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| 06:22.18 | *** topic/#debian-bots is Welcome to #debian-bots. Please don't abuse them. || People who are using my (dondelelcaro's) W3Scraper.pl patches want a new version of Google.pm at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/blootbot/Google.pm; stick it in /usr/share/perl5/WWW/Scraper/Google.pm |
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| 06:30.50 | TimRiker | ibot: chanset #debian-bots autojoin |
| 06:30.50 | | autojoin for #debian-bots is 'ibot' |
| 06:30.56 | TimRiker | ibot: chanset #debian-bots autojoin apt |
| 06:30.56 | | Setting autojoin for #debian-bots to 'apt'; was 'ibot'. |
| 06:31.06 | TimRiker | ibot: part #debian-bots |
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| 06:31.16 | *** topic/#debian-bots is Welcome to #debian-bots. Please don't abuse them. || People who are using my (dondelelcaro's) W3Scraper.pl patches want a new version of Google.pm at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/blootbot/Google.pm; stick it in /usr/share/perl5/WWW/Scraper/Google.pm |
| 06:32.21 | simonrvn | TimRiker: you put in some chaset stuff for blootbot? |
| 06:32.28 | simonrvn | chanset* |
| 06:32.55 | simonrvn | ravenbird: chanset help |
| 06:32.58 | ravenbird | simonrvn: are you smoking crack? |
| 06:33.16 | simonrvn | ravenbird: chanset #debian-bots autojoin |
| 06:33.17 | ravenbird | wish i knew, simonrvn |
| 06:33.21 | TimRiker | simonrvn: it's been there, just an admin command. |
| 06:33.36 | TimRiker | apt: chanset autojoin |
| 06:33.36 | | Showing autojoin values on all channels... |
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| 06:33.43 | simonrvn | oh ok. i enable it in blootbot.users i guess |
| 06:34.40 | TimRiker | yeah. or /msg bot identify <password from .users> to get access. I think defaults setup only allows it over dcc chat. I set 'A' on my user so I can use it on normal irc. |
| 06:35.23 | simonrvn | oh cool. thanks |
| 06:36.36 | TimRiker | np |
| 06:37.03 | simonrvn | doh me, i forgot to edit .users when i got the usercloak... |
| 06:39.31 | simonrvn | i did, but badly.. |
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| 06:40.43 | simonrvn | ravenbird: chanset help |
| 06:40.44 | ravenbird | Showing help values on all channels... |
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| 06:41.09 | simonrvn | ravenbird: chanset autojoin |
| 06:41.10 | ravenbird | Showing autojoin values on all channels... |
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| 06:42.53 | simonrvn | TimRiker: do you know where all those .users --FLAGS are documented ? |
| 06:46.40 | TimRiker | apt: literal xcompile |
| 06:46.42 | | xcompile is <REPLY> see http://www.openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/, or mkdir /usr/local/arm and extract them in there. |
| 06:46.46 | TimRiker | ~xcompile |
| 06:46.49 | Phoenix- | TimRiker: Bugger all, I dunno |
| 06:46.53 | TimRiker | ~listkeys xcompile |
| 06:46.55 | Phoenix- | Factoid search of 'xcompile' by key returned no results. |
| 06:47.03 | TimRiker | ~xcompile. |
| 06:47.04 | Phoenix- | TimRiker: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 06:47.09 | TimRiker | ~xcompiler |
| 06:47.10 | | i guess xcompiler is see xcompile :) |
| 06:47.11 | Phoenix- | TimRiker: I give up, what is it? |
| 06:47.17 | TimRiker | hmm. |
| 06:47.22 | TimRiker | apt: literal xcompile |
| 06:47.24 | | xcompile is <REPLY> see http://www.openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/, or mkdir /usr/local/arm and extract them in there. |
| 06:47.59 | TimRiker | simonrvn: looking... |
| 06:51.46 | TimRiker | simonrvn: look for @regFlagsUser in src/* |
| 06:51.47 | simonrvn | ok, thanks |
| 06:51.53 | TimRiker | apt: no, xcompile is <reply> see http://www.openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/, or mkdir /usr/local/arm and extract them in there. |
| 06:51.58 | | TimRiker: okay |
| 06:52.29 | TimRiker | apt: no, xcompile is <reply> http://www.openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/, or mkdir /usr/local/arm and extract them in there. |
| 06:52.32 | | TimRiker: okay |
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| 06:55.41 | TimRiker | ~findcalues <reply> see |
| 06:55.43 | Phoenix- | TimRiker: Parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 06:55.45 | TimRiker | ~findvalues <reply> see |
| 06:55.47 | Phoenix- | Bugger all, I dunno, TimRiker |
| 06:55.52 | TimRiker | ~+help |
| 06:55.55 | Phoenix- | I learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at http://www.xxx.com", and then reply when people ask things like "where can i find x?" |
| 06:55.55 | Phoenix- | 37 topics: +ban, +host, -ban, -host, action, addressing, alternation, author, babelfish, bugs, chaninfo, chanset, chanunset, chattr, chnick, chpass, contents, cookie, corrections, cpustats, crypt, cycle, dauthor, ddesc, dict, dollar variables, dstats, factinfo, factstats, find, forget, freshmeat, hex, ircstats, join, karma, kernel |
| 06:55.56 | Phoenix- | 33 topics: kick, lart, listauth, listkeys, listvalues, lobotomy, lock, main, nickometer, nslookup, ord, part, quote, redirection, rename, reply, rot13, search, seen, slashdot, spell, status, topic, topic add, topic del, topic mod, topic mv, topic restore, unforget, unlobotomy, unlock, uptime, wantnick |
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| 06:56.04 | TimRiker | ~listvalues <reply> see |
| 06:56.06 | Phoenix- | Factoid search of '<reply> see' by value returned no results. |
| 06:56.18 | TimRiker | hmm. |
| 06:57.09 | nictuku | ~listvalues rsync |
| 06:57.11 | Phoenix- | Factoid search of 'rsync' by value returned no results. |
| 06:58.05 | nictuku | 15 shown, 17 total? is it possible to see all of them, or should i refine the search? |
| 06:59.33 | nictuku | nictuku++ |
| 06:59.41 | nictuku | ~karma for nictuku |
| 06:59.41 | | for nictuku has neutral karma |
| 06:59.42 | Phoenix- | for nictuku has neutral karma |
| 06:59.46 | nictuku | ~nictuku++ |
| 07:00.00 | TimRiker | can't karma yourself. ;-) |
| 07:00.08 | nictuku | hehe i noticed that |
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| 07:01.08 | TimRiker | ~chanset autojoin #debian-br |
| 07:01.08 | | Setting autojoin for _default to '#debian-br'. |
| 07:01.08 | Phoenix- | No idea, TimRiker |
| 07:01.25 | TimRiker | ~chanset -autojoin |
| 07:01.25 | | Unsetting autojoin for _default; was '#debian-br'. |
| 07:01.26 | Phoenix- | Wish i knew, TimRiker |
| 07:01.36 | TimRiker | ~chanset #debian-br autojoin |
| 07:01.36 | | autojoin for #debian-br is not set. |
| 07:01.37 | Phoenix- | Bugger all, I dunno, TimRiker |
| 07:01.40 | TimRiker | ~chanset #debian-br autojoin apt |
| 07:01.40 | | Setting autojoin for #debian-br to 'apt'. |
| 07:01.41 | Phoenix- | TimRiker: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 07:02.26 | simonrvn | try +autojoin ? |
| 07:02.49 | TimRiker | simonrvn: it did it. I just typed it wrong the first time. |
| 07:02.55 | simonrvn | oh |
| 07:03.07 | TimRiker | ~chanset autojoin |
| 07:03.08 | | Showing autojoin values on all channels... |
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| 07:03.09 | Phoenix- | TimRiker: No idea |
| 07:03.40 | TimRiker | ibot/jbot/apt are all the same bot. ie: the same process id. |
| 07:04.01 | simonrvn | it's that multi-nick thing that was added ? |
| 07:04.28 | simonrvn | @gnome2 mc |
| 07:04.32 | ravenbird | somebody said gnome 2 mini commander was apt-get install quick-lounge-applet |
| 07:04.39 | TimRiker | yeah. I've been hacking on that. it's a work in progress. |
| 07:04.39 | nictuku | ~google for one two three |
| 07:04.47 | Phoenix- | google can't find one two three |
| 07:04.57 | simonrvn | @scrape google for one two three |
| 07:04.59 | nictuku | interesting indeed |
| 07:05.00 | TimRiker | ~gnome2 mc |
| 07:05.04 | | i guess gnome 2 mini commander is apt-get install quick-lounge-applet |
| 07:05.04 | Phoenix- | TimRiker: Wish i knew |
| 07:05.22 | dondelelcaro | !scrape google for foo |
| 07:05.27 | TimRiker | ~literal gnome2 mc |
| 07:05.29 | | gnome2 mc is <reply> see gnome 2 mini commander |
| 07:05.29 | Phoenix- | TimRiker: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 07:05.29 | dpkg | Google says "foo" is at http://www.foofighters.com/ or http://www.foo.com/ or http://randomfoo.net/ or http://www.foo.be/ or http://www.kung-foo.tv/ or http://www.forgetfoo.com/ [3,800,000 results] |
| 07:05.36 | simonrvn | @+scrape google for bar |
| 07:05.48 | ravenbird | Google says "bar" is at http://www.abanet.org/home.html or http://toolbar.google.com/ or http://www.flabar.org/ or http://www.calbar.org/ or http://www.clifbar.com/ or http://www.mobar.org/ [49,100,000 results] |
| 07:06.03 | dondelelcaro | aparently bar really is more popular than foo... |
| 07:06.11 | simonrvn | seems so |
| 07:06.57 | simonrvn | my dcc chat with RB seems borked. and i have no idea why |
| 07:07.36 | simonrvn | i get WARN! DCC ??? |
| 07:07.39 | nictuku | watch this |
| 07:07.41 | nictuku | ~dbugs |
| 07:08.31 | nictuku | i guess it relies on a offline site.. |
| 07:08.33 | simonrvn | @+dbugs xserver-xfree86 |
| 07:08.34 | ravenbird | do_pkg not supported yet. |
| 07:08.44 | simonrvn | @+maint xserver-xfree86 |
| 07:08.48 | ravenbird | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 07:08.52 | nictuku | ahhh |
| 07:08.55 | simonrvn | oh crap... |
| 07:09.22 | simonrvn | it updates the files, then somehow the files get deleted, and says no files for foo |
| 07:09.59 | simonrvn | fucking weird. i was playing with it yesterday, and it would download them ok, then somehow they get deleted |
| 07:10.12 | ravenbird | xserver-xfree86: Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org> |
| 07:10.17 | simonrvn | oh worked |
| 07:10.29 | nictuku | dbugs with no parameters should be replied with an error instead of parsing the webpage than returning an error.. |
| 07:10.39 | simonrvn | must've been just for info factoid then |
| 07:10.55 | simonrvn | @+find foo |
| 07:10.59 | ravenbird | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 07:11.03 | nictuku | help find |
| 07:11.30 | TimRiker | ~+dinfo xserver-xfree86 |
| 07:11.31 | Phoenix- | TimRiker: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 07:11.36 | TimRiker | ~+info xserver-xfree86 |
| 07:11.38 | Phoenix- | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 07:12.11 | ravenbird | Debian Search of 'foo' (8 shown; 53 total): (/usr/bin/mc-foo) in sound/mc-foo ;; (/etc/htdig/footer.html) in web/htdig ;; (/usr/lib/egtk/C/se/foo.e) in devel/egtk ;; (/etc/printbill/web_footer) in text/printbill ;; (/etc/wwwoffle/namazu/NMZ.foot) in web/wwwoffle ;; (/etc/courier/dsnfooter.txt) in mail/courier-mta ;; (/etc/htcheck/footer.inc.php) in web/htcheck-php ;; (/etc/viewcvs/templates/footer.ezt) in devel/viewcvs. |
| 07:12.15 | simonrvn | now a broekn pipe for grep |
| 07:12.22 | Phoenix- | Package 'xserver-xfree86' does not exist. |
| 07:12.24 | simonrvn | wow it worked |
| 07:12.47 | TimRiker | ~maintainer xserver-xfree86 |
| 07:13.04 | simonrvn | @+info xserver-xfree86 |
| 07:13.14 | simonrvn | maint |
| 07:13.20 | TimRiker | ~maint xserver-xfree86 |
| 07:13.20 | ravenbird | xserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.1-15 (sid), Packaged size: 4407 kB, Installed size: 12136 kB |
| 07:13.34 | simonrvn | weird, it's working now.. |
| 07:13.43 | TimRiker | ah |
| 07:13.48 | TimRiker | ~maint bzflag |
| 07:13.52 | simonrvn | :) |
| 07:13.55 | TimRiker | ;-) |
| 07:14.00 | simonrvn | oh :) hehe |
| 07:14.06 | nictuku | ~dbugs frozen-bubble |
| 07:14.20 | nictuku | <apt> do_pkg not supported yet. |
| 07:14.34 | TimRiker | patches welcome |
| 07:14.41 | nictuku | :) |
| 07:14.45 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs #123456 |
| 07:14.48 | dpkg | DONE:#123456:W[wnpp] ITP: eazel-engine -- Crux theme for GTK+ |
| 07:14.54 | simonrvn | should probably do a querybts frontend for dbugs |
| 07:14.58 | simonrvn | ah |
| 07:15.02 | dondelelcaro | simonrvn: that's the only part of dbugs that has been implemented so far... |
| 07:15.08 | simonrvn | nods |
| 07:15.16 | dondelelcaro | simonrvn: I just don't know what the right way to do a package search. |
| 07:15.37 | dondelelcaro | esp. as some packages can have a few hundred bug reports... |
| 07:15.57 | simonrvn | libc.. |
| 07:15.58 | TimRiker | ~dbugs #123456 |
| 07:16.16 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: its one of the stranger patches that I've got... |
| 07:16.19 | simonrvn | @dbugs #233672 |
| 07:16.31 | simonrvn | @dbugs #23672 |
| 07:16.36 | TimRiker | dondelelcaro: send it in. ;-) |
| 07:16.39 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/blootbot/ |
| 07:16.52 | simonrvn | keeps telling me about do_bugs not supported yet |
| 07:17.06 | nictuku | do_pkg |
| 07:17.15 | simonrvn | yeh, that :) |
| 07:18.05 | simonrvn | finally cron jobs over.. |
| 07:18.20 | simonrvn | (boot disk is a loud one) |
| 07:19.25 | simonrvn | one of those older 9 gb barracudas.. |
| 07:21.29 | nictuku | do the bots have any kind of abuse-prevent system? |
| 07:21.42 | nictuku | it seems that some tasks are rather processor-intensive |
| 07:21.54 | dondelelcaro | nictuku: sort of, but not a good one. |
| 07:22.12 | dondelelcaro | nictuku: I've implemented a moron array in dpkg that ignores specific nicks... |
| 07:23.14 | nictuku | they could queue tasks, to prevent stupid "ddos" from, like, 20 clients requesting multiple things at the same time.. |
| 07:23.30 | dondelelcaro | nictuku: oh, they do... they only allow so many forks... |
| 07:23.42 | nictuku | hmm |
| 07:23.56 | dondelelcaro | nictuku: but they don't track which nicks are using the most resources to see if someone is using more than they should. |
| 07:24.29 | nictuku | i am actually flooding apt a bit, to learn its features. is that a problem? |
| 07:24.54 | dondelelcaro | nictuku: I don't run apt... I run dpkg, but its not a big deal... the bots mainly eat memory. Their cpu usage is minimal. |
| 07:25.02 | TimRiker | nictuku: he has some flood protection. works ok most of the time. |
| 07:25.18 | nictuku | TimRiker: nice. |
| 07:26.06 | TimRiker | blootbot has a timeout for repeated requests across nicks. |
| 07:26.37 | TimRiker | iirc it's settable on a per channel basis too. |
| 07:26.50 | dondelelcaro | yeah... |
| 07:27.06 | TimRiker | dondelelcaro: I run apt. he should be more stable now than he has been the past year or so. |
| 07:27.14 | TimRiker | bk handed him off to me. |
| 07:27.27 | TimRiker | apt/ibot/jbot are all the same bot. |
| 07:27.36 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: yeah, that's why I was asking you to update it in bzflag earlier... |
| 07:27.42 | TimRiker | apt: chaninfo |
| 07:27.42 | | i am on 40 channels: #asterisk (162), #berlin (1), #botpark (5), #brits (2), #bzflag (29), #debian (594), #debian-bots (14), #debian-br (36), #debian-france (16), #debianplanet (1), #debianppc (48), #elinux (20), #familiar (11), #fightthepower (1), #gct (2), #gllug (17), #gpe (17), #handhelds.org (69), #intimate (11), #ipaq (8), #kde (75), #kiss (2), #linuxinfo (1), #magnia (6), #openembedded (49), #openzaurus (68), #opie (35), #palmchat (2), #pet (7), #picogui (9), #project24 (9), #slug (26), #storm (2), #tacobeam (20), #teleconf (1), #tomcat (25), #uclibc (10), #utah (22), #zaurus (73) |
| 07:27.42 | | i've cached 1506 users, 1 unique user, distributed over 40 channels. |
| 07:27.47 | TimRiker | apt: status |
| 07:27.48 | | Since Tue Dec 30 06:20:09 2003, there have been 7 modifications, 38 questions, 11 dunnos, 0 morons and 56 commands. I have been awake for 1h 7m 38s this session, and currently reference 106145 factoids. I'm using about 12216 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 144.82/45.81 child 132.56/9.72 |
| 07:27.49 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: thanks for doing that btw. |
| 07:27.54 | TimRiker | dondelelcaro: and I did tonight. ;-) |
| 07:28.21 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: nb, I'm simi in process of rewriting the infrastructure of blootbot from scratch to use PoCo::IRC instead of Net::IRC... |
| 07:28.33 | TimRiker | PoCo? |
| 07:28.40 | TimRiker | ~poco |
| 07:28.42 | Phoenix- | TimRiker: Bugger all, I dunno |
| 07:28.45 | dondelelcaro | POE::Component |
| 07:28.48 | dondelelcaro | !poco |
| 07:29.02 | nictuku | what is the database type of apt, mysql? |
| 07:29.41 | TimRiker | nictuku: blootbot does either mysql or sqlite. apt/ibot/jbot use sqlite. |
| 07:29.56 | dondelelcaro | !poco is <reply> PoCo, or POE::Component is a perl framework for multi tasking systems. See http://poe.perl.org/ |
| 07:29.57 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: okay |
| 07:30.13 | TimRiker | ~poco is <reply> PoCo, or POE::Component is a perl framework for multi tasking systems. See http://poe.perl.org/ |
| 07:30.17 | | TimRiker: okay |
| 07:30.17 | nictuku | hm. |
| 07:30.17 | Phoenix- | okay, TimRiker |
| 07:30.46 | simonrvn | @poco is <reply> PoCo, or POE::Component is a perl framework for multi tasking systems. See http://poe.perl.org/ |
| 07:30.47 | ravenbird | okay, simonrvn |
| 07:31.01 | nictuku | the freshmeat frontend is not working. |
| 07:31.13 | nictuku | actually apt take freshmeat as a factoid, |
| 07:31.16 | TimRiker | yeah, it's whacked. patches welcome. |
| 07:32.06 | dondelelcaro | heh. I think dpkg's sort of works, but it takes for freaking ever to update. |
| 07:32.54 | TimRiker | dondelelcaro: what will the PoCo update yield? ie: what's the goal? |
| 07:33.04 | nictuku | TimRiker: btw, I am not complaining. just reporting. And yes I consider patching... |
| 07:33.18 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: to get away from Net::IRC's brokenness, and change the code so its actually modular. |
| 07:33.22 | nictuku | ~kernel |
| 07:33.24 | TimRiker | nictuku: ;-) |
| 07:33.40 | simonrvn | @freshmeat |
| 07:33.41 | ravenbird | i heard freshmeat is at http://freshmeat.net/ |
| 07:34.07 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: ie, so you could just run a bot that only does factoids, only searches google, or does everything... |
| 07:34.54 | nictuku | i've read at kernel.org that they asked bot managers to stop using finger and get the information from a webpage dedicated to that. what are your thoughts? should that be fixed? |
| 07:35.07 | dondelelcaro | nictuku: simonrvn has a patch for that iirc. |
| 07:35.16 | nictuku | ah ok. |
| 07:36.08 | TimRiker | nictuku: is there an rss feed? that would be better. |
| 07:36.44 | TimRiker | bbiab |
| 07:38.31 | nictuku | i can't tell. |
| 07:38.34 | TimRiker | dondelelcaro: nod. supybot is modular that way. |
| 07:39.01 | TimRiker | in blootbot you can turn on and off features on a per channel basis. sorta the same. |
| 07:39.50 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: yeah, but any addition of features by a feature writer currently requires patching the bot... |
| 07:39.51 | TimRiker | imho more stuff should be modules and not always loaded. would reduce memory but increase cpu usage. |
| 07:40.15 | TimRiker | yeah, the command array is a Bad Thing. |
| 07:40.48 | nictuku | hehe agreed. |
| 07:41.17 | TimRiker | I'd rather have aliases built in and module commands be <modulename> <command name> argument. then the admin could add an alias for <commandname> mapping to <modulename> <commandname> |
| 07:41.21 | dondelelcaro | yeah... I'm still figuring out exactly how I'm going to do that, but most likely, the module will get to add itself into the command parser, and then can access specific message types, and then handle, modify, or pass on each of the message. |
| 07:41.56 | TimRiker | ie: |
| 07:41.59 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 07:41.59 | Phoenix- | TimRiker: I don't know |
| 07:42.17 | TimRiker | would be "bzflag list" with an alias for "bzflist" |
| 07:42.38 | TimRiker | the modules array init code is ugly too and should die. |
| 07:42.48 | dondelelcaro | probably... |
| 07:42.49 | TimRiker | it should be generated from the Modules/ directory. |
| 07:42.56 | simonrvn | nictuku: i'm doing that re: kernel.org, with the webpage thing |
| 07:43.32 | simonrvn | i should diff that out, and put it up soon |
| 07:43.55 | nictuku | what are the top priorities fixes for blootbot? |
| 07:44.10 | nictuku | that i could work on. |
| 07:44.43 | TimRiker | I'd really like to get multinick finished up. I'd like to see an sql table for .chan and .users |
| 07:45.18 | TimRiker | I'd like to see the shm stuff removed and converted to a pipe using the main select loop. |
| 07:45.30 | TimRiker | modules would then write results over the pipe etc. |
| 07:46.11 | TimRiker | and local admin would use the CLI type interface to talk over the pipe to the running bot. |
| 07:46.28 | nictuku | :) |
| 07:46.57 | TimRiker | so you start it and then run the admin interface and then use admin commands to tell him which servers to connect to as which nick, and which channels to join etc. |
| 07:47.02 | TimRiker | all stored in sql tables. |
| 07:47.08 | nictuku | http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/pub/blootbot-cvs.tar.gz is this the last version indeed or should i checkout the cvs branch? |
| 07:47.31 | nictuku | TimRiker: kinda like eggdrop in a sense, then. |
| 07:47.34 | simonrvn | ok, http://simonraven.nuit.ca/src/Kernel.pl.diff |
| 07:47.59 | TimRiker | the tarball is updated daily. SF anoncvs should be about the same stuff. |
| 07:48.11 | nictuku | ok. |
| 07:49.17 | TimRiker | Access forbidden! |
| 07:49.17 | nictuku | forgive me my lame question, but after getting 'compiled' will a perl software run much slower than a C coded? |
| 07:50.05 | TimRiker | nictuku: some things do, yeah. perl does a lot of datatype conversions automatically and the C version would avoid many of those. |
| 07:50.09 | simonrvn | wah? oh. sec |
| 07:50.32 | TimRiker | nictuku: but it would be tougher to modify too. ;-) |
| 07:50.55 | nictuku | do you know the eggdrop-style? |
| 07:51.08 | simonrvn | ok |
| 07:51.50 | TimRiker | simonrvn: still getting the error. might be a cache issue in the server? |
| 07:53.21 | nictuku | hmm 6 am here. gotta go. |
| 07:54.01 | TimRiker | simonrvn: the date on the error page keeps changing so it's not on my end. |
| 07:54.38 | simonrvn | i just checked it from here |
| 07:55.42 | simonrvn | try just visiting instead of wget |
| 07:56.01 | TimRiker | http://simonraven.nuit.ca/src/Kernel.pl.diff tried with mozilla and got an error page. |
| 07:57.00 | TimRiker | wget also gives the internal server error. |
| 07:57.25 | TimRiker | I can read http://simonraven.nuit.ca/src/ just fine. |
| 07:58.36 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:58.44 | simonrvn | fucking apache2... |
| 08:00.42 | dondelelcaro | do we know who is actually running the blootbot project? |
| 08:01.09 | dondelelcaro | it would be nice to get all of these changes included in a single svn repository |
| 08:01.23 | simonrvn | arch ! :) |
| 08:01.34 | simonrvn | but whatever works is okwith me |
| 08:02.03 | dondelelcaro | whatever... I happen to like svn alot, but either way works... [the merge and switch commands do what you'd use arch to do... but whatever.] |
| 08:04.12 | dondelelcaro | no cvs though... some of the changes that have to be made are way to complex for it. |
| 08:05.03 | TimRiker | dondelelcaro: well, I'm an admin on the SF project and have the blootbot user's password and have been the most active in the source lately. |
| 08:05.24 | TimRiker | bk looks over my cvs changes, but let's me do what I want. ;-) |
| 08:06.42 | TimRiker | I'd prefer sticking with cvs for the moment. |
| 08:09.31 | TimRiker | same error for http://simonraven.nuit.ca/src/Kernel.pl.patch.gz |
| 08:09.40 | dondelelcaro | cvs has the nasty problem of being unable to handle versioned renames, moves, et al. |
| 08:09.54 | dondelelcaro | that's the main reason why I'm moving away from it for all of my new codebases... |
| 08:10.24 | simonrvn | stupid thing is trying to exec it... |
| 08:10.25 | TimRiker | dondelelcaro: nod. I have not found anything I like better though. each have their own quirks. |
| 08:10.33 | TimRiker | at least cvs is known quirks. |
| 08:10.55 | dondelelcaro | yeah, svn is pretty much a drop in replacement for cvs now, though... |
| 08:11.26 | dondelelcaro | it has a few slight issues that are rapidly being worked, out, but the ability to have versioned moves, copies, et al. is quite worth the effort, in my mind... |
| 08:11.46 | simonrvn | ok, without the .pl stuff |
| 08:15.03 | TimRiker | simonrvn: patch fails against cvs. |
| 08:15.42 | TimRiker | cvs has: sub kernelGetInfo { |
| 08:15.42 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.42 | TimRiker | } |
| 08:16.10 | simonrvn | it's an old thing i did last august.. |
| 08:16.28 | simonrvn | must've gotten updated then |
| 08:16.36 | TimRiker | yep. a lot has changed. |
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| 08:26.06 | dondelelcaro | !status |
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| 08:26.24 | TimRiker | ~status |
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| 08:26.25 | Phoenix- | Since Fri Dec 5 17:44:21 2003, there have been 1 modification and 0 questions and 37 dunnos and 0 morons and 14 commands. I have been awake for 24d 7h 32m 42s this session, and currently reference 14 factoids. I'm using about 11568 kB of memory. |
| 08:26.35 | dondelelcaro | Phoenix-: owner |
| 08:26.40 | dondelelcaro | Phoenix-: who owns you |
| 08:26.45 | dondelelcaro | Phoenix-: who owns you? |
| 08:27.13 | dondelelcaro | hrm. a PyroTechno in #phpfreaks does. |
| 08:27.36 | dondelelcaro | !seen PyroTechno |
| 08:27.36 | dpkg | pyrotechno <nathan@140.99.13.155> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 4d 8h 30m 51s ago, saying: 'I'll just build gcc from source and hope it does not fuck up'. |
| 08:28.00 | dondelelcaro | !seen simonrvn |
| 08:28.01 | dpkg | simonrvn is currently on #debian #debian-bots. Has said a total of 3891 messages. Is idling for 11m 32s |
| 08:28.05 | dondelelcaro | !seen dondelelcaro |
| 08:28.06 | dpkg | dondelelcaro is currently on #debian #hurd-bunny #debian-bots. Has said a total of 2106 messages. Is idling for 0s |
| 08:28.21 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: oh yeah, that's something else I fixed.. the seen code is totally whacked. |
| 08:28.25 | simonrvn | @status |
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| 08:28.35 | TimRiker | ~seen dondelelcaro |
| 08:28.37 | | dondelelcaro is currently on #debian-bots #debian #debianppc. Has said a total of 55 messages. Is idling for 16s |
| 08:28.37 | Phoenix- | dondelelcaro is currently on #debian-bots (12d 17h 51m 8s) |
| 08:29.06 | TimRiker | dondelelcaro: what's whacked? |
| 08:29.29 | TimRiker | apt: seen timriker |
| 08:29.30 | | timriker is currently on #pet (1h 56m 57s) #kde (1h 56m 57s) #debian-bots (1h 56m 57s) #botpark (1h 56m 57s) #bzflag (1h 56m 57s). Has said a total of 137 messages. Is idling for 1s |
| 08:29.39 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: the message counter resets, for one. |
| 08:29.54 | TimRiker | when? |
| 08:30.02 | TimRiker | on bot restart? |
| 08:30.08 | TimRiker | some might call that a feature. |
| 08:30.40 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: well, its kind of a bug because of the way the database is set up... |
| 08:31.13 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: the message count in the database never gets dealt with properly, iirc. |
| 08:31.15 | TimRiker | I noticed that the dpkg dumps have 2 more fields on seen. messagecount and hehcount iirc. |
| 08:31.30 | TimRiker | my database does not have those fields at all. |
| 08:32.32 | dondelelcaro | strange... |
| 08:32.44 | dondelelcaro | hrm. maybe I added those and forgot about them... |
| 08:32.53 | TimRiker | nor are they referenced in the current cvs sources. |
| 08:32.58 | dondelelcaro | I don't remember doing that though... |
| 08:34.01 | TimRiker | well first thing I'd like to do is get each of us on the same sources. |
| 08:34.15 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/blootbot/blootbot/setup/seen.sql?rev=1.1&view=markup |
| 08:34.35 | TimRiker | I used to run ibot as a heavily patched infobot and then when I moved to blootbot I did so cause I could actually get the patches upstream. |
| 08:35.45 | TimRiker | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/blootbot/blootbot/setup/seen.sql?r1=1.1&r2=1.2 |
| 08:36.08 | TimRiker | dondelelcaro: may 18th 2001 they were removed. |
| 08:36.44 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: yeah, dpkg and apt are older than the blootbot sf project... |
| 08:36.58 | TimRiker | well, apt isn't anymore. ;-) |
| 08:37.06 | dondelelcaro | well, the original bots. |
| 08:37.15 | TimRiker | oh, you mean they have been around that long. nod. |
| 08:38.03 | TimRiker | did dpkg and apt share a source tree or were they always patched individually? |
| 08:38.41 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: once the sf project came about, they used the same source tree, but there are things that have diverged... |
| 08:39.31 | dondelelcaro | things like support for WWW::Scraper, $nick interpolation, and a few other things... |
| 08:41.19 | TimRiker | well, let's merge 'em back. ;-) |
| 08:41.54 | dondelelcaro | heh. probably a good idea, but I'm more interested in getting the total rewrite working... |
| 08:42.14 | dondelelcaro | takes a bit of effort to get the patches into manageable pieces that can be applied... |
| 08:43.35 | dondelelcaro | but the major ones are in that blootbot directory... |
| 08:43.49 | TimRiker | I'm fine with someone working on a rewrite. I won't be too active on one though. I have too many OS projects as it is. ;-) |
| 08:44.15 | dondelelcaro | oh, doesn't matter. Its much easier at this stage to do it as one person... |
| 08:44.26 | dondelelcaro | will be nice to have people assisting with their own features later. |
| 08:45.01 | TimRiker | http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/blootbot/ yes? I'm getting server error there now. |
| 08:45.22 | TimRiker | look at supybot if you have not already. |
| 08:45.46 | TimRiker | interesting features like an output filter and command nesting. |
| 08:46.32 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: yeah, I'm upgrading apache on that box right now... should be working shortly... |
| 08:46.49 | TimRiker | so you can do things like: rot13 [freshmeat] |
| 08:47.00 | dondelelcaro | !rot13 freshmeat |
| 08:47.00 | dpkg | serfuzrng |
| 08:47.11 | TimRiker | and get: |
| 08:47.29 | TimRiker | well, ok... rot13 [slashdot] |
| 08:47.35 | TimRiker | apt: slashdot |
| 08:47.39 | dondelelcaro | oh, you mean to patch the slashdot command through it... |
| 08:47.44 | TimRiker | rot13 Slashdot Headlines (9 shown; 10 total): Mars Rovers On Final Approach ;; Konqueror Compiled For OS X, KOffice Next ;; E-Voting Firm VoteHere Discloses October Break-In ;; PCLinuxOS 2K4: Mandrake Meets The Live CD ;; OnStar Considered Harmful ;; The Expensive Hobby Of Kite Aerial Photography ;; 10 Ads The US Won't See ;; Mars Crater Theory Tries To Explain Missing Beagle ;; Embedded Linux VPN Router Near Release. |
| 08:47.47 | dondelelcaro | pretty usefull... |
| 08:47.56 | TimRiker | apt: rot13 Slashdot Headlines (9 shown; 10 total): Mars Rovers On Final Approach ;; Konqueror Compiled For OS X, KOffice Next ;; E-Voting Firm VoteHere Discloses October Break-In ;; PCLinuxOS 2K4: Mandrake Meets The Live CD ;; OnStar Considered Harmful ;; The Expensive Hobby Of Kite Aerial Photography ;; 10 Ads The US Won't See ;; Mars Crater Theory Tries To Explain Missing Beagle ;; Embedded Linux VPN Router Near Release. |
| 08:47.56 | | Fynfuqbg Urnqyvarf (9 fubja; 10 gbgny): Znef Ebiref Ba Svany Nccebnpu ;; Xbadhrebe Pbzcvyrq Sbe BF K, XBssvpr Arkg ;; R-Ibgvat Svez IbgrUrer Qvfpybfrf Bpgbore Oernx-Va ;; CPYvahkBF 2X4: Znaqenxr Zrrgf Gur Yvir PQ ;; BaFgne Pbafvqrerq Unezshy ;; Gur Rkcrafvir Ubool Bs Xvgr Nrevny Cubgbtencul ;; 10 Nqf Gur HF Jba'g Frr ;; Znef Pengre Gurbel Gevrf Gb Rkcynva Zvffvat Orntyr ;; Rzorqqrq Yvahk ICA Ebhgre Arne Eryrnfr. |
| 08:48.03 | TimRiker | yeah. stuff like that. |
| 08:48.41 | TimRiker | he has a generic rss module so then you can add "slashdot is [rss http://slashdot.org/slash.rss] or whatever. |
| 08:49.17 | TimRiker | or slashdotjp is [x en jp [rss http://slashdot.org/slash.rss]] |
| 08:49.37 | TimRiker | etc |
| 08:50.24 | TimRiker | his praises and larts on in a table which is a Good Thing. they are not populated by default which is a Bad Thing. |
| 08:51.15 | TimRiker | so I don't like everything about supybot, but it is fairly clean (python) and modular code, with useful ideas. |
| 08:52.31 | TimRiker | well. must sleep. patches welcome. ;-) |
| 09:25.20 | simonrvn | @+slashdot |
| 09:25.24 | ravenbird | Slashdot Headlines (10 shown): Mars Rovers On Final Approach ;; Konqueror Compiled For OS X, KOffice Next ;; E-Voting Firm VoteHere Discloses October Break-In ;; PCLinuxOS 2K4: Mandrake Meets The Live CD ;; OnStar Considered Harmful ;; The Expensive Hobby Of Kite Aerial Photography ;; 10 Ads The US Won't See ;; Mars Crater Theory Tries To Explain Missing Beagle ;; Embedded Linux VPN Router Near Release ;; Israel's Finance Ministry To Distribute OpenOffice |
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