| 00:00.11 | madness | cafuego: sorry - it didn't click "this morning" as it was early evening for me :P |
| 00:00.22 | cafuego | madness: You're in the wrong tiemzone then ;-) |
| 00:00.54 | madness | cafuego: heheheh. how can I be in the wrong timezone when everybody elses time is based on a - or + value of my time ? :PPPP |
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| 00:01.21 | cafuego | madness: Surely you would live in GMT and not UTC? |
| 00:01.23 | davis_ | hello |
| 00:01.24 | simonrvn | jeu jan 8 00:01:23 UTC 2004 |
| 00:01.42 | cafuego | Thu Jan 8 11:01:26 EST 2004 |
| 00:01.55 | davis_ | im having trouble with xf86config, is there a simpler way to setup basic X windows? |
| 00:01.55 | madness | Thu Jan 8 00:02:30 GMT 2004 |
| 00:01.59 | madness | true |
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| 00:02.05 | De_Mon | davis_ edit it by hand |
| 00:02.11 | De_Mon | davis_ oh wait.. nm |
| 00:02.12 | ddent | image doesnt burn right or something |
| 00:02.14 | madness | but they're the same thing for all intents and purposes. |
| 00:02.16 | ddent | not recognized by machine |
| 00:02.20 | ddent | slackware's is fine |
| 00:02.20 | LSorensen | ok someone's time is wrong |
| 00:02.26 | cafuego | madness: One doesn't have daylight savings |
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| 00:02.29 | bjbL | partitioning my hard disk (scsi, for sun ultra 1): I have a Fujitsu disk and must enter the heads/cylinders... It asks how many sectors/track? Web site says Model MAE 3091LC has "280 - 425 sectors/track". Tried entering 280 s/track, with 145 "additional" but it says HD size is 6.something GB and it's supposed to be 9.1 GB. Any suggestions? |
| 00:02.40 | madness | cafuego: that's BST, not GMT ;) |
| 00:02.47 | LSorensen | I think cafuego wins the time is off the most award |
| 00:02.47 | MikeH | anyone know anything about HD-BURN cdwriters? apparently it can record double the capacity of a cd-r |
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| 00:03.06 | cafuego | LSorensen: Nah |
| 00:03.07 | bjbL | oh no, laptop battery is dying... |
| 00:03.07 | madness | LSorensen: mine, I think. I've got horrid clock-drift on this box at the moment |
| 00:03.20 | simonrvn | madness: yeh you,re off by about a minute |
| 00:03.29 | cafuego | LSorensen: Mine's only off by a few seconds |
| 00:03.32 | LSorensen | bjbL: enter the logical not physical info. It has a varying number of sectors per track, but the systems should just use the amount it pretends to have |
| 00:03.39 | Kel | oh god |
| 00:03.40 | LSorensen | cafuego: It is NOT 11:00 EST right now |
| 00:03.41 | madness | LSorensen: I lost like 5 minutes in a week from an NTP sync not so long ago |
| 00:03.41 | cafuego | Thu Jan 8 11:03:40 EST 2004 |
| 00:03.42 | Kel | someone here be witty |
| 00:03.44 | Kel | what do you do |
| 00:03.49 | Kel | when you accidentalyl tell your best friend |
| 00:03.49 | simonrvn | gotta consider lag, and network, etc. but yeh about a min. |
| 00:03.52 | Kel | that everyone in the world |
| 00:03.53 | davis_ | De_Mon frequently, i use the setup program to get a base config file and then i tweak it by hand. However, I got new ati video card and that approach is not working. |
| 00:04.00 | Kel | expects his first relationship to die faster than the titanic? |
| 00:04.00 | cafuego | LSorensen: Yes, it is. |
| 00:04.03 | LSorensen | cafuego: is EST something other that what I think it is? |
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| 00:04.16 | cafuego | LSorensen: What makes you think that I live in _YOUR_ EST? |
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| 00:04.20 | Kel | god i'm dead |
| 00:04.25 | Psycho_pr | Hi. |
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| 00:04.27 | bancus | Easter Standard Time? |
| 00:04.29 | LSorensen | cafuego: how many could there be? |
| 00:04.31 | madness | Kel: for a start, you would put a sentence on one line :P |
| 00:04.31 | LSorensen | Wed Jan 7 19:04:14 EST 2004 |
| 00:04.33 | bancus | +n |
| 00:04.34 | simonrvn | several |
| 00:04.37 | cafuego | LSorensen: Well, at least two eh? |
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| 00:04.43 | The_Vulture | LSorensen: east.. think about it? |
| 00:04.43 | bancus | I thought they had to have unique acronyms. |
| 00:04.45 | The_Vulture | it's not one place |
| 00:04.46 | Kel | YEa I know, sorry |
| 00:04.49 | The_Vulture | it's rather relative.. |
| 00:04.50 | LSorensen | cafuego: someone should have picked a different name for one of them |
| 00:04.51 | Kel | I'm just freaking out |
| 00:04.57 | Kel | I keep getting beeps in that room, and I don't watn to look |
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| 00:05.06 | The_Vulture | hehe |
| 00:05.16 | simonrvn | or west, depending on how you look at it ;) |
| 00:05.19 | cafuego | LSorensen: Hey I'm not the one living on the WESTern hemisphere ;-) |
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| 00:05.38 | madness | "western hemisphere" ? ummmm.... |
| 00:05.46 | bancus | I'm guessing austrailia. |
| 00:05.53 | bjbL | LSorensen, thanks, how do I know what the logical sectors/track is? |
| 00:05.54 | LSorensen | cafuego: zoneinfo doesn't know about any other EST |
| 00:05.56 | bancus | It's five hours before me. |
| 00:06.01 | madness | should be fun |
| 00:06.01 | LSorensen | bjbL: what was the model again? |
| 00:06.05 | cafuego | LSorensen: How do you suppose mine is set? |
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| 00:06.23 | LSorensen | cafuego: beats me. What time zone did you select that shows as EST? |
| 00:06.34 | ddent | annoying as hell |
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| 00:06.38 | bjbL | LSorensen Fujitsu MAE 3091LC |
| 00:06.41 | bancus | LSorensen, try GMT + 11 |
| 00:06.41 | simonrvn | probably australian |
| 00:06.54 | cafuego | LSorensen: bancus +10, thanks. |
| 00:07.00 | bancus | is it? |
| 00:07.07 | cafuego | bancus: yep |
| 00:07.09 | bancus | something isn't right then |
| 00:07.17 | cafuego | LSorensen: Australia/Melbourne is EST. |
| 00:07.20 | bancus | Because I'm at 16:07 - 0800 |
| 00:07.23 | squibs | if you were to swap a motherboard out of a debian box would you have to reinstall? |
| 00:07.24 | simonrvn | several time zones in .au |
| 00:07.28 | bancus | oh, wait |
| 00:07.34 | bancus | the something that isn't right is my math ability |
| 00:07.36 | cafuego | bancus: DST here, not there. |
| 00:07.39 | simonrvn | squibs: uh, why? |
| 00:07.49 | davis_ | i'm not even sure why starting X is failing. |
| 00:07.50 | Justin_ | simonrvn: because windows does |
| 00:07.52 | bancus | er |
| 00:07.54 | squibs | simonrvn if the motherboard was faulty |
| 00:07.54 | bancus | or not |
| 00:08.04 | madness | squibs: probably not. |
| 00:08.05 | bancus | maybe I shouldn't go to work tonight |
| 00:08.13 | madness | squibs: most likely not. |
| 00:08.14 | simonrvn | squibs: no, why would you need to re-install for a mobo change? |
| 00:08.20 | cafuego | we have 3 time zones, +7, +9.5 and +10 |
| 00:08.23 | bancus | cafuego, when we change to daylight, we change the S to a D |
| 00:08.23 | davis_ | startx says Fatal server error: |
| 00:08.24 | djw | how the fuck are you meant to use sox |
| 00:08.30 | madness | squibs: you might possibly need to get a new kernel onto the box though |
| 00:08.31 | LSorensen | cafuego: wow that is just stupid. They use the same designation for two places. |
| 00:08.32 | davis_ | Module load failure |
| 00:08.34 | bancus | so PST is -0800, and PDT is -0700 |
| 00:08.42 | davis_ | but module? |
| 00:08.43 | LSorensen | cafuego: those unix people really weren't thinking |
| 00:08.46 | cafuego | bancus: We don't change the timezone name. |
| 00:08.48 | squibs | simonrvn I dont know ... i just imagined it might kernel panic when i booted |
| 00:08.49 | simonrvn | squibs: that new kernel is the most you'd have to do, like madness said |
| 00:08.57 | bancus | strange |
| 00:08.59 | squibs | thats good news |
| 00:09.03 | cafuego | LSorensen: it's not our fault you guys stole our timezone. |
| 00:09.04 | squibs | thanks guys |
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| 00:09.05 | lazarus | LSorensen: no, that local names happen to have the same letters is not stupid |
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| 00:09.11 | madness | cafuego: +9.5 ? I didn't know anyone did 1/2 hour timezones. |
| 00:09.13 | Gathond | squibs: it might .. but why would a panic mean a reinstall ? |
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| 00:09.24 | bancus | madness, nova scotia too |
| 00:09.26 | ljlane | djw, there should examples in the man page IIRV |
| 00:09.26 | simonrvn | madness: many do. newfoundland here for instance does |
| 00:09.27 | lazarus | LSorensen: using anything other than utc and expecting it to be Universal, *that* would be stupid |
| 00:09.32 | bancus | er, yeah |
| 00:09.33 | ljlane | s/V/C |
| 00:09.33 | bancus | that's the one |
| 00:09.34 | cafuego | madness: South Australia, Northern territory... India has one too. |
| 00:09.38 | madness | well well, you learn a new thing every day |
| 00:09.45 | bancus | I think there's somewhere in asia too. |
| 00:09.56 | djw | ljlane: the man page is very poor, it not clear at all |
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| 00:10.29 | simonrvn | jeu jan 8 00:10:26 UTC 2004 |
| 00:10.30 | bancus | Then there are the fun places that don't have daylight savings time while everyone around them does. |
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| 00:10.37 | pingouin | hello 2 all |
| 00:10.46 | bancus | Arizona doesn't for instance. |
| 00:10.48 | simonrvn | </aol> |
| 00:10.53 | bancus | So half of the year, we have the same time |
| 00:10.55 | ljlane | djw, maybe not then. What are you trying to do? |
| 00:11.00 | lazarus | bancus: daylight "savings" time is the ultimate n stuidity |
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| 00:11.06 | bancus | pingouin, I know who all is, but who is this 2 person? |
| 00:11.13 | Covener | lazarus: the extra 's' you mean? |
| 00:11.13 | bancus | lazarus, it is, indeed |
| 00:11.15 | lazarus | bancus: daylight "savings" time is the ultimate in stupidity (stupid kb) |
| 00:11.16 | squibs | OMG HI2u2! |
| 00:11.18 | simonrvn | saskatchewan has no daylight savings either |
| 00:11.42 | simonrvn | dst is a pita that should die |
| 00:11.46 | madness | yeah |
| 00:11.49 | madness | I think so too |
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| 00:12.53 | djw | ljlane: maybe sox isn't the right tool for the job, but record from line in and put the output into a fifo |
| 00:12.56 | LSorensen | bjbL: what system are you putting this drive in that wants you to tell it the HD info? |
| 00:13.04 | bjbL | LSorensen, is it reasonable to take the HD capacity, divide by number of cylinders and heads, and then by sector size to get logical sectors/track? |
| 00:13.13 | bjbL | LSorensen, Sun Ultra 1 3D Creator |
| 00:13.28 | bjbL | LSorensen, the number I get that way is 380 |
| 00:13.34 | bjbL | oops 370 |
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| 00:13.41 | Kel | yea, so the chosen fix for my situation has just been "not say anything in there for about an hour" |
| 00:13.43 | LSorensen | bjbL: well, I am not sure. My 12year old MIPS3000 decstation didn't even ask me when I installed debian on it |
| 00:13.46 | Kel | it's working alright so far. |
| 00:14.01 | LSorensen | bjbL: installing linux or solaris? |
| 00:14.08 | bjbL | LSorensen, the Sun had a list of about 12 or 16 known HDs and none were Fujitsu |
| 00:14.09 | ljlane | djw, hrmmm... ecasound should do it. Harsh learning curve though. Can't think of anything else offhand. |
| 00:14.13 | bjbL | LSorensen, Linux |
| 00:14.18 | bjbL | LSorensen, Debian :-) |
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| 00:14.30 | cafuego | ffs, it's summer!!! |
| 00:14.37 | bjbL | Debian 3.0 |
| 00:14.48 | bjbL | from cd |
| 00:14.48 | ljlane | djw, ermm... there's a record command somewhere |
| 00:15.00 | madness | cafuego: where are you in .au ? |
| 00:15.10 | LSorensen | bjbL: ok |
| 00:15.14 | lazarus | cafuego: Windchill -1°F -19°C |
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| 00:15.23 | djw | ljlane: I've tried rec, sound-recorder and rawrec, but I can't seem to make them work |
| 00:15.32 | cafuego | madness: Melbourne |
| 00:15.42 | cafuego | 16.5 bloddy degrees, in JANUARY!!! |
| 00:15.44 | somiaj_ | lazarus: hehe sounds like the weather here a few days ago, its snowing again so its up to about -2C |
| 00:15.46 | cafuego | it should be 40! |
| 00:16.12 | somiaj_ | cafuego: 40 is way to hot! imo..(: |
| 00:16.12 | madness | cafuego: nice. I'm out there at the back end of feb - I hope it doesn't get to 40 :P |
| 00:16.15 | ljlane | cafuego, break out the skis |
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| 00:16.54 | LSorensen | bjbL: I found one old solaris install post that suggest this: 10484 cylinders, 4 heads, 425 sectors which is 9125273600 bytes |
| 00:17.00 | djw | last time I was in Melbourne it wasn't that warm at this time of year |
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| 00:17.10 | bjbL | LSorensen, thanks |
| 00:17.17 | bjbL | I'll try it |
| 00:17.33 | cafuego | madness: End of feb? yes, it will. |
| 00:17.40 | LSorensen | bjbL: but it also says any combination that adds up to less that the geometry of the disk is fine. Does dmesg show anything about how many sectors the disk has total? |
| 00:18.10 | cafuego | madness: We get northern winds from the desert, strongs gusts full of dust (and bushfire smoke by then) of really HOT air. |
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| 00:18.14 | LSorensen | bjbL: if so just verify that the numbers multiply to no more than that |
| 00:18.15 | madness | cafuego: eek. |
| 00:18.23 | bjbL | LSorensen Hmm. I'll try to see. I've only booted into the cd install |
| 00:18.24 | cafuego | madness: That's when you go and stand in the bay for an hour every evening. |
| 00:18.28 | ljlane | djw, ecasound is flexible, though a bit complex. I had it recording on one card and playing to another through. It should do what you need. |
| 00:18.40 | ljlane | +alsa |
| 00:18.42 | madness | cafuego: a wingy pom like me will suffer, I think |
| 00:18.43 | hailstorm | Hi. How do I remove a kernel module from startup? |
| 00:19.05 | LSorensen | bjbL: it should still have dmesg |
| 00:19.16 | LSorensen | bjbL: try dmesg|grep sectors |
| 00:19.35 | comar | hailstorm: try modconf |
| 00:19.45 | hailstorm | k cheers |
| 00:19.46 | djw | ljlane: that sounds good |
| 00:20.09 | cafuego | madness: yep... |
| 00:20.09 | madness | cafuego: should have seen it here when we got up to 38 last year |
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| 00:20.21 | LSorensen | madness: so what is winter like? |
| 00:20.23 | TTimo | lo |
| 00:20.31 | cafuego | madness: There's it's humid heat though, here it's bone-dry |
| 00:20.36 | madness | cafuego: mind, you'll at least have decent air conditioning there |
| 00:20.41 | madness | cafuego: yes. muggy here |
| 00:20.46 | TTimo | I seem to remember word about test installer for sarge |
| 00:20.52 | TTimo | can anyone point me to it ? |
| 00:20.55 | cafuego | madness: I HATE humidity+heat but when it's dry it's fine. |
| 00:20.56 | LSorensen | cafuego: you mean it's nice heat? |
| 00:21.06 | madness | LSorensen: in the UK ? It's nothing that bad. |
| 00:21.12 | cafuego | LSorensen: No, it's still filthy, but noit AS filthy |
| 00:21.23 | LSorensen | madness: ah UK. Yeah more wet though I suspect :) |
| 00:21.49 | madness | LSorensen: most of the people in the UK whinge lots about the weather here, but it's not too bad really. We don't often get extremes that threaten lives, which is a blessing. |
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| 00:22.09 | madness | LSorensen: the odd hurricane or flood, but that's about it |
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| 00:22.12 | LSorensen | cafuego: Around here we get -20 to -40 dry winter at times and 30 to 35 with high humidity summers |
| 00:22.31 | madness | LSorensen: sounds like minnesota, I spent some time there. |
| 00:22.38 | LSorensen | madness: Toronto. |
| 00:22.49 | squibs | cafuego how hot does the outback get? |
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| 00:22.56 | LSorensen | madness: Ottawa and Montreal are worse. They can hit -40 pretty regular in mid winter |
| 00:23.02 | Epicenter | Hi! I need a version of Debian with a modern kernel, that supports the GeForce FX and Radeon 9800 .. it does not need 3D Acceleration. Just 2D. I also need a driver for the VIA-RHINE network card and SoundBlaster Audigy .. |
| 00:23.02 | cafuego | squibs: 35-45 ish |
| 00:23.05 | madness | LSorensen: ahhh. I'm director of a company that has some presence in toronto |
| 00:23.09 | Epicenter | Can anyone recommend a version and Server to get an ISO? |
| 00:23.14 | madness | LSorensen: I haven't ever been there though |
| 00:23.18 | Epicenter | NetInstall is OK |
| 00:23.20 | cafuego | squibs: Depends a bit on which outback you mean (there's a lot of it, all over the place) |
| 00:23.32 | LSorensen | madness: Ottawa is supposed to be the capital city in the world with the largest temperatur swing over a year |
| 00:23.48 | squibs | cafuego true, id like to do a walkabout in a year or so |
| 00:24.02 | cafuego | squibs: Where you planning on going? |
| 00:24.06 | madness | LSorensen: certainly wouldn't surprise me |
| 00:24.23 | LSorensen | madness: I think the lakes keep toronto slightly more under control |
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| 00:24.30 | squibs | cafuego: hoping to go from the coral reef all along the eastern coast |
| 00:24.37 | cafuego | squibs: if you want to go north (darwin, broome, barrier reef etc) make sure you go in australian winter. |
| 00:24.39 | madness | LSorensen: I remember I went out to MN, US in feb, it was -25, and then again in early april, was 35. That's insane climate change. dunno how you people cope |
| 00:24.50 | cafuego | squibs: Coz it's wet season there now. |
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| 00:24.59 | LSorensen | madness: they heat like mad in winter and cool like mad in summer |
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| 00:25.08 | bjbL | LSorensen, found some info in dmesg, thanks. SCSI device sda: 17826240 512-byte hdwr sectors (9127 MB) (I'm in Ottawa and it's pretty cold today - windy - forecast to be colder but less windy tomorrow, high -21C) |
| 00:25.14 | LSorensen | madness: well the crazy people just heat in the winter and put up with it in summer |
| 00:25.16 | a1abubba | Epicenter: you might test mepis linux at www.mepis.org |
| 00:25.31 | LSorensen | bjbL: is the canal frozen yet? |
| 00:25.37 | squibs | cafuego thanks for the tip. Is finding a guide for a several week walkabout hard? |
| 00:25.54 | madness | LSorensen: hehehehe |
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| 00:26.12 | bjbL | LSorensen, true to the "wide temperature swings", not its not. We're coming out of some unseasonably warm weather :-( into some damn freezing weather |
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| 00:26.23 | bjbL | Can't do anything with this kind of weather :-( |
| 00:26.48 | cafuego | squibs: Nah, they do tours from all the major cities |
| 00:26.52 | Epicenter | a1abubba: if at all possible I'd like to keep Debian. I know the most about operating it |
| 00:26.56 | random0ne | good evening... i want to be able to access different boxes on a private network by using different host names for the router/firewal. can anyone point me to an appropriate irc channel? |
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| 00:27.19 | cafuego | squibs: I can recommend Broome, having been there recently... the kimberley is fantastic. |
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| 00:27.33 | random0ne | (i'm currently using shorewall as my iptables configurator) |
| 00:27.59 | a1abubba | Epicenter: it is very much debian, all the apps are, just a custom kernel to make for an easy install with a wide variety of hardware configs |
| 00:28.04 | LSorensen | bjbL: well 17822800 is less than 17826240 by 3440 so maybe you can get away with 2 more cylinders |
| 00:28.12 | LSorensen | bjbL: that would only throw away 40 sectors |
| 00:28.27 | madness | random0ne: "different host names" ? not pointed at the same IP, surely ? |
| 00:28.46 | LSorensen | bjbL: so not time for a visit to go skating yet? |
| 00:28.48 | random0ne | madness, different hostnames pointed at the same real ip. |
| 00:28.51 | madness | random0ne: "different IP addresses" would be the most sane way to describe that |
| 00:29.00 | madness | random0ne: no |
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| 00:29.05 | troubled | anyone in woody tried 2.6 yet? |
| 00:29.07 | madness | random0ne: you can't do that. |
| 00:29.09 | random0ne | madness, i only get 1 ip address from roadrunner |
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| 00:29.20 | LSorensen | troubled: that would require some updates (module-init-tools among others) |
| 00:29.31 | Epicenter | a1abubba: Probability of success with this distro? |
| 00:29.34 | madness | random0ne: you can NAT outwards. |
| 00:29.35 | Epicenter | Is it too Beta to use? ;D |
| 00:29.50 | random0ne | madness, what about running a dns server on firewall so that the firewall could dnat according to hostname (which would resolve to different hosts on firewall) |
| 00:30.00 | troubled | LSorensen: im seeing that now. procps as well ;( MOst of the isnd and fsstuff like jfs and that I can ignore. but i was wondering if anyone made any backports yet for needed vers for 2.6 to woody |
| 00:30.06 | bjbL | LSorensen, no. Winterlude is the first three weeks of February, check again around then. |
| 00:30.07 | madness | random0ne: you're talking about incoming connections, right ? |
| 00:30.09 | LSorensen | random0ne: hostname is resolved by client, which connects by IP |
| 00:30.14 | madness | random0ne: it's *impossible* |
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| 00:30.25 | troubled | LSorensen: that or is sarge ready to go for 2.6? i can probably just upgrade the machine |
| 00:30.32 | Yodds | why on my server over LAN do I have to add a / to the end of the address? Is there a simple fix for this? |
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| 00:30.35 | random0ne | madness, i am talking about incoming connections. bummer about the impossible |
| 00:30.43 | madness | random0ne: learn how IP works. |
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| 00:30.55 | LSorensen | random0ne: apache can only do virtual hosts for plain http since it uses an http1.1 extension that specifies the wanted hostname on connect, https can't use it since it has to initiate the ssl connection by ip before it can comminucate the request |
| 00:30.56 | random0ne | madness, i'm sure that would help my endeavor |
| 00:30.56 | madness | random0ne: the only thing that may be possible is pointing webservers |
| 00:31.11 | cafuego | Maybe this is a stupid question, but why would you run an unsbale kernel if you wanted debian stable? |
| 00:31.16 | LSorensen | troubled: not sure if sarge is. sid certainly has 2.6.0-test9 in it. |
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| 00:31.20 | a1abubba | Epicenter: how do you define success? it is working extremely well for me on two quite different boxes... |
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| 00:31.34 | madness | random0ne: basically, if the protocols you're trying to use don't include information about the hostname, it's completely impossible. |
| 00:31.34 | hailstorm | comar: I've tried that and it works. Until I reboot. How do I save the configuration? |
| 00:31.38 | troubled | LSorensen: sid i think is a little too bleeding edge for the machine i want to upgrade |
| 00:31.44 | random0ne | LSorensen, thank you for clarification....my expectations are probably from setting up virtual hosts in apache |
| 00:31.44 | troubled | anyone using 2.6 in sarge? |
| 00:31.57 | cafuego | troubled: Yes, I am. (on the production box .... ;-) |
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| 00:32.06 | madness | random0ne: I'd suggest you go away and read a bit about how IP works. |
| 00:32.08 | random0ne | madness, ok. ssh what i want to do it with |
| 00:32.11 | Epicenter | a1abubba: M'kay :) Does NetInstall work? |
| 00:32.16 | troubled | cafuego: all the software versions meet requirements for 2.6 in sarge? |
| 00:32.19 | random0ne | madness, thank you for your help and time |
| 00:32.19 | Epicenter | a1abubba: or do I need a full CD Set? |
| 00:32.22 | madness | random0ne: then ssh to the firewall box and ssh further inside |
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| 00:32.29 | cafuego | troubled: Yeah, been fine for the past 10 days. |
| 00:32.37 | nashirak | Hey I have just installed a new motherboard and processor and wanted to make sure its running as fast as it said. I am wondering about it now... I did a cat /proc/cpuinfo and got an answer I didnt like. Is /proc updated when the Computer is booted or does it need to be refreshed? |
| 00:32.39 | madness | random0ne: no problem. |
| 00:32.42 | random0ne | madness, right now i port forward (ie 2205 -> computer five:22) |
| 00:32.43 | a1abubba | just need 1 cd |
| 00:32.50 | lazarus | troubled: /msg dpkg polls |
| 00:32.51 | Epicenter | I can use the original APT sources? |
| 00:32.54 | cafuego | nashirak: /proc is live |
| 00:32.55 | Epicenter | Like my local mirrors? |
| 00:32.56 | random0ne | madness, but i'm *really* lazy in some ways |
| 00:32.56 | LSorensen | troubled: I suspect backports of the needed pieces exist for woody though |
| 00:33.03 | madness | random0ne: that, or sshing twice are the only options |
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| 00:33.10 | cafuego | nashirak: What cpu is it supposed to be and what is /proc reporting? |
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| 00:33.22 | random0ne | madness, ok, thanks again.. such a treat to get quick help on irc |
| 00:33.23 | troubled | LSorensen: probably, but this machine can afford to be upgraded to sarge. its not the primary server |
| 00:33.34 | a1abubba | it installs to the hd and then you can apt-get install everything else from the net |
| 00:33.41 | LSorensen | nashirak: /proc is live |
| 00:34.02 | LSorensen | troubled: sarge is probably much closer if not fully ready |
| 00:34.10 | troubled | cafuego: curious though, I thought 2.6.0 had the mremap() problem, but i didnt see any 2.6.1 releases. whats the situation? |
| 00:34.10 | hailstorm | erm. Could anyone tell me how permanently remove a kernel module? modconf only lasts until next reboot. How do I save the configuration? |
| 00:34.16 | nashirak | cafuego: CPU is supposed to be at 2.13 (AMD 2600+) and its at 1.243 GHZ. |
| 00:34.17 | LSorensen | nashirak: what cpu do you have and what does /proc/cpuinfo say you have? |
| 00:34.18 | madness | random0ne: such a treat to hear someone who didn't understand something properly first and didn't get the answer they wanted to hear not start cursing swearing or insulting. |
| 00:34.23 | cafuego | troubled: 2.6.1-rc2 |
| 00:34.25 | madness | random0ne: :P |
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| 00:34.38 | random0ne | madness, lol |
| 00:34.40 | cafuego | nashirak: You'll need to set a switch on the mobo. |
| 00:34.40 | nashirak | LSorensen: AMD Athlon (TM) |
| 00:34.46 | troubled | LSorensen: ya, i think ill test sarge on the second dell before I move this dell over to 2.6/sarge. makes sense to test it before I switch on the exact same hardware |
| 00:34.58 | madness | random0ne: your one other option |
| 00:34.59 | troubled | cafuego: 2.6.1? i didnt see that on kernel.org odd, ill double check |
| 00:35.05 | cafuego | nashirak: Check the manual, the mono is currently set to 100Mhz |
| 00:35.11 | cafuego | troubled: No, 2.6.1-rc2 |
| 00:35.16 | madness | random0ne: and it's one I really wouldn't use, because I hate them |
| 00:35.22 | madness | random0ne: is a socks proxy or similar. |
| 00:35.26 | cafuego | troubled: Note how I didn't say "2.6.1" |
| 00:35.31 | LSorensen | nashirak: what speed athlon? |
| 00:35.39 | random0ne | madness, ok i will research |
| 00:35.45 | nashirak | cafuego: Yes it is... How did you know? I have an ASUS board I am wondering if I can set that in the BIOS or if its a jumper? |
| 00:35.50 | troubled | cafuego: ooops, sorry, forgot what rc's were for a sec hehe. ya I seen that |
| 00:36.05 | nashirak | LSorensen: AMD 2600+ (2.13GHZ) |
| 00:36.12 | LSorensen | nashirak: what bus model is the motherboard? |
| 00:36.16 | cafuego | nashirak: it'll be a jumper (I have an Athlon 2400 which claimed to be an 1800 until i removed the jumper) |
| 00:36.29 | LSorensen | nashirak: that's a barton core? 333mhz bus? |
| 00:36.32 | cafuego | nashirak: VIA mainboard? |
| 00:36.47 | nashirak | cafuego: Yea this just worries me that the speed is this low even with jumpers not being set |
| 00:36.54 | nashirak | cafuego: No NVIDIA |
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| 00:37.13 | LSorensen | nashirak: check the bus speed in the bios. most asus board default to 266mhz and have to be set to 333mhz if you have a barton. the multiplier is locked |
| 00:37.14 | djw | ljlane: I don't suppose you know how to make ecasound output to a named pipe, I cannot get it right |
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| 00:37.24 | nashirak | LSorensen: ASUS A7N8X-X |
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| 00:37.30 | [xDCDx] | hello |
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| 00:37.34 | [xDCDx] | I know its kinda offtopic |
| 00:37.36 | cafuego | nashirak: it's a locked multiplier with a system bus that should run at 166Mhz and not at 100. |
| 00:37.36 | ddent | Should I give XFS a try? |
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| 00:37.38 | [xDCDx] | but, does anybody happen to use OpenOffice, and finds the enabled by deafault Word Autocomplete distracting rather than useful? |
| 00:37.44 | ddent | Probably not right? |
| 00:37.52 | LSorensen | nashirak: I put an A7N8X-DX in my dad's machine with a 2500 recently and it was running slower until I set the bus to 333 in the bios and then it identified it as a 2500 |
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| 00:37.58 | StuckMojo | anyone know how to restart the debian installer after you drop to a console? |
| 00:38.15 | dondelelcaro | StuckMojo: just switch back to vt1 |
| 00:38.15 | madness | [xDCDx]: I tend to find openoffice as a whole distracting rather than useful :P |
| 00:38.16 | LSorensen | nashirak: just have to reboot, enter bios, set bus speed to 333 (166DDR) and it will be right |
| 00:38.20 | asg | StuckMojo: ALT+F1 |
| 00:38.20 | cafuego | nashirak: CHeck the mobo manual for a jumper... or a bios option. it'll be in there, in the install section. |
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| 00:38.34 | StuckMojo | i cant, im on a serial console |
| 00:38.36 | StuckMojo | it's an alphaserver |
| 00:38.38 | nashirak | cafuego LSorensen: Thx |
| 00:38.38 | LSorensen | ddent: up to you. sgi has used it for many years on all their systems |
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| 00:38.49 | hailstorm | Anyone. How do I save my config after using modconf? |
| 00:38.49 | ddent | No application compatibility problems |
| 00:38.50 | StuckMojo | i chose "run a console" from the menu |
| 00:38.50 | ddent | ? |
| 00:38.59 | Yodds | anyone good with apache that can privately point me in the correct direction to get it working |
| 00:39.11 | LSorensen | nashirak: would be nice if amd had made a way for the board to detect the proper bus speed for a cpu but they didn't |
| 00:39.14 | madness | ddent: it seems to work okay. I'd use ext3 personally, though. |
| 00:39.14 | cafuego | Yodds: www.apache.org/docs? |
| 00:39.15 | ljlane | djw, -i:/path/to/the/pipe should do IIRC |
| 00:39.16 | zyro | StuckMojo: did you try "exit" or something? |
| 00:39.20 | asg | hailstorm: /etc/modules (contains your selections) |
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| 00:39.23 | ljlane | djw, err.. -o |
| 00:39.24 | troubled | cafuego: wish me luck, switching to sarge first ;) |
| 00:39.28 | StuckMojo | zyro hehhe, thanks ;) |
| 00:39.30 | troubled | ljlane! :) |
| 00:39.31 | zyro | StuckMojo: or alt-f1, alt-f2, ...? |
| 00:39.33 | Yodds | cafuego: I doubt it'll be on there |
| 00:39.34 | cafuego | troubled: Sarge has been good here. |
| 00:39.37 | LSorensen | nashirak: there is a jumper on the board that selects 100DDR (200) or 133/166/200DDR (266/333/400). It ships set to the faster setting |
| 00:39.38 | lazarus | StuckMojo: fg |
| 00:39.40 | ljlane | troubled: greetings |
| 00:39.43 | troubled | cafuego: glad too hear |
| 00:39.43 | cafuego | troubled: Running any productive on that box? |
| 00:39.59 | StuckMojo | zyro exit did the trick, thanks man |
| 00:40.05 | djw | ljlane: it only seems to let me pipe to .raw format, I really need .au format, any ideas? |
| 00:40.08 | StuckMojo | this alpha is a PITA to install on |
| 00:40.08 | zyro | hey, that was easy. :o) |
| 00:40.12 | troubled | cafuego: no, its ns2, im on irc on ns1 thats the main box, ns2 just backup dns atm. it can afford to go down. but they are identical machines |
| 00:40.23 | StuckMojo | i had it all up and working, then the east coast poweroutage blew away my /usr |
| 00:40.25 | cafuego | troubled: *nod* |
| 00:40.27 | [xDCDx] | madness: heh, what do you use? abiword? |
| 00:40.32 | ljlane | djw, no, sorry |
| 00:40.38 | StuckMojo | i had write caching enabled on the hardware raid |
| 00:40.39 | StuckMojo | :( |
| 00:40.43 | hailstorm | asg: I can't access /etc/modules via the command line |
| 00:40.55 | LSorensen | djw: why .au? isn't that pretty obsolete? |
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| 00:41.04 | djw | ljlane: oh well, at least the website seems to have better docs than sox |
| 00:41.06 | asg | hailstorm: cat /etc/modules ? |
| 00:41.08 | cafuego | LSorensen: Oi! My country is NOT obsolete! |
| 00:41.09 | troubled | cafuego: besides, i suppose its smart to test the sarge/2.6 combo on the second box before I move everything over anyways. besides, woody was getting dated and losetup encryption problems in woody were pissing me off |
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| 00:41.14 | LSorensen | StuckMojo: battery backed? |
| 00:41.17 | madness | [xDCDx]: depends what I'm doing. |
| 00:41.25 | cafuego | Yodds: What is the problem with apache then? |
| 00:41.37 | djw | LSorensen: it's what NAS seems to except as an input |
| 00:41.42 | hailstorm | asg: thanks |
| 00:41.47 | cafuego | troubled: How much ram does the box have? |
| 00:41.48 | LSorensen | cafuego: No but the short name for it is. Come up with a new one |
| 00:41.54 | ljlane | djw: you should be able to -o:stdout | sox blah blah > /path/to/pipe for the conversion |
| 00:41.58 | troubled | cafuego: 512mb on both |
| 00:42.03 | StuckMojo | LSorensen possibly, but they were probably dead. BB wasn't enabled anyway |
| 00:42.08 | cafuego | troubled: that's ok then. |
| 00:42.09 | Yodds | cafuego: It will only load the page is a / is on the end of the address otherwise the connection just hangs and it displays nothing |
| 00:42.10 | StuckMojo | im just gonna leave write caching off |
| 00:42.13 | LSorensen | djw: hmm, perhaps a better sound server is in order |
| 00:42.22 | StuckMojo | now im just trying to get the damn disks mounted again |
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| 00:42.39 | troubled | cafuego: i dont run X on it...yet. Seems fine otherwise with woody |
| 00:42.40 | StuckMojo | there's support for the controller on the woody disks, but no device files |
| 00:42.42 | cafuego | Yodds: So it will load "index.html/" but not "index.html" ? |
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| 00:42.49 | djw | LSorensen: quality doesn't seem to be an issue |
| 00:42.56 | cafuego | troubled: There were some cryptoloop+highmem problems |
| 00:42.56 | LSorensen | StuckMojo: write cache on hardware raid should not be done unless the cache is battary backed |
| 00:43.00 | troubled | cafuego: why do you ask? sarge run more memory intensive versions of daemons? |
| 00:43.01 | StuckMojo | i found/made a script to create them, but for some reason it's not quite working this time |
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| 00:43.05 | djw | ljlane: worth a try :) |
| 00:43.07 | Yodds | cafuego: like that but only with folders |
| 00:43.11 | StuckMojo | LSorensen yeah, no shit ;) |
| 00:43.11 | cafuego | troubled: Fixed as of 2.6.1-rc1-mm2 though |
| 00:43.13 | troubled | cafuego: ahh, i see, ya, the >1gig issue I think I seen that |
| 00:43.18 | squibs | Yodds: does it say anything in your error logs? |
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| 00:43.30 | StuckMojo | LSorensen this machine is just for fun. i bought it on e-gay for $125 |
| 00:43.33 | hailstorm | asg: The module I want to prevent running doesn't appear in that file. How do I stop a sound driver from automatically loading? It's interfering with alsa drivers. It must be hardware autodetection |
| 00:43.40 | StuckMojo | it's acting (or was anyway) as my gateway |
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| 00:43.46 | Yodds | squibs: Not checked, probably that it doesnt exist |
| 00:43.47 | simonrvn | cafuego: hrm, that sounds like a problem i'm having with a vhost here. there's no index.* page, but the vhost is set to +Indexes, but it still won't display dir contents |
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| 00:43.58 | LSorensen | StuckMojo: I have used IBM ServeRaid 4M-X which had a 64M battery backed cache. Worked fine. If there was no battery or the battery died the card disabled write back caching automatically |
| 00:44.00 | [xDCDx] | madness: for example? ^^U |
| 00:44.04 | squibs | Yodds: I would check and be sure |
| 00:44.07 | simonrvn | cafuego: error logs say no such file... foo// |
| 00:44.13 | asg | hailstorm: is it a module or compiled in? (does it appear if you type 'lsmod' ?) |
| 00:44.29 | StuckMojo | LSorensen there's an option to enable it in the raid config, but i dont recall if the card actually has BB or not |
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| 00:44.32 | StuckMojo | i think not actually |
| 00:44.33 | simonrvn | Yodds: sounds like a bug in apache |
| 00:44.35 | hailstorm | asg: It appears when I type lsmod yes |
| 00:44.49 | LSorensen | StuckMojo: better turn it off then. :) |
| 00:44.52 | Yodds | squibs: This has also happened to another of my friends, we havent a clue why it does it |
| 00:45.07 | madness | [xDCDx]: vim for notes, kword for normal word processing, openoffice if I absolutely must produce msword compatible files, antiword if I absolutely must read msword compatible files. |
| 00:45.12 | StuckMojo | ACK! i just realized why i can't mount! :((( |
| 00:45.25 | StuckMojo | i updated it to 2.4 and converted to ext3 |
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| 00:45.27 | asg | hailstorm: it might be being auto loaded by some action at boot time (see /etc/init.d/*) |
| 00:45.27 | lazarus | StuckMojo: get a more cooperative partner |
| 00:45.30 | simonrvn | Yodds: like i said to cafuego, i have that on a vhost here. but not all of them seem to have the problem. i'll test this on my own site, see what happens |
| 00:45.34 | StuckMojo | woody 2.2 doesn't have ext3 on the boot disks, no? |
| 00:45.35 | [xDCDx] | i see, thanks for the info :) |
| 00:45.38 | cafuego | Yodds: Make sure mod_dir and mod_autoindex and loaded |
| 00:45.39 | hailstorm | asg: ok |
| 00:45.47 | cafuego | s/and/are |
| 00:45.54 | StuckMojo | and the alpha port doesn't have any bf2.4 files last i looked |
| 00:45.56 | StuckMojo | damn it |
| 00:46.05 | simonrvn | cafuego: autoindex? why? |
| 00:46.13 | StuckMojo | oh well. may as well take the opportunity to repartition while im at it |
| 00:46.18 | cafuego | simonrvn: Why not? |
| 00:46.19 | squibs | Yodds: you can also run apachectl configtest to make sure theres nothing wrong with yout httpd.conf file |
| 00:46.26 | StuckMojo | unless anyone has any good ideas? |
| 00:46.26 | Yodds | cafuego: being dumb here but, where would I do that httpd.conf |
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| 00:46.41 | StuckMojo | there is no ext3 on 2.2, right? so i'm screwed? |
| 00:46.43 | Yodds | squibs: I'll try that |
| 00:46.43 | cafuego | Yodds: modules.conf i think it is these days |
| 00:46.46 | simonrvn | cafuego: hrm, i'll look into that. gimme a min |
| 00:46.58 | cafuego | simonrvn: Which apache did you experience that prob on? |
| 00:47.03 | hailstorm | asg: discover? |
| 00:47.19 | simonrvn | sid's |
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| 00:47.47 | asg | hailstorm: could be but I'd ask for a second opinion (i'm not well versed with discover) |
| 00:47.49 | simonrvn | actually no, not sid's an ipv6 enabled one i got from unofficial sources |
| 00:47.56 | StuckMojo | damn damn damn. oh well |
| 00:48.12 | lazarus | StuckMojo: ext3 allegedly mounts as ext2, though i don't touch ext3 myself |
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| 00:48.24 | LSorensen | StuckMojo: ext3 is a 2.4 and newer feature |
| 00:48.39 | simonrvn | cafuego: deb http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/pub/debian-ipv6 sid ipv6 |
| 00:48.41 | cafuego | simonrvn: based on sids? |
| 00:48.42 | LSorensen | StuckMojo: but yeah it can be turned back into ext2 |
| 00:48.43 | lazarus | StuckMojo: try as ext2 if you like, before being more drastic |
| 00:48.45 | simonrvn | cafuego: yup |
| 00:48.46 | VynoM | quick question. Do you "need" an initrd file for new kernel image? |
| 00:49.01 | LSorensen | StuckMojo: at most you have to use tune2fs to turn of the journal |
| 00:49.02 | cafuego | simonrvn: yeah, my sid one has that problem too, won't access /sbs but will access /sbs/ |
| 00:49.05 | Yodds | squbs: it sez my config is OK |
| 00:49.19 | LSorensen | VynoM: only if the kernel was compiled to expect initrd |
| 00:49.20 | simonrvn | cafuego: whoah weird |
| 00:49.26 | squibs | Yodds and you checked your modules? |
| 00:49.29 | lazarus | VynoM: if you choose to compile the kernel with initrd, then yeah |
| 00:49.35 | simonrvn | sounds like a bug, or a 'feature' |
| 00:49.36 | StuckMojo | i've got an idea. i had a 1G disk i was using as /tmp. i just reformated it ext2, lets see if it mounts |
| 00:49.40 | LSorensen | cafuego: sounds like a typo in the config |
| 00:49.43 | VynoM | LSorensen, lazarus: Thanks |
| 00:49.45 | cafuego | simonrvn: No, bug. |
| 00:49.49 | lazarus | VynoM: all in how you configure it, /msg apt kp |
| 00:49.52 | cafuego | LSorensen: The config is correct. |
| 00:49.52 | VynoM | time to reboot new kernel then |
| 00:49.54 | LSorensen | cafuego: usualy a missing or extra / somewhere in an alias |
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| 00:50.13 | Spider210 | Currently I am using cPanel and WHM, They were both installed by my host. Once the sites resolved the files were uploaded but, When you go to access the site ( www.onestop-hosting.net ) all it does is ask you if you want to download / can someone explain how-to fix this??? |
| 00:50.13 | StuckMojo | yep, sure enough |
| 00:50.22 | simonrvn | LSorensen: when you try both ways, and it works the same, it's a bug |
| 00:50.25 | LSorensen | cafuego: I would think it is obviously not correct or it would be working :) |
| 00:50.25 | cafuego | LSorensen: I tried every possible configuration for the alias. |
| 00:50.32 | simonrvn | cafuego: so did i |
| 00:50.33 | Yodds | squibs: modules.conf right, if so, what would I look for? |
| 00:50.46 | StuckMojo | nope, won't let me force it to ext2 |
| 00:50.51 | LSorensen | cafuego: what does the alias look like? |
| 00:50.54 | simonrvn | Yodds: modules-config apache enable mod_foo |
| 00:50.56 | cafuego | LSorensen: No, it's a bug. The SAME directive works as expected on the woody apache. |
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| 00:51.23 | cafuego | LSorensen: Alias /sbs/ /usr/share/sbs/ |
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| 00:51.37 | LSorensen | cafuego: if the alias is /sbs/ that you MUST type /sbs/ |
| 00:51.41 | simonrvn | yeh that's definitely a bug |
| 00:51.44 | LSorensen | cafuego: /sbs will NOT match /sbs/ |
| 00:51.47 | JesTer | linux sniffers anyone? |
| 00:51.49 | LSorensen | cafuego: or rather it should not |
| 00:51.56 | simonrvn | LSorensen: it didn't used to matter |
| 00:51.58 | cafuego | LSorensen: if I change that to Alias /sbs /usr/share/sbs/ it ALSO doesn't work |
| 00:52.15 | Spider210 | Can anyone help me? |
| 00:52.18 | StuckMojo | LSorensen know off the top of your head how to get rid of the journal? i only know how to make it |
| 00:52.21 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: that's an interesting one. |
| 00:52.24 | JesTer | what spider |
| 00:52.26 | LSorensen | cafuego: now that is just not nice if it. Well I guess the newer build is wrong then |
| 00:52.33 | Spider210 | Currently I am using cPanel and WHM, They were both installed by my host. Once the sites resolved the files were uploaded but, When you go to access the site ( www.onestop-hosting.net ) all it does is ask you if you want to download / can someone explain how-to fix this??? |
| 00:52.34 | lazarus | JesTer: we aren't about to help youo be a cracker, ,goodbye |
| 00:52.34 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: More annoying than anything else |
| 00:52.38 | LSorensen | StuckMojo: I always have to look it up. one sec |
| 00:52.54 | cafuego | LSorensen: yes, that's what simonrvn and I have been saying <heh> |
| 00:52.55 | simonrvn | very annoying. one vhost won't work because of no index.* |
| 00:52.57 | StuckMojo | LSorensen im in the man page now...dont see anything obvious |
| 00:53.29 | simonrvn | now it works. thanks to the mod_autoindex |
| 00:53.33 | StuckMojo | LSorensen looks like -f is involved... |
| 00:53.37 | cafuego | simonrvn: toldya |
| 00:53.39 | simonrvn | cafuego: thanks for the tip |
| 00:53.41 | JesTer | lol i dont want to be a cracker |
| 00:54.03 | Yodds | squibs: so I add LoadModule mod_foo to the httpd.conf, or what? |
| 00:54.16 | djw | I now need a sound level meter to check inputs for the command line |
| 00:54.30 | lazarus | JesTer: whose privacy are you attempting to violate? |
| 00:54.30 | StuckMojo | LSorensen wait, i think i've got it |
| 00:54.39 | JesTer | lol no ones |
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| 00:54.51 | StuckMojo | LSorensen appears to be -O ^has_journal |
| 00:55.33 | simonrvn | Yodds: modules-config apache enable $name_of_module |
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| 00:55.56 | LSorensen | StuckMojo: yep preferably after a clean umount |
| 00:55.56 | StuckMojo | bah. im reformating |
| 00:56.03 | ljlane | djw: ecaview, text mode |
| 00:56.06 | Yodds | simonrvn do I type that in the terminal then |
| 00:56.08 | StuckMojo | it won't even let me force it, because it's marked dirty |
| 00:56.14 | StuckMojo | so it's probably hosed anyway |
| 00:56.18 | simonrvn | Yodds: of course, a root shell preferably |
| 00:56.25 | lazarus | StuckMojo: *this* is why i so mistrust ext3 |
| 00:56.28 | Yodds | gotcha |
| 00:56.35 | LSorensen | StuckMojo: dirty generally just means it wants to be have to journal played back |
| 00:56.36 | ljlane | djw, errmm... is that ecasignalview or ecamonitor? I forget. |
| 00:56.45 | lazarus | StuckMojo: reiserfs all the way :) |
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| 00:56.49 | LSorensen | lazarus: because the tools won't let you do wrong things? |
| 00:56.49 | simonrvn | Yodds: you can get the names in /usr/lib/apache/1.3 |
| 00:56.53 | Yodds | command not found |
| 00:57.00 | VynoM | hmm... Got an error. Bummer |
| 00:57.01 | djw | ljlane: ecasignalview :) |
| 00:57.02 | Yodds | ah |
| 00:57.04 | StuckMojo | LSorensen it wan't me to run e2fsck. im not gonna bother. i dont think it was shut down cleanly last time |
| 00:57.04 | LSorensen | lazarus: yeah data corruption on power failure is so much better |
| 00:57.04 | VynoM | time to google some more |
| 00:57.05 | lazarus | LSorensen: the "can always mount as ext2" lie |
| 00:57.06 | simonrvn | Yodds: what debian version you have there? |
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| 00:57.17 | Yodds | how can I tell |
| 00:57.24 | StuckMojo | i've gotta resinstall from scratch anyway, and all kinds of shit, so a reformat isn't a bad thing |
| 00:57.24 | LSorensen | StuckMojo: well if it had been shut down cleanly you could just remove the journal |
| 00:57.25 | hailstorm | asg: Yeah. It was discover. I just needed to put skip via82cxxx_audio at the end of /etc/discover.conf. Thanks for your help |
| 00:57.27 | simonrvn | Yodds: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 00:57.35 | StuckMojo | nothing important or irreplacable on it anyway |
| 00:57.38 | LSorensen | StuckMojo: if not, then it won't let you to protect the data still in the journal |
| 00:57.39 | bjbL | LSorensen, my computer is a sick puppy. And so am I. I'm going to bed, will try again tomorrow. Thanks for the help. (was hoping to salvage the other HD in the computer, but only the boot partition can be mounted). Thanks again. G'night. |
| 00:57.41 | simonrvn | (porbably woody) |
| 00:57.46 | Yodds | 3.0 |
| 00:57.49 | simonrvn | if you don't even know |
| 00:57.50 | lazarus | StuckMojo: /sbin/mkfs.reiserfs is your friend :) |
| 00:58.01 | simonrvn | Yodds: apacheconfig is the one you want then |
| 00:58.07 | LSorensen | lazarus: I have lost enough data to reiserfs |
| 00:58.12 | simonrvn | or apache-config (?) |
| 00:58.18 | LSorensen | lazarus: when reiserfs 4.x is done, I will reconsider it |
| 00:58.29 | StuckMojo | lazarus 2.2 kernel, woody tftpboot image for alpha, no 2.4 available |
| 00:58.29 | lazarus | LSorensen: the only data i have lost in recent years has been on ext* |
| 00:58.43 | Yodds | so apache-config enable $mod_foo |
| 00:58.45 | VynoM | hmmm... says I need to Append a correct root = (boot option) |
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| 00:58.59 | lazarus | StuckMojo: isn't 2.6.0 current on alpha? |
| 00:59.01 | simonrvn | Yodds: uh not sure of the syntax. read the --help, or the man page |
| 00:59.11 | StuckMojo | lazarus LOL, what? |
| 00:59.15 | simonrvn | (been a while since i used that) |
| 00:59.22 | iphitus | where can I get the beta 1 netinstall ISO? |
| 00:59.22 | Yodds | simonrvn: k |
| 00:59.24 | StuckMojo | lazarus this is debian we're talkin about here |
| 00:59.33 | lazarus | StuckMojo: seems to be what i saw on kernel.org, oh well |
| 00:59.33 | StuckMojo | lazarus 2.6 wont be available till 2010 |
| 00:59.46 | lazarus | StuckMojo: /msg dpkg kp |
| 00:59.47 | LSorensen | lazarus: I have had file data corrupted on power failure because of the way reiserfs handles file modifications. at least ext3 defaults to ordered writes to empty blocks and only removes old data after updating meta data. reiserfs cheerfully start overwriting data without being sure it can complete and then will undo the meta data changes on replay of the journal but of course your prior data is gone |
| 00:59.52 | JesTer | hi |
| 00:59.53 | iphitus | does anyone know of a mirror of it? |
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| 01:00.10 | simonrvn | LSorensen: eew |
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| 01:00.24 | LSorensen | lazarus: reiserfs 4 will do full data journaling which is seriously needs |
| 01:00.33 | LSorensen | simonrvn: that's what is wrong with meta data journaling |
| 01:00.44 | LSorensen | simonrvn: xfs of course is full journaling |
| 01:00.50 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 01:00.58 | wasabi | xfs is only metadata isn't it? |
| 01:01.05 | lazarus | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.09 | LSorensen | simonrvn: ext3 can be, but defaults to metadata journaling and ordered writes to empty blocks (not overwriting until journal is commited) |
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| 01:01.13 | ljlane | wasabi, yeah |
| 01:01.21 | lazarus | i wish that told me "how much longer?" |
| 01:01.38 | iphitus | where can I get the beta 1 netinstall ISO? are there any mirrors about? |
| 01:01.38 | Yodds | simonrvn: --help said command not found, how odd, but it seems to like the enable $mod_foo so lets hope |
| 01:01.39 | LSorensen | lazarus: I love the performance of reiserfs, but I can't rely on it with 3.x's behaviour |
| 01:01.43 | simonrvn | lazarus: you still need to go through the modules (using make-kpkg?) |
| 01:01.59 | lazarus | simonrvn: yes i am |
| 01:02.01 | simonrvn | Yodds: yeh, not all commands have a --help or a -h |
| 01:02.04 | lucas | hiyas, i'm having a lot of trouble with apt complaining that '404 File does not exist on any server' --- I'm using local mirrors, but I've also tried ftp.debian.org... are other people getting this too? it's been happening for the past three days or so. |
| 01:02.14 | djw | ljlane: I think it works, just at the wrong speed, so that some sort of progess |
| 01:02.22 | ddent | The e1000 stuff reports "No such device" |
| 01:02.24 | simonrvn | lazarus: yeh the modules are soon to be next, then the MODPOST stuff, then it'll pack everything up |
| 01:02.26 | Yodds | simonrvn: lol, crappy redhat gave me that habbit |
| 01:02.27 | lazarus | lucas: 'dselect update' first |
| 01:02.32 | ljlane | djw, hrmm... ecasound has all sorts of options for that |
| 01:02.32 | ddent | Similar to the intel-gige stuff. |
| 01:02.43 | ddent | So, basically, my new Linux machine is useless. |
| 01:02.54 | lazarus | lucas: you need to be checcking for the version that's there now, not the one that was "current" a few hours back |
| 01:03.09 | LSorensen | ddent: huh? ok, do you have /proc/pci when running the installer? can you see what devices you have for network? |
| 01:03.09 | lazarus | simonrvn: what's modpost? |
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| 01:03.20 | StuckMojo | crap. wife's got dinner ready. bbiaf guys ;) |
| 01:03.20 | lucas | lazarus, i usually use 'apt-get update && apt-get -s dist-upgrade' --- should i be using dselect? |
| 01:03.21 | simonrvn | lucas: either you,re hitting a known bug. check bts. or you need to change mirror |
| 01:03.23 | LSorensen | ddent: or your network card is not what you think it is |
| 01:03.25 | iphitus | where can I get the beta 1 netinstall ISO? are there any mirrors about? |
| 01:03.31 | iphitus | or a stable copy? |
| 01:03.36 | lucas | simonrvn, ok |
| 01:03.36 | LSorensen | ddent: which motherboard/chipset/cputype is it? |
| 01:03.43 | simonrvn | lazarus: it links (ld) the modules up, and renames them to *.ko files |
| 01:03.59 | ShaolinTiger | ~netinst |
| 01:04.01 | | i guess netinst is a mini-CD bootable ISO which installs the base Debian system. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/installers.html for a large variety of sources for various netinst images for Woody, Sarge, and Sid. |
| 01:04.11 | lazarus | lucas: 'dselect update' is compatible with apt-get won't break things, unlike 'apt-get update' you can still use the other commands you choose |
| 01:04.13 | ddent | LSorensen: There's a bunch of stuff in /proc/net |
| 01:04.17 | LSorensen | ddent: is the network card onboard or add in? |
| 01:04.22 | ddent | LSorensen: Intel 875 chipset, Intel D875PBZ board. |
| 01:04.23 | lucas | lazarus, ok thanks |
| 01:04.29 | ddent | LSorensen: Add in. |
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| 01:04.35 | LSorensen | ddent: no /proc/pci |
| 01:04.36 | lazarus | lucas: though yes, i prefer apt-get dselect-upgrade myself :) |
| 01:04.52 | ddent | "cant cd to pci" |
| 01:05.02 | LSorensen | ddent: hmm, do you see network card info in /proc/pci? |
| 01:05.05 | lucas | lazarus, ok |
| 01:05.10 | LSorensen | ddent: it's a file not a dir |
| 01:05.13 | Yodds | simonrvn: GULP, |
| 01:05.15 | Yodds | Syntax error on line 211 of /etc/apache/httpd.conf: |
| 01:05.16 | Yodds | Invalid command 'ExtendedStatus', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration |
| 01:05.18 | LSorensen | ddent: text file. cat /proc/pci|more |
| 01:05.20 | ddent | ok |
| 01:05.22 | lazarus | simonrvn: i'm getting LDs in the middle of this part though, are the modules somehow treated differently in their time? |
| 01:05.24 | ddent | cat'ed... |
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| 01:05.36 | ddent | Also, forgot to mention, it's actually an Asus A7V motherboard, VIA chipset. |
| 01:05.38 | cafuego | Yodds: that only works if mod_status is loaded |
| 01:05.42 | ddent | Addon Ethernet. |
| 01:05.44 | simonrvn | lazarus: yeh |
| 01:05.51 | lazarus | simonrvn: LD drivers/misc/built-in.o |
| 01:05.53 | ddent | Umm, this board and chipset works with Linux just fine. |
| 01:06.02 | ddent | That's what I used to run. |
| 01:06.06 | Yodds | cafuego: so I need to add that how? |
| 01:06.06 | LSorensen | ddent: I have an A7V in this machine. With a 3C905C add in |
| 01:06.14 | cafuego | ddent: Not with kernels < 2.4.21 |
| 01:06.27 | cafuego | Yodds: Yes |
| 01:06.36 | simonrvn | lazarus: yeh that's cool |
| 01:06.40 | LSorensen | ddent: so do you see Ethernet Controller in that list? |
| 01:06.42 | ddent | The network card shows up as device 13 |
| 01:06.49 | LSorensen | cafuego: whta changed in 2.4.21? |
| 01:07.02 | cafuego | ddent: 'lspci' is a bit more useful then catting /proc/pci |
| 01:07.04 | lazarus | okay, someone is a wino on the kernel development team? :) drivers/net/3c515.c: In function `corkscrew_scan': |
| 01:07.05 | ddent | 8086:1076 (Intel Corp.) |
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| 01:07.09 | cafuego | LSorensen: KT400 support got added |
| 01:07.12 | iphitus | ty, buti want the one in development, the new sarge installer. the main place to get it is down and a few weeks ago someone pointed me to a mirror |
| 01:07.12 | LSorensen | ddent: ok, what does it say after Ethernet Controller: |
| 01:07.17 | simonrvn | lazarus: hehehe |
| 01:07.19 | LSorensen | cafuego: yeah if the installer had lspci |
| 01:07.26 | LSorensen | cafuego: It's a KT133 |
| 01:07.32 | cafuego | LSorensen: aaah |
| 01:07.33 | simonrvn | lazarus: probably does some sort of funky scan |
| 01:07.35 | exobyte | I finally got the modem going. Could having another network interface with a gateway confuse something, like- say- mozilla firebird? |
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| 01:07.40 | ddent | lspci: not found |
| 01:07.47 | LSorensen | cafuego: The original socketA chipset |
| 01:08.01 | simonrvn | wee |
| 01:08.01 | ddent | LSorensen: A bunch of details about it... |
| 01:08.01 | cafuego | exobyte: no, because you can only have one gateway. |
| 01:08.01 | lazarus | simonrvn: i didn't know i could open bottles with my nic ;) |
| 01:08.01 | Yodds | cafuegoL how do I add modules for apache on debian 3.0 |
| 01:08.02 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 01:08.11 | cafuego | Yodds: $EDITOR /etc/apache/httpd.conf |
| 01:08.11 | LSorensen | ddent: what excactly does it say after Ethernet Controller: just on that line |
| 01:08.29 | ddent | Ethernet controller, pci device 8086:1076 (intel corp) (rev 0) |
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| 01:08.31 | cafuego | Yodds: LoadModule status_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_status.so |
| 01:08.33 | ddent | Maybe IRQ 4 |
| 01:08.35 | Yodds | cafuego: I'm tere |
| 01:08.36 | lazarus | beer bottles with a bic yes, but wine bottles with a nic? :) |
| 01:08.37 | ddent | Dunno if that is meant to be the same line,. |
| 01:08.40 | VynoM | hmmm... looks like have have to mkinitrd |
| 01:08.46 | exobyte | cafuego: so how can I keep the interface with a gateway up while still accessing the internet through my modem? |
| 01:08.55 | LSorensen | ddent: let me look up the 1076 model |
| 01:09.12 | ddent | Remember, the intel-gige stuff would say the resources were already in use. |
| 01:09.13 | simonrvn | lazarus: no, witha wic :P |
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| 01:09.27 | lazarus | heh |
| 01:09.36 | cafuego | exobyte: You either use the modem as defaultroute OR the networkc ard |
| 01:09.44 | ddent | This is my card, right here : |
| 01:09.44 | ddent | http://www.intel.com/network/connectivity/products/pro1000mt_desktop_adapter.htm?iid=ipp_desk+pro1000mt& |
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| 01:10.31 | ddent | dunno what 1076 is |
| 01:10.31 | LSorensen | ddent: yep. I wonder if it is just too darn new. I wonder just which kernel that one was added in |
| 01:10.31 | cafuego | exobyte: if you use the nic just for lan access, you don't need a gateway on it. |
| 01:10.34 | exobyte | cafuego: is there a setting that can make sure the modem overrides ethernet? |
| 01:10.36 | ddent | But the box has C38676 on it |
| 01:10.36 | cafuego | exobyte: it will autoroute packets for that network segment via that interface |
| 01:10.40 | LSorensen | ddent: 8086 is intel's PCI vendor id. 1076 is the PCI id of that particular network card from intel |
| 01:10.47 | cafuego | exobyte: yes, default route |
| 01:10.54 | ddent | Maybe that's not the right PCI ide for this. |
| 01:10.55 | LSorensen | ddent: unique identifier for that card so drivers can find the right pci cards |
| 01:10.56 | exobyte | cafuego: in my ppp config |
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| 01:11.08 | ddent | s/PCI ide/PCI id |
| 01:11.09 | exobyte | cafuego: my issue is that I use dhcp |
| 01:11.13 | LSorensen | ddent: the ID is right. perhaps the driver is just too old to know about that id. |
| 01:11.19 | cafuego | exobyte: yes.. should be there anyway. Just don't add a gateway line in interfces for the network card |
| 01:11.24 | LSorensen | ddent: what does 'uname -r' say? |
| 01:11.47 | beta3 | ddent: /exec -o uname -r |
| 01:11.55 | ddent | BusyBox v 0.60... |
| 01:11.59 | lazarus | lol |
| 01:12.03 | ddent | beta3: Wtf are you talkin about? |
| 01:12.09 | ddent | I am in Windows. |
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| 01:12.14 | ddent | My linux machine doesnt have internet. |
| 01:12.16 | ddent | I dont have bitchx |
| 01:12.16 | cafuego | !find va-ctcs |
| 01:12.18 | ddent | I dont have epic |
| 01:12.20 | beta3 | ddent: o, well whatever |
| 01:12.22 | ddent | I dont even have an internet connection |
| 01:12.25 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'va-ctcs' returned no results. |
| 01:12.25 | ddent | Yes, w/e |
| 01:12.28 | VynoM | hmmm... How odd |
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| 01:12.48 | shoutt | is xf4.3 still in experimental |
| 01:12.57 | ddent | BusyBox 0.60.3-pre... |
| 01:13.02 | LSorensen | ddent: so what does uname -r say? |
| 01:13.11 | lazarus | shoutt: you come here rather than looking in the repository? |
| 01:13.11 | ddent | holy cracka jack... |
| 01:13.15 | ddent | It says that BusyBox crap. |
| 01:13.19 | exobyte | cafuego: dhcp feeds it a gateway |
| 01:13.21 | shoutt | lazarus: im just askin |
| 01:13.23 | Yodds | cafuego: now whats the module I need to fix to stop having to add a / at the end of a folder |
| 01:13.23 | LSorensen | ddent: hmm, that's weird |
| 01:13.32 | LSorensen | ddent: cat /proc/version |
| 01:13.34 | lazarus | shoutt: hang on, i'll go look right away |
| 01:13.38 | ddent | 2.4.18-bf2 |
| 01:13.48 | LSorensen | ddent: hmm, crap. |
| 01:13.52 | ddent | 2.4.18-bf2.4-xfs |
| 01:13.53 | shoutt | lazarus: thanks |
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| 01:13.59 | RetroFlash | Any ideas...I did a 2.6 update & now my IDE cdroms wont mount. hwsetup sees the drives, so does dmesg...iso9660 and ide are in kernel. Plz help. Msg me if possible. |
| 01:14.05 | VynoM | can anyone tell me why this isn't working? # mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.6.0.img 2.6.0 |
| 01:14.12 | Gent | anyone here interested in discussing a Linux distribution with MySQL based configuration? |
| 01:14.15 | *** part/#debian Epicenter (~Epicenter@Gate.SPSU.edu) |
| 01:14.21 | ddent | Gent: Maybe SQLite. |
| 01:14.26 | ddent | Gent: And Python. |
| 01:14.28 | ddent | Gent: :-) |
| 01:14.35 | Gent | sorry, we're aiming for MySQL and PHP |
| 01:14.38 | Gent | unless you can argue otherwise |
| 01:14.45 | Gent | but please, join the discussion and argue some points |
| 01:14.46 | ddent | Well, MySQL and PHP sucks. |
| 01:14.49 | lemmywinks | hello, can anyone recommend a good wifi card? I guess 802.11b |
| 01:14.51 | ddent | j/k |
| 01:14.53 | shoutt | ddent: you suck |
| 01:15.11 | cafuego | !find bin/switchto |
| 01:15.17 | RetroFlash | VynoM Did u not use the new 2.6 kernel compile method? |
| 01:15.17 | ddent | shoutt: Yes, but I've actually implemented stuff in PHP few others have. |
| 01:15.21 | Gent | ddent, if you can offer argument or some insight you're much welcomed at the discussion, join #ProjectGecko if you're interested |
| 01:15.22 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/switchto' returned no results. |
| 01:15.24 | ddent | shoutt: And I continue to. |
| 01:15.29 | LSorensen | ddent: let me check if 2.4.18 has support at all for that chip or if a newer 2.4 was needed |
| 01:15.39 | ddent | Gent: What does PHP have to do with it? Scripting? |
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| 01:15.48 | VynoM | RetroFlash new compile method? I used make-kpkg |
| 01:15.50 | Gent | yeah ddent |
| 01:15.51 | ddent | LSorensen: k |
| 01:15.56 | ddent | Gent: That's just crazy. |
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| 01:16.33 | ddent | Gent: I tried it and consider it silly compared to Python. And so then I tried to put Python on the web and that was just about as crazy as doing PHP for application/scripts offline. |
| 01:16.37 | RetroFlash | VynoM I mean just downloading kernel, make, make modules_install, make install, lilo.conf |
| 01:16.48 | ddent | So, it's both ways, and I have some fairly complex stuff on both sides. |
| 01:16.55 | PingLH | anyone know where to get linux themes at? |
| 01:17.01 | Xenocide | RetroFlash: is that new? |
| 01:17.13 | dondelelcaro | PingLH: linux doesn't have themes. |
| 01:17.22 | ddent | I currently use Webware for Python web stuff though. |
| 01:17.23 | exobyte | in kdm, is there a way to hide certain users, like root and the user that owns sound stuff? |
| 01:17.25 | Gent | ddent, well we don't feel PHP will be an issue for server scripts, plus with 5 we're looking at object orientation |
| 01:17.26 | Xenocide | or anyways, make-kpkg should work, no? |
| 01:17.27 | PingLH | debain/kde |
| 01:17.28 | Yodds | simonrvn & cafuego: What was that fix for me not having to add / at the end of a folders address eg: /status/ instead /status |
| 01:17.30 | LSorensen | ddent: when did you get that NIC? |
| 01:17.37 | ddent | Gent: We have object orientation now. |
| 01:17.43 | ddent | Gent: Didn't you know that? |
| 01:17.44 | VynoM | RetroFlash nope. I downloaded kernel. Symlink, make menuconfig, make-kpkg, dpkg -i kernel_image.blah.foo |
| 01:17.47 | dondelelcaro | exobyte: you shouldn't have a user that owns sound stuff. There should only be an audio group. |
| 01:17.48 | ddent | LSorensen: Last week. |
| 01:17.52 | Gent | ddent, technically so does PHP |
| 01:17.55 | Gent | it's just shabby |
| 01:17.58 | ddent | Gent: That's what I am talking about. |
| 01:17.59 | dondelelcaro | PingLH: yes, there are themes for kde. apt-cache search kde theme |
| 01:18.00 | ddent | PHP. |
| 01:18.04 | Gent | oh |
| 01:18.06 | ddent | I know what PHP 5 will add. |
| 01:18.10 | Gent | I thought you meant Python, which I'm not familiar with |
| 01:18.10 | djw | ljlane: well I'm getting an output through, but it's really quiet, any ideas to way that's the case? |
| 01:18.19 | LSorensen | ddent: oh. Even 2.4.23 hasn't heard of that model yet |
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| 01:18.19 | Xenocide | well thank you lazarus |
| 01:18.21 | exobyte | dondelelcaro: well- I'm off to remove the user. Give it to root, then? |
| 01:18.28 | Gent | ddent, well if you're interested in discussing, please join #ProjectGecko |
| 01:18.32 | Gent | for now I have to start up the discussion |
| 01:18.34 | LSorensen | ddent: why can't intel use the same stupid id for each version of the same #@#$@# card |
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| 01:18.37 | ddent | Well, it seems like a mistake of experience. |
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| 01:18.42 | Xenocide | telling me what I know allready. |
| 01:18.43 | dondelelcaro | exobyte: /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer? they should be chown root.audio |
| 01:18.51 | ljlane | djw, tried adjusting the input level with a mixer? |
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| 01:19.03 | beta3 | dondelelcaro: the coolest idea would be devnullfs |
| 01:19.08 | exobyte | dondelelcaro: is is root.audio or root:audio? |
| 01:19.12 | ddent | LSorensen: What id is pro1000mt supposed to have? |
| 01:19.13 | LSorensen | ddent: the driver WOULD work if it knew that it WOULD work. And the only way to fix it is to edit the source code and compile the module again |
| 01:19.13 | ddent | http://www.intel.com/network/connectivity/products/pro1000mt_desktop_adapter.htm?iid=ipp_desk+pro1000mt& |
| 01:19.16 | beta3 | dondelelcaro: move all the crap you want to get rid of to there :) |
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| 01:19.28 | ddent | LSorensen: I'll believe that when I see it. |
| 01:19.30 | djw | ljlane: I have everything a full, and my speakers on the other machine at full volume, and the output is very quiet |
| 01:19.34 | LSorensen | ddent: a bunch of them depending on the revision. You seem to have the very latest revision, which has a new number |
| 01:19.39 | dondelelcaro | exobyte: generally root:audio, but root.audio should work as well. |
| 01:19.46 | exobyte | cool; |
| 01:19.55 | LSorensen | ddent: I found messages from people that have that excact model working after editing the source to add that id to the list |
| 01:19.55 | exobyte | dondelelcaro: it did. |
| 01:19.57 | quant | do you know how i can reload the /etc/profile file properly? |
| 01:20.05 | ddent | LSorensen: Cool... |
| 01:20.08 | ljlane | djw, there's an ecasound command to amplify. Try searching the man page for amp. |
| 01:20.08 | ddent | LSorensen: I can edit source. |
| 01:20.09 | LSorensen | ddent: makes net install using that card difficult though |
| 01:20.12 | lazarus | quant: you don't "load" it |
| 01:20.13 | ddent | But... |
| 01:20.14 | ddent | Right. |
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| 01:20.17 | ddent | I can't compile shit. |
| 01:20.21 | LSorensen | ddent: chicken/egg issue? |
| 01:20.24 | lazarus | quant: it is sourced as needed (re-login) |
| 01:20.26 | ddent | Yes, more nullshit. |
| 01:20.28 | ddent | bullshit. |
| 01:20.43 | quant | lazarus: there no other way without having to log back in? |
| 01:20.47 | djw | ljlane: I fear the sound card driver, or sound card is to blame |
| 01:20.51 | dondelelcaro | beta3: heh. |
| 01:20.59 | ljlane | djw, try -ea:200 |
| 01:21.00 | LSorensen | ddent: you could pickup a $10 10/100 card and use to install then once it's ready you can build a new kernel with support for the gige card |
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| 01:21.06 | lazarus | quant: why is a login a problem? |
| 01:21.19 | xanxiax | anyone knows how to make gnome icons smaller?? |
| 01:21.26 | ddent | LSorensen: I have em here. |
| 01:21.31 | ddent | But, that's just blah |
| 01:21.31 | lazarus | quant: what are you looking to accomplish? |
| 01:21.39 | quant | lazarus: i just wanted to be able to add the /etc/profile file and have it sourced without the need to log back in |
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| 01:21.43 | LSorensen | ddent: Well new hardware requires time to become supported. |
| 01:21.51 | ddent | Unless the driver is written better. |
| 01:21.54 | quant | s/add the/add to the |
| 01:21.54 | ddent | The old drivers work in windows. |
| 01:21.56 | LSorensen | ddent: I tend to stick with slightly less than bleeding edge hardware on linux systems |
| 01:21.57 | exobyte | how do I show all users? users doesn't seem to do it right |
| 01:22.03 | ddent | Same here. |
| 01:22.05 | lazarus | quant: what is it you want? |
| 01:22.06 | ddent | It's a network card. |
| 01:22.08 | ljlane | LSorensen: what's the deal with the NIC? Can't he just skip it for the installation and compile something later? |
| 01:22.15 | dondelelcaro | exobyte: users shows the logged in users. |
| 01:22.16 | quant | lazarus: i am adding some enviroment variables |
| 01:22.17 | LSorensen | ddent: the driver probably had future IDs pre added. Much easier to do when you are intel |
| 01:22.18 | ddent | I wanted my LAN to be gigabit./ |
| 01:22.22 | djw | ljlane: maybe 1000 will work |
| 01:22.25 | lazarus | quant: are you in bash? |
| 01:22.25 | exobyte | dondelelcaro: heh |
| 01:22.30 | quant | lazarus: yes |
| 01:22.33 | lazarus | quant: 'help export' |
| 01:22.35 | LSorensen | ddent: which it can be after you recompile the kernel |
| 01:22.43 | LSorensen | ddent: as far as I can tell |
| 01:22.44 | lazarus | quant: export FOO=bar |
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| 01:23.05 | DocOliver | is there some way I can get to know why a package has been held back ? |
| 01:23.17 | dondelelcaro | exobyte: if you want all users, just cat /etc/passwd|awk -F \: '{print $1} |
| 01:23.18 | quant | lazarus: i see... thanks a lot |
| 01:23.23 | lazarus | DocOliver: dselect-select |
| 01:23.29 | lazarus | DocOliver: dselect select ratehr |
| 01:23.33 | ljlane | DocOliver, http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/ |
| 01:23.35 | lazarus | quant: np |
| 01:23.40 | dondelelcaro | DocOliver: aptitude can also tell you. |
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| 01:23.55 | shoutt | dammn have you guys seen the new MINI Ipods? |
| 01:23.57 | CSMan2 | hey guys, when i try to sftp to my host i get |
| 01:23.57 | CSMan2 | Protocol major versions differ: 2 vs. 1 |
| 01:23.58 | CSMan2 | Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer |
| 01:24.00 | thomas_adam | dondelelcaro: I thought you used perl? :) |
| 01:24.03 | ljlane | DocOliver: oh, sorry, had another held back on the brain |
| 01:24.05 | DocOliver | aptitude ? |
| 01:24.10 | shoutt | http://www.apple.com/ipodmini/ |
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| 01:24.19 | lazarus | CSMan2: *never* enable the hideously insecure ssh protocol 1 ! |
| 01:24.21 | exobyte | dondelelcaro: I get a prompt from that |
| 01:24.27 | agney | DocOliver: a frontend based on ncurses |
| 01:24.31 | LSorensen | ddent: actually let me recheck the support. I may have missed one place |
| 01:24.32 | CSMan2 | lazarus , how do i disable it? |
| 01:24.32 | exobyte | lazarus: it's no telnet |
| 01:24.38 | dondelelcaro | exobyte: you're probably missing the last ' which seems to have gotten cut off... |
| 01:24.42 | dondelelcaro | exobyte: if you want all users, just cat /etc/passwd|awk -F \: '{print $1}' |
| 01:24.45 | lazarus | CSMan2: which end, client or server? |
| 01:24.46 | agney | DocOliver: of course a frontend to apt |
| 01:24.50 | CSMan2 | lazarus server |
| 01:24.55 | Xenocide | lazarus: hideously insecure? |
| 01:25.00 | Xenocide | i know its got some issues |
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| 01:25.02 | lazarus | CSMan2: vim /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 01:25.03 | _K9_ | hello |
| 01:25.07 | lazarus | Xenocide: yes |
| 01:25.08 | hailstorm | Hi. Do I need to give my user account special permissions to get alsa to work? |
| 01:25.12 | _K9_ | where does mc keep it's history files ? |
| 01:25.13 | CSMan2 | lazarus and then restart ssh? |
| 01:25.30 | lazarus | Xenocide: yeah, /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 01:25.32 | dondelelcaro | thomas_adam: heh. ripping specific fields from a line is something that I know how to get awk (or cut) to do. |
| 01:25.33 | _K9_ | command history and ftp history ? |
| 01:25.37 | quant | lazarus: i export them but they don't show up when you type "set" |
| 01:25.38 | Nurbs | hailstorm: add it to the audio group and relogin |
| 01:25.41 | thomas_adam | dondelelcaro: :) |
| 01:25.41 | Xenocide | but its not like its sending out passwords in cleartext |
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| 01:25.50 | lazarus | Xenocide: and IF you're doing this editing remotely, ssh OUT and then IN again before you exit, to test :) |
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| 01:26.05 | hailstorm | Nurbs: Whats the command for that? I forget :x |
| 01:26.06 | exobyte | dondelelcaro: that worked. Now... How do I check to see which users *can* log in? |
| 01:26.10 | lazarus | Xenocide: no, it's much worse than that |
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| 01:26.19 | Nurbs | hailstorm: adduser |
| 01:26.27 | dondelelcaro | exobyte: all those users with shells generally can log in. |
| 01:26.41 | Xenocide | i dont see how much worse than that it could get |
| 01:26.51 | dondelelcaro | exobyte: there should be a flag for gdm|kdm|xdm to restrict logins to uid's above a certain range in the browser. |
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| 01:27.18 | _K9_ | nerver mind |
| 01:27.25 | lazarus | Xenocide: it's called 'you and all the machines that trust you as a user are now compromised' think: the recent debian.org compromise |
| 01:27.29 | dondelelcaro | exobyte: gdm I think just uses an Exclude line (which is annoying)... but kdm might be more intelligent. |
| 01:27.40 | thomas_adam | kdm sucks |
| 01:27.43 | Xenocide | lazarus: the recent debian.org comprimise was a local root exploit |
| 01:27.48 | Xenocide | in the kernel |
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| 01:27.59 | CSMan2 | lazarus : Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key. How do i generate one? |
| 01:28.03 | Xenocide | passwords in the cleartext is much much worse |
| 01:28.05 | lazarus | Xenocide: because some lame DD (or two) dind't properly secure their home machines |
| 01:28.11 | StuckMojo | my alpha install is proceeding nicely now, thanks for the help guys |
| 01:28.12 | dud- | is there anything I should read before upgrading to kernel 2.6? |
| 01:28.12 | lazarus | CSMan2: no no :) |
| 01:28.18 | StuckMojo | if anyone want's a shell, lemme know ;) |
| 01:28.22 | CSMan2 | huh? |
| 01:28.24 | lazarus | CSMan2: disable *1* ... you *want* 2 :) |
| 01:28.24 | StuckMojo | i'm always in #linpeople |
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| 01:28.31 | StuckMojo | and #postgresql |
| 01:28.41 | hailstorm | adduser -G audio |
| 01:28.45 | hailstorm | ? |
| 01:28.52 | lazarus | CSMan2: 1 is insecure, 2 is currently seen as "safe" |
| 01:28.52 | Nurbs | just "man adduser" |
| 01:28.54 | CSMan2 | lazarus , yeah i left 2, but it didn't start cuz of the host key |
| 01:28.59 | StuckMojo | thanks again |
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| 01:29.05 | Nurbs | hailstorm: read down |
| 01:29.28 | lazarus | CSMan2: man ssh-keygen |
| 01:29.30 | hksdu | if I want to mount my FAT32 D drive from windows 2000 in the same machine, which topic I should search for in How-To? |
| 01:29.31 | Xenocide | CSMan2: at the bottom of the sshd man page should be some related commands |
| 01:29.42 | Xenocide | one of em is pretty obvious if i recall. |
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| 01:29.47 | Xenocide | yes. ssh-keygen |
| 01:29.51 | dondelelcaro | hksdu: man mount, read about vfat |
| 01:29.51 | CSMan2 | ok |
| 01:29.52 | lazarus | CSMan2: man sshd too, ,yes |
| 01:29.53 | LSorensen | hksdu: man mount, look for vfat options |
| 01:29.56 | CSMan2 | cool |
| 01:30.02 | hksdu | thank you very much |
| 01:30.15 | hailstorm | hailstorm: Sorry if I'm being stupid but that made no sense |
| 01:30.20 | hksdu | anyone is using kernel 2.6 now? anything good or special? |
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| 01:30.42 | lazarus | hksdu: /msg dpkg polls |
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| 01:30.43 | Croepha | right now in order to get real outside connections from my school i have to use httptunnel to make these connections throught their http proxy. httptunnel consists of two programs hts and htc. hts usually waits for a single incomming connection from htc. hts forward everything it gets to an IP and PORT. htc waits for a single connection on a specified port and then sends what it gets to htx. The thing that is great about http tunnel is that h |
| 01:30.43 | Croepha | tc and hts can connect over a http proxy and theoretically my school's http proxy( if hts is on port 80 ) The thing that is no great is that the client cannot get more than one connection and your final destination must be preset (this can be over-come if the finnal destination is a proxy (hopefully socks so you can do stuff like putty and irc)) |
| 01:30.53 | hailstorm | oh gawd |
| 01:31.11 | hailstorm | Nurbs: read down? |
| 01:31.17 | exobyte | thomas_adam: should I use gdm, then? |
| 01:31.30 | exobyte | dondelelcaro: how does ssh decide which users can log in? |
| 01:31.33 | ddent | LSorensen: I have god damn |
| 01:31.33 | Croepha | i know, thats a bit much but its a valid question |
| 01:31.37 | exobyte | *sshd |
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| 01:31.48 | ddent | god damn, i just installed debian via cd, kept kernel, etc... |
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| 01:31.52 | Nurbs | hailstorm: there'S different ways to call adduser, heh. |
| 01:31.52 | lazarus | Croepha: where is the question mark? |
| 01:31.56 | ddent | now i want to use dselect with my 7 cd's. |
| 01:32.01 | ddent | and it wont mount my cd |
| 01:32.04 | hksdu | how do I change startx to start up gdm instead of xterm? |
| 01:32.05 | dondelelcaro | exobyte: same was as login does. If they have a valid password for one, and two, if they have a valid shell. |
| 01:32.08 | ddent | how do i get this shit working? |
| 01:32.13 | Croepha | lazarus, your right... shall i redo it? |
| 01:32.16 | LSorensen | ddent: it won't mount cds? |
| 01:32.19 | ddent | right |
| 01:32.20 | ddent | i mean |
| 01:32.22 | LSorensen | ddent: is it the right cd drive? |
| 01:32.23 | ddent | i just installed via cd |
| 01:32.27 | ddent | now it wont mount cd |
| 01:32.29 | ddent | i tried both |
| 01:32.31 | lazarus | Croepha: no, instead ask a question, now that everyone read that |
| 01:32.34 | ddent | including the one from which it originally installed |
| 01:32.36 | LSorensen | ddent: mount /cdrom doesn't work? |
| 01:32.45 | ljlane | Croepha, It wasn't a question at all. Perhaps it got clipped. |
| 01:33.02 | seberino_ | help! autofs works locally but i can't make it mount remote NFS directories |
| 01:33.22 | dondelelcaro | seberino_: are these remote nfs directories specifed in the fstab? |
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| 01:33.26 | Croepha | how can i over come this problem? and forward multiple connections throught one conection? |
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| 01:33.31 | seberino_ | dondelelcaro: no! |
| 01:33.34 | ddent | cdrom: open failed |
| 01:33.36 | ddent | no medium found |
| 01:33.44 | LSorensen | ddent: I found it. 2.4.23 adds support. So if you can get a 2.4.23 kernel image it should work with the e1000 driver it appears |
| 01:33.45 | ddent | ^- results of mount /cdrom |
| 01:33.52 | seberino_ | dondelelcaro: lemmie guess, they must be? |
| 01:33.55 | dondelelcaro | seberino_: yerp. |
| 01:33.58 | ddent | LSorensen: Now I just have to HACk together a machine to build that kernel. |
| 01:34.03 | lazarus | simonrvn: now it got ugly on me, after all that time :( |
| 01:34.05 | seberino_ | dondelelcaro: how much do i owe you? :) |
| 01:34.07 | dondelelcaro | seberino_: autofs won't mount things that aren't specified there (iirc) |
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| 01:34.10 | ddent | LSorensen: Starting with being able to mount my damn cdrom. |
| 01:34.11 | ddent | wtf |
| 01:34.26 | seberino_ | dondelelcaro: thanks, it was getting really frustrating |
| 01:34.26 | hksdu | ddent: why don't you use apt-cdrom? |
| 01:34.28 | RetroFlash | Can anyone msg me to help me figure out why my cdroms wont mount anymore...Any help is appreciated. |
| 01:34.32 | lazarus | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.32 | lazarus | drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x801ea): In function `ide_hwif_setup_dma': |
| 01:34.33 | lazarus | : undefined reference to `ide_setup_dma' |
| 01:34.35 | ddent | hksdu: Sure, sounds good, whatever. |
| 01:34.37 | ddent | cdrom dont mount |
| 01:34.41 | ddent | see that as a problem? |
| 01:34.42 | Croepha | hmm, no bites |
| 01:35.07 | ddent | i do\ |
| 01:35.07 | dondelelcaro | seberino_: np. I think that's the answer... been a while since I've mucked with autofs though... |
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| 01:35.13 | RetroFlash | Heh |
| 01:35.17 | durin42 | i need some maillist software. Mailman isn't an option, as it made the system too slow to be practical...any thoughts? |
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| 01:35.30 | hksdu | can't mount cdrom? what cdrom is that? |
| 01:35.35 | dondelelcaro | durin42: smartlist, etc. |
| 01:35.37 | beta3 | lazarus: what are you building? |
| 01:35.39 | hailstorm | Nurbs. addgroup hailstorm audio. Simple. Thanks for the help |
| 01:35.45 | beta3 | lazarus: 2.6.0-rc2? |
| 01:35.46 | lazarus | beta3: 2.6.0 |
| 01:35.55 | beta3 | lazarus: s/0/1/ |
| 01:35.58 | durin42 | dondelelcaro thanks |
| 01:35.59 | LSorensen | ddent: what does it say to 'mount /cdrom'? |
| 01:36.01 | lazarus | beta3: ugh, no, i don't trtust rcs, ,too many problems |
| 01:36.18 | ddent | <ddent> cdrom: open failed |
| 01:36.18 | ddent | <ddent> no medium found |
| 01:36.19 | beta3 | lazarus: rc2 doesn't have the hole that the latest security report found |
| 01:36.27 | dondelelcaro | ddent: apt-cache search mailing list for a authoritative list. |
| 01:36.34 | ddent | cdrom: open failed |
| 01:36.39 | beta3 | lazarus: Im running -rc1-mm2 here, works great |
| 01:36.40 | lazarus | beta3: yes, i manually patched mm/mre* |
| 01:36.40 | ddent | mount: No medium found. |
| 01:36.45 | ddent | Or very similar. |
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| 01:36.52 | ddent | dondelelcaro: What? |
| 01:36.53 | exobyte | dondelelcaro: the reason I ask is that there are many users listed (sshd, backup, ...) that I didn't manually make and set a password for. What keeps someone from using ssh to log in as one of them? |
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| 01:36.55 | ddent | dondelelcaro: I don't have internet. |
| 01:36.57 | LSorensen | ddent: no matter which drive you put the disk in? |
| 01:37.01 | lazarus | beta3: whatever that file was named |
| 01:37.02 | ddent | LSorensen: Right. |
| 01:37.02 | Lanlost | hey whats the name of the virtual keyboard program |
| 01:37.02 | dondelelcaro | s/ddent/durin42/ |
| 01:37.05 | CSMan2 | lazarus i do have a /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key |
| 01:37.06 | Lanlost | i accidently closed it.. |
| 01:37.08 | LSorensen | ddent: ls -l /dev/cdrom |
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| 01:37.12 | PingLH | how do I extract a .tgz file? |
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| 01:37.21 | LSorensen | PingLH: use tar |
| 01:37.21 | thomas_adam | PingLH: tar xzvf |
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| 01:37.27 | ddent | It exists... |
| 01:37.29 | Lanlost | hey whats the name of the virtual keyboard program? I accidently closed it |
| 01:37.32 | ddent | points to -> sr0 |
| 01:37.33 | LSorensen | ddent: what does it point to? |
| 01:37.35 | beta3 | lazarus: whatever |
| 01:37.39 | hksdu | is tar.gz same as .tgz? |
| 01:37.44 | thomas_adam | hksdu: yes |
| 01:37.45 | dondelelcaro | exobyte: because those users have an invalid password (that a hash can't possibly match) and an invalid shell. |
| 01:37.46 | CSMan2 | why is it saying could not load host key |
| 01:37.49 | mentor | Lanlost: for which environment? |
| 01:37.49 | lazarus | hksdu: no, one has more letters |
| 01:37.55 | thomas_adam | lazarus: pedant |
| 01:37.55 | LSorensen | ddent: hmm, that is odd. try: modprobe ide-scsi |
| 01:38.00 | beta3 | lazarus: I use the latest rcs with the latest mm patch |
| 01:38.03 | Lanlost | debian.. the xfree one |
| 01:38.14 | ddent | Can't locate ide-scsi |
| 01:38.14 | Lanlost | the one thats default when you install xebian 1.0.0 |
| 01:38.14 | beta3 | lazarus: erm, actually i just have a bk tree |
| 01:38.14 | lazarus | thomas_adam: fileNAMES are irrelevant anyway, man file :P |
| 01:38.17 | exobyte | dondelelcaro: ah- cool. thx |
| 01:38.24 | thomas_adam | lazarus: and they're not letters, they're characters in this instance :) |
| 01:38.30 | ddent | modprobe: Can't locate module ide-scsi |
| 01:38.35 | LSorensen | ddent: ok then. |
| 01:38.40 | mentor | Lanlost: er...Debian 1.0.0 was hamm wasn't it? |
| 01:38.49 | ddent | This fancy special iso I got is crap then right? |
| 01:38.50 | lazarus | thomas_adam: pedant :P |
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| 01:38.54 | ddent | As was my very original concern. |
| 01:38.55 | thomas_adam | lazarus: heh ;) |
| 01:38.55 | Lanlost | hamm? |
| 01:38.59 | Lanlost | yeah i guesss |
| 01:39.01 | Lanlost | im talking the |
| 01:39.05 | Lanlost | .. please guys just tell me the damn name of it |
| 01:39.11 | Lanlost | the one that comes with the xbox debian release 1.0.0 |
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| 01:39.12 | LSorensen | ddent: dmesg | grep "ATAPI CD" |
| 01:39.18 | Lanlost | the keyboard.. .. do you want a screenshot? |
| 01:39.23 | lazarus | beta3: any clue how to get this to compile? |
| 01:39.26 | mentor | Lanlost: Xbox Debian? ah...not here says I. |
| 01:39.29 | LoRez | Lanlost: try #xebian |
| 01:39.31 | LSorensen | ddent: well not crap, but doesn't help since the NIC is just too new |
| 01:39.31 | dondelelcaro | exobyte: FE, if you check /etc/shadow, you'll see a sshd:!: entry. There's no hash that matches !. |
| 01:39.35 | mentor | Lanlost: Wrong Channel. |
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| 01:39.41 | ddent | Both are found |
| 01:39.43 | lazarus | beta3: i wait hours, and then it barfs, without anything more verbose :( |
| 01:39.49 | ddent | hdb and hdd |
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| 01:39.55 | mavx | Anybody here use an nVidia Geforce 4 with a 2.6 kernel? (or know how I might be able to get the nvidia drivers to compile without modversions.h) |
| 01:40.03 | beta3 | lazarus: unpatch -mm*, download -rc1, download -mm2' |
| 01:40.11 | beta3 | lazarus: patch it |
| 01:40.18 | lazarus | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:40.18 | lazarus | drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x801ea): In function `ide_hwif_setup_dma': |
| 01:40.18 | lazarus | : undefined reference to `ide_setup_dma' |
| 01:40.20 | ddent | LSorensen: the dmesg grep shows both cd rom drives. |
| 01:40.25 | ddent | LSorensen: at hdb and hdd |
| 01:40.29 | hksdu | mavx: why not using nvidia driver? |
| 01:40.36 | beta3 | lazarus: I already saw, what machine are you compiling on |
| 01:40.40 | lazarus | make[1]: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 |
| 01:40.40 | lazarus | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/usrsrc/kernel-source-2.6.0' |
| 01:40.48 | lazarus | beta3: on? or for? |
| 01:40.55 | mavx | hksdu X claims no devices found, and the driver from nvidia wont compile because it cant find modversions.h |
| 01:41.12 | Nurbs | mavx: www.minion.de for a 2.6 patcg |
| 01:41.21 | beta3 | lazarus: your using debian sources? |
| 01:41.25 | hksdu | mavx: you using 2.6? |
| 01:41.28 | beta3 | lazarus: no wonder its broken |
| 01:41.31 | mavx | hksdu, yes |
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| 01:41.37 | lazarus | beta3: no, ,i'm using a decent tarball :) kernel.org |
| 01:41.44 | ddent | Will Linux/Debian accept a network connection from a crossover cable which is coming from my Windows 2003 Server machine? |
| 01:41.48 | mavx | Nurbs, what does the patch do? |
| 01:41.52 | ddent | (and gigabit at that) |
| 01:41.56 | Nurbs | mavx; read :) |
| 01:42.00 | hksdu | mavx: sorry I know nothing about 2.6, cuz I can't configure 2.6 also |
| 01:42.01 | beta3 | lazarus: ok, then do this |
| 01:42.14 | mavx | Nurbs, a little difficult here |
| 01:42.27 | ddent | The machine is 192.168.0.2 in Windows, I expect I will just set the same in Linux, and it will work... |
| 01:42.29 | lazarus | beta3: linux-2.6.0.tar.bz2.sign checks out btw |
| 01:42.31 | ddent | Am I sadly mistaken? |
| 01:42.32 | hksdu | ddent: it doesn't really matter, as long as you have correct driver installed for your ethernet, it should work |
| 01:42.33 | beta3 | lazarus: wget http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/patch-2.6.1-rc1.bz2 http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.1-rc1/2.6.1-rc1-mm2/2.6.1-rc1-mm2.bz2 |
| 01:42.35 | Nurbs | mavx: how come? |
| 01:42.40 | ddent | hksdu: Thought so. |
| 01:42.42 | ddent | Just wanted to check. |
| 01:42.47 | lazarus | beta3: no, i don't do "testing" here |
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| 01:42.59 | LSorensen | ddent: I wonder if the new debian installer beta uses 2.4.23 or 2.4.22 |
| 01:43.02 | beta3 | lazarus: its more stable than "Stable" |
| 01:43.05 | ddent | LSorensen: hahaha |
| 01:43.13 | lazarus | beta3: i want a stable kernel release, with that manual change |
| 01:43.16 | Nurbs | mavx: lynx or links (or whatever) should suffice |
| 01:43.19 | LSorensen | ddent: it would work if it used 2.4.23 but it would not work using 2.4.22 |
| 01:43.32 | ddent | Days like this make me wonder if I shoulda become a drug addict. |
| 01:43.42 | beta3 | lazarus: whatever, then wait a week, it ought to be release by then |
| 01:43.52 | ddent | LSorensen: Where can I find info? |
| 01:44.04 | seberino_ | dondelelcaro: if i put stuff in fstab won't they be mounted automatically at boottime defeating purpose of autofs? |
| 01:44.06 | lazarus | beta3: you're saying to leave the machine open to exploitation for a week? no thanks |
| 01:44.19 | sirReal | ddent: it's never too late |
| 01:44.28 | ddent | sirReal: 17 |
| 01:44.31 | beta3 | lazarus: which mm patch did you use |
| 01:44.34 | mitchix_ | i thought the 2.4.22 exploit required a local login?? |
| 01:44.37 | ddent | sirReal: no wait... green |
| 01:44.38 | lazarus | beta3: i typed it manually |
| 01:44.42 | lazarus | beta3: why? |
| 01:44.55 | beta3 | lazarus: you typed what manually? |
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| 01:45.01 | ddent | sirReal: iow, wtf are you talkin about? |
| 01:45.07 | lazarus | beta3: sigh |
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| 01:45.29 | ddent | sirReal: Ok, I am a drug addict. |
| 01:45.33 | ddent | sirReal: Sorry. |
| 01:45.47 | ddent | sirReal: Err, I mean thanks. |
| 01:45.58 | beta3 | lazarus: whatever, my 2.6.1-rc1-mm1-dw2 is much more stable than that :) |
| 01:46.10 | Nurbs | dw2? |
| 01:46.11 | lazarus | beta3: mm/mremap.c |
| 01:46.18 | beta3 | Dan Weber :) |
| 01:46.25 | lazarus | beta3: what are you talking about? |
| 01:46.36 | Nurbs | beta3: what does it include? :) |
| 01:46.39 | droopy_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:46.49 | lazarus | beta3: if (!(old_len | new_len)) |
| 01:46.55 | lazarus | beta3: goto out; |
| 01:46.58 | beta3 | Nurbs: its just my release version |
| 01:47.03 | Nurbs | ah |
| 01:47.07 | lazarus | beta3: 319/320 |
| 01:47.11 | LSorensen | ddent: I am just grabbing a copy of the latest debianinstaller for sarge to see what kernel it has |
| 01:47.23 | beta3 | Nurbs: -dw1 didn't support ipv6 |
| 01:47.31 | Nurbs | beta3: 2.6.1-rc1-mm1-aes-mojo-jojo-20040102 :) |
| 01:47.58 | lazarus | Nurbs: if you're so bleeding edge, why isn't that rc2? |
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| 01:48.08 | ddent | LSorensen: Cool, is there perhaps a deb of 2.4.23 I could put on a cd and just run? |
| 01:48.16 | beta3 | lazarus: rc2 doesn't have an mm patch yet |
| 01:48.20 | ddent | I am rebooting the machine. |
| 01:48.26 | beta3 | Nurbs: your mm patch is old :( |
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| 01:48.38 | cafuego | beta3: SHouldn't be long, Linus did a bad fix fior the latest rootbug |
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| 01:48.52 | Nurbs | beta3: not too old, though. I follow the changelogs, it looks ok :) |
| 01:49.05 | Nurbs | beta3: for my purposes that is, heh |
| 01:49.18 | ddent | Debian costs so much :p |
| 01:49.20 | Nurbs | lazarus: because of mm, and because I'm not up-to-date everyday, heh |
| 01:49.31 | ddent | You pay out the ear and usually get treated like dirt. |
| 01:49.37 | ddent | Same with Windows/. |
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| 01:49.45 | lazarus | ddent: troll elsewhere |
| 01:49.48 | LSorensen | ddent: well you can just install using a kernel, you need other things too |
| 01:49.54 | mavx | Nurbs, thank you for the link |
| 01:49.55 | ddent | So, when you use both, in order to satisfy two different types of customers, you're doubly screwed. |
| 01:50.01 | lazarus | ddent: troll elsewhere |
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| 01:50.18 | ddent | lazarus: oh it's a joke kid, cry elsewhere |
| 01:50.35 | LSorensen | ddent: nope still uses 2.4.22 :( |
| 01:50.40 | ddent | LSorensen: wah wah |
| 01:50.46 | Nurbs | mavx: now that you say it, I do already have a patched installer for 5328 or something around, but OTOH my line is quite slow :) |
| 01:51.16 | mavx | there was a link to a working installer |
| 01:51.20 | mavx | on minion.de |
| 01:51.40 | LSorensen | ddent: if you used a different NIC to netinstall debian unstable, you could then apt-get update and apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.23-1-k7 and have the other nic work afterwards |
| 01:51.42 | ddent | Rebooted, cdrom mounts. |
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| 01:51.46 | LSorensen | ddent: but still a pain |
| 01:51.55 | lazarus | ddent: wtf is your problem? STOP /MSG'ING ME! /topic ! |
| 01:51.56 | kingsley | Can Linus use SCSI and traditional ATA drives simultaneously? |
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| 01:52.12 | mavx | now I just have to fix this screwy mouse behavior |
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| 01:52.18 | Nurbs | mavx: well, yes. but mine is already packaged and such, I could have put it on HTTP or FTP, which saves some work :) |
| 01:52.24 | LSorensen | kingsley: Linus can do whatever he wants. Linux can even do it |
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| 01:52.41 | CSMan2 | now that the key problem is solved, i get this: Request for subsystem 'sftp' failed on channel 0 |
| 01:52.46 | kingsley | LSorensen: D'oh! (Duly noted) |
| 01:52.48 | mavx | Nurbs, perhaps ;) |
| 01:52.54 | CSMan2 | Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer |
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| 01:53.27 | lazarus | ddent: wtf is your problem? STOP /MSG'ING ME! /topic ! |
| 01:53.31 | mavx | Anybody had their mouse behave in such a way that X thought it was always dragging around scrollbars and such (by just moving around) |
| 01:53.59 | droopy_ | ]/quit |
| 01:54.03 | polok | my scrollwheel won't work >_< |
| 01:54.14 | dud- | what's the fastest way to uninstall kde? |
| 01:54.15 | kingsley | mavx: Yes, when the edge of a button was stuck under the lip of my keyboard. |
| 01:54.19 | mentor | polok: Whip it harder. |
| 01:54.26 | mentor | ~tell polok about wheel mouse |
| 01:54.28 | ddent | lazarus: troll elsewhere |
| 01:54.29 | lazarus | ddent: wtf is your problem? STOP /MSG'ING ME! /topic ! |
| 01:54.34 | exobyte | is there a way to hide a user's icon in kdm? |
| 01:54.39 | lazarus | ddent: wtf is your problem? STOP /MSG'ING ME! /topic ! |
| 01:54.44 | ddent | lazarus: troll elsewhere |
| 01:54.46 | lazarus | can i get an op to /msg me please? |
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| 01:54.50 | lazarus | ddent: wtf is your problem? STOP /MSG'ING ME! /topic ! |
| 01:54.51 | cafuego | !tell lazarus about repeat |
| 01:54.55 | cafuego | !tell ddent about repeat |
| 01:55.01 | ddent | lazarus: !topic |
| 01:55.02 | mentor | !tell ddent about msg |
| 01:55.05 | thomas_adam | !tell cafuego about repeat |
| 01:55.11 | thomas_adam | cafuego: you repeated the repeat action :) |
| 01:55.13 | mavx | kingsley, too bad that is not the case for me ;p |
| 01:55.14 | lazarus | can i get an op to /msg me please? |
| 01:55.16 | cafuego | Can you to lovebirds either /ignore eachother or find an empty channel? |
| 01:55.17 | ddent | !tell #debian about /clear |
| 01:55.32 | thomas_adam | kingsley: ;) |
| 01:55.36 | caphuso | lazarus, ddent: whatever you are doing, stop it |
| 01:55.37 | mike | how can you set up a network connection. I did not have the wire hooked up during the install |
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| 01:55.54 | thomas_adam | mike: man 5 interfaces |
| 01:55.55 | lazarus | caphuso: i can't "stop" being /msg'd unwantedly by this troll |
| 01:56.04 | ddent | Just asked him if he was bored and he started puttin on a show like a disgruntled wife in a restaurant. |
| 01:56.05 | cafuego | !cricket thomas_adam |
| 01:56.11 | thomas_adam | cafuego: ;) |
| 01:56.15 | caphuso | lazarus: yes, you can. use your brain (for once) and the /ignore command |
| 01:56.18 | rnc | I'm about to buy a laptop and dualboot it with debian, what do you guys recommend: a Sony VAIO PCG-FRV37, or a Toshiba A25 S307 ? |
| 01:56.19 | ddent | lazarus: troll elsewhere |
| 01:56.30 | cafuego | rnc: Well, Sony are evil. |
| 01:56.36 | lazarus | caphuso: is someone about to deal with him or what? |
| 01:56.55 | lazarus | caphuso: if you like, i can set it up to forward his msg's to you, if yu need proof |
| 01:57.02 | cafuego | HE STARTED!!! |
| 01:57.09 | thomas_adam | FFS |
| 01:57.11 | thomas_adam | drop it |
| 01:57.24 | rnc | cafuego: as in crappy hardware ? bad support ? or bad linux compliance ? |
| 01:57.24 | mike | Thomas_adam - the man 5 interfaces does show up - Isnt there like a wizard to run |
| 01:57.32 | Xenguy | We can ignore you both if you like :p |
| 01:57.39 | cafuego | rnc: As in "funds the riaa/mpaa" |
| 01:57.41 | thomas_adam | mike: wizard? This is not windows |
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| 01:57.45 | mentor | lazarus: Use the servers or your clients ignore function to stop PMs. If you do not understand how, please ask. Else shut up or be shut up |
| 01:57.54 | ddent | haha |
| 01:58.00 | cafuego | rnc: most of their hadrware should run linux OK, but they're EVIL ;-) |
| 01:58.05 | sone | lazarus!*@* added to ignore list. ddent!*@* added to ignore list |
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| 01:58.29 | rnc | root has left the building |
| 01:58.32 | rnc | cafuego: oh i see |
| 01:58.34 | Autista | speak spanish? |
| 01:58.38 | cafuego | !spanish |
| 01:58.39 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 01:58.39 | caphuso | ~+spanish |
| 01:58.40 | | [spanish] much easier though. Fewer vowels, and more phonetic. |
| 01:58.44 | Autista | i can install debian |
| 01:58.45 | caphuso | damn |
| 01:58.50 | cafuego | muaha |
| 01:58.53 | Autista | quiero instalar debian |
| 01:58.55 | caphuso | did i ever mention that i hate this new apt? |
| 01:58.59 | mentor | ~bite caphuso |
| 01:59.03 | | ACTION takes a big bite out of caphuso's jugular vein |
| 01:59.03 | beta3 | lazarus: set mode +E |
| 01:59.05 | Autista | entre a www.linuxiso.org |
| 01:59.08 | thomas_adam | cafuego: many a time, yes |
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| 01:59.22 | mentor | apt no spanish is <reply>Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 01:59.24 | | mentor: okay |
| 01:59.31 | Autista | ok |
| 01:59.38 | cafuego | rnc: Have you had a look over www.linux-laptop.net to see if anyone else uses either of those two? |
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| 01:59.52 | CSMan2 | what's the name of that sftp client that comes with name completion? |
| 02:00.29 | caphuso | CSMan2: use lftp's fish support |
| 02:00.30 | lazarus | beta3: thanks |
| 02:00.53 | rnc | cafuego: yes. I basicaly asked here in order to collect any good/bad experiences regarding toshiba VS sony |
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| 02:01.12 | dud- | what's the easiest way to uninstall kde? |
| 02:01.17 | CSMan2 | caphuso is there a package for that? |
| 02:01.18 | cafuego | rnc: Well all my toshiba laptops work just fine (i have no sony equipment) |
| 02:01.20 | mike | Sorry I am spoiled. I checked ifup after and su and it is up. I did not have to mess with the config files. |
| 02:01.23 | sone | kdebase |
| 02:01.30 | dud- | ok |
| 02:01.32 | dud- | thank you |
| 02:01.41 | caphuso | CSMan2: uh, yes. it's called 'lftp' |
| 02:01.46 | cafuego | dud-: kdelibs4 I think, also see 'debfoster' |
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| 02:01.58 | sone | oh yeah that sounds better |
| 02:02.14 | dud- | yeah, kdebase just gets rid of 64.1 k of stuff |
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| 02:02.25 | mike | Now that I have the network up - How can I run the XIRc from the debian box - I am currently using a redhat box with XIRc already installed |
| 02:02.26 | rnc | cafuego: yeah. I'll probably end up buying toshiba. I just with I could find a centrino model around, but it's hard to find here |
| 02:02.27 | beta3 | dud-: kdelibs4 |
| 02:02.30 | rnc | one from the M35 series |
| 02:02.31 | dud- | that works |
| 02:02.33 | dud- | rad |
| 02:02.37 | dud- | thank you |
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| 02:02.50 | cafuego | rnc: Keep in mind that centrino wifi isn't supported by Linux |
| 02:02.58 | rnc | :/ |
| 02:03.03 | debian | :/ |
| 02:03.05 | beta3 | cafuego: no? |
| 02:03.10 | cafuego | ... and may never be. |
| 02:03.14 | beta3 | cafuego: not been implemented yet? |
| 02:03.15 | debian | :\ |
| 02:03.19 | beta3 | cafuego: why is that? |
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| 02:03.22 | cafuego | beta3: No, well... 'no" is not entirely correct. |
| 02:03.24 | Justin_ | !tell mike bout sshx |
| 02:03.26 | rnc | debian: you rock btw ;) |
| 02:03.27 | cafuego | beta3: specs |
| 02:03.28 | dud- | are there any packages I need to install before I upgrade to kernel 2.6? |
| 02:03.45 | Xenguy | dud-: module-init-tools, for one |
| 02:03.51 | dud- | yeah, I got that one |
| 02:03.53 | dud- | anything else? |
| 02:03.54 | cafuego | There is a centrino driver which is a wrapper for the windows binary driver |
| 02:04.00 | rnc | cafuego: eek |
| 02:04.07 | nevyn | ndisloader |
| 02:04.12 | cafuego | ndiswrapper |
| 02:04.25 | nevyn | that.. |
| 02:04.34 | Xenguy | dud-: FYI - http://thomer.com/linux/migrate-to-2.6.html |
| 02:04.37 | jwal | There is a 2.6.0-1 package - fantastic! It happens, though, that the initrd is just over the 4096KB default ramdisk size. ramdisk_size=8192 kernel parameter fixed the problem for me. |
| 02:04.39 | cafuego | approximately satan++ |
| 02:04.59 | dud- | Xenguy, thank you... that's exactly what I was looking for |
| 02:05.01 | cafuego | rnc: You wanting to dual boot it windoze and linux? |
| 02:05.04 | Justin_ | cafuego: satan+1 |
| 02:05.06 | Xenguy | dud-: welcome |
| 02:05.17 | cafuego | Justin_: satan += 1 |
| 02:05.17 | rnc | cafuego: definitely. |
| 02:05.25 | Justin_ | cafuego: satan++ would increment satan too which is not what you mean |
| 02:05.30 | Justin_ | ndisloader > satan |
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| 02:05.32 | cafuego | rnc: Ok... coz as an alternative, Apple has very nice laptops. |
| 02:05.32 | beta3 | cafuego: so if intel would release specs, it would probably be supported? |
| 02:05.49 | Justin_ | apple, the other monopoly |
| 02:05.55 | cafuego | beta3: yes, or if kernel developers could afford the fees for the specs |
| 02:06.12 | cafuego | Justin_: ++satan then |
| 02:06.14 | rnc | yeah, but unfortunately i really need windows around, for job stuff |
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| 02:06.25 | PingLH | if my mouse wheel is not working how do i get it working? |
| 02:06.27 | Justin_ | cafuego: no, just satan+1 :-) |
| 02:06.28 | rnc | toshiba it is then :) |
| 02:06.44 | cafuego | rnc: My new one is an HP, very nice too :-) |
| 02:06.56 | debian | !karma satan |
| 02:06.56 | dpkg | satan has neutral karma |
| 02:06.59 | debian | my God |
| 02:07.01 | rnc | cafuego: hmm, which model ? |
| 02:07.04 | cafuego | satan you're a fucking good dancer, but you can't foxtrot like me! |
| 02:07.22 | cafuego | rnc: second-cheapest ;-) nx9005 (Athlon XP-M 2000+) |
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| 02:08.07 | debian | rnc: real man uses Thinkpad. :) |
| 02:08.24 | cafuego | debian: You'll also be amused to know the song my XMMS is currently plaing is "/mnt/mp3/Orbital/Live in Seattle/09. Satan.mp3" |
| 02:08.29 | rnc | cafuego: oh really ? i was avoiding those. Any heat problems ? |
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| 02:08.34 | cafuego | rnc: Nope |
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| 02:09.56 | debian | cafuego: that reminds me of a computer games I don't recall, which has a scene of bowing to Satan to complete the game. A local retard told the press he has seen Satan in his dream after complete the game. |
| 02:09.59 | cafuego | rnc: Just less configurable then others, i wanted the largest screen possibly but that wasn't available on that one |
| 02:10.04 | debian | cafuego: prepare to meet him tonight. :) |
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| 02:10.18 | cafuego | debian: I meet myself all the time, dear. |
| 02:10.59 | thinkgeek | Hi again |
| 02:11.06 | debian | !smite cafuego |
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| 02:11.25 | cafuego | !catsmite debian |
| 02:11.35 | debian | thinkgeek: what is .es? :) |
| 02:11.45 | mike1223 | What is a good apt sources list to use |
| 02:11.55 | thinkgeek | debian: Uh? ;) |
| 02:11.59 | thinkgeek | debian: Spain |
| 02:12.01 | cafuego | mike1223: apt-get install apt-spy; apt-spy |
| 02:12.07 | debian | thinkgeek: oh, silly me. thx |
| 02:12.19 | cafuego | debian: Your grammar is making my eyes bleed |
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| 02:12.25 | debian | !rahulstrike cafuego |
| 02:12.26 | dpkg | A huge rahul decends from the sky, attempting to hit cafuego but misses, leaving a trail of rahul mush behind. |
| 02:12.26 | thinkgeek | debian: xD |
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| 02:12.46 | mike1223 | apt-fly - is the source like a web site url |
| 02:12.49 | debian | cafuego: don't be picky at a non-native speaker |
| 02:13.16 | cafuego | debian: I damn well will be, not being a native speaker msyelf. |
| 02:13.24 | chris` | debian: If you can't get it right then don't use the language at all |
| 02:13.28 | ddent | There's not like all kinds of crazy crap I will need to update from 3.0r1 to compile the kernel I need right? |
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| 02:13.29 | dondelelcaro | kitten on its on kittens on their |
| 02:13.32 | ddent | 2.4.23 |
| 02:13.36 | debian | cafuego: yes, your native is satanish. :) |
| 02:13.48 | cafuego | debian: close 'nuff ;-) |
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| 02:14.00 | debian | chris`: then nobody would learn anthing other than his native tongue |
| 02:14.05 | wiz | is there anyway to have seperate wallpapers for each display when using xinerama and kde? |
| 02:14.17 | cafuego | wiz: Not with xinerama, no. |
| 02:14.21 | debian | chris`: may be by your logic nobody should learn any language at all. :) |
| 02:14.22 | chris` | debian: You assume people actually want to talk to each other |
| 02:14.27 | cafuego | wiz: With 2 seperate desktops, yes. |
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| 02:14.34 | debian | chris`: arh...you're right. :) |
| 02:14.44 | dondelelcaro | chris`: I suggest a /ignore * then. |
| 02:14.47 | debian | chris`: my parents forced me to learn to speak. :) |
| 02:15.15 | cafuego | debian: Surely only because the oppressive chinese regime MADE them ;-) |
| 02:15.16 | wiz | cafuego: bah that sucks, I like having one shared desktop, but wallpapers look lame split in half on the screens :( |
| 02:15.41 | cafuego | wiz: Just use gimp and paste 2 of 'em into one. |
| 02:15.52 | rnc | ahhaha |
| 02:16.03 | wiz | cafuego: god... why didn't I think of that lol |
| 02:16.08 | chris` | dondelelcaro: nah, I'll just ignore your suggestion |
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| 02:16.18 | ddent | LSorensen: Are you sure it was 2.4.23 not 2.4.24? |
| 02:16.20 | cafuego | wiz: You haven't had the prerequisite 15 espressos |
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| 02:16.29 | wiz | heh |
| 02:16.35 | wiz | thx cafuego |
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| 02:16.38 | debian | cafuego: there're only two kind of people: oppressors and oppressees. |
| 02:16.42 | mike1223 | I am getting an unrecoverable error on running apt-spy , could not retrieve list from debian.org |
| 02:16.46 | bob2 | !scratch helix` |
| 02:16.48 | Devsforev | Everyone; I have a crisis.......... well, not really, lmao. In gkrellm, the free space on my file server won't be shown even when I have the correct mount points set up. I think i found the problem after running df. The mountpoint is using NFS. Here it is: "bash-2.05b$ df /mnt/network/home Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on df: `/mnt/network/home': Value too large for defined data type" |
| 02:16.51 | helix` | !spank bob2 |
| 02:16.52 | bob2 | mike1223: What does the BTS say? (/msg apt bts) |
| 02:17.01 | cafuego | nornin, bob&helix |
| 02:17.06 | debian | cafuego: I use that in my economics paper and my professor isn't very happy about it. :) |
| 02:17.06 | helix` | hola |
| 02:17.11 | thinkgeek | I can't print with lpd yet :/ |
| 02:17.14 | debian | !hug helix |
| 02:17.23 | thinkgeek | I got a Brother HL-1430 printer. |
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| 02:17.34 | dondelelcaro | Devsforev: uh, how big is /mnt/network/home? |
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| 02:17.45 | dondelelcaro | Devsforev: or is df just reading garbage? |
| 02:17.47 | helix` | debian: thanks :) |
| 02:17.48 | Devsforev | dondelelcaro, it is 80gigs |
| 02:18.01 | dondelelcaro | hrm. that's not that huge... |
| 02:18.03 | Xenguy | thinkgeek: try CUPS (I just got a Brother HL-1440) |
| 02:18.09 | Devsforev | dondelelcaro, the share works just fine too, which makes me wonder why it's not reporting back the size |
| 02:18.19 | Xenguy | thinkgeek: check for linux compatibility at linuxprinting.org |
| 02:18.25 | cafuego | Icky... those debians are all antlers ans slime |
| 02:18.29 | bob2 | Devsforev: NFSv3? |
| 02:18.31 | bob2 | cafuego: howdy |
| 02:18.42 | debian | :\ |
| 02:18.47 | Devsforev | bob2, correct |
| 02:18.48 | mike1223 | bob - i dont have a /msg directory ?? |
| 02:19.01 | thinkgeek | Xenguy: I got lpd drivers for this printer from brother homepage |
| 02:19.03 | bob2 | mike1223: that's nice. maybe it's a command for your IRC client? |
| 02:19.14 | bob2 | Devsforev: does nfs3 support enormous disks? |
| 02:19.20 | Devsforev | bob2, I compiled my server with NFSv3, as well as my clients; is there a way to check if it is using NFS? |
| 02:19.21 | Xenguy | thinkgeek: linuxprinting.org may have free drivers |
| 02:19.28 | bob2 | Devsforev: ie, does google give you any hints either way? |
| 02:19.34 | Devsforev | bob2, i don't know, but I would immagine it should |
| 02:19.34 | thinkgeek | I got an 20 characters password for root and this is embrassing :/ |
| 02:19.34 | bob2 | Devsforev: um, "dmesg" maybe? |
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| 02:19.42 | cafuego | Devsforev: If either of those boxes running a 2.2 kernel? |
| 02:19.50 | bob2 | Devsforev: well, nfs3 is many years old, and 80GB disks were unheard of ~3 years ago. |
| 02:20.17 | Devsforev | bob2, is there a newer version of NFS? |
| 02:20.25 | bob2 | Devsforev: ooh, is there openbsd on the network anywhere? |
| 02:20.34 | Devsforev | bob2, no openbsd |
| 02:20.42 | Xenguy | thinkgeek: good news -> http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Brother-HL-1430 |
| 02:20.47 | knoppix | is debian pakgs ever again gona be back ? |
| 02:20.51 | Devsforev | cafuego, no boxes are running 2.2 |
| 02:20.53 | dondelelcaro | knoppix: yes. |
| 02:20.58 | cafuego | knoppix: apt-get install apt-file |
| 02:21.16 | knoppix | whats apt-file ? |
| 02:21.23 | thinkgeek | Xenguy: I saw that yet. /etc/printcap already configured. I think some PS utilities. |
| 02:21.37 | thinkgeek | I think I missed some PS utilities :) |
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| 02:22.19 | Xenguy | thinkgeek: ? |
| 02:22.19 | bob2 | Devsforev: 4. |
| 02:22.19 | knoppix | what is apt-file ? |
| 02:22.19 | Xenguy | knoppix: apt-cache show apt-file |
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| 02:22.22 | knoppix | what it dor ? |
| 02:22.27 | knoppix | for |
| 02:22.28 | dondelelcaro | mwhahahahah: A> lpadmin -E -p printername -E is acceptable. |
| 02:22.28 | dondelelcaro | A> First -E means encryption, Second -E means enable the printer. |
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| 02:22.32 | cafuego | knoppix: the same as pdo |
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| 02:22.42 | knoppix | whats pdo ? |
| 02:22.48 | cafuego | knoppix: #knoppix |
| 02:22.54 | thinkgeek | Xenguy: That's right. With lpd, printer uses a filter. This filter needs ghostscript packages and a2ps package too to work :) |
| 02:22.55 | knoppix | im baned |
| 02:22.59 | helix` | hahaha |
| 02:23.00 | cafuego | wonder why |
| 02:23.02 | bob2 | hahaha |
| 02:23.05 | debian | hahahaa |
| 02:23.06 | knoppix | not any more |
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| 02:23.21 | lazarus | knoppix: this is #debian, if you're banned from #knoppix, what's that to us? |
| 02:23.22 | Xenguy | thinkgeek: CUPS works for me - YMMV - good luck |
| 02:23.26 | knoppix | ha .. ha ... ha ... |
| 02:23.34 | thinkgeek | Xenguy: YMMV? |
| 02:23.35 | s003apr | I have a package and it's dependencies stored as *.deb files in my home directory, where do I put the files so that I can use apt-get to install them? |
| 02:23.41 | cafuego | !ymmv |
| 02:23.42 | dpkg | hmm... ymmv is your mileage may vary |
| 02:23.49 | debian | knoppix: that's the funniest thing I ever heard this morning. :) |
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| 02:24.01 | thinkgeek | !seen thinkgeek |
| 02:24.01 | dpkg | thinkgeek is currently on #debian (8h 9m 37s). Has said a total of 32 messages. Is idling for 0s |
| 02:24.06 | lazarus | s003apr: are you looking for /var/cache/apt/archives/ ? |
| 02:24.07 | thinkgeek | hehe |
| 02:24.30 | cafuego | s003apr: You can install them using 'dpkg -i [list of packages]' or copy them to /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 02:24.31 | s003apr | lazarus: probably, do I need to run apt-get update after putting the files there? |
| 02:24.33 | bob2 | knoppix: packages.debian.org is uneccessary for anyone running Debian. use "apt-cache" and "apt-file" instead. |
| 02:24.47 | Devsforev | bob2, according to my 2.6 kernel, it appears that NFSv4 is kinda "beta" |
| 02:24.48 | s003apr | cafuego:thanks |
| 02:24.48 | dondelelcaro | !ymmv =~ s/vary/vary. [From 200 litres per km to 200 km per litre.]/ |
| 02:24.48 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: OK |
| 02:24.50 | knoppix | loock ive been able to get in the usa with out being treated has a criminal !!! |
| 02:24.53 | s003apr | lazarus:thanks |
| 02:24.55 | lazarus | s003apr: or perhaps mkdir dummy ; mv *.deb dummy/ ; dpkg -i dummy/*.deb |
| 02:25.08 | knoppix | this server is in the usa i recon ?! |
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| 02:25.13 | bob2 | helix`: satay rice, with chili, beans, garlic and onion. optional chicken. yum! |
| 02:25.14 | debian | knoppix: shock! |
| 02:25.14 | Devsforev | bob2, and the 2.4 kernel on which my server runs does not even have NFSv4 available in it |
| 02:25.19 | lazarus | s003apr: the path is where apt "gets" them TO :) |
| 02:25.22 | s003apr | lazarus:thanks agaoin, good idea |
| 02:25.25 | cafuego | lazarus: Why not dpkg -i *.deb then |
| 02:25.25 | helix` | bob2: i want it! |
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| 02:25.27 | dondelelcaro | knoppix: probably not, actually. Not like it matters, anyway. |
| 02:25.30 | knoppix | what shock ? |
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| 02:25.46 | dondelelcaro | knoppix: do you have anything Debian related to ask about? If not, please shuffle off. |
| 02:25.57 | lazarus | cafuego: i never recommend someone do that in $HOME, he should know if he has old debs or not i think |
| 02:26.03 | knoppix | i was asking about apt-get |
| 02:26.08 | Nurbs | I think some debian tools need upgrades for NFSv4, too, hmm |
| 02:26.11 | helix` | hmm |
| 02:26.13 | helix` | good advice |
| 02:26.14 | dondelelcaro | knoppix: and we told you about apt-file. |
| 02:26.20 | cafuego | lazarus: Ah, mv *.deb dummy/ would copy old ones anyway |
| 02:26.29 | knoppix | whats is it ? |
| 02:26.31 | debian | knoppix: what's the point of asking general knowledge in debian without using it? |
| 02:26.32 | knoppix | whats pdo ? |
| 02:26.34 | lazarus | cafuego: i dind't mean it as a literal script, more a set of steps :) |
| 02:26.36 | dondelelcaro | knoppix: apt-cache show apt-file. |
| 02:26.38 | dondelelcaro | !tell knoppix about pdo |
| 02:26.42 | cafuego | !mock lazarus |
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| 02:27.00 | lazarus | cafuego: you don't think s003apr is smart enuogh to know that? |
| 02:27.14 | cafuego | lazarus: Well, now that you're asking... |
| 02:27.16 | lazarus | s003apr: are you? |
| 02:27.30 | s003apr | lazarus:thankfully |
| 02:27.36 | lazarus | s003apr: mv back any old debs :) |
| 02:27.51 | s003apr | lazarus: I am a step above linux newb. that's all |
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| 02:28.24 | bob2 | s003apr: apt-ftparchive or dpkg-scanpackages is what you want if you're just trying to create a local apt repository. |
| 02:28.32 | bob2 | or mini-dinstall if you're more hardcore. |
| 02:28.35 | bob2 | or debpool. |
| 02:28.36 | lazarus | s003apr: never dpkg -i with wildcards in any dir that has more than you can see readily ;) |
| 02:28.59 | s003apr | bob2: no, just want to install some debs that somebody else made so I can try them out |
| 02:29.03 | knoppix | why do i got lots of deb files on my drive ? |
| 02:29.14 | bob2 | knoppix: #knoppix |
| 02:29.16 | lazarus | knoppix: ask in #knoppix |
| 02:29.19 | bob2 | s003apr: ah, right. |
| 02:29.34 | knoppix | file:/var/cache/apt/archives/ |
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| 02:30.04 | lazarus | s003apr: btw, *sometimes* you'll need to rerunn the command, if it handles them in an order that it doesn't quite like, ,no biggie |
| 02:31.20 | Yodds | anyone here> |
| 02:31.24 | Yodds | ?^ |
| 02:31.30 | TML | No |
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| 02:31.36 | TML | Just 607 bots |
| 02:31.54 | bob2 | 608! |
| 02:31.58 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 02:32.03 | Yodds | lol |
| 02:32.41 | Nurbs | now /add someone |
| 02:32.58 | bob2 | wow, how did you get peer to reset that connection? |
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| 02:33.23 | dondelelcaro | bob2: I unleashed my ub3r s3kr1t network of skript kiddes upon them... |
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| 02:33.32 | Chromakode | hi |
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| 02:33.38 | ddent | sweet |
| 02:33.40 | random0ne | i'm back for more advice..... i need a recommendationf or which ftp server to use. want security....willl be under *very* light load |
| 02:33.40 | ddent | the installer froze |
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| 02:33.46 | ddent | alt-f2 to another console is fine |
| 02:33.53 | Yodds | I've only just came back and still have an un-answered question... how do I stop the bug where you have to add a / at the end of a folder name on apache |
| 02:33.53 | RetroFlash | whats the name of the boot log??? |
| 02:33.55 | sone | ftp is not secure |
| 02:34.02 | dondelelcaro | RetroFlash: dmesg. |
| 02:34.08 | Justin_ | Yodds: thats not a bug |
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| 02:34.11 | Chromakode | this is my first time on #debian |
| 02:34.15 | Justin_ | Yodds: fix your hostname |
| 02:34.17 | RetroFlash | the full boot log I mean. Sorry. ;) |
| 02:34.18 | bob2 | dondelelcaro: is bootlogd supposed to capture all output during boot? |
| 02:34.19 | shamoun | anyone here swedish? |
| 02:34.24 | dondelelcaro | bob2: dunno... |
| 02:34.31 | Justin_ | bob2: it does for me |
| 02:34.33 | bob2 | Yodds: it's not a bug. |
| 02:34.41 | bob2 | Yodds: directories have trailing /'s. |
| 02:34.47 | Yodds | how do we fix it |
| 02:34.53 | bob2 | IT'S NOT A BUG. |
| 02:34.57 | bob2 | your users are stupid. |
| 02:34.59 | bob2 | fix them. |
| 02:34.59 | random0ne | sone, i know that....but neither is the internet. looking for best case ftp server |
| 02:35.00 | Chromakode | can you hear me? |
| 02:35.04 | caphuso | Chromakode: no |
| 02:35.04 | bob2 | Chromakode: yes, stop it. |
| 02:35.13 | Chromakode | lol |
| 02:35.19 | ddent | The installer isnt responding to keyboard input. |
| 02:35.19 | mentor | !tell Chromakode about ask |
| 02:35.21 | ddent | But I can alt-tab |
| 02:35.23 | dondelelcaro | bob2: apparently, its just for messages sent to the console... I think bootmisc is what sticks the dmesg buffer to dmesg. |
| 02:35.27 | mentor | ddent: Which installer? |
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| 02:35.30 | bob2 | random0ne: sending passowrds in plain text is always insecure. I hear vsftpd is nice for anonymous ftp, ho. |
| 02:35.32 | ddent | debian installer |
| 02:35.36 | sone | random0ne, maybe this (I dunno): vsftpd - The Very Secure FTP Daemon |
| 02:35.40 | mentor | ddent: Oh really? |
| 02:35.41 | bob2 | ddent: #debian-boot |
| 02:35.50 | ddent | And I just spent 40 years wandering in a desert to get this working. |
| 02:35.50 | mentor | ~cluebat ddent |
| 02:35.54 | | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps ddent. |
| 02:35.54 | random0ne | bob2, thank you |
| 02:35.59 | random0ne | sone, thank you |
| 02:36.00 | mentor | ddent: Woody or Sarge? |
| 02:36.07 | ddent | ~fagbat mentor |
| 02:36.11 | sone | random0ne, by the way: apt-cache search sftp |
| 02:36.17 | Yodds | bob2: how do I fix the / at the end of folder names on apache then? |
| 02:36.38 | ddent | ctrl-scroll lock still spits out bs on that screen though |
| 02:36.40 | random0ne | sone, did apt-cache search ftpd...thanks for pointer |
| 02:36.46 | ddent | and of course alt-f2 to the second console works |
| 02:36.47 | caphuso | Yodds: by typing it in when you enter the URL into your browser |
| 02:36.48 | ddent | it's 3.0r1 |
| 02:36.51 | ddent | woody |
| 02:37.06 | intx | the fonts in x are huge. what font packages should I have installed, other than the basic x font packages? |
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| 02:37.07 | dondelelcaro | ddent: where did it stop at? |
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| 02:37.15 | ddent | After apt source setup |
| 02:37.15 | random0ne | sone, going to use it with friends who i don't want to teach sftp to |
| 02:37.22 | sone | intx, maybe you're running 100dpi? |
| 02:37.24 | ddent | Waiting for me to hit yes or no. |
| 02:37.27 | bob2 | ddent: WHERE'S YOUR SAVIOUR NOW? |
| 02:37.29 | caphuso | random0ne: sftp looks exactly like ftp |
| 02:37.29 | ddent | To add another apt source |
| 02:37.32 | Yodds | caphuso: but its starting to drive me insane |
| 02:37.34 | ddent | bob2: 42! |
| 02:37.37 | intx | sone: how do I check? |
| 02:37.41 | Chromakode | ok... i just installed the new kernel 2.6.0 packages and it panics. It isnt finding the modules and thus fails when mounting. I've had similar problems with 2.4.23 too... is this a common problem? :( |
| 02:37.51 | sone | intx, dunno :) |
| 02:37.54 | random0ne | caphuso, i know....but it is not supported "out of the box" by windows |
| 02:37.54 | sone | intx, do you use kdm? |
| 02:38.02 | intx | sone: icewm |
| 02:38.13 | dondelelcaro | ddent: ah, basefiles must have almost finished configuring. run ps to see exactly what is running, and possibly kill off whatever has locked up.. |
| 02:38.15 | sone | intx, do you use *dm? |
| 02:38.27 | sone | intx, IOW, how do you start X? |
| 02:38.28 | intx | hmm.. don't think so |
| 02:38.35 | ddent | bash |
| 02:38.35 | ddent | ps |
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| 02:38.40 | ddent | ... that's what's running |
| 02:38.44 | random0ne | caphuso, i just need a way to share files with gaming buddies (ex. latest teamspeak client, config files, etc) |
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| 02:38.53 | thomas_adam | ddent: ps wax | awk '/Z/ {print $11}' |
| 02:38.59 | intx | sone: startx |
| 02:39.08 | caphuso | random0ne: use a httpd instead |
| 02:39.20 | cafuego | Hmm, where does GIMP1.3 GIF support live? |
| 02:39.24 | vache | hi everyone |
| 02:39.28 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: in gimp1.3-nonfree iirc. |
| 02:39.30 | random0ne | caphuso, i am not familiar with httpd uploads....is it workable? |
| 02:39.39 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: at least, that's where it used to live... |
| 02:39.49 | intx | hm, why is the font in x-chat antialiased? |
| 02:40.12 | cafuego | ok, that would be why i can't find it then |
| 02:40.16 | grew | because you installed the gtk2 version intx |
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| 02:40.25 | vache | anybody can help me configuring network on my laptop ? I have a tap0 device and no eth0 ... I'm kinda lost without mandrake wizards ... |
| 02:40.29 | sone | intx, xdpyinfo |grep resol |
| 02:40.41 | knoppix | knoppix chanel is full of bots |
| 02:40.52 | Chromakode | could someone help me getting the 2.6.0 packages working? |
| 02:40.58 | VynoM | I suppose it's hda1 |
| 02:40.59 | knoppix | they keep talking with them selfs and dont anser |
| 02:41.01 | thomas_adam | vache: man 5 interfaces |
| 02:41.18 | intx | sone: 100dpi |
| 02:41.19 | vache | thomas_adam, thanks, i'll check that |
| 02:41.20 | sone | intx, try this: startx -- -dpi 75 |
| 02:41.53 | bob2 | knoppix: go away. |
| 02:41.59 | knoppix | why ? |
| 02:42.02 | ddent | debian owes me one keytronic lt designer to replace the one i just busted |
| 02:42.18 | ddent | i'll add that to its tab |
| 02:42.19 | newinstall | Anyone who can help with installing Debian on a large (250G) drive? The install partitioning tool sees it as 137G. |
| 02:42.26 | caphuso | random0ne: wait, you need your friends to upload stuff but you can't use sftp because it's not supported out of the box by windows? are you friends really using that CLI ftp? |
| 02:42.32 | bob2 | knoppix: do you have anything Debian-related to talk about? |
| 02:42.39 | intx | sone: alright, thanks, brb |
| 02:42.50 | bob2 | newinstall: do you need to partition the whole thing right now? |
| 02:42.52 | knoppix | yes |
| 02:42.53 | ddent | newinstall: Perhaps bios related? |
| 02:42.54 | random0ne | caphuso, unfortunately, i think most use internet explorer for ftp access |
| 02:43.13 | bob2 | knoppix: which is? |
| 02:43.20 | caphuso | random0ne: and it's incredibly convenient and easy upload interface? |
| 02:43.23 | knoppix | who do i enable the option to save destop state ? |
| 02:43.33 | ddent | 137G is a common limit. |
| 02:43.35 | newinstall | Not really. I want a 10G linux partition, 1G swap and the rest will be a large data volume |
| 02:43.40 | knoppix | theres no optin on the logout screen |
| 02:43.43 | Chromakode | so nobody can help eh :( |
| 02:43.52 | ddent | That's 128G in reality. |
| 02:43.52 | bob2 | knoppix: a) that's a stupid question, b) you're sitll not using Debian. |
| 02:43.55 | random0ne | caphuso, >shrug< you connect, drag files, and it works.....poorly, but people are trained to expect that from windows |
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| 02:44.12 | newinstall | Not a bios issue - all new parts. The bios shows 250G |
| 02:44.18 | *** mode/#debian [+q *knoppix!*@*] by LoRez |
| 02:44.21 | *** mode/#debian [-o LoRez] by LoRez |
| 02:44.22 | bob2 | Chromakode: if you can't get it working, don't use a beta kernel. |
| 02:44.24 | debian | WOW |
| 02:44.27 | sone | heh |
| 02:44.27 | Chromakode | it isnt beta |
| 02:44.31 | bob2 | Chromakode: yes it is. |
| 02:44.38 | LoRez | I guess I didn't need the * |
| 02:44.38 | Chromakode | and im having similar problems with other kernels |
| 02:44.48 | thomas_adam | bob2: tetchy today? ;) |
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| 02:44.57 | Chromakode | this seems like a pretty basic problem, not finding /lib/modules? |
| 02:44.59 | caphuso | random0ne: nobody uses IE to upload crap to an ftpd, everyone gets a real ftp client instead. so just tell your friends to get winscp |
| 02:45.03 | ddent | newinstall: Ok. Well, that's a common limit. I would never imagine any recent Linux kernel is limited to 128G drives. |
| 02:45.06 | debian | he'd come back as knoppix_ :) |
| 02:45.13 | LoRez | debian: you're next |
| 02:45.34 | random0ne | caphuso, lol ....i'll look into winscp |
| 02:45.38 | ddent | You can upload files with IE? |
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| 02:45.52 | random0ne | ddent, yeah....but expect hangs and timeouts |
| 02:46.03 | sri | okay, do people have problems with including kernel header files? I've gotten certain packages that access devices that forces me to move /usr/include/linux out of hte way and link it to /usr/src/linux/include |
| 02:46.05 | caphuso | random0ne: then you don't need to worry about people stealing your passwords, your friends will never notice that they aren't using ftp at all and i don't need to worry about your insecure box being used to DDoS my one by some script kiddie |
| 02:46.15 | sri | almost always it's because of some confusion with spinlock.h |
| 02:46.32 | caphuso | sri: those packages are broken |
| 02:46.35 | sri | it's really pissing me off, and I have upgraded to 2.6.o |
| 02:46.41 | sri | is there a fix? |
| 02:46.48 | random0ne | caphuso, >nods< thank you |
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| 02:47.00 | sri | btw my kernel packages are from source, not from deb. |
| 02:47.03 | ddent | I'm about to install slackware again. |
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| 02:47.18 | thomas_adam | ddent: #slackware |
| 02:47.27 | ddent | thomas_adam: huh? |
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| 02:47.58 | intx | hm, that worked |
| 02:48.04 | random0ne | caphuso, thanks for your time and help |
| 02:48.09 | newinstall | So, about the big drive? Hints? |
| 02:48.15 | sri | caphuso: is there a fix or do I start doing strange symlink trees in order to make some of these packages compile :D |
| 02:48.16 | random0ne | sone, thanks for your time and help |
| 02:48.21 | random0ne | bye all |
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| 02:48.53 | noseman | anyone known if intel release the modem drivers for kernel 2.6.0? |
| 02:48.55 | intx | how do I change the default font to be 75dpi always? and how do I disable antialiasing on the fontin xchat? |
| 02:48.58 | caphuso | sri: what packages are that? |
| 02:49.08 | bob2 | sri: USERSPACE PROGRAMS are using headers from /usr/src/linux/include? |
| 02:49.25 | vache | anybody knows where i can find out why i have a tap0 in ifconfig but ifdown tap0 says tap0 is not configured ? |
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| 02:49.28 | sri | caphuso: well, I'm compiling some gnome source tarballs eg gstreamer for instance |
| 02:49.30 | bob2 | intx: comment out the 100dpi line in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 02:49.37 | sri | bob2: yeah, I get that warning from list.h |
| 02:49.39 | pro | i got a program written in GTK 2.0 and i dont like the pictures on the menubar/toolbar, i looked in the source for an Icon and the guy uses GTK_STOCK_* icons, how do i change that? |
| 02:49.49 | sone | vache, did you try ifconfig tap0 down? |
| 02:50.00 | Chromakode | do failed bootlogs get recorded? I cant seem to find them |
| 02:50.11 | lazarus | vache: man 5 interfaces, this is #debian |
| 02:50.22 | vache | sone, yep, thanks ... |
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| 02:50.36 | DelEat_ | why do I keep getting this in my dmesg: 192.168.0.1 sent an invalid ICMP type 11, code 0 error to a broadcast: 130.225.237.255 on eth0 |
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| 02:50.50 | sri | bob2: the user space problems in question access videodev.h for instance for compiling ffmpeg. |
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| 02:51.23 | intx | how do I disable antialiasing fonts for certain applications? (like x-chat.. it makes it harder to read, in my opinion) |
| 02:51.25 | thomas_adam | DelEat_: bad configuration? |
| 02:51.30 | bob2 | sri: that is HORRIBLY broken |
| 02:51.31 | bob2 | sri: fiel a grave bug on it |
| 02:51.31 | bob2 | vache: in "ifconfig" or "ifconfig -a"? |
| 02:51.31 | bob2 | newinstall: use sarge to install then. or anything else with a newer kernel. |
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| 02:51.43 | DelEat_ | thomas_adam: of what? |
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| 02:51.50 | thomas_adam | DelEat_: your broadcast IP |
| 02:52.04 | DelEat | thomas_adam: it's not my IP |
| 02:52.12 | sri | bob2: alright, I'll do that. |
| 02:52.18 | DelEat | the last is my netmask |
| 02:52.19 | servnick | bob2 is dead |
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| 02:52.50 | lazarus | does anyone know of a backport of module-init-tools for woody? what else would be required btw? |
| 02:52.51 | dondelelcaro | bob2: wb! ;-) |
| 02:53.01 | thomas_adam | lazarus: apt-get.org |
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| 02:53.05 | bob2 | stupid bot |
| 02:53.07 | bob2 | or lag |
| 02:53.10 | dondelelcaro | bob2: heh. its lag... |
| 02:53.19 | bob2 | newinstall: don't /msg me |
| 02:53.23 | bob2 | newinstall: /msg dpkg d-i backup |
| 02:53.27 | lazarus | thomas_adam: are you saying one is there? or is that a blind cite? |
| 02:53.35 | bob2 | newinstall: it uses a 2.4.22 kernel which should understand stupidly big disks |
| 02:53.47 | sri | bob2: there are like one other package from gnome that does that..it accesses the floppy. |
| 02:53.48 | intx | how do I mount a drive and allow a certain user to read it? |
| 02:53.50 | thomas_adam | lazarus: do not get narky... |
| 02:53.54 | sri | I could fix it but I have no idea how to do that.. |
| 02:54.01 | DelEat | thomas_adam: is it a bad setup on my part (relatively new error), or is it another box on the network? |
| 02:54.02 | bob2 | sri: it's horribly broken. file a grave bug. |
| 02:54.06 | lazarus | thomas_adam: i have *no* clue what your term means |
| 02:54.12 | thomas_adam | intx: mount /dev/file -o user /location |
| 02:54.12 | lazarus | does anyone know of a backport of module-init-tools for woody? what else would be required btw? |
| 02:54.13 | bob2 | !+istvals uid= |
| 02:54.15 | DelEat | thomas_adam: 192.168.0.1 is not on the LAN |
| 02:54.18 | bob2 | !+listvals uid= |
| 02:54.19 | sri | bob2: okay.. |
| 02:54.20 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'uid=' by value (4 shown): vfatrw ;; mount ntfs ;; bogdan ;; (`id`). |
| 02:54.24 | bob2 | lazarus: www.apt-get.org, it's there |
| 02:54.29 | dondelelcaro | !bogdan |
| 02:54.30 | newinstall | thanks bob2 |
| 02:54.30 | dpkg | well, bogdan is ace, or called bogdan raczynski in full, or a darn good musician and lots of info about him can be found at http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=4:37:37|PM&sql=Bz3fe4j373wal |
| 02:54.30 | bob2 | !+mount ntfs |
| 02:54.30 | dpkg | mounting NTFS is `mount -t ntfs -o uid=<uid>,gid=<gid> /dev/<ntfs partition> /<mount point>' or adding '/dev/<ntfs partition> /<mount point> ntfs uid=<uid>,gid=<gid>,defaults 0 0' to your /etc/fstab |
| 02:54.33 | lazarus | bob2: okay, now what of the second part? |
| 02:54.52 | pro | neyah fuggit.... mv $USER /home/bed && sleep |
| 02:54.54 | bob2 | intx: you mean one with a crap filesystem like NTFS or vfat, right? |
| 02:54.56 | lazarus | bob2: i'm looking for a huuman tht's done it, because s/he would know of the second part |
| 02:55.00 | bob2 | lazarus: new modutils. |
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| 02:55.08 | lazarus | bob2: "new"? |
| 02:55.11 | thomas_adam | lazarus: modutils, and then prey |
| 02:55.14 | DelEat | thomas_adam: think it's smbd making the error... but could be wrong? |
| 02:55.15 | bob2 | lazarus: the dependencies work fine. and read the CHANGES file. |
| 02:55.24 | bob2 | lazarus: from the same apt source that has m-i-t |
| 02:55.31 | lazarus | bob2: okay, that's too non-specific |
| 02:55.33 | servnick | ooh, 2.6 kernel-images |
| 02:55.34 | thomas_adam | DelEat: can't tell with the lack of information you're providing. Sorry. |
| 02:55.37 | lazarus | bob2: kernel's? |
| 02:55.46 | cafuego | 71Mb of updates to download, yay |
| 02:55.51 | intx | bob2: yea, basically. |
| 02:55.55 | DelEat | thomas_adam: ok - know where I can look? |
| 02:55.56 | servnick | failed to fetch =[ |
| 02:56.00 | lazarus | bob2: what is m-i-t? |
| 02:56.07 | DelEat | thomas_adam: have tried disabling the daemon, will see if it stops |
| 02:56.09 | lazarus | bob2: , lol, nm |
| 02:56.09 | bob2 | lazarus: what are you talking about? go to www.apt-get.org and find adrian bunk's set of backports. add it to your sources.list and get m-i-t and modueilts from it. |
| 02:56.22 | bob2 | intx: scroll up then. |
| 02:56.24 | debian | cafuego: you must have been sleeping since x'mas. :) |
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| 02:56.35 | bob2 | intx: make a group called "windows" or something and add people to it. |
| 02:56.35 | cafuego | debian: Last update was the day before yesterday, yes. |
| 02:57.07 | cafuego | debian: This is mainly KDE shit |
| 02:57.24 | debian | cafuego: that too |
| 02:57.24 | bob2 | kde is installable again. |
| 02:57.28 | bob2 | w00t for kde people. |
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| 02:57.35 | debian | cafuego: from marillat.free.fr right? |
| 02:57.37 | lazarus | bob2: i know what m-i-t is now, but what else do i need besides modutils? and what versions? (i'll not be able to change sources.list on the box in question, it will all be via manual scp and dpkg -i ... and i doubt this sid box will see anything as "newer" of bunks |
| 02:57.41 | dondelelcaro | bob2: 'course, it still doesn't _do_ much... ;-) |
| 02:57.44 | cafuego | they finally got libsensors fixed? |
| 02:57.48 | cafuego | debian: No. |
| 02:58.13 | DelEat | thomas_adam: any relation to my dieing disk? |
| 02:58.15 | bob2 | cafuego: yes. |
| 02:58.16 | lazarus | bob2: where can i read what debs are needed? |
| 02:58.17 | debian | cafuego: where do you fetch them from may I ask>? |
| 02:58.19 | bob2 | debian: eh? |
| 02:58.20 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: Actually, I've been using it for a main desktop for 2 weeks now... quite enjoyable. |
| 02:58.23 | DelEat | s/die/dy/ |
| 02:58.32 | intx | alright, thanks.. brb |
| 02:58.33 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: Local debian mirror. |
| 02:58.37 | debian | bob2: kde is installable again. :) |
| 02:58.42 | cafuego | s/dondelelcaro/debian/ |
| 02:58.42 | bob2 | ah |
| 02:58.59 | bob2 | dondelelcaro: it's not about what it does, it's about how many cycles the eyecandy consumes. |
| 02:59.02 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: heh. I'm too used to terms with minimal decoration to dig kde... |
| 02:59.04 | debian | cafuego: I don't know debian mirror has installable kde now. :) |
| 02:59.12 | cafuego | DelEat: "dying" - I'm sure it's not putting dye on stuff. |
| 02:59.14 | bob2 | actually, it's my aim in life now to one day own a machine thet karamba or gdesklets can run on. |
| 02:59.26 | sri | okay, it looks like I need to get linux-kernel-headers package for my version of linux, how do I get it for 2.6.1-pre1 |
| 02:59.36 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: That's why I use the 'laptop' themse, nice & small widgets |
| 02:59.37 | bob2 | sri: stop, no you don't. |
| 02:59.40 | debian | karamba, gdesklets? |
| 02:59.45 | bob2 | sri: you neeed build-essential |
| 02:59.48 | DelEat | cafuego: no, you're right... other just looked too wrong :) |
| 03:00.05 | bob2 | debian: kde and gnome applets that run in the background and consume stupid amounts of cpu power |
| 03:00.06 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: yeah, but even with 1G of ram, I don't have enough to let the WM have any... |
| 03:00.12 | cafuego | bob2: WHat do you have now then, a P66? |
| 03:00.13 | bob2 | debian: a few gdesklets made my machine unusable. |
| 03:00.33 | bob2 | cafuego: p3-450. I had to wait five minutes to switch to a VT and start pkill'ing things once I ran a couple of them. |
| 03:01.03 | cafuego | <heh> |
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| 03:01.03 | cafuego | bob2: tssk |
| 03:01.03 | debian | bob2: are they like docapps? |
| 03:01.03 | sri | bob2: build-essential? |
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| 03:01.11 | cafuego | sri: kernel-package and build-essential |
| 03:01.14 | bob2 | sri: apt-cache show build-essential |
| 03:01.21 | bob2 | cafuego: I am but a poor uni student! |
| 03:01.27 | cafuego | bob2: So? |
| 03:01.33 | bob2 | debian: kind of, except then run on the desktop and do the fake transparency thing. |
| 03:01.38 | cafuego | bob2: Surely that means you can get discounts |
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| 03:01.50 | cafuego | bob2: And Athlons are dirt cheap these days |
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| 03:02.09 | bob2 | cafuego: I'm saving up for an ibook. |
| 03:02.18 | cafuego | bob2: neet, with discount too huh? |
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| 03:02.23 | bob2 | cafuego: a new athlon is at least $1k |
| 03:02.30 | cafuego | bob2: No it's not. |
| 03:02.31 | Juz_visiting | system hangs when shutting off with the following error -> I20 system shutdown any idea what that might be? |
| 03:02.36 | bob2 | cafuego: apple is the only company I know that discounts computer hardware to students. |
| 03:02.37 | Juz_visiting | deb woody |
| 03:02.40 | cafuego | bob2: $150 cpu, $140 mobo $150 ram |
| 03:02.45 | servnick | bob2: will you be installing debian on that? =] |
| 03:02.49 | LoRez | dondelelcaro: I do that all the time too. need more ram |
| 03:02.53 | bob2 | servnick: but of course. |
| 03:03.15 | bob2 | cafuego: + case + hard disk + cd burner |
| 03:03.28 | cafuego | bob2: bob2 wtf you need a new case for? |
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| 03:03.44 | cafuego | bob2: surely you have an old atx case you can seuse |
| 03:03.46 | sri | bob2: okay..I'm not talkign about the real kernel includes, but rather what the user space includes are. Someone said that linux-kernel-headers is what you need for user space kernel stuff |
| 03:03.48 | bob2 | cafuego: well, powersupply, this is noisy as fuck. |
| 03:03.51 | cafuego | s/seuse/reuse/ |
| 03:04.09 | bob2 | sri: yes, that's correct. install build-essential, it will pull it in. |
| 03:04.24 | sri | bob2: rock..thanks! |
| 03:04.33 | bob2 | sri: if your app needs a kernelish header that's not in there or libc6-dev, then it should include it in the source tree itself. |
| 03:06.08 | sri | yay, it works now! |
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| 03:07.55 | dbron | hi all, anyone know how to delete up to a specific character in a line in vi? For example, I would like to delete from the current cursor location to the > about 40 character away, is there a keystroke shortcut to go to that specific character? |
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| 03:08.26 | bob2 | dbron: d40l |
| 03:08.28 | bob2 | ? |
| 03:08.31 | thomas_adam | dbron: /J #vim |
| 03:08.44 | Yodds | mysql keeps saying: ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111) |
| 03:08.57 | sone | dbron, dt> |
| 03:09.03 | dondelelcaro | Yodds: your mysql server isn't running, or it doesn't have a socket on /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock |
| 03:09.06 | dbron | sone: thanks |
| 03:09.13 | dbron | sone: vi is so cool |
| 03:09.18 | sone | dbron, yes |
| 03:09.26 | Yodds | how do I get a mysqld.sock |
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| 03:09.38 | intx | hm, commenting the 100dpi lines didn't work.. |
| 03:09.47 | bob2 | intx: are you using a font server? |
| 03:09.56 | intx | msftt or something |
| 03:09.57 | cafuego | bob2: $800 without case. |
| 03:10.14 | dondelelcaro | Yodds: you run /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| 03:10.22 | bob2 | cafuego: and with a case...BOOMBOOM $1000 |
| 03:10.34 | cafuego | bob2: Old case with new $50 PSU: $850 |
| 03:10.37 | dondelelcaro | bob2: that's an expensive case... |
| 03:10.42 | bob2 | cafuego: true. |
| 03:10.44 | thinkgeek | Well, it prints pretty cool now |
| 03:10.47 | intx | bob2, i believe so |
| 03:10.55 | bob2 | intx: disable that as well. |
| 03:10.55 | polok | I bought my new case for $AU45 |
| 03:11.07 | intx | bob2: but it supplies truetype fonts? |
| 03:11.14 | bob2 | intx: are you using X4? |
| 03:11.16 | Yodds | dondelelcaro: Doesnt exist |
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| 03:11.21 | bob2 | intx: if so, a font server is unneccesary. |
| 03:11.24 | sone | bob2, can't you add startup args to ~/.xinitrc or something to force -dpi 75? |
| 03:11.25 | intx | bob2: yes.. hmm |
| 03:11.28 | cafuego | bob2: Athlon 2500, 512Mb DDR400, Gigabyte KT600 Mobo, 80Gb WD HDD, Pioneer A06 DVDR |
| 03:11.28 | bob2 | Yodds: hahaha, install mysql-server |
| 03:11.45 | Yodds | lol, that would help |
| 03:11.49 | bob2 | sone: no. |
| 03:11.53 | Yodds | doh |
| 03:12.00 | debian | bob2: athlon64, dual :) |
| 03:12.04 | thomas_adam | sone: no |
| 03:12.14 | cafuego | bob2: Bit more if you wanted an SATA hdd |
| 03:12.19 | bob2 | sone: there is a command line option tho, yeah. the problem is that he has 100dpi fonts ahead of 75dpi ones in his fontpath tho, I think. |
| 03:12.28 | bob2 | debian: send it to me or stfu ;-) |
| 03:12.57 | intx | bob2: I tried putting the 75dpi fonts first in the config. |
| 03:13.08 | debian | bob2: I can send the info to you. I'm going to assemble one |
| 03:13.11 | cafuego | bob2: Compiling a kernel in a few minutes: Priceless. |
| 03:13.19 | thomas_adam | intx: no, if you want 100dpi, then they go infront of the 75s |
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| 03:13.31 | intx | thomas_adam, I want 75dpi, not 100dpi |
| 03:13.51 | thomas_adam | intx: 75 is the default DPI |
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| 03:13.57 | sone | xdpyinfo says he's running 100dpi |
| 03:14.07 | intx | thomas_adam, yes, but for some reason.. |
| 03:14.08 | bob2 | cafuego: hah. |
| 03:14.08 | intx | exactly. |
| 03:14.18 | debian | bob2, cafuego: http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba/hotline/20030712/image/nk8d1.jpg |
| 03:14.20 | bob2 | cafuego: see, now I'm torn. I can afford an athlon or an ibook. |
| 03:14.21 | intx | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:14.26 | iBoko_sama | Hey -- I've got a fresh install of linux but I've having trouble getting debian to recognize my NIC and get on my network. If someone could help me I'd be most appreciative |
| 03:14.39 | Yodds | cafuego: what was the fix for that apache problem, please!!! |
| 03:14.43 | intx | brb, going to try disabling the microsoft font server thing. |
| 03:14.51 | sone | iBoko_sama, what have you tried so far |
| 03:14.53 | debian | bob2, cafuego: ignore previous http://forums.devhardware.com/showthread.php?threadid=7931&s=2b8263b988da1469b870a32ccc54e214 |
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| 03:14.58 | tictac | bob2: ibook :) |
| 03:15.02 | iBoko_sama | Ummm... nothing |
| 03:15.04 | thomas_adam | intx: have a look in /etc/X11/xinit/xservervc |
| 03:15.16 | iBoko_sama | I'm really a dirty newbie |
| 03:15.40 | sone | iBoko_sama, start with lspci|grep Ether |
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| 03:16.01 | iBoko_sama | Ok |
| 03:16.05 | iBoko_sama | lspci..... uhh |
| 03:16.12 | shoutt | woody sucks |
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| 03:16.34 | iBoko_sama | ok |
| 03:16.38 | Juz_visiting | system hangs when shutting off with the following error -> I20 system shutdown any idea what that might be? sys is deb woody |
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| 03:16.54 | thomas_adam | intx: have a look in /etc/X11/xinit/xservervc |
| 03:16.56 | iBoko_sama | It lists "Ethernet controller: realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) |
| 03:16.58 | intx | it's still in 100dpi. okay. |
| 03:17.09 | intx | ah. |
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| 03:17.12 | bob2 | iBoko_sama: what kernel version? |
| 03:17.15 | cafuego | debian: http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/FileList/ProductImage/photo_7vaxp_12_big.jpg |
| 03:17.15 | sone | bingo :) |
| 03:17.17 | intx | thomas_adam: thanks |
| 03:17.20 | thomas_adam | intx: yw |
| 03:17.29 | bob2 | cafuego: and with each week the ibook's get slower compared to the athlon I could buy. |
| 03:17.42 | cafuego | bob2: But they remain much cooler. |
| 03:17.47 | iBoko_sama | bob2: Hmm... not sure... whatever is the default that comes with the images from linuxiso.oerg |
| 03:17.47 | sone | iBoko_sama, (uname -r) |
| 03:18.05 | bob2 | iBoko_sama: then the module is already loaded. |
| 03:18.10 | debian | cafuego: I've some drawback on giga-byte.. |
| 03:18.26 | bob2 | cafuego: and they're a laptop. I've never had a laptop. plus, all the cool kids have ibooks. |
| 03:18.27 | iBoko_sama | 2.2.20-idepci |
| 03:18.27 | cafuego | debian: Why? |
| 03:18.32 | debian | cafuego: looks like it has sata ports |
| 03:18.44 | iBoko_sama | Ok, well, how do I config the network then? |
| 03:18.52 | iBoko_sama | I must've screwed it up on the install |
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| 03:18.53 | thomas_adam | iBoko_sama: man 5 interfaces |
| 03:18.53 | cafuego | debian: It doesn't - that might be a pic of the Ultra vertsion (which does) |
| 03:18.56 | lazarus | iBoko_sama: man 5 interfaces |
| 03:18.56 | iBoko_sama | Because DHCP wasn't working |
| 03:19.11 | bob2 | iBoko_sama: /msg dpkg man interfaces |
| 03:19.12 | cafuego | debian: Mine is that one without sata ports |
| 03:19.12 | iBoko_sama | thomas_adam: What? |
| 03:19.17 | bob2 | iBoko_sama: edit /etc/network/interfaces thusly |
| 03:19.20 | thomas_adam | iBoko_sama: man 5 interfaces |
| 03:19.22 | thomas_adam | ffs |
| 03:19.24 | lazarus | iBoko_sama: man 5 interfaces <-- type that command |
| 03:19.27 | sone | iBoko_sama, type ifconfig. Do you have an interface (eth0)? type dhclient. do you get an ip? |
| 03:19.49 | iBoko_sama | thomas: reformatting ... |
| 03:19.51 | debian | cafuego: btw, I wouldn't buy opteron yet. AMD will change its socket type the THIRD time this year |
| 03:19.53 | lazarus | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:19.55 | thomas_adam | iBoko_sama: :) |
| 03:19.59 | Yodds | how is ICS for windows done on debian (curious here) |
| 03:20.05 | iBoko_sama | sone: it says that eth0 doesn't exist... when i did "ifup eth0" |
| 03:20.07 | cafuego | debian: Which is why I got a normal Athlon |
| 03:20.11 | lazarus | Yodds: wtf are you talking about? |
| 03:20.23 | debian | cafuego: I was going to ask how's life with opteron. :) |
| 03:20.25 | cafuego | bob2: Next purchase here will be an SMP G5 box for my wife |
| 03:20.26 | thomas_adam | Yodds: use a proxy server |
| 03:20.38 | lazarus | Yodds: your question makes no sense here |
| 03:20.43 | iBoko_sama | ok... it lists a command on here "iface eth0-work inet dhcp" i'll try that |
| 03:20.57 | VynoM | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.58 | bob2 | cafuego: woah. are you guys curing cancer or producing your own animated GAMP? |
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| 03:21.10 | Yodds | Internet connection sharing, allowing a connection from eth1 through eth1 to the net |
| 03:21.14 | debian | bob2: hehe |
| 03:21.14 | ecstatix | hi |
| 03:21.19 | Yodds | etho^ |
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| 03:21.27 | lazarus | Yodds: apt-cache show ipmasq |
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| 03:21.34 | bob2 | cafuego: the User/Group settings in apache1.3 don't have any effect in VirtualHost blocks, right? |
| 03:21.36 | Yodds | ah right |
| 03:21.43 | lazarus | Yodds: if that what you're rambling about? |
| 03:21.45 | ecstatix | wow. 89.4MB of downloads for apt-get upgrade!! |
| 03:21.50 | tony | apt, 2.6? |
| 03:21.52 | | 2.6.0-test is there. Read Documentation/Changes. The announcement is at http://lkml.org/archive/2003/7/13/259/index.html. Don't whine if your system breaks. Read http://lkml.org/archive/2003/7/11/106/index.html, or and read http://www.kniggit.net/wwol26.html DON'T MAKE ME HURT YOU. a piece of M$ dogshit!, or Will be used and complained about by idiots. Unless you're a kernel developer, DON'T USE IT until 2.6.5 |
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| 03:22.02 | ddent | Ok, I have 7 debian disks... |
| 03:22.02 | lazarus | Yodds: "connection sharing"? lol |
| 03:22.06 | iBoko_sama | ok |
| 03:22.06 | ddent | I installed Debian. |
| 03:22.20 | ddent | tasksel and dselect are absolute CLUELESS about my 7 debian disks |
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| 03:22.37 | ddent | Default paths are invalid, paths I enter don't lead anywhere definitive |
| 03:22.37 | shoutt | how would i remove an application i installed with make install? |
| 03:22.38 | ecstatix | ddent: apt-setup |
| 03:22.49 | thomas_adam | ddent: apt-cdrom add |
| 03:22.49 | lazarus | shoutt: that was the first mistake |
| 03:22.53 | thomas_adam | ddent: and then run tasksel |
| 03:23.04 | lazarus | shoutt: mayvbe you can hope there is a decent make uninstall included with it |
| 03:23.10 | ddent | I did. |
| 03:23.13 | thomas_adam | ecstatix: no, he said cdrom's, hence apt-cdrom add |
| 03:23.15 | shoutt | lazarus: there isnt, fucking metacity... |
| 03:23.22 | thomas_adam | ddent: apt-get update |
| 03:23.22 | ddent | I spent a year and a half allowing the 7 disk indexes to be read,. |
| 03:23.22 | Yodds | ok, got all that out the way, now its the apache problem that needs sorting and I have pretty much all issues out the way |
| 03:23.28 | ddent | thomas_adam: I don't have network connect. |
| 03:23.34 | thomas_adam | *cough* |
| 03:23.37 | ddent | I am doing ALL this JUST to compile a kernel to get support for my NIC. |
| 03:23.39 | bob2 | shoutt: duh, don't install gnonme crap from source into /usr/ apt-cache checkinstall stow |
| 03:23.41 | lazarus | shoutt: naxt time don't subvert the package management system, apt-get install maint-guide |
| 03:23.41 | thomas_adam | *cough* |
| 03:23.43 | ddent | THEN I can do apt-get update, etc. |
| 03:23.45 | iBoko_sama | Anyone: I did dhclient and got hte following messages "eth1: Setting 100mbps full-deuplex based on auto-negotiated partnet ability 41e1." and AHHHHHHHHHHHH IT JUST RESTARTED |
| 03:23.53 | lazarus | shoutt: for now, i guess you can resinstall you box? |
| 03:23.54 | ecstatix | thomas_adam: type apt-setup and see what it tells you. you can add CDROMs |
| 03:23.57 | thomas_adam | ddent: wtf are you talking about?? |
| 03:24.15 | shoutt | bob2: hum? |
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| 03:24.18 | ecstatix | ddent: what NIC is this? |
| 03:24.20 | shoutt | lazarus: ? hahah, |
| 03:24.34 | lazarus | shoutt: you're the one who hosed your box, not us |
| 03:24.34 | servnick | well, i'm going to whine about the new kernel. the neofb frame buffer driver doesn't work =[ |
| 03:24.35 | simonrvn | iBoko_sama: that's a problem? it just went into full duplex |
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| 03:24.41 | shoutt | lazarus: and? |
| 03:24.47 | iBoko_sama | It's nto obtaining an IP from my router |
| 03:24.49 | tony | how would one about about binding multiple IP addrs to one nic? |
| 03:24.50 | ddent | ecstatix: One support in 2.4.24 and later. |
| 03:24.52 | shoutt | lazarus: i didnt hose it, i can rm the file from /usr/local and problem done |
| 03:24.53 | lazarus | shoutt: start over |
| 03:25.00 | shoutt | lazarus: are you retarded? |
| 03:25.00 | simonrvn | iBoko_sama: should it be? |
| 03:25.06 | ddent | Intel etherexpress pro 1000 mt, revision 1079 or so |
| 03:25.10 | ecstatix | ddent: ok, i get that, but what is the make of this NIC, broadcom? |
| 03:25.12 | lazarus | shoutt: would that matter? |
| 03:25.14 | shoutt | lazarus: look if im going to restart for metacity cvs, hahah |
| 03:25.17 | shoutt | lazarus: it does |
| 03:25.22 | ddent | ecstatix: Intel etherexpress pro 1000 mt, revision 1079 or so |
| 03:25.24 | iBoko_sama | sim: yes |
| 03:25.31 | ecstatix | ddent: ok |
| 03:25.32 | lazarus | shoutt: why? you have bigotry? |
| 03:25.49 | ecstatix | ddent: is'nt the eepro kernel module enough? |
| 03:26.00 | Yodds | this stupid / problem in apache!!!! |
| 03:26.06 | intx | why are all the fonts antialiased |
| 03:26.10 | Yodds | its driving me mad! |
| 03:26.12 | ecstatix | ddent: AFAIK, all eepro models are very well supported. from long back |
| 03:26.32 | lazarus | servnick: neofb? |
| 03:26.35 | simonrvn | Yodds: did you try loading mod_autoindex. it stopped doing that here once i did that |
| 03:26.38 | thomas_adam | intx: is it working now? |
| 03:26.38 | shoutt | lazarus: shut the fuck up |
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| 03:26.46 | simonrvn | shoutt: no you stfu |
| 03:26.46 | iBoko_sama | Anyone: for some reason it has a set IP adderss and stuf when I do ifconfig |
| 03:26.50 | lazarus | shoutt: pardon me? |
| 03:27.01 | Yodds | simonrvn: is that all! |
| 03:27.02 | simonrvn | shoutt: no need to get abusive |
| 03:27.03 | thomas_adam | lazarus: I think it was a subtle hint |
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| 03:27.11 | shoutt | simonrvn: dont get in this |
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| 03:27.15 | ddent | ecstatix: nope |
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| 03:27.22 | cafuego | shoutt: why not? |
| 03:27.24 | ddent | ecstatix: revisions are hardcoded in the drivers |
| 03:27.27 | ecstatix | shoutt: you are the one who is mucking around dude. why did you install from src with make install when you dont know howto remove it? there's something called make uninstall. |
| 03:27.30 | simonrvn | it's my duty here |
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| 03:27.37 | ddent | ecstatix: you can see this on the mailing lists for the e1000 driver |
| 03:27.39 | cafuego | heh |
| 03:27.39 | lazarus | simonrvn: CC [M] net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ttl.o |
| 03:27.48 | intx | thomas_adam: yeah, thanks |
| 03:27.50 | simonrvn | lazarus: still? holy fuck |
| 03:27.54 | lazarus | simonrvn: meaning i't *still* at it? :( there was a barf in the interim though |
| 03:27.55 | thomas_adam | intx: yw |
| 03:27.57 | ddent | ecstatix: of course, I use eepro MANY years ago. |
| 03:28.03 | ddent | ecstatix: this is e1000, gigabit. |
| 03:28.04 | ecstatix | ddent: ok, lemme check, i thought this card was nicely supported :) |
| 03:28.08 | ddent | ecstatix: a different driver |
| 03:28.08 | intx | thomas_adam: just trying to get this font to be easier read now. is it true I don't need a msftt font server for x4? |
| 03:28.10 | simonrvn | lazarus: oh ok. on my box it's about 3 hours |
| 03:28.10 | ecstatix | ddent: aha |
| 03:28.21 | iBoko_sama | Can anyone just tell me how to get DHCP working? |
| 03:28.21 | thomas_adam | intx: yes, it is true |
| 03:28.22 | ddent | ecstatix: support for e1000, the latest revision is in 2.4.24 |
| 03:28.23 | lazarus | simonrvn: i hate the lack of specific error msgs in this new build system |
| 03:28.29 | thomas_adam | iBoko_sama: man 5 interfaces |
| 03:28.34 | ddent | I have the latest card revision. |
| 03:28.35 | iBoko_sama | I did that already |
| 03:28.37 | thomas_adam | iBoko_sama: apt-get install dhcp-client |
| 03:28.41 | ddent | Bought last week |
| 03:28.44 | lazarus | simonrvn: yeah, this was at around 2 hours that it barfed |
| 03:28.57 | intx | how do I get xchat not to anti-alias things? |
| 03:28.58 | iBoko_sama | thomas: then how do I seti t up? |
| 03:28.59 | simonrvn | lazarus: you can enable that. the actual errors do get spit out though. warnings and such, but if you want old-style build, do a make -v |
| 03:29.18 | lazarus | simonrvn: make-kpkg defaults to this thing :/ |
| 03:29.27 | thomas_adam | intx: it is something like export XFS_ENABLE=0 |
| 03:29.32 | iBoko_sama | thomas: I already have the latest DHCP client installed |
| 03:29.34 | simonrvn | you could probably hack up the script to include the -v |
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| 03:29.46 | thomas_adam | iBoko_sama: try the manpage again |
| 03:29.47 | Yodds | simonrvm: do I add LoadModule mod_autoindex to the httpd.conf then? |
| 03:29.51 | sirReal | for some reason, imapd isn't letting me use my local login/pass to get mail. anyone know why? |
| 03:30.05 | intx | hm.. brb again |
| 03:30.05 | ecstatix | ddent: well, so type tasksel, select the C, C++ tab under development, then libncurses5-dev from the Cd, all this should be available on CD1. then download kernel src 2.4.24 and compile |
| 03:30.09 | simonrvn | Yodds: yeh, just follow the format given in the .info file for it |
| 03:30.13 | lazarus | simonrvn: LD .tmp_vmlinux1 |
| 03:30.18 | simonrvn | lazarus: woohoo |
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| 03:30.30 | lazarus | simonrvn: no, that was the line before the barf |
| 03:30.39 | iBoko_sama | thomas: All I need to know is how to release this IP that it's boung to.. I could even set a different one if need be |
| 03:30.51 | simonrvn | oh. something went wrong in the linking.. bad symbol or something |
| 03:30.52 | ddent | ecstatix: i am aware |
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| 03:31.07 | ddent | ecstatix: of course, i can't download kernel, i put it on a cd already |
| 03:31.12 | ddent | ecstatix: tasksel is jacked |
| 03:31.21 | ecstatix | ddent: jacked why? |
| 03:31.22 | ddent | ecstatix: i am now putting all 7 cd's through apt-setup for the third time. |
| 03:31.24 | lazarus | simonrvn: drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x801ea): In function `ide_hwif_setup_dma':: undefined reference to `ide_setup_dma' |
| 03:31.26 | Yodds | simonrvn: .info file for it, what does that mean? |
| 03:31.30 | ddent | well, everything goes to hell when i try to install shit |
| 03:31.34 | simonrvn | ddent: don't use tasksel unless you absolutely have to |
| 03:31.34 | ecstatix | ddent: tough luck man |
| 03:31.40 | ddent | wah wah wah, this isn't ehre, wtf is that,. wah wah wah wah wah |
| 03:31.47 | simonrvn | Yodds: /usr/lib/apache/1.3/*info |
| 03:31.48 | sone | iBoko_sama, "ifconfig eth0 down"? |
| 03:31.49 | ddent | that's what tasksel does. |
| 03:31.52 | ddent | and dselect |
| 03:31.58 | lazarus | simonrvn: i have sincec changed some menuconfig options around, and we'll see, heh |
| 03:32.03 | ddent | 3.0r1 discs |
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| 03:32.16 | novapunkx | Hey all, I can't mount a audio cd... says wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom or too many mounted file systems |
| 03:32.18 | simonrvn | lazarus: yeh good idea, cuz it doesn't take care of deps as well as 2.4 |
| 03:32.28 | cafuego | lazarus: is that on a non-i386 box? |
| 03:32.30 | iBoko_sama | sone: the only problem is that wheN I put it back up it has the set IP again |
| 03:32.35 | simonrvn | (probably cuz it isn't stable, heh) |
| 03:32.37 | ecstatix | simonrvn: what's wrong with tasksel? My NIc would'nt work too, so i did the base install, then used tasksel to install the c/c++ dev packages, and ncurses, and compiled the kernel with support |
| 03:32.44 | sone | iBoko_sama, it gets that from /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:32.45 | lazarus | simonrvn: nothing like trtial and error when it's a 3+ hour turnaround :) makes me feel like the old days, when i'd submit a huge stack of cards to the machine room, heh |
| 03:32.51 | sone | this is why people are telling you to read the manpage for it |
| 03:32.55 | simonrvn | lazarus: hehehe |
| 03:33.06 | lazarus | cafuego: no. i386 here |
| 03:33.11 | cafuego | odd |
| 03:33.12 | Yodds | simonrvm: it is already there LoadModule autoindex_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_autoindex.so |
| 03:33.20 | iBoko_sama | sone: It says that that directory doesn't exist |
| 03:33.21 | lazarus | cafuego: both compile box and target box actually |
| 03:33.41 | sone | it is a file not a directory. and it should exist. |
| 03:33.48 | iBoko_sama | Oh, it's there |
| 03:33.48 | ddent | I am having a tough time thinking of a bigger waste of time than this. |
| 03:33.49 | Stereo | hi guys, I'm having trouble on a system with exim, courier-imap and procmail. It delivers mail to one user and not to another. I suppose it's a permissions problem, is there anywhere I could read about which permissions exim needs? |
| 03:34.00 | iBoko_sama | Crap, I don't have emacs installed |
| 03:34.01 | lazarus | cafuego: well, if you can somehow change the sourcee tree to *not* do it next time, i'll be appreciative ;) |
| 03:34.08 | thomas_adam | iBoko_sama: vim |
| 03:34.21 | bob2 | Stereo: exim delivers to /var/mail/$USER by default, it has perms for that. |
| 03:34.24 | iBoko_sama | Vim is'nt ther eeither |
| 03:34.30 | sone | iBoko_sama, try vi |
| 03:34.34 | thomas_adam | iBoko_sama: 'ed' |
| 03:34.43 | Stereo | bob2: yeah, I told it to use maildir though |
| 03:34.43 | lazarus | iBoko_sama: apt-get install vim |
| 03:34.50 | simonrvn | thomas_adam: yeh scare the guy already ;P |
| 03:34.55 | thomas_adam | simonrvn: :) |
| 03:35.12 | iBoko_sama | "couldn't find package vim" |
| 03:35.14 | thomas_adam | simonrvn: you know it's a classic |
| 03:35.17 | iBoko_sama | Can I pull it off debain CD1? |
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| 03:35.22 | simonrvn | :D |
| 03:35.26 | ddent | ok, i got all 7 cd's setup through apt-setup |
| 03:35.27 | sone | iBoko_sama, yes. But just use 'vi' (not vim) |
| 03:35.29 | Stereo | with uh |
| 03:35.32 | ddent | I am not going to run apt-get update |
| 03:35.35 | ddent | then dselect |
| 03:35.36 | thomas_adam | ~find vim |
| 03:35.40 | ddent | everything will break |
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| 03:36.03 | iBoko_sama | Ok, I'm edition the interfaces config, how do I make it DHCP? |
| 03:36.07 | Stereo | directory = ${home}/Mail \n maildir_format, in local_delivery in the transports section |
| 03:36.10 | thomas_adam | ddent: as you know so much about it, why all the questions? |
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| 03:36.16 | lazarus | ddent: *never* run 'apt-get update' *always* run 'dselect update' |
| 03:36.23 | thomas_adam | lazarus: WTF |
| 03:36.26 | ddent | lazarus: weird |
| 03:36.33 | lazarus | ddent: known issue |
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| 03:36.36 | ddent | thomas_adam: WTF |
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| 03:36.42 | ddent | so... |
| 03:36.44 | sone | iBoko_sama, did you read the interfaces manpage? It's right there |
| 03:36.57 | ddent | since i ran apt-get update, i need to redo apt-setup? |
| 03:36.57 | simonrvn | no |
| 03:37.09 | lazarus | ddent: probably not, just run dselect update now |
| 03:37.11 | iBoko_sama | sone: Uhhh....... |
| 03:37.24 | simonrvn | @tell iBoko_sama about man interfaces |
| 03:37.30 | ddent | "moust: fs type not supported by kernel" |
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| 03:37.38 | thomas_adam | ~test |
| 03:37.39 | | Failed |
| 03:37.43 | Yodds | simonrvn: the thing was already there LoadModule autoindex_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_autoindex.so any other reasons why its still not working |
| 03:37.44 | simonrvn | @comfort thomas_adam |
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| 03:37.46 | lisa2 | I installed vsftpd with apt-get a long time ago, how do I check what version of it I have? |
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| 03:37.47 | ravenbird | There, there, thomas_adam. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 03:37.52 | ddent | "update available list script returned error exit status 1" |
| 03:37.55 | simonrvn | Yodds: ok |
| 03:38.07 | ddent | "Press <enter> to continue." |
| 03:38.07 | iBoko_sama | VI isn't letting me edit the config normally |
| 03:38.12 | proximacnt | lisa2: dpkg -l vsftpd |
| 03:38.14 | lazarus | ddent: 'apt-get update' breaks certain things that 'delect update' does not ... the latter will probably repair them for you (but possibly lose your "new" pacakges indicators) |
| 03:38.16 | thomas_adam | iBoko_sama: try it as root |
| 03:38.19 | simonrvn | iBoko_sama: press i, then type normally |
| 03:38.20 | Justin_ | ddent: so you have broken cds, and we care why? |
| 03:38.31 | ddent | Justin_: Why are my CD's broken? |
| 03:38.38 | lazarus | ddent: dselect, not delect, of course |
| 03:38.39 | iBoko_sama | thomas: i'm logged in as root.. like when I type it moves the text and wierd stuff |
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| 03:38.46 | ddent | lazarus: ;) |
| 03:38.53 | thomas_adam | iBoko_sama: that would vim's indent scripts |
| 03:38.57 | Justin_ | ddent: likely because you made them |
| 03:39.04 | ddent | Justin_: No, I bought them. |
| 03:39.09 | simonrvn | iBoko_sama: ok, hit esc, then u a few times until it beeps, and then hit i |
| 03:39.15 | ddent | And many others. |
| 03:39.18 | iBoko_sama | thomas: i'm trying to type "DHCP" and it keeps deleting text |
| 03:39.26 | al_ | Anyone know the best way to convert a reiserfs root partition to ext3? |
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| 03:39.28 | Justin_ | lazarus: uh, and you would have to care about the "new" package thing for that to matter |
| 03:39.28 | ddent | I do not think the CD's are "broken". |
| 03:39.28 | simonrvn | iBoko_sama: do what i just said |
| 03:39.36 | thomas_adam | iBoko_sama: see simonrvn's last quotw |
| 03:39.40 | lazarus | iBoko_sama: *read* the output of command 'man 5 interfaces' |
| 03:39.41 | thomas_adam | s/w$/e/ |
| 03:39.49 | ddent | "you're stupid, BLAH!" |
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| 03:39.52 | ddent | the linux reply |
| 03:39.54 | sone | iBoko_sama, lemme guess, you've never used vi? do you hav nano installed instead? |
| 03:40.04 | thomas_adam | or jed |
| 03:40.05 | iBoko_sama | No |
| 03:40.06 | iBoko_sama | Oh! |
| 03:40.08 | The_Vulture | ddent: bitching about it isn't going to get you anywhere |
| 03:40.09 | Justin_ | ddent: yes, you're stupid, you're point? |
| 03:40.16 | iBoko_sama | at the bottom it says "interfaces already locked, session is ready-only" anyways |
| 03:40.20 | Justin_ | grr your |
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| 03:40.25 | lazarus | iBoko_sama: "fg" |
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| 03:40.31 | Justin_ | ddent: you've been whining all day |
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| 03:40.45 | simonrvn | Justin_: nanah you're stupid for typing bad, you big ninny :) |
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| 03:41.00 | ddent | Justin_: cry |
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| 03:41.24 | Justin_ | ddent: and I would cry why? |
| 03:41.29 | lazarus | LoRez: thank you |
| 03:41.31 | lisa2 | I installed vsftpd with apt-get a long time ago, how do I check what version of it I have? |
| 03:41.33 | Justin_ | ddent: you're the one being a little baby |
| 03:41.33 | lazarus | LoRez: wait |
| 03:41.40 | lazarus | LoRez: that was in the wrong direction :( |
| 03:41.41 | simonrvn | ddent: Justin_ has a point though, bitching doesn't solve anything, though doing somethingh about it does. what version of apt do you have installed? |
| 03:41.47 | proximacnt | lisa2: As I said earlier, dpkg -l vsftpd |
| 03:41.52 | simonrvn | woops |
| 03:41.55 | lisa2 | oh sorry prox I missed that |
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| 03:41.57 | LoRez | lazarus: no. I placed it earlier. I just removed it. |
| 03:41.59 | lisa2 | thank you |
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| 03:42.03 | proximacnt | np |
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| 03:42.18 | DougTheSlug | why would $apt-cache search [whatever] give me a segfault? along with $man man -> segfault |
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| 03:42.29 | thomas_adam | DougTheSlug: corrupt libs |
| 03:42.33 | iBoko_sama | GOD THIS IS ANOYING |
| 03:42.39 | iBoko_sama | I need to type... i want emacs :( |
| 03:42.41 | thomas_adam | iBoko_sama: ANNOYING |
| 03:42.42 | DougTheSlug | how do i fix that? since apt is hosed |
| 03:42.43 | debian | yes it is |
| 03:42.47 | blueshoe | why would "sysconf( _POSIX_TIMERS ) ;" return -1 on a debian system? |
| 03:42.48 | iBoko_sama | lol |
| 03:42.52 | iBoko_sama | I'm really stupid |
| 03:42.54 | lazarus | iBoko_sama: yes ALLCAPS certainly is |
| 03:43.02 | iBoko_sama | Sorry, really frustrated |
| 03:43.05 | ecstatix | iBoko_sama: you dont know howto use any other editor except emacs? |
| 03:43.18 | iBoko_sama | Not unless someone takes me through it step by step |
| 03:43.25 | thomas_adam | iBoko_sama: apt-get install jed |
| 03:43.29 | thomas_adam | iBoko_sama: use that instead |
| 03:43.30 | ecstatix | iBoko_sama: install jed. it has emacs bindings |
| 03:43.31 | lazarus | iBoko_sama: /usr/bin/vimtutor |
| 03:43.40 | iBoko_sama | "couldn't find package jed" |
| 03:43.42 | simonrvn | ththat rhymed |
| 03:43.48 | DougTheSlug | ...ted |
| 03:43.48 | thomas_adam | iBoko_sama: apt-get install jed-common |
| 03:43.49 | Justin_ | iBoko_sama: so rather than run nano, you run vim and complain |
| 03:43.51 | thomas_adam | ~find jed |
| 03:43.52 | ecstatix | iBoko_sama: your package database sucks |
| 03:43.54 | Justin_ | wtf is wrong with people |
| 03:43.56 | somiaj_ | iBoko_sama: what about nano, its a simple editor. |
| 03:43.57 | simonrvn | thomas_adam: that rhymed |
| 03:44.05 | iBoko_sama | ecstatix: I needed a barebones install |
| 03:44.06 | lazarus | iBoko_sama: learn vim, vi* is on *every* *nix box |
| 03:44.09 | thomas_adam | simonrvn: heh |
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| 03:44.12 | simonrvn | Justin_: it's wednesday :P |
| 03:44.22 | lazarus | iBoko_sama: as you've learned, *emacs is not |
| 03:44.23 | iBoko_sama | lazarus: I really just need to get htis on my network now, so I need to edit this file |
| 03:44.34 | ddent | Justin_: wah |
| 03:44.56 | sone | iBoko_sama, you never said if you tried "nano" |
| 03:44.56 | Xenguy | iBoko_sama: start learning some basic vi - you'll thank yourself for it now and in the future :-) |
| 03:44.57 | somiaj_ | !lart vi |
| 03:45.04 | debian | lol |
| 03:45.10 | simonrvn | jed said fred, while going to bed with his sled |
| 03:45.10 | Justin_ | ddent: back to being a troll I see |
| 03:45.11 | ddent | simonrvn: Whatever comes with 3.0r1. |
| 03:45.11 | iBoko_sama | Nano is on here |
| 03:45.14 | iBoko_sama | :-P |
| 03:45.14 | ecstatix | iBoko_sama: what stops you from removing a package after editing the files? and yeah, jed is pretty small |
| 03:45.18 | simonrvn | ddent: ok |
| 03:45.18 | Justin_ | iBoko_sama: so use nano |
| 03:45.19 | sone | grr then use it |
| 03:45.31 | iBoko_sama | Sweet, this is way easier |
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| 03:45.42 | sone | so is notepad.exe |
| 03:45.45 | lazarus | ecstatix: he has not network yet |
| 03:45.48 | sone | hmm |
| 03:45.54 | lazarus | sone: wtf are you talking about? |
| 03:45.54 | sone | I should file a bugreport. notepad.exe missing |
| 03:45.55 | iBoko_sama | So is CTRL+O (Writeout) to save? |
| 03:45.56 | ecstatix | lazarus: no CDs as well? |
| 03:45.57 | thomas_adam | @comfort simonrvn |
| 03:45.58 | ravenbird | There, there, simonrvn. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 03:46.03 | Justin_ | great, now ddent is messaging me |
| 03:46.12 | somiaj_ | simonrvn: watch it, your leaving a dent...(: |
| 03:46.12 | lazarus | ecstatix: apparently he's attempting to edit interfaces |
| 03:46.14 | simonrvn | @tell ddent about ask |
| 03:46.20 | simonrvn | somiaj_: hehe |
| 03:46.24 | ecstatix | lazarus: ah. ok. |
| 03:46.32 | DougTheSlug | if my libs are hosed - how do i fix them? (with minimal service interruptions, this is a router for a network with a couple dozen clients) |
| 03:46.33 | tony | how does one add a user so that the user is prompted for a password on first login |
| 03:46.35 | VynoM | Ok, cd-rw is seen, but not scsi emulation. There any other way to burn cd? |
| 03:46.37 | simonrvn | sone: teehee |
| 03:46.45 | Justin_ | simonrvn: I doubt he wants help |
| 03:46.46 | thomas_adam | tony: adduser <name> |
| 03:46.47 | ddent | Sorry, I won't talk to Justin_ about his personal attacks on the channel. |
| 03:46.49 | lazarus | Justin_: he msg'd me repeatedly earlier, even though told repeatedly not to. no op would deal with it though |
| 03:46.57 | ddent | I have ignored him, for the second time. |
| 03:47.03 | nvs | tony: passwd ? |
| 03:47.04 | ecstatix | VynoM: as in? are you passing hdX=ide-scsi in your bootloader config to your kernel |
| 03:47.13 | simonrvn | Justin_: it also outlines guidelines on /msging people ;) |
| 03:47.13 | thomas_adam | now now, toys in prams please |
| 03:47.17 | tony | thomas_adam , that forces me to give a password immidiatly, which i'd rather not do |
| 03:47.25 | ddent | lazarus: I message you two things, and you made a huge scene. You were doing that for a very obvious reason. |
| 03:47.29 | VynoM | ecstatix I'll try that now |
| 03:47.39 | tony | nvs, ? |
| 03:47.43 | blueshoe | why would "sysconf( _POSIX_TIMERS );" return -1 on a debian system? |
| 03:47.43 | blueshoe | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.43 | blueshoe | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.43 | blueshoe | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:47.52 | simonrvn | ddent: cool it, or be removed. simple |
| 03:47.56 | ddent | simonrvn: Cool what? |
| 03:47.58 | blueshoe | oops |
| 03:47.59 | nvs | tony: Does the user exist and does not have a password? |
| 03:48.02 | lazarus | ddent: i count 6 in one screenful here |
| 03:48.06 | simonrvn | ddent: you heard me |
| 03:48.06 | somiaj_ | tony: maybe man passwd, and set the passwd as '' and make it expired. |
| 03:48.10 | iBoko_sama | YES |
| 03:48.13 | ddent | simonrvn: Messaging Justin my reason for ignoring him, his personal attacks? |
| 03:48.18 | tony | nvs, no, I want to create a user, but not set the passwd until 1st login |
| 03:48.19 | ddent | I don't believe that belongs on the channel. |
| 03:48.24 | ecstatix | VynoM: pass that in the "append" section of the lilo.conf, rerun lilo, then reboot. your cd-rw should work fine |
| 03:48.31 | lazarus | and unnfortunately, +e doesn't prevent /notice :( |
| 03:48.33 | blueshoe | lets try that again... why would "sysconf( _POSIX_TIMERS );" return -1 on a debian system? is this a library issue or a kernel issue or what? i am trying to use clock_gettime with CLOCK_PROCESS_CPUTIME_ID, and that's failing, and i think the _POSIX_TIMERS is at the root of it |
| 03:48.33 | thomas_adam | ffs, grow up |
| 03:48.37 | tony | somiaj , neat idea |
| 03:48.39 | lazarus | 01:59 -ddent(user@c-66-41-170-154.mn.client2.attbi.com)- Ok, I guess that means you're 12. |
| 03:48.41 | VynoM | ecstatix ok. Thanks |
| 03:48.42 | ddent | My messages to him were not maliscious. |
| 03:48.44 | tony | I'll look at that |
| 03:48.47 | thomas_adam | @tell blueshoe about repeat |
| 03:48.50 | ecstatix | thomas_adam: what is a ffs? |
| 03:48.54 | thomas_adam | ~ffs |
| 03:48.56 | | ffs is probably for fuck's sake, or for fine's sake. UCB's Fast File System |
| 03:48.56 | nvs | tony: I see. I don't know how to do that. adduser will add a user but I don't think it will prompt the user to change the password. |
| 03:48.58 | simonrvn | ddent: wasn'r right for him to do that, nor is it right to continue acting like an ass, and ignoring requests from people for you to stop /msging them |
| 03:49.01 | lazarus | ddent: those to me were, i'll attest to that if needed in court |
| 03:49.03 | ecstatix | thomas_adam: heh |
| 03:49.05 | Justin_ | 22:33 < ddent> I am having a tough time thinking of a bigger waste of time than this. |
| 03:49.16 | Justin_ | nope, ddent isn't a jerk..not at all |
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| 03:49.24 | ddent | lazarus: Yes, I messaged you that after your big scenes. It was warranted. |
| 03:49.25 | tony | I like the idea of a random password set to expired |
| 03:49.26 | lazarus | Justin_: 01:59 -ddent(user@c-66-41-170-154.mn.client2.attbi.com)- Ok, I guess that means you're 12. |
| 03:49.28 | Yodds | how do we start swat? |
| 03:49.30 | tony | ok, thanks guys |
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| 03:49.53 | thomas_adam | tony: man chage |
| 03:49.56 | simonrvn | no need for useless pointless traffic about it |
| 03:50.03 | lazarus | simonrvn: thanks |
| 03:50.10 | simonrvn | yw |
| 03:50.11 | lisa2 | sorry for the silly question, but when you remove a package is there a way to get it to remove the config files with it? |
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| 03:50.14 | iBoko_sama | How can I test to make sure my network is working properly? |
| 03:50.19 | nvs | lisa2: dpkg -P |
| 03:50.20 | lazarus | simonrvn: i only wish you were awake hours ago when he started |
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| 03:50.24 | thomas_adam | lisa2: --purge |
| 03:50.31 | lazarus | iBoko_sama: ping |
| 03:50.35 | iBoko_sama | good idea! |
| 03:50.36 | iBoko_sama | lol |
| 03:50.37 | Xenguy | lisa2: apt-get --purge remove |
| 03:50.38 | thomas_adam | lisa2: apt-get remove --purge <name> |
| 03:50.50 | lisa2 | oh okay thanks |
| 03:50.52 | lazarus | lisa2: dpkg --purge foo |
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| 03:51.13 | Yodds | how do I start the swat service??? |
| 03:51.23 | nvs | Yodds: 911? ;-) |
| 03:51.28 | Justin_ | Yodds: why are you wanting to use swat exactly? |
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| 03:51.48 | somiaj | Yodds: use the init script in /etc/init.d to start/stop/restar daemons. |
| 03:51.48 | lisa2 | lol :) |
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| 03:51.50 | debian | nvs: hehe |
| 03:51.52 | Justin_ | all I've ever seen swat do is make things more complicated then they need to be |
| 03:52.04 | Yodds | well it used to be on webmin, seems that the lastest version is removed, plus I'd rather use swat |
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| 03:52.16 | iBoko_sama | Uh oh, debian is pondering. |
| 03:52.34 | Yodds | it sez its not in init.d |
| 03:52.39 | simonrvn | i can only think of one thing when i see 'swat': "swat that freaking fly!" |
| 03:52.40 | lazarus | ugh, it's related to webmin? :( |
| 03:52.56 | debian | Justin_: not really. User creation, for one, is made easy. :) |
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| 03:53.02 | iBoko_sama | Yay! Now I just have to set up my cstrike server :-P |
| 03:53.03 | somiaj | lazarus: http configurer for samba (if I rember correctly) |
| 03:53.04 | ddg | hello |
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| 03:53.17 | ddg | just installed debian on a centrino laptop |
| 03:53.26 | ddg | (knoppix works etc) |
| 03:53.28 | ddg | i boot up |
| 03:53.39 | ddg | Uncompressing Linux... |
| 03:53.43 | Yodds | somiaj: thats correct, I just cant get it loaded |
| 03:53.45 | ddg | crc error |
| 03:53.46 | lazarus | somiaj: okay, samba is some ms thing i guess, but what is the http part? some sort of apache httpd.conf editor? |
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| 03:53.55 | ddg | ---system halted |
| 03:53.57 | ddg | ??? |
| 03:54.00 | ddg | ?? |
| 03:54.01 | ddg | ?/ |
| 03:54.02 | ddg | ? |
| 03:54.10 | simonrvn | ddg: cool it with the ? |
| 03:54.13 | somiaj | lazarus: no you can configure samba over a web browser if you don't want to mess with the config files directly. |
| 03:54.23 | somiaj | !tell ddg about enter |
| 03:54.30 | Yodds | port 901 |
| 03:54.30 | ddg | anyone have help |
| 03:54.31 | lazarus | somiaj: ah. gross. sounds as bad as webmin then |
| 03:54.39 | Yodds | but I cant get my started |
| 03:55.16 | simonrvn | ddg: can you get to the system logs, and see what's going on there, or is syslog not starting at all? |
| 03:55.31 | somiaj | ddg: on possibilite is you are booting off of the wrong kernel for your processor. |
| 03:55.31 | Yodds | cant use ssh or anything like that in college cos of the firewall etc.. but http like webmin is the best way to do it |
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| 03:55.44 | simonrvn | ddg: listen to somiaj |
| 03:55.46 | somiaj | lazarus: na its about 20 steps better than webmin, at least it only hozes samba...(: |
| 03:55.53 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 03:55.59 | zi0n- | helow |
| 03:55.59 | lazarus | somiaj: lol |
| 03:56.02 | debian | Yodds: tunnel thru the firewall |
| 03:56.06 | ddg | somiaj: i386 |
| 03:56.21 | ddg | on a centrino laptop |
| 03:56.33 | lazarus | debian: you'll probably have to explain how to him |
| 03:56.43 | Yodds | lol, I need to stay in college for a few more years now, cant get kicked from college yet |
| 03:56.46 | somiaj | ddg: using lilo? what kernel are you trying to boot off of? |
| 03:56.56 | lazarus | debian: he sounds like the type, if he wants webminish things :) |
| 03:57.04 | ddg | 2.4.... |
| 03:57.08 | ddg | i guess 18 |
| 03:57.17 | somiaj | ddg: or are you just trying to install debian? (more info is probably needed to figure out really what's going on) |
| 03:57.33 | ddg | installing debian |
| 03:57.40 | iBoko_sama | For some reason "Device Name" is listed as Host1 by my router, how can I change my boxs network name? |
| 03:57.41 | ddg | im at the part wher (in net install) |
| 03:57.45 | ddg | you reeboot |
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| 03:58.19 | ddg | what?? |
| 03:58.22 | ddg | worked this time |
| 03:58.25 | ddg | weeeird |
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| 03:58.36 | Yodds | my college uses novell netware stuff, how can we tunnel through that!! |
| 03:58.40 | harshy | dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `Debian-exim' in statusoverride file |
| 03:58.42 | dpkg | no idea, harshy |
| 03:58.51 | lazarus | ddg: shhh, don't tempt the gawds of Whimsey ;) |
| 03:58.52 | somiaj | iBoko_sama: well /etc/hostname or /etc/hosts will affect what that computer calls it. |
| 03:58.54 | harshy | anyone know what the hell that means |
| 03:59.18 | somiaj | ddg: did you read what dpkg told you about enter, its just polite to use one line to talk. |
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| 03:59.47 | ddg | sorry |
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| 04:01.29 | Drizzt321 | I'm having a problem after mounting root via nfs, I get "Warning: unable to open an initial console." anyone have any idea what exactly thats talking about? |
| 04:01.42 | VynoM | Eh? ext3 I think |
| 04:01.59 | VynoM | whoops... sorry |
| 04:02.11 | VynoM | I'm just thinking and typing and not watching my window |
| 04:02.20 | Drizzt321 | ah...ok |
| 04:03.08 | Yodds | final question before I leave, does IPMASQ do what ICS does for windows without me having to stress through config files? |
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| 04:03.25 | Drizzt321 | ah... |
| 04:03.30 | smj | Greetings fellow Debianites.. |
| 04:03.32 | Drizzt321 | its not really config files, more like commands |
| 04:03.43 | Drizzt321 | though you can(and usually do) put it in a script for startup |
| 04:03.46 | Yodds | such as |
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| 04:04.25 | servnick | why do i spend so much time talking to dpkg? |
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| 04:04.41 | Drizzt321 | Yodds: want me to share my startup script with you? |
| 04:05.00 | Yodds | ok, I'll look into all this later, nite from England, its 04:04GMT here |
| 04:05.04 | Drizzt321 | Yodds: for the sharing that is, should give you a very good base to build your custom script on without much trouble |
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| 04:05.12 | Yodds | ok drizzt321 |
| 04:05.23 | mcc | Hi.. quick question.. is there any way for a non-debian user to get hold of the source code to a debian utiliy? |
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| 04:05.31 | Drizzt321 | Yodds: one sec, let me scp it from my gateway to my webserver |
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| 04:05.43 | mcc | i would like to try to install the debian "an" program on my slackware box but packages.debian.org appears to have been down since november. |
| 04:05.50 | Yodds | Drizzt321: Cheers Bloke |
| 04:05.54 | mcc | the program does not seem to be on freshmeat. |
| 04:05.54 | dondelelcaro | mcc: so get it from a pool. |
| 04:05.57 | servnick | i guess he's more informative and entertaining than you people in here.. |
| 04:06.24 | dondelelcaro | mcc: eg, http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/mail/a/an/ |
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| 04:06.43 | dondelelcaro | s/mail/main/ |
| 04:07.12 | smj | Greetings all... I'm compiling a kernel specifically for a host. This kernel will not be compiled with module support. The host has one 3C905 and one IntelEtherPro100. Whenever I boot the kernel, I have no networking support. Any suggestions? I'm not activating modules to avoid the possibility of rootkits that make use of that mechanism. |
| 04:07.16 | Drizzt321 | Yodds: try http://www.darkobjects.net/iptables.script |
| 04:07.39 | Xenguy | smj: keep a copy of chkrootkit around anyway ;-) |
| 04:08.16 | mcc | dondel, thank you. |
| 04:08.18 | smj | Xenguy: Oh, don't worry, I know there are plenty of rootkits that don't use kernel module, but I'm trying to limit the attacker's chances. :-) |
| 04:08.40 | Xenguy | smj: eternal vigilance and all that :-) |
| 04:08.49 | smj | Xenguy: s/module/modules |
| 04:08.55 | De_Mon | got a lil DNS question for you, I've got a zone setup so that 'host ct3' returns an address. but when i 'ping ct3' it says "unknown host ct3" |
| 04:08.57 | Drizzt321 | Yodds: you get it? |
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| 04:09.09 | Yodds | Drizzt321 |
| 04:09.11 | Yodds | nope |
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| 04:09.22 | De_Mon | ive added the correct search path in /etc/resolv.conf im not quite sure what might be causing this |
| 04:09.50 | Drizzt321 | Yodds: oh, try http://www.darkobjects.net:8080/iptables.script |
| 04:10.00 | Drizzt321 | Yodds: sorry, forgot I set it to port 8080 externally |
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| 04:10.30 | smj | Welp, catch y'all later. |
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| 04:10.59 | Yodds | Drizzt321, got it...good old wget! |
| 04:11.04 | blueshoe | why would "sysconf( _POSIX_TIMERS );" return -1 on a debian system? is this a library issue or a kernel issue or what? i am trying to use clock_gettime with CLOCK_PROCESS_CPUTIME_ID, and that's failing, and i think the _POSIX_TIMERS is at the root of it |
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| 04:12.52 | Drizzt321 | Yodds: good, enjoy! |
| 04:12.54 | kjk137 | I am planning on using grub boot loader, do I understand correctly that I can pass idebus0=66 via menu.lst to set the ide bus speed to 66 instead of the default 33? |
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| 04:13.07 | Drizzt321 | Yodds: you'll see in there how I use the port forwarding for various services |
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| 04:13.35 | iBoko_sama | For some reason "UNKNOWN NAME" is listed as Host1 by my router, how can I change my boxs network name? I edited the /etc/hosts files so that the new IP has the name but it didn't work |
| 04:13.37 | Yodds | Drizzt321: Where would I put this after editing etc... |
| 04:13.45 | smj | Welp, the RH folks weren't any more help. |
| 04:14.06 | Drizzt321 | Yodds: really anywheres, but at least you need to have it run on startup(if you want the NAT enabled upon boot by the gateway) |
| 04:14.27 | Drizzt321 | Yodds: would would probably be in whichever /etc/rcX.d for the runlevel you use |
| 04:14.45 | Yodds | Drizzt321: ok, cheers....btw...do you think you can help with this apache problem |
| 04:15.04 | Drizzt321 | Yodds: what would that be? |
| 04:15.43 | Yodds | it kinda needs a / at the end of foleer names.... http://somedomain.tld/somerandomfoler/ it needs the / at the end otherwise it dont load and just hangs |
| 04:15.49 | Yodds | folders^ |
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| 04:16.12 | Yodds | I swear its a bug! |
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| 04:16.26 | Drizzt321 | Yodds: one sec, let me look in my config file, I might have an idea |
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| 04:16.58 | iBoko_sama | Can someone help me set up a counterstrike server? |
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| 04:17.35 | SexyKen | Hey guys, I just got a printer. HP Photosmart 7660 and I want to set it up on my linux server (for network printing)...is this possible? |
| 04:17.36 | xpato | any one using centrino? |
| 04:17.37 | Yodds | my brother keeps telling me about this steam program, look into that for counterstrike |
| 04:17.39 | deadcat | iBoko_sama: download source. untar, run the startup script with some options and done |
| 04:17.51 | gravity | SexyKen: Yes |
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| 04:18.00 | iBoko_sama | deadcat: how do I do taht? |
| 04:18.03 | Drizzt321 | Yodds: hrm...no, I'm not sure |
| 04:18.05 | SexyKen | gravity: Any chance you can give me a hand? |
| 04:18.07 | Drizzt321 | Yodds: try #apache |
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| 04:18.13 | deadcat | iBoko_sama: which step? |
| 04:18.15 | Yodds | ok cheers |
| 04:18.20 | gravity | SexyKen: I've never set it up myself, sorry. cups is your friend. |
| 04:18.27 | gravity | SexyKen: It shouldn't be too hard |
| 04:18.31 | iBoko_sama | deadcat: the downloading the sources, untarring |
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| 04:18.55 | SexyKen | Cups? LoL |
| 04:18.56 | deadcat | iBoko_sama: those are basic commands... you should know this |
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| 04:19.13 | iBoko_sama | deadcat: I'm a dirty dirty newb, can you just help me out |
| 04:19.30 | iBoko_sama | deadcat: I mean, can I download the server in a package? What's the package name? |
| 04:19.36 | deadcat | iBoko_sama: dirty dirty newb shouldnt fuck with a CS server then. (= |
| 04:19.48 | iBoko_sama | blkajldfkj |
| 04:19.55 | deadcat | iBoko_sama: learn some basic *nix command first. |
| 04:20.01 | gravity | Unless you want your shit hacked, at the very least |
| 04:20.04 | iBoko_sama | I've run 10's of HL servers on my windows machine |
| 04:20.10 | iBoko_sama | I'm running it on a closed network |
| 04:20.24 | gravity | Why not set up a win box for it then? |
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| 04:20.32 | deadcat | gravity: heheh |
| 04:20.47 | iBoko_sama | linux = faster and... windows won't run on old compy :-P |
| 04:21.13 | gravity | iBoko_sama: Well, you'll have the pay the price like you did for windows and actually learn the system. I don't think it'll take much. |
| 04:21.21 | iBoko_sama | :( |
| 04:21.32 | gravity | iBoko_sama: We could theoretically talk you through part of it, but it's a pain for us, and it shouldn't be too hard to do really |
| 04:21.33 | iBoko_sama | I tried reading the books, I just want to get this up and running for now :-/ |
| 04:21.56 | iBoko_sama | I guess I'll just have a friend do it for me in a few days |
| 04:22.00 | deadcat | iBoko_sama: theres no howto online? heres some steps. wget http:/somewhere.com/csserver-blah.tar.gz; tar -zxf csserver-blah.tar.gz; cd csserver-blah ./csserver-script <options> |
| 04:22.09 | bob2 | apt, bugs is also PS: I'll pay you to come to my talk and clap randomly |
| 04:22.23 | gravity | !bugs |
| 04:22.34 | bob2 | bah |
| 04:22.42 | bob2 | fucking firebird and the fucking pastebug fuckfuck |
| 04:22.53 | bob2 | apt, bugs is also http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html |
| 04:23.13 | bob2 | blah |
| 04:23.47 | SexyKen | What is the first step to installing 'cups'? |
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| 04:23.55 | gravity | SexyKen: Install cupsys |
| 04:23.58 | filp | SexyKen: getting cups |
| 04:24.00 | SexyKen | Gracias. |
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| 04:24.36 | gravity | I always wondered about that. Why there's no cups metapackage. |
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| 04:25.34 | RetroFlash | Help: I have 2 ide cdroms that list in dmesg, get id'ed np with hwsetup, yet will not mount (invalid block device). iso9660 is loaded...any ideas? |
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| 04:25.35 | bob2 | because everything aside from cupsys is optional |
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| 04:26.21 | filp | RetroFlash: can you cat the device? |
| 04:26.39 | gravity | bob2: True, but it would probably make life easier on people. I know I was confused by it at first |
| 04:26.42 | RetroFlash | dunno how. I am realatively new to linux. |
| 04:26.43 | SexyKen | What the hell is cupsys anyway lol |
| 04:27.01 | gravity | SexyKen: www.cups.org |
| 04:27.11 | RetroFlash | filp: Whats the command? |
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| 04:27.22 | filp | RetroFlash: cat <device> |
| 04:27.33 | bob2 | RetroFlash: how are you trying to mount it? |
| 04:27.52 | filp | RetroFlash: hit ctrl-C after you see stuff spewing on you screen |
| 04:28.01 | RetroFlash | filp: nope... |
| 04:28.09 | filp | RetroFlash: what's it say? |
| 04:28.17 | filp | RetroFlash: what command did you type in? |
| 04:28.27 | RetroFlash | No such device. |
| 04:28.45 | bob2 | RetroFlash: stop it. what EXACT command are you trying to use? |
| 04:28.52 | RetroFlash | filp: Does not make any sense. They show up in dmesg |
| 04:28.55 | SYNeR- | hi all, I've just installed Alsa-1.0.0rc2, although when I try play something in XMMS (ALSA output plugin), I get no sound.. And I'm pretty sure I've unmuted stuff correctly in alsamixer.. any ideas? |
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| 04:28.59 | filp | RetroFlash: command ? |
| 04:29.00 | bob2 | RetroFlash: stop it. what EXACT command are you trying to use? |
| 04:29.15 | RetroFlash | filp: cat /dev/hdc and /dev/cdrom |
| 04:29.39 | filp | RetroFlash: that's what you typed in on the line? |
| 04:29.52 | filp | RetroFlash: be exact |
| 04:29.57 | RetroFlash | filp: as 2 seperate commands |
| 04:30.06 | filp | RetroFlash: be exact |
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| 04:30.11 | RetroFlash | filp: cd /dev/hdc |
| 04:30.19 | filp | RetroFlash ? |
| 04:30.20 | RetroFlash | filp: cat /dev/hdc |
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| 04:30.57 | shua_ | ola all |
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| 04:31.07 | RetroFlash | filp: that is what I typed. hwsetup shows them as hdc and hdd |
| 04:31.16 | yaiLLf8d | anyone want an orielly ldap ebook I need a guinea pig to test my outgoing dcc so if anyones game? |
| 04:31.28 | filp | RetroFlash: tried a couple different disks? |
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| 04:31.56 | RetroFlash | filp: yes...dvds, cdrs and originals... |
| 04:32.14 | hanasaki | what do i need to run/load ot montor the cpu fan speed and the cpu temp? |
| 04:32.41 | gravity | hanasaki: Have a look at the lmsensors package. The docs should tell you everything you need to know |
| 04:32.47 | RetroFlash | filp: dmesg ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA |
| 04:32.54 | gravity | hanasaki: Sorry, that's lm-sensors |
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| 04:33.20 | hanasaki | thanks! hey what is a reasonable max temp for the cpu and inside the case>? its a barton 3000 amd |
| 04:33.23 | RetroFlash | filp: hwsetup lass: CDROM |
| 04:33.24 | RetroFlash | bus: IDE |
| 04:33.24 | RetroFlash | device: hdd |
| 04:33.24 | RetroFlash | DRiVeR__: ignore |
| 04:33.24 | RetroFlash | desc: LITE-ON LTR-48125W |
| 04:33.24 | RetroFlash | symlink(/dev/hdd,/dev/cdrom1) |
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| 04:33.24 | filp | T_VoiD: what sort of kernel are you using? Have you been compiling you're own? |
| 04:33.42 | T_VoiD | filp: oh yea put modules in non needed places hehe |
| 04:33.47 | filp | RetroFlash: have you setup up ide-scsi ? |
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| 04:34.03 | RetroFlash | oops |
| 04:34.04 | filp | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:34.19 | shua_ | howdy again |
| 04:34.24 | Drizzt321 | I'm doing an nfs root and the root is based off a debian install. unfortunately, it tries to fsck / every time it loads, and drops to rcS mode because / is not ext2/3 so it cannot check them, what exactly do I have to modify to stop this from happening? |
| 04:34.29 | RetroFlash | filp: it was, but I took it off. Its 2.6.0 kernel. I didnt work with or without. |
| 04:34.34 | filp | RetroFlash: something line hdc=ide-scsi on the boot |
| 04:34.35 | maxb | hanasaki - i have a barton 2500, temp idle is 45 centigrade, i think |
| 04:34.36 | De_Mon | nevermind fixed the problem, two 'search' lines |
| 04:34.50 | filp | RetroFlash: did you compile IDE CDROM support? |
| 04:35.00 | hanasaki | maxb: thanks.. hmm dam. forgot how to convert that to F |
| 04:35.19 | hanasaki | maxb: what package/software displays that stuff in X? |
| 04:35.19 | RetroFlash | filp: yes and at that point they listed as sda...said ide turned control over to scsi modulke...something near that anyway. |
| 04:35.48 | filp | RetroFlash: ? |
| 04:35.52 | RetroFlash | filp: Yes, and recheck...unless it depends on something else. |
| 04:35.53 | shua_ | hrrrmm |
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| 04:36.11 | maxb | hanasaki - thats from windows, if you are using a 2.4 kernel you can use lmsensors, but i use 2.6 and its not implemented for that kernel yet :( |
| 04:36.18 | gravity | hanasaki: Install "units" to convert the temps (and just about anything else) |
| 04:36.47 | hanasaki | gravity: ! |
| 04:36.48 | hanasaki | thanks |
| 04:36.56 | RetroFlash | filp: I am going to quickly check the kernel config. Any ideas what to look for? |
| 04:36.57 | gravity | np |
| 04:37.16 | RetroFlash | filp: should I re-enable the scsi support??? |
| 04:37.16 | T_VoiD | oh there's a 2.6.1 ? maybe i'll try that |
| 04:37.18 | maxb | hanasaki - im using 2.6.1-rc2 seems good |
| 04:38.00 | filp | RetroFlash: sorry, got to work on something else, sounds like something you've messed up in the kernel compile, maybe filesystem support like joliet |
| 04:38.20 | RetroFlash | k. thx |
| 04:38.34 | hanasaki | hmm maxb i have only one issue w/ 2.6 the nfs server on 2.6 is messed up w/ clients from 2.4 |
| 04:38.47 | bob2 | lack of Joliet means you don't get long filenames. |
| 04:38.57 | bob2 | it's nto going to give you "invalid block device" errors. |
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| 04:39.01 | maxb | hanasaki - kernel or userspace server? |
| 04:39.12 | T_VoiD | if cat won't work that's not filesystem, something in the ide/scsi support |
| 04:39.16 | hanasaki | kernel |
| 04:39.22 | hanasaki | userspace was odd IMO |
| 04:39.38 | lisa2 | arg! when are they going to get the lists of packages back up on the debian website |
| 04:39.40 | hanasaki | i wold prefer to lean AFS but no kernel 2.6 support and i dont know kerberos yet |
| 04:39.47 | maxb | oh, im no nfs expert but is there not options for backwards compatiblity? |
| 04:39.49 | elkrammer | how can i reinstall lilo? I booted from knoppix, mounted my partition and run lilo again but I get /dev/hda permission denied |
| 04:39.53 | RetroFlash | So any ideas? I have the menuconfig up right now... |
| 04:39.56 | elkrammer | is there any other way |
| 04:39.56 | hanasaki | dam! i got the volcano 12 for the barton.. tis LOUD |
| 04:40.04 | maxb | or do they not work that well |
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| 04:40.12 | bob2 | lisa2: /topic |
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| 04:40.13 | SYNeR- | hi all, I've just installed Alsa-1.0.0rc2, although when I try play something in XMMS (ALSA output plugin), I get no sound.. And I'm pretty sure I've unmuted stuff correctly in alsamixer.. I've run ./snddevices, added my account to audio group..any ideas? |
| 04:40.20 | bob2 | lisa2: but it's really no big loss to anyone. |
| 04:40.37 | bob2 | elkrammer: as root? did you chroot into your Debian system? |
| 04:40.42 | bancus | Have you logged out and back in since adding yourself? |
| 04:40.49 | bob2 | RetroFlash: just use a Debian kernel. |
| 04:40.53 | elkrammer | bob2: yeah |
| 04:41.12 | hanasaki | maxb: ? |
| 04:41.25 | tony_wt | Is there an option in the new installer to install the base system from a existing partition? I couldn't seem to find a base-debs tgz file for testing. |
| 04:41.29 | maxb | SYNer -- you still have to choose oss, well i do anyway, im using alsa though, i think it uses oss emulation |
| 04:41.29 | elkrammer | bash-2.05b# lilo |
| 04:41.29 | elkrammer | fatal__: open /dev/hda: Permission denied |
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| 04:41.32 | RetroFlash | bob2 it is 2.6.0 kernel. I got it to try to resolve a problem with my ati radeon card...which it seems to have done. |
| 04:41.46 | hanasaki | tony you mean from sarge or sid? |
| 04:42.20 | tony_wt | hanasaki: sarge |
| 04:42.21 | lisa2 | bob2- yeah thats true, I'm just trying to install the newest version of vsftpd and I well when I do an apt-cache searche I get one up but it doesn't say the version and I dont think its the new one. I wanna see if its in the unstable |
| 04:42.27 | lisa2 | I'm new to linux if you can't tell |
| 04:42.28 | maxb | hanasaki -- ?, whats that for? |
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| 04:43.04 | hanasaki | maxb: i was hoping you had some info on the nfs issue. you asked for mreo info then went silent |
| 04:43.25 | hanasaki | tony ah.. i am getting the iso now. :) how do you like the new installer? i havent seen it yet |
| 04:43.35 | PingLH | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=7214 |
| 04:43.42 | PingLH | anyone know how i would install those icons? |
| 04:43.57 | bob2 | lisa2: then read the apt-cache manpage |
| 04:44.02 | bob2 | lisa2: apt-cache show vsftpd |
| 04:44.06 | PingLH | I dont have a Look and Feel under the control |
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| 04:44.26 | maxb | hanasaki -- sorry i said something but not with your anme in front, i was saying is there not some options for backwards compatibility with 2.4 clients? i have not done this myself so it may not work that well |
| 04:44.36 | maxb | s /anme /name |
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| 04:45.26 | AngelofDeath | if anyone wants to help me out with installing the packages for my PCMCIA controller can you send me a message... I cant seem to find the right package. |
| 04:45.42 | SexyKen | This is difficult |
| 04:45.47 | SexyKen | Anyone here use cups before? |
| 04:45.54 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: i might want to help, but slowly and on channel |
| 04:46.01 | hanasaki | maxb: ah. umm i dont see any options.. the kernel is runnign the same version of nsf as the client is expecting |
| 04:46.07 | maxb | hanasaki -- yes just had a look at kernel config, ther is an option for nfs v4 clients but it is experimental |
| 04:46.14 | hanasaki | works fine for kernel 2.4 client/server |
| 04:46.34 | hanasaki | max umm i am runnign v3 over tcp for client/server |
| 04:46.38 | AngelofDeath | hmm Ok well in the KDE gui it says I dont have the PCMCIA controller installed... |
| 04:46.39 | SexyKen | Anyone here know how to add a printer to cups? I dont know what to put as location |
| 04:46.46 | AngelofDeath | what do i need to know to find the right package? |
| 04:46.55 | tony_wt | hanasaki: I don't have a burner so i had to use floppys to boot and couldn't find a option for a hd install |
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| 04:47.03 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: I know nothing of KDE for pcmcia. hope you don't want something there |
| 04:47.19 | hanasaki | tony ah.. |
| 04:47.41 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: what's your controller name (lspci for example) ? |
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| 04:47.42 | hanasaki | tony i think i am jsut gonna boot disk1 and then do a netwrok install .. |
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| 04:47.44 | elkrammer | when running lilo i get Fatal: SINGLE-KEYSTROKE requires the label or the alias to be only a single characte |
| 04:47.46 | AngelofDeath | T_VoiD: Well I really just want to get PCMCIA device installed... for all I care I would give someone access to the machine over SSH. |
| 04:48.03 | tony_wt | hanasaki: It's pretty limited that way. |
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| 04:48.06 | AngelofDeath | T_VoiD: Honestly no idea in this world. |
| 04:48.06 | T_VoiD | I won't. I'm not good inough in laws :p |
| 04:48.09 | SexyKen | I wish you guys would help me |
| 04:48.27 | maxb | SexyKen -- we aint genies |
| 04:48.31 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: the idea was between ( and ) |
| 04:48.39 | hanasaki | tony oh? in what fasion? |
| 04:48.43 | jack|h | "SexyKen", what's the problem? |
| 04:48.45 | aPo | FSTAB trouble: I can mount manually as root without setting a type for the fs. When I use fstab mount responds that I need to choose a correct fs. I am using ext2 |
| 04:49.03 | streuner | elkrammer: what did you change in lilo.conf? |
| 04:49.08 | AngelofDeath | T_VoiD: hmm now you lost me with the between stuff. |
| 04:49.16 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: lspci . run it |
| 04:49.21 | elkrammer | streuner: nothing ;( |
| 04:49.23 | Nurbs | aPo: did you use autoß |
| 04:49.27 | SexyKen | jack: I dont know what port to say that my printer is on...it gives serial, paralell etc..but I'm using USB. |
| 04:49.31 | Nurbs | aPo: or just wrong syntax? |
| 04:49.38 | AngelofDeath | T_VoiD: ok booting and I shall. |
| 04:49.39 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: look in the results something that could be your controller. don't dump me anything, check |
| 04:49.40 | aPo | Nurbs: yes, yes i did. |
| 04:49.47 | streuner | elkrammer: with lilo -v you get that? |
| 04:50.04 | aPo | Nurbs: /dev/sda1 /mnt/photo ext2,auto noauto,user,umask=0 |
| 04:50.07 | elkrammer | streuner: nope, that worked fine! thakns |
| 04:50.58 | AngelofDeath | T_Void: closest thing i got is Carbbus Bridge... that it possibly? |
| 04:51.05 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: yes |
| 04:51.11 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: any name or brand? |
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| 04:51.28 | maxb | SexyKen -- cups on my system has an option for usb printers, did you compile in, or insert the usb printer module> |
| 04:51.40 | AngelofDeath | T_VoiD: 02 Micro, Inc. 0z6912 Cardbus controller. |
| 04:51.47 | Nurbs | aPo: ext2,auto? that syntax is valid? try just auto |
| 04:52.00 | SexyKen | maxb: I did apt-get install cupsys |
| 04:52.09 | tony_wt | hanasaki: I had to use a minimum woody install and upgrade to testing so I have no experiance to base an opinuion, sorry |
| 04:52.41 | zeke_ | anyone want to help me with a compile error for binutils? |
| 04:52.43 | aPo | Nurbs: /dev/sda1 /mnt/photo auto noauto,user,umask=0 |
| 04:52.45 | zeke_ | i can paste the error in flood. |
| 04:52.47 | maxb | SexyKen -- thats not enough, you need support for a usb printer, either compiled in your kernel or inserted as a module |
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| 04:52.59 | aPo | Nurbs: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, |
| 04:53.20 | Justin_ | aPo: fdisk -l |
| 04:53.23 | hanasaki | tony tht is what i have been doing too.. but jsut ogt a new virgin system.. time for the iso of swarge! wish me luck |
| 04:53.24 | Nurbs | aPo: autofs |
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| 04:53.40 | aPo | Nurbs: the wierd thing is if I run the command manually (mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/photo) it mounts |
| 04:53.49 | maxb | SexyKen -- the module is called usblp, try modprobing that |
| 04:53.49 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: hem that doesn't help me much more (but you did what you could hehe). so your pcmcia isn't just a pcmcia, it's a cardbus. I think now kernel 2.4+ has some good support for cardbus, I don't know about the base one from debian. |
| 04:54.11 | tony_wt | hanasaki: cool, good luck! |
| 04:54.14 | SexyKen | maxb: Can't locate it |
| 04:54.25 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: my laptop is an old non-cardbus pcmcia, I can't compare all |
| 04:54.34 | aPo | Justin_: /dev/sda1 1 237 60656 83 Linux |
| 04:54.36 | Nurbs | aPo: try autofs instead of auto. |
| 04:55.13 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: so how did you install your laptop? you answered you had pcmcia in the setup? |
| 04:55.17 | AngelofDeath | T_VoiD: I used the Test Installer the new one with hardware detection... if that helps... i believe im running unstable. |
| 04:55.21 | aPo | Nurbs: autofs, still same error |
| 04:55.35 | SexyKen | maxb: You think I should recompile my kernel? |
| 04:55.37 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: ok I'm out of date hehe |
| 04:55.44 | AngelofDeath | T_VoiD: It asked me something about PCMCIA and I selected always ask. |
| 04:56.03 | SexyKen | What's the latest stable? |
| 04:56.09 | SexyKen | Kernel |
| 04:56.11 | Nurbs | aPo: hm. well, it works for me with "auto", too. no idea atm, if it really works from the CLI |
| 04:56.20 | Nurbs | SexyKen: finger @kernel.org |
| 04:56.30 | Nurbs | SexyKen: or check www.kernel.org |
| 04:56.31 | SYNeR- | Anyone here w/ an nforce2 mobo who has got v1.0.0-rc2 ALSA drivers to work? |
| 04:56.36 | SexyKen | 2.6 |
| 04:56.38 | SexyKen | holy shizzle |
| 04:56.38 | AngelofDeath | T_Void: Well thats for trying man. My friend was helping me but in the middle of a kernel update he was like fark this and formatted.... so hes redoing his whole box now. So im alone I guess until hes done. Thanks a lot man. |
| 04:56.40 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: do you have the program /sbin/cardmgr installed? (though with cardbus I don't even know if it's needed) ? |
| 04:56.47 | aPo | Nurbs: ok, thanks for your help.. i just hate rooting everytime i want to mount |
| 04:57.02 | Nurbs | heh |
| 04:57.08 | AngelofDeath | T_VoiD: its there... |
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| 04:57.16 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: is it running currently? |
| 04:57.24 | aPo | Justin_: any ideas? |
| 04:57.31 | AngelofDeath | T_VoiD: hmmm good question... |
| 04:57.44 | AngelofDeath | T_VoiD: yes it is |
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| 04:57.53 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: ps -ef|grep cardmgr |
| 04:57.56 | T_VoiD | ok |
| 04:57.57 | lazarus | SexyKen: 2.6.0 |
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| 04:58.03 | lazarus | The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.6.0 |
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| 04:58.21 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: what do you get with: cardctl status |
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| 04:58.48 | AngelofDeath | T_VoiD: command not found. |
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| 04:59.06 | maxb | SYNeR -- are they in sid? |
| 04:59.13 | somiaj | lazarus: hmm, you've said that alot today...(: |
| 04:59.25 | Nurbs | maxb: no |
| 04:59.28 | lazarus | somiaj: only when it comes up, heh |
| 04:59.31 | paul_ | !port telnet |
| 04:59.38 | paul_ | hmm |
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| 04:59.52 | lazarus | paul_: the_port_youll_be_cracked_on |
| 04:59.52 | somiaj | lazarus: just seems every time I glance this direction I see that...(: |
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| 05:00.07 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: do you have pcmcia-cs installed? (dpkg -l pcmcia-cs) |
| 05:00.09 | lazarus | paul_: apt-get install ssh |
| 05:00.29 | paul_ | what is the standard telnet port, and doesn't one of these bots list ports? |
| 05:00.29 | lazarus | paul_: dpkg --purge telnetd |
| 05:00.29 | maxb | SYNeR -- whats wrong with the debian packages of alsa, i have an nforce2 mobo, they work sweet |
| 05:00.41 | paul_ | lazarus: :) |
| 05:00.42 | AngelofDeath | T_VoiD: I believe I do. |
| 05:00.44 | lazarus | paul_: less /etc/services |
| 05:00.49 | somiaj | paul_: /etc/services lists ports. |
| 05:00.58 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: means you didn't try. I can't continue with "I believe" |
| 05:01.09 | maxb | paul -- 23 |
| 05:01.12 | paul_ | perfect.. |
| 05:01.15 | AngelofDeath | T_VoiD: Yeah its there. |
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| 05:01.25 | AngelofDeath | T_Void: I say that because I checked half hour ago. |
| 05:01.37 | lisa2 | can someone do an atp-get search vsftpd (for stable and unstable) and tell me if they get more than the 1.0.0-2 version |
| 05:01.50 | lisa2 | I think my unstables in my list aren't working |
| 05:01.53 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: I don't really dig in the problem but well. dpkg -L pcmcia-cs | grep cardctl |
| 05:01.56 | somiaj | lisa2: /msg dpkg find vsftpd |
| 05:02.00 | lazarus | lisa2: s/search/show/ |
| 05:02.00 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: gives a line? |
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| 05:02.37 | lazarus | lisa2: s/get/cache/ |
| 05:02.50 | lazarus | lisa2: Version: 1.2.1-1 |
| 05:03.01 | lisa2 | hmm when I do an apt-get I get an older version |
| 05:03.06 | lazarus | lisa2: dselect update, as root |
| 05:03.08 | Chromakode | how do i convince the kernel packages that it is doing a fresh install |
| 05:03.17 | lisa2 | thanks |
| 05:03.21 | AngelofDeath | T_VoiD: well i think im going to just get some sleep but thanks for your help. |
| 05:03.23 | SexyKen | maxb: You think I should recompile my kernel? |
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| 05:03.33 | T_VoiD | AngelofDeath: k |
| 05:03.46 | lazarus | lisa2: apt-cache show vsftpd | grep ^Version |
| 05:03.59 | lazarus | lisa2: apt-cache show vsftpd | less |
| 05:04.09 | Chromakode | it says "since updating not creating symlinks", i'd like it to recreate them |
| 05:04.47 | lisa2 | lazarus- but updating the dselect doesn't have anything to do with the apt-get stuff right. |
| 05:05.15 | lisa2 | lazarus- when I do the apt-cache show vsftpd it only shows the old one |
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| 05:06.47 | lisa2 | I need to do some reading on this stuff |
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| 05:07.19 | PounK | Hello, scuse me if my english suck because I speak french... I install debian and I configure X with the program for configure X and X not start with starx... I try to start xf86cfg and it not start... but I think that is not the configuration beacause Im not have problem with other distribution (gentoo) please help me |
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| 05:08.00 | gravity | !tell PounK about setup X |
| 05:08.07 | lazarus | lisa2: no, not right |
| 05:08.18 | lazarus | lisa2: dselect update, as root |
| 05:08.28 | FutureDoc | PounK, don't worry, my French sucks |
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| 05:08.46 | lazarus | lisa2: if you have sid sourcees.list lines, you will be happy with the outcome |
| 05:09.07 | paul_ | lazarus: is it a simple matter to let someone ssh into one local computer, that is served by a router? |
| 05:09.26 | Pupeno | is Debian downloadable with bittorrent ? |
| 05:09.32 | lazarus | paul_: if configured to allow that, and they have an account, etc, yes |
| 05:09.50 | lazarus | Pupeno: jigdo. see the web site |
| 05:10.11 | lazarus | jigdo-lite (1) - Download jigdo files using wget |
| 05:10.12 | gravity | jigdo is anathema |
| 05:10.22 | lazarus | jigdo rocks |
| 05:10.39 | gravity | It's annoying |
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| 05:10.45 | gravity | I'm glad I only had to use it once |
| 05:12.06 | Pupeno | does jigdo do fragmented download ? |
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| 05:13.31 | kerny | I'm a Debian newbie. Is there anywhere I can get a list of what is on each of the 7 ISO files? |
| 05:14.09 | kerny | To get a descent, moderately featured base install which ISOs do I really need? I get just apt-get the rest right if I need it right? |
| 05:14.25 | chris` | kerny: just get the netinst disc then install what you want |
| 05:14.38 | bob2 | ~+cd contents |
| 05:14.40 | | well, cd contents is http://wooledge.org/~greg/woody-3.0r0-i386-X, where X is 1,2,3..7 |
| 05:14.40 | lazarus | Pupeno: again, read the web site, it is explained |
| 05:14.44 | bob2 | kerny: please don't download all the cds |
| 05:14.57 | shua_ | kerny just install first cd then use apt-get |
| 05:15.12 | bob2 | Pupeno: you mean downloading different bits of the same file at the same time to make it run ten bazillion times faster? |
| 05:15.12 | paul_ | lazarus: i'm having to mess with the router a little bit, and it's not accepting connections.. it just keeps the client waiting |
| 05:15.22 | gravity | bob2: What's the holy trinity factoid again? |
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| 05:15.42 | paul_ | lazarus: i guess i just need to know the address to try to use.. which howto would i best read? |
| 05:16.52 | Pupeno | bob2: I don't know what a bazillion is, but yes, that. |
| 05:17.06 | ramanujan | Hey Guys, I installed alsa on my machine and am playing some mp3s. I seem to have lost 'bass' in the sound. i think there is a mixer setting somewhere but I couldn't find it in amixer. any help will be appreciated |
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| 05:17.31 | blackisha | how do i reconfigure a package? |
| 05:17.38 | bob2 | gravity: htod |
| 05:17.46 | bob2 | Pupeno: then "no", because it's stupid. |
| 05:17.58 | bob2 | blackisha: dpkg-reconfigure <package> |
| 05:17.58 | lazarus | paul_: this sounds like your "router" might also be messing with port 22? |
| 05:18.02 | blackisha | thx |
| 05:18.15 | gravity | bob2: I was close. "htd" :-P |
| 05:18.22 | chris` | kerny: don't pm me, ask in the channel |
| 05:18.26 | gravity | !htod |
| 05:18.26 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, htod is qref.sf.net, newbiedoc.sf.net and http://www.tldp.org, or holy trinity of documentation |
| 05:18.34 | The_Vulture | Pupeno: it sometimse isn't that stupid.. depends where yer downloading from |
| 05:18.36 | gravity | For all the newbies in the chan |
| 05:18.40 | The_Vulture | s/ Pupeno/ bob2/ |
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| 05:18.46 | SYNeR- | ramanujan: heh, I can't even get alsa working on my box :P |
| 05:19.18 | ramanujan | this is annoying. people's voices are sounding all different |
| 05:19.28 | B0ZNACU | hi there. i have a problem with maildrop. the qmail log says: /usr/bin/maildrop:_Unable_to_create_a_dot-lock./ any idea on this? |
| 05:19.36 | gravity | Damn ALSA |
| 05:19.42 | Pupeno | bob2: why do you consider it stupid ? |
| 05:19.42 | bob2 | B0ZNACU: #qmail |
| 05:19.46 | ramanujan | and apparently there should be a 'bass' option in alsa mixer but I don't have it |
| 05:20.00 | bob2 | Pupeno: because it hammers the mirrors. |
| 05:20.08 | SYNeR- | hmm |
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| 05:20.48 | SYNeR- | i can't see bass in alsamixer.. only the different channels (or whatever you call them), volume, and the ability to Mute-all , or Mute-left/right |
| 05:20.48 | lazarus | Pupeno: 1 -- volunteer mirror maintainers pay for bandwidth |
| 05:21.03 | bob2 | SYNeR-: it depends entirely on the card. |
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| 05:21.22 | SYNeR- | oh ok |
| 05:21.22 | lazarus | Pupeno: 2 -- you *can't* use all that packages at the same time, there are ~8 incompatible MTAs for example |
| 05:21.27 | lazarus | Pupeno: 3 -- volunteer mirror maintainers pay for bandwidth |
| 05:21.47 | SYNeR- | it was ramanujan w/ the problem anyhow.. I can't even get ALSA working (and I've unmuted stuff) |
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| 05:22.00 | lazarus | Pupeno: 4 -- there are much more efficient methods available |
| 05:22.02 | Pupeno | lazarus, bob2: but for shorter time, the bandwidth usage is the same. |
| 05:22.14 | lazarus | Pupeno: wrong |
| 05:22.36 | kerny | Is there a netinstall disk for woody? |
| 05:23.09 | Pupeno | lazarus: how come the bandwidth usage is diferent if I download two bits from A than if I donwload one bit from A and one bit from B ? for stabishing comunication ? |
| 05:23.11 | lazarus | kerny: details on the web site, read there |
| 05:23.32 | lazarus | Pupeno: are you not the one talking about dl/ing 7 cds? |
| 05:24.12 | Pupeno | lazarus: I'm talking about downloading the iso images, I don't want the 7, only the first one. |
| 05:24.23 | lazarus | Pupeno: i was replying to that, if that wasn't you, redirect it :) |
| 05:24.36 | lazarus | Pupeno: no, you don't want all that |
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| 05:25.03 | lazarus | Pupeno: grab a netinst image, like kerny, it's about 32 mb or so |
| 05:25.12 | Epicenter | I installed MEPIS and OpenGL won't work .. I have a GeForce FX 5600. It works on my friend's Ti4600 using the same CD. Can anyone help? :) |
| 05:26.04 | lazarus | Pupeno: oh, and use "bf24" since you sure don't want a 2.2.x kernel when 2.6.0 is the current stable :) |
| 05:26.21 | Pupeno | bf24 ? |
| 05:26.29 | bob2 | Epicenter: wtf is "mepis"? |
| 05:26.36 | bob2 | kerny: www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 05:26.45 | bob2 | kerny: even the most obvious google search would have found it |
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| 05:26.54 | gravity | bob2: A debian-derivative that apparently is very nice |
| 05:27.02 | Epicenter | MEPIS is a debian based distro. It's AWESOME. |
| 05:27.03 | gravity | bob2: I've heard nothing but praise for mepis |
| 05:27.05 | Epicenter | Very easy to configure .. |
| 05:27.08 | terr | when and who inveted the CD-ROM?? |
| 05:27.09 | bob2 | ok. |
| 05:27.16 | Epicenter | Nearly everything works 'out of the box'. |
| 05:27.21 | bob2 | isn't that Not Our Problem, however? |
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| 05:28.27 | gravity | More or less :-) |
| 05:28.44 | kerny | How unstable is testing vs stable? |
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| 05:29.11 | gravity | kerny: It's not too bad, but you'd better have some idea of what you're doing, or at least the willpower and tenacity to do things yourself |
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| 05:29.24 | gravity | kerny: You won't get too much sympathy in here for dumb questions about unstable |
| 05:29.31 | isladur | hi |
| 05:29.32 | bucky | i found with the bf2.4 install floppies all i need is the rescue.img and the root.img and my nic is supported so the rest i just dl |
| 05:29.43 | bucky | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-install-methods#s-kernel-choice |
| 05:29.57 | bucky | and i can choose reiserfs if i want |
| 05:30.00 | Kel | oh I screwed up... I introduced my boyfriend to Anime recently... "Hey, John, I'm gunna call in a minute okay?" "later.. bebop.." not even a real answer.. just two words |
| 05:30.14 | gravity | Hahaha |
| 05:30.17 | isladur | hi kel |
| 05:30.17 | Justin_ | bucky: that is what the install guide says... |
| 05:30.18 | gravity | Bebop is good stuff |
| 05:30.23 | Kel | yea.. it is |
| 05:30.26 | bucky | yup |
| 05:30.27 | Kel | isladur: howdy |
| 05:30.57 | Kel | I dred the day he gets ahold of my Neon Genesis DVD's |
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| 05:31.05 | Kel | he'll disapear in to his TV room and lock the door |
| 05:31.21 | gravity | Oh yeah, then he'll be begging for Trigun like a crack addict |
| 05:31.27 | bucky | Justin_, that was for the people who wanted to download 7 iso images |
| 05:31.28 | Kel | hah.. yes |
| 05:31.55 | aPo | anyone here use the m68k port of debian? |
| 05:34.21 | paul_ | lazarus: re the router messing with port 22, that why i wanted to try telnet :) to see if anything would work, or if its all blocked |
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| 05:35.27 | Xenguy | mmmm... crack... |
| 05:35.30 | terr | when and who inveted the CD-ROM?? I asked b4 but there are new ppl in here now |
| 05:35.52 | knix | terr: ARE YOU FSCKING RETARDED!?!?!?!!?!/ |
| 05:35.57 | knix | bro its called google for gods sake |
| 05:36.01 | knix | AND THIS IS #DEBIAN!!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:36.02 | Xenguy | terr: http://en.wikipedia.org/ |
| 05:36.16 | aPo | terr: go |
| 05:36.19 | netsplit | lol |
| 05:36.26 | bucky | and sin no more |
| 05:36.34 | gravity | Wow |
| 05:36.41 | Kel | hee hee |
| 05:36.42 | gravity | That was a lot of bile for one dumb question |
| 05:36.42 | knix | </vent> |
| 05:36.43 | knix | >:P |
| 05:36.46 | Xenguy | satan get thee behind me =) |
| 05:37.07 | lazarus | paul_: well certainly don't do so while in this channel, where known crackers lurk, try it tomorrow, on ome other ip :))) |
| 05:37.12 | Kel | hell hath no fury like the software people given a hardware question ;) |
| 05:37.19 | gravity | The CD is about 15 years old, and it was invented by Sone |
| 05:37.21 | Xenguy | haha |
| 05:37.22 | gravity | s/Sone/Sony/ |
| 05:37.30 | gravity | Perhaps Phillips, I'm not sure |
| 05:37.46 | Kel | And all this time i thought it was another one of Gore's brain-children |
| 05:37.56 | aPo | Linux/m68k.... anyone? |
| 05:37.56 | terr | gravity - I thought it was Phips - but tonight I was told RCA - and I have asked google - couldnt find anything. |
| 05:38.07 | gravity | terr: Look more. It should be around. |
| 05:38.18 | netsplit | terr: we don't know and we don't care :) |
| 05:38.22 | gravity | This is really the wrong place to ask |
| 05:38.29 | Kel | go to google |
| 05:38.29 | knix | aPo: no, openbsd, but ask your question :F |
| 05:38.34 | Kel | put in "CD-ROM Drives +History" |
| 05:38.35 | terr | gravity - of course it _should_ be . but I couldn't find anything. |
| 05:38.42 | Kel | hit I'm feeling lucky |
| 05:38.42 | Kel | it takes you to the Wikipedia def |
| 05:38.42 | mwilson | Phillips invented the audio CD and holds the trademark on the mark. |
| 05:39.08 | aPo | knix: no question, i am just looking for someones success/failure story |
| 05:39.41 | bucky | terr, google: who invented the cdrom - first hit: This is a unique machine: the very first SCSI CDROM drive ever. It is a Philips CM110, manufactured in July 1987. |
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| 05:40.38 | Pupeno | how do you configure the network interfaces on Debian ? |
| 05:40.44 | gravity | Pupeno: man interfaces |
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| 05:40.52 | aPo | Pupeno: man ifconfig |
| 05:40.54 | SYNeR- | Pupeno: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:40.55 | terr | bucky yes - wikipeadia says phips holds the rights. |
| 05:41.05 | bucky | Pupeno, /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:41.17 | bucky | or etherconf |
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| 05:41.50 | lazarus | aPo: no, man 5 interfaces |
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| 05:42.49 | aPo | lazarus: fair |
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| 05:43.41 | SwooP | morning.. |
| 05:43.43 | SwooP | hi all |
| 05:44.01 | bucky | aPo, Pupeno: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html |
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| 05:45.06 | bob2 | gravity: sid? |
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| 05:45.23 | gravity | bob2: Huh? |
| 05:45.29 | aPo | bucky: thanks :) |
| 05:46.27 | gravity | bob2: re: postfix? Yeah |
| 05:46.28 | bob2 | gravity: postfix from sid? |
| 05:46.34 | bob2 | gravity: ah. |
| 05:46.37 | protoloco | i want to modify some important binary, could i just do /bin/ifconfig or i have to modified in the Package or the source.. ? |
| 05:46.41 | gravity | bob2: Known bug? I didn't find anything |
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| 05:46.58 | bob2 | protoloco: why do you need to modify it? |
| 05:47.13 | terr | thanx for the help. bye all |
| 05:47.16 | protoloco | bob2, i wana test "tripwire" |
| 05:47.16 | bob2 | gravity: oh, just wondering. try downgrading postfix and related bits? |
| 05:47.17 | Pupeno | I see that exim is the standard MTA in Debian, would you recomend it for managing virtual hosts with lots of users (separated by host) that are to be stored on MySQL or OpenLDAP ? |
| 05:47.29 | protoloco | bob2, i want to test tripwire if works.. |
| 05:47.32 | bob2 | Pupeno: no, use postfix. |
| 05:47.48 | lazarus | protoloco: mv the good one elsewhere, don't change it |
| 05:47.49 | protoloco | bob2, or what could i test that is easy to modify or, easy to set something.. ? |
| 05:47.55 | bob2 | protoloco: copy it somwewhere, modify the one in /sbin, run tripwire, copy it back |
| 05:48.07 | lazarus | protoloco: then cp some bogus file into place |
| 05:48.08 | gravity | bob2: Possibly. I feel like postfix is so solid though that it has to be me, but I just can't figure out what the hell is going on |
| 05:48.18 | Pupeno | ok. |
| 05:48.46 | protoloco | bob2, but could i change ifconfig ??? cuz i think so if i do "vi ifconfig" i will get just symbols, and weird characters |
| 05:48.52 | lazarus | protoloco: just be sure youo won't be bring any intercfaces up or down while you do this |
| 05:49.02 | protoloco | lazarus, oks :s |
| 05:49.11 | lazarus | protoloco: mv the fiole away first, ,don't edit it |
| 05:49.42 | lazarus | protoloco: mv /sbin/ifconfig /root/ |
| 05:49.55 | aPo | fstab problem: i can mount the device manually as root (mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/photo), but not with my fstab entry. Would anyone help me and take a look at it? |
| 05:49.58 | blackisha | r there any debs for xmms+wma? |
| 05:50.10 | gravity | Aw helll, why not? |
| 05:50.46 | bob2 | protoloco: duh, it's a binary file, all yo ucan do is randomly fuck it. |
| 05:51.00 | bob2 | blackisha: does such a thing actually exist in a Free form? |
| 05:51.01 | Pupeno | I want to sell computers with Debian to be used as servers and I want to provide Debian CDs of course, for reinstalling/rescuing the computer (actually, I'm trying to choose what distro to use to do this), but I would like to provide a slightly modified version of Debian with an easier installer, for example, I don't want to ask for partition but I want to do my own partitioning without asking... |
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| 05:51.06 | protoloco | bob2, yes.. heh |
| 05:51.30 | blackisha | ffmpeg? |
| 05:51.37 | gravity | Pupeno: Have a look at d-i |
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| 05:51.38 | Pupeno | and I want to install a set of packages without asking, I want the installation as easy and straingth forward as posibly, maybe not asking anything, just put the CD, but and wait. |
| 05:51.46 | Pupeno | Does Debian installer allows me to do this ? |
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| 05:51.54 | gravity | Pupeno: Plus there's tons of docs on the web about customizing knoppix |
| 05:51.55 | blackisha | im actually just trying to do sound test.. i dont actually use wma |
| 05:52.00 | gravity | Pupeno: Also look at morphix |
| 05:52.08 | gravity | Pupeno: There's tons of this stuff out there, just do the research |
| 05:52.18 | blackisha | (compare wma+mp3+ogg) |
| 05:52.21 | Pupeno | gratuit: what is d-i ? |
| 05:52.29 | douglas- | when I updated my mysql server, it moved the sock file from /tmp/run to /var/run, now the client wont work unless I include a -S in the command line, is there a config I can edit? I already edited the files in /etc/mysql |
| 05:52.40 | gravity | !d-i |
| 05:52.40 | dpkg | rumour has it, d-i is the sequel of boot-floopy a.k.a debian-installer. Subscribe to debian-boot and read http://people.debian.org/~tfheen/d-i/images/daily/. Please, please, please help test it. |
| 05:52.56 | mwilson | Or laugh hysterically at it. |
| 05:53.15 | bob2 | it works |
| 05:53.18 | gravity | It's good shit |
| 05:53.18 | bob2 | and it's modular |
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| 05:53.32 | Pupeno | gravity: thanks, I don't think Knoppix is what I'm looking for in this case. |
| 05:53.39 | mwilson | I find it highly amusing. |
| 05:54.22 | aPo | fstab problem: i can mount the device manually as root (mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/photo), but not with my fstab entry. Any ideas? |
| 05:54.44 | mwilson | I don't suppose you'd actually bother to show anyone what you've put in fstab. |
| 05:54.45 | bob2 | guess what the problem is. |
| 05:54.53 | bob2 | one guess. |
| 05:55.10 | mwilson | bob2: With d-i? |
| 05:55.24 | bob2 | no, with aPo |
| 05:55.30 | bob2 | obviously the problem is with his/her fstab entry |
| 05:55.40 | aPo | the fstab entry |
| 05:55.42 | aPo | /dev/sda1 /mnt/photo auto noauto,user,umask=0 |
| 05:56.07 | mwilson | aPo: And what's that supposed to do, besides be invalid? |
| 05:56.14 | bas | 2.6 is filling up my hard disk for some reason. i think this is caused by the software suspend which i want to use. but isnt that supposed to write to the swap partition only? |
| 05:56.37 | aPo | mwilson: mount, could you please point out my flaw? |
| 05:57.16 | bob2 | aPo: the fastab manpage shows you the format |
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| 05:57.26 | bob2 | aPo: adn there are half a dozen exampls in your fstab already |
| 05:57.45 | gravity | I hope the trailing 0's are there |
| 05:57.45 | mwilson | And why are you doing umask=0? If there's a digicam that supports permissions, I will be VERY much surprised. |
| 05:57.49 | gravity | ANd that he didn't just paste them |
| 05:57.51 | freyr_ | anyone know what kernel version the bf2.4 install disks are? |
| 05:57.53 | kerny | aPo: There are two more fields at the end you are missing |
| 05:58.04 | bob2 | freyr_: 2.4.18 |
| 05:58.08 | bob2 | freyr_: two local root holes |
| 05:58.29 | freyr_ | bob2: hmm... i was just hoping it was >= 2.4.22 so it would detect my network card :~( |
| 05:58.57 | bob2 | freyr_: of course not, 2.4.19 didn't even exist when woody released |
| 05:59.00 | kaka | off the topic but, just curious, what's the word for my sister's husband? brother in law? |
| 05:59.00 | mwilson | What would that have to do with it "detecting" anything? |
| 05:59.09 | gravity | kaka: Yes |
| 05:59.13 | kaka | thanks |
| 05:59.35 | freyr_ | bob2: hmm... well im going to sid anyways... but is there any way to get some install disks w/ >= 2.4.22? |
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| 05:59.56 | gravity | Wow. Well, it's nice to know that I still don't like exim4. For fuck's sake, is this really going to be the default mta? |
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| 06:00.10 | bob2 | freyr_: /msg dpkg d-i backup |
| 06:00.10 | Xenguy | re |
| 06:00.10 | bob2 | gravity: IT NEEDS MORE CONFIG FILES. |
| 06:00.10 | freyr_ | bob2: thanks |
| 06:00.10 | gravity | Hahaha |
| 06:00.15 | gravity | bob2: AND YOU CAN'T TOUCH THEM OR UNDERSTAND THEM AT ALLL!!!!!!1111 |
| 06:00.18 | aPo | thank you, i misplaced dump and pass. |
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| 06:00.37 | mwilson | I keep thinking I'll switch my unstable box to exim4, then I become sane again. |
| 06:00.37 | freyr_ | bob2: no cdrom :~( |
| 06:00.44 | gravity | Back to postfix |
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| 06:01.36 | gravity | Maybe I should just boot to woody and try and get it up and running there. If so, I'll know it's a sid problem at least |
| 06:01.46 | mwilson | No comment on the labyrinth of config files it uses, it's the un-intelligibility of it. |
| 06:01.52 | bob2 | gravity: last time I installed it it left unsibstitued debconf template junk in the config. |
| 06:02.05 | gravity | bob2: postfix did? Hmmm.... |
| 06:02.18 | gravity | Maybe purge 'n reinstall 'n config then |
| 06:03.27 | bob2 | gravity: er, exim4. |
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| 06:03.48 | gravity | bob2: Ah. |
| 06:04.01 | gravity | Well, perhaps a purge of postfix is good anyhow. Fuck knows what I've done. |
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| 06:07.03 | simonrvn | mwilson: when exim4 went to multi config, i kept my monolithic one. that many little bits to make one config is insane |
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| 06:07.55 | simonrvn | little bit of a hassle when there's a config change, but wtf. i like my monolithic config file |
| 06:08.26 | gravity | simonrvn: Me too, on the whole. |
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| 06:08.39 | gravity | simonrvn: I sort of wish postfix did it the same way, but I understand why it didn't. |
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| 06:08.50 | gravity | exim4 is madness though. Lordy. |
| 06:09.19 | simonrvn | postfix is another beast, it has the support for multi-file config. you don,t need to do includes to make it work (AFAICR) |
| 06:09.28 | gravity | Right |
| 06:09.37 | TheArthur | ssh seems to not allow logins, and sometimes gives the error "stdin is not a tty", |
| 06:09.48 | gravity | It's multifile by design, because it's really just a collection of programs rather than a monolithic one, a la exim |
| 06:09.56 | simonrvn | yeh exactly |
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| 06:10.19 | TheArthur | has anone had trouble with ssh not being able to allocate a tty? |
| 06:10.33 | TheArthur | at least i think thats the problem |
| 06:10.48 | simonrvn | try to login on localhost, from a term. still does it? |
| 06:10.59 | gravity | What was that quote? "exim is just smail done right"? |
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| 06:11.09 | simonrvn | something like that =) |
| 06:11.10 | gravity | I was surprised that smail is the mta included in knoppix. That's... weird |
| 06:11.37 | TheArthur | simonrvn: the machiene is 5 hours away, i can ssh arthur@host /bin/bash and send commands |
| 06:11.48 | TheArthur | but cant login normally |
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| 06:12.52 | smj | You guys know of a good utility that converts dotted quad IP addresses to ints? |
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| 06:14.36 | Xenguy | smj: aggregate ? |
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| 06:14.55 | smj | Xenguy: aggregate? |
| 06:15.11 | gravity | Ok. nullmailer is teh suck. I think it didn't shut down properly or something. |
| 06:15.15 | bob2 | TheArthur: what's changed? |
| 06:15.18 | Xenguy | smj: depending on what you meant by "ints" |
| 06:15.22 | bob2 | TheArthur: kernel? |
| 06:15.26 | gravity | Never mind. exim4 is teh suck |
| 06:15.30 | gravity | It didn't shut down upon purge. |
| 06:15.35 | gravity | It just gets worse and worse |
| 06:15.40 | TheArthur | running 2.6.0 |
| 06:15.56 | bob2 | TheArthur: blahblah, have you changed the kernel lately? |
| 06:16.01 | bob2 | you need to have devpts mounted. |
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| 06:16.11 | bob2 | isn't this obvious? |
| 06:16.22 | bob2 | when something stops working, you go back and see what you've changed since ti last worked? |
| 06:16.23 | TheArthur | dose it need to be mounted seperatly form /dev |
| 06:16.26 | TheArthur | with devfs? |
| 06:16.40 | bob2 | you're using devfs in 2.6? |
| 06:16.42 | atrus | TheArthur: yes |
| 06:16.43 | TheArthur | yes |
| 06:16.57 | TheArthur | i had assumed that devpts was part of dev |
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| 06:17.09 | TheArthur | ill lookinto this thanks |
| 06:17.10 | bob2 | wasn't it moved out in 2.6? |
| 06:17.12 | smj | Xenguy: Well, I'm writing a utility, part of which determines whether or not the given address is in my network. I have a several blocks of IP addresses to check and wanted to find the "beginning" and "ending" portions of each range as an Integer. |
| 06:17.15 | atrus | bob2: no |
| 06:17.24 | bob2 | atrus: devpts is still part of devfs in 2.6? |
| 06:17.35 | Xenguy | smj: good luck, beats me |
| 06:17.39 | Ra1stlin | good morning |
| 06:17.48 | smj | Xenguy: Oh well, thanks anyways. |
| 06:17.49 | atrus | bob2: it's deprecated, but its replacement isn't up to par yet, so it's still the only reliable auto-/dev system |
| 06:17.54 | Xenguy | smj: np |
| 06:18.28 | bob2 | atrus: I know, but is devpts still part of devfs in 2.6? |
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| 06:19.07 | atrus | bob2: oh... no. that requires a completely seperate mount. it happens that you mount it inside your devfs filesystem :) |
| 06:19.14 | Scarletdown | Trying to figure out why I had a freeze-up about 15 minutes ago...Couldn't even get to a text console via CTRL-ALT-F12... |
| 06:19.15 | simonrvn | bob2: never was AFAIK |
| 06:19.28 | bob2 | atrus: ah, right. |
| 06:19.31 | bob2 | TheArthur: there you go. |
| 06:19.40 | bob2 | simonrvn: hm, I'm pretty sure it was in 2.4 |
| 06:19.43 | atrus | simonrvn: how did it work before? i never needed the seperate mount in 2.4.x |
| 06:19.44 | bob2 | Scarletdown: which X driver? |
| 06:19.49 | Scarletdown | Weird thing though, I was able to SSH in from another system and reboot... |
| 06:19.55 | simonrvn | atrus: i did |
| 06:19.58 | simonrvn | still do |
| 06:20.14 | Scarletdown | The nVidia driver from nVidia's FTP site |
| 06:20.30 | bob2 | Scarletdown: there you go then. |
| 06:20.31 | simonrvn | wooops, nope. no sepearte mount. just checked fstab |
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| 06:20.39 | bob2 | simonrvn: #nvidia |
| 06:20.41 | bob2 | Scarletdown: ^ |
| 06:20.49 | simonrvn | proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 |
| 06:20.50 | simonrvn | sysfs /sys sysfs defaults 0 0 |
| 06:20.50 | bob2 | Scarletdown: and good luck, you'll never find the actual problem. |
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| 06:21.06 | simonrvn | that,s all i have that's non-fs |
| 06:21.30 | simonrvn | atrus, bob2: sorry about that :) |
| 06:21.36 | gravity | argh |
| 06:21.43 | Scarletdown | Well, if it does happen again, is there a way to kill the X-Server (by SSHing in) without having to reboot? I tried telinit 1, but that didn't seem to do anything. |
| 06:21.52 | atrus | iirc, some distros have moved to auto-mounting /dev/pts under 2.6 kernels..... |
| 06:21.54 | bob2 | Scarletdown: pkill X |
| 06:22.10 | bob2 | Scarletdown: but the nvidia stuff dives evry deep into the kernel and probably can't be safely killed |
| 06:22.12 | simonrvn | atrus: i think in debian it gets mounted from init scripts |
| 06:22.12 | TheArthur | thanks bob2 and atrius |
| 06:22.15 | Scarletdown | Okay. I never would have figured that one out by trial and error. :D |
| 06:22.36 | TheArthur | devpts dose not get mounted with out fstab |
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| 06:22.42 | TheArthur | and is not part of devfs |
| 06:22.54 | simonrvn | /etc/init.d/devpts.sh |
| 06:22.57 | atrus | simonrvn: all i know is that when i first started playing with 2.5.69-ish i needed the fstab line :) |
| 06:23.07 | TheArthur | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 06:23.14 | simonrvn | devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) |
| 06:23.17 | TheArthur | that dosent seem to do it in 2.6 |
| 06:23.17 | bob2 | TheArthur: so mount it |
| 06:23.18 | TheArthur | ?????? |
| 06:23.20 | simonrvn | 2.6.1-rc1-ben1 |
| 06:23.25 | TheArthur | i added the mount to fstab |
| 06:23.32 | TheArthur | everything works great |
| 06:23.33 | simonrvn | from mount command ^^ |
| 06:24.17 | bob2 | excellent |
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| 06:24.55 | atrus | /etc/init.d/devpts has a comment block at the beginning that explains better |
| 06:25.11 | simonrvn | .sh :) |
| 06:25.42 | tempo | what is going on with security.debian.org? |
| 06:25.47 | atrus | simonrvn: shh :) |
| 06:25.59 | simonrvn | i just mount it anywa. never had to fiddle with it |
| 06:26.03 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 06:27.59 | tempo | why when i try to get an update i get that something wicked happened to all of them? |
| 06:28.41 | simonrvn | tempo: what debian version you running? |
| 06:28.51 | tempo | simonrvn: woody |
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| 06:29.12 | simonrvn | hm, maybe it's the mirrors buggering up.. |
| 06:29.16 | Xenguy | tempo: switch mirrors, or use IP addresses instead of domain names |
| 06:29.22 | TheArthur | /etc/init.d/devpts ses devpts should not be mounted is devfs is |
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| 06:29.48 | tempo | Xenguy: it's very strange it's *all* of them |
| 06:29.57 | Xenguy | tempo: shrug |
| 06:30.06 | pounk | please help me, I have an problem with Xf4.. I use xf86cfg and I have this error Xfree86 has found a valid card configuration. Unfortunately the appropriate data has not been addded to xf86PciInfo.h. Please forward 'scanpci -v' output to Xfree86 support team. |
| 06:30.08 | TheArthur | this is confusing |
| 06:30.13 | simonrvn | several people have come in with the same problem |
| 06:30.23 | TheArthur | because it devpts seems to need to be mounted anyway |
| 06:30.40 | simonrvn | pounk: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 -- use that, don't use xf86cfg |
| 06:30.45 | gravity | I've come to the conclusion that every single mta sucks hard |
| 06:30.47 | simonrvn | TheArthur: it does |
| 06:31.09 | TheArthur | it certainly seems to need to |
| 06:31.15 | TheArthur | be mounted |
| 06:31.31 | TheArthur | gravity i came to that comclusion also |
| 06:31.39 | gravity | It's very sad |
| 06:31.45 | simonrvn | some just suck less than others |
| 06:31.48 | pounk | simonrvn: I try and I have an error when I start startx |
| 06:31.52 | TheArthur | gravity and i think postgress sucks less hard if you configure it with out procmail |
| 06:32.05 | gravity | postgres? |
| 06:32.07 | gravity | The db? |
| 06:32.13 | simonrvn | pounk: try giving it proper info instead of making it up, or choosing the worng drivers, etc. |
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| 06:32.33 | simonrvn | i think he means postfix |
| 06:32.37 | TheArthur | yea |
| 06:32.38 | pounk | and I dont have problem with gentoo... |
| 06:32.39 | TheArthur | postfix |
| 06:32.40 | gravity | Ah, right |
| 06:33.12 | gravity | Surely it's no harder in debian? |
| 06:33.14 | simonrvn | shrugs even |
| 06:33.17 | TheArthur | xing in gentoo can be pain in ass |
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| 06:33.29 | Bomin | does anyone know of a utility that would help me determine if my box has been rooted or if there has been a trojan installed? |
| 06:33.34 | TheArthur | my advice is write the config by hand, and take the discussion to #gentoo |
| 06:33.41 | simonrvn | they probably use discover or something, or *shudder* kudzu |
| 06:33.47 | gravity | Bomin: chkrootkit |
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| 06:33.59 | gravity | heh |
| 06:34.10 | Xenguy | Bomin: bingo |
| 06:34.12 | gravity | simonrvn: I was thinking about trying to write a script that would plunder the kudzu data for discover |
| 06:34.18 | gravity | That'd be very very nice |
| 06:34.23 | VynoM | Bomin Couldn't you just type who ? That'd tell ya if someone was logged in |
| 06:34.29 | simonrvn | doesn't kudzu just use discover calls? |
| 06:34.40 | gravity | simonrvn: No, it's its own deal |
| 06:34.41 | simonrvn | VynoM: uh, no. not always |
| 06:34.47 | gravity | simonrvn: They have separate data files too, afaik |
| 06:34.47 | simonrvn | gravity: *nod* |
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| 06:34.54 | Bomin | VynoM: they may have logged off but left a piece of software running |
| 06:35.09 | gravity | The idea being that if theirs have some modules where discover is listed as "unknown", we can get the correct data |
| 06:35.18 | simonrvn | yeh |
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| 06:35.23 | gravity | That came out all wrong :-P Hope it made some sense |
| 06:35.28 | simonrvn | it did |
| 06:35.31 | simonrvn | :) |
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| 06:35.35 | gravity | Cool :-) |
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| 06:35.45 | gravity | But first, I've got to be able fucking send out emails |
| 06:35.46 | simonrvn | the dent in spacetime makes up for it ;P |
| 06:35.50 | gravity | Haha |
| 06:35.58 | VynoM | Ugh... my partitions are all messed up. |
| 06:36.09 | pounk | what is the video card bus identifier ? |
| 06:36.27 | VynoM | lspci |
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| 06:36.33 | TheArthur | at about 5:30 on sat, disk 30 is going to move in emacs: hanoi-unix!!! |
| 06:36.34 | simonrvn | i don,t bother with thta if there's only one video card on the machine |
| 06:36.51 | pounk | i write lspci? |
| 06:36.59 | Bomin | Xenguy: is 'Bingo' another piece of software, or were you just confirming gravity? |
| 06:36.59 | VynoM | Oh, sorry. Wrong window |
| 06:37.03 | simonrvn | no. you type that in a term |
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| 06:37.10 | simonrvn | pounk: ^^ |
| 06:37.28 | VynoM | was checking to see if lspci showed the id |
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| 06:37.47 | VynoM | looks like it does |
| 06:37.54 | simonrvn | it does. do lspci -n |
| 06:38.05 | marius_ | does the debian installer support via 6410 ide raid? |
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| 06:38.20 | simonrvn | does it? |
| 06:38.23 | bucky | pounk, get the results for your card and then tell the installer PCI:01:00:00 or whatever your bus identifier is for your card |
| 06:38.31 | TheArthur | marius_: i dont think so |
| 06:38.34 | pounk | what write in |
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| 06:38.39 | pounk | oup |
| 06:38.40 | pounk | no |
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| 06:39.20 | pounk | scuse me because I don't speak english |
| 06:39.28 | VynoM | should see VGA compatible controller: Name of card here Then look for the xx:xx.x number infront |
| 06:39.57 | VynoM | should be what bucky said it was. I guess |
| 06:40.22 | Bomin | is there any way to update 'chkrootkit' ? like a database update or something so I know it's doing all the latest checks? |
| 06:40.37 | pounk | my card is an s3 pro savage |
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| 06:40.51 | bucky | pounk, usually you can just enter nothing if you only have one card |
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| 06:41.01 | pounk | ok... |
| 06:41.11 | VynoM | ugh. I suppose I need to figure this out. grub isn't playing nicely. SCSI refuses to load |
| 06:41.25 | Stereo | is there a free software alternative to ms exchange? A customer of mine would like to move their outlook contacts to their linux server |
| 06:41.48 | simonrvn | Bomin: get the one from sid (download it by hand). it's just a script, so no problems with different libc6 |
| 06:42.07 | wobbler | apt-cache show chkrootkit |
| 06:42.24 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:42.37 | gravity | Why does postfix hate me? |
| 06:42.40 | simonrvn | or i386 :) |
| 06:42.53 | gravity | Every single piece of documentation says I'm doing this right, afaik |
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| 06:43.02 | Bomin | I installed chkrootkit (i'm using testing on this server)... it did it's thing, but didn't detect anything bad |
| 06:43.08 | simonrvn | gravity: because it dislikes you? :P |
| 06:43.12 | gravity | Grrr |
| 06:43.20 | gravity | Damn thing just wants to fly, like everyone else |
| 06:43.25 | gravity | Well I won't let it get away with that!@ |
| 06:43.34 | simonrvn | Bomin: then it either didn,t find anything or didn,t find anything (yes, there's a difference ;) |
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| 06:43.55 | pounk | I reconfigure xfree and I have the error (EE) no device detected. Fatal error No screen |
| 06:44.05 | pounk | found |
| 06:44.09 | simonrvn | leave off the PCI thing |
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| 06:44.50 | simonrvn | run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 again, and remove the stuff for the PCI ID |
| 06:45.03 | JoePenguin | Stereo: the is the only related thing that I know about: http://www.ximian.com/products/connector/ |
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| 06:45.17 | pounk | I dont write in pci id |
| 06:45.31 | kalessin | Hello all, I have a dumb html question. I want to embed an html document into a table in another html document, and I'd -like- the size of the embedded document to be automatically determined. |
| 06:45.37 | simonrvn | then run it again anyway, and pick a different driver |
| 06:45.57 | Bomin | simonrvn: I don't think this machine's been compromised, just that I got a message from someone claming that this machine is generating/relaying spam - but I tested it for an open relay, and I've run netstat to see if there were any odd programs listening for connections, and I've run my own nmap tests, plus chkrootkit... nothing. I think this guy's on crack |
| 06:46.14 | gravity | pounk: Don't use the framebuffer either |
| 06:46.24 | fooz | Bomin, watch outgoing traffic |
| 06:46.25 | simonrvn | Bomin: uh, no. if you have too open of an MTA, then it's an open relay |
| 06:46.27 | pounk | my driver is savage and il run in other distribution |
| 06:46.36 | pounk | gravity: I dont use |
| 06:46.52 | pounk | I choice No |
| 06:46.54 | gravity | pounk: Are you sure it's supported in this version of XFree86? |
| 06:47.01 | gravity | pounk: Your card I mean. |
| 06:47.09 | Stereo | JoePenguin: thanks |
| 06:47.15 | fooz | simonrvn, i have an urge to break into machines :/ |
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| 06:47.18 | fooz | and be a black hat |
| 06:47.21 | gravity | pounk: And I don't care whether or not gentoo supports it, is it supported by the version of X you're running now? |
| 06:47.23 | fooz | hehe |
| 06:47.27 | simonrvn | doesn't necessarily mean you have an LKM trojan or or other exploit. "just" mis-configured MTA |
| 06:47.36 | simonrvn | fooz: yes dear. go back to sleep :P |
| 06:47.43 | Bomin | simonrvn: I've run a couple of open relay tests available online, and they come back clean |
| 06:48.02 | simonrvn | no thanks :) |
| 06:48.04 | Stereo | kalessin: that's a dumb thing to do :p. Yuk. Buy use <iframe> |
| 06:48.10 | gravity | pounk: If you want to make sure it's not a problem with the driver you selected, use the vesa driver. |
| 06:48.19 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 06:48.26 | kalessin | Stereo nope. iframes don't determine the size for you. |
| 06:48.31 | kalessin | Stereo first thing I tried. |
| 06:48.50 | Stereo | web pages don't have a size, really |
| 06:49.03 | fooz | simonrvn, it was brought on by spammers |
| 06:49.06 | kalessin | Stereo sure they do. the bounding box required to contain their text. |
| 06:49.10 | fooz | simonrvn, i feel like taking out some open relays |
| 06:49.26 | simonrvn | anyone really want to have fun? 200.221.149.132 |
| 06:49.31 | fooz | what is that? |
| 06:49.34 | Stereo | kalessin: yeah but what if I have a large font? |
| 06:49.36 | simonrvn | they just tried someportmap exploits |
| 06:49.43 | fooz | on you? |
| 06:49.46 | simonrvn | yes |
| 06:49.58 | fooz | hehe. brasil |
| 06:50.00 | kalessin | Stereo then the size of the box increases. I want it render the way tables do. |
| 06:50.06 | simonrvn | every night for the past 3 days |
| 06:50.09 | Stereo | simonrvn: I'd be offended. Portmap? That's low |
| 06:50.20 | simonrvn | i *am* offended |
| 06:50.23 | simonrvn | :) |
| 06:50.23 | kalessin | Stereo in effect, I want to #include something inside a <td> element, and then have it rendered as it should. |
| 06:50.41 | simonrvn | of course i deny anything outside |
| 06:50.54 | Stereo | kalessin: do it server-side then, with php |
| 06:50.57 | pounk | whit the vesa the error is the screen found but I have dont usable configuration |
| 06:51.01 | VynoM | is there a command to reset the scsi emulation? for cd-rw? |
| 06:51.08 | Stereo | inside a (yuk) td |
| 06:51.20 | kalessin | Stereo a, don't speak php. b, don't have a server that is running php. |
| 06:51.22 | simonrvn | VynoM: try unloading the module, then loading it back in |
| 06:51.35 | VynoM | simonrvn that's the ide-scsi module right? |
| 06:51.48 | simonrvn | yes |
| 06:51.49 | fooz | simonrvn, they are firewalled |
| 06:51.50 | simonrvn | Jan 7 21:39:16 nuit portmap[7333]: connect from 200.221.149.132 to dump(): request from unauthorized host |
| 06:52.09 | pounk | if I use apt to get xfree, Do I have the latest version? |
| 06:52.25 | simonrvn | fooz: i suspect it's a spoof anyway |
| 06:52.27 | debian | simonrvn: complain to security@UOL.COM.BR :) |
| 06:52.29 | atrus | kalessin: last i heard, there was no reliable way to do what you want with plain HTML. stylesheets possibly. |
| 06:52.35 | gravity | pounk: Install read-edid and mdetect, then run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. It'll make life easier on you. |
| 06:52.38 | VynoM | ok, I've never unloaded a module. How about that... google time |
| 06:52.42 | gravity | pounk: Oh, and discover. |
| 06:53.02 | simonrvn | i've had the same attempts from different IPs over the few weeks |
| 06:53.04 | kalessin | atrus I'd thought that was the case, but hoped I was wrong. < sigh > |
| 06:53.07 | gravity | pounk: And no, you likely don't have the latest version. |
| 06:53.08 | simonrvn | always a dump() |
| 06:53.23 | fooz | I need to recompile without portmap and nfsd built in |
| 06:53.28 | fooz | since i don't really use those anymore |
| 06:53.39 | simonrvn | i do. i build them as modules though |
| 06:53.46 | fooz | yeah |
| 06:53.49 | fooz | dunno why i didn't use modules |
| 06:53.49 | VynoM | Crap. Still didn't work. maybe my scsi driver just doesn't work |
| 06:53.53 | fooz | but now i'm all gung ho on security |
| 06:54.23 | tempo | how can it be that *all* of my resouces in my apt-get sources.list comes out with 'something wicked happened resolving xxx' when i try to apt-get update? |
| 06:55.17 | JoePenguin | tempo: have you noticed any other network problems lately? |
| 06:55.29 | atrus | kalessin: if there's any option to make iframes do the job you want, it's probably in the stylesheet properties of the iframe, which might not be too hard to fix. you'll have to at least provide a width, and hopefully there's an auto-height since last i tried. |
| 06:55.43 | tempo | JoePenguin: nope. |
| 06:55.49 | simonrvn | tempo: maybe you have a corrupt db. what happens when you do dselect update? |
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| 06:57.02 | tempo | simonrvn: update available list script returned error exit status 1. |
| 06:57.02 | simonrvn | nod |
| 06:57.05 | snoke | is the way update apt's installed package cache, if i apt-get --purge remove package still shows in apt-get remove's completetion? |
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| 06:58.04 | simonrvn | snoke: zsh? |
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| 06:59.53 | snoke | simonrvn: no, in default shell (bash) |
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| 06:59.59 | cafuego | blah |
| 06:59.59 | Epicenter | Hello :) I just installed MEPIS from the latest CD image. OpenGL |
| 07:00.00 | Epicenter | does not work at all. I have a GeForce FX 5600. My friend used the same disc and his |
| 07:00.00 | Epicenter | Ti4600 worked GREAT. What am I doing wrong? :( |
| 07:00.06 | bob2 | Epicenter: #mepis |
| 07:00.11 | bob2 | mepis is not debian |
| 07:00.15 | bob2 | knoppix is not debian |
| 07:00.19 | bob2 | morphix is not debian |
| 07:00.22 | bob2 | I am not debian |
| 07:00.29 | simonrvn | snoke: it probably does what zsh does, consult the whole db, and not just the installed ones (which makes sense) |
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| 07:00.49 | Epicenter | No one is ever in #mepis. |
| 07:00.52 | Epicenter | Only maybe 10 people |
| 07:00.54 | Epicenter | 9 of them idle. |
| 07:00.56 | gravity | If I was Debian, I'd be very angry or something. Lots of fire. |
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| 07:01.11 | simonrvn | with that awesome swirl, no kidding :) |
| 07:01.13 | gravity | Epicenter: google more |
| 07:01.26 | gravity | Epicenter: We don't know anything about the particulars of mepis to help you |
| 07:01.36 | snoke | simonrvn: it make's sense but if i onlu take apt-ret remove without --purge it works |
| 07:01.38 | bob2 | Epicenter: I bet #installing-kittiens-into-cow-rectums is empty, too, but it's still OT here. |
| 07:01.41 | cafuego | Epicenter: Maybe you should consider not running mepis if there is no support. |
| 07:01.56 | gravity | bob2: Are you sure? I'd discuss that... |
| 07:01.56 | bob2 | Epicenter: under Debian, the answer would be /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 07:01.58 | simonrvn | snoke: 'it works'? #define 'it works' |
| 07:01.59 | gravity | fnord |
| 07:02.04 | Bomin | in nmap, a port detected as 'filtered' is essentially closed, or not accepting connections, right? |
| 07:02.05 | bob2 | yeah, but you're a sicko! |
| 07:02.05 | simonrvn | what was that? |
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| 07:02.13 | cafuego | #define "it works" false |
| 07:02.19 | simonrvn | heh |
| 07:02.20 | gravity | bob2: Damn right! |
| 07:02.28 | gravity | bob2: Postfix has made me even worse tonight, methinks |
| 07:02.44 | fooz | Bomin, it means it didn't get a tcp RST and didn't get an open socket |
| 07:02.50 | fooz | no reply |
| 07:02.54 | snoke | simonrvn: package is no more in apt-get remove list |
| 07:02.57 | cafuego | Bomin: it means the firewall is limiting connections |
| 07:03.19 | cafuego | Bomin: .. and not by way of REJECT |
| 07:03.23 | snoke | simonrvn: i mean "apt-get remove + <tab>" list |
| 07:03.33 | simonrvn | snoke: oh. then maybe the bash_completion thingy is fucked then |
| 07:03.37 | Bomin | cafuego: just no response? |
| 07:03.42 | protoloco_ | hey to compile a module what i have to do, i have to compile a module, here is the example that the autor gave me: cc -c -O3 nerf-hft.c -I/usr/src/linux-2.4/include |
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| 07:03.51 | fooz | what patch? |
| 07:03.59 | fooz | 2.4 have another r00t situation? |
| 07:04.08 | simonrvn | @topicsmite fooz |
| 07:04.14 | cafuego | 2.6.1-rc3 |
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| 07:04.32 | cafuego | fooz: No, but the latest 2.6.x root situation got non-fixed |
| 07:04.33 | fooz | oh, 2.4.18 |
| 07:04.37 | snoke | simonrvn: jea, i gues same, but i was if someone else get same effect |
| 07:04.39 | fooz | cafuego, that sucks |
| 07:04.43 | simonrvn | i know the load is 3, but wake the fuck up bot |
| 07:04.46 | snoke | huoh |
| 07:05.14 | jm_ | ravenbird: mknod /dev/patience |
| 07:05.16 | ravenbird | jm_: j'ai pas d'idée de quoi tu parles |
| 07:05.20 | jm_ | ;) |
| 07:05.28 | cafuego | simonrvn: Time to upgrade that no-good piece of 486 |
| 07:05.28 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 07:05.40 | simonrvn | cafuego: no such beast here |
| 07:05.48 | fooz | hm, not much spam since setting up RBL.. either the RBL works good or I accidentally killed all incoming mail |
| 07:05.56 | fooz | oh well, who cares |
| 07:06.00 | cafuego | fooz: either way, it's good. |
| 07:06.02 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 07:06.28 | Justin_ | fooz: i have messagewall running which blocks almost every incoming email from that |
| 07:06.43 | Epicenter | Wierd thing is, MEPIS comes with nVidia driver support built in. It booted up and, bang, my friend had OpenGL on his Ti4600. No such luck for me. It installed the drivers and such, they just don't do shit. ;) |
| 07:06.56 | Justin_ | its all obvious spam though..From: honeyambler@forpresident.com |
| 07:07.00 | simonrvn | Epicenter: we. don't. care. still. OT |
| 07:07.09 | simonrvn | . |
| 07:07.17 | Justin_ | #mepis? |
| 07:07.20 | Epicenter | MEPIS is Debian based |
| 07:07.23 | cafuego | Epicenter: yes, nvidia hardware seems to have that problem a lot. |
| 07:07.26 | Epicenter | and #mepis is always empty |
| 07:07.31 | Epicenter | Stop being rude, Simon. |
| 07:07.33 | cafuego | Epicenter: That's why I recommend against it. |
| 07:07.37 | Justin_ | 02:06 ::: #mepis 12 Happy New Year! w00t! |
| 07:07.38 | simonrvn | Epicenter: that doesn't mean we owe you support. now go away |
| 07:07.43 | Epicenter | Well, I cannot change my card. It's a laptop ;) |
| 07:07.48 | Epicenter | Blow me, Simon. |
| 07:07.55 | *** mode/#debian [+o simonrvn] by ChanServ |
| 07:07.55 | Epicenter | It's people like you that give IRC a bad name. |
| 07:07.55 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@Gate.SPSU.EDU] by simonrvn |
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| 07:07.57 | cafuego | Epicenter: Surely you can read specs BEFORE you buy it. |
| 07:08.13 | cafuego | simonrvn: That was "rude and stupid" again huh? |
| 07:08.22 | gravity | ugh |
| 07:08.23 | simonrvn | *shrug* |
| 07:08.26 | fooz | openafs 1.2.10a is so flaky |
| 07:08.31 | cafuego | simonrvn: #debian has that image |
| 07:08.44 | cafuego | simonrvn: well, if yesterday's troll was to be believed |
| 07:08.45 | fooz | file server won't go down when i pay it to |
| 07:08.49 | Justin_ | maybe if he described the problem more then "doesn't do shit"... |
| 07:08.57 | simonrvn | i was perfectly polite. i didn't call him names or anything. *and* he was already warned about that |
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| 07:09.02 | cafuego | fooz: only MS fileservers can be bribed |
| 07:09.32 | debian | banning entire university? :) |
| 07:09.32 | cafuego | simonrvn: But everyone on #mepis is asleep! |
| 07:09.34 | simonrvn | g'night lorez |
| 07:09.42 | Justin_ | now I know how to make X work in debian, and now how to make the nvidia drivers work...who knows what mepis is trying to do |
| 07:09.50 | Justin_ | so based on debian my ass |
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| 07:10.03 | gravity | exactly |
| 07:10.12 | simonrvn | some people will just make shit up just to look good |
| 07:10.15 | cafuego | Justin_: Really? So you cna apt-get install haemmorhoids? |
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| 07:10.20 | gravity | There are downsides to choosing any distro, including the easy ones like mepis |
| 07:10.23 | gravity | ffs |
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| 07:10.42 | fooz | this is why I made my own distro |
| 07:10.54 | gravity | fooz: That way nothing would work? ;-) |
| 07:10.58 | fooz | then it's ALL downsides |
| 07:11.00 | fooz | gravity, exactly |
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| 07:11.03 | gravity | hehe |
| 07:11.03 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 07:11.10 | cafuego | finally, he's uploading the patch |
| 07:11.20 | Justin_ | i'd love a debian distro that uses gnu stow :-) |
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| 07:11.35 | simonrvn | to install everything? |
| 07:11.36 | gravity | Uh...? |
| 07:11.41 | Justin_ | yea... |
| 07:11.43 | fooz | nah it's mostly good.. only things that scare me are kernel upgrades and init script upgrades |
| 07:11.46 | fooz | and sometimes glibc upgrades |
| 07:11.53 | gravity | Ah. Sounds kinda cool in concept |
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| 07:12.00 | fooz | cause i'm kinda rewriting everything |
| 07:12.06 | Justin_ | (%:~)- ls /usr/bin|wc -l \ 2886 |
| 07:12.12 | Justin_ | gets to be a bit much |
| 07:12.21 | simonrvn | eeyeow |
| 07:12.33 | gravity | Hehe... reminds me of the namespace troll from yesterday |
| 07:12.41 | simonrvn | 2894 |
| 07:12.56 | gravity | 2110 |
| 07:13.01 | fooz | 862 |
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| 07:13.17 | fooz | 2104 for my debian box :) |
| 07:13.22 | simonrvn | i need to do a --purge |
| 07:13.23 | cafuego | 1565 |
| 07:13.24 | gravity | heh |
| 07:13.44 | Justin_ | simonrvn: how long you have that installed? |
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| 07:13.48 | simonrvn | /usr is 92% full |
| 07:13.50 | cafuego | 871 on the production server |
| 07:13.59 | Justin_ | this install goes back 4 years or so |
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| 07:14.06 | gravity | Hm... I think I really like di better than df |
| 07:14.08 | fooz | my /usr has 7GB |
| 07:14.09 | cafuego | 924 on the other production server |
| 07:14.11 | gravity | Nifty little app |
| 07:14.16 | simonrvn | hmm.. good question.. let,s see |
| 07:14.32 | cafuego | fooz: And how about if you subtract /usr/src ? |
| 07:14.41 | Justin_ | i wish I knew how to find out |
| 07:14.45 | fooz | hehe |
| 07:14.55 | fooz | /usr/src is 2.2GB or so |
| 07:15.00 | simonrvn | probably since winter of 2002 |
| 07:15.21 | cafuego | The only partition with kess then 9?% of space is use is /tmp, which ahs 1% in use. |
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| 07:15.32 | fooz | you people need bigger drives |
| 07:15.39 | cafuego | fooz: MORE drives |
| 07:15.41 | gravity | And dicks |
| 07:15.45 | Justin_ | less porn |
| 07:15.46 | Justin_ | heh |
| 07:15.56 | JoePenguin | 640GB ought to be enough for anybody :P |
| 07:16.02 | Justin_ | fucking perl+wget, instant full drive |
| 07:16.02 | cafuego | That's only 4x4.3Gb SCSI |
| 07:16.05 | fooz | aw, only 2.6GB |
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| 07:16.10 | gravity | Because, after all, your hardware is directly proportional to manhood :-P |
| 07:16.12 | bob2 | pydf! |
| 07:16.27 | cafuego | gravity: inversely, you mean? |
| 07:16.32 | simonrvn | i bet /usr/src here takes up most of the 5 GB in /usr |
| 07:16.32 | gravity | cafuego: ;-) |
| 07:16.36 | Justin_ | discus is nice too |
| 07:16.42 | JoePenguin | gravity: don't forget your uptime |
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| 07:17.05 | gravity | JoePenguin: Ah yes. Because what good is hardware if you can't keep it up> |
| 07:17.11 | simonrvn | Marxist-Bastard: don't IRC as Adminstr |
| 07:17.12 | fooz | I've got tons of data all over on that system |
| 07:17.30 | fooz | it's my server and home of my distro Suckix and development machine and file storage |
| 07:17.31 | cafuego | Profoss: you do that, |
| 07:17.35 | simonrvn | ...which doesn't exist |
| 07:17.36 | cafuego | blah |
| 07:17.36 | streuner | cafuego: did you read /topic? |
| 07:17.44 | simonrvn | 1.2G /usr/src |
| 07:17.49 | simonrvn | according to du |
| 07:17.50 | gravity | Ohh... discus is really pretty |
| 07:17.59 | gravity | And pydf is basically identical to it |
| 07:18.01 | cafuego | streuner: Yes, I also read lkml. |
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| 07:18.15 | magaete_ | somebody knows like adding menus of kde3 to gnome2.4? |
| 07:18.19 | cafuego | streuner: Having a 2.4.22 soruce tree is in no way related to actually *running* that kernel. |
| 07:18.30 | Profoss | cafuego: huh? |
| 07:18.40 | streuner | cafuego: ic |
| 07:18.41 | cafuego | Profoss: tab nick completion went wrong |
| 07:18.50 | Profoss | ah |
| 07:19.08 | gravity | I think I like discus best, simply because it organizes by mount point, and has the graph at the very end. Very easy to scan. |
| 07:19.10 | cafuego | wtf do i compile xfs support? |
| 07:19.10 | simonrvn | fucking cron jobs |
| 07:19.35 | mwilson | cafuego: Nowhere. 2.4.24 doesn't have xfs. |
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| 07:19.40 | simonrvn | noisy barracuda + cron jobs = $make_simonrvn_crazy |
| 07:19.57 | gravity | Oh yeah! |
| 07:20.22 | cafuego | mwilson: mentioning 2.4.22 on one box is in no way related to compiling a kernel on a different box |
| 07:20.49 | cafuego | mwilson: it's enabled, I was just wondering why, since I don't use it. |
| 07:20.49 | magaete_ | somebody knows like adding menus of kde3 to gnome2.4? |
| 07:21.17 | simonrvn | @tell magaete_ about repeat |
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| 07:21.31 | gravity | magaete_: For KDE, use the menu editor. For gnome, it's very hard so don't waste your time. |
| 07:21.33 | chris | is there a gnome2/metacity theme creator/designer? |
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| 07:21.43 | simonrvn | gimp1.3 |
| 07:21.59 | magaete_ | ok... tks |
| 07:22.05 | cafuego | well well! |
| 07:22.20 | gravity | Mmm... gimpy |
| 07:22.24 | fooz | what's everyone's favorite linux kernel security patch? |
| 07:22.26 | cafuego | That box has a 15Gb /dev/hdf which isn't doing anything! |
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| 07:22.40 | cafuego | the things you notice in dmesg... |
| 07:22.41 | fooz | cafuego, haha |
| 07:23.00 | cafuego | AND a 4.2Gb hde2 |
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| 07:23.14 | fooz | I have no volumes with lower than 25% utilisation |
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| 07:23.36 | simonrvn | i do |
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| 07:23.42 | cafuego | fooz: Ditto, 72% |
| 07:23.57 | fooz | cafuego, you said you had an unused 15GB hdf |
| 07:24.21 | cafuego | fooz: That's not a volume until it gets partitioned and mkfs'd. |
| 07:25.01 | fooz | i've got about 30GB of space allocated to AFS |
| 07:25.06 | fooz | 20GB to /home |
| 07:25.12 | cafuego | oic, that's the old hdd that was hda when the ide controller went bad and ruined it |
| 07:25.29 | g4lt | suuuure, blame the controller |
| 07:25.43 | cafuego | g4lt: yeah, the drive is fine on a pci card |
| 07:26.15 | cafuego | g4lt: Wanna buy a good-as-new Aopen K6 mobo? |
| 07:27.08 | g4lt | cafuego what's the chip? |
| 07:27.20 | cafuego | g4lt: chip? |
| 07:27.26 | cafuego | chipset? |
| 07:27.47 | g4lt | cafuego no, what K6. they DID come in a few different flavors ;) |
| 07:27.47 | cafuego | To be honest, I don't remember. |
| 07:27.58 | cafuego | g4lt: it' a mobo. not a chip. |
| 07:28.16 | simonrvn | fooz: holy crap, how big of a drive(s) do you have there? |
| 07:28.26 | fooz | two 80GBs in RAID1 |
| 07:28.28 | cafuego | g4lt: I did used to run a K6-2/300 chip in it, then a K6-2/500. |
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| 07:28.59 | g4lt | ahhh, as in chipless. no sale. I got a use for a K6-2/400, but not anothe rmainboard |
| 07:29.02 | simonrvn | me and my piddling 27 GB in 3 scsi drives |
| 07:29.15 | cafuego | g4lt: You cna have both the 300 and 500. I'm sure one of 'em works |
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| 07:29.33 | fooz | i wish they built SMP K6-3s |
| 07:29.38 | tempo | simonrvn: seems like something is wrong with the network. i can ssh but i can't get to the VirtualHost and i can't apt-get |
| 07:29.38 | fooz | that would be sweet |
| 07:29.46 | cafuego | well and that 15Gb |
| 07:29.59 | fooz | that's at my old work still.. at home I've got numerous 40GB drives around |
| 07:30.01 | mwilson | cafuego: That's all? :) |
| 07:30.09 | cafuego | mwilson: In that box, yes. |
| 07:30.21 | fooz | i need to get some money and buy 500GB of storage |
| 07:30.25 | simonrvn | tempo: check you iptables rules maybe |
| 07:30.28 | fooz | only problem is that there's no suitable network FS for it |
| 07:30.30 | fooz | :( |
| 07:30.37 | cafuego | fooz: Xserver RAID! |
| 07:30.44 | cafuego | s/ver/ve/ |
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| 07:30.50 | fooz | cafuego, how much are those? |
| 07:30.54 | fooz | and how do they attach? |
| 07:30.56 | cafuego | fooz: Too much for me... |
| 07:31.05 | cafuego | fooz: gigabite |
| 07:31.09 | tempo | simonrvn: where do i check my iptables? |
| 07:31.09 | cafuego | gigbit, sorry |
| 07:31.10 | streuner | more storage gives me only headache how to backup it :-) |
| 07:31.12 | cafuego | fuck |
| 07:31.19 | cafuego | apt-get install ispell |
| 07:31.29 | fooz | it'd be cheap to set up 500GB of storage with just disks |
| 07:31.33 | fooz | in some box |
| 07:31.38 | simonrvn | tempo: do you even have a set of rules installed ? (let me guess, no you don't) |
| 07:32.00 | cafuego | fooz: US$6000 for 1Tb |
| 07:32.09 | fooz | that's expensive |
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| 07:32.24 | skuit | heck |
| 07:32.46 | simonrvn | holy fuck. how do you back up a tb? |
| 07:32.50 | cafuego | fooz: Comes with 2x128Mb of cache tho |
| 07:33.02 | cafuego | simonrvn: You hope to hell a plane doesn't land on it ;-) |
| 07:33.08 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 07:33.11 | cafuego | fooz: on the controller |
| 07:33.21 | fooz | cafuego, so it's SCSI? |
| 07:33.27 | cafuego | fooz: No, ATA |
| 07:33.31 | fooz | hmm |
| 07:33.36 | cafuego | fooz: the base model has 4 250Gb drive |
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| 07:33.41 | fooz | cheapass |
| 07:33.45 | cafuego | fooz: You can expand it to 3.5Tb |
| 07:34.04 | cafuego | hardware raid0, 1, 3, 5, 10, 30, 50 |
| 07:34.11 | cafuego | and 0+1 |
| 07:34.29 | simonrvn | guess what cafuego wants for his b-day present :P |
| 07:34.39 | cafuego | simonrvn: I am getting what I want |
| 07:34.42 | fooz | cafuego, that's okay, steve |
| 07:34.46 | streuner | simonrvn: lol |
| 07:34.55 | cafuego | simonrvn: Babylon 5 Season 3. |
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| 07:35.00 | simonrvn | :) |
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| 07:35.03 | streuner | rofl |
| 07:35.07 | fooz | i like linux software RAID |
| 07:35.18 | cafuego | and a softwate+hardware upgrade for the TV so it can do HDTV |
| 07:35.38 | cafuego | which, i am happy to add, i am also getting |
| 07:35.47 | holycow | cafuego, neat. yeah you can only really backup large storaged to hd and nothing else. anything else simply isnt cost effective |
| 07:35.55 | cafuego | s/hdtv/digital widescreen/ |
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| 07:36.15 | jj2 | lo, anyone know how i can make a debian dvd image from the cd iso`s ? |
| 07:36.32 | cafuego | holycow: Yeah... that's why you go crazy on drives and mirror 2 physical arrays against eachother |
| 07:36.40 | magaete_ | how i can edit my $PATH?? |
| 07:36.48 | simonrvn | with a text edtior |
| 07:36.52 | simonrvn | editor even |
| 07:36.55 | holycow | caf *Ooo* nice idea, 2 arrays against each other |
| 07:36.58 | holycow | sweet :) |
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| 07:38.30 | fooz | I should've taken the Adaptec 3200S when I left work |
| 07:38.35 | fooz | that was a sweet sweet card |
| 07:39.23 | Pavel | I am in a situation where I want to install Debian on a computer that has onboard network that the 2.4 kernel boot floppies/CD images don't support. Is there a Debian installation CD image somewhere out there that has everything needed to build a kernel (e.g. ncurses-dev, make-kpkg) without being able to access the network? |
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| 07:40.17 | streuner | Pavel: what NIC? |
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| 07:41.01 | snoke | if i create my own install cd with jigdo can i select pacages what are installed in base system ? |
| 07:41.01 | streuner | ~test |
| 07:41.05 | | Failed |
| 07:41.09 | fooz | heh |
| 07:41.34 | Pavel | streuner: Intel Gigabit of some sort (I am pretty sure that the module name of its driver is either e1000 or eepro1000). |
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| 07:41.47 | bas | how can i play audiocds? i want to play them digitally, cause i dont have an analog line between my cdromplayer and soundcard |
| 07:41.57 | holycow | snoke thats an interesting idea |
| 07:42.07 | streuner | Pavel: those are supported, /msg dpkg d-i backup |
| 07:42.07 | holycow | customizing the base install and on |
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| 07:42.51 | Pavel | streuner: Is that with the experimental installer? |
| 07:42.57 | simonrvn | no |
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| 07:43.22 | streuner | dpkg d-i backup |
| 07:43.24 | dpkg | backup d-i images is probably http://freedesktop.org/~daniel/d-i/ (sarge netinst iso backup); they're even signed!, or see /topic #debian-boot |
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| 07:43.45 | simonrvn | oh, it is. sowwy |
| 07:43.49 | simonrvn | oh no |
| 07:43.54 | snoke | holycow: i would add some packages to base system and chance couple |
| 07:44.11 | simonrvn | look who's back |
| 07:44.12 | holycow | smoke yeah thats interesting i wouldnt mind doing something similar |
| 07:44.22 | Pavel | simonrvn: The problem is that I've tried the new installer. It works great, until it fails. |
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| 07:45.31 | streuner | Our friend 'usuario' join and leave, his old tric :-) |
| 07:45.35 | simonrvn | i tried running d-i, but what do you run if you install sarge and d-i from debootstrap? just base-config? |
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| 07:45.42 | angela_ | hola |
| 07:45.43 | simonrvn | i know ;) |
| 07:45.48 | almulala | de donde es toa esta ente???? |
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| 07:45.50 | angela_ | algun espAÑOL |
| 07:45.51 | Pavel | simonrvn: And I can't figure out why it fails. I am starting suspect hardware problems, but I am in a situation where I can't really say anything until I am 110% sure, because this is the first time the department has allowed this, and I want to make a good impression... |
| 07:45.53 | almulala | angelaaaaaaaa |
| 07:45.56 | almulala | jajajaja |
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| 07:46.06 | gravity | ~debian-es |
| 07:46.09 | | methinks debian-es is debian channel for spanish users |
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| 07:46.14 | gravity | !debian-es |
| 07:46.15 | dpkg | somebody said debian-es was debian channel for spanish users |
| 07:46.19 | g4lt | streuner BTW, usuario is spanish for "user": rima-tde is a netcafe... |
| 07:46.22 | gravity | Fuck. What happened to the good factoid? |
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| 07:46.25 | streuner | gravity: no worries, that our friend ;-) |
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| 07:46.52 | tempo | simonrvn: you guessed correctly ( i think ) |
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| 07:46.56 | streuner | g4lt: well, i thought it is a big spanish ISP |
| 07:47.09 | simonrvn | those are dialup accounts |
| 07:47.12 | gravity | simonrvn: Thank you |
| 07:47.16 | *** mode/#debian [-o simonrvn] by simonrvn |
| 07:47.25 | simonrvn | i suspect from an internet café |
| 07:47.43 | streuner | could be |
| 07:47.58 | gravity | Still, what happened to the good debian-es factoid? |
| 07:48.09 | holycow | pavel, have you made sure the onboard works... suchj as in a test win install maybe? |
| 07:48.09 | gravity | The one that actually told them where the fuck to go |
| 07:48.13 | simonrvn | @+spanish |
| 07:48.14 | tempo | simonrvn: you are right. iptables are active. how do i disable them? inetd? |
| 07:48.15 | ravenbird | spanish users: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda |
| 07:48.35 | gravity | !spanish |
| 07:48.36 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 07:48.38 | gravity | Ah |
| 07:48.54 | simonrvn | tempo: run iptables -F INPUT, iptables -F FORWARD and iptables -F OUTPUT |
| 07:49.12 | simonrvn | that'll flush them out |
| 07:49.44 | g4lt | I think that rima-tde is actually a _casa de putando_ ;) |
| 07:50.02 | Pavel | holycow: I know it works, because I've tried the experimental installer, which has the driver (funnily enough, only in the "normal" and "network" mode; "expert" mode can't find it). It has successfully done DHCP and fetched packages over the network. |
| 07:50.18 | Pavel | holycow: However, it seems to die after a bit. |
| 07:50.31 | holycow | *nod* weird |
| 07:50.46 | simonrvn | rima-tde has plenty of legit users, just that one café has a (bunch of) lusers that comes in and causes trouble |
| 07:50.47 | tempo | simonrvn: the box is located in a remote location. does sudo iptables -F INPUT disables the ssh connection? |
| 07:50.53 | simonrvn | no |
| 07:51.02 | simonrvn | man iptables |
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| 07:51.26 | Pavel | Anyway, I have to go now. Thanks for the tips. I'll try the "beta 1" images. (I was only able to find snapshots --- mabye "beta 1" will work better.) |
| 07:51.30 | simonrvn | @wb jm_ |
| 07:51.33 | ravenbird | Welcome back jm_, oh lonely traveller amongst the TCP/IP packets of chaos. |
| 07:51.48 | tempo | simonrvn: i can't ssh into that machine now:-| |
| 07:51.49 | gravity | Pavel: Use the newest dailies. They're best |
| 07:51.53 | gravity | Pavel: beta1 is out of date |
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| 07:52.01 | gravity | Pavel: beta2 will be out soon too |
| 07:52.16 | tempo | simonrvn: i am locked out |
| 07:52.40 | Pavel | gravity: As I said, they work great until they die around the time they are installing core packages, for no clear reason. |
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| 07:52.59 | gravity | Pavel: Did you file an installation report? |
| 07:53.28 | Pavel | gravity: Maybe it's a hardware problem. I guess I'll have to come crawling back to ask for Windows CD to check... |
| 07:53.44 | gravity | Pavel: You can check that with a knoppix disk too |
| 07:53.54 | gravity | Much preferred, especially in relation to Debian |
| 07:53.57 | Pavel | gravity: Good idea. |
| 07:54.07 | gravity | Pavel: But did you file an installation report? |
| 07:54.11 | Pavel | Thanks. Anyway, I have to leave. I'll try again tomorrow. |
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| 07:54.45 | simonrvn | tempo: is the machine behind a router? can you log into the router, then ssh to the machine you want? |
| 07:54.55 | SexyKen | Okay guys I'm pissed, I've recompiled my kernel with usblp support and cups still doesn't allow me to select a USB printer |
| 07:54.57 | Pavel | gravity: If it's due to a hardware problem, there is no point doing it. Also, it just hard-locks (I believe that's the term?). No output. |
| 07:55.13 | gravity | Pavel: Ok. But it might be a known bug also. |
| 07:55.14 | simonrvn | tempo: don't panic. worst thing you can do |
| 07:55.27 | tempo | simonrvn: :) |
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| 07:55.34 | simonrvn | tempo: sorry about that. /me feels really bad now. try what i said |
| 07:55.37 | Pavel | gravity: Point. |
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| 07:55.59 | SexyKen | What the hell am I supposed to do |
| 07:56.01 | gravity | Pavel: If it's a hardware problem, you can just report that to the install report bug and close it, or ask for it to be closed |
| 07:56.17 | gravity | Pavel: Your call though |
| 07:56.30 | SexyKen | Jan 7 23:47:55 chrome-x kernel: printer.c: v0.11: USB Printer Device Class driver |
| 07:56.30 | SexyKen | Jan 7 23:47:55 chrome-x kernel: printer.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0xB202 |
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| 07:56.36 | debian | SexyKen: like, changing the nick. :) |
| 07:56.41 | SexyKen | Or not |
| 07:56.43 | tempo | simonrvn: the ip was public. not behind a router. it was only behind a modem |
| 07:56.44 | simonrvn | that's a start |
| 07:56.58 | cyberyo | io |
| 07:57.07 | simonrvn | tempo: and you can't... oh yeh. policy of drop |
| 07:57.21 | simonrvn | tempo: could you login before? |
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| 07:57.36 | simonrvn | tempo: try http tunnel |
| 07:57.40 | tempo | simonrvn: yes. untill i wrote the iptables -F INPUT |
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| 07:59.23 | gravity | hehe |
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| 08:00.06 | JaK | hi everybody! |
| 08:00.07 | JaK | :) |
| 08:00.47 | simonrvn | i'm out of ideas |
| 08:02.09 | debian | simonrvn: like? |
| 08:02.13 | JaK | what's the topic? |
| 08:02.18 | simonrvn | debian |
| 08:02.27 | simonrvn | /topic |
| 08:02.42 | JaK | ...in particular? |
| 08:02.53 | simonrvn | debian |
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| 08:03.28 | debian | simonrvn: now you're not only talking to your shadow, you're attempting to communicate with me. :) |
| 08:03.30 | simonrvn | tempo: i hesitate to ask you this, but how far away is your server? |
| 08:03.50 | simonrvn | thanks |
| 08:04.00 | tempo | simonrvn: very very far |
| 08:04.00 | debian | simonrvn: what's with /topic? |
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| 08:04.14 | simonrvn | tempo: :( |
| 08:04.29 | simonrvn | @comfort simonrvn |
| 08:04.31 | ravenbird | There, there, simonrvn. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 08:04.45 | tempo | simonrvn: it's ok. i'll fly there next week. no worries. |
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| 08:05.01 | simonrvn | oh fuck, you have to fly there too? oh man... |
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| 08:07.35 | debian | tempo: what's wrong anyway? |
| 08:08.05 | tempo | debian: locked myself out of my server. iptables and such:) no access. believe me. |
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| 08:08.39 | debian | tempo: I wish you aren't living far away from the server. :) |
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| 08:09.42 | tempo | debian: i am. it's fine. i had to fly to that location anyhow |
| 08:09.44 | tempo | :) |
| 08:10.23 | acklen | anyone here successfully set up relay-ctrl on debian w/ courier-imap? |
| 08:11.27 | debian | tempo: :O |
| 08:12.48 | debian | tempo: oh shit. I finally figured out what's going on |
| 08:13.23 | debian | tempo: I usually leave a backdoor for occasion as such |
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| 08:15.21 | tempo | debian: i usually do the same. i was in the process of setting up that box:) don't worry about it |
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| 08:21.08 | tof_ | do you know if I can save my installed package list, and use it in an other installation? |
| 08:21.27 | JoePenguin | tof_: dpkg --get-selections |
| 08:21.28 | pepepe | When i start wdm in a remote machine it seems to enter some infinite loop; it keeps re-starting the x server. |
| 08:21.58 | tof_ | JoePenguin: thanks! and at re-installation time, what should be used? |
| 08:21.58 | JoePenguin | tof_: that's what everyone say, anyway. i haven't actually tried importing that with --set-selections |
| 08:22.02 | pepepe | always it is asking my login and password |
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| 08:22.11 | tof_ | JoePenguin: :-) thx |
| 08:22.20 | pepepe | anyody ca help me? |
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| 08:27.22 | bar11 | Hi, has anyone here managed to compile link and get it to actually work? |
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| 08:28.01 | bar11 | sorry, I meant LIRC |
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| 08:30.49 | gravity | bar11: Why are you compiling it? |
| 08:30.51 | gravity | Bah |
| 08:31.33 | simonrvn | tempo: ok |
| 08:31.39 | kaplanfx | has there been a change in the way apache handles loading modules |
| 08:32.04 | kaplanfx | I can't find the AddModule stuff in httpd.conf |
| 08:32.23 | kaplanfx | and I can't find any docs about a change either |
| 08:32.28 | simonrvn | kaplanfx: /etc/apache/modules.conf |
| 08:32.35 | simonrvn | kaplanfx: changelog |
| 08:32.59 | kaplanfx | it says not to edit that |
| 08:33.32 | debian | you knwo the first few days of the splitting of httpd.conf and modules.conf is a fubar. :) |
| 08:33.36 | simonrvn | kaplanfx: yup. you use modules-config |
| 08:33.50 | kaplanfx | /usr/sbin/modules-config apache mod_php4 |
| 08:33.52 | simonrvn | debian: quite |
| 08:33.57 | kaplanfx | like that if I want php? |
| 08:34.07 | simonrvn | modules-config apache enable mod_php4 |
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| 08:34.13 | kaplanfx | ok |
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| 08:34.45 | kaplanfx | then I still need to change the httpd.conf so it loads php files right? |
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| 08:35.14 | simonrvn | yeh |
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| 08:37.08 | kaplanfx | nice php is running :) |
| 08:37.13 | kaplanfx | thanks simonrvn |
| 08:37.17 | simonrvn | ok |
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| 08:38.36 | kaplanfx | now to get MySQL working, looks like the package was already compiled --with-mysql=shared,/usr |
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| 08:39.51 | coty | 7join #ayala |
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| 08:41.06 | holycow | whoa |
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| 08:41.20 | holycow | seems ibm really is challenging it self to move desktops to linux |
| 08:41.35 | JoePenguin | holycow: maybe, if that memo isn't a hoax |
| 08:41.43 | holycow | *nod* yeah i'm hoping too |
| 08:41.55 | holycow | i know its a very difficult thing to do organizationally |
| 08:42.07 | holycow | hopefully this will result in some spit and polish in various areas |
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| 08:44.59 | JoePenguin | holycow: I think it's only a matter of time, the way things have been going. |
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| 08:45.14 | holycow | joe, well we are moving to debian for sure |
| 08:45.24 | holycow | but its easy for us, our users are simpletons |
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| 08:45.51 | holycow | ibm has to fulfill a whole larger range of needs |
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| 08:46.53 | jimhend | OT: anyone know if the word chronic is used in a positive context |
| 08:47.03 | debian | simonrvn: you've just banned at least 12 persons :) |
| 08:48.30 | JoePenguin | jimhend: no it is not |
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| 08:48.54 | simonrvn | @tell shua about root |
| 08:48.54 | g4lt | debian you're being too nice. persons, feh! |
| 08:48.55 | holycow | jimhend is chronically happy |
| 08:48.56 | drgreen | hehe |
| 08:49.04 | holycow | jimhend is chronically masturbating |
| 08:49.05 | holycow | *shrug* |
| 08:49.10 | holycow | i donno, depends on context :) |
| 08:49.24 | simonrvn | foo is chronically ill |
| 08:49.29 | g4lt | jimhend after a few puffs of chronic, you get pretty happy ;P |
| 08:49.30 | simonrvn | definitely |
| 08:49.42 | holycow | lol :) |
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| 08:49.48 | debian | g4lt: I mean the server 74.Red-213-96-184.pooles.rima-tde.net he just banned has like 12 person in other channels |
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| 08:50.09 | pepepe | anybody can help me? |
| 08:50.10 | g4lt | debian they're hairless monkeys.... |
| 08:50.16 | pepepe | When i start wdm in a remote machine it seems to enter some infinite loop; it keeps re-starting the x server. |
| 08:50.20 | pepepe | always it is asking my login and password |
| 08:50.22 | debian | g4lt: hahah |
| 08:50.34 | redcliffe | hi - what device is a usb mouse tied to? on my system there is on /dev/input directory, so it?s not on /dev/input/mice |
| 08:50.44 | redcliffe | dmesg says it detects the usb mouse |
| 08:51.00 | peterS | redcliffe: the kernel module 'mousedev' actually implements the /dev/input/mice interface |
| 08:51.09 | peterS | redcliffe: 'hid' is the module which feeds USB mouse data to 'mousedev' |
| 08:51.12 | peterS | redcliffe: so you need both |
| 08:51.13 | holycow | well |
| 08:51.16 | holycow | howdeedoo |
| 08:51.19 | holycow | :) |
| 08:51.25 | redcliffe | oh ok i?ll try taht |
| 08:52.05 | redcliffe | peterS: what is option to build mousedev? i?m on a monolithic kernel |
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| 08:52.42 | peterS | redcliffe: let me see what it's called... doing a make menuconfig now... |
| 08:52.46 | shua | anyone in here using bitchx? |
| 08:52.52 | redcliffe | peterS: ok thanks |
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| 08:53.06 | peterS | redcliffe: Input core support ---> <*> Mouse support |
| 08:53.16 | redcliffe | peterS: ok i think i?ve got that |
| 08:53.20 | redcliffe | let me check |
| 08:53.38 | ezra | hello |
| 08:53.55 | peterS | redcliffe: then under the USB menu, select <*> USB Human Interface Device (full HID) support |
| 08:54.18 | ezra | anyone know why i would get the error "semaphore timeout has expired" when trying to reach a samba share? |
| 08:54.26 | redcliffe | peterS: ok |
| 08:54.41 | peterS | redcliffe: and, under that, [*] HID input layer support |
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| 08:54.56 | peterS | redcliffe: don't worry about [ ] /dev/hiddev raw HID device support |
| 08:55.13 | redcliffe | peterS: all those are set to Y |
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| 08:55.27 | hramrach | ezra: what are you using to reach it? |
| 08:55.29 | peterS | redcliffe: then your USB mouse should work as /dev/input/mice. |
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| 08:55.35 | shua | how do i change channels using bitchx does anyone know?> |
| 08:55.40 | redcliffe | there is no directory though /dev/input |
| 08:55.42 | peterS | redcliffe: assuming of course your USB host controller (UHCI or whatever) is detected |
| 08:55.43 | ezra | hrm: another box on the network? |
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| 08:55.50 | peterS | redcliffe: cd /dev; MAKEDEV input |
| 08:55.53 | ezra | hramrach* |
| 08:55.53 | redcliffe | peterS: should i make one - dmesg says it?s detected |
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| 08:55.59 | redcliffe | peterS: ok trying that now |
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| 08:56.14 | hramrach | ezra: like some gnome frontend, smbmount, ... |
| 08:56.25 | ezra | hramrach: nope just another box on the network |
| 08:56.44 | ezra | i need to be able to access my linux files from the network as i always have, it's never given me problems like this before |
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| 08:56.58 | hramrach | ezra: you always have to use some command or ui to access it |
| 08:57.04 | geertn | I get the error /usr/lib/php4/20020429/gd.so: undefined symbol: gdFreeFontCache after upgrading to php4 newest version in unstable. Is this a known error? |
| 08:57.28 | redcliffe | peterS: ok that works - thanks |
| 08:57.35 | ezra | hramrach: no, i use windows explorer to access my samba shares |
| 08:57.37 | peterS | redcliffe: no problem (: |
| 08:57.55 | ezra | hramrach: you know, samba, the program that let's you access linux shares on a windows network :) |
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| 08:58.07 | ezra | well, SMB shares that is |
| 08:58.20 | hramrach | ezra: and what says about the semaphore? |
| 08:58.35 | ezra | the error i get says "semaphore timeout period expired" |
| 08:58.50 | ezra | i read on google that this means there is a lock on some memory somewhere |
| 08:58.57 | ezra | but i can't figure out how to unlock that memory |
| 08:59.10 | Capkirk | need a tool that will take in some text on stdin and chop it up in nice 72 line paragraph for my signature? |
| 08:59.11 | ezra | i've tried going into /var/run/samba and deleting all the files but no go |
| 08:59.39 | Capkirk | any suggestions? |
| 09:00.06 | hramrach | ezra: try killing the smb server and restart it :) |
| 09:00.21 | ezra | hramrach: yes i have tried that |
| 09:00.34 | ezra | i've even tried reinstalling with "apt-get install --reinstall samba" |
| 09:00.41 | ezra | i've checked my log files, etc |
| 09:00.47 | ezra | i always do these things before i come here now |
| 09:00.59 | ezra | it's second nature from what the people here have taught me to do |
| 09:01.07 | ezra | but no matter what i try nothing works so |
| 09:01.09 | ezra | here i am :) |
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| 09:01.16 | ezra | anyone out there know how to fix this? |
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| 09:01.26 | kaplanfx | is there a debian package for the html docs? |
| 09:01.41 | ezra | html docs for what |
| 09:01.45 | kaplanfx | when I do apt-cache search html doc I get a ton of hits |
| 09:01.49 | hramrach | ezra: yes, but I still do not know where you get that message |
| 09:02.02 | ezra | hramrach: from windows explorer when i try to access the samba share |
| 09:02.07 | kaplanfx | ezra: well for example, the ones in the quanta docs |
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| 09:02.23 | ezra | kaplanfx: sorry i'm not familiar i thought maybe you were talking to me, sorry |
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| 09:02.35 | gravity | kaplanfx: Some of the docs are in -doc packages |
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| 09:02.38 | ezra | not familiar with quanta that is |
| 09:02.46 | ezra | but yea try quanta-doc |
| 09:02.49 | gravity | kaplanfx: Others are included directly with the app's package. quanta should just have its docs included |
| 09:02.52 | kaplanfx | ok |
| 09:02.57 | ChrisW | anyone know of any good debian server places in the UK? |
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| 09:03.18 | ChrisW | ideallly looking for a managed server, but if I have to manage it myself that would be okay |
| 09:03.28 | doudeb | hi all |
| 09:03.42 | bytewalker | linux rools! |
| 09:04.02 | kaplanfx | damn |
| 09:04.06 | kaplanfx | can't find it |
| 09:04.23 | kaplanfx | gravity: I don't think its part of quanta docs |
| 09:04.27 | doudeb | i'd like to change the limits of opened files for a user |
| 09:04.48 | doudeb | i change it in /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 09:05.18 | gravity | kaplanfx: It's in the quanta app |
| 09:05.25 | hramrach | ezra: I do not personally use this setup, so I cannot try. I only access windows shares from other systems. |
| 09:05.26 | gravity | kaplanfx: If you're looking for the docs for quanta |
| 09:05.35 | gravity | Which is what I assume, since you asked for it... |
| 09:05.41 | ezra | hramrach: other windows systems? |
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| 09:05.51 | drgreen | doudeb: did it work? |
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| 09:06.02 | doudeb | with "user hard nofile 4096" |
| 09:06.04 | hramrach | ezra: like GNU/Linux or NetBSD |
| 09:06.12 | doudeb | and it doesn't work |
| 09:06.14 | drgreen | doudeb: you also have to edit a system wide include file |
| 09:06.19 | ezra | hramrach: and unless you have a lock on some memory somewhere you couldn't duplicate the error anyway |
| 09:06.32 | kaplanfx | ezra: is there a package for the html 4 reference? |
| 09:06.33 | drgreen | doudeb; if you are remotely logging in, you might have to restart sshd |
| 09:07.06 | doudeb | i'm remotly logged |
| 09:07.11 | doudeb | ok i look |
| 09:07.12 | doudeb | thx |
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| 09:08.26 | Hal9000_ | hello, i have a problem with mkpasswd. I type 'mkpasswd -H md5 mypassword' and what i get is Available algorithms: |
| 09:08.28 | Hal9000_ | des standard 56 bit DES-based crypt(3) |
| 09:08.28 | Hal9000_ | md5 MD5 |
| 09:08.46 | ezra | kaplanfx: no clue i don't even know what quanta IS :) |
| 09:08.53 | Hal9000_ | and no password... what's wrong? it's supposed to work with -H md5 right? |
| 09:09.17 | kaplanfx | ezra: yeah, that question had nothing to do with quanta |
| 09:09.25 | kaplanfx | but I think I found it :) |
| 09:09.40 | kaplanfx | it may have been called wdg-html-reference |
| 09:09.45 | ezra | oh i thought you were asking for quanta-doc earlier? |
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| 09:10.02 | kaplanfx | yeah I was |
| 09:10.18 | bytewalker | who here has hacked a gibson? |
| 09:10.20 | ezra | oh ok my bad then :) |
| 09:10.26 | ezra | i have bytewalker!!! |
| 09:10.28 | ezra | ;) |
| 09:10.32 | kaplanfx | but its all good, that wdg thing was the right package :) |
| 09:10.35 | Zap-W | why does it say iptables is for 2.4.x kernels , ..is there something better for 2.5 2.6? |
| 09:10.36 | bytewalker | across state lines? you fool! |
| 09:10.44 | ezra | bytewalker: lol |
| 09:10.44 | bytewalker | heh |
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| 09:11.32 | Hal9000_ | how do i generate an md5 password in woody? |
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| 09:13.41 | peterS | Hal9000_: dpkg-reconfigure passwd |
| 09:13.41 | fooz | Zap-W, no, 2.6 has netfilter also |
| 09:13.49 | peterS | Hal9000_: tell it you want MD5 password |
| 09:13.59 | peterS | Hal9000_: then change your password - the new one should be MD5-based. |
| 09:14.13 | Hal9000_ | no i just need to generate one |
| 09:14.15 | Hal9000_ | to put in a config file |
| 09:14.24 | Hal9000_ | i don't want to change the whole system :( |
| 09:14.48 | peterS | Hal9000_: "MD5 password" is too vague. what scheme does it use? I mean, is it the same scheme as the system passwd file, or what? |
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| 09:14.58 | JoePenguin | Hal9000_: maybe you want "mkpasswd" |
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| 09:15.29 | peterS | Hal9000_: it might be something as simple as "echo -n your_password | md5sum". or it could use some sort of seeding. or...who knows. |
| 09:15.36 | Hal9000_ | JoePenguin that's what i tried, doesn't work... |
| 09:15.37 | doudeb | drgreen : i've restarted ssh but nothing change. ulimit -n return 1024 instead of 4096 |
| 09:15.46 | Hal9000_ | i need an md5 encrypted password in my ircd conf file... |
| 09:15.56 | colde89 | cold not print with cups, any idea ?? |
| 09:16.09 | SlayerXP | colde89: can you be less specific? |
| 09:16.17 | redcliffe | what's the best way to load alsa on a debian unstable system with a custom built kernel? |
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| 09:16.22 | redcliffe | compile from source? |
| 09:16.48 | BubbaG | when compiling my kernel i get "arp.c:767: too few arguments to function `ip_route_input'" what have a forgotten ? |
| 09:17.03 | fooz | BubbaG, Which kernel? |
| 09:17.06 | BubbaG | 2.4.21 |
| 09:17.14 | fooz | hmm |
| 09:17.18 | fooz | Try a more recent one |
| 09:17.25 | BubbaG | ehh |
| 09:17.29 | fooz | 2.4.21 is old. |
| 09:17.50 | Hal9000_ | peterS i'll try that one |
| 09:18.09 | kerny | Anyone know if I can install woody to software RAID1 /, /var, and swap? |
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| 09:18.39 | colde89 | SlayerXP :: configured device with apsfilter and have setup printer with ESP network - tool |
| 09:19.02 | fooz | kerny, You can't do it with the normal Debian install discs, AFAIK |
| 09:19.12 | SlayerXP | colde89: hambuger toast for wellington free skylarks for rent. |
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| 09:19.44 | fooz | kerny, maybe with a Knoppix disc and debootstrap |
| 09:19.44 | Hugl3 | how do i select all text in vi editor ? |
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| 09:19.47 | colde89 | SlaxerXP :: ahaa --?? |
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| 09:20.30 | fooz | kerny, use knoppix's network and RAID support to set up your target disk, mount it, then use debootstrap to install debian manually, then set up lilo and everything.. |
| 09:20.33 | colde89 | SlayerXP :: so what do you need ?? |
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| 09:21.13 | red_one | can i set up fstab to allow user 'red_one' to unmount /mnt/flash even though root mounted it? |
| 09:21.44 | ezra | i don't think so red_one |
| 09:21.50 | ezra | you could use sudo though |
| 09:21.52 | ezra | to allow them |
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| 09:23.07 | colde89 | SlayerXP :: ?? |
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| 09:24.24 | rubio | utyityi |
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| 09:25.15 | Dany_Gaso | ola |
| 09:25.17 | Dany_Gaso | a todos |
| 09:25.20 | Dany_Gaso | Hello |
| 09:25.24 | zapw | oi |
| 09:25.50 | colde89 | cold not print with cups, any idea ?? |
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| 09:26.05 | Zap-W | try plates |
| 09:26.11 | g4lt | colde89 most people try to print with printers ;P |
| 09:26.42 | hramrach | red_one: use option users |
| 09:26.44 | colde89 | g4lt : but use cups .. |
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| 09:27.29 | hramrach | red_one: if it is mounted at the place specified in fstab, anyone can umount it |
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| 09:28.32 | hramrach | like /dev/hdc /cdrom auto noauto,nosuid.nodev,users,ro |
| 09:28.42 | Capkirk | anyone know of a tool that will limit width length of a line and wrap it if the line is to long? |
| 09:29.05 | Capkirk | i need it for my signaturescript which should only be 72 charaters long |
| 09:29.35 | red_one | hramrach: ah, excellent, i had 'user' |
| 09:29.40 | red_one | ta muchly. |
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| 09:30.31 | SexyKen | Jan 7 23:47:55 chrome-x kernel: printer.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0xB202 |
| 09:30.42 | red_one | c |
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| 09:30.49 | SexyKen | will someone fucking help me? |
| 09:31.01 | bytewalker | sexyken wtfs that |
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| 09:31.07 | `Butthead | SexyKen: what is the problem? |
| 09:31.30 | SexyKen | Well I have said many times, and I apologize for being annoyed, I know it's not your problem, but I'd appreciate help if applicable...the problem is this: |
| 09:31.53 | Gaso | hello |
| 09:32.04 | SexyKen | I am trying to install my Photosmart 7660 into my Debian Linux Server as a printer for cups, but it doesn't seem to be working. I dont see a USB Printer available in Cups. |
| 09:32.19 | Hal9000_ | peterS: mkpasswd --hash=md5 worked, thought -H md5 didn't... odd |
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| 09:32.38 | bytewalker | my kde desktop is becoming elite looking |
| 09:32.44 | `Butthead | SexyKen: you have to install the extra cups package |
| 09:32.44 | bytewalker | i heart superkaramba |
| 09:33.03 | SexyKen | Butthead: Please expand? |
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| 09:33.06 | Gaso | hello |
| 09:33.11 | `Butthead | SexyKen: on sec |
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| 09:33.26 | Gaso | romero |
| 09:33.32 | Gaso | soy el gasop |
| 09:33.37 | Gaso | gaso gaso gaso gaso |
| 09:33.37 | Gaso | gaso |
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| 09:33.38 | debian | bytewalker: what scheme has you added? |
| 09:33.55 | Brutus | well, that was dumb. |
| 09:33.57 | gravity | ffs |
| 09:33.59 | fooz | heh |
| 09:34.08 | bytewalker | just liquidweather and slickbar for nowz |
| 09:34.10 | `Butthead | SexyKen: I cant find it. I have a USB HP PSC2100 printer, uses the same driver. |
| 09:34.15 | ezra | ffs? |
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| 09:34.31 | ezra | Gaso: you may not want to repeat :) |
| 09:34.41 | SlayerXP | he's from rima-tde.net |
| 09:34.46 | SlayerXP | therefore he's an idiot. |
| 09:34.49 | Romero | gaso tio donde stamos |
| 09:34.56 | Gaso | nuse |
| 09:34.58 | SexyKen | Butthead: What do you mean? |
| 09:34.58 | Gaso | tio tio |
| 09:35.01 | debian | SlayerXP: I wonder what's the problem with tima-tde.net? |
| 09:35.06 | `Butthead | SexyKen: but you have to install the hpoj package. And then find a printer in cups that will work. |
| 09:35.17 | bytewalker | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200205/msg0282 |
| 09:35.17 | Gaso | hello prety |
| 09:35.20 | debian | SlayerXP: a wide-spread retard disease outbreak/ |
| 09:35.22 | debian | ? |
| 09:35.23 | Gaso | ezra hello prety |
| 09:35.23 | `Butthead | SexyKen: www.cups.org |
| 09:35.44 | ezra | Gaso: unless you're homosexual i don't think you'd find me "pretty" |
| 09:35.58 | Gaso | you is boy¿? |
| 09:36.03 | ezra | and if you ARE homosexual, i'm sorry but i am not so you are out of luck |
| 09:36.16 | ezra | yes my name is Ezra is it not? |
| 09:36.19 | bytewalker | holy CRAP, will winex play all my windoze games on linux? |
| 09:36.30 | fooz | bytewalker, no, just ones you get lucky with |
| 09:36.37 | Brutus | Gaso, look, with all due respect, it's nice that you're being friendly but this is simply _not_ #hello :p |
| 09:36.37 | ezra | was Ezra not a hebrew preist from 8 B.C. who had his own book in the bible? |
| 09:36.40 | `Butthead | SexyKen: look there, for support on the printer you have. |
| 09:36.43 | Gaso | im spanish sprry |
| 09:36.49 | Gaso | sorry |
| 09:36.52 | bytewalker | anyone have winex .debs? |
| 09:36.57 | ezra | exactly, so if you have a debian related problem ask gaso, otherwise shut up |
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| 09:37.02 | Gaso | can you repeat¿? |
| 09:37.03 | thomas_a1am | ~test |
| 09:37.04 | | Failed |
| 09:37.15 | ezra | no gaso do not repeat nor flood us, thanks |
| 09:37.21 | SexyKen | Butthead: Probing "/dev/usb/lp*"... Device node not found! |
| 09:37.25 | Gaso | alguien abla spañol¿' |
| 09:37.28 | Gaso | sorry |
| 09:37.44 | udo | Gaso: yes you are and your enghish is pretty pretty bad |
| 09:37.45 | `Butthead | SexyKen: that what you got when you install hpoj? |
| 09:37.53 | SexyKen | Butthead, yes. |
| 09:38.24 | udo | que pasa Gaso este canal es en ingles |
| 09:38.27 | `Butthead | SexyKen: try linking /dev/usb/lpO /dev/lpO |
| 09:38.32 | gravity | !spanish |
| 09:38.49 | gravity | Er... |
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| 09:38.54 | gravity | ~spanish |
| 09:38.56 | | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 09:39.01 | gravity | There we go |
| 09:39.08 | bytewalker | arg do i have to subscribe to d/l winex? |
| 09:39.13 | gravity | Why do they always leave like retards before you respond? |
| 09:39.15 | SexyKen | Butthead: How do I restart it? |
| 09:39.26 | ezra | gravity: murphy's law? :) |
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| 09:39.31 | `Butthead | SexyKen: /etc/init.d/hpoj start |
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| 09:39.40 | ezra | Gaso: Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. |
| 09:39.44 | somiaj | bytewalker: you can get the cvs for no cost, but its not as complete as the offical version, no install shield was my main problem. |
| 09:39.46 | Gaso | hello... who love my¿¿' |
| 09:39.49 | Romero | qien tiene puntos |
| 09:39.49 | `Butthead | SexyKen: you will have to do that everytime your turn the the printer on or off |
| 09:39.55 | ezra | ~spanish |
| 09:39.57 | | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
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| 09:40.21 | Gaso | eo |
| 09:40.52 | lizdeika247 | whats this(after lilo) ?: Name change: '/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/disc' -> '/dev/hdb' |
| 09:41.25 | ezra | Gaso: don't message me, or anyone else without permission |
| 09:41.37 | ezra | i know i for one will not respond to such messages |
| 09:41.43 | ezra | and if you continue i will /ignore you |
| 09:41.48 | SexyKen | Butthead: What the hell? |
| 09:41.49 | SexyKen | Why? |
| 09:42.04 | gravity | Geez... |
| 09:42.18 | ezra | gravity: great isn't it ;) |
| 09:42.22 | `Butthead | SexyKen: honestly I dotn know. At least with mine, the driver dosent watch for the USB halt |
| 09:42.26 | gravity | ezra: The freak show in action |
| 09:42.26 | udo | Gaso Romero Este canal es en ingles y tiene sus normas por favor respeten las normas. |
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| 09:42.44 | gravity | udo: Many thanks |
| 09:42.51 | gravity | Even if all it did was make him leave |
| 09:42.51 | udo | np |
| 09:43.25 | bytewalker | OMG I NEED WINEX but dont have a credit card, someonep lz help |
| 09:43.38 | gravity | bytewalker: CVS pull jackass |
| 09:43.48 | gravity | I'm in a really foul mood right now for some reason :-) |
| 09:43.49 | somiaj | bytewalker: why do you need it? |
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| 09:44.03 | `Butthead | bytewalker: /msg apt winex does that help? |
| 09:44.07 | bytewalker | to play my games |
| 09:44.08 | fooz | bytewalker, talk to your bank, they have credit cards |
| 09:44.09 | xmag | hi |
| 09:44.09 | ezra | somiaj: cuz he will stop breathing :) |
| 09:44.23 | gravity | Or ask mom and dad. One of them should have a credit card |
| 09:44.28 | ezra | oh then you mean you WANT it bytewalker :) |
| 09:44.35 | ezra | mom and dad lmao |
| 09:44.55 | bytewalker | i cant get a credit card because i have a bad credit rating from when i was a minor, heh |
| 09:44.58 | somiaj | ezra: yea I can see that not being able to play windows games would stop one from breathing. |
| 09:44.59 | xmag | is there a way to reset gnome back to its default settings? I purged all packages and reinstalled them and I deleted .gnome in my home, but that didn't help |
| 09:45.10 | gravity | bytewalker: Get a buddy to buy it and pay them back |
| 09:45.11 | ezra | somiaj: especially a linux user ;) |
| 09:45.21 | bytewalker | no, i want it for PHREE!! |
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| 09:45.33 | gravity | bytewalker: CVS pull then |
| 09:45.34 | FrEddie | Hi |
| 09:45.35 | ezra | bytewalker: try a warez chan then, not here :) |
| 09:45.39 | ezra | or cvs pull |
| 09:45.42 | FrEddie | Anyone from Poland ? |
| 09:45.46 | somiaj | bytewalker: goto apt-get.org and look up winex, I belive there is a unoffical source for winex-lite, it may suit your needs. |
| 09:45.51 | SexyKen | Butthead, please help me out bro....it's not working. |
| 09:45.52 | somiaj | !polish |
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| 09:46.02 | ezra | ~polish |
| 09:46.03 | | it has been said that polish is something used to make things shiny, or some language with MUCH too high a consonant-to-vowel ratio. /j #debian.pl, or a really good sausage |
| 09:46.07 | `Butthead | SexyKen: why not? |
| 09:46.08 | SexyKen | butthead I installed that system like you said, but it's not showing a USB printer in the cups list |
| 09:46.15 | bytewalker | omg teh thx somiaj |
| 09:46.24 | `Butthead | SexyKen: it wont. |
| 09:46.25 | FrEddie | I need help with Thomson USB 330 drivers ? |
| 09:46.27 | gravity | Jesus fucking... |
| 09:46.33 | SexyKen | Butthead: Then what do I do? |
| 09:46.36 | gravity | 133t speak in here? What is the world coming to? |
| 09:46.41 | `Butthead | SexyKen: cups dosent support it then, try another printer |
| 09:46.49 | somiaj | bytewalker: note its not officall winex and will only play older games, none of the new ones transgaming is so proud to be able to play in linux. |
| 09:46.53 | ezra | gravity: an end. :) |
| 09:46.56 | SexyKen | Butt: Let me message you a list? |
| 09:46.59 | `Butthead | SexyKen: what printer do you have agian? |
| 09:47.01 | SexyKen | 6 or 7 entries |
| 09:47.05 | gravity | ezra: May as well go join the fedora project then :-) |
| 09:47.08 | SexyKen | It is an HP Photosmart 7660 |
| 09:47.11 | ezra | lol |
| 09:47.18 | ezra | hey if ya can't beat em... |
| 09:47.22 | gravity | Hehe |
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| 09:47.25 | udo | I install a debian in a 300Mb disk on my box to set the disk in a old 486 how can I fix things up in order to boot it in the 486 cos I cannot |
| 09:47.31 | somiaj | ezra: beat them harder? |
| 09:47.33 | rich_ | Hi |
| 09:47.47 | ezra | i'm off to bed i'll try back in here for help when it's daytime (in my country at least) |
| 09:47.54 | ezra | later folks |
| 09:48.31 | rich_ | Is there any good programs for downloading and displaying weather information? One with a nice big map would be preferable |
| 09:48.33 | somiaj | udo: you bios may only be able to boot off the first portion of your hard disk, thus you'll have to put a /boot partition at the begining of it to do so. |
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| 09:48.41 | SexyKen | hpijs is the recommeneded driver, butthead |
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| 09:49.21 | udo | tnx can be a good clue |
| 09:49.25 | udo | tnx can be a good clue somiaj |
| 09:49.46 | bytewalker | hmm, the winex i got off apt-get requires xlibs 4.2.99 but 4.2.15 is what i have (in unstable) |
| 09:49.56 | bytewalker | POOO!:( |
| 09:50.05 | bytewalker | ac search winex |
| 09:50.07 | bytewalker | oops |
| 09:50.07 | Zap-W | what's the program to use for scanning a host for opened ports? |
| 09:50.09 | Zap-W | nmap? |
| 09:50.23 | bytewalker | Zap-W yea |
| 09:50.23 | somiaj | bytewalker: welcome to the world of unoffical deb packages.....your on your own now! |
| 09:50.33 | gravity | Ugh. That's even better, when packagers making x-dependant packages use unreleased versions... |
| 09:50.58 | gravity | I thought Branden sufficiently lart'ed those people. Guess there are still plenty out there. |
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| 09:51.06 | somiaj | gravity: yea tis quite funny....(: |
| 09:51.11 | Zap-W | bytewalker : any special options if i want to do a complete port scan? |
| 09:51.12 | Ammo | hi all |
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| 09:51.41 | bytewalker | hmm, the other unofficial winex seemed to apt-get w/o problem |
| 09:51.43 | bytewalker | yay |
| 09:52.03 | bytewalker | i only pray one day i can fullfill my dream ofp laying starcraft in linux |
| 09:52.07 | m4nic | anyone any suggestions on what to use for remote server monitoring ? |
| 09:52.41 | Zap-W | any clue about what Microsoft Naked CIFS is?? |
| 09:53.56 | cantona | which pachages include libapt-pkg-libc6.2-3-2.so.3.2??? |
| 09:54.23 | uws | cantona: apt? |
| 09:54.28 | uws | apt: /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.3.0 |
| 09:54.30 | | uws: i don't know |
| 09:54.41 | uws | Yeah yeah apt, I didn't talk to you |
| 09:55.03 | cantona | uws i am using debian testing, after upgrade from stable..apt said lost the file |
| 09:55.21 | uws | cantona: I'm running sid to |
| 09:55.22 | somiaj | cantona: try apt-cache show libapt-pkg-libc6 |
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| 09:55.39 | uws | somiaj, cantona: dpkg -S libapt-pkg was my command |
| 09:55.45 | uws | cantona: apt-get install --reinstall apt |
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| 09:55.54 | cantona | somiaj, W: Unable to locate package libapt-pkg-libc6 |
| 09:56.00 | cantona | uws, ok |
| 09:56.04 | Ammo | I install vmware but it doesn't give the permission to execute the vmware from the user (only fron the root) someone have had the same problem? |
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| 09:56.53 | cantona | uws, i have reinstall it..but same result |
| 09:57.12 | cantona | it still find for the libapt-pkg-libc6.2-3-2.so.3.2 but not libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.3.0 |
| 09:57.15 | SlayerXP | Ammo: why not ask vmware for help? as a paying customer, you're entitled to support from them. |
| 09:57.36 | ircdevil | if i start galeon and go to a webpage, the title is set, but it doens change is i change title? this used to work on this version of galeon |
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| 09:57.58 | Ammo | SlayerXP: I use the demo version. |
| 09:58.02 | ramanujan | is there a nice way to merge latex files? I have 4 .tex files for which I want a single .dvi/.pdf output file |
| 09:58.05 | SlayerXP | Ammo: that's supported too. |
| 09:58.28 | somiaj | ramanujan: /join #latex |
| 09:58.29 | SlayerXP | Ammo: and anyone can post to the vmware news groups. |
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| 09:58.55 | izn0g | hi all |
| 09:59.06 | uws | cantona: Try to symlink |
| 09:59.12 | uws | cantona: Which binary wants that library? |
| 09:59.17 | uws | cantona: I don't have it on my sarge box |
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| 09:59.26 | cantona | uws: symlink doesnt work |
| 09:59.34 | Ammo | SlayerXP: ok tnx. |
| 09:59.50 | cantona | uws: i dont know which binary, i get the error when apt-get install stuff |
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| 10:00.06 | uws | which version of apt? (dpkg -l apt) |
| 10:00.14 | uws | cantona: I run 0.5.14 |
| 10:00.28 | uws | cantona: And dpkg 1.10.18 |
| 10:00.35 | cantona | uws me too i did reinstall |
| 10:01.11 | cantona | apt-extracttemplates: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg-libc6.2-3-2.so.3.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 10:01.34 | uws | cantona: Reinstall apt-utils |
| 10:01.53 | uws | cantona: I run v 0.5.14 |
| 10:02.01 | uws | cantona: What versino do you use? |
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| 10:02.30 | cantona | uws: after reinstall apt-utils, it works fine now , thank you! |
| 10:02.47 | izn0g | perhaps one of you has ran into this problem: initrd.img-2.6.0-1-686-smp weights 4325376 , it seems too big for a ram disk at boot time |
| 10:02.47 | uws | cantona: glad to hear |
| 10:03.19 | cantona | uws, any binary in sid make apache2 support php and asp.net? |
| 10:03.21 | izn0g | comes from the unstable feed. it's just for experimenting |
| 10:03.38 | cafuego | cantona: apache2 and php don't like eachother. use apache1.3 |
| 10:04.11 | rich_ | thanks everyone bbl |
| 10:04.31 | cantona | cafuego, i see, i need it because the mono asp.net modules only support apache2 |
| 10:04.43 | cafuego | cantona: wtf would you use asp.net? |
| 10:05.00 | cantona | cafuego, well, for my homework |
| 10:05.01 | simonrvn | eew |
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| 10:05.04 | cafuego | cantona: (you can use the php cgi with aapche2 btw) |
| 10:05.21 | cafuego | and um, shoot your teacher. Really. |
| 10:05.30 | cantona | i want too |
| 10:05.30 | simonrvn | do us all a favour ;) |
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| 10:05.53 | cantona | i prefer php always |
| 10:06.08 | tof_ | How can we know the time a command takes to execute? |
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| 10:06.15 | cafuego | tof_: time command |
| 10:06.25 | shanti | sorry, i can't compile 2.6.0 on sid:\ |
| 10:06.25 | cafuego | tof_: ie: time ls |
| 10:06.28 | tof_ | cafuego: so easy :-) thanks |
| 10:06.31 | Maveric | has anyone else had problems trying to boot the 2.6.0 kernel image? |
| 10:06.31 | uws | cantona: DOn't know |
| 10:06.42 | shanti | this is the error : |
| 10:06.42 | shanti | /bin/sh: line 1: cd: drivers/pci: No such file or directory |
| 10:06.43 | shanti | /bin/sh: line 1: ./gen-devlist: No such file or directory |
| 10:06.47 | ozfrog | helo - trying to upgrade from 2.4.21 to 2.4.24. Use of 'make' +++ or dpkg methods gice compilation of /drivers/ide/pci stuff? Someone care to have a look, |
| 10:07.02 | cafuego | shanti: your source is incomplete |
| 10:07.02 | cantona | uws: nvm :) |
| 10:07.16 | ozfrog | helo - trying to upgrade from 2.4.21 to 2.4.24. Use of 'make' +++ or dpkg methods gice compilation errors of /drivers/ide/pci stuff? Someone care to have a look, |
| 10:07.27 | shanti | cafuego i've downloaded it from kernel.org! |
| 10:07.36 | Maveric | i tried using the apt-get imaged of 2.6.0 and it won't boot |
| 10:07.38 | ozfrog | tried patching too - many failed hunks :( |
| 10:07.42 | Maveric | something about the image being to big |
| 10:07.45 | cafuego | shanti: make sure it extracted correctly |
| 10:07.58 | cafuego | shanti: ... coz it compiles fine here. |
| 10:08.12 | cafuego | Maveric: initrd is evil, shoot the DD who does the kernels. |
| 10:08.13 | shanti | mmm |
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| 10:08.27 | shanti | thanks |
| 10:08.33 | shanti | i try again;) |
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| 10:08.44 | cafuego | shanti: 2.6.0 has rootbugs btw |
| 10:08.45 | BubbaG | would you put the partition boot record on /boot which is /hda1 ? |
| 10:08.50 | cafuego | shanti: use 2.6.1-rc3 |
| 10:08.53 | Maveric | so cafuego how do i get around that? |
| 10:09.05 | cafuego | Maveric: compile yer own kernel |
| 10:09.09 | BubbaG | or on /hda5 which is on root ? |
| 10:09.13 | Maveric | i am in the process of it right now |
| 10:09.14 | Maveric | lol |
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| 10:09.36 | cafuego | Maveric: make sure you don't compile an initrd kernel and make sure you don't enable all the shit you don't need. |
| 10:09.41 | BubbaG | anybody know ? |
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| 10:10.04 | Maveric | cafuego i couldn't get menuconfig to work |
| 10:10.06 | Maveric | so right now |
| 10:10.12 | shanti | oky |
| 10:10.13 | cafuego | Maveric: you need libncurses5-dev |
| 10:10.14 | Maveric | i'm not entired sure wtf i did |
| 10:10.20 | Maveric | hmm |
| 10:10.22 | Maveric | brb |
| 10:10.25 | BubbaG | maveric : goto /usr/src/linux/documentation/Changes and look at minimal configuration |
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| 10:10.34 | BubbaG | and install anything you dont have |
| 10:10.48 | cantona | which packages include "locate"? |
| 10:11.07 | BubbaG | cafuego: does the partition boot record go on /boot ? or /root ? |
| 10:11.17 | BubbaG | or does it not matter? |
| 10:11.19 | Maveric | thank you lord |
| 10:11.21 | Maveric | you guys own |
| 10:11.24 | BubbaG | np |
| 10:11.38 | Maveric | i have some good news tho |
| 10:11.47 | Maveric | today i got my broadcom wifi card working in nix |
| 10:11.55 | Maveric | gotta love ndiswrapper |
| 10:12.30 | nevyn | no no you don't |
| 10:12.31 | nevyn | :) |
| 10:12.32 | cantona | how can I remove the config file by apt or dpkg? |
| 10:12.45 | izn0g | cafuego: whatsoever, the DD's kernel image has a too big initrd, it seems |
| 10:12.55 | Maveric | Optimise kernel by size should i use this option? |
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| 10:13.54 | ircdevil | galeon crashes on my when i paste from the url line. anyone seen this behaviour? |
| 10:14.04 | ircdevil | s/my/me |
| 10:14.06 | jm_ | no |
| 10:14.12 | pro | hey does anyone know how to open a .sit file in linux? its a icons file for osX from what I can tell? |
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| 10:14.30 | izn0g | pro: apt-get install macutils ? |
| 10:14.40 | SlayerXP | pro: sit is the "stuff it" compression system, google will help you. |
| 10:15.22 | pro | thanks guys |
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| 10:18.50 | ozfrog | helo - trying to upgrade from 2.4.21 to 2.4.24. Use of 'make' +++ or dpkg methods gice compilation errors of /drivers/ide/pci stuff? Someone care to have a look, |
| 10:18.52 | ozfrog | tried patching too - many failed hunks :( |
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| 10:19.57 | Topaz | hi ppl |
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| 10:20.47 | colde89 | how to check if cups-deamon is install ?? |
| 10:20.53 | thomas_a1am | Anyone here familiar with the use of dpkg-query, specifically how you use the --showformat option to change the width of the output columns so that athe package names aren't truncated? |
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| 10:21.43 | Hugl3 | colde89: apt-get install cups-daemon ?:))) |
| 10:21.52 | Hugl3 | i think it will say if it is installed ;) |
| 10:21.59 | colde89 | Hug13 :: ok .. |
| 10:22.08 | shanti | colde89 dpkg -l | grep cups |
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| 10:24.11 | DIaN | dpkg --purge @debian |
| 10:24.12 | dpkg | DIaN: I give up, what is it? |
| 10:24.21 | DIaN | dpkg --purge #debian |
| 10:24.22 | dpkg | DIaN: I give up, what is it? |
| 10:24.24 | DIaN | xD |
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| 10:24.31 | DIaN | dpkg --help |
| 10:24.31 | dobby | can someone tell me how to install DRI. I read the dri.sourceforge.org. But i just cannot beleive it. I get always an error while doing make-kpkg modules_image! |
| 10:24.32 | dpkg | wish i knew, DIaN |
| 10:25.35 | thomas_a1am | DIaN: stopit |
| 10:25.35 | ircdevil | grrr galeon is fucked :( |
| 10:25.36 | cafuego | luckily opera isn't |
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| 10:25.36 | colde89 | shanty :: shows me the packages butr dont know if this are all |
| 10:25.36 | cafuego | !cricket DIaN |
| 10:25.36 | DIaN | !cricket DIaN |
| 10:25.36 | DIaN | ?¿ |
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| 10:25.48 | colde89 | Hug13 :: cold not find packages cups-daemon |
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| 10:26.10 | cafuego | ouch |
| 10:26.17 | shanti | colde89 if it show you the packages try to start it |
| 10:26.28 | shanti | if it start you have that |
| 10:26.39 | Maveric | well |
| 10:26.44 | Maveric | here goes the compileing |
| 10:26.51 | shanti | ./etc/init.d/cup[tab] start |
| 10:26.52 | Maveric | i think that either this is still gonna be to big |
| 10:26.54 | Maveric | or |
| 10:26.55 | colde89 | shanti :: how |
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| 10:27.00 | Maveric | its not gonna boot |
| 10:27.01 | Maveric | lol |
| 10:27.06 | cafuego | dpkg -l | grep cups |
| 10:27.11 | dpkg | cafuego: are you smoking crack? |
| 10:27.13 | shanti | i have not my box here now:\ |
| 10:27.30 | cafuego | dpkg: yes |
| 10:27.30 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, cafuego |
| 10:27.40 | Topaz | hm.. how to check for ipv6 support on a debian / linux kernel? ..i didn´t used debian for a long time.. |
| 10:27.51 | cafuego | Topaz: modprobe ipv6 |
| 10:28.00 | Topaz | btw, sry for my fucking englisch ;) |
| 10:28.01 | tof_ | anyone knows how to find wich dns server answer a request? |
| 10:28.12 | Maveric | why do you need ipv6? |
| 10:28.12 | Topaz | cafuego: thangs! |
| 10:28.23 | cafuego | Topaz: gern geschehen |
| 10:28.27 | Topaz | ;) |
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| 10:28.39 | chimaera | i have a new keyboard (logitech cordless deluxe optical..) and can't get some of the keys to work (two special and all f.keys with 'f-lock' disabled). xev is giving me no keyodes for those and the syslog is telling me the following: atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x91 on isa0060/serio0). |
| 10:28.44 | Maveric | man i love my laptop |
| 10:28.46 | cafuego | tof_: nslookup -query=mx domain.com |
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| 10:28.55 | Maveric | but to get everything working nicely |
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| 10:28.59 | Maveric | its gonna take a bit of work |
| 10:29.00 | tof_ | cafuego : you are amazing! |
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| 10:29.31 | cafuego | tof_: indeed |
| 10:29.33 | Maveric | tof_ that was an easy answear :) |
| 10:29.39 | colde89 | shnti : ?? |
| 10:29.42 | Maveric | dig domain.com mx |
| 10:29.46 | Maveric | would have worked |
| 10:29.46 | Maveric | also |
| 10:29.50 | dobby | did somone successfully install DRI here? |
| 10:29.54 | Maveric | :) |
| 10:30.09 | cafuego | dobby: Yes, but then again i don't need dri.sf.net modules |
| 10:30.36 | tvn | dobby: yes ... |
| 10:30.51 | dobby | cafuego: ? without the dri modules? |
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| 10:31.01 | Maveric | dri? |
| 10:31.02 | cafuego | dobby: Matrox card, built-in dri |
| 10:31.02 | Maveric | is what? |
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| 10:31.20 | cafuego | Maveric: Direct Rendering Infrastructure (3D accel gfx) |
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| 10:31.35 | Maveric | ah |
| 10:31.47 | dobby | cafuego: I have a radeon card, i have enabled it in the cernel but i cant play tuxracer! |
| 10:31.57 | Maveric | rofl |
| 10:32.06 | dobby | kernel |
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| 10:32.47 | aisotton | i have a problem with utf-8 over ssh. can anybody help me with that? |
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| 10:33.03 | thomas_a1am | aisotton: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 10:33.23 | aisotton | thomas_a1am: no that's not the problem |
| 10:33.42 | thomas_adam | aisotton: ok |
| 10:34.21 | cafuego | dobby: which radeon? |
| 10:34.23 | aisotton | thomas_adam: i have a sarge box with utf-8 locales. i'd like to do some work over ssh, but no matter what i set the client locale to, the utf-8 characters are always mangled. |
| 10:34.42 | Maveric | has anyone ever seen it where you can bring up your bios config while running linux? |
| 10:34.50 | cafuego | Maveric: yes |
| 10:34.51 | ircdevil | i have now purged and reinstalled galeon. however, galeon still crashes: Gdk-ERROR **: file gdkselection.c: line 331 (gdk_string_to_compound_text): assertion failed whenever i try to paste from the url line ??? |
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| 10:34.56 | thomas_adam | aisotton: yes, ssh is like that :) |
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| 10:34.59 | KarlosII | ehehe |
| 10:34.59 | Maveric | cafuego on a laptop? |
| 10:35.00 | cafuego | Maveric: My dell laptop does that |
| 10:35.03 | Maveric | ah |
| 10:35.04 | Maveric | same here |
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| 10:35.08 | cafuego | pos |
| 10:35.09 | Maveric | 8600 ? |
| 10:35.15 | colde89 | wich packages are nessasary for cups ?? |
| 10:35.18 | cafuego | oooh no, CPtS500 |
| 10:35.21 | Maveric | ah |
| 10:35.28 | aisotton | thomas_adam: but i don't understand why *ssh* should be the problem. |
| 10:35.30 | Maveric | i'm on a i8600 |
| 10:35.33 | KarlosII | http://kanotix.mipooh.net/viewtopic.php?p=405#405 :D <---the funniest picture of a cat I've ever seen |
| 10:35.40 | Maveric | and it does it |
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| 10:35.48 | Maveric | when i do the fn batt key |
| 10:35.51 | Maveric | lol |
| 10:35.57 | Maveric | its kinda funny |
| 10:36.04 | cafuego | colde89: cupsys, cupsys-client |
| 10:36.24 | bytewalker | whats a seriously elite screensaver? |
| 10:36.45 | Maveric | why the fuck is 2.6.0 so big? |
| 10:36.50 | cafuego | bytewalker: xmatrix on a xinerama display |
| 10:36.51 | Hal9000_ | ahahah |
| 10:36.52 | Maveric | when compiled |
| 10:37.03 | cafuego | Maveric: Too many options enabled? |
| 10:37.14 | colde89 | cafuego :: don`t start (/etc/init.d/cupüs restart) |
| 10:37.15 | kyll | i got a network in the ip range 82.x.x.82-82.x.x.86 and i need to calculate the subnet bit number for postfix setup. do anyone know how this is done? |
| 10:37.15 | Krait | cafuego, no, xmatrix on a Canyon display |
| 10:37.16 | Maveric | well i'm recompileing now |
| 10:37.21 | Maveric | but its just annoying |
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| 10:37.30 | Krait | http://www.go-l.com/monitors/grand_canyon/features/ |
| 10:37.30 | Krait | ^ 31337 |
| 10:37.31 | cafuego | colde89: what error does it give you? |
| 10:37.52 | cafuego | Krait: I have that in boxes, my room isn't big enough |
| 10:37.59 | Krait | hehe |
| 10:38.03 | bytewalker | wow that is leet |
| 10:38.08 | Krait | yup |
| 10:38.13 | cafuego | Krait: 4 IPs? Seems a bit small. |
| 10:38.15 | colde89 | cafuego : no such file or directorie |
| 10:38.24 | Krait | 92" is enough |
| 10:38.30 | cafuego | colde89: apt-get install cupsys cupsys-client |
| 10:38.43 | Maveric | lol |
| 10:38.49 | bytewalker | wow only 17k |
| 10:38.53 | Maveric | make sure your root colde89 |
| 10:38.58 | cafuego | kyll: Yopu have 4 IPs or is the x.x.x.82 the network address? |
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| 10:40.03 | colde89 | cafuego :: cups-client and cupsys are already newest version |
| 10:40.24 | colde89 | Maveric :: yep |
| 10:40.26 | kyll | cafuego, no i got 5 ip's. x.x.x.87 is the broadcast and x.x.x.81 is the gateway |
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| 10:41.34 | cafuego | kyll: Okay, that's a /29 segment. 255.255.255.248 |
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| 10:42.12 | Maveric | colde89: /etc/init.d/cups start |
| 10:42.45 | colde89 | Maweric : no such file or directorie |
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| 10:42.49 | kyll | cafuego, thanks. can i ask how u calculated it |
| 10:42.52 | Maveric | hmm |
| 10:43.00 | colde89 | Maweric : directory |
| 10:43.03 | cafuego | kyll: I have a segment of same size, that's what I use :-) |
| 10:43.18 | kyll | cafuego, hehe ok |
| 10:43.36 | cafuego | kyll: But... 8 addresses is 2^3 addresses. 32-3 = 29. -> /29 |
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| 10:44.00 | cafuego | kyll: And /29 is just a different way of saying 255.255.255.248 |
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| 10:44.19 | cafuego | kyll: Tho 256 - 8 = 248 |
| 10:44.22 | ircdevil | ? GnomeUI-ERROR **: file gnome-icon-item.c: line 304 (get_default_font): assertion failed -> galeon crash |
| 10:44.26 | Maveric | so by the looks of this compile |
| 10:44.44 | Maveric | i'm guessing 2.6.0 compiles the modules at the same time as the kernel? |
| 10:44.51 | kyll | cafuego, yea make sense |
| 10:44.53 | cafuego | Maveric: Wel... |
| 10:44.58 | cafuego | Maveric: Yes and no. |
| 10:45.06 | cafuego | Maveric: it goes through the kernel tree twice. |
| 10:45.16 | Maveric | shit |
| 10:45.19 | cafuego | Maveric: First run it compiles all object files, send run it links the modules. |
| 10:45.20 | Maveric | i'm gonna be here awhile |
| 10:45.21 | Maveric | lol |
| 10:45.25 | cafuego | s/send/second/ |
| 10:45.47 | Maveric | but the modules aren't compiled into the kernel |
| 10:45.54 | Maveric | just linked |
| 10:45.55 | Maveric | ? |
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| 10:46.06 | cafuego | Maveric: No, that's why they're modules |
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| 10:46.19 | Maveric | yeah |
| 10:46.28 | Maveric | just makeing sure :) |
| 10:46.35 | Maveric | they didn't change that |
| 10:46.36 | Maveric | lol |
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| 10:46.51 | cafuego | Maveric: you need module-init-tools for the new modules |
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| 10:49.32 | Maveric | k coo |
| 10:49.35 | Maveric | damnit |
| 10:49.38 | Maveric | its still too big |
| 10:50.44 | cafuego | Maveric: how big is it? |
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| 10:51.54 | thomas_adam | MikeH: the penguin did not abuse you. |
| 10:52.09 | MikeH | shhhh |
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| 10:54.52 | Dibbler_ | thomas_adam: oH YES IT DID ;) |
| 10:55.12 | Dibbler_ | thomas_adam: Damn, panto season is over :( |
| 10:55.31 | thomas_adam | Dibbler_: wotcher! |
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| 10:55.42 | Dibbler_ | thomas_adam: Ewwo matey :) |
| 10:55.51 | thomas_adam | Dibbler_: How's things oop North? |
| 10:56.25 | Dibbler_ | Very wet and chilly, so fairly normal then ;) |
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| 10:56.41 | thomas_adam | hehehe |
| 10:56.50 | thomas_adam | It is howling a gale here |
| 10:56.52 | Dibbler_ | thomas_adam: Darn sarf? |
| 10:56.53 | Dibbler_ | lol |
| 10:56.55 | colde89 | cafuego :: /etc/init.d/cupsys starts, but cold not start cups , is this important to print with cups ?? |
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| 10:57.33 | thomas_adam | Dibbler_: brb |
| 10:58.03 | Dibbler_ | np |
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| 10:58.48 | tefsom | hi all |
| 10:59.12 | tefsom | i've a problem installing libgtk1.2-common and apt-get -f install didn't resolve my problem |
| 10:59.17 | tefsom | can anyone help me ^ |
| 10:59.18 | tefsom | ? |
| 10:59.41 | somiaj | tefsom: could you give us some more info, like errors your reciving, conflicts, etc. |
| 11:00.01 | tefsom | somiaj: sure in #flood |
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| 11:00.12 | ircdevil | i think my problem with galeon is due to missing fonts. ideas to solve this are welcome :o) ? |
| 11:00.15 | somiaj | tefsom: ok paste the output there |
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| 11:00.47 | somiaj | ircdevil: sudo apt-get --purge remove galeon...use a better web browser..(: |
| 11:01.00 | thomas_adam | ircdevil: try dillo |
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| 11:01.12 | tefsom | somiaj: any help ? |
| 11:01.20 | ircdevil | somiaj i have grown very fond of galeon. |
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| 11:01.42 | ircdevil | thomas_adam i run woody, and my guess is dillo still needs a lot of work. i keep track of it thou |
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| 11:02.14 | Ketter | don't guess |
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| 11:02.35 | iscsi | 3 month uptime anyone? FYA: http://uk.glbx.net/~andy/pics/misc/dotnet-crazy.png |
| 11:02.47 | colde89 | /etc/init.d/cupsys starts, but cold not start cups , is this important to print with cups ?? |
| 11:03.02 | somiaj | tefsom: check the bts, looks like a bug to me, the ./etc/gtk/* dir its talking about just seems odd, the leeding ./ may be a problem, or try to install it from /, you may want to cd / then try to install it. |
| 11:03.09 | ircdevil | Ketter ok, dillo needs lots of work |
| 11:03.21 | ircdevil | anyway, aint links2 better than dillo? |
| 11:03.25 | Maveric | here i got again with another compile |
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| 11:03.30 | Maveric | s/got/so |
| 11:03.31 | madness | iscsi: ahh yes, that made me laugh when I first saw it |
| 11:03.31 | ircdevil | ~start a browser war |
| 11:03.33 | | konquerer is more userfriendly than mozilla |
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| 11:03.36 | e-dawg | hello all |
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| 11:03.39 | Maveric | so=go |
| 11:03.40 | Maveric | grr |
| 11:04.07 | somiaj | ircdevil: well good luck getting it working |
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| 11:04.21 | ircdevil | but i have messed up gnome and fonts, i would like that solved anyway |
| 11:04.38 | somiaj | ircdevil: gnome uses gtk fonts I belive |
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| 11:04.48 | ircdevil | apt moron somiaj |
| 11:04.49 | | ircdevil: are you using Windows? |
| 11:05.15 | tefsom | somiaj: a message for you in #flood |
| 11:05.30 | lynux | why is it good to have a swap partition if i am not running a server just a laptop. :? |
| 11:05.36 | ircdevil | somiaj i have this other box where gnome and galeon is working fine. i they have the same packages installed with respect to fonts ... |
| 11:05.43 | e-dawg | I've searched newsgroups for my answer but am just not having luck getting an acceptable answer. Does the quota package under debian stable support version 2 quotas? Should I just stay with v1 quotas? |
| 11:06.13 | Maveric | well incase you run out of memory so you don't crash the lappy |
| 11:06.31 | Maveric | or say you want to suspend to disk |
| 11:06.37 | Maveric | then you will need a swap partition |
| 11:06.39 | Maveric | to suspend to |
| 11:06.39 | somiaj | lynux: because its better than having a swap file, just make it small if you have enough memory in your laptop already. |
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| 11:07.03 | lynux | ok i guess i will have one. thanks |
| 11:07.05 | Maveric | i have 512 megs of ram |
| 11:07.14 | Maveric | and i have a 512 meg swap partition |
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| 11:07.16 | The_Vulture | I have 512MB of RAM and a 512MB swap |
| 11:07.20 | Maveric | for when i want to suspend to ram |
| 11:07.21 | The_Vulture | *shrugs* |
| 11:07.27 | Maveric | oops |
| 11:07.28 | Maveric | swap |
| 11:07.31 | Maveric | damnit |
| 11:07.35 | Maveric | i need to goto bed |
| 11:07.38 | Maveric | damn kernel compileing |
| 11:07.42 | lynux | got ya :> |
| 11:08.13 | lynux | i made a perl kernel installer for debian. using the debian way :) |
| 11:08.15 | tof_ | anyone knows how i find the package a file belongs to? |
| 11:08.25 | peterS | tof_: dpkg -S /file/name |
| 11:08.30 | The_Vulture | tof_: apt-file |
| 11:08.31 | thomas_adam | tof_: dpkg -S |
| 11:08.35 | The_Vulture | depends if you have the package installed or not |
| 11:08.40 | tof_ | I do |
| 11:08.46 | The_Vulture | then dpkg -S |
| 11:08.46 | tof_ | thanks everybody! |
| 11:08.53 | thomas_adam | apt-file |
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| 11:11.28 | slashme | Where can I get a debian package for gvim (the gui version of vim)? |
| 11:12.14 | X-S | does anyone have a good idea how to execute a shell-script if i connect my usb-memory-stick to my computer ? |
| 11:12.45 | slashme | Interesting question. I have no idea. Do you use automount? |
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| 11:13.01 | peterS | slashme: look for 'vim-gtk' |
| 11:13.06 | slashme | Thanks! |
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| 11:13.11 | lynux | how cone cfdisk only lets me have 4 partions then says 'unsable' :'( i want to have a swap partition |
| 11:13.16 | tefsom | hi guys i've a problem with apt i paste here three lines of the main error |
| 11:13.20 | tof_ | slashme: try http://www.apt-get.org/ , I have dns problems so I can't certify that is the answer you want, but have a look |
| 11:13.25 | tefsom | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtk1.2-common_1.2.10-16_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 11:13.26 | dpkg | You are moron #4, tefsom |
| 11:13.29 | tefsom | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:13.31 | TravisBarker | i just installed Synaptic yesterday... installed a few packages using it everything seemed fine untill i tried updating various packages and it gave "Sub-process /bin/rpm returned an error code (1)" as it started installing the package... any suggestions? |
| 11:13.31 | slashme | thx, tof. |
| 11:13.34 | peterS | lynux: that's a limitation of the PC partition table format |
| 11:13.39 | tefsom | ok |
| 11:13.47 | peterS | lynux: to get more than 4 partitions, you have to allocate them as "logical", not "primary", partitions |
| 11:14.01 | peterS | lynux: and all logical partitions have to be contiguous |
| 11:14.13 | slashme | brb... |
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| 11:14.21 | lynux | peterS: umm never tried that. i will now. |
| 11:14.51 | TravisBarker | anybody know what Synaptic (apt-get front end) ERROR "Sub-process /bin/rpm returned an error code (1)" means? |
| 11:15.08 | X-S | im currently working on a little project to encrypt filesystems, and on the memory-stick is the gpg-key, now i want to mount at first the menory stick on connect and then the enryptet filesystem |
| 11:15.59 | lynux | peterS: is it ok if the swap is logical :? i think the boot has to be primary right? |
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| 11:16.09 | simonrvn | get a real partition map then :P |
| 11:16.19 | peterS | lynux: anything but the boot partition, it doesn't matter |
| 11:16.19 | Mr_butler | hello |
| 11:16.21 | ircdevil | is there some way i can veryfy the integrity of my fonts installation. i fear that purging certain packages messed up fonts |
| 11:16.31 | peterS | lynux: even the boot partition can be logical, if you put lilo in the MBR. |
| 11:16.45 | lynux | peterS: ok |
| 11:17.21 | simonrvn | /dev/sda1 Apple_partition_map Apple 63 @ 1 ( 31.5k) Partition map |
| 11:17.30 | slashme | Thanks, peterS, vim-gtk was the one. |
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| 11:17.57 | lynux | anyone used sarge apache2? do you just install apache2-common and apache-ssl? |
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| 11:18.38 | simonrvn | lates |
| 11:18.45 | lynux | i can only use vim. i should learn exim. |
| 11:18.53 | ircdevil | peterS you are the mouse master and maybe you have an oppinion if my galeon crash when pasting from the url line with mouse middle button click have anyting to do with mouse protocol? |
| 11:19.03 | tefsom | somiaj: nothing i'm coming crazy |
| 11:19.20 | Maveric | vi is easy |
| 11:19.37 | Maveric | you just need to use a lil guide book at first |
| 11:19.39 | Maveric | then after that |
| 11:19.41 | Maveric | your good to go |
| 11:19.49 | ircdevil | Maveric recommend vimtutor |
| 11:20.07 | lynux | i got that little vim book. that green one. its great ! |
| 11:20.08 | peterS | ircdevil: thanks ... no, it should be unrelated to mouse protocol |
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| 11:20.42 | somiaj | tefsom: its a strange error you get, maybe try to grab that .deb from another mirror. I'm just surprised that there are no bug reports for something like that. |
| 11:20.46 | Maveric | wow |
| 11:20.49 | Maveric | ipv6 |
| 11:20.52 | Maveric | heh |
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| 11:21.19 | ircdevil | peterS ok, thanks, im trying to narrow the window of possiblities |
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| 11:22.52 | lynux | windows is only good for reinstalling :( grr |
| 11:23.06 | Maveric | and good for driver support |
| 11:23.07 | Maveric | lol |
| 11:23.14 | somiaj | lynux: its also good to curse. |
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| 11:23.39 | Topaz | ..windows is a money printer |
| 11:24.30 | Mr_butler | I like debian and debian likes me |
| 11:24.31 | ircdevil | any ideas to resolve this: Gdk-ERROR **: file gdkselection.c: line 331 (gdk_string_to_compound_text) |
| 11:24.33 | lynux | i need to get counter strike working on linux so i don't need this XP gamming computer. |
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| 11:25.20 | Sputnikc | is kde 3.x in testing? (debian.packages is still down..:[ ) |
| 11:25.32 | Topaz | lynux: holarse.net |
| 11:25.51 | ircdevil | apt info kde testing |
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| 11:27.05 | Sputnikc | thx |
| 11:27.39 | peterS | Sputnikc: parts of kde 3.1.4 are in testing. maybe not the whole thing. I don't keep track of KDE |
| 11:27.46 | lynux | topaz: i am a bit weak in my other langs like holarse.net. will have to use google to read that site hehe |
| 11:28.04 | lynux | anyone noticed apache-ssl on sarge is kinda a pain to install. it brakes. :( |
| 11:28.07 | Topaz | ohh.. sorry |
| 11:28.17 | Penix | it "brakes"? |
| 11:28.20 | Maveric | lol |
| 11:28.23 | peterS | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.24 | peterS | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.29 | Maveric | lynux try it from source :) |
| 11:28.54 | lynux | i know i have never try src. i should! |
| 11:29.04 | Maveric | heh |
| 11:29.07 | Sputnikc | peterS: ok, i'm not using kde myself right now, ussually i use enlightenment, but a friend of mine told me to try it.. so i will do so and see what happens.. now that i have this machine available to test it on.. :P |
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| 11:29.19 | Maveric | if you've never done anything from source you need to start |
| 11:29.19 | ruiz | hvgly |
| 11:29.20 | Maveric | lol |
| 11:29.23 | ruiz | ola |
| 11:29.46 | ruiz | oj |
| 11:29.55 | lynux | well not the debian src way. i have done the tar ball fun way. |
| 11:30.01 | ruiz | ola |
| 11:30.05 | Penix | ruiz: stfu |
| 11:30.13 | ruiz | íkdsfg |
| 11:30.29 | Penix | idiot |
| 11:30.54 | lynux | You have just recieved the Amish Computer Virus. Since the Amish don't have computers, it is based on the honor system. So please delete all the files from your computer. |
| 11:30.56 | Maveric | lol |
| 11:31.16 | lynux | nice fok :) |
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| 11:32.05 | Maveric | cpu MHz : 1698.603 |
| 11:32.05 | Maveric | cache size : 1024 KB |
| 11:32.08 | Maveric | mmmmm |
| 11:32.08 | jelly | lynux: that would never propagate, patch it with something like "Please send this message to all the addresses in your addressbook, and then delete..." |
| 11:32.14 | Maveric | centrino |
| 11:32.43 | lynux | jelly: ya haha |
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| 11:33.52 | Maveric | god damnit |
| 11:34.00 | Maveric | i can't get the 2.6 image size down |
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| 11:34.15 | lynux | you bz it? |
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| 11:35.29 | Maveric | yes |
| 11:35.36 | Maveric | but i'm stuck at 1.2 meg |
| 11:35.43 | Maveric | pissing me off |
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| 11:36.16 | lynux | i have not done the 2.6 yet. i think i will do it now :0 |
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| 11:36.32 | jelly | You could put some more stuff in modules |
| 11:37.02 | lynux | think of the root-kits wil mods :0 |
| 11:37.06 | lynux | with |
| 11:37.23 | jelly | ? |
| 11:37.54 | lynux | mod kernels have the problem that the root-kits can use it for the bad. |
| 11:37.54 | jelly | Oh, you mean better to make no module support at all |
| 11:38.01 | lynux | ya :) |
| 11:38.31 | lynux | i know too :( ssh version 1 |
| 11:38.32 | jelly | But for a notebook, I guess rootkits are not so big a concern |
| 11:39.00 | jelly | its not like a server 24/7 online |
| 11:39.23 | jelly | for a kiddie to find it |
| 11:39.25 | lynux | well my server. was. i haven't been hacked on my notebook. |
| 11:39.26 | lynux | ehhe |
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| 11:39.51 | lynux | i should say yet. :/ |
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| 11:41.13 | lynux | just got a Prism 2.5 wireless card :) 200mW |
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| 11:42.57 | lynux | i like the way 2.6 kernel is setup. the menus. |
| 11:43.13 | Hal9000_ | i didn't see the menus yet |
| 11:43.18 | ferrol-wrk | Not a debian relate prblem but.. Can anyone explain th ejumper sat the back of SCSI disk labels ID 3-ID 0 |
| 11:43.21 | Hal9000_ | will wait till 2.6 gets stable |
| 11:43.31 | ferrol-wrk | setttings |
| 11:43.43 | lynux | wheres the fun in that. hehe newest all the way! |
| 11:43.51 | philou | Hal9000_ for me it is stable since last july :) |
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| 11:44.14 | Hal9000_ | yeh, i don't have linux on my pcs, only on my server |
| 11:44.22 | philou | Hal9000_ might depend on which hardware you have though |
| 11:44.24 | Hal9000_ | i dont' want to screw too much :P |
| 11:44.43 | philou | Hal9000_ it's been damn rock solid for me |
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| 11:44.57 | tefsom | pls can help me woth this ? |
| 11:44.58 | tefsom | unable to make backup symlink for `./etc/gtk/gtkrc.vi_VN.viscii111': No such file or directory |
| 11:45.00 | lynux | thats why you don't set the lilo boot timer to 0 heeh |
| 11:45.02 | Hal9000_ | does it break some software? or is everything expected to work |
| 11:45.12 | Hal9000_ | like iptables, firewall scripts etc |
| 11:45.12 | tefsom | problems installing everything with apt |
| 11:45.19 | tefsom | cause of libgtk1.2-common |
| 11:45.24 | tefsom | pls help me |
| 11:45.27 | tefsom | tnx |
| 11:45.35 | Sputnikc | apt info kde unstable |
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| 11:46.00 | philou | Hal9000_ as far as i know everything works pretty well |
| 11:46.15 | philou | unless you want exotic feature like software suspend,etc... |
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| 11:46.53 | Hal9000_ | hum... theres no grescurity patch for 2.6.x yet, right? |
| 11:46.54 | toni | hi guys, do you know what is the font used for the debian logo? thanks |
| 11:46.55 | philou | Hal9000_ i'm running 2.6.0-test5-mm2 and it sure rocks |
| 11:47.09 | philou | Hal9000_ dunno never felt the need for that |
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| 11:47.28 | Hal9000_ | ok one more question... is the .config file of 2.4 compatible to 2.6? |
| 11:47.28 | philou | Hal9000_ it might, or not, dont know |
| 11:47.30 | ircdevil | aint Gtk+ 1.2.9 supplied by libgtk2.0-dev ? |
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| 11:47.37 | Hal9000_ | can i move it over? or do i have to configure from scratch |
| 11:47.45 | philou | Hal9000_ no i don't think so |
| 11:47.54 | Hal9000_ | ok... |
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| 11:48.28 | philou | best is to go through all menu/option once or two and then make yourself a template like .config |
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| 11:48.40 | philou | lots of things have changed |
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| 11:50.45 | philou | Hal9000_ really , give 2.6 a try if you have standard hardware you'll find it really cool |
| 11:50.50 | philou | gotta go |
| 11:50.55 | philou | Hal9000_ bye |
| 11:51.53 | Sputnikc | 2.6.0 seems to work fine with me i got a i865 mobo and i find the layout in menuconfig better organized.. |
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| 11:52.30 | zu22 | philou: what packages do i need to install stable 2.6 kernel source in sid? and where does it install the source for me to compile? |
| 11:52.38 | filp | I'd agree, 2.6.0 is a great step forward |
| 11:52.44 | Ravn | anyone up for xfrisk ? |
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| 11:52.53 | zu22 | sputnikc: i only have p3/500 chip |
| 11:52.58 | savanna | hi |
| 11:53.03 | zu22 | filp: why is 2.6 so better? |
| 11:53.10 | savanna | i need some serious help....how can i upgrade my kernel? |
| 11:53.12 | savanna | please. =) |
| 11:53.33 | savanna | i upgraded my kde but with dist-upgrade it must have upgraded a driver somehow and now it won't boot up. hdb is not working. |
| 11:53.41 | savanna | so how do i do it? |
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| 11:53.48 | filp | zu22: better support for my laptop, better menuconfig, nicer compilation, fun new things to play with |
| 11:53.50 | Sputnikc | 2.6.0 seems faster with only the correct hardware inserted.. but i didn't really use it for long time so far.. |
| 11:54.27 | savanna | okies brb |
| 11:54.31 | Sputnikc | but the only pain in the ass was geting debian installer to work with my mobo, i had to put my personal kernel on the boot floppy to do so.. |
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| 11:54.49 | Sputnikc | right now i'm gonna install sid with 2.6.0 and see what happens.. |
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| 11:55.19 | zu22 | filp: i see, when i compile new kernel how do i know if tell something to load in kernel or to be loaded as module? and after finish compile what should i do with my old /etc/modules directory? if new kernel has problem i still want be able select old kernel in lilo |
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| 11:55.59 | zu22 | sputnikc: ack, what is this new debian-installer? i thouught that is for installing the debian distro not the new kernel |
| 11:56.31 | Sputnikc | yes it is.. but my hdd controller wasn't in the default debian installer kernel |
| 11:57.03 | zu22 | sputnikc: ok, the initrd is only to be used with kernel image, if compile source do not need it right? |
| 11:57.13 | Sputnikc | zu22: modules or not thats the question.. i have 2 soundcards in the pc.. the only thing i compile as modules are those soundcards.. |
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| 11:57.46 | zu22 | Sputnikc: wow i see, and how do i make sure if problem with new kernel i can still boot using old kernel? |
| 11:57.57 | ercin | hehe i break kcontrol |
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| 11:58.06 | ercin | how can i get the old modules ? |
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| 11:58.18 | Sputnikc | zu22: just keep your old kernel on the disk and add your new kernel in your bootloader |
| 11:58.23 | zu22 | sputnikc: may i ask why u have 2 soundcards in 1 machine? i thought u only can use 1 soundcard at a time? |
| 11:58.28 | zu22 | sputnikc: oh ok |
| 11:58.51 | Sputnikc | zu22: one is connected to the tv (tv-out) and one on the pc's speakers |
| 11:58.58 | zu22 | ohhh |
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| 11:59.24 | Sputnikc | this way i don't have to change cables all the time |
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| 12:00.35 | Skarmeth | does squid suport acl src with hostnames on a text file? |
| 12:00.40 | marinos | Sputnikc: dont you have line in in your sound card ? |
| 12:01.12 | Sputnikc | marinos: off course, but i need the line out for both |
| 12:01.51 | Sputnikc | one soundcard to my desktop speakers, and one to the amp of the TV |
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| 12:02.18 | shadedancer | My gnome-panel stands still since I updated 90 minutes ago, someone here discovered the same behaviour ? |
| 12:02.18 | marinos | ok |
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| 12:02.33 | gordonjcp | zu22: You can use as many soundcards as you can physically cram in under Linux |
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| 12:03.07 | peterS | gordonjcp: barring hardware conflicts, like too many ISA soundcards using all the IRQ choices they offer |
| 12:04.01 | gordonjcp | peterS: well, yes |
| 12:04.06 | zu22 | gordonjcp: hi, ah cool |
| 12:04.06 | gordonjcp | but that's true of any card |
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| 12:04.29 | peterS | well, any ISA card. PCI hardware has no problem with interrupt sharing, assuming the drivers are properly written |
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| 12:07.10 | fcrick | anyone understand how value subscripts work in tcpdump filters? |
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| 12:07.40 | CryoGenFX | need help. my /etc/hotplug/usb.usermap is overwritten with garbage as soon as I connect the digital camera. I'm trying to set up usb permissions to unload the camera as normal user |
| 12:07.53 | fcrick | like that does the thing in the brackets mean in "ip[0] & 0.f != 5"? |
| 12:08.01 | fcrick | (oops 0xf) |
| 12:08.41 | zu22 | frick: array element 1? |
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| 12:09.38 | fcrick | zu22: yes but from where...its supposed to refer to an individual packet....they also use suff like ip[6:2] |
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| 12:11.06 | fcrick | ooh wait i think i'm getting it here... |
| 12:11.54 | fcrick | i guess is header[offset:length]...gotta get my TCP/IP book out think... |
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| 12:13.25 | CryoGenFX | ack, nevermind. solved it. (patience is a virtue... :/ |
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| 12:13.43 | offby1 | Can someone explain this message from lilo: `Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure. Name change: '/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc' -> '/dev/sda' Fatal: VolumeID read error: sector 0 of /dev/sda not readable ' |
| 12:14.07 | fcrick | any idea where they list the macros? like ip[12:4] is i guess the same as ip.addr, but where do they define that? |
| 12:14.08 | peterS | offby1: means the kernel has devfs enabled, but you apparently don't have it mounted on /dev |
| 12:14.44 | offby1 | peterS: thanks ... I don't understand devfs; I just did `apt-get upgrade' (on testing) and this happened. What do I do to work around it? |
| 12:15.18 | peterS | offby1: well, my preferred solution is to use a kernel that doesn't support devfs. it's just not worth the strange quirks like the one you just saw |
| 12:15.28 | peterS | offby1: but the officially correct solution is probably to *use* devfs |
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| 12:15.45 | peterS | offby1: so: add an entry to /etc/fstab: none /dev devfs defaults 0 0 |
| 12:15.51 | peterS | offby1: and 'apt-get install devfsd' |
| 12:16.04 | offby1 | will that *enable* devfs, or *disable* it? |
| 12:16.06 | JoePenguin | isn't devfs deprecated in 2.6 now? |
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| 12:16.14 | offby1 | (I realize that's a dumb question, but then ...) |
| 12:16.27 | a1fa | heh |
| 12:16.30 | a1fa | ~slap a1fa-to-EU |
| 12:16.34 | | ACTION slaps a1fa-to-EU, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 12:16.34 | DelEat | offby1: will install the daemon to your computer |
| 12:16.37 | slashme | What is the best way to upgrade my system to libc6 2.3.1 and libreadline4 4.3? |
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| 12:20.07 | rilof | If I want my files being created with -rwxr-xr-x by default, what umask shall I set? |
| 12:20.21 | peterS | rilof: there is no umask that will produce that, by itself |
| 12:20.26 | slashme | rilof 755 |
| 12:20.33 | peterS | rilof: umask 022 will do it, sort of... |
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| 12:20.41 | slashme | oops... |
| 12:20.51 | peterS | rilof: but that's only if your applications create files with the execute bit set, by default |
| 12:20.56 | rilof | slashme and peter no 'cos it's filtered by 0666 |
| 12:20.57 | peterS | rilof: most do not. some, like compilers, do. |
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| 12:21.29 | peterS | rilof: heh - I know. that's why I said it wouldn't work for most applications. because *they* are the ones that "filter" the umask |
| 12:22.04 | peterS | rilof: get the source for an application some time, and note the open() call for how it writes things. if it's a compiler or something, it will specify 0777. if not, usually it will specify 0666. |
| 12:22.07 | rilof | peterS I think u're right, that's what I thought, I just asked to make it sure... |
| 12:22.22 | rilof | peterS thanks!!! |
| 12:22.53 | slashme | so, what is the best way to upgrade your libc? |
| 12:23.02 | cies|work | can someone familiar with cron tell me what i'm doing here?: crontab: "30 4 1,4 * * root /usr/backup"... thanks! |
| 12:23.09 | slashme | Will a newer libc break apps that need an older one? |
| 12:23.14 | peterS | slashme: switch your /etc/apt/sources.list to 'testing' instead of 'stable', then do 'apt-get update; apt-get install libc6' |
| 12:23.21 | peterS | slashme: then you can switch sources.list back, if you want |
| 12:23.28 | Skarmeth | CryoGenFX this is a problem, I tryed to allow normal users to use gtkam to access the cameras fotos, but without sucess |
| 12:23.31 | peterS | slashme: yes, newer libc *will* break a few apps |
| 12:23.45 | slashme | OK, thanks. |
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| 12:23.47 | peterS | slashme: specifically apps that use 'extern int errno;' explicitly, which you're not supposed to do |
| 12:23.55 | CryoGenFX | I just figured out how |
| 12:23.59 | CryoGenFX | I hope ;) |
| 12:24.08 | peterS | slashme: the fix is simple: change 'extern int errno;' in your source to '#include <errno.h>' |
| 12:24.46 | slashme | So, do I do the upgrade, and wait to see if anything breaks, and then recompile?? |
| 12:25.11 | peterS | slashme: I suppose. I don't remember which debian woody packages actually break. qmail, which isn't in debian, is one well-known example |
| 12:25.11 | slashme | s/recompile/edis source and recompile the app/ |
| 12:25.15 | peterS | yep |
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| 12:25.35 | CryoGenFX | I have a HP 850, with docking, so now I have it set up so that when I press the connect button on the dock, digikam (KDE app) automagically loads, and I can view the images |
| 12:26.16 | SlayerXP | what is it about the phrase "automagically" that makes me think about sharpening an axe? |
| 12:26.37 | peterS | SlayerXP: probably the "g" |
| 12:26.45 | jm_ | SlayerXP: it's incompatable with you ;P |
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| 12:26.55 | SlayerXP | possibly, on both counts. |
| 12:27.10 | CryoGenFX | sorry dude, I just couldn't think of the proper word. we're not all affluent english speakers you know ;) |
| 12:27.39 | CryoGenFX | automatically, that's it. sorry again :) |
| 12:27.44 | SlayerXP | CryoGenFX: "fluent" I think you mean. "affluent" means "well off". |
| 12:27.56 | CryoGenFX | I rest my case :D |
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| 12:28.34 | oskie | anyone familiar with this SMTP error: 2h 173 1AeXfQ-0005TX-4V <oskar@tbv.se> |
| 12:28.34 | oskie | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.36 | oskie | eh |
| 12:28.38 | peterS | that reminds me of an exchange on another channel a few days ago.. "how to I say 'I don't speak German' in German?" answer: it doesn't matter - however you say it will get the point across |
| 12:28.43 | oskie | damn |
| 12:29.22 | Scognito | why i get this message whle modprobing ns558? |
| 12:29.29 | oskie | "550 Can't verify your host name" |
| 12:29.32 | Scognito | /lib/modules/2.4.23/kernel/drivers/char/joystick/ns558.o: init_module: No such device |
| 12:29.45 | Scognito | i've modprobed gameport and jopydev correctly |
| 12:29.49 | SlayerXP | oskie: the server you're sending to can't verify your hostname |
| 12:29.53 | Scognito | so i cannot use my joypad |
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| 12:30.04 | peterS | Scognito: well, it can't find your device. is it the sort of device where you have to specify an IO port? |
| 12:30.34 | Scognito | i have a cmi8738 audio card |
| 12:30.43 | peterS | Scognito: hmm, looks like it's ISAPNP... |
| 12:30.45 | Scognito | i enabled joystic support for my card |
| 12:30.45 | oskie | SlayerXP: yeah, the sending mail server has its hostname configured incorrectly ... but isn't the receiving (the one that sends the 550 error) broken too? |
| 12:31.04 | Scognito | peterS, how can i verify that? |
| 12:31.05 | peterS | Scognito: you have the audio driver running already? |
| 12:31.15 | Scognito | peterS, yes |
| 12:31.20 | holycow | http://www.bitesizeinc.net/jWindows/ <-- heh, neat, javascript based windows in a browser |
| 12:31.31 | zu22 | holycow: haha |
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| 12:32.20 | mavx | Anybody here use a 2.6 kernel with intel8x0 alsa compiled in? |
| 12:32.23 | peterS | holycow: dude, that is sick |
| 12:32.50 | Sebulba02 | some people have way too much time |
| 12:32.52 | peterS | Scognito: one way to check for your joystick port is: install 'isapnptools' and run 'pnpdump' |
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| 12:34.01 | peterS | Scognito: it should find one of the following sub-devices: @P@0001 @P@2001 CTL7001 CTL7002 CSC0010 CSC0110 CSC0b35 PNPb02f |
| 12:34.10 | Scognito | peterS i have a long output and at the and i have: # No boards found |
| 12:34.14 | holycow | peter ya :) |
| 12:34.23 | holycow | zu22, hehe *nod* :) |
| 12:34.30 | mavx | or how about a 2.6 kernel with alsa built in, but experiences scratchy noise playback whenever there is something else going on other than just sound playback |
| 12:34.34 | hackeron | can anyone tell me how to make use of the fonts in /usr/share/fonts? seems /etc/init.d/xfs doesn't look at them and they don't appear in programs? anyone has any suggestion how to properly make use of them? |
| 12:34.41 | peterS | Scognito: well. "no boards found" explains why your joystick module won't load, anyway |
| 12:35.07 | Scognito | so maybe i have no (e)isa support in my kernel? |
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| 12:35.31 | peterS | Scognito: you say you have a CMI8738 ... but that's a PCI card, not an ISA card. |
| 12:35.37 | pro | anyone have the icon2png program for me? the only site on the net that has it is down |
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| 12:35.57 | Scognito | peterS, it is onboard |
| 12:36.16 | peterS | Scognito: so if the joystick port is related to the sound card, I would expect it to be PCI-based as well |
| 12:36.32 | Scognito | you're right |
| 12:36.33 | Scognito | :) |
| 12:36.47 | Scognito | so it's a pci audiocard btw |
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| 12:37.16 | Scognito | i have joystick enabled in the kerenl, under the cmi8738 card |
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| 12:37.51 | Skarmeth | where I can find the TV card compatibiles with linux? |
| 12:38.13 | DelEat | Skarmeth: probably google |
| 12:38.22 | Scognito | so is there a way to run my joystick with my pci audio card? |
| 12:38.26 | Scognito | do i need isa? |
| 12:38.35 | mavx | Anybody here know how to work around such problems? |
| 12:38.41 | Skarmeth | if the card is pci, you dont need isa |
| 12:38.53 | DelEat | what's wrong with dpkg? |
| 12:38.54 | peterS | Scognito: looks like the joystick thing doesn't require the ns558 driver |
| 12:39.11 | Skarmeth | mavx what problem/ |
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| 12:39.32 | Scognito | noticed that |
| 12:40.00 | mavx | sound playback is scratchy if there is something else going on while playback (e.g. running other applications) |
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| 12:40.12 | mavx | 2.6.0 kernel with alsa built in (intel8x0) |
| 12:40.30 | hoxu|uni | mavx, pre-emptivity? |
| 12:40.32 | peterS | Scognito: whether or not it *works*, I don't know. but it looks to be independent of any other specific driver (other than the generic 'joystick' driver) |
| 12:40.42 | pisi | mavx: possibly you haeve X or something similar running with wrong priority |
| 12:40.42 | mavx | yes |
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| 12:41.04 | Scognito | peterS, the joypad works in windows btw |
| 12:41.09 | mavx | I believe it is still -10 |
| 12:41.25 | pisi | mavx: remove that |
| 12:41.53 | mavx | how, pray tell? |
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| 12:43.23 | peterS | Scognito: there are *two* things you need for a gamepad |
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| 12:43.35 | knoppix_ | hello i have a gib problem, i enabled console framebuffer, now i just see nothing, how can i unload the module? |
| 12:43.36 | peterS | Scognito: one is support for the *port* itself - this is what I think 'cmpci' already provides |
| 12:43.46 | peterS | Scognito: the other is support for your specific type of joystick, plugged into the port |
| 12:43.50 | mavx | hoxu, is there a problem with pre-emptivity in this case? |
| 12:44.22 | Scognito | it's like a normal joypad like the supernintendo one |
| 12:44.39 | hoxu|uni | mavx, I think you should follow the advice you got |
| 12:44.59 | peterS | Scognito: you can try the 'analog' driver - that's for classic PC joysticks |
| 12:45.01 | hoxu|uni | mavx, I used to have such problem in 2.4 but pre-emptivity fixed it in 2.6 :P |
| 12:45.04 | mavx | I am working on it, just wondered where you were going with it ;) |
| 12:45.10 | mavx | oh |
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| 12:45.33 | knoppix_ | hello i have a gib problem, i enabled console framebuffer, now i just see nothing, how can i unload the module? |
| 12:45.55 | Scognito | i can modprobe it correctly |
| 12:46.01 | peterS | !sarge pool 2 |
| 12:46.32 | knoppix_ | please help me i cant acces my debian! |
| 12:46.41 | Scognito | but when i type "jstest /dev/js0" i see "no such device" |
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| 12:47.03 | Scognito | i made the device correctly |
| 12:47.10 | peterS | Scognito: does 'dmesg' say anything interesting when you modprobe 'analog' - such as whether or not it finds a joystick there? |
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| 12:47.21 | Scognito | cr--r--r-- 1 root root 13, 0 2004-01-08 01:47 /dev/js0 |
| 12:47.40 | Scognito | i load the modules after boot |
| 12:47.47 | offby1 | whoever just helped me with devfs: thanks, things are working now (despite some pain getting there) |
| 12:47.52 | peterS | Scognito: the existence of /dev/js0 says nothing about whether or not there is anything in the kernel supporting it. 'no such device' means there isn't |
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| 12:47.56 | jeanmi | Hi |
| 12:47.59 | jm_ | pro: disable that, /help showaway |
| 12:48.01 | hoxu|uni | ~tell pro about away |
| 12:48.17 | warzo | hello, i need to install in my old laptop a debian, but my i havent cd, i only have a flloppy and a lan card, what i need to do? |
| 12:48.28 | jeanmi | I plan on buying an external USB hard drive. I wonder how I could know whether or not it will be supported by linux. |
| 12:48.56 | Scognito | peterS, i had no error |
| 12:49.13 | Scognito | i mean, the module loads with no error |
| 12:49.16 | jm_ | jeanmi: any USB mass storage compliant device will do |
| 12:49.35 | jeanmi | jm_ how can I know if the one I want to buy is mass storage compliant ? |
| 12:50.02 | jm_ | jeanmi: read the specs - if it doesn't require any special drivers for windows, it should do |
| 12:50.03 | peterS | Scognito: does it print any message in the kernel buffer? 'dmesg' should show |
| 12:50.11 | Scognito | no |
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| 12:51.11 | peterS | Scognito: here's something you can try. specify your gamepad type when loading 'analog', as follows: |
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| 12:51.13 | jm_ | jeanmi: i.e. plug and play or whatever they'll call it - also make sure the USB chipset your motherboard uses is supported |
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| 12:52.42 | peterS | Scognito: modprobe analog js=xxx |
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| 12:53.12 | peterS | Scognito: where 'xxx' is from the following list: none auto 2btn y-joy j-pad fcs chf fullchf gamepad gamepad8 |
| 12:54.28 | Scognito | tried with auto and gamepad |
| 12:54.37 | Scognito | nothing in dmesg |
| 12:54.50 | Scognito | nothing to do with jstes |
| 12:54.50 | Scognito | t |
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| 12:55.25 | pepelu | hola |
| 12:55.47 | pepelu | hay alguien???? |
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| 12:56.04 | peterS | Scognito: well, I don't know what those different types are. your guess is as good as mine. I can't tell, from reading the source, what those devices are actually like |
| 12:56.38 | pepelu | where are you from, peters? |
| 12:56.58 | peterS | pepelu: central US |
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| 12:57.19 | pepelu | ok |
| 12:57.25 | JimButton | peterS: plain states? :) |
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| 12:57.34 | pepelu | what is the name of your city? |
| 12:57.44 | peterS | JimButton,pepelu: Wichita |
| 12:57.57 | JimButton | peterS: oh, that is in kansas, right? |
| 12:58.05 | peterS | JimButton: yep |
| 12:58.09 | JimButton | well, my uncle lives in lincoln, nebraska |
| 12:58.11 | pepelu | iam from spain |
| 12:58.16 | JimButton | somewhat boring down there :) |
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| 12:58.38 | pepelu | do you know where is spain? |
| 12:58.40 | pepelu | XD |
| 12:58.42 | peterS | JimButton: for some people. I don't need big-city life, particularly. Wichita is 400000 people, which is enough for me |
| 12:58.47 | jm_ | iberian penincula |
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| 12:58.50 | peterS | pepelu: sure. just north of Morocco (: |
| 12:58.56 | pepelu | jajajajajaja |
| 12:58.58 | pepelu | ok |
| 12:59.00 | JimButton | peterS: a friend of mine just got hired by the university there |
| 12:59.11 | Scognito | peterS, ok thank you anyway |
| 12:59.15 | pepelu | what university? |
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| 12:59.30 | JimButton | pepelu: the university in wichita, whatever its name is |
| 12:59.36 | pepelu | ok |
| 12:59.38 | JimButton | i forgot |
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| 12:59.46 | peterS | JimButton: Wichita State University, probably. that's where I am right now actually |
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| 13:00.01 | pepelu | and, what do you think about g.bush??? |
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| 13:00.10 | JimButton | pepelu: that is off-topic here... |
| 13:00.19 | JimButton | pepelu: and bound to start a flamewar anyway |
| 13:00.19 | peterS | yes, quite |
| 13:00.30 | pepelu | ok |
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| 13:00.42 | pepelu | sorry |
| 13:00.44 | Treason | oi whats the max recommended fat32 size for compatibility with win98se anyone know? |
| 13:01.01 | Treason | 90 gig seems to go wierd |
| 13:01.09 | pepelu | i would like to go to us |
| 13:01.14 | peterS | Treason: win98se probably has trouble with disks > 128 GB, so I wouldn't go over that |
| 13:01.16 | Sputnikc | Treason: i think its at 80 gb |
| 13:01.35 | pepelu | to for vacation |
| 13:01.37 | ircdevil | what version of galeon is in sarge? |
| 13:01.42 | Treason | might just half what i got make it 45 |
| 13:01.50 | peterS | ircdevil: galeon is not in sarge |
| 13:01.54 | JimButton | pepelu: well, then just do it |
| 13:02.01 | ircdevil | peterS what does that mean? |
| 13:02.08 | Treason | peterS: the actual drive is 120gig physical size |
| 13:02.12 | JimButton | pepelu: if you go to the southwest, you don't even need to speak english, you can get along with spanish :) |
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| 13:02.18 | shadedancer | Anyone here who knows about unusual beahviour of gnome-panel since today (ie. icons vanashing and those that don't can't be clicked) ?? |
| 13:02.19 | peterS | ircdevil: something about Mozilla version dependencies, and galeon stable releases. in any case galeon is not and will not be in sarge |
| 13:02.23 | pepelu | jejejeje |
| 13:02.33 | ircdevil | peterS ok |
| 13:02.45 | pepelu | i do not speak english well |
| 13:02.56 | peterS | ircdevil: note that I use galeon and I'm on sarge. I put a 'hold' on all my mozilla-related packages to keep galeon from disappearing on me |
| 13:03.07 | pepelu | i study english 8 years ago |
| 13:03.21 | pepelu | but now i only study laws |
| 13:03.23 | pepelu | XD |
| 13:03.52 | ircdevil | peterS i use galeon on woody - on all my boxes, but on this new box galeon crashes when i paste from url line - or if i try to open "preferences" |
| 13:04.07 | ircdevil | *sigh* |
| 13:04.31 | peterS | ircdevil: well, there is galeon 1.2.5 (or is it .6) in woody, and galeon 1.3.9, which *was* in sarge before it was removed. |
| 13:04.46 | pepelu | jim button |
| 13:04.53 | pepelu | where are you from? |
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| 13:05.43 | peterS | ircdevil: and sid has galeon 1.3.11a. I have no idea whether it works well or not |
| 13:05.55 | ircdevil | peterS woody have 1.2.5 and it works great on all my other boxes. but something is awry here. i get gdk errors and i dont know why - maybe i am missing some packages or fonts or ??? |
| 13:05.59 | pepelu | ok |
| 13:06.03 | pepelu | in nebraska |
| 13:06.05 | pepelu | XD |
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| 13:06.21 | pepelu | how is nebraska? |
| 13:06.31 | pepelu | can i go there to visit the city? |
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| 13:06.56 | peterS | pepelu: JimButton is ircing from mich.net which claims to be in Michigan. which is way up north, so rather cold right now I would imagine |
| 13:07.16 | mavx | I think my sound problem was Rhythmbox ;) |
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| 13:07.29 | pepelu | then, better i go to california |
| 13:07.31 | pepelu | XD |
| 13:07.33 | mavx | switched to xmms with alsa plugin... works great |
| 13:07.44 | pepelu | peterS |
| 13:07.59 | pepelu | do you know speak spanish? |
| 13:08.20 | peterS | pepelu: no, unfortunately |
| 13:08.49 | pepelu | i can learn you a words |
| 13:08.51 | pepelu | X |
| 13:08.54 | pepelu | XD |
| 13:08.59 | JimButton | pepelu: no, i am not from nebraska |
| 13:09.15 | JimButton | pepelu: i am in ann arbor, michigan, right now |
| 13:09.20 | pepelu | ass=culo |
| 13:09.22 | pepelu | XD |
| 13:09.42 | JimButton | pepelu: home to the university of michigan, close to detroit and the canadian border :) |
| 13:09.51 | JimButton | pepelu: originally i am from germany though |
| 13:10.07 | pepelu | do you like soccer? |
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| 13:10.25 | JimButton | pepelu: sure |
| 13:10.41 | pepelu | oliver khan |
| 13:10.42 | pepelu | XD |
| 13:10.49 | pepelu | lothar mathaus |
| 13:10.51 | pepelu | XD |
| 13:10.58 | JimButton | pepelu: what does "XD" mean? |
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| 13:11.13 | pepelu | it is a smile |
| 13:11.24 | pepelu | X are the eyes |
| 13:11.32 | pepelu | and D the mouth |
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| 13:12.02 | peterS | pepelu: :Þ |
| 13:12.12 | pepelu | yes |
| 13:12.18 | pepelu | it is the same |
| 13:12.28 | pepelu | :D |
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| 13:12.52 | streuner | Do not trink tequilla and IRC ;-) |
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| 13:13.14 | pepelu | why not, streuner? |
| 13:13.19 | pepelu | tekila is good |
| 13:13.21 | JimButton | pepelu: bayern muenchen is like real madrid, noone in their right mind likes them in germany... |
| 13:13.23 | pepelu | ;) |
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| 13:13.41 | pepelu | why? |
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| 13:13.55 | pepelu | real madrid is the best soccer team in the world |
| 13:14.06 | ircdevil | aha! seems like my problems with galeon is due to locale settings being foobar! |
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| 13:14.14 | JimButton | my friends in barcelona and madrid all hate real |
| 13:14.19 | pepelu | zidane, ronaldo, raul, figo,........... |
| 13:14.22 | pepelu | jajajaja |
| 13:14.34 | pepelu | this is a normal think |
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| 13:15.04 | pepelu | the rivality here between real madrid and fc barcelona is strong |
| 13:15.34 | pepelu | my girlfriends family are fans of barcelona |
| 13:15.36 | zu22 | pepelu: we don't follow soccer in USA, is madrid a good soccer team? |
| 13:15.45 | streuner | nah, that's normal, even when somebody shoot the other fan (he is dead).... |
| 13:15.47 | pepelu | the best |
| 13:15.52 | JimButton | zu22: successful, yes, good is a question... |
| 13:15.58 | pepelu | :) |
| 13:16.00 | JimButton | zu22: think of the yankees in baseball |
| 13:16.12 | DelEat | hmmm - how would you recommend partitioning a 120 gb hd? |
| 13:16.16 | gahan | does reiserfs suck? |
| 13:16.32 | JimButton | ~start a fs war |
| 13:16.34 | | ext2 is better than ISO9660!! |
| 13:16.34 | streuner | ~start an FS war |
| 13:16.36 | | Who needs a file system? Use Orthogonal persistency! |
| 13:16.36 | DelEat | pepelu: haha... :) |
| 13:16.46 | JimButton | orthogonal persistency?! |
| 13:16.48 | pepelu | but you can understand this question |
| 13:16.50 | JimButton | sounds great |
| 13:16.53 | kairo | It's possible show the date of creation of the package? |
| 13:17.03 | pepelu | you have to come here to see this |
| 13:17.05 | pepelu | XD |
| 13:17.17 | mark | hi all, i've got a problem with host name resolution of localhost (i presume). when i do 'telnet localhost' it takes forever to respond, but 'telnet 127.0.0.1' is instant. any ideas? |
| 13:17.26 | ircdevil | what is the correct way to set locale. i have some lines in .bashrc, but if i e.g. start galeon LANG is not set? |
| 13:17.27 | zu22 | JimButton: ah wow :) |
| 13:17.28 | pepelu | do you know boca juniors and river plate in argentina? |
| 13:17.29 | RHCE | <RHCE> hello...i have proftpd server i want to enable anonymous to upload files without seeing them or del/modify |
| 13:17.40 | peterS | kairo: check /usr/share/doc/{package}/changelog.Debian.gz |
| 13:17.50 | pepelu | here is stronger |
| 13:17.51 | DelEat | pepelu: boca juniors = brazilian |
| 13:17.52 | gahan | :D |
| 13:17.53 | gahan | nice |
| 13:17.53 | peterS | kairo: or, if that does not exist, /usr/share/doc/{package}/changelog.gz |
| 13:18.01 | pepelu | no |
| 13:18.08 | DelEat | ircdevil: man locales |
| 13:18.09 | pepelu | is argentinas team |
| 13:18.16 | streuner | kairo: ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives/<pkg> will show you. |
| 13:18.21 | gahan | just a simpel question.. ext3 or reiserfs ? i wish your opinions, simple answers:) |
| 13:18.23 | kairo | i try apt-cache --help, and none options show me. |
| 13:18.28 | kairo | ah ok! |
| 13:18.32 | gahan | im not gonan start the war |
| 13:18.48 | DelEat | pepelu: oh yes, you're right |
| 13:18.51 | zu22 | i just did upgrade in sid and now it is failing for console-data: Looking for keymap to install: us, KDGKBENT at index 128 in table 0: Invalid argument, Failed to dump keymap! is this a bug i should report? |
| 13:18.57 | ircdevil | DelEat i am, but that doesnt tell me how to set locale generally ( in a way i understand :o) |
| 13:19.14 | bizkit | which 2.6 kernel would you suggest? should i use the 2.6.1-rc2-mml or the 2.6.1-rc3? |
| 13:19.22 | kairo | The package it's not installed in my box (still) :P |
| 13:19.27 | pepelu | ok guys, iam going to eat |
| 13:19.28 | DelEat | ircdevil: /etc/locale.gen |
| 13:19.35 | kairo | thanks guys |
| 13:19.44 | pepelu | here are the 2:00 pm |
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| 13:20.20 | pepelu | the lunch time |
| 13:20.21 | pepelu | Xd |
| 13:20.26 | dobby | how can i unload a module when it is loaded an used? |
| 13:20.30 | pepelu | bye |
| 13:20.34 | ircdevil | DelEat i have 3 different locales build - and thats what locale.gen tells me ? |
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| 13:21.38 | ishai | is there any version of debian which installs the sis900 module? I can't find it anywhere in the drivers list and am not getting much love from google |
| 13:21.45 | dobby | please help i have loaded the fbdev module for console and now i see nothing i have to unload it but i dont know how! |
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| 13:22.36 | peterS | ishai: it is compiled into the 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel |
| 13:22.37 | Shorty` | reboot :D |
| 13:22.45 | nevyn | dobby: do you have X running? |
| 13:22.52 | peterS | ishai: no module needed. boot your Debian install cd with the argument 'bf2.4' to make sure you get that kernel |
| 13:22.57 | Shorty` | peterS: that he shouldn't be running anyhow.. |
| 13:23.06 | Shorty` | oh.. heh |
| 13:23.12 | peterS | Shorty`: everyone should be running bf2.4, yes (: |
| 13:23.15 | Scuttle | ho hum...I have a quick question about ip-forwarding with ipchains.. is there an easy way to define a range of ports instead of having each port on a separate line? |
| 13:23.36 | dobby | nevyn: yes |
| 13:23.50 | nevyn | dobby: X is borked as well? |
| 13:23.56 | nevyn | or you loaded it inside X? |
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| 13:24.12 | dobby | nevyn: no |
| 13:24.15 | ishai | peterS - I tried that - but it isnt working, I will try again |
| 13:24.37 | ircdevil | hmmmm? if LANG=en_DK then galeon crash. en LANG=da_DK then not ??? |
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| 13:25.09 | red_one | who here uses jabber at work for work purposes? ie, internal server, messaging workmates etc |
| 13:25.29 | dobby | nevyn: if i want to remove it with modconf error message is module is in usage so not removed! |
| 13:25.38 | nevyn | dobby: oh... |
| 13:25.57 | nevyn | you'd have to kill all the getty's but even then it probably wouldn't go away. just reboot the machine. |
| 13:26.17 | zu22 | is this an unstable bug? -> i just did an upgrade in sid and when installing new package for console-data it says: Looking for keymap to install: us, KDGKBENT at index 128 in table 0: Invalid argument, Failed to dump keymap! is this a bug i should report? how do i fix this? |
| 13:26.50 | dobby | nevyn: what do you think how can I unload the module? |
| 13:27.26 | nevyn | dobby: you can't once it loads it's imediatly in use.. only a reboot can fix it. |
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| 13:27.29 | zu22 | i also tried "install-keymap us" but it gave the same error |
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| 13:27.42 | nevyn | zu22: try loadkeys us |
| 13:27.45 | ishai | peterS - debian says no network devices are available |
| 13:27.50 | zu22 | nevyn: ok |
| 13:28.00 | peterS | ishai: and this is with kernel 2.4? you booted with 'bf2.4'? |
| 13:28.05 | ishai | bf24 |
| 13:28.08 | ishai | not bf2/4 |
| 13:28.13 | ishai | not bf2.4 I mean |
| 13:28.17 | zu22 | nevyn: it said "Loading /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.kmap.gz", is it ok now? |
| 13:28.18 | ircdevil | AAAAH :o)))))) all is sweeeet now - yepeee |
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| 13:28.31 | peterS | ishai: well, whichever it is, my config here says that 'sis900' should be built into that kernel |
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| 13:29.26 | nevyn | zu22: all the keys should now work. |
| 13:29.53 | parody | i just installed debian with bf2.4 kernel, upgraded to unstable, and attempted to install 'kernel-image-2.6-k7'... the result is not bootable.. i get a kernel panic, it says it's unable to mount the root fs |
| 13:30.05 | zu22 | nevyn: cool, good on ya mate :) |
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| 13:33.16 | Xenocide | parody: now you know why its called unstable ;) |
| 13:33.30 | zu22 | oh my! |
| 13:33.47 | parody | Xenocide, ah.. yes... i've known for some time |
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| 13:34.03 | Xenocide | well, start talkin to the bots about 2.6. |
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| 13:34.52 | ishai | peterS - i get no love from bf24 |
| 13:34.57 | ishai | none whatsoever |
| 13:35.27 | parody | Xenocide, how do i use the bots? |
| 13:35.28 | peterS | ishai: well, I don't have a sis900. so all I can tell you is that yes, the driver is in that kernel. |
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| 13:36.26 | ishai | peterS - I do not know why it doesnt detect - off to search google some more |
| 13:36.34 | Xenocide | parody /msg bot topic |
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| 13:38.38 | BubbaG | i seem to have busted my kernel can anyone help, its probably easier in a pm to talk /paste |
| 13:38.58 | chemicallyrelian | define 'busted' |
| 13:39.03 | bizkit | is the -mm patch for -rc2 included in -rc3 ?? |
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| 13:40.15 | ishai | peterS no love whatsoever |
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| 13:41.27 | BubbaG | chemically: when it boots it scrolls 77777777777 |
| 13:41.31 | BubbaG | repetedly |
| 13:41.34 | BubbaG | and thats it |
| 13:41.40 | Helpmeplz | hey |
| 13:41.54 | chemicallyrelian | is that after or before bootloader? |
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| 13:42.11 | sporq | keyboard stuck key? :P |
| 13:42.28 | Helpmeplz | i have a .tar.gz file.. i was wondering.. how i would go about installing that ? |
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| 13:42.33 | chemicallyrelian | if before bootloader, you've stuffed your bootloader. i've seen lilo + friends print out long strings of char's when the boot infor is wrong/corrupt. |
| 13:43.06 | chemicallyrelian | Helpmeplz are you asking how the hell to unzip a tar file? |
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| 13:43.25 | sporq | no, i think he asked how to install it |
| 13:43.33 | sporq | he may be using slackware |
| 13:43.48 | chemicallyrelian | slackware puts everything in a tar? |
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| 13:44.06 | sporq | are you using slackware linux Helpmeplz ? |
| 13:44.10 | sporq | yeah, i thik |
| 13:44.15 | Helpmeplz | no |
| 13:44.18 | Helpmeplz | Red Hat 9 |
| 13:44.18 | bizkit | chemicallyrelian: tar xf file.tar - see man tar |
| 13:44.25 | sporq | aah |
| 13:44.37 | sporq | ^-- what bizkit said |
| 13:44.40 | sporq | :) |
| 13:45.06 | Helpmeplz | hmm.. linux is confusing |
| 13:45.07 | holycow | *wipes monitor* |
| 13:45.23 | Randakar | Hi, what would be the best way to quickly install a (minimal) debian machine? |
| 13:45.31 | nevyn | Helpmeplz: how so? |
| 13:45.35 | Helpmeplz | i've been using windows for a long time now, and just changing to Red Hat 9, is confusing |
| 13:45.39 | holycow | put a cd in and reboot randakar |
| 13:45.51 | chemicallyrelian | Randakar: i'd use a netboot install |
| 13:45.56 | holycow | Helpmeplz, hey dont worry about it dude |
| 13:45.57 | Helpmeplz | my friend told me that Debian is the best, but i saw it on his computer, and it fucked up alot |
| 13:46.05 | Randakar | holycow: Duh. The question is: what CD? |
| 13:46.07 | Helpmeplz | lol, i know i sound like the biggest noob |
| 13:46.10 | Helpmeplz | but yeah |
| 13:46.11 | chemicallyrelian | cd 1 |
| 13:46.15 | holycow | Randakar, the first one? |
| 13:46.17 | holycow | :D |
| 13:46.30 | nevyn | holycow: debian can do that.. but it's fun |
| 13:46.33 | Randakar | chemicallyrelian: netboot? With debian boot floppies? |
| 13:46.40 | Helpmeplz | i was wondering, can u run that apt-get command on red hat ? |
| 13:46.49 | holycow | Helpmeplz, debian kicks |
| 13:46.50 | nevyn | Helpmeplz: yes. |
| 13:47.00 | nevyn | Helpmeplz: but it's not standard |
| 13:47.02 | holycow | yes you can but you haveto install apt first i think? |
| 13:47.05 | Randakar | Helpmeplz: lol. If you install connectiva apt I suppose so |
| 13:47.10 | Helpmeplz | welll im trying to decide between, lindows .. debian or red hat 9 |
| 13:47.21 | holycow | Helpmeplz, Just remember this about linux: its not windows |
| 13:47.24 | chemicallyrelian | Randakar: yeah, netboot. i did it that way. i think. looks at machine. nope, i didn't do it that way. |
| 13:47.24 | nevyn | holycow: uptodate in fedora supports apt sources |
| 13:47.25 | Helpmeplz | and i have no idea what any of them are |
| 13:47.26 | holycow | forget everything you learned |
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| 13:47.33 | holycow | nevyn, ya? oh neat! |
| 13:47.35 | SupahTroll2k3 | Hi. |
| 13:47.39 | SupahTroll2k3 | I've got a question. |
| 13:47.39 | nevyn | ass well as yumm repositories |
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| 13:47.46 | holycow | Helpmeplz, there is A LOT to learn in the linux world |
| 13:47.47 | fcrick | whats a good hex editor? |
| 13:47.52 | nevyn | holycow: it's still redhat. it's still got the dependancy borkage |
| 13:47.55 | chemicallyrelian | yum r00ted my machine. |
| 13:48.00 | SupahTroll2k3 | I lost the dpkg stat files |
| 13:48.03 | Randakar | Would knoppix work for quick installing? |
| 13:48.04 | SupahTroll2k3 | status files |
| 13:48.06 | SupahTroll2k3 | am I screwed? |
| 13:48.06 | Helpmeplz | yeah, it's alot more complex then i thought |
| 13:48.10 | holycow | mostly because you are expected to make it do what you need it to do, not what some random company decided it should do |
| 13:48.18 | holycow | Helpmeplz, actually its not more complex |
| 13:48.20 | holycow | its the same |
| 13:48.28 | holycow | its just in the windows world your expected to be stupid |
| 13:48.30 | holycow | and not think |
| 13:48.36 | jello | Randakar: yeah, they've got two different installers |
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| 13:48.41 | chemicallyrelian | a good hex editor is the AXE editor, but its a w32 progie. |
| 13:48.42 | holycow | ms makes the choices for your and your not supposed question it |
| 13:48.43 | Helpmeplz | lol !!! |
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| 13:48.59 | SupahTroll2k3 | holycow: ever considered the possibility that detailed knowledge of the workings of your computer is not something everyone thinks is peachy and fun? |
| 13:49.08 | Helpmeplz | hmm.. what would u recommend for a newbie of linux ? |
| 13:49.12 | Randakar | holycow: there's a lot of stuff you don't even _have_ in the windows world that you need to learn. Don't underestimate the learning curve here. |
| 13:49.14 | holycow | Helpmeplz, don't be discouraged, the first 6 months are a bit disorenting, but what happens is that after a while you actually start to get to understand an operating system and your machine |
| 13:49.22 | SlayerXP | Helpmeplz: reading docs |
| 13:49.25 | Randakar | jello: cool |
| 13:49.26 | holycow | Randakar, i agree |
| 13:49.30 | SupahTroll2k3 | holycow: there are many people who just want it to work. |
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| 13:49.38 | holycow | SupahTroll2k3, yep |
| 13:49.43 | holycow | thats why he chose redhat :) |
| 13:49.48 | chemicallyrelian | there is a linux something along the lines of 'lycrosis'? it look like windows, but isn't like lindows. |
| 13:49.52 | SupahTroll2k3 | holycow: which is why ms rules the world |
| 13:49.54 | jello | Randakar: ask in #knoppix for details and the difference(s) btwn the two |
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| 13:50.02 | holycow | or he can use mandrake or one of the other nifty ones that come 'preconfigured' |
| 13:50.15 | Helpmeplz | im assuming most of u r anti-microsoft ? |
| 13:50.20 | SupahTroll2k3 | holycow: all distros come preconfigured. |
| 13:50.26 | holycow | SupahTroll2k3, windows rulling anything no longer interests me |
| 13:50.32 | chemicallyrelian | no, i'm not anti-microsfot. i'm pro-freedom. |
| 13:50.38 | Helpmeplz | lol |
| 13:50.39 | SlayerXP | Helpmeplz: you assume wrong. most of us are over the age of 13 |
| 13:50.43 | jello | Helpmeplz: what chemicallyrelian said... |
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| 13:50.50 | chemicallyrelian | i'm 6. |
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| 13:51.04 | Helpmeplz | im nearly 16 |
| 13:51.15 | catta | anti-microsoft? What's microsoft? |
| 13:51.22 | holycow | SupahTroll2k3, *nod* good point |
| 13:51.29 | chemicallyrelian | yeah, well there aren't any girls here, so age doesn't matter. |
| 13:51.42 | holycow | Helpmeplz, microsoft after a while has no meaning |
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| 13:51.52 | holycow | once you 'get' open source what ms does makes no difference |
| 13:51.52 | SlayerXP | helix`: I hope you're listening to this,. |
| 13:51.54 | jello | chemicallyrelian: there are a few that pop in and out |
| 13:52.03 | chemicallyrelian | *points and laughs at catta* for no knowing what a microsfot is. |
| 13:52.15 | catta | chemicallyrelian: jk' |
| 13:52.18 | Helpmeplz | i know it fucks up alot |
| 13:52.39 | holycow | it's important to understand that linux bsds open source etc exist not for some commercial reason but because we need them for our purposes |
| 13:52.55 | Helpmeplz | developers ? |
| 13:53.01 | catta | anyone got a 2.6 kernel working with an es1371 (audiopci-97)? |
| 13:53.03 | Helpmeplz | btw, i have no idea what im talking about |
| 13:53.05 | holycow | i.e. the marketplace created it, as long as there is a community that needs it it will exist |
| 13:53.15 | holycow | ergo, microsoft is irrelevant, they can have the rest of the world |
| 13:53.19 | chemicallyrelian | no. we need open source so that we can get the hell out of the proverbial computing stone-age. |
| 13:53.32 | holycow | chemicallyrelian, yes thats a good point |
| 13:53.33 | double_c | catta: yes |
| 13:53.38 | holycow | the open source world is oooooooo rich and diverse |
| 13:53.50 | Helpmeplz | i suppose so, i mean even my grand-ma can use windows xp with ease |
| 13:53.54 | Helpmeplz | basicalyl anyone can use it |
| 13:53.54 | holycow | a simple way to compare: download.com vs. freshmeat.net/sourceforge.net |
| 13:53.59 | catta | double_c: did you put the new sound config or the old deprecated one? |
| 13:54.09 | holycow | helpme, every gramma can use lindows too |
| 13:54.14 | holycow | which by the way is debian |
| 13:54.17 | chemicallyrelian | you gran can probably use a Mac too. |
| 13:54.34 | jello | holycow: used to be debian, now it's all their proprietary stuff |
| 13:54.48 | jello | holycow: although, i believe if you tell it to, it can use debian stuff |
| 13:54.53 | holycow | jello, really? |
| 13:54.59 | jello | holycow: last i heard |
| 13:55.00 | holycow | *nod* |
| 13:55.01 | double_c | catta: I don't think I canged anything, just built the module. Having said that, I also switched from OSS to ALSA at the same time (using the OSS compatibility layer, everything seems to work ok) |
| 13:55.09 | Helpmeplz | i thought lindows was a take off of windows .. and my friend using debian said that lindows vs debian is like vb vs c++ |
| 13:55.14 | holycow | Helpmeplz, see here you have choice, infinate choice |
| 13:55.28 | holycow | you can choose to make your own os from scratch as you can see on linuxfromscratch.org |
| 13:55.32 | chemicallyrelian | VB is not a language, so its apples to oranges. |
| 13:55.34 | holycow | get a specialized distro |
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| 13:55.50 | holycow | or get a completely preconfigured commercialized dealy like lindows |
| 13:55.50 | jello | well, the thing with lindows is that it logs you in automatically as root -- in my opinion a great way to wreak havoc on your system |
| 13:56.15 | Helpmeplz | hmm.. do u think perhaps red hat 9 would be a good start point ? |
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| 13:56.18 | holycow | v v rich eco system, once you get a hang of the choice you canot go back to that sterile microsoft world |
| 13:56.21 | ishai | there is no sis900 support for woody that I have found. |
| 13:56.26 | holycow | its impossible, too much constraints |
| 13:56.30 | zapw | anyone know how to tell wget to follow and download all links from a website |
| 13:56.31 | catta | double_c: on boot i got a lot of error with the snd stuff... snd: Unknown parameter `device_mode' ... snd_ac97_codec: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_add.. |
| 13:56.38 | chemicallyrelian | it is quite hard to explain. no one can say really what *freedom* is but we all know what we mean when we say it. |
| 13:56.42 | Helpmeplz | because i want to learn how to use linux, and if everything is simple like lindows i hear, then i won't learn the hard way |
| 13:56.47 | holycow | help, i started with redhat, that lasted all of 10 minutes on my desktop |
| 13:56.48 | Helpmeplz | i suppose u could say |
| 13:56.54 | holycow | then i tried mandrake, that lasted 2 hours |
| 13:57.01 | holycow | then i used suse for like 3 or 4 months |
| 13:57.26 | holycow | then i got pissed off at suse's handholding (like ms) and decided to go debian as it gives the biggest bang for my buck |
| 13:57.30 | chemicallyrelian | most software is not free. its there because someone needs it. people shouldn't have to pay for something they need. software is the oxygen of computing. |
| 13:57.31 | holycow | that was my approach |
| 13:57.43 | ishai | the only way I will be able to install debian is if I disable my onboard sis900 and install a 3c59x card |
| 13:57.43 | holycow | i say download all of them and play play till you start to see |
| 13:57.48 | ishai | and that blows. |
| 13:58.01 | holycow | chemicallyrelian, yes very good point |
| 13:58.24 | shadedancer | Anyone here who knows about unusual beahviour of gnome-panel since today (ie. icons vanashing and those that don't can't be clicked) ?? |
| 13:58.27 | streuner | ishai: tried /msg dpkg d-i backup yet? |
| 13:58.29 | jello | Helpmeplz: if you just want to learn linux before commiting you computer/hd just try knoppic |
| 13:58.34 | jello | s/c$/x/ |
| 13:58.37 | ishai | streuner no |
| 13:58.47 | double_c | catta: I hit a problem with unknown symbols, not with the es-1371 driver though. There is something on esr's site (catb.org) that explains how to fix it. I'm too busy to be more helpful right now, sorry |
| 13:58.48 | holycow | Helpmeplz, try all of them and play. then one day you will make a decision as to 'what you need your system to do' and build/install a distro right for your needs |
| 13:58.50 | streuner | dpkg d-i backup |
| 13:58.51 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, streuner |
| 13:59.05 | ishai | spkg says hasnt a clue |
| 13:59.12 | Helpmeplz | ah ok |
| 13:59.15 | catta | double_c: np... i'll take a look on the site... ty |
| 13:59.20 | streuner | apt d-i backup |
| 13:59.22 | | i heard backup d-i images is http://freedesktop.org/~daniel/d-i/ (sarge netinst iso backup); they're even signed!, or see /topic #debian-boot |
| 13:59.44 | Helpmeplz | well i mainly use my computer for programming, msn and videos and music ... that's it |
| 13:59.46 | ishai | thanks |
| 13:59.47 | double_c | catta: np, hope you find the answer |
| 13:59.56 | streuner | dondelelcaro: the same again... |
| 14:00.04 | ishai | Im astounded that none of the debian boot images ive found so far work |
| 14:00.13 | holycow | helpme, any distro can satisfy those needs imho |
| 14:00.22 | Helpmeplz | hmm... and everyone in the linux community is nice, especially in here .. when i called up microsoft tech support a long time ago, they we're asshole's n charged me for a phone call |
| 14:00.23 | holycow | debian is simply the easiest to manage because of apt-get |
| 14:00.25 | chemicallyrelian | without my software my comptuer is usless. without my computer, software is usless. with my computer i must run software wild and free. My software and my comptuer are my best friend. i must contribute bck to software so it is made greater and becomes closer to complete. |
| 14:00.37 | holycow | Helpmeplz, you havent been around here long enough |
| 14:00.42 | chemicallyrelian | heh. |
| 14:00.49 | holycow | we have 5 or 6 big time asshats that are complete assholes |
| 14:00.49 | Helpmeplz | what u mean holycow ? |
| 14:00.59 | Helpmeplz | oh ok |
| 14:01.08 | holycow | but if you ignore them you will be fine, the rest of us are nice and helpfull :) |
| 14:01.15 | Helpmeplz | lol |
| 14:01.18 | streuner | ishai: all of them? ;-) /msg apt di |
| 14:01.36 | website | somebody know a program like sftp with resume? |
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| 14:01.57 | chemicallyrelian | i have triend redhat(rh) 6.2 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 8 9. FreeBSD, Solaris8 (30 minutes), Mandrake 9.1 Debian r3.0 |
| 14:02.00 | holycow | Helpmeplz, what do you code? |
| 14:02.04 | streuner | website: i know ncftp, which has a nice rescue |
| 14:02.08 | Helpmeplz | also, in red hat 9... theirs a package that's for rh8 (red hat 8 im assuming), will it work on redhat 9 |
| 14:02.09 | ishai | streuner - I have no idea what youre talking about |
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| 14:02.21 | streuner | ~tell ishai about di |
| 14:02.24 | Helpmeplz | i code in vb, and delphi |
| 14:02.24 | holycow | Helpmeplz, sometimes, sometimes not |
| 14:02.25 | chemicallyrelian | ist bin ein asshat? |
| 14:02.33 | streuner | ishai: yep, that's what thought |
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| 14:02.44 | website | streuner: ncftp support ftp over ssh? |
| 14:02.45 | holycow | vb? |
| 14:02.48 | holycow | try python :) |
| 14:02.53 | caphuso | ftp over ssh? |
| 14:02.54 | Helpmeplz | yeah |
| 14:03.08 | website | yes caphuso |
| 14:03.11 | holycow | Helpmeplz, why are you switching? are you just checking it out to see? |
| 14:03.21 | Helpmeplz | Email Client / WebBrowser |
| 14:03.21 | Helpmeplz | Name - Mozilla |
| 14:03.21 | Helpmeplz | Site - http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/871786/com/mozilla-1.5-1.i386.rpm.html |
| 14:03.21 | Helpmeplz | Direct Download Link - *** Downloads On Page *** |
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| 14:03.22 | ishai | thx |
| 14:03.22 | caphuso | website: how would that work and why would anyone want to do that? |
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| 14:03.24 | ircdevil | if i want to run a perl cgi script, shouldnt there be a specific perl cgi module in httpd.conf? |
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| 14:03.25 | chemicallyrelian | i don't know what debian procedure is for netbooting. i think i need to establish a local mirror of sorts, or NFS mounts of each cd. |
| 14:03.34 | bjmg | hi |
| 14:03.36 | Skaag | anyone knows if I can change the default character set in mysql to hebrew? |
| 14:03.42 | chemicallyrelian | but it doesn't seem as nice as rh or mandrake's netboot. |
| 14:03.46 | streuner | caphuso: dpkg forgot the factoids again... |
| 14:03.47 | peterS | ircdevil: cgi_module |
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| 14:04.13 | website | caphuso, i've used sftp (support ftp over ssh) but it haven't resume |
| 14:04.13 | caphuso | streuner: then we need to get dondelelcaro to restart it |
| 14:04.13 | Helpmeplz | hey |
| 14:04.22 | caphuso | website: sftp is *not* ftp over ssh |
| 14:04.22 | peterS | ircdevil: CGI is an abstract enough interface that there is no need for anything specific to Perl in it |
| 14:04.23 | holycow | Helpmeplz in debian all you haveto do is type in apt-get install mozilla-firebird to install the browser once you get debian setup and upgraded :) |
| 14:04.38 | holycow | you would have already installed it by now and all the dependencies would of been taken care of |
| 14:04.41 | Helpmeplz | i accidently hit shift insert |
| 14:04.42 | Helpmeplz | sorry about that |
| 14:04.51 | holycow | das oki |
| 14:04.51 | Helpmeplz | what about kmess ? |
| 14:04.54 | bjmg | i have a problem with dumpkeys: if i run dumpkeys -c iso8859-1 (or -15) i get the following error: KDGKBENT at index 128 in table 0: Invalid argument - now I have copied the keymap from another workstation - so i have no problem - but I want to know how can I solve this problem |
| 14:04.58 | ircdevil | peterS hmmm, it is loaded. and i did put opeion ExecCGI in <Directory /home/*/public_html> - and restart apache. now working thou |
| 14:05.02 | website | caphuso, yes it's a program that use ssh to download/upload file |
| 14:05.02 | ircdevil | s/now/not |
| 14:05.11 | Helpmeplz | cus im mainly switching os's for the test of it and kmess |
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| 14:05.17 | caphuso | website: it is. it's also a protocol. and it has nothing to do with ftp |
| 14:05.26 | chemicallyrelian | sftp is like zmodem or xmodem or somesuch. |
| 14:05.47 | chemicallyrelian | i'd call secure ftp ftps. like https. |
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| 14:06.04 | website | caphuso, do you now a program like sftp with resume? |
| 14:06.08 | ishai | peters that urls a big 404 |
| 14:06.08 | website | know |
| 14:06.20 | ishai | or Streuner |
| 14:06.36 | caphuso | website: try lftp's fish support, that might be able to do it |
| 14:06.40 | ircdevil | ah |
| 14:06.51 | website | tnx to all |
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| 14:07.13 | seb | Hello |
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| 14:07.45 | Zenox | can anyone recommend a good howto for setting up exim, courier-pop3 (if it is needed?), amavis (or similar used for clamav, spamassassin) and mysql (virtual hosts)? |
| 14:07.49 | seb | !list |
| 14:08.06 | caphuso | seb: this is not a stupid warez channel |
| 14:08.12 | pngwn | geezus |
| 14:08.14 | seb | ok |
| 14:08.15 | zu22 | haha |
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| 14:08.21 | seb | excuse mi |
| 14:08.22 | zu22 | ~lart seb |
| 14:08.25 | seb | me |
| 14:08.40 | Evaso | hi all |
| 14:09.23 | zu22 | seb: try undernet lol |
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| 14:09.35 | Evaso | there is a problem with ramdisk in kernel deb package 2.6? |
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| 14:09.35 | TylerK | hey, this is "HelpMePlz" |
| 14:09.35 | TylerK | i found a better client |
| 14:09.43 | Vicious | wait for it, wait for it |
| 14:09.54 | seb | how install qt? |
| 14:09.57 | seb | please |
| 14:10.19 | SlayerXP | seb: apt-get install qt |
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| 14:10.20 | caphuso | seb: "apt-cache --names-only search ^libqt", choose the packages you need, install them |
| 14:10.34 | seb | thank you |
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| 14:10.40 | seb | I try it |
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| 14:11.49 | strerror_work | saving me a rtfm, anyone give me the syntax quickly to pull a package down with apt and compile it on the local system before installing it? |
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| 14:12.26 | peterS | strerror_work: apt-get -b source |
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| 14:13.54 | seb | thank you, it's good |
| 14:15.11 | Zap-W | how do i tell grep to print matching word without the whole line with it |
| 14:15.33 | jm_ | Zapelius: you don't |
| 14:15.36 | jm_ | Zap-W ^^^^^^^ |
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| 14:16.03 | peterS | Zap-W: perl -ne '/pattern/ && {print $&,"\n"}' |
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| 14:16.23 | AbeeL | make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/.tmp_gtkcheck] Error 1 |
| 14:16.30 | AbeeL | how can I fix this error? |
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| 14:17.01 | peterS | AbeeL: that's not the error. scroll up a bit in your compile terminal to see the real error |
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| 14:17.17 | AbeeL | peterS: ok |
| 14:17.18 | Zap-W | peterS : .. |
| 14:17.35 | AbeeL | linux-2.6.0# make xconfig |
| 14:17.36 | Zap-W | peterS : it prints only what's in pattern |
| 14:17.42 | Zap-W | peterS : not the rest of the word |
| 14:17.43 | AbeeL | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:17.43 | AbeeL | * |
| 14:17.43 | AbeeL | * Unable to find the QT installation. |
| 14:17.43 | AbeeL | sorry for the flood :( |
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| 14:17.51 | peterS | Zap-W: I thought that's what you wanted ...? |
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| 14:18.12 | double_c | AbeeL: use make menuconfig instead |
| 14:18.17 | Zap-W | peterS : i need the whole word that has the pattern |
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| 14:19.02 | peterS | Zap-W: so expand the pattern to include the rest of the word: perl -ne '/\S*pattern\S*/ && {print $&,"\n"}' |
| 14:19.13 | ircdevil | eeeh? dh-make-perl cannot resolve ftp.perl.org and is asking my for my CPAN site. what should i tell it? |
| 14:19.29 | AbeeL | double_c: menuconfig not works :( |
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| 14:19.40 | double_c | AbeeL: try it as root |
| 14:19.44 | peterS | ircdevil: if you can't resolve ftp.perl.org you probably won't be able to resolve a mirror address either |
| 14:20.20 | asg | AbeeL: don't forget to install libncurses5-dev (for menuconfig) |
| 14:20.40 | ircdevil | peterS can you resolve ftp.perl.org |
| 14:20.46 | AbeeL | asg: let me see.. thx |
| 14:20.55 | peterS | ircdevil: 207.45.221.24 |
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| 14:21.34 | ircdevil | hrm |
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| 14:23.13 | Zap-W | peterS : and how do i tell it not to print anything before the character > |
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| 14:23.24 | peterS | Zap-W: man perlre |
| 14:23.24 | Zap-W | including |
| 14:23.33 | Zap-W | dont know? |
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| 14:23.57 | peterS | Zap-W: I probably know how. but I do not know what it is that you want. so reading the manpage for 'perlre' is likely to get you your answer faster |
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| 14:24.29 | argonel | is there a quick way to find what files are different in /etc from stock? |
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| 14:26.10 | Zap-W | i want that last thing |
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| 14:26.31 | peterS | argonel: cd /var/lib/dpkg/info; grep ' etc/' *.md5sums | while read sum file; do md5sum /$file | read sum2 dummy; if [ $sum != $sum2 ]; then echo "/$file differs"; fi; done; done |
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| 14:26.34 | peterS | argonel: untested |
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| 14:26.56 | peterS | argonel: in fact, unlikely to work - I forgot a pair of { } |
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| 14:28.43 | buht | hey all.. i get operation not permitted on trying to harlink two directries.... what am i doing wrong ? " ln - d /dir1 /dir2" |
| 14:28.54 | Shorty` | -d or - d |
| 14:29.15 | buht | -d |
| 14:29.22 | peterS | argonel: try this instead: cd /var/lib/dpkg/info; grep -h ' etc/' *.md5sums | tee /tmp/sums | awk '{print $2}' | xargs md5sum | sed s,/,, | diff /tmp/sums - |
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| 14:29.41 | buht | ln: creating hard link : Operation not permitted, and i am root |
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| 14:31.06 | buht | basically... im trying to link symbolic or hard... maybe i canus mount.... two directories... for ftp visibility |
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| 14:31.27 | Shorty` | ln -s target source |
| 14:31.28 | Shorty` | ? |
| 14:31.32 | stormzen | I just upgraded from woody to testing... is KDE dead? |
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| 14:31.46 | buht | mount --bind worked better |
| 14:31.58 | buht | symbolics arent working with the ftp clients i have tried |
| 14:32.19 | peterS | argonel: actually the following works: |
| 14:32.27 | peterS | argonel: cd /var/lib/dpkg/info; grep -h ' etc/' *.md5sums | sed 's, , /,' | tee /tmp/sums | awk '{print $2}' | xargs md5sum | diff /tmp/sums - |
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| 14:32.39 | buht | thanks for helping.... |
| 14:32.39 | buht | brb |
| 14:32.43 | holycow | heh |
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| 14:33.02 | peterS | argonel: HTH (: |
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| 14:33.19 | peterS | argonel: there's probably an easier way but I don't know it |
| 14:33.33 | stormzen | Is it known that upgrading to testing kills KDE? |
| 14:33.40 | argonel | peterS: hehe we'll see :) |
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| 14:34.17 | DuckKing | Yo |
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| 14:34.31 | DuckKing | could someone recompile php4 and upload it |
| 14:34.35 | DuckKing | Please ... |
| 14:34.37 | Shorty` | . |
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| 14:34.48 | DuckKing | It is currently really broken ... |
| 14:34.48 | BlackBokz | hello peeps :) |
| 14:34.49 | Shorty` | why? |
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| 14:35.01 | DuckKing | libxsl1 bad binding |
| 14:35.08 | DuckKing | libxslt1 |
| 14:35.10 | DuckKing | sorry |
| 14:35.15 | g4lt | ~peeps |
| 14:35.25 | | [peeps] a marshmallow chick product by Just Born, http://www.marshmallowpeeps.com There have been no confirmed sightings of these marshmallows on IRC, so anyone asking for them is being optimistic at best. stick them in the microwave for 30 seconds for a yummy treat |
| 14:35.26 | peterS | DuckKing: you have a bug number? |
| 14:35.26 | Shorty` | email the package maintainer |
| 14:35.29 | DuckKing | Nop ... |
| 14:35.36 | mwilson | How does that mean it's "really broken"? Or that it's PHP4's fault? |
| 14:35.40 | DuckKing | But there is a bug repport allready done |
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| 14:36.12 | mwilson | Then you don't have a problem, do you? |
| 14:36.15 | strerror_work | peterS: thanks |
| 14:36.15 | DuckKing | mwilson: php4-domxml binds with libbreakpoint.so.1 |
| 14:36.23 | DuckKing | That does not exists anymore in libxslt1 |
| 14:36.34 | DuckKing | mwilson: I recompiled php4 |
| 14:36.36 | peterS | DuckKing: so what is the bug number? |
| 14:36.40 | DuckKing | lol |
| 14:36.41 | DuckKing | k |
| 14:36.44 | DuckKing | I look at it$ |
| 14:36.59 | BlackBokz | i wanna do a kernel upgrade from 2.4.18(deb. default) to 2.4.24 on my colocated server, i think the kernel works, but i'm little bit concerned about the harddisks.. i dont want my server to stop when e2fsk is gonna do a harddrive check (cause my system is up for more then 180 days).. how do i prevent the server from doing a check? or delay the check |
| 14:37.07 | peterS | DuckKing: I just want to know why the maintainer has refused to fix it. because if the maintainer *is* fixing it, why are you asking about it here? |
| 14:37.45 | mwilson | peterS: Isn't "refused" a little strong? Perhaps the whiner only reported it last night. |
| 14:37.55 | DuckKing | #224824 |
| 14:37.56 | peterS | mwilson: eh, good point |
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| 14:38.12 | DuckKing | This is the bug number |
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| 14:38.50 | DuckKing | We got this bug for about 3 weeks |
| 14:39.07 | DuckKing | And makes the debian really looks like ... hmm ... you see :) |
| 14:39.23 | DuckKing | Cant install php4-domxml on debian unstable ..! |
| 14:39.32 | DuckKing | This is too bad :( |
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| 14:39.37 | sussudio | DuckKing: have you submitted a fix? |
| 14:39.40 | mwilson | DuckKing: Yes, yes, it makes Debian look really good and you really stupid. Did you actually bother to read the fscking bug? |
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| 14:40.05 | DuckKing | sussudio: there is no need for a fix |
| 14:40.17 | sussudio | DuckKing: you're a wanker, aren't you? |
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| 14:40.19 | DuckKing | php4 just need to be recompiled |
| 14:40.22 | mwilson | DuckKing: Just a need for you to have a brain. |
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| 14:40.34 | DuckKing | mwilson: explain ... |
| 14:40.52 | peterS | DuckKing: if you read it, you'll notice that the breakage was in libxslt1, not php4. reinstall your backed up copy of *that*, which I'm sure you have since you are running unstable after all, and be happy |
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| 14:41.08 | mwilson | peterS: You ARE joking, of course. |
| 14:41.11 | peterS | mwilson: of course |
| 14:41.18 | DuckKing | peterS: you are wrong |
| 14:41.26 | DuckKing | I am sorry to tell you that ... |
| 14:41.32 | peterS | I don't usually say this, but ... lol |
| 14:41.34 | DuckKing | The thing just compiles fine |
| 14:41.34 | mwilson | Why in the world would a cluebie do that? Things might work if he did, and then he couldn't wank about it. |
| 14:41.35 | sussudio | kick the duck. |
| 14:41.46 | gnupg | Hi all |
| 14:41.48 | DuckKing | without the libbreakpoint library |
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| 14:41.58 | DuckKing | Well boys ... |
| 14:42.01 | Penix | ~tell paquin_ about root |
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| 14:42.09 | DuckKing | I am sorry I disturb you ... |
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| 14:42.15 | DuckKing | I just wanted to say ... |
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| 14:42.29 | peterS | DuckKing: if you want to continue to make a nuisance of yourself, you can reopen the bug report and tell the maintainer why you are doing this. |
| 14:42.39 | sussudio | !test |
| 14:42.43 | sussudio | !status |
| 14:42.44 | dpkg | Since Mon Jan 5 23:25:59 2004, there have been 17 modifications, 761 questions, 249 dunnos, 4 morons and 358 commands. I have been awake for 2d 15h 16m 44s this session, and currently reference 0 factoids. I'm using about 16576 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 339.25/18.87 child 494.31/32.69 |
| 14:42.51 | sussudio | ... |
| 14:43.17 | sussudio | ~seen ravenbird |
| 14:43.24 | | ravenbird <ravenbird@nuit.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 6h 38m 53s ago, saying: 'There, there, simonrvn. It's OK. I'm here for you.'. |
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| 14:43.44 | peterS | sussudio: nice that dpkg has 0 factoids, eh? |
| 14:43.56 | sussudio | peterS: it's had botrot before. |
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| 14:44.22 | DuckKing | You so nice people please kick me! |
| 14:44.39 | DuckKing | Thx :) |
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| 14:45.16 | argonel | peterS: thanks for that, but there seem to be a lot of files without md5sums |
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| 14:45.44 | peterS | argonel: any file generated dynamically, via some sort of debconf interface, might not be listed |
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| 14:46.07 | sussudio | %bunnies |
| 14:46.11 | bunnies | Bunnies are evil. Just look at their long ears and the way they twitch their noses. They're evil i tell you! And the reason they don't wear glasses, is because they use contacts. |
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| 14:46.38 | Dewi | how do I see what file system is running on a partition? |
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| 14:46.40 | asg | sussudio: new bunny bot huh? |
| 14:46.41 | greycat | bunnies: status |
| 14:46.42 | bunnies | Since Thu Jan 8 14:45:52 2004, there have been 0 modifications, 1 question, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands. I have been awake for 49s this session, and currently reference 22682 factoids. I'm using about 14564 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. |
| 14:46.48 | argonel | peterS: ok. it seems to me debconf knows when a file is changed when you upgrade a package. any idea how it does that? |
| 14:46.48 | Penix | ~test |
| 14:46.52 | | Passed |
| 14:46.53 | greycat | joy. another blootbot. just what we needed. |
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| 14:47.22 | sussudio | greycat: dpkg seems to be amnesic and apt is schizo. |
| 14:47.32 | LoRez | schizo? |
| 14:47.51 | peterS | argonel: using {package}.conffiles and {package}.md5sums in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
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| 14:47.53 | Dewi | does debian support any filesystems less homo-erotic than ext2/ext3? |
| 14:47.53 | sussudio | yes, it has ibot's database with bit of apt's mixed in |
| 14:48.03 | Penix | and bunnies seems to be an amnesic schizo |
| 14:48.04 | greycat | Dewi: VFAT |
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| 14:48.25 | argonel | wtf is a homoerotic filesystem? |
| 14:48.26 | Dewi | greycat : that's pretty bad. but still better than ext2/ext3 |
| 14:48.28 | Penix | greycat: he said *less* |
| 14:48.29 | asg | Dewi: reiserfs (thought that's auto erotic) |
| 14:48.31 | Dewi | greycat : are you telling the truth? |
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| 14:48.36 | peterS | Dewi: depends. what filesystem do *you* keep your gay pr0n on? |
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| 14:48.41 | tapas|zZ1 | hi |
| 14:48.42 | Penix | gampfs! |
| 14:48.46 | Penix | ~+gamp |
| 14:48.48 | | gamp is an ncurses-based console MP3 player for Linux. URL: http://www.cs.umn.edu/~wburdick/gamp/ |
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| 14:48.48 | peterS | Penix: heh |
| 14:48.48 | Dewi | argonel : the kind where I shutdown my machine politely, only to have it not boot the next time I switch it on |
| 14:48.52 | izn0g | dewi: but if you use vfat, you'lle have to slap yourself with a copy of the software patent text |
| 14:48.55 | Penix | bastards |
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| 14:49.02 | sussudio | Penix: told you it's schizo. |
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| 14:49.07 | sussudio | %gamp |
| 14:49.08 | bunnies | Gay Asian Midget Pr0n! - http://gamp.mine.nu |
| 14:49.11 | argonel | Dewi: ahh. but why does it do that? |
| 14:49.23 | Dewi | argonel : or, alternatively, if I lose power or switch off my machine non-politely, it destroys all my files |
| 14:49.28 | Dewi | argonel : It just always has. |
| 14:49.33 | Penix | probably staff weenies fscking around with it |
| 14:49.40 | Dewi | argonel : linux file-systems seem to be like that |
| 14:49.43 | Penix | making it politically correct and less offensive |
| 14:49.51 | sussudio | Penix: no. i just explained what's wrong with it. |
| 14:49.55 | abrotman | Penix said weenie |
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| 14:50.14 | argonel | dewi: it doesn't do that here, so i'm pretty sure its not the filesystems fault. |
| 14:50.19 | LoRez | Penix: staff weenies eh? |
| 14:50.27 | Dewi | argonel : <roll eyes> |
| 14:50.29 | sussudio | basically, apt was ibot renamed with bits of dpkg's database loaded onto it, but without replacing the old ibot factoids. |
| 14:50.29 | Penix | LoRez: yes. staff weenies |
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| 14:50.34 | Dewi | argonel : look, it's happened to me about 4 times |
| 14:50.39 | sussudio | big, throbbing staffs? |
| 14:50.43 | Penix | hehe |
| 14:50.46 | tapas | he, my mozilla likes to freeze often when browsing pr0n sites.. is it the javascript? anyone else experience stuff like that? |
| 14:50.46 | Dewi | argonel : linux behaves VERY badly when shut down impolitely |
| 14:50.58 | Dewi | argonel : does debian support any other filesystems? |
| 14:50.58 | Penix | yes. throbbing ones up apt's arse |
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| 14:51.03 | argonel | Dewi: of course it does. |
| 14:51.08 | Dewi | argonel : fs might be good to try, perhaps |
| 14:51.13 | Penix | which explains the schizo part |
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| 14:51.50 | argonel | dewi: but perhaps before giving up on ext3 you should try and find out why the file system isn't closing properly on a good shutdown |
| 14:51.50 | sussudio | what causes dpkg to lose its database anyway? disconnected mysql daemon? |
| 14:51.51 | streuner | bunnies, no di is http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/installers.html |
| 14:51.52 | bunnies | streuner: okay |
| 14:52.01 | abrotman | mysql? |
| 14:52.11 | sussudio | %mysql |
| 14:52.11 | bunnies | rumour has it, mysql is at http://www.tcx.se and http://www.mysql.com or is FINALLLY GPL, or http://www.mysql.com/news/article-23.html, or package mysql-server, or mysql-client It's not a database system, it's just a program be able to parse SQL statements and crash eventually. see why-not-mysql |
| 14:52.16 | abrotman | i know what it is |
| 14:52.28 | abrotman | oh .. that dpkg |
| 14:52.33 | Dewi | argonel : because it's the same dodgy shit it's been for 5 years? |
| 14:52.35 | sussudio | dpkg uses a mysql database. apt uses sqlite appearently. |
| 14:52.35 | dpkg | sussudio: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 14:52.37 | abrotman | i thoguht you meant dpkg/apt-get |
| 14:52.39 | Dewi | argonel : that would be my guess anyway |
| 14:52.40 | peterS | %why-not-mysql |
| 14:52.41 | bunnies | why-not-mysql is, like, http://openacs.org/why-not-mysql.html |
| 14:52.43 | sussudio | dpkg: indeed. |
| 14:52.43 | dpkg | sussudio: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 14:52.47 | sussudio | dpkg: yes |
| 14:52.47 | dpkg | no idea, sussudio |
| 14:53.03 | Dewi | argonel : I really like the way fsck doesn't even tell you what files are involved |
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| 14:53.12 | gothtec | A program is asking for "the location of the directory of C header files that match your running |
| 14:53.12 | gothtec | kernel?) |
| 14:53.22 | Dewi | argonel : so I can't see if they are important data I need to see about recovering |
| 14:53.32 | peterS | gothtec: programs should *never* care about that. file a bug report. only kernel modules should care. |
| 14:53.36 | Dewi | argonel : it might be in a log somewhere of course, but fucked if I know. I have to get some sleep. Goodnight. |
| 14:53.39 | LoRez | gothtec: this wouldn't be vmware, would it? |
| 14:53.42 | argonel | Dewi: well, now thats a valid question. if you weren't such a snot i'm sure someone else here would answer it. |
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| 14:54.00 | gothtec | LoRez: it would indeed. trying out a demonstration version |
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| 14:54.15 | Dewi | argonel : well, a guy tries to fit in |
| 14:54.20 | gothtec | LoRez: it's a test machine with only a stock kernel. I am wondering if that directory even exists |
| 14:54.33 | sussudio | Dewi: but is too fat? |
| 14:54.33 | LoRez | gothtec: not unless you installed the kernel headers package. |
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| 14:54.49 | Dewi | sussudio : far too |
| 14:54.51 | Dewi | sussudio : yes |
| 14:54.56 | gothtec | LoRez: ah. of course. I'll go fetch that one |
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| 14:56.22 | Dewi | argonel : next time I'll pretend to be pleased about debian's propensity to repeatedly trash my data |
| 14:56.26 | argonel | Dewi: its not any more correct to mock someone with a personality problem than it is one with a physical disability |
| 14:56.29 | zu22 | i write a hello.php and put it in /var/www, when i load up http://localhost/hello mozilla complains it doesn't know how to open file of type x-hhtp-php, yet i recall in past being able to open php apps in mozilla, how do i get mozilla to do this? |
| 14:56.40 | Dewi | argonel : what? |
| 14:56.45 | abrotman | zu22: you have to change your apache config |
| 14:57.07 | kyll | i cant find a usb mass storage device. this is from kernel log: "scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices", "Vendor: MSI Model: MS-551X Rev: 0100", "WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured". does it mean its not assigned to any device file or what? |
| 14:57.08 | zu22 | abrotman: ah what should i add to my apache config file? |
| 14:57.09 | Dewi | argonel : who was I mocking? you seem to be mocking my tired stress... but apart from that |
| 14:57.18 | abrotman | zu22: i think its on the php.net site |
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| 14:57.23 | abrotman | something about AddType iirc |
| 14:57.27 | DuckKing | zu22: add index.php to you default index too |
| 14:57.27 | zu22 | abrotman: ok thx |
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| 14:58.07 | ishai | peterS - I found a netinst that used 2.4.19 and it worked fin |
| 14:58.07 | ishai | fine |
| 14:58.07 | zu22 | DuckKing: alright thx |
| 14:58.07 | streuner | ishai: URL? |
| 14:58.07 | abrotman | zu22: http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.apache.php |
| 14:58.07 | zu22 | abrotman: cool! |
| 14:58.13 | ishai | streuner - not possible to give right now, installing deb on other system |
| 14:58.20 | argonel | dewi: well, whatever. i'm sure there is a way to find out what files were affected |
| 14:58.30 | DuckKing | and activate AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
| 14:58.34 | DuckKing | in httpd.conf |
| 14:58.36 | Dewi | argonel : yeah... I'll have a look tomorrow |
| 14:58.39 | DuckKing | Should be enough |
| 14:58.40 | Dewi | argonel : sorry about my impatience |
| 14:58.44 | zu22 | DuckKing: great, will do |
| 14:58.45 | Dewi | argonel : have a nice evening |
| 14:58.52 | Dewi | argonel : and thanks for trying to help |
| 14:58.54 | DuckKing | zu22: check if the php module is also loaded |
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| 14:59.12 | zu22 | DuckKing: ah ok |
| 14:59.13 | ishai | evidently 2.4.18 is bad with sis900 they forgot it even though they said they didnt |
| 14:59.23 | maestro | zu22: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php this line must exist in httpd.conf |
| 14:59.55 | argonel | peterS: it looks like this is a situation i should have planned for, rather than trying to implement after the fact |
| 15:00.10 | peterS | argonel: what situation? |
| 15:00.17 | zu22 | maestro: ok |
| 15:00.24 | Penix | smoking some nice crack there, ishai |
| 15:00.31 | argonel | peterS: trying to find out what the different is between my current installation and stock |
| 15:00.32 | DuckKing | zu22: LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so |
| 15:00.36 | DuckKing | in modules.conf |
| 15:00.40 | JimButton | ~penixstrike ishai |
| 15:00.44 | | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking ishai to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 15:00.46 | DuckKing | zu22: check this too |
| 15:00.53 | slanning | dpkg says it has no clue about guidelines (mentioned in join message) |
| 15:00.54 | DuckKing | Then it should work |
| 15:00.54 | dpkg | slanning: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 15:01.00 | streuner | %lart itself |
| 15:01.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 617] by debhelper |
| 15:01.04 | LoRez | ~guidelines |
| 15:01.06 | | 1) Don't ask to ask. Just ask. 2) Don't repeat questions. Read and grow; show growth in new questions. 3) Reading technical documentation is a skill, please persevere, it's worth it. 4) If your problem isn't solved, come back a few hours or days later. 5) Please use /msg to talk to the bots. 6) Be polite and patient. 7) Paste on #flood, not here. 8) Don't use colours or bold, do not run scripts. 9) No Trolls. 10) see <msg> |
| 15:01.11 | Penix | slanning: it's fscked up atm |
| 15:01.20 | DuckKing | zu22: And don't install php4-domxml if you are on sid ! |
| 15:01.20 | slanning | k |
| 15:01.41 | Penix | ~spank DuckKing |
| 15:01.45 | | ACTION bends DuckKing over his knee and tattoos 'ibot' in his pasty white buttocks |
| 15:01.54 | abrotman | ok .. so if i see colors .. and they aren't on .. then what? |
| 15:01.58 | DuckKing | lol ;) |
| 15:02.00 | zu22 | DuckKing: ok i'm on sid :) thx for warning |
| 15:02.10 | g4lt | abrotman then you need to put away the LSD |
| 15:02.16 | abrotman | woohoo .. LSD |
| 15:02.17 | Penix | heh |
| 15:02.33 | Penix | stop hogging, you acid hog you |
| 15:02.34 | abrotman | ~LSD |
| 15:02.36 | | rumour has it, lsd is 3l33t or lysergic acid diethylamide or Linux Software Distribution or linux + freebsdor a way to mistype ls. see also sl or http://www.erowid.org/archive/hyperreal/drugs/humor/man.lsd, or see FreeLSD |
| 15:02.48 | JimButton | abrotman: you were watching the 3D pictures from mars and forgot to take off the red/green glasses? |
| 15:02.50 | DuckKing | lol :) |
| 15:03.04 | abrotman | JimButton: did you see those pictures on CNN? .. i was rollling on the floor |
| 15:03.18 | JimButton | abrotman: no, only in the NY Times |
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| 15:03.24 | JimButton | abrotman: the people looked great there |
| 15:03.28 | g4lt | Berkeley is famous for two things, LSD and BSD. Coincidence? |
| 15:03.30 | Penix | you were tripping hard at the time and mars news happened to come on? |
| 15:03.45 | streuner | Where are our lol-stats and heh-stats gone? |
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| 15:03.53 | zu22 | bbl |
| 15:04.01 | Penix | streuner: they never worked well to begin with |
| 15:05.08 | JimButton | i heard that berkeley doesn't have much bars because people there are so health-obsessed they prefer raw fruit juice or similar |
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| 15:05.28 | argonel | is there a way to efficiently grep a bunch of patterns against a bunch of files? |
| 15:05.29 | sussudio | JimButton: fruit is always raw |
| 15:05.42 | abrotman | fruit can be cooked |
| 15:05.46 | Penix | what about those prepackaged mango trees? |
| 15:05.51 | streuner | mentioned berkeley, they want some Elite-Unis here in germany too |
| 15:05.51 | sussudio | if you cook fruit, it becomes vegetables. |
| 15:06.00 | JimButton | sussudio: interesting theory |
| 15:06.03 | abrotman | so an apple pie isn't apple pie anymore? |
| 15:06.03 | streuner | What do you think about? |
| 15:06.10 | sussudio | JimButton: not a theory. look it up. |
| 15:06.16 | JimButton | sussudio: anyway, you know what i mean |
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| 15:06.29 | JimButton | i don't want to play language nitpicking games |
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| 15:07.27 | g4lt | JimButton s/i/I/ ;P |
| 15:07.46 | Penix | asg: s/chuckles/chUckles/ |
| 15:07.48 | streuner | Bush was at Harward, do you think it is a bad or good thing to establish an Elite-UNI then? |
| 15:07.58 | JimButton | streuner: no, he was at yale |
| 15:08.07 | JimButton | streuner: and it is spelled "harvard" |
| 15:08.17 | asg | streuner: not hard to get into Harvard if you have money, only hard if you don't |
| 15:08.26 | sussudio | It's pronounced HAVAAAAA TIMMAH |
| 15:08.35 | Penix | I thought it was spelled "midget" |
| 15:08.36 | g4lt | where'd his brother Yeb go then? |
| 15:08.38 | asg | !southiesmite sussudio |
| 15:09.02 | Penix | g4lt: Miami Community College? |
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| 15:09.33 | streuner | JimButton: i read today he also studied Jura in Harvard, so it should both correct. |
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| 15:09.55 | sussudio | his sister when to crackwhore uni |
| 15:10.03 | Penix | I read he studied meith lab managemant in harvard |
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| 15:10.06 | Penix | meth rather |
| 15:10.17 | izn0g | has anyone here successfully installed the 2.6.0-1-686-smp kernel-image package ? |
| 15:10.18 | Penix | sussudio: thought that was his daughter |
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| 15:10.35 | Penix | blah. way too many typos |
| 15:10.36 | tapas | hmm, how do i ut linebreaks into user defined headers in sylpheed? |
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| 15:10.43 | tapas | s/ut/put/ |
| 15:10.45 | Penix | drunk irc is not good |
| 15:10.47 | izn0g | it seems not bootable because the initrd is too big |
| 15:11.18 | g4lt | Penix it's tough to differentiate between siblings and progeny in that family... |
| 15:11.30 | Penix | well, they do come from the south |
| 15:11.32 | izn0g | I checked the /usr/share/doc generated hierarchy, but it's no good |
| 15:11.37 | sussudio | Penix: who would be better in "GAMP: The Movie", Prince of Tom Cruise? |
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| 15:11.46 | Penix | sussudio: Prince |
| 15:11.51 | Penix | Cruise is a dickhead |
| 15:11.59 | sussudio | little purple leprechaun |
| 15:12.11 | JimButton | streuner: ok, i found some article which claims that bush did harvard business school |
| 15:12.12 | g4lt | Penix wouldn't that be an advantabe in GAMP? ;P |
| 15:12.14 | Penix | Weeman from Jackass needs to be in it too |
| 15:12.25 | sussudio | how about vern troyer |
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| 15:12.29 | Penix | nah |
| 15:12.32 | Penix | too commercial |
| 15:12.37 | sussudio | and herve villechaize's corpe |
| 15:12.49 | Penix | gary coleman almost qualifies |
| 15:13.00 | sussudio | Ross Perot! |
| 15:13.04 | Penix | hah |
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| 15:13.26 | Penix | Perot can be a bum being beaten by Coleman's security guard character |
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| 15:14.50 | abrotman | what happened to steve forbes? |
| 15:14.50 | zu22 | lol |
| 15:15.01 | Penix | hopefully he's dead |
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| 15:15.09 | sussudio | abrotman: he was re-absorbed by the ground from which he came |
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| 15:15.19 | Penix | s/ground/anus/ |
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| 15:16.26 | asg | abrotman: still on Fox News Business^H^H^H^H^H^H^HPro Shrub |
| 15:16.36 | ishai | hmm |
| 15:16.50 | greycat | ishai: stop that. |
| 15:16.55 | zu22 | greetings weary traveller ElectricElf |
| 15:16.57 | streuner | %lart ishai |
| 15:17.02 | peterS | those reverse DDOSes are kind of funny |
| 15:17.05 | zu22 | ishai what u doing with that PING?? |
| 15:17.06 | sussudio | greycat: looks like it's banning time again for ishai/ElNooboStupido |
| 15:17.08 | gothtec | ishai: ctcp?! |
| 15:17.09 | greycat | zu22: he left |
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| 15:17.28 | JimButton | this is about the academic (non-)credentials of the shrub: http://www.prospect.org/print-friendly/webfeatures/2003/01/dreier-p-01-27.html |
| 15:17.28 | zu22 | doh i missed the elf again |
| 15:17.37 | JimButton | interesting read... |
| 15:17.54 | zlate | Where can i find information about administration of a webserver on debian? |
| 15:18.00 | xenohugs | dpkg moo |
| 15:18.00 | dpkg | xenohugs: I give up, what is it? |
| 15:18.04 | Penix | steve forbes and fox....perfect mix |
| 15:18.05 | sussudio | zlate: google? |
| 15:18.06 | greycat | zlate: apt-get install apache-doc |
| 15:18.17 | zlate | okey |
| 15:18.21 | zu22 | zlate: www.apache.org |
| 15:18.32 | JimButton | ~u |
| 15:18.34 | | somebody said u was the stupidest bastard. |
| 15:18.41 | sussudio | %u |
| 15:18.41 | bunnies | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1. |
| 15:18.47 | zu22 | steve forbes probably has a super hot wife cause his father left him $ billions |
| 15:18.55 | zlate | zu22: was there but didnt find anything about usersetup in linux |
| 15:19.07 | Penix | bill gates doesn't have a hot wife |
| 15:19.09 | greycat | zlate: "usersetup"?? wtf does that have to do with a web server? |
| 15:19.10 | tapas | fscking speech nazis ;) |
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| 15:19.21 | zu22 | penix: oh? i never saw her |
| 15:19.25 | JimButton | ~nazi |
| 15:19.26 | peterS | Penix: bill gates made his *own* billions. maybe that makes a difference |
| 15:19.33 | Penix | peterS: heh |
| 15:19.35 | zu22 | i wonder what type of pre-nup billy boy has |
| 15:19.36 | sussudio | tampon: you've just invoked godwin's law. leave now. |
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| 15:19.44 | greycat | peterS: in the same sense that billy the kid made his own money... |
| 15:19.49 | zlate | greycat: if not only me gonna use the webserver they need webaccounts ? |
| 15:19.52 | asg | sussudio: heh |
| 15:19.55 | Penix | maybe he pimps her to all the oems and suckers that bought a copy of Windows ME |
| 15:20.00 | streuner | greycat: haha |
| 15:20.04 | greycat | "webaccounts"? what planet are you from? |
| 15:20.06 | gnupg | ~hehstats |
| 15:20.07 | | total count of heh on #debian: 17293 |
| 15:20.10 | zu22 | peterS: ya by stealing other people's code and passing off poorly written software to the dumb masses, and scummy business practices, etc.. |
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| 15:20.23 | greycat | zu22: the american dream... |
| 15:20.32 | Penix | how else do you expect to get anywhere? |
| 15:20.37 | JimButton | zu22: that's the way to make money |
| 15:20.40 | zu22 | greycat: heh |
| 15:20.45 | sussudio | Penix: by bus? |
| 15:20.50 | peterS | zu22: irc is a great medium, isn't it? because it hides your facial expressions so we can't tell just how jealous of the guy you really are |
| 15:20.55 | JimButton | zu22: look at Xerox PARC, they never made money |
| 15:20.57 | zu22 | JimButton: "I wanna gets mines!!" hehe |
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| 15:21.16 | JimButton | zu22: you don't earn money by being nice and smart and having good ideas... |
| 15:21.18 | abrotman | JimButton: thats cause they spent it all on pot and lsd |
| 15:21.25 | JimButton | abrotman: lol |
| 15:21.25 | zu22 | peterS: sorry i don't live to make money |
| 15:21.26 | zlate | greycat: i need to know how to create account that only give access to there homedirectory so they can upload there webcontent and not foolaround on the rest of the server ? |
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| 15:21.40 | zu22 | JimButton: ya usually not |
| 15:21.40 | Penix | go live in russia then |
| 15:21.49 | abrotman | zlate: chroot? |
| 15:21.53 | greycat | zlate: upload how? ssh? ftp? |
| 15:21.56 | offby1 | zlate: define "fool around" |
| 15:22.00 | JimButton | Penix: you are somewhat late... |
| 15:22.01 | peterS | zu22: neither do I. but I don't spit on people who *are* able to make a lot of it, just because they've got more business acumen than I do |
| 15:22.01 | zophyx | you can be drunk all the time in rusia |
| 15:22.05 | zlate | greycat: ftp |
| 15:22.11 | asg | zophyx: you can here too |
| 15:22.13 | greycat | zlate: oh, trivial then! |
| 15:22.15 | g4lt | zophyx s/can/need to/ |
| 15:22.16 | zlate | offby1: fuckup the server :) |
| 15:22.17 | Penix | JimButton: wha? |
| 15:22.17 | JimButton | Penix: russia may be interesting for people who live for cheap booze, but otherwise... |
| 15:22.20 | zu22 | u go live in russia, i am an american even if greed and making money isn't an all consuming passion, what a disapointing capitalist i am :D |
| 15:22.23 | argonel | put up a sign "no fornicating on the webserver" |
| 15:22.27 | abrotman | /etc/ftponly |
| 15:22.34 | gnupg | JimButton - isn`t PARC just research? |
| 15:22.42 | abrotman | zlate: you sohuld really use scp |
| 15:22.42 | DelEat | what's the difference between a patch cable and a "regular" net cable? |
| 15:22.43 | JimButton | Penix: i can't think of a reason why anyone would move to russia... |
| 15:22.55 | Penix | JimButton: <zu22> peterS: sorry i don't live to make money |
| 15:22.57 | DelEat | JimButton: money? |
| 15:22.59 | zu22 | jimbutton: 3 words -> hot russian chix |
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| 15:23.01 | zophyx | for cheap russian booze |
| 15:23.01 | JimButton | gnupg: it was the Xerox research labs, yes, but Xerox was a commercial company |
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| 15:23.13 | greycat | zlate: install an FTP daemon (*blech*!) of choice, make a user account, and give them "/bin/ftponly" as a shell. Then put "/bin/ftponly" in /etc/shells so FTP will let them in. |
| 15:23.13 | offby1 | zlate: ordinary permissions ought to suffice to prevent damage. |
| 15:23.16 | streuner | DelEat: one of them is able to connect directly without using hubs or switches... |
| 15:23.23 | zophyx | cheap russian chix |
| 15:23.26 | abrotman | greycat: isn't it /etc/ftponly? |
| 15:23.28 | zu22 | Penix: move to columbia, they make lots of money and hurt lots of people in the process, u can fit right in |
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| 15:23.37 | greycat | abrotman: it can be /etc/abrotman if you prefer. It doesn't matter. |
| 15:23.39 | zu22 | the cali cartel needs some more hackers |
| 15:23.39 | Penix | you can get russian chicks by mail order though |
| 15:23.44 | ries | Hey guys/girls... I have a xeon processor in my server... what type should I select in the kernel config??? |
| 15:23.46 | JimButton | ok, (cheap|hot) russian chix might be a reason, too |
| 15:23.50 | gnupg | Hi linuxfreck |
| 15:23.51 | abrotman | i have my own shell! |
| 15:23.52 | greycat | abrotman: so long as it *doesn't actually exist* you're fine |
| 15:23.56 | JimButton | Penix: then you have to pay for S+H, too |
| 15:24.05 | peterS | ries: depends on the xeon. some are pentium II based, some are pentium III based, some are pentium 4 based |
| 15:24.07 | zophyx | there was a business in phoenix that imported russian women for mariage |
| 15:24.08 | Penix | probably cheaper than going to russia |
| 15:24.11 | DelEat | streuner: but if I've got this setup: LAN -1-> switch -2-> box, could I use a patch cable for either 1 or 2? |
| 15:24.15 | Penix | just stick her in a big cardboard box |
| 15:24.18 | zlate | greycat: ok, abrotman ment scp what is that? |
| 15:24.20 | zu22 | JimButton: and they divorce your ass soon as the marriage is legal and take 1/2 u own heh |
| 15:24.20 | zophyx | i forget what the website was |
| 15:24.22 | linuxfreck | hi gnupg, sup? |
| 15:24.30 | abrotman | zlate: its like a secure ftp |
| 15:24.36 | abrotman | encrypted etc |
| 15:24.38 | ries | peterS: Really???? It work's with PIII.... I'll keep it that way then... it's a Dell 1600SC |
| 15:24.38 | zlate | abrotman: ok |
| 15:24.43 | streuner | DelEat: i think the patched cables are for using it directly, not sure. |
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| 15:25.24 | streuner | DelEat: so the 'normal' onces is what you need |
| 15:25.28 | peterS | ries: I believe Intel used the terms "Pentium II Xeon" and "Pentium III Xeon" - so if your /proc/cpuinfo just calls itself a family 15 "Xeon", then it's pentium 4 based |
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| 15:26.01 | peterS | ries: meaning, "cpu family : 15" is a P4 Xeon, "cpu family : 6" is a P II or P III Xeon |
| 15:26.03 | zophyx | http://www.alena-marriage-agency.com/ |
| 15:26.41 | DelEat | streuner: but on the LAN side is still a switch - so I'm using it switch -> switch |
| 15:26.47 | asuffield | scp is like secure rcp (and is basically crap, being rather slow). sftp is the ftp-equivalent, and rsync-over-ssh is the fast way |
| 15:26.54 | Penix | what's with the whole xeon thing anyway. wtf's the advantage. hundreds of dollars more for a p4 xeon with a slower bus and same amount of cache |
| 15:26.58 | ries | peterS: it say's indeed family 15, model name Xeon CPU 2.4Ghz... |
| 15:27.11 | De_Mon | ... rsync-over-ssh is fast? |
| 15:27.13 | v0m1t | How can I make term title display running process? (IE. irssi from xterm would show network and channel info... wget will show percent completed etc..) |
| 15:27.14 | zophyx | http://www.loveme.com/ |
| 15:27.15 | greycat | Penix: it has an "X" in it. |
| 15:27.16 | zophyx | go for it |
| 15:27.19 | Penix | heh |
| 15:27.20 | offby1 | asuffield: rsync-over-ssh is really faster than scp? If so, why? |
| 15:27.20 | zu22 | zophx: "100% Satisfaction Guaranty or money back." haha |
| 15:27.28 | asuffield | offby1: vastly, and because scp is crap |
| 15:27.28 | peterS | ries: you can't clock a Pentium III that high. even without the 'family 15' part, that tells you it's a Pentium 4 based Xeon |
| 15:27.33 | Yahya | how do I mount my secondary slave and make it so I can just click on a file for it to happen. |
| 15:27.53 | greycat | Yahya: huh? |
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| 15:27.58 | asuffield | if you're shifting large files, rsync comes out a fair bit faster. if you're shifting large numbers of small files, rsync is orders-of-magnitude faster |
| 15:28.03 | offby1 | asuffield: ignoring the fact that rsync can sometimes save time by noticing that a file is already present on the target, why would it be faster? |
| 15:28.13 | asuffield | offby1: because scp is grossly inefficient |
| 15:28.19 | ries | peterS: O cool...didn't know that.... |
| 15:28.28 | offby1 | asuffield: is that inefficiency something that could reasonably be fixed? |
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| 15:28.47 | peterS | offby1: no point fixing the scp protocol - the sftp protocol is better anyway |
| 15:28.53 | asuffield | offby1: in the sense that scp could be reimplemented correctly, yes. in the sense that the openssh implementation of scp could be debugged, no |
| 15:29.01 | asuffield | note that cat-over-ssh is faster than scp, too |
| 15:29.06 | offby1 | asuffield: that's disappointing |
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| 15:29.24 | asuffield | no point anyway, because you can just use rsync or sftp |
| 15:29.27 | Penix | am I the only one that finds it slightly wrong that someone can own a 2.4ghz Xeon without knowing anything about it... |
| 15:29.36 | peterS | Penix: heh, no you're not the only one |
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| 15:29.41 | asuffield | there's damn little difference between the interface to scp and rsync |
| 15:29.42 | JimButton | asuffield: but for rsync or sftp you need a server running, no? |
| 15:29.43 | offby1 | asuffield: I tend to scp to or from Cygwin boxes, and last I checked rsync didn't work on Cygwin :( |
| 15:29.45 | sussudio | Penix: depends if it's "fallen off a truck" |
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| 15:29.50 | Penix | heh |
| 15:29.58 | asuffield | JimButton: no. rsync runs over pure ssh. it just needs the rsync binary on the target |
| 15:30.03 | peterS | asuffield: scp --help spews out significantly less than 6 pages |
| 15:30.07 | ries | peterS: I'll tell you in a few minutes if it worked with P4 er not... :) it's compiling now... |
| 15:30.12 | JimButton | asuffield: ok, sounds good |
| 15:30.14 | offby1 | JimButton: actually you don't need a server for rsync; the ssh client will start it for you (I think) |
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| 15:30.28 | De_Mon | Penix naw, just like people who one water cooled systems dont build them themselves |
| 15:30.28 | asuffield | JimButton: it's anonymous rsync that needs a server (and that's unencrypted) |
| 15:30.56 | sussudio | note: connecting wrong wires to AT powerswitch generates strange crackling noises |
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| 15:30.57 | De_Mon | s/one/own/ |
| 15:30.59 | peterS | JimButton: rsync can run *either* over ssh, in which case you just need a ssh server at the other end, *or* over its own transport, in which case you need an rsyncd at the other end (probably launched from inetd) |
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| 15:31.02 | user__ | Are there debs for gimp 2 yet? |
| 15:31.07 | offby1 | sussudio: crackling noises OK, do not correct! |
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| 15:31.20 | Penix | when was 2.0 released? |
| 15:31.32 | asuffield | peterS: rsync does more than scp, yes. it does everything that scp does, and with almost identical argument conventions |
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| 15:32.36 | Penix | ~test |
| 15:32.38 | | Failed |
| 15:32.40 | g4lt | djw should've gotten an ag phone ;P |
| 15:32.49 | zophyx | ~ping |
| 15:32.51 | | pong |
| 15:33.08 | tstm | Good evening. Does someone here know (or have) where I could obtain a debootstrap rpm for woody? Every link to the rpm is to blade's debian-page which doesent contain it anymore. Help would be greatly appreciated. |
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| 15:33.33 | g4lt | tstm alien it FFS |
| 15:33.42 | druidh | hi |
| 15:33.51 | user__ | Penix slashdot mentions it now... |
| 15:33.54 | user__ | not final though |
| 15:33.57 | sgeigerbot | Penix: 2.0pre1 is what is on gimp.org now... |
| 15:33.59 | abrotman | Penix: gimp2 was released yesterday or something like that |
| 15:34.09 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: where's the link? |
| 15:34.17 | Penix | it's not final though. use the 1.3 debs |
| 15:34.19 | druidh | i have problem upgrading my sid, and i think it's because debconf it's not configured |
| 15:34.26 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: eek .. read slashdot :) |
| 15:34.28 | druidh | can someone help me? |
| 15:34.35 | mentor | "A debootstrap rpm for Woody"? |
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| 15:34.38 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: T/hat's for nerds. |
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| 15:35.08 | abrotman | and the download section of gimp.org got shut off |
| 15:35.16 | abrotman | doh .. there it is |
| 15:35.21 | druidh | i try dpkg --configure debconf but i get error |
| 15:35.31 | isaac_ | why does my clock constantly slow down under 2.6? |
| 15:35.35 | Penix | druidh: dpkg-reconfigure |
| 15:35.39 | isaac_ | i can set it, and within 8 hours it'll be 2 hours behind |
| 15:35.46 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: Ah, that could be why their site's graphics aren't loading on my browser. ;-) They are bogged down. |
| 15:35.53 | tstm | g4lt: Hmm. I'll do that. Thank you! =) |
| 15:35.57 | greycat | isaac_: and this didn't occur in 2.4? |
| 15:35.58 | abrotman | i only see pre1 also |
| 15:35.58 | streuner | druidh: /j #flood |
| 15:35.59 | sussudio | abrotman: you're not the smartest, are you? "First Preview of GIMP 2.0 Ready for Testing" where exactly does it say release? |
| 15:35.59 | abrotman | dunon |
| 15:36.01 | Penix | because you're using that there fancy 2.6 pos |
| 15:36.05 | abrotman | damnit |
| 15:36.05 | isaac_ | greycat: nope. |
| 15:36.07 | abrotman | i read it |
| 15:36.12 | abrotman | i thought it said it was released |
| 15:36.13 | offby1 | isaac_: this doesn't answer your question, but have you considered using NTP? It might force the clock to stay accurate |
| 15:36.17 | sgeigerbot | Penix: If you don't have gimp 1.3 yet, then you will see some huge changes. That program rocks now. |
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| 15:36.21 | sussudio | abrotman: stop sniffing the glue |
| 15:36.27 | Penix | sgeigerbot: been using 1.3 for ages |
| 15:36.27 | abrotman | it was lsd iirc |
| 15:36.35 | druidh | Penix: "debconf it's broken or not fully install" :S |
| 15:36.38 | isaac_ | offby1: i've been meaning to do that, but i'd rather fix it :) |
| 15:36.42 | djw | g4lt: actually I might auphone, part of the nas-bin package |
| 15:36.58 | streuner | druidh: show me the error in #flood |
| 15:37.03 | offby1 | isaac_: I understand. But even if it's fixed, it'll still drift a bit, since computer clocks simply aren't particularly accurate. |
| 15:37.17 | isaac_ | offby1: i don't mind if it drifts just a little, but this is terrible |
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| 15:37.41 | druidh | streuner: ok |
| 15:37.47 | offby1 | isaac_: well, I have no help; I haven't yet tried 2.6 and wouldn't know why it would affect your clock anyway. |
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| 15:38.07 | isaac_ | offby1: thanks anyways :D |
| 15:38.43 | jamey | Anyone try installing debian on a Dell PowerEdge 600SC? |
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| 15:39.58 | sussudio | ~tell jamey about polls |
| 15:40.02 | Yahya | How do i make my own file for mounting Drive |
| 15:40.04 | Yahya | drives |
| 15:40.24 | greycat | Yahya: disk drive? CD-ROM? |
| 15:40.26 | abrotman | Yahya: you mean a mount point? |
| 15:40.43 | Yahya | yes |
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| 15:40.52 | offby1 | Yahya: mkdir |
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| 15:41.02 | jamey | ok sorry first time here, so if I wanted to know if debian can be successfully installed on that system where else could I go for an answer. |
| 15:41.14 | abrotman | jamey: google? |
| 15:41.33 | ozfrog | Hi floppy boot of 2.4.24 can't find the root/boot sector on /dev/hdc2 - finds "" - how to pass this info to the boot sequence - please |
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| 15:41.37 | Yahya | is it mkdir mount -t vfat /dev/hdc /dev/hda2 ? |
| 15:41.44 | abrotman | eep |
| 15:41.59 | g4lt | I hear that this nice place called "empirical evidence" works as well... |
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| 15:42.03 | offby1 | Yahya: no, it's more like `mkdir /mnt/foo', then `mount -t vfat /dev/hdc /mnt/foo' |
| 15:42.12 | greycat | Yahya: mkdir /foo; mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /foo |
| 15:42.12 | streuner | druidh: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=225384 , read what it says (carefully) |
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| 15:42.12 | tempo | i would like to backup data from a windows server to a linux box. what do i have to install on the windows server in order for them to communicate? |
| 15:42.13 | sphinx[x] | hi al |
| 15:42.17 | greycat | Yahya: is it hda2 or is it hdc? Pick one! |
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| 15:42.37 | abrotman | Yahya: you're trying to mount your windows stuff? |
| 15:42.42 | greycat | offby1: except, we didn't. |
| 15:42.47 | De_Mon | mnt/foo is better |
| 15:42.49 | offby1 | well, close enough |
| 15:42.56 | offby1 | tempo: you have many options. |
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| 15:43.06 | Yodds | I removed apache and installed it again, but this time it has installed without a .pid file, any suggestions |
| 15:43.10 | Yahya | yes abrotman |
| 15:43.19 | De_Mon | Yahya pid stands for... process ID |
| 15:43.20 | offby1 | Yodds: suggestions about what? |
| 15:43.22 | greycat | Yodds: PID files are created during startup |
| 15:43.25 | g4lt | Yodds start it, you'll get a .pid file |
| 15:43.39 | tempo | offby1: give me some of the option and ones you feel that are solid |
| 15:43.40 | abrotman | Yahya: most likely ... mkdir /mnt/dos;mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /mnt/dos |
| 15:43.41 | ozfrog | process identification number ?? |
| 15:43.42 | Yodds | ok I'll restart it |
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| 15:44.05 | tempo | offby1: i want to create daily images of a database located on the windows server |
| 15:44.05 | offby1 | tempo: ssh with scp (or rsync, if it works on Windows; I can't remember); also samba |
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| 15:44.19 | offby1 | tempo: presumably the database has a backup script |
| 15:44.22 | De_Mon | Yahell just use ftp |
| 15:44.46 | De_Mon | just hell |
| 15:44.56 | druidh | streuner: thanks very much |
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| 15:45.05 | streuner | druidh: welcome. |
| 15:45.16 | dasenjo | hi to all! |
| 15:45.22 | offby1 | bye to none |
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| 15:45.55 | dasenjo | I have a problem with my apt .. I installed slapd and now I want to remove it |
| 15:46.01 | sphinx[x] | anyone that know where to get 486emu patch for kernel source |
| 15:46.19 | g4lt | dasenjo what's so hard about apt-get --purge remove? |
| 15:46.37 | g4ivan | Last night I used jigdo for the first time. When Nero wrote the image (Woody CD 1) it used Joliet as the file system. I was able to boot off the CD no prob, but should I have changed filesystem to iso9660? |
| 15:46.42 | xace | Where can I download flash for konqueror? |
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| 15:47.00 | CrazyDrew | jamey: Are you around? |
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| 15:47.34 | dasenjo | g4lt: Im new in Debian ... why --purge ? |
| 15:47.41 | CrazyDrew | Open Question: On the 2215, why does the power to the NAND Flash Controller get turned off after about four seconds? |
| 15:47.45 | g4lt | dasenjo RTFM |
| 15:48.03 | Yodds | ok, its working....I still need to fix that annoying folder problem with apache tho |
| 15:48.18 | streuner | druidh: You found a solution to fix it? |
| 15:48.31 | lilwip | man apt-get |
| 15:48.36 | g4ivan | xace: hang on let me check |
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| 15:49.37 | druidh | streuner: i'am trying what the mail says: remove the module |
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| 15:49.54 | streuner | druidh: yep |
| 15:50.04 | druidh | streuner: but the problem it's that he didn't says what module is |
| 15:50.06 | druidh | :S |
| 15:50.13 | devote | how do I search every file in a directory for a certain string ? |
| 15:50.14 | streuner | druidh: true :-) |
| 15:50.28 | lilwip | dasenjo: man apt-get | grep purge |
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| 15:50.34 | greycat | devote: grep string * |
| 15:50.37 | ozfrog | Hi floppy boot of 2.4.24 can't find the root/boot sector on /dev/hdc2 - finds "" - how to pass this info to the boot sequence - please |
| 15:50.41 | xace | g4ivan: ok |
| 15:50.46 | offby1 | devote: are you kidding? find dir -type f | xargs grep whatever |
| 15:50.47 | Yodds | is it just me or do I have to add a / at the end of a folder http path on apache or it doesnt load |
| 15:50.55 | g4lt | lilwip I think I said htat ;P |
| 15:51.00 | greycat | offby1: he didn't specify recursion |
| 15:51.11 | greycat | offby1: and there's "grep -r" now :) |
| 15:51.26 | greycat | Yodds: yes, you need to have proper URLs. |
| 15:51.26 | noseman | how i copy a diskette image to the floppy? |
| 15:51.32 | offby1 | greycat: I knew there was some such option but couldn't bring up the man page quickly enough :) |
| 15:51.39 | greycat | Yodds: FYI, turning off "use canonical name" will help in 90% of such cases... |
| 15:51.42 | sussudio | noseman: dd if=/dev/fd0 of=imagename |
| 15:51.42 | offby1 | noseman: dd |
| 15:51.56 | greycat | noseman: cp works too |
| 15:52.07 | g4lt | noseman cant imagename > /dev/fd0 |
| 15:52.10 | noseman | thx |
| 15:52.10 | greycat | sussudio: that's reversed. He said *to* the floppy. |
| 15:52.11 | g4lt | noseman cat imagename > /dev/fd0 |
| 15:52.15 | lilwip | g4lt, dasenjo admitted to being new to deb. |
| 15:52.17 | lilwip | heh |
| 15:52.17 | greycat | cp imagename /dev/fd0 |
| 15:52.33 | uws | NO! |
| 15:52.35 | uws | man mount :) |
| 15:52.38 | g4ivan | xace: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree installs it for mozilla, I don't know if it will do it for Konqueror. |
| 15:52.40 | uws | oh sorry |
| 15:52.45 | sussudio | ~seen rahul |
| 15:52.45 | | rahul <rjain@66-234-32-164.nyc.cable.nyct.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 2d 9h 30m 20s ago, saying: 'balzac: yep'. |
| 15:52.46 | noseman | english is not my native language |
| 15:52.47 | uws | didn't get the correct "image" association |
| 15:52.54 | Yodds | greycat: so when I type http://localhost/webalizer it wont hang like at the moment I have to type http://localhost/webalizer/ |
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| 15:53.50 | greycat | Yodds: when you type "http://localhost/webalizer" and webalizer is a directory, Apache MUST REWRITE THE URL because it's incorrect. If you have the (default) UseCanonicalName (sp?) option enabled, it rewrites it to "http://my.fully.qualified.name/webalizer/" instead of "http://localhost/webalizer/". |
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| 15:54.12 | streuner | druidh: just a wild guess, postinst script run all compile process in order anything would fail, so if you comment each module seperatly it might work. |
| 15:54.42 | Yodds | I used localhost as an example, but it still dont work |
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| 15:54.52 | greycat | Yodds: bullshit. |
| 15:55.04 | greycat | ~don't work |
| 15:55.09 | | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 15:55.09 | Yodds | eg: http://yodds.net/usage & http://yodds.net/usage/ |
| 15:55.16 | dasenjo | g4lt: Sorry .. I back .. |
| 15:55.29 | uws | Doesn't this have to do with a trailing / in the virtual host section of the apache .conf file? |
| 15:55.43 | dasenjo | g4lt: I still having an error with apt-get --purge |
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| 15:55.50 | uws | dasenjo: apt-get remove --purge |
| 15:55.54 | uws | dasenjo: OR dpkg --purge |
| 15:55.59 | pure^away | Hi, how can I determine the source of a package after it is installed? |
| 15:56.03 | uws | dasenjo: Pick one (I'd suggest you use the first) |
| 15:56.10 | uws | pure^away: apt-cache show package |
| 15:56.16 | uws | pure^away: |grep ^Source |
| 15:56.21 | lilwip | dasenjo: apt-get *filename* remove --purge |
| 15:56.23 | dasenjo | Im trying but there is an strange error .. |
| 15:56.26 | druidh | streuner: sorry for my bad english, but what do you mind? remove postint script? |
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| 15:56.47 | dasenjo | eal: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 15:56.54 | greycat | Yodds: http://yodds.net/usage gives me a frameset which points to http://ywh.serveftp.com/usage |
| 15:57.09 | pure^away | uws: I get no output 8( |
| 15:57.29 | uws | pure^away: Where did you get the pacakge from? |
| 15:57.34 | streuner | druidh: the error is in postinst script right? So, i think you just comment 1 module then the next and then the next |
| 15:57.36 | uws | pure^away: Do you know the package name or do you know the binary name? |
| 15:57.40 | greycat | Yodds: http://ywh.serveftp.com/usage gives me a proper-looking redirect to http://ywh.serveftp.com/usage/ |
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| 15:57.45 | greycat | Yodds: I do not see what the problem is |
| 15:57.53 | druidh | streuner: ummm, ok ;) |
| 15:58.04 | streuner | druidh: until you got the module which failed to compile |
| 15:58.11 | druidh | streuner: and a leech question: where is that script? |
| 15:58.13 | Yodds | greycat: so its working.... but did it work for the .net |
| 15:58.16 | pure^away | uws: That is what I want to determine =) I installed a backport and now need the source because I need another package from this source. I installed cyrus21-sasl from it and now need a postfix that is linked agains libsasl2 |
| 15:58.27 | streuner | druidh: /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
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| 15:58.49 | streuner | druidh: look for debconf*.postinst |
| 15:58.51 | druidh | ok,thx ;) |
| 15:59.03 | uws | Prophet_: dpkg -l pacakge, maybe the version is tagged |
| 15:59.07 | greycat | Yodds: I can't parse your question. Are you talking about Microsoft .NET? |
| 15:59.38 | Yodds | sorry, the http://yodds.net name does http://yodds.net/usage load? |
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| 15:59.58 | uws | yes, it does, Yodds |
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| 16:00.24 | streuner | druidh: it is at the bottom of the file |
| 16:00.31 | dasenjo | lilwip: what means the Error Code 1 |
| 16:00.31 | Yodds | its not working for me over the network |
| 16:00.43 | greycat | Yodds: then you have an issue with something other than apache here |
| 16:00.49 | greycat | Yodds: do it by hand with telnet |
| 16:00.58 | druidh | streuner: yea,i just have see it ;) |
| 16:00.59 | lilwip | dasenjo, how much HD space you got free? |
| 16:01.15 | dasenjo | so much |
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| 16:01.31 | ozfrog | Hi floppy boot of 2.4.24 can't find the root/boot sector on /dev/hdc2 - finds "" - how to pass this info to the boot sequence - please |
| 16:02.01 | ries | peterS: Just wanted to inform you that the new kernel (2.4.24) runs on my pe 1600sc :) thanks! |
| 16:02.02 | greycat | ozfrog: if nobody answers, it's because your question makes no god-damned sense. |
| 16:02.02 | dasenjo | I was configuring an LDAP server .. but I think I damaged the package and I dont know how t remove it |
| 16:02.09 | Yodds | greycat: you see we have a stupid windows machine that allows connections through, but the server is behind, I have to access the server with network IP addresses |
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| 16:02.33 | druidh | streuner: thx very much again, apt is now running again XD |
| 16:03.02 | streuner | druidh: ok |
| 16:03.04 | druidh | streuner: i had only to comment all the lines added by python |
| 16:03.29 | greycat | Yodds: well, the *easiest* solution would be to fix your HTML! Use the trailing slash on the A HREF and you should be better. |
| 16:03.36 | streuner | druidh: well, uncomment it again... |
| 16:03.52 | hyksos | how can i watch .swf shockwave flash files directly? |
| 16:03.53 | dasenjo | lilwip: I have so much free space in my HD (more than 10G). I was configuring an LDAP server .. but I think I damaged the package and I dont know how t remove it |
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| 16:04.08 | greycat | forcing web servers to issue redirects and forcing clients to issue a second HTML GET request just because you're too fucking lazy/stupid to put trailing slashes on your URLs is a crime. |
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| 16:04.35 | Yodds | greycat: That would be best, its only affecting me at home on the network, compared with several on the net |
| 16:04.46 | druidh | uppsss,thx, i forgot it !!!!!!!!! |
| 16:04.47 | peterS | greycat: apache should really teergrube people who do that |
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| 16:05.14 | peterS | greycat: not for a long time. just, like, 30 seconds of delay. maybe people would start to get the hint eventually |
| 16:05.17 | greycat | peterS: DJGPP used to have a lovely rant page if you omitted the trailing slash, but it's gone now :( |
| 16:05.20 | lilwip | dasenjo: what LDAP package? |
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| 16:05.56 | dasenjo | lilwip: slapd .. I need a version newer than 2.1.21 .. |
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| 16:06.22 | Sputnikc | did anyone have this problem : when switching to a 2.6.0 kernel, my dhclient won't get an ip-adres anymore (neither will dhclient3) and i'm not sure why.. settings in kernel are good interface is up but not getting a reply from the dhcp-server on the lan |
| 16:06.36 | Sputnikc | this happens in sarge or woody.. doesn't matter |
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| 16:07.08 | lilwip | dasenjo: and apt-get slapd remove --purge is giving you an error(1)? |
| 16:07.09 | streuner | Sputnikc: for woody you need an backport (dhcp-client) /msg apt simple sid backport |
| 16:07.15 | wpg_guard | If I've got an internal network and an external network, is there any reason why IPX would be favouring the external interface? |
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| 16:07.31 | peterS | !wb |
| 16:07.35 | dpkg | thanks, peters. It's good to be back. |
| 16:07.36 | peterS | !status |
| 16:07.37 | dpkg | Since Thu Jan 8 15:57:33 2004, there have been 0 modifications, 2 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands. I have been awake for 10m 3s this session, and currently reference 22899 factoids. I'm using about 15260 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 3.67/0.15 child 0/0 |
| 16:07.41 | peterS | good |
| 16:07.43 | occy | I have two machines of exact hardware. Dell PE1750's. (Debian 3.0 stable is on the one I want to clone) I want to take the 1 server and do an exact clone of it, and dump it over to the other box... anyone know how to do that? |
| 16:07.43 | streuner | Sputnikc: visit also apt-get.org and get newer debhelper version (bunk) |
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| 16:07.58 | De_Mon | greycat WTF? computers were designed because people were too fucking lazy to do stuff them selves. |
| 16:08.35 | g4ivan | how can I get a package description from apt. I want to be able to do a dpkg-deb -W flashplugin-nonfree without having to visit APT's repository and figure out the exact name of the package. |
| 16:08.35 | dasenjo | lilwip: apt-get remove --purge slapd is giving me an error code 1 |
| 16:08.38 | argonel | the same could be said of ladders |
| 16:08.42 | De_Mon | too lazy to write neat? use a computer. cant do math in your head, use a computer. cant draw? use a computer.. cant think, use windows.. |
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| 16:08.49 | offby1 | g4ivan: apt-cache show |
| 16:08.57 | offby1 | g4ivan: apt-cache show flashplugin-nonfree |
| 16:09.03 | greycat | De_Mon: it's a shameless waste of bandwidth and CPU cycles. It can be overcome by following the fucking standards and putting ONE GOD DAMNED BYTE in the HTML document. |
| 16:09.06 | offby1 | g4ivan: first, of course, you must install apt-cache. |
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| 16:09.19 | De_Mon | greycat ask they lazy person if they agree with you |
| 16:09.23 | lilwip | apt-get slapd remove --fix-broken |
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| 16:10.41 | dasenjo | dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 |
| 16:10.41 | dpkg | You are moron #1, dasenjo |
| 16:11.01 | g4ivan | offby1: thx, |
| 16:11.02 | dasenjo | moron #1 ... ? |
| 16:11.06 | streuner | dasenjo: which pkg? |
| 16:11.06 | dasenjo | I dont understand |
| 16:11.18 | dasenjo | slapd |
| 16:11.34 | streuner | dasenjo: ok, /msg apt bts |
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| 16:12.17 | streuner | !bts |
| 16:12.18 | dpkg | from memory, bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts, too |
| 16:12.37 | wpg_guard | Why does IPX configure my eth1 with EtherII, SNAP, 802.2, and 802.3, but only configures eth0 with 802.3 (and the address doesn't look complete)? |
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| 16:12.56 | dasenjo | but I dont think that there is a bug ... |
| 16:13.09 | lilwip | dasenjo: try --fix-broken first |
| 16:13.19 | AntiX | if one is running an SMP kernel in woody - can one get top to show CPU0 and CPU1? |
| 16:13.20 | dasenjo | I damaged the package .. |
| 16:13.30 | dasenjo | I tried --fix-broken |
| 16:13.31 | AntiX | I cannot find the friggin option! |
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| 16:14.07 | kozo | Hi all |
| 16:14.12 | g4ivan | offby1: And the person I was doing all this for has left the channel |
| 16:14.25 | abrotman | AntiX: the top in debian doesn't show that |
| 16:14.28 | abrotman | iirc |
| 16:14.38 | kozo | Can u help me ? I've probem with installing debian (plz msg me) |
| 16:14.38 | AntiX | POO!! |
| 16:14.48 | abrotman | AntiX: maybe atop can .. dont remember |
| 16:14.52 | streuner | ~msg me |
| 16:14.54 | | Nobody is going to /msg you. |
| 16:15.01 | kozo | ok |
| 16:15.09 | kozo | So can I write here ? |
| 16:15.11 | streuner | kozo: /msg dpkg ig |
| 16:15.14 | streuner | of course |
| 16:15.18 | AntiX | the top in sarge does it |
| 16:15.23 | AntiX | not in woody |
| 16:15.28 | abrotman | i tihnk thats right |
| 16:15.34 | AntiX | i love woody oh so much though |
| 16:15.40 | kozo | I've just installed Debian 3r2 on my computer |
| 16:15.46 | AntiX | me too |
| 16:15.51 | De_Mon | Grrr.. I cant keep 'communative' and 'associative' properties straight |
| 16:15.59 | offby1 | ~tell kozo about ask |
| 16:16.01 | De_Mon | cant spell them either |
| 16:16.17 | argonel | greycat: "<greycat> DJGPP used to have a lovely rant" so thats where that was! did it only come up when the trailing slash was omitted? |
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| 16:16.22 | kozo | And after reboot : ide2: unexpected interrupt, status=0xd0, count=b |
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| 16:16.40 | dasenjo | Can I paste the complete output of the command ? |
| 16:16.48 | abrotman | dasenjo: #flood |
| 16:16.57 | argonel | i.e. wasn't anywhere else on the site |
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| 16:17.06 | streuner | kozo: what do you get, if you reboot again? |
| 16:17.17 | kozo | streuner : the same |
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| 16:17.41 | kozo | streuner : system started but this messages are nonstop |
| 16:17.55 | AntiX | I wonder if I can get celestia working... |
| 16:18.03 | kozo | streuner : Is it cause my SATA HDD ? |
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| 16:18.13 | Yodds | ok...installed phpmyadmin, where the heck has it gone to and how do I access it?? |
| 16:18.19 | abrotman | AntiX: you could maybe instal procps from sarge? |
| 16:18.26 | pitor | Anybody know why I get such low sound volume when I upgraded to Sarge? I can't get it to save with volume level either (with aumix). |
| 16:18.31 | AntiX | I have to say it was a collossal pain in the ass figuring out the numerous and various problems with my irq's |
| 16:18.42 | AntiX | abrotman - will that change top ? |
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| 16:18.50 | dasenjo | I pasted the output of the command in the #flood channel .. |
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| 16:18.59 | abrotman | AntiX: only if the top in sarge does what you want :) |
| 16:19.04 | De_Mon | Yodds look in /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin/ |
| 16:19.05 | ElNooboStupido | it does! |
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| 16:19.28 | ElNooboStupido | when I did apt-get install top with bunks site it was updating a ton of packages |
| 16:19.33 | ElNooboStupido | all I want is ONE |
| 16:19.38 | De_Mon | Yodds specifically README.Debian or README |
| 16:19.39 | glaure | hi! has anyone a idea howto create /dev/shm ? |
| 16:19.42 | dasenjo | lilwip: did you see the output ? |
| 16:19.45 | ElNooboStupido | whatever it takes to get dual-cpu readout on top |
| 16:19.47 | kozo | Can anybody help with : ide2: unexpected interrupt, status=0xd0, count=234 |
| 16:19.54 | ElNooboStupido | I dont know why but I get my kicks watching it |
| 16:20.00 | abrotman | ElNooboStupido: maybe checkout atop .. but i dont remember |
| 16:20.16 | ElNooboStupido | abrotman im pretty sure bunks procps should do it |
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| 16:20.26 | lewis | hey all, I am trying to setup domain aliases in exim4... I have added three lines after 'begin routers' in exim4.conf and made a file with e-mail_address:user_to_go_to |
| 16:20.28 | ElNooboStupido | its a sarge pkg compiled for woody |
| 16:20.29 | offby1 | glaure: _creating_ /dev/shm is probably as easy as running MAKEDEV. But getting it to do anything useful might require rebuilding your kernel, or loading a module. |
| 16:20.29 | streuner | kozo: yep prolly |
| 16:20.36 | abrotman | ElNooboStupido: but thats a core package iirc .. so it will update lots of stuff |
| 16:20.38 | lewis | the lines I'll paste in #flood |
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| 16:20.51 | ElNooboStupido | abrotman - excrement. :( |
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| 16:21.04 | lilwip | dasenjo: nope, not in flood |
| 16:21.07 | lilwip | sorry |
| 16:21.12 | streuner | kozo: /msg dpkg sata |
| 16:21.13 | glaure | quit |
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| 16:21.25 | ElNooboStupido | what is the apt-get command just to see what upgrades are available? |
| 16:21.44 | streuner | apt, sata is You'll need Jeff Garzik's libata patch for Serial ATA support, about which see http://lwn.net/Articles/52488/ . If you need that in your installer, see http://oregonstate.edu/~kveton/debian/ on how to craft your own netinst with a homemade custom kernel. If that seems like a lot of trouble, it's price you pay for using bleeding-edge hardware. ("You can tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs."), or <Reply> more evil |
| 16:21.46 | | streuner: okay |
| 16:21.46 | streuner | atan |
| 16:21.50 | dasenjo | lilwip: It is still in flood .. watch ot out please .. |
| 16:21.59 | abrotman | ElNooboStupido: apt-get -u upgrade? |
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| 16:22.10 | ElNooboStupido | thanks |
| 16:22.24 | kozo | streuner : Thanx |
| 16:22.43 | streuner | kozo: good luck |
| 16:22.52 | Yodds | De_Mon: Damn thing hasnt installed properly! |
| 16:22.55 | ElNooboStupido | abrotman I just want to see what updates are available for procps |
| 16:22.57 | lilwip | dasenjo: resend it to flood, I wasn't in that channel |
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| 16:23.29 | abrotman | ElNooboStupido: dunno .. apt-get -u will show what is going to be upgraded |
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| 16:23.43 | De_Mon | Yodds what makes you say that? |
| 16:23.49 | offby1 | ElNooboStupido: procps is probably part of the kernel |
| 16:23.55 | Yodds | lol, its not loading |
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| 16:24.05 | offby1 | ElNooboStupido: ignore that last; it's wrong. |
| 16:24.07 | streuner | kozo: another solution might be /msg dpkg di or/and /msg dpkg d-i backup |
| 16:24.09 | De_Mon | Yodds maybe its you whos not working correctly |
| 16:24.09 | abrotman | ~info procps woody |
| 16:24.31 | De_Mon | Yodds a better answer would be 'i tried <this> and its not loading' |
| 16:24.33 | deckrider | I'm installing Debian Woody on a laptop. With GDM Login Screen there is System | Suspend. When I select that, it seems to exit GDM, which is not the behavior I expected, because when it resumes, there is no more GDM. Any ideas to fix? |
| 16:24.42 | De_Mon | or and it does 'this' instead |
| 16:24.42 | abrotman | ~find usr/bin/top woody |
| 16:24.51 | offby1 | ElNooboStupido: if you're running stable, I think it's always safe to simply do apt-get update; apt-get upgrade. |
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| 16:25.10 | Yodds | De_Mon: I tried to access it over the network, then over ssh using lynx |
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| 16:25.22 | dasenjo | lilwip: ok .. did you get it ? |
| 16:25.37 | Switi | Hi, anyone an idea howto create a /dev/shm node? (kernel 2.6) |
| 16:25.45 | De_Mon | Yodds is apache even running? |
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| 16:26.00 | offby1 | Switi: /sbin/MAKEDEV ? |
| 16:26.02 | lilwip | dasenjo: look to see if slapd process is running |
| 16:26.04 | Yodds | De_Mon: Pretty sure |
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| 16:26.25 | Switi | MAKEDEV does not know about /dev/shm ... |
| 16:26.27 | De_Mon | Yodds i'd have for you to reformat because you were 'pretty sure' |
| 16:26.53 | lilwip | dasenjo: if it is, kill it and try the remove again |
| 16:27.47 | dasenjo | lilwip: no, it is not running |
| 16:28.03 | Yodds | De_Mon: Hang about....its working now...restarted apache and it seems to have set in! |
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| 16:28.24 | De_Mon | Yodds grats, well done. |
| 16:28.26 | lewis | can anyone help me setup aliases with domains for exim4? (might be known as virtual domains) |
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| 16:28.38 | lewis | i want foobar@bar.com to go to foo@bar.com |
| 16:28.47 | lilwip | dasenjo: try running the daemon in Debug mode like via "slapd -d 16383" |
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| 16:29.22 | lilwip | and check your syslog for more info /var/log/syslog |
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| 16:29.43 | bowman | still having trouble with german keyboard layout - any hints on how to configure it correctly? |
| 16:30.00 | lilwip | I gotta get back to work :) |
| 16:30.04 | Yodds | De_Mon: Ok, so where is the config.inc.php file? |
| 16:30.08 | clinfix | apt-get install mozilla-firebirdü,does it exist,i cant find the true name |
| 16:30.09 | lilwip | have a good day |
| 16:30.22 | De_Mon | Yodds ? |
| 16:30.39 | afkLiLwIp | clear |
| 16:30.40 | offby1 | clinfix: get rid of the last character -- the U with the umlaut |
| 16:30.51 | offby1 | clinfix: use `apt-cache search' to find the true name |
| 16:30.57 | Yodds | De_Mon: the config file for the phpmyadmin |
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| 16:31.21 | knoppix | how do i disable splash screen ? Option "NoLogo" "boolean".were in the config file do i put it ? what values should i use ? |
| 16:31.25 | dasenjo | lilwip: there is a problem with the database type (ldbm) I think is a compilation problem .. |
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| 16:32.02 | knoppix | nvidia driver |
| 16:32.37 | clinfix | offby1: apt-cache search can find out any firebird |
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| 16:33.17 | Covener | Is there an easy way to give the permissions of file2 to file1? |
| 16:33.21 | offby1 | clinfix: are you using stable, unstable, or testing? |
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| 16:33.27 | zu22 | after using debian i can't imagine going back to another linux distro, i pray debian is around forever :) |
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| 16:33.36 | Covener | doh, --reference |
| 16:33.41 | Covener | Strike that q! :) |
| 16:33.46 | offby1 | Covener: thanks, I didn't know that! |
| 16:33.51 | clinfix | offby1: stable |
| 16:34.04 | De_Mon | Yodds if its a config file try /etc or /etc/<package>/ |
| 16:34.06 | knoppix | offby1 now that you know can you help ? |
| 16:34.07 | gothtec | what package contains libX11.so.6 ? |
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| 16:34.22 | offby1 | clinfix: that's your problem. Firebird is only available on testing and unstable. You could always just download a binary from mozilla.org, though. |
| 16:34.35 | clinfix | ok |
| 16:34.39 | knoppix | how do i disable nvidia splash screen ? Option "NoLogo" "boolean".were in the config file do i put it ? what values should i use ? |
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| 16:34.42 | Yodds | De_Mon: I found it /usr/share/phpmyadmin |
| 16:34.47 | gothtec | !tell knoppix about knoppix |
| 16:34.59 | offby1 | knoppix: I wouldn't be surprised if you _couldn't_ disable it. It's non-Free, after all. |
| 16:35.09 | wpg_guard | !tell wpg_guard about wpg_guard |
| 16:35.14 | knoppix | i can disable it |
| 16:35.23 | knoppix | its on the readme file |
| 16:35.30 | wpg_guard | !tell wpg_guard about liveice |
| 16:35.32 | greenmile | knoppix: /j #nvidia ? =) |
| 16:35.39 | knoppix | just dont know were to put the option and what values |
| 16:35.45 | gothtec | !tell wpg_guard about moo |
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| 16:35.52 | De_Mon | Yodds if you plan to make changes i'd look in the other locations first |
| 16:36.02 | knoppix | greenmile ive tryed that 1st |
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| 16:36.13 | knoppix | =) |
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| 16:36.38 | g4lt | !tell wpg_guard about msg |
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| 16:36.53 | dasenjo | lilwip: I supposed that ldbm was the default database .. |
| 16:36.55 | gothtec | What package contains "the shared libraries libX11.so.6"? |
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| 16:37.10 | abrotman | ~find libX11.so.6 |
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| 16:37.18 | ElNooboStupido | I screwed up when installing X and told it I didnt want debconf to handle XF86config-4 setup - is there any way to change this? |
| 16:37.39 | offby1 | ElNooboStupido: probably dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 16:37.42 | gothtec | xlibs? |
| 16:37.45 | ElNooboStupido | thanks |
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| 16:40.14 | zu22 | root_: don't login IRC from root account |
| 16:40.17 | G2 | hi, what package is kprint part of? |
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| 16:41.10 | offby1 | ~find kprint |
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| 16:41.30 | abolande | zu22: I can't believe someone actually listened when told not to IRC as root. Usually they don't. |
| 16:42.11 | gordonjcp | I know I've asked this before, and got a good explanation |
| 16:42.14 | wpg_guard | Well, they probably know that they can simply be kicked off if they annoy someone. |
| 16:42.17 | gordonjcp | but why can't we just auto-kick root? |
| 16:42.27 | zu22 | gordonjcp: good idea |
| 16:42.33 | gordonjcp | someone had a good idea why not but I can't remember what it was? |
| 16:42.34 | Sputnikc | could it be that dhcpd-2.2.x isn't compatible with 2.6.0 kernel dhcp clients? |
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| 16:43.22 | Sputnikc | i see my dhcpd offering a lease to my client, but its not getting through to it in some sort with 2.6.0 kernel it is with a 2.4.22 kernel on the same machine |
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| 16:44.00 | abolande | Why not set something up to automatically tell someone not to IRC as root? |
| 16:44.01 | Rubin | sputnikc: its probably not the version. its probably how you compiledi t |
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| 16:44.39 | Supaplex | dh-make-perl says it cannot find locale-codes on cpan, however, http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Locale-Codes points right to it. How else can I build it? |
| 16:44.43 | gordonjcp | abolande: one of the bots already does that |
| 16:44.52 | Sputnikc | Rubin: are there any special options in networking options or other 2.6.0 options that need special care? i'v triple checked it for the standard options for tcp networking |
| 16:45.09 | trans_err | i have an idea to bounce arround... i'm going to be attending VTech in the fall and I need a laptop, but i'm not sure what i should purchase... keep in mind that i'm going after a CS degree... the laptop needs to 1. run linux (well) 2. have some form of wireless 3. and possibly a long lasting battery.... |
| 16:45.27 | abolande | gordonjcp: oh |
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| 16:45.44 | trans_err | oh and i havn't ousted the idea of purchasing an apple laptop |
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| 16:47.01 | gordonjcp | trans_err: apple are probably the best bed, quite honestly |
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| 16:47.18 | offby1 | nice mattresses? |
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| 16:47.32 | PDani | hi |
| 16:48.02 | HiRoMa | Hi All! I just escape the "gates" compound! Having realized that there was a free/coperative spirit out there I finaly feel liberated. And hungry for knowledge. |
| 16:48.03 | trans_err | gordonjcp: i'm worried that i might not have access to some tools though specific to my CS education |
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| 16:48.17 | Capkirk | anyone here running apache with more than 512 in maxclients? |
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| 16:48.57 | newbie_ | hey |
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| 16:49.07 | newbie_ | can any1 tell me why mirror.direct.ca is down ? |
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| 16:49.34 | Sirius_Black | Can ATI Radeon 9200 (128Mb) be configure on Debian sarge at all? |
| 16:49.38 | offby1 | trans_err: if certain tools are required for your courses, then doesn't the school recommend a laptop? |
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| 16:50.23 | HiRoMa | I must shamely admitt that I'm still codependant/slave of the window-ish environment. So I bought into Xandros. It is debian base. I'm running kernel 2.4.19-x1. |
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| 16:50.26 | abrotman | trans_err: i told you about the G40 right? |
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| 16:50.44 | trans_err | offby1: they recomend something that can run windows... but i can always log into my desktop accross campus |
| 16:50.47 | fcrick | anyone know where I can find a good reference for x86 machien instructions - or where i should ask? |
| 16:50.49 | trans_err | abrotman: yeah :D |
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| 16:51.11 | zu22 | macs are pricey, u can pick up a nice thinkpad maybe? |
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| 16:51.24 | offby1 | fcrick: the public library. |
| 16:51.25 | abrotman | trans_err: really .. its not a bad box .. has wireless .. battery is approx 3-4 hours i think .. maybe more |
| 16:51.28 | newbie_ | can any1 tell me why mirror.direct.ca has been shutdown? |
| 16:51.44 | trans_err | abrotman: yeah thats right now at number one or two on my list |
| 16:51.47 | offby1 | newbie_: presumably if anyone _could_ have told you, they _would_ have told you |
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| 16:51.53 | HiRoMa | I now need to install web server - have opted for postfix, and I following (trying to) the instructions found in http://www.marlow.dk/tech/postfix.php. |
| 16:52.00 | trans_err | abrotman: the ibooks and tibooks are so dreamy :D |
| 16:52.09 | abrotman | trans_err: and cost $$$ |
| 16:52.16 | abrotman | unless you get the cheap ibook |
| 16:52.26 | abrotman | trans_err: i tihnk mine was $1400 shipped |
| 16:52.29 | zu22 | hiroma: try apache |
| 16:52.30 | HiRoMa | Can someone tell me how to add a package source? |
| 16:52.30 | gboutwel | How do I get an boot floppy that I can, boot, set-up network settings, d/l from the internet & install debian, then reboot into debian? |
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| 16:52.37 | trans_err | abrotman: it's covered by my eduation grant :D |
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| 16:52.54 | offby1 | HiRoMa: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and copy the format of the existing lines |
| 16:53.11 | PDani | i use CUPS, and i've a hp deskjet 3420. I can print texts perfectly with openoffice, crossover, or with lp, but i can't print images. i tried with gimp, and with gnome image viewer, but i couldn't print. it doesn't seem to be any error message... any idea? |
| 16:53.20 | HiRoMa | zu22; apache will be my webmail publisher. Postfiz will be my MTA. |
| 16:53.30 | gboutwel | HiRoMa, or go into Xandros Networks, you shoudl be able to add an source from it. |
| 16:53.33 | offby1 | PDani: check that ghostscript is installed |
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| 16:53.41 | zu22 | <HiRoMa>: ok |
| 16:53.41 | HiRoMa | offby1;thanks |
| 16:54.06 | zu22 | when they have laptops that are << $1,000, 24 hour battery life i will get one :D |
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| 16:55.00 | CarloK | hi. is there someone who knows how to activate (or how to pass on a xterm command line) the font name provided by the package xfonts-terminus (huge fonts set)? thanks a lot |
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| 16:55.21 | wpg_guard | zu22: Are we talking USD? |
| 16:55.21 | PDani | offby1: gs - The Ghostscript Postscript interpreter <--- is it that? |
| 16:55.30 | zu22 | wpg_guard: yap |
| 16:55.36 | dbron | anyone know where I can get a netinstall image, I don't have access to my cd's. |
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| 16:55.43 | dbron | cds even |
| 16:55.55 | giacomo | ciao a tutti |
| 16:55.59 | zu22 | pdani: ya |
| 16:56.06 | Sirius_Black | does anyone know if ATI Radeon 9200 (128Mb) cards can be configure on Debian (Sarge) at all? |
| 16:56.18 | wpg_guard | dbron: CDN you mean? |
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| 16:56.57 | HiRoMa | offby1; is the following line a correct addition to the /etc/apt/sources.list "deb ftp://debian.marlow.dk/ woody/virus/ contrib". I'm trying to follow instructions found in deb ftp://debian.marlow.dk/ woody/virus/ contrib. |
| 16:56.58 | dbron | wpg_guard: CDN? I dunno an iso I can download like the one that was available on packages.debian.org |
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| 16:57.28 | wpg_guard | dbron: Oops.. sorry. Wrong subject. |
| 16:57.41 | Rubin | sputnikc: it could also be ipchain rules blocking it. i've seen that before too |
| 16:57.57 | gboutwel | dbron> Does this page cover what you want? http://www.debian.org/distrib/floppyinst |
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| 16:58.27 | dbron | gboutwel: yea, I have the floppies already, the cd is nice cause all the drivers are already there. |
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| 16:58.51 | lewis | can anyone help me with exim4 redirecting? |
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| 17:00.03 | PDani | zu22, offby1: it didn't help... |
| 17:00.24 | wpg_guard | lewis: Sorry, I've only done it with Sendmail. |
| 17:00.28 | zu22 | PDani: see what services u have running |
| 17:00.29 | giacomo | bye bye |
| 17:00.32 | PDani | i installed the gs package. should i do some configuring? |
| 17:01.03 | ElNooboStupido | sheesh what a pain in the tucchas!!! |
| 17:01.11 | PDani | zu22: cupsd |
| 17:01.21 | ElNooboStupido | i have to say when it comes to getting x up fedoras got it all over debian. |
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| 17:01.36 | ElNooboStupido | I wouldnt let fedora on a server of mine |
| 17:01.45 | gboutwel | dbcon, so you're looking for an iso to burn to CD that has all the netinstall stuff on it? |
| 17:01.45 | zu22 | pdani: u may have firewall blocking it or u could be printing too large for your printer's memory |
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| 17:01.51 | ElNooboStupido | i'd rather grub a steaming pile 'o poo |
| 17:02.27 | PDani | zu22: the last thing is possible... how can i check my printer's memory? |
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| 17:02.41 | dbron | gboutwel: I found it, packages says it isn't there but the link works |
| 17:02.41 | montaraz | hii, i installed Superkaramba con Debian (woody) but i dont know how use it for that desktop where the elements are floating |
| 17:02.56 | zu22 | ElNooboStupido: getting X working in Debian is not a pain at all if u know what you're doing, don't blame Debian |
| 17:02.57 | zu22 | PDani: read the manual |
| 17:03.03 | ElNooboStupido | does freebsd look anything at all like macosX? |
| 17:03.15 | De_Mon | ElNooboStupido i duno, debian's X configuring was a sinch for me |
| 17:03.21 | montaraz | hii, i installed Superkaramba with Debian (woody) but i dont know how use it for that desktop where the elements are floating |
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| 17:03.45 | ElNooboStupido | DeMon its getting the NVIDIA drivers compiled and installed, no biggie - just recognize my name |
| 17:03.53 | gboutwel | dbcon> :) that's cool. |
| 17:04.06 | dbron | heh, people.debian.org 377.73K/s <- that's ok! |
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| 17:06.38 | PDani | zu22: 768KB builtin ram. so the size of the image i want to print can't exceed this limit? |
| 17:07.20 | De_Mon | ElNooboStupido yeah that was fun. less work to just download the nvidia installer and use that |
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| 17:07.31 | zu22 | PDani: prolly, i'd ask to be sure |
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| 17:08.30 | PDani | hm... my picture is only 322KB... |
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| 17:09.04 | zu22 | PDani: look in /var/log for error message |
| 17:09.17 | PDani | zu22: i didn't find any |
| 17:09.49 | zu22 | PDani: what is your print program? |
| 17:10.12 | PDani | zu22: cups, and i tried to print with gimp and gnome image viewer |
| 17:10.31 | zu22 | PDani: try printing it with enscript |
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| 17:11.02 | trans_err | does centrino play well with linux? |
| 17:11.26 | PDani | zu22: enscript - Converts ASCII text to Postscript, HTML, RTF or Pretty-Print <-- but i want to print images not ascii-text... |
| 17:11.38 | Serbitar | 5 |
| 17:11.40 | abrotman | trans_err: look on that linux-laptop.net or whatever it is .. look for a newer TP model .. like X series i think |
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| 17:12.41 | zu22 | PDani: maybe read the linux printing HOWTO |
| 17:12.50 | PDani | i have read it |
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| 17:13.19 | zu22 | PDani: when u print do u see any activity on your printer's LED screen or hear anything? |
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| 17:14.29 | PDani | when i'm trying to print images, i don't hear anything, and the LED is lighting as usual |
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| 17:14.50 | zu22 | PDani: sorry gotta go now, maybe someone here will help ya |
| 17:14.58 | aladdin | hey |
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| 17:15.20 | aladdin | did u know how to setup gamepad with 4 buttons |
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| 17:15.49 | aladdin | I have loaded analog, gameport, joydev |
| 17:16.03 | aladdin | but there isn't /dev/joy0 |
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| 17:16.35 | aladdin | did somebody know about setup gamepad ? |
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| 17:17.15 | aladdin | maybe I have forgotten a module or is there some program to run to setup ? |
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| 17:21.53 | greycat | argonel: yes, the rant only came up if you manually typed in the wrong URL without the trailing slash. With the trailing slash properly in place, you got the normal web site. |
| 17:22.02 | DerBadejunge | is there any way to check if my security levels on my debain are ok ? : user badejunge... |
| 17:22.24 | greycat | DerBadejunge: what "security levels"? |
| 17:22.36 | aladdin | DerBadejunge : nessus ? |
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| 17:23.08 | DerBadejunge | greycat: imean, checking if some configs are for root only and if user badejunge can doo stupid shit on my pc like crash ... |
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| 17:23.45 | greycat | DerBadejunge: like a rootkit detector? |
| 17:24.31 | DerBadejunge | i dont really know what a rootkit ist. but a checker if badejunge can damage my system would be great |
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| 17:24.50 | greycat | DerBadejunge: if you didn't do anything *stupid* (like playing with chmod), then you're safe. |
| 17:25.15 | DerBadejunge | greycat: of course i did :-) im root. :-) |
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| 17:25.56 | aladdin | nessus is more for checking network security |
| 17:26.08 | greycat | DerBadejunge: I don't think there's any way to double-check everything that a rogue root-level admin could have done |
| 17:26.30 | PDani | how can i check that exactly how much data can i write to a 80min-CD-Recordable? |
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| 17:26.45 | montaraz | have done |
| 17:26.50 | De_Mon | PDani huh? 800MB |
| 17:26.53 | De_Mon | er 700MB |
| 17:27.12 | PDani | De_Mon: but i need the value exactly in bytes |
| 17:27.14 | bjoernk | positive nachricht kernel 2.6 läuft, aber die usbmaus geht nicht mehr unter x |
| 17:27.27 | greycat | PDani: before or after creating the iso 9660 image? |
| 17:27.37 | PDani | before |
| 17:27.46 | PDani | i have a blank disc in my device |
| 17:27.52 | greycat | then you'll never get an exact value |
| 17:28.21 | Groundy | errr, is there an alternative online search for apt-file ? (i don't want to download Contents.gz) but i do want to find out which package owns a file |
| 17:28.34 | PDani | greycat: why not? |
| 17:28.43 | De_Mon | Groundy if the package is installed you can you dpkg, otherwise.. no |
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| 17:29.00 | De_Mon | Groundy rather, if the package that owns the file is installed |
| 17:29.04 | greycat | PDani: because one million 1-byte files in an ISO 9660 file system take up *much* more space than a single 1,000,000-byte file |
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| 17:29.19 | Groundy | De_Mon: yea i know that, (dpkg -S) |
| 17:29.31 | greycat | Groundy: there's the bots, and one day there will (again) be packages.debian.org |
| 17:29.56 | PDani | greycat: oh, i see :) |
| 17:29.57 | Groundy | dpkg: Heavy.pm |
| 17:29.58 | dpkg | Groundy: are you smoking crack? |
| 17:30.08 | Groundy | dpkg: owns /usr/share/perl/5.8.0/Exporter/Heavy.pm |
| 17:30.09 | dpkg | Groundy: I give up, what is it? |
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| 17:30.12 | PDani | thx |
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| 17:30.55 | asg | Groundy: /msg dpkg find <file> [woody,sarge,sid] |
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| 17:31.05 | Groundy | k, just tried it |
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| 17:31.29 | Groundy | basically i _had_ it upgraded apache, and now it's gone |
| 17:31.39 | Groundy | but locate still knows about it, so i know i'm not crazy |
| 17:31.41 | CrazyDrew | Does anyone happen to know why power to the NAND Flash Controller of the 2215 is shutoff after about four seconds of operation? |
| 17:32.00 | asg | Groundy: base/perl-base (according to dpkg) |
| 17:32.05 | Groundy | got it |
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| 17:32.14 | kris | has anyone used xmame? Im wondering if it works pretty smoothly? |
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| 17:32.31 | Groundy | perl-base is already the newest version. |
| 17:32.33 | DerBadejunge | so what is bastille ? |
| 17:32.41 | asg | Groundy: sid? |
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| 17:32.53 | Groundy | asg: testing yup |
| 17:32.54 | amundsen | how can i change de the kbd charset permanently ? |
| 17:33.01 | Groundy | dpkg: perl-base |
| 17:33.02 | dpkg | Groundy: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 17:33.05 | Groundy | dpkg: sid |
| 17:33.06 | asg | Groundy: testing is sarge |
| 17:33.06 | Azhrarn | whoa, dpkg -l is readable now |
| 17:33.06 | dpkg | rumour has it, sid is the unstable version of Debian. Don't use it unless you know what you're doing, or it can break horribly. |
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| 17:33.18 | Groundy | nope just sarge |
| 17:33.28 | asg | Groundy: dunno, check the bts then |
| 17:33.37 | Groundy | perl-base is 5.8.2-2 |
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| 17:34.44 | gerard | :-) |
| 17:35.14 | Groundy | what does dpkg search ? |
| 17:35.17 | dondelelcaro | !sid =~ s/, or/, as/ |
| 17:35.18 | dpkg | OK, dondelelcaro |
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| 17:35.33 | DerBadejunge | why doesnt ALT and ALTGR work ? silly huh ? |
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| 17:35.47 | dondelelcaro | !sid =~ s/horribly./horribly, and probably will sometime while you're using it./ |
| 17:35.48 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: OK |
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| 17:36.15 | sussudio | !status |
| 17:36.15 | dpkg | Since Thu Jan 8 15:57:33 2004, there have been 0 modifications, 19 questions, 8 dunnos, 1 moron and 22 commands. I have been awake for 1h 38m 41s this session, and currently reference 22899 factoids. I'm using about 15652 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 10.62/0.74 child 62.02/6.1 |
| 17:36.16 | asg | dondelelcaro: I always look up such things as an opportunity for adventure ;) |
| 17:36.25 | asg | s/up/upon/ |
| 17:36.34 | Groundy | ugh perl path is now 5.8.2 NOT 2.8.0 |
| 17:36.39 | Groundy | THAT would explain |
| 17:36.57 | dondelelcaro | Groundy: unless its specific to 5.8.2, it doesn't go in that directory. |
| 17:37.13 | dondelelcaro | Groundy: furthermore, if it is, you probably should be using or building a .deb |
| 17:37.24 | wpg_guard | One moron? |
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| 17:37.27 | Groundy | dondelelcaro: (where do i set the perl path for mod_perl ......) |
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| 17:37.41 | dondelelcaro | Groundy: for what? you mean @INC? |
| 17:37.49 | Groundy | dondelelcaro: yup |
| 17:38.31 | Groundy | grep 5.8.0 /etc/ -R |
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| 17:39.29 | dondelelcaro | Groundy: there are quite a few different ways to do that. I generally use a PerlRequire /path/to/foo.plthat has a use lib qw(directory that I want) |
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| 17:39.45 | Groundy | dondelelcaro: global settings ? |
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| 17:40.01 | tola | I need to upgrade my mysql to version 4.1, can anyone advise on the best way to go about it? |
| 17:40.09 | kris | does anyone think it would be hard to get 4 joysticks working at the same time for xmame? |
| 17:40.15 | asg | tola: on woody? |
| 17:40.16 | DerBadejunge | why doesnt ALT and ALTGR work ? silly huh ? |
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| 17:40.42 | asg | tola: /msg dpkg simple sid backport (or backports.org, apt-get.org) |
| 17:40.56 | asg | tola: or compile from source and stuff the lot in /usr/local |
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| 17:41.09 | dondelelcaro | Groundy: the global settings are compiled in. Per run instances are set via Perl directives in the apache config file. |
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| 17:41.28 | Groundy | dondelelcaro: hrm, perl -e print @INC returns the 5.8.2 dirs |
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| 17:41.43 | dondelelcaro | Groundy: perl is different from mod_perl. |
| 17:41.53 | Groundy | dondelelcaro: i assume mod_perl needs to be updated too ? |
| 17:42.20 | tola | asg: thanks. that looks scary but thanks nevertheless. |
| 17:42.30 | asg | tola: you're welcome |
| 17:42.53 | droopy | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:42.53 | dondelelcaro | Groundy: it doesn't have to be, but it can be. A current version should require libperl5.8 (>= 5.8.2) |
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| 17:44.07 | Groundy | hrm, libperl5.8.2 |
| 17:45.12 | Groundy | hrm, where would mod perl store it's paths? perl is in /usr/bin/perl |
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| 17:45.39 | k0sm|k0 | hi |
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| 17:45.44 | k0sm|k0 | anyone live ? |
| 17:45.48 | dippo | barely |
| 17:45.52 | asg | k0sm|k0: no we're memorex |
| 17:45.54 | dondelelcaro | Groundy: again, just use a PerlRequire that adds the appropriate directories, or use the right version of mod_perl. |
| 17:45.58 | k0sm|k0 | ahah :D |
| 17:45.59 | k0sm|k0 | good.. |
| 17:46.13 | k0sm|k0 | so.. i have 2 problems... |
| 17:46.29 | Groundy | dondelelcaro: i'm having problems finding where mod_perl stores it's paths |
| 17:46.30 | k0sm|k0 | i have recompiled my kernel 2.6.0 with andrew morton patch... |
| 17:46.32 | PDani | why cdrecord always starts from 22.0x, and then just for a while go up to 48.0x? |
| 17:46.48 | dondelelcaro | Groundy: http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/config.html#The_Startup_File |
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| 17:46.57 | k0sm|k0 | i added stanza in /etc/lilo.conf |
| 17:46.57 | Soulfly | does anyone here know what can cause the init process to nearly constantly be running att 100%. I have debian unstable (KDE), two bittorentgui klents, mozilla 1.6b running. and i tried to get another x session with a game at display 1 which failed. can't get keyboard input to the terminals either (ctrl-alt-F1 for instance). ideas? |
| 17:47.08 | qpee | is apache broken in sarge? i get a segfault on startup |
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| 17:47.18 | k0sm|k0 | and when i do lilo -v i obtain: Fatal: Empty map section |
| 17:47.19 | asg | qpee: check the bts |
| 17:47.21 | dondelelcaro | Groundy: @INC is set at compile time. It's not stored anywhere. |
| 17:47.27 | Zortok_ | I am installing debian on a machine, have it installed on the machine, but I want to update the packages using apt-get update |
| 17:47.32 | dnc | Soulfly: mozilla is open on some page |
| 17:47.37 | Groundy | dondelelcaro: HA, maybe install libperl.so.5.8.2 ! |
| 17:47.47 | Zortok_ | how do I tell apt-get to use the squid proxy server settings? right now it times out |
| 17:47.56 | Soulfly | dnc: several pages. i'll close them |
| 17:47.59 | dondelelcaro | Groundy: what version of libapache-mod-perl are you using anyway? |
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| 17:48.13 | caphuso | Zortok_: /msg dpgk http_proxy |
| 17:48.23 | Zortok_ | ok |
| 17:48.30 | Soulfly | dnc: didn't help. although i run irc with chatzilla |
| 17:48.36 | greycat | but spell dpkg correctly :) |
| 17:48.40 | dnc | Soulfly: with some pages with (i think) javascript with dynamic content (DOM something) i've saw near 100% CPU utilisation... |
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| 17:48.48 | Zortok_ | so I would type /msg dpkg http_proxy |
| 17:48.50 | asg | greycat: exercise left to the reader |
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| 17:48.58 | Groundy | dondelelcaro: 1.29.0.1-3 |
| 17:49.07 | Soulfly | dnc: 100% on the init process? |
| 17:49.14 | dnc | Soulfly: ah, sorry |
| 17:49.34 | dnc | Soulfly: it's your init that is using near 100% CPU? |
| 17:49.40 | dondelelcaro | Groundy: ok, then you better be running libperl5.8 5.8.2 or better. |
| 17:49.43 | Groundy | dondelelcaro: but libperl got upgraded from 5.8.0 to 5.8.2 too |
| 17:49.55 | Soulfly | dnc: np. yes. it's the init process |
| 17:49.58 | Groundy | dondelelcaro: so i think maybe the perl libs will reload correctly if i just restart apache |
| 17:50.37 | Groundy | dondelelcaro: is there anyway to find out what libraries a running program has loaded ? |
| 17:50.54 | LoRez | Groundy: lsof |
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| 17:50.58 | Zortok_ | caphuso where do I put that command? |
| 17:51.04 | frehal | i am trying to compile cdbakeoven and i get this error Can't find X includes. what should i apt-get? |
| 17:51.19 | asg | frehal: xlibs-dev |
| 17:51.26 | Groundy | zzzzz, |
| 17:51.32 | dnc | Soulfly: mmh, i've no idea what could be, you could try to pinpoint the offending program disabling the services one at time, maybe |
| 17:51.44 | caphuso | Zortok_: somewhere in your shell startup files, or (without the export) in /etc/environment |
| 17:51.50 | Zortok_ | ok |
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| 17:52.14 | dnc | Soulfly: if the problem is related to one of the daemon, but i could be way wrong =) |
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| 17:52.47 | Groundy | dondelelcaro: surely apache with mod_perl should use a libperl file ? |
| 17:53.01 | Soulfly | dnc: i saw a lot of scsi errors of some sort when I tried to launch another x session. i see now that only vitual terminals 0 and 1 are trashed. 0 wont logout/dead. 1 don't accept input. which apps could do this to the init process? |
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| 17:54.24 | frehal | i need a cpu&mem usage applet for kde do you know any? |
| 17:54.56 | dnc | Soulfly: could be a dying HD, or a full HD? |
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| 17:55.33 | dnc | Soulfly: i'm sorry, but i've no clue about this behaviour of init |
| 17:55.43 | Soulfly | dnc: thanx. Ill check that. are the init process reading I/O if not booting? |
| 17:55.48 | dondelelcaro | Groundy: it does. see, FE apache 19867 root mem REG 8,5 1180296 349318 /usr/lib/libperl.so.5.8.2 |
| 17:56.09 | dondelelcaro | Groundy: lsof -p `pidof apache`|grep libperl |
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| 17:56.41 | Hyper | Program for debian, like windows has the hyperterminal? ;) |
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| 17:56.47 | asg | Hyper: minicom |
| 17:56.50 | Hyper | ok thx |
| 17:56.58 | Justin_ | !tell Hyper about search |
| 17:57.07 | juanca | Hyper: minicom |
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| 17:57.12 | Hyper | hehe didnt know what to search for :| |
| 17:57.15 | Groundy | dondelelcaro: it does now that i've restart it ! |
| 17:57.21 | Justin_ | Hyper: serial terminal? duh |
| 17:57.26 | dnc | Soulfly: IIRC, init should only launch program as described in your /etc/rcX.d with regard your runlevel, usually 2 on debian |
| 17:57.34 | Hyper | hmm, i search for serial and got a lot of crap |
| 17:57.50 | Groundy | YAY, movabletype works again, stilly apache |
| 17:58.19 | dnc | Soulfly: init should not do a lot of I/O, at least not directly, but i'm not sure |
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| 18:00.18 | Soulfly | dnc: do you know what can trig init besides telinit/halt/reboot ?+ |
| 18:00.19 | greycat | dnc: that's the wrong abstraction layer. init reads /etc/inittab and does what it says, period. all the rc*.d stuff is implemented by scripts. |
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| 18:00.40 | Hyper | if i want to connec to serial1 on my debian, then what to do? :) |
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| 18:00.56 | asg | Hyper: /dev/ttyS0 |
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| 18:01.02 | Hyper | thx. |
| 18:01.04 | greycat | Hyper: using a modem? a Wyse 30? what? |
| 18:01.09 | HiRoMa | I'm trying to list packages by name using the string "dpkg -l pattern". To test it, I issue dpkg -l 'postfix*'. I know postfix is there, I've seen it, yet I get "No packages found matching Postfix*." What am I doing wrong? |
| 18:01.15 | Aloc | Hello, could someone suggest a package/way of doing/method/etc. that would be a simple way to implement a SBL (Spam black list) automaticaly updating itself (from a source like spamhaus.org) over a debian box (base config with procmail/sendmail...) ? tank you |
| 18:01.16 | Hyper | Not, console kabel for my cisco switch. |
| 18:01.17 | dnc | greycat: yeah, i'm very confused about it =) |
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| 18:01.28 | dnc | Soulfly: no |
| 18:01.40 | greycat | Hyper: oh, that's trivial! use minicom as you were already told. |
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| 18:01.54 | Hyper | i´ill try that |
| 18:01.59 | travis | I'm a novice .deb package builder... I'm doing a little one right now with a .man page or two. Are there "helper" scripts to manage man pages under #debian? |
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| 18:03.03 | ljlane | travis: debhelper's dh_installman or dh_installmanpages. One is deprectated, says so in the man page. |
| 18:03.23 | Soulfly | anyone know how to attach gdb to a process gone wild? |
| 18:03.31 | LoRez | Soulfly: attach PID |
| 18:03.38 | greycat | Soulfly: gdb /foo, attach <pid> |
| 18:03.44 | Soulfly | thanx |
| 18:04.03 | greycat | Aloc: don't do that |
| 18:04.05 | LoRez | Aloc: don't do that |
| 18:04.07 | travis | ljlane: thx, the second one appears to be the deprecated one |
| 18:04.09 | bfree | Hi all, I'm confused about the kernel security problems. I have a server box running 2.2.20-idepci and it seems this is vulnerable (2.2 affected) but it isn't really mentioned in the dsa! Am I ok, or do I have to update to 2.4 or wait and pray to get clear of this? |
| 18:04.17 | Aloc | sorry, was just verifying |
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| 18:04.40 | greycat | bfree: I have never yet received a clear statement that "2.2 is vulnerable" or "2.2 is not vulnerable" |
| 18:04.47 | Soulfly | greycat: whats the /foo for? shouldn't it be enough with PID? |
| 18:04.48 | hacim | I have a slapd process that is hung, if I attach to it via strace -p I see nothing, it keeps happening if I kill it off, how do I debug this? |
| 18:04.55 | greycat | Soulfly: nope |
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| 18:05.31 | TravisBarker | synaptic worked fine yesterday, today it gives me Sub-process /bin/rpm returned an error code (1) just berore it actually installs a packag ... any help would be nice? |
| 18:05.44 | greycat | hacim: recompile it with -g and use gdb on it, or insert lots of fprintf()s |
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| 18:05.48 | qid | please can someone name me a good intuitive email client (prefrably with few dependencies). |
| 18:05.50 | Nurbs | bfree: vulnerable to that mremap attack? afaik it isn't, because it doesn't have some MREMAP_... flag |
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| 18:05.53 | greycat | qid: mutt |
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| 18:06.06 | Aloc | is there a debian package putting in place an automatic spam black list in place? |
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| 18:06.20 | sheyz | when I do apt-get dist-upgrade I get this error: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault. |
| 18:06.20 | glick | excuse me does anyone know what (normal mode) means in gphoto? |
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| 18:06.22 | sheyz | why? |
| 18:06.31 | glick | my camera is only supported in normal mode |
| 18:06.32 | Soulfly | greycat: "gdb init,attach 1" gives me from ptrace that that is not allowed |
| 18:06.34 | glick | what does this mean? |
| 18:07.03 | greycat | Soulfly: I don't know what special rules init may habe. |
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| 18:07.15 | asg | glick: does 'man gphoto' provide any info |
| 18:07.24 | xenohugs | Is there an option to make dpkg show me the full package name in its output rather than truncate it? -> ii kernel-image-2 omgwtfversionisthis |
| 18:07.34 | greycat | xenohugs: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |
| 18:07.34 | asg | xenohugs: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l .. |
| 18:07.36 | Justin_ | glick:mass storage mode |
| 18:07.40 | xenohugs | woot |
| 18:07.55 | greycat | xenohugs: there's also dpkg --get-selections |
| 18:08.09 | qid | please can someone name me a good intuitive gui email client (prefrably with few dependencies). |
| 18:08.15 | glick | Justin_, so it has nothing to do with the compression of the picture or anything like that? |
| 18:08.24 | greycat | qid: that's an oxymoron :) |
| 18:08.30 | qid | greycat :D |
| 18:08.31 | Justin_ | glick: i dunno, check the manual |
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| 18:08.53 | glick | asg, no |
| 18:08.56 | glick | no man page |
| 18:09.10 | danieru | is there anyway I can force a fsck on everything on every boot .. |
| 18:09.26 | dnc | qid: maybe sylpheed, or balsa |
| 18:09.42 | Soulfly | greycat: okay. you mean that init might not allow ptrace. i'll guess that gives me short of options. how about attaching strace? |
| 18:09.56 | HiRoMa | OK. I just shot myself in ass. I added a new pkg source, and now "apt-get" defaults to that one, and the 3 other sources I have are ignore. I'm a newbie to debian, and hate to ask for help -especially when there is such a wealth of documentation. But I'm so turn around on this one I can't see straight. Can some one help? thank you in advance. |
| 18:10.08 | Aloc | danieru: look at tune2fs |
| 18:10.16 | travis | there appear to be two ways to build debian packages, one is with the DEBIAN control directory, the other with the debian control directory (the difference being the case), am I right in assuming the DEBIAN one is older/deprecated? |
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| 18:10.37 | noda | Where can I find a mysql-4.1.1 package for Debian? |
| 18:10.39 | danieru | Aloc, cheers |
| 18:10.50 | Aloc | :) |
| 18:10.57 | asg | HiRoMa: remove it (temporarily) or /msg dpkg pinning |
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| 18:11.25 | HiRoMa | asg; pinning? |
| 18:11.30 | sheyz | when I do apt-get dist-upgrade I get this error: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault. |
| 18:11.35 | qid | dnc: thanks. I'll have a look at them. |
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| 18:11.37 | sheyz | How do I fix this? |
| 18:11.47 | LoRez | sheyz: is one of your partitions full? |
| 18:11.57 | Peter2 | Hello, is there a possibily to send an email to an account on bad password by login into ssh |
| 18:11.59 | Mon | i. i want to start a dhcp server. i give a "/etc/init.d/dhcp start" debian says "Starting DHCP server: dhcp." but it doesnt even show up in ps |
| 18:12.05 | Aloc | is there a debian package putting in place an automatic spam black list in place? |
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| 18:12.12 | sheyz | (LoRez) no |
| 18:12.17 | peterS | Peter2: on behalf of the Peters already here, welcome |
| 18:12.41 | asg | HiRoMa: man 5 apt_preferences |
| 18:12.51 | Peter2 | tnx :p |
| 18:12.57 | Peter2 | but do you perhaps know the solution |
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| 18:12.59 | HiRoMa | asg;thanks |
| 18:13.07 | Peter2 | i mean seeing something like that but don't now where anymore |
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| 18:13.44 | TravisBarker | anybody know what Synaptic Sub-process /bin/rpm returned an error code (1) is? |
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| 18:14.12 | bfree | It looks like the announcement (DSA-413-1) has changed! I'm subscribed to security-announce and the mail there said "Paul Starzetz discovered a flaw in bounds checking in mremap() in the Linux kernel (present in version 2.2.x, 2.4.x and 2.6.x)" but now the debian list archive says "Paul Starzetz discovered ... in the Linux kernel (present in version 2.4.x and 2.6.x) .... Version 2.2 is not affected by this bug." Strange and not what I like |
| 18:14.17 | hadge | Hey there, I was wondering if anyone here was experienced with snmp. I've just installed mrtg to graph traffic through my router, but I'm looking to graph trafic my ip, so I'd need to know if it's possible to receive packet counts from snmp for sub-interfaces |
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| 18:14.47 | mkl | Hi! I'm looking for a tool similar to strace but for the X11 enviroment, that doesn't throw all X11 messages on me. Anybody know one? |
| 18:14.53 | yazid | hadge: snmp is rather device agnostic... all depends on the mib i guess |
| 18:14.57 | Groundy | hadge: yes mrtg supports that |
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| 18:15.29 | Aloc | hm, anyone? i'm looking for a spam blocking tool that could be installed to filter out incoming mail for a server using public spam list like the dnsbl from spamhaus.org? |
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| 18:15.40 | Groundy | Aloc: exim ? |
| 18:15.42 | LoRez | hadge: if you'll notice from the ifconfig output for aliased interfaces, linux doesn't keep packet counts for them |
| 18:15.50 | HiRoMa | asg; Fixed it. When I added the new source via dselect, it created a new source.list while backing up my original one. |
| 18:15.54 | Aloc | no the system is using sendmail |
| 18:15.56 | hadge | yazid: I'm pretty snmp-clueless :) |
| 18:15.58 | yazid | does anybody here run a working am-utils configuration with master map on nis and brosawble_dirs? can`t get it to work... |
| 18:16.03 | asg | HiRoMa: :) |
| 18:16.08 | oskie | Aloc: dunno if spamassasin would work, but it works well for spam filtering in general |
| 18:16.09 | Aloc | groundy: no the system is using sendmail |
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| 18:16.19 | Groundy | hadge: you could count the packets using iptables, and set up a custom snmp variable |
| 18:16.24 | hadge | LoRez: ah, ok, so I'd have to look into making my own logs with iptables I guess |
| 18:16.28 | Groundy | aloc: exim does it as part of the exim system |
| 18:16.33 | Aloc | oskie: is it not to block outgoing mail? |
| 18:16.33 | HiRoMa | asg; Is that typical? |
| 18:16.41 | LoRez | hadge: or patch the kernel appropriately |
| 18:16.42 | sheyz | Can someone please help me get rid of this error message? E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault. |
| 18:16.57 | yazid | Groundy: not sure what kind of router he means |
| 18:17.00 | noda | Nobody knows of a mysql-server-4.1 deb? |
| 18:17.06 | danieru | gah XFS sucks ggrrr |
| 18:17.14 | Groundy | yazid: he = ? |
| 18:17.19 | yazid | sheyz: installing what package? |
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| 18:17.28 | hadge | yazid: it's just a linux machine routing |
| 18:17.29 | peterS | danieru: the X11 font server or the file system? |
| 18:17.48 | danieru | peterS, the filesystem .. |
| 18:17.48 | dnc | noda: try looking on www.apt-get.org |
| 18:17.48 | sheyz | (yazid) apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 18:17.50 | Groundy | hadez: sendmail might do blacklisting otherwise upgrade to exim |
| 18:17.56 | noda | dnc: I tried, no go |
| 18:18.11 | oskie | Aloc: no |
| 18:18.27 | oskie | Aloc: I guess it could be used to, but it's mainly for blocking incoming mail |
| 18:18.49 | yazid | sheyz: dpkg usually is busy with a certain package. can you find out WHICH ONE? |
| 18:18.52 | Aloc | oskie: oki, tanks, i'll go read it again then :) |
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| 18:19.31 | sheyz | (yazid) Replacing files in old package e2fsprogs ... |
| 18:19.42 | yazid | sheyz: ah hah |
| 18:20.21 | yazid | sheyz: try deinstalling e2fsprogs manually before doing the dist-upgrade |
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| 18:20.40 | sheyz | (yazid) ok, brb |
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| 18:21.22 | fcrick | is there a good place to go to chat with assembly programmers? |
| 18:21.29 | newbie_ | hey guyz |
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| 18:21.36 | newbie_ | wanna hear something really funny |
| 18:21.40 | sheyz | (yazid) its telling me not to, and if I do, it will remove alot of stuff, like my kernel-image |
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| 18:21.52 | Guest65272 | http://www.semechki.agababyan.ru/bag.php?id=3431 |
| 18:21.57 | fcrick | newbie_: do we have a choice? |
| 18:22.08 | newbie_ | try this some school kid got thrown out of school on evidence just based on win$hit 2003 XP LOGS |
| 18:22.46 | fcrick | newbie_: well did he do something bad? |
| 18:22.54 | newbie_ | LOL those things can be edited with a paper towel mind basing all evidence on that and throwing out a kid who is now sueing the school |
| 18:22.58 | g4lt | newbie_ since XP and 2003 are different products, I doubt it |
| 18:22.59 | newbie_ | no he didnt |
| 18:23.07 | yazid | sheyz: HOW did you try to remove it? |
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| 18:23.15 | mintee | Hey all |
| 18:23.22 | sheyz | (yazid) apt-get remove .. |
| 18:23.28 | newbie_ | any 1 knows XP logs can be edited with your paper towel for god sakes |
| 18:23.34 | yazid | sheyz: dpkg -r is more what you need |
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| 18:23.44 | sheyz | (yazid) ok brb |
| 18:23.47 | fcrick | newbie_: so you think its a conspiracy? |
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| 18:23.53 | newbie_ | and the school based all the evidence that he corrupted their files on win2003 shit logs |
| 18:23.54 | mintee | Got an issue.... |
| 18:23.54 | mintee | when I rm -rf this directory, it remounts my filesystem ro |
| 18:23.54 | mintee | drwx-wx--- 80 5243889 5242960 49152 Dec 6 09:12 mintee/ |
| 18:23.54 | mintee | What's with the user and group? |
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| 18:24.04 | newbie_ | my god man somebody just set this kid up c |
| 18:24.05 | robertj | hey all, anyone here familiar with the sbp2 module? I'm having some nasty problems wit it timing out on device connect |
| 18:24.08 | mintee | sorry, did everyone get that!? |
| 18:24.20 | sheyz | (yazid) it wont let me |
| 18:24.40 | robertj | my device shows up in /proc/bus/ieee1394/devices but I can't connect to it |
| 18:24.42 | oskie | mintee: your filesystem needs to be unmounted and checked |
| 18:24.46 | yazid | sheyz: it should tell you how to force it |
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| 18:24.56 | oskie | mintee: maybe it just needs to be remounted ro and checked |
| 18:25.03 | mintee | yeah... oskie. That was my guess too.. But it's a 468GB partition ext3 |
| 18:25.04 | sheyz | (yazid) it says its an essential package |
| 18:25.12 | mintee | that will take like 6 hours or more... |
| 18:25.17 | Mon | can anyone help me with dhcp server not starting? (using stable) |
| 18:25.23 | yazid | newbie_: given that the average student is NOT capable of editing server logs.... |
| 18:25.38 | oskie | mintee: heh well, better than than complete file system corruption ... |
| 18:25.39 | fcrick | newbie_: was this you? |
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| 18:26.25 | mintee | oskie: tru... |
| 18:26.36 | sgeigerbot | robertj: I think I snagged this from a recent Linux magaine (probably Journal or Magazine). I haven't used firewire yet. I hope this helps: modprobe ohci1394 modprobe raw1394 modprobe pcilynx To test your setup, use gscanbus, a little bus scanning, testing, and topology visualizing tool for the Linux IEEE1394 subsystem. http://gscanbus.berlios.de |
| 18:26.37 | oskie | mintee: are you sure it would take 6 hours? unless it has MANY small files it will only take a short while.. |
| 18:26.40 | fcrick | i think i chose the wrong program when I decided I would try my hand at disassembly... |
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| 18:27.05 | robertj | hehe, the bot is wrong again! |
| 18:27.19 | yazid | sheyz: look at dpkg manpage, you can force it. then install a new e2fsprogs with apt-get instantly |
| 18:27.21 | fcrick | the one i chose jump into data memory, then rewrites itself in a very confusing fashion... |
| 18:27.29 | mintee | oskie... software RAID 5 spanned across 6 IDE drives with DMA errors. Yeah it will take at least 6 hours. LOL |
| 18:27.31 | sgeigerbot | robertj: I did not say anything wrong. I said I hope it helps...but I didn't say it would. |
| 18:27.47 | peterS | mon: /msg dpkg kernel dhcp |
| 18:27.51 | oskie | mintee: DMA errors? ouch... |
| 18:28.03 | peterS | Mon: the bot will tell you about the most common reason a DHCP server doesn't start |
| 18:28.08 | robertj | oh you really aren't a bot ;) |
| 18:28.15 | Mon | peterS: aaah i see. thanks a lot! |
| 18:28.19 | mintee | oskie: can I /msg you? |
| 18:28.19 | sgeigerbot | robertj: tell me what's wrong, human. |
| 18:28.20 | robertj | either that or you are a really good one ;) |
| 18:28.25 | yazid | oskie: doesn`t the software raid driver instantly thro drives producing errors out? |
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| 18:28.40 | robertj | or someone is having fun with !tell or whatever bots do these days |
| 18:28.40 | sgeigerbot | robertj: Why are you so interested in my bot-uality? Have you been interested in "exploring" that part of your nature? |
| 18:29.04 | mintee | yazid: No, worked fine with my 2.4.20 kernel |
| 18:29.09 | sgeigerbot | robertj: I think the topic is Debian. |
| 18:29.10 | peterS | sgeigerbot: bot-uality? I thought the term was 'botulism' |
| 18:29.16 | mintee | then I went to 2.4.22 and now 2.6.0 and it's still erroring out |
| 18:29.20 | robertj | hehe, but anyway those directions don't work |
| 18:29.21 | sgeigerbot | peterS: | |
| 18:29.21 | sgeigerbot | peterS: /| |
| 18:29.25 | lizdeika | maybe someone knows if there is smth similar for gnome ? http://kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?file=9919-1.png&name=KSambaPlugin |
| 18:29.27 | peterS | sgeigerbot: good to see you too |
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| 18:29.28 | robertj | especially because I am using an ohci card ;) |
| 18:29.33 | lazarus | 18:29 <lazarus> wtf? |
| 18:29.35 | lazarus | 18:29 [Users #debian] |
| 18:29.38 | lazarus | 18:29 -!- Irssi: #debian: Total of 0 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 0 normal] |
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| 18:29.57 | yazid | mintee: and yet you got creeping corruption by dma errors? |
| 18:30.00 | Soulfly | anyone have any suggestions how i troubleshoot a init process running nearly 100% ptrace() won't attach |
| 18:30.00 | sgeigerbot | robertj: You are? or you aren't? |
| 18:30.07 | robertj | I am |
| 18:30.10 | mintee | yep |
| 18:30.29 | robertj | its running out of a powermac g3 but put in an ohci card because I heard pcilynx was b0rk these days |
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| 18:30.56 | mintee | I figured 2.6.0 would work perfect with the ATA100 card. |
| 18:31.00 | ElectricElf | webdemo |
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| 18:31.03 | ElectricElf | Oops, wrong channel. |
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| 18:31.33 | yazid | mintee: the kind showing up in lines ending SeekComplete, with error code in {}s ? |
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| 18:31.59 | mintee | yazid: Yeah hold... dmesg |
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| 18:32.10 | peterS | mintee: most ATA100 cards, it should, yeah |
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| 18:32.55 | sheyz | (yazid) it wont let me force it either. |
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| 18:33.08 | yazid | think it`s error 0x51, not sure from memory, LUCKILY I seldom see those... but usually the raid driver will degrade instantly in this case |
| 18:33.21 | yazid | sheyz: it won`t? with what error? |
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| 18:33.40 | sheyz | ermm, may I msg you the pasted output? |
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| 18:33.58 | yazid | sheyz: mkay |
| 18:34.07 | Severian_ | when you download packages with the "apt-get install xx --download-only" option, where does the download go? |
| 18:34.17 | De_Mon | hmmm swiss or harvarti on my roast beef sandwitch? |
| 18:34.18 | Mon | peterS: i have the options mentioned by dpkg... still it doesn't start |
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| 18:34.23 | mintee | Well, I got one of the 5 drives that make up the raid on the MB IDE bus and the other 4 on the ata100 card |
| 18:34.27 | yazid | Severian_: /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 18:34.33 | fcrick | haha i've got it...man this disassembly stuff is fun :) |
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| 18:34.54 | yazid | sheyz: --force-depends |
| 18:34.55 | De_Mon | fcrick you like the dentist too i bet |
| 18:35.03 | Severian_ | yazid: thank you! |
| 18:35.15 | fcrick | De_Mon: no, but its satisfying when you figure stuff out |
| 18:35.54 | peterS | Mon: does syslog tell you why? read /var/log/syslog. |
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| 18:36.05 | fcrick | De_Mon: this program jumps all around in data memory, but i tracked down that its really just decrypting a section of data memory, and jumps there when its done |
| 18:36.05 | yazid | fcrick: more fun to learn network protocols. it REALLY helps with mail server problems when you speak fluent IMAP |
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| 18:36.50 | yazid | fcrick: teso.scene.at/projects/objobf/ should interest you |
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| 18:37.58 | yazid | ok, got to ask an "any experts on" question: anybody experienced with the amd/am-utils automounter? |
| 18:38.03 | mintee | Jan 6 14:33:29 freshstation kernel: hdf: 234441648 sectors (120034 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(100) |
| 18:38.09 | mintee | Jan 6 14:33:29 freshstation kernel: hdf:<4>hdf: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61 |
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| 18:38.45 | fcrick | yazid: thanks this looks neato |
| 18:38.52 | zi0n- | who hack shells? |
| 18:38.56 | AcidBurn2 | when i dselect i get this... dselect: the access method area is already locked |
| 18:39.02 | yazid | mintee: this kind i don`t know. i`ve seen CRC errors, which usually WILL trigger measures |
| 18:39.03 | AcidBurn2 | what does that mean? |
| 18:39.05 | Krait | beep beep, retard alert. |
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| 18:39.13 | zi0n- | lol Krait |
| 18:39.15 | asg | !tell zi0n- about ask |
| 18:39.16 | zi0n- | im kidding |
| 18:39.17 | zi0n- | lol |
| 18:39.19 | glick | does anyone know what "normal mode" means in the supported list of gphoto? |
| 18:39.36 | tim_ | mintee: I have seen this on a failing IDE drive |
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| 18:39.59 | yazid | fcrick: "status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }" is what i mean |
| 18:40.10 | mintee | yazid: Oh, well is there anyother way to remove that directory with out fscking my entire raid device? |
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| 18:40.21 | mintee | Yeah those too |
| 18:40.24 | fcrick | yazid: huh? |
| 18:40.33 | mintee | I gotta get this data off before this thing dies |
| 18:40.43 | asg | glick: http://www.wse.jhu.edu/newtnotes/main_file.php/hardware/54/ (might shed some light -- scroll down) |
| 18:40.46 | yazid | fcrick: sorry, wrong address |
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| 18:41.26 | tim_ | mintee: you can try to dd the drive. dd has an option to continue after read failuer |
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| 18:41.30 | yazid | mintee: 0x51 is 75% likely to be a cable fault, 25% drive is b0rken |
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| 18:42.42 | mintee | tim_: the drive is a RAID device 468GB. Where am I gonna dd that too? LOL |
| 18:42.54 | tim_ | lol :) |
| 18:42.59 | peterS | mintee: /dev/null usually has a pretty high capacity |
| 18:43.04 | mintee | ROFL |
| 18:43.07 | asg | peterS: ouch! :) |
| 18:43.29 | yazid | mintee: fscking is a good idea. but MAKE SURE you don`t get anymore hardware errors |
| 18:43.32 | peterS | asg: it's true, I've copied all kinds of stuff to there and it hasn't filled up on me yet |
| 18:43.40 | AcidBurn2 | when i dselect i get this... dselect: the access method area is already locked |
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| 18:43.42 | AcidBurn2 | what does that mean? |
| 18:43.46 | abolande | peterS: And it's great for backups, too! |
| 18:43.54 | peterS | abolande: very fast |
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| 18:44.01 | abolande | yup |
| 18:44.05 | Pushkin | hey all |
| 18:44.06 | asg | peterS: http://www.thbz.org/segfault/DevNull.html |
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| 18:44.11 | tim_ | AcidBurn2: you have another instance of dselect/apt-get running |
| 18:44.19 | treestone | mintee: There are DLT drives with 600GB capacity out there.. |
| 18:44.24 | Pushkin | how do i change the reolutoin on a debian/gnome desktop? |
| 18:44.32 | Pushkin | resolution |
| 18:44.47 | mintee | Well.. hell, I'll just fsck it the users can just get over it for the nex few hours |
| 18:44.47 | danieru | Pushkin, you read the manual |
| 18:44.54 | mintee | <- BOFH |
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| 18:45.06 | mintee | treestone: They still make DLT |
| 18:45.13 | treestone | Ype |
| 18:45.14 | Pushkin | anyone else? |
| 18:45.18 | mintee | Never have used tapes. |
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| 18:45.21 | treestone | yep even |
| 18:45.22 | Rajan | is there a debian channel for the german users ? |
| 18:45.29 | asg | Rajan: #debian.de |
| 18:45.31 | sgeigerbot | ~german |
| 18:45.32 | | german is probably #debian.de - deutschsprachige Debian-Hilfe gibt es in #debian.de |
| 18:45.32 | AcidBurn2 | tim_: nope |
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| 18:45.43 | markybob | does dpkg keep a log of when packages where installed? is there any way to see which packages were installed/upgraded on a particular day? |
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| 18:45.47 | Rajan | thx |
| 18:45.49 | treestone | mintee: I wouldn't dare using disks without having tape backup somewhere.. |
| 18:45.51 | markybob | s/where/were |
| 18:46.13 | yazid | what kind of tape device do yall recommend these days? got (at work) dds which is unreliable and small, and ait which has far too damn expensive media |
| 18:46.30 | dondelelcaro | !status |
| 18:46.31 | dpkg | Since Thu Jan 8 18:45:41 2004, there have been 0 modifications, 0 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands. I have been awake for 49s this session, and currently reference 22899 factoids. I'm using about 15176 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 3.14/0.13 child 0/0 |
| 18:46.32 | Pushkin | can anyone tell me how to change the resolution on a debian/gnome desktop |
| 18:46.42 | mintee | No offence, But I'm betting treestone is > 30yearsold. Mintee is <30yeardold |
| 18:46.57 | asg | Pushkin: CTRL+ALT+KP_+ or KP_- (and read the man pages) |
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| 18:47.11 | yazid | treestone: usually a raid should be a bit more reliable... but such setups should be well tested before going into production |
| 18:47.12 | AcidBurn2 | tim_: nope no other |
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| 18:47.32 | asg | dondelelcaro: whoo hoo! :) |
| 18:47.33 | Deanocide | where in menuconfig is ide-scsi |
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| 18:47.45 | fcrick | wow this program is amazing...decrypts this big block, the the decrypted code at the head of the block decryptes more of the same block... |
| 18:47.48 | mintee | yazid. Like I said with my 2.4.20 kernel it's been used for like almost 2 years now. |
| 18:47.51 | peterS | dondelelcaro: cool |
| 18:48.11 | treestone | yazid: Unfortunately I'm not up to date on prices, but I know that DLT drives used to be horribly expensive, now at least the 80GB drives are cheap. The DLT media used to be extremely expensive as well, don't know if that's still true. DLT is better than DAT anyway, except that cartridges can't take shocks. Linear looks good. Tapes can be more reliable than disks in fact. |
| 18:48.25 | mintee | Deanocide: ide-scsi emulation is not needed anymore,... if your using 2.6 |
| 18:48.31 | tim_ | AcidBurn2: I get "dselect: the access method area is already locked |
| 18:48.35 | Deanocide | i'm using 2.4.23 |
| 18:48.36 | yazid | good dislk test: fill disk to the rim while watching the log for anything that looks like a data fault. if just one occurs, that setup ain't reliable enough |
| 18:48.41 | tim_ | when I have two instances of dselect |
| 18:48.59 | argonel | Pushkin: man XF86Config-4 |
| 18:49.00 | mintee | treestone: what i correct about the age difference thing? |
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| 18:49.20 | treestone | mintee: Being > 30 just means that you've got more time to accumulate disk disaster episodes :-) |
| 18:49.25 | mintee | Deanocide: Oh, i cannot rememmebr them |
| 18:49.29 | tim_ | AcidBurn2: maybe you have a stale lock file from an old dselect - but this never happend to me |
| 18:49.34 | yazid | treestone: you can almost get a 35G harddisk for what a 35G AIT tape costs |
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| 18:49.52 | Pushkin | argonel i tried manually editing that file... and restart x... nothing happened |
| 18:49.53 | asg | Deanocide: should be in the IDE configuration section |
| 18:50.00 | treestone | yazid: Right. If you can get IDE disks that small at all :-) |
| 18:50.20 | mintee | treestone: Very very very tru. But us young'ens don't believe in tapes... To many music tapes screwed up our car stereos when we were 16 ;) |
| 18:50.24 | De_Mon | treestone heh |
| 18:50.28 | argonel | Pushkin: the mode it picks is the first one that works |
| 18:50.40 | treestone | mintee: Bad idea to compare with car tapes :-) |
| 18:50.51 | yazid | treestone: take em from the heap of RMA exchanged DTLAs I suspect every IT shop has ;-) |
| 18:50.57 | mintee | I know... But it 'twas funny |
| 18:51.03 | Pushkin | argonel... yep... did that... still nothing |
| 18:51.09 | mintee | ok, thinks kids... TTYL |
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| 18:51.10 | argonel | Pushkin: do you have dontzoom? |
| 18:51.18 | De_Mon | dont tape backups decay over 10yrs? |
| 18:51.24 | De_Mon | after |
| 18:51.28 | Pushkin | argonel... have no idea of what that is... so probably not |
| 18:51.35 | dnc | Pushkin: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and select the resolution you want... |
| 18:51.39 | yazid | De_Mon: so do some types of hard discs and CDs |
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| 18:52.17 | argonel | Pushkin: guess you didn't read the manpage very closely :) |
| 18:52.24 | treestone | mintee: Maybe I should explain my background a bit.. I've always been working with customers that need and produce a huge amount of data (compared with what's usually the norm at anyone time). I tell you, without tapes there would be no business.. |
| 18:52.31 | Pushkin | dnc thanks man :) |
| 18:53.11 | mintee | treestone: When I got to that level, That's when I begged the CEO got get dual f820 netapps. |
| 18:53.25 | streuner_ | What could block SSL-connections (except firewall)? |
| 18:53.26 | glick | asg, thank you |
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| 18:53.30 | mintee | and he did |
| 18:53.33 | treestone | mintee: Right now I'm planning a system for a customer who needs 8 SCSI channels and lots of tape drives. |
| 18:53.44 | asg | glick: yw |
| 18:53.45 | mintee | sweet |
| 18:53.58 | treestone | netapps can be good. |
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| 18:54.05 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: inetd? |
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| 18:54.36 | streuner_ | sgeigerbot: you think it's something in inted.conf? |
| 18:54.45 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: Not likely... |
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| 18:55.24 | mintee | treestone: We had the evaul Netapp just to play with for like 3 months. One morning I was awaken by a call from california, saying they appologize for my downtime and the problem was taken care of. |
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| 18:55.36 | treestone | wow |
| 18:55.38 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: I'm just trying to think of *anything* that could block the connection. I'm thinking it's not something on your network, but can you eliminate that as a possible cause? |
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| 18:55.40 | streuner_ | sgeigerbot: woody box works, but the sid box (all boxes are behind an gateway) |
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| 18:55.53 | yazid | treestone: what backup software you recommend? amanda eats tapes like they were for free, bacula tends to fsck up internally too easily, plain tar scripts tend to get unmanageable, afbackup is really confusiing, veritas is too damn expensive... |
| 18:56.02 | Pushkin | dnc i am in there now... at it won't let me select anything over 800x600 |
| 18:56.03 | Pushkin | :( |
| 18:56.06 | Pushkin | why is that? |
| 18:56.19 | mintee | treestone: At first i didn't know what they were talking about until I check my mail and the filesystem on the netapp went down for 45 seconds. And that was just the eval, Told the CEO and he said GET THEM! |
| 18:56.25 | argonel | Pushkin: dpkg won't let you? |
| 18:56.33 | Pushkin | argonel no... |
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| 18:56.48 | dnc | Pushkin: depends on your monitor/videocard |
| 18:56.50 | streuner_ | sgeigerbot: no, have almost no knowledge about inted |
| 18:57.01 | mintee | yazid: I like dAR |
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| 18:57.33 | Pushkin | i have a new monitor and a tnt2 card |
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| 18:58.14 | treestone | yazid: Although I work with lots of data, very little of that is for "normal" backup purposes, so I'm not an authority there. Internally we just use amanda for taking care of our CVS repositories. All the huge tape systems use customized software. We're happy enough with amanda, full backup once a week and incremental each day. |
| 18:58.14 | argonel | Pushkin: read /var/log/XFree86.log and find out what its doing |
| 18:58.14 | sgeigerbot | yazid: I don't know...I use tar. But here are some other options you could check into: backuppc and bru |
| 18:58.17 | Pushkin | ok |
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| 18:58.58 | treestone | mintee: Impressive. We've been looking a little bit into Netapp here as well, but we haven't actually used them internally ourselves yet. |
| 18:59.05 | yazid | sgeigerbot: backuppc is an option now i managed to concentrate all the relevant stuff on one nfs server. |
| 18:59.25 | De_Mon | whats netapp |
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| 18:59.40 | mintee | treestone: Get an eval. They hand them out like candy and you can keep them for a while too. |
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| 18:59.52 | mintee | treestone: Super super super expensive though |
| 18:59.54 | sgeigerbot | yazid: It can backup only one server? |
| 19:00.06 | mintee | snapmirror rOx |
| 19:00.14 | mintee | snapshots rOx too |
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| 19:00.33 | mintee | Murphy's Law |
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| 19:00.42 | De_Mon | moore's law |
| 19:00.44 | dondelelcaro | treestone: that's why you have sacrificial disks around... |
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| 19:01.11 | dondelelcaro | s/ed/t/ |
| 19:01.13 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: Can't you put a box on the same segment as the ssl server and figure out whether you can make ssl connections? (without any devices other than a hub or switch between the two boxes) |
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| 19:01.30 | yazid | sgeigerbot: wouldn't know it was distributed. and good so... i experimented with some distributed (amanda, bacula, afbackup...) system and just fopund they are a) HUGE potential security holes and b) too much work to set up and TEST |
| 19:01.40 | asg | dondelelcaro: and simonrvn to provide timely astrological charts |
| 19:01.41 | sgeigerbot | dondelelcaro: Stick to cheezy poofs. |
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| 19:02.40 | asg | streuner_: try openssl s_client (like telnet but via ssl for protocol debugging) |
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| 19:03.12 | yazid | sgeigerbot: and i think untested backup is more dangerous than raid+no backup+prayer+caution |
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| 19:03.23 | tof_ | Did you heard about a site doing statistics on most frequently used packages? I can't remember it... |
| 19:03.34 | abolande | I tried to use Windows to burn Knoppix once but it failed. I found a friend w/ Linux and had him burn it. I labeled the dead disk "defraction of light demo disc". |
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| 19:04.27 | MikeH | anyone have any idea how to change an interfaces MTU? I've done it before, but cant remember how i did it |
| 19:04.36 | teclo | Greetings. Know a lightweight web browser ? Note: I've tried dillo but it doesnt render animated gifs, so I can't use dillo... |
| 19:04.44 | asg | treestone: how man thousands did that cost you? |
| 19:04.44 | thomas_a1am | MikeH: how do you mean? |
| 19:04.48 | yazid | treestone: 2000 to 6000 bucks is the price i heard that costs |
| 19:04.52 | MikeH | thomas_adam: nevermind, i have it |
| 19:04.55 | caphuso | MikeH: ifconfig |
| 19:05.01 | asg | MikeH: ifconfig |
| 19:05.02 | MikeH | ive got it now anyway |
| 19:05.31 | coolnewbie | i installed gnome 2.4 but it fails to boot i am using sarge i got gnome partially from unstable by pinning |
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| 19:05.57 | tempo | how do i resolve Couldn't open SMTP server 127.0.0.1:25! running exim? |
| 19:05.57 | zi0n- | i need helo please |
| 19:06.02 | abolande | There was an article in either Scientific American or Science News years ago about a team using an electron microscope to read a disk that had all its data "erased". That's why the military declassifies hard drives by sandblasting them. |
| 19:06.03 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: apt-get install ippl ...and then you should be able to see whether the client is able to reach your box...so that would also tell you whether a port is being blocked on a network. |
| 19:06.08 | MikeH | tempo: by starting it? :) |
| 19:06.15 | zi0n- | im upgrading my ports and see when i do make update in .usr.ports |
| 19:06.17 | zi0n- | Parsing supfile "/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile" |
| 19:06.17 | zi0n- | Connecting to cvsup.es.FreeBSD.org |
| 19:06.17 | zi0n- | Connected to cvsup.es.FreeBSD.org |
| 19:06.17 | zi0n- | Rejected by server: Access limit exceeded; try again later |
| 19:06.17 | zi0n- | Will retry at 15:21:45 |
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| 19:06.34 | yazid | treestone: what i would REALLY need now is just a tar workalike that can handle a changerfull as ONE big medium |
| 19:06.38 | treestone | yazid: What you say is very true. When we started using Exabyte drives/tapes in a production environment we found out that they will produce crappy tapes most of the time, unless you constantly maintain them. And you have to use a cleaning tape after *every* tape, if you use new media. |
| 19:06.48 | MikeH | hrmm, would have sworn this was #debian, not #freebsd :) |
| 19:06.49 | tempo | MikeH: i did. i restarted exim. nothing changed |
| 19:07.01 | MikeH | tempo: have yuo checked that exim is actually running? |
| 19:07.04 | asg | tempo: did you configure exim first (eximconfig) ? |
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| 19:07.17 | asg | MikeH: might be Debian/BSD |
| 19:07.19 | tempo | MikeH: yes. exim is running |
| 19:07.30 | tof_ | I'm looking for a package that list what packages you are using, and send the list to a web server for statistics... Any idea? |
| 19:07.32 | tempo | asg: i have configued exim |
| 19:07.35 | MikeH | asg: you mean freebsd ports is available for debian? |
| 19:07.38 | treestone | asg: The disk crash I mentioned was about 10-11 years ago, it cost around 2000 US$ as far as I can recall. |
| 19:07.44 | yazid | treestone: i heard exabytes have all the maintenance needs of DAT drives (which they are) but are very reliable IF you maintain them |
| 19:07.57 | asg | MikeH: no, there is a project to have a Debian like structure on a BSD kernel |
| 19:07.59 | streuner_ | asg, sgeigerbot: openssl s_client connect: Connection refused |
| 19:07.59 | streuner_ | connect:errno=29 |
| 19:08.01 | tempo | MikeH: 438 0.0 0.0 1332 424 pts/0 R 14:08 0:00 grep exim |
| 19:08.05 | bayes | i want to run a program (icat) from crom, but this program prompts for a password. Anybody have a clue how i can supply this password in a script? |
| 19:08.06 | asg | treestone: not bad |
| 19:08.07 | MikeH | tempo: and its binded to 0.0.0.0? and listening for port 25 in its config |
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| 19:08.15 | eve123 | hello |
| 19:08.19 | MikeH | tempo: erm, thats your ps -aux | grep exim giving your that |
| 19:08.50 | bayes | s/crom/cron |
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| 19:08.58 | MikeH | tempo: but by default exim is run from inetd so it wont show up |
| 19:09.06 | ferm | now that's a big name, zxvf |
| 19:09.14 | tempo | MikeH: understood. |
| 19:09.17 | MikeH | tempo: check your exim config files on what ip it binds to, and also that it is set to listen on port 25, |
| 19:09.43 | MikeH | tempo: and make sure iptables isnt interfering, just stop them quickly and then try |
| 19:09.46 | yazid | treestone: i only have first hand experience with DDS3 and AIT, where i found AITs take a lot of a beating but are too fscking costly |
| 19:09.54 | eve123 | i'm trying to configure my sagem 908 ethernet modem for a adsl connection but it doesn't work and i don't understand the message that says rp-pppoe : system call error. What does it mean ? |
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| 19:10.26 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: are you checking all the possible logs on the server? Are you using ippl to get even more info (probably will be in /var/log/syslog)? |
| 19:10.29 | Truman | Is there anyone how have tried to have two promise controllers in their system and found all harddrives? |
| 19:10.44 | treestone | yazid: Certainly better than DAT, that's for sure. One customer writes to lots of exabyte drives in parallel for about 20 hours a day. Each day about one in eight to ten drives will have a write error. They use a cleaning tape after each full exabyte tape. They rotate the drives with refurbished ones every three months. This is actually quite good, before they started using these routines they were unable to produce data (they send tapes to custome |
| 19:10.49 | yazid | eve123: you might still need to have the pppoe and/or ppp kernel drivers loaded |
| 19:10.56 | streuner_ | sgeigerbot: i simply want connect to my bankaccount |
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| 19:11.19 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: oh, so you don't control the server... I see. |
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| 19:11.23 | tempo | MikeH: thx |
| 19:11.38 | dnc | eve123: with ehternet modem you mean that your modem connecto to your pc via ethernet card? |
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| 19:11.52 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: maybe they limit which clients are allowed to connect... |
| 19:11.59 | yazid | treestone: well, that sounds what i heard happens when you put a damn video tape into an exb8200?! |
| 19:12.01 | eve123 | dnc : yes |
| 19:12.11 | yazid | damn my grammar today |
| 19:12.18 | dnc | eve123: are you sure you need the ppoe stuff? |
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| 19:12.32 | streuner_ | sgeigerbot: nah, the other box works fine, and has the same ip and debian installed |
| 19:12.34 | treestone | yazid: When you put a video tape into an exb8200 you will get sticky residue on the exb8200 heads. Not good. |
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| 19:12.42 | eve123 | yazid : i've loaded the ppp driver. pppoe is a kernel driver ? |
| 19:12.56 | streuner_ | sgeigerbot: no matter if i use links-ssl or galeon |
| 19:13.02 | yazid | eve123: there is a pppoe kernel driver, rarely used though |
| 19:13.06 | streuner_ | sgeigerbot: or mozilla |
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| 19:13.25 | yazid | eve123: not sure what your hardware needs. rp-pppoe should work with just a ppp driver loaded |
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| 19:14.04 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: ahhh...what about Internet Exploiter? |
| 19:14.25 | eve123 | yazid : but as i remember i never installed installed any rp-pppoe driver....how can i do this ? An apt-get woul help me ? |
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| 19:14.41 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: Ah, I see...I forgot--one box works, the other doesn't... |
| 19:14.53 | De_Mon | i just use pppd |
| 19:14.54 | gratuit | has anyone gotten mozilla-firebird to use the blackdown .deb java-plugin? and if so did you have to do anything special to get it to work? |
| 19:14.57 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: Do you have iptables? |
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| 19:15.09 | Pythos | Howdy, Im seeking instruction on using EXIM with a database. Anyone familliar? |
| 19:15.10 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: If so, try "/etc/init.d/iptables clear" |
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| 19:15.24 | streuner_ | sgeigerbot: iptables -L -> nothing |
| 19:15.24 | yazid | eve123: rp-pppoe is purely userspace |
| 19:15.24 | dnc | eve123: i could be wrong, but you probably don't need the pppoe stuff with your modem |
| 19:15.27 | necrite_ | hi all |
| 19:15.29 | tof__ | How can one knows if debian users use more this package (ex:apt-proxy) or that one (ex:apt-cache)? |
| 19:15.41 | dondelelcaro | tof__: they're totally different. |
| 19:15.47 | yazid | eve123: sorry, i might have misread your original question |
| 19:15.57 | gratuit | I copied the plugin to the plugins directory, but about:plugins still shows nothing(works fine in galeon though) |
| 19:16.09 | dnc | gratuit: there was some trouble with version of glibc differing for sid (don't know about sarge) |
| 19:16.16 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: mabye iptables has a problem. perhaps try the clear command.. If that doesn't work, try apt-get remove iptables ...and then reboot. |
| 19:16.24 | eve123 | yazid : should i install rp-pppoe ? |
| 19:16.29 | necrite_ | anyone knows how can i sing my emails (with sylpeed MUA) without attach the body email? |
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| 19:16.42 | yazid | eve123: depends on your hardware. what was it again? |
| 19:16.52 | tof__ | dondelelcaro: oopps: bad examples :-( But they have roughtly the same function : downloding once a package for more than one machine... |
| 19:16.53 | dondelelcaro | necrite_: uh, but you want to use pgp_mime... |
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| 19:17.12 | dondelelcaro | tof__: that's what apt-proxy does, but its not what apt-cache does. |
| 19:17.23 | necrite_ | dondelelcaro .. i gess. with gpg program |
| 19:17.23 | yazid | necrite_: if you want to sing them bass, a body attachment is good to have.... |
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| 19:17.30 | caphuso | dondelelcaro: i think he means apt-cacher, not apt-cache |
| 19:17.39 | tof__ | dondelelcaro: arrrgh, I see s/apt-cache/apt-cacher/ |
| 19:17.41 | dondelelcaro | caphuso: could be... |
| 19:18.00 | treestone | Talking about disks and backup.. this is where I usually bring up the exception to the crash rule. I have three SCSI disks (fujitsu) which have been in use since around 1989 (the oldest one), I got them in 1992 and they have run 24/7 since then, been off only three or four times since then (very short power breaks). No errors, no backup :-) It probably helps that they are kept in their own, cool box instead of inside the computer box. |
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| 19:18.18 | gboutwel | Where can I get an netinstall for SID? Or how do install SID from the get-go using the woody or even testing netinstalls? |
| 19:18.19 | dondelelcaro | tof__: I'd imagine more people use apt-proxy, but try them both out... |
| 19:18.28 | eve123 | dnc, yazid : i'm trying to configure my adsl connection with an ethernet sagem 908 modem but i doesn't work. i get the error messsage : rp-pppoe system call error; i don't know what it means. |
| 19:18.32 | necrite_ | yazid may be.. but i see in the mailling list.. some users just add at bottom the sign |
| 19:18.35 | sgeigerbot | gboutwel: do a netinstall and then apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 19:18.57 | gboutwel | I thought apt-get dist-upgrade was depricated. |
| 19:19.04 | dondelelcaro | gboutwel: 1) there aren't any. 2) you probably shouldn't install sid until you know how to do that. Hint: read the debian reference. |
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| 19:19.14 | sgeigerbot | gboutwel: not that I know of. |
| 19:19.17 | tof__ | dondelelcaro: that's the "I'd imagine" that I want to clarify :-) |
| 19:19.17 | dondelelcaro | gboutwel: no, its just not something you should do unless you know what it does. |
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| 19:19.24 | yazid | treestone: i am setting up a 600gb hardraid at work now, my biggest concern is that someday the backplane/controller in that thing might call it a day, not that disks might fail |
| 19:19.35 | retroflex | anybody here using a sun4u? |
| 19:19.38 | dondelelcaro | tof__: popularity really doesn't matter... if it works for you, use it. |
| 19:20.14 | dondelelcaro | yazid: that's why nice setups have multiple controllers... |
| 19:20.16 | gboutwel | That is isntalling woody, then upgrading to SID. I want to install SID from the get go. I know what I'm doing. I had SID installed, it's screwed-up, but luckily it's on a testing machine so I just want to start from scratch but I want to start from scratch with SID. |
| 19:20.17 | treestone | yazid: which controller is it? |
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| 19:20.33 | caphuso | gboutwel: you can |
| 19:20.33 | tof__ | dondelelcaro: You're right. I'm dumb, I just like statistics :-) |
| 19:20.37 | caphuso | gboutwel: you can't install sid from scratch |
| 19:20.38 | gboutwel | Can I just boot the netinstall, then drop to cli, modify the /etc/apt/sources.list and then go from there. |
| 19:20.43 | yazid | treestone: it`s a real hardraid, older arena frame |
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| 19:20.47 | dondelelcaro | tof__: well, there's popcon, which should help somewhat... |
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| 19:21.11 | unixfool` | why is the default 2.4 kernel setting max 1Gb mem? Does the having a 4Gb memory limit change anything? |
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| 19:21.25 | asg | unixfool`: only if you have >1Gb memory |
| 19:21.25 | zork | how install a .deb ? |
| 19:21.28 | dondelelcaro | unixfool`: if you have more than 1G of ram, yes. |
| 19:21.29 | sussudio | ~pity unixfool` |
| 19:21.35 | | I pity da fool unixfool`! |
| 19:21.35 | yazid | treestone: whole machine looks like a huge U2W disk to the host |
| 19:21.35 | dondelelcaro | zork: dpkg -i it |
| 19:21.39 | zork | txs |
| 19:21.41 | unixfool` | haha |
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| 19:21.53 | tof__ | dondelelcaro: That's it! Thanks! |
| 19:22.04 | treestone | yazid: I don't know that one. In my limited experience with RAID systems I had some problems once, but when the disks were replaced with better one it never bothered me more. |
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| 19:22.12 | unixfool` | I do have more than 1Gb, Why is 4Gb not the default, is there some performance hit or something? |
| 19:22.32 | caphuso | unixfool`: yes |
| 19:22.37 | gypsymauro | Hi, I'm trying to use an USB pen, I installed usb-uhci/ohci modules and usb-storage but I've nothing in /proc/bus/usb/devices in sid... something wrong with the kernel? |
| 19:22.50 | unixfool` | caphuso: how bad? |
| 19:23.04 | caphuso | unixfool`: not much, but measurable |
| 19:23.26 | unixfool` | caphuso: ah, ok, thanks :) |
| 19:23.36 | yazid | treestone: this frame will instantly discard a disk that errors |
| 19:24.31 | dnc | gypsymauro: do you have the hotplug or equivalent package installed? |
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| 19:24.32 | treestone | yazid: It'll transparently keep the "virtual" huge disk available? |
| 19:24.34 | abrotman | but where does the default of 960MB come from? |
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| 19:25.09 | gypsymauro | dnc: I've hotplug |
| 19:25.11 | Esaj | what should I use for simple firewalling in linux 2.6? |
| 19:25.24 | yazid | treestone: yes. the raid semantics are in the device itself. that`s why i am worried, should the whole thing fail one day with no spare for the controller available |
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| 19:25.47 | caphuso | Esaj: iptables |
| 19:25.51 | necrite_ | tks anyway |
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| 19:26.14 | treestone | Esaj: If your firewalling needs are simple then it's easy enough to use iptables directly. If your firewalling needs are complicated then maybe you should use some additional layer (shorewall or whatever) |
| 19:26.23 | XpTerminator | hello |
| 19:26.32 | gypsymauro | dnc: in the kernel log I can't see usb-storage setting the device (like sda1) for it.. |
| 19:26.33 | Esaj | ok cheers - wasn't sure if iptables supported 2.6 |
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| 19:28.09 | treestone | yazid: I see. Well, on the RAID system that holds our CVS repositories we use tape backups as well. Even though when it used to fail in the past (before we replaced the disks) it could always repair itself, it was just that we had to take it down to do that operation. Of course, if you have a 600 GiB RAID system you really would need one of those very expensive tape systems in order to back it up.. |
| 19:28.10 | dnc | gypsymauro: dunno, usually having the right UHCI/OHCI should be enough |
| 19:28.42 | yazid | treestone: what i need to do actually is keep data sorted by importance ;-) |
| 19:28.50 | treestone | gypsymauro: You need scsi too I think. |
| 19:29.01 | gypsymauro | treestone: I've ide-scsi |
| 19:29.16 | gypsymauro | dnc: I'm thinking isn't USB 2.0 compliant:( |
| 19:29.26 | yazid | treestone: and thus find a backup cycle to do it with the 4x35 AIT at hand |
| 19:29.56 | CueballUK | I got a small problem with my server. Since my last re-install my server has taken a while to connect to from the external IP. This happens with the FTP, and E-mail. But if I connect to it's internal IP it connects instantly. Any idea's? |
| 19:29.57 | treestone | yazid: Hm, hierarchical storage systems.. SGI and others have them. |
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| 19:30.18 | dnc | gypsymauro: never tried with a usb memory pen, only with a iomega zip usb |
| 19:30.51 | tof__ | Hmm is there a way to get the list of installed packages, with no reverse dependencies (with no other package depending of them)? |
| 19:30.58 | gboutwel | I have an AMD K6-2 400 machine. What kernel-image should I run. the k6-2 kernel-image seemed to be a little flaky and rebooted on me. Can I get away with using the i686, or should I stick with the i386 and call that good? |
| 19:31.13 | dnc | gypsymauro: mi spiace, non ho altre idee... |
| 19:31.21 | dnc | see ya all |
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| 19:31.26 | CueballUK | gboutwel: Compile you own :D |
| 19:31.34 | yazid | gboutwel: i486 should work too, i686 could really bite you |
| 19:31.42 | treestone | gypsymauro: If it's USB mass storage then you need scsi in the kernel (could be module), not ide-scsi. In addition to uhci or ohci and usb-storage. |
| 19:31.48 | mintee | is amanda for tape backup only? |
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| 19:32.01 | treestone | gypsymauro: It'll look like a scsi disk (e.g. /dev/sda1) when you plug it in. |
| 19:32.17 | gypsymauro | treestone: modprobe "scsi" |
| 19:32.18 | gypsymauro | ? |
| 19:32.20 | yazid | gboutwel: and if it reboots on you, probably the hardware is flaky. hint: ASUS P5A tends to get a flaky 2nd level cache, try with it switched off |
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| 19:32.49 | myXtie | anybody here get source from rsync.kernel.org::pub/scm/linux/kernel/bkcvs ? what do you do about headers in source for compile ? |
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| 19:34.03 | mintee | Anyone anyone... is amanda for tape backup only? |
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| 19:34.28 | yazid | treestone: talking about scsi disks, i actually got bitten by the 15 partitions limit recently |
| 19:34.40 | dondelelcaro | yazid: 15 partition limit? |
| 19:34.43 | gboutwel | yazid> I'll try that. I'll probably end-up compiling my own kernel anyways. I want this to host UMLs, so I'll probably be putting a kernel with the SKA3/4 patch on it. |
| 19:34.43 | Zenox | I'm using Courier and it works great to SMTP AUTH alot of clients including Thunderbird and Sylpheed, but when authing with Outlook Express i get "Relaying denied" (it's a broken client). Anyone know how to fix this? |
| 19:35.00 | treestone | gypsymauro: I'm not on the right computer right now.. I think it's 'sr' though, not 'scsi'. Look in your lib/modules (if you know that your kernel is compiled with scsi module) |
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| 19:35.21 | yazid | dondelelcaro: all scsi disks are major 8, 16 disks with 15 parts +whole |
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| 19:36.06 | treestone | yazid: There's a 15 partition limit somewhere? Where? I use LVM all over the place so I don't see any such limits. |
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| 19:36.21 | peterS | treestone: scsi disks have a 15 partition limit in the kernel, I believe |
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| 19:36.32 | kollo | how to patch up distances b/w networks ethernet & ppp anyone ? |
| 19:36.34 | dondelelcaro | yazid: yeah, hadn't read that part , but there are actually 128 possible scsi discs... |
| 19:36.36 | yazid | treestone: so do i |
| 19:36.42 | sgeigerbot | treestone: Why do you need so many partitions? |
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| 19:37.06 | sgeigerbot | treestone: for breaking up huge volumes for backups? |
| 19:37.09 | yazid | dondelelcaro: sure? then probably there are more majors |
| 19:37.11 | peterS | treestone: this stems from device numbers - sda is (8,0), sda15 is (8,15), sdb is (8,16) |
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| 19:37.29 | CueballUK | I got a small problem with my server. Since my last re-install my server has taken a while to connect to from the external IP. This happens with the FTP, and E-mail. But if I connect to it's internal IP it connects instantly. Any idea's? |
| 19:37.34 | treestone | peterS: Oh I see. That kind of limit. |
| 19:37.44 | dondelelcaro | yazid: yes, there are 8 other major numbers... [if I can multiply correctly...] |
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| 19:37.59 | peterS | treestone: with IDE drives, hdb is (3,64) so I guess you can probably have 63 partitions on those |
| 19:38.46 | yazid | treestone: what i tried was dividing same raid into ca. 45 slices, and build lvm OVER part of that. i don't really trust lvm, been bitten royally one time |
| 19:39.00 | kollo | now i'd like to ask question is there any software on linux/freebsd base available that i can remove distance, i mean to say if i will ping to any where it will give time=1ms |
| 19:39.04 | treestone | sgeigerbot: I split into different logical volumes and filesystems, for different purposes. With LVM I just grow them as needed and I have lots of spare GiB's to add here and there. df -l|wc -l gives 29 at the moment.. |
| 19:39.05 | kollo | how can i do that |
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| 19:39.20 | dondelelcaro | yazid: I wouldn't be surprised though, if someone has a hack to split partitions over multiple "discs" in /dev... [or use devfs FE] |
| 19:40.14 | qtio | dondelelcaro: we did that once years ago... I cant remember how though |
| 19:40.18 | yazid | dondelelcaro: kernel hacks + more than 4 servers to maintain + holes like mmremap == royal pain to manage updates |
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| 19:40.55 | dondelelcaro | yazid: that's why you use make-kpkg. |
| 19:40.56 | treestone | CueballUK: DNS setup problems maybe? |
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| 19:41.07 | dondelelcaro | yazid: patches in one directory, modules in another, configs in a third. |
| 19:41.34 | dondelelcaro | yazid: I made 8 separate kernel packages with one command on monday or tuesday... |
| 19:41.46 | yazid | dondelelcaro: i already do, and yet i am glad i now can work with ONE kernel package for all our servers but one (an odd EISA machine that only works with 2.2.x for some reason) |
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| 19:42.09 | dondelelcaro | yazid: yeah, these boxen are all wildly different, so they have to have separate kernels... |
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| 19:42.55 | yazid | dondelelcaro: talk of wildly different ... here: 486 EISAs and P4s |
| 19:43.06 | yazid | dondelelcaro: and much in between |
| 19:43.18 | Nurbs | as long as it's x86 :) |
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| 19:43.42 | sussudio | ~macsmite Nurbs |
| 19:43.46 | | ACTION sends Steve Jobs around Nurbs's place with the lead pipe and the thermal grease |
| 19:43.59 | Maveric | what are the packages for xwindows again |
| 19:44.05 | Maveric | i can't remember |
| 19:44.11 | yazid | dondelelcaro: and i really don`t care whether a 486 kernel wastes .05% performance on a P4 |
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| 19:44.23 | Nurbs | sussudio: I thought of the ambiguity of that statement too late :) |
| 19:44.23 | sgeigerbot | ~+lazy x |
| 19:44.25 | | rumour has it, lazy x is 'apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect;dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xfree86 xfree86-common;apt-get install xserver-xfree86 xfree86-common' |
| 19:44.44 | Maveric | thank you |
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| 19:45.44 | treestone | Maveric: Also try 'apt-cache show x-window-system', that could be what you want. |
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| 19:46.58 | yazid | that lazy x recipe is misleading. on a blank system it will leave you fontless |
| 19:47.04 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: did you figure out the ssl problem? |
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| 19:48.04 | sgeigerbot | ~+lazy x is also ...<yazid> that lazy x recipe is misleading. on a blank system it will leave you fontless (If so, how can that be changed?) |
| 19:48.06 | | okay, sgeigerbot |
| 19:48.10 | streuner_ | sgeigerbot: no |
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| 19:48.48 | somiaj | streuner_: apache-ssl on sarge by chance? |
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| 19:49.16 | streuner_ | somiaj: i want make a simple ssl-connection to my bank |
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| 19:49.57 | somiaj | streuner_: ahh, doesn't sound like it should be that diffcult...(: |
| 19:50.00 | zhengyi | streuner: is the connection complaining about an intermediate cert? |
| 19:50.08 | streuner_ | somiaj: anything blocks the SSL-connection, not an firewall, not inetd |
| 19:50.34 | gboutwel | Has someone backported Apache2 for/to woody? So far I've been compiling from source, but I can't seem to get the right configure options. |
| 19:50.45 | caphuso | sgeigerbot: the "lazy x" factoid assumes that you have x-window-system-core installed |
| 19:50.49 | streuner_ | s/anything/something/ |
| 19:51.01 | somiaj | gboutwel: /msg dpkg simple backport, also check out apt-get.org and backport(s).org |
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| 19:51.13 | yazid | ~+lazy c is also <yazid> check that at least xfonts-misc,xfonts-100dpi,xfonts-75dpi,xfonts-scalable,xutils,xbase-clients are installed for a workstation |
| 19:51.15 | | yazid: okay |
| 19:51.20 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: inetd would block only incoming connections, but not outgoing ones. I didn't understand what you were doing when I mentioned that. |
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| 19:52.00 | sgeigerbot | yazid: Since when is C a font phenomenon? |
| 19:52.03 | streuner_ | sgeigerbot: fine, the problem is that it didn't even connect to the https-server at all |
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| 19:52.18 | yazid | ~+lazy x is also <yazid> check that at least xfonts-misc,xfonts-100dpi,xfonts-75dpi,xfonts-scalable,xutils,xbase-clients are installed for a workstation |
| 19:52.20 | | okay, yazid |
| 19:52.24 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: can you traceroute to it? |
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| 19:52.29 | yazid | sgeigerbot: dang...! killall typod |
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| 19:53.29 | yazid | ~+lazy c is also lazy apt is cannot be bothered to find out how to delete factoids again |
| 19:53.31 | | yazid: okay |
| 19:53.39 | sgeigerbot | ~ forget lazy c |
| 19:53.45 | tof__ | how to find the list of packages depending of package x ? |
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| 19:53.49 | kandinski | ~macsmite kandinski |
| 19:53.53 | | ACTION sends Steve Jobs around kandinski's place with the lead pipe and the thermal grease |
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| 19:54.19 | somiaj | tof__: apt-cache show <pkgname> |
| 19:54.21 | yazid | tof__: apt-cache showpkg x |
| 19:55.08 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: ...but that box can connect to other ssl servers? |
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| 19:55.31 | streuner_ | sgeigerbot: as i said before, the other box is able to... |
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| 19:55.53 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: No, I mean the sid box--can *it* connect to anything via ssl? |
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| 19:56.45 | streuner_ | sgeigerbot: traceroute works via ICMP, not with UDP |
| 19:56.57 | tof__ | somiaj | yazid : thanks! Do I have to write a script to get the list of packages with no reverse dependencies? |
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| 19:57.04 | peterS | streuner_: depends on your implementation. some traceroutes use UDP or even TCP SYN |
| 19:57.23 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: Okay, sorry...this is what I was thinking of: traceroute-nanog - Determine route of packets in TCP/IP networks (NANOG variant) |
| 19:57.25 | kandinski | hey, how many bots here? I count apt, dpkg and debhelper. any faq for them? |
| 19:57.27 | LoRez | streuner_: original traceroute uses udp packets to odd ports |
| 19:57.36 | LoRez | kandinski: /msg $bot help |
| 19:57.39 | peterS | tof__: you might be looking for 'deborphan' |
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| 19:57.59 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: Um...that's probably wrong |
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| 19:58.04 | giuppi | how do i clean a dds2 tape ? (i have the cleaning cassette) |
| 19:58.07 | peterS | kandinski: there is also 'bunnies', 'ravenbird' and 'modconf'. they are not all around at once, though |
| 19:58.10 | zhengyi | streuner_: have you tried using `openssl s_client -connect host:port`? |
| 19:58.15 | tof__ | peterS: by the name of this one, I can say that I was looking for it. Thanks! |
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| 19:58.50 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: Sorry about that. *THIS* is what I was thinking of: http://www.MainNerve.com/fft/ LFT (formerly FFT) is an alternative traceroute program for displaying the route packets take to an IP network host/socket. Unlike Van Jacobson's traceroute, which is available on almost every platform today, LFT uses TCP in order to elicit ICMP TIME_EXCEEDEDs or other IP route data |
| 19:58.51 | Zap-W | anyone here use putty? |
| 19:58.52 | qtio | has anyone here played with any AI bots (offshoots of A.L.I.C.E)? |
| 19:58.59 | sussudio | ~tell Zap-W about polls |
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| 19:59.09 | Zap-W | does the program sftp behave like psftp |
| 19:59.21 | somiaj | !tell Zap-W about polls |
| 19:59.23 | kandinski | LoRez, peterS: thanks, but you proved my point. Too many bots, too many syntaxes. |
| 19:59.24 | sussudio | ~fruitsmite Zap-W |
| 19:59.27 | | ACTION smites Zap-W with a dozen apples |
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| 19:59.27 | abrotman | Zap-W: it should afaik |
| 19:59.28 | Zap-W | shut up |
| 19:59.28 | peterS | Zap-W: psftp uses the sftp protocol, if that's what you're asking |
| 19:59.38 | Zap-W | no , the syntax |
| 19:59.40 | sussudio | Zap-W: you shut up, moron. |
| 19:59.44 | Zap-W | i dont have a windows box to try it on |
| 19:59.45 | LoRez | kandinski: they're all blootbots afaik so they should use the same syntax |
| 19:59.56 | peterS | kandinski: actually all of the above, except debhelper, are the same codebase (locally modified in most cases, but still close to the same). |
| 20:00.04 | thomas_adam | @comfort thomas_adam |
| 20:00.08 | ravenbird | There, there, thomas_adam. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 20:00.09 | somiaj | Zap-W: if you really like putty, you can't get putty for debian..apt-cache show putty |
| 20:00.21 | somiaj | s/show/search/ |
| 20:00.28 | peterS | kandinski: the main difference between them is which trigger character you can use in lieu of the bot's irc nick, to get its attention |
| 20:00.29 | thomas_adam | Zap-W: slightly related is "pterm" |
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| 20:01.00 | thomas_adam | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.02 | | methinks @ is where it's at |
| 20:01.02 | kandinski | LoRez, peterS: thanks. I meant on different channels overall. But it's nice to know here in debian they all will respond similarly |
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| 20:01.20 | peterS | kandinski: ah |
| 20:01.25 | Zap-W | ok thanks |
| 20:01.28 | g4lt | @@? |
| 20:01.29 | ravenbird | hmm... @ is where it's at |
| 20:01.32 | thebug | @ @ |
| 20:01.32 | ravenbird | [@] where it's at |
| 20:01.33 | sgeigerbot | streuner_: ah, it looks as if lft is in debian |
| 20:01.33 | abrotman | Zap-W: putty is available for linux iirc |
| 20:01.51 | thebug | yarrr |
| 20:01.52 | Zap-W | the package has only putty |
| 20:01.55 | peterS | kandinski: the reason for the mad proliferation of bots on #debian seems to be several people all wanting to solve the same problem of bots going offline from time to time and no bot being available |
| 20:02.03 | thomas_adam | abrotman: putty was born out of Linux's tools |
| 20:02.13 | Zap-W | putty-tools |
| 20:02.27 | abrotman | linux's tools? |
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| 20:02.46 | abrotman | i just said it was available for linux .. afaik .. a few years ago .. putty was just for windows(as an app) |
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| 20:02.49 | lord_rob | so kernel 2.6.0 is also vulnerable (as I read in the topic) ? |
| 20:02.58 | neil | i wanna totally update all software on my system using apt, what command should I issue? |
| 20:03.09 | toothpick | Hello, I want to dist-upgrade this stable installation on an old laptop, but the drive is too small to handle it. |
| 20:03.09 | thomas_adam | neil: apt-get -u dist-upgrade |
| 20:03.20 | somiaj | neil: /msg dpkg stable->testing |
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| 20:03.32 | thomas_adam | toothpick: as long as your /var partition is large enough, you *might* be ok |
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| 20:03.33 | toothpick | Can I mount a network drive and put the debs there and upgrade from there? |
| 20:03.36 | jeanmi_ | Hi |
| 20:03.37 | peterS | lord_rob: yes. 2.6.1-rc2 has a fix, 2.6.1-rc3 fixes the fix |
| 20:03.39 | neil | will that do everything, including kernel? |
| 20:03.49 | thomas_adam | neil: yes |
| 20:03.53 | tof__ | tof__: /msg dpkg stable->testing |
| 20:03.59 | abrotman | no .. it wont do the kernel |
| 20:04.05 | toothpick | Can a dist-upgrade be done in portions? |
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| 20:04.12 | thomas_adam | toothpick: no |
| 20:04.14 | toothpick | so all debs don't need to be downloaded at once? |
| 20:04.24 | sussudio | toothpick: yes. just do it manually. |
| 20:04.26 | thomas_adam | toothpick: unless you either hold packages or update packages manually |
| 20:04.33 | toothpick | ok, I'll do some manually |
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| 20:04.36 | abrotman | toothpick: if you need to disconnnect(like a modem) the download will pickup where it left off |
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| 20:04.44 | toothpick | I wish I coudl just debootstrab over my current system. |
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| 20:05.01 | jeanmi_ | so I just bought a USB Hard Drive and the file system on it is vfat. Can I change it to another one (ext2/3, ReiserFS) and if yes, is it worth having a journalised file system on such a drive ? |
| 20:05.11 | lord_rob | peterS: hehe, I won't mess with rc kernels anyway :) |
| 20:05.13 | glick | excuse me im trying to connect my digital cam to my box and i know its supported but i get this from dmesg when i connect it to the usb port |
| 20:05.16 | glick | new USB device 00:1d.0-1, assigned address 2 |
| 20:05.16 | glick | usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x4a9/0x3072) is not claimed by any active driver. |
| 20:05.29 | glick | im using ghoto2 and digikam |
| 20:05.32 | peterS | lord_rob: suit yourself. I think 2.6.0 itself is just about as risky. it's only a "stable kernel" in name |
| 20:05.36 | glick | does anyone know how to get this working |
| 20:06.04 | JimButton | jeanmi_: sure you can change it |
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| 20:06.31 | JimButton | jeanmi_: and vfat is only worth it if you really want to access it with all sorts of different OSes |
| 20:06.36 | jeanmi_ | also, is it possible to partition a USB drive ? I bet it's not because it has been assigned /dev/sda1 |
| 20:06.43 | JimButton | jeanmi_: of course it is |
| 20:06.50 | JimButton | jeanmi_: the drive is /dev/sda |
| 20:06.52 | lord_rob | peterS: i'm using 2.6 since test6, and don't have any problem with it. I'm not running a entreprise server or so, it's just my home computer |
| 20:07.01 | jeanmi_ | JimButton accessing from other OSes would be my argument for keeping vfat |
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| 20:07.15 | peterS | lord_rob: I hardly think 2.6.1-rc3 is more risky than 2.6.0-test6, e.g. |
| 20:07.19 | JimButton | jeanmi_: it is just a normal drive, use (c)fdisk and mkfs like you would for a normal hard drive |
| 20:07.29 | jeanmi_ | JimButton ok |
| 20:07.36 | thebug | JimButton: you're making the risky assumption that something else isn't using /dev/sda |
| 20:07.41 | jeanmi_ | JimButton but should I prefer a journalised FS ? |
| 20:07.49 | thebug | like another USB device, or a real SCSI drive |
| 20:07.54 | JimButton | thebug: what? you say that two devices can get assigned /dev/sda? |
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| 20:08.07 | jeanmi_ | JimButton because in the worst case, ext2 can still be read from window with ext2plorefs (not sure about the name of the program) |
| 20:08.07 | JimButton | thebug: that would be a kernel bug, imho |
| 20:08.12 | jeanmi_ | explore2fs |
| 20:08.14 | thebug | no, i'm saying something else might be sda if you have it |
| 20:08.24 | thebug | USB hard drive does not automatically mean sda... |
| 20:08.29 | JimButton | thebug: he said that his partition was /dev/sda1 |
| 20:08.39 | thebug | JimButton: ah, I missed that |
| 20:08.45 | JimButton | thebug: otherwise, sure |
| 20:08.45 | maihem | I just tried the new 2.6.0-1-k7 deb, but the initrd image is a bit too big to boot (4136/4096). Anybody know how I can fix this? |
| 20:08.46 | thebug | then yes, sda...sorry |
| 20:09.23 | thebug | I thought you just blindly recommended overwriting sda (!) :) |
| 20:09.23 | JimButton | jeanmi_: journaled FS is a matter of taste or usage patterns :) |
| 20:09.23 | lord_rob | peterS: is kernel 2.4.24 also vulnerable from the new flaw just discovered ? |
| 20:09.28 | JimButton | jeanmi_: i am happy with ext2 here |
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| 20:09.40 | jeanmi_ | JimButton OK then I will prefer this one |
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| 20:09.55 | thebug | JimButton: there's always ext3...ext2 compatible, and journalled if you like that |
| 20:09.56 | JimButton | jeanmi_: though ext3 seems to be rock-solid, too |
| 20:09.57 | peterS | lord_rob: no, 2.4.24 was released specifically to fix this flaw |
| 20:10.04 | jeanmi_ | JimButton did you partition your disk ? |
| 20:10.29 | JimButton | jeanmi_: yes, sure, but you might have different uses for yours? |
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| 20:11.05 | jeanmi_ | JimButton basically it is for backup of my laptop + storage of huge data such as movie/music |
| 20:11.27 | JimButton | jeanmi_: well, if it is only backup, then you probably don't really need to partition it |
| 20:11.40 | JimButton | jeanmi_: i like to have separate /home and /var partitions |
| 20:12.10 | jeanmi_ | JimButton I just wonder if I should keep a vfat partition |
| 20:12.25 | Maveric | why would you want vfat? |
| 20:21.12 | jeanmi_ | Maveric because all the people around me are using windows |
| 20:21.12 | jeanmi_ | Maveric and for them them, installing explore2fs might too much |
| 20:21.12 | Nurbs | maihem: looking at the web for a few secs I'd guess a ramdisk_size=8192 appended to the kernel parameters could help |
| 20:21.13 | jeanmi_ | Maveric furthermore, I dont know really how efficient explore2fs is, if it work fine |
| 20:21.13 | Zap-W | anyone clue about where ssh logs are kept? |
| 20:21.13 | Maveric | this is a file server right? |
| 20:21.13 | jeanmi_ | : /var/log/auth |
| 20:21.13 | jeanmi_ | Maveric no |
| 20:21.13 | jeanmi_ | Maveric just my laptop |
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| 20:21.14 | guk | configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool <-- what is this exactly requesting ? |
| 20:21.14 | Maveric | why dont you just run samba then? |
| 20:21.14 | maihem | Nurbs, thx, I did't think of that :) I imagined the ramdisks were compiled in :/ |
| 20:21.14 | bayes | i want to run a program (icat) from cron, but this program prompts for a password. Anybody have a clue how i can supply this password in a script? |
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| 20:21.14 | Zap-W | thanks |
| 20:21.14 | jeanmi_ | Maveric I was just thinking about that ;) |
| 20:21.14 | Maveric | no need for other explore2fs |
| 20:21.14 | jeanmi_ | Maveric "clever spirits sometime meet" ;) |
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| 20:21.14 | jeanmi_ | Maveric actually yes |
| 20:21.14 | tof | jeanmi_ : install ext2/3, and go around with a knoppix cd... |
| 20:21.14 | jeanmi_ | Maveric only when I really go to someone who is not on the net and in that case it is fine |
| 20:21.15 | argonel | in /var/log some files are of root's group and others of adm. is there a way to make all of the files be of adm? |
| 20:21.15 | jeanmi_ | tof no. You don;t know how users are ;) |
| 20:21.15 | jeanmi_ | tof anyway I think samba is simply the solution |
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| 20:21.15 | jeanmi_ | mke2fs is very slow indeed |
| 20:21.15 | jeanmi_ | there are 895 inodes to write |
| 20:21.15 | jeanmi_ | only 32 have been done yet (since 1 minute) |
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| 20:21.17 | tra1a1a | hi all |
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| 20:21.18 | tra1a1a | does anyone know what is going to happen if I install linux-kernel-headers package when I have installed 2.6.0 kernel from the sources? |
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| 20:21.19 | JimButton | tra1a1a: your head will explode |
| 20:21.19 | somiaj | tra1a1a: the linux-kernel-headers are part of libc6 dependencies, so everything should be ok |
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| 20:21.19 | caphuso | jeanmi_: did you use mke2fs -c? |
| 20:21.19 | tra1a1a | somiaj, ok but I think those headers are in the kernel source, aren't they? |
| 20:21.31 | tra1a1a | s/those/these |
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| 20:22.12 | somiaj | tra1a1a: I have a source compiled kernel and those linux headers installed just fine. |
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| 20:22.50 | ElectricElf | (Bloody client thinks I'm desynced.) |
| 20:23.10 | dondelelcaro | ElectricElf: heh. I forgot that I hadn't loaded my auto_bleh script... /me had to ban by hand... |
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| 20:23.21 | ElectricElf | dondelelcaro: As it happened, so did I :) |
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| 20:24.08 | tra1a1a | somiaj, I see. My concern is that 2.6.0 is not yet in the packages, so there might be differences between 2.4 and 2.6 headers |
| 20:24.17 | mintee | Duplicate/bad block(s) in inode 5308422: 13767248 5243088 5242960 5242960 524296 |
| 20:24.17 | mintee | 0 5242960 5242960 5242960 5242960 5242960 5242960 5242960 5242960 5242960 524296 |
| 20:24.21 | mintee | YAY! |
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| 20:24.44 | kandinski | !tell kandinski about polls |
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| 20:25.20 | somiaj | tra1a1a: I have kernel-image-2.6.0, kernel-headers-2.6.0 (both made with kp) and linux-kernel-headers all working together well, the linux-kernel-headers are part of the libc6 dependencies now. |
| 20:25.29 | InfinityO | hey, anyone know how to get the latest net_isnt images.. the debian.org website dosnt seem to wanna let me... |
| 20:26.00 | tra1a1a | somiaj, that's great! Thanks a lot! |
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| 20:26.15 | LoRez | ElectricElf: you can remove that now =) |
| 20:26.33 | AgentDave | oh crap |
| 20:26.47 | AgentDave | just installing ... got pased the taskel and dselect prompts |
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| 20:27.06 | AgentDave | deb goes to DL some stuff from an apt source, and i accidently maul the KB causing it to bail |
| 20:27.21 | jamesho | I've just apt-get install phpmyadmin but I don't know where it has been put, it's not in the webserver root, where has it gone? |
| 20:27.23 | AgentDave | at 3% ... is there anyway to recover this at a later date ... says to run install again but i really dont want to go through all that |
| 20:27.48 | AgentDave | oh wait it's asking to retry |
| 20:28.03 | comar | jamesho: you have to look first in /usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin/ |
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| 20:28.50 | jamesho | connar: thanks for that I'll look. |
| 20:28.54 | tra1a1a | I have marked one package as "hold". How can I remove the mark? |
| 20:29.24 | comar | jamesho: !! connar is not comar !! ;) |
| 20:29.29 | caphuso | tra1a1a: /msg dpgk hold |
| 20:29.51 | caphuso | tra1a1a: err, /msg dpkg hold |
| 20:29.56 | tra1a1a | thanks |
| 20:30.09 | frehal | i need a cpu&mem usage applet for kde do you know any? |
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| 20:30.47 | jamesho | connar: sorry, misread. I have really bad fonts under mozilla for some reason. Know how to fix? |
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| 20:31.40 | danilo_ | the exim server is pop or imap ? how can i configure the fetchmail to download my mails in my own server? |
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| 20:32.02 | mintee | find / -size +10 -exec mv {} /dev/null ; |
| 20:32.07 | LoRez | danilo_: neither, smtp. |
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| 20:32.38 | lcolleton | I just upgraded nfs on my server and now I get an error when trying to mount a share. mount: RPC: Program not registered |
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| 20:33.06 | SocketERR | is it possible to block the "spanning tree protocol" via firewall rules? |
| 20:33.10 | LoRez | lcolleton: restart portmap maybe? |
| 20:33.12 | lcolleton | I tried to restart portmap and the nfs daemons but I still get the same error. |
| 20:33.15 | [zimba] | I tried to install debian on VMware, but it doesn't detect the emulated SCSI HDD.. what should I do ? |
| 20:33.24 | danilo_ | LoRez: como asi: poll smtp.midominio.com proto smtp username "dffsa" password "ldfksd" ? |
| 20:33.38 | LoRez | danilo_: man fetchmail |
| 20:33.44 | tra1a1a | lcolleton, this is an error that I have seen many times. I couldn't understand when it is appearing and how it is fixed. |
| 20:33.50 | peterS | lcolleton: run 'rpcinfo -p' to see what your portmapper thinks is running and not running |
| 20:33.53 | TerryG | has anybody made the pcmcia sockets work ok a tosh libretto? |
| 20:34.08 | TerryG | ok=on |
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| 20:34.16 | danilo_ | LoRez: bu is right to put smtp.mydomain.com ? |
| 20:34.44 | peterS | lcolleton: on an NFS server you should be running portmapper, 'nfs' and 'mountd' at minimum. preferably 'nlockmgr' and 'status' as well |
| 20:35.06 | lcolleton | peterS: I get mountd and nfs, along with portmapper, status and nlockmgr |
| 20:35.34 | peterS | lcolleton: those are the ones you want. why something would complain about the program not being registered is a good question, then. |
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| 20:38.03 | lcolleton | I'm not sure if this has any effect, but this has appeared in my daemon.log: |
| 20:38.06 | lcolleton | Jan 8 11:02:10 crow exportfs[13738]: /etc/exports [3]: No 'sync' or 'async' option specified for export "10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0:/home". Assuming default behaviour ('sync'). NOTE: this default has changed from previous versions |
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| 20:38.57 | REyM | je kan natuurlijk altijd bij #creativehosting.nl kijken |
| 20:39.46 | [zimba] | can't you help me ? I don't know how to detect VMware's SCSI drivers |
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| 20:40.31 | [zimba] | plt :p |
| 20:40.31 | REyM | ARG, sorry for ad :S |
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| 20:42.34 | pixelmonkey | hey there, I'm trying to install alsa-modules-2.4.22 but apt is trying to force me to install kernel-image-2.4.22 due to a dependency. I just want the modules, I don't want the debian stock image |
| 20:42.55 | pixelmonkey | is there some different package I should be going for? |
| 20:43.05 | greycat | pixelmonkey: yes, alsa source. |
| 20:43.12 | sussudio | ~poep op REyM |
| 20:43.28 | REyM | sussudio, sorry sorry sorry :S |
| 20:43.30 | pixelmonkey | greycay: ah |
| 20:43.56 | REyM | did amsg, wasn't thinking it would go to other servers as well :S |
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| 20:46.13 | [zimba] | arr |
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| 20:47.06 | sussudio | ~test |
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| 20:49.26 | qtio | when i apt-get install anything it tries to finish the installation of these foomatic filters and just hangs I have to control c out of it. how can i fix this? *** filter.conf (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? |
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| 20:51.06 | Jacobo221 | qtio: maybe dpkg --purge foomatic? |
| 20:51.16 | caphuso | qtio: have you tried hitting enter at that prompt? |
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| 20:51.22 | Jacobo221 | qtio: if you don't need it, of course, but as you don't seem to have it configured... |
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| 20:52.08 | SexyKen | Hey guys. |
| 20:52.16 | fcrick | hey SexyKen |
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| 20:53.05 | SexyKen | I'm having a problem. I compiled qmail and vpopmail (not using debian distros etc) and when I upgraded libc it stopped working...I'll show you the error: |
| 20:53.06 | SexyKen | Task 'mail.chrome-x.com - Sending and Receiving' reported error (0x800CCC92) : 'Your e-mail server rejected your login. Verify your user name and password in your account properties. Under Tools, click E-mail accounts. The server responded: ld.so: Incorrectly built binary which accesses errno or h_errno directly.' |
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| 20:56.51 | Justin_ | SexyKen: thats why there is qmail-src |
| 20:56.51 | SexyKen | I was hoping you guys could give me some help. |
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| 20:56.51 | SexyKen | Justin, I'm asking how I can fix this problem, not start all over. |
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| 20:56.52 | Justin_ | SexyKen: you need to upgrade qmail, duh |
| 20:56.52 | pixelmonkey | is there any way to handle on-the-fly audio mixing (i.e. two MP3s playing simultaneously) using just alsa modules and not esd? |
| 20:56.52 | SexyKen | Justin: Why would I need to upgrade qmail? That will be a lot of work. |
| 20:56.52 | Justin_ | SexyKen: thats why there is qmail-src |
| 20:56.52 | kandinski | pixelmonkey: check out sweetcode.org, they have nice software projects and they had something very much like what you need that run from console |
| 20:56.52 | caphuso | SexyKen: because your version is broken in a way that requires patching and recompilation |
| 20:56.52 | SexyKen | I have a very custom mail system, or so I believe. qMail with vPopmail and SQL |
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| 20:56.52 | kandinski | you might need to look in the archive |
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| 20:56.54 | SexyKen | And a few other things like autoresponders etc. |
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| 20:57.53 | caphuso | uh, is there any reason why you'd lose all that by fixing qmail? |
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| 20:58.07 | SexyKen | Because they have to be compiled together? |
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| 20:58.27 | caphuso | SexyKen: and that magically deletes all your oh so custom configuration? |
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| 20:58.57 | Darkheart | Hmm.... How do I set up a video4linux? I have an error that it is not supported by this kernel (2.4.22-686) What did I do wrong? |
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| 20:59.06 | SexyKen | Yes. |
| 20:59.07 | caphuso | Darkheart: you didn't load the modules |
| 20:59.07 | SexyKen | It does. |
| 20:59.20 | Justin_ | Darkheart: you have an error that WHAT |
| 20:59.35 | caphuso | SexyKen: sucks being you then |
| 20:59.48 | SexyKen | Yea it sure does. |
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| 20:59.52 | run_apt | i'm trying to use sudo to let a single unpriviledged user use apt-get... what's the proper way to do this with sudo? I've obviously added an entry via visudo for the user and apt-get, but there are files in /var that need to be accessed... just change ownership or change permissions, or what? I can make it work by changing ownership of that branch of var, but then another single user couldn't use this... |
| 20:59.55 | SexyKen | And you swear like I remember the configuration line that I had to use |
| 20:59.58 | Darkheart | Error 1- and no definition- but I think Caphuso is correct... I'll be back on it now. |
| 21:00.14 | fcrick | run_apt: add them to sudoers file? |
| 21:00.34 | fcrick | oh nm |
| 21:00.35 | caphuso | run_apt: and those files in /var that need to be accessed are a problem whyß |
| 21:00.39 | caphuso | s/ß/?/ |
| 21:00.40 | Justin_ | Darkheart: _what_ says "error 1" |
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| 21:01.13 | Cire | I try to encode some jpgs to an mpeg file. It works qith the following command line, but when I change the framerate from 25 to 10, it won't work (mpeg2enc: Input stream with unknown frame-rate) |
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| 21:01.38 | SocketERR | how can i read the mac address of a unmanaged switch? |
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| 21:02.02 | Cire | jpeg2yuv -f 10 -j frame-%05d.jpg -I p | mpeg2enc -o video.m1v |
| 21:02.11 | zalaar | hello |
| 21:02.40 | Justin_ | Cire: transcode makes that a lot easier |
| 21:02.50 | Cire | transcode? |
| 21:03.00 | Cire | how does it work? |
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| 21:03.17 | gratuit | is there a gui frontend to transcode, ala gmencoder? |
| 21:03.17 | Justin_ | by reading the documentation? |
| 21:03.22 | Supaplex | ~transcode |
| 21:03.23 | | rumour has it, transcode is a linux video processing tool that can be used to encode divx movies for the zaurus. see http://63.194.216.219/zaurusrip.sh.txt or talk to Onyx4 for any problems/questions. or http://www.theorie.physik.uni-goettingen.de/~ostreich/transcode/ or a faster and better alternative for transcode is see mencoder |
| 21:03.41 | Justin_ | eh? |
| 21:03.46 | caphuso | mencoder isn't an alternative for transcode |
| 21:03.48 | Justin_ | mencoder is not "faster and better" what retard added that |
| 21:03.53 | Cire | thanks, I'll give it a try |
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| 21:04.01 | Cire | (transcode) |
| 21:04.10 | sussudio | ~factinfo transcode |
| 21:04.10 | | transcode -- it has been requested 13 times, last by Supaplex, 47s ago. |
| 21:04.17 | Supaplex | apt is only as smart as the goofs that teach it :) |
| 21:04.19 | | Supaplex: i don't know |
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| 21:05.19 | xenohugs | apt smells like beef jerky 8-| |
| 21:05.22 | | no idea, xenohugs |
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| 21:05.32 | xenohugs | Take a bath foo. 8-| |
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| 21:05.57 | dippo | anyone here ever set up amanda for backups? |
| 21:06.02 | ratlab | hi, is it possible to set an inactivity timeout to run a programm? |
| 21:06.07 | dippo | how does it expect to talk eo clients it backs up? |
| 21:06.13 | fcrick | xenohugs: just open the window :) |
| 21:06.14 | pabl0 | uhm, I have a boot floppy (Debian), how can I prevent that then it boots it doesn't scans the hard disks?.. It's scanning (fdisk, I think) many of them.., very very slow |
| 21:06.23 | ratlab | like i want that lockvc is started after 2 minutes of inactivity |
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| 21:07.18 | heisenbug | how can I find out which users are logged on to my machine? |
| 21:07.25 | abrotman | w |
| 21:07.27 | somiaj | heisenbug: who |
| 21:07.37 | heisenbug | allright, thanks |
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| 21:08.41 | Justin_ | ratlab: you could definitely make it do it, the system keeps track of that information... |
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| 21:09.42 | ratlab | Justin_: and does there exist something to do this job? |
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| 21:10.28 | RtroFlash | bob2: Thax for the help yesterday. I had probs with 2.6.0 mounting a cdr & dvdr....Rather then downgrade back to 2.4.20 I went to 2.6.0-test11 and it went without a hitch. Everything works very very well now. Thanx again! |
| 21:10.32 | heisenbug | will 'who' also list users loggen in via SSH or SFTP? |
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| 21:10.51 | greycat | heisenbug: yes, and no, respectively. I think. |
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| 21:11.20 | greycat | heisenbug: it would be far more effective if you'd just *try* it... |
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| 21:11.33 | ratlab | or does someone know where the system keeps track of inactivity? |
| 21:11.37 | heisenbug | I would like to know how many users are using sftp at the moment |
| 21:11.45 | somiaj | heisenbug: who list all users who have a login shell, so it won't list ftp, sftp, scp and such. |
| 21:11.50 | heisenbug | greycat: that's right, sorry |
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| 21:12.20 | greycat | somiaj: more correctly, it lists anything that's written an entry into utmp. Which could be a shitload of xterms.... |
| 21:12.28 | qtio | does anyone know where sftp can be found at openssh.org? Im on one of the ftps but all i see are tarballs of openssh |
| 21:12.39 | greycat | qtio: it's part of ssh |
| 21:12.46 | somiaj | heisenbug: ps faux will list process and by user name and will show forks off of sshd for the sftp users, though you may want to parse it. |
| 21:13.13 | somiaj | qtio: why not just apt-get install ssh (sftp is part of openssh) |
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| 21:13.26 | heisenbug | somiaj: cool thanks :) |
| 21:13.46 | qtio | ok i already have it then, but do i need a sftp server? |
| 21:13.49 | mechan0r | make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. that's all i get when I try to build alsa |
| 21:13.54 | greycat | qtio: it's part of sshd. |
| 21:13.58 | mechan0r | for every driver |
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| 21:14.03 | jason_ | does anyone here know how to throttle a cpu manually? |
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| 21:14.21 | greycat | jason_: you mean underclocking? |
| 21:14.27 | somiaj | qtio: when a program seends and sftp requests to the ssh server, it will launch sftp for that request. |
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| 21:14.55 | jason_ | greycat, no, i have a laptop with a centrino, and I want to set the cpu speed down.. not exactly underclocking, juts control speedstep myself |
| 21:15.01 | jason_ | err i mean pentium-m |
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| 21:15.14 | somiaj | jason_: that would depend on your mother board. |
| 21:15.22 | Darkheart | bbl |
| 21:15.23 | ClemYeats | hi everyone |
| 21:15.47 | qtio | somiaj cool! do any configuration files need to be edited? |
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| 21:16.02 | ClemYeats | My Xwindow freezes after a while, I really don't know what to do.. |
| 21:16.08 | jason_ | its really annoying becuase the damn fan keeps coming on, but i figure it i clock it down to 1ghz or something low like that.. it'll be quiet |
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| 21:16.36 | qtio | ClemYeats does everything freeze? |
| 21:16.40 | ClemYeats | yes |
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| 21:16.53 | somiaj | qtio: nope, though some sfpt clients (gftp for example) may need to be pointed to the sftp module /usr/lib/sftp-server (since its not in the default $PATH) |
| 21:16.55 | ClemYeats | the whole computer, keyboard, mouse.. |
| 21:17.20 | exobyte | is there a way to disable encryption with scp? I want to do a faster copy. |
| 21:17.35 | JimButton | exobyte: use rsync instead |
| 21:17.36 | RinzeWind | exobyte: Use -c blowfish as an argument |
| 21:17.41 | sussudio | !blow fish |
| 21:17.53 | qtio | ClemYeats you can troubleshoot the hardware with memtest86 (memtest86.org) to see if the memory is causing it, otherwise Your cpu might be overheating... mine used to do that until i put another fan in my computer |
| 21:18.00 | sussudio | !literal CMD: blow (.*?) |
| 21:18.00 | dpkg | CMD: blow (.*?) is ($nick): <action> blows $nick |
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| 21:18.06 | JimButton | exobyte: rsync -e ssh ./foo remotehost:bar |
| 21:18.17 | sussudio | !CMD: blow (.*?) =~ s/$nick/$1/ |
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| 21:18.36 | somiaj | ClemYeats: I had a simlar problem due to bad video card memory. |
| 21:18.54 | _necromaniac_ | is there any app that makes cda images from mp3 files? |
| 21:19.12 | ClemYeats | somiaj: I have an old AGP ATI Rage 128, 32Mo |
| 21:19.21 | somiaj | _necromaniac_: use apt-cache search and find one, there is one like mp3burn or burnmp3 i belive. |
| 21:19.22 | ClemYeats | somiaj: how did you fix it ? |
| 21:19.25 | dvhart | I have just installed debian, and the base-config program always runs after bootup. When I select "Finish configuring the base system" it spews something about an unknown character encoding and unsupported locale (C) and language (en) then returns to the menu. How can I get it to complete? |
| 21:19.40 | _necromaniac_ | somiaj: thanks! |
| 21:19.49 | ercin | i have installed xfree from experimental a few months ago |
| 21:19.53 | exobyte | RinzeWind: why would using blowfish speed things up? |
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| 21:20.11 | ercin | how can i upgrade only the experimental packs ? |
| 21:20.20 | somiaj | ClemYeats: sent my video card back as an RMA and had them fix the problem.....but I would try to find a test to see what the problem could be, there are lots of reasons for X-crashing could be hardwear, could be a faluty driver. |
| 21:20.46 | somiaj | ercin: /msg dpkg pinning |
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| 21:21.13 | Nurbs | exobyte: it's one of the faster algorithms. 3DES really kills performance |
| 21:21.13 | Nurbs | exobyte: there shouldn't be a huge gain over e.g. AES; though |
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| 21:21.38 | ClemYeats | somiaj: any chance it would work better with framebuffer, than in ATI mode ? |
| 21:21.51 | ercin | thnx somiaj |
| 21:21.55 | somiaj | ClemYeats: I doubt it, framebuffers are usually buggy. |
| 21:22.04 | ClemYeats | somiaj: aie.. |
| 21:22.09 | qtio | ClemYeats can you try with another video card to see if thats really your problem? |
| 21:22.32 | ClemYeats | somiaj: yes, I've got another AGP .. a SIS 6326.. |
| 21:22.39 | somiaj | ClemYeats: are you using the X ati drivers, or the ones released from Ati? |
| 21:22.57 | ClemYeats | somiaj: the X ati drivers |
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| 21:24.05 | somiaj | ClemYeats: maybe try the X ones if they work, and the ones that come with the linux kernel...thrid party drivers (such as ati) can some times cause crashes with X...but what you need to do is troubleshoot and figure out what the problem is, hardwear/softwear. |
| 21:24.39 | qtio | somiaj will faulty video drivers cause the whole system to lock up? |
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| 21:24.57 | greycat | qtio: depends on whether the fault is in the kernel half or the X half |
| 21:25.09 | somiaj | qtio: I've seen the 'nvidia' dirvers do it many times, well cause X to lock up and then have to ssh into the machine to reboot it. |
| 21:25.17 | MeccaA4 | on bootup or during install when trying to 'configure network interfaces', it fails and as soon as it tries to configure it via dhcp the light on the back of the card begins to blink slowly instead of a steady glow. I am using the tulip drivers (lne100tx card). help? |
| 21:25.25 | ClemYeats | somiaj: The machine is a server most of the time. Only sometimes I use X on it to browse the internet or get my email.. |
| 21:25.51 | ClemYeats | somiaj: I don't mind a small resolution with normal standard VGA drivers... |
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| 21:26.11 | ClemYeats | somiaj: shall I go for VGA instead of ATI |
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| 21:26.20 | somiaj | ClemYeats: well since you don't use X much, I'd suggest using the linux kernel ati kernel with offical X dirvers instead of the ones from ati, they are usually more stable. |
| 21:26.26 | greycat | ClemYeats: why not just use the xfree86 built-in ati driver? |
| 21:26.33 | qtio | somiaj perhaps thats what my problem was as well ... it hasnt crasshed since i stopped using x and put it in server mode |
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| 21:26.54 | exobyte | Is there a way to get certain users to not show up in the kdm list of users? I still want them to be able to log in |
| 21:26.58 | somiaj | qtio: couldn't help to look into it. |
| 21:27.01 | ClemYeats | greycat , somiaj : These are the one I use. They come from XFree. |
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| 21:27.20 | ddg-mikeeusa | how do i upgrade to unstable? |
| 21:27.25 | greycat | ~sid faq |
| 21:27.26 | | sid faq is, like, http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 21:27.51 | ddg-mikeeusa | not sid |
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| 21:27.54 | ddg-mikeeusa | the middle one |
| 21:27.55 | wilylojik | how to tell the current installed version of a debian package anyone? |
| 21:27.58 | greycat | that would be testing |
| 21:28.02 | ddg-mikeeusa | ooo |
| 21:28.03 | ddg-mikeeusa | ok |
| 21:28.08 | greycat | wilylojik: dpkg -l <pkgname> |
| 21:28.12 | wilylojik | greycat: thanks muh |
| 21:28.14 | ddg-mikeeusa | apt-get dist-upgrade testing? |
| 21:28.15 | wilylojik | much |
| 21:28.19 | greycat | ddg-mikeeusa: /msg apt stable->testing |
| 21:28.47 | MeccaA4 | on bootup or during install when trying to 'configure network interfaces', it fails and as soon as it tries to configure it via dhcp the light on the back of the card begins to blink slowly instead of a steady glow. I am using the tulip drivers (lne100tx card). help? no ideas at all? |
| 21:29.14 | ddg-mikeeusa | testing gets NO security updates |
| 21:29.19 | ddg-mikeeusa | when did this happen?! |
| 21:29.19 | greycat | correct |
| 21:29.21 | ddg-mikeeusa | it used to |
| 21:29.25 | greycat | it never did |
| 21:29.27 | LoRez | ddg-mikeeusa: no, it didn't. |
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| 21:29.42 | ddg-mikeeusa | well i uesd to when i had it on the other laptop |
| 21:29.45 | Nurbs | it did get some at some point |
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| 21:29.52 | LoRez | ddg-mikeeusa: no. |
| 21:29.57 | ddg-mikeeusa | i didnt comment out security |
| 21:29.57 | greycat | you're mistaken |
| 21:29.59 | ddg-mikeeusa | yes it did |
| 21:30.18 | jc-denton | how is the fun politic channel called on freenode? (well i actually just want the bush video) |
| 21:30.31 | ClemYeats | qtio , somiaj, greycat : I'll try different things to figure the problem a little bit better. Thanks for your answers. |
| 21:30.55 | greycat | jc-denton: there's #world-relations |
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| 21:31.22 | Nurbs | the testing/security line in sources.list from ages ago still doesn't give an error and I remember it being used for at least one thing, can't remember what it was, though. Could've been OpenSSH or SSL once |
| 21:31.44 | ddg-mikeeusa | how is sid? |
| 21:31.56 | jc-denton | cool |
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| 21:32.08 | Sully | How do I set the keyboard map in X? |
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| 21:32.27 | quaqo | Bye |
| 21:32.31 | ddg-mikeeusa | jc-denton does it break alot? |
| 21:32.35 | greycat | not a lot |
| 21:32.51 | ddg-mikeeusa | would it be sutable for a laptop |
| 21:32.55 | greycat | usually it only has a few minor problems, but every once in a while (say... once a year) it'll break in some spectacular way |
| 21:33.08 | jc-denton | ddg-mikeeusa, what? |
| 21:33.17 | ddg-mikeeusa | does it get security updates? |
| 21:33.23 | greycat | ~sid faq |
| 21:33.24 | | i guess sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 21:33.45 | Nurbs | greycat: more often if you're clueless :) |
| 21:34.06 | greycat | Nurbs: notice that I never actually told anyone how to "upgrade" to sid... |
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| 21:35.34 | Nurbs | greycat: if one can't read one shouldn't, yep. |
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| 21:35.47 | LoRez | ddg-mikeeusa: no, nothing but stable gets security updates |
| 21:36.10 | ddg-mikeeusa | ah |
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| 21:36.18 | ddg-mikeeusa | well then its testing for me |
| 21:36.21 | ddg-mikeeusa | with fwall |
| 21:36.30 | ddg-mikeeusa | and grsecurity patched kern |
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| 21:36.46 | LoRez | and less enter key |
| 21:36.59 | ddg-mikeeusa | less enter key |
| 21:37.03 | ddg-mikeeusa | less cant find it |
| 21:37.09 | sussudio | ~tell ddg-mikeeusa abou enter |
| 21:37.17 | sussudio | meh. |
| 21:37.23 | gooodies | what is a good package to play wav files? |
| 21:37.28 | gooodies | besides mpg123 |
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| 21:37.30 | ddg-mikeeusa | xmms |
| 21:37.31 | sussudio | ~tell gooodies about search |
| 21:37.32 | LoRez | gooodies: bplay will do it |
| 21:37.32 | pt00 | alguien habla español |
| 21:37.33 | ddg-mikeeusa | play |
| 21:37.36 | sussudio | !spanish |
| 21:37.36 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 21:37.38 | ddg-mikeeusa | play is good |
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| 21:37.47 | gooodies | k thx |
| 21:37.52 | ddg-mikeeusa | !deuch |
| 21:37.59 | ddg-mikeeusa | !list |
| 21:37.59 | dpkg | one warez list being sent |
| 21:38.08 | Nurbs | heh |
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| 21:38.24 | pt00 | someone can help me |
| 21:38.25 | ddg-mikeeusa | !list |
| 21:38.25 | dpkg | one warez list being sent |
| 21:38.27 | ddg-mikeeusa | lol |
| 21:38.27 | xenohugs | !hot_dpkg_fserve |
| 21:38.28 | ddg-mikeeusa | lol |
| 21:38.42 | LoRez | ddg-mikeeusa: play with the bot in private |
| 21:38.45 | abrotman | ~tell pt00 about ask |
| 21:38.50 | sussudio | ddg-mikeeusa: you ride on the short bus, don't you? |
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| 21:38.57 | xenohugs | ! |
| 21:38.58 | ddg-mikeeusa | no |
| 21:39.00 | ddg-mikeeusa | i used to |
| 21:39.02 | ddg-mikeeusa | but |
| 21:39.03 | ^Punk | i have a problem with NAT, i'm trying to forward my internet connection to another pc.. i *think* i have done everything ok, but when i traceroute to an internet ip on the client it says 1. * * * (etc). Any idea what i'm doing wrong (route looks ok to me) |
| 21:39.08 | sussudio | ~enter |
| 21:39.09 | | The enter key or return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '--', or ellipsis '...' instead. |
| 21:39.13 | ddg-mikeeusa | then there were too much of we |
| 21:39.26 | abrotman | pt00: there is a spanish channel also |
| 21:39.28 | bizkit | Gtk-WARNING **: GModule initialization check failed: Gtk+ version too old (micro mismatch) <-- why is that? i'm using SID, and the gtk packages and libgtk are the latest ones |
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| 21:40.01 | sandman | Is there a way to remove EVERYTHING from the system, including cfg files |
| 21:40.13 | sandman | aside from the bare essentials |
| 21:40.16 | abrotman | EVERYTHING? |
| 21:40.18 | sandman | So that I can rebuild the system groundup? |
| 21:40.20 | sussudio | sandman: rm -rf? |
| 21:40.27 | abrotman | apt-get --purge remove |
| 21:40.28 | ddg-mikeeusa | shred |
| 21:40.28 | sandman | sussudio: Please. |
| 21:40.29 | xenohugs | fdisk |
| 21:40.33 | Nurbs | sandman: why don't you rebuild it from the ground up then? |
| 21:40.35 | sandman | abrotman: I mean, everything. |
| 21:40.43 | sussudio | sandman: oh yeah, you're tardboy, i forgot. |
| 21:40.46 | sandman | Nurbs: Because this system is a long ways away. |
| 21:40.49 | abrotman | i just said .. apt-get --purge remove pkgname(s) |
| 21:40.53 | sandman | sussudio: What is your problem, seriously? |
| 21:40.54 | Nurbs | sandman: still... |
| 21:40.55 | Gathond | sandman: format all partitions and reinstall ? |
| 21:40.56 | somiaj | sandman: be more specific...oh not everything...though it might be better to reinstall then remove stuff. |
| 21:41.04 | sandman | sussudio: I put you off ignore for 2 minutes, and you're already at it again. |
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| 21:41.08 | pt00 | need to format a fat32 partiton, i use mkfs.vfat but it tells me its too big |
| 21:41.17 | ddg-mikeeusa | shred dosent 'delete' things, but it does what you wanted it to |
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| 21:41.39 | abrotman | pt00: how big is it? |
| 21:41.45 | pt00 | 5 GB |
| 21:41.56 | Nurbs | format it with FAT32 |
| 21:42.10 | abrotman | does vfat only go to 4gb? |
| 21:42.11 | pt00 | how |
| 21:42.15 | Nurbs | read the docs. |
| 21:42.17 | somiaj | pt00: the bigger a vfat drive gets the bigger you need to make the blocksize bigger, for 5GB try blocksize with 4k or 8k. |
| 21:42.36 | pt00 | ok thanks |
| 21:42.38 | run_apt | what are the best or most widely used routing daemons in the debian archives? I'm seeing quagga most, but I've never heard of it before... and why aren't routed/gated in testing? |
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| 21:43.01 | Nurbs | mkfs.vfat by default uses FAT16, with FAT32 you don't need to change to some huge block size for a 5 GB partition :) |
| 21:43.09 | ddg-mikeeusa | huge vulenerabilitieds |
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| 21:43.41 | ercin | can someone help |
| 21:43.49 | sussudio | fat16 partitions can be max 2GB |
| 21:43.54 | ercin | cant find out how to use apt_preferences |
| 21:43.59 | jc-denton | hey |
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| 21:44.04 | somiaj | ercin: ask your question, not just for help... |
| 21:44.13 | jc-denton | why dont u make microsoft30seconds.org? |
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| 21:44.23 | ercin | to upgrade xfree 4.3 to last pre5 release |
| 21:44.30 | ddg-mikeeusa | whats the max mem a 16 bit proc can address |
| 21:44.34 | jc-denton | s/microsoft30seconds.org?/microsoftin30secons.org |
| 21:44.50 | De_Mon | when are X4.3 deb's going to be out? |
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| 21:45.02 | LoRez | De_Mon: when they're ready |
| 21:45.04 | somiaj | jc-denton: what's the 30sec figure, how long it takes a freshinstall to become unstable? |
| 21:45.12 | zinx | De_Mon: well after XFree86 4.4.0 is out, by the looks of it |
| 21:45.13 | ddg-mikeeusa | yea we need thoes for centrino lappys |
| 21:45.37 | jc-denton | hehe |
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| 21:45.47 | jc-denton | what about an anti microsuck campain |
| 21:45.58 | ddg-mikeeusa | does testing have 4.3? |
| 21:45.59 | jc-denton | they make anti linux campins and host it on a linux server? |
| 21:46.06 | phadell | hello all. I was reading about PEAR and I would like to know if has some problem of using PEAR to develop my software GPL'ed. anyony knows? |
| 21:46.15 | abrotman | ddg-mikeeusa: afaik .. testing is still 4.2.1 |
| 21:46.25 | ddg-mikeeusa | what about sid? |
| 21:46.37 | abrotman | ddg-mikeeusa: afaik .. 4.3 is in experimental |
| 21:46.38 | Nurbs | ercin: "Package: x* Pin: release experimental Pin-Priority: 991" of course the x* is just an approximation which works somewhat ok, better would be an explicit list of packages, but that changes :) |
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| 21:47.07 | ddg-mikeeusa | Nurbs: sid? |
| 21:47.09 | ddg-mikeeusa | ok |
| 21:47.11 | zinx | Nurbs: apt supports wildcards in the package name?! |
| 21:47.12 | Nurbs | experimental |
| 21:47.20 | somiaj | hmm, 'The current XFree86 release is version 4.3.0 which was released on 27 February 2003' <- xfree86.org |
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| 21:47.29 | Nurbs | zinx: in the preferences yes, afaik. |
| 21:47.46 | zinx | Nurbs: last i tried, it only supported '*' as an overall wildcard |
| 21:47.49 | caphuso | who came up with the silly idea of having to use pins to be able to get the experimental X debs? |
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| 21:48.13 | ddg-mikeeusa | Nurbs: if i grabbed the 4.3 x package and put them in testing |
| 21:48.18 | ddg-mikeeusa | would that probally work |
| 21:48.24 | ddg-mikeeusa | caphuso ??? |
| 21:48.26 | Nurbs | zinx: well, a friend was using that and told me it works |
| 21:48.31 | sussudio | oh dear, the people are getting stupid again about what debian actually means. have you seen the number of architectures debian supports? why do these morons expect a package to be on all archs the day after it's released? |
| 21:48.37 | caphuso | ddg-mikeeusa: !!! |
| 21:48.48 | Nurbs | ddg-mikeeusa: no |
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| 21:48.54 | sussudio | somiaj: debian is more than just i386. live with it. |
| 21:49.06 | zinx | sussudio: i don't think anyone expects it to be out a day after it's released, but 4.4.0's about to be out, and 4.3.x still isn't in testing :/ |
| 21:49.09 | ddg-mikeeusa | no :( |
| 21:49.30 | MikeH | can anyone recommend a gui msn and aim client that looks good other than everybuddy, ayttm, amsn, gaim or kopete |
| 21:49.31 | sussudio | zinx: you're welcome to port and test xfree 4.3 to an arch of your choice. |
| 21:49.33 | caphuso | zinx: complain to xfree86 for releasing crap |
| 21:49.40 | zinx | sussudio: erh, 4.2.x rather |
| 21:49.46 | zinx | caphuso: hah :) |
| 21:49.50 | ddg-mikeeusa | caphuso you have to use a 'pin' to use x debs in experimental ? |
| 21:49.52 | caphuso | they're upstream releases are generally far from usable and hardly portable at all |
| 21:50.03 | sussudio | !info xserver-xfree86 testing |
| 21:50.05 | argonel | is xfree86 4.3 crap? |
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| 21:50.17 | dpkg | xserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.1-12.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 4281 kB, Installed size: 11728 kB |
| 21:50.18 | zinx | sussudio: i don't have enough money to purchase computers with which to test with, but i'd be glad to if someone donated said computers of varying architechtures |
| 21:50.21 | sussudio | zinx: is too. |
| 21:50.22 | caphuso | ddg-mikeeusa: you don't need to worry about that, it's too advanced for you |
| 21:50.32 | ddg-mikeeusa | !info xserver-xfree86 sid |
| 21:50.33 | somiaj | sussudio: no we will give ya 2...(;, I know, I love debian for its diversity and also how it is possible to run newer stuff if ya know what your doing...I was just being a trouble maker, sorry...(: |
| 21:50.42 | dpkg | xserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.1-15 (sid), Packaged size: 4296 kB, Installed size: 11832 kB |
| 21:50.42 | ddg-mikeeusa | !info xserver-xfree86 experimental |
| 21:50.44 | zinx | sussudio: sorry, i did mean 4.3.x, my brain isn't fully functional today :) |
| 21:50.48 | ddg-mikeeusa | !info xserver-xfree86 experimental |
| 21:50.48 | LoRez | ddg-mikeeusa: again, play with the bot in private |
| 21:50.48 | dpkg | xserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.3.0-0pre1v5 (experimental), Packaged size: 5322 kB, Installed size: 14780 kB |
| 21:50.49 | sussudio | ddg-mikeeusa: stop it. |
| 21:50.52 | peterS | argonel: for anything other than x86, plain 4.3.0 is far from releasable. Debian supports 11 architectures and someone usually has to port XFree86 to about 10 of these before Debian can use it |
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| 21:51.12 | ddg-mikeeusa | sid != experimental |
| 21:51.15 | ddg-mikeeusa | ? |
| 21:51.20 | Serbitar | sid == testing |
| 21:51.24 | ddg-mikeeusa | ooo |
| 21:51.25 | LoRez | Serbitar: no. |
| 21:51.25 | caphuso | Serbitar: shut up |
| 21:51.27 | peterS | Serbitar: no. sid == unstable |
| 21:51.32 | caphuso | Serbitar: you're making it all worse |
| 21:51.36 | peterS | ddg-mikeeusa: sid != experimental, correct |
| 21:51.40 | ddg-mikeeusa | what is experimental |
| 21:51.40 | Serbitar | no sorry im being systematically moronic tonight |
| 21:51.45 | ddg-mikeeusa | a 4th distro> |
| 21:51.45 | argonel | peterS: oh, right. non x86 platforms. i always forget about them. |
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| 21:51.56 | caphuso | ddg-mikeeusa: no, not a 4th distro |
| 21:52.04 | ddg-mikeeusa | what is it? |
| 21:52.15 | peterS | ddg-mikeeusa: experimental doesn't have any other name. it's just ... experimental. it's not a complete distribution - just individual packages whose maintainers think they're not yet releasable even to unstable |
| 21:52.15 | sussudio | ddg-mikeeusa: are you a troll? |
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| 21:52.16 | somiaj | peterS: I heard sarge is up to 13 archs now...which is quite an acomplishment...(: |
| 21:52.18 | caphuso | ddg-mikeeusa: a place to put stuff in that's too broken for unstable |
| 21:52.22 | peterS | argonel: so does the XFree86 team, apparently |
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| 21:52.25 | argonel | ddg-mikeeusa: http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-resources#s-experimental |
| 21:52.31 | ddg-mikeeusa | sussudio: no dont talk to me |
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| 21:52.50 | sussudio | caphuso: it would have to be actually working for it to be able to get broken, doesn't it? |
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| 21:53.26 | Tlib | i'm trying to get my soundcard setup. i think i have done it correctly but i cant get it to play an mp3 using mpg321, it says cannot find a suitable driver, help! |
| 21:53.32 | caphuso | sussudio: you're making no sense |
| 21:53.36 | smj | Sup fellow Debianites? |
| 21:53.50 | sussudio | caphuso: i'm talking about experimental. |
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| 21:54.08 | caphuso | sussudio: you're still making no sense |
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| 21:54.41 | caphuso | i can't see how "would have to be working to be able to get broken" relates to anything i said |
| 21:54.49 | sussudio | caphuso: for something to be able to get broken, it would have to be working in the first place, which can't really be said about packages in experimental |
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| 21:55.21 | JimButton | sussudio: i think you are exaggerating... |
| 21:55.43 | caphuso | sussudio: i think you should stop taking drugs |
| 21:55.57 | sussudio | caphuso: same to you |
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| 21:56.16 | unixfool` | being broken does not imply it was ever 'fixed' |
| 21:56.29 | Maveric | whats the file i need to edit to stop it from going into xwindows when i boot |
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| 21:56.32 | Maveric | i can't remember |
| 21:56.32 | Maveric | lol |
| 21:56.37 | peterS | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.38 | peterS | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.46 | caphuso | i said "too broken for unstable", sussudio mumbles something about "has to be working to get broken". i really don't see any relationship |
| 21:56.46 | unixfool` | haha |
| 21:56.59 | caphuso | Maveric: apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm gdm login.app pdm |
| 21:57.12 | asg | Maveric: /msg dpkg nodm |
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| 21:58.18 | csaba198 | hi! Do You know is it possible make a "netinstall" of debian if the system knows my ethcards, but there is no other computer which has got the netconnection, so i mean, i want to connect to the internet with the machine i' d like to install the new system. |
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| 21:58.41 | ohgoodgreif | got cable ? |
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| 21:59.16 | RichiH | csaba198: depends on your connection, i guess |
| 21:59.33 | ohgoodgreif | 56k would <kinda> suck for that |
| 21:59.41 | Maveric | thank you |
| 21:59.49 | csaba198 | RichiH: I have adsl- connection, but where and how can i set the parameters of it, and how to make it connect? |
| 22:00.09 | abrotman | ppoeconfig? |
| 22:00.12 | asg | ohgoodgreif: still faster than gentoo :p |
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| 22:00.38 | ohgoodgreif | asg, lmao 56k is ? |
| 22:00.42 | abrotman | comcast juts upped my connection at home ... i download from debian at like 400kBps |
| 22:00.48 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: apt-get install putty |
| 22:00.53 | abrotman | putty? |
| 22:00.59 | abrotman | i like xterm :) |
| 22:01.09 | abrotman | i know putty is in debian |
| 22:01.18 | csaba198 | abrotman: Does pppoeconfig need gcc? |
| 22:01.28 | csaba198 | (to compile it). |
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| 22:01.32 | asg | ohgoodgreif: download updated and required debian packages via 56k vs download and compile required gentoo packages |
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| 22:01.45 | DelEat | abrotman: try aterm ;-) |
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| 22:02.07 | ohgoodgreif | asg, oh man, you're seriouse : - 0 |
| 22:02.18 | somiaj | !tell lizard_ about root |
| 22:02.25 | asg | ohgoodgreif: no, the whole thing was a joke to begin with :) |
| 22:02.50 | abrotman | pppoeconfig is a package |
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| 22:03.20 | Gloo | msg apt find html.dtd |
| 22:03.24 | Gloo | ooopss |
| 22:03.29 | csaba198 | abrotman: ok, i' m going to try it, and hope there will be dpkg. |
| 22:03.31 | csaba198 | bye all. |
| 22:04.05 | MikeH | anyone use nvidia nforce chipset with 2.6 kernel? ive found patches for nvidia video, thats working fine, i just cant find anything for the nforce drivers |
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| 22:06.29 | HiRoMa | How do I get a list of What I've installed via apt-get? |
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| 22:06.43 | somiaj | HiRoMa: dpkg -l |
| 22:06.51 | caphuso | HiRoMa: you don't, 'cause it's not apt-get's job. use "dpkg -l" instead |
| 22:06.51 | HiRoMa | somiaj; Thank you |
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| 22:07.17 | HiRoMa | caphuso; ah; thank you |
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| 22:07.29 | sandman | So if I add testing AND unstable sources, I can PIN certain distros down for different things? |
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| 22:07.46 | sandman | So that, say, testing stuff is installed by default.. but if I _want_, I can install sid stuff. |
| 22:08.03 | sandman | I'm looking around @ apt_preferences, and it looks possible. |
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| 22:08.27 | RoNiS | hi, i have instaled GDM but the Session menu doesn't have a option for KDE, how i can add this? |
| 22:08.38 | ddg-mikeeusa | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.42 | ddg-mikeeusa | how do i fix that |
| 22:08.55 | ddg-mikeeusa | i terminated apt-get update before |
| 22:09.12 | Zeier | I want to copy a lot of files with "cp". But there's the ARG_MAX limitation. (argument list too long). How can I do this? (google didn't return something useful) |
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| 22:09.26 | asg | Zeier: xargs |
| 22:09.42 | Zeier | xargs... |
| 22:09.44 | ddg-mikeeusa | can anyone help??? |
| 22:09.53 | Zeier | okay, I'll look how to use xargs |
| 22:09.57 | ddg-mikeeusa | please |
| 22:09.58 | ddg-mikeeusa | :( |
| 22:09.59 | Zeier | thanks so long |
| 22:10.00 | asg | Zeier: usually with 'find' (i.e. find <blah> | xargs <cmd) |
| 22:10.02 | ddg-mikeeusa | damn |
| 22:10.06 | ddg-mikeeusa | damn damn dam |
| 22:10.08 | ddg-mikeeusa | fuck |
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| 22:10.12 | sussudio | idiot |
| 22:10.13 | ddg-mikeeusa | i broke it i guess |
| 22:10.22 | Gloo | bye all |
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| 22:10.29 | ddg-mikeeusa | sussudio can it be fixed? |
| 22:10.34 | skroob | anyone seen this error... "AC'97 0:0 does not respond" in dmesg, kernel 2.6.0 debian unstable |
| 22:10.35 | ddg-mikeeusa | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.47 | sussudio | ddg-mikeeusa: yes, putting you on my ignore list will fix this. |
| 22:10.47 | skroob | it is causing my sblive to not work |
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| 22:10.57 | ddg-mikeeusa | sussudio fuck you prick |
| 22:11.06 | asg | skroob: have you checked the bts? |
| 22:11.08 | dvj | i have a computer that won't boot on CD, but has CDrom, is there a way to install debian without using 5 floppy disks? (I was hoping for more like 2) |
| 22:11.26 | skroob | asg: google is drawing a blank |
| 22:11.31 | peterS | dvj: you should be able to get away with just the 2, yeah |
| 22:11.33 | skroob | asg: which package? |
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| 22:11.36 | dondelelcaro | Zeier: info coreutils, and read about find and xargs. [or man xargs] |
| 22:11.37 | Zeier | ahh, I understand... this way I'll copy file after file |
| 22:11.48 | Zeier | right? |
| 22:11.51 | asg | skroob: then check the bts and file bugs (kernel-image-2.6.0-1-i386 |
| 22:11.56 | asg | skroob: or i686, etc |
| 22:12.03 | somiaj | dvj: just boot off the two floppies and it will detect the cd and install the rest off of that. |
| 22:12.03 | peterS | dvj: rescue.bin and root.bin from the cdrom drive, debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/bf2.4/ |
| 22:12.07 | asg | Zeier: right |
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| 22:12.22 | skroob | asg: its self compiled from k.o |
| 22:12.31 | dondelelcaro | Zeier: sort of. It runs cp with as many files as can fit on the command line. |
| 22:12.33 | skroob | guess I could try the official pacakges |
| 22:12.37 | asg | skroob: or ask #kernelnewbies on oftc.org |
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| 22:12.44 | ddg-mikeeusa | now i cant apt get or anything |
| 22:12.45 | skroob | k thanks |
| 22:12.53 | ddg-mikeeusa | why wont anyone help!? |
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| 22:13.00 | caphuso | ddg-mikeeusa: because you're annoying |
| 22:13.06 | dvj | peterS: thanks ;) |
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| 22:13.40 | dvj | and somiaj |
| 22:13.43 | Zeier | okay, what would my command look like? find <blah> | ??? |
| 22:13.47 | Zeier | okay, what would my command look like? find <blah> | xargs ??? |
| 22:13.52 | dondelelcaro | !ep |
| 22:13.52 | dpkg | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:13.54 | ddg-mikeeusa | holyshit youre assholes |
| 22:13.57 | caphuso | ddg-mikeeusa: using "???", hitting enter after only two or three words, whining like a little kid, refusing to tell what you did before the error came up, ... |
| 22:14.09 | ddg-mikeeusa | i said what happened |
| 22:14.12 | dondelelcaro | Zeier: find ...|xargs cp |
| 22:14.14 | asg | Zeier: find . <opts> | xargs cp -a $1 /dest (or some derivative) |
| 22:14.20 | ddg-mikeeusa | i control c'd apt-get update |
| 22:14.24 | caphuso | asg: no |
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| 22:14.27 | ddg-mikeeusa | because it hung for about 3 min |
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| 22:14.37 | LankyAss | So, anyone know how to compile LAB? |
| 22:14.37 | ddg-mikeeusa | then i did it again |
| 22:14.42 | Zeier | thanks a lot! |
| 22:14.44 | caphuso | ddg-mikeeusa: that won't kill your status file. ever |
| 22:14.44 | asg | caphuso: thought xargs could take an arg? |
| 22:14.49 | ddg-mikeeusa | and now its broken like the windows registry |
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| 22:14.54 | asg | Zeier: hang about, caphuso has more info |
| 22:15.06 | dondelelcaro | s/mub/mumb/ |
| 22:15.06 | TimFreeman | ddg-mikeeusa: The error happened on the second run of apt-get update? |
| 22:15.11 | ddg-mikeeusa | yes |
| 22:15.18 | ddg-mikeeusa | after i killed the first |
| 22:15.18 | rhardy | Anyone know where to get old source packages for Debian? I need spcifically apache2-2.0.48-2. |
| 22:15.30 | dondelelcaro | !sdo |
| 22:15.30 | dondelelcaro | !sdn |
| 22:15.30 | dpkg | sdn is probably go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages |
| 22:15.32 | dondelelcaro | rhardy: ^^^^^ |
| 22:15.40 | rhardy | thx. will try that. |
| 22:15.40 | caphuso | asg: who or what is setting the $1? it's definitely neither find nor xargs, because it's a special variable to the shell |
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| 22:15.50 | elephantman | Hi all |
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| 22:15.52 | PlayaX | is there a script in debian that will autoprobe my serial ports |
| 22:16.14 | elephantman | When i try to generate a certificate using './mkcert.sh' in mod_ssl |
| 22:16.16 | dondelelcaro | asg: you're thinking of |xargs -i cp \{\} /dst |
| 22:16.31 | Zeier | ?? |
| 22:16.31 | bucky | rhardy, prolly |
| 22:16.32 | asg | caphuso: sorry, syntax error on my part. Thanks for the clarification. |
| 22:16.35 | asg | dondelelcaro: you too :) |
| 22:16.40 | bucky | rhardy, ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian-archive/dists/ |
| 22:16.40 | asg | Zeier: ^^ |
| 22:16.44 | elephantman | It says it cant find 'gendsa' or 'genrsa' => How can i install those ? Why arent they already installed ? |
| 22:16.46 | TimFreeman | ddg-mikeeusa: Do you have a file /var/lib/dpkg/status? How about /var/lib/dpkg/status-old? |
| 22:17.01 | Zeier | why do I need {}? |
| 22:17.18 | dondelelcaro | Zeier: that's the magic of xargs. {} gets replaced with the list of files. |
| 22:17.28 | Zeier | ahhhh! got it. |
| 22:17.49 | dondelelcaro | Zeier: see info coreutils, and/or man xargs. |
| 22:17.49 | TimFreeman | ddg-mikeeusa: And what are their sizes? If /var/lib/dpkg/status-old is good, mv it to /var/lib/dpkg/status, and it might fix the problem. |
| 22:17.52 | Zeier | I think I'll write a script for that... |
| 22:17.59 | ddg-mikeeusa | yes |
| 22:18.01 | ddg-mikeeusa | both\ |
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| 22:18.39 | TimFreeman | ddg-mikeeusa: I'm guessing you also killed an apt-get install or dpkg -i lately. |
| 22:18.54 | abrotman | TimFreeman: you say that like its a bad thing :) |
| 22:19.01 | ddg-mikeeusa | TimFreeman: i dont remember doing so, possibly |
| 22:19.11 | ddg-mikeeusa | TimFreeman: cp the old one to status ? |
| 22:19.17 | TimFreeman | abrotman: Have any other likely cause of a bad status file? |
| 22:19.21 | qtio | ddg-mikeeusa didnt you just say you hit control c in an spt-get upgrade? |
| 22:19.34 | TimFreeman | ddg-mikeeusa: What are the sizes of the files? The -old one might be bad too. |
| 22:19.34 | ddg-mikeeusa | qtio: yes |
| 22:19.53 | ddg-mikeeusa | the old one is smaller |
| 22:20.17 | Hal9002 | hello... to kill a process should i issue "kill PID", right? |
| 22:20.19 | TimFreeman | ddg-mikeeusa: Save the new one before copying the old one, copy the old one onto the new one, and see if things get better. Mine are 1.7 MB. Are yours remarkably smaller? |
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| 22:20.22 | caphuso | Hal9002: yes |
| 22:20.24 | Hal9002 | it doesnt work anymore, i don't know why |
| 22:20.25 | dondelelcaro | too bad there's not a showsh command, or a function to chsh to print the current user's shell... |
| 22:20.29 | Hal9002 | it doesnt kill the process... |
| 22:20.38 | Hal9002 | nothing happens |
| 22:20.48 | caphuso | Hal9002: then something's wrong with your process. is it a zombie or in D state? |
| 22:20.56 | TimFreeman | Hal9002: Sometimes there's a kernel bug, sometimes the process doesn't want to be killed, sometimes you're the wrong user. Try kill -9, perhaps? |
| 22:20.59 | abrotman | TimFreeman: bad fs .. but well .. one day i rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg or soemthign like that .. dont ever ever ever do that |
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| 22:21.09 | abrotman | and i mean EVER :) |
| 22:21.16 | ddg-mikeeusa | TimFreeman copy it over? |
| 22:21.20 | abrotman | but i did rescue the box |
| 22:21.26 | Hal9002 | ok |
| 22:21.26 | TimFreeman | abrotman: Could be. I also had a bad memory simm once, and I suppose that could explain just about anything. |
| 22:21.49 | Zeier | find $1 | xargs -i cp \{\} $2 |
| 22:21.54 | abrotman | i have a bad memory .. |
| 22:21.55 | Zeier | argument list too long |
| 22:21.59 | TimFreeman | ddg-mikeeusa: cp /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status-safe; cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 22:21.59 | Hal9002 | -9 worked, thanks |
| 22:22.01 | Zeier | I think I didn't get it... |
| 22:22.07 | dondelelcaro | Zeier: uh, how long is $2? |
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| 22:22.24 | TimFreeman | abrotman: I have trouble remembering faces, but that's not a problem with my simm's. :-). |
| 22:22.30 | Zeier | I thought $2 was destination? /home/webcam/archiv/temp |
| 22:22.32 | ddg-mikeeusa | FUCK |
| 22:22.44 | TimFreeman | ddg-mikeeusa: Can you be more specific? :-). |
| 22:22.46 | abrotman | ~fuck |
| 22:22.48 | | it has been said that fuck is a wonderful, versitile word, that you should use as often as you can. http://www.fartfarm.com/FWORD32_.wav |
| 22:22.48 | ddg-mikeeusa | TimFreeman i got the error again |
| 22:22.50 | ddg-mikeeusa | didnt work |
| 22:23.08 | baz | are all apt's obscene messages really necessary? |
| 22:23.14 | ddg-mikeeusa | update still cant open it |
| 22:23.18 | ddg-mikeeusa | o |
| 22:23.18 | abrotman | oh i remember that conversation |
| 22:23.24 | ddg-mikeeusa | there are other errors |
| 22:23.33 | ddg-mikeeusa | Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 22:23.35 | abrotman | well what are they |
| 22:23.39 | Zeier | $1 are 18000 files |
| 22:23.40 | modconf | ...but 1 is already something else... |
| 22:23.48 | TimFreeman | ddg-mikeeusa: Oh. I know how to fix that. One moment. |
| 22:23.51 | sussudio | baz: are you afraid all the naughty words will hurt your fragile little soul? |
| 22:23.58 | asg | ddg-mikeeusa: /msg dpkg mmap |
| 22:24.01 | dondelelcaro | Zeier: yeah, that should be ok... you may need to set --maxchars appropriately for xargs... could be too big. |
| 22:24.03 | ddg-mikeeusa | Problem with merge list |
| 22:24.13 | dondelelcaro | Zeier: rrr... --max-chars |
| 22:24.31 | baz | sussudio: no, just wondering whether they belong here. would you put them on the front page of debian.org? |
| 22:24.39 | asg | dondelelcaro: isn't using tar | tar more efficient for large file copies? |
| 22:24.46 | TimFreeman | ddg-mikeeusa: I agree with asg. |
| 22:24.46 | Zeier | what does maxchars do? |
| 22:24.55 | dondelelcaro | asg: could be... depends what you're doing... |
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| 22:25.02 | sussudio | baz: branden did it on his people.debian page. |
| 22:25.07 | qtio | is freeswan good for a win-->debian VPN? |
| 22:25.10 | abrotman | i love brandens page |
| 22:25.14 | caphuso | Zeier: does "find $1 | xargs cp --target-directory=$2" work? |
| 22:25.24 | ddg-mikeeusa | TimFreeman i cant do it |
| 22:25.24 | dondelelcaro | Zeier: that tells xargs how many arguments it can use... |
| 22:25.25 | abrotman | at least the pic at the top |
| 22:25.30 | TimFreeman | Frankly, I prefer ddg-mikeeusa's obscenity to the vicious sarcasm I often find here. |
| 22:25.36 | baz | sussudio: branden's a dick, have you read any of his mailing list submissions? |
| 22:25.36 | TimFreeman | ddg-mikeeusa: What stops you? |
| 22:26.19 | ddg-mikeeusa | TimFreeman: add it, or put it in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ |
| 22:26.19 | sussudio | i don't read mailing lists. |
| 22:26.19 | ddg-mikeeusa | vaugeness |
| 22:26.19 | ddg-mikeeusa | any file :P |
| 22:26.19 | Capkirk | can anyone here recommend a build system to keep track on diffrent configs and build and maybe distirbute debian kernels to a +25 boxes |
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| 22:26.20 | sussudio | baz: feel free to take his job if you feel qualified. |
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| 22:26.22 | baz | sussudio: he and rms were bickering like children recently |
| 22:26.30 | dondelelcaro | baz: Uh, that factoid doesn't have any obsenities in it at all. |
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| 22:26.41 | baz | sussudio: I certainly have the people skills. shame debian doesn't value these ;) |
| 22:26.42 | asg | Capkirk: ant + cvs (or make + cvs) |
| 22:26.45 | baz | dondelelcaro: precedent |
| 22:26.57 | TimFreeman | ddg-mikeeusa: My /etc/apt/apt.conf has one line "APT::Cache-Limit 20000000;". Make yours like that. |
| 22:26.59 | Capkirk | or should one build something from scatch? |
| 22:27.05 | sussudio | baz: people skills people schmills. |
| 22:27.18 | Zeier | is xargs -i = --interactive ? |
| 22:27.21 | baz | sussudio: and the number of users in #debian goes forever downwards :) |
| 22:27.24 | Capkirk | asg: do you have knowledge on any projects that has done some of the work allready? |
| 22:27.26 | louissypher | can anyone speak about back-sql and ldap? I've got some questions and no one seems to be responding in #openldap. |
| 22:27.29 | dondelelcaro | baz: people skills like calling people you've never met dicks? *shrug* |
| 22:27.32 | sussudio | baz: it goes up, actually. |
| 22:27.38 | argonel | damn is it cold! |
| 22:27.40 | TimFreeman | ddg-mikeeusa: If you're an emacs user, make sure the last character is a newline, for good luck. Parsers sometimes have bugs that way. |
| 22:27.41 | asg | Capkirk: ant and make are build tools (cvs is used for revision control) |
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| 22:27.54 | csaba198 | hi! Does anybody know the new debian-installer? How can i there install a deb package in the shell? |
| 22:27.59 | caphuso | TimFreeman: emacs? new line? |
| 22:28.01 | baz | dondelelcaro: I've read enough of his childish prose ;) |
| 22:28.22 | ddg-mikeeusa | ah ok |
| 22:28.26 | abrotman | screw that .. people use four letter words .. get over it |
| 22:28.29 | dondelelcaro | baz: he's toned down slightly, and generally isn't that bad. Regardless, you can always ignore him. |
| 22:28.32 | TimFreeman | caphuso: It's easy for newbie emacs users to create files without a trailing newline. tcsh has parser bugs there, I think; I dunno about apt. |
| 22:28.33 | ddg-mikeeusa | TimFreeman: seems to work now :) |
| 22:28.37 | baz | sussudio: I seem to remember it being higher when I first started coming here, not long before woody was released |
| 22:28.59 | sussudio | baz: there's about 150 more since woody was released. |
| 22:28.59 | csaba198 | i mean by installing a new system. |
| 22:29.01 | dondelelcaro | baz: before woody was released, we were at about 500 users. |
| 22:29.02 | ddg-mikeeusa | TimFreeman: thank you :D |
| 22:29.09 | caphuso | TimFreeman: it's easy? hell, i'm using emacs for several years now and i would have to look up how to get it to not add a newline |
| 22:29.22 | baz | dondelelcaro: granted, and I didn't even bring him up :) but to use his judgement to justify swearing like troopers in #debian is a little um.. misguided |
| 22:29.28 | dondelelcaro | caphuso: you just delete the last newline... |
| 22:29.29 | baz | dondelelcaro: then I mis-remembered. apologies |
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| 22:29.34 | TimFreeman | ddg-mikeeusa: Welcome. asg is the one who found the solution, BTW. |
| 22:29.38 | ddg-mikeeusa | oo |
| 22:29.43 | ddg-mikeeusa | thanks asg |
| 22:29.48 | asg | ddg-mikeeusa: you're welcome |
| 22:29.50 | TimFreeman | caphuso: Oh. So you turned on require-final-newline. I don't think it's on by default, though. |
| 22:29.54 | Zeier | find $1 | xargs --max-chars -i cp \{\} $2 |
| 22:30.12 | megatux | Has anyone else had trouble with xlock / kdesktop_lock / etc. recently with unstable? Screen locks but fails to authenticate again and I have to kill the process manually. Maybe PAM related but I can't find it. |
| 22:30.15 | TimFreeman | caphuso: I have it turned on too. |
| 22:30.15 | XpTerminator | bye |
| 22:30.18 | dondelelcaro | Zeier: you have to specify an argument to max-chars |
| 22:30.19 | Zeier | have I set max-chars to a value? |
| 22:30.32 | Zeier | what would you propose? |
| 22:30.36 | baz | I was under the impression debian were still concerned about losing users to gentoo etc, I remember that thread from way back. |
| 22:30.39 | seberino_ | NIS mystery... I changed a file and removed it from NIS database but NIS clients can still see OLD version with ypcat!?!? |
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| 22:30.50 | baz | just thought having apt chatter about the virtues of 'fuck' might be putting more people off :) |
| 22:30.52 | dondelelcaro | Zeier: depends on how big ARG_MAX is... probably 100 less than it or so |
| 22:30.53 | baz | don't mind it myself |
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| 22:31.24 | Zeier | ARG_MAX is 131072 |
| 22:31.27 | dondelelcaro | baz: it's just a word that is used commonly... people who can't handle it probably can't handle fsck either... |
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| 22:31.29 | asg | baz: the beauty of freedom is that you end up with all sorts of colorful characters |
| 22:31.30 | ddg-mikeeusa | hmm |
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| 22:31.39 | dondelelcaro | Zeier: yeah, so set max-chars to something like 120000 |
| 22:31.44 | Zeier | okay |
| 22:31.47 | ddg-mikeeusa | ok none of those bots anwser |
| 22:31.48 | ddg-mikeeusa | so chan |
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| 22:31.54 | ddg-mikeeusa | !info xserver-xfree86 experimental |
| 22:31.55 | abrotman | baz used a dirty word :) |
| 22:31.58 | dpkg | xserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.3.0-0pre1v5 (experimental), Packaged size: 5322 kB, Installed size: 14780 kB |
| 22:31.59 | baz | asg: granted. but I don't think brandon whould be elected president of deciding appropriate language |
| 22:32.03 | asg | baz: a sense of humor and thick skin are also required (for both Debian and freedom) |
| 22:32.04 | caphuso | hmmm, indeed |
| 22:32.06 | Zeier | argument list still too long |
| 22:32.14 | baz | dondelelcaro: heh, fsck is something else |
| 22:32.18 | ddg-mikeeusa | dpkg didnt respond to /msging |
| 22:32.19 | dpkg | ddg-mikeeusa: wish i knew |
| 22:32.20 | Zeier | find $1 | xargs --max-chars 120000 -i cp \{\} $2 |
| 22:32.27 | LoRez | ddg-mikeeusa: then you did it wrong |
| 22:32.35 | baz | asg: this is true |
| 22:32.37 | caphuso | Zeier: what's the command you use to run that script? |
| 22:32.50 | Zeier | xcp (like xcopy in windows ;) |
| 22:32.54 | Scognito | someone has a cmi8738 card? i cannot enable joystick |
| 22:32.58 | caphuso | Zeier: the complete command line |
| 22:33.05 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: it's /msg dpkg info xserver-xfree86 experimental, not /msg dpkg !info xserver-xfree86 experimental |
| 22:33.06 | dpkg | You are moron #2, dondelelcaro |
| 22:33.10 | tizz | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.13 | Zeier | xcp *.jpg /home/webcam/upload/archiv/temp |
| 22:33.15 | dondelelcaro | ddg-mikeeusa: it's /msg dpkg info xserver-xfree86 experimental, not /msg dpkg !info xserver-xfree86 experimental |
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| 22:33.45 | caphuso | Zeier: that's just like running "cp *.jpg /home/webcam/upload/archiv/temp" |
| 22:34.01 | caphuso | Zeier: why are you not doing that, again? |
| 22:34.01 | ddg-mikeeusa | how do i get info on a dist? |
| 22:34.08 | Scognito | who can help me to make the joypad working with linux? |
| 22:34.16 | qtio | If i try to apt-get install freeswan and it doenst install saying it depends on libgmp3, does that mean installing libgmp3 might break other things? |
| 22:34.42 | Zeier | I just wanted to write a script which can copy a huge amount of files, using cp and xargs |
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| 22:34.48 | Zeier | isn't this possible? |
| 22:34.52 | caphuso | Zeier: it is |
| 22:34.59 | Zeier | hmm... |
| 22:35.06 | hacim | anyone know a good way to chroot ssh? Or to keep someone locked into a specific directory? |
| 22:35.06 | caphuso | Zeier: you're just doing it completely wrong |
| 22:35.11 | baz | heh |
| 22:35.30 | dondelelcaro | hacim: you'll have to chroot all of your users somewhere with whatever they need. |
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| 22:35.39 | peterS | hacim: that's what restricted shells are for - 'man rbash' for example |
| 22:35.40 | Zeier | sorry for this. What am I doing wrong? |
| 22:36.02 | peterS | hacim: they don't chroot, but a properly set up rbash environment is reasonably hard to circumvent |
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| 22:36.10 | Zeier | ahhh, now its xcp which has too many args? |
| 22:36.28 | toni | hello everybody, is there someone who knows what i have to change in the exim.conf to relay a message from internet to a local user? thanks a lot! |
| 22:36.32 | hacim | peterS: yeah, I use rbash, I just am looking for the best way to limit users... I used grsecurity, so they can't see any processes beyond their own, but would like to keep them locked into one directory |
| 22:36.43 | caphuso | Zeier: first of all, you don't really want a script, secondly, you want something like find . maxdepth 1 -iname '*.jpg' -print0 | xargs -i cp \{\} /somewhere |
| 22:36.54 | caphuso | Zeier: hey, you figured it out :) |
| 22:37.02 | baz | zeier: something like "for f in *.jpg do; cp $f /some/dir/thing/; done" |
| 22:37.07 | baz | oh, caphuso beat me :) |
| 22:37.11 | caphuso | Zeier: sorry, that should be | xargs -0 -i cp \{\} /somewhere |
| 22:37.45 | Zeier | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:37.59 | caphuso | using a script for that is wasted, you can't get it generic enough easily |
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| 22:38.58 | shwag_ | how would I go about getting a CMD Technology Inc PCI0647 video out board working ? |
| 22:39.07 | _diego_ | hacim: if you don't want to use chroot (a lot of good reason), reset permission outside the directory |
| 22:39.22 | asg | toni: set 'local_domains' to 'localhost:<your machine name' and have it listen on port 25 (which it should do automatically) (or fool around with options (1) or (2) in 'eximconfig') |
| 22:39.37 | asg | s/name/name>/ |
| 22:39.44 | _diego_ | hacim: something like chmod o-rw |
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| 22:39.52 | eeyore- | howdy |
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| 22:39.58 | asg | eeyore-: evening |
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| 22:40.21 | peterS | somiaj: so you don't just want the X server, like most people who think they need 4.3.0? |
| 22:40.40 | yaboo | hey all stupid question if I mirror debian testing, will my mirror remove files as the site I mirror? |
| 22:40.40 | qtio | whats does apt-get install --dry-run do theres nothing in the man page about it |
| 22:40.46 | matt__ | same as --simulate |
| 22:40.50 | peterS | somiaj: because if all you're after is that precious nvidia geforce 4 driver, I believe you don't need to fetch anything other than xserver-xfree86 |
| 22:40.59 | Zeier | problem is, as far as i got it, that writing a script implies that there are now restrictions to the script instead of restriction to the command |
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| 22:41.01 | matt__ | or --just-print |
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| 22:41.30 | qtio | matt__ ahh thanks |
| 22:41.40 | Bangz-work | splashimage=(nd)/grub/dunes.xpm.gz |
| 22:41.44 | Bangz-work | whats wrong with that line? |
| 22:41.52 | Bangz-work | I have that in my menu.lst in pxegrub, and it doesnt load the splash |
| 22:41.57 | Ro0tSiEgE_ | Bangz-work: what's nd? |
| 22:42.04 | Bangz-work | network device. pxegrub |
| 22:42.05 | somiaj | peterS: your probably right, though I like playing around with new things, tis a bad habbit of mine...(: |
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| 22:43.29 | toni | <asg> thanks a lot for exim help! there was an error in my local_domains configuration (localhost:servername). thank you |
| 22:43.36 | asg | toni: you're welcome |
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| 22:44.14 | nk_root66 | hm... is it possible to change the system, that normal users only can use their homedir when they login with ssh and only root can checkup the whole fs? |
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| 22:44.32 | caphuso | nk_root66: it's not easy and useless anyways, so why bother? |
| 22:44.35 | nk_root66 | so like setting /home/username as root for |
| 22:44.38 | somiaj | peterS: I had the server and libs from pre1v4 all set up and working nicely, just was getting around to upgrading to pre1v5 and was surprised at how many new libs there are in that compared to pre1v4. |
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| 22:44.42 | sandman | Should my mailname be something like "mail.my.domain.net"? |
| 22:44.48 | sandman | My "mail name" |
| 22:44.48 | nk_root66 | caphuso: depends on the case if it's useless or not |
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| 22:44.57 | caphuso | nk_root66: no, it doesn't |
| 22:45.02 | nk_root66 | caphuso: sure it does |
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| 22:45.17 | nk_root66 | caphuso: if I don't want them so see anything in /etc it's useful... |
| 22:45.18 | caphuso | nk_root66: show me one example where that would actually be useful |
| 22:45.18 | Knight_Lord | How do i install Unreal 2003 in debian? |
| 22:45.33 | nk_root66 | caphuso: enough? or another one? |
| 22:45.37 | Zeier | found a newbie solution for my problem: Midnight Commander ;) |
| 22:45.50 | caphuso | nk_root66: that's not a reason, because it doesn't matter |
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| 22:45.59 | nk_root66 | caphuso: maybe for me it matters... |
| 22:46.01 | yaboo | Knight_Lord, use cd3 |
| 22:46.01 | caphuso | what do you gain by not letting your users read /etc/profile? |
| 22:46.03 | asg | sandman: in what context? |
| 22:46.13 | nk_root66 | mh... |
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| 22:46.26 | sandman | asg: exim4-config |
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| 22:47.03 | Knight_Lord | yaboo Verifying archive integrity...Error in checksums: 3967319203 is different from 3043856338 this is what i get |
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| 22:47.13 | asg | sandman: I haven't delved into 4 yet but the spec in /usr/share/doc/exim/spec.txt.gz should help |
| 22:47.21 | nk_root66 | caphuso: but though no matter to be so aggressive... |
| 22:47.34 | yaboo | Knight_Lord, then your cd is corrupt |
| 22:47.36 | caphuso | nk_root66: i'm not aggressive |
| 22:47.54 | dodo | Where fusion mpt device modules download ? |
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| 22:48.00 | dodo | Help me.. |
| 22:48.05 | nk_root66 | caphuso: but though not kind |
| 22:48.13 | Knight_Lord | yaboo i don't even have the cd mounted |
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| 22:48.25 | Knight_Lord | yaboo i just copied the installer |
| 22:48.40 | caphuso | nk_root66: oh, sorry. have a cookie and a glass of milk. it's on me |
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| 22:48.51 | yaboo | Knight_Lord, you need the cd mounted and the installer script run from the cd |
| 22:49.08 | bino | can anyone help me get my soundcard setup? |
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| 22:49.25 | yaboo | remember not to be in the cd dir when you run the installer script since you will need to unmount the cd's to mount the other cd's |
| 22:49.40 | nk_root66 | caphuso: np |
| 22:49.56 | Cy6erBr4in | bino, what soundcard you have? |
| 22:49.59 | Knight_Lord | yaboo bash: /cdrom/linux_installer.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied |
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| 22:50.23 | caphuso | Knight_Lord: did you mount your cdrom with "noexec"? |
| 22:50.25 | yaboo | Knight_Lord, do a sh -x on the installer script |
| 22:50.35 | bino | Cy6erBr4in: : C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 |
| 22:50.39 | cafuego | yaboo: on a cdrom, sure |
| 22:50.48 | CrayT3E | is there a package for php4 support in apache2? |
| 22:51.00 | yaboo | cafuego worked for me before |
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| 22:51.05 | cafuego | CrayT3E: No. use the php4-cgi if you really need apache2. |
| 22:51.06 | caphuso | CrayT3E: there's no really working php4 support on apache, so what do you need a package for? |
| 22:51.13 | Cy6erBr4in | bino: I can not have you =( |
| 22:51.15 | bino | Cy6erBr4in: i have done modconf and then adduser but it still wont work |
| 22:51.15 | cafuego | yaboo: You can't chmod a file on a cd. |
| 22:51.19 | Knight_Lord | yaboo thanks |
| 22:51.40 | Mag007 | how do you report crazy moderator? |
| 22:51.55 | Cy6erBr4in | bino: you launch soundconf? |
| 22:52.03 | bino | ?? |
| 22:52.24 | bino | Cy6erBr4in: whats that? |
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| 22:52.31 | yaboo | cafuego I do a sh -x /cdrom/installer script |
| 22:52.36 | Cy6erBr4in | I am sury =) |
| 22:52.42 | cafuego | yaboo: That' |
| 22:52.52 | cafuego | s is irrelevant on read-only media |
| 22:52.53 | Cy6erBr4in | I am sory =) |
| 22:52.58 | yaboo | cafuego worked for me before |
| 22:52.58 | Cy6erBr4in | please wait... |
| 22:53.17 | cafuego | yaboo: Go and try it, yopu'll see the file modes don't actually change. |
| 22:53.38 | Cy6erBr4in | bino: sndconfig |
| 22:53.55 | yaboo | cafuego the file modes won't why |
| 22:53.55 | Cy6erBr4in | this program for configure sound card |
| 22:53.56 | bino | Cy6erBr4in: command not found :( |
| 22:54.23 | bino | i'll apt-get it |
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| 22:55.40 | cafuego | yaboo: If it doesn't work at first, you make *no* change and then it does work, it doesn't suddenly work co you didn't make a change, right? :-) |
| 22:55.41 | yaboo | cafuego what? |
| 22:55.45 | Cy6erBr4in | bino: it is standart program |
| 22:55.52 | cafuego | yaboo: Never mind, I'm a bloody retard. |
| 22:55.52 | nk_root66 | caphuso: 'see bash manpage for restricted shell' would have been the better and shorter answer... |
| 22:56.15 | bino | Cy6erBr4in: well i had to apt-get it! i'm running it now..... |
| 22:56.29 | cafuego | yaboo: I shall have more coffee before I attempt to help people. Thought you typed 'chmod -x' rather then 'sh -x' |
| 22:56.36 | HiRoMa | I need a huge favor. I'm following a Mailserver Solution Howto involving Postfix+MySQL+Courier-IMAP+SASL+Amavis located at http://www.marlow.dk/tech/postfix.php. Everything is going fine. But the "SASL Library" section contains instructions to edit a file named "smtpd.conf" which I do not have. I jsut don't know what I'm missing and was wondering if someone clould take the time to look at the mentioned site, and help me figure out what I'm missing. |
| 22:56.36 | cafuego | !cricket cafuego |
| 22:56.42 | yaboo | cafuego nope |
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| 22:57.14 | cafuego | HiRoMa: /usr/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf |
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| 22:57.47 | cafuego | HiRoMa: or, if you use sasl1, /usr/lib/sasl/smtpd.conf |
| 22:58.23 | CueballUK | If I set a user and group on an apache VirtualHost shouldn't the files be accessed by that user? |
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| 22:58.37 | toni | sorry, what is the best pop3 daemon for debian?thanks |
| 22:58.45 | cafuego | toni: yes |
| 22:58.53 | asg | toni: courier-pop3 is likely to suit you well |
| 22:59.12 | mentor | ~best |
| 22:59.14 | | i heard best is probably raw, seething xlib, as some people don't want either fltk or gtk... |
| 22:59.20 | cafuego | asg: I find cyrus-pop3d much better myself |
| 22:59.22 | mentor | apt idiot |
| 22:59.24 | | somebody said idiot was you |
| 22:59.29 | mentor | !best |
| 22:59.30 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! |
| 22:59.33 | asg | cafuego: yeah, but the tools are ugly |
| 22:59.38 | mentor | !literal best |
| 22:59.38 | dpkg | best is <reply> best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! |
| 22:59.42 | HiRoMa | cafuego; my /usr/lib/ only has "sasl/", and that directory does not contain the smtp.conf file. |
| 22:59.46 | asg | cafuego: and he's probably not providing pop3 to millions |
| 22:59.46 | mentor | apt best is <reply> best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! |
| 22:59.48 | | ...but best is already something else... |
| 22:59.48 | cafuego | mentor: They are? Since when? |
| 22:59.52 | cafuego | HiRoMa: No, create it. |
| 22:59.53 | mentor | apt no best is <reply> best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! |
| 22:59.55 | | mentor: okay |
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| 23:00.25 | bino | Cy6erBr4in: seems to be something wrong with the soundcard, thanx for the help tho! |
| 23:00.32 | cafuego | HiRoMa: Mine contains: pwcheck_method: saslauthd \ mech_list: login |
| 23:00.39 | cafuego | witht eh \ being a new line |
| 23:00.47 | toni | <asg> thank you again |
| 23:00.51 | HiRoMa | cafuego; oHHH. mierda, I though it existed. |
| 23:01.06 | asg | toni: np, cafuego's suggestion is worth considering if you are shopping around |
| 23:01.19 | cafuego | asg: qpopper should do, then. |
| 23:01.30 | Cy6erBr4in | bino: what Debian you have? |
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| 23:01.40 | cafuego | asg: Actually, I was just frivolously sugegsting it due to silly question. |
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| 23:01.53 | bino | Cy6erBr4in: not sure, think its woody, its a netinstall |
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| 23:02.26 | MichaelH | Hi! I have a problem with my notebook (Fujitsu Siemens Amilo M 7400 centrino) and the integrated Intel PRO/Wireless LAN card. To activate the card I have to push a launch button but this doesn't work. Does anybody know how to solve this problem or how to activate the card in another way? |
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| 23:02.38 | Cy6erBr4in | I want by Woody 3.0r2 |
| 23:02.45 | cafuego | MichaelH: Centrino wific ards aren't supported by Linux. |
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| 23:03.05 | asg | cafuego: :) still, the cyrus tools are ugly |
| 23:03.15 | Cy6erBr4in | bino:I want buy Woody 3.0r2 |
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| 23:03.21 | cafuego | asg: Howso? I *love* my website for admining it. |
| 23:03.23 | MichaelH | cafuago: driverloader from linuxant supports the card and also ndiswrapper |
| 23:03.24 | psycose | hi |
| 23:03.37 | cafuego | MichaelH: Sorry, but ndiswrapper is an evil piece of shit. |
| 23:03.44 | somiaj | Cy6erBr4in: check out debian.org it will tell you all you need to know about that. |
| 23:03.46 | asg | cafuego: I was referring to the commandline tools (tcl) or (perl that looks like tcl in 2.x) |
| 23:03.57 | mentor | MichaelH: I should ask the linnuant people. |
| 23:04.01 | mentor | erg. |
| 23:04.06 | mentor | linuxant |
| 23:04.09 | cafuego | asg: Why would you use those and not the nice ones? |
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| 23:04.41 | asg | cafuego: I don't use cyrus anymore :) |
| 23:04.44 | cafuego | asg: I have a website linked off the webmail server where clients can admin their own domains. Very nice. |
| 23:04.46 | Zeier | which command shwows me the number of files in a dir? |
| 23:04.55 | Zeier | s/shwows/shows |
| 23:04.56 | cafuego | Zeier: ls | wc -l |
| 23:04.57 | caphuso | Zeier: ls | wc -l |
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| 23:05.00 | MichaelH | mentor: i asked them and they said i should use the kernel 2.6 with acpi support. i compiled it, but the launch key still doesn't work |
| 23:05.04 | Zeier | thanks |
| 23:05.18 | mentor | MichaelH: Ask them again? |
| 23:05.20 | caphuso | dondelelcaro: your nick wouldn't have fit in |
| 23:05.27 | dondelelcaro | "Zeier: ls -a|wc -l" for reference... ;-) |
| 23:05.37 | dondelelcaro | caphuso: yeah, it would have been a bit long... |
| 23:05.39 | bluegate | hello lillte question. what means the 786 in make-kpkg --revision=786:kernel kernel_image? |
| 23:05.41 | caphuso | dondelelcaro: ls -A | wc -l |
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| 23:05.55 | TerryG | has anybody had any luck setting up a tosh laptop with a topic97 pcmcia controller? |
| 23:06.02 | mentor | bluegate: epoch |
| 23:06.11 | bluegate | mentor: epoch ? |
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| 23:06.15 | asg | mentor: a bad film btw |
| 23:06.17 | sussudio | ~tell TerryG about polls |
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| 23:06.32 | nvz | TerryG: I hear google collects alot of usage statistics |
| 23:06.53 | SuperPhly | anyone know how to address this problem: group 3125's inode bitmap at 102400000 conflicts with some other fs block |
| 23:06.57 | dondelelcaro | caphuso: yeah, a better idea... or find . |wc -l.. or echo *|wc -w [although kind of nasty if you have files with spaces...] |
| 23:06.59 | bluegate | mentor: do you have DRI support in you Kernel? |
| 23:07.08 | Cy6erBr4in | bino: how old are you& |
| 23:07.09 | Cy6erBr4in | bino: how old are you? |
| 23:07.14 | mentor | bluegate: er...yes. |
| 23:07.17 | mentor | hmm |
| 23:07.19 | mentor | ~epoch |
| 23:07.21 | | rumour has it, epoch is the end of an era. For example y2k was a 2 digit year epoch. The unix epoch on 32 bit hardware isn't until Jan 18 2038, by which time we will probably have all migrated to 64 bit architectures. It's also a very ugly concept used by the debian packaging software. For example: 2:0.0.0 is a higher version than 9.9.9 by itself. This can be really annoying if you've hand compiled a kernel, and it keeps getting overwritten |
| 23:07.21 | bino | 20.....why?! |
| 23:07.33 | somiaj | bluegate: the --revision is apended to the version number to put different compiles (with other configs) in other packages, example: kernel-image-2.6.0_custom1_i386.deb is made with --revision=custom1 |
| 23:07.36 | TerryG | nvz: they have to so they can send info to their advertisers |
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| 23:07.57 | bluegate | did you downloaded the dri modules from sf? |
| 23:07.59 | VChriZZnb | hi |
| 23:08.16 | bluegate | mentor: did you downloaded the dri modules from sourceforge? |
| 23:08.23 | dondelelcaro | too bad the last part of that factoid only happens if you've been a complete idiot... |
| 23:08.30 | mentor | ~tell bluegate about ask |
| 23:08.34 | nvz | TerryG: what we are saying is that its hard to tell if your issue is with a laptop or a pcmcia controller and once that is determined it still raises an E: out of data. |
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| 23:08.48 | mentor | Cy6erBr4in, bino: Let's keep it on topic... |
| 23:08.55 | bino | lol |
| 23:08.58 | mentor | Cy6erBr4in, bino: sndconfig is a RedHat tool anyway. |
| 23:09.05 | bino | ahh, cheers |
| 23:09.08 | nvz | TerryG: perhaps ask something like Is blah supported by linux, or simply google and come back when you understand a little better what your problem is |
| 23:09.08 | mentor | !tell bino about sound |
| 23:09.11 | bino | can you help me? |
| 23:09.12 | mentor | !tell Cy6erBr4in about sound |
| 23:09.13 | bluegate | what is the best way to install DRI for a radeon card in unstable? |
| 23:09.15 | dondelelcaro | apt =~ s/ This can be really annoying if you've hand compiled a kernel, and it keeps getting overwritten// |
| 23:09.17 | | dondelelcaro: You are moron #17 |
| 23:09.26 | bino | mentor: been there |
| 23:09.28 | bino | :( |
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| 23:09.41 | megatux | Has anyone else had trouble with xlock / kdesktop_lock / etc. recently with the unstable tree? Screen locks but fails to unlock again and I have to kill the process manually. Maybe PAM related but I can't find it. |
| 23:09.44 | SuperPhly | are there any LVM guru's out there? |
| 23:09.52 | qtio | can anyone point me towards some docs on recompiling the kernel with ipsec support? |
| 23:09.53 | asg | !tell SuperPhly about ask |
| 23:10.09 | SuperPhly | anyone know how to address this problem: group 3125's inode bitmap at 102400000 conflicts with some other fs block |
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| 23:10.21 | nvz | TerryG: you asked a question that any possible answer to it could not possibly help you in any way. |
| 23:10.25 | mentor | bino: What Linux version are you using? |
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| 23:10.28 | dondelelcaro | qtio: the kernel howto and the kernel-package documentation have information on adding patches to your kernel compilations. |
| 23:10.33 | bino | 2.2 |
| 23:10.37 | bino | :( |
| 23:10.42 | qtio | thanks dondelelcaro |
| 23:10.44 | mentor | ~tell bluegate about best |
| 23:10.49 | bino | should i go for 2.6 and try ALSA? |
| 23:10.51 | mentor | bino: What release did you install? |
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| 23:10.55 | bino | woody |
| 23:10.58 | bino | i think |
| 23:11.07 | bino | did the netinstall |
| 23:11.23 | TerryG | i have been trying google for 2 days now, the problem i have is this: I have a tosh libretto, it has a topic97 pcmcia controller that does not use an irq for communication. i can make linux detect cards on the pcmcia but not talk to them as they all apear on IRQ 0. What i would like to know is: is there any way to make the current stable or potato address the pcmcia controller by an IO address and not an irq? |
| 23:11.23 | mentor | bino: I should go ahead and install a 'real' Linux of hte 2.4 series. |
| 23:11.23 | mentor | !real kernel |
| 23:11.23 | dpkg | The Debian install kernels are meant for just that: installing. If you want things like wide module support and netfilter, install a proper kernel. 'apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-386' will see you through, if you have no idea. something you should compile yourself for maximum performance |
| 23:11.32 | mentor | .18 |
| 23:11.49 | bino | u think that'll fix it? |
| 23:11.57 | mentor | bino: Make sure you grab the security updates for those. |
| 23:12.06 | mentor | bino: No, but it'll be a start. |
| 23:12.21 | bino | thanx :) |
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| 23:12.40 | bluegate | how can I install DRI for a radeon card in unstable? i tried with the dri modules from sourceforge did. untar the file in user src and did make-kpkg modules_image but i get always an error. Did someone installit the same way and it worked? |
| 23:13.15 | mentor | bluegate: What version of XF86 are they for? |
| 23:13.18 | zhengyi | TerryG: have you seen/been to http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/apple.html? Lots of info there; maybe something useful? |
| 23:13.33 | bluegate | mentor: xfree4.2.1 |
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| 23:13.49 | TerryG | their info on librettos only covers redhat, they have binary drivers for it but they are not compatable |
| 23:13.53 | mentor | bluegate: What error are you getting? |
| 23:14.05 | nvz | TerryG: for one thing hardware is addressed by the kernel not the software distribution |
| 23:14.09 | dondelelcaro | !info kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386 stable |
| 23:14.29 | nvz | TerryG: redhat secretly runs on linux just like Debian |
| 23:14.48 | TerryG | i know but it keeps files in different places and costs money |
| 23:14.51 | trovador | are there any statistics on debian packages? which one's are downloaded most/least... how often they're updated..etc.? |
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| 23:15.10 | mentor | nvz, TerryG: They'll be compiled for the Red Hat Linux (headers).... |
| 23:15.12 | bluegate | mentor: i post it in #flood |
| 23:15.43 | mentor | someone knows the guidelines... |
| 23:15.57 | danac | i'm using alsa with an audigy and no sound is coming out, but it worked just yesterday, in alsamixergui i can't mute or unmute the master or pcm, both are stuck on, in xmms it looks like it's playing but i still get nothing, anyone have an idea? |
| 23:16.07 | bluegate | mentor: posted ;-) |
| 23:16.11 | dondelelcaro | hrm. doesn't have a security line... |
| 23:16.34 | mentor | bluegate: '2003.05.04-1+786' isn't a number. |
| 23:16.40 | nvz | TerryG: can you show the ONE LINE from lspci indicating the detection of this device and your kernel version? |
| 23:16.45 | dondelelcaro | !real kernel =~ s/kernel-image-2.4.18-386/kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386/ |
| 23:16.46 | dpkg | OK, dondelelcaro |
| 23:17.15 | mentor | bluegate: This looks like the epoch in your kernel is clashing with the modules package version numbering. |
| 23:17.16 | TerryG | at the mo it has potato2 on it, it has installed 8319too but it wont start it |
| 23:17.20 | Hal9002 | i know packages.do is down. but is there a way to see what versions the various woody packages are? for example i would like to know what version eggdrop is... |
| 23:17.29 | dondelelcaro | !info eggdrop stable |
| 23:17.33 | dpkg | eggdrop: (Advanced IRC Robot), section net, is extra. Version: 1.6.8-2 (woody), Packaged size: 653 kB, Installed size: 2124 kB |
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| 23:17.44 | mentor | bino: make sure you get the -1 version. |
| 23:17.46 | dondelelcaro | Hal9002: you can /msg dpkg info <packagename> stable |
| 23:17.54 | bino | :| |
| 23:17.59 | bluegate | mentor: i dont understand is that possible because i did make-kpkg --revision=786:Kernel2.4.23 kernel_image. I think its because of the 786 right? |
| 23:18.01 | bino | the who what when where? |
| 23:18.02 | nvz | TerryG: potato is a collection of software packages, has absolutly nothing what so ever to do with the linux kernel |
| 23:18.10 | TerryG | I was getting an error in the latest stable saying that both the 8139 and the 3com wireless thing i am trying are on IRQ 0 |
| 23:18.16 | TerryG | 2.2.19 |
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| 23:18.25 | mentor | bluegate: Buggy make-kpkg :) |
| 23:18.31 | nvz | TerryG: and the information from lspci? |
| 23:18.33 | dondelelcaro | bluegate: bleh. that's disgusting. choose a sane revision without an epoch. |
| 23:18.58 | dondelelcaro | bluegate: and if you really want it to be un-overwriteable, use a --append-to-version |
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| 23:19.50 | TerryG | 14:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semicondictor Co., Ltd. RT8139 (REV 10) |
| 23:20.15 | bluegate | dondelelcaro: ok ;-) check that out thanks! |
| 23:20.30 | dondelelcaro | bluegate: something like: make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --revision=`date +'%m%d%Y'` --append-to-version `hostname` clean kernel_image modules_iamg |
| 23:20.35 | SocketERR | i have a 250G file on a 8G hdd. e2fsck and badblocks doesn't find a error. what can i do? |
| 23:20.36 | troubled | whats the command to resetup your network? |
| 23:20.48 | troubled | its not in base config is it? |
| 23:20.51 | nvz | TerryG: the pcmcia controller info |
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| 23:21.03 | dondelelcaro | troubled: it's dpkg-reconfigure ifupdown; iirc. |
| 23:21.05 | cafuego | SocketERR: Can you delete it? |
| 23:21.10 | mentor | SocketERR: Delete it? |
| 23:21.12 | troubled | dondelelcaro: ty, ill check |
| 23:21.20 | SocketERR | i dont wannt do delert! |
| 23:21.24 | cafuego | SocketERR: Or did you get the size wrong? |
| 23:21.31 | dondelelcaro | troubled: but I find $EDITOR /etc/network/interfaces to be much easier... |
| 23:21.32 | TerryG | 00:13.0 Cardbus Bridge: Toshiba America Info Systems ToPIC95 (rev 07) |
| 23:21.35 | cafuego | SocketERR: paste the output of 'ls -al file' here |
| 23:21.37 | troubled | dondelelcaro: :) |
| 23:21.39 | TerryG | and 00:13.1 same |
| 23:21.42 | mentor | SocketERR: Er what file is it? |
| 23:21.44 | SocketERR | yes, vmware write wrong file size |
| 23:22.10 | bino | mentor: what is the -l version? |
| 23:22.19 | SocketERR | -rw------- 1 matrix matrix 260919197696 2004-01-08 23:53 linux-s002.vmdk |
| 23:22.19 | gino | ntpdate ntp-sop.inria.fr |
| 23:22.25 | troubled | dondelelcaro: nope, didnt ask anything |
| 23:22.37 | dondelelcaro | troubled: hrm. It might only happen in base-config. |
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| 23:22.55 | psycose | well, i've install ntp & ntp-simple, i've set up a ntp server correctly, & it work the first time... but i would like ntpd to update my time several times per day ... any tips ? i though he will do it by default .. |
| 23:22.56 | cafuego | SocketERR: Okay, make a new vmware disk, copy the contents across, delete the 250Gb one |
| 23:22.58 | caro | hello |
| 23:23.02 | mentor | bino: -1 (one) it's a minor revision with patches for several security holes. |
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| 23:23.15 | caro | Back again trying to solve my cdburning problem |
| 23:23.20 | troubled | dondelelcaro: thats what im thinking. dhcp is borked, cant get an ip in sarge now and I cant admin it remotely to fix it. on the phone atm trying to figure out whats going on. fscking dhcp |
| 23:23.29 | SocketERR | cafuego: thx |
| 23:23.36 | caro | scsibus0: |
| 23:23.36 | caro | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:23.36 | caro | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:23.40 | nvz | TerryG: personally I would try a newer kernel before anything else.. but I am going to see if I find anything |
| 23:23.41 | dondelelcaro | troubled: kernel issues? |
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| 23:23.49 | cafuego | SocketERR: .. copy from within vmware... and keep an eye on the filesize. |
| 23:23.50 | troubled | dondelelcaro: no, trusted kernel (2.4) |
| 23:24.02 | dondelelcaro | troubled: hrm. can you manuall assign an ip to it? |
| 23:24.04 | eeyore- | interesting shorewall.conf option, ADMINABSENTMINDED=Yes |
| 23:24.06 | gino | see you soon |
| 23:24.12 | caro | The above was the result of -scanbus |
| 23:24.16 | troubled | dondelelcaro: no, cable wont talk to it if I do static |
| 23:24.17 | eeyore- | it's nice to see it's got real-world option |
| 23:24.18 | nvz | TerryG: you are using 2.2.19 current version is 2.6.0 and I am assuming you have not even looked at any of the changelogs on kernel.org to see if this is a known and resolved issue |
| 23:24.20 | dondelelcaro | troubled: or just run dhclient eth0; |
| 23:24.21 | TerryG | thank you, i have tried 2.4.18 i think, whichever one is inthe current stable (downloaded on tuesday) |
| 23:24.28 | troubled | dondelelcaro: just trying that now actually |
| 23:24.38 | bino | mentor: worked! son of a gun |
| 23:25.04 | bino | mentor: didnt realise updating kernel was that easy on debian....have done it b4 on others |
| 23:25.09 | TerryG | i am running an older kernel because i was told that the pcmcia module was not so fussy in potato |
| 23:25.21 | ercin | xlibs is conflicting with libxv1 |
| 23:25.21 | nvz | TerryG: looks promising googled for "Topic97 No IRQ" and it seems to be a common issue |
| 23:25.25 | ercin | what can i do ? |
| 23:25.32 | mentor | bino: Well, Debian does have some good stuff about it |
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| 23:25.40 | dondelelcaro | troubled: it's the same kernel that you've been running before, right? [right options for DHCP and everything...] |
| 23:25.46 | TerryG | there are several pages on it with people saying that it just works on a 2.2.x kernel |
| 23:25.47 | caro | I believe that I should select generic - mmc for my Hitachi dvdrom |
| 23:26.04 | caro | Should it be the same for the maxtor? |
| 23:26.17 | caro | in k3b? |
| 23:26.19 | TerryG | there are people asking questions in the debian archive but no solutions |
| 23:26.34 | TerryG | ok, i shal investigate further |
| 23:26.43 | nvz | TerryG: yeah. what are you using on the software side? hotplug? |
| 23:27.08 | TerryG | i havent managed anything other than the base install yet, pcmcia network card |
| 23:27.08 | caro | Or should I be running k3b setup first? |
| 23:27.24 | eeyore- | anybody want a list of trojan ports (slightly out of date) for use on shorewall? |
| 23:27.30 | eeyore- | tcp/udp |
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| 23:28.02 | mentor | eeyore-: Does that include UBP? |
| 23:28.05 | nvz | TerryG: yeah.. well its hard to say what could be wrong when you are using ancient software. |
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| 23:28.42 | TerryG | nvz: what install should i download? |
| 23:28.50 | TerryG | i have stable here but that is only a 2.4 |
| 23:28.53 | mentor | eeyore-: Uniform Backdoor Protocol, RFC 31337 |
| 23:28.55 | cafuego | caro: generic-mmc-raw seems to work fine for most ide drives |
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| 23:29.26 | eeyore- | mentor: is there really an RFC by that elite number? lemme check |
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| 23:29.58 | nvz | TerryG: yeah you should be using woody, and as far as kernels, you should just try something new, see what happens, you can always change the kernel after the install, I'd try a more recent kernel like 2.4.23 or 2.6.0 first before even investigating |
| 23:31.00 | mentor | zinx: ug? |
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| 23:31.10 | eeyore- | mentor: :-D |
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| 23:31.34 | zinx | mentor: no worries, there are only two 6-byte commands :) |
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| 23:32.12 | mentor | zinx: I was ug'ing at your 'just use SCSI anyway' comment. |
| 23:32.13 | xativa | apt-get segmentation fault! what can i do? |
| 23:32.33 | TerryG | nvz: do u know wot kernel version comes in stable? http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/ |
| 23:32.39 | mentor | xativa: File a bug report! Recompile with debugging symbols and debug? |
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| 23:32.42 | mentor | ~wpt |
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| 23:32.47 | cafuego | what /me finds more annoying is that k3b claims to support writing via ATA but in fact refuses to see ATA drives without ide-scsi |
| 23:32.47 | mentor | ~wot |
| 23:32.49 | | well, wot is it about? |
| 23:33.01 | mentor | !wot |
| 23:33.01 | dpkg | It's 'what', you idiot |
| 23:33.10 | xativa | mentor, i can't do that?? i'm a newbie... :'( |
| 23:33.15 | zeke | someone want to help me with an error i got while compiling binutils? i'll paste it in flood. |
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| 23:33.19 | zinx | mentor: that wasn't a "just use SCSI anyway" comment |
| 23:33.30 | cafuego | zinx: Why are you compiling binutils? |
| 23:33.33 | beta3 | whats a good spanish<->english translator |
| 23:33.35 | zinx | mentor: it was a "that's how IDE drives work" comment :) |
| 23:33.38 | cafuego | arrgh |
| 23:33.42 | cafuego | s/zinx/zeke/ |
| 23:33.43 | psycose | how to make ntpd update my time several times per day |
| 23:33.50 | cafuego | psycose: crontab -e |
| 23:33.57 | mentor | zinx: Yes...I was wondering in what context you meant... |
| 23:34.09 | mentor | xativa: File a bug report? |
| 23:34.09 | Czesiu | psycose: ntpd is doing it all the time |
| 23:34.40 | zinx | mentor: i was meaning it's not terribly difficult to port a SCSI cd burning program to use IDE/ATAPI :) |
| 23:34.43 | zeke | cafuego: i'm compiling binutils trying out lfs, unfortunately, #lfs and #linux haven't been too helpful. so i figured i'd ask in #debian cos i use debian. there's no really appropriate place, that i know of. |
| 23:34.44 | Czesiu | psycose: if you want to do it periodicaly use ntpdate |
| 23:34.54 | zinx | mentor: only the low-level stuff needs changed :) |
| 23:34.58 | psycose | Czesiu no my clock is still not to date... and ntpd is running and my ntp server is good .. |
| 23:35.04 | mentor | psycose: ntpd updates your time many times every hour. |
| 23:35.13 | mentor | zinx: oh ok. |
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| 23:35.30 | qtio | at what step in the process would I add IPSEC support to the kernel when recompiling (im at make menuconfig now) |
| 23:35.36 | mentor | psycose: ntpq; peers |
| 23:35.41 | nvz | TerryG: 2.2.20-idepci, 2.4bf come in the installer.. but it has 2.4.18, and many others available |
| 23:35.48 | psycose | cafuego thanks |
| 23:35.55 | psycose | mentor thanks |
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| 23:36.14 | TerryG | can i download a kernel stick it on a floppy and use that to upgrade after the install? |
| 23:36.17 | RussBrain | åÓÔØ ÔÕÔ ËÔÏ Ó òÏÓÓÉÉ? =) |
| 23:36.23 | cafuego | RussBrain: yes |
| 23:36.43 | nvz | TerryG: no its pretty much apt-get install it from the web or cd then reboot, or d/l from kernel.org and compile |
| 23:36.57 | ockwick | which package contains the tag lib? it's a library to read mp3/ogg id3 tags, you link to it with -ltag |
| 23:36.59 | zeke | cafuego: will i get no help here? i know it's not strictly debian, but, nyeh, i need help wherever i can get it. |
| 23:37.01 | TerryG | ahh |
| 23:37.08 | TerryG | this is going to be fun |
| 23:37.28 | RussBrain | cafuego: native people... =)) |
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| 23:37.53 | cafuego | zeke: Well, without knowing the actual problem we can't do much to help either way. |
| 23:38.10 | zeke | cafuego: said i'd paste it in #flood if someone would help... |
| 23:38.15 | RussBrain | cafuego: you speak english whell? |
| 23:38.26 | cafuego | RussBrain: Why wouldn't I? |
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| 23:38.51 | caro | Unable to find cdrecord executable |
| 23:38.51 | caro | K3b uses cdrecord to actually write cds. Without cdrecord K3b won't be able to properly initialize the writing devices. |
| 23:38.51 | caro | Solution: Install the cdrtools package which contains cdrecord. |
| 23:38.51 | caro | Unable to find cdrdao executable |
| 23:38.51 | caro | K3b uses cdrdao to actually write cds. Without cdrdao you won't be able to copy |
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| 23:38.53 | cafuego | RussBrain: het is toch een vrij makkelijke taal. |
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| 23:39.59 | RussBrain | cafuego: you from Russia? |
| 23:40.01 | cafuego | caro: yes, chown root.cdrom cdrecord, cdrdao and readcd. Then chmod 4750 them all and add yourself to the cdrom group. |
| 23:40.09 | cafuego | RussBrain: No, I'm from holland. |
| 23:40.28 | RussBrain | cafuego: I am sorry =) |
| 23:40.31 | Hal9002 | hmmmm should i install eggdrop 1.6.15 or is the 1.6.8-2 from debian woody good enough? |
| 23:40.44 | cafuego | RussBrain: yeah, so was I, that's why I moved to Australia. |
| 23:40.58 | zeke | caguego: if you care to help, i just pasted it to #flood |
| 23:40.59 | psycose | mentor : oops ;-) ntpq>peers, ntpq:read: Connection refused, my ntp.conf get a valid ntp server ... |
| 23:41.02 | eeyore- | hmm, block enough trojan ports and nothing gets out of your network. bastards. |
| 23:41.11 | RussBrain | cafuego: you know Russian people on this channel? |
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| 23:41.29 | mentor | psycose: Be root? |
| 23:41.30 | littlejohn | Yhg1s: yeah good point |
| 23:41.48 | psycose | mentor sure ;-) |
| 23:41.55 | cafuego | RussBrain: Nope... I think there was one a few days ago, but I can't remember. |
| 23:42.06 | cafuego | zeke: paste away on #flood |
| 23:42.30 | zeke | cafuego: there it is. |
| 23:42.34 | sandman | Can I enter my domain for my hostname? |
| 23:42.45 | littlejohn | ooops bad channel sorry |
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| 23:43.13 | Aaton | anyone recently running debian/unstable and having problems compiling programs that need files in /usr/include/linux I'm running the latest 2.4.23-1-686-smp ? |
| 23:43.20 | cafuego | sandman: No, that would be naughty. |
| 23:43.46 | somiaj | Aaton: do you have the kernel-headers package installed for that kernel? and libc6-dev? |
| 23:43.54 | qtio | the only thing i can find in make menuconfig for IPSEC is this <*> IP: IPsec user configuration interface (NEW) - is this all i need to build IPSEC into the kernel? |
| 23:43.54 | psycose | mentor ? i've done it as root , any tips ? |
| 23:44.02 | netbrain | how can i use flags with sysvinit? |
| 23:44.05 | Aaton | I can't compile from source samhain... somiaj yes |
| 23:44.12 | netbrain | DAEMON=/usr/bin/giftd -d |
| 23:44.23 | cafuego | Aaton: /usr/include/linux isn't related to the current kernel version. |
| 23:44.25 | sandman | cafuego: What should I enter as my hostname, then? |
| 23:44.45 | sandman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:45.00 | sandman | cme.mine.nu points to my IP =) |
| 23:45.15 | psycose | well on another subject i wonder why my mozilla firebird use netstat pstree give MozillaFirebird(1331)---netstat(1581) |
| 23:45.22 | cafuego | sandman: that'll do, then |
| 23:45.22 | mentor | psycose: Are you sure ntpd is running? |
| 23:45.30 | sandman | cafuego: okay, will do |
| 23:45.53 | Aaton | cafuego: ok, so what the tick to tell make or configure not to look there and use the kernel-headers-2.4.23-1-686-smp files instead? |
| 23:46.00 | Drizzt321 | with lilo, how do I tell it to write the bootloader out to a different device than the primary boot device? |
| 23:46.09 | psycose | mentor well he is in my pstree -p list ;-) |
| 23:46.09 | Aaton | s/tick/trick |
| 23:46.34 | somiaj | Drizzt321: man lilo.conf then make the aproprate changes to /etc/lilo.conf |
| 23:47.03 | Drizzt321 | somiaj: I have, scanned through it and didn't see exactly what it needed. is it the root= option in the config file? |
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| 23:47.22 | Drizzt321 | somiaj: or the boot=? |
| 23:47.38 | Drizzt321 | ah, boot= |
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| 23:47.41 | Drizzt321 | duh |
| 23:47.44 | somiaj | Drizzt321: the boot= optoin tells it which device to install lilo into. |
| 23:47.44 | cafuego | Aaton: Depends on what you're compiling i guess. /usr/include/linux should contain the kernel headers used to compile your libc6. |
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| 23:48.01 | Cy6erBr4in | Drizzt321: boot=... |
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| 23:50.13 | psycose | mentor oh lud, i think it's because i exeed (4000) the sanity limit wich is 1000 |
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| 23:50.25 | qtio | Has anyone built IPSEC into the kernel? |
| 23:50.45 | cafuego | qtio: Everyone who uses it, I would guess. |
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| 23:50.56 | nvz | qtio: obviously someone has.. or else it wouldnt exist |
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| 23:51.01 | mentor | psycose: ah, you should try setting your 'restrict' options in ntp.conf to allow ntpq |
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| 23:51.26 | qtio | nvz perhaps ill find one of them someday |
| 23:51.29 | mentor | psycose: Often the cause of ntpd not syncing is because you ar emore than 4 seconds(?) out...run ntpdate first... |
| 23:51.44 | qtio | nvz if you see him let them know i have a question for him ;) |
| 23:51.47 | psycose | mentor oki thanks for the tips |
| 23:51.55 | qtio | s/them/him |
| 23:51.59 | nvz | qtio: maybe.. usually works better to ask specific questions and then these people just magically come out of the woodwork |
| 23:52.18 | qtio | nvz yeah i know....sometimes this way works better too |
| 23:52.22 | qtio | the only thing i can find in make menuconfig for IPSEC is this <*> IP: IPsec user configuration interface (NEW) - is this all i need to build IPSEC into the kernel? |
| 23:52.43 | nvz | qtio: nope, usually just gives us the oppertunity to ridicule |
| 23:52.49 | cafuego | qtio: No, you need encryption algorithms too and possibly some other IP related things. |
| 23:53.25 | qtio | cafuego i didnt see IPSEC listed in the encryption menu |
| 23:53.45 | qtio | sorry cryptographic options |
| 23:53.55 | cafuego | qtio: No, you wouldn't. It says stuff like MD5, SHA1, Blowfish etc. |
| 23:54.00 | nvz | qtio: did you delve into your source tree under the Documentation and see if there was some educational literature? |
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| 23:54.41 | nvz | qtio: what version of the source are you working with? |
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| 23:54.57 | qtio | nvz no im more rather stumbling in the dark peicing together random information i find on google and freeswan |
| 23:55.17 | qtio | nvz 2.4.22 |
| 23:55.17 | pattieja | I was generating a new module for my running kernel and it doesn't work. The previous module (from the .deb kernel-image file) does work. Is there a dpkg command I can run that will let me extract a single file from the .deb package file? |
| 23:55.44 | nvz | qtio: hmm.. interesting |
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| 23:55.59 | nvz | qtio: hows that going? |
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| 23:56.11 | lizdeika | i have apt-get'ed kernel-source-2.4.23 and supermount-ng patch. now how do i patch the kernel ? |
| 23:56.12 | Hal9002 | how do i know what version of TCL i'm running? there are many different in apt-cache... |
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| 23:56.15 | psycose | mentor many thanks for your tips ;-) ""applause"" |
| 23:56.24 | qtio | nvz: not too well thanks ;) |
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| 23:56.31 | cafuego | qtio: You working on a desktop box? |
| 23:56.47 | Ng | any debian sparc people about? anything man related seems to be segfaulting on my IPX, any ideas why? |
| 23:56.54 | asg | Hal9002: man tcl (search for 'version') |
| 23:56.55 | qtio | cafuego: no a server |
| 23:57.01 | cafuego | qtio: With Debian testing or unstable? |
| 23:57.07 | cafuego | Ah ok.. never mind then. |
| 23:57.18 | Hal9002 | asg, No manual entry for tcl |
| 23:57.30 | asg | Hal9002: sorry, try 'man wish' |
| 23:57.36 | zeke | cafuego: i figured it out. this lfs manual is shitty... |
| 23:57.36 | mama_pitufo | Hal9002, wish -v? |
| 23:57.51 | pattieja | qtio: you can manually download the superfreeswan tarball and patch it against your kernel-source tree (although you will need to use a vanilla kernel source) |
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| 23:58.12 | pattieja | qtio: then make-kpkg to build kernel-image .deb's |
| 23:58.13 | mama_pitufo | Hal9002, nevermind, wish dows not have such an option |
| 23:58.22 | Hal9002 | hehe |
| 23:58.28 | Hal9002 | man whis worked, i have 8.0... thanks |
| 23:59.14 | pattieja | ahh. dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile ... | tar ... |
| 23:59.15 | qtio | pattieja I might try that but i dont know hwat a vanilla kernel is |
| 23:59.20 | nvz | qtio: I hear vanilla is the finest of the flavors |
| 23:59.20 | bino | does anyone know how easy it is to install two soundcards on debian? |
| 23:59.27 | nvz | qtio: or kernel source from kernel.org |
| 23:59.30 | pattieja | qtio: one you download from www.kernel.org |
| 23:59.53 | somiaj | bino: I have two working with alsa just fine. |
