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| 06:22.15 | cat | hey mr dondelelcaro how you been? |
| 06:22.22 | dondelelcaro | busy... |
| 06:22.30 | cat | oh nice can i ask u a quick question? |
| 06:22.35 | cat | how long have you been using Debian? |
| 06:23.50 | dondelelcaro | um... a while now... probably 8 years or so? |
| 06:24.07 | cat | oh nice, how did you learn so much about it, |
| 06:24.11 | dondelelcaro | rr... nah, maybe only 7 now |
| 06:24.12 | cat | i want to learn exactly the same as you ;P |
| 06:24.24 | dondelelcaro | just doing stuff... that's the only way to really learn |
| 06:24.36 | cat | doing stuff like? |
| 06:25.21 | dondelelcaro | programming, packaging stuff, reading documentation, following along on IRC... |
| 06:25.49 | cat | which is the easiest language ever i'm a total new on programming |
| 06:26.38 | dondelelcaro | dunno... I learned basic on an Apple IIe ages ago... then pascal, then C, then php, then perl... dunno what's right for you |
| 06:26.52 | cat | how about python |
| 06:27.02 | cat | i have some books here learning pearl but pearl is way to hard for me, |
| 06:27.08 | cat | and i have some c# for dummies |
| 06:27.49 | dondelelcaro | if you like python, go right ahead |
| 06:28.14 | dondelelcaro | a language is just a minor part... the main thing is actually learning how to program |
| 06:37.24 | cat | true, |
| 06:37.28 | cat | that's the thing i forget too easily |
| 06:49.22 | cat | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:51.13 | dondelelcaro | on how to learn? best way is just to find some small project that you're interested in and get started |
| 06:51.25 | dondelelcaro | the smaller the better. |
| 06:53.16 | cat | oh like, |
| 06:53.33 | cat | i want to help out Debian you know to patches but if i don't know any languages i can't do patches |
| 07:11.44 | dondelelcaro | well, that's a big project. Choose something really small for your first steps |
| 07:11.57 | dondelelcaro | (there are small parts to Debian, btw) |
| 07:12.58 | cat | like |
| 07:18.41 | dondelelcaro | all sorts of things... |
| 07:19.01 | cat | well there should be an example so i can star some where, |
| 07:19.14 | cat | i want to star with python and then moved on to perl |
| 07:20.08 | dondelelcaro | look at the packages that you use, and check their bugs at bugs.debian.org/<packagename> |
| 07:20.41 | dondelelcaro | or http://www.debian.org/devel/todo/ |
| 07:21.58 | cat | oh i like xchat, and bitchx |
| 07:23.03 | dondelelcaro | well, there are probably smaller packages than that... dunno. It's different for everyone. |
| 07:23.26 | cat | damn if i just can find the right package will be greeat |
| 07:25.34 | cat | what can i do to write documents? |
| 07:26.30 | cat | how can i put them on debian.org? |
| 07:30.19 | dondelelcaro | depends on which documents... see the www.debian.org package etc |
| 07:30.52 | cat | like let's say a doc about Debian, or something |
| 07:30.56 | cat | do u need to have a sponsor? |
| 07:31.12 | dondelelcaro | you'd need one, yes... but you can make patches to pre-existing documentatin... |
| 07:31.17 | dondelelcaro | that's what I'd suggest starting with... |
| 07:31.33 | cat | yeah but how can i make patches if i don't know how to code? |
| 07:31.51 | dondelelcaro | for documentation... not code |
| 07:32.06 | cat | oh ok, |
| 07:33.13 | cat | damn i want to star some where but i don't know where to star too much chatting that sux |
| 07:33.17 | cat | and too lazy to read |
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