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17:38.13*** topic/#debian-bots is Welcome to #debian-bots. Please don't abuse them. || blootbot patch for DBI persistence available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/blootbot/dbi_persistence.diff (usefull if your DBI connection is going away, like dpkg's was) || People who are using my (dondelelcaro's) W3Scraper.pl patches want a new version of Google.pm at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/blootbot/Google.pm; stick it in /usr/share/perl5/WWW/Scraper/Google.pm
20:10.08*** join/#debian-bots dash (washort@68.220.225.100)
20:10.11dashapt, country gs?
20:10.17Country codes are at http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/websoft/wwwstat/country-codes.txt
20:10.18dashapt, .gs?
20:10.22bugger all, i dunno, dash
20:10.32dashapt: you're no fun these days
20:10.36dash: I wish you would RTFM.
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20:11.20g4ltapt gs
20:11.2265USD /phone  email to voipsales@xvoip.com
20:11.39g4ltapt factinfo gs
20:11.40gs -- last modified at Tue Dec  9 00:29:17 2003 by doughecka!~rooot@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net; it has been requested 5 times, last by g4lt, 18s ago.
20:12.26g4ltuhm, dondelelcaro would you do me a favor and ban doughecka.  convincing channelbots to spam is NOT acceptable IMO
20:13.47g4ltapt no, gs is South Georgia and the South Sandwich islands
20:13.49g4lt: okay
20:14.01g4ltapt gs is also ghostscript
20:14.03okay, g4lt
20:14.53g4ltdpkg gs
20:14.54dpkgwell, gs is The Linux Installation and Getting Started guide can be found at http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/gs/gs.html
20:16.07g4ltsimonrvn ^^^
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20:16.48g4ltI can nuke him here, I was thinking of #debian
20:16.57simonrvnnp
20:17.11*** mode/#debian-bots [+b doughecka!*@adsl-*.lou.bluegrass.net] by simonrvn
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20:17.57g4ltapt listauth doughecka
20:18.00factoid author list by 'doughecka' (15 shown; 49 total): k.e.r.g.o.t.h. ;; long distance provider #DEL# ;; forums ;; ragnrok ;; dacs #DEL# ;; CMD: many (.*?) ;; stat ;; bluegrassnet ;; xvoip ;; CMD: meepgun (.*?) ;; blitzrage ;; ldp ;; cables ;; patlabor221 #DEL# ;; bzbbb #DEL#.
20:18.14simonrvnfucker
20:18.18g4ltapt forget forums
20:18.18i forgot forums, g4lt
20:18.32g4ltapt forget ragnrok
20:18.32i forgot ragnrok, g4lt
20:18.40g4ltapt forget xvoip
20:18.40i forgot xvoip, g4lt
20:19.39g4ltapt no, ldp is http://ibiblio.org  RTFM here
20:19.41okay, g4lt
20:19.48g4ltapt forget cables
20:19.48i forgot cables, g4lt
20:19.52simonrvn@+ldp
20:19.53ravenbird[ldp] Linux Documentation Project -- http://www.linuxdoc.org/ or at http://ldp.nllgg.nl
20:20.01simonrvnhrm
20:20.05g4ltapt forget ldp
20:20.20g4ltgah, now it's too old :(
20:20.31g4ltah well, mine works in a pinch
20:20.34simonrvn@ldp =~ s/linuxdoc/tldp/
20:20.35ravenbirdOK, simonrvn
20:20.38simonrvn@+ldp
20:20.38ravenbirdrumour has it, ldp is Linux Documentation Project -- http://www.tldp.org/ or at http://ldp.nllgg.nl
20:21.00g4lt-apt complained to me about abusing forget ;)
20:21.02simonrvnthe .nl one works too
20:21.06simonrvnheh
20:21.17g4ltapt forget blitzrage
20:21.18i forgot blitzrage, g4lt
20:21.43simonrvn@ldp =~ s#.nl#.nl/#
20:21.44ravenbirdOK, simonrvn
20:21.47simonrvn@+ldp
20:21.47ravenbirdsomebody said ldp was Linux Documentation Project -- http://www.tldp.org/ or at http://ldp.nl/lgg.nl
20:21.50g4ltapt gorget k.e.r.g.o.t.h.
20:21.52no idea, g4lt
20:21.52simonrvnfuck
20:22.00g4ltapt forget k.e.r.g.o.t.h.
20:22.00g4lt: i forgot k.e.r.g.o.t.h.
20:22.13g4ltnow apt's ignoring me for abuse :(
20:22.36simonrvn@ldp =~ s#http://ldp.nl/lgg.nl#http://ldp.nllgg.nl/#
20:22.37ravenbirdsimonrvn: OK
20:22.40simonrvn@+ldp
20:22.40ravenbirdrumour has it, ldp is Linux Documentation Project -- http://www.tldp.org/ or at http://ldp.nllgg.nl/
20:22.56g4lt-sb100apt listauth doughecka
20:22.58factoid author list by 'doughecka' (15 shown; 48 total): forums #DEL# ;; who ;; dragon.org ;; stats ;; doc ;; my friend #DEL# ;; sus #del# ;; cables #DEL# ;; stat ;; long distance provider #DEL# ;; CMD: many (.*?) ;; dacs #DEL# ;; bzdougs birthday ;; wirelesscards ;; bzbbbb.
20:23.04simonrvn~listauth doughecka
20:23.07factoid author list by 'doughecka' (15 shown; 48 total): bzbbb #DEL# ;; CMD: many (.*?) ;; CMD: meepgun (.*?) ;; meepdie ;; doc #DEL# ;; patlabor221 #DEL# ;; CMD: nuke (.*?) ;; cables #DEL# ;; forums #DEL# ;; who ;; santaa ;; bluegrassnet ;; sussudiooooo ;; dragon.org ;; usefull.
20:23.28simonrvnapt cables
20:23.30i haven't a clue, simonrvn
20:23.36g4ltI swear, I'm'a gonna beat doughecka
20:23.43simonrvnapt who
20:23.45This bot was generated by a Barrel of Trained Elephants for simonrvn .
20:23.58simonrvnapt forget who
20:23.58simonrvn: i forgot who
20:24.00g4lt-sb100apt dragon.org
20:24.20simonrvnapt CMD: nuke (.*?)
20:24.22CMD: nuke (.*?) is, like, ($1): <reply> nukes $1 with a single large nuke
20:24.29simonrvnapt forget CMD: nuke (.*?)
20:24.30simonrvn: i forgot CMD: nuke (.*?)
20:24.33g4lt-sb100hmmmm, looks like apt's self-repairing
20:24.42dondelelcarog4lt-sb100: you can ban them...
20:24.45simonrvnprobably the db
20:25.02simonrvnapt bluegrassnet
20:25.09bluegrassnet is, like, a multi-homed regional ISP with direct 45 mbps+ PPP connections to: Cable & Wireless, AT&T, Qwest, and a direct fiber connection Kentucky's largest and most prestigious data center: Xodiax. BluegrassNet maintains full BGP4 external sessions run through multiple 7500-class Cisco Routers
20:25.17simonrvnapt forget bluegrassnet
20:25.18simonrvn: i forgot bluegrassnet
20:25.28simonrvnapt usefull
20:25.33ACTION is very usefull
20:25.33g4ltdondelelcaro I meant in #debian.  I can ban him here, I just doubted he did his damage here
20:25.33dondelelcarog4lt-sb100: you and simonrvn should be +o on this channel... ;-)
20:25.45simonrvnapt forget usefull
20:25.46i forgot usefull, simonrvn
20:26.00g4ltspeaking of which....
20:26.01simonrvnfu too apt :)
20:29.21g4ltspeaking of which, dondelelcaro could you do like a feature request for an authclean function that takes out a whole author?
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20:29.42simonrvn_~listauth doughecka
20:29.44factoid author list by 'doughecka' (15 shown; 48 total): asgard ;; my friend #DEL# ;; stat ;; dacs #DEL# ;; k.e.r.g.o.t.h. #DEL# ;; xvoip #DEL# ;; voicepulse ;; brc007 ;; patlabor221 #DEL# ;; bzbbb #DEL# ;; CMD: killl (.*?) #DEL# ;; cables #DEL# ;; bzdougs birthday ;; usefull #DEL# ;; who #DEL#.
20:29.59simonrvn_~voicepulse
20:30.03http://www.voicepulse.com/kb/index.php?page=index_v2&id=45&c=11
20:30.10simonrvn_~forget voicepulse
20:30.11i forgot voicepulse, simonrvn_
20:30.24g4lt-sb100~stat
20:30.26http://www.tric.nl/~cg/asterisk.html
20:30.35g4lt-sb100~forget stat
20:30.35g4lt-sb100: i forgot stat
20:30.48dondelelcarog4lt: probably should...
20:31.16simonrvn_~listauth doughecka
20:31.18factoid author list by 'doughecka' (15 shown; 48 total): bluegrassnet #DEL# ;; asgard ;; nufone ;; stat #DEL# ;; dacs #DEL# ;; forums #DEL# ;; mishehu #DEL# ;; k.e.r.g.o.t.h. #DEL# ;; CMD: many (.*?) ;; wirelesscards ;; booyea ;; brc007 ;; meepdie ;; bzdougs birthday ;; patlabor221 #DEL#.
20:31.33simonrvn_apt forget wirelesscards
20:31.33i forgot wirelesscards, simonrvn_
20:31.53simonrvn_apt CMD: many (.*?)
20:31.55hmm... CMD: many (.*?) is ($1): <action> beats $1 with many a stick
20:31.55g4ltyou'd have to put some kind of check so that malicious people can't use it to forget real contributions, but that's sort of doable now
20:32.10simonrvn_apt forget CMD: many (.*?)
20:32.10simonrvn_: i forgot CMD: many (.*?)
20:32.18simonrvn_apt booyea
20:32.20ACTION yells BOOYEAAAAA!!!
20:32.35simonrvn_apt forget booyea
20:32.35i forgot booyea, simonrvn_
20:32.52simonrvnapt brc007
20:32.54ACTION kicks simonrvn 's butt
20:33.04simonrvnlame...
20:33.10simonrvnapt forget brc007
20:33.10simonrvn: i forgot brc007
20:33.35simonrvn~listauth doughecka
20:33.37factoid author list by 'doughecka' (15 shown; 48 total): long distance provider #DEL# ;; blitzrage #DEL# ;; wirelesscards #DEL# ;; patlabor221 #DEL# ;; sus #del# ;; stealth_man ;; brc007 #DEL# ;; sussudiooooo ;; stat #DEL# ;; CMD: nuke (.*?) #DEL# ;; usefull #DEL# ;; meepdie ;; dragon.org ;; stealth_man #DEL# ;; ragnrok #DEL#.
20:33.51g4ltpart of this is it looks as if doughecka made trivial changes to other factoids to throw us off :(
20:34.02simonrvnapt stealthman
20:34.05simonrvn: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
20:34.11simonrvnapt stealth_man
20:34.13ACTION kicks simonrvn , hes http://www.xvoip.com dork!
20:34.32g4lt-sb100~sussudioooo
20:34.34methinks sussudioooo is the cow that went oink
20:34.38simonrvn_apt forget stealth_man
20:34.39simonrvn_: i forgot stealth_man
20:34.48g4ltsussudio stays ;P
20:35.13g4lt-sb100~listauth doughecka
20:35.18factoid author list by 'doughecka' (15 shown; 47 total): digium ;; stats ;; long distance provider #DEL# ;; CMD: killl (.*?) #DEL# ;; bzbbbb ;; bzbbb #DEL# ;; pigfart ;; CMD: many (.*?) #DEL# ;; stat #DEL# ;; forums #DEL# ;; xvoip #DEL# ;; brygen #DEL# ;; nufone ;; doc ;; booyea #DEL#.
20:35.26g4lt-sb100~digium
20:35.28http://www.digium.com
20:35.38g4lt-sb100~forget digium
20:35.38g4lt-sb100: i forgot digium
20:35.47g4lt-sb100~doc
20:35.49Documentation and many links to 3rd party documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation
20:36.11g4lt-sb100dare I?
20:36.55g4lt-sb100apt forget doc
20:36.55i forgot doc, g4lt-sb100
20:37.04g4lt-sb100we can clean up later
20:37.12g4lt-sb100apt forget nufone
20:37.12g4lt-sb100: i forgot nufone
20:37.31g4ltapt listauth doughecka
20:38.40g4ltcool, doughecka's been banned from every channel apt's in
20:38.47g4lt(palmchat's mine)
20:39.14g4lt-sb100~listauth doughecka
20:39.16factoid author list by 'doughecka' (15 shown; 46 total): blitzrage #DEL# ;; santaa ;; pinky ;; xvoip #DEL# ;; CMD: killl (.*?) #DEL# ;; long distance provider #DEL# ;; patlabor221 #DEL# ;; dragon.org ;; bzflagcvs ;; dacs #DEL# ;; bzbbb #DEL# ;; stat #DEL# ;; sussudiooooo ;; booyea #DEL# ;; nufone #DEL#.
20:39.34g4lt-sb100~bzflagcvs
20:39.36cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v1_7 bzflag
20:39.36simonrvn-apt forget dragon.org
20:39.37simonrvn-: i forgot dragon.org
20:39.48g4lt-sb100~listauth doughecka
20:39.50factoid author list by 'doughecka' (15 shown; 46 total): sugar1 ;; stats ;; pinky ;; sussudiooooo ;; patlabor221 #DEL# ;; long distance provider #DEL# ;; dragon.org #DEL# ;; digium #DEL# ;; bzdougs birthday ;; pigfart ;; attack ;; dect ;; santaa ;; blitzrage #DEL# ;; CMD: many (.*?) #DEL#.
20:39.55simonrvn-now it's ignoring me :(
20:40.01g4lt-sb100~stats
20:40.05Since Fri Jan 23 17:10:39 2004, there have been 24 modifications, 29 questions, 8 dunnos, 0 morons and 24 commands.  I have been awake for 3h 29m 22s this session, and currently reference 106289 factoids.  I'm using about 12588 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 291.89/45.53 child 4.05/0.56
20:40.17g4lt-sb100~literal stats
20:40.22stats is <reply> http://www.tric.nl/~cg/asterisk.html
20:40.38g4lt-sb100~pinky
20:40.40And what are we going to do tomorrow night, Pinky?
20:40.52g4lt-sb100~sugar1
20:40.54Sugar seen ibot
20:41.28g4lt-sb100~santaa
20:41.30santa <~jupiter@12-253-125-169.client.attbi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #picogui, 161d 19h 48m 25s ago, saying: 'file: yeah, but i did it fedex, so it won't show up until april'.
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20:41.57g4lt-sb100~forget stats
20:41.57g4lt-sb100: i forgot stats
20:42.05g4lt-sb100bye, apt
20:42.21g4lt-sb100not yet ;)
20:42.35simonrvni'm going to permban that fuckhead
20:42.45g4lt-sb100~listauth doughecka
20:42.47factoid author list by 'doughecka' (15 shown; 46 total): usefull #DEL# ;; stat #DEL# ;; pigfart ;; voicepulse #DEL# ;; pinky ;; sussudiooooo ;; who #DEL# ;; CMD: killl (.*?) #DEL# ;; bzflagcvs ;; brc007 #DEL# ;; santaa ;; CMD: nuke (.*?) #DEL# ;; doc #DEL# ;; dect ;; patlabor221 #DEL#.
20:42.58g4lt-sb100we've got enough to get him a K-line IMO
20:43.03simonrvnyeh, apt's cleaning up its db
20:43.07simonrvnyes
20:43.20simonrvnapt dect
20:43.22Digital European Cordless Telecommunications (telecommunication) [source: V.E.R.A.]
20:44.14g4lt@staff should be stopping in shortly
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20:44.56g4lt-sb100~listauth doughecka
20:44.58factoid author list by 'doughecka' (15 shown; 46 total): patlabor221 #DEL# ;; pigfart ;; k.e.r.g.o.t.h. #DEL# ;; dragon.org #DEL# ;; dect ;; ragnrok #DEL# ;; attack ;; voicepulse #DEL# ;; meepdie ;; pinky ;; wirelesscards #DEL# ;; nufone #DEL# ;; digium #DEL# ;; who #DEL# ;; my friend #DEL#.
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20:46.09g4lt-sb100~listauth doughecka
20:46.11factoid author list by 'doughecka' (15 shown; 46 total): patlabor221 #DEL# ;; usefull #DEL# ;; bzflagcvs ;; CMD: many (.*?) #DEL# ;; blitzrage #DEL# ;; stats #DEL# ;; long distance provider #DEL# ;; stealth_man #DEL# ;; my friend #DEL# ;; CMD: killl (.*?) #DEL# ;; who #DEL# ;; ragnrok #DEL# ;; nufone #DEL# ;; pigfart ;; CMD: nuke (.*?) #DEL#.
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20:46.37g4lt-sb100~unforget long distance provider
20:46.37g4lt-sb100: cannot undeleted 'long distance provider' because it already exists!
20:46.53g4lt-sb100~long distance provider
20:46.55http://www.stealthtele.com     http://www.nufone.net      http://connect.voicepulse.com
20:47.05simonrvngrr
20:47.10g4lt-sb100good, let's not lose that one.  it's the example
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20:47.31g4lt-sb100~factinfo long distance provider
20:47.31long distance provider -- last modified at Tue Nov  4 00:39:31 2003 by doughecka!~rooot@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net; it has been requested 7 times, last by g4lt-sb100, 36s ago.
20:47.37simonrvnfucking lame using a channel bot to spam
20:47.45g4lt-sb100dmwaters, perfect!
20:48.02g4lt-sb100evidence to follow
20:48.07g4lt-sb100~long distance provider
20:48.09http://www.stealthtele.com     http://www.nufone.net      http://connect.voicepulse.com
20:48.12g4lt-sb100~factinfo long distance provider
20:48.12long distance provider -- last modified at Tue Nov  4 00:39:31 2003 by doughecka!~rooot@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net; it has been requested 8 times, last by g4lt-sb100, 3s ago.
20:48.26IRKempowtf?
20:48.28g4lt-sb100he did this to forty-some factoids
20:48.37simonrvn48ish
20:48.42dmwatershrm, that's an issue for who ever owns apt
20:49.01g4lt-sb100we're asking for a K-line on him, please
20:49.11dmwatersI'd suggest that who ever owns apt makes it a bit more dificult to add stuff like that
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20:49.37g4lt-sb100we're cleaning up, but it's still wrong to let this go
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20:50.11g4lt-sb100this is indicative of long-term spamming
20:50.12dmwaterswho's responsible for apt
20:50.34dmwatersthey're gonna have to be the one to clean the bot up
20:50.49g4lt-sb100timriker mostly owns him, but simonrvn, myself, and dondelelcaro do most of the minor maintenance
20:51.05g4lt-sb100since we own friendlybots to it
20:51.15dmwaterscan you guys clean it up then?
20:51.35simonrvnwe have been
20:51.45dmwatersand are there ways to restrict the access levels so there isn't a reapeat of this?
20:52.09dmwatersthat's gonna be your main problem right there
20:52.27dmwaterswhat's to stop someone from doing it again
20:53.33g4lt-sb100unfortunately, we cn't get too fine-grained: basically, it's either restrict everybody or nobody
20:54.01g4lt-sb100we can do things with a configuration file, but it's severely undertested
20:54.14dmwatersg4lt-sb100: well, you can restrict  adding facts to just maintainers, right?
20:54.27g4lt-sb100in fact, the default person in said config file is still asuffield ;)
20:54.36simonrvnnot mine
20:54.47simonrvni changed that part
20:55.11g4lt-sb100you took out the "asuffield file" entirely, simonrvn?
20:55.22simonrvnno, changed it so it'd be me instead
20:55.23dmwaterswhat I'm getting at, is that right now, 100 people could add about 50 facts, and you'd be cleaning it up forever
20:55.53dmwatersmeaning, one person has figured out how to abuse the bot, others probably will soon enough
20:55.57g4lt-sb100especially if it takes pulling teeth to get offenders k-lined
20:56.40dmwatersg4lt-sb100: well, I can get rid of him easily enough, but you guys need to take some seciruty steps to secure that function, to
20:56.47dmwaterserr, security
20:59.19g4lt-sb100well, I just made a feature request to enable quick cleanup, and we're going to have to put that on an ACL anyway
21:00.06g4lt-sb100I'd have to play with the code, bit I THINK I can see a way to make special people only able to author like more than 20 factoids
21:00.52g4lt-sb100and I HOPE  we can do it versus the database instead of the config gile
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21:09.52dmwaterswait....doughecka is idle for 17 hours
21:10.18dmwaterswhen did you guys notice this?
21:10.37simonrvnnot too long ago
21:12.28simonrvnwe started cleaning up as soon as we found out
21:13.12g4ltand now apt is autoignoring four of our nicks :/
21:13.24dmwatersI'm not sure how much I can do after this long accept wait for him to come back, and talk to him
21:13.36g4ltbecause theere IS a bit of security on forget :(
21:13.52dmwaterscan't you restart the bot, or fix that?
21:14.04dmwatersand shouldn't it not ignore admins?
21:14.53g4ltto restart the bot, we need access to the computer it's on, which is bzflag's (timriker)
21:15.07Geertg4lt: I'm looking at you code, and I see a privilege system in the Factoids code, why isn't that enabled?
21:15.22GeertAnd you can easily build in an admin flag to prevent being ignored
21:15.49GeertYou have a host privilege feature and a flag privilege feature
21:15.56g4lt1) it isn't MY code, it's asuffield and dondelelcaro's, and 2) basically, this is the first time in recent memory this has happened
21:16.35g4ltsimonrvn and myself are users with aspirations ;)
21:16.42simonrvnhehe
21:16.44Geertg4lt: Condidering the big amount of users using the bot, the privilege feature *should* be enabled
21:17.13g4ltGeert it probably will, once we talk with bzflag
21:18.05GeertIt 'will be', but why hasn't it?
21:18.13dmwatersg4lt-sb100:  in the mean time, I'd suggest disabling that option till some access thing can be fixed/set up to stop it from happening again
21:18.35GeertReading the comments in the source code I see things like XML backdoor injection, with proper privileges such things can easily be avoided
21:18.46dmwatersg4lt-sb100:  if others find out about this bug, you're gonna have a mess on your hands if they decide to abuse it
21:18.50g4ltGeert mostly because of inertia
21:19.08g4ltdmwaters welcome to the land of security holes :(
21:19.11GeertBtw, why aren't the modules called .pm! Any good reason for that?
21:19.28g4ltask dondelelcaro, I'd presume.
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21:20.16GeertAnyway, you can easily unload that module so apt stays online and the bug injection will be prevented
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21:27.39Geert*poke* g4lt
21:27.44GeertWhat about just unloading it...
21:28.02g4lton a machine that none of us has a login on?