nevcairielAll the other ones are real googlemail entrys
17:16.10nevcairielthat one seems weird
17:16.23sag_ich_nichtit's wrong
17:16.25nevcairiellike someone forgot the dot at the end and it appended its own domain name, heh
17:16.25sag_ich_nichtI just checked
17:16.29sag_ich_nichtyes
17:16.32sag_ich_nichtthis is in fact what happened
17:16.46sag_ich_nichtthere is no mailserver on that, and it just defaults to the wowace.com ip
17:17.05nevcairielshouldn't it prefer the other priorites though?
17:17.20sag_ich_nichtyes but a check will still make it bitch about the PTR
17:17.58nevcairielindeed, that should be set
17:17.58sag_ich_nichtalso the SPF record is fucked as hell, as already said in the ticket
17:18.14nevcairielthere is a SPF record?
17:18.35nevcairielmy query didnt get it :(
17:18.44sag_ich_nichtthere is one for curse.com
17:18.49nevcairielah
17:18.49sag_ich_nichtnot for curseforge.com
17:18.51sag_ich_nichtor wowace.com
17:19.14sag_ich_nichtI told Kaelten and ckk and netcurse about this months ago
17:19.25sag_ich_nichtbut they were like LALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU
17:19.54nevcairielhm the spf record doesnt look that bad
17:19.57sag_ich_nichtso I was like "enjoy your marketing failure by not reaching 50% of your target audience, lol"
17:21.02sag_ich_nichtit points to ass old mail servers that aren't in use since fuckever
17:21.20sag_ich_nichtnone of them point to gmail
17:21.32nevcairielwell the include does :)
17:21.39nevcairieli didnt check the ip's to compare
17:21.41nevcairielbut shrug
17:21.41sag_ich_nichtoh wait
17:21.42sag_ich_nichtyeah
17:21.47sag_ich_nichtbut the IPs are fail
17:21.53sag_ich_nichtatlantis.smtpz.com, ip66-104-7-34.z7-104-66.customer.algx.net, smtp.curse.com, (NXDOMAIN).
17:23.03Vangualheh, someone forgot the . at the end of that google apps mx record
17:23.21sag_ich_nichtyes, now go vote for my tickets, 470 and 471
17:23.31nevcairielBut, they also added a A record for that broken domain
17:23.36nevcairielsomething is funny there
17:23.51sag_ich_nichtyes but they forgot the A records for the rest of that shit.
17:24.48sag_ich_nichtalso
17:24.49sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel
17:24.52sag_ich_nichtdifferent topic
17:25.04sag_ich_nicht[17:23] <sag_ich_nicht> well isn't that a nice fucking change in regards to taint issues
17:25.04sag_ich_nicht[17:23] <sag_ich_nicht> finally no more retarded tainting of the quest tracking frame
17:25.04sag_ich_nicht[17:24] <sag_ich_nicht> hello by the way
17:25.10sag_ich_nicht~lart Kaelten
17:25.11purlsteals Kaelten's mojo
17:25.16sag_ich_nichtyeah that's about right
17:25.19sag_ich_nichtpurl, botsnack
17:25.19purlaw, gee, sag_ich_nicht
17:25.40Kaeltenhrm?
17:25.42nevcairielthe quest tracking frame got tainted?
17:26.02StanzillaI always thought only QuestLogFrame did
17:26.17Kaeltensag_ich_nicht: if someone can help me figure out what the SPF _shoudl_ be I'd be happy to fix stuff
17:26.55sag_ich_nichtKaelten: sure, go ahead and fix the glue for all domains and the curseforge.com and wowace.com MX records before we go to the SPF tho
17:27.15KaeltenI don't have access to glue records
17:27.21Kaeltenthose are handled by the dns provider
17:27.29Kaeltenafaik
17:27.59sag_ich_nichtcan you add A records.
17:28.21nevcairielalso, call your dns provider and let them fix the damn MX record =P
17:28.53sag_ich_nichthe can fix the mx record I guess
17:29.19sag_ich_nichtKaelten does curse.com SEND emails? as in, smtp traffic or php send stuff or shit like that?
17:29.42KaeltenI can add A records
17:30.10sag_ich_nichtKaelten: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/471-curseforge-com-and-curse-com-dns-servers-lacking-glue/
17:30.27sag_ich_nichtdo what I wrote there and the glue should fix itself
17:30.32sag_ich_nichtI'm writing the SPF right now
17:31.21KaeltenI can do curseforge and wowace
17:31.27Kaeltennot going to go mess with curse's
17:32.20KaeltenI can't add dns records for dnsmadeeasy
17:32.35sag_ich_nicht:|
17:32.44sag_ich_nichtcall dnsmadeeasy and bitch at them about the glue
17:33.22sag_ich_nichthttp://tinyurl.com/dkuhue there
17:33.25sag_ich_nichtthat should be your spf record
17:33.26Kaeltenlol
17:33.28sag_ich_nichtI MIGHT BE WRONG
17:33.34sag_ich_nicht(that's the one for curse.com)
17:33.38KaeltenI get a 404
17:33.40Kaelten:P
17:33.43nevcairielyeah url is broken
17:34.06sag_ich_nichtugh, hold on
17:34.08Kaeltenall I can say is that I hate email
17:34.16nevcairiellol
17:34.43sag_ich_nichthttp://tinyurl.com/b26evs
17:34.45sag_ich_nichtthat one should work.
17:34.58sag_ich_nichtactually
17:34.59sag_ich_nichthold on
17:35.03sag_ich_nichtthat's bullshit
17:35.18sag_ich_nichtdon't use that, it includes the old useless ones
17:35.57KaeltenI'm also going to send off a mail to make sure all the reverse dns is setup right
17:38.13sag_ich_nichtKaelten
17:38.18sag_ich_nichtwhat's smtp.curse.com
17:38.35sag_ich_nichtis that used or just some legacy bullshit
17:38.45Pneumatusi still cant believe you dont use your own dns servers :o
17:38.48sag_ich_nichtI'll kill it from the new SPF if it's just legacy
17:38.52sag_ich_nichtPneumatus: agreeing
17:39.17Kaeltenthe dns setup wasn't my call
17:39.19nevcairielHosting a dns requires at least two servers in independant locations
17:39.35KaeltenI think the setup we use is bullshit, not saying that running our own zone is a good idea either
17:39.36nevcairielwell unless you don#t care that DNS goes down when your page goes down =P
17:39.55sag_ich_nichtKaelten, smtp.curse.com, what it do
17:40.04Kaeltennot sure
17:40.07Kaeltenit may be something for curse
17:40.30sag_ich_nichtI'll just leave it in the SPF, gee
17:40.46sag_ich_nichtmaking it more strict tho
17:40.52sag_ich_nichtrestrict to /32 mask
17:41.00sag_ich_nichtlie
17:41.08sag_ich_nichtactually puts it in the A field
17:42.24sag_ich_nichtKaelten: http://tinyurl.com/atdt56 use that for curse.com, I am not liable for any failure this may or may not cause, and am doing the stuff for curseforge and wowace now
17:42.48Kaeltenwith reverse dns you can have multiple domains all point at one ip right?
17:43.05Pneumatusdomains pointing to IPs = A records
17:43.14PneumatusPTR records make an IP resolve to a single domain
17:43.14sag_ich_nichtKaelten: use CNAME for that for the love of gosd
17:43.16sag_ich_nicht*god
17:43.40KaeltenI do for subdomains
17:43.43Kaeltenwell
17:43.45Kaeltensometimes
17:43.54Kaeltenmostly I use As
17:43.56Kaelten:D
17:44.01sag_ich_nichtheadsigh
17:44.23sag_ich_nichtlook, I gave you the SPF for curse.com, now fix the MX for curseforge.com and wowace.com so I can make SPFs for those
17:44.39Kaeltenwhat's wrong with the mx?
17:45.08sag_ich_nichtwell
17:45.15sag_ich_nichtcurseforge.com doesn't have one
17:45.15sag_ich_nichtand
17:45.16Kaeltenit doesn't have one
17:45.19Kaeltenyeah
17:45.21sag_ich_nichtyes
17:45.22sag_ich_nichtbut that means
17:45.26KaeltenI don't receive mail there
17:45.30sag_ich_nichtan SMTP server HAS to run on the A record
17:45.37sag_ich_nichtthere is none there
17:45.44Kaeltenyeah
17:45.44sag_ich_nichtalso
17:45.54sag_ich_nichtfrom the wowace.com MX:
17:45.55sag_ich_nicht5   alt1.aspmx.l.google.com.wowace.com   69.57.184.214
17:45.58sag_ich_nichtthat is not right.
17:46.11Kaeltenagain I don't receive email on curseforge
17:46.18Kaeltenthat's what google said to use
17:46.33sag_ich_nichtno it's not, you typo'd
17:46.40Kaeltenoh?
17:47.20nevcairielYou forgot a dot a the end
17:47.28nevcairielits supposed to be alt1.aspmx.l.google.com.
17:47.41nevcairielbut you forgot the dot, in DNS land that means "relative to second-level-domain"
17:48.00nevcairielso it appended .wowace.com.
17:48.01sag_ich_nichtalso
17:48.26*** join/#curseforge Taladris (i=Taladris@unaffiliated/elite3vil)
17:48.38sag_ich_nichtKaelten: without a mail server running on the A record for curseforge.com, all email claiming to come from @curseforge.com is invalid
17:48.44sag_ich_nicht(A record since there is no MX record)
17:48.47sag_ich_nichte.g. subscriptions@curseforge.com
17:48.59AckisWorkKaelten: is there a way to move pages in the kb?
17:50.03Kaeltenwell I was thinking about setting up gmail accounts @ curseforge
17:51.26sag_ich_nichtas long as there is no SMTP server, the whole god damn domain/DNS setup is not following RFCs and everything claiming to come from curseforge.com is just considered spam by most servers
17:51.39sag_ich_nichtand I can't write an SPF record for it of course
17:51.48*** join/#curseforge Carancu (n=carancu@c83-255-68-18.bredband.comhem.se)
17:51.52sag_ich_nichtnow fix the MX record for wowace.com and I'll give you an SPF for that
17:53.03Kaeltenfixed wowace
17:53.20sag_ich_nichtpropagated
17:53.20sag_ich_nichtgood
17:54.16sag_ich_nichthold on
17:56.08sag_ich_nichtKaelten: http://tinyurl.com/cywdzg that should work for wowace.com
17:56.11sag_ich_nichtagain, no liability
17:57.14sag_ich_nichtalso if you contact dnsmadeeasy about the GLUE Kaelten? tell them their ns0.dnsmadeeasy.com allows recursive queries, which is fucking retarded
17:57.23Kaeltenheh
17:57.38Pneumatusworst case with a bad SPF is that mails wont deliver that already werent delivering due to no SPF tho :P
17:58.56Arrowmasterumm no
17:59.16Arrowmasteri dont think theres a single server that will reject mails just because the domain doesnt have an SPF
17:59.36sag_ich_nichtuhm, yes, tons.
17:59.54Arrowmastermost domains dont have SPF
18:00.08sag_ich_nichtmost domains are pieces of shit that deserve to get a content delivery failure
18:00.12sag_ich_nicht>:E
18:01.43Kaeltenright now I'm tweaking dns settings curseforget
18:01.57sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel you help him
18:02.00sag_ich_nichtI am falling asleep
18:02.44sag_ich_nichtgah, sometimes I thinnk it'd help if I was less filled with anger and more filled with hate, but it doesn't work and wouldn't help
18:02.48sag_ich_nichtfall asleep on keyboard
18:03.28Kaeltenwell shit I'm guessing my catch all dns record prevents cnames from working....
18:03.50sag_ich_nichtwakeup for a second
18:03.53sag_ich_nichtwell no shit sherlock
18:03.57sag_ich_nichtfall into coma
18:04.03AckisWorklol
18:04.22Kaelten:P
18:06.10RepoNew knowledge base page: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/convert-svn-to-git/ by Ackis
18:06.23*** join/#curseforge RAWRjar (n=Kofalt@x-134-84-94-237.reshalls.umn.edu)
18:06.52KaeltenAckisWork: I expect on on conversion to hg too!
18:06.53Kaelten:P
18:06.59AckisWorkheh
18:07.09AckisWorkuhh Kaelten
18:07.11AckisWorkI broke something
18:07.19AckisWorkand by something I mean the kb's
18:07.19Kaeltengg?
18:07.20ArrowmasterKaelten: easy, svn-to-git followed by git fast-export
18:07.30KaeltenArrowmaster: lol
18:07.44RAWRjaranybody manage a SVN server?
18:07.46KaeltenAckisWork: what did you break?
18:07.50KaeltenRAWRjar: ?
18:08.08AckisWorkKaelten: http://kb.curseforge.com/ == 500 error probably because I nested that kb article
18:08.11KaeltenAckisWork: what did you do?
18:08.18Kaeltennested?
18:08.25RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/convert-svn-to-git/ by Ackis
18:08.35RAWRjarI run a Windows SVN service, and was wondering if I could run two repositories side-byside. EG, have UserA log in and see one set of folders, and userB have a completely different set of folders show up
18:08.41AckisWorkI created it as: repositories/foo
18:08.44AckisWorklike it said I could
18:08.54AckisWorkI was going to clean up the kb articles into categories
18:08.57AckisWorkbut that's bugged
18:09.00Kaeltenis there anything at /repositories/
18:09.01Kaelten?
18:09.24AckisWorkno, but the instructions said to do that if I want it nested
18:09.29Kaeltenhrm
18:09.38Kaeltentry it again and put a stub page at /repositories
18:10.00Kaeltenside note I want safari4 but I can't get it to download
18:10.10ArrowmasterAckisWork: http://github.com/jcoglan/svn2git/tree/master
18:10.13AckisWorkstub page? ie: blank
18:10.27Kaeltenyeah
18:10.55Kaeltenor minimial content
18:11.02RepoNew knowledge base page: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/ by Ackis
18:11.03Kaeltentesting to see where the issue is
18:11.33RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/convert-svn-to-git/ by Ackis
18:11.36nevcairielArrowmaster: charon provided some simple git command calls to convert a repo, no funky ruby tool needed :)
18:11.53nevcairielKaelten: what did you do to the DNS? kb.wowace.com doesnt resolve =(
18:12.23Arrowmasterhe used a wildcard entry instead of actually creating the cnames
18:12.28Kaeltentry now
18:12.36RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/convert-svn-to-git/ by Ackis
18:12.53AckisWorkKaelten: works
18:12.57RAWRjardoesn't resolve for me either
18:13.04RAWRjarFirefox can't find the server at kb.wowace.com. :(
18:13.23KaeltenRAWRjar: I just fixed the dns entry
18:13.27AckisWorkI'm going to nest a lot of them if that's ok Kaelten? the kb looked like it was getting clogged
18:13.38RAWRjarjust refreshed page & no dice
18:14.25RepoNew knowledge base page: http://kb.wowace.com/admin/ by Ackis
18:15.00RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/admin/how-to-approve-projects-and-files/ by ckknight
18:15.09KaeltenRAWRjar: it may take a few mins to get to you
18:15.13RAWRjark
18:15.24RAWRjarKaelten: any idea about the SVN idea?
18:15.32Kaeltensorry I missed the question
18:15.48RAWRjarI run a Windows SVN service, and was wondering if I could run two repositories side-byside. EG, have UserA log in and see one set of folders, and userB have a completely different set of folders show up
18:16.08Arrowmasterunlikely
18:16.12RAWRjarThe instructions I seem to find on the internet seem to show how to have all folders in one repository, and restrict access to different folders
18:16.14RAWRjark
18:16.23RAWRjarcould I just run two SVN services on different ports?
18:16.31Kaeltenthat's possible
18:16.37RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/why-use-revision-control/ by Ackis
18:16.39Kaeltenor just give them different repos
18:16.42RAWRjarthat'll probably be easier
18:16.43RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/repository-keyword-substitutions/ by ckknight
18:16.48RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/repository-faq/ by Ackis
18:16.53RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/how-to-use-tortoise-svn-over-ssh-in-312/ by Ackis
18:17.21AckisWorkheh a bug with the updating
18:17.23RAWRjarI have a group-collaborative repo that has a post-commit email-everyone hook
18:17.31AckisWorkchanging the name of the project doesn't mark it as updated
18:17.32RAWRjarand I don't want that firing when I use SV for my private projects
18:17.40RAWRjar*SVN
18:19.11RepoNew knowledge base page: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/ by Ackis
18:19.13*** join/#curseforge Hjalte (n=chatzill@cpe.ge-0-2-0-835.arcnqu2.customer.tele.dk)
18:19.55RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/pkgmeta-file/ by ckknight
18:20.54RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/docmeta-file/ by Ackis
18:21.05RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/abandoned-project-policy/ by ckknight
18:21.16RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/changing-descriptions/ by ckknight
18:21.25RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/cloning/ by ckknight
18:22.10RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/getting-started-with-project-management/ by Zyuu
18:22.14RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/localizing-your-project/ by Ackis
18:22.18RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/project-acceptance-policy/ by ckknight
18:22.23RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/what-to-do-after-creating-a-project/ by ckknight
18:23.42RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/curse-forge-faq/ by Zyuu
18:27.10nevcairielZyuu? i thought someone "moved" him :p
18:29.19AckisWorkhe still created the kb
18:29.29AckisWorkand has the last update
18:29.37AckisWorkie: all of those should have by Ackis but they don't
18:30.41Repo[RoM] New project: http://rom.curseforge.com/projects/adef/. Auto Defender. aznfire987 (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
18:31.11Kaeltennevcairiel: created some spf records on wowace
18:32.10nevcairielthats a rather generic spf, heh
18:32.58Kaeltenheh
18:33.13Kaeltentoo generic?
18:33.24Kaeltenalso how would I get my Host Name HELO / EHLO
18:33.25Kaelten?
18:33.28RepoNew announcement: http://www.curseforge.com/announcements/knowledge-base-articles-reorganized/
18:34.05nevcairielwell ?all means "i dont know, just allow the host" :D
18:34.27nevcairielbut you fixed the MX, thats good
18:34.29KaeltenI thought that it'd get flagged a neutral rather than invalid
18:34.39Kaeltenand honeslt yI'm not sure that I've got it right
18:34.47nevcairielthe syntax is correct
18:34.50nevcairieland it might work
18:34.59nevcairielyou allow the A record to send it, and the MX records
18:35.01KaeltenI gave the forums their own spf
18:35.03nevcairielwhich should be fine
18:35.04*** join/#curseforge charon (n=thomas@unaffiliated/charon)
18:35.18Kaeltensince it's on a different ip
18:35.28nevcairielWhats their sender address?
18:35.29Kaeltennow forums.wowace.com doesn't have any mx directories
18:35.35Kaeltenhrm
18:35.37Kaeltennot sure....
18:35.48nevcairielif they send from @wowace.com, just add the forum IP to the SPF
18:35.54nevcairielip4:123.123.123.123
18:36.19Kaeltenproblem is they haven't been sending at all
18:36.20Kaeltenheh
18:36.33nevcairielyeah that is weird
18:36.46nevcairielThey used to, though
18:37.41Pneumatusive got a forum email around here somewhere...
18:37.42Kaeltenhow can I see what email vbullshit sends emails from?
18:37.54nevcairielsomewhere in teh config, sec
18:38.51nevcairieljust browse to the config, vBulletin-Settings, All Settings, scroll down to the E-Mail of the webmaster
18:39.26Kaeltenit's the email of the webmaster?
18:39.29Kaeltenlesigh
18:39.44nevcairielI believe thats what it uses for sending
18:40.13Kaeltenso I should change that to no-reply@forums.wowace.com or something?
18:40.25Kaeltenwhich is lame
18:40.30nevcairielif Pneumatus has a mail around, he could check
18:40.39Pneumatusfail, wrong channel
18:40.40PneumatusFrom: "WowAce Forums" <bmclemore@curse.com>
18:40.46Pneumatusposted it in #wowace :P
18:40.51nevcairieli would recommend using @wowace.com and add the IP of the forum box to the SPF
18:41.08Kaeltengrr
18:42.36Kaeltenand that server has like 4 ips
18:42.38Pneumatussource of the mail is 69.57.184.218
18:42.41Kaeltenso I need to add them all....
18:42.52nevcairielKaelten: are they in the same range?
18:42.54PneumatusReceived: from wowace.com (unknown [69.57.184.218])
18:43.03nevcairielyou can use subnet declarations
18:43.11Kaeltenno they're not
18:43.26Kaeltenunless I can tell exim4 to only use a single ip
18:43.39nevcairielI tried that once, wasnt really possible afaik
18:44.21Kaeltencute
18:44.24Arrowmasteri thought you guys used ubuntu servers?
18:44.49KaeltenArrowmaster: we do
18:44.53Arrowmasterubuntu comes with postfix as the default mail server
18:45.03nevcairielpostfix is le sigh
18:45.07Arrowmasterchange it for some reason?
18:45.07nevcairielimho
18:45.32nevcairielalthough i only worry about that when really hosting a mail server
18:45.37nevcairielnot just as a delivery daemon
18:45.54KaeltenI could never get postfix to work right
18:45.58Kaeltenso I started using the lightweight exim
18:46.39nevcairielpostfix config can be complex
18:46.48KaeltenArrowmaster: Fubar has a bad relationship setup btw
18:47.08nevcairielyou mean its fubar?
18:47.19nevcairielsorry :)
18:47.22Kaeltenwell it's installing librock even when running embedded in the client
18:47.23Arrowmasterwhy because i marked librock-1.0 as an optdep?
18:47.28Arrowmasteri did that on purpose
18:47.40nevcairiellibrock is broken or something
18:47.41Kaeltenyou marked it as an optdep?
18:47.52nevcairielit doesnt load properly
18:47.55Kaeltenfun
18:48.03Kaeltenyeah, someone reported it as a bug in the cleint
18:48.10Kaeltenbecause it was installing it as it's marked as required
18:48.15Arrowmasterlibrock is broken and completely blows up when it tries to upgrade itself
18:48.20Kaeltennice
18:48.24Kaeltennevcairiel: "v=spf1 a mx ip4:69.57.184.218/32 ip4:65.98.12.195/32 ip4:65.98.12.208/32 ip4:69.72.129.42/32 ?all"
18:48.44nevcairielyou don't need the /32
18:48.48nevcairielits rather redundant
18:48.49nevcairielhehe
18:48.56nevcairielsingle ip works
18:49.29nevcairielbut otherwise it looks fine
18:49.39pastamancerpfft, what's so hard about postfix?
18:50.03Kaeltennevcairiel using that tool he linked earlier
18:50.08nevcairieli see
18:50.10nevcairieloh well
18:50.12pastamancerI used to use exim, and while it had a pretty straight-forward config (for a mail server) you could get into a lot of trouble with it
18:54.41Kaeltenok, so I have new spf stuff
18:54.46Kaeltenand new other stuff
18:55.12KaeltenI wonder if forums emails will start working now
18:55.22AckisWorkhope so
18:55.42AckisWorkKaelten: send me a PM on them to see :P
18:56.44Kaeltensent
18:57.21AckisWorknothing in my e-mail yet
18:58.45Kaeltennot squirming, just pissed
18:59.02AckisWorklol
18:59.39Kaeltennevcairiel pastamancer: any idea how I check and see what my computers HELO / EHLO is?
19:00.07pastamancerKaelten: telnet servername 25
19:00.08nevcairielwireshark? :)
19:00.23pastamanceroh, the other way around
19:00.29pastamanceryeah, what nev said
19:00.51Kaeltenwireshark doesn't want to run on mac for me
19:00.58pastamancermac has tcpdump
19:00.59pastamancerjust use that
19:00.59Repo[RoM] 10heal-bot-2: 03sukram0815 * r20 / (8 files in 5 directories): MiniMapButton eingefuegt.
19:01.03RepoDer Healbot wird abgeschaltet, wenn Spieler kein Priester ist.
19:01.07RepoBug: Bei nicht vorhandener sC entfernt. Sollte nun auch mit nur einer Klasse funktionieren.
19:01.16pastamancertcpdump -s0 -X host yourserver port 25
19:01.32pastamanceror hell, run tcpdump on the server itself
19:02.05Kaeltenand what grep for tcpdump
19:02.06Kaelten?
19:02.13Kaeltenfor helo rather
19:02.21nevcairielgrep HELO?
19:02.22nevcairiel:D
19:02.43Kaeltenyeah
19:02.47Kaeltennot seeing anything
19:02.51Pneumatustelnet to port 25? :P
19:02.58KaeltenPneumatus: not listening
19:03.17pastamancerdon't grep it, save it to a file
19:03.23pastamancerthen run less on it
19:03.35Arrowmastersend an email from that box then too
19:03.35pastamancerbecause of line wrapping
19:04.09Kaeltennot finding HELO in the tcp dump
19:04.28pastamancerit'll be EHLO most likely
19:04.41Kaeltennope
19:04.59pastamancerwhere are you running tcpdump?
19:05.13Kaeltenin bash
19:05.21Arrowmasteryou need to run it on the server
19:05.22Kaeltenon the server
19:05.44pastamancerand how many network interfaces does the server have?  just eth0?
19:05.55Kaeltenthat one? 2
19:06.34pastamancerok, so let's make sure tcpdump is listening on the right interface on the server
19:06.38Arrowmastertcpdump should be able to list all the interfaces for you
19:07.44Arrowmasterarrow@warm-nutz:~$ man tcpdump
19:07.44ArrowmasterNo manual entry for tcpdump
19:07.46Kaeltencan't find LO in it
19:07.51Arrowmasterand i dont have tcpdump installed....
19:07.58Kaeltenle sigh
19:09.03pastamancer# tcpdump -p -i eth0 -s 0 -X port 25
19:09.16pastamancerassuming your mail is being sent from eth0
19:09.29pastamancerthen send an email
19:10.59KaeltenReceived-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.57.184.215 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of subscriptions@curseforge.com) client-ip=69.57.184.215;
19:10.59KaeltenAuthentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.57.184.215 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of subscriptions@curseforge.com) smtp.mail=subscriptions@curseforge.com
19:10.59Kaeltendoes google cache spf records or something?
19:11.07Kaeltenpastamancer: trying
19:11.27Arrowmasterdns can take a while to update
19:12.28Kaeltenok I just sent an email and not seeing anything on port 25
19:13.28pastamancertry eth1?  I don't know how your server is setup
19:13.40Kaeltenyeah it should have been eth1
19:14.27Kaelten<PROTECTED>
19:14.27Kaelten<PROTECTED>
19:14.27Kaelten<PROTECTED>
19:14.27Kaelten<PROTECTED>
19:14.27Kaelten<PROTECTED>
19:14.38Kaeltenwowace.com I'm taking it?
19:14.47pastamanceryeah, that looks correct
19:15.50Kaeltenfun
19:17.29Kaeltennot sure that vbulletin is properly sending emails though
19:18.32Kaeltenand they don't have any fucking test
19:19.54Pneumatusvb will be sending mails through whatever PHP is set to use
19:20.55pastamancerand hopefully php is setup to use 'sendmail' on the local host
19:21.03Pneumatusid have thought so
19:21.09Pneumatusbut you never know
19:21.12Kaeltenyeah I think so
19:21.37pastamancerI learned a long time ago not to expect php to ever be  setup sanely
19:21.40Kaeltenheh
19:23.08Kaeltenwell exim4 can act as a smtp server right?
19:23.13pastamanceryes
19:23.20KaeltenI could just use it directlry
19:23.56pastamancerI'm not sure what you're saying.
19:24.08Kaeltenvbulletin has config options for using an smtp server
19:24.18Kaeltenrather than php's sendmail
19:24.21Kaeltener mail
19:24.36pastamanceryeah, and that fucks you if the smtp server is ever down since that's not going to queue messages
19:25.02Repo[RoM] 10heal-bot-2: 03gastroneunzehn * r21 Events/setter.lua: HP anzeige fixet.
19:25.31Kaeltenwell they're on the same sever
19:25.42Kaeltenso it'd seem like the odds of both being down is more likely than one or the other
19:25.46Kaeltenright now it's not sending jack shit
19:26.08pastamancerunless exim stops running for some reason
19:26.34Repo[RoM] 10heal-bot-2: 03gastroneunzehn * r23 Temp/rest.lua: strucktur wieder verpast
19:26.37Kaeltenyeah true enough
19:26.58pastamancerphp's sendmail goes through exim even though exim isn't listening on port 25
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19:29.58AckisWork@project heal-bot-2
19:30.00RepoAckisWork: http://rom.curseforge.com/projects/heal-bot-2/. Heal Bot 2. Game: RoM. Status: Changes required. Your description must contain an English portion at least at the beginning.. gastroneunzehn (Manager/Author), sukram0815 (Author). Updated: 3 minutes ago
19:30.03Repo[RoM] 10heal-bot-2: 03gastroneunzehn * r24 Xml/healbot2.xml: Minimap HealBot2 Butten
19:30.07AckisWorkle sigh
19:31.50Kaeltenwell
19:31.55Kaeltenphp -r "mail('kaelten@gmail.com', 'hi there', 'stuff');" worked
19:32.56pastamancerah, but is vB really using just the 'mail' function?
19:33.03pastamancerI bet it's too smart for its own good
19:33.53Kaeltenheh
19:34.03Kaeltenthe lack of a sane 'test mail sending' thing in vb is driving me nuts
19:37.07Kaeltenomg I found the test
19:37.09Kaeltenand it worked
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19:39.43AckisWorkhttp://www.wowace.com/comments/23242-ackis-closing-due-to-dumbassishness/
19:44.50KaeltenAckis: leave a comment on the curseforge project please
19:45.43Kaeltentesting something
19:46.32AckisWorkdone
19:48.18KaeltenAckis: and again?
19:49.37Kaeltenwhen I redo the subscriptions stuff I'm looking at possibily stopping batches
19:49.48Kaeltenand eventually offering the option so that you can respond via email
19:50.48Kaeltenthoughts?
19:51.28nevcairielpastamancer: you can configure vB what method to use, from plain sendmail invocation, to php mail(), to connecting to a smtp server =P
19:52.00pastamancerthen it's more reasonable than I gave it credit for
19:52.35Kaeltennevcairiel: I think vB should be sending emails sanely again
19:52.44Kaeltenif someone can confirm this for me I'd appreciate it though
19:54.45nevcairielKaelten: post on my BT4 thread, hehe
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19:55.15Pneumatusif someone sends me a PM on the forums i can check
19:56.11Kaeltenlink?
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19:57.20Kaeltenfound it
20:01.34Kaeltennevcairiel: get an email?
20:01.49nevcairielnot yet
20:01.55Kaeltenme either...
20:02.13nevcairielWhats vB set to in the mail settings?
20:02.15nevcairielmail()?
20:03.11Kaeltener I don't see an option for that
20:03.19nevcairielthere is
20:03.19KaeltenI just see smtp or nto
20:03.20nevcairielsomewhere
20:03.36Kaeltenit's set to not be smtp
20:03.49Kaeltenand when I send an email via the diagnosti tool it works
20:04.32nevcairielHm they mustve changed that, only choices for mail() or SMTP
20:04.38nevcairieli thought they had sendmail too
20:05.16Repo[RoM] 10statrating: 03shadecut * r87 lib/dynHooks/GameTooltipHyperLink_SetHyperLink.lua: Bugfix: When you open a chatlink, SR doesn't rerate is.
20:05.32KaeltenI think mail uses send mail internally
20:05.51nevcairielWhats with the -f option? do you have it active?
20:05.52Kaeltenis it @gmail.com nevcairiel?
20:05.56KaeltenI don't
20:05.57nevcairielya
20:06.26Kaeltensent you a diagnostic email
20:06.26nevcairielI'm not sure what it does, but it says it could fix stuff =P
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20:07.59Kaelten2009-02-24 15:04:48 1Lc3WF-0001g9-Q5 ** nevcairiel@gmail.com R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp: SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<nevcairiel@gmail.com>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.45.27]: 550-5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please\n550-5.1.1 try double-checking the recipient's email address for typos\n550-5.1.1 or unnecessary spaces. Learn more at\n550 5.1.1 http://mail.go
20:08.05Kaeltendid I typo
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20:09.10nevcairieloh
20:09.15nevcairieli dont have nevcairiel@ hah
20:09.23nevcairieli misunderstood you there =P
20:09.31Kaeltenoh yeah that's right
20:09.34nevcairielits h.leppkes at gmail
20:09.35Kaelteni forget what it is though
20:09.51Kaeltenthere ya go
20:10.18nevcairieli got a mail
20:11.15nevcairielspf passed too
20:11.17Kaeltengreat... http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/421dnsnr.html
20:11.22Kaeltensaying my reverse dns is fucked
20:13.25Arrowmasterdo all the ips have rdns?
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20:15.00nevcairielKaelten: yeah your ips need a reverse entry, go contact provider :)
20:15.09nevcairielsome mail daemons are anal about that
20:15.10nevcairielhowever
20:15.16nevcairieli dont see why the test mail works <.<
20:16.21Kaeltenbut I can't say why forums.wowace.com can be  X, y, z, a, or b ip though
20:17.17Arrowmasterwhy does it have that many ips?
20:18.01Kaeltenbecause it does, le sigh
20:18.10Kaeltennot so much that forums does
20:18.13Kaeltenbut the server it's on does
20:18.27Arrowmasterand almost all servers have a setting for the ip to bind to
20:18.34Arrowmasterso i would think exim would have it
20:20.22Kaeltennevcairiel said you couldn't
20:20.57Repo[RoM] 10heal-bot-2: 03sukram0815 * r26 / (2 files in 2 directories): Resetgroup() wieder eingebaut...
20:21.01RepoResetgroup2() geht nicht -.-
20:21.13Kaeltenhrm
20:22.13Pneumatushttp://www.mail-archive.com/exim-users@exim.org/msg32112.html
20:22.20Arrowmasterlocal_interfaces i think
20:23.06Pneumatushttp://atmail.com/kb/?p=207
20:23.27Pneumatusalthough, thats just something that uses exim
20:23.53nevcairielKaelten: it shouldnt matter which ip it sends over, as long as all ips have a reverse, what the reverse is doesnt matter, as long as it resolved back to the ip :)
20:24.14Pneumatuslocal_interfaces appears to be in exim.conf tho
20:24.27Repo[RoM] 10heal-bot-2: 03gastroneunzehn * r27 Init/init.lua:
20:24.32RepoDoppelte Deaktivirung wenn kein prister als Klasse vorhanden war umgeschrieben.
20:24.45nevcairielwhats with those germans
20:24.55nevcairielwe should add a new rule
20:24.59nevcairielcommit logs in english
20:25.18Arrowmasterits in /etc/exim4/conf.d/main/01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs for me
20:25.30Pneumatusis RoM gonna have multiple servers, or is it gonna be plagued with germans?
20:25.35Pneumatuson every sever
20:25.50KaeltenArrowmaster: I don't have an example of a valid config option for it
20:26.10Arrowmasterhttp://atmail.com/kb/?p=207
20:26.13Arrowmasteri guess
20:27.25Pneumatushttp://www.exim-new-users.co.uk/content/view/38/39/
20:33.27Kaeltenrebooting
20:33.38PneumatusKaelten: are you aware its not possible to change the global release preference?
20:33.54Pneumatusor, it doesnt seem to stick anyway
20:35.36HjaltePneumatus: I told him that yesterday as well
20:36.41HjaltePneumatus: If you want to change all your addons, you could highlight them all and select the right preference.
20:36.58Pneumatusdone that now
20:41.53Kaeltenback
20:42.06Kaeltenyeah Pneumatus: we're aware of that one
20:43.40Kaeltenreally liking safari 4
20:43.58Stanzillathe tab-bar is shit
20:44.10KaeltenI like it
20:46.41Stanzillait looks like chrome :P
20:50.10Kaeltenit looks better than chrome
20:51.53Kaeltenand actually looks like a windows app on windows
20:53.04nevcairielcant be!
20:53.12Kaeltenyeah really does
20:53.22Kaeltenseen it under areo and xp
20:54.06Kaeltenits fast a hell too,
20:54.18Kaeltenactually passes acid3, which is humerous
20:54.36Stanzillaimo it's not very intuitive to have the tabs where the titelbar is
20:54.36Stanzillaand it uses 120mb ram with 2 tabs open /facepalm
20:54.44Stanzillahttp://screenshots.winfuture.de/Apple-Safari-Browser-1235493787.jpg < screenshot on 7
20:55.47Stanzillabrb
20:58.01nevcairielman thats small
20:58.04nevcairielgot any smaller?
20:58.05nevcairiel:P
20:58.06Kaeltenreally? I find it to be pretty straight forward
21:00.33StanzillaI really don't like the tab bar..the rest is fine
21:02.27Stanzillanevcairiel: http://screenshots.winfuture.de/1235493751.jpg
21:02.54KaeltenI liek the fact it really is smaller compared to firefox or chrome
21:03.57Zhinjioif chrome would let me install somewhere besides the C: drive, I'd be more inclined to use it.
21:04.01Zhinjiothats a deal breaker for me
21:05.24Kaeltenthe no mac support is the breaker for me
21:06.25KaeltenI love that in safari 4 I can actually drag tabs off into their own windows
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21:12.51nevcairielyeah its really chrome, Stanzilla
21:12.55nevcairielalthough i like it
21:34.34nevcairielhaha some people are funny
21:34.35nevcairielDo you have an error log of what happened?
21:34.35nevcairielYes, from Swatter
21:34.41nevcairielthats all i got from him
21:34.57nevcairielnot like he posts it or anything
21:34.59nevcairielbut he has one!
21:38.35Kuja^heh its like.... the correct answer to the question :D
21:38.55Kuja^noone ever told him that he should post it *hides*
21:45.07nevcairielKaelten: did client release move again, or are you still on for today? :p
21:45.50nevcairiel(btw, "Set all addons to install type" is still broken in 2.1.2.1
21:45.52nevcairiel)
21:46.45nevcairiels/install type/release preference/
21:47.44Kaeltenwe want to test the toolbar overhaul
21:47.48Kaeltenuntil tommorrow
21:48.15Kaeltenthis version is only used by 82k people
21:48.20StanzillaSome of your addons are out of
21:48.20Kaeltennot the full 700k
21:48.22Stanzillanooo :(
21:48.31KaeltenStanzilla: damn we were hoping that'd fixe
21:48.36nevcairiellol
21:48.41Stanzilla:P
21:48.46HjalteKaelten: Why the change to the "Tools" button?
21:48.47nevcairieljust move the damn button to the left, hehe
21:49.01KaeltenHjalte: the entire toolbar got changed
21:49.25StanzillaKaelten: the background color of the left pane doesn't fit anymore
21:49.29Stanzillamake it white, too :P
21:49.37Kaeltenscreen?
21:49.41Stanzillasec
21:50.11Repo[WoW] 10reagenthelper2: 03Davie3 * r24 Localization (9 files in 1 directory):
21:50.14RepoChanged the locale files so they can use the CurseForge Localization system.
21:50.14HjalteKaelten: Ah yes, I see. But the tools button, at least on the "Your addons" tab seem to present the same menu whether I click the actual button or the small icon on the right.
21:50.22StanzillaKaelten: http://i43.tinypic.com/156be6r.png
21:50.50nevcairieldo you run win7 with the snipping tool or how are you that fast? =P
21:51.27KaeltenHjalte: yes they do
21:51.46Stanzillanevcairiel: alt+print
21:52.13Kaeltenoverall I think that the changes to the toolbar are a major plus
21:52.14nevcairielhm thats cool
21:52.18Stanzilla^^
21:52.38StanzillaKaelten: yeah but my addons are out of!
21:52.50KaeltenStanzilla: awesome, just use your imagination
21:52.54Stanzilla<3
21:53.06Stanzilla(I like the toolbar changes)
21:55.10Zhinjio2.1.2.1 is the latest?
21:55.13Zhinjiois that right?
21:56.13Stanzillayes
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22:07.11Pneumatusyeh, the new buttons look like they belong there now
22:07.28Kaeltenalso the damn shadow thing is gone
22:07.44Pneumatusdouble-clicking addons still has different behaviour if they have updates :<
22:07.55Kaeltenyeah... not sure what to do on that one
22:08.02Kaeltenand honeslty had bigger targets
22:08.32Pneumatusis this the "release" version now?
22:08.39Kaeltenalmost
22:08.43Kaeltennot quiet 100% official
22:08.49Kaeltenbut yes very close
22:10.07Kaeltennevcairiel: did you never fi the css on the forums search box?
22:10.22nevcairielI dunno, is it broken?
22:10.28Kaeltenkinda
22:12.01Kaeltenthere is a background style missing from #formSearch div.input .icon
22:12.02Pneumatusi wish there was an option to filter tickets by "all closed statuses"
22:12.04Kaeltenbackground: url(http://static.wowace.com/wowace/images/favicon.ico);
22:12.15nevcairieli see
22:12.17nevcairielfixes
22:12.24Pneumatusoh there is
22:12.25Pneumatusignore me
22:12.29Repo[WoW] 10reagenthelper2: 03Davie3 * r25 Localization/koKR.lua: Forgot to change the locale from enUS to koKR.
22:18.25Kaeltenthanks nev
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22:31.06Repo[WAR] 10nerfed-buttons: 03Scaythe 07NerfedButtonsRerolled * r228 / (5 files in 2 directories): Added the checks and params commands
22:31.10RepoIn game documentation is done
22:45.44Repo[WAR] 10nerfed-buttons: 03Scaythe 07NerfedButtonsRerolled * r229 / (15 files in 2 directories):
22:45.48RepoChanged NerfedLooks to NerdedTalks, to free Looks for the gui
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23:02.34DashkalGit is weird...  I just learned to create empty branches (no parent)
23:17.35Arrowmasteryeah thats not exactly a common thing so you have to use some backend commands and other hackery to do it
23:27.43DashkalYeah, so not remembering this: git symbolic-ref HEAD refs/heads/<name-of-branch>; git rm --cached -r .
23:27.56DashkalIt made for a hell of a graph when I played with it, though
23:46.31Repo[WoW] 10epgp_lootmaster: 03mackatack * r72 lootmaster_core.lua: Possible fix for recent disconnect issues.
23:47.30Repo[WoW] 10epgp_lootmaster: 03mackatack 04v0.3.43 * r73 : Made a copy

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