| 00:00.14 | freakazoid | dho: oh, ok |
| 00:00.22 | freakazoid | dho: Missed that because I was still in #flood |
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| 00:00.26 | freakazoid | or I should say I was in that tap |
| 00:00.28 | dho | ah ok |
| 00:00.28 | freakazoid | err tab |
| 00:00.34 | dho | why would that have fixed it anyway? |
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| 00:00.59 | freakazoid | dho: because pkg-config looks for the proper files for compiling, not running |
| 00:01.12 | freakazoid | dho: which means the -dev package will have the right files for any given package |
| 00:01.19 | freakazoid | dho: did that make any sense? |
| 00:01.32 | freakazoid | dho: pkg-config is for development so you need the development package :) |
| 00:01.43 | trast | dpkg, very very thanks with de console-tools |
| 00:01.43 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, trast |
| 00:01.57 | trast | don't worry it works |
| 00:02.00 | trast | works fine |
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| 00:02.04 | trast | thanks a lot |
| 00:02.07 | dho | ok |
| 00:02.08 | freakazoid | dho: libgnomeui-0 is only useful for packages that are already compiled. to compile them, you need -dev |
| 00:02.17 | dho | i got it |
| 00:02.28 | emitchlpd | stepping 10; 1400 Mhz |
| 00:02.29 | dho | now i got different compile errors however |
| 00:02.39 | emitchlpd | no indication of whether it's a p3 or p4 though |
| 00:02.41 | paulswm | if dpkg keeps saying "haven't a clue", new visitors will think he's a real person |
| 00:02.41 | freakazoid | cool. I can rejoin #flood and you can paste if you want |
| 00:03.03 | dho | my first error is |
| 00:03.04 | dho | i have a package that needs libgnomeui-2.0 and i have the package with a different name |
| 00:03.07 | dho | woops |
| 00:03.10 | sussudio | emitchlpd: model name? |
| 00:03.14 | dho | that was from before |
| 00:03.21 | dho | my first error is |
| 00:03.31 | emitchlpd | Intel Xeon CPU 1400 Mhz |
| 00:03.32 | dho | callbacks.c:9: pcap.h: No such file or directory |
| 00:03.39 | dho | pcap.h ? |
| 00:03.41 | freakazoid | dho: install libpcap-dev |
| 00:03.46 | melonio | libpcap-dev |
| 00:03.47 | streuner | !find pcap.h |
| 00:03.54 | dho | ok thanks |
| 00:03.55 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'pcap.h' (4 shown): (/usr/include/pcap.h) in libdevel/libpcap-dev ;; (/usr/lib/tiger/html/pcap.html) in admin/tiger ;; (/usr/include/nessus/pcap.h) in libdevel/libnessus-dev ;; (/usr/share/doc/texmf/help/Catalogue/entries/pcap.html) in doc/tetex-doc. |
| 00:03.58 | freakazoid | dho: also, if you install apt-file, you can run apt-file update and apt-file search <filename> |
| 00:04.11 | streuner | !tell dho about search |
| 00:04.14 | freakazoid | dho: and that'll tell you what packages contain a given file pattern |
| 00:04.19 | scarynetworkguy | metronomes cost all the money in the world |
| 00:04.20 | emitchlpd | sussudio: I'm just going to go with p3 |
| 00:04.23 | emitchlpd | to be save |
| 00:04.26 | freakazoid | !tell freakazoid about search |
| 00:04.30 | emitchlpd | s/save/safe/ |
| 00:04.40 | freakazoid | woo, dpkg is smart |
| 00:05.10 | stew | freakazoid: /msg dpkg search |
| 00:05.10 | dho | oh thanks, that helps |
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| 00:05.35 | streuner | !stats |
| 00:05.35 | dpkg | Since Sun Jan 18 06:07:04 2004, there have been 25 modifications, 835 questions, 214 dunnos, 5 morons and 263 commands. I have been awake for 2d 17h 58m 31s this session, and currently reference 22943 factoids. I'm using about 17228 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 370.27/20.45 child 419.22/24.45 |
| 00:05.57 | freakazoid | dho: There's also auto-apt, but that is a little like magic, and it doesn't always work |
| 00:06.22 | sussudio | emitchlpd: http://support.intel.com/support/processors/procid/ptype.htm |
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| 00:06.23 | dho | morons? |
| 00:06.26 | stew | magic always works |
| 00:06.39 | cyberdrek | !tell cyberdrek about search |
| 00:06.47 | streuner | dpkg -l libc6 |
| 00:06.47 | dpkg | ii libc6 1.5-4.3 streuner's private stamp collection |
| 00:06.51 | g4lt | stew Just ask Houdini... |
| 00:06.57 | ftewdal | anyone ever use pam-ldap? |
| 00:06.57 | dho | so to find out what owns make[2]: *** [callbacks.o] Error 1 |
| 00:07.00 | dho | what would i do |
| 00:07.08 | PerfDave | ftewdal: I have done |
| 00:07.10 | sussudio | magic's not going to help you from a fist in the guts |
| 00:07.11 | dho | callbacks.o morelike |
| 00:07.27 | ftewdal | PerfDave: I've setup the pam_ldap.conf |
| 00:07.36 | streuner | sussudio: 'fist in the guts'? |
| 00:07.49 | stew | !+houdini |
| 00:07.49 | dpkg | from memory, houdini is a moron who knows how to type |
| 00:07.49 | ftewdal | how do i enable logins to use it |
| 00:08.00 | sussudio | g4lt: i have a restraining order here for you. stop pestering kawfee with difficult concepts like what gender someone is. |
| 00:08.01 | stew | huh |
| 00:08.09 | ftewdal | PerfDave: is there a log i can check for errors when using pam_ldap? |
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| 00:08.25 | PerfDave | ftewdal: Look in /etc/pam.d/* and /etc/pam.conf |
| 00:08.33 | Chromakode | is xlibs-dev broken in experimental? |
| 00:08.38 | troubled | tempo___: heya |
| 00:08.46 | PerfDave | Chromakode: Probably, it's experimental ;) |
| 00:08.46 | troubled | tempo___: /nick tempo :) |
| 00:08.48 | sussudio | Chromakode: most probably, yes. |
| 00:08.50 | Chromakode | lol |
| 00:08.52 | Chromakode | :( |
| 00:08.53 | Bangz | anyone know why splashimage doesnt work over pxegrub? |
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| 00:09.05 | Chromakode | time to break it further then! |
| 00:09.08 | Chromakode | muahaha |
| 00:09.12 | troubled | sussudio: wtf are you doin here? thought you werent getting along with the ops? |
| 00:09.39 | dho | im not sure to figure out what would own callbacks.o |
| 00:09.43 | sussudio | troubled: he got his own back |
| 00:09.47 | dho | owns* |
| 00:10.58 | Chromakode | interesting. i unbroke it O.o |
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| 00:10.58 | troubled | sussudio: i see *shrug* |
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| 00:11.18 | freakazoid | dho: what are you compiling |
| 00:11.27 | g4lt | troubled he ran out of Caesar cyphers, so he had to eat crow ;P |
| 00:11.38 | troubled | g4lt: rofl |
| 00:11.40 | dho | i wanted to try out airsnort |
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| 00:12.02 | dho | not really gunna use it though, just havnt compiled much of anything |
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| 00:12.04 | sussudio | g4lt: you're confusing your diet with what normal people eat. |
| 00:12.05 | freakazoid | dho: there is a debian package for airsnort you know |
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| 00:12.13 | dho | really? |
| 00:12.17 | troubled | g4lt: nah, he is using rot26 now |
| 00:12.28 | troubled | g4lt: almost didnt recognize him, sneaky bugger |
| 00:12.31 | dho | LOL |
| 00:12.33 | dho | holy crap |
| 00:12.38 | dho | i dunno why i didnt try that |
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| 00:12.58 | freakazoid | dho: there's even a backport of it for woody |
| 00:13.05 | freakazoid | dho: if you're not on a sid or sarge system |
| 00:13.18 | dho | backport? |
| 00:13.39 | freakazoid | !tell dho about backports |
| 00:13.43 | Spider210 | How come my php is asking to download? Like the pages don't display they display as downloads? |
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| 00:13.51 | stew | does airsnort work with prism or orinoco or both? |
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| 00:14.01 | g4lt | sussudio show me a normal person around ehre.... |
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| 00:14.13 | freakazoid | stew: Anything that support pcap with the full 802.11 headers I believe, which both of those do AFAIK |
| 00:14.15 | dho | im on unstable now anyway |
| 00:14.25 | dho | i installed it i just need to find an airport driver |
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| 00:14.28 | freakazoid | airsnort is kind of boring to run though |
| 00:14.41 | freakazoid | you have to collect a LOT of packets usually to find any weak ones |
| 00:14.48 | stew | gotcha |
| 00:14.55 | dho | do you know of an alternate? |
| 00:14.59 | linuxbox | When i try to install debian, my DHCP settings wont autodetect, why would that happen? everyother distro ive used detects them |
| 00:15.00 | dho | ive |
| 00:15.01 | dho | lol |
| 00:15.01 | andyschm | hi; does anyone have advice for how to fix a full disk? I can't boot into linux (init scripts are 'not executable'...). |
| 00:15.07 | freakazoid | no, it's just that cracking wep keys is boring |
| 00:15.13 | coch | Hello, I'm trying to install emacs on a system on which I don't have any priviledges, but I can't figure how to set up several paths. could someone give me a hand ? |
| 00:15.14 | hacim | is there a better server mobo out there since the l440gx+? I need GOOD serial console, ie. remote rebooting as well as bios access |
| 00:15.14 | dho | ya |
| 00:15.22 | freakazoid | if your goal is to sniff the air rather than cracking WEP, kismet is the tool to use |
| 00:15.22 | Chromakode | andyschm: knoppix. |
| 00:15.24 | Mase | if you are missing just one file, is there any way to apt-get the package with that file? |
| 00:15.35 | sussudio | !tell revenger about away |
| 00:15.35 | troubled | freakazoid: you speak from experience ? :) |
| 00:15.46 | sussudio | !tell revengeslayer about away |
| 00:15.49 | sussudio | !bugger revengeslayer |
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| 00:15.59 | freakazoid | troubled: I work for a wireless security company :) |
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| 00:16.19 | sussudio | rngs? |
| 00:16.20 | dho | um ok then |
| 00:16.22 | freakazoid | troubled: We have about 22 access points here |
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| 00:16.29 | freakazoid | very crowded air |
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| 00:16.43 | jp- | freakazoid, we have quite a few here |
| 00:16.49 | freakazoid | three of them run WEP, and the rest use WPA or 802.1x authenticated mode |
| 00:16.52 | jp- | wireless access all over campus. |
| 00:16.55 | troubled | freakazoid: well, I guess I would snoop the air around my place too if my machines had wifi |
| 00:17.00 | linuxbox | When i try to install debian, my DHCP settings wont autodetect, why would that happen? everyother distro ive used detects them |
| 00:17.10 | freakazoid | It's pretty trivial to find open APs though |
| 00:17.11 | jp- | using wireless right now to get on the net... it sucks :) |
| 00:17.21 | jp- | goes out too much, but it's either that or dialup. |
| 00:17.28 | freakazoid | Every place I use wireless has at least one open AP in range |
| 00:17.52 | freakazoid | jp-: goes out due to known outage problems or wireless conditions? |
| 00:18.13 | linuxbox | Could anybody help me out? |
| 00:18.29 | troubled | any exim gurus around here use filtering? trying to match the Return-path line. I tried if $h_return-path: contains "blahfoobar.domain.com" then save ...., but no luck so far |
| 00:18.32 | freakazoid | linuxbox: sounds like you're using a NIC that's not supported by the install image you're using |
| 00:18.37 | jp- | freakazoid, not sure if it's conditions or not, i think it's faulty hardware cause sometimes it just works great for weeks, great signal and all.. then it'll start getting all flakey, signal comes and goes |
| 00:18.42 | jp- | then it'll just start working again... |
| 00:18.44 | troubled | linuxbox: only if you ask another question |
| 00:18.47 | linuxbox | I have other nics, so i should try those? |
| 00:18.51 | freakazoid | troubled: Used to use exim, I now use Postfix |
| 00:18.56 | troubled | linuxbox: nm, my bad, missed what you typed |
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| 00:19.01 | freakazoid | linuxbox: What is the NIC you're using, and what NICs do you have? |
| 00:19.01 | troubled | freakazoid: good mta? |
| 00:19.02 | jp- | i've reported the problem lots of times, but they want to inspect my pc first and they don't work on linux so i'm just S.O.L. |
| 00:19.09 | cafuego | troubled: very good mta |
| 00:19.19 | linuxbox | im not sure whats in, but i have an SMC one... i beleive thats the brand..ill check hold on |
| 00:19.21 | troubled | cafuego: I just might switch. exim filters are pissing me off |
| 00:19.23 | freakazoid | troubled: Yes, but if you want really flexible filtering, you may want to stick with exim |
| 00:19.30 | troubled | cafuego: it supports alising too doesnt it? |
| 00:19.31 | cafuego | troubled: postfix filters are eeeasy |
| 00:19.33 | dho | how do i apply the orinoco patches? |
| 00:19.42 | thebug | what's the trick to get apt to reinstall packages that are already installed |
| 00:19.42 | cafuego | troubled: yeah, I run it with all my mail user info in mysql. |
| 00:19.46 | linuxbox | yes i have an SMC NIC |
| 00:19.52 | kreg | if i have a dvd-burner, could i put a moive disk in the drive, dd it to an iso, and then cdrecord it back to a dvdr? |
| 00:19.55 | linuxbox | are those compatible with debian |
| 00:20.00 | cafuego | linuxbox: That'll be an 8139too |
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| 00:20.16 | mathrick | cya |
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| 00:20.22 | jp- | kreg, i wouldn't expect copying a dvd to be that easy, but who knows. |
| 00:20.24 | jp- | it may be. |
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| 00:20.38 | freakazoid | linuxbox: Also you can choose "configure drivers..." or whatever and see if you can find your nic in the network modules |
| 00:20.39 | cafuego | kreg: cdrdao copy, perhaps |
| 00:20.39 | dho | friekazoid do you know how to aply the orinoco patches for airsnort? |
| 00:20.40 | troubled | cafuego: and after I spent all that time configuring exim ;( |
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| 00:20.59 | linuxbox | ok. |
| 00:21.01 | kreg | same here, but i don't see what encryption has to do with stopping a bit for bit transfer. if it's a 1, write, it, if it's a 0, write it |
| 00:21.03 | troubled | caphuso: wheres my |
| 00:21.04 | cafuego | dho: Get the 13e patch from thei airsnort website, apply it to the *kernel* orinoco driver. |
| 00:21.08 | *** mode/#debian [-srg] by caphuso |
| 00:21.10 | troubled | caphuso: wheres my +o already? :) |
| 00:21.11 | *** mode/#debian [-srg] by RichiH |
| 00:21.13 | freakazoid | dho: Unfortunately no. I haven't used orinoco with it, because i have like 100 wireless cards to choose from |
| 00:21.15 | *** mode/#debian [-o RichiH] by RichiH |
| 00:21.24 | linuxbox | well is anyone in here on debian with a SMC1244TX NIC? |
| 00:21.25 | Chromakode | :/ |
| 00:21.27 | freakazoid | dho: My best luck has been with a Prism2 card using the hostap drivers |
| 00:21.28 | troubled | and wtf is +srg for anyways? |
| 00:21.29 | dho | cafuego: sorry im new at this, apply how? |
| 00:21.33 | jp- | kreg, agreed, not sure how it will handle multiple tracks though |
| 00:21.45 | dho | freakazoid im on ppc hardware |
| 00:21.47 | cafuego | linuxbox: Like I said, use the 8139too driver. |
| 00:21.53 | linuxbox | ooh ok |
| 00:21.54 | linuxbox | thank you |
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| 00:22.00 | cafuego | dho: cd drivers/net/wireless; patch < patchfile |
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| 00:22.14 | roler | how do I get mozilla to make the webpages look like my gnome2? |
| 00:22.25 | sussudio | !canucksmite troubled |
| 00:22.48 | dho | ok |
| 00:22.57 | davidsmind | What tools does debian have for kernel compilation from source??? |
| 00:22.58 | freakazoid | roler: You might consider running mozilla firebird if you want it to look like the rest of gnome2 |
| 00:23.04 | freakazoid | roler: or try galeon |
| 00:23.06 | cafuego | troubled: silicates are poisonous |
| 00:23.16 | Chromakode | davidsmind: kpackage |
| 00:23.21 | sussudio | troubled: badgerbadgerbadgerbadger |
| 00:23.25 | troubled | :) |
| 00:23.26 | freakazoid | !tell davidsmind about kp |
| 00:23.29 | dho | cafuego: i have to compile the patch first right? |
| 00:23.32 | troubled | sussudio: wtf is taht reference for anyways? |
| 00:23.32 | cafuego | roler: Contact the webmasters of all pages you access and make them change their designs. |
| 00:23.34 | Chromakode | sussudio: mushroom mushroom |
| 00:23.43 | cafuego | dho: No, you have to apply the patch, the compile the kernel. |
| 00:23.44 | sussudio | troubled: a snaaaaake |
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| 00:23.48 | simonrvn | a cyrix/233 MHz is what kind of x86 cpu? as in, which kernel-image do i need, 586 or 686? |
| 00:23.51 | Chromakode | sussudio: mushroom mushroom |
| 00:23.55 | troubled | sussudio: ahhh *shrug* |
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| 00:23.58 | roler | freakazoid ;well, when I load galeon i run mozilla, and the browser looks the same. Furthermore, it turns off my blended TTF fonts. also, firebird doens't seem to support them either |
| 00:23.59 | sussudio | simonrvn: pentium |
| 00:24.05 | cafuego | sussudio: 586 afaik |
| 00:24.07 | freakazoid | simonrvn: probably 586 or 586tsc |
| 00:24.12 | cafuego | simonrvn: *not* the tsc one. |
| 00:24.19 | simonrvn | ok, danke |
| 00:24.21 | freakazoid | aah, ok |
| 00:24.29 | sussudio | simonrvn: it's also rather crap |
| 00:24.43 | freakazoid | roler: aah, you want antialiased fonts |
| 00:24.48 | simonrvn | sussudio: i know, though it'S faster than my pI/133 |
| 00:24.50 | troubled | simonrvn: btw, when the fsck did you get that old pentium working and how?! |
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| 00:25.02 | sussudio | i think it's PR233, not really running at 233mhz |
| 00:25.06 | roler | freakazoid ; after loading galeon , I type mozilla right? Loading galeon also removes the mozilla paackage |
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| 00:25.13 | simonrvn | troubled: 2-3 days ago |
| 00:25.15 | freakazoid | roler: no, you run galeon |
| 00:25.22 | freakazoid | roler: but I think what you want is mozilla-xft |
| 00:25.27 | troubled | simonrvn: but how! your an x86 cluebie! |
| 00:25.33 | freakazoid | roler: apt-get install mozilla-xft, that is |
| 00:25.34 | roler | freakazoid ;ya see, i dont have a galeon command when i install the galeon package! |
| 00:25.36 | simonrvn | cpu MHz : 208.268 |
| 00:25.45 | simonrvn | vendor_id : CyrixInstead |
| 00:25.45 | troubled | w00t! |
| 00:26.01 | cafuego | troubled: generally, you plug the box in and hit the power button, but maybe that's just me. |
| 00:26.03 | troubled | simonrvn: is it a cyrix 200 or a 233? |
| 00:26.11 | roler | wow you guys are running old hardware ;) |
| 00:26.16 | simonrvn | bogomips : 414.51 model name : M II 2.5x Core/Bus Clock |
| 00:26.22 | sussudio | simonrvn: actually, they're a bunch of cyrix variants from when they absorbed that other company. |
| 00:26.25 | dho | cd drivers/net/wireless? um i think i missed something, that doesnt exist |
| 00:26.31 | simonrvn | sussudio: i see |
| 00:26.33 | cafuego | simonrvn: waah, that's twice the bogomippage of my 233 603ev :-) |
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| 00:26.42 | cafuego | dho: In the kernel source tree |
| 00:26.57 | dho | ahh |
| 00:26.58 | cafuego | dho: You do *not* want the pcmcia-cs drivers. |
| 00:27.06 | freakazoid | dho: you need to have kernel-source-<version> installed |
| 00:27.12 | simonrvn | weird cpuinfo doesn't display RAM amount on this. is it supposed to on an x86? |
| 00:27.13 | Chromakode | how long till sarge? |
| 00:27.22 | dho | ok, so i dl my kernel source, aply the patch and recompile? |
| 00:27.27 | cafuego | Chromakode: apples |
| 00:27.31 | cafuego | dho: yes |
| 00:27.33 | roler | freakazoid ; thanks! :) |
| 00:27.36 | dho | cool |
| 00:27.36 | sussudio | simonrvn: it might not have cache |
| 00:27.46 | dho | itl be stored in /usr/src right? |
| 00:27.47 | Chromakode | cafuego: applejuice |
| 00:27.52 | simonrvn | stepping : 4 |
| 00:27.59 | cafuego | dho: generally |
| 00:28.00 | simonrvn | sussudio: on-mobo cache |
| 00:28.00 | freakazoid | !tell chromakode about sarge pool |
| 00:28.13 | dho | ok |
| 00:28.18 | i8degrees | anyway to make fstab do what you have it set to do with out having to restart? |
| 00:28.22 | Chromakode | !sarge bet |
| 00:28.22 | dpkg | "sarge pool" has overflowed so use "sarge pool 2". To add a bet to the sarge pool: !sarge pool 2 =~ s/!/! <nick>=yyyy-mm-dd/ |
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| 00:28.40 | sussudio | simonrvn: it's not going to show that unless you have an SMBus and can run lm-sensors on it |
| 00:28.40 | simonrvn | flags : fpu de tsc msr cx8 pge cmov mmx cyrix_arr |
| 00:28.47 | simonrvn | sussudio: ok |
| 00:28.51 | Chromakode | !sarge pool 2 =~ s/!/! Chromakode=2004-02-25/ |
| 00:28.51 | dpkg | OK, Chromakode |
| 00:28.54 | Chromakode | yay :) |
| 00:28.56 | dho | cafuego so i cd to /usr/src/kernelsource... and then run what |
| 00:28.56 | simonrvn | (whatever that means) |
| 00:29.26 | sussudio | why would it show motherboard cache in cpuinfo? |
| 00:29.27 | freakazoid | roler: You mean there is no *menu option* for galeon? |
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| 00:29.44 | roler | freakazoid ;in preferences? |
| 00:29.47 | simonrvn | btw, in sarge anyway, there's no non-tsc 586 kernel images, just 586tsc |
| 00:30.05 | simonrvn | so i get a 686 or what? |
| 00:30.12 | dho | cafuego so i cd to /usr/src/kernelsource... and then run what |
| 00:30.18 | sussudio | simonrvn: not unless you want to boot |
| 00:30.19 | streuner | simonrvn: no |
| 00:30.19 | g4lt | simonrvn yes there is, it's called i386 ;P |
| 00:30.27 | streuner | simonrvn: make your own kernel |
| 00:30.34 | freakazoid | roler: no, you said there was no command, I assumed you meant you were at the command line, but galeon definitely installs a /usr/bin/galeon, so there is a command, so I decided you meant you weren't finding it in the menu |
| 00:30.48 | simonrvn | streuner: i was going to, but i need to get this thing off the bf24 kernel... |
| 00:30.50 | freakazoid | roler: Install mozilla-xft and I think that will fix your problem |
| 00:31.01 | roler | ya its not in command line |
| 00:31.02 | roler | ok |
| 00:31.14 | roler | it already is |
| 00:31.21 | streuner | simonrvn: WinCPU=200Mhz=586 |
| 00:31.25 | simonrvn | it worries me that it'S still on that near useless thing.. |
| 00:31.26 | roler | but I am also running debian testing... so maybe thats why. |
| 00:31.33 | simonrvn | streuner: que? |
| 00:31.54 | simonrvn | oh, you mean a cpu that's around 200 MHz is a 586? |
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| 00:32.01 | freakazoid | roler: you also need truetype fonts installed |
| 00:32.02 | streuner | simonrvn: yeah |
| 00:32.07 | simonrvn | *nods* |
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| 00:32.32 | freakazoid | though if gnome2 shows antialiased fonts, mozilla should work |
| 00:32.44 | simonrvn | you need mozilla-xft for that |
| 00:32.53 | freakazoid | roler: did you restart mozilla (i.e. close *all* mozilla windows) after installing mozilla-xft? |
| 00:32.53 | roler | well i'm not worried about the fonts at the moment |
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| 00:32.58 | roler | i can get them work |
| 00:33.05 | roler | i'm worried about getting the gnome2 themes working |
| 00:33.05 | freakazoid | roler: then what did you mean about not looking like gnome2 |
| 00:33.11 | roler | yes i closed all browsers |
| 00:33.14 | deadcat | i haev esd running, but when i do play file.wav, it wont play.. any idea? |
| 00:33.18 | freakazoid | roler: you want the buttons and menus to use your gtk2 theme? |
| 00:33.23 | roler | like, i have special scroll buttons, radio buttons, pulldown buttons, etc |
| 00:33.25 | roler | freakazoid ;yes |
| 00:33.26 | freakazoid | aah, ok |
| 00:33.29 | Hal9002 | hi, sorry bothering you with this but google doesn't get this kind of input. what kind of code is '? where can i find a table of such similar codes? |
| 00:33.42 | freakazoid | you want to use galeon or firebird for that |
| 00:33.42 | paulswm | !sarge pool 2 =~ s/!/! paulswm=2004-06-01/ |
| 00:33.43 | dpkg | paulswm: OK |
| 00:33.45 | simonrvn | Hal9002: google for html entities |
| 00:33.48 | freakazoid | or epiphany |
| 00:34.12 | freakazoid | galeon has a command, I assure you |
| 00:34.14 | Hal9002 | simonrvn: thanks |
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| 00:34.18 | simonrvn | np |
| 00:34.26 | bztunk | helix! |
| 00:34.32 | roler | galeon is actually reporting errors |
| 00:34.37 | roler | when I do apt-get install galeon |
| 00:34.41 | freakazoid | what errors? |
| 00:34.45 | helix` | bztunk: hi |
| 00:34.47 | roler | it says : galeon: Conflicts: mozilla-browser (>= 2:1.0.1) but 2:1.5-3 is to be installed |
| 00:34.52 | helix` | simonrvn: the monitor works.. with X! w00t |
| 00:35.11 | simonrvn | helix`: nice :) |
| 00:35.25 | bztunk | helix`: i was just imitating bob2 and mwilson :D but yeah, hi |
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| 00:35.32 | freakazoid | roler: did you do an apt-get update recently? |
| 00:35.42 | roler | freakazoid ;yes. i am also running debian testing |
| 00:35.55 | dho | im confused as to what command to use to apply a patch |
| 00:35.59 | freakazoid | roler: yeah, it could be broken in testing, but I don't run testing on anything |
| 00:36.05 | freakazoid | dho: patch |
| 00:36.07 | roler | ya.. ok |
| 00:36.14 | dho | got that |
| 00:36.23 | dho | what directory am i in |
| 00:36.26 | dho | and what args with it? |
| 00:36.40 | freakazoid | roler: try epiphany or mozilla firebird then |
| 00:36.51 | freakazoid | roler: I suspect you'll need a backport for firebird |
| 00:37.00 | paulswm | roler: there is no galeon in sarge/testing |
| 00:37.01 | freakazoid | dho: usually -p 1 |
| 00:37.09 | roler | ok testing epiphany |
| 00:37.13 | freakazoid | dho: /usr/src/<kernel-source-name>/drivers/net/wireless I think |
| 00:37.29 | freakazoid | dho: you will need to untar the kernel sources in /usr/src after installing the kernel-source package |
| 00:37.39 | dho | got that |
| 00:38.04 | paulswm | freakazoid: firebird is in testing, he won't need a backport |
| 00:38.16 | freakazoid | woo! |
| 00:38.19 | freakazoid | testing is moving right along |
| 00:38.29 | roler | i run testing because I love gnome2 and all the neat styles :) |
| 00:38.40 | paulswm | freakazoid: heh, it's been in testing since before galeon was removed |
| 00:38.55 | freakazoid | paulswm: galeon was removed from testing? That might explain his problem |
| 00:39.13 | paulswm | freakazoid: that's why i told him there's no galeon in testing |
| 00:39.16 | dho | aright i ran patch < ./orinoco*.dif now its asking for a file to patch |
| 00:39.23 | freakazoid | roler: it's epiphany-browser, not epiphany, forgot |
| 00:39.24 | dho | do i put the kernel source directory |
| 00:39.29 | roler | galeon is there its just not installing :) |
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| 00:39.35 | paulswm | freakazoid: it was removed a couple of months ago at least |
| 00:39.39 | roler | ok i will try them all:) |
| 00:39.40 | roler | thanks guys |
| 00:39.43 | freakazoid | dho: If you're in the right directory it shouldn't ask you for the filename |
| 00:39.55 | paulswm | roler: ***there is no galeon in the testing distribution*** |
| 00:39.55 | freakazoid | paulswm: Ok, I'll look for messages about it |
| 00:39.56 | dho | hmhm |
| 00:40.04 | freakazoid | paulswm: thanks for the info |
| 00:40.15 | paulswm | freakazoid: np |
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| 00:40.21 | roler | paulswm ;lol |
| 00:40.50 | freakazoid | paulswm: Is that ONLY because it doesn't compile on ARM? |
| 00:41.03 | paulswm | freakazoid: I have no idea |
| 00:41.35 | dho | freakazoid: the correct diectory being hich? |
| 00:41.37 | bart | how would one set the locale, and what should it be set to? That is probably a loaded question - but i tried dpkg-reconfigure localeconf, but the settings don't seem to be working |
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| 00:41.50 | dho | cuz i run this in the directory with the .dif and its blank |
| 00:41.52 | dho | patch |
| 00:41.55 | dho | or |
| 00:42.05 | paulswm | roler: apt-cache search galeon on testing returns only mozilla-firebird, wprint and grokking-the-gimp |
| 00:42.20 | freakazoid | dho: if you're already in drivers/net/wireless, try adding -p1 to your patch command |
| 00:42.30 | sussudio | diGital`aNarchY: alternating caps is usually a precursor to violent diarrhea attacks |
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| 00:42.43 | dho | drivers/net/wireless? |
| 00:42.52 | dho | donde esta? |
| 00:42.57 | freakazoid | dho: /usr/src/<kernel-source-dir-name>/drivers/net/wireless I think |
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| 00:43.06 | jmedina | hello everyone |
| 00:43.16 | dho | huh what was that last line? |
| 00:43.20 | paulswm | !search galeon |
| 00:43.28 | dho | ahhh |
| 00:43.31 | paulswm | whopps |
| 00:43.32 | dho | i got it |
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| 00:43.34 | paulswm | whoops |
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| 00:43.53 | freakazoid | paulswm: whoops? |
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| 00:44.21 | paulswm | freakazoid: yeah.. how do you get the dpkg bot to search for a package? |
| 00:44.38 | roler | mozilla-firebird is exactly what i want. the sad thing is i've been using the binary version of mozilla-firebird for some time now, and it didn't support my themes or fonts |
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| 00:44.43 | roler | but the debian one does! yaaa!! |
| 00:44.48 | roler | it looks so purty |
| 00:44.51 | roler | no! |
| 00:44.52 | freakazoid | paulswm: good question |
| 00:45.24 | dho | alright got it patched |
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| 00:45.44 | freakazoid | dho: yay! |
| 00:46.07 | dho | freak: i havnt compiled a kernel for on debian before |
| 00:46.07 | roler | ok thanks guys very much! |
| 00:46.13 | dho | is it like anything else |
| 00:46.14 | barretj | i just upgraded my kernel (apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.24-1-686) and now when i boot up eth0 is nonexistent so i cant connect to the network |
| 00:46.28 | paulswm | !find galeon |
| 00:46.30 | diGital`aNarchY | sussudio: people who ROT13 their nicks thinking it's cool are generally idiots |
| 00:46.30 | dpkg | galeon: (GNOME web browser for advanced users), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.3.11a-2 (sid), Packaged size: 2561 kB, Installed size: 7507 kB |
| 00:46.49 | barretj | anyone know how to fix this? |
| 00:46.51 | paulswm | see, sid |
| 00:47.03 | paulswm | !find mozilla-firebird |
| 00:47.07 | dpkg | mozilla-firebird: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 0.7-6 (sid), Packaged size: 10352 kB, Installed size: 30560 kB |
| 00:47.12 | sussudio | diGital`aNarchY: no, they're not. you're a fucking moron. |
| 00:47.18 | freakazoid | !tell dho about kp |
| 00:47.23 | RichiH | barretj: run modconf as root and load the module |
| 00:47.23 | dondelelcaro | barretj: load the module for your ethernet card. |
| 00:47.25 | paulswm | crap it always looks at sid |
| 00:47.53 | diGital`aNarchY | sussudio: i bow to your mighty wit, what a retort you hit me with, i am stunned and awed "you're a fucking moron" |
| 00:47.55 | barretj | thanks, i will try that |
| 00:48.01 | barretj | now rebooting.... |
| 00:48.04 | freakazoid | dho: ideally, you might want to try to only compile the module you need, but I don't know exactly how to do that |
| 00:48.07 | diGital`aNarchY | i'll write that down for later i think, thanks.. |
| 00:48.12 | sussudio | diGital`aNarchY: it took you long enough to come up with a reply, you dimwit. |
| 00:48.16 | dho | um install hmm |
| 00:48.20 | dho | woops |
| 00:48.24 | dho | things left in buffer |
| 00:48.27 | diGital`aNarchY | sussudio: i was in the shower you smelly vagrant |
| 00:48.28 | dho | meant to say hmm |
| 00:48.35 | dho | well i gotta go empty the dishwasher :( |
| 00:48.36 | dho | brb |
| 00:48.56 | sussudio | diGital`aNarchY: sure you were, 31337-boi. |
| 00:49.02 | freakazoid | dho: having to completely recompile your kernel for a single patched module seems overkill, but I don't know how to only compile a single module (or even all modules) for a prepackaged kernel image and, say, just overwrite the file in that image |
| 00:49.04 | caphuso | sussudio, diGital`aNarchY: stop it |
| 00:49.10 | diGital`aNarchY | heh ok boss |
| 00:49.40 | vangel | hi , i have a pb with my debian, i can't get my resolution up to 1024 |
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| 00:50.50 | vangel | with a geforce4mx .. can someone help me |
| 00:50.50 | Mage | xf86config |
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| 00:50.50 | freakazoid | how about dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86? |
| 00:50.50 | freakazoid | (on sid) |
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| 00:50.50 | vangel | i do that |
| 00:50.50 | vangel | but on woody |
| 00:50.54 | freakazoid | !tell vangel about nvidia |
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| 00:51.01 | jmedina | vangel, are you using the correct driver in you XF86Config-4???? |
| 00:51.15 | mateusz | Hi Where I can get Conntrack module for Gadu gadu file transfer ?? |
| 00:51.15 | vangel | thanks freaka |
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| 00:51.30 | vangel | jmedia i use the official nvidia driver |
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| 00:51.47 | jmedina | ahh, |
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| 00:52.01 | Mage | vangel: you have to use xfree 4.x with official nvidia driver |
| 00:52.12 | Mage | in woody it's still xfree 3.x I think |
| 00:52.13 | thepiper | i just installed debian and sound doesnt work.. /dev/dsp is writable and emu10k1 is loaded... is there additional configuration that I need to do??? |
| 00:52.21 | vangel | ok |
| 00:52.23 | mateusz | Is there a H.323 , Quake3 conntrack module for kernel 2.6.x ?? |
| 00:52.28 | helix | thepiper: add yourself to the audio group |
| 00:52.32 | Mage | vangel: switch to testing or unstablr |
| 00:52.34 | vangel | how can i see my xfree version |
| 00:52.35 | thepiper | helix: did that too |
| 00:52.43 | Mage | X --version |
| 00:52.46 | vangel | thx |
| 00:52.50 | thepiper | xmms plays but no sound...... |
| 00:52.53 | helix | thepiper: does cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp make any noise? |
| 00:53.00 | jmedina | Mage, woody have xfree 4.1.x |
| 00:53.05 | thepiper | helix: no |
| 00:53.13 | Mage | okay |
| 00:53.16 | mateusz | ?? |
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| 00:53.24 | nk_ | hm... how do i 'contact' a user on the system that appears with 'who'? only know talk from former times... |
| 00:53.24 | helix | thepiper: start xmms from command line and try to play something - it should give you errors |
| 00:53.42 | freakazoid | nk_: use the write command |
| 00:53.45 | Blissex | nk_: use 'write'. |
| 00:53.46 | thepiper | helix: no error |
| 00:53.53 | Mage | ~+version x-window-system |
| 00:53.58 | freakazoid | thepiper: does *any* sound work? |
| 00:54.00 | thepiper | helix: mpg123 works also but no sound |
| 00:54.00 | helix | thepiper: are your speakers plugged in? |
| 00:54.03 | Mage | ~x-window-system woody |
| 00:54.08 | thepiper | helix: yes speakers are plugged in |
| 00:54.09 | Mage | mmh |
| 00:54.10 | helix | thepiper: hm. check the perms on /dev/mixer maybe |
| 00:54.17 | helix | thepiper: then mess with the volume levels.. |
| 00:54.26 | thepiper | /dev/mixer 666 |
| 00:54.36 | Mage | this is bad. |
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| 00:54.46 | RichiH | hmm, what program would oyu use to find a file of at least n bytes? find only searches for exact matches, not for "at least n bytes", unfortunately |
| 00:54.49 | Brutus | !start an editor war |
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| 00:54.49 | dpkg | edlin users can't think straight |
| 00:54.50 | thepiper | err... mixer0 660 |
| 00:54.56 | d_beauchesne | My ADSL connection is not working. Ive followed the README.debian for pppoe exactly as it says, and I have an IP address assigned, I can resolve and send pings, but I cannot receive them. The readme said it may be because I more than one gateway, but I only have one :( |
| 00:54.56 | Mage | this is better. |
| 00:54.58 | bob2_nothome | !scratch helix |
| 00:55.05 | bob2_nothome | RichiH: find -size +400 |
| 00:55.05 | Mage | ~/dev/dsp |
| 00:55.08 | | extra, extra, read all about it, /dev/dsp is created by the /etc/init.d/devfs script which is run at startup |
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| 00:55.09 | caphuso | RichiH: find -size +100 |
| 00:55.14 | helix | :))))) |
| 00:55.16 | helix | !spank bob2_nothome |
| 00:55.33 | RichiH | juat a leasding plus? the man age should mention that... i will write the guy an email |
| 00:55.33 | freakazoid | d_beauchesne: you mean you can ping things in the outside world, but things in the outside world can't ping you? |
| 00:55.34 | thepiper | helix: if i switch xmms to use alsa then i get errors... does the stock kernel come with oss or alsa??? |
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| 00:55.45 | helix | thepiper: oss.. i'm not sure about alsa |
| 00:55.50 | freakazoid | thepiper: stock 2.4 is oss |
| 00:55.57 | RichiH | bob2_nothome, caphuso: thanks :) |
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| 00:56.01 | caphuso | RichiH: it's a GNU utility, which means the man page is useless |
| 00:56.11 | d_beauchesne | freakazoid: I believe so, yes. I can see the pings going through the adsl modem because the lights flash. none return though |
| 00:56.16 | caphuso | the texinfo docs are the way to go |
| 00:56.21 | Blissex | d_beauchesne: it may just be your fireall. If you can resolve, that means that both sending out packets and getting them back works. |
| 00:56.23 | cappicard | boy... 2.6.1-mm2 is fubared... I go from getting kernel oops in the WP bit detection routine in 2.6.1 to getting kernel oops when attempting to use insmod in -mm2... |
| 00:56.27 | cappicard | this is before control transfers from initrd to the actual root |
| 00:56.28 | thepiper | lspci -v correctly identifies audio controller |
| 00:56.29 | cappicard | anyone notice that problem? |
| 00:56.29 | RichiH | caphuso: true. should of thought of that |
| 00:56.36 | nk_ | freakazoid, Blissex: nice, works well thx! |
| 00:56.37 | thepiper | dmesg shows it detected as well |
| 00:56.38 | freakazoid | thepiper: try running gmix or some other mixer app and see if it works and lets you adjust volume.. it's possible /dev/dsp0 is not the device you think it is |
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| 00:56.46 | d_beauchesne | blissex: I have no firewall |
| 00:56.50 | mistresslyna | Hello everybody... I need to ask a question. I am trying to install debian woody in a machine with Windows XP but the installation program dont detect my hard drive... |
| 00:57.05 | mistresslyna | what shall i do? |
| 00:57.06 | thepiper | freakazoid: what package is gmix in?? |
| 00:57.15 | freakazoid | d_beauchesne: it's not necessarily pings. it could be ARPs |
| 00:57.19 | Blissex | d_beauchesne: no firewall is bad news :-). But your box may be doing NAT or some such thing... |
| 00:57.35 | Blissex | d_beauchesne: can you connect to anything or is it just pings? |
| 00:57.40 | sussudio | !tell Chromakode about away |
| 00:58.07 | freakazoid | thepiper: sorry, you want gnome-mixer, which I believe is in the gnome-media package |
| 00:58.13 | helix | mistresslyna: let me guess.. the entire winxp partition is ntfs? |
| 00:58.15 | d_beauchesne | blissex: not sure... ill try. what should i try? |
| 00:58.28 | Blissex | d_beauchesne: try for example 'telnet irc.freenode.net 6667' |
| 00:58.32 | d_beauchesne | freakzoid: im not sure what that means... |
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| 00:58.37 | dho | hmm |
| 00:58.44 | emitchlpd | is make-kpkg working for 2.6.x? |
| 00:58.49 | freakazoid | mistresslyna: Timo's Rescue CD has ntfsresize on it, so you can resize your ntfs partition with it |
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| 00:59.02 | helix | scary |
| 00:59.04 | freakazoid | mistresslyna: I can't guarantee it won't blow up your computer thogh |
| 00:59.07 | d_beauchesne | ahhh crap I have to disconnect this computer to try that one. ftping doesnt work, I tried that before. |
| 00:59.08 | thepiper | freakazoid: do you know of any kde mixers (so that I dont have to get 100 packages for gmix)??? |
| 00:59.16 | helix | mistresslyna: better to use something like partition magic :) |
| 00:59.29 | mistresslyna | no, its FAT32 not ntfs |
| 00:59.43 | d_beauchesne | blissex: what is NAT, though? |
| 00:59.46 | helix | it should be detected then |
| 00:59.47 | freakazoid | thepiper: even better, a curses mixer: rexima |
| 01:00.03 | helix | d_beauchesne: network address translation |
| 01:00.11 | freakazoid | mistresslyna: what exactly do you mean by "doesn't detect your hard drive" |
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| 01:00.25 | freakazoid | thepiper: but if you use KDE I'm not helping you any more :) |
| 01:00.29 | freakazoid | !start a desktop war |
| 01:00.29 | dpkg | Don't be silly, console is the best. |
| 01:00.30 | Blissex | d_beauchesne: its' some weird sort of address changing sw that helps and_ interferes with sessions. I suspect that it does not work with ICMP packets on your router/whatever. |
| 01:00.42 | thepiper | freakazoid: rexima shows full folume levels |
| 01:00.58 | Blissex | thepiper: lots of KDE mixers. 'kmixer'? |
| 01:01.12 | d_beauchesne | Blissex: the computer is connected directly to the modem, no router or hub |
| 01:01.33 | d_beauchesne | could this be a kernel problem? any way I could check? |
| 01:01.38 | freakazoid | thepiper: can you make sound come out your speakers with anything, including windows? |
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| 01:01.42 | mistresslyna | i mean that after it tries to discover my network adapter it does not allow me to do anything with the disk |
| 01:01.46 | Blissex | d_beauchesne: depends what the ``modem'' is... if it does NAT it's not just a modem. |
| 01:01.53 | freakazoid | d_beauchesne: you can look at dmesg and see if the sound driver loaded for your sound card |
| 01:02.03 | helix | er |
| 01:02.03 | freakazoid | d_beauchesne: and check lsmod for the right module... what sound card is it? |
| 01:02.10 | freakazoid | err |
| 01:02.13 | freakazoid | that was for thepiper |
| 01:02.14 | thepiper | freakazoid: sound works in windows |
| 01:02.15 | Blissex | d_beauchesne: you can try 'tcpdump -i eth0 -n' or somethin similar to see if you see any packets coming in. |
| 01:02.24 | d_beauchesne | freakazoid: :) |
| 01:02.33 | thepiper | and works under freebsd |
| 01:02.39 | mistresslyna | it says that i dont have a hard drive and asks for a disquette |
| 01:02.40 | freakazoid | thepiper: what sound card is it? |
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| 01:02.44 | thepiper | lsmod shows emu10kl loaded |
| 01:02.48 | thepiper | soundblaster live |
| 01:02.49 | freakazoid | OH! Freebsd probably broke it! |
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| 01:03.04 | freakazoid | !start an os war |
| 01:03.04 | dpkg | DOS is better than Debian! Amiga Rocks! |
| 01:03.06 | thepiper | 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07) |
| 01:03.08 | luca__ | i can't understand what is the difference between firebirdss and firebirdcs? any idea? |
| 01:03.16 | d_beauchesne | Blissex: I dont have blissex :( Ill have to burn it to a CD or something. |
| 01:03.18 | Blissex | FreeBSD has been known to cause cancer in laboratory rats... |
| 01:03.21 | d_beauchesne | er, tcpdump, heh |
| 01:03.34 | d_beauchesne | I do have blissex however |
| 01:03.44 | freakazoid | luca__: I'm guessing firebirdcs is classic and firebirdss is super |
| 01:03.51 | mistresslyna | can anyone help, please? |
| 01:03.53 | freakazoid | luca__: you're talking about the database right? |
| 01:03.55 | luca__ | hahh |
| 01:03.58 | g4lt | freakazoid yeah, it's MANY more times likely to be software than over/undervoltage or any other of the millions of physical things that can go wrong with it... |
| 01:04.03 | Blissex | d_beauchesne: well, 'tcpdump' is pretty useful... |
| 01:04.03 | luca__ | freakazoid, right |
| 01:04.15 | Blissex | d_beauchesne: also, if you have tow computers there, they should be on Ethernet. |
| 01:04.18 | freakazoid | mistresslyna: you don't have "partition a hard drive" anywhere on the list of options? It won't just be under the main or alternate |
| 01:04.44 | dho | freakazoid i am confused about what kp is |
| 01:04.54 | luca__ | freakazoid, hrm..is it true? "s" stands for super aand "c" for classic?? |
| 01:05.09 | freakazoid | luca__: I am not sure, but probably |
| 01:05.11 | dho | moelike how to get it and use it for my situation |
| 01:05.15 | d_beauchesne | Blissex: Ok Ill get it. do you think this could be a kernel problem at all? |
| 01:05.20 | luca__ | oh my god |
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| 01:05.26 | freakazoid | dho: the dpkg message didn't tell you? |
| 01:05.28 | luca__ | and this is a serious dbms? |
| 01:05.31 | luca__ | eheh |
| 01:05.33 | dho | it tried |
| 01:05.39 | d_beauchesne | the strange thing is, plog gives me no error messages so it should work :P |
| 01:05.39 | dho | i am still confused though |
| 01:05.45 | freakazoid | luca__: I believe it is... it's based on teh InterBase 6.0 codebase |
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| 01:06.16 | lancey | anyone using PRO/1000 MT on-board with Debian? |
| 01:06.20 | freakazoid | d_beauchesne: heh heh that's what you think |
| 01:06.40 | mistresslyna | you don't have "partition a hard drive" anywhere on the list of options? It won't just be under the main or alternate |
| 01:06.41 | d_beauchesne | freakazoid: :) any ideas at all? I do appreciate the help |
| 01:06.45 | freakazoid | d_beauchesne: can you even ping your default gateway? and is the correct default gateway in your route list? |
| 01:06.57 | mistresslyna | i have that option, but when i click it says i dont have any hard drive |
| 01:07.07 | freakazoid | mistresslyna: It says you don't have a hard drive at all? |
| 01:07.13 | d_beauchesne | freakazoid: yes I can ping my gateway. Im not sure if it is the correct one |
| 01:07.13 | mistresslyna | yes |
| 01:07.22 | Vyrus001 | has anybody ever seen "pxe-e61:media test failure check cable" on a laptop before |
| 01:07.22 | cafuego | mistresslyna: Do you have a scsi system or an sata system? |
| 01:07.23 | sussudio | !tell lancey about ask |
| 01:07.29 | freakazoid | d_beauchesne: what is it set to? |
| 01:07.59 | mistresslyna | nope, dont have any of that |
| 01:08.06 | cafuego | Vyrus001: No, but I would check the cable if I received that message. |
| 01:08.09 | g4lt | Vyrus001 is your ethernet plugged in? |
| 01:08.10 | d_beauchesne | freakazoid: Id have to unplug to tell you. what should it look like? |
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| 01:08.22 | Vyrus001 | g4lt: no |
| 01:08.23 | freakazoid | it should be an IP address |
| 01:08.27 | d_beauchesne | yep, it was. |
| 01:08.27 | Vyrus001 | cafuego: i did |
| 01:08.31 | cafuego | mistresslyna: hit alt-F2; then return and type 'cat /proc/pci | grep -i ide' int hat shell. |
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| 01:08.45 | freakazoid | d_beauchesne: just run /sbin/route on that machine |
| 01:08.50 | Vyrus001 | cafuego: g4lt if i reboot the comp enough it boots fine... |
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| 01:09.06 | g4lt | Vyrus001 that's why you have the pxe error. pxe booting is netboot... |
| 01:09.20 | thepiper | freakaziod: figured it out... |
| 01:09.24 | cafuego | Vyrus001: Disable netbooting in the bios. |
| 01:09.30 | freakazoid | thepiper: woo! what was it? |
| 01:09.37 | thepiper | the motherboard has a crappy onboard sound card that I didnt know about... :( |
| 01:09.37 | Vyrus001 | i cant |
| 01:09.45 | Vyrus001 | i can only put it last |
| 01:09.46 | cafuego | can't? |
| 01:09.54 | thepiper | and it was defaulting to the onboard sound instead of the sblive |
| 01:09.56 | freakazoid | thepiper: Aah! So that was /dev/dsp0 |
| 01:10.03 | thepiper | yah.... :( hehe |
| 01:10.10 | cafuego | thepiper: go into the bios, disable the on-board sound |
| 01:10.11 | thepiper | is there anyway to change the default sound card??? |
| 01:10.17 | d_beauchesne | freakzoid: destination: 10.30.128.0 gateway: *, next line: destination: default, gateway: 10.30.128.254 |
| 01:10.28 | thepiper | i don't know that there is a bios option to remove the sound card |
| 01:10.40 | Blissex | thepiper: which one becomes '0' depends on the order of loading of the modules. |
| 01:10.40 | freakazoid | thepiper: You can either keep that driver from loading by blacklisting it in discover or disable it in bios or just change the symlinks for /dev/dsp, /dev/mixer, etc to /dev/dsp1, etc |
| 01:10.44 | cafuego | thepiper: if you have a decent bios there will be |
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| 01:11.10 | thepiper | are the symlinks to /dev/dsp created on boot??? |
| 01:11.10 | freakazoid | d_beauchesne: Your ISP gave you RFC1918 addresses? |
| 01:11.16 | cafuego | freakazoid: /dev/dsp is *not* a symlink. |
| 01:11.28 | d_beauchesne | freakazoid: I dunno? :) |
| 01:11.30 | freakazoid | cafuego: Really? It is on my machine |
| 01:11.31 | Vyrus001 | cafuego: g4lt for some reason i cant boot from any drive... if i let my laptop sit in a corner for like an hour eventualy it will work |
| 01:11.39 | cafuego | freakazoid: It shouldn't be. |
| 01:11.39 | freakazoid | d_beauchesne: where did you get those IPs? |
| 01:11.43 | sussudio | freakazoid: probably a tunnel. |
| 01:11.48 | cafuego | freakazoid: You're probably usinf devfs, which is even worse. |
| 01:11.54 | d_beauchesne | freakzoid: that was the result of typing route |
| 01:12.17 | freakazoid | cafuego: I'm not using devfs, and my /dev/dsp has always been a symlink to /dev/dsp0 |
| 01:12.18 | cafuego | Vyrus001: Did you make your harddisk bootable? |
| 01:12.29 | Vyrus001 | yes |
| 01:12.39 | Vyrus001 | like i said... it boots if i leave it alone |
| 01:12.47 | freakazoid | d_beauchesne: Hrrm, well, I don't know that much about PPPOE, so I can only break things from here |
| 01:12.53 | cafuego | freakazoid: Not on a normal debian box it ain't. it's a device file, root.audio, c 14, 3 |
| 01:13.13 | helix | sussudio: i did things the lazy way and reinstalled. works now, but thanks for trying to help |
| 01:13.13 | d_beauchesne | freakazoid: any idea what the problem might be so I can start googling? :) |
| 01:13.17 | cafuego | Vyrus001: Did you move netboot to the bottom of the bootlist? |
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| 01:13.27 | Vyrus001 | yes |
| 01:13.35 | freakazoid | cafuego: Not even on SID? on both my SID boxes it's a symlink |
| 01:13.42 | cafuego | Vyrus001: And it still complains about pxe-.. ? |
| 01:13.47 | louis- | I'm trying to install debian off of a zip disk.. how would I go about doing this? |
| 01:13.56 | louis- | (booting the installer via floppy) |
| 01:14.00 | cafuego | freakazoid: Ah yes, on sid it is. |
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| 01:14.15 | Vyrus001 | cafuego: bacicly it dosent boot of any device the pxe i think is a last resort |
| 01:14.20 | freakazoid | d_beauchesne: You probably want to be debugging with pppd |
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| 01:14.36 | d_beauchesne | freakazoid: Ok, sounds good. thanks a ton for the help |
| 01:14.37 | freakazoid | cafuego: Sorry, I guess it's been too long since I've used sound on Woody |
| 01:14.41 | cafuego | Vyrus001: Then the harddisk's boot record is broken. Boot off a rescue disk, reinstall lilo. |
| 01:14.53 | freakazoid | d_beauchesne: Look at the debug and kdebug options for pppd |
| 01:14.56 | sussudio | helix: k |
| 01:14.56 | cafuego | freakazoid: <heh> My mistake... only checked the sarge box here. |
| 01:15.00 | Vyrus001 | cafuego: i use grub... |
| 01:15.10 | cafuego | Vyrus001: boot off a rescue disk, reinstall grub |
| 01:15.16 | freakazoid | cafuego: np, it's good info though that it's not always a symlink, I had assumed it was |
| 01:15.16 | louis- | argh, nm, I found it :P |
| 01:15.18 | d_beauchesne | freakazoid: will do. thanks again dude |
| 01:15.21 | Vyrus001 | cafuego: and acordint to it it should be ok cus like i said... if i leave it alone it boots |
| 01:15.37 | cafuego | freakazoid: I think they may have changed it for sid re 2.6 kernels and the use of alsa. |
| 01:15.40 | Vyrus001 | cafuego: but right now offialy it wont boot of hd or cdrom |
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| 01:15.46 | RichiH | night |
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| 01:16.16 | cafuego | RichiH: where? |
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| 01:17.36 | jono | does scp have a switch where it will only copied changed files to the location? |
| 01:18.15 | The_Vulture | jono: rsync or similar would probably be more appropriate |
| 01:19.03 | JimButton | jono: rsync -e ssh is better anyway |
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| 01:19.18 | jono | The_Vulture: I see thanks |
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| 01:20.24 | giros2 | Is it bad to have the same password for your normal user account and the root account? |
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| 01:21.00 | The_Vulture | giros2: sorta kinda |
| 01:21.13 | giros2 | The_Vulture: can u explain |
| 01:21.44 | The_Vulture | well it's just less secure really, but it only makes a difference if one of your passwords was compromised |
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| 01:22.11 | The_Vulture | even if someone got the privelidges of your user, it wouldn't be any easier for them to get root because you had the same password |
| 01:23.04 | giros2 | what about if you have the same and one password for everything, mail, im, accounts, system, et |
| 01:23.16 | jono | JimButton: does rsync -r ssh encrypt the rsync? |
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| 01:23.58 | JimButton | jono: rsync -e ssh |
| 01:24.13 | thiccups | jono: yes |
| 01:24.14 | JimButton | jono: yes, it does, and for more options look into the manpage, it is actually quite good |
| 01:24.21 | jono | cool |
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| 01:24.32 | jono | to use scp, does the receiving host need sshd to be running? |
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| 01:24.36 | giros2 | infest |
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| 01:24.46 | giros2 | what does infest mean? |
| 01:24.46 | The_Vulture | jono: yes |
| 01:24.51 | jono | right, thanks |
| 01:24.52 | The_Vulture | gotta connect to something |
| 01:24.57 | The_Vulture | giros2: use a dictionary |
| 01:25.08 | giros2 | The_Vulture: thanks |
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| 01:26.06 | dho | freakazoid: was running "make bzImage" the correct step? |
| 01:26.37 | LSorensen | dho: make-kpkg is nicer on Debian :) |
| 01:27.18 | dho | ok |
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| 01:27.29 | dho | well to late now i believe |
| 01:27.57 | stew | dho: /msg dpkg kp ; /msg dpkg make-kpkg |
| 01:28.00 | dho | once i finish running make bzImage where do i find and place the image? im on ppc hardwar |
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| 01:28.32 | caphuso | dho: run "make install" |
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| 01:28.57 | dho | do i kill make bzImage? |
| 01:29.01 | dho | still going |
| 01:29.07 | caphuso | dho: no |
| 01:29.18 | dho | make install anyway? |
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| 01:29.45 | LSorensen | dho: make-kpkg is the nice easy debian way of building, installing, and maintaining kernels. |
| 01:29.54 | LSorensen | dho: make install is the WORST way you can install a kernel |
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| 01:30.00 | dho | ok |
| 01:30.17 | LSorensen | dho: manually copying beats the insane make install option |
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| 01:30.19 | simonrvn | dho: make bzImage won't work on PPC |
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| 01:30.38 | LSorensen | dho: make-kpkg takes a lot of little annoying details out of the way for you |
| 01:30.39 | simonrvn | it's a fake target |
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| 01:31.02 | dho | ok |
| 01:31.13 | dho | so may i kill make bzImage or is that bad? |
| 01:31.40 | LSorensen | dho: you can kill it |
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| 01:31.40 | LSorensen | dho: it won't mind |
| 01:31.48 | dho | :) |
| 01:31.56 | stew | dho sure, killit, then do make-kpkg, sit back, then when its done, it will have created /usr/src/kernel-image.blahblah.deb which you can dpkg -i |
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| 01:32.47 | dho | cool |
| 01:32.58 | debian | !hug helix |
| 01:33.08 | dho | make: *** No rule to make target `kpkg'. Stop. |
| 01:33.13 | dho | have to config furst? |
| 01:33.22 | jono | do I need anything running on the receiving machine to use rsync? e.g. an rsync daemon ? |
| 01:33.27 | Biff | grrr, first time in months i need something not in apt, the cvs-server on sf.net is bugging :-| |
| 01:33.31 | debian | dho: no space between make and -kpkg. :) |
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| 01:33.40 | caphuso | dho: make-kpkg != make kpkg |
| 01:33.47 | dho | thatl do it |
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| 01:34.01 | Biff | has anyone managed to get a hold of linux-igd source from cvs? |
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| 01:34.07 | LSorensen | !make-kpkg |
| 01:34.07 | dpkg | well, make-kpkg is the Debian Way (tm) to deal with kernel compiling - it makes a package for your Kustom Kernel (tm) which you can install/remove easily (tm) with the dpkg (pat. pend.) mechanisms. 'apt-get install kernel-package' then 'man make-kpkg' =), or see also http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html, or cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make dep && fakeroot make-kpkg clean kernel_headers kernel_image && cd /usr/src && su -c "dpkg -i *.deb" |
| 01:34.10 | jono | anyone? |
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| 01:34.38 | dho | arg gotta install it |
| 01:34.41 | dho | bash: make-kpkg: command not found |
| 01:34.53 | LSorensen | jono: of you do rsync over rsh(don't) or ssh, then the other end just needs rsync installed |
| 01:34.58 | chris_bloke | hello folks |
| 01:35.00 | LSorensen | dho: apt-get install kernel-package |
| 01:35.04 | LSorensen | dho: see above |
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| 01:35.37 | simonrvn | wtf added that 'Kustom Kernel (tm)' and other (tm) stuff to that? |
| 01:35.47 | simonrvn | !factinfo make-kpkg |
| 01:35.48 | dpkg | make-kpkg -- last modified at Fri Dec 28 15:19:48 2001 by tko!tk@jt5-223b.tky.hut.fi; it has been requested 190 times, last by LSorensen, 1m 40s ago. |
| 01:35.59 | jono | LSorensen: so if I use ssh for rsync, I need sshd and rsync, if I just use rsync, I dont need anything on the machine - is that right? |
| 01:36.11 | chris_bloke | newbie installer question coming up |
| 01:36.31 | LSorensen | jono: there is no 'just rsync' you use rsync + rsh or rsync + ssh or some other 8bit clean shell login |
| 01:36.36 | barretj | i've got two network cards in my pc, both use the '8139too' driver module, when i boot debian using kernel 2.2.20 the first network card is set up as eth0, when i boot using kernel 2.4.24 the second network card is set up as eth0 |
| 01:36.47 | debian | lol@chris_bloke |
| 01:36.47 | sussudio | yay for SendQ exceeded. |
| 01:36.53 | dho | alright make-kpkg is running |
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| 01:36.54 | jono | LSorensen: oh sorry, I see |
| 01:36.57 | barretj | how do i configure it so 2.4.24 will set up the first nic as eth0 |
| 01:36.57 | barretj | ? |
| 01:37.11 | dho | once it finishes how is it that i install it to my hd? i am on a ppc by the way |
| 01:37.12 | LSorensen | jono: so you want ssh running and rsync on both machines |
| 01:37.25 | LSorensen | dho: it said in dpkg's comment above |
| 01:37.33 | dho | oh ok |
| 01:37.34 | ljlane | barretj, "man 8 nameif" |
| 01:37.51 | barretj | ljlane: thanks |
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| 01:38.32 | sussudio | !tell Chromakode about away |
| 01:38.47 | chris_bloke | trying to install Woody for the first time, on an IBM x345 (dual P4 Xeon, LSI SCSI, Qlogic FC, dual Intel E1000 interfaces) and I was suprised that the installer doesn't support the SCSI interfaces |
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| 01:39.41 | dho | i need to do the cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make dep && fakeroot make-kpkg clean kernel_headers kernel_image && cd /usr/src && su -c "dpkg -i *.deb" part right? |
| 01:40.05 | chris_bloke | is there a patched installer for this ? |
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| 01:41.10 | dho | LSorensen: was that the correct command to run after running make-kpkg ? |
| 01:41.18 | dho | commands morelike |
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| 01:43.35 | simonrvn | dho: no. read man make-kpkg first. but, you can run fakeroot make-kpkg --config=menuconfig binary-arch (binary-arch == kernel-image kernel-headers) for example |
| 01:44.17 | simonrvn | chris_bloke: that's new h/w isn't it? if it is, then i'd try the newer installer, from sarge |
| 01:44.29 | simonrvn | chris_bloke: called d-i or debian-installer |
| 01:44.57 | barretj | how can i get the mac address of a nic which does not currently have a module associated with it? |
| 01:45.17 | simonrvn | mii-tool maybe? |
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| 01:45.42 | simonrvn | i usually just load the module, set up a temp ifconfig entry, and get it from there |
| 01:45.54 | dho | simonrvn your example confused me |
| 01:46.16 | simonrvn | dho: read the man page, it won't then |
| 01:46.23 | dho | ok |
| 01:46.40 | owner | i was using firebird like usual and i think i pressed a shortcut w/out realizing .. anywasy .. now whenever i type it tries to search for the word in the file .. and i can't click in the location toolbar to go to a diff page ? |
| 01:47.11 | simonrvn | owner: parse error. could you re-phrase that? |
| 01:47.28 | helix | heh |
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| 01:47.34 | helix | "dunno what the heck you're talking about" |
| 01:47.44 | caphuso | simonrvn: he discovered the find-as-you-type feature |
| 01:47.50 | simonrvn | ah |
| 01:47.56 | simonrvn | / and type |
| 01:47.58 | helix | annoying feature |
| 01:48.03 | caphuso | good feature |
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| 01:48.11 | helix | i haven't found a use for it yet |
| 01:48.15 | simonrvn | i like it, though can get in the way occasionally |
| 01:48.15 | dho | still a bit confused simonrvn |
| 01:48.18 | owner | yeah . .but i can't get out . .even if i click at the toolbar |
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| 01:48.36 | dho | so i run it, turns it into a deb package with i then dpkg -i? |
| 01:48.40 | caphuso | owner: hit esc |
| 01:48.52 | simonrvn | dho: type / then type binary-arch, then type <return> |
| 01:49.03 | helix | dho: yes |
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| 01:49.05 | simonrvn | dho: while you're still in the man pager |
| 01:49.08 | dho | lol |
| 01:49.23 | owner | caphuso, nice ... hmm how did i get in anyway ? |
| 01:49.33 | caphuso | owner: by hitting / or ' |
| 01:49.51 | caphuso | depending on if you want to search the complete text or just links |
| 01:49.54 | simonrvn | or wait 5-10 sec |
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| 01:50.40 | dho | simonrvn it wasnt found |
| 01:50.52 | dho | i am on ppc if that helps |
| 01:51.01 | simonrvn | dho: then look differently. i'm not going to hold your hand |
| 01:51.23 | simonrvn | dho: doesn't matter if you were on alpha, the search feature in less works the same |
| 01:51.42 | dho | alright |
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| 01:52.07 | simonrvn | please use the grey matter in your head... |
| 01:52.16 | sussudio | silly putty? |
| 01:52.25 | dho | seriosly dont be rude im new to this |
| 01:52.29 | helix | sussudio: at least silly putty has some memory.. |
| 01:52.32 | dho | i apreciate your help and all |
| 01:52.33 | agentace | anyone: I have two nics in a box running debian 3.0r1 with kernel 2.2.20, they use the 3c59x module...whenever I bring up both interfaces, they refuse to send or receive packets...yet independently they work fine...any ideas? this makes no sense to me :P |
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| 01:52.42 | dho | but dont be an ass |
| 01:52.46 | owner | i just did an adduser .. how do i know how much space is set for a new user ? or any useur for that purpose .. or is there no quota set ? |
| 01:53.01 | s003apr | anybody have experience setting up IRDA? |
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| 01:53.08 | caphuso | owner: did you set a quota? |
| 01:53.08 | indes | agentace: bother interfaces grabbing the same instance of the driver? |
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| 01:53.11 | The_Vulture | owner: unless you are using quota, there is no quota.. |
| 01:53.25 | simonrvn | dho: it's frustrating when someone doesn't use the resources that they have, if they just applied some sense to it. it's nothing personal |
| 01:53.30 | agentace | indes: how would I check that? |
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| 01:53.38 | sussudio | agentace: do you have an eth1 defined in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 01:53.41 | indes | agentace: is it compiled into the kernel or as a module? |
| 01:53.50 | agentace | sussudio: yes I do |
| 01:53.57 | agentace | indes: a module |
| 01:54.22 | indes | not sure if lsmod will tell you anything or not |
| 01:54.25 | sussudio | agentace: pci? |
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| 01:54.44 | agentace | sussudio: yes, I've tried moving them between pci slots, still nothing |
| 01:54.48 | agentace | indes: I'll try |
| 01:55.03 | sussudio | agentace: are you sure they're not conflicting somehow? |
| 01:55.06 | simonrvn | dho: hitting n will show you the next entry that's currently in the search buffer, so e.g., if you type /binary in less, it will show you the first instance. pressing n will show you the next one. press h for the help |
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| 01:55.27 | agentace | sussudio: they're using different IRQs and have differing base addresses |
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| 01:56.20 | agentace | indes: no, lsmod doesn't say much :P just pcmcia_core and af_packet |
| 01:56.32 | ericP | why "Package graphviz has no available version, but exists in the database." and what do i do about it? |
| 01:56.36 | sussudio | agentace: you could try specifically assigning them an interface in lilo.conf |
| 01:56.46 | ericP | (short of giving up on having graphviz) |
| 01:56.55 | thomas_adam | ericP: specify the correct name. You're probably trying to install a dummy package. |
| 01:56.56 | ericP | (testing, i86) |
| 01:56.59 | wsnsinc | How does one go about (in a cron job) kicking someone off and locking them out of the console for 4 hours??? |
| 01:57.00 | caphuso | ericP: add non-free to your sources.list |
| 01:57.03 | thomas_adam | ericP: apt-cache search |
| 01:57.04 | indes | agentace: are they loaded? assign each an interface then try tobring up the drivers pointing at the interfaces |
| 01:57.16 | agentace | sussudio: hmm...ok |
| 01:57.30 | sussudio | agentace: like append="ether=10,0x300,eth0 ether=11,0x320,eth1" but with the right values |
| 01:57.30 | ericP | thomas_adam, thomas_adam, caphuso, non-free looks like it - tx |
| 01:57.44 | w0wie | when installing files from an install file were do i put the binarary files? |
| 01:57.55 | thomas_adam | w0wie: make install ? |
| 01:58.06 | agentace | sussudio: ok, I'll give that a try |
| 01:58.13 | thomas_adam | w0wie: but your question makes absolutely NO sense. |
| 01:58.17 | sussudio | w0wie: are you using debian? |
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| 01:58.31 | w0wie | i'm installing a program from a .pl filr |
| 01:58.36 | w0wie | *file |
| 01:58.37 | thomas_adam | perl#? |
| 01:58.42 | w0wie | yes perl |
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| 01:58.48 | agentace | indes: how would I do that? |
| 01:58.51 | wiz | I'm trying to use a logitech gamepad (usb) what /dev device would that be by default? |
| 01:58.54 | thomas_adam | w0wie: well, just run it.... |
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| 01:59.47 | Jesus | does anyone here know how I can reset the admin password? I'm a newbie to debian...and linux |
| 02:00.00 | agentace | heh, nice |
| 02:00.03 | indes | agentace: as sussudio declare them with lilo (try lilo.conf/man lilo) to load the modules check out etc/modules.conf or insmod (man insmod/man lsmod). I'm sure you know ifconfig/ifup/down |
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| 02:00.16 | agentace | alright |
| 02:00.29 | agentace | thanks indes and sussudio |
| 02:00.33 | debian | Jesus Christ. How the hell could you find the admin in Linux? |
| 02:00.51 | sussudio | debian: it's the bearded smelly guy in the dark corner |
| 02:00.53 | indes | agentace: np |
| 02:00.56 | agentace | find | grep *father*son*holy_ghost |
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| 02:01.09 | debian | sussudio: yuck |
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| 02:01.50 | sussudio | debian: or you could follow the trail of empty cola cans |
| 02:02.13 | gboutwel | I need some help from someone running a vanilla 2.6.1 w/initrd in debian. I'm having problems. |
| 02:02.21 | debian | sussudio: that's how I found you. Smelly bearded guy. ;) |
| 02:02.52 | caphuso | !tell gboutwel about ask |
| 02:03.07 | dho | simonrvn: all i really want to do is apply the orinico patches, is there an easier way then rebuildthing the whole kernel? |
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| 02:03.20 | dho | rebuilding* |
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| 02:04.33 | samlander | has anyone here upgraded to mysql 4.0 yet? |
| 02:04.37 | samlander | (with stable, not testing) |
| 02:05.37 | samlander | anyone at all? |
| 02:05.41 | samlander | it is critical i upgrade |
| 02:06.15 | gboutwel | I've got an vanilla 2.6.1 on debian SID, I've compiled it multiple times, it won't boot. I think it's cause of my VIA_PRO chipset, which can't be compiled into the kernel, so I need to make an initrd capable kernel, how? I'm using make-kpgk --initrd kernel_image. |
| 02:06.29 | LSorensen | samlander: upgrading stuff on stable tends to make it no longer be stable |
| 02:06.30 | g4lt | samlander how do you upgrade stble and change versions? |
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| 02:06.31 | debian | samlander: ifit's really critical you should have tested before upgrade the real one |
| 02:06.49 | LSorensen | gboutwel: does 2.6.0 debian build kernels work? |
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| 02:07.25 | gboutwel | LSorensen: Don't know haven't tried. |
| 02:07.26 | LSorensen | samlander: how can mysql of all things be critical |
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| 02:07.45 | helix | haha |
| 02:07.48 | LSorensen | gboutwel: I am runnig 2.6.0 debian kernel and it's working very well. miught be good just to see whether 2.6.0 can boot given the right options |
| 02:09.03 | Deathwind | I've tried getting the 2.6.0 kernel image to work, but for me it just says "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel."...followed by nothing happening |
| 02:09.16 | gboutwel | LSorensen> Possilby. I've got the 2.4.24-k6-1 kernel (didn't compiled, used the packaged one) fine. I used it's config to 'start' with when I did my 2.6.1 kernel, but I've, also, tried doing a config from 'stratch'. |
| 02:09.19 | LSorensen | Deathwind: your build or debian's build? |
| 02:09.31 | Deathwind | LSorensen: debian's |
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| 02:09.40 | LSorensen | gb: I wouldn;t start a 2.6 config from a 2.4 one. |
| 02:09.52 | LSorensen | Deathwind: hmm, odd. that part at least worked fine here |
| 02:10.02 | LSorensen | gboutwel: they are very different |
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| 02:10.14 | gboutwel | The major difference between the 2.4.24 that works and the 2.6.1 that doesn't is the initrd, and stuff abot VP_PRO, which is used to get an ide0(3,3) on 2.4.24, where unknown(3,3) failes on 2.6.1 |
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| 02:10.41 | danor | how mtch does a minimal install take of debian? |
| 02:10.49 | samlander | fine |
| 02:10.54 | LSorensen | gboutwel: is VIA_PRO a normal ide controller that is on the motherboard? |
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| 02:11.03 | samlander | i installed off a 150 mb minicd |
| 02:11.06 | LSorensen | danor: some 100MB or so I think |
| 02:11.22 | gboutwel | LSorensen> Yes. |
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| 02:11.31 | samlander | anybody know how to upgrade mysql 3 to 4 stable? |
| 02:11.36 | danor | ok, thanks |
| 02:11.40 | LSorensen | gboutwel: hmm, which cpu type? |
| 02:11.54 | LSorensen | samlander: given the version number went from 3.x to 4.x I doubt it's trivial |
| 02:11.58 | gboutwel | LSorensen> AMD-K2-400 |
| 02:12.00 | danor | I use this debian-30r1-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso |
| 02:12.00 | LSorensen | samlander: and why do you need 4.x? |
| 02:12.12 | Scognito | . |
| 02:12.17 | samlander | >LS an update select using boolean method |
| 02:12.45 | LSorensen | samlander: have you tried using a proper db instead? |
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| 02:13.52 | LSorensen | gboutwel: hmm, so best would probably be -386 from the debian builds. that's unfortunate. only k7, 686 and 386 are prebuilt |
| 02:13.52 | samlander | LS define proper db? |
| 02:13.59 | synic|home | samlander, yo can't just apt-get install mysql-server ? |
| 02:14.05 | LSorensen | samlander: something with a full SQL command sit, like say postgresql |
| 02:14.08 | samlander | >synic that is v3 not v4 |
| 02:14.17 | synic|home | samlander, I'm running version 4 |
| 02:14.26 | LSorensen | synic|home: on woody? |
| 02:14.33 | gboutwel | LSorensen: Have they added 2.6.1 kernel yet? Last I checked they still only had 2.6.0 |
| 02:14.34 | synic|home | ah. No. |
| 02:14.46 | LSorensen | gboutwel: no real difference between 2.6.0 and 2.6.1 as far as I can tell |
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| 02:14.49 | samlander | >synic your running testing (sarge right? |
| 02:14.52 | synic|home | sid |
| 02:15.00 | g4lt | ~stable |
| 02:15.03 | | hmm... stable is the status of a Debian release when no packages will be added or changed unless a security fix is needed, or sta-ble adj; uptime in excess of 365days, or where the horses live The current stable version of Debian is woody (3.0). |
| 02:15.15 | g4lt | samlander ^^^^^therein lies your answer |
| 02:15.19 | agentace | indes and sussudio: that didn't seem to work ;( |
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| 02:15.26 | agentace | <apt> ROOOOT has landed! |
| 02:15.35 | agentace | wtf |
| 02:15.38 | samlander | >g4lt mysql 4 is stable now |
| 02:15.42 | indes | when someone joins as root |
| 02:15.45 | indes | it says so |
| 02:15.46 | LSorensen | aga: means some goof ran irc as root |
| 02:15.46 | samlander | >g4 it just didnt make it into the woody distro |
| 02:15.51 | indes | ircing as root is bad |
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| 02:16.03 | LSorensen | samlander: and when did mysql4 become stable? |
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| 02:16.24 | synic|home | can you just use sid apt sources to upgrade one package like that? |
| 02:16.27 | danor | do I have to kompile smb support in the kernel? |
| 02:16.31 | agentace | LSorensen: I was wtf'ing why I had that copied, hehe |
| 02:16.35 | danor | smp |
| 02:16.42 | LSorensen | synic|home: it will need all the dependancies (often libc) |
| 02:16.53 | synic|home | ack |
| 02:16.58 | gboutwel | LSorensen: Perhaps. I have an patch that I'm applying that is for 2.6.1, not 2.6.0 |
| 02:17.01 | LSorensen | danor: do you have more than 1 cpu? |
| 02:17.12 | danor | ya |
| 02:17.15 | danor | 2 |
| 02:17.22 | LSorensen | gboutwel: I doubt there is enough difference for a patch to not apply |
| 02:17.29 | LSorensen | danor: well for more than one, you need SMP |
| 02:17.43 | agentace | indes or sussudio: any more ideas? :P everyone I know has run out |
| 02:17.47 | danor | yes, but I need to compile it manually? |
| 02:17.51 | indes | agentace: >? |
| 02:17.57 | indes | get a different kinda nic |
| 02:18.01 | indes | or use them one at a time |
| 02:18.03 | samlander | dunno... but if you goto their website, 4.0 is the new production release |
| 02:18.04 | LSorensen | danor: what cpu type? |
| 02:18.10 | gboutwel | LSorensen: Do you know if there are still problems with the Debian initrd CramFS, that requires an patch to the vanilla kernel? |
| 02:18.13 | samlander | SELECT * FROM qanda WHERE MATCH (quesiton,answer) AGAINST ('%s' IN BOOLEAN MODE) |
| 02:18.14 | danor | pentium pro 200 |
| 02:18.19 | samlander | thatis what im trying to do |
| 02:18.28 | synic|home | samlander, just because some package is stable doesn't mean that the .deb is considered stable |
| 02:18.30 | LSorensen | gboutwel: I believe it does, but supposedly real soon now 2.6 will have it standard |
| 02:18.41 | LSorensen | danor: then the debian -686-smp kernels should work |
| 02:18.59 | danor | do I got the right iso then? debian-30r1-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso |
| 02:19.08 | gboutwel | LSorensen: Do you know of a link to the patch, so I can try it against my 2.6.1, and maybe get it going? |
| 02:19.20 | LSorensen | danor: sure, you will have to install an smp kernel after installing |
| 02:19.21 | samlander | >synic I know that. |
| 02:19.36 | danor | ok, is that hard? |
| 02:19.38 | LSorensen | gboutwel: I haven't ever found the link, I just tend to start with kernel-source from debian and add patches to that |
| 02:19.59 | g4lt | samlander when you stop acting like one.... |
| 02:20.01 | synic|home | samlander, lol, sorry |
| 02:20.02 | LSorensen | samlander: did you check www.apt-get.org to see if anyone did a backport? |
| 02:20.16 | samlander | >LS no, thanks though, i will check there |
| 02:20.44 | gboutwel | LSorensen: How can I isolate or find the cramfs patch in the 2.6.0 debian sources, such that I could 'extract' it or apply it against the vanilla 2.6.1 I have? I have the 2.6.0 Debian sources. |
| 02:20.47 | LSorensen | samlander: I have backported a bunch of things myself over the last couple of years whenever I needed something newer |
| 02:20.55 | LSorensen | gboutwel: hmm, not sure. |
| 02:21.02 | LSorensen | what is the patch that requires 2.6.1? |
| 02:21.38 | Justin_ | gboutwel: use 2.4? |
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| 02:23.06 | samlander | LSorensen: is indeed been backported to woody on apt-get.org thankyou for your help |
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| 02:24.06 | gboutwel | LSorensen: SKAS3 for UMl. |
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| 02:25.11 | xai | Is there a good newsgroup to post spamers ? |
| 02:25.30 | xai | sorry.. wrong channel. |
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| 02:26.07 | LSorensen | gb: where do you get that? |
| 02:26.12 | helix | xai: /msg karsten spam |
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| 02:26.23 | helix | karsten: ;) |
| 02:26.32 | dscvlt | i can't get X to run on my nvidia geforce 4 card |
| 02:26.34 | samlander | its been awhile since i updated my apt sources again... /etc/apt.sources ? |
| 02:26.41 | dscvlt | does that driver not come with debian 3.0? |
| 02:26.42 | cafuego | or um, /query karsten; /exec/-o cat /proc/kcore ? ;-) |
| 02:26.51 | LSorensen | dscvlt: using which version of X? |
| 02:27.01 | ljlane | samlander, run apt-setup or edit /etc/apt/source.list |
| 02:27.03 | helix | dscvlt: you haven't googled have you? |
| 02:27.08 | helix | !tell dscvlt about nvidia |
| 02:27.09 | LSorensen | dscvlt: it doesn't even come with sid yet |
| 02:27.15 | LSorensen | dscvlt: unless you use the nvidia binary driver |
| 02:27.16 | samlander | >ljlane right :) thanks |
| 02:27.35 | efb | hi, i've installed apache, and it is running. If i put a png file in /var/www, i can access it. If i create a /var/www/images dir, and put the file inside this dir, i get a 404 when trying to access it. Is there anything that has to be enabled in httpd.conf? the permission of the dir is 755. |
| 02:28.06 | LSorensen | efb: did you ask it for /images/image.png? |
| 02:28.24 | Ro0tSiEgE | i didn't have a problem running a GF4MX under woody's stock X version and driver |
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| 02:28.33 | cafuego | dscvlt: next time, check driver availability before you buy a card. |
| 02:28.34 | efb | LSorensen i did wget http://localhost/images/image.png. |
| 02:28.48 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: really? |
| 02:28.52 | Ro0tSiEgE | LSorensen: yeah |
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| 02:28.58 | bztunk | Can anyone tell me the story behind libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1, and why freaking jbuilder needs it? |
| 02:29.04 | cafuego | LSorensen: svga/vga probably. |
| 02:29.07 | mantishands | petemc: still here? |
| 02:29.17 | LSorensen | efb: check the apache logs and see where it thought that went. note that images may already be setup as an alias in the default config |
| 02:29.18 | cafuego | bztunk: blame redhat |
| 02:29.24 | bztunk | cafuego: explain :D |
| 02:29.24 | Ro0tSiEgE | bztunk: only if you tell me why evolution depends on like 50 libs :) |
| 02:29.29 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: at anything over 800x600? |
| 02:29.35 | Ro0tSiEgE | LSorensen: 2048x2048 |
| 02:29.35 | g4lt | efb is the directory and image owned by www-data? |
| 02:29.41 | bztunk | Ro0tSiEgE: it's the circle of life |
| 02:29.45 | Ro0tSiEgE | heh |
| 02:29.46 | dscvlt | helix: apt-get didn't find nvidia-glx-src.. what server do i need in sources.list? |
| 02:29.57 | cafuego | bztunk: they have retarded library naming schemes and vendors who produce shit on redhat and thens ell it don't realise thweir product now depends on a lib with a retarded name. |
| 02:30.00 | helix | !tell dscvlt about nvidia debs |
| 02:30.06 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: hmm, I know the GF4 cards require 4.3 to work, not sure what the GF2 liek GF4MX cards require |
| 02:30.12 | efb | LSorensen you're right. i changed the dir name to abcdef and it worked :) |
| 02:30.15 | LSorensen | dscvlt: look for nvidia-kernel-source |
| 02:30.15 | mantishands | question: Having a problem putting wireless_* in /etc/network/interfaces and getting my wireless up and running. Can anybody help me out if I paste in the wireless section of the file? |
| 02:30.17 | Ro0tSiEgE | dscvlt: nvidia has an installer on their website that works just fine under debian |
| 02:30.43 | cafuego | ste here |
| 02:30.47 | Ro0tSiEgE | LSorensen: this was with woody's stock X, but I did upgrade to 4.3 later, although it *did* work before |
| 02:30.51 | cafuego | mantishands: don't paste here |
| 02:30.52 | bztunk | cafuego: haha, doesn't surprise me :D but why was it removed from sarge/sid? |
| 02:31.00 | cafuego | bztunk: old and crusty |
| 02:31.07 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: that's what someone else claimed a few hours ago, but using the debian packages worked for someone else where the nvidia installer just broke X |
| 02:31.13 | Ro0tSiEgE | cafuego: that sounds like all of woody :) |
| 02:31.17 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: hmm, it shouldn't have according to XFree86's release notes |
| 02:31.23 | bztunk | cafuego: i guess some people (like me) depends on some stupid propriary app heh :D |
| 02:31.30 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: unless you ran vesafb instead |
| 02:31.33 | Ro0tSiEgE | LSorensen: weird, all i know is that it worked for me, and the nvidia installer also worked just fine |
| 02:31.36 | Ro0tSiEgE | LSorensen: nope |
| 02:31.48 | cafuego | bztunk: Find a libstdc++ , symlink it to the name you need. |
| 02:31.50 | Ro0tSiEgE | LSorensen: vesafb wont do 2048x2048 :) |
| 02:31.51 | gboutwel | LSorensen: It was posted to the UML list. http://www.sdc.st/uml, I think. I can't find the link right now. |
| 02:32.09 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: I trust the debian packages more than some proprietary binary |
| 02:32.15 | cafuego | mantishands: paste it into #flood |
| 02:32.19 | LSorensen | gb: what is uml? |
| 02:32.25 | Ro0tSiEgE | LSorensen: the accelerated driver is still the same exact proprietary binary |
| 02:32.31 | gboutwel | LSorensen: http://sdw.st/src/uml/linux-2.6.1-skas3.patch |
| 02:32.31 | Ro0tSiEgE | LSorensen: no matter if its in a package or not |
| 02:32.36 | bztunk | cafuego: hum, i could, but i just downloaded the woody deb heh :D |
| 02:32.40 | gboutwel | LSorensen: User-Mode-Linux |
| 02:32.47 | cafuego | Ro0tSiEgE: it may overwrite packaged files, thus confusing dpkg. |
| 02:32.51 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: well the libs are installed differently by the debian packages and hence don't clobber files installed by packages |
| 02:33.09 | Ro0tSiEgE | LSorensen: hmm, i've never had a problem with the installer screwing up anything |
| 02:33.14 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: and it didn't work for one guy I was chatting with a couple of hours ago until he used the debian packages instead |
| 02:33.22 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: he just got a black screen |
| 02:33.23 | Ro0tSiEgE | weird |
| 02:33.28 | Ro0tSiEgE | never heard of that |
| 02:33.35 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: yes it is |
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| 02:33.47 | cafuego | Ro0tSiEgE: Well, it working for you doesn't imply you should recommend others do soemthing bad to their machines. |
| 02:33.53 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: I hadn't either, but I never did it any other way than by debian package and it worked for me, even on 2.6 |
| 02:33.59 | Ro0tSiEgE | LSorensen: MysticOne (who sits right next to me at work) has completely different hardware, but his nvidia card has no problems either :) |
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| 02:34.11 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: on debian, the safest choice is to use debian packages when possible |
| 02:34.20 | Daedric | Gentlemant, i need some info... i have a weird problem. |
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| 02:34.36 | LSorensen | Daedric: 42 |
| 02:34.36 | cafuego | Daedric: take these pills and rinse your mouth twice daily |
| 02:34.47 | Ro0tSiEgE | cafuego: if I'm simply installing Debian and running the installer and such, how is that doing something bad if it worked for me? the same distro works exactly the same on every box |
| 02:34.58 | Daedric | cafuego, LSorensen? |
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| 02:35.18 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: because overwriting files is a bad thing, and later on a package upgrade may break X on you because it puts in place a proper" |
| 02:35.22 | LSorensen | file again |
| 02:35.23 | cafuego | Ro0tSiEgE: if you have a package installed which contains a file that is overwritten by the nvidia installer, the moment uyou remove that package, said file will be *removed* |
| 02:35.24 | Justin_ | Ro0tSiEgE: "I don't know what it does, and it appears to work, so of course it isn't doing anything wrong" |
| 02:35.50 | Ro0tSiEgE | cafuego: then reinstall that package :) |
| 02:35.56 | cafuego | Ro0tSiEgE: Thus breaking X. |
| 02:35.58 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: when the files are installed by a package (as any file not in /home or /usr/local should be), it will make sure it's not unexpectedly removed or overwritten |
| 02:36.06 | Ro0tSiEgE | reinstalling fixed the problem, not breaks more |
| 02:36.10 | cafuego | Ro0tSiEgE: No, don't use the installer to begin with, but use the debian package. |
| 02:36.10 | gboutwel | LSorensen: Is there an way to do an initrd that isn't the CramFS from Debian? |
| 02:36.18 | LSorensen | gboutwel: not trivially |
| 02:36.21 | LoRez | wth can't I stop alsa w/ prejudice? if I /etc/init.d/alsa stop, then start it again, it tells me it's already running |
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| 02:36.37 | LSorensen | LoRez: check if it is in use |
| 02:36.39 | Ro0tSiEgE | cafuego: the installer works just dandy (at least for me), so I'll continute to use it till it breaks something. |
| 02:36.41 | gboutwel | LSorensen: Got any instruction, links or the like on how to? |
| 02:36.54 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: I prefer doing things correctly, not just ways that work. |
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| 02:37.06 | Ro0tSiEgE | any way that works is correct |
| 02:37.09 | LSorensen | gb: your url doesn't work |
| 02:37.11 | cafuego | Ro0tSiEgE: Like I said earlier, it working for YOU doesn't imply it working for anyone else, so just don't give people bad advice. |
| 02:37.13 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: no |
| 02:37.18 | Ro0tSiEgE | (hence the definition of correct) |
| 02:37.23 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: any way that follows system policy is correct. |
| 02:37.38 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: the wrong way may work but it is still wrong |
| 02:37.44 | gboutwel | LSorensen: Yeah. I've had trouble getting to it. Probably someone's home machine, and only works when they are on-line. |
| 02:37.49 | Ro0tSiEgE | cafuego: i'm allowed to use it however i want, and if the installer works for me, then i'm using it, whether or not it works for anyone else |
| 02:38.05 | Ro0tSiEgE | LSorensen: it cant be THAT wrong if it doesnt break anything |
| 02:38.06 | Ro0tSiEgE | :) |
| 02:38.10 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: you may do what you want, but for the sake of other people's sanity don't inflict your methods on others then |
| 02:38.11 | cafuego | Ro0tSiEgE: If what you say was true, we'd all wipe lilo or gub and set our swap aprtitions as bootable; then cat a kernel to said partitono and boot that way. it works, must be the correct way of doing things. |
| 02:38.16 | Ro0tSiEgE | lol |
| 02:38.21 | Justin_ | Ro0tSiEgE: "I don't know what it does, and it appears to work, so of course it isn't doing anything wrong" |
| 02:38.33 | Ro0tSiEgE | heh |
| 02:38.35 | g4lt | Ro0tSiEgE A very valid point of view, but when it breaks, your independence follows you. help your damn self. |
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| 02:38.40 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: well it risks breaking for no apparent reason the next time the x packages are upgraded and then the user goes "WTF happened to my X driver?" |
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| 02:39.03 | Ro0tSiEgE | LSorensen: well woody is so old i doubt that will happen for a few *years* |
| 02:39.04 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: the right way the driver won't break. |
| 02:39.08 | LoRez | LSorensen: no, when I stop it, it isn't in use. |
| 02:39.19 | aw | what does it mean when i do apt-get whatever and I get Segmentation faulty Tree... 50% |
| 02:39.26 | LSorensen | LoRez: hmm, try manually unloading the alsa drivers (snd-*) |
| 02:39.30 | cafuego | Ro0tSiEgE: It will happen the next time an X buffer overslow is detected... |
| 02:39.33 | g4lt | aw nothing good... |
| 02:39.41 | cafuego | Ro0tSiEgE: Knowing X< that's probably tomorrow. <heh> |
| 02:39.43 | aw | g4lt, i figure... fixable? |
| 02:39.55 | Ro0tSiEgE | cafuego: then i just wont use X :) |
| 02:39.57 | g4lt | aw probably, with FTP and dpkg |
| 02:40.17 | g4lt | aw expect pain and ugliness though |
| 02:40.25 | cafuego | Ro0tSiEgE: yes, but you *will* be helping all users you told that your way of installing was a real good idea. |
| 02:40.45 | aw | g4lt, any clue where to start? |
| 02:40.52 | Ro0tSiEgE | heh |
| 02:41.08 | g4lt | aw I'd probably reinstall apt and its dependencies right offhand |
| 02:41.12 | cafuego | Ro0tSiEgE: See my point? |
| 02:41.43 | LSorensen | Ro0tSiEgE: when people do things the "Right Way" (as in per documentation and policy), it allows other people to help later on |
| 02:41.47 | aw | g4lt, thanks. |
| 02:41.51 | LoRez | LSorensen: they get autoloaded as fast as I can remove them |
| 02:41.53 | jetscreamer | lies |
| 02:41.56 | Ro0tSiEgE | thats all good |
| 02:42.02 | gboutwel | LSorensen: Got any instruction, links or the like on how to make an non-cramfs initrd? |
| 02:42.14 | LSorensen | LoRez: something must be using and keeping sound open I guess. Or you aren't unloading them in the right ortder |
| 02:42.17 | Ro0tSiEgE | i was just saying that something worked for ME, i *never* recommended anyone else to do it that way |
| 02:42.19 | LSorensen | gb: http://www.user-mode-linux.org/mirror/uml-patch-2.6.0-1.bz2 might help |
| 02:42.23 | Xenguy | For those who use ssh-agent: is it normal to have more than once ssh-agent process running at any given time? |
| 02:42.25 | Ro0tSiEgE | if you scroll up, i never told anyone to do what i did |
| 02:42.34 | Ro0tSiEgE | i simply said that it worked for *me* |
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| 02:42.37 | LSorensen | gboutwel: can use debian's 2.6.0 kernel source with that I suspect |
| 02:42.44 | cafuego | Ro0tSiEgE: You told what-his-face to use the nvidia installer. |
| 02:42.52 | cafuego | Xenguy: No |
| 02:42.53 | Justin_ | Xenguy: depends how you want to use it |
| 02:43.01 | gboutwel | LSorensen: That's for the guest kernel, not the host. I'm trying to comile the host kernel. |
| 02:43.05 | LoRez | LSorensen: /etc/init.d/alsa unloads them in the correct order, and nothing has any of the audio devices in /dev open. already checked there |
| 02:43.08 | k-man | what port do i send a ps file to on an hp network printer? |
| 02:43.09 | Ro0tSiEgE | cafuego: then you corrected me, so it doesnt matter |
| 02:43.19 | LSorensen | gboutwel: ehm, huh? |
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| 02:43.34 | LSorensen | LoRez: any snd- modules still loaded after calling stop? |
| 02:43.56 | gboutwel | LSorensen: SKAS != UML, SKAS helps make UML faster. |
| 02:44.03 | LoRez | LSorensen: all of them. |
| 02:44.12 | LSorensen | gboutwel: ah |
| 02:44.38 | LSorensen | LoRez: if they are still there after alsa stop, then unload them manually one at a time until they are all gone or whatever is left says use is more than 0 |
| 02:45.09 | gboutwel | This would all go away if I could get my hands on the cramfs patch or directions on how to do an initrd that isn't cramfs, for debian's make-kpkg system. |
| 02:45.11 | LoRez | LSorensen: thanks, but that won't work. as I said, they're autoloading faster than I can remove them |
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| 02:47.32 | gaimer | why is linux so bad at playing imbed stream online? |
| 02:47.39 | Xenguy | cafuego: I think the problem is I'm invoking ssh-agent from ~/.bash_profile -- I should probably be invoking it from .xinitrc instead :-/ |
| 02:48.13 | helix | dscvlt: don't msg me |
| 02:48.34 | helix | dscvlt: there is a lot of nvidia info about debian on the internet |
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| 02:48.53 | kreg | i want to say hello world in my programming assignment in japanese. anyone know how to say hello world in japanese? |
| 02:48.57 | LSorensen | gboutwel: how about: http://web.tiscali.it/no-redirect-tiscali/blaisorblade/linux/archives/UML/v8/ ? |
| 02:48.59 | sussudio | kreg: hai |
| 02:49.07 | helix | konnichiwa |
| 02:49.15 | kreg | heh that's just hello |
| 02:49.29 | knoppix__ | konitiua, bit I dont know how to write corretly :( |
| 02:49.33 | helix | kreg: it really doesn't need to be literal, i don't think |
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| 02:50.43 | cafuego | Xenguy: I run it manually and have a function in .bash_profile that sets SSH_AGENT_PID and SSH_AUTH_SOCK if ssg-agent is running. |
| 02:50.51 | LSorensen | knoppix__: I don't know if there is a single "correct" way to write japanese with latin characters |
| 02:51.14 | cafuego | LSorensen: |-\ ~` ^% |
| 02:51.23 | helix | LSorensen: there probably is, really |
| 02:51.52 | Dieggoh | hi guys , anyone knows How to activate the cdrom dma support on scsi emulation? |
| 02:52.08 | cafuego | Dieggoh: apart from 'not' ? |
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| 02:52.34 | knoppix__ | just add "hdc-ide-scsi" on the line "append" on your /etc/lilo.conf file and rum "lilo" |
| 02:52.35 | LSorensen | Dieggoh: activate it on the ide devicer |
| 02:52.37 | cafuego | LSorensen: ã“ã‚“ã«ã¡ã¯ |
| 02:52.39 | g4lt | WTF would you want DMA on a friggin CDROM? |
| 02:52.41 | Ser_Simples | i have a PC working a winXP OS and i and tring to recover or reinstal debian woody. Fact is that the instalation program does load a driver for the hard drive. The message is that the device is busy and after that it doest alow me to particion the hard drive. what can i do? |
| 02:52.46 | LSorensen | g4lt: anyone writing cds |
| 02:52.59 | Ser_Simples | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:53.01 | cafuego | knoppix__: What is that supposed to do? |
| 02:53.02 | LSorensen | cafuego: my console is not UTF compliant |
| 02:53.03 | knoppix__ | ops, hdc=ide-scsi |
| 02:53.06 | LSorensen | cafuego: nor kanji |
| 02:53.15 | LSorensen | knoppix__: that does nothing for dma |
| 02:53.30 | g4lt | LSorensen uhm, you do of course realize that even the fastest CD burners are slow in relation to IDE bus speeds? |
| 02:53.33 | cafuego | Dieggoh: Easiest is to use ATA writing in cdrecord. |
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| 02:53.41 | knoppix__ | this will activate the ide-scsi module for your cd-rom. Subs the "hdc" for the correct dev if diferent |
| 02:53.45 | sussudio | kreg: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/hello.png |
| 02:53.49 | Dieggoh | how is that? cafuego |
| 02:53.55 | cafuego | knoppix__: That still does NOTHIGN for dma. |
| 02:54.01 | LSorensen | g4lt: I know a 48x cdrom writes at 6MB/s which is significantly faster than PIO can handle with anything resembling nice cpu load |
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| 02:54.13 | cafuego | Dieggoh: The latest cdrecord doesn't need scsi emulation to write cds. |
| 02:54.15 | knoppix__ | ops, sorry |
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| 02:54.21 | Ser_Simples | can any of u give me a insite on this mater? |
| 02:54.21 | gboutwel | LSorensen: That's what I already have (different source). The problem isn't SKAS/UML, the problem is my motherboard (which isn't replacable), the VIA I/O chipset that can't be compiled into the kernel combined with not being able to make an initrd that has that driver in it as an module, so that it can find my HD in the first place and boot off it and mount root. |
| 02:54.41 | cafuego | Dieggoh: Now I don't know if that's just on 2.6 kernels or on 2.4 as well. |
| 02:54.42 | LSorensen | gboutwel: which the debian 2.6.0 sources handle nicely :) |
| 02:54.47 | LSorensen | cafuego: 2.4 as well |
| 02:54.55 | simonrvn | @tell Ser_Simples about ig |
| 02:54.58 | cafuego | neet |
| 02:54.58 | g4lt | LSorensen uhm 6MB/s needs DMA?! |
| 02:55.03 | LSorensen | cafuego: and on 2.6 using ATAPI directly even allows DMA on non 2048byte transfers |
| 02:55.08 | cafuego | Dieggoh: Use a new cdrecord and write cd's via ata. |
| 02:55.14 | LSorensen | g4lt: yes if you don't want to run at 100% cpu load |
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| 02:55.16 | g4lt | hell, 6M/s is good for SASI |
| 02:55.23 | Dieggoh | cafuego , i have 2.6.0 and I couldn't burn without scsi emulation |
| 02:55.27 | cafuego | g4lt: if you want to be able to say run X at the same time, yes. |
| 02:55.41 | LSorensen | Dieggoh: try removing ide-scsi, and then doing: cdrecord -scanbus -dev ATAPI: |
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| 02:55.44 | cafuego | Dieggoh: it's a matter of using the correct device and driver. |
| 02:55.45 | Ser_Simples | raverbird thanks m8, but i've surfed google and debian.org and could find help. |
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| 02:55.53 | LSorensen | Dieggoh: works fine on this machine |
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| 02:56.11 | knoppix__ | to activate DMA you can use: hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc |
| 02:56.12 | LSorensen | g4lt: PIO modes suck. scsi always does dma, ide should too |
| 02:56.13 | Dieggoh | ok LSorensen thanxs |
| 02:56.13 | simonrvn | g4lt: same reasons i do |
| 02:56.24 | Ser_Simples | simonrvn thabks i googled for it. |
| 02:56.26 | Veruop | hey ive just installed debian when i installed the kernel on the cd i passed the paramater to the 3c509 isa card module irq=5 but now ive compiled 2.6.0 it runs fine except for the network card how do i pass the irq parameter to the module again? |
| 02:56.27 | LSorensen | Dieggoh: works much better than ide-scsi |
| 02:56.27 | cafuego | knoppix__: Again, that doesn't do antyhing if you're using ide-scsi |
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| 02:56.46 | LSorensen | Veruop: is 3c509 listed in /etc/modules? |
| 02:57.00 | Veruop | yup |
| 02:57.03 | cafuego | LSorensen: originally ide was shitty lesftovers from the scsi production line, they couldn't cope with dma speeds ;-) |
| 02:57.04 | Ser_Simples | any ideas guys? why does debian woody doest load the apropriet driver so that it can install? |
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| 02:57.32 | LSorensen | Veruop: could just add the options to that line |
| 02:57.38 | LSorensen | Veruop: if it still takes options |
| 02:57.38 | Dieggoh | LSorensen , but if I do that , after ... i have to comeback to scsi emulation right? |
| 02:57.41 | Ser_Simples | cafeugo any ideia? |
| 02:57.41 | beta3 | cafuego: Im trying to make a case statement |
| 02:57.43 | LSorensen | Veruop: check modinfo 3c509 |
| 02:57.46 | cafuego | Veruop: echo "options 3c509 irq=5" >> /etc/modprobe.d/network |
| 02:57.51 | beta3 | cafuego: how do I specify the pattern of any IP |
| 02:57.56 | LSorensen | Dieggoh: you don't need ide-scsi |
| 02:57.57 | simonrvn | Ser_Simples: there's a bit of the install menu that you can load extra modules if you need to. and *that* *is* in the install guide. |
| 02:58.01 | LSorensen | Dieggoh: just use the ide device. |
| 02:58.07 | bindaasnv | exit |
| 02:58.11 | Sharky | Hi |
| 02:58.13 | LSorensen | Dieggoh: I think cdrecord -dev ATAPI:/dev/hdc might even work |
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| 02:58.28 | cafuego | beta3: Hmmm... |
| 02:58.35 | gboutwel | LSorensen: yeah, that's great (that debians 2.6.0 kernel does it). Guess I'll keep plugging along and trying, till either I get it working, or Debian gets an 2.6.1 kernel source package out (though not sure how that will help me. |
| 02:58.35 | LSorensen | Dieggoh: and use hdparm to enable dma if necesary |
| 02:58.49 | Ser_Simples | simonrvn is that is a option that the install program gives. what must i do there? where and what do i place there? |
| 02:59.03 | LSorensen | gboutwel: what is wrong with applying the 2.6.0 uml patches that include skas and even include a debian patch? |
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| 02:59.18 | beta3 | cafuego: [0-254].[0-254].[0-254].[0-254] maybe? |
| 02:59.21 | cafuego | beta3: [1-9]+.[0-9]+.[0-9]+.[1-9]+ |
| 02:59.41 | cafuego | beta3: it's not pretty, but should work. |
| 02:59.45 | sussudio | [1-2-3-4] [h-o-e-d-j-e] [v-a-n] |
| 02:59.47 | Dieggoh | when I use cdrecord without scsi emulation , gives me some errors when I make: cdrecord -scanbus ..it 's like ...cdrecord is searching for scsi modules |
| 02:59.47 | Ser_Simples | simonrvn : yes,that is one option that the install program gives. what must i do there? where do i get that and what do i place there? |
| 02:59.48 | smacnay | does anyone know if cdrdao is supporting atapi writing now - at least the debian packaged versions? |
| 02:59.48 | beta3 | cafuego: what do the pluses do? |
| 02:59.49 | cafuego | beta3: regextes are WAY not my forte |
| 02:59.52 | simonrvn | Ser_Simples: try it out instead of asking. doing can teach you much more than being told by someone else sometimes |
| 02:59.54 | cafuego | beta3: one or more |
| 03:00.02 | LSorensen | Dieggoh: cdrecord -scanbus -dev ATAPI: |
| 03:00.03 | gboutwel | LSorensen: I wasn't aware of an UML-2.6.0 patch that included SKAS. |
| 03:00.07 | LSorensen | Dieggoh: note that last part of the command? |
| 03:00.10 | simonrvn | Ser_Simples: i heard you the first time, no need to repeat |
| 03:00.15 | LSorensen | gboutwel: the url I gave you has it |
| 03:00.30 | Dieggoh | yes , I'll try that way LSorensen |
| 03:00.31 | Ser_Simples | simonrvn: true, but do what? it askes to place a disk in the drive, and it searchs something there... what must i place on the disk |
| 03:00.32 | LSorensen | gboutwel: how about: http://web.tiscali.it/no-redirect-tiscali/blaisorblade/linux/archives/UML/v8/ ? |
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| 03:00.44 | LSorensen | gboutwel: that is 2.6.0 release v8 |
| 03:00.47 | simonrvn | Ser_Simples: read the install guide and you'll know |
| 03:01.00 | debian | smacnay: have yuou man cdrecord to see if there's really any option you need in cdrdao missing in cdrecord? :) |
| 03:01.06 | LSorensen | gboutwel: as far as I can tell it is at least |
| 03:01.18 | samlander | LSorensen: again, thankyou sir, you help is most appreciated |
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| 03:01.20 | samlander | LSorensen: i have successfully installed mysql 4 |
| 03:01.21 | stew | cafuego's regexp needs to have the .s escaped |
| 03:01.27 | LSorensen | samlander: great. |
| 03:01.28 | Ser_Simples | simonrvn: :( again... what part. please point me out. since this is a question i have no idea how to solce |
| 03:01.35 | smacnay | debian: good point |
| 03:01.41 | stew | [1-9]+\.[0-9]... |
| 03:01.47 | samlander | ciao |
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| 03:01.59 | LSorensen | smacnay: I don't know if cdrdao is even being maintained anymore |
| 03:02.06 | caphuso | beta3: what language are you using? |
| 03:02.14 | cafuego | beta3: [1-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}\.[1-9]{1,3} |
| 03:02.16 | simonrvn | Ser_Simples: go. read. it. it's translated into several languages too.. |
| 03:02.33 | caphuso | cafuego: 999.999.999.999 is *not* an IP |
| 03:02.40 | Ser_Simples | simonrvn: all i ask is what's the info that must be on the disk and how to set that up, since it makes no sense that a computer that had win98 worker fine with linux and nowit does not since it's XP |
| 03:02.48 | cafuego | caphuso: Note how I said 'closer' |
| 03:02.54 | beta3 | caphuso: bash? |
| 03:02.56 | smacnay | LSorensen: ouch - I always liked its ability to copy audio cd's rather painlessly. |
| 03:03.07 | debian | smacnay: and the original cdrecord is ging proprietary. The present cdrecord is a gpl clone |
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| 03:03.10 | LSorensen | smacnay: yeah I know. Not sure if readcd/cdrecord combo can do it too |
| 03:03.10 | gboutwel | LSorensen: Maybe I'll give that an try, after I try a few more things. Going to call it a night (on-line anyways). Thanks for that help. |
| 03:03.11 | caphuso | beta3: bash doesn't have any form of regex support |
| 03:03.20 | beta3 | caphuso: heh |
| 03:03.21 | LoRez | beta3: /^(?!0)((?:(?:[01]?\d\d?|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])\.){3}(?:[01]?\d\d?|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5]))$/ |
| 03:03.23 | LSorensen | debian: where ever did you get that idea? |
| 03:03.32 | simonrvn | Ser_Simples: last time. go read the install guide. all your questions can and are answered by that documentation |
| 03:03.36 | LSorensen | debian: that's a complete load of crap |
| 03:03.36 | cafuego | beta3: I would frankly use php and do a gethostbyaddr(); tell $USER to fuck off if it doesn't return anything. |
| 03:03.37 | beta3 | caphuso: well here I use zsh, does it have any? |
| 03:04.03 | Ser_Simples | simonrvn i dont wnat to abuse your patiance, could u point me out to where in the doc? |
| 03:04.11 | Sharky | i can't mount a partition without root user :-( witch group needed to add my user |
| 03:04.11 | cafuego | debian: Just because it has the shittiest build system known to man doesn't mean it's proprietary. |
| 03:04.19 | simonrvn | Ser_Simples: no. |
| 03:04.26 | caphuso | beta3: depends on the version |
| 03:04.27 | beta3 | cafuego: they have a php login thing to do dynamic dns, but I was writing bash script that handles it |
| 03:04.32 | Ser_Simples | simonrvn cant or dont know where? |
| 03:04.33 | beta3 | caphuso: latest beta of zsh |
| 03:04.34 | simonrvn | Ser_Simples: it has a table of contents |
| 03:04.52 | Ser_Simples | simonrvn been there. read it... didnt find it doe |
| 03:04.52 | LSorensen | debian: cdrecord is GPL, and is still the same author it seems to have always been. cdrecord-prodvd is a different story |
| 03:04.56 | caphuso | beta3: then you can use the pcre module (if you manage to figure out how to use it) |
| 03:05.05 | simonrvn | Ser_Simples: you're bullshitting. go away |
| 03:05.19 | LSorensen | debian: cdrecord-prodvd is same author, but not gpl and does dvd recording too |
| 03:05.25 | Ser_Simples | simonrvn am not, sorry for the inconvenience. |
| 03:05.32 | Justin_ | LoRez: the code in c to strsep that, strtol, and compare to > 0 < 256 would probably be shorter |
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| 03:05.57 | debian | cafuego, LSorensen:Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a24 |
| 03:06.00 | LoRez | Justin_: that's a factoid in #perl's bot |
| 03:06.06 | Justin_ | LoRez: heh |
| 03:06.20 | simonrvn | Contents |
| 03:06.21 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:06.34 | simonrvn | Ser_Simples: see that? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install |
| 03:06.43 | LSorensen | debian: deb: that is STILL the original cdrecord, but with some debian patches applied |
| 03:06.52 | LSorensen | debian: note who the author is? |
| 03:06.57 | Ser_Simples | 5.3 ? |
| 03:07.02 | caphuso | you should use Regexp::Common::net if you want to match IPs in perl |
| 03:07.12 | simonrvn | Ser_Simples: if you had bothered to check that, you wouldn't have asked me these redundant questions. |
| 03:07.17 | debian | LSorensen: please go to the original author's site and read his disclaimer. I got call brb. |
| 03:07.18 | LSorensen | debian: and for how long he has had the copyright on cdrecord? |
| 03:07.31 | Ser_Simples | redundant? |
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| 03:07.42 | Ser_Simples | m8, iam new still. |
| 03:07.44 | Ser_Simples | sorry |
| 03:08.05 | Ser_Simples | so if i got u correctly u mean that i should trie to install from a floppy |
| 03:08.09 | simonrvn | Ser_Simples: so when someone tells you to go read something, you do that. learn to listen |
| 03:08.24 | LSorensen | learn to read. it's healty and entertaining. |
| 03:08.25 | Justin_ | !+u |
| 03:08.25 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1. |
| 03:08.47 | simonrvn | Ser_Simples: being new is not an excuse for not using your ears (or eyes) |
| 03:08.49 | Ser_Simples | i read it m8. get this. i instaled woody before in this computer by the cdrom, no worrys there. makes no sence to me that it does work now, cause i jhave xp |
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| 03:09.13 | simonrvn | Ser_Simples: those docs are quite detailed |
| 03:09.15 | Ser_Simples | all i wanted to know is why this error mesage. |
| 03:09.26 | cafuego | Justin_: in C you'd try to make a sockaddr* and see if it fails. |
| 03:09.31 | Ser_Simples | why do i need to install from diskes now. |
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| 03:09.34 | RobotBebop | hey |
| 03:09.47 | Justin_ | cafuego: huh? |
| 03:09.51 | Ser_Simples | i even tried it from DOS (whit better results even) |
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| 03:09.56 | Justin_ | cafuego: oh, that too:-) |
| 03:10.28 | cafuego | beta3: Call a little C app which returns 0 or 1 from your bash script |
| 03:10.48 | Justin_ | cafuego: wouldn't inet_ntoa tell you too? i dunno if that uses bounds checking |
| 03:10.55 | beta3 | cafuego: like? |
| 03:11.24 | beta3 | cafuego: don't worry, the thing is going to be ported to C soon |
| 03:11.31 | beta3 | cafuego: bash is crap |
| 03:11.37 | pshaggy | is there anything I can apt get to receive real audio or wma from the web? |
| 03:11.48 | beta3 | cafuego: probably use the libcurl libraries or maybe libwww |
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| 03:12.21 | stew | pshaggy: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 03:12.43 | pshaggy | thanks stew. It handles both? |
| 03:12.50 | stew | yeah |
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| 03:14.08 | helix | beta3: why is bash crap? |
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| 03:14.42 | indes | helix: lets just all use tch and bend to beta3's will. :-p |
| 03:14.48 | skippy | anyone know of a good program to play wav files from the command line? |
| 03:14.52 | helix | indes: heh |
| 03:14.59 | indes | skippy: play (apt-get install sox) |
| 03:15.00 | helix | i'm just curious.. i don't know a lot about shells |
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| 03:15.07 | skippy | indes: thanks |
| 03:15.11 | helix | but i don't do much with them.. so no surprise |
| 03:15.13 | indes | skippy: np |
| 03:15.38 | indes | helix: most are close to the same operationally, just different scripting methods... |
| 03:15.59 | indes | syntaxes differ is the correct thing to say |
| 03:16.05 | cafuego | beta3: Just wrote one, want it? |
| 03:16.21 | helix | indes: hmm.. so is the preference personal or is one *really* better than another? |
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| 03:16.44 | helix | i mean, C > visual basic |
| 03:16.49 | helix | same deal with shells? or not so obvious? |
| 03:16.49 | indes | helix: I prefer bash because I know it, |
| 03:16.56 | indes | well, I suppose so |
| 03:17.18 | xerophyte | i install woody from CD room, the GDM or x is not starting how can i login to the text console its keep trying to run teh gdm something..? |
| 03:17.24 | indes | some may not be as powerful as others but all have to take into account environment variables etc.. so.. I don't see technically how much they could differ |
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| 03:17.32 | cafuego | beta3: /j #flood |
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| 03:17.40 | indes | xerophyte: alt+ctrl+F2 |
| 03:17.45 | helix | indes: i see |
| 03:17.57 | helix | but this is coming from beta3 ;) he says everything sucks |
| 03:18.00 | caphuso | helix: it's limited |
| 03:18.01 | xerophyte | indes i didnt work because its keep trying to run the gdm |
| 03:18.10 | cafuego | beta3: wake up! |
| 03:18.13 | linuxbox | hey guys...i am using an SMC nic and i was told to use the 8139too driver to get it to work during the install....still didnt work! |
| 03:18.21 | indes | xerophyte: your normal TTYs shouldn't be inturrupted by GDM |
| 03:18.27 | helix | caphuso: how so? just for shell scripting? |
| 03:18.45 | xerophyte | indes let me try again |
| 03:18.48 | cafuego | helix: he wants to validate an arbitary string as an IP address |
| 03:18.58 | indes | xerophyte: try F2 - F5 |
| 03:19.11 | indes | I was close |
| 03:19.13 | helix | cafuego: and that can't be done with bash? |
| 03:19.22 | indes | I don't think so. |
| 03:19.29 | cafuego | helix: Not as foolproof as I just did in C, no. |
| 03:19.32 | indes | like an atoi deal |
| 03:19.33 | caphuso | helix: no, also for interactive use |
| 03:19.52 | helix | cafuego: that was quick :) |
| 03:19.58 | indes | helix: bash is nice for `piping' output along |
| 03:19.59 | helix | caphuso: i see.. |
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| 03:20.12 | helix | i've only ever done bash scripting and did that poorly.. |
| 03:20.16 | cafuego | helix: most of it is error checking too |
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| 03:20.19 | indes | helix: I'm sure you know how to use | < > etc |
| 03:20.26 | helix | indes: yeah |
| 03:20.33 | cafuego | if (gethostbyname(argv[1]) == NULL) return 0; return 1; |
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| 03:20.36 | helix | my needs are pretty minimal.. i was just curious |
| 03:20.40 | jono | any idea why this wont back up my db: |
| 03:20.41 | jono | mysql -u jono -p mydb > dbfile.sql |
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| 03:20.45 | helix | cafuego: that must be why linus emails you |
| 03:20.50 | caphuso | indes: that's not a bash feature |
| 03:20.54 | cafuego | helix: <heh. he wants my baby |
| 03:20.58 | helix | haha |
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| 03:21.05 | linuxbox | can anybody help me? (the questions up a little bit) |
| 03:21.08 | cafuego | but i already sold it |
| 03:21.10 | RobotBebop | isn't there some guide to developing window managers? |
| 03:21.12 | mcc | jono: say "mysqldump" not "mysql", and specify a database |
| 03:21.13 | Justin_ | nah, to do good shell scripting you have to learn how to |/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\| :-) |
| 03:21.15 | caphuso | indes: every bourne-like shell has to have those |
| 03:21.23 | indes | caphuso: bourn like, |
| 03:21.24 | mcc | oh, wait, mydb is the database |
| 03:21.29 | Justin_ | !+utsl |
| 03:21.29 | dpkg | it has been said that utsl is Use The Source, Luke (loose translation: you think this has *comments*, huh?). Real Men don't write documentation; if it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. |
| 03:21.38 | indes | caphuso: as where some shells are not bournelike |
| 03:21.41 | Justin_ | RobotBebop: ^^^^^ |
| 03:21.41 | mcc | you may have to specify the password on the cmdline if you're doing io redirection; i'm not sure |
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| 03:22.03 | RobotBebop | Justin_, ah .. er.. thanks ? |
| 03:22.04 | indes | caphuso: I was just trying to think of some example how shells differ.. I'm too tired to even try to reason why. ;-) |
| 03:22.22 | helix | wow, that's one of the snobbiest factoids i've ever seen |
| 03:22.28 | RobotBebop | no shit. |
| 03:22.48 | RobotBebop | i thought there was some guide for the bare minimum requirements that a WM has to fill |
| 03:22.59 | Justin_ | if it hasn't occurred to you to read the source of other window managers to see how they work, maybe you shouldn't be writing one... |
| 03:23.07 | indes | lol |
| 03:23.25 | stew | not a llama! |
| 03:23.31 | stew | they're cute! |
| 03:23.39 | helix | alpaca's are cuter |
| 03:23.41 | RobotBebop | Justin_, because code is the least digestable form of documentation. |
| 03:23.41 | indes | smartasscomments rock |
| 03:23.43 | stew | helix: yes! |
| 03:23.46 | cafuego | not as cute as vicunas |
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| 03:24.02 | cafuego | indes: As do retarded variable names. |
| 03:24.10 | cafuego | indes: *frog = womble; |
| 03:24.24 | Justin_ | cafuego: int iterator_for_inner_loop; |
| 03:24.31 | ScatterBrain | Can someone help me get sound working on my Laptop? |
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| 03:25.00 | cafuego | Justin_: Nono, camelcase it too. iteratorForInnerLoop (just coz it's more annying) |
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| 03:25.16 | beta3 | cafuego: back |
| 03:25.17 | beta3 | sorry |
| 03:25.22 | beta3 | I don't have much time, show it to me now |
| 03:25.27 | cafuego | beta3: /j flood |
| 03:25.35 | beta3 | already there |
| 03:25.36 | danor | witch port are nfs running on (standard)? |
| 03:25.52 | Justin_ | cafuego: oh, and do that other thing too, int intIteratorForInnerLoop; /* iterator for inner loop */ |
| 03:26.52 | stew | danor: 111: sunrpc |
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| 03:27.04 | danor | ok |
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| 03:28.38 | cafuego | Justin_: And of course /* this is where the inner loop ends, intIteratorForInnerLoop is now an available variable */ |
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| 03:29.10 | ScatterBrain | Can someone help me get sound working on my Laptop? |
| 03:29.17 | indes | no |
| 03:29.19 | jdebman | If an apt-get update wants to get me a new kernel image will it recompilie using my settings of my old kernel or will I have to go through the process again? |
| 03:29.22 | CrazyDemon | Hey everyone.. I could use a little help with getting apache going on debian.. |
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| 03:29.30 | bob2 | ScatterBrain: /msg dpkg audio |
| 03:29.35 | bob2 | CrazyDemon: install it. it runs. |
| 03:29.49 | CrazyDemon | youd think that wouldnt you |
| 03:30.02 | CrazyDemon | apt-get apache php4-mysql |
| 03:30.04 | CrazyDemon | err |
| 03:30.12 | CrazyDemon | apt-get install apache php4-mysql |
| 03:30.26 | CrazyDemon | wont recognize php files |
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| 03:30.49 | stew | CrazyDemon: you have to uncomment a couple of lines in /etc/apache/httpd.conf |
| 03:31.07 | stew | CrazyDemon: a LoadModule line for php4 and the AddType line(s) for php |
| 03:31.07 | [NB]Debug | any one got a minute to talk me thru setting up a CVS server on debian |
| 03:31.19 | jdebman | If an apt-get update wants to get me a new kernel image will it |
| 03:31.19 | jdebman | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.19 | jdebman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:31.50 | [NB]Debug | any one got a minute to talk me thru setting up a CVS server on debian in private chat |
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| 03:31.58 | CrazyDemon | stew: dont seem to have either of those |
| 03:31.58 | stew | jdebman: kernel image is already compiled |
| 03:32.01 | Justin_ | jdebman: what "settings"? |
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| 03:32.07 | stew | CrazyDemon: apt-get install php4 |
| 03:32.29 | dondelelcaro | [NB]Debug: unless you absolutely need pserver, it's just apt-get install cvs; then read the cvs book to setup a repository. |
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| 03:32.37 | [NB]Debug | i need pserver |
| 03:32.38 | [NB]Debug | heh |
| 03:32.40 | xerophyte | how can i setup this gdm or how can i start the debian without X.. i tried ctl+alt+fx didnt working.. can somebody tell me how can i bypass this stupid gdm.. woody didnt configure my x good its keep on trying to start the x |
| 03:32.42 | [NB]Debug | you got it in one :) |
| 03:32.45 | CrazyDemon | stew: php4 is already the newest version |
| 03:32.46 | dondelelcaro | [NB]Debug: why? |
| 03:32.54 | [NB]Debug | security |
| 03:33.02 | [NB]Debug | an dits what everyone used before |
| 03:33.08 | dondelelcaro | [NB]Debug: uh, that's the exact wrong reason to use pserver. |
| 03:33.13 | [NB]Debug | lol |
| 03:33.16 | [NB]Debug | ok talk to me |
| 03:33.17 | g4lt | why is pserver more secure than EXT:ssh? |
| 03:33.24 | dondelelcaro | [NB]Debug: pserver is a security hole waiting to happen. use ssh instead. |
| 03:33.24 | xerophyte | indes ctl+alt+fx didnt work gdm still trying to restart |
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| 03:33.39 | CaT[tm] | hey. how do I tell ssh to stop checking the known_hosts file? I tried ssh -o 'CheckHostIP no' -o 'StrictHostKeyChecking no' but it's not working. Also tried with = signs. |
| 03:33.39 | [NB]Debug | hmms |
| 03:33.50 | [NB]Debug | i think some of the users use a winbloze cvs client |
| 03:33.55 | [NB]Debug | not sure it supports ssh |
| 03:34.01 | dondelelcaro | CaT[tm]: fix your known_hosts file. |
| 03:34.04 | jdebman | thanks stew! |
| 03:34.08 | indes | xerophyte: uhm, hrm... |
| 03:34.19 | g4lt | [NB]Debug wincvs does, I know, and so does turtle |
| 03:34.20 | xerophyte | indes i really get this gdm .. |
| 03:34.27 | [NB]Debug | turtle = tortoise? |
| 03:34.32 | g4lt | yeah |
| 03:34.35 | [NB]Debug | i think they use tortoise ok |
| 03:34.37 | xerophyte | indes i mean i really hate this gdm i need to start the linux in console how can i |
| 03:34.38 | indes | xerophyte: I dunno.... unless you boot with the install disk, at the boot prompt type: rescue root=/dev/hdX# |
| 03:34.39 | [NB]Debug | fair enuff |
| 03:34.45 | g4lt | one of them hard-shelled animals |
| 03:34.49 | CaT[tm] | don: how do I fix it so that it doesn't complain when a new server is under that host/ip? reediting it each time is not really acceptable. |
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| 03:34.55 | Xenguy | xerophyte: did you uninstall gdm ? |
| 03:35.02 | indes | xerophyte: that should boot to your install, from there login as root and apt-get remove gdm |
| 03:35.05 | xerophyte | xenguy how can i do it |
| 03:35.06 | g4lt | tortoise uses putty for SSH functionality |
| 03:35.09 | indes | Xenguy: he can't get a console |
| 03:35.15 | indes | xerophyte: boot the rescue disk |
| 03:35.41 | indes | remove it |
| 03:35.50 | Xenguy | xerophyte: boot to 'single user' ? |
| 03:35.51 | dondelelcaro | CaT[tm]: you want to reedit it each time. |
| 03:35.58 | Justin_ | !tell xerophyte about i forgot root's password |
| 03:36.00 | dondelelcaro | CaT[tm]: otherwise you're vulnerable to man-in-the middle attacks. |
| 03:36.04 | [NB]Debug | ok for sake of argument how do i do pserver |
| 03:36.13 | xerophyte | Xenguy when try linux signle its still try the gdm |
| 03:36.13 | indes | Xenguy: will that disable gdm? |
| 03:36.18 | dondelelcaro | CaT[tm]: the host/ip should not be changing for a machine that rapidly. |
| 03:36.19 | Justin_ | Xenguy: do that, but just remove /etc/rc2.d/*gdm |
| 03:36.21 | Justin_ | er |
| 03:36.26 | CaT[tm] | don: if I wanted that I wouldn't be asking how to avoid that. it's on a local network. there's a single switch between me and it. It's a fresh server. I'm not worried. |
| 03:36.30 | indes | Justin_: he has no console |
| 03:36.32 | Justin_ | xerophyte: do that, but just remove /etc/rc2.d/*gdm |
| 03:36.41 | CaT[tm] | don: it's a 'build new box' ip. |
| 03:36.48 | Justin_ | indes: its a good thing i sent him the factoid that tells him how to get to one then isn't it? |
| 03:37.01 | indes | Justin_: root password forget? |
| 03:37.15 | Justin_ | indes: go back to sleep |
| 03:37.32 | indes | Justin_: why Its still early |
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| 03:38.16 | stew | CrazyDemon: do you have an /etc/apache/modules.conf file? |
| 03:38.40 | Xenguy | indes: or a rescue/boot solution |
| 03:38.52 | CrazyDemon | stew: yeah |
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| 03:39.18 | stew | CrazyDemon: is there an addmodule line for php4 in there? |
| 03:39.27 | dondelelcaro | CaT[tm]: my name is dondelelcaro. anyway, you can adjust the CheckHostIP option by passing ssh -o CheckHostIP=no foo... |
| 03:39.33 | CrazyDemon | stew: no |
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| 03:39.52 | bob2 | CrazyDemon: you need to read the documentation, of course. /usr/share/doc/php4/README.Debian, if no one else has said it yet. |
| 03:39.59 | dondelelcaro | CaT[tm]: do _NOT_ set that in your /etc/ssh/ssh_config. [or restrict it to a single host.] |
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| 03:40.07 | CrazyDemon | bob2: i have... thats whY im here |
| 03:40.14 | RichiH_ | wb beauchesne ;) |
| 03:40.21 | graeme | does anyone know of an apt source that has evolution 1.5? |
| 03:40.22 | beauchesne | What is the easiest way to get gaim 0.75 with ssl working on woody? |
| 03:40.26 | bob2 | CrazyDemon: you read it and it still didn't work? |
| 03:40.32 | beauchesne | RichiH_: hello :) |
| 03:40.33 | CrazyDemon | bob2: yeah |
| 03:40.37 | helix | graeme: experimental |
| 03:40.41 | helix | !experimental |
| 03:40.41 | dpkg | somebody said experimental was If you want to use some certain packages in experimental (probably xfree86 4.3.0), you need first a sources.list line of 'deb http://debian.mirror/debian/ ../project/experimental main', then 'Package: *', 'Pin: release a=experimental', 'Priority: 1001' in /etc/apt/preferences. Remember, it's hard to get to for a reason! |
| 03:40.43 | CaT[tm] | don: i have rsi. i try to avoid typing too much. and that doesn't work. :/ |
| 03:40.47 | linuxbox | Is libranet the same as debian basically but an easier install? |
| 03:40.50 | bob2 | CrazyDemon: after doing aneverything it said, and restarting apache? |
| 03:40.53 | bob2 | linuxbox: no |
| 03:40.54 | helix | CaT[tm]: use tab completion |
| 03:40.56 | CrazyDemon | bob2: yup |
| 03:41.00 | linuxbox | how's it different |
| 03:41.01 | bob2 | beauchesne: www.apt-get.org, find a backport |
| 03:41.02 | helix | CaT[tm]: type don, then press tab |
| 03:41.07 | bob2 | CrazyDemon: file a bug |
| 03:41.15 | graeme | helix, thanks |
| 03:41.20 | beauchesne | bob2: I'm sorry, what's a backport? |
| 03:41.22 | stew | CrazyDemon: do you have a /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so file? |
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| 03:41.47 | CaT[tm] | hel: not available. |
| 03:41.51 | helix | erm |
| 03:41.52 | CrazyDemon | stew: yeah |
| 03:41.57 | helix | CaT[tm]: what irc client? |
| 03:42.03 | bob2 | beauchesne: a newer package rebuilt for woody |
| 03:42.07 | JAH_ | can anyone recommend a nice transparent gkrellm theme? |
| 03:42.19 | jzaun | is there a kernel-2.6.1 deb anywhere I can apt-get? |
| 03:42.21 | CaT[tm] | hel: my own. |
| 03:42.30 | jzaun | latest I can seem to find is 2.6.0-test11 |
| 03:42.34 | helix | CaT[tm]: ok then. your own irc client sucks |
| 03:42.38 | beauchesne | bob2: Great thanks |
| 03:42.58 | stew | CrazyDemon: it seems like the php4 didn't install completely or correctly if you got that file but it wasn't set up in the apache conf |
| 03:43.02 | CaT[tm] | hel: not for me. |
| 03:43.15 | stew | CrazyDemon: you need to add LoadModule line to point to that .so |
| 03:43.25 | CrazyDemon | k, il give that a shot |
| 03:43.28 | g4lt | jzaun of course, there was a .deb file for the kernel a full month before it was released |
| 03:43.29 | stew | and add the AddType statment to point .php files to that module |
| 03:43.30 | CrazyDemon | .. again |
| 03:43.42 | dondelelcaro | CaT[tm]: well, get tab completion working... it's not like it's that difficult... |
| 03:44.04 | jzaun | g4lt: and how would I go about getting it installed? :-) |
| 03:44.14 | CaT[tm] | don: most people I speak to can handle their nick being shortened. |
| 03:44.17 | dondelelcaro | [NB]Debug: read /topic. in answer to your query, the documentation is in info cvs. you generally setup pserver under inetd.conf, but it's not a great idea. |
| 03:44.20 | g4lt | you would learn to recognize sarcasm, that's how |
| 03:44.33 | helix | CaT[tm]: it's kind of difficult to follow in a channel like this with so much activity |
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| 03:44.43 | helix | CaT[tm]: nick highlighting is semi-important.. |
| 03:44.54 | dondelelcaro | CaT[tm]: it doesn't bother me, but you won't get any response from me if you don't complete it a bit more than that. |
| 03:44.56 | jzaun | g4lt: I do recognize sarcasm, just checking if you did too :-P |
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| 03:45.47 | beauchesne | grr. I can't install gaim with ssl without libgnutls, and the one for woody is far too old :( |
| 03:45.59 | Justin_ | !tell beauchesne about backports |
| 03:46.02 | dondelelcaro | beauchesne: so backport it. |
| 03:46.06 | Justin_ | grr |
| 03:46.15 | beauchesne | I just got a backport. It requires libgnutls. |
| 03:46.18 | Justin_ | apt: backports is also www.backports.org |
| 03:46.20 | | i already had it that way, Justin_ |
| 03:46.23 | dondelelcaro | helix: w0r1d d0m1n4t10n!!!111 |
| 03:46.27 | helix | hahaha |
| 03:46.39 | Justin_ | beauchesne: install it correctly then |
| 03:46.43 | helix | dondelelcaro: you typed that far too quickly.. |
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| 03:47.05 | dondelelcaro | helix: ph34r my l33t3 sk111z. |
| 03:47.09 | beauchesne | Justin_: I'm sorry? |
| 03:47.17 | CaT[tm] | helix: that is a valid pt. |
| 03:47.17 | helix | i do |
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| 03:47.26 | helix | CaT[tm]: that's why people like it :) |
| 03:47.40 | sussudio | !fix CaT[tm] |
| 03:47.44 | CaT[tm] | dond: well I'll try but my fingers are already beginning to hurt and I have 3-4hrs of typing left. :/ |
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| 03:47.52 | helix | my kitties are getting fixed tomorrow ;/ |
| 03:48.06 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: it's not that difficult... |
| 03:48.06 | bbmj | !fart |
| 03:48.21 | Justin_ | beauchesne: www.backports.org, read, install |
| 03:48.38 | beauchesne | Justin_: alrighty. thanks |
| 03:48.54 | dondelelcaro | CaT[tm]: time for a more ergonomic workspace, methinks... |
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| 03:48.59 | paueas | anyone in here familiar with the matrox g550 and setting up framebuffer to work on boot? |
| 03:49.02 | bbmj | !tell bbmj about dpkg |
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| 03:49.40 | bbmj | !tell bbmj about tasksel |
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| 03:49.47 | g4lt | dondelelcaro I'd say I'll take your word for it, but we have an excellent case-in-point in the Bush State of the Union...;P |
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| 03:50.14 | helix | g4lt: nucular b0mbz! |
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| 03:50.15 | stew | bbmj, you shold be doing "/msg dpkg tasksel" to keep the conversation between you and the bot private |
| 03:50.17 | sussudio | !tell bbmj about msg the bot |
| 03:50.18 | edison | Help when i do fdisk /dev/sda i get message partition 1 has different phisical/logical endings: phy(499, 15, 32) logical =(489, 15, 32), i can read on the device but i can't write on it ? |
| 03:50.21 | Ize | f |
| 03:50.41 | CaT[tm] | dond: indeed. :/ |
| 03:50.44 | g4lt | stew yeah, but we can't laugh about a private conversation ;P |
| 03:50.45 | deano_ | sorry to ask such a question... but I am a long time slacker new to Debian.. Is there a "Debian way" to get err.. DVD's playing right? |
| 03:51.04 | deano_ | links? |
| 03:51.06 | deano_ | :) |
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| 03:51.17 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: oh, I won't talk about that... I almost choked when I heard the 3million teenagers with STD's factoids... |
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| 03:52.12 | debian | deano_: what's the slacker's way to DVD's playing? :) |
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| 03:52.19 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: the only reference I could find to that figure is a 1994 (!) study by some right wing think tank. |
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| 03:52.37 | stew | debian: i think the slackers way is to ask your roomate to put a dvd in the dvd player |
| 03:52.40 | liu7 | how do i know which version of software comes with apt |
| 03:52.40 | g4lt | bush, fact-check? NEVER! |
| 03:52.46 | banjo | I have a question, probably simple answer. My sound works when KDE first starts ( the startup noise) but not after that. |
| 03:52.46 | penguen | what is the file in debian that is similar to slackware's /etc/rc.d/rc.modules? |
| 03:52.49 | liu7 | im not sure how to write that question |
| 03:52.55 | dondelelcaro | penguen: modconf |
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| 03:53.05 | dondelelcaro | liu7: apt-cache show foopkg |
| 03:53.11 | liu7 | thanks |
| 03:53.15 | sussudio | !pity foopkg |
| 03:53.16 | dpkg | I pity da fool foopkg! |
| 03:53.31 | penguen | dondelelcaro, do you mean modules.conf ? |
| 03:53.32 | deano_ | ..just wondering if there was a magic apt command for it ;) |
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| 03:53.55 | debian | stew: :) |
| 03:53.56 | dondelelcaro | penguen: no, I mean modconf. |
| 03:53.59 | banjo | I've tried sndconfig and alsa to no avail |
| 03:54.01 | graeme | deano_, you nead libdvdcss2 |
| 03:54.05 | dondelelcaro | penguen: run modconf. |
| 03:54.10 | graeme | then use totem. |
| 03:54.35 | deano_ | aye |
| 03:54.44 | penguen | dondelelcaro, oh now i see, i thought it was a conf file under /etc |
| 03:54.58 | dondelelcaro | penguen: if you dislike curses, you can edit /etc/modules. but that's (basically) what modconf does. |
| 03:55.01 | stew | deano_: which dist are you on? unstable? |
| 03:55.16 | graeme | deano_, get it from deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main |
| 03:55.43 | penguen | dondelelcaro, modules.conf is the file that modconf configures? |
| 03:55.46 | deano_ | um.. I kinda cheated.... Knoppix install |
| 03:55.51 | deano_ | :S |
| 03:56.06 | kreg | exit |
| 03:56.07 | deano_ | unstable I assume |
| 03:56.27 | stew | deano_: then add the source the graeme said |
| 03:56.28 | debian | ^$#)(% |
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| 03:56.36 | dondelelcaro | penguen: no, /etc/modules is. |
| 03:56.43 | debian | deano_: go to #knoppix |
| 03:57.00 | penguen | dondelelcaro, ok thanks a lot |
| 03:57.20 | deano_ | debian: this is basically debian now.. no? |
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| 03:57.44 | g4lt | deano_ no |
| 03:57.46 | stew | deano_: i guess you could say close but no cigar |
| 03:57.52 | debian | !tell deano_ about knoppix |
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| 03:58.09 | fando | argh, i hate java plugin |
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| 03:58.18 | deano_ | o.. |
| 03:58.25 | Random_832 | can someone help me figure out why firebird isn't working suddenly? |
| 03:58.34 | Random_832 | zsh: 7246 file size limit exceeded mozilla-firebird |
| 03:58.39 | debian | ~tell deano_ about knoppix |
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| 03:58.51 | fando | tux-helper: java plugin is not running, despite the presence of libjavaplugin_oji.so |
| 03:59.10 | deano_ | k.. um.. sorry |
| 03:59.31 | debian | deano_: come back when you get a real debian |
| 03:59.34 | CaT[tm] | got it |
| 03:59.45 | Random_832 | anyone? |
| 03:59.53 | deano_ | lol.. sure. thx anyway everyone |
| 03:59.55 | debian | !scratch caT[tm] |
| 04:00.10 | stew | fando: did you copy it to the plugins directory or simlink it there? |
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| 04:00.22 | fando | stew: yes, it was there to begin with |
| 04:00.51 | stew | fando: what was where? (that was an either or, not a yes no question) |
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| 04:01.27 | fando | stew: it's in /usr/lib/mozilla, and I made symlinks in .mozilla/plugins to be sure |
| 04:01.43 | stew | fando: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins? |
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| 04:01.45 | fando | yes |
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| 04:02.11 | stew | fando: did you get the jdk/plugin for the same gcc version that your mozilla was compiled with? |
| 04:02.11 | karsten | xai: I'm not a bot. |
| 04:02.22 | square_ | Hello, Debian newbie, I am trying to get gpm running (logitech mouse on /dev/psaux) (using gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2), when it starts it cursor appears when the mouse is moved but only semi-randomly jerks around the top of the screen {,de}selecting stuff! Any ideas? |
| 04:02.26 | fando | stew: probably not, I'll check that |
| 04:02.27 | helix | hahaha |
| 04:02.29 | karsten | xai: ...however, net.abuse.* is probably your friend. |
| 04:02.39 | stew | fando: are you on stable or unstable? |
| 04:02.47 | Random_832 | mozilla and firebird both won't start... anyone else had this problem? |
| 04:02.48 | fando | stew: unstable |
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| 04:02.58 | fando | it hasn't been updated in 1 month |
| 04:03.15 | stew | fando: make sure to get a jre that is gcc2.3 compatable |
| 04:03.40 | stew | fando: make that gcc3.2 |
| 04:03.41 | The_Vulture | stew: 3.2 perhaps? |
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| 04:03.44 | The_Vulture | ;) |
| 04:03.46 | stew | :) |
| 04:03.49 | Random_832 | is everyone ignoring me? |
| 04:03.51 | filp | is there any relationship to the video modules that you compile in your kernel and the drivers that xfree86 uses, I know you don't need to have a module compiled in the kernel to get X working, just wondering. |
| 04:03.53 | The_Vulture | Random_832: yes |
| 04:03.57 | fando | ok, thanks |
| 04:03.58 | bob2 | Random_832: yup |
| 04:04.02 | Random_832 | ... |
| 04:04.07 | stew | !tell Random_832 about polls |
| 04:04.15 | bob2 | Random_832: you're being too lazy, is the problem. |
| 04:04.22 | bob2 | Random_832: that bug has been fixed already. |
| 04:04.32 | simonrvn | @tell Random_832 about bts |
| 04:04.42 | dc5sd | Newbie needs help |
| 04:04.45 | Random_832 | ... |
| 04:04.51 | simonrvn | @tell dc5sd about ask |
| 04:04.52 | dc5sd | i just finished a new install |
| 04:04.54 | bob2 | Random_832: did you check the bts? |
| 04:05.01 | Random_832 | you know, the error i got isn't much of a search string :P |
| 04:05.04 | dc5sd | and i tried to update my packages |
| 04:05.17 | Random_832 | and it worked earlier and i haven't updated since |
| 04:05.19 | helix | dc5sd: so what's the problem? |
| 04:05.21 | dc5sd | but it says there are no updates available |
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| 04:05.23 | bob2 | Random_832: yes you have |
| 04:05.31 | bob2 | Random_832: upgarde dash |
| 04:05.35 | bob2 | and stop being so lazy |
| 04:05.42 | gsp | How do I link my CDROM that is at /dev/hda to /dev/cdrom? |
| 04:05.43 | Random_832 | it worked at some point after the last time i upgraded anything related to mozilla |
| 04:05.47 | Random_832 | what's "dash" ? |
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| 04:06.38 | simonrvn | @tell root about root |
| 04:06.38 | xenohugs | o_O |
| 04:06.38 | Random_832 | is there any way to make it use some other shell instead? |
| 04:06.38 | dc5sd | i was wondering if im missing a link or if the link was incorrect |
| 04:06.38 | Vladkao | simonrvn he's already flooded by the bots ;) |
| 04:06.38 | bob2 | Random_832: upgrade. dash. |
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| 04:06.38 | holycow | if i'm using knoppix to rescue another system, what do i need to do to get write access to an hd? everything i do i seem to still not have permissions to change files? |
| 04:06.38 | bob2 | Random_832: dpkg-reconfigure dash |
| 04:06.47 | Vladkao | !topicsmite holycow |
| 04:06.48 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon holycow. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 04:06.49 | debian | !tell root about root |
| 04:06.50 | beta3 | bob2: come to flood |
| 04:06.54 | debian | damn lag |
| 04:06.55 | beta3 | need some constructive criticism |
| 04:07.03 | Vladkao | holycow anyway, you need rw |
| 04:07.21 | holycow | Vladkao, hehe :) its not a knoppix q anyway, its a system admin q |
| 04:07.40 | Random_832 | you know |
| 04:07.44 | Random_832 | people used to be helpful in here |
| 04:07.50 | g4lt | holycow open up the disk casing and flip the switch |
| 04:07.50 | helix | that is an untruth |
| 04:07.51 | CrazyDemon | Alright, Ive done everything, the server is running and at first try, php files would work fine. THen I tried installing Php-GD, and not If I try to open a .php file I get the 'file not found' error |
| 04:07.51 | holycow | so it is possible to boot using a cd distro and manipulate files directly? |
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| 04:08.10 | gsp | can someone tell me how to get my CDROM to play music please? |
| 04:08.18 | fando | oh good, blackdown has a gcc3.2 jre |
| 04:08.22 | bob2 | Random_832: you're using sid. you didn't check the bts. |
| 04:08.26 | Random_832 | gsp: no, they can't... they'll just say something dumb like "put a cd in it" |
| 04:08.32 | fando | now I don't have to navigate sun's html maze |
| 04:08.41 | stew | fando: did you already dl the sun jre? |
| 04:08.52 | bob2 | holycow: of course. |
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| 04:09.01 | bob2 | holycow: you didn't mount your disk rw or you're not root. |
| 04:09.04 | dc5sd | helix: under my sources.list it says "deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main" |
| 04:09.09 | fando | stew: my present jre is unknown |
| 04:09.17 | dc5sd | helix is there suppose to be a space before the stable? |
| 04:09.26 | gsp | Random_832: thanks smartass :) |
| 04:09.29 | fando | stew: in fact, I don't know if it's there! :p |
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| 04:09.40 | helix | dc5sd: yes |
| 04:09.43 | helix | !boohoo Random_832 |
| 04:09.45 | holycow | bob *nod* i tried being root in knoppix but that still didn't help therefore i must of not mounted with rw *k* i see the error of my ways |
| 04:09.47 | holycow | thankya :) |
| 04:10.07 | gerv9 | I need to execute the line "hdparm -X66 -d1 /dev/hde" prior to the /etc/fstab mounting drives at boot. What startup files executes commands, if any, before /etc/fstab stuff gets mounted in debian? |
| 04:10.11 | bas | i wanted to be able to apt-get as a nonroot user so i made a script local-apt.. does such functionality already exist? am i crazy? ;) |
| 04:10.18 | stew | fando: might as well grab the blackdown jre then |
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| 04:10.34 | deadw8 | gerv9: you sure it needs to be before? |
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| 04:10.38 | Random_832 | helix: i'm not sad/angry, just cynical :P |
| 04:10.42 | deadw8 | put it in bootmisc.sh and it should be fine |
| 04:10.46 | dc5sd | helix: are there any other sources that i should add to my apt list |
| 04:10.49 | fando | stew: i have the jre from j2sdk1.3, which is probably not gcc3.2 compatible |
| 04:11.04 | gerv9 | deadw8: yes, they are SATA drives that don't work right until the hdparm line is executed :( |
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| 04:11.06 | helix | dc5sd: depends. do you have a regular debian source for packages? |
| 04:11.15 | Ser_SimpleS | i've been reading the manual and my question is this: my partition table is corrupt because debian woody cds dont manage to load the driver for my hard drive. I new to get in disket the apropriate hard drive driver. So do i download this: .../current/images-1.44/bf2.4/root.bin |
| 04:11.19 | deadw8 | gerv9: ahh |
| 04:11.23 | deadw8 | I've never looked at that |
| 04:11.26 | deadw8 | lemme see |
| 04:11.28 | dc5sd | helix: just the cdrom and the one i just wrote out |
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| 04:11.40 | kelt | does anyone happen to know the module(s) ATI Wonder Pro TV Tuner card uses in debian? |
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| 04:11.48 | dc5sd | helix: otherwise my source looks pretty empty |
| 04:11.53 | gerv9 | deadw8: i'm just not sure what the order of startup files is read, and where /etc/fstab falls in the sequence |
| 04:11.53 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: hard drives don't have drivers. do you mean "IDE controller"? |
| 04:11.55 | helix | dc5sd: take the cdrom one out of there, go through apt-setup |
| 04:12.02 | edison | Help when i plug my usb device i get message : usb mass storage data integrity not assured does it normal ? |
| 04:12.03 | g4lt | kelt mach64 |
| 04:12.05 | deadw8 | gerv9: you know the kernel mounts the drive itself at boot time ro right? |
| 04:12.06 | dc5sd | helix: ok |
| 04:12.12 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 yes, sorry |
| 04:12.20 | deadw8 | gerv9: it's the rw mounts that's done from /etc/fstab |
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| 04:12.35 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 even vannila doest load the controller. |
| 04:12.38 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: are you sure it actually corrupted it? |
| 04:12.42 | Mase | anyone here running deb on an ibook? |
| 04:12.44 | Ser_SimpleS | all i get is a busy device. |
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| 04:12.52 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: hah, is it a promise "raid" controller? |
| 04:12.53 | stew | Mase: why do you care? |
| 04:12.56 | bob2 | Mase: #debianppc |
| 04:12.56 | gerv9 | deadw8: interesting.. i'm not sure what's happening then. If I boot and try to mount those secondary drives without the hdparm line, the whole system crashes |
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| 04:12.59 | helix | stew: be nice |
| 04:13.12 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 no. i have xp working in this machine and i can access the partition table using fdisk. |
| 04:13.12 | dc5sd | helix: is http better or ftp |
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| 04:13.18 | Mase | stew: i didn't know there was a #debianppc :) |
| 04:13.20 | helix | dc5sd: doesn't really matter, imo |
| 04:13.29 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: what card is it? |
| 04:13.32 | gerv9 | deadw8: so my idea was basically to figure out how to change their status by "hdparm -X66 -d1" before it gets to /etc/fstab |
| 04:13.34 | bob2 | Mase: hopefully me in a month :) |
| 04:13.35 | deadw8 | I meant the kernel mounts / at bootup |
| 04:13.42 | deadw8 | these are additional drives |
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| 04:13.45 | helix | bob2: me! |
| 04:13.48 | Mase | bob2: its and interesting experience :) |
| 04:13.54 | helix | i want a laptop so badly ;( |
| 04:13.54 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 card? u mean the hard drive yes? |
| 04:13.55 | michal | hi.. is there a mechanism for turning off the cron behaviour of emailing any output of its jobs to their owner other than sending the output to /dev/null? |
| 04:13.57 | danor | stupid question, how to reboot debian? "shutdown -r now" |
| 04:14.00 | dc5sd | helix: thanx |
| 04:14.07 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: no, the IDE controller. |
| 04:14.08 | helix | dc5sd: np |
| 04:14.09 | bob2 | danor: yes |
| 04:14.14 | bob2 | michal: no |
| 04:14.18 | indes | Does anyone know what the deal with failed include paths when using php4 and apache in unstable? |
| 04:14.22 | helix | bob2: maybe |
| 04:14.24 | indes | ?? php3 |
| 04:14.24 | bob2 | Mase: did you seen branden's ibook page? |
| 04:14.26 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 nont know. how can i find that? |
| 04:14.27 | bob2 | helix: oh :( |
| 04:14.30 | helix | haha |
| 04:14.38 | gerv9 | deadw8: yes the primary IDE drive mounts fine, its the SATA ones that need that parameter... i suppose I could rig a script to do it after everything else, but would be nice to do it as part of /etc/fstab |
| 04:14.38 | danor | bob2: ncommand not found |
| 04:14.39 | deadw8 | gerv9: I don't see a clean - non-hacking rc scripts way |
| 04:14.45 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: um...isn't it your computer? I guess windows would tell you. |
| 04:14.47 | helix | danor: as root? |
| 04:14.48 | bob2 | danor: as root. |
| 04:14.51 | danor | yes |
| 04:14.52 | stew | michal: in the crontab, add 2>&1 > /dev/null at the end of the entry |
| 04:14.56 | helix | danor: as root! |
| 04:15.00 | tictac | xchat] !de.chatjunkies.org *** Message to #linuxhelp throttled due to |
| 04:15.00 | tictac | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:15.01 | danor | yes |
| 04:15.03 | Mase | bob2: link? i may have seen it already, i'm just having a few niggling issues now |
| 04:15.04 | danor | as root |
| 04:15.05 | smacnay | anyone here recommend a fax util to work with kde? |
| 04:15.10 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 just a second then. u wnat me to tell u what ide controller windows uses yes? |
| 04:15.12 | gerv9 | deadw8: that'll teach me to buy SATA drives before linux plays well with them :) |
| 04:15.13 | danor | wait, will "whereis" |
| 04:15.16 | deadw8 | but looks like /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh reads fstab in and acts on it |
| 04:15.33 | danor | I didn't have the path |
| 04:15.33 | bob2 | Mase: people.debian.org/~branden/ibook/ |
| 04:15.33 | deadw8 | gerv, maybe you don't need fstab for now |
| 04:15.35 | deadw8 | until you figure it out |
| 04:15.40 | deadw8 | do it all from your own script |
| 04:15.48 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: yes |
| 04:15.57 | deadw8 | like bootmisc.sh |
| 04:15.59 | michal | thanks |
| 04:16.00 | deadw8 | do the hdparm then the mount |
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| 04:16.27 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 well not mutch info... primary ide controler. |
| 04:16.38 | gerv9 | deadw8: i think i'll have to do it that way. since they're secondary storage its probably no big deal |
| 04:16.45 | gerv9 | deadw8: thanks for the help |
| 04:16.49 | deadw8 | gerv - that's what I'm thinking too |
| 04:16.49 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 ultra dma mode 3.... |
| 04:16.59 | deadw8 | then look at your leisure for a non-hack ;) |
| 04:17.07 | deadw8 | gerv9: sure |
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| 04:17.19 | Mase | thanks bob2 |
| 04:17.23 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 via bus master... that's all. |
| 04:17.44 | kelt | g4lt, when i do a modprobe mach64 (it says FATAL: not found) |
| 04:17.54 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: you really have no idea what sort of controller it has? can you run "lspci" under linux on it? |
| 04:18.12 | Justin_ | kelt: why are you trying to modprobe mach64 |
| 04:18.13 | protoloco | What is a thread ? |
| 04:18.16 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 sorry i cant run anything on linux (triing to install it :( ) |
| 04:18.23 | xsdg | protoloco: in what context? |
| 04:18.43 | kelt | ... Justin_ i need to know what modules to load in order to get a ATI TV Wonder Tuner card to work... |
| 04:18.51 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: can you boot the installer? you can run that command from just the installer, no linux installation neccessary |
| 04:18.56 | kelt | i thought g4lt said mach64 |
| 04:19.02 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 what ever controller it neads the cdrom with woody doest aper to have it. |
| 04:19.06 | kelt | i found something called gatos |
| 04:19.08 | protoloco | xsdg, security, Hack i think so |
| 04:19.13 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: that doesn't matter. |
| 04:19.23 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 i am sure i get what u are saying. |
| 04:19.31 | xsdg | protoloco: that doesn't help much... does it deal with an application/operating system, or mailing list, or what? |
| 04:19.36 | Ser_SimpleS | bobo2 boot the instaler? |
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| 04:19.53 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 boot the instaler? what do u mean? |
| 04:19.55 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: run the installer. hit "alt-f2" run "lspci | grep -i ide". |
| 04:19.55 | protoloco | xsdg, a mail list, and operative system. |
| 04:19.59 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: run the installer. |
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| 04:20.10 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 ok. so that's it. |
| 04:20.20 | gsp | gaim-gnome is giving me this error... any clues? |
| 04:20.22 | helix | i love installing debian |
| 04:20.25 | protoloco | xsdg, in to diferent contexts i saw it, in a mailing list, and like, some kind of attack,, the "threads" |
| 04:20.39 | xsdg | protoloco: ok... one sec while I type :o) |
| 04:20.39 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 got it. i will reboot and come with that info. |
| 04:20.42 | gsp | locale not supported by C library |
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| 04:20.55 | helix | gsp: ignore it if the program runs |
| 04:21.00 | gsp | Cannot activate a panel object |
| 04:21.02 | helix | gsp: or dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 04:21.06 | helix | i guess. |
| 04:21.08 | xsdg | protoloco: in a mailing list, a thread is a group of messages including an original message and all the replies to that message |
| 04:21.14 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 will u stick arround a bit? |
| 04:21.16 | gsp | cannont start CORBA |
| 04:21.19 | kelt | hmm |
| 04:21.24 | protoloco | xsdg, ho :) |
| 04:21.25 | g4lt | kelt kelt some kernels call it atyfb |
| 04:21.27 | gsp | and it doesn't run |
| 04:21.30 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: ok |
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| 04:21.44 | kelt | ok g4lt |
| 04:21.50 | kelt | let me try that g4lt |
| 04:22.03 | helix | have a nice day g4lt |
| 04:22.08 | helix | are you enjoying your dinner g4lt |
| 04:22.08 | xsdg | protoloco: with regards to operating systems, threads are basically bits of code that run at the same time (but are considered part of one "program") |
| 04:22.09 | gsp | what locales should be generated? |
| 04:22.23 | kelt | BlackRose:/home/kelt # modprobe atyfb |
| 04:22.23 | kelt | FATAL: Error inserting atyfb (/lib/modules/2.6.1-blackrose1/kernel/drivers/video/aty/atyfb.ko): No such device or address |
| 04:22.33 | square_ | I don't get it! gpm worked fine previously |
| 04:22.37 | thomas_adam | bob2: you about? |
| 04:22.39 | xsdg | protoloco: so, for example, if you have a program with multiple threads, it has one PID; if you kill that one PID, all the threads die |
| 04:22.44 | bob2 | thomas_adam: jah. |
| 04:23.02 | thomas_adam | bob2: what was that URI to your font config tutorial thingy? |
| 04:23.09 | thomas_adam | bob2: nice and descriptive that :) |
| 04:23.13 | bob2 | !+font guide |
| 04:23.13 | dpkg | from memory, font guide is http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt, or available in pdf and xhtml from http://mirrorlynx.com/people/dan/font-guide and for pdf http://mirrorlynx.com/people/dan/font_guide.pdf |
| 04:23.17 | thomas_adam | bob2: ah ha |
| 04:23.24 | protoloco | xsdg, heh okss :) |
| 04:23.25 | thomas_adam | ta |
| 04:23.26 | bob2 | wtf? |
| 04:23.53 | helix | hahaha |
| 04:24.02 | helix | what was wrong with txt? |
| 04:24.10 | Mase | helix: they are pretty handy |
| 04:24.12 | gsp | helix: what locales should I generate? |
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| 04:24.19 | helix | gsp: whatever ones you want |
| 04:24.42 | gsp | which ones do I need?? |
| 04:24.48 | gsp | I dont' know wtf they are!! |
| 04:24.49 | kelt | hmm |
| 04:24.49 | xsdg | gsp: your language, typically |
| 04:25.08 | xsdg | gsp: although the world would appreciate if you were to use the UTF8 version ;o) |
| 04:25.10 | helix | gsp: there is a man page |
| 04:25.18 | gsp | for gaim? |
| 04:25.25 | helix | err.. locales |
| 04:25.33 | banjo | crap missed junkyard wars |
| 04:25.42 | banjo | sorry wrong window |
| 04:25.48 | g4lt | xsdg ...at least the ones that like to exploit buffewr overflows... |
| 04:25.49 | gsp | xsdg: I think the joke went over my head... could you explain? |
| 04:25.55 | xsdg | banjo: ouch |
| 04:25.59 | indes | does anyone here know about common problems with php and apache? |
| 04:26.04 | helix | oh shit |
| 04:26.08 | helix | banjo: thanks for mentioning tv |
| 04:26.13 | De_Mon_ | how do i change a string number = '50' to a number = 50 |
| 04:26.29 | Justin_ | De_Mon_: #programminglaguage |
| 04:26.33 | g4lt | De_Mon_ ston |
| 04:26.36 | xsdg | gsp: basically, the UTF8 version of a locale interoperates better with other languages than the non-UTF8 version |
| 04:26.52 | gsp | what would happen if I just generate all of em? |
| 04:27.03 | xsdg | banjo: you can probably catch it in a few hours... it was a really good one |
| 04:27.11 | Justin_ | gsp: you would waste a lot of time and disk space |
| 04:27.23 | gsp | ok... |
| 04:27.30 | xsdg | banjo: also, check out Rides if you're into cars |
| 04:27.34 | gsp | so just do the enUTF one or whatever? |
| 04:27.37 | banjo | nah just htis loser I've tangled with on hte internet was supposed to be on |
| 04:27.47 | banjo | Wanted to watch himget schooled |
| 04:28.25 | xsdg | banjo: aah :o) |
| 04:28.30 | gsp | so just do the enUTF one or whatever? |
| 04:28.45 | gsp | oops... didn't mean to hit enter again |
| 04:28.47 | xsdg | gsp: en_US.UTF8, yeah (assuming you just speak english) |
| 04:29.16 | bob2 | sussudio: Star Trek: Enterprise in Danger of Being Cancelled |
| 04:29.21 | bob2 | PRAISE THE LORD. |
| 04:29.28 | fando | there is a god :D |
| 04:29.35 | gsp | xsdg: most of the time |
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| 04:29.48 | proximacnt | Wow, there's still Star Trek on TV? |
| 04:30.01 | gsp | ok... that fixed the locale problem... |
| 04:30.12 | gsp | how about Cannot activate a panel object |
| 04:30.14 | proximacnt | Funny, I stopped watching for other reasons, but the returns on that decision just keep coming |
| 04:30.20 | gsp | and Cannot start CORBA |
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| 04:30.32 | xsdg | proximacnt: rofl |
| 04:30.44 | Xenguy | caphuso: the solution for my ssh-agent question: just use 'keychain' -- works very nicely |
| 04:30.49 | xsdg | gsp: I'd say stop using GNOME and use something more reasonable, like xfce4 |
| 04:30.55 | xsdg | gsp: that's up to you, though :o) |
| 04:31.08 | gsp | well... WTF is CORBA |
| 04:31.20 | gsp | and wtf is a panel object? |
| 04:31.28 | proximacnt | gsp: It's not the same as kparts |
| 04:31.36 | gsp | I'm actually using KDE but what is xfce 4? |
| 04:31.41 | dc5sd | Can someone help me fix xwindows? |
| 04:31.44 | dc5sd | it won't start up |
| 04:31.48 | xsdg | aah... kde... don't use that either |
| 04:31.49 | gboutwel | Are there any 'logs' kept of an make-kpgk session? I'm not getting a bootable kernel and I saw some "warnings/errors" about skipping module such and such, cause of loop. Wanted to look more closely at what was going on during the build. |
| 04:31.54 | xsdg | gsp: apt-cache search xfce4 |
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| 04:31.57 | xsdg | gsp: or xfce.org |
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| 04:32.16 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 i think u will like to know taht lspci is not found in the boot. |
| 04:32.31 | p0q | hi, anybody same me: volume auto set with defaut value? (with xmms) |
| 04:32.55 | gsp | Thank God for Broadband... |
| 04:32.57 | dc5sd | when i try to startx it tells me that its unable to connect to X server |
| 04:33.04 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 i use cat /proc/pci|grep -i ide and came this: Via VT 820586 apollo ide (rev 6) under the compact instalation. |
| 04:33.16 | gsp | 347kB/s from ftp.us.debain.org :o) |
| 04:33.30 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: did you try bf2.4 yet? |
| 04:33.38 | xsdg | gsp: nice |
| 04:33.43 | gsp | is there a display manager for it? like gdm? |
| 04:33.50 | edison | Help i try to reinstall gnome-panel it's still not work how can i remove it and then reinstall it proprely |
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| 04:33.54 | Xenguy | dc5sd: consider this your linux initiation ;-) You have to keep re-configuring X until it works |
| 04:33.57 | beta3 | the whole point of me converting the font guide to latex, is so you had a nice printable copy to work from :) |
| 04:34.00 | gsp | and how do I change the defuld display manager? |
| 04:34.05 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 that is the one i wanted. The instalation fails there too. i think is the same driver doe. |
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| 04:34.20 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 controller... sorry |
| 04:34.34 | xsdg | gsp: you can use xfce with gdm |
| 04:34.35 | gsp | raise your hand if your tired of answering my questions |
| 04:34.38 | gsp | ok |
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| 04:34.50 | gsp | will gdm recognize it right away? |
| 04:34.58 | dade_overide | I need help with debain |
| 04:35.01 | xsdg | gsp: probably not |
| 04:35.05 | xsdg | ~tell dade_overide about sicco |
| 04:35.12 | gsp | how do I find it? |
| 04:35.12 | dade_overide | I just got it installed and I cant figure out |
| 04:35.18 | dade_overide | how to boot to command line |
| 04:35.18 | proximacnt | I'm having trouble printing to my HP 2100tn via cups (sid) after not having any trouble for a long time |
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| 04:35.27 | xsdg | gsp: err... maybe... |
| 04:35.30 | the1 | how do I set X to not start automatically (I want my comp to start into the command line and if I want X I can do startx). |
| 04:35.32 | the1 | ? |
| 04:35.35 | gsp | we'll see.... brb |
| 04:35.51 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 in the instalation i cames to that part where it asks for a floppy to load the controler. i belive no instalation controler works and that i should deliver one in a disk. This is what i understod in the manual. I just cant understand where to get that new controler. |
| 04:35.52 | xsdg | the1: remove {x,k,g}dm |
| 04:35.53 | Xenguy | dade_overide: do you have a (root) prompt ? |
| 04:35.53 | p0q | didn't you use xmms? |
| 04:36.01 | gboutwel | Are there any logs or the like kept of the make process done when doing an make-kpkg kernel_image? |
| 04:36.01 | dade_overide | no |
| 04:36.07 | dade_overide | it goes strait into xwindows |
| 04:36.09 | xsdg | proximacnt: anything in the logs? |
| 04:36.14 | proximacnt | What I see when enabling debug log output is a constant stream of ReadClient() to CloseClient messages |
| 04:36.16 | dade_overide | I tried changing the runlevel |
| 04:36.21 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: are you sure you can't see your disks with bf2.4? |
| 04:36.21 | dade_overide | but that dont work |
| 04:36.21 | Xenguy | dade_overide: you're the 3rd I've seen tonight ;-) |
| 04:36.26 | the1 | xsdg...when I try to atp-get remove xdm (my only disply manager) debian apt wants to get rid of x-window-system! |
| 04:36.27 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: how newis this computer? |
| 04:36.29 | Shorty- | Jan 21 06:00:12 sabotage kernel: hde: status timeout: status=0x80 { Busy } |
| 04:36.30 | Shorty- | Jan 21 06:00:12 sabotage kernel: hde: drive not ready for command |
| 04:36.30 | Shorty- | Jan 21 06:00:12 sabotage kernel: hde: status timeout: status=0x80 { Busy } |
| 04:36.30 | Shorty- | Jan 21 06:00:12 sabotage kernel: hde: drive not ready for command |
| 04:36.30 | Shorty- | Jan 21 06:00:17 sabotage kernel: hde: status timeout: status=0x80 { Busy } |
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| 04:36.34 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 possitive. |
| 04:36.36 | Shorty- | argh |
| 04:36.38 | Shorty- | I thoguht I only got 3 then |
| 04:36.50 | xsdg | the1: that's fine; x-window-system is a virtual package that makes sure everything gets installed |
| 04:36.50 | Shorty- | that usually means the disk is fucked, or getting there? |
| 04:36.54 | dade_overide | Xenguy: do you know how to fix it |
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| 04:36.58 | proximacnt | Most have a code of 7, but occassionally a code 9 one pops up |
| 04:37.00 | gsp | It worked! |
| 04:37.05 | xsdg | gsp: cool |
| 04:37.18 | proximacnt | then finally an error regarding connection being reset by peer (my printer) |
| 04:37.18 | xsdg | Shorty-: could be another hardware issue (cable?) |
| 04:37.19 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 i used to have debian working on it and i lost my debian instalation after changing the windows from 98 to xp.it's not a new computer is a p3 |
| 04:37.31 | Shorty- | xsdg: I did think that.. ;) |
| 04:37.40 | the1 | xsdg: Ok....here goes nuttin |
| 04:37.41 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 all i needed last time has to chosse bf24... that has all. |
| 04:37.44 | bob2 | Shorty-: your disk is fucked |
| 04:37.48 | xsdg | proximacnt: is the printer connected to your computer, or are you connecting to another server? |
| 04:37.48 | Shorty- | I might swap it on another cable, when the new hdd gets here tommorow |
| 04:37.56 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2... how bad? |
| 04:37.57 | bob2 | Shorty-: oh, or cable |
| 04:38.01 | Xenguy | dade_overide: you need to kill the {xkg}dm's... |
| 04:38.05 | Shorty- | bob2: it seems to only do it randomly |
| 04:38.07 | proximacnt | xsdg: It's a network printer on it's on jetdirect card; I'm printing to it over a wireless link |
| 04:38.07 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: a p3? |
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| 04:38.13 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: that should definitely work |
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| 04:38.16 | xsdg | proximacnt: hrm... can you ping it? |
| 04:38.17 | proximacnt | xsdg: using the socket cups driver |
| 04:38.28 | proximacnt | xsdg: Yeah, and browse to it's admin webpage |
| 04:38.29 | Xenguy | dade_overide: you could try a boot disk, or a rescue disk, or knoppix |
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| 04:38.39 | gsp | this is cooler |
| 04:38.44 | xsdg | proximacnt: recently upgrade or anything? |
| 04:38.45 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 pIII, i have had a few lost clusters under windows... how came do u came to the conclusion my disk is so bad? |
| 04:38.50 | xsdg | gsp: I like it alot |
| 04:38.51 | dc5sd | Xenguy: can u give me a tip on how to reconfigure it please |
| 04:38.54 | proximacnt | xsdg: In most cases it will print after a while, but in many cases the job just goes away |
| 04:38.59 | Xenguy | dade_overide: you want to get root and -> apt-get remove {xgk}dm |
| 04:39.00 | xsdg | gsp: also, it doesn't eat as much memory as those other monsters :o) |
| 04:39.04 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: I said nothing about your disk. |
| 04:39.10 | dade_overide | I want root |
| 04:39.10 | the1 | heh someone needs to find a way to hack the firmware of jetdirects....every netblock I scann has unpassworded telnet on a jetdirect ip enabled printer. |
| 04:39.11 | proximacnt | The "busy" LED on the printer always comes on, as if it's going to print, but nothing happens |
| 04:39.13 | Ser_SimpleS | <bob2> Shorty-: your disk is fucked |
| 04:39.15 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: maybe try the sarge installer? /msg dpkg d-i backup |
| 04:39.19 | xsdg | proximacnt: weird |
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| 04:39.20 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: is your nick Shorty- ? |
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| 04:39.28 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 sorry |
| 04:39.31 | sussudio | the1: couple of years late with your suggestion. |
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| 04:39.50 | Xenguy | dc5sd: there's a factoid that describes configuring X AFAIK... |
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| 04:39.56 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 sarge? download all of it? |
| 04:40.03 | dc5sd | Xenguy: factoid? |
| 04:40.06 | zic | please, when i switch my X to 640x480(from 800x600).. the screen is bigger my monitor.. i think it is a virtual screen. how do i remove it? |
| 04:40.07 | the1 | sussudio: someone did it? |
| 04:40.19 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 the partion table... if i delete the linux partitions should it work? |
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| 04:40.31 | xsdg | zic: whenever you go from a larger to a smaller resolution, that will happen |
| 04:40.34 | Xenguy | dc5sd: I'm trying to find it (a bot response, set of instructions) |
| 04:40.39 | the1 | sussudio: cuz there are still plenty of telnetd's open to the world |
| 04:40.40 | sussudio | the1: they're hackable and you can lock them up with a DoS |
| 04:40.47 | xsdg | zic: (well... excluding magical XRandR stuff) |
| 04:41.13 | zic | xsdg : how can i enable XRandR.. when i use it. it says 0:0 do not support XRandr |
| 04:41.23 | dc5sd | Xenguy: thank you |
| 04:41.27 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: that's take a step back. why do you think the installer doesn't know about your disk? |
| 04:41.53 | Justin_ | zic: use x4.3 |
| 04:41.58 | Xenguy | dc5sd: hrm, are you able to "hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console" ? |
| 04:41.59 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 have no clue. I think it has to do with XP. |
| 04:42.01 | the1 | sussuido: I know you can DoS 'em...hell old cisco catilist switches had an unpassworded by default telnetd you could DoS the thing with....what would be cool is if you could upload your own firmware....and telnet out or . . . |
| 04:42.02 | xsdg | zic: the window manager has to support it... I dunno which ones do other than a modified version of ION and some other familar(.handhelds.org) ones |
| 04:42.34 | zic | xsdg : thx.. |
| 04:42.43 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 i made a fdisk /mbr and altered the partition table prior to the instaltion of XP. could that be the reason? |
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| 04:42.47 | xsdg | zic: or you could try what Justin_ suggested... I'm not sure |
| 04:42.49 | the1 | I removed xdm and it's still trying to run X! |
| 04:42.55 | dc5sd | Xenguy yes |
| 04:43.00 | the1 | i think i need to edit some script init calls |
| 04:43.09 | dc5sd | xenguy im in console mode right now |
| 04:43.11 | xsdg | the1: no... one sec |
| 04:43.19 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: no, stop. what doesn't work during the install? |
| 04:43.44 | Xenguy | dc5sd: sorry it's late (I confused you with the "I want to disable {xgk}dm" crowd) |
| 04:43.46 | zic | xsdg : okay. i'll try.. thx |
| 04:43.49 | xsdg | the1: try `dpkg -l '?dm'` and paste the output in #flood please (or the bottom lines here, if there are fewer than 3) |
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| 04:44.15 | dc5sd | xenguy: its ok, im sorry to bother u with newbie questions |
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| 04:44.34 | gsp | xsdg: running your pretty desktop now... but still getting the error from GAIM |
| 04:44.35 | dc5sd | xenguy it took me a week just to get my networking up, and now i have another issue |
| 04:44.39 | Xenguy | dc5sd: I'm still trying to find that factoid about re-configuring X |
| 04:44.42 | gsp | Cannot activate a panel object |
| 04:44.42 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 activatin swap (exist allready). partiion hard drive... it says before the instalation program that it can find a controller for the hda. |
| 04:44.47 | gsp | Cannot start CORBA |
| 04:44.52 | gsp | please help! |
| 04:45.11 | xsdg | gsp: hrm... have you tried upgrading Gaim? (however, those messages can probably be ignored) |
| 04:45.18 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 the instalation program and the stuff before it simply cant read from the hda |
| 04:45.33 | dc5sd | xenguy: take your time, im installing BitchX right now :) |
| 04:45.36 | fando | stew: my problem was the existance of both mozilla and mozilla-firebird |
| 04:45.53 | Xenguy | dc5sd: install irsii instead :-) |
| 04:46.06 | gsp | xsdg: those messages would most deifnately be ingored if the damned thing worked... and yes... tried the upgrade |
| 04:46.18 | dc5sd | Xenguy: oh is that better |
| 04:46.20 | the1 | xsdg: starting x fscks things up...the only way I actually get a real display is by hitting ctrl-c or ctrl-x or ctrl-z as fast as I can as the machine boots up....of corse my network doesn't configure....my whole configuration is broken....but at least I get a display |
| 04:46.20 | xsdg | gsp: aah... weird... |
| 04:46.22 | fando | is mozilla-firebird deprecated now? |
| 04:46.30 | Xenguy | dc5sd: most definitely |
| 04:46.34 | xsdg | fando: no |
| 04:46.38 | dc5sd | Xenguy: ok getting that now |
| 04:46.41 | xsdg | fando: not that I know of, that is; why? |
| 04:46.47 | fando | man, it caused me confusion |
| 04:46.49 | gsp | Xenguy: pardon my french |
| 04:46.50 | Xenguy | dc5sd: actually you want irssi-text |
| 04:46.52 | xsdg | gsp: hrm... tried reinstalling? |
| 04:46.56 | gsp | yep |
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| 04:47.10 | xsdg | gsp: maybe check the BTS |
| 04:47.13 | fando | i couldn't get java plugin to work, but that's because i was messing with mozilla and not mozilla-firebird |
| 04:47.17 | the1 | xsdg: I can crtl-alt-del and reboot, but I can't ctrl-alt-backspace and kill x |
| 04:47.18 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 so i think i must make a way to install a controler... some how... or find a way to make the install program to read the partition table, |
| 04:47.20 | gsp | xsdg: WTF? |
| 04:47.26 | xsdg | ~tell gsp about bts |
| 04:47.30 | gsp | xsdg: and what is CORBA? |
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| 04:47.35 | dc5sd | Xenguy: is there an easy way to delete a directory full of items without having to go through each subdirectory and emptying them out |
| 04:47.38 | stew | fando: they should be able to coexist, i'll test it |
| 04:47.46 | fando | stew: they do nicely :) |
| 04:48.02 | xsdg | gsp: I'm not quite sure... maybe check in #gaim? |
| 04:48.03 | Xenguy | !tell dc5sd about configure xf4 |
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| 04:48.30 | zignig | flash |
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| 04:48.35 | j2j2 | Anybody know if FAT32 support still _alpha_ (I'm running Woody, 2.2.2 Kernel)? |
| 04:48.36 | Xenguy | dc5sd: rm -rf <dir> |
| 04:48.40 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 also under the manual, all i read about the stuff at the BIOS that must be done, i belive i did... |
| 04:48.42 | stew | fando: oh ok, i just realized what you were saying |
| 04:48.42 | Xenguy | dc5sd: careful |
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| 04:48.50 | xsdg | j2j2: 2.2.2?!?! |
| 04:49.26 | dc5sd | Xenguy: ok :) |
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| 04:49.26 | j2j2 | Ykes - yes! |
| 04:49.26 | Xenguy | dc5sd: there's no 'undo' ;-) |
| 04:49.26 | Ser_SimpleS | any one else had a partition problem before? |
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| 04:49.26 | fando | stew: thanks for the help anyway, at least i have java 1.4 now :p |
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| 04:49.27 | Xenguy | dc5sd: you got the factoid? |
| 04:49.28 | dc5sd | Xenguy: dammit there's no trash can? :-P |
| 04:49.30 | the1 | xsdg: I can't paist the output |
| 04:49.35 | xsdg | j2j2: no clue |
| 04:49.41 | Zak- | I was wondering if there is a program/app that makes a virtual drive when you're ssh-ed or ftp? |
| 04:49.43 | xsdg | the1: what are the first two letters in each column? |
| 04:49.43 | the1 | xsdg: but it looks like xdm is still installed |
| 04:49.44 | Xenguy | dc5sd: this is *nix :-) |
| 04:49.52 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 no clue? |
| 04:49.56 | xsdg | the1: how did you uninstall xdm? |
| 04:49.59 | j2j2 | xsdg: thanks anyways! |
| 04:50.03 | dc5sd | Xenguy hehe |
| 04:50.08 | xsdg | j2j2: sorry... I'm appalled 8) |
| 04:50.09 | the1 | un for all dms except xmd...xdm has rF |
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| 04:50.26 | the1 | xsdf: I did apt-get remove xdm |
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| 04:50.49 | xsdg | the1: hrm... try dpkg --purge xdm |
| 04:50.54 | Zak- | does anybody know of virtual drives through ssh/ftp? |
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| 04:51.03 | dc5sd | Xenguy: yeap, its from dpkg right |
| 04:51.04 | Zak- | I want to use a local program to edit a remote file |
| 04:51.15 | Xenguy | dc5sd: yes (or apt) |
| 04:51.27 | dc5sd | Xenguy: haven't read it though, working on getting the irc |
| 04:51.42 | Xenguy | Zak-: what editor do you use? |
| 04:51.45 | xsdg | Zak-: GNOME-VFS can do FTP... dunno about ssh |
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| 04:51.53 | Zak- | UltraEdit, I like it ^_^ |
| 04:51.54 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: don't /msg me |
| 04:52.07 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 ok. sorry |
| 04:52.07 | the1 | xsdg: sory...my hitting of crtl-z/c/x must have screwed things up too much...I have a read only file system and I can't use pat or dpgk any more |
| 04:52.09 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: try asking on debian-user, /msg dpkg d-u |
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| 04:52.22 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 what's this: msg dpkg d-u |
| 04:52.29 | xsdg | the1: try doing that from single-user mode then |
| 04:52.41 | dc5sd | Xenguy: oh kewl i can apt-get install irssi-text |
| 04:52.45 | Xenguy | Zak-: check out glimmer when you get a chance (not sure how close to UE it is yet, but at least it's not D0ze) |
| 04:52.49 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 debian-user is a channel? |
| 04:52.50 | Xenguy | dc5sd: natch |
| 04:52.50 | dc5sd | Xenguy makes things alot easier for me :-P |
| 04:52.59 | the1 | xsdg: now I can't even type and get output (I am on this channel from another computer via a kvm switch) |
| 04:53.04 | dc5sd | Xenguy: natch? |
| 04:53.07 | Xenguy | dc5sd: I always use packages/DEBs |
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| 04:53.15 | Xenguy | dc5sd: = naturally |
| 04:53.17 | gsp | anyone else having trouble with gaim? |
| 04:53.21 | xsdg | the1: I'd say reboot and try messing with it from single-user mode |
| 04:53.32 | owner | hmm .. i'm stuck in firebird's , auto find as i type thingy again .. a few hrs ago , i Esc to get out and it worked fine .. i guess now i'm stuck in it and can't get out . .anyone ? |
| 04:53.33 | gsp | it keeps dumping out on me when I try to log in a Yahoo! name |
| 04:53.33 | silas | Where can I get more fonts for wine? |
| 04:53.35 | the1 | xsdg: how do I get in single user mode with no bootloader (I am on sgi mips...the bios can load the kernel) |
| 04:53.39 | edison | Help i have gnome 1.4 and in the task bar i have many panel icone and if i reduce the application i can't found it in the task bar, witch gnome package i miss ? |
| 04:53.40 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: a mailing list. or maybe debian-user-portugese |
| 04:53.46 | xsdg | gsp: not here... I don't use Yahoo, though |
| 04:53.59 | xsdg | the1: wow |
| 04:53.59 | dc5sd | Xenguy: nice :) |
| 04:54.04 | the1 | xsdg: there is a mips bootloader (archboot) for debian...but I don't have it installed |
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| 04:54.08 | xsdg | the1: but I don't know |
| 04:54.18 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 thanks. how did u know i am portuguese? |
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| 04:54.27 | Xenguy | dc5sd: irssi takes awhile to appreciate - stick with it, you'll see :-) |
| 04:54.34 | dho | how do i switch between window managers, gnome and kde for example |
| 04:54.46 | zeeble | if i have n1,n2,n3 repositories in my sources.list, how do i get apt-search to return the search limited to packages from repository n1? |
| 04:55.09 | Xenguy | dc5sd: use Esc-1, Esc-2 etc. to switch between windows |
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| 04:55.39 | the1 | xsdg: I'm gonna boot from a bootp image that my DHCP server can load on the mips box...It will get me the debian installer...from there i can mount the disk and edit any files...tell me what to do to disable X without uninstalling it. |
| 04:55.40 | Deathwind | I use UE-32 on my Windows machines, I used to like glimmer, but now I'm digging Kate |
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| 04:55.55 | dc5sd | Xenguy: okie dokie, i am going through the beginners how-to right now |
| 04:55.59 | bob2 | Ser_SimpleS: /whois Ser_SimpleS |
| 04:56.00 | edison | Help i have gnome 1.4 and in the task bar i have many panel icone and if i reduce the application i can't found it in the task bar, witch gnome package i miss, i have that problem because i downgrade gnome version because the 2.0 did not work |
| 04:56.01 | pmitros | I'm not trying to get a release date, but I'm wondering roughly what order of magnitude timeframe there will be a new stable Debian in? Is the development tree in active development, or is it preparing for feature freeze, or is it in feature freeze, or |
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| 04:56.06 | pmitros | whereabouts is it? |
| 04:56.22 | zeeble | dho create a .xsession in your home directory. for gnome, put gnome-session or startkde. and then do startx |
| 04:56.28 | Xenguy | Deathwind: Kate is similar to UE then? |
| 04:56.35 | pmitros | (I need to reinstall Debian on a box within the next few months, and I'm trying to figure out whether it's worth waiting) |
| 04:56.42 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 thanks. i will do that after i clean the partitions of linux and go from there. |
| 04:56.47 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 thanks for your time. |
| 04:56.49 | dho | zeeble: thats it? |
| 04:57.04 | zeeble | dho yeah. |
| 04:57.07 | dho | thanks |
| 04:57.20 | xsdg | the1: hrm... |
| 04:57.20 | DeadManWalking | i get a "** CRITICAL **: Unable to open display" when i try to run on a terminal a X program (such as XMMS) as root. How can i avoid that ? (i used to do that all the time.. weird..) |
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| 04:57.38 | mith | man xhost |
| 04:57.44 | DeadManWalking | k |
| 04:57.45 | pmitros | deadman: xhost +local: |
| 04:57.47 | The_Vulture | ~tell DeadManWalking about sshx |
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| 04:57.56 | sussudio | !mith mith |
| 04:57.58 | xsdg | the1: huh? |
| 04:58.08 | xsdg | err |
| 04:58.09 | pmitros | deadman: Or ssh -X localhost |
| 04:58.21 | xsdg | pmitros: that's just freaky |
| 04:58.29 | Deathwind | Xenguy: not especially similar to UE (in that it eschews tabs), it's just powerful like UE...plus it has some rather nice features that I haven't seen in other editors (collapsible code blocks, etc.)...that and it seems more "polished" than glimmer |
| 04:58.33 | pmitros | deadman: With ssh configured to allow root logins. Actually, that's a bad idea. |
| 04:58.33 | DeadManWalking | thanx |
| 04:58.49 | the1 | xsdg: I can't seem to enter the setup at startup....fscking kvm....just gime a sec |
| 04:58.50 | Xenguy | Deathwind: IC |
| 04:59.07 | pmitros | xsdg: I've done that before. I had multiple user accounts, and didn't want the blanket xhost +local: |
| 04:59.11 | pmitros | xsdg: It works well. |
| 04:59.42 | xsdg | the1: you could move /etc/XF86Config-4 to /var/tmp or something (warning: don't put it in /tmp :o) |
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| 05:00.15 | the1 | actually my config file is /etc/X11/SF86Config-4 |
| 05:00.24 | the1 | *X |
| 05:00.30 | the1 | not X |
| 05:00.33 | the1 | *aggg |
| 05:00.34 | the1 | not X |
| 05:00.36 | the1 | agg |
| 05:00.39 | the1 | not S |
| 05:00.44 | the1 | why can't I type? |
| 05:00.51 | xsdg | the1: my bad... that's what I meant |
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| 05:00.54 | dc5sd | Xenguy: im kinda lost on the how-to section, how do i set my user name |
| 05:01.09 | Xenguy | dc5sd: in irc? |
| 05:01.16 | dc5sd | Xenguy: yea |
| 05:01.18 | xsdg | the1: moving it may prevent the X-server from starting (however, I seem to recall that some can run without a config, just using default options) |
| 05:01.29 | pmitros | So... Anyone know what state Debian development is in? |
| 05:01.34 | dc5sd | Xenguy: im too spoiled with windows where i just fill in the blanks :-P |
| 05:01.49 | xsdg | pmitros: "debian development"? |
| 05:02.23 | Xenguy | dc5sd: it's typically done with environmental variables - so, e.g., in ~/.bash_profile you would set... |
| 05:02.24 | pmitros | xsdg: The unstable tree. Is it in active development (years to release), preparing for feature freeze, feature freeze, gettin ready to ship? |
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| 05:02.36 | pmitros | xsdg: I'm trying to get an eyeball estimate of when it ships. |
| 05:02.39 | xsdg | pmitros: if you mean testing, who knows |
| 05:02.39 | bob2 | pmitros: unstable is always under active development |
| 05:02.50 | pmitros | xsdg: I guess I do mean testing. |
| 05:02.51 | xsdg | bob2: what factoid has the pool again? |
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| 05:03.07 | bob2 | hm, dunno |
| 05:03.24 | sussudio | xsdg: it's a pool about sarge. |
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| 05:03.32 | dc5sd | Xenguy: oh you don't set it within irssi itself? |
| 05:03.37 | xsdg | sussudio: I know... testing... |
| 05:03.44 | sussudio | !+sarge pool |
| 05:03.44 | dpkg | Place your bets on when sarge will become stable! helix=2004-03-27 sharth=2004-03-03 croddy=2004-02-14 ghakko=2004-04-20 CompWizrd=103-12-25 deadcat=2005-08-16 beta3=2004-04-15 peterS=2004-05-01 gnupg=2004-01-01 DelEat=2004-04-02 nevyn=2004-03-20 Shay=2004-03-28 streuner=2004-02-29 greycat=2004-03-01 Justin_=WIR simonrvn=2004-03-15 rw-rw-r--=2004-04-22 Jawoota=2004-02-01, or Anthro=2004-03-21, or see "sarge bet" for how to add yours |
| 05:03.49 | sussudio | :-P |
| 05:03.49 | the1 | wtf makes it start in the fist place?...has to be something init calls |
| 05:03.50 | Deathwind | Xenguy: http://www.duke.edu/~java32/editor.png there's a screenshot I made of Kate a few days ago, if you're interested |
| 05:03.55 | pmitros | xsdg: I need to reinstall Debian on my notebook, and if it's about to ship (next 6 months or so), I'll wait for it. |
| 05:04.06 | Xenguy | dc5sd: IRCNAME='name' and IRCNICK='Nick' ... then 'export' these e.g. -> export IRCNAME IRCNICK |
| 05:04.08 | pmitros | Hmm. Thanks. |
| 05:04.10 | PlsHelp | whats the most widely used,whether for personal or corporate,linux distro now??anyone? |
| 05:04.13 | Xenguy | dc5sd: does that make sense? |
| 05:04.14 | pmitros | That looks to be soon. |
| 05:04.17 | xsdg | pmitros: those are all guesses :o) |
| 05:04.19 | the1 | dead rat |
| 05:04.23 | bob2 | pmitros: haha ship. sarge will release when it's ready, almost certaainly less than six months. |
| 05:04.25 | xsdg | pmitros: pmitros technically, WIR :o) |
| 05:04.34 | bob2 | pmitros: you can of course install sarge right now if you want to. |
| 05:04.58 | dc5sd | Xenguy: sort of, let me try it out |
| 05:05.03 | xsdg | the1: typically, X doesn't start on boot unless a display manager fires it up |
| 05:05.07 | Xenguy | Deathwind: looks nice enough |
| 05:05.12 | pmitros | bob: Err... I'm not a very bleeding edge kinda guy. I'll install when the Debian team says it's stable, and maybe give it another month or two, just to be sure. |
| 05:05.20 | the1 | xsdg: well...what calls the display manager? |
| 05:05.47 | Xenguy | dc5sd: you may need to 'source ~/.bash_profile' also before the new settings take effect |
| 05:05.47 | xsdg | the1: it would be in /etc/init.d/rc?.d |
| 05:05.56 | xsdg | the1: that's taken care of (usually) by uninstalling, though |
| 05:06.09 | the1 | xsdg: btw...i think xdm wasn't removed because i was running x...so when xdm was killed.....the apt-get remove was killed too in the middle of the uninstall |
| 05:06.16 | xsdg | the1: although only partially uninstalling xdm (as opposed to purging) might cause it to do that |
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| 05:06.29 | xsdg | the1: hrm... |
| 05:07.02 | edison | Help witch package is used to iconify reduced window in the task bar ? |
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| 05:07.12 | dc5sd | Xenguy: ummm, stupid question, how do i exit irssi |
| 05:07.21 | Xenguy | dc5sd: /quit |
| 05:07.32 | dc5sd | Xenguy: doh i forgot the slash |
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| 05:07.38 | Xenguy | :-) |
| 05:07.44 | dc5sd | Xenguy: thanx for being patient with me |
| 05:07.53 | Xenguy | dc5sd: np |
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| 05:08.07 | evane|work | anyone by chance experiment with the d-i xfs installer from here? http://people.debian.org/~vorlon/d-i/xfs/ for some reason it is not given me xfs in the selection option curious if anyone else tryed it out and had same issue |
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| 05:08.50 | edison | Help witch package is used to iconify reduced window in the task bar with gnome ? |
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| 05:10.15 | prajm | lol |
| 05:10.16 | prajm | :] |
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| 05:12.14 | Stormrider | Wow.....quite a few people in here |
| 05:12.39 | Stormrider | Anyone want to help a new linux user set up knoppix on a hd? |
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| 05:12.48 | xsdg | look |
| 05:12.55 | xsdg | err |
| 05:12.56 | stew | Stormrider: someone in #knoppix maybe |
| 05:13.05 | Stormrider | ahh, thank you very much |
| 05:13.16 | dc5sd | Xenguy: can i message you privately please, too much spam |
| 05:13.50 | Deathwind | Stormrider: knx-hdinstall, it should be pretty self-explanatory from there |
| 05:13.57 | Stormrider | I did |
| 05:14.04 | Stormrider | and when I reboot without a cd |
| 05:14.12 | Stormrider | I get |
| 05:14.16 | Stormrider | L 07 |
| 05:14.22 | sussudio | !tell Stormrider about enter |
| 05:14.27 | Stormrider | then it keeps adding 07 |
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| 05:14.45 | gsp | is there an unstable version of security.debian.org? |
| 05:14.51 | zeeble | gsp: no |
| 05:15.00 | sussudio | !rididule gsp |
| 05:15.04 | Xenguy | dc5sd: sure |
| 05:15.05 | sussudio | meh. |
| 05:15.13 | zeeble | Stormrider: that's a lilo error. what options did you set for lilo? |
| 05:15.13 | gsp | so... what do I use if I'm using unstable? |
| 05:15.18 | The_Vulture | gsp: unstable |
| 05:15.28 | zeeble | gsp: you dont. unstable does'nt have a security guarantee |
| 05:15.32 | Stormrider | I didn't set anything for it I don't belive |
| 05:15.37 | sussudio | !cluebat gsp |
| 05:15.38 | gsp | so I rem that line? |
| 05:15.42 | mark_ | hi |
| 05:15.42 | mark_ | how come i recompiled my 2.4 kernel and turned the apm support otion on however when i boot the kernel my apm is still not working |
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| 05:15.53 | evane|work | gsp: unstable gets security updates via the main packages |
| 05:16.02 | gsp | thanks for the straight answer |
| 05:16.16 | gsp | I didn't know what to do with that line in the sources.list |
| 05:16.23 | evane|work | comment it out |
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| 05:16.27 | zeeble | gsp: just comment it out |
| 05:16.30 | Stormrider | I set all the defaults |
| 05:16.46 | Stormrider | well, other than having it load the mail server at start |
| 05:16.54 | zeeble | Stormrider: then maybe lilo installer to first partition instead of the mbr |
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| 05:17.09 | Stormrider | How would I go about that? |
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| 05:17.47 | evane|work | sigh so much for getting to try this d-i xfs installer... i need to get cdrw's waste way too many cdr's doing this crap |
| 05:17.52 | Stormrider | Rerun knx-hdinstall? |
| 05:18.06 | evane|work | Stormrider: reboot into knoppix |
| 05:18.06 | evane|work | chroot the install |
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| 05:18.06 | zeeble | Stormrider: you would boot using the rescue mode, or since you have the knoppix CD, boot from it. mount the / as rw. and edit your lilo.conf settings.and intall lilo to mbr |
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| 05:18.12 | evane|work | the rerun lilo |
| 05:18.42 | Stormrider | I'm booting into knoppix from the cd right now |
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| 05:18.54 | sussudio | Stormrider: what part of 'bugger off to #knoppix' don't you understand? |
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| 05:19.12 | xerophyte | When i start X-Windows i get error saying no screen is configurable how can i fix this? |
| 05:19.17 | Stormrider | I did, but someone tried to help me here... |
| 05:19.23 | hanasaki | how do i find which chip module to install for the thermal and i2c stuff for my soyo kt600 dragon ultra? |
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| 05:19.43 | sussudio | hanasaki: RTFM. |
| 05:19.47 | Stormrider | and noone has said anything in knoppix in some time |
| 05:19.57 | hanasaki | sussudio: i did.. several times |
| 05:20.01 | sussudio | hanasaki: liar |
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| 05:20.08 | hanasaki | i take it you have one? |
| 05:20.18 | evane|work | goto the i2c site, they have pretty detail directions on the setup there.... one sec lemme grab a link... you mobo may not be supported at the moment |
| 05:20.18 | sussudio | hanasaki: i'm ignoring you now. |
| 05:20.22 | hanasaki | ok |
| 05:20.24 | hanasaki | good plan |
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| 05:20.51 | cafuego | hanasaki: run the 'sensors-detect' script |
| 05:20.53 | cappicard | Al Sharpton: Don King with better-looking hair! :) |
| 05:21.01 | sussudio | cafuego: like it says in the FM |
| 05:21.02 | BlackRose | i'm trying to get an ATI Wonder Pro TV Tuner card to work... i've downloaded gatos and i went to the website (it said to intall drmkernel and ati.2...) however drmkernel has an error in it... it seems. any one have any ideas on how i can get this tv tuner card to work? |
| 05:21.02 | hanasaki | hm thanks |
| 05:21.07 | cafuego | sussudio: indeed |
| 05:21.19 | sussudio | cafuego: vies goor leugenaartje, die hanasaki |
| 05:21.29 | cafuego | sussudio: inderdaad |
| 05:21.30 | gsp | are sid and unstable the same thing? |
| 05:21.32 | cappicard | BlackRose: My ATI TV Wonder VE works just fine |
| 05:21.35 | cafuego | gsp: yes |
| 05:21.39 | gsp | IC |
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| 05:21.54 | cappicard | just make sure you have tuner and bttv modules built for your kernel |
| 05:21.58 | gsp | damn... any other distros out there? |
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| 05:22.07 | zeeble | gsp: huh? |
| 05:22.13 | gsp | other than stable and unstable? |
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| 05:22.16 | Xenguy | gsp: a million - all inferior ;-) |
| 05:22.24 | zeeble | gsp stable, unstable, testing |
| 05:22.26 | gsp | I just wanna try new stuff... |
| 05:22.27 | Stormrider | zeeble, where do I find the lilo cfg file? |
| 05:22.32 | cappicard | and when you insert the tuner module, you must use type=2 or you'll get b/w with the channels being one off |
| 05:22.34 | stew | gsp: there is testing which is in between stable and unstable |
| 05:22.36 | zeeble | Stormrider: /etc/lilo.conf |
| 05:22.56 | gsp | got it... but if I did a dist-upgrade to unstable can I go to testing? |
| 05:22.58 | evane|work | gsp: sid has for the most part bleeding edge only real big exception is X, but that has many good reasons |
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| 05:23.08 | Xenguy | gsp: is this for a server or desktop? Also, do you have some debian experience? |
| 05:23.09 | BlackRose | cappicard: would you mind helping me get mine to work? |
| 05:23.19 | cappicard | sure. which kernel do you have? |
| 05:23.36 | dip | whenever i run a windows manager other than gnome the gtk applications interface font is real small? font 4? how can i fix this? |
| 05:23.41 | cafuego | GRRRRRR |
| 05:23.48 | gsp | This is for a desktop... and I've played with Debian for a while... and if the whole thing goes to shit I don't care... cuz it's a "For Fun" partition on this box |
| 05:23.50 | dip | like gaim in windowsmaker |
| 05:23.54 | evane|work | dip: gnome-settings-daemon |
| 05:23.57 | stew | gsp: you can't go backwards from unstable |
| 05:24.07 | gsp | shit... so I'm looking at another reinstall? |
| 05:24.11 | evane|work | stew: you can but it is asking for trouble |
| 05:24.13 | CompWizrd | BlackRose: i'm having great fun with my 9600XT in windows with tv in |
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| 05:24.14 | Xenguy | gsp: go for unstable then I say |
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| 05:24.16 | holycow | is there a way to log into a debian system to the command line instead of desktop gui? pressing ctrl at boot allows for choice of *kernel?* but doesnt seem to offer which user mode to log into? |
| 05:24.19 | CompWizrd | ati's software won't talk to it |
| 05:24.21 | hanasaki | cafuego: sensor-detect says that i2c-dev isnt loaded.. i am runnding kernel 2.6 on sarge. there is a module i2c_dev loaded there is no i2* in /proc/bus any ideas what i am missing? thanks |
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| 05:24.32 | BlackRose | really CompWizrd.. so what did you do? |
| 05:24.33 | gsp | there's just a problem with one of the packages I'm trying to run... |
| 05:24.36 | gsp | and I use it all the time |
| 05:24.40 | CompWizrd | so i put a tv wonder in, ati's software talks to that just fine, but it's lower than vcr quality.. so i loaded up dscaler |
| 05:24.40 | gsp | gaim doesn't wanna work |
| 05:24.45 | Stormrider | Now what do I do once I get it open? |
| 05:24.45 | gsp | keeps dyin on me... |
| 05:24.49 | BlackRose | cappicard: i have version 2.6.1 |
| 05:24.51 | CompWizrd | and it's back to dvd quality, and gives me captions, which my 9600XT won't |
| 05:24.54 | gsp | anyone have another Yahoo! client? |
| 05:24.55 | evane|work | dip: then use gnome-font-properties to set size and grab gtk-theme-switch to change themes |
| 05:24.56 | bob2 | holycow: ctrl-alt-f1 at gdm/kdm/xdm |
| 05:24.56 | cappicard | ah ok. |
| 05:25.00 | Xenguy | holycow: I can't tell you how many people have been wrestling with that problem here tonight |
| 05:25.03 | BlackRose | CompWizrd: do you use gatos? |
| 05:25.04 | hanasaki | gsp: run it from the command prompt and see what error it gives when it dies |
| 05:25.10 | cafuego | hanasaki: Well, no i2c tools work with the 2.6 i2c modules yet, so I wouldn't worry about it. |
| 05:25.11 | cappicard | do you have video2linux support built into your kernel,BlackRose? |
| 05:25.15 | CompWizrd | BlackRose: this is under windows, sorry |
| 05:25.15 | prajm | anyone know if its possible to get a sql dump of APTs database ? :/ |
| 05:25.17 | holycow | Xenguy, really? how weird |
| 05:25.18 | stew | gsp: a lot of people have been complaining about that today, welcome to unstable, you might wanna check bugs.debian.org/gaim |
| 05:25.23 | bob2 | !+experimental |
| 05:25.23 | dpkg | hmm... experimental is If you want to use some certain packages in experimental (probably xfree86 4.3.0), you need first a sources.list line of 'deb http://debian.mirror/debian/ ../project/experimental main', then 'Package: *', 'Pin: release a=experimental', 'Priority: 1001' in /etc/apt/preferences. Remember, it's hard to get to for a reason! |
| 05:25.23 | BlackRose | cappicard: yes I do believe so |
| 05:25.28 | cafuego | hanasaki: As the kernel says, it's all under /sys now. |
| 05:25.30 | BlackRose | CompWizrd: ... haha ok... :P |
| 05:25.30 | Stormrider | I am at lilo.cfg, and looking at the part that specifies the bood device |
| 05:25.36 | holycow | bob2 cant do mate, my keyboard and moust arent responding at all on the other system :/ |
| 05:25.40 | hanasaki | cafuego: ah :) thansk man.. any ideas / urls that might show when? |
| 05:25.41 | gsp | cool... are there any othey Yahoo! msngr and Yahoo! chat clients out there? |
| 05:25.46 | gsp | other* |
| 05:25.46 | evane|work | prajm: apt's db is stored in plain text files |
| 05:25.53 | Xenguy | holycow: anyway, can you get to a console ( e.g. Alt-Ctrl-F2) ? |
| 05:25.54 | bob2 | holycow: so don't start X. "Linux 1" at the lilo prompt |
| 05:25.57 | cappicard | good. |
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| 05:26.04 | BlackRose | cappicard: i compiled v4linux as a module... |
| 05:26.06 | zeeble | gsp kopete, gaim, ayttm |
| 05:26.07 | stew | gsp: ymessenger |
| 05:26.09 | evane|work | gsp: kopete (qt kde appt_ |
| 05:26.10 | cappicard | perfect. |
| 05:26.12 | hanasaki | cafuego: ut O .. i have not /sys directory |
| 05:26.15 | cappicard | what about bttv? |
| 05:26.16 | prajm | evane|work: oh just some time ago i recall it was greycat that had it all running .. :) |
| 05:26.17 | gsp | thakns |
| 05:26.21 | holycow | Linux1 at lilo prompt? /me googles |
| 05:26.23 | BlackRose | cappicard: perhaps... |
| 05:26.32 | hanasaki | i do have /proc/sys |
| 05:26.32 | holycow | Xenguy, nope :/ keyboard and mouse don't respond |
| 05:26.34 | cappicard | that is the driver needed for your tv wonder |
| 05:26.35 | BlackRose | cappicard: should i do a modprobe bttv? |
| 05:26.38 | Stormrider | zeeble, what do I change? I'm totally lost here |
| 05:26.39 | cappicard | yes |
| 05:26.45 | BlackRose | cappicard: ok.. brb |
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| 05:26.51 | cappicard | ok |
| 05:26.59 | prajm | evane|work: and i do mean the bot in here ;) |
| 05:27.02 | zeeble | hey prajm, what's your real name? |
| 05:27.10 | evane|work | prajm: oh sorry my mistage :) |
| 05:27.13 | evane|work | err mistake |
| 05:27.17 | cappicard | tuner will get loaded too |
| 05:27.25 | prajm | evane|work: hehe np ;) |
| 05:27.28 | prajm | zeeble: huh ? |
| 05:27.37 | cafuego | hanasaki: Then wtf are you doing with a 2.6 kernel? |
| 05:27.42 | cappicard | if you don't have options tuner type=2 in modules.conf, your channels will be off by one |
| 05:27.59 | hanasaki | cafuego: trying to learn here |
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| 05:28.06 | zeeble | prajm: umm, your name has 4 characters in the same order as mine. mine has a "prajn" in my name |
| 05:28.07 | BlackRose | cappicard: it just loaded bttv |
| 05:28.12 | BlackRose | cappicard: what do i do now?... lol |
| 05:28.15 | cafuego | hanasaki: Yes, well. Lession 1: read the documentation. |
| 05:28.16 | BlackRose | drmkernel? |
| 05:28.23 | prajm | zeeble: oh heh ;) |
| 05:28.24 | cappicard | ok, do you have mplayer or xawtv installed? |
| 05:28.40 | Xenguy | holycow: I'm sorry, I'm sleep-deprived at this point |
| 05:28.42 | holycow | oh i see what you mean. i get Linux and LinuxOLD as choices, both result in non working keyboard/mouse, i.e. both load into kde |
| 05:28.50 | cappicard | i recommend tvtime. it's the best tv app imo |
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| 05:28.55 | holycow | Xenguy, no worries mate :) muchly appreciate your time |
| 05:28.59 | BlackRose | cappicard: i have both installed |
| 05:28.59 | Nitrocld | can I setup fstab so only select users can mount/unmount a drive? |
| 05:29.00 | holycow | get some sleep huh? |
| 05:29.03 | cappicard | cool. |
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| 05:29.09 | BlackRose | cappicard: ok, i'm getting tvtime |
| 05:29.36 | cappicard | do this one: mplayer -tv driver=v4l:norm=ntsc:chanlist=us-bcast tv://3 |
| 05:29.49 | cappicard | change ntsc and us-bcast if needed |
| 05:29.55 | Xenguy | holycow: you need to do a rescue or boot disk/CD, and uninstall {xgk}dm basically |
| 05:30.03 | cappicard | that should give you channel 3 |
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| 05:30.38 | holycow | xen really? how odd, i deleted the old xf96config file, did dpkgreconfigure, restored backup config file |
| 05:30.46 | holycow | okay i will try that |
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| 05:32.02 | edison | Help my tasklist_applet won't work proprely and i don't know why ? |
| 05:32.11 | zic | does anyone know about the 1025 UDP port? it says blackjack. what hell is that? |
| 05:32.12 | thomas_adam | edison: what applet? |
| 05:32.18 | cappicard | BlackRose: did you get a picture? |
| 05:32.19 | thomas_adam | zic: cardgame |
| 05:32.28 | gsp | do I need to install some other stuff for this kopete thing to work? |
| 05:32.33 | zic | thomas_adam : how can i close it? |
| 05:32.39 | edison | thomas_adam, tasklist_applet for gnome |
| 05:32.48 | thomas_adam | edison: yeck, I am a fvwm user... |
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| 05:33.19 | thomas_adam | Moo |
| 05:33.38 | zic | how can i see what process is listen a port?? |
| 05:33.50 | cafuego | zic: netstat -nap |
| 05:33.54 | edison | That strange i have many icon with panel title in that task bar |
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| 05:34.37 | thomas_adam | edison: how is it not working? |
| 05:34.47 | thomas_adam | ~test |
| 05:34.49 | | Failed |
| 05:35.09 | BlackRose | cappicard: it says no such driver: v4l |
| 05:35.15 | avatar | hey... i'm looking for kernel 2.6 cd burning info... anyone have a good site? |
| 05:35.17 | cappicard | ok. |
| 05:35.25 | cappicard | look at your dmesg output |
| 05:35.32 | BlackRose | cappicard: lol... ok |
| 05:35.33 | cafuego | avatar: try the cdrecord or kernel docs |
| 05:35.48 | cappicard | see if bttv recognizes your card |
| 05:35.49 | edison | thomas_adam, when i reduce window i lose that window in the task bar and i have 3 panel icons on it |
| 05:36.16 | avatar | cafuego: okay. |
| 05:36.55 | avatar | cafuego: i have read the kernel docs. said ide-scsi is deprecrated. |
| 05:37.05 | edison | thomas_adam, i have gnote, gnote, panel, panel, xterm |
| 05:37.13 | BlackRose | cappicard: ok... looking |
| 05:37.15 | cafuego | avatar: yes. |
| 05:37.35 | avatar | cafuego: well, cdrdao doesn't appear to work without it ;( |
| 05:37.39 | cafuego | avatar: Doesn't mean it won't work, but ATA is faster & preferred now, unless you have a SCSI writer |
| 05:37.41 | zic | My named is listen in 1025(UDP). is that okay? |
| 05:37.44 | edison | thomas_adam, gnote don't suppose to be show as an window same thing for panel |
| 05:37.48 | cafuego | avatar: vCorrect, cdrdao needs scsi emualtion |
| 05:38.01 | BlackRose | cappicard: it says loaded |
| 05:38.05 | cafuego | zic: no, it needs to be on port 53 |
| 05:38.13 | avatar | cafuego: well, i tried ide-scsi emulation with 2.6 and it didn't work, it told me to try ide-cd, which i did, but that didn't work either. |
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| 05:38.21 | BlackRose | cappicard: let me load up in X so i can show you the exact msg |
| 05:38.30 | cafuego | ~doesn't work |
| 05:38.31 | | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 05:38.32 | cappicard | hmm... it probably doesn't have a bt878 chip |
| 05:38.43 | cafuego | avatar: it works fine here with ide-scsi, scsi_mod and sg |
| 05:38.54 | croddy | libdv-dev seems to conflict with libdv-bin; installing libdv-dev tries to overwrite /usr/bin/playdv; anyone know a solution? i am using sid, trying to install ffmpeg |
| 05:38.58 | avatar | cafuego: argh. maybe i have an isolated issue. |
| 05:39.07 | kelt | cappicard, it's me BlackRose... in X... |
| 05:39.16 | cappicard | ah ok |
| 05:39.21 | edison | When i try to remove gnome-panel i get error dependency with gnome-session but i want to force remove it and then reinstall it, how can i do ? |
| 05:39.28 | cappicard | do you know which chip your tuner has? |
| 05:39.33 | kelt | when i did a dmesg | grep bttv |
| 05:39.37 | kelt | it gave me this... |
| 05:39.51 | cappicard | three lines at a time please ;) |
| 05:40.08 | kelt | bttv: driver version 0.9.12 loaded |
| 05:40.12 | kelt | bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture |
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| 05:40.40 | edison | help When i try to remove gnome-panel i get error dependency with gnome-session but i want to force remove it and then reinstall it, how can i do ? |
| 05:40.45 | zic | cafuego : it uses the 1025 to ask for resolution. but nmap recongizes it as beeing opened. ;)) |
| 05:40.59 | exobyte | is there a good non-rsync way to transfer a file and allow resuming? |
| 05:41.03 | thomas_adam | ~test |
| 05:41.04 | | Failed |
| 05:41.18 | thomas_adam | exobyte: wget ? |
| 05:41.47 | bob2 | edison: read the dpkg manpage, --force-depends |
| 05:41.47 | edison | Well that suck i will need to reinstall all my debian :/ |
| 05:41.54 | VITIHO | edison: dpkg --force-depends -r gnome-panel |
| 05:41.56 | BlackRose | cappicard: what you think of that msg? |
| 05:42.09 | Wyzard | Anyone know how to tell the difference between an Athlon Thunderbird and Athlon XP from the contents of /proc/cpuinfo ? |
| 05:42.09 | edison | VITIHO, ok |
| 05:42.19 | zic | msg apt : zic |
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| 05:42.26 | zic | sorry. :( |
| 05:42.33 | bob2 | exobyte: I dout anything is going to beat rsync |
| 05:42.41 | pmiller9 | how do I check what libraries a binary was compiled with? |
| 05:42.47 | cappicard | bttv isn't recognizing your chip |
| 05:42.54 | cafuego | pmiller9: ldd ./app |
| 05:42.54 | thomas_adam | I doubt dout, too. |
| 05:42.56 | bob2 | pmiller9: you can't, generally. |
| 05:43.05 | bob2 | pmiller9: do you mean "which libraries it needs at runtime?" |
| 05:43.15 | thomas_adam | ldd will show you what they use.... |
| 05:43.25 | BlackRose | cappicard: it isn't? |
| 05:43.39 | pmiller9 | bob2: yeah |
| 05:43.43 | cafuego | Wyzard: An XP says soemthing like: "model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+" |
| 05:43.49 | bob2 | pmiller9: ldd /usr/bin/binary |
| 05:44.08 | cafuego | Wyzard: What does your say? |
| 05:44.13 | thomas_adam | ldd $(which binary) |
| 05:44.17 | thomas_adam | hmm, lag |
| 05:44.23 | Wyzard | cafuego: "AMD Athlon(tm) Processor"... so it's not an XP, I guess |
| 05:44.32 | cafuego | Wyzard: Looks like it |
| 05:44.38 | Wyzard | cafuego: thanks |
| 05:44.43 | pmiller9 | bob2: thanks |
| 05:45.36 | cappicard | on mine, I get this: bttv: Bt8xx card found (0). bttv0: Bt878 (rev 17) at 00:08.0, irq: 10, latency: 32, mmio: 0xdf002000 bttv0: detected: ATI TV Wonder/VE [card=64], PCI subsystem ID is 1002:0003 |
| 05:45.59 | thomas_adam | BitchX, hmm... |
| 05:46.28 | exobyte | bob2: for some reason, it's taking a while. One system is on dialup |
| 05:46.40 | cafuego | !slap thomas_adam |
| 05:46.50 | kelt | hey cappicard, do i need to load the video 4 linux module? |
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| 05:47.01 | kelt | it isn't loaded as far as lsmod says... |
| 05:47.10 | cappicard | it needs to be loaded |
| 05:47.13 | kelt | what is the module name for video4linux? |
| 05:47.19 | GhostDawg | hello everybody |
| 05:47.25 | thomas_adam | cafuego: I use a proper irc-client: irssi |
| 05:47.25 | cafuego | hi dr nick! |
| 05:47.30 | bob2 | exobyte: yes, dialup is slow and laggy. rsyncing stuff down my dialup connection is a lot faster than anything else I can think of, tho |
| 05:47.41 | cappicard | videodev |
| 05:48.22 | cappicard | you need tuner, videodev, and bttv loaded. |
| 05:48.41 | cappicard | but look at lspci to find out which chip your tuner is using |
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| 05:48.59 | kelt | 00:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant: Unknown device 8800 (rev 05) |
| 05:49.10 | cappicard | ah ok |
| 05:49.16 | kelt | ... lol |
| 05:49.32 | kelt | it's a TV Wonder Pro |
| 05:49.33 | cappicard | 2.6.1-mm5 has support for the conexant tuner chip |
| 05:49.39 | bob2 | lspci doesn't know anything about your hardware |
| 05:49.44 | bob2 | ignore it if you don't understand why |
| 05:49.50 | bob2 | it has nothing to do with kernel support |
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| 05:49.54 | kelt | hmm, what is 2.6.1-mm5? |
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| 05:50.30 | xerophyte | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:50.32 | danor | can't find rasterfs (types) in cfdisk, what should I choose? |
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| 05:50.38 | xerophyte | no screen found |
| 05:50.42 | cappicard | it's a test kernel version ;) |
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| 05:50.48 | guestish | i uploaded a key to a keyserver which now i want to revoke, i have the private and public keys but i dont know how to get rid of the key of the keyserver, anyone know how? |
| 05:50.51 | guestish | i dont know if i need to revoke it |
| 05:50.56 | bob2 | xerophyte: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, disable framebuffer |
| 05:50.56 | guestish | i just want the key to be deleted |
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| 05:51.22 | cappicard | try this one: load the cx8800 module |
| 05:51.24 | pmiller9 | how do I get cups to work w/ encryption? I recompiled it w/ ssl support and changed the port number to 443, but the error log reports "bad require lines" ??? |
| 05:51.35 | pmiller9 | s/require/request |
| 05:51.42 | xerophyte | bob2 thx |
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| 05:51.56 | VITIHO | you can try to set you bttv card manualy (as i do, by specifying something like modprobe bttv card=39) see CARDLIST maybe you'll find your card :) |
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| 05:51.56 | Nicon | Installing debian on my Toshiba Libretto 100CT. It has a "widescreen" LCD monitor, 800x480. I have defined a modeline accordingly to what docs says on the inet (Linux on Libretto 100CT guide). Although when I start the x-server it says: "Removing mode (800x480) that won't display properly on LCD", and it starts 800x600 which has 120 pixels chopped of at the bottom. Solution? |
| 05:51.57 | kelt | BlackRose:/home/kelt/drm-kernel # modprobe cx8800 |
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| 05:52.00 | kelt | FATAL: Module cx8800 not found. |
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| 05:52.26 | carrett | how do i make .wav's so that i don't have to use -pad in cdrecord (from .mp3's)? |
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| 05:52.30 | cappicard | try rebuilding support for the conexant 28800 tuner chip into your kernel |
| 05:52.33 | guestish | anyone know how to remove a pgp key from a pgp server??? |
| 05:52.39 | guestish | er a keyserver |
| 05:52.39 | cappicard | er-238800 |
| 05:52.42 | kelt | cappicard, do i need to remake my kernel? |
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| 05:53.02 | cappicard | at least build the cx8800 kernel |
| 05:53.06 | cappicard | er-kernel module |
| 05:53.17 | exobyte | bob2: you can't think of any problems between the debian rsync and the freebsd one, can you? |
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| 05:53.35 | mwilson | doobie doobie doo |
| 05:53.48 | carrett | how do i make .wav's so that i don't have to use -pad in cdrecord (from .mp3's)? |
| 05:53.53 | bob2 | exobyte: I'm 99% sure they've never changed the protocol |
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| 05:54.05 | exobyte | bob2: that's what I thought |
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| 05:54.17 | mwilson | carrett: Is there some sort of problem with that? |
| 05:55.08 | kelt | ok thanks cappicard... |
| 05:55.38 | dude | could someone traceoute mung.net and then thelonius.mung.net for me and tell me what they see |
| 05:55.39 | cappicard | sure |
| 05:55.50 | thomas_adam | dude: I see *'s |
| 05:56.03 | dude | with which ones |
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| 05:56.33 | guestish | guess no one knows |
| 05:56.49 | danor | fdisk can't delte the ufs partition, how to do this? |
| 05:57.02 | mwilson | danor: Of course it can. |
| 05:57.06 | gsp | how do I give myself write access to my own hard drive??? |
| 05:57.18 | mwilson | danor: The filesystem that it contains isn't at all relevant. |
| 05:57.23 | gsp | you can ridicule me... but I don't know how to edit permissions |
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| 05:57.36 | VITIHO | gsp: chmod +w :) |
| 05:57.51 | danor | mwilson: yes it can but then it says that "mount fs type ufs not supported by kernel |
| 05:58.01 | gsp | it's that easy vitiho? |
| 05:58.08 | mwilson | danor: So build a kernel that supports UFS, then. |
| 05:58.12 | danor | but in cfdisk its fs linux'' |
| 05:58.15 | helix` | ah |
| 05:58.17 | danor | a , ok |
| 05:58.27 | mwilson | gsp: What's wrong with the permissions that're already there? |
| 05:58.33 | VITIHO | gsp: you should read something about unix permisions, but basicaly it is :) |
| 05:59.13 | exobyte | is there a utility that can spilt up a file? |
| 05:59.18 | thomas_adam | exobyte: split |
| 05:59.28 | exobyte | thomas_adam: and to rejoin |
| 05:59.31 | thomas_adam | exobyte: man split; man join |
| 05:59.33 | cafuego | there kernel doesn't mount UFS rw |
| 05:59.42 | helix | mwilson: i caved and am using my 15" for X |
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| 05:59.47 | helix | works pretty damn good |
| 05:59.55 | mwilson | I figured you would. |
| 05:59.58 | helix | heh |
| 06:00.01 | cafuego | helix: 1600x1200? |
| 06:00.07 | helix | cafuego: pfffft |
| 06:00.16 | helix | 1024x768 is good enough |
| 06:01.05 | cappicard | bed time. night all |
| 06:01.09 | helix | you know, i'm tempted to say that the 15" has a better color display than the 19" did |
| 06:01.42 | gsp | <--- running a 19" at 1280x1024 + a 15" at 1024x768 in Xinerama |
| 06:01.49 | helix | cafuego: you are NOT NICE |
| 06:02.05 | thomas_adam | <-- console, and proud of it. |
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| 06:02.07 | cafuego | helix: took you long enough to realise :-P |
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| 06:02.23 | lucas | heyas i'm having a problem with my gtk1.2 themes (on sid), gtk-theme-switch works (including the preview looking correct) but the theme is not applied to my gtk1.2 apps... anyone? |
| 06:02.25 | helix | console is cool.. but i like to see images sometimes |
| 06:02.44 | thomas_adam | helix: links with zgv and ssl is all I need |
| 06:02.45 | mwilson | lucas: You usually have to restart the application. |
| 06:02.51 | synic|home | !tell synic|home about mplayer |
| 06:02.58 | synic|home | damnit. |
| 06:03.02 | helix | thomas_adam: well, i didn't have X going before.. |
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| 06:03.06 | helix | i had to do some tweaking |
| 06:03.19 | lucas | mwilson, that doesn't help, i think it's broken somehow |
| 06:03.30 | cafuego | helix: fbi on an fbcon |
| 06:03.49 | lucas | Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkentry.c: line 440 (gtk_entry_set_text): assertion `text != NULL' failed. |
| 06:03.55 | lucas | what's that? |
| 06:04.10 | thomas_adam | lucas: error message. |
| 06:04.10 | avatar | a GTK error. |
| 06:04.19 | lucas | cool |
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| 06:04.25 | thomas_adam | CRITICAL one, too. |
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| 06:04.39 | avatar | lucas: whatever program you're running did something naughty. |
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| 06:04.49 | lucas | avatar, gtk-theme-switch? |
| 06:04.54 | avatar | haha. |
| 06:04.57 | avatar | apparently so. |
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| 06:04.59 | xerophyte | bob2 that didnt work i mean dpkg said could not find the disable something? |
| 06:05.15 | romulo | hi, what is the name of the server(like x) that supports total transparency on all gnome windows?! |
| 06:05.42 | avatar | an alternative to X? |
| 06:05.47 | avatar | is it free? |
| 06:05.56 | romulo | dunno if its free |
| 06:05.58 | gsp | what is the file for the permissions list? |
| 06:06.03 | jetscreamer | hey when i do shutdown -r +1 how do i get the "the system is going down for reboot in one minute" message to broadcast to the x-server users |
| 06:06.14 | avatar | romulo: you talking about a server or a window manager? |
| 06:06.17 | thomas_adam | jetscreamer: man xmessage |
| 06:06.21 | jetscreamer | k thx |
| 06:06.22 | lucas | romulo, xouvert? |
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| 06:06.34 | thomas_adam | jetscreamer: although it *is* broadcast on all pty's as well |
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| 06:06.40 | avatar | oooh nice. |
| 06:07.17 | bob2 | freedesktop.org's X server can do that. |
| 06:07.41 | mwilson | gsp: "permissions list"? |
| 06:07.43 | avatar | are these alternatives quicker than X? X is fairly slow as far as rendering goes. |
| 06:07.50 | jetscreamer | whoa cool |
| 06:07.53 | avatar | by rendering i mean screen rendering. |
| 06:08.02 | gsp | Users list? |
| 06:08.18 | thomas_adam | gsp: ls -l ? |
| 06:08.18 | gsp | the text file I can edit to give permissions to use stuff |
| 06:08.22 | mwilson | gsp: <sigh> What is it that you're looking for? |
| 06:08.26 | dondelelcaro | X isn't that slow at screen drawing... there are faster methods... but then it wouldn't be an X server. |
| 06:08.29 | xerophyte | bob2 i still get the error saying no screen found .. i mean looks like dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 disable framebuffer returned with error saying no disable found something ..can you tell me what am i doing it wrong? |
| 06:08.36 | mwilson | gsp: There is no such thing. Where'd you get the idea that there was? |
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| 06:08.49 | jetscreamer | so is it true the next xserver is going to be the freedesktop.org flavor? (nextgen) |
| 06:08.49 | gsp | well where is the list of users stored? |
| 06:09.00 | gsp | some kind of config file? |
| 06:09.05 | mwilson | gsp: In /etc/passwd. But that doesn't grant permissions. |
| 06:09.06 | gsp | I thought I used it before |
| 06:09.09 | thomas_adam | mwilson: he might mean the security levels for chkconfig |
| 06:09.11 | holycow | jet i donno, but damnit it looks great huh? |
| 06:09.15 | avatar | gsp: you may consider getting a book. or reading some howtos. or something. |
| 06:09.21 | jetscreamer | no idea i know the name |
| 06:09.21 | bob2 | xerophyte: blah |
| 06:09.22 | mwilson | jetscreamer: Not likely. |
| 06:09.36 | bob2 | xerophyte: run " dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 " and when it asks you, DISABEL THE FRAMEBUFFER OPTION. |
| 06:09.37 | xerophyte | bob2 didnt get you |
| 06:09.45 | gsp | ok... I thought I remembered there being some sort of file that stored those |
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| 06:09.54 | thomas_adam | gsp: no |
| 06:09.55 | xerophyte | bob2 did but still not starting same error |
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| 06:10.03 | gsp | it's been a couple years since I've run this... and I lost my Linux for dummies book |
| 06:10.24 | thomas_adam | gsp: lol, how ironic. |
| 06:10.28 | jetscreamer | but the xfree group disbanded and a different flavor will be needed eventually? |
| 06:10.30 | gsp | ok... so how do I give gsp access to write on /dev/hde6? |
| 06:10.34 | mwilson | jetscreamer: Wrong again. |
| 06:10.43 | jetscreamer | hmmm |
| 06:10.45 | jetscreamer | k |
| 06:10.49 | cafuego | gsp: You mount it, chown it or chmod it. |
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| 06:11.46 | gsp | cafuego it's mounted... it's my root filesystem |
| 06:11.51 | kelt | hey cappicard... you still around? |
| 06:12.00 | gsp | but I can't write to most directories with this user... just root |
| 06:12.06 | thomas_adam | gsp: www.tldp.org |
| 06:12.16 | thomas_adam | gsp: add the 'user' option in fstab |
| 06:12.26 | cafuego | gsp: Why does your user needs write all over it then? |
| 06:12.27 | thomas_adam | gsp: man 5 fstab |
| 06:12.27 | stevens_ | gsp: that's a feature, not a bug |
| 06:12.37 | mwilson | gsp: Yes, that's the way it's supposed to be. |
| 06:12.50 | thomas_adam | does he mean '/' or what? |
| 06:12.57 | gsp | I know that... but I want to be able to save stuff in places other that home/gsp |
| 06:13.02 | gsp | than* |
| 06:13.07 | cafuego | gsp: Such as? |
| 06:13.07 | romulo | i want a server, not a window manager |
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| 06:13.50 | gsp | Mozilla was trying to add Java 2 support but the directory it was trying to save to was read only |
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| 06:14.12 | cafuego | gsp: Note the j2sdk *package* package |
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| 06:14.24 | gsp | j2sdk? |
| 06:14.27 | cafuego | !tell gsp about blackdown debs |
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| 06:14.28 | thomas_adam | gsp: how did you even manage to install Linux:? |
| 06:14.53 | gsp | that will add the plugin for me? |
| 06:15.05 | gsp | thanks thomas... |
| 06:15.12 | gsp | I'm not THAT stupid... I just don't have my book of basic commands |
| 06:15.26 | gsp | and I haven't run it for a couple years |
| 06:15.30 | thomas_adam | gsp: again: www.tldp.org (guides section) is quite handy. |
| 06:15.35 | gsp | so I fuckin forgot OK? |
| 06:15.36 | gsp | thakns |
| 06:15.47 | thomas_adam | gsp: that site is useful, really.. ;) |
| 06:15.56 | gsp | thanks a ton! |
| 06:16.09 | holycow | gsp, ignore the asshats dude |
| 06:16.36 | holycow | you have entered a veritable potpourri of asshats as far as the universe is concerne |
| 06:16.43 | debian | holycow: why did you tell people ignoring you? :) j/k |
| 06:16.47 | holycow | ye shall be allright if ya simply put them on ignore :) |
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| 06:16.52 | kelt | ... |
| 06:16.54 | holycow | ehehe deb :) |
| 06:17.11 | cafuego | gsp: Yes, the pacvkage knows about mozilla and will add a plugin link. |
| 06:17.37 | gsp | that's slick... but I need to add that blackdown source? |
| 06:17.41 | kelt | hmm... i'm in make menuconfig and... erm... where can i find the cx8800 kernel, anyone know? |
| 06:17.50 | thomas_adam | gsp: add it to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:18.02 | thomas_adam | gsp: apt-get update |
| 06:18.05 | gsp | I know how to do that! |
| 06:18.11 | thomas_adam | gsp: ok :) |
| 06:18.11 | gsp | aren't you suprised?? |
| 06:18.17 | thomas_adam | gsp: no, not at all. |
| 06:18.22 | gsp | :-P |
| 06:18.22 | zeeble | heh |
| 06:18.35 | zeeble | thomas_adam humour him, act like you're surprised |
| 06:18.40 | cafuego | !mock gsp |
| 06:19.00 | gsp | !riddicule cafuego |
| 06:19.38 | cafuego | gsp: that's with one 'd' |
| 06:19.50 | gsp | !ridicule cafuego |
| 06:19.51 | dpkg | Are you aware, cafuego, that your grandmother was a hamster? |
| 06:19.57 | gsp | works better that way... |
| 06:20.01 | cafuego | dpkg: yes |
| 06:20.01 | dpkg | i guess yes is no, or the opposite of no |
| 06:20.09 | gsp | and your father smelled of eldeberries |
| 06:20.34 | thomas_adam | gsp: Monty Python, classic. |
| 06:20.37 | debian | !8ball cafuego is also a hamster |
| 06:20.38 | dpkg | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 06:20.40 | kelt | ... |
| 06:20.42 | cafuego | gsp: good amn if you can make that out over the whiskey |
| 06:22.10 | debian | ~fart jetscreamer |
| 06:22.15 | | ACTION farts in jetscreamer's general direction |
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| 06:23.32 | gsp | Once again... I LOVE BROADBAND |
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| 06:24.05 | Xybernaut | ~fart |
| 06:24.07 | | ACTION farts, releasing large quantities of methane and sulfur dioxide. "Evacuate the channel! GO! *gag* SAVE YOURSELVES *cough* MOVE *choke* MOVE!" |
| 06:24.07 | gsp | "Fetched 12.9MB in 36 seconds |
| 06:24.18 | kelt | where can i find the cx8800 kernel in make menuconfig? |
| 06:24.22 | gsp | I fart in your general direction |
| 06:25.08 | cafuego | You an anglo-saxon pig-dog by any chance? |
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| 06:26.03 | gsp | anyone know a faster mirror to www.tux.org? |
| 06:26.10 | gsp | this is crampin my broadband style |
| 06:26.37 | thomas_adam | gsp: never. |
| 06:27.01 | gsp | thomas_adam: wtf? |
| 06:27.02 | helix | gsp: did you just get broadband today? |
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| 06:27.10 | gsp | helix: no. |
| 06:27.15 | helix | gsp: are you sure? |
| 06:27.19 | thomas_adam | lol |
| 06:27.19 | gsp | helix: just feel the need for speed |
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| 06:27.34 | helix | gsp: how old are you? |
| 06:27.41 | gsp | helix: 23 |
| 06:27.47 | gsp | helix: just impatient |
| 06:27.49 | MrNice | Hey can someone Help me please how can i do this for my webcam To with Debian Is a Usb WebCam and i wan't to take pictures can someone help me plz? |
| 06:27.50 | gsp | :P |
| 06:27.54 | helix | gsp: why are you so excited about your broadband? |
| 06:28.14 | gsp | helix: just like pullin down 300k |
| 06:28.16 | helix | MrNice: did you google to see if your webcam is supported? a lot of them aren't |
| 06:28.37 | MrNice | is a Logitech |
| 06:28.38 | gsp | helix: when I'm stuck getting 15k it's annoying |
| 06:28.42 | helix | gsp: it's ok - i'm pretty immature myself. for instance, i giggle when someone asks how to setup a webcam. |
| 06:29.03 | gsp | helix: and how old are you? |
| 06:29.06 | cafuego | helix: he just explained; 23. |
| 06:29.10 | helix | gsp: 23 |
| 06:29.10 | chris` | helix: because you know they'll use it to make porn |
| 06:29.14 | helix | chris`: :o |
| 06:29.27 | gsp | helix: I've also had too much caffine (sp?) |
| 06:29.36 | MrNice | helix, it is |
| 06:29.49 | thomas_adam | caffeine |
| 06:29.52 | helix | cafuego: well, my birthday *is* next month.. |
| 06:29.59 | cafuego | helix: still |
| 06:30.05 | gsp | I made some of the strongest coffee of my life at work and it hasn't worn off |
| 06:30.05 | helix | cafuego: how old are you? |
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| 06:30.24 | gsp | so... is there a faster mirror to tux.org? |
| 06:30.24 | MrNice | can someone Help me Here plz? |
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| 06:30.50 | jamesm__ | What package does ps2pdf belong to ? |
| 06:31.00 | kelt | well crap. |
| 06:31.00 | dondelelcaro | !find bin/ps2pdf |
| 06:31.07 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/ps2pdf' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/{ps2pdf|ps2pdf12|ps2pdf13|...}) in text/gs-common. |
| 06:31.08 | MrNice | So no one is Going to help me? |
| 06:31.12 | zignig | helix: only old people actually own volvos. |
| 06:31.14 | jamesm__ | thank you dondelelcaro :) |
| 06:31.24 | helix | zignig: and only 30-somethings won't give their age |
| 06:31.24 | zignig | helix: most people steal them for ram raids. |
| 06:31.27 | helix | haha |
| 06:31.37 | zignig | cafuego: sure ..... :P |
| 06:31.38 | gsp | so... where in the world are you people sitting at Linux boxes? |
| 06:31.48 | helix | MrNice: i think you need to be more specific |
| 06:31.48 | gsp | I would be located in Minnesota |
| 06:31.51 | jetscreamer | i have 2 minivans |
| 06:31.59 | blackisha | i am having a problem with mail, smtp (25) is being blocked somewhere in between me & the mail server. if i telnet via ssh on the mail server it works, but if i telnet locally to the mail server i get a connection refused |
| 06:32.04 | dondelelcaro | gsp: if you're in minnesota, you probably want to use the teleglobe mirrors. |
| 06:32.05 | helix | cafuego is in hell |
| 06:32.11 | jamesm__ | dondelelcaro: what command does dpkg use to find that out ? |
| 06:32.15 | gsp | what is the address? |
| 06:32.16 | MrNice | helix, all i want to know how to work my Logitech on Debian to take pictures and stuff, |
| 06:32.27 | helix | MrNice: so what have you done to try and set it up yourself? |
| 06:32.31 | cafuego | helix: No, that was yesterday. Today is cooler. |
| 06:32.35 | blackisha | is there _any_ way to work out which node is blocking port 25? |
| 06:32.40 | ApEtc | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:32.41 | MrNice | helix, look on modconf |
| 06:32.45 | MrNice | but nothing =( and never done it |
| 06:32.51 | blackisha | i.e. something similar to a tracert but for port 25 |
| 06:32.52 | helix | MrNice: did you google for a howto? |
| 06:32.55 | jetscreamer | MrNice, look on tldp.org for how-to |
| 06:33.05 | jetscreamer | jinx-ish-ism |
| 06:33.10 | dondelelcaro | jamesm__: dpgk uses open(IN,"zegrep -h '$grepRE' $files |"); |
| 06:33.14 | dondelelcaro | jamesm__: you want to use apt-file. |
| 06:33.16 | helix | jetscreamer: i never recommend tldp.. |
| 06:33.19 | dondelelcaro | s/dpgk/dpkg/ |
| 06:33.20 | gsp | dondelelcaro: what would the address to those mirrors be? |
| 06:33.26 | dondelelcaro | gsp: apt-setup. |
| 06:33.27 | jetscreamer | y |
| 06:33.38 | cafuego | gsp: apt-spy |
| 06:33.39 | helix | !y |
| 06:33.39 | dpkg | from memory, y is http://www.hungry.com/products/Ywindows/, or its why, not y. w h y. see u, any1. |
| 06:33.40 | dondelelcaro | gsp: they're "official" mirrors. |
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| 06:33.56 | gsp | dondelelcaro: will they have the Blackdown debs on them? |
| 06:34.00 | dondelelcaro | helix: how far into feb is your b-day? |
| 06:34.04 | dondelelcaro | gsp: no. |
| 06:34.06 | helix | dondelelcaro: it's on the 10th.. |
| 06:34.08 | jetscreamer | well gee ok.... so tell me miss helix, why is it that you don't care to recommend tldp as a rule? |
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| 06:34.16 | dondelelcaro | helix: ah. a week later than me... |
| 06:34.17 | gsp | dondelelcaro: where can I find a fast mirror of those? |
| 06:34.20 | MrNice | Damn i'm so lost =( |
| 06:34.28 | helix | dondelelcaro: what date? |
| 06:34.34 | dondelelcaro | helix: 3rd... |
| 06:34.36 | helix | jetscreamer: i don't know - i've never actually used it myself, i guess |
| 06:34.36 | zignig | is there a way to generate a full debian mirror but distributing the load across the existing mirrors , rather than dossing 1. |
| 06:34.40 | gsp | dondelelcaro: my other sources outrun my connection |
| 06:34.47 | helix | debian: heh, and i'll be here too! it's on a tuesday.. |
| 06:34.55 | dondelelcaro | gsp: there usually aren't many mirrors of unnoficial repostiories. |
| 06:35.12 | jetscreamer | like this MrNice ... http://www.google.com/linux?q=logitec+webcam+debian+howto&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0 |
| 06:35.18 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: blackdown is an exception, but then, if he's downloaded whilst complaining he'd have it now. |
| 06:35.20 | gsp | dondelelcaro: shit |
| 06:35.25 | helix | debian: dondelelcaro and i will set up our amazon wishlists etc. so everyone can spoil us |
| 06:35.33 | dondelelcaro | helix: heh. I think mine's up... |
| 06:35.38 | helix | dondelelcaro: mine is too :) |
| 06:35.52 | helix | i don't think i have that many.. i need to go through and put some more stuff on there |
| 06:35.56 | helix | dondelelcaro: let me see yours! |
| 06:36.05 | helix | or msg me the email it's registered under |
| 06:36.17 | helix | i could find it probably.. |
| 06:36.22 | holycow | would anyone know which network module one needs to load into the kernel during the installation process to get a realtek 8129/8139 ethernet card working (dfe-538tx)? googling specifies driver names as rtl8129, 8129too but the modules available during the install are not named anything close tho this? |
| 06:36.45 | cafuego | holycow: ne2k-pci |
| 06:36.56 | helix | hm |
| 06:36.58 | cafuego | holycow: and it's 8139too |
| 06:37.05 | zignig | moo |
| 06:37.07 | helix | dondelelcaro: chico, ca? there are a lot of similar names |
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| 06:37.17 | kelt | googling: lol |
| 06:37.26 | holycow | k. lemme looksee ... :) |
| 06:38.17 | kelt | hmm |
| 06:38.27 | kelt | has anyone ever patched their linux for v4l2? |
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| 06:40.23 | gooodies | !apt |
| 06:40.23 | dpkg | it has been said that apt is the Advanced Package Tool, an advanced frontend for dpkg and rpm (depending on your system). For Debian it's a frontend for dpkg. Apt kicks ass. missing |
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| 06:40.54 | danor_ | any good nfo reader to debian? |
| 06:41.02 | Fuzebox | is there any standard place to find the configuration details for a given package? like say I wanted to find what ./configure line the mysql-server deb was built with... |
| 06:41.06 | zinx | nfo? |
| 06:41.12 | astrashe | does anyone here run mythtv? Is it as hard to get everything working as it seems like it would be? |
| 06:41.14 | zinx | .nfo, or .info? |
| 06:41.34 | jm_ | Fuzebox: source package for it |
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| 06:41.59 | danor_ | .nfo |
| 06:42.03 | Fuzebox | jmk: alright, I've downloaded the .orig and the diff... |
| 06:42.05 | zinx | any text editor/viewer |
| 06:42.06 | nichos_ | how can i kill something that is "D" in ps ax? ive tried kill -9 |
| 06:42.08 | romulo | theres any server, app, applet or something, that can make the windows that i want become transparent?! in case i wanna use it on gnomeicu window |
| 06:42.13 | zinx | choose your favorite |
| 06:42.14 | jm_ | nichos_: you can't |
| 06:42.17 | Fuzebox | err jm_ sorry, stupid completion :) |
| 06:42.21 | danor_ | zink: I want an hitech one =) |
| 06:42.26 | zinx | try less |
| 06:42.28 | danor_ | highttech |
| 06:42.33 | nichos_ | jm_ what does "D" mean? what is it waiting on? |
| 06:42.37 | Piru | danor, you gotta be kidding me. |
| 06:42.42 | danor_ | hehe |
| 06:42.44 | danor_ | nope |
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| 06:43.04 | dondelelcaro | nichos_: a process in D is in uninteruptable IO sleep. |
| 06:43.08 | GhostDawg | hi, were is a good place to get info on compiling 2.6.1 kernel the debian way? |
| 06:43.18 | jm_ | nichos_: D means uninterruptible sleep |
| 06:43.22 | dondelelcaro | !tell GhostDawg about kp |
| 06:43.23 | nichos_ | so i have to reboot? |
| 06:43.31 | dondelelcaro | nichos_: no, you can just ignore the process. |
| 06:43.38 | jm_ | nichos_: or maybe find out why it does that first |
| 06:43.43 | dondelelcaro | nichos_: or better, read dmesg, and figure out why the process is in D. |
| 06:43.57 | nichos_ | well, its tying something up (its kpilot) and i need to sync my palm |
| 06:45.42 | holycow | cafuego, much thanks, it appears you are correct, however i cannot find ne2k-pci or ne2000 references in the network card modules section of any kind |
| 06:45.48 | holycow | time to try another card, shame |
| 06:45.53 | holycow | 'preciate it |
| 06:45.58 | nichos_ | k, thanks guys... |
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| 06:47.20 | Fuzebox | so we've got like 20 guys asking questions and jm_ dishing out answers by himself :) |
| 06:48.00 | GhostDawg | dondelelcaro: that is helpful but last time I seen the kernel would be 2.6.0. |
| 06:48.06 | Joris | Fuzebox: I'll trow in some useless yet somewhat funny questions if you want |
| 06:48.17 | GhostDawg | I would like to use 2.6.1 |
| 06:48.34 | dondelelcaro | GhostDawg: so get the 2.6.1 source from kernel.org, untar it, and use make-kpkg. |
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| 06:48.36 | Joris | GhostDawg: do you have a kernel source tree and config handy? |
| 06:48.40 | helix | that nichos dude is in my lug |
| 06:48.55 | dondelelcaro | GhostDawg: those instructions cover what you're going to do as well. |
| 06:49.17 | GhostDawg | Joris: No this was a fresh install of Sid |
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| 06:49.42 | GhostDawg | dondelelcaro: Ok, thnx |
| 06:50.09 | Joris | GhostDawg: get 2.6.1 source, untar, copy old .config file from somewhere, make-kpkg kernel-image, cd ../, dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.1.deb (fuzzy filename match) |
| 06:50.10 | GhostDawg | Well I'm at work now so I can't try anything |
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| 06:52.07 | GhostDawg | I'll try both ways to see what happens |
| 06:52.35 | Joris | GhostDawg: the main thing is to get a .config from somewhere, prefferably your best-working 2.6.0 kernel |
| 06:52.53 | Joris | GhostDawg: since configuring the kernel from scratch is a long and painfull process |
| 06:53.06 | GhostDawg | I don't have a 2.6 installed |
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| 06:53.09 | GhostDawg | first time for it |
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| 06:53.23 | GhostDawg | but another thing is, I had a hd crash and using a temp drive for now |
| 06:53.31 | Joris | GhostDawg: you can always try to use a 2.4 .config file |
| 06:53.47 | GhostDawg | doesn't one come when you do fresh install? |
| 06:54.08 | tdwebste | problems booting 2.6.1, it compiles cleanly, but when I boot it says loading bios, clears the screen and hangs |
| 06:54.09 | GhostDawg | no I guess not |
| 06:54.12 | tdwebste | any ideas? |
| 06:54.40 | simonrvn | Joris: no you can't do that 2.4 -> 2.6 a big no-no |
| 06:54.57 | simonrvn | GhostDawg: make defconfig, make menuconfig |
| 06:55.14 | tdwebste | make gconfig |
| 06:55.15 | Joris | simonrvn: huh? it's better than starting from zero |
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| 06:55.24 | simonrvn | 06:54:57 simonrvn | GhostDawg: make defconfig, make menuconfig |
| 06:55.31 | simonrvn | Joris: read ^^ |
| 06:55.35 | gsp | I installed that java package... but it didn't put the plug-in into mozilla... |
| 06:55.37 | gsp | any thoughts? |
| 06:55.39 | debian | helix: what'd you like to have for your b'day? |
| 06:55.40 | Joris | tdwebste: yep, you don't have console support |
| 06:55.58 | avatar | gsp: track down the plugin and copy it to the plugin folder? |
| 06:56.04 | debian | helix: anything that can be transmitted thru irc, that is. :) |
| 06:56.05 | tdwebste | Joris: ok thanks, now how do I get console support??!! |
| 06:56.05 | Joris | tdwebste: if you have an autostarting X login manager, or auto network you'll see life in your box after a few minutes |
| 06:56.20 | Joris | tdwebste: it's an option somewhere in the kernel config |
| 06:56.20 | helix | debian: haha.. a picture of a birthday cake |
| 06:56.24 | gsp | avatar: how? |
| 06:56.32 | tdwebste | Joris: I boot to console, then startx manually |
| 06:56.46 | avatar | gsp: *shrug* do a little reading |
| 06:56.57 | GhostDawg | simonrvn: so this would be a fresh .config |
| 06:57.03 | gsp | avatar: damn... I knew you were gonna say that! |
| 06:57.11 | debian | helix or something that can be mailed...I've just bought some chinese mushroom for the chinese new year tomorrow. Tell me if you want some of those. :) |
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| 06:57.23 | simonrvn | GhostDawg: make defconfig is better than starting from scratch. then the menuconfig you edit as usual |
| 06:57.25 | avatar | gsp: do you really think you'll learn if i just give you a bunch of commands? |
| 06:57.39 | avatar | gsp: this isn't windows we're talking about ;) |
| 06:57.42 | simonrvn | GhostDawg: throw in some make-kpkg magic, and you're done |
| 06:57.43 | tdwebste | Joris: I will check the console config and make sure it is not a module |
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| 06:57.52 | helix | debian: chinese mushrooms? |
| 06:57.54 | Joris | tdwebste: try waiting long enough and logging in blindly |
| 06:57.54 | Joris | simonrvn, GhostDawg, what does make defconfig do exactly? |
| 06:58.05 | helix | debian: are shiitake mushrooms chinese? |
| 06:58.10 | GhostDawg | I have no idea, first time hearing it |
| 06:58.13 | tdwebste | Joris: laughing you are serious?? |
| 06:58.18 | simonrvn | Joris: default config for the arch and cpu |
| 06:58.19 | Joris | tdwebste: dead serious |
| 06:58.25 | debian | helix: shiitake? |
| 06:58.32 | Joris | simonrvn: ah, ok - I bitched long enough for sensible defaults now :) |
| 06:58.35 | helix | debian: it's a type of mushroom |
| 06:58.42 | simonrvn | helix: japanese |
| 06:58.50 | GhostDawg | I'm just listening to all suggestions |
| 06:58.56 | Joris | tdwebste: you probably want CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE and CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE to be set to "y" |
| 06:58.59 | Supaplex | base.tar.gz was something I remember from potato. Is this in sarge or sid as well? (for chroot starter) |
| 06:59.02 | GhostDawg | I've done kernels before just like to get ideas |
| 06:59.04 | simonrvn | shiitake is a japanese word (don't ask me what it means) |
| 06:59.15 | GhostDawg | but I never done the 2.6 yet |
| 06:59.18 | debian | helix: I thought that's some kind of mushroom grown on shit. :) |
| 06:59.22 | tdwebste | Joris: let me check this out now, I will get back after I compile and reboot, thanks |
| 06:59.25 | simonrvn | Supaplex: called basedebs.tar now |
| 06:59.31 | zinx | debian: it's grown in pine trees i think |
| 06:59.47 | Joris | tdwebste: also try enabeling CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS |
| 06:59.49 | helix | simonrvn: ah, ok.. |
| 06:59.52 | helix | debian: heh, no |
| 06:59.54 | zinx | debian: like, they cut one down and drill holes in it and put the mushroom spores there :x |
| 07:00.01 | simonrvn | Supaplex: that's for woody. dunno if sarge does it or not |
| 07:00.34 | tdwebste | Joris: I will try those |
| 07:00.35 | debian | zinx: there's really mushroom grown on cow's shit here on sales.... :) |
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| 07:00.49 | debian | helix: it is like: http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:ocK0V0FZJZ8C:www.masan.go.kr/Chinese/expert/img/Mushroom.gif |
| 07:00.59 | zinx | debian: i think those are illegal here |
| 07:01.13 | helix | debian: those look like shriveled up testicles |
| 07:01.14 | zinx | debian: at least, the ones that are psycoactive are :P |
| 07:01.16 | helix | no thx |
| 07:01.25 | debian | zinx: not that mexico magic mushroom. no magic in them. :) |
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| 07:01.31 | zinx | debian: heheh :) |
| 07:01.47 | avatar | imagine being the guy who discovered magic mushrooms. |
| 07:02.04 | simonrvn | weee |
| 07:02.16 | zinx | as long as the cows are fed properly... (i.e., fed grass and such, not fed themselves) |
| 07:02.24 | helix | yuck |
| 07:02.25 | simonrvn | oh yeh.. |
| 07:02.25 | debian | helix: but most non-chinese hate them. Once my friend cook those mushroom in his dorm and someone called cops for suspicious poison leakage... |
| 07:02.31 | helix | hahaha |
| 07:02.37 | simonrvn | heh |
| 07:02.45 | zinx | only stupid americans would be crazy enough to feed cows to cows.. |
| 07:02.56 | debian | helix: you might like it though. We all love it |
| 07:03.02 | zignig | zinx: moo |
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| 07:03.10 | GhostDawg | cows eat meat? |
| 07:03.15 | helix | i am a fan of the fungus |
| 07:03.17 | zinx | GhostDawg: no, they don't. |
| 07:03.19 | Joris | zinx: I assume you're kidding, but... |
| 07:03.22 | avatar | if its ground up they will |
| 07:03.23 | GhostDawg | I didnt think so |
| 07:03.25 | debian | zinx: mooooMooo (I'm a crazy cow) |
| 07:03.26 | zinx | GhostDawg: that doesn't stop american farmers from feeding them meat, though |
| 07:03.33 | zignig | GhostDawg: it you feed them wheat meal with meat in it . |
| 07:03.36 | debian | Joris: that's for real |
| 07:03.37 | simonrvn | GhostDawg: no, some idiotic ranchers fed cow-laced feed to their cattle |
| 07:03.37 | GhostDawg | now if u talking bout hogs they eat anything |
| 07:03.37 | zinx | GhostDawg: trying to fatten them up so they can get a higher profit margin |
| 07:03.37 | jetscreamer | ugh strychnine or however you spell it |
| 07:03.48 | GhostDawg | ok |
| 07:03.50 | zinx | Joris: i'm not kidding, unfortunately |
| 07:03.52 | debian | Joris: people suspect that this was the cause of mad cow disease |
| 07:03.53 | simonrvn | s/fed/feed/ |
| 07:03.54 | Joris | debian: I know... we feed our chickens motor oil |
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| 07:03.56 | tdwebste | zinx: mad cows do eat meat, that is how they catch mad cow |
| 07:04.03 | GhostDawg | getting now you can't eat nothing |
| 07:04.07 | zinx | tdwebste: yes, i'm aware |
| 07:04.07 | GhostDawg | have to grow own food |
| 07:04.10 | debian | Joris: really? |
| 07:04.18 | zinx | tdwebste: they don't know they're eating it, though. they're herbivores. |
| 07:04.22 | zignig | zinx: http://www.rense.com/general48/mcoe.htm |
| 07:04.33 | GhostDawg | zinx: correct |
| 07:04.36 | zinx | tdwebste: they wouldn't eat meat normally |
| 07:04.41 | Joris | debian: yup, big scandal |
| 07:04.43 | simonrvn | debian: it is. it used to be called kuru in humans (now called CJD). you get it from eating human or monkey brains |
| 07:05.10 | SpmP | can anyone help me with noisy sound on playback using Alsa |
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| 07:05.24 | simonrvn | these little proteins called prions eat away at your brain, eventually killing you |
| 07:05.26 | Supaplex | beats mute sound. |
| 07:05.36 | tdwebste | zinx: true, you know they added blood to the mike replacer, that is how the caves caught the disease |
| 07:05.54 | zignig | simonrvn: prions are slightly more that just "proteins" |
| 07:05.59 | jetscreamer | and milk |
| 07:06.11 | simonrvn | zignig: yeh, but you get the point :) |
| 07:06.24 | tdwebste | those prions is why you should not use animal based suppliments |
| 07:06.38 | GhostDawg | really shouldn't eat meat at all |
| 07:06.40 | debian | simonrvn: I've always been told US has recycleed their exceesive livestocks :( |
| 07:06.48 | zignig | simonrvn: I do , I would call them retroviralpolythingobobeproteins |
| 07:06.54 | tdwebste | such as growth hormons |
| 07:07.03 | zignig | tdwebste: are they like mormons ? |
| 07:07.04 | simonrvn | zignig: *sigh* |
| 07:07.19 | zignig | simonrvn: :) |
| 07:07.19 | GhostDawg | eating meat is making your body a graveyard for dead animals :) |
| 07:07.40 | dondelelcaro | eating is like making your body a graveyard for dead living things.... |
| 07:07.47 | tdwebste | zignig: well the rules changes in 1997 I believe but that was almost 10 years after the problem occuried in the UK |
| 07:07.59 | simonrvn | living is like making a home for bacteria... |
| 07:08.08 | dondelelcaro | simonrvn: as is dying... |
| 07:08.12 | simonrvn | yup |
| 07:08.13 | jetscreamer | not |
| 07:08.17 | GhostDawg | well you can't make a living, Dead |
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| 07:08.48 | debian | jetscreamer: you know liver is the dirtiest organ in a living thing? |
| 07:09.02 | GhostDawg | and taste terrible |
| 07:09.03 | jetscreamer | not the lower intestines? |
| 07:09.13 | zinx | jetscreamer: liver cleans out toxins |
| 07:09.25 | zinx | jetscreamer: it accumulates them |
| 07:09.26 | GhostDawg | chitlins |
| 07:09.29 | GhostDawg | lol |
| 07:09.29 | zignig | debian: it also have lots of energy and vit D |
| 07:09.32 | zinx | until they can be expelled |
| 07:09.34 | debian | jetscreamer: but I like sushi and sashime. :) |
| 07:09.45 | avatar | so if you drink too much, your liver gets jampacked, eventually dies. |
| 07:09.51 | avatar | THATS WHY MARIJUANA SHOULD BE LEGAL |
| 07:09.56 | debian | zignig: yeah, but it filter toxic |
| 07:10.04 | GhostDawg | ayeeee, at reefer |
| 07:10.13 | GhostDawg | mother natures finest |
| 07:10.20 | avatar | speaking of which, brb |
| 07:10.27 | Shorty- | anyone here sucessfully rigged up two power supplies? |
| 07:10.33 | debian | avatar: hehe |
| 07:10.34 | GhostDawg | :) |
| 07:10.35 | simonrvn | avatar: hehehe :) |
| 07:10.42 | debian | avatar: if God made drug....why can't we.... |
| 07:11.01 | GhostDawg | debian, he did, reefer |
| 07:11.08 | jetscreamer | because ppl decide to take that right away from you |
| 07:11.11 | jetscreamer | a while ago |
| 07:11.20 | simonrvn | debian: eeew |
| 07:11.58 | simonrvn | debian: $deity *did* make drugs.. it's called medicine. from plants |
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| 07:12.32 | stew | $deity: undefined reference |
| 07:12.47 | mateusz | Hi, I can get my evolution to auth on courier-imapd-ssl.. Any help ? |
| 07:12.54 | tdwebste | guys, some of my friends do Marijuana, it is a major brain drug, very additive, but other than that quite relaxing (^_^) |
| 07:13.10 | The_Vulture | tdwebste: I'm sure we don't need to know |
| 07:13.19 | simonrvn | psychologically addictive |
| 07:13.33 | mateusz | ? |
| 07:13.43 | simonrvn | mateusz: it's ok |
| 07:13.54 | GhostDawg | Supaplex: go kill me |
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| 07:14.02 | avatar | marijuana is classified as psychoactive, yeah |
| 07:14.10 | mateusz | I mean I can't |
| 07:14.12 | simonrvn | with stinky socks, of course :P |
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| 07:14.17 | tdwebste | I am installing zope plone, and following the instructions in the readme the external method will not load |
| 07:14.17 | avatar | :D |
| 07:14.19 | tdwebste | ideas |
| 07:14.23 | mateusz | simonrvn: I mean I can't |
| 07:14.33 | GhostDawg | well I never known anybody soming weed and then drive a car and kill people |
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| 07:14.50 | GhostDawg | soming=smoking |
| 07:14.54 | simonrvn | mateusz: can you somehow specify the port to connect to in evo? |
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| 07:15.14 | simonrvn | tdwebste: google :) |
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| 07:15.37 | keta | morning all |
| 07:15.44 | simonrvn | hullo |
| 07:15.47 | zignig | keta: afternoon to you |
| 07:15.53 | Supaplex | I'm not sure if I had anyone in mind to mention this to. I was just accepted as a junior admin at our NOC. =) |
| 07:16.00 | tdwebste | simonrvn: ok, also you know to get a new zope user installed I had to open a second browser window and log into that one, |
| 07:16.01 | zignig | Supaplex: w00t ! |
| 07:16.07 | mateusz | simonrvn: I get connected in evo but I have that it can't auth... |
| 07:16.17 | simonrvn | tdwebste: no i don't. never used it |
| 07:16.20 | keta | zignig: heh |
| 07:16.21 | tdwebste | simonrvn: I learned this trick from an zope expert |
| 07:16.23 | Joris | this is odd... one morning both my laptop's batteries were "stuck" at 32% max charge, and that has over the past weeks slowly increased to 38% |
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| 07:16.44 | simonrvn | mateusz: check you server logs |
| 07:16.46 | simonrvn | your* |
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| 07:17.45 | simonrvn | mateusz: logs aren't there just to fill up your /var/log you know |
| 07:18.02 | Supaplex | true dat! |
| 07:18.02 | chris` | They aren't? |
| 07:18.08 | chris` | Fuck, there goes my theory |
| 07:18.10 | simonrvn | @lart chris` |
| 07:18.15 | mateusz | simonrvn: imapd-ssl: LOGIN FAILED, ip=[::ffff:192.168.1.210] that's all |
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| 07:18.38 | Supaplex | mateusz courier? |
| 07:18.40 | simonrvn | mateusz: dig some more, maybe auth.log for instance |
| 07:18.59 | mateusz | Supaplex: yes |
| 07:19.26 | chance2105 | Hey, is there an update today into testing that causes curses to break (make menuconfig fail)? |
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| 07:19.46 | stew | mateusz: is this a virtually hosted domain? like do you need to use mateusz@domain.com as username instead of just mateusz |
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| 07:21.31 | mateusz | stew: it's a local network with 7 users |
| 07:21.54 | mateusz | stew: no internet connection |
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| 07:22.13 | stew | mateusz: what is courier authing against? sasl? pam? mysql? |
| 07:22.14 | gsp | I still cant get java2 to work in Mozilla... |
| 07:22.19 | gsp | can soemone help? |
| 07:22.20 | mateusz | simonrvn: pam |
| 07:22.26 | mateusz | stew: pam |
| 07:22.32 | stew | mateusz: then nevermind what i was saying |
| 07:22.34 | gsp | I istalled the blackdown debs |
| 07:22.38 | gsp | installed |
| 07:22.50 | tdwebste | gsp: really, what kind of error? |
| 07:22.59 | gsp | I created the link in /usr/local/mozilla/plugins |
| 07:23.09 | gsp | but mozilla doesn't list it as a plugin |
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| 07:23.21 | gsp | no error.. just says I don't have the plugin installed |
| 07:23.21 | tdwebste | gsp: I used to use those now there is a j2sdk1.4.2 for debian, I use it instead |
| 07:23.33 | gsp | tdw?? |
| 07:23.35 | simonrvn | uh, that's because it should be in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.. |
| 07:23.48 | gsp | ok... |
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| 07:24.38 | mateusz | stew: why ? |
| 07:24.43 | gabod | anyone know if current kernels can still only have a 2tb as the largest block device ? |
| 07:24.57 | gsp | that may help simon! |
| 07:25.51 | stew | mateusz: if its pam you should be checking auth.log like simonrvn said |
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| 07:26.34 | helix | doh. i thought my lug meeting was tomorrow |
| 07:26.37 | helix | it's next week |
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| 07:27.04 | floppyears | does anybody know of a good application to use to write books besides open office? |
| 07:27.11 | floppyears | please |
| 07:27.28 | g4lt | gabod there's indications that there's some options that MAY expand this, but I wouldn't bet 2TB of disk on it... |
| 07:27.45 | tdwebste | floppyears: if you know how to use it latex has great formating, but is batch style :( |
| 07:27.53 | mateusz | stew: where courier stores logs... in /var/log/auth.log it dosen't conntain any entrys from courier |
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| 07:28.15 | stew | mateusz: does this work with imap but now imap-ssl? |
| 07:28.19 | floppyears | does anybody know of a good application to write a book besides open office? |
| 07:28.30 | cafuego | helix: getting old and forgetful eh |
| 07:28.31 | zignig | floppyears: texmacs , for technical books. |
| 07:28.40 | g4lt | floppyears LaTeX |
| 07:28.40 | zignig | floppyears: use vi or emacs. |
| 07:28.49 | zignig | g4lt: oooh , old skool :) |
| 07:28.58 | floppyears | zignig:I am looking for something a little bit gui oriented |
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| 07:29.15 | cafuego | floppyears: Any text editor + scribus |
| 07:29.21 | helix | cafuego: yeah, i guess the looming 24th birthday == alzheimers |
| 07:29.36 | floppyears | I am looking for gui oriented things |
| 07:29.44 | mateusz | stew: no |
| 07:29.52 | mateusz | stew: new configuration |
| 07:29.54 | js_ | floppyears: abiword? koffice? |
| 07:30.01 | helix | g4lt: sussudio said you told kawfee i was a guy |
| 07:30.19 | floppyears | do you guys know of a good gui frontend for LaTex |
| 07:30.22 | g4lt | no, I told kawfee to go ahead and believe you were... |
| 07:30.27 | zignig | floppyears: texmacs, as I said. |
| 07:30.29 | tdwebste | floppyears: I head good things about koffice, perhaps that is what you are looking for |
| 07:30.43 | mateusz | stew: ssmtp works fine but I can't get imaps to auth users... |
| 07:30.52 | helix | g4lt: oh ok. thanks! |
| 07:30.57 | tdwebste | floopyears: do youi know how to use LaTex? Tex? |
| 07:31.03 | g4lt | as in, I'd find it amusing if they did |
| 07:31.23 | helix | g4lt: well.. he harassed me for several days :) |
| 07:31.23 | mateusz | stew: is it ok to use CRAM-MD5 and force to STARTTLS on imaps ? |
| 07:31.25 | stew | mateusz: are you using courier for smtp too? |
| 07:31.32 | mateusz | stew: ye |
| 07:31.36 | floppyears | zignig:I am not writing a technical book |
| 07:31.49 | floppyears | I am writing a children's book |
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| 07:31.55 | helix | g4lt: I H8 U, UR S2P1D |
| 07:31.56 | mateusz | stew: is there something wrong with courier ? |
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| 07:32.27 | helix | haha |
| 07:32.44 | holycow | *hmmm* what is the tulip module labeled when you are in debian install kernel ethernet modules section? can't find a darn reference to it |
| 07:32.54 | jetscreamer | some ppl recommend courier highly |
| 07:33.08 | stew | mateusz: no, if you are using courier for both and smtp is working then its more likely a clientside problem since courier-mta and courier-imap use the same daemons for auth |
| 07:33.12 | streuner | !listkeys tulip |
| 07:33.13 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'tulip' by key (2 shown): tulip ;; 2.2 tulip. |
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| 07:33.29 | streuner | !listvals tulip |
| 07:33.31 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'tulip' by value (8 shown): conexant ;; tulip ;; fa310 ;; bridgecom nic ;; etherfast4-config ;; 2.2 tulip ;; scyld ;; start a nic war. |
| 07:33.31 | stew | mateusz: but i don't know if you can do cram-md5 with pam since cram requires cleartext passwords on the server if i remember correctly |
| 07:33.36 | helix | the word 'darn' is very funny to me |
| 07:33.48 | jetscreamer | !!!!!!!!!!!! streuner !!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 07:33.49 | floppyears | which one do you guys think is better for writing books that will have ilustrations: front end of LaTex or scribus? |
| 07:33.52 | holycow | helix, :) |
| 07:33.57 | jetscreamer | notice the precision |
| 07:34.00 | g4lt | holycow kernels/drivers/net/tulip, surprisingly |
| 07:34.12 | holycow | g4, no |
| 07:34.13 | holycow | heh |
| 07:34.15 | streuner | jetscreamer: JEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTSCCCCCCCCCCCCREAMMMMMMMEEEEEERRRR >!< |
| 07:34.33 | holycow | okay lemme take a look again then i must be doin summin wormg!!! |
| 07:34.38 | holycow | so wtf else is new? |
| 07:34.40 | g4lt | holycow it's that way with bf2.4 |
| 07:34.44 | holycow | streuner, danke :) |
| 07:34.46 | mateusz | stew: I'll try with plain but on ssmtp i use CRAM-MD5 and also via pam |
| 07:34.48 | tdwebste | my gaim is crashing, hmm, it was for so long, new bugs got into gaim? |
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| 07:35.06 | holycow | g4lt, *nod* i am installing that kernel, wait, perhaps something went wrong and it didnt install that... okay right! |
| 07:35.10 | Phedayeen | Hrm. I'm having a problem with Debian's apt-get on a base-install of Debian Woody. |
| 07:35.19 | mateusz | stew: You're right |
| 07:35.21 | Phedayeen | Thoughts? |
| 07:35.34 | jm_ | Phedayeen: we think it's a PEBKAC problem |
| 07:35.49 | mateusz | stew: I can't use CRAM-MD5 |
| 07:35.52 | Phedayeen | No problem between my keyboard and chair, thanks. |
| 07:35.59 | Phedayeen | I'm just a nix newb ^_^ |
| 07:36.02 | g4lt | jm_ s/think/know/ |
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| 07:36.23 | jm_ | Phedayeen: hence it's PEBKAC |
| 07:36.28 | g4lt | Phedayeen it's a PEBCA problem because you won't actually tell us wha the error is |
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| 07:36.39 | tdwebste | Phedayeen: can you give me a hint what your problem is |
| 07:36.41 | stew | mateusz: i think you can't use encrypted passwords on the wire unless there are clear passwords on the server, but you should worry about clear passwords since you are using ssl |
| 07:36.42 | mateusz | stew: THANKS alot |
| 07:36.42 | mr_claus | i get an error while upgrading sasl2-bin on testing, --> Stopping SASL Authentication Daemon: invoke-rc.d: initscript saslauthd, action "stop" failed |
| 07:36.45 | stew | mateusz: np |
| 07:36.46 | mr_claus | how can i solve that? |
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| 07:36.50 | Phedayeen | Hrm. It won't or can't access the package lits. |
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| 07:36.55 | tdwebste | Phedayeen: error? |
| 07:36.57 | Kazeuri | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:37.06 | Kazeuri | I currently have three servers like the one lsited above. Their speeds are 5000/500, 1000/300, and 500/50 |
| 07:37.08 | Phedayeen | apt-get install beep (I know it exists) gets me nothing. |
| 07:37.26 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search name maybe |
| 07:37.34 | jm_ | Phedayeen: did you read apt-get docs ? |
| 07:37.39 | Phedayeen | no |
| 07:37.40 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:37.44 | helix | bad boy |
| 07:37.44 | Phedayeen | How do I get to them ^_^ |
| 07:37.56 | jm_ | Phedayeen: cd /usr/share/doc/apt |
| 07:37.56 | holycow | g4lt, yeah, no mention of tulip anywhere |
| 07:37.57 | g4lt | Phedayeen have you even tried apt-setup or in fact actually set up anything at all in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 07:37.59 | tdwebste | Phedayeen: are you complaining that this has already been download and is not in your cache so it is not fetching it again? |
| 07:38.03 | jetscreamer | you have to read docs? |
| 07:38.06 | jetscreamer | omfg |
| 07:38.13 | helix | jetscreamer: yes! at tldp.org! |
| 07:38.28 | bob2 | Kazeuri: why would someone give a stranger on IRC access to such a machine? |
| 07:38.30 | jetscreamer | i never said i read them... |
| 07:38.38 | g4lt | holycow two lines underneath IRdA. I'm looking at it ATM |
| 07:38.39 | jetscreamer | (i have though) |
| 07:38.40 | Kazeuri | bob2: I've had such luck. |
| 07:38.50 | Kastr0 | how would i isntall tcl tk |
| 07:38.53 | Kazeuri | Plus I have proof (as in the site I will upload) as to what I am uploading. |
| 07:38.58 | cafuego | Kazeuri: What are you paying for it? |
| 07:38.58 | jm_ | Kastr0: do you know how to use apt-get ? |
| 07:39.05 | bob2 | Kazeuri: if you already have three other accounts, why do you need this? |
| 07:39.08 | Kastr0 | yah apt-get install |
| 07:39.10 | Kazeuri | cafuego: all of them are free |
| 07:39.12 | Kazeuri | 100% free |
| 07:39.16 | jm_ | well so use it to install tcl and tk |
| 07:39.22 | cafuego | Kazeuri: Oh, you want one from us for *free* |
| 07:39.27 | Kazeuri | bob2: I want atleast 4-5 in the "network" |
| 07:39.28 | cafuego | !lart Kazeuri |
| 07:39.29 | keta | I'm getting lost, does anyone know what chipset creative radeon 9600 (256mb ram) has? |
| 07:39.39 | bob2 | Kazeuri: wtf are you doing? |
| 07:39.40 | jm_ | keta: lspci -n will tell you |
| 07:39.48 | g4lt | keta surprisingly, a Radeon |
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| 07:39.51 | cafuego | Kazeuri: yes, "radeon" |
| 07:39.54 | helix | is this a joke? |
| 07:39.55 | cafuego | ehm, keta |
| 07:40.01 | Phedayeen | Umm, how would I set up Debian so it sees my switch, because it is having problems resolving hostnames. |
| 07:40.03 | keta | jm_: hah no, it says "Unknown" |
| 07:40.15 | cafuego | keta: No, it's a radeon |
| 07:40.23 | bob2 | Phedayeen: debian won't ever care about switches |
| 07:40.24 | jm_ | keta: yes, but it lists its PCI ID -> http://pciids.sourceforge.net/ |
| 07:40.26 | The_Vulture | Phedayeen: you don't "see" switches, they just work.. |
| 07:40.36 | keta | cafuego: no, i suspect it has an nforce2 chip |
| 07:40.36 | The_Vulture | Phedayeen: what's connected to your switch? |
| 07:40.49 | Phedayeen | CAT5e... |
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| 07:40.53 | cafuego | keta: if you tell X you have a radeon, that's what it will use. However, I believe you need the bianry firegl drivers form the ati website for it. |
| 07:41.07 | Phedayeen | rofl I probably sad something dumb. |
| 07:41.10 | The_Vulture | Phedayeen: what devices.. |
| 07:41.10 | cafuego | keta: The nforce2 is a bloody MAINBOARD, not a video card. |
| 07:41.10 | holycow | g4lt, that is so weird i have no entries for i, and i am looking at the kernel/drivers/net modules section ... i thank you for looking |
| 07:41.32 | cafuego | !lart keta |
| 07:41.46 | Phedayeen | The_Vulture: Don't understand your question. |
| 07:41.47 | dyne_user | hey, all |
| 07:41.52 | prajm | hi |
| 07:41.57 | dyne_user | need some help. figure this is the place to come. lol |
| 07:42.03 | keta | cafuego: ah, I want back my pdp11 |
| 07:42.07 | bob2 | LOLZ! |
| 07:42.13 | prajm | dyne_user: just ask your question :) |
| 07:42.13 | The_Vulture | Phedayeen: what things are connected to the switch? a couple of pcs? a router? what? and how are they configured? static IPs, DHCP, etc.. |
| 07:42.22 | cafuego | fuck, there must be something in the water |
| 07:42.26 | cafuego | !lart bob2 |
| 07:42.35 | GhostDawg | lol |
| 07:42.42 | dyne_user | like this room already |
| 07:42.48 | stew | Phedayeen: is your problem just with resolving hostnames or with connectivity in general? |
| 07:42.53 | Phedayeen | The_Vulture: Ic, External->Router->Switch->Me |
| 07:42.55 | GhostDawg | hot grits is dangerous |
| 07:43.07 | Phedayeen | The_Vulture: It mmight be resolving hostnames. |
| 07:43.08 | dyne_user | ok, here goes, i'm using deb 3 |
| 07:43.08 | helix | yum, grits |
| 07:43.08 | cafuego | depends on your age |
| 07:43.19 | dyne_user | yes, i do have a ? about hostnames, too |
| 07:43.23 | arauko | when i try to write a file into a ntfs partiton comes up = Permission denied, im root ideas? |
| 07:43.25 | prajm | dyne_user: this is a debian chan ? :) |
| 07:43.28 | The_Vulture | Phedayeen: so you have a router hooked up to a switch, and your pc hooked up to a switch, and how is your pcs interface configured? |
| 07:43.34 | g4lt | trust GhostDawg to have actually TRIED the hot grits thing... |
| 07:43.48 | prajm | dyne_user: erh ;) ? |
| 07:43.49 | GhostDawg | only with mouth |
| 07:43.53 | GhostDawg | :) |
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| 07:43.56 | dyne_user | i get error msg stating "hostname does not resolve or "domain" in inn.conf is missing". |
| 07:44.07 | g4lt | GhostDawg uhm, this it getting REALLY gross now.... |
| 07:44.12 | prajm | dyne_user: what are you trying to do ? :) |
| 07:44.13 | dyne_user | have checked my resolv.conf all seems ok there, and I can't find an inn.conf |
| 07:44.16 | dyne_user | have inn2 and innd |
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| 07:44.33 | GhostDawg | that meant eating them |
| 07:44.40 | cafuego | dyne_user: unless you have a frightening amount of bandwidth, you probably don't want innd. |
| 07:44.46 | GhostDawg | gotta love them tarballs, yum yum |
| 07:44.47 | Phedayeen | The_Vulture: The Linux box is set up as a VM right now, and I haven't configured a thing by hand, debian is straight out of the iso. |
| 07:44.56 | gsp | YAY! I got the damned blackdown thing working! |
| 07:45.10 | gsp | I can use JAVA in Mozilla now!! |
| 07:45.14 | dyne_user | have cable, but since it mentions inn.conf why do i have innd |
| 07:45.27 | cafuego | dyne_user: Are you trying to just access newsgroups? |
| 07:45.31 | The_Vulture | Phedayeen: "VM"? man 5 interfaces |
| 07:45.50 | gsp | that was goood... have some milk to go with it? |
| 07:46.06 | cafuego | !lactate gsp |
| 07:46.11 | g4lt | cafuego shhh, if he wants to pull an entire USENET feed for his pr0n, let him ;) |
| 07:46.18 | holycow | omfg |
| 07:46.20 | Phedayeen | The_Vulture: Virtual Machine. and I still don't understand "man 5 interfaces"... |
| 07:46.25 | cafuego | g4lt: even then there are betetr ways than inn |
| 07:46.26 | dyne_user | cafuego: I get connected to net but no browser. Moz won't start. I want to access news and be my own server to my websitge |
| 07:46.30 | holycow | g4lt, well sir you are correct |
| 07:46.33 | The_Vulture | Phedayeen: try "man man" then (at a terminal) |
| 07:46.43 | cafuego | dyne_user: SO how does that relate to inn? |
| 07:46.44 | holycow | goddamnit |
| 07:46.49 | keta | anyway is there a DFSG compliant alternative to firegl? apart from X with radeon framebuffer I'm using now |
| 07:46.58 | cafuego | keta: Maybe XF4.3 |
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| 07:47.15 | dyne_user | cafuego: can't figure that out. |
| 07:47.20 | Xenocide | is there a bug with menuconfig in 2.6.1? |
| 07:47.23 | arauko | when i try to write a file into a ntfs partiton comes up = Permission denied, im root ideas? |
| 07:47.25 | cafuego | dyne_user: dpkg --purge inn2 innd |
| 07:47.29 | holycow | i was expecting that under network interface cards heh |
| 07:47.31 | holycow | thanks! |
| 07:47.39 | cafuego | Xenocide: Yes-ish. Apply 2.6.2-rc1 |
| 07:47.46 | dyne_user | cafuego:and i use a framebuffer. will that make any difference? |
| 07:47.52 | cafuego | dyne_user: nope |
| 07:47.55 | dyne_user | k |
| 07:48.08 | gsp | arauko: isn't ntfs read only in most kernels? |
| 07:48.11 | Xenocide | cuz its looking like its building many many things i didnt ask fo |
| 07:48.20 | cafuego | dyne_user: inn is a USENET server, you neither need nor want it. |
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| 07:48.25 | WorkerII | Am I correct to assume that metacity somewhat sucks? |
| 07:48.31 | Phedayeen | The_Vulture: why am I supposed to do with all the help file? |
| 07:48.37 | The_Vulture | Phedayeen: get help |
| 07:48.40 | cafuego | wapart from the 'somewhat' bit, yes. |
| 07:48.41 | stew | WorkerII: yeah |
| 07:48.41 | dyne_user | cafuego: oooo, i see now |
| 07:48.42 | dyne_user | ok |
| 07:48.44 | dyne_user | tyvm |
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| 07:48.55 | jm_ | preda;use etherconf if you can write interfaces file manually |
| 07:48.55 | arauko | gsp, i included the rw feature |
| 07:48.55 | WorkerII | stew: What to use with gnome 2(.4) ? |
| 07:48.56 | dyne_user | i'm using apache |
| 07:49.03 | jm_ | Phedayeen: use etherconf if you can write interfaces file manually |
| 07:49.40 | dyne_user | whoooo this is a busy channel |
| 07:49.44 | Phedayeen | What's the web browers for debian? lynx? |
| 07:49.53 | g4lt | dyne_user try nntpcache |
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| 07:50.08 | g4lt | Phedayeen try links |
| 07:50.09 | jm_ | no, there are several web browsers available in Debian |
| 07:50.11 | The_Vulture | Phedayeen: that implies there's only one, which there isn't |
| 07:50.13 | The_Vulture | there are lots.. |
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| 07:50.22 | dyne_user | g4lt nntpcache? |
| 07:50.27 | The_Vulture | at a terminal, I use elinks, in X - firebird |
| 07:50.36 | keta | Phedayeen: there are several browsers. links-ssl is really neat |
| 07:50.39 | Phedayeen | *browsers. It was plurar. |
| 07:50.42 | g4lt | dyne_user small USENET server, that only pulls wha you need |
| 07:50.44 | Phedayeen | *plural. |
| 07:50.48 | stew | WorkerII: just try a couple of different ones until you find the one that you are gonna love |
| 07:50.49 | g4lt | ~info nntpcache |
| 07:50.56 | dyne_user | g4lt k |
| 07:51.03 | keta | Phedayeen: apt-cache search web browser. |
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| 07:51.18 | dyne_user | APT tells me moz is installed |
| 07:51.22 | The_Vulture | right you are, the use of "What's" and "the" threw me off |
| 07:51.49 | Phedayeen | I'll blame the type in browsers. |
| 07:51.51 | keta | dyne_user: no moz as apt states W: Unable to locate package moz |
| 07:52.02 | Phedayeen | TYPO. sticky keyboard. |
| 07:52.05 | dyne_user | but each time i cd into the folder, i get msg that moz is not a directory |
| 07:52.26 | The_Vulture | dyne_user: you aren't making much sense |
| 07:52.40 | Phedayeen | keta: Thx for the suggestion. apt doesn't work. |
| 07:52.51 | dyne_user | The_Vulture, neithr does deb.lolol |
| 07:52.59 | keta | apt: are you working? |
| 07:53.02 | | wish i knew, keta |
| 07:53.15 | keta | Phedayeen: yah, it doesn't |
| 07:53.50 | Phedayeen | keta: 8) |
| 07:53.55 | The_Vulture | dyne_user: makes a fair bit of sense to me.. |
| 07:54.01 | dyne_user | i'm trying to write the suggestions y'all stet her. |
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| 07:54.10 | dyne_user | The Vulture, lolol |
| 07:54.20 | linuxbox | what module would an SMC TX1244 use? |
| 07:54.22 | Xenocide | whats lolol mean anyways? |
| 07:54.32 | Xenocide | laughing out loud out loud? |
| 07:54.34 | keta | dyne_user: think about you were cd-ing in a directory and linux told you not such file or folder. it wuold be worse |
| 07:54.35 | linuxbox | NIC card that is. |
| 07:54.36 | dyne_user | lots and lots of laffs |
| 07:54.39 | Phedayeen | for the people you think it's twice as funny as lol |
| 07:54.48 | Phedayeen | keta: I can't get apt to access the net at all. |
| 07:54.49 | dyne_user | keta, yes that's right |
| 07:54.52 | jm_ | linuxbox: try discover |
| 07:54.53 | Xenocide | thats lalol |
| 07:55.01 | linuxbox | ok. |
| 07:55.18 | keta | Phedayeen: so fix your networking |
| 07:55.41 | Xenocide | dyne_user: remember that most linux filesystems are case sensative |
| 07:55.48 | keta | Phedayeen: and check the legacy of your apt sources |
| 07:55.59 | dyne_user | keta, i get connected to net, but no browser to surf with |
| 07:56.14 | linuxbox | thanks jm_ |
| 07:56.15 | dyne_user | maybe try a reinstall of moz? |
| 07:56.16 | Phedayeen | keta: legacy?? and fixing nix is easier said than done. |
| 07:56.28 | jm_ | linuxbox: np |
| 07:56.35 | keta | dyne_user: there's no fscking "moz" in debian. |
| 07:56.41 | linuxbox | any other ones i should try if that doesnt work? |
| 07:56.57 | Phedayeen | Keta: Phedayeen: and check the legacy of your apt sources |
| 07:57.04 | jm_ | it must work |
| 07:57.06 | dyne_user | keta, you mean no reinstall |
| 07:57.09 | linuxbox | ok. |
| 07:57.11 | keta | dyne_user: as me, maybe your box is expecting the proper commands and grammar |
| 07:57.41 | dyne_user | keta, it requires that for sure. |
| 07:57.41 | The_Vulture | Phedayeen: RTFM yet? |
| 07:57.42 | Xenocide | dyne_user: when you type in "mozilla" at the command line what's the output? |
| 07:57.51 | dyne_user | keta, have had mis-spelling errors. |
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| 07:58.10 | dyne_user | xenocide, that mozilla is not a directory |
| 07:58.14 | keta | dyne_user: mee to |
| 07:58.31 | keta | whops s/mee to/me too/ :) |
| 07:58.40 | dyne_user | keta, i'm surprised deb can even boot with my spelling. haha |
| 07:58.47 | Phedayeen | The_Vulture: still trying to figure out why I'm learning howto man. |
| 07:59.04 | helix | huh? |
| 07:59.06 | keta | Phedayeen: man apt-setup |
| 07:59.12 | The_Vulture | Phedayeen: well so far it seems like you aren't learning, if you were reading man 5 interfaces, you'd know you were learning about how to configure your network interfaces |
| 07:59.19 | helix | apt-setup is so easy it shouldn't even have a man page |
| 07:59.39 | keta | heh |
| 07:59.51 | tdwebste | when booting my 2.6.1 kernel, after it says loading bios, I get "sync out of range" |
| 08:00.06 | keta | helix: an easy man page is an easy start |
| 08:00.20 | dyne_user | keta, what does the error msg, "hostname does not resolve or "domain" in inn.conf is missing"? I don't have an inn.conf |
| 08:00.30 | tdwebste | this is not an X problem, this some sort of "console problem" |
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| 08:01.02 | stew | tdwebste: sounds like you maybe booted in to a framebuffer kernel at a higher resolution than your monitor can handle and your monitor is telling you that |
| 08:01.10 | keta | dyne_user: it sounds like a dns error |
| 08:01.22 | tdwebste | stew: thanks, I will check into that, |
| 08:01.22 | Phedayeen | The_Vulture: 'Something wicked happened resolving debian.pipecom.com:ftp' |
| 08:01.26 | dyne_user | keta, i've checked my resolv.conf and it's right |
| 08:01.35 | stew | tdwebsite try by booting Linux vga=normal |
| 08:01.38 | The_Vulture | Phedayeen: great, configure your interfaces as per man 5 interfaces |
| 08:01.41 | Phedayeen | The_Vulture: in the proccess of apt-setup. |
| 08:01.50 | dyne_user | Phedayeen, I've seen that msg, too. ;-) |
| 08:02.17 | keta | dyne_user: which program gives you that error? |
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| 08:02.34 | dyne_user | keta, i cannot find the file, inn.conf, to peruse, tho |
| 08:02.45 | dyne_user | keta, on boot |
| 08:02.47 | razielsoul | hi, im looking for a icq client for gnome, that support transparent windows at full, any suggestion?! |
| 08:03.18 | keta | dyne_user: apt-cache show inn |
| 08:03.19 | bob2 | doesn't exist |
| 08:03.26 | bob2 | and stop obsessing over transparent windows |
| 08:03.29 | dyne_user | keta, i'm using dynebolic right now to get in here. |
| 08:03.32 | bob2 | a) lame, b) not possible with X |
| 08:03.32 | razielsoul | hehehe |
| 08:03.34 | nevyn | umm |
| 08:03.37 | tdwebste | stew: I just removed my framebuffer console support, then I will try booting vga=normal |
| 08:03.41 | nevyn | gaim on the fd.o xserver |
| 08:03.42 | razielsoul | bob2 possible with what?! |
| 08:03.57 | nevyn | bob2: that's not true. |
| 08:04.01 | Phedayeen | gaim. |
| 08:04.14 | razielsoul | gaim does?! |
| 08:04.17 | nevyn | not possible with xfree86 true. not possible with X flase |
| 08:04.20 | Phedayeen | gaim does icq. |
| 08:04.20 | g4lt | I love it: transparent windows at maximized. Hell, may as well ask for a true 3d window mangler at the same time and eggs in your beer FFS |
| 08:04.26 | stew | tdwebste: how did you remove framebuffer console support? |
| 08:04.27 | keta | bob2: but trasparent aterm is l33t! |
| 08:04.31 | bob2 | nevyn: right |
| 08:04.40 | tdwebste | stew: compile option |
| 08:04.41 | bob2 | razielsoul: don't bother |
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| 08:04.53 | bob2 | if you care that much about transparent windows, setting it up will be too complicated for you |
| 08:04.57 | stew | tdwebste: you should edit lilo.conf |
| 08:05.06 | razielsoul | wich server(x) runs they?! |
| 08:05.14 | tdwebste | stew: I did that is where I set vga=normal |
| 08:05.24 | The_Vulture | razielsoul: you really aren't making much sense |
| 08:05.30 | The_Vulture | and stop with the excessive punctuation |
| 08:05.34 | Xenocide | gnome transparencies are just transparent to the background last I knew |
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| 08:05.48 | Xenocide | and slow as hell |
| 08:05.57 | stew | yeah, edit /etc/lilo.conf then run lilo |
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| 08:06.24 | razielsoul | The_Vulture sorry |
| 08:06.51 | razielsoul | yeah, the only thing i got transparency here is xchat and gnome terminal |
| 08:07.18 | bob2 | razielsoul: move a window under xchat |
| 08:07.24 | bob2 | razielsoul: can you see the window? |
| 08:07.33 | razielsoul | let me check |
| 08:07.36 | Xenocide | heh |
| 08:07.40 | dyne_user | thanks for help all. i'll be back. |
| 08:07.44 | razielsoul | ah, i see |
| 08:07.45 | Xenocide | you should have figured that out by now |
| 08:08.11 | razielsoul | damn, that sux...wish to get any server or anything that support then all |
| 08:08.19 | Xenocide | bob2: you know if gdesklets show up in "transparent" backgrounds? |
| 08:08.27 | The_Vulture | razielsoul: forget about it |
| 08:08.34 | marinos | aterm is using no real transparency |
| 08:08.34 | Xenocide | razielsoul: I dont think its part of the X protoco |
| 08:08.57 | razielsoul | damn |
| 08:09.00 | razielsoul | they are pretty |
| 08:09.10 | razielsoul | the only thing i like in micro$oft... |
| 08:09.14 | Xenocide | they're pretty cpu intensive |
| 08:09.38 | bob2 | Xenocide: it won't show up either. gdesklets are just programs that set themself stacked below everything and do the same transparency hack as Exterm |
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| 08:09.52 | Xenocide | ah, thats why |
| 08:09.52 | bob2 | freedesktop.org's x server can do it |
| 08:09.52 | bob2 | slowly |
| 08:10.55 | razielsoul | i use gdesklets here, but is not full transparency since, it sjust a desktop one |
| 08:10.55 | Xenocide | i suppose its possible with a designiation "transparent" and a painter's algorithm |
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| 08:10.55 | marinos | bob2: have you tried it ? |
| 08:11.09 | bob2 | Xenocide: windows that aren't on top may not be visible at all. the actual image for their windows apparently doesn't exist. |
| 08:11.13 | bob2 | marinos: no |
| 08:11.23 | Gaso_er_wapo | who speak spanish¿? |
| 08:11.26 | marinos | hmm |
| 08:11.38 | razielsoul | Gaso_er_wapo i speak portuguese, little bit spanish |
| 08:11.50 | Gaso_er_wapo | ola |
| 08:11.52 | Xenocide | bob2: ? |
| 08:12.01 | Gaso_er_wapo | hello |
| 08:12.03 | razielsoul | ola |
| 08:12.04 | bob2 | !+spanish |
| 08:12.05 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 08:12.12 | bob2 | Gaso_er_wapo: Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. |
| 08:12.16 | holycow | bob2 have you run xfrees server? i'm going to try iton another machine in the near future i hope |
| 08:12.17 | Gaso_er_wapo | de donde eres? |
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| 08:12.28 | bob2 | gah |
| 08:12.29 | bob2 | Gaso_er_wapo: Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. |
| 08:12.51 | razielsoul | Gaso_er_wapo brazil |
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| 08:13.03 | bob2 | Xenocide: if a window is under xchat, even the X server can't access what it would look like, so it can't draw a transparent version of it |
| 08:13.04 | razielsoul | Gaso_er_wapo #debian-es |
| 08:13.17 | streuner_ | kick him bob2, that's our friend 'usario' :-) |
| 08:13.27 | Gaso_er_wapo | ok |
| 08:13.28 | razielsoul | wtf is usario?! |
| 08:13.33 | Gaso_er_wapo | bye bue prettys |
| 08:13.37 | Gaso_er_wapo | ola nora |
| 08:13.43 | bob2 | streuner_: yeah, 3 of them |
| 08:13.45 | saty | ola |
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| 08:13.53 | *** mode/#debian [-o bob2] by bob2 |
| 08:13.56 | streuner_ | with the same IP... |
| 08:13.57 | Xenocide | bob2: the rendering is all done on the local host, right? what part of the furthest down up rendering algorithm is broken? |
| 08:13.58 | razielsoul | what is usario?! |
| 08:14.00 | bob2 | saty: Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. |
| 08:14.05 | bob2 | razielsoul: an idiot spammer |
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| 08:14.17 | razielsoul | bob2 nice |
| 08:14.20 | bob2 | holycow: you mean freedesktop.org's? no. it's safe to install alongside regular xfree86, tho |
| 08:14.39 | holycow | ah it is? oh that neat i had no idea :) thx |
| 08:14.43 | bob2 | marinos: keep meaning too, though, it looks quite interesting. |
| 08:14.47 | helix | razielsoul: usuario actually. it means 'user' in spanish.. |
| 08:15.00 | marinos | there is A LOT of software there |
| 08:15.05 | bob2 | holycow: jus install the binaries, and change the /etc/X11/X symlink. change it back when you're done. |
| 08:15.32 | marinos | the point is in what order an for what purpose everything should be used |
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| 08:15.48 | gsp | how do I give this user access to the drive mounted on /mnt? |
| 08:15.51 | saty | bob |
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| 08:16.06 | bob2 | saty: Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. |
| 08:16.10 | holycow | okay thats neat, takin notes on that :) |
| 08:16.11 | razielsoul | helix it means user in portuguese too, thats why i was asking |
| 08:16.11 | The_Vulture | gsp: man mount && man fstab |
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| 08:16.12 | marinos | gsp: what user what drive ? |
| 08:16.34 | gsp | user=gsp drive = /mnt |
| 08:16.35 | The_Vulture | gsp: pay special attention to the type-specific mount options (things like gid, uid and umask) |
| 08:16.40 | g4lt | bob2 just wildcard rima-tde and avoid the hassle |
| 08:16.47 | helix | razielsoul: yeah.. they're similar :) |
| 08:16.51 | saty | ey bob what do you say? |
| 08:16.53 | bob2 | g4lt: heh |
| 08:16.56 | helix | bob2: it's great when you espeak espaneesh |
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| 08:17.06 | bob2 | helix: hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooola! |
| 08:17.15 | holycow | hahaha :) |
| 08:17.17 | marinos | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:17.32 | streuner_ | hehe |
| 08:17.34 | helix | bob2: ayyyyyy dios mio, tu puta madre |
| 08:17.38 | marinos | so you want the user to write on it am i right |
| 08:17.40 | razielsoul | aeuehuehae |
| 08:17.43 | razielsoul | puta madre |
| 08:17.43 | g4lt | gsp man mount and man fstab |
| 08:17.46 | razielsoul | heheh cool filho da puta |
| 08:17.53 | gsp | I'm looking at the man |
| 08:18.00 | g4lt | bob2 I think you're on... |
| 08:18.14 | gsp | marinos that's where the drive is mounted. |
| 08:18.23 | gsp | the drive is /dev/hde1 |
| 08:18.35 | The_Vulture | keep reading.. |
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| 08:18.58 | marinos | gsp: good then you'll have to change the acces rights ... |
| 08:19.29 | gsp | marinos: that's my question how do I do that? |
| 08:19.35 | marinos | gsp: or you can make a directory with the access rights of the user whou you want to write into it |
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| 08:19.58 | The_Vulture | marinos: that makes no difference as to the rights of the mounted filesystem |
| 08:20.07 | marinos | gsp: chown -R gsp:gsp /mnt/directory |
| 08:20.14 | The_Vulture | gsp: go read about the options I mentioned in man mount |
| 08:20.30 | gsp | I got it Vulture... readin the fstab man |
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| 08:20.51 | marinos | The_Vulture: he only wants to use the mounted directory not to mount it as user |
| 08:20.54 | The_Vulture | most people (afaik) create a group, use gid, and umask to give rights to the group, then add themselves to that group |
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| 08:21.25 | The_Vulture | marinos: that doesn't make sense, in any case the permissions of the mount point have no effect on the permissions of the actual mounted filesystem as far as I know |
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| 08:21.54 | marinos | gsp: it depends on what filesystem you are using |
| 08:22.26 | marinos | The_Vulture: it depends on what filesystem you are using ...windows FS need to be mount customized ....ext2,3 dont |
| 08:22.28 | The_Vulture | right, and he can find all the details for whatever filesystem it is, in the mount man page |
| 08:23.01 | The_Vulture | marinos: no it doesn't, I have a nicely mounted fat32 filesystem and I created the mount point as root.. |
| 08:23.11 | The_Vulture | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct 20 2002 windows |
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| 08:23.28 | The_Vulture | and after I mount the filesystem: drwxrwxr-x 8 root windisk 8192 Jan 1 1970 windows |
| 08:23.31 | The_Vulture | magic.. |
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| 08:23.48 | gsp | what does noauto mean? |
| 08:23.58 | marinos | The_Vulture: thats what i mean windows fs (fatxy ,ntfs ) are mount customized |
| 08:24.09 | The_Vulture | gsp: the fstab man page covers that |
| 08:24.16 | gsp | damnit |
| 08:24.18 | marinos | gsp: the filesystem is not mounted on boot |
| 08:24.19 | The_Vulture | marinos: huh? |
| 08:24.29 | The_Vulture | what do you mean "mount customized"? |
| 08:24.32 | gsp | see... marinos knows how to spoon feed me |
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| 08:24.40 | gsp | :oP |
| 08:24.47 | The_Vulture | you don't need to touch the permissions on the mount point, they are adjusted when you mount it.. |
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| 08:25.08 | The_Vulture | it's all about uid, gid, and umask (for fat32 at least, and some other filesystems, but not necessariy all) |
| 08:25.12 | marinos | The_Vulture: i mean you set something like uid and guid in the mount command,fstap so it is mounted uder this group a user |
| 08:25.28 | saty | fuck fou |
| 08:25.46 | The_Vulture | marinos: right, but no filesystem that I know of inherits permissions from its mount point or anything like that.. |
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| 08:26.30 | marinos | The_Vulture: no but if you change the permitions of a mounted filesystem ,, the filesystem takes the permission and not the directory which it is mounted on |
| 08:26.48 | The_Vulture | marinos: right, so why were you talking about changing the permissions of the mount point? (chown etc.) |
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| 08:26.53 | The_Vulture | it's irrelevent |
| 08:27.50 | marinos | The_Vulture: if you change the permissions of /mnt while the filesystem is mounted on it ...the filesystemis going to take the permissions ...ok maybe i've didtnt set it right |
| 08:28.09 | marinos | anyway |
| 08:28.41 | marinos | god my english sucks |
| 08:29.05 | The_Vulture | better than my german |
| 08:29.12 | marinos | heh |
| 08:29.57 | marinos | i dont want to hear me speak english right now it would be a desaster i think |
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| 08:31.09 | john | Can someone tell me what package I have to install to get Russian fonts in GTK ?? |
| 08:31.22 | jo_ | you, installing debian again for the second time, first time was like a year ago and i used floopies, im going to burn to a cd this time, how many cds do i need for like woody or sid ? |
| 08:31.40 | jo_ | i only have 2 cds |
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| 08:33.06 | jm_ | one netinst CD |
| 08:33.52 | helix | !kill SlayerXP |
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| 08:34.14 | SlayerXP | !redhat helix |
| 08:34.23 | SlayerXP | oh shame |
| 08:34.23 | jm_ | sometimes it would help if nick changes were channel specific :P |
| 08:34.45 | SlayerXP | should be something like "* dpkg removes 50 IQ points from <whoever>" |
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| 08:35.50 | WorkerII | !eat helix |
| 08:35.57 | helix | HAHAH |
| 08:35.59 | helix | YOU SUCK |
| 08:36.17 | Chris_Work | Hey -- I have enabled ssh forwardin on my SSH server, and ssh -X 'd to my machine I want to run an X app from, and it doesnt work.. can anyone please help |
| 08:36.18 | SlayerXP | helix: I nibble gently, too. It drives women wild. |
| 08:36.21 | g4lt | SlayerXP I'd say write the factoid, but cmd: redhat (.*?) is, shall we say, a major fucking PITA |
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| 08:36.42 | helix | SlayerXP: you make me want to vomit |
| 08:36.50 | jm_ | chris:/msg apt sshx |
| 08:36.55 | jm_ | Chris_Work ^^^^^^^^^^^ |
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| 08:37.05 | g4lt | SlayerXP my advice is don't write a cmd:redhat (.*?) factoid |
| 08:37.27 | drwarner | how do i generate a new cert and key for apache-ssl? |
| 08:37.27 | WorkerII | SlayerXP : Heh .. you allready drove her so wild that she is about to vomit! |
| 08:37.27 | g4lt | ~factinfo cmd: redhat (.*?) |
| 08:37.27 | | g4lt: there's no such factoid as CMD: redhat (.*?) |
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| 08:37.34 | oniricozone | Chris_Work, you have read the sshd.conf? |
| 08:37.35 | g4lt | !factinfo cmd: redhat (.*?) |
| 08:37.35 | dpkg | g4lt: there's no such factoid as CMD: redhat (.*?) |
| 08:37.37 | SlayerXP | WorkerII: I get that a lot. |
| 08:37.41 | JosephSpiros | hmm |
| 08:37.49 | g4lt | simonrvn been a bit busy? ;P |
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| 08:38.16 | JosephSpiros | using rarpd installed via apt, is there any recommended way, other than editing the init.d script, to tell rarp to work on a particular interface? |
| 08:38.49 | Chris_Work | oniricozone, yeah I have .. and I know it works as I have seen it done on this machine before |
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| 08:39.02 | razielsoul | how i search for a install package by its name |
| 08:39.11 | razielsoul | like i wanna find licq, but i only know is a icq client |
| 08:39.21 | razielsoul | so i search by icq |
| 08:39.22 | bob2 | apt-cache search icq |
| 08:39.22 | cheecheeo | razielsoul: apt-cache search |
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| 08:39.39 | razielsoul | it listen installed packageS?! |
| 08:39.53 | razielsoul | i wanna know for installed packages, not to search for install... |
| 08:39.53 | jo_ | jm_ one netinst CD |
| 08:39.56 | bob2 | no |
| 08:39.56 | jo_ | what does tha tmean |
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| 08:40.24 | jo_ | s/tmean/mean |
| 08:40.25 | jm_ | jo_: it means what it says |
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| 08:40.36 | jo_ | jm_ one floppie ? |
| 08:40.43 | jm_ | jo_: no, one CD |
| 08:40.50 | jo_ | err, |
| 08:40.51 | jo_ | ok |
| 08:40.52 | jm_ | Joris: www.debian.org/CD and read |
| 08:40.56 | jo_ | k |
| 08:41.00 | jm_ | jo_ ^^^^^^^^ |
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| 08:43.29 | jo_ | umm.. i did |
| 08:43.34 | jo_ | woody = stable correct ? |
| 08:43.43 | jo_ | i was on woody last time |
| 08:43.45 | jo_ | woody 3.0 |
| 08:44.25 | bda | 3.0r2 is the most recent stable release. |
| 08:44.36 | helix | !vladi |
| 08:44.36 | dpkg | vladi is, like, http://www.double-helix.org/etc/vlad_shorttail.jpg, or tired |
| 08:44.39 | helix | hm |
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| 08:44.52 | jo_ | ~hello apt |
| 08:44.54 | jo_ | ~hello dpkg |
| 08:44.59 | helix | dpkg: no, vladi is http://www.double-helix.org/etc/vlad_the_stampede.jpg |
| 08:45.00 | dpkg | okay, helix |
| 08:45.00 | jo_ | dam, i forgot the commands |
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| 08:45.24 | bda | helix: That is disturbing. |
| 08:45.32 | helix | bda: why? |
| 08:45.33 | jo_ | if i recall |
| 08:45.42 | bda | Cat head superimposed on Vash? I dunno. :P |
| 08:45.49 | jo_ | when i was on 3.0 woody* i couldn't get the latest gaim |
| 08:45.53 | helix | bda: my cat is vash in spirit |
| 08:45.56 | jo_ | so sid might be the one i need |
| 08:46.02 | bda | helix: Donut-eating? |
| 08:46.15 | helix | bda: yeah. and overall clumsy - but quite a swift assassin |
| 08:46.20 | bda | Heh. |
| 08:46.43 | helix | i just have to giggle when people upgrade their entire distribution for gaim |
| 08:46.51 | bda | Heh. |
| 08:47.04 | bda | Well, you don't have to do a dist-upgrade. Just grab gaim and whatever it depends on.. |
| 08:47.09 | GhostDawg | o.o kilroy was here |
| 08:47.22 | helix | GhostDawg: huh? |
| 08:47.23 | bda | I've done that for things, because I'm lazy and full of not caring. |
| 08:47.34 | helix | i use sid.. but i'm just saying |
| 08:47.41 | helix | to upgrade for one little piece of software? |
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| 08:47.45 | helix | *gaim* at that |
| 08:47.53 | bda | Heh. I did it yesterday for netatalk. :) |
| 08:48.03 | helix | !laugh at bda |
| 08:48.04 | dpkg | HAHAHA! AH-HAHA! bda just cracks me up! |
| 08:48.13 | bda | Because stable netatalk doesn't support sane logging, and was throwing file lock errors on the client. |
| 08:48.24 | bda | Not that it helped. maxdebug is useless. |
| 08:48.45 | helix | stracing is fun |
| 08:48.53 | bda | Sure, if you don't have better things to do. :) |
| 08:50.44 | jo_ | jm_ whats normal now day sid or sarge ? |
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| 08:51.27 | WorkerII | helix: ptrace is also not bad. |
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| 08:51.29 | jm_ | jo_: you can't install sid, woody is still last release but there are beta sarge installers available too |
| 08:51.49 | e-coli | Is a bf2.4 iso an iso of a CD installer that is based on boot floppies? |
| 08:52.17 | jo_ | jm_ when i had woody i couldn't upgrade gaim, i was told that i needed a backport, everyone that was on sarge could i think |
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| 08:54.14 | jm_ | jo_: yes, correct |
| 08:54.26 | jo_ | ok, so sarge is what i need |
| 08:54.34 | WorkerII | jo_ as long as you don't frontport. |
| 08:54.53 | holycow | nite all |
| 08:55.22 | jm_ | jo_: sarge doesn't get security fixes, keep that in mind |
| 08:55.29 | jo_ | -wtf, 9 iso's |
| 08:55.36 | jo_ | o ok |
| 08:55.42 | jm_ | just 9 ? I thought it's more |
| 08:55.51 | jo_ | lol, to much |
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| 08:56.04 | zinx | this is why you get an installer and use the intarweb |
| 08:56.19 | zinx | so you don't have to download a bunch of useless crap you have no use for |
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| 08:56.26 | jm_ | jo_: don't download full ISO-s, look if there's netinst image, use that and then install the rest via http/ftp mirrors |
| 08:56.46 | jo_ | wow |
| 08:56.55 | jo_ | k |
| 08:57.05 | Shorty- | does anyone here know how to set up multiple power supplies? |
| 08:57.09 | jo_ | yeah last time i did a netinstall jm_ had to use 6 floppies |
| 08:57.31 | zinx | Shorty-: what do you mean multiple power supplies? |
| 08:57.48 | jerome | jo_: the best thing you can do is dl debootstrap and go all the way from there |
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| 08:58.04 | jerome | ups ? |
| 08:58.37 | jo_ | so does the mini just allow you to boot into debian ? |
| 08:58.40 | Shorty- | nah |
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| 08:58.47 | Shorty- | I need more juice for my hdds in the fileserver |
| 08:58.57 | zinx | Shorty-: get a better power supply, not another one |
| 08:59.09 | Shorty- | I can't afford it |
| 08:59.21 | Shorty- | I'd really like to, but I can't afford it |
| 08:59.30 | Shorty- | it will be the next thing I get though |
| 08:59.33 | zinx | Shorty-: how'd you manage a fileserver that outdoes your power supply, then? |
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| 08:59.59 | Shorty- | zinx: christmas is such a wonderful thing. ;) |
| 09:00.08 | Shorty- | and I never thought it an issue |
| 09:00.28 | Shorty- | but the hdds are dropping in and out, and I've replaced cables, so I think its a psu issue |
| 09:00.31 | w0wie | i need a plugin called java vm or something |
| 09:00.37 | zinx | Shorty-: it's going to take a lot of work to get both power supplies working |
| 09:00.37 | w0wie | can i apt-get it |
| 09:00.59 | Shorty- | zinx: I thought it was a simple *short this pin to 12+* and it'd fire up? |
| 09:01.01 | jo_ | apt-cache search <name> if i recall |
| 09:01.04 | zinx | Shorty-: the simplest way i can think of is some really sweet diodes, but that probably has issues, and i don't know that much about the evils of electronics |
| 09:01.12 | zinx | Shorty-: _NO_ |
| 09:01.17 | Shorty- | on the atx header |
| 09:01.30 | Shorty- | thats hwo the mobo tells the psu to fire up in the first place, or so I was told |
| 09:01.38 | jo_ | do you have to compile the kernel in debain ? i remember apt-geting it once |
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| 09:01.51 | zinx | Shorty-: oh, erh, hds on different power supply |
| 09:01.51 | e-coli | w0wie: /msg dpkg java-plugin |
| 09:02.06 | Shorty- | yeh |
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| 09:02.27 | gsp | I still can't figure out how to give myself access to my drive.. |
| 09:02.37 | gsp | I want to mount it to the point /WinXP |
| 09:02.44 | Shorty- | yeh?> |
| 09:02.45 | Shorty- | what fs? |
| 09:02.46 | gsp | and I want gsp to read and write to it |
| 09:02.50 | gsp | vfat |
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| 09:02.52 | Shorty- | ok |
| 09:02.55 | gsp | I can mount it... |
| 09:02.57 | e-coli | that's an old msg though |
| 09:02.57 | zinx | Shorty-: there's some wires you probably need to split, and send to both power supplies |
| 09:03.04 | The_Vulture | gsp: so what does the gid and umask option do for a vfat filesystem? |
| 09:03.15 | Shorty- | mount -t vfat /dev/hddhere /mnt/blah -o uid=youruidhere,gid=yourgidhere |
| 09:03.15 | zinx | Shorty-: but uh, i question stability in such a system :x |
| 09:03.21 | gsp | I tried -o gid=gsp |
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| 09:03.29 | The_Vulture | ~tell gsp about vfatrw |
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| 09:03.42 | The_Vulture | gsp: did you try using the umask option too? |
| 09:03.42 | Shorty- | wheres apt these days |
| 09:03.53 | Shorty- | ahah |
| 09:03.53 | Shorty- | :/ |
| 09:03.53 | gsp | I didn't understand umask |
| 09:03.56 | The_Vulture | ~test |
| 09:03.57 | | Failed |
| 09:04.04 | The_Vulture | gsp: man chmod might help with that |
| 09:04.04 | e-coli | The_Vulture: man mount |
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| 09:04.24 | The_Vulture | e-coli: I'm well aware of the relevent mount options |
| 09:04.32 | The_Vulture | gsp isn't, apparentlyu |
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| 09:05.16 | e-coli | The_Vulture: its in there |
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| 09:05.37 | The_Vulture | I know it is, I've read it, I've told him to read it, I was querying him to see if he understood the bits he needed to understand |
| 09:05.44 | gsp | ok... I need to add gid=SOMEGROUP then adduser myself to that group? |
| 09:05.58 | The_Vulture | gsp: sure, but you'll still want to read about the umask option.. |
| 09:06.20 | The_Vulture | if you really insist on not understanding the docs, /msg apt vfatrw |
| 09:06.42 | gsp | it doesn't really tell me much about the umask option |
| 09:07.06 | gsp | set teh umask (bitmask of permissions that aren't present) |
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| 09:07.26 | gsp | is there a man for umask? |
| 09:08.06 | g4lt | gsp is there? man -k is your friend |
| 09:08.43 | gsp | I feel like I'm in the 3rd grade... can't anyone give a straight answer to a question... |
| 09:08.51 | gsp | it's like you're all sitting over there snickering |
| 09:09.02 | gsp | "this ougt to frustrate him further" |
| 09:09.10 | GhostDawg | lol |
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| 09:09.32 | e-coli | something like gid=1002,umask=007 will give user 1002 +rwx on the mount |
| 09:09.37 | GhostDawg | yes sometimes it seems that way |
| 09:09.44 | gsp | thank you e-coli |
| 09:09.49 | gsp | I can figure that out |
| 09:09.54 | gsp | I just needed an example |
| 09:10.06 | gsp | I found the /etc/group file |
| 09:10.22 | SlayerXP | woo |
| 09:10.22 | gsp | so I know the id |
| 09:10.26 | g4lt | gsp no, what we're doing is not laughing at you, we'r trying to help you in such a manner that you don't need to ask for help next time |
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| 09:11.07 | gsp | I still don't undestand what the ,umask=007 is doing |
| 09:11.14 | e-coli | but above will also give other -rwx umask is opposite of what perms are |
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| 09:11.30 | Taoub | can ayone help me with my problem? system freeze on mounting /proc in boot |
| 09:11.33 | g4lt | gsp did you ever man umask? |
| 09:11.48 | gsp | no I was reading about it in the mount man |
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| 09:12.06 | Csan | hi. Is rfc1415 (FTP-FTAM Gateway Specification) implemented and available in Debian? How, what packages? |
| 09:12.07 | g4lt | Taoub mounting procfs isn't absolutely necessary, try it without |
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| 09:12.39 | Taoub | g4lt, really??? i thought it critial for system |
| 09:12.49 | Csan | Taoub it's not |
| 09:13.17 | e-coli | gsp: r=4 w=2 x=1 so 700 = rwx --- --- 701 = rwx --- --x etc... umask is inversion of that |
| 09:14.00 | Taoub | Csan, g4lt ok i'm trying to restart (comment line in fstab for /proc) |
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| 09:14.29 | gsp | ok r is read... w is write... x is ? |
| 09:14.40 | gsp | and i'm getting the bit thing... octal here? |
| 09:14.41 | Csan | execute (or exnetr for dirs) |
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| 09:14.44 | Csan | enter |
| 09:14.53 | gsp | 111 = 7? |
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| 09:15.01 | Csan | --x--x--x |
| 09:15.03 | e-coli | gsp: execute |
| 09:15.03 | Csan | nah |
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| 09:15.05 | Csan | wrong |
| 09:15.16 | gsp | thanks |
| 09:15.18 | Taoub | lol |
| 09:15.20 | Csan | actually, right, sorry :) |
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| 09:15.32 | simonrvn | g4lt: i didn't touch that one (the redhat factoid) |
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| 09:15.49 | Taoub | it still tringto mount /proc in boot even if fstab does not have a line for it |
| 09:16.07 | The_Vulture | gsp: but remember the umask option is inverted |
| 09:16.10 | kawfee | simonrvn: but the rest you did? |
| 09:16.11 | g4lt | simonrvn I thought it was you who complained that cmd:redhat overrode redhat crap...sorry |
| 09:16.13 | Csan | then it must be an init script trying |
| 09:16.14 | e-coli | 755 = u +rwx g +rx o +rx |
| 09:16.15 | The_Vulture | it's the permissions that won't be available |
| 09:16.30 | kawfee | !redhat |
| 09:16.30 | dpkg | well, redhat is just a big redHACK! |
| 09:16.34 | gsp | so I want user x to have read write but not execute access... I want to umask 001? |
| 09:16.37 | kawfee | !redhat . |
| 09:16.37 | dpkg | hmm... redhat is just a big redHACK! |
| 09:17.07 | kawfee | g4lt: you aren't supposed to screw up factoids. Although, someone has been messing with quite a few of them lately. |
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| 09:17.14 | Csan | gsp yes |
| 09:17.26 | e-coli | something like gid=1002,umask=177 will give user 1002 +rw on the mount |
| 09:18.02 | The_Vulture | I use 002, for what it's worth |
| 09:18.02 | gsp | wouldnt that give group 1002 +rw on the mount? |
| 09:18.02 | g4lt | !kawfee |
| 09:18.02 | dpkg | from memory, kawfee is Drink More Kawfee!, or funny :), or a known dumbass. KAWFEH, or married to Boris, the russian Ebay Bride, or ask him about his wacky mysoginistic hijinks with helix |
| 09:18.07 | kawfee | !g4lt |
| 09:18.07 | dpkg | from memory, g4lt is just this guy you see. Mr. Congeniality, or prone to typos. he can translate from typoese if asked though |
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| 09:18.26 | e-coli | sorry, is that right? no because i had gid and not uid |
| 09:18.32 | kawfee | Someone has been busy with my name. |
| 09:18.38 | g4lt | hehe |
| 09:18.53 | kawfee | That's twice as long as it used to be. I feel loved. |
| 09:19.03 | debian | !debianstrike kawfee |
| 09:19.03 | dpkg | @say ~penixstrike $1 |
| 09:19.06 | ravenbird | ~penixstrike $1 |
| 09:19.09 | | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking $1 to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 09:19.16 | kawfee | They spelled mysogonistic wrong. |
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| 09:19.38 | kawfee | ~kafee ~= s/mysoginistic/mysogonistic |
| 09:19.42 | Csan | is the OSI stack implemented in Debian? how is it available? |
| 09:19.42 | kawfee | ~kawfee ~= s/mysoginistic/mysogonistic |
| 09:19.47 | kawfee | !kawfee ~= s/mysoginistic/mysogonistic |
| 09:19.55 | kawfee | !kawfee |
| 09:19.55 | dpkg | hmm... kawfee is Drink More Kawfee!, or funny :), or a known dumbass. KAWFEH, or married to Boris, the russian Ebay Bride, or ask him about his wacky mysoginistic hijinks with helix |
| 09:19.57 | g4lt | terminate the s// |
| 09:20.02 | Csan | specifically, rfc1514, the FTAM is what I'm looking for |
| 09:20.24 | kawfee | it is terminated |
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| 09:21.28 | g4lt | dpkg s/mysoginistic/misogynistic/ |
| 09:21.28 | dpkg | g4lt: bugger all, i dunno |
| 09:21.31 | kawfee | debian: fix your factoid |
| 09:21.34 | debian | !literal kawfee |
| 09:21.34 | dpkg | kawfee is Drink More Kawfee!, or funny :), or a known dumbass. KAWFEH, or married to Boris, the russian Ebay Bride, or ask him about his wacky mysoginistic hijinks with helix |
| 09:21.39 | g4lt | dpkg kawfee =~ s/mysoginistic/misogynistic/ |
| 09:21.39 | dpkg | g4lt: OK |
| 09:21.40 | kawfee | !kawfee ~= s/mysoginistic/mysogonistic/ |
| 09:21.54 | g4lt | it's misogyny |
| 09:22.00 | g4lt | ~dict misogyny |
| 09:22.01 | kawfee | oh. I had the ~= backwards as well |
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| 09:22.22 | kawfee | I guess it was right |
| 09:22.28 | debian | !factinfo kawfee |
| 09:22.28 | dpkg | kawfee -- last modified 4m 50s ago by g4lt!galt@134.50.70.19; it has been requested 2 times, last by kawfee, 2m 33s ago. |
| 09:22.38 | kawfee | dpkg kawfee =~ s/mysoginistic/misoginistic/ |
| 09:22.38 | dpkg | kawfee: that doesn't contain 'mysoginistic' |
| 09:22.46 | g4lt | no, I trasnposes the first i and the y |
| 09:22.47 | kawfee | dpkg kawfee =~ s/mysogynistic/misoginistic/ |
| 09:22.48 | dpkg | kawfee: that doesn't contain 'mysogynistic' |
| 09:22.49 | e-coli | gy like gyn, gyno etc. |
| 09:22.58 | debian | kawfee: which one? |
| 09:23.06 | kawfee | g4lt: the original one was correct |
| 09:23.12 | kawfee | !mith debian |
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| 09:23.51 | gypsymauro | hi |
| 09:23.55 | kawfee | ho |
| 09:23.57 | Csan | !Csan |
| 09:23.58 | Csan | :) |
| 09:24.00 | themusicgod1 | i just installed ardour sound editing suite and all i get for calling it up is 'illegal instruction' is this a bug? |
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| 09:24.28 | JoePenguin | it certainly doesn't sound like a feature |
| 09:24.33 | kawfee | hah |
| 09:24.46 | kawfee | You realize most bugs become features |
| 09:24.53 | e-coli | themusicgod1: the ardour mailing list would have better info |
| 09:24.55 | themusicgod1 | ok |
| 09:25.07 | sim | anybody knows why alsa-modules last version is dated 2003-09-23 ? |
| 09:25.18 | kawfee | nini |
| 09:25.58 | debian | Any SATA controller card you'd recommend? My mobo doesn't has it supported and I'm not going to buy a new mobo any time soon. :) please kindly help |
| 09:26.07 | g4lt | sim that's about the time ALSA got merged into the main kernel tree? |
| 09:26.22 | sim | aha |
| 09:26.39 | sim | so the best way to go is installing 2.4.24? |
| 09:26.49 | g4lt | sim or 2.6.X |
| 09:27.14 | sim | if have a long waiting time (50 secs) in bootup sequence direct after X startup |
| 09:27.21 | e-coli | debian: promise makes good ones |
| 09:27.24 | Csan | debian: Silicomimage |
| 09:27.39 | gsp | ok... I did this... but still no dice... what's wrong? mount -t vfat -o uid=1000,gid=1111,umask=000 /dev/hde1 /WinXP |
| 09:27.40 | Csan | I bought one, el cheapo and 2.4. handles it with no problems |
| 09:27.49 | gsp | I am user 1000 |
| 09:28.02 | gsp | and group 1111 is "xp" which I am a member of |
| 09:28.16 | gsp | still get permission denied when I cd /WinXP |
| 09:28.18 | e-coli | gsp: leave out the uid. make sure the gid is the gid for the user in question |
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| 09:28.27 | sim | g4lt: do you know of issues around random generator in 2,.4.24? |
| 09:28.43 | Csan | sim: 1.0.1 packages are already in sid |
| 09:29.00 | housetier | I have /home mounted via nfs and want to use libtrash, where should I install it - on the nfs client or on the nfs server? |
| 09:29.00 | sim | csan: u mean 2.6 ? |
| 09:29.09 | Csan | download alsa-source and compile your own modules with 'make-kpkg --added-modules alsa-driver modules_image' |
| 09:29.15 | Csan | sim: no, I mean 2.4 |
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| 09:29.50 | g4lt | sim not taht I've seen, but I really haven't taken it out for a workout yet, having just made a 2.6.X kernel tonight |
| 09:30.01 | sim | csan: so alsa is not merged in 2.4.24 kernel upstream? |
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| 09:30.11 | difeta | hey all! I've got this ext3 formatted hard drive. I'm trying to mount it with Woody, but whenever I try to, i get numberous erros that flash by all terminals and i lose all control of my system. Any ideas? I'm doing this mount -t ext2 /dev/hdc5 /mnt/hd |
| 09:30.11 | debian | e-coli, Csan: thanks for your suggestion |
| 09:30.13 | Csan | sim: no, and it won't be |
| 09:31.03 | sim | csan: u know about waits in startup of 2.4.24? |
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| 09:31.24 | Csan | sim: no, that's new. What's that |
| 09:31.25 | sim | csan: direct after x11 startup msg |
| 09:31.37 | sim | csan: i have a 50 seconds wait. |
| 09:32.18 | sim | csan: i toggled consoles and on return is saw it was continuing to start. |
| 09:32.34 | e-coli | sim: look at /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 09:32.52 | sim | e-coli: indeed! looking now... |
| 09:32.57 | JoePenguin | debian: does it say OOPS or Kernel Panic in this error messages? |
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| 09:33.09 | JoePenguin | debian: oops, not you |
| 09:33.16 | JoePenguin | difeta: does it say OOPS or Kernel Panic in this error messages? |
| 09:33.31 | sim | e-coli: need to reboot, already new ones. |
| 09:33.42 | sim | bye for now. |
| 09:33.52 | e-coli | ? |
| 09:34.12 | difeta | JoePenguin, its an error that says wrong free inodes on <my device> and a bunch of other stuff |
| 09:34.19 | difeta | its goign to fast to catch it |
| 09:34.45 | Csan | anyone knows about OSI / FTAM impleementations in Debian? |
| 09:34.45 | JoePenguin | difeta: when you say you lose control of your system, does that mean that it no longer accepts your keyboard input? |
| 09:34.57 | difeta | it does but very limited |
| 09:35.04 | JoePenguin | difeta: limited how? |
| 09:35.06 | Csan | like? |
| 09:35.13 | difeta | i typed halt -n a couple mionutes ago and i finally gota response now |
| 09:35.33 | Csan | so it looks like the CPU is hogged |
| 09:35.44 | Csan | very busy doing something |
| 09:36.02 | JoePenguin | difeta: that sounds really broken. i would suggest using a newer kernel, if you are using 2.4.18 |
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| 09:36.25 | difeta | JoePenguin, I'm already on it. I'll brb through |
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| 09:38.25 | gsp | EUREKA! |
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| 09:38.32 | Csan | what |
| 09:38.39 | gsp | I had one messed up char in my /etc/group file |
| 09:38.46 | gsp | it's all kosher now... |
| 09:38.52 | Brahmo | hi |
| 09:39.03 | g4lt | gsp really, you had a rabbi bless it even? ;P |
| 09:39.14 | Csan | :] |
| 09:39.22 | gsp | now... how do I make this setting permenant in the fstab? |
| 09:39.25 | e-coli | gsp: always use vigr and vipw to edit group and passwd |
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| 09:40.15 | g4lt | gsp it's permanent in /etc/fstab the moment you saved it |
| 09:40.18 | Brahmo | http://tinyurl.com/2zb5k |
| 09:40.27 | gsp | I didn't save it in fstab... |
| 09:40.30 | gsp | I just used mount |
| 09:40.34 | The_Vulture | gsp: man fstab then |
| 09:40.40 | gsp | do I use the same arguments in fstab? |
| 09:40.52 | Csan | yep. why not |
| 09:40.55 | The_Vulture | pretty much |
| 09:40.58 | gsp | cool |
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| 09:41.04 | The_Vulture | might add a few fstab options and things if you want |
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| 09:42.54 | e-coli | wow, i can access britannica online for free using my library card # this is awesome |
| 09:43.48 | debian | e-coli: link? I'd like to try mine |
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| 09:43.53 | keta | e-coli: may I priv message you one thing? |
| 09:44.18 | e-coli | debian: go through you library's website |
| 09:44.19 | sim | ok. any issues know with hdparm and 2.4.24? |
| 09:44.28 | e-coli | keta: k |
| 09:44.35 | debian | e-coli: I thought I can do that in YOUR Univ. :) |
| 09:44.43 | JoePenguin | sim: i haven't encountered any |
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| 09:45.27 | sim | rcS processing halted on hdparm for 50/60 seconds. |
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| 09:46.10 | JoePenguin | sim: have you looked in your logs for clues? |
| 09:46.27 | JoePenguin | sim: if i had to guess, i'd say that you would find DMA timeout messages |
| 09:46.56 | sim | JoePengiun: yes, first thought it was X11 startup, but found nothing there. i looked in /var/log/boot. |
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| 09:47.11 | sim | DMA, ok looking.... |
| 09:47.17 | marinos | are the pathches in kernel-patch-debian-2.4.23 already included in kernel-source-2.4.23 ? |
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| 09:48.39 | sim | JoePenguin: yep, dma timeouts. known issue? |
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| 09:48.56 | sim | hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq_R671b90f6) called while not waiting |
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| 09:49.58 | JoePenguin | sim: I don't know of any causal relationships. I just know that I've had it happen to me for no reason that I can remember. |
| 09:50.17 | JoePenguin | sim: not with 2.4.24 though |
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| 09:51.12 | sim | JoePenguin: should i file a bug somewhere? |
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| 09:51.19 | Taoub | it still tringto mount /proc in boot even if fstab does not have a line for it |
| 09:51.27 | sim | JoePenguin: its reproducabkle |
| 09:51.38 | keith_ | what u lot recon iv installed debian before and got smb working without x etc, i wanna use linux for a lan file dump of large image files. however i find the apt-get tool handy, but am used to using mandrake but mainly gui.. and have prefered debian cmds such as apt-get |
| 09:51.51 | keith_ | recon i should use debian |
| 09:52.02 | sim | keith_ you should :-) |
| 09:52.32 | keith_ | yeah iv always got anouther 2003 server next to me i can use for net refrance |
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| 09:53.08 | keith_ | i tink ill ghost its current NT4 install incase i make a mess |
| 09:53.23 | geertn | I'm trying to let a process dump core but I cannot find the core file.. (kill -11 PID) |
| 09:53.29 | geertn | anybody can help me? |
| 09:53.39 | sim | geertn: ulimit? |
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| 09:54.22 | geertn | sim: I do not have /etc/security/limits.conf and when running ulimit as root it says: unlimited. The process is also running as root |
| 09:55.24 | sim | geertn: maybe proces handles signal internal, not using default action |
| 09:56.15 | geertn | no I also tried it on another process.. tail |
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| 09:56.30 | keith_ | spose if i have trouble i can always come in IRC and ask u guys, he he |
| 09:56.31 | cem | anyone dealing with mozilla & xft support ? |
| 09:56.50 | sim | geertn: i'm out of ideas |
| 09:57.00 | jm_ | geertn: why do you want it to core dump ? |
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| 09:57.12 | sim | anybody know of channel with kernel developers? |
| 09:57.20 | jm_ | sim: why ? |
| 09:57.22 | DigitalOne | just installed debian on laptop and booted - how to get into gui? |
| 09:57.27 | geertn | jm_: Because I found a bug in it and want to submit a good bug report.. |
| 09:57.45 | sim | jm_: to discuss hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq_R671b90f6) called while not waiting |
| 09:57.45 | Taoub | i have same problem http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@gentoo.org/msg33700.html can anyone help me |
| 09:57.46 | Taoub | ? |
| 09:57.48 | jm_ | geertn: do you know where in the code you want it to core dump ? |
| 09:57.55 | cem | DigitalOne, if ya installed the packs of Xfree and a wmanager, just type startx |
| 09:58.13 | JoePenguin | sim: have you tried googling that error mesg? |
| 09:58.15 | DigitalOne | thanks! worked! |
| 09:58.15 | jm_ | sim: you sure developers want to deal with that ? thast channel is not about user support but just for kernel development |
| 09:58.26 | geertn | jm_: No.. |
| 09:58.47 | jm_ | geertn: how do you know it's a bug then and that it should core dump ? |
| 09:58.55 | keith_ | i got a question, i have setup my connection at boot however i want to enable dhcp now instead of static how i enable dhcp? |
| 09:59.17 | jm_ | keith_: try etherconf , man interfaces and read docs in /usr/share/doc/ifupdown |
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| 09:59.32 | sim | JoePenguin: no hits. maybe due to version nummer in symbol? |
| 09:59.52 | geertn | jm_: I'm sure it's a bug because it my application CLI freezes. But it does not dump core.... The developers asked for a trace of the core file before submitting the bug |
| 10:00.05 | Taoub | i wanna reemerge "mount" what package should i reemerge? |
| 10:00.09 | keith_ | cheers i think i tried this ill look later, just relised my co worker has buggered off with my laptop! |
| 10:00.28 | jm_ | geertn: what does your application do ? |
| 10:00.30 | g4lt | Taoub you shoud ask #gentoo |
| 10:00.58 | Taoub | ups sorry |
| 10:01.21 | geertn | jm_: It's asterisk an open source pbx.. it's very big... I did not write it:) |
| 10:01.42 | helix | g4lt: what is wrong with you and kawfee? |
| 10:02.17 | g4lt | nothing, just teasing him about actually BELIEVING me ;P |
| 10:02.29 | sim | JoePenguin: maybe i have a rare combo and i'm the only one with the problem. i have to file a bugreport if it is unknown. |
| 10:02.36 | jm_ | geertn: ok, well try ulimit -c 65535, start the app then send it -11, but it doesn't always work (it should work with tail though) |
| 10:03.09 | keith_ | What is thee diff between using samba server and a NFS server? |
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| 10:03.16 | barf_ | I presume this kind of question is probably not very welcome but I was wondering if there's a program to remove the password protection of a zipped file? (it sounds probably not very honestly, but I seriously don't want to do anything illegal and I can't contact the author of the file right now) |
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| 10:03.32 | jm_ | barf_: the only way is to guess a password |
| 10:03.34 | helix | g4lt: heh |
| 10:03.41 | karsten | I've got local DNS (BIND) and a squid cache. I've just added some CNAMES for remote sites to BIND, eg: "g in CNAME www.google.com." This resolves with 'host' or 'ping'. But squid only sees it if I add '.introspect' (g.introspect), my local network name. |
| 10:03.46 | karsten | Any fix? |
| 10:03.52 | keith_ | i only wanna share a ghost image with my lan so i can map to it via maped boot disc and install a ghost image located n the server |
| 10:03.53 | barf_ | jm_: does it use such a strong encryption algorithm? |
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| 10:03.58 | g4lt | keith_ samba s used on Redmond butt-pirate-ware, and NFS is used on Suns ;P |
| 10:04.03 | e-coli | keith_: nfs is better but use samba if windoze clients need to connect |
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| 10:04.13 | streuner | g4lt: :-) |
| 10:04.23 | keith_ | i will be connecting to it via a dos boot disc |
| 10:04.23 | evol | I've got an unofficial apt-source, how can I restrict apt from using only some of the packages the source provides? |
| 10:04.24 | jm_ | barf_: I don't know the details, I'm guessing it uses the password to encrypt the data so if you supply a wrong one, data comes out with CRC errors |
| 10:04.31 | barf_ | jm_: so do you know of a program that does a brute-force/dictionary attack on zip files? |
| 10:04.41 | jm_ | barf_: google will find it for you |
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| 10:05.00 | karsten | e-coli: Doesn't Samba avoid some of the hung network problem of NFS? |
| 10:05.01 | e-coli | nfs is used on a lot more than suns |
| 10:05.06 | gsp | anyone know of a WORKING Yahoo! chat client other than JAVA |
| 10:05.24 | barf_ | jm_: it's a terrible thing to search for something like "crack zip files" and the like because most you get is such "cool hacker sites" with "warez" and stuff :( |
| 10:05.32 | e-coli | karsten: not if nfs is set up correctly |
| 10:05.37 | jm_ | barf_: not really |
| 10:05.39 | karsten | e-coli: You mean... |
| 10:05.52 | karsten | e-coli: ...with a high-powered outboard motor... |
| 10:05.52 | e-coli | gsp: centericq |
| 10:05.58 | jm_ | barf_: zip password cracker |
| 10:06.02 | karsten | e-coli: ...chained to its ankles, in a deep lake? |
| 10:06.05 | gsp | ok... I'll try YET ANOTHER! |
| 10:06.19 | geertn | jm_: It works now, tahnks |
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| 10:07.05 | barf_ | jm_: oh, this looks actually pretty good. thanks for your help |
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| 10:08.16 | e-coli | karsten: hard, intr client mount options and async on server |
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| 10:08.47 | e-coli | its very smmoth |
| 10:08.54 | e-coli | oothe |
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| 10:10.51 | e-coli | only issue i have is option to use only v3 server in /etc/default seems to get ignored |
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| 10:11.14 | Flexy | I want to use 3 pppoe connections on 3 NICs to widen my bandwidth, what HOWTO should I be looking into? pppoe is familiar and working already (single connection) |
| 10:13.07 | stew | Flexy: you need to get to know lartc.org |
| 10:13.45 | Flexy | stew: thanks |
| 10:13.52 | stew | Flexy: specifically: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html |
| 10:14.56 | Wyzard | Is there something strange going on on my system, or is there really a conflict between current lm-sensors module packages and a dependency of kdebase? That would mean that it's impossible for anyone using KDE in Debian to use lm-sensors. |
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| 10:15.47 | Wyzard | Specifically, between lm-sensors-<kernelversion> and libsensors2, which ksysguardd depends on |
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| 10:16.38 | Flexy | stew: thanks again :) |
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| 10:27.35 | Maulkin | Morning all. |
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| 10:29.14 | mr_claus | i'm looking for evolution in sarge, is it available? |
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| 10:34.41 | justdave | I'm trying to migrate a system from RedHat 7.3 to Debian... |
| 10:34.50 | justdave | everything is working except for the mailman list manager |
| 10:35.17 | justdave | the mailman version is stable is too old to handle the data from the mailman on redhat... |
| 10:35.45 | justdave | and I can't seem to find any newer version of mailman in a debian package which actually works :) |
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| 10:35.56 | mosty | justdave, look at backports.org, they might have a newer version compiled for woody |
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| 10:36.23 | mosty | justdave: alternatively, you can compile mailmail yourself, and build your own .deb |
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| 10:39.19 | themusicgod1 | is it possible to receive/send email (using sendmail) through just an ip address? |
| 10:39.47 | jm_ | themusicgod1: you mean using smart relay ? |
| 10:40.05 | jm_ | or smarthost |
| 10:40.06 | themusicgod1 | doesn't a smart relay require a machine on the outside to accept mail and relay it? |
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| 10:40.22 | jm_ | yes, you send mail via that box |
| 10:40.52 | themusicgod1 | ... no i mean if you have just one box, nothing else but that one box, and to receive/send mail through it |
| 10:41.10 | justdave | mosty: thanks, looking there |
| 10:41.27 | jm_ | then that machine should be configured properly |
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| 10:41.56 | JosephSpiros | is there any quick way to see if a debian box is using md5 passwords or not? |
| 10:42.15 | SlayerXP | JosephSpiros: cat /etc/shadow |
| 10:42.16 | themusicgod1 | ok |
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| 10:42.45 | iphitus | does the developmental debian installer beta 2 support installation from a Firewire CD drive? |
| 10:42.47 | JosephSpiros | odd, I'm not using shadow passwords |
| 10:43.07 | JosephSpiros | i'll have to fix that later |
| 10:43.16 | JosephSpiros | but, how can I check the MD5 bit, still |
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| 10:44.09 | iphitus | is there a way i could install sid from withing another distro? |
| 10:44.42 | simonrvn | likely |
| 10:45.17 | iphitus | mmm, coz this laptop im getting doesnt have a floppy so i cant load a driver from a floppy and it's main drive is a Firewire drive :/ |
| 10:45.27 | iphitus | i know i can install mandrake |
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| 10:45.49 | simonrvn | don't have a cd to boot from? |
| 10:45.51 | JosephSpiros | SlayerXP: if I'm not using shadow passwords? |
| 10:46.10 | SlayerXP | JosephSpiros: then you're silly. |
| 10:46.16 | JosephSpiros | no no |
| 10:46.18 | JosephSpiros | I thought I was |
| 10:46.21 | JosephSpiros | I'll fix that later |
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| 10:46.29 | JosephSpiros | but, I still need to know if I'm using MD5 or not |
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| 10:47.17 | jm_ | JosephSpiros: check debconf database if nothing else comes to mind |
| 10:47.28 | riis | hello |
| 10:47.48 | simonrvn | iphitus: get debootstrap, do whatever you need to "convert" it to an rpm, install that, then run it, with the drive you want to install from mounted to a sub-dir, chroot to it, run base-config (get sarge though, then upgrade to sid after) |
| 10:48.01 | iphitus | simonrvn: with knoppix and mandrake's installer it boots off the CD drive, but the moment control is handed from bios to the kernel, the installer cant find the drive! this happens before detection scripts are run |
| 10:48.13 | riis | I'm trying to install Debian and I was wondering if it was safe to run debootstrap as root. I mean would it not be wiser to run it as a user, case i mess up? |
| 10:48.22 | iphitus | simonrvn: ok |
| 10:49.00 | simonrvn | riis: i'm pretty sure you can run it as normal user |
| 10:49.01 | mosty | iphitus, read debian weekly news, there was somebody documenting doing that |
| 10:49.07 | iphitus | ill see if i can find more about that online |
| 10:49.18 | jm_ | it probably works for abnormal users too ;)) |
| 10:49.24 | iphitus | like me! |
| 10:49.25 | riis | ok, how do i mount the / partition as a normal user then? |
| 10:49.35 | simonrvn | jm_: teeheehee :) |
| 10:49.46 | riis | :) |
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| 10:51.33 | riis | will I have to write the partitions in /etc/fstab to allow a user to mount it? |
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| 10:52.29 | jm_ | riis: yes |
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| 10:52.59 | iphitus | mosty: where can i find the debian weekly news? |
| 10:53.15 | jm_ | ~+DWN |
| 10:53.17 | | Debian Weekly News at http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/ . You can also get it emailed to you weekly by subscribing to the debian-news list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-news/ or by sending an email with the subject 'subscribe' and no body to debian-news-request@lists.debian.org |
| 10:53.20 | SlayerXP | bLAck_R0s3: /join #mykeyboardisbroken |
| 10:53.30 | iphitus | ty |
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| 10:56.04 | keith_ | i really need to get rid of this mandrake install |
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| 10:56.09 | morgoth- | hi |
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| 10:56.27 | morgoth- | i need a good hex-editor |
| 10:56.35 | morgoth- | with a find / replace function |
| 10:56.44 | jm_ | biew |
| 10:56.46 | bLAck_R0s3 | #medan |
| 10:57.50 | riis | hmm, how do I give users write acces to a partition? |
| 10:57.57 | justdave | ok, I completely wipe all traces of mailman off the system (apt-get remove, followed by rm -rf on all the non-empty directories) |
| 10:57.58 | jm_ | maybe biew doesn't do s&r, I forgot |
| 10:58.01 | justdave | then apt-get install mailman |
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| 10:58.14 | dob | hi |
| 10:58.20 | keith_ | hello |
| 10:58.21 | justdave | when it goes to configure... it tells me some file already exists |
| 10:58.24 | GhostDawg | hi |
| 10:58.28 | jm_ | morgoth-: it's probably the best to use xxd |
| 10:58.35 | dob | i have a text file, i want to put the lines in this files in a random order, how can i do this ? |
| 10:58.40 | justdave | and asks if I want to overwrite, edit, leave it alone, etc. |
| 10:59.04 | justdave | when I answer that question (doesn't matter how I answer) it hangs. |
| 10:59.11 | jm_ | dob: man ptx |
| 10:59.39 | iphitus | thanks a heap, looks like ill debootstrap it |
| 10:59.47 | bob2 | justdave: purge it. as all the documentation says, removing a package leaves config files. |
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| 10:59.59 | bob2 | morgoth-: hexl-mode in emacs. |
| 11:00.06 | petemc | justdave: its a bad idea to start deleting stuff yourself |
| 11:00.17 | justdave | the files it's idenfitying at existing |
| 11:00.25 | xerophyte | Can somebody give me source.list entry for the sarge? |
| 11:00.27 | justdave | er, as existing, I deleted though |
| 11:00.46 | petemc | xerophyte: :%s/stable/testing/g #in vim |
| 11:00.47 | mosty | xerophyte, what do you have now? |
| 11:01.01 | xerophyte | mosty woody |
| 11:01.22 | xerophyte | mosty but wanna goto sarge |
| 11:02.06 | mosty | xerophyte, just change woody (or stable) to sarge in your sources.list |
| 11:02.24 | dob | jm_: i mean the lines in the files in random order, no the word in the line |
| 11:02.55 | xerophyte | i am having problem with X windows its says Screens found, but none have a usable configuration .. i have run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and disabled the framebuffer.. still i have that message does anybody know how can i fix this ? |
| 11:03.12 | bob2 | xerophyte: /msg dpkg setup x |
| 11:04.20 | jm_ | dob: try sorting it with random keys |
| 11:04.35 | riis | if I would like to mount a partition as a user an have write access to it, how would I do that? |
| 11:04.57 | justdave | ok, the purge thing seems to have worked. configure completed anyway |
| 11:05.06 | dob | jm_: with sort ? |
| 11:05.20 | bob2 | riis: do you mean "how do I give users access to a windows partition?"? |
| 11:05.27 | z|bandito | my boot process with various bootable cdroms always hangs at the ESR value before enabling vector: 000000004 |
| 11:05.30 | z|bandito | any ideas why? |
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| 11:06.11 | riis | bob2: no, how do i mount my /mnt/debinst so i can run debootstrap as an ordinary user an install debian : ) |
| 11:06.11 | jm_ | dob: yes, maybe there are some scripts out there that will do the job for you as well |
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| 11:06.34 | bob2 | riis: you can't run debootstrap as a regular user, it needs root priveleges to chroot to the new partition. |
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| 11:07.26 | riis | ok, I'll just do it that way then. Was just affraid I might mess up, so wanted to do it a secure way, but what the hell, it'll work. Thanks |
| 11:07.54 | jm_ | riis: chroot should prevent you from doing that |
| 11:08.12 | bob2 | riis: as long as you run it in the right dir, there's very little that can go wrong |
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| 11:09.52 | riis | bob2: right dir? |
| 11:10.05 | bob2 | riis: in the directory you mean to run it |
| 11:10.23 | DeRRty | can someone help me |
| 11:10.35 | DeRRty | im trying to get my laptop on my network with a Xircom Ethernet Card |
| 11:10.45 | DeRRty | but when i do /etc/pcmcia/network start eth0 |
| 11:10.53 | DeRRty | it returns Ignoring Unknown interface eth0=eth0. |
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| 11:11.46 | maxithron | buongiorno!! |
| 11:11.57 | morgoth- | simple method to remove empty lines from a textfile? :S |
| 11:12.19 | riis | bob2: well I have / on /mnt/debinst, and I'm going to do a debootstrap --arch i386 woody /mnt/debinst file:/mnt/debian1 would that be right? |
| 11:12.20 | jm_ | morgoth-: ed |
| 11:12.22 | mosty | morgoth: grep -v '^$' |
| 11:12.35 | g4lt | DeRRty it'd probably help if you defined eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces... |
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| 11:12.51 | bob2 | riis: looks good |
| 11:12.55 | Norlin | hello |
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| 11:13.15 | Norlin | Can I remove a network interface from the list of interfaces exim listens on for smtp? |
| 11:13.43 | Norlin | ahh |
| 11:13.47 | Norlin | thanks |
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| 11:14.16 | riis | bob2: ok, I have the debian cds 1 to 3 mounted as /mnt/debian1 to /mnt/debian3 will I be able to tell this to debotstrap as i intall or will it only be able to read cd1? |
| 11:14.33 | jm_ | riis: installer only needs CD1 |
| 11:14.43 | bob2 | riis: debootstrap only installs the Debian base system, it can get everything it needs from cd1 |
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| 11:15.18 | riis | ok....thanks guys |
| 11:15.20 | xerophyte | i know icecast can stream audio .. if i wanna streaming vedio what should i do ? |
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| 11:16.30 | DeRRty | can someone tell me what apt-get sources.list should contain |
| 11:16.33 | DeRRty | im not sure what to add and what now |
| 11:16.56 | bob2 | run apt-setup |
| 11:17.30 | keith_ | geeks |
| 11:17.41 | bob2 | with guns? |
| 11:17.58 | DeRRty | i get some message saying |
| 11:18.03 | DeRRty | Failed To Fetch... |
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| 11:18.09 | DeRRty | something wicked happend fetching... |
| 11:18.12 | bob2 | DeRRty: can you ping google.com? |
| 11:18.25 | tjs | Greetings, Im having some issues getting the debian installer working, A friend gave me Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 "Sarge" - fsn.hu unofficial i386 Binary on DVD, the installer boots fine, but when I select the standard image to boot I get to the usual 'freeing unused kernel memory' bit then I get /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libc.so.6: Invalid ELF header Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! |
| 11:18.39 | DeRRty | ping: unknown host www.google.com |
| 11:18.47 | bob2 | DeRRty: your network config is fucked |
| 11:19.00 | morgoth- | DeRRty: are you on a dialup? |
| 11:19.07 | bob2 | tjs: I'd bet the disk is corrupt. |
| 11:19.17 | DeRRty | no.. im trying to connect through network |
| 11:19.29 | tjs | damn :/ |
| 11:19.32 | morgoth- | then check your nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 11:19.38 | riis | er, I did the bootstrap and all, and now I've chroot'ed and i need to create /etc/fstab, but I can't find any editor..... |
| 11:19.47 | DeRRty | in interfaces i got |
| 11:19.50 | DeRRty | auto eth0 |
| 11:19.50 | bob2 | riis: nano |
| 11:19.55 | DeRRty | iface eth0 inet static |
| 11:19.56 | bob2 | DeRRty: stop it |
| 11:19.56 | morgoth- | DeRRty: dont paste this |
| 11:20.00 | DeRRty | ok |
| 11:20.03 | tjs | the installer doesnt offer any way to check the install media integrety? |
| 11:20.04 | DeRRty | can i paste u in Pm ? |
| 11:20.11 | bob2 | DeRRty: #flood |
| 11:20.15 | riis | nano:command not found |
| 11:20.18 | morgoth- | DeRRty: no dont need |
| 11:20.19 | bob2 | tjs: it does indeed, at the bottom of the menu |
| 11:20.22 | bob2 | riis: ae? |
| 11:20.24 | morgoth- | DeRRty: paste your resolv.conf in query |
| 11:20.29 | bob2 | riis: nvi? |
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| 11:20.36 | tjs | okay, rebooting to give it a go :) |
| 11:20.39 | tjs | thanks :) |
| 11:20.44 | bob2 | riis: nano-tiny should be installed at least |
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| 11:21.07 | xerophyte | if i want to find out sound card info.. how can i do .. i mean does lspci something help me |
| 11:21.11 | tra1a1a | what is the command to mark a package to be installed? |
| 11:21.23 | tra1a1a | echo status package | dpkg --set-selections |
| 11:21.26 | jm_ | zero;lspci or discover |
| 11:21.28 | riis | bob2: there's nothing, i have 386 commands available, but no nano no pico no vi no nothing.... |
| 11:21.36 | bob2 | tra1a1a: don't do that. |
| 11:21.45 | tra1a1a | what status do I use? or where do I read about states? |
| 11:21.53 | bob2 | riis: sure debootstrap completed succesfully? |
| 11:22.15 | tra1a1a | bob2, why? |
| 11:22.16 | bob2 | tra1a1a: what are you actually trying to do? replicate the set of installed packages between machines? |
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| 11:22.42 | tra1a1a | no, I'm just trying to upgrade nethack-x11, but it is marked as hold |
| 11:22.43 | riis | bob2, well it only installe 90 megs of stuff, that enough? |
| 11:22.54 | Jazz | whats the latest release of 2.6? |
| 11:22.59 | DeRRty | bob2: could u help me in #flood ? |
| 11:23.11 | bob2 | Jazz: finger @kernel.org |
| 11:23.15 | bob2 | riis: should be |
| 11:23.21 | riis | bob2: ln: '/mnt/debinst/usr/bin/awk': Filen eksisterer was the last peep out of debootstrap |
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| 11:23.34 | bob2 | riis: what's that mean in english? |
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| 11:23.44 | riis | "the file exists" |
| 11:23.59 | Jazz | where can i get SCO UnixWare for free download ? |
| 11:24.00 | bob2 | that's not good |
| 11:24.04 | Jazz | or i must buy it |
| 11:24.09 | bob2 | Jazz: #sco |
| 11:24.21 | bob2 | riis: /mnt/debinst wasn't empty when you started? |
| 11:24.22 | Jazz | ok |
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| 11:24.33 | tra1a1a | Is there a bot answering questions here? |
| 11:24.42 | bob2 | why would you ask about SCO in here at all? |
| 11:24.43 | stich | hi |
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| 11:24.44 | Jazz | its empty --> #sco |
| 11:24.47 | Jazz | nobody |
| 11:24.47 | _pragma | LOL! peep out of debootstrap? |
| 11:24.51 | _pragma | What is that? |
| 11:24.54 | riis | well I killed debootstrap the first time maybe that's it.... whoops... |
| 11:25.03 | stich | hihihi |
| 11:25.04 | bob2 | Jazz: whatever, unixware has nothing to do with us |
| 11:25.08 | bob2 | tra1a1a: xserver-xfree86 install |
| 11:25.25 | riis | _pragma, the last thing debootstrap outputted : ) |
| 11:25.31 | tra1a1a | so the package goes first and the status next? |
| 11:25.31 | bob2 | tra1a1a: echo nethack-x11 install | dpkg --set-selections ; apt-get dselect-upgrade |
| 11:25.35 | _pragma | it's just funny wording |
| 11:25.38 | tra1a1a | all right |
| 11:25.39 | tra1a1a | thanks |
| 11:25.40 | bob2 | tra1a1a: yes |
| 11:25.48 | bob2 | tra1a1a: not using dselect is another option ;-) |
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| 11:27.10 | riis | bob2, i think that was it, I was just a moron..... :( it's working now i think..... |
| 11:27.21 | bob2 | cool |
| 11:27.37 | riis | _pragma, well not a native english speaker here..... : ( |
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| 11:28.05 | rellik_ | riis: it made sense to me :) |
| 11:28.10 | bob2 | me too |
| 11:28.43 | riis | yeah you got the point all, and some even got a few laughs, I guess this means I'm the master of everything....or something..or not.... |
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| 11:30.56 | local | woei |
| 11:30.57 | local | :p |
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| 11:33.47 | z|bandito | my boot process with various bootable cdroms always hangs at "ESR value before enabling vector: 000000004" ??? |
| 11:34.01 | bob2 | so use a different kernel |
| 11:34.32 | z|bandito | whats the problem? |
| 11:34.58 | bob2 | no idea |
| 11:35.34 | local | gm guys :) |
| 11:36.05 | bob2 | !+ask |
| 11:36.05 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Also don't ask if anyone uses/knows about foo. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people without permission or demand an answer from one particular person. Thanks! |
| 11:36.25 | local | when i use shutdown as root , shutdown now or some familier.. its just closes all applications |
| 11:36.38 | local | and i get login screen.. or something like that:P |
| 11:36.46 | hairy_potter | /me's mother tongue engine guesses that local is not a native english speaker |
| 11:36.56 | bob2 | yes |
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| 11:37.06 | local | when i just turn off the pc then.. i get 'scandisk' at startup |
| 11:37.18 | local | whats the good way to turn it off? :P |
| 11:37.22 | hairy_potter | local: you shouldn't turn off the PC just like that |
| 11:37.24 | bob2 | what do you actually see? |
| 11:37.29 | hairy_potter | local: shutdown -h now |
| 11:37.41 | local | hmm lets try :P |
| 11:37.44 | local | back in a minute |
| 11:37.49 | hairy_potter | local: s/lets/you/ |
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| 11:40.26 | Zalio | looks good guys |
| 11:40.27 | Zalio | thanks :) |
| 11:41.03 | Jazz | now someone tell me where can i get the SCO ISOs for free |
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| 11:41.21 | riis | I'm doing base-config now, and it's asking me where to find the archive, if I choose 'filesystem' will i be able to change this later. Well I know i can, but how? |
| 11:41.23 | bob2 | Jazz: stop it |
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| 11:41.30 | bob2 | riis: apt-setup |
| 11:41.46 | Croepha | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:41.51 | bob2 | Jazz: a) UnixWare is crap, b) we don't care. |
| 11:41.53 | riis | thanks (will try not to forget that...) |
| 11:41.56 | jm_ | Croepha: read keyboard howto |
| 11:42.10 | jm_ | riis: you can always run base-config again too |
| 11:42.39 | Croepha | !keyboard howto |
| 11:43.20 | bob2 | no |
| 11:43.26 | bob2 | where are howtos normally found? |
| 11:43.39 | Croepha | i am looking on google... |
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| 11:43.50 | bob2 | www.tldp.org |
| 11:44.04 | Croepha | http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO.html dound it thatnks.. |
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| 11:44.27 | Jazz | yeah sure thanks for the help |
| 11:44.42 | bob2 | Jazz: bye. |
| 11:44.46 | poli | Good morning everyone! |
| 11:45.02 | Jazz | bye |
| 11:45.07 | Jazz | nerds |
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| 11:46.30 | bob2 | can you ping hostnames? |
| 11:46.55 | simonrvn | fucking troll. sco isos for free? com'on... |
| 11:46.58 | squidink | I'm on the virge of upgrading from woody; is sid stable enough to use as a desktop? |
| 11:47.03 | Zalio | ofcourse bob2 :) |
| 11:47.15 | Zalio | but your DNS Server has to be set then.. |
| 11:47.18 | Zalio | just try :) |
| 11:47.29 | riis | If i don't want to install both gnome and KDE, wil i then have to quit tasksel? |
| 11:47.35 | Zalio | if its not set you can set it in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 11:47.37 | simonrvn | riis: yes |
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| 11:47.38 | jm_ | riis: no |
| 11:47.50 | poli | squidink: I used to do Sarge, but IMHO, Sarge sucks. I Upgraded to Sid and have never been better! |
| 11:48.05 | bob2 | DeRRty: can you ping hostnames? |
| 11:48.18 | squidink | poli: knoppix is basically sid, right? |
| 11:48.23 | Zalio | :p |
| 11:48.25 | bob2 | squidink: NO |
| 11:48.32 | poli | squidink: No idea. No familiarized with knoppix. |
| 11:48.40 | riis | well there's a clear answer for you.....should I just deselct DE and then install kde manually afterwards then? |
| 11:48.50 | simonrvn | knoppis IS NOT debian |
| 11:48.53 | ljlane | squidink, mix of custom stuff, testing and sid. Try #knoppix. |
| 11:49.04 | simonrvn | s/is/ix/ |
| 11:49.28 | jm_ | riis: what's the point in doing that ? |
| 11:49.35 | squidink | i know, i know... am trying to work out the relationship presently. |
| 11:49.36 | bob2 | ljlane: how fast is imlib2 for just loading a file into memory? |
| 11:49.49 | riis | jm_: well i don't want gnome.... |
| 11:49.56 | ljlane | bob2, really don't know |
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| 11:51.11 | jm_ | riis: wrong, I use plain window manager |
| 11:51.15 | squidink | is and apt-get dist-upgrade from woody to sid painful? |
| 11:51.30 | bob2 | no |
| 11:51.54 | squidink | s/and/an/ |
| 11:51.55 | riis | ok, but if I only want KDE, wouldn't I then have to deselct DE from tasksel and then install kde afterwards? |
| 11:52.20 | bob2 | riis: if you care, don't use tasksel. |
| 11:52.24 | bob2 | just install it later |
| 11:52.28 | riis | ok |
| 11:52.30 | jm_ | riis: wait, tasksel only offers desktpo environment, right? then yes |
| 11:53.20 | g4lt | riis why would you ust tasksel to install somethign as trivial as KDE? tasksel is for things that you devote your entire computer to, like webserving |
| 11:53.26 | Croepha | what package is termcap in?? |
| 11:53.44 | bob2 | something very basic |
| 11:53.45 | poli | Croepha: try dpkg -L termcap |
| 11:53.56 | bob2 | if you ant more, install ncurses-term |
| 11:54.01 | poli | Croepha: try or dpkg -l termcap I am not very sure. |
| 11:54.24 | g4lt | actually, termcap is obsoleted by terminfo, and has been forever |
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| 11:55.43 | squidink | can anyone suggest a decent easy way to set up a box as a locked-down webbrowsing terminal (kiosk)? |
| 11:55.45 | riis | g4lt, ok, I didn't get the point of tasksel then. this is my first debian install so I don't know much.... |
| 11:55.46 | keith_ | What is the file that contains the dns servers? i need to add one |
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| 11:55.52 | keith_ | thanks |
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| 11:56.39 | LordBrain | Is there anyway to track all the files that are created touched by installing a comercial program? |
| 11:57.12 | g4lt | LordBrain look at stow |
| 11:57.24 | poli | LordBrain: well, there are some file monitoring applications... I'm not very sure but take a look at FAM. |
| 11:57.24 | jm_ | LordBrain: strace |
| 11:57.42 | LordBrain | stow, FAM, and strace |
| 11:57.45 | LordBrain | thanks |
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| 11:58.04 | xst | Anyone know a commandline tool to play a wav file? |
| 11:58.10 | jm_ | xst: sox |
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| 11:58.20 | xst | jm_: Thanks! |
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| 11:58.39 | Yellow_Fuzzy | hi |
| 11:58.45 | poli | xst: cat file.was > /dev/dsp :) |
| 11:58.50 | poli | xst: cat file.wav > /dev/dsp :) |
| 11:59.06 | Yellow_Fuzzy | what version of the kernel does sarge include? |
| 11:59.23 | bob2 | riis: tasksel is for newbies who don't know what software they want |
| 11:59.27 | bob2 | Yellow_Fuzzy: the default is 2.4.22 |
| 11:59.36 | xst | poli: But wav isn't raw. Does dsp read wav files? Aparently it does... |
| 12:00.33 | poli | xst: I tested that many years ago on 2.0... it used to work, but not I noticed that it doesn't... Let me see... |
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| 12:01.07 | Yellow_Fuzzy | so will i be able to install sarge on a Sata raid drive |
| 12:01.15 | jm_ | xst: it works for some files, but not all |
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| 12:01.43 | riis | bob2: ok, then I will never touch that dreadful piece of software again : ) |
| 12:02.05 | bob2 | Yellow_Fuzzy: depends if it's actual RAID or not. |
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| 12:02.22 | Yellow_Fuzzy | yes it is a hardware raid |
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| 12:03.04 | frealek | people hi |
| 12:03.14 | Zap-W | hi |
| 12:03.24 | mosty | lordbrain: checkinstall is one possibility |
| 12:03.34 | poli | xst: Well, mplayer could do the job, but it's a bit complicated to install... Do you have it installed? |
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| 12:04.09 | Yellow_Fuzzy | the raid controller is the Silicon image SiI 3112A - http://www.siimage.com/products/sii3112.asp |
| 12:04.36 | mosty | yellow_fuzzy, i think that's pretend hardware raid |
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| 12:04.57 | poli | xst: apt-get install mpg321 could be an option. |
| 12:05.06 | Scognito | which alghoritm does debian uses for encrypt the passord? |
| 12:05.19 | jm_ | Scognito: the one you select during installation/reconfiguration |
| 12:05.29 | poli | Scognito: You can choose that at install time. Default is good old crypt() but you can ask for MD5. |
| 12:05.41 | bob2 | Yellow_Fuzzy: that doesn't look like a raid controller to me. |
| 12:05.42 | Scognito | ok |
| 12:05.48 | Scognito | and if i don't remember? |
| 12:05.57 | jm_ | then you have a bad memory |
| 12:05.59 | Scognito | i'm root on my machine |
| 12:06.01 | Scognito | can i test |
| 12:06.03 | Scognito | ? |
| 12:06.08 | rice | anyone know why the keyboard doest work on kernel 2.6.1 ? |
| 12:06.10 | Scognito | jm_, yeah :) |
| 12:06.14 | jm_ | yes, you have my permission |
| 12:06.16 | Scognito | but i installed 4 years ago |
| 12:06.18 | poli | Scognito: take a look at /etc/shadow. If it starts with $1$ it is MD%. |
| 12:06.20 | poli | Scognito: take a look at /etc/shadow. If it starts with $1$ it is MD5. |
| 12:06.28 | bob2 | rice: a kernel you built yourself? |
| 12:06.32 | poli | Scognito: 4 years ago... it's good old crypt(). :) |
| 12:06.51 | Yellow_Fuzzy | the raid controller is onboard on a GA-81875 Ultra mobo |
| 12:06.52 | Scognito | it starts with $1$ |
| 12:06.54 | rice | bob2: yes, i did CONFIG_INPUT_KEYBOARD=y |
| 12:07.04 | poli | Scognito: Well, it's good new MD5, then. :):) |
| 12:07.30 | bob2 | Yellow_Fuzzy: if it's onboard, it's almost certainly not RAID then |
| 12:07.31 | Scognito | so if i have a password for a user, for example tha password is "banana" |
| 12:07.45 | bob2 | rice: /msg dpkg 2.6 |
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| 12:07.50 | bob2 | rice: read davej's guide |
| 12:07.52 | Scognito | if i do md5sum banana it will be equal to that one on the /etc/shadow file? |
| 12:07.59 | rice | bob2: thx |
| 12:08.00 | WorkerII | 2.6? |
| 12:08.01 | Yellow_Fuzzy | it is sata raid and it is onboard |
| 12:08.02 | WorkerII | kernel? |
| 12:08.03 | poli | Scognito: yes. |
| 12:08.13 | Scognito | ok i'm trying |
| 12:08.14 | Uniball | is there atool like tail but for gzipped files ? |
| 12:08.18 | WorkerII | oh |
| 12:08.23 | Uniball | or will i have to code mine ;) |
| 12:08.26 | bob2 | Uniball: less +F foo.gz |
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| 12:08.31 | mosty | uniball: gzip -cd foo | tail |
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| 12:08.41 | poli | Scognito: Possibly, the $1$ and some other characters at the beginning could mean that it is MD5 and not an actual part of the MD5 hash. |
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| 12:08.56 | bob2 | Yellow_Fuzzy: ok then. is it listed on www.linux-ide.org as "fully supported"? |
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| 12:09.09 | bob2 | poli: uh, aren't md5 passwords salted? |
| 12:09.46 | Scognito | they are different |
| 12:09.47 | g4lt | bob2 I believe they use chili powder... ;P |
| 12:09.53 | Uniball | mosty: it seems the only sold, but the file is 1.5 GB text, it'll take time |
| 12:09.53 | poli | bob2: Now that you mentioned, I don't know... let's do some experiments. |
| 12:10.01 | Uniball | bob2: thx, i'll try |
| 12:10.22 | WorkerII | I guess this *is* the wrong /place/ to ask *this* question: Why on gnome.org did the GNOMEteam decide to change from saw-mill/-fish to "meta"city ??!? |
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| 12:10.43 | bob2 | WorkerII: because they wanted something simpler for normal people. |
| 12:10.44 | poli | bob2: Yes they are salted... |
| 12:10.54 | Yellow_Fuzzy | bob2: yes it is on there |
| 12:10.55 | bob2 | WorkerII: as much as I like sawfish, it is the most complicated window manager ever written |
| 12:10.55 | g4lt | WorkerII irc.gnome.org would be a good place... |
| 12:11.00 | bob2 | Yellow_Fuzzy: have fun then. |
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| 12:11.10 | WorkerII | bob2: But .. metacity doesn't work well .. you cannot .. oh .. people are too stupid for sawfish? |
| 12:11.23 | WorkerII | s/stupid/something else/ |
| 12:11.27 | poli | Scognito: bob2 is right, you won't get it (probably) because it has a random part of input in the MD5 hash calculation... |
| 12:11.48 | mosty | yellow_fuzzy, i know someone how bought a motherboard that had one of those chips. at the time they needed to patch the kernel to use it in linux |
| 12:11.53 | mosty | but that was a while ago |
| 12:11.55 | Scognito | poli, ok |
| 12:11.58 | bob2 | WorkerII: it doesn't work well? how so? |
| 12:12.06 | bob2 | WorkerII: it manages windows. that's what it does. |
| 12:12.08 | Scognito | so how debian does the authentication then? ;) |
| 12:12.15 | WorkerII | bob2: Well, its not that I mind metacity much .. except it seems so limited .. allmost as handicapped as a microsoft equalent. |
| 12:12.19 | bob2 | WorkerII: how many people actually wrote LISP code for sawfish, do you think? |
| 12:12.31 | WorkerII | bob2: I dunno? |
| 12:12.46 | bob2 | WorkerII: blahblahblah, 95% of people don't want all the options sawfish had. the other 5% can install it in five seconds. |
| 12:13.01 | bob2 | WorkerII: irc.gnome.org #gnome if you really want to know |
| 12:13.33 | WorkerII | bob2: As much as I think LISP is probably a cool language, I couldn't write hello world in LISP without study if I was paid for it. |
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| 12:13.34 | poli | Scognito: I have a good ideia of how it works, but now that you are asking, I am really not that sure... Wait some time and I will try to answer that. |
| 12:13.36 | bob2 | WorkerII: and you're probably in the top 5% of people in the world, wrt to computer literate |
| 12:13.42 | bob2 | s/te/cy/ |
| 12:13.44 | Zorg | yo |
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| 12:13.56 | WorkerII | bob2: Well, I just wondered .. since I switched to metacity .. but eventually had to kick it out in favour of sawfish because metacity was too limited. |
| 12:14.03 | mosty | workerii: who cares what the default is? defaults were made to be changed |
| 12:14.05 | Scognito | poli, thank you in advice :) |
| 12:14.07 | simonrvn | tell me about... |
| 12:14.08 | riis | would I want to manage my xserver with debconf? I'm thinking no here..... |
| 12:14.09 | simonrvn | it |
| 12:14.12 | simonrvn | :) |
| 12:14.24 | simonrvn | riis: yes, 95% of the time |
| 12:14.36 | bob2 | riis: just say yes, it does a good job of it. |
| 12:14.40 | riis | ok |
| 12:14.44 | bob2 | riis: if you want tot edit it later, you can do that too |
| 12:14.53 | WorkerII | mosty: Well, I care about a lot of things .. but a lot of people will be asking me why, without caring, and I prefer to have an idea before they ask. |
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| 12:15.32 | bob2 | hah, mutt in sid is on crack |
| 12:15.35 | WorkerII | mosty: And I think I misinterpreted your intention with your sentence. ;) |
| 12:15.36 | Rawplayer | :p |
| 12:15.40 | riis | I have an nvidia card in this machine, what do I choose in X configuration? vesa? and then add the proper one later? |
| 12:15.44 | mosty | workerii: i supposed it makes sense to choose simple defaults. because more advanced users can easily change these settings |
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| 12:15.58 | bob2 | riis: what card? |
| 12:16.06 | riis | bob2: just a sec... |
| 12:16.07 | xerophyte | when i start x its start with KDE i wanna start with gnome.. i looked for the xsession file i could not find it .. how can i start the x windows with game ..other problem kde says its can not find the sound card how can i get my sound card working under the debian |
| 12:16.14 | WorkerII | mosty: Maybe .. but metacity .. I mean .. why not run ms-windows? |
| 12:16.23 | melkor_ | mm this is gonna sound silly, but i'm running Libranet 2.7 classic, trying to setup DVD playing...it's based on Woody, so it uses libdvdread2, not the testing/unstable libdvdread3...i've checked the libdvdread2 dir and there's no examples sub dir with a install-css.sh ... i've googled but can't find anywhere to d/l this script to set up css...any ideas? |
| 12:16.28 | WorkerII | mosty: Because metacity has more themes? |
| 12:16.30 | riis | bob2: Geforce ti200 |
| 12:16.33 | mosty | workerii: i don't see your point |
| 12:16.52 | WorkerII | mosty: What can metacity do, that your basic ms-windows GUI can't ? |
| 12:16.57 | bob2 | riis: what's that? |
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| 12:17.07 | mosty | workerii: no idea, i've never seen metacity |
| 12:17.14 | prologic | How do I change mgetty's INIT string that it sends to the modem ? |
| 12:17.16 | WorkerII | mosty : Oh ok. |
| 12:17.17 | bob2 | #libranet |
| 12:17.23 | bob2 | melkor_: ^ |
| 12:17.27 | melkor_ | ta bob2 |
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| 12:17.29 | bob2 | riis: a geforce3? |
| 12:17.35 | WorkerII | mosty: Well, for instance, when you wanna maximize a window .. its *allways* in both directions. |
| 12:17.41 | riis | bob2 yes that's it... |
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| 12:18.08 | WARHEAD | Hello to all, I bay new PC with monitor Samsung SyncMaster 957mb, on all resulution refresh time is 60Hz, please how to up on 75 or 85 Hz ? |
| 12:18.17 | WorkerII | mosty: Also, I think I heard that either the sticky or stay on top feature are missing. |
| 12:18.23 | jm_ | WARHEAD: fix your config |
| 12:18.27 | bluey | how do i install soundcore.o? or how do i make my sound card work |
| 12:18.34 | xerophyte | can somebody tell me how can i start the x-windows with gnome? |
| 12:18.39 | poli | Scognito: There is some good article by Bruce Schneier... Well, the MD5 hash is 128 bits long, that is 16 bytes. If you can notice, the $1$ debian uses probably means that what follows is MD5, so, we can consider that "part of the protocol". Next, there are 34 bytes. This maked me believe that we have the 16 MD5 hash bytes and some other 18 bytes, that are, most probably the random part. It has to random, according to Schneier, but not necessar |
| 12:18.45 | WorkerII | mosty : All 3 options that I as a GNU/Linux user has grown accustomed to, and wont do without. |
| 12:18.59 | mosty | workerii, i think you should be arguing with a gnome channel, or a gnome mailing list. what does this have to do with debian? |
| 12:18.59 | bob2 | riis: then pick "nv" |
| 12:19.03 | riis | ok |
| 12:19.08 | bob2 | xerophyte: remove kde. |
| 12:19.13 | gordonjcp | WARHEAD: have a look in XF86Config, for the line that starts "VertRefresh" |
| 12:19.16 | WARHEAD | jm_: I try all options in /etc/X11/XFree86-4 |
| 12:19.17 | WorkerII | mosty: I am not debating .. just answering your questions. |
| 12:19.17 | bob2 | xerophyte: or: echo exec gnome-session > ~/.xsession |
| 12:19.20 | mosty | workerii: you are free to install any window manager you like |
| 12:19.27 | bob2 | bluey: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 12:19.30 | melkor_ | bluey: you'll need to recompile kernel with soundcore.o :-) |
| 12:19.35 | gordonjcp | <WorkerII> mosty: Maybe .. but metacity .. I mean .. why not run ms-windows? |
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| 12:19.40 | bob2 | bluey: if it's 2.2.20-idepci, I'm going to beat you with the install guide. |
| 12:19.46 | gordonjcp | WorkerII: what has metacity got to do with windows? |
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| 12:19.55 | jm_ | WARHEAD: no, you specified wrong data for monitor |
| 12:19.56 | WorkerII | mosty: I allready installed sawfish .. but kinda reluctant .. I like a lot of stuff about metacity .. but its simply too stupid for me. |
| 12:20.00 | gordonjcp | s/windows/ms-windows/ |
| 12:20.05 | WorkerII | gordonjcp : Uhm .. its a windowmanager? |
| 12:20.06 | xerophyte | bob2 hmmm intersting i dont have the ./xsession file in there how come the KDE starts |
| 12:20.08 | Zap-W | it says dosemu with dosemu-freedos packages are already pre configured to work with each other , and i should get a C:\ prompt when typing dosemu , problem is it dosen't happen |
| 12:20.09 | WARHEAD | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:20.17 | gordonjcp | WorkerII: I meant MS Windows, obviously |
| 12:20.18 | bob2 | xerophyte: create it. |
| 12:20.22 | bob2 | WARHEAD: /msg dpkg setup x |
| 12:20.23 | jm_ | WARHEAD: that's not enough |
| 12:20.25 | Sultrix | Morning all :) |
| 12:20.27 | WorkerII | gordonjcp : Oh .. |
| 12:20.31 | bob2 | Zap-W: so file a bug. |
| 12:20.40 | WARHEAD | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.55 | bob2 | WorkerII: yes, everyone knows metacity is shit for serious users. but it's nto meant for serious users. it does the simple job it was designed for. |
| 12:20.56 | bluey | bob2: why doesn't show up with modconf? |
| 12:21.02 | gordonjcp | WorkerII: what would be wrong with an X desktop environment that exactly re-created the look and feel of MS WindowS? |
| 12:21.05 | bob2 | bluey: blahblahblah, answer my question. |
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| 12:21.22 | WorkerII | gordonjcp : Nothing, unless I'd have to use it. |
| 12:21.28 | melkor_ | lol |
| 12:21.42 | bob2 | bluey: what does "uname -r" print out? |
| 12:21.43 | bluey | bob2: donno because i'm not home |
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| 12:21.50 | gordonjcp | WorkerII: see, I might *like* the Windows GUI, but prefer a Unix OS |
| 12:21.51 | Scognito | poli, so i cannot test if a password i have is the one on the pshadow file, cannot I? |
| 12:21.56 | Sultrix | Is the easiest way to build a new kernel on debian by doing the following: make oldconfig > make-kpkg kernel-image > dpkg -i kernel-image=2.6.1.* then reboot? Or is there a simpler way with debian? |
| 12:21.56 | WARHEAD | Any program for detect or test parametar of monitor? |
| 12:22.02 | WorkerII | gordonjcp : But if that were the case ... why not run ms-windows? |
| 12:22.03 | trapni | why does libtool complain about: "libtool: link: cannot find the library `'"? |
| 12:22.03 | Zap-W | anyone else here running sarge , can you test dosemu with freedos |
| 12:22.04 | bob2 | bluey: this problem occured because you didn't read trhe install guide. /msg dpkg real kernel |
| 12:22.05 | bluey | what sould it say? |
| 12:22.10 | bob2 | Scognito: mkpasswd from the whois package |
| 12:22.15 | bluey | an what shoud i do? |
| 12:22.17 | bob2 | WorkerII: /msg dpkg setup x |
| 12:22.17 | gordonjcp | WorkerII: because it wouldn't be Unix. Read what I just said |
| 12:22.19 | jm_ | WARHEAD: follow advice in /msg dpkg setup x - it tries to detect it |
| 12:22.22 | bob2 | WARHEAD: /msg dpkg setup x |
| 12:22.26 | WorkerII | gordonjcp : Well, I think its fair that you and others like you make a "ms-windows-theme" and use it. |
| 12:22.28 | bob2 | WARHEAD: as we told you already |
| 12:22.35 | poli | Scognito: sure you can. I don't know (yet) what it is but there is most certainly a library login uses to do that. :) |
| 12:22.35 | WorkerII | msg dpkg setup x |
| 12:22.41 | bob2 | Sultrix: that's pretty easy |
| 12:22.42 | Sultrix | I have been reading some stuff on google, and it seems that you can rebuild kernels in debian differently to other distros.. |
| 12:22.42 | bob2 | WorkerII: not you |
| 12:22.49 | cafuego | trapni: mainly coz libtool sucks |
| 12:22.52 | WorkerII | bob2. Oh |
| 12:22.55 | Scognito | ok thank you guys |
| 12:22.55 | Sultrix | Just wanna check. |
| 12:22.55 | bob2 | Sultrix: make-kpkg is Debian-specific. |
| 12:22.59 | gordonjcp | WorkerII: as it happens, Windows just pisses me off, but my cow-irkers use it so a really good Windows desktop clone would be good for them |
| 12:23.04 | melkor_ | yes you can Sultrix |
| 12:23.08 | gordonjcp | WorkerII: which is why we have ~/.xinitrc |
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| 12:23.16 | bob2 | Sultrix: on other Linuxes you have to "make bzImage moduels modules_install" etc. |
| 12:23.18 | okayA | is there a way to hide the openssh version of the openssh daemon? |
| 12:23.20 | trapni | cafuego: that that means to me now what? |
| 12:23.24 | WorkerII | gordonjcp : True. :) |
| 12:23.26 | bob2 | okayA: no, don't be a cluebie. |
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| 12:23.41 | bob2 | okayA: if your ssh daemon is vulnerable, kiddies will crack you even if you hide your version. |
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| 12:23.50 | simonrvn | duh |
| 12:23.50 | Sultrix | Is the easiest way to build a new kernel on debian by doing the following: make oldconfig > make-kpkg kernel-image > dpkg -i kernel-image=2.6.1.* then reboot? Or is there a simpler way with debian? |
| 12:23.53 | melkor_ | Sultrix: http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=131&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 |
| 12:23.57 | Sultrix | I have been reading some stuff on google, and it seems that you can rebuild kernels in debian differently to other distros.. |
| 12:23.59 | cafuego | trapni: Dunno, deb-src packages tend to just compile. Were you fiddlign with non-debian software? |
| 12:24.02 | bob2 | 23:22:41 bob2 | Sultrix: that's pretty easy |
| 12:24.02 | Sultrix | Just wanna check. |
| 12:24.05 | bob2 | 23:22:55 bob2 | Sultrix: make-kpkg is Debian-specific. |
| 12:24.07 | teleyinex | hi |
| 12:24.13 | bluey | bob2: how do i make my wheel from my mouse work? |
| 12:24.20 | melkor_ | and don't forget to update either grub or lilo after doing new kernel |
| 12:24.24 | bob2 | bluey: /msg dpkg wheel mouse |
| 12:24.30 | WorkerII | Actually I wasn't trying to mock the gnome-team or the metacity developers .. but I was trying to go with the gnome2 defaults, and basicly was a little ticked that it wont do, and I have to discard the good things about metacity. |
| 12:24.30 | Sultrix | bob2, Yeah thats the way i used to do it.. and read the debian way and i was just wanting to make sure :) |
| 12:24.35 | poli | cafuego: Cafuego! Just the idol I have been waiting for... ;) |
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| 12:24.46 | teleyinex | how can i make usb stick to automount when i connect it |
| 12:24.46 | Sultrix | melkor_ thanks |
| 12:24.51 | bob2 | !+spanish |
| 12:24.52 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 12:24.57 | jm_ | teleyinex: yes |
| 12:25.06 | Sultrix | melkor_ to update lilo i would do lilo -c right? |
| 12:25.09 | WorkerII | dpkg: Hablo español? |
| 12:25.14 | dpkg | WorkerII: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 12:25.14 | cafuego | poli: Really? *runs away* |
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| 12:25.20 | cafuego | dpkg: hola |
| 12:25.21 | dpkg | hey |
| 12:25.26 | sw2boy | anybody know about setting up irc servers? |
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| 12:25.33 | tbouaziz | vvvrvea |
| 12:25.35 | tbouaziz | rdvs |
| 12:25.44 | cafuego | sw2boy: apt-get install dancer; /j dancer-ircd |
| 12:25.45 | tbouaziz | salut |
| 12:25.45 | WorkerII | sw2boy : Yeah .. many does. I do for instance. |
| 12:25.53 | bob2 | tbouaziz: this is an english-only channel |
| 12:25.55 | poli | cafuego: ;) Tell me something... did you get suspend to work right? |
| 12:25.56 | WorkerII | dpkg tell sw2boy about polls |
| 12:26.03 | Shadur | Someone call 911 down to tbouaziz's house, he's having an epileptic seizure! |
| 12:26.03 | cafuego | poli: I don't use it. |
| 12:26.03 | tbouaziz | ok |
| 12:26.10 | tbouaziz | how are you |
| 12:26.14 | cafuego | poli: My machines are on 24/7 |
| 12:26.20 | bob2 | haha |
| 12:26.30 | bob2 | cafuego: did you end up getting aircon? |
| 12:26.38 | cafuego | bob2: Nah |
| 12:26.43 | poli | cafuego: I have one 24/7 but I have to turn off my notebook from time to time...sic sic |
| 12:26.46 | g4lt | yeah, 24 minutes a day, even days a month ;P |
| 12:26.56 | tbouaziz | i dont speak english very well |
| 12:26.56 | bluey | how do i make my wheel from my mouse work? |
| 12:27.02 | cafuego | poli: yeah, when i turn of my laptop I use the power button, works great! |
| 12:27.08 | bob2 | bluey: /msg dpkg wheel mouse |
| 12:27.15 | poli | cafuego: I got disk suspend (software suspend) to work almost fine... When it wakes up, I lose USB. :( |
| 12:27.40 | melkor_ | blue, edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file |
| 12:27.44 | poli | cafuego: You must try turning it off by echo 4 > /proc/acpi/sleep it looks SO MUCH BETTER!!! :) |
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| 12:28.05 | frealek | does a "add_your_syscall"-like howto exist for 2.6 modules ? (apart from the generic LKM howto...) thx... |
| 12:28.15 | cafuego | poli: I prefer sysctl -w kernel.panic=1 |
| 12:28.25 | bob2 | frealek: #kernelnewbies on irc.oftc.net |
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| 12:28.42 | poli | cafuego: Well, you have to teach me this trick some day... ;) |
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| 12:29.02 | frealek | bob2: thx |
| 12:29.04 | maru | aaaa |
| 12:29.41 | bob2 | maru: Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. |
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| 12:31.12 | riis | um, what would i want postgre to encode in dafault? I'm a mysql guy, never encountered this.... |
| 12:31.23 | Tylo | Is it possible to connect a laptop on a server sothat the laptop acts like a monitor? |
| 12:31.58 | cafuego | !find apt-check-sigs |
| 12:32.08 | cafuego | Tylo: Generally not. |
| 12:32.08 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'apt-check-sigs' returned no results. |
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| 12:32.36 | Tylo | Generally, however........... :) ??? |
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| 12:33.30 | bob2 | riis: default |
| 12:33.53 | bob2 | Tylo: hwoever you could run X over it. |
| 12:34.16 | poli | Scognito: I couldn't find an easy reference for the function Debian uses in login, but I am sure that if you grab the source code, you will find it easily... |
| 12:35.13 | poli | Tylo: Well, you could run an X server in the Laptop and get the environment from the desktop, but it is not like they will be sharing the same desktop. You can try VNC for that... |
| 12:35.16 | Tylo | I need to install the sever, but i dont have a spare screen at the moment, only a laptop (both dell) |
| 12:35.33 | Scognito | i'll do :) btw thank you, you've cleared some things |
| 12:35.44 | poli | Tylo: Oh, that's harder... |
| 12:35.48 | Tylo | hehe |
| 12:36.03 | poli | Scognito: One last thing... I am probably messing up the values in that 16/18 I gave you! |
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| 12:36.37 | Scognito | which values |
| 12:37.08 | poli | Scognito: /etc/shadow contains something like base64 (I don't know) of the real 128 bits, as you can notice that all the characters in /etc/shadow are printable (7 bit), and, obviously, the ones MD5 returns are 8 bit, some of them most definetly unprintable. |
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| 12:37.40 | Scognito | ah ok :) |
| 12:37.47 | poli | Scognito: So, I don't know how many bytes in /etc/shadow represent the 128 bits of the MD5 hash. |
| 12:38.29 | riis | do I have to use a 2.4 kernel with woody, or can I just boot on my existing 2.6 kernel? |
| 12:38.44 | bob2 | riis: sure, if you install module-init-tools |
| 12:38.58 | poli | Scognito: That's a very interesting research work you are doing, I whish I had more time to learn all about it. :( |
| 12:39.22 | cafuego | Tylo: pretty muich no way to do it, unelss you have specific hardware (which any dell box doesn't) |
| 12:39.37 | cafuego | Tylo: HOWEVER, you could try and install via serial console. |
| 12:39.51 | poli | cafuego: |
| 12:39.53 | riis | apt-get install module-init-tools right?? |
| 12:40.00 | poli | cafuego: That's hard core, man! :) |
| 12:40.21 | keith_ | where do i enable dhcp ? |
| 12:40.29 | cafuego | keith_: man 5 interfaces |
| 12:40.30 | keith_ | as my router uses it |
| 12:40.32 | cantona | what is lsmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented?? |
| 12:40.34 | poli | keith_: Client or server? |
| 12:40.38 | keith_ | client |
| 12:40.40 | cafuego | cantona: user error |
| 12:40.42 | caphuso | cantona: user error |
| 12:40.49 | cafuego | cantona: Read the docs that came with your kernel. |
| 12:40.59 | poli | keith_: /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 12:41.23 | bob2 | riis: not on woody |
| 12:41.23 | poli | keith_: man interfaces |
| 12:41.36 | riis | bob2: how then, from source? |
| 12:41.37 | bob2 | riis: 2.5 didn't exist when woody released, much less rusty's module re-write |
| 12:41.43 | bob2 | riis: www.apt-get.org |
| 12:41.53 | cafuego | riis: Consider going to sarge. |
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| 12:42.37 | castra | what packages do I need to install software from tarballs ? |
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| 12:42.46 | keith_ | in interfaces do i just add a line 'DHCP 10.0.0.1' |
| 12:42.47 | davidw | anyone know how to swap rows with columns in openoffice? |
| 12:42.52 | cafuego | castra: WHich software from tarballs? |
| 12:42.52 | riis | cafuego: ?? later debian or what? |
| 12:42.56 | caphuso | castra: that depends what the INSTALL or README file in the tarball tells you |
| 12:42.57 | frealek | castra: tar, make, gcc |
| 12:42.58 | e-coli | anyone know of a hack to get rid of the penguin framebuffer boot logo in 2.4.x ? |
| 12:42.59 | davidw | castra: alien, maybe? |
| 12:42.59 | poli | keith_: no. try man interfaces |
| 12:43.11 | keith_ | oh ok |
| 12:43.12 | bob2 | keith_: of course not. /msg dpkg man interfaces |
| 12:43.17 | davidw | there's another one good for that sort of thing.... 'stow' ? |
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| 12:43.24 | bob2 | davidw: yup |
| 12:43.28 | cafuego | riis: Sarge is currently "testing" (a bit more up to date) and will become the new stable when it's finished. Should be safe enough for a desktop machine. |
| 12:43.31 | bob2 | and checkinstall |
| 12:43.35 | castra | cafuego: you see I'm about to install no-ip2 client from no-ip.com from tarball |
| 12:43.53 | cafuego | castra: apt-get install build-essential will get you started. |
| 12:44.03 | castra | cafuego: I see |
| 12:44.07 | cafuego | castra: be sure to install under /usr/local/ |
| 12:44.19 | davidw | soooo, no one sharp with openoffice? |
| 12:44.29 | riis | but can't I install module-init-tools on woody? |
| 12:44.36 | bob2 | davidw: maybe the openoffice channel? |
| 12:44.42 | bob2 | riis: of course you can, I already told you how. |
| 12:44.53 | bob2 | riis: obviously it's not IN woody because it didn't exist when woody was created. |
| 12:44.53 | castra | cafuego: does these include all that I need ? |
| 12:45.09 | castra | cafuego: like make autoconf automake etc... |
| 12:45.12 | bob2 | castra: no |
| 12:45.16 | cafuego | castra: depends on what no-ip2 needs |
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| 12:45.22 | bob2 | castra: read the docs that come with it |
| 12:45.28 | Tylo | cafuego: Serial console? How does that work? |
| 12:45.32 | bob2 | you don't need automake or autoconf to build software, anyway |
| 12:45.37 | davidw | bob2: yeah, thought of that;-) what's it called if not #openoffice? |
| 12:45.44 | cafuego | riis: You can, but you'll need to find a package someone made. |
| 12:45.48 | davidw | oh...aha |
| 12:45.52 | cafuego | riis: .. and even then it'll probably be outdated. |
| 12:45.54 | bob2 | #oo? |
| 12:45.54 | davidw | #openoffice.org... )&*&*(& |
| 12:45.55 | castra | cafuego: yeah ...thats build part helped me |
| 12:45.57 | xerophyte | How can i upgrade my mozilla its 1.0 i wanna upgrade to 1.6 |
| 12:46.14 | cafuego | Tylo: console via nullmodem to remote terminal. |
| 12:46.22 | caphuso | xerophyte: check apt-get.org and backports.org, if that fails, get a precompiled version from mozilla.org |
| 12:47.07 | Tylo | mmm, I will try that |
| 12:47.08 | cafuego | castra: is it a dyndns client btw? |
| 12:47.13 | riis | well I've got http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/debian/dists/woody/bunk-1/main/binary-i386/module-init-tools_0.9.13-pre-0.bunk_i386.deb downloaded now how do I install it... |
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| 12:47.18 | castra | cafuego: yes it is |
| 12:47.27 | davidw | bye |
| 12:47.27 | cafuego | castra: Why not use a prepackaged one? |
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| 12:47.34 | jm_ | riis: man dpkg |
| 12:47.34 | bob2 | riis: don't do that. |
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| 12:47.43 | bob2 | riis: get the correct sources.list line and install with apt |
| 12:47.56 | riis | bob2 que? |
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| 12:48.02 | bob2 | riis: get the correct sources.list line and install with apt |
| 12:48.08 | castra | cafuego: well I didn't know that there is one ? btw whe installing it runs script made for debian |
| 12:48.12 | riis | where would i get that? |
| 12:48.17 | jm_ | on his home page riis |
| 12:48.23 | jm_ | where his=bunk's |
| 12:49.20 | cafuego | castra: apt-get install ez-ipupdate or ddclient |
| 12:49.28 | xerophyte | What happens to the apt-get if install mozilla from mozilla.org .. will have some depended problems or can i just install the file from mozilla.org |
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| 12:50.01 | castra | cafuego: no need I set it up from tarball ...thanks |
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| 12:50.52 | cafuego | castra: well, it may or may not support no-ip |
| 12:51.00 | riis | I'm looking for a sources.list file... |
| 12:51.03 | bob2 | no |
| 12:51.08 | bob2 | read his home page |
| 12:51.08 | castra | cafuego: this way I know that it does |
| 12:51.20 | Tylo | Next question :) Anybody knows a good control panel to manage Vhosts and quota? Debian package if possible |
| 12:51.20 | jerome | humpf, I used to believe thaht vsftpd install script would prompt me to ask whether I want to start the ftp server with inetd or not ... |
| 12:51.25 | riis | ok |
| 12:51.26 | jerome | unfortunatly it doesn't |
| 12:51.39 | jerome | strange ... |
| 12:51.46 | xerophyte | what is the different between install from mozilla.org and using the apt-get install mozilla .. can i able to install the mozilla from the mozilla.org.. if i do what kind side effect will i have with apt-get |
| 12:51.48 | bob2 | maybe your debconf priority is too high |
| 12:51.57 | bob2 | xerophyte: install it to /usr/local/ |
| 12:52.24 | riis | should I add deb or deb-src to my sources.list? |
| 12:52.32 | bob2 | deb |
| 12:52.36 | riis | cool |
| 12:53.14 | xerophyte | bob2 okay thx. can you explain little more about debconf please i mean its priority? |
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| 12:53.30 | melkor_ | riss: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:53.32 | melkor_ | :-) |
| 12:53.33 | jm_ | xerophyte: man dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 12:53.51 | bob2 | xerophyte: the debconf comment was to jerome |
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| 12:54.37 | melkor_ | ah well i'm heading off to bed to get some shuteye, ta for help earlier bob2, much appreciated, stay cool everyone :-) |
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| 12:54.38 | jerome | bob2: oh, it's setup on normal, I then switcehd to low and nothing changed ... maybe the script has changed ... |
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| 12:55.13 | cafuego | Eat the squeaky toy! |
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| 12:55.22 | xerophyte | bob2 and jm_ thx |
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| 12:55.34 | Zap-W | wine can't run DOS realmode programs? |
| 12:56.08 | cafuego | Zap-W: it would neeed to give those apps direct access to the hardware, do you see that happening anytime soon? |
| 12:56.10 | bob2 | wine can't run dos programs |
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| 12:56.18 | vlsoft | Hi! Can someone help me out with cups? I have a postscript printer, on a "printer server"; it was configured as raw printer because clients sends postscript files. But page logging not works this way (1 page / print job). Can i tell somehow to cups, that it should count pages, but don't alter input? |
| 12:56.23 | bob2 | it's a funny object loader with some win32 libs |
| 12:56.24 | poli | Zap-W: Well, my information on that matter could be outdated, but you should try dosemu... |
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| 12:56.34 | xerophyte | What is the best IM for the linux i wanna connect to ICQ and AIM ? |
| 12:56.36 | cafuego | Zap-W: Try dosemu but really, I doubt you'll have any luck. |
| 12:56.39 | cafuego | xerophyte: gaim |
| 12:56.42 | jm_ | xera;try gaim |
| 12:56.49 | Zap-W | cafuego : dosemu dosen't even run here |
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| 12:57.11 | jm_ | dosemu works just fine, I used to play ski jumping game for it at work ;) |
| 12:57.16 | Zap-W | i just want to run duke3d |
| 12:57.22 | cafuego | Zap-W: That's a matter of pekcak then. |
| 12:57.27 | jm_ | cafuego: tab key works like in old ircii scripts for me |
| 12:57.30 | poli | Zap-W: try apt-get install dosemu-freedos |
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| 12:57.30 | Zap-W | jm_ : did you install it in sarge? |
| 12:57.42 | Zap-W | poli : yes i had both packages installed |
| 12:57.46 | jm_ | Zap-W: no, I was running it on redhat 6.1 box, it was many years ago |
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| 12:58.07 | Zap-W | exited back to the shell |
| 12:58.12 | bob2 | Zap-W: if it doesn't work, file a bug |
| 12:58.22 | riis | how do i respecify my mirrors? apt-something... |
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| 12:58.26 | bob2 | apt-setup |
| 12:58.31 | bob2 | but don't use that now |
| 12:58.36 | jm_ | riis: please write things down or use scrollback |
| 12:58.43 | bob2 | just edit /etc/apt/sources.list yourself to add the link from adrian's page |
| 12:58.45 | riis | sorry |
| 12:59.28 | riis | well I wanted to change it back to my original mirror with that fancy tool. my IRC client kicks out the old stuff so I can't scrollback... |
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| 12:59.40 | housetier | http://stan.kicks-ass.net/~housetier/sources.list.html |
| 12:59.55 | poli | riis: apt-get install irssi-text ;) |
| 13:00.13 | riis | poli : ) |
| 13:00.23 | vlsoft | Hi! Can someone help me out with cups? I have a postscript printer, on a "printer server"; it was configured as raw printer because clients sends postscript files. But page logging not works this way (1 page / print job). Can i tell somehow to cups, that it should count pages, but don't alter input? |
| 13:00.24 | jm_ | *** Lastlog size: 1000 |
| 13:00.28 | jerome | xerophyte: you should give a look at apt-cache (btw keep on using apt-get to install pkg, it's definitly an much more coherent approach than installing from sources ) |
| 13:00.30 | jm_ | it seems sufficient for #debian |
| 13:00.49 | jerome | xerophyte: test apt-cache show gaim and apt-cache search icq |
| 13:01.00 | poli | vlsoft: I had that same problem printing from SMB workstations... I didn't have to solve it, thou. :( |
| 13:01.23 | bob2 | vlsoft: clearly no, try debian-user. /msg dpkg d-u |
| 13:01.55 | Zap-W | jm_ : can you install dosemu with freedos tell me if it runs... |
| 13:02.12 | jm_ | Zap-W: not now, no - sorry |
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| 13:03.24 | bob2 | good luck. |
| 13:03.29 | poli | riis: Good luck |
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| 13:03.54 | bob2 | this dist-upgrade is taking forever |
| 13:03.54 | poli | riis: May de Gods of intialization help you in your task. |
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| 13:04.31 | xerophyte | jerome cool :-)thx |
| 13:04.31 | Zap-W | someone running sarge type: apt-get install dosemu-freedos ; dosemu |
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| 13:04.51 | xerophyte | I dont have the sound card working under linux what should i do ;) |
| 13:04.59 | bob2 | xerophyte: /msg dpkg audio |
| 13:05.03 | poli | Zap-W: I'm on Sid... I can't seem to get it to work also. :( |
| 13:05.28 | jerome | xerophyte: you should always ask google first. |
| 13:05.36 | xerophyte | jerome okay |
| 13:05.59 | xerophyte | I am using testing debian but i have 2.2 kernel ? |
| 13:06.13 | jerome | xerophyte: most of the time searching for "yourdevice linux" will lead you to a correct howto |
| 13:06.20 | Zap-W | poli : it exits back to the shell? |
| 13:06.36 | jerome | xerophyte: possible, just apt-get a more recent one |
| 13:06.50 | bob2 | xerophyte: you didn't read the install guide. /msg dpkg real kernel |
| 13:07.08 | xerophyte | jerome, thanks the problem is i dont knwo what kind of sound card i have its rx650 sony box .. i could not find the sound card spec ..even under windows it does not tells me |
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| 13:07.15 | poli | Zap-W: try dosemu.bin... the wrapper dosemu is somewhat neglecting the details. |
| 13:07.29 | jerome | bob2: would you mind to try a dpkg-reconfigure or debconf on vsftpd just to check if the inetd question is still there ? |
| 13:07.33 | bob2 | xerophyte: install a kernel-image package and "discover" |
| 13:07.38 | Zap-W | i found a dosemu fails to start on 2.6.0 kernel bug |
| 13:07.43 | bob2 | jerome: I don't have any ftp servers installed. |
| 13:07.44 | Zap-W | bugreport |
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| 13:07.46 | Zap-W | sec |
| 13:07.56 | poli | Zap-W: Did you try dosemu.bin ? |
| 13:07.59 | jerome | xerophyte: try lspci command |
| 13:08.06 | jerome | bob2: sorry then :) |
| 13:08.09 | xerophyte | jerome, thx let me see |
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| 13:08.56 | jerome | xerophyte: you should be able to see many devices such as SC, GC ... |
| 13:09.31 | Zap-W | poli : yes, it says the fix is in 1.2.0 and to wait til is packaged |
| 13:09.44 | HeRCuLeSX | hey Debian users |
| 13:09.45 | poli | Zap-W: hum... it seems to wrok just fine in the other woody box I have... |
| 13:09.55 | Zap-W | poli : what kernel |
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| 13:10.04 | poli | Zap-W: 2.4 |
| 13:10.07 | Spy | hi all :P |
| 13:10.19 | Zap-W | poli : i said 2.6.0 kernel |
| 13:10.28 | Spy | yeah he said that |
| 13:10.29 | xerophyte | jerome thanks it give me some info its intel 82820 camino 2 card, i dont how toget that working let me see |
| 13:10.40 | poli | Zap-W: I read what you saind and I told you that it does not work in my Sid 2.6.1 also. |
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| 13:11.02 | HeRCuLeSX | i've become so numb |
| 13:11.06 | Zap-W | i ment to say 2.6 kernels |
| 13:11.34 | poli | Zap-W: Did it hurt to know that it runs ok on a 2.4 woody? |
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| 13:12.23 | Zap-W | poli : yes i am suffering alot right now , i dont know how i will take it |
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| 13:13.06 | Zap-W | nah , ok well ...all good |
| 13:13.45 | zamolxes_ | any ideea how to print all PDF files in a directory from cli? (no xpdf&such) |
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| 13:14.18 | mosty | pdf2ps, then print as normal ? |
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| 13:15.04 | riis | well that was a minor disaster, I didn't even get a shell : ( |
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| 13:15.34 | gordonjcp | zamolxes_: you would need some way to convert them to a .ps |
| 13:15.34 | riis | those debian init scripts sure are excitingly colourful! |
| 13:15.34 | zamolxes_ | gordonjcp, oh. thought so. mkay thanks |
| 13:15.36 | gordonjcp | zamolxes_: if you've got apsfilter installed that would be a good start |
| 13:15.53 | zamolxes_ | ps2pdf, then lpr should do the trick (i have a PS printer) |
| 13:15.58 | bob2 | riis: they do the job. |
| 13:15.59 | gordonjcp | zamolxes_: yes |
| 13:16.09 | bob2 | riis: what actually happened? |
| 13:16.23 | gordonjcp | zamolxes_: if you're using apsfilter to print through, then you should be able to just say lpr thing.pdf |
| 13:16.35 | zamolxes_ | ok gordonjcp, let me see |
| 13:16.42 | gordonjcp | zamolxes_: so in theory, you could say "for i in *.pdf; do lpr $i; done; |
| 13:16.48 | riis | everything kinda started, then when X was coming up my screen did that mode change sound 6 times and nothing happened.... |
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| 13:17.02 | riis | then init whined with something about spawning too fast.... |
| 13:17.13 | bob2 | so X didn't start. |
| 13:17.14 | riis | but no shell, on any of the consoles.... |
| 13:17.16 | riis | no |
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| 13:17.32 | caphuso | gordonjcp: are there really any versions of lpr that can't handle multiple files at once? |
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| 13:17.42 | HeRCuLeSX | X X X |
| 13:17.42 | riis | can I just chroot, or do I have to do stuff first (like swapon) |
| 13:17.48 | gordonjcp | caphuso: don't know, I've never tried it with multiple files at once |
| 13:17.49 | HeRCuLeSX | Fedora user :P |
| 13:17.50 | kuru | I have cvs setup with pserver and it is 'supposedly' mapping all users to a single user 'cvsuser' in the password file (username:pass:cvsuser) |
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| 13:18.01 | xerophyte | under gnome where can i change the secreen resolution currenly i have 1600x1200 the fonts are so small i wanna change them to little bigger |
| 13:18.18 | kuru | for some reason, when a user has a shell account on the machine, whatever he/she commits is owned by that one person. |
| 13:18.20 | bob2 | HeRCuLeSX: do you want to talk abotu Debian? |
| 13:18.22 | pzn | hi folks. I need to boot debian in a machine without DMA. is there any "append" option that I can use to disable DMA? the error I get is "hda lost interrupt" |
| 13:18.33 | Skarmeth | hi, someone here using kerberos and samba? |
| 13:18.35 | kuru | how can I make it so the file is always owned by the 'cvsuser'? |
| 13:18.36 | bob2 | kuru: avoid pserver whenever possible. |
| 13:18.39 | pzn | ops... without DMA -> buggy DMA driver... |
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| 13:18.51 | bob2 | xerophyte: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 13:18.52 | kuru | bob2: well, with pserver ;) |
| 13:19.04 | gb | gday bob2 |
| 13:19.07 | kuru | bob2: I do plan to avoid it shortly.. but this is kind of a problem now. |
| 13:19.16 | bob2 | riis: if your existing system is booted, you can chroot into Debian right away |
| 13:19.26 | riis | ok |
| 13:19.28 | bob2 | riis: you'll want to mount /proc in th echroot, tho |
| 13:19.29 | poli | pzn: Oh... try man hdparm |
| 13:19.31 | bob2 | gb: hi. |
| 13:19.39 | gb | kuru: just leave my trojan init alone ok? |
| 13:19.57 | gb | you cant kill it anyway :) |
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| 13:20.22 | gb | hows life/death on the East coast? |
| 13:20.27 | jerome | whow |
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| 13:20.40 | gordonjcp | vinge just puked |
| 13:20.45 | poli | What was that? |
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| 13:20.51 | riis | bob2: mount /proc should do it right? |
| 13:21.49 | bob2 | riis: mount -t proc nodev /proc/ |
| 13:21.54 | bob2 | gb: too hot. the ntoo cold. |
| 13:21.56 | riis | darn |
| 13:21.56 | gb | busy mkfs ing my new 60gig notebook drive finally :) |
| 13:21.57 | bob2 | poli: netsplit |
| 13:22.14 | poli | bob2: Why the bans? |
| 13:22.25 | gb | ntoo?? |
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| 13:22.36 | gb | ah then :) |
| 13:22.39 | riis | bob2, if it's already in my /etc/fstab shoudl that be needed then? (just wondering) |
| 13:22.44 | bob2 | poli: the servers print them when they rejoin the network. nobod seems to know why |
| 13:22.55 | poli | bob2: lol |
| 13:23.11 | asterix | On of my debian machine has a strange root account "sashroot", i don't know how this account was created |
| 13:23.19 | gb | riis: if it's in fstab already try mount -a whioh should mount any unmounted stuff |
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| 13:23.37 | gb | thats what occurrs at boot basically |
| 13:24.00 | gb | you'll get some complaints from parts already mounted |
| 13:24.10 | riis | well proc is mounted twice now... |
| 13:24.17 | gb | but it'l soon tell you if your syntax is stuffed :) |
| 13:24.20 | riis | i only have / no other partitions... |
| 13:24.23 | asterix | Now i have 2 root account |
| 13:24.27 | bob2 | asterix: you install sash. |
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| 13:24.51 | asterix | bob2: What does sash? |
| 13:24.53 | riis | now, how do i tell xfree not to run at boot (runlevel 3) and WTF is that shit? |
| 13:25.03 | gb | Anyway back to playing mkfs :) |
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| 13:25.35 | Rawplayer | riis: use google or read manuals to figure out what that shit is |
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| 13:27.33 | riis | Rawplayer: Ok, I didn't know it would take a huge explanation.....sorry for the fowl language.... |
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| 13:27.50 | rellik_ | is there a keyboard shortcut to restart the X server? mine keeps crashing :( |
| 13:28.03 | pzn | do you know anu lilo append option to disable ide-dma? |
| 13:28.17 | karsten | rellik_: Yeah: less /var/log/XFree86.0.log and fix the bug. |
| 13:28.39 | karsten | pzn: Kernel options are listed under /usr/src/linux... |
| 13:28.49 | poli | pzn: You can disable it in kernel configuration... |
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| 13:29.22 | pzn | poli: sorry, but if I need to test it, better use an "lilo append" option if exists... |
| 13:29.23 | poli | pzn: There is some "Use DMS whenever possible" option. And some others... |
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| 13:29.46 | poli | pzn: Are you sure it is a buggy DMA? |
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| 13:30.06 | xerophyte | with X-windows you can have multi screen am i right .. how can i get that under gnome i dont have it in the panel ? |
| 13:30.10 | sunrise | hi all :) |
| 13:30.21 | rellik_ | karsten: it's not a problem with XFree.. it's a gnome problem |
| 13:30.22 | pzn | poli: yes, buggy hardware. the manufacturer says that the IDE won't work with DMA. |
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| 13:30.30 | mosty | xerophyte, google "xinerama" |
| 13:30.44 | sunrise | I've a question about package dependencies, especially about the keyword "Provides:" and version of the package itself |
| 13:30.46 | poli | pzn: Ouch... well, if you are that sure, disable it in the configuration... |
| 13:30.47 | caphuso | xerophyte: multiple screens as in multiple monitors? |
| 13:31.03 | sunrise | Have a package A version 1 that provides B. |
| 13:31.25 | xerophyte | caphuso, i am poor guy :) only one monitor ;) |
| 13:31.27 | sunrise | If an another package depends on B (>= 1) does A satisfy the dependency? dpkg fails for me :( |
| 13:31.35 | karsten | rellik_: Then use a real windowmanager ;-) |
| 13:31.39 | xerophyte | mosty, is that for one monitor or multi monitor |
| 13:31.56 | pzn | poli: I'd like to test before... just have default debian kernel. it will take too long to download the kernel source... |
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| 13:32.05 | karsten | rellik_: You can put your X starup in init, like RH does, to respawn. Or define an alias. Or run it in a loop. |
| 13:32.08 | poli | pzn: Anyway read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt |
| 13:32.17 | caphuso | xerophyte: then you're talking about virtual desktops? |
| 13:32.19 | sunrise | does someone have a tip for me what's wrong ? |
| 13:32.24 | xerophyte | caphuso, true |
| 13:32.40 | caphuso | xerophyte: depends on your window manager. check its docs |
| 13:32.46 | mosty | xerophyte, xinerama is when you have multiple physical displays |
| 13:33.04 | Supaplex | sunrise what about apt-get install b ? |
| 13:33.09 | xerophyte | caphuso, its gnome default install |
| 13:33.19 | caphuso | xerophyte: gnome is not a window manager |
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| 13:33.34 | xerophyte | caphuso, what kind of WM does the name comes with it |
| 13:33.37 | _sunrise | Supaplex: I've only a *.deb file; does it work with apt-get too ? |
| 13:33.38 | poli | pzn: Well, you should download the kernel source anyways... don't get going with vanilla... BUT try ide0=nodma |
| 13:33.51 | caphuso | xerophyte: probably either sawfish or metacity |
| 13:34.14 | Supaplex | _sunrise note unless the same package is on a deb repository... |
| 13:34.19 | pzn | poli: I'll try in a minute... thanks! |
| 13:34.22 | xerophyte | caphuso, what windows manager is good |
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| 13:34.55 | caphuso | xerophyte: that's a question you have to answer yourself. i really don't think that the window managers i consider to be good will match your needs |
| 13:35.02 | xerophyte | caphuso, how can i find out what windows manager am i running currently ? |
| 13:35.08 | caphuso | xerophyte: ps |
| 13:35.08 | _sunrise | Supaplex: no it is no. This package name is only available for me or local if you want |
| 13:35.19 | poli | pzn: /join #flood |
| 13:35.58 | xerophyte | caphuso, okay i am running sawfish, how do i get the virtual desktop under it |
| 13:36.10 | Supaplex | _sunrise ok, are you able to uninstall a, then install b? |
| 13:36.15 | caphuso | xerophyte: *sigh* check its docs |
| 13:36.23 | xerophyte | caphuso, thx let me see |
| 13:38.55 | xerophyte | my gnome menu is not updating it, i mean i have installed openoffice, i dont see under the panel :) sorry for lots of questions just installed the debian just wanna get the basic things going then i will certainly read the doc but i need the basic stuff fixed before i go and read :) |
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| 13:40.04 | _sunrise | Supaplex: done, I've removed A and installed B (I hope you know that I need A ;) |
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| 13:45.14 | Supaplex | _sunrise well then, install a again? maybe if we knew the package names, we'd be aware of any caveats. only 2 packages involved, right? |
| 13:45.33 | Supaplex | I need to jet to work, ttyl sunrise. (and where is my sun already???) |
| 13:46.05 | coolnewbie | hi i configured anonymous ftp on vsftpd but remote login is not possible what should i do |
| 13:46.30 | _sunrise | Supaplex: yes only two packages are involved; I will uninstall B and install A again... |
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| 13:46.52 | Supaplex | coolnewbie and what have you done so far? |
| 13:48.03 | coolnewbie | Supaplex:i installed vsftpd configure anonymous ftp i can login locally but remote login is not possible |
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| 13:48.34 | Hal9002 | whats the command to send me a file via email using sendmail? cat file | /usr/lib/sendmail and which parameters? |
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| 13:48.47 | JefPober | anyone has any idea where gimp 1.3 has gone in sid? it used to be /usr/bin/gimp-1.3 but it's gone :) |
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| 13:50.43 | coolnewbie | Supaplex:i have added "vsftpd=ALL" in hosts.allow but still remote login is not possible |
| 13:51.28 | caphuso | wow |
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| 13:51.35 | ronk0 | someone knows what is vector linux |
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| 13:52.12 | caphuso | some people really shouldn't be allowed to publish their ideas of linux as desktop OS on the internet |
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| 13:53.27 | caphuso | how can you talk about standards and then using non-standard paths like /Home, /Temp and /Var? |
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| 13:53.58 | asg | caphuso: at least they didn't propose 'My\ Desktop' (or did they?) |
| 13:54.23 | jon_ | would someone like to tell me how to restart samba without useing kill? |
| 13:54.29 | caphuso | asg: nah |
| 13:54.32 | asg | jon_: /etc/init.d/samba restart |
| 13:54.36 | caphuso | jon_: /etc/init.d/samba help |
| 13:54.39 | idimmu | which crazed desktop anarchists suggest these standards then? |
| 13:54.55 | caphuso | idimmu: some moron at osviews.com |
| 13:55.03 | jon_ | ooo... same as mysql, you could use that for alot of stuff couldnt you? |
| 13:55.07 | idimmu | ta |
| 13:55.09 | caphuso | jon_: ls /etc/init.d/ |
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| 13:55.14 | asg | jon_: yes |
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| 13:58.36 | _sunrise | Supaplex: :( that is terrible nothing changed |
| 14:00.31 | ronk0 | why open office if is lowwwlest? |
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| 14:01.27 | Jarjar26 | Are there a way to cloning hard disk of 40 gig on hardik of 15 gig ? |
| 14:01.43 | jm_ | Jarjar26: cp |
| 14:02.01 | Jarjar26 | cp not cloning partition :( |
| 14:02.13 | jon_ | Jarjar26: hahaha, you can use norton ghost as long as you dont have over 15gb used on the 40gb |
| 14:02.17 | mosty | jarjar, cp -apm |
| 14:03.36 | Jarjar26 | mosty: heu , just only need to type cp -apm ? |
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| 14:03.58 | mosty | jarjar, no |
| 14:04.12 | caphuso | cp doesn't have a -m option |
| 14:04.34 | mosty | er, i think i meant -apx |
| 14:04.52 | caphuso | and -a includes -p |
| 14:05.04 | caphuso | (cosmetic error) |
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| 14:05.24 | pzn | which is the command line to get the default kernel bf24 source? apt-get source whichpackage? |
| 14:05.43 | caphuso | pzn: apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 |
| 14:05.49 | De_Mon_ | I installed dict and dictd a few weeks ago, but get an access denied error whenever I try to connect to the database from localhost (dict: Access to server localhost.2628 denied when connecting |
| 14:05.53 | De_Mon_ | ) |
| 14:06.22 | De_Mon_ | yet the config and hosts.allow/deny show everything as it should be for this to work |
| 14:06.44 | caphuso | De_Mon_: what does 'lsof -i :dict' say? |
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| 14:07.32 | xerophyte | okay i upgrade to the gnome 2.4 now my desktop got screwed its says "There was an error starting the gnome setting daemon and its not starting the window manager .. how can i fix this |
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| 14:09.33 | De_Mon_ | caphuso dictd 17360 dictd 9u IPv4 4519865 TCP *:dict (LISTEN) |
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| 14:10.18 | caphuso | De_Mon_: and your acess configuration in /etc/dictd/dictd.conf is correct? |
| 14:10.41 | streuner | xerophyte: /msg dpkg wm |
| 14:10.53 | De_Mon_ | it is. "allow localhost" and "allow 127.0.0.1" are both in the access section |
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| 14:11.43 | streuner | xerophyte: try apt-get install sawfish-gnome |
| 14:12.02 | caphuso | De_Mon_: and 'telnet localhost dict' does what? |
| 14:12.16 | ronk0 | how can i print a file in /proc?? |
| 14:12.27 | streuner | cat /proc/blah |
| 14:12.39 | pzn | caphuso: Package kernel-source-2.4.18 has no available version, but exists in the database |
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| 14:12.59 | caphuso | pzn: what version of debian is that? |
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| 14:13.32 | pzn | caphuso: my machine is testing... I want to compile the package for using in woody |
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| 14:13.45 | caphuso | pzn: get the package from woody |
| 14:13.45 | ndee | where's the directory again where everything is copied from if you use the command 'useradd'? |
| 14:13.52 | mosty | pzn: download it from www.kernel.org |
| 14:13.53 | caphuso | ndee: /etc/skel/ |
| 14:13.56 | ndee | caphuso: thx |
| 14:14.15 | caphuso | mosty: he wants the default bf24 source |
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| 14:14.45 | mosty | oh. then download the source from a debian source mirror |
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| 14:15.25 | streuner | mosty: i don't think you can get bf2.4 sources at the mirrors? |
| 14:15.49 | streuner | xerophyte: try apt-get install sawfish-gnome |
| 14:16.01 | indes | people.debian.org/~blade had a bf2.4 netinst |
| 14:16.06 | ComradeP | Could someone help me get my sound back in working order? Running Sid/KDE3.1.4 with artsd on Linux 2.6.1... snd_intel8x0 is the module I need, it's modprobed & recognised, but no sound to be heard... and yes, I have unmuted all channels... it used to work, then randomly stopped.. any ideas? |
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| 14:16.43 | streuner | ComradeP: disable ARTS |
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| 14:17.05 | ComradeP | streuner: I thought that was the sound server? |
| 14:17.10 | xerophyte | streuner, its already installed but i configured the wm as default and only the wm is starting nothing else |
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| 14:17.12 | ComradeP | streuner: what would happen without it? |
| 14:17.17 | streuner | ComradeP: right |
| 14:17.20 | poli | ComradeP: Did you in fact raise the volume in Master? (that's different from umute!) |
| 14:17.46 | ComradeP | poli: yes, none of the volumes I can alter are at zero (most > 50%), and all channels are unmuted according to alsamixer |
| 14:17.48 | streuner | ComradeP: you can't hear any noises when you close an window of your browser ;-) |
| 14:18.04 | ComradeP | oh no.. I so needed that ;) |
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| 14:18.04 | ComradeP | j/k |
| 14:18.05 | ComradeP | hmm |
| 14:18.06 | ComradeP | you think that might help? |
| 14:18.16 | poli | ComradeP: Try catting something to /dev/dsp and see is some noise comes out. |
| 14:18.31 | streuner | xerophyte: /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 14:18.32 | ComradeP | poli: ok, on it :) |
| 14:19.15 | ComradeP | hmm |
| 14:19.17 | ComradeP | weird |
| 14:19.20 | ComradeP | "permission denied" |
| 14:19.25 | ComradeP | even as root? :o |
| 14:19.26 | poli | ComradeP: hummmm |
| 14:19.37 | poli | ComradeP: Try getting the permission right in /dev/dsp |
| 14:19.51 | streuner | ComradeP: is the module (sound) loaded? |
| 14:19.53 | poli | ComradeP: permission denied != from no such device. |
| 14:19.58 | ComradeP | ok... it might be the wrong group.. it's owned by root, not audio... |
| 14:20.02 | ComradeP | it's got mode 755 atm |
| 14:20.11 | streuner | !audio |
| 14:20.11 | dpkg | To configure sound in Debian: first, use modconf to load your driver. Then add yourself to the audio group (adduser username audio) and logout and back in. If you use ISA PnP and 2.2.x, ask me about "isapnp sound". If you don't know what driver to use, start with "lspci -v" and "pnpdump". Install a mixer (e.g. gmix) and make sure the volume is not set to zero in software. If you have no modules, ask me about "idepci". |
| 14:20.15 | ComradeP | streuner: snd_intel8x0? that's loaded, yes |
| 14:20.17 | poli | ComradeP: 775? You want to execute it? |
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| 14:20.41 | ComradeP | poli: lol, haven't touched the permissions |
| 14:20.45 | streuner | ComradeP: logout and back it |
| 14:20.56 | ComradeP | doesn't help, struener... tried that & rebooting & whatnot |
| 14:20.58 | streuner | s/it/in/ |
| 14:21.05 | ComradeP | what should the permissions be? 666? |
| 14:21.12 | poli | ComradeP: Add yourself to audio, log out and back in. |
| 14:21.27 | poli | ComradeP: How about 664, group audio and you in audio? |
| 14:21.29 | caphuso | ComradeP: 660 |
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| 14:21.33 | ComradeP | poli: ok... just a moment tho |
| 14:21.35 | ComradeP | ok |
| 14:21.37 | caphuso | poli: no! |
| 14:21.42 | streuner | ComradeP: you shouldn't change anything to /dev/dsp |
| 14:21.45 | Nitrocld | is there a problem with experimental's sources? |
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| 14:22.28 | ComradeP | it looks like this: /dev/dsp is a pointer to /dev/dsp0, which has modes 666 and is in the right group. there's also a /dev/dsp.old, which I find a bit strange... also /dev/dsp1-3 |
| 14:22.46 | ComradeP | poli: and my user *is* in audio |
| 14:22.50 | ComradeP | just checked |
| 14:22.51 | streuner | ComradeP: run 'fuser -k /dev/dsp' |
| 14:22.52 | caphuso | ComradeP: chmod that all back to a sane 660 |
| 14:23.14 | felixdz | Hello. I just got a copy of Xandros Desktop 2.0 which is Debian based (used to be Corel)... |
| 14:23.14 | poli | ComradeP: My /dev/dsp0 is 660, /dev/dsp is 755.., |
| 14:23.16 | ComradeP | streuner: empty output |
| 14:23.25 | indes | COREL?! AH |
| 14:23.26 | ComradeP | poli: is /dev/dsp owned by root:root? |
| 14:23.36 | ComradeP | if it is, then I have the same set-up |
| 14:23.38 | indes | ComradeP: like everything else, yes |
| 14:23.42 | streuner | ComradeP: do you get sound now? |
| 14:23.44 | poli | ComradeP: Yes... /dev/dsp0 root.audio |
| 14:23.52 | felixdz | I am reading a Subject: Corel to Debian micro-howto ... |
| 14:23.59 | ComradeP | poli: hmm... group is root for me.. might change that to audio |
| 14:24.07 | felixdz | at this url: http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2000/25/mail#2 |
| 14:24.23 | felixdz | Would this also work for Xandros? |
| 14:24.31 | poli | caphuso: Should /dev/dsp be 660 also? |
| 14:24.41 | ComradeP | poli: streuner: but I wouldn't have thought it's just a permission problem, because root doesn't get sound either |
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| 14:25.23 | streuner | ComreadeP: sound-daemon prolly blocks /dev/dsp |
| 14:25.36 | ComradeP | hmm |
| 14:25.55 | streuner | ComradeP: that's usually the error in the first place |
| 14:25.57 | ComradeP | I was just going to say.... cat <largefile> | /dev/dsp results in "/dev/dsp: Permission denied" even for root |
| 14:26.07 | ComradeP | streuner: any idea how to confirm that/fix it? |
| 14:26.30 | streuner | ComradeP: listen to an mp3 or way or whatever |
| 14:26.37 | streuner | s/way/wav/ |
| 14:26.45 | ComradeP | streuner: silence |
| 14:26.56 | poli | streuner: I'm running arts and /dev/dsp is writable. |
| 14:26.57 | ComradeP | hmm.. could try to boot into single user mode and try to play something then without arts |
| 14:27.00 | treestone | ComradeP: cat <largefile> > /dev/dsp (don't use | for that) |
| 14:27.12 | ComradeP | doh |
| 14:27.15 | ComradeP | sorry guys :) |
| 14:27.35 | ComradeP | no, speakers remain silent |
| 14:27.36 | poli | caphuso: Should /dev/dsp be 660 also? |
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| 14:27.53 | caphuso | poli: it's just a symlink, permissions on it don't matter |
| 14:28.04 | streuner | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2003-08-05 17:48 /dev/dsp -> /dev/dsp0 |
| 14:28.32 | streuner | crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2003-08-05 17:48 /dev/dsp0 |
| 14:29.35 | ComradeP | join #flood for my results, streuner |
| 14:29.44 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:29.49 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.33 | helix | /exec -o kicks ass |
| 14:31.12 | gordonjcp | what does it do? |
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| 14:31.17 | De_Mon_ | caphuso telnet localhost dictd -> "530 access denied |
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| 14:31.22 | helix | gordonjcp: try it. /exec -o uptime |
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| 14:31.45 | amphi | gordonjcp: runs a command and dumps the output in the channel |
| 14:31.52 | gordonjcp | heh |
| 14:31.54 | helix | yeah. it's neat |
| 14:31.58 | De_Mon_ | caphuso i did 'telnet dict' |
| 14:32.01 | helix | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.05 | helix | teh suck |
| 14:32.09 | helix | but there you have it |
| 14:32.15 | gordonjcp | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.18 | caphuso | De_Mon_: "telnet dict"? |
| 14:32.35 | gordonjcp | I had to reboot because I needed to change from compiled-in usb-storage to a module |
| 14:32.41 | De_Mon_ | bah! "telnet localhost dict" |
| 14:32.42 | helix | gordonjcp: sure. |
| 14:33.02 | gordonjcp | I'm really sick about rebooting my big server a few months back |
| 14:33.12 | De_Mon_ | i said dictd the very first time and was trying to correct myself :] |
| 14:33.13 | Nitrocld | what happened? |
| 14:33.32 | qzio | *shrug* |
| 14:33.50 | Nitrocld | I got to 49 days once, and then the power went out, then I got to 9 days then my mom unplugged the computer, then I got to 15 and my dad tripped over the cord |
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| 14:34.17 | De_Mon_ | suffice to say 530 access denied :/ |
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| 14:34.49 | helix | in the winter months i usually can manage to stay up for ~50 days.. barring human caused problems :) |
| 14:34.59 | helix | but the summer time i am rebooted every other day |
| 14:35.12 | poli | helix: why is that? |
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| 14:35.22 | helix | poli: because i live in florida |
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| 14:35.27 | caphuso | De_Mon: something's wrong with your access settings |
| 14:35.28 | poli | helix: and.... |
| 14:35.32 | helix | the storms knock the power out |
| 14:35.37 | treestone | power failure is very unusual around here so I only reboot when I upgrade the kernel for some reason. |
| 14:35.43 | zamk | hi |
| 14:35.45 | poli | helix: sucks... |
| 14:35.45 | caphuso | De_Mon: or maybe your /etc/hosts. what does 'host localhost' say? |
| 14:36.02 | helix | treestone: where do you live? i'm moving there. |
| 14:36.11 | joaquin | I'm using the 3c95x driver, I have a 3Com Boomerang and it hangs under heavy traffic. I get NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0 transmit timed out, and I have to reboot to get the card back on again. Anybody knows this? I found a lot of reports on Google but no solution. :( |
| 14:36.12 | treestone | helix: Scandinavia :-) |
| 14:36.16 | joaquin | Kernel 2.6.1, Debian testing |
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| 14:36.29 | helix | oh, hrm. |
| 14:36.36 | De_Mon | caphuso wtf, it says localhost.nexus.delushonal.net |
| 14:36.44 | poli | helix: I manage long long uptimes with the precious help of an UPS. :) Sometimes it just isn't enough... :( |
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| 14:36.56 | helix | poli: i've considered getting one of those.. |
| 14:36.58 | ComradeP | poli: streuner: sorry guys.. killed XServer accidentally |
| 14:37.09 | helix | poli: i think i have enough systems to warrant it now |
| 14:37.30 | streuner | ComradeP: good, so you logout and back in? ;-) |
| 14:37.38 | ComradeP | streuner: lol, yep |
| 14:37.41 | ComradeP | still no joy :( |
| 14:38.05 | ComradeP | it's actually a bit screwed atm, can't log in to KDE.. ;) hangs on Initialising Devices |
| 14:38.08 | streuner | run the two commands i told you |
| 14:38.13 | poli | helix: I have a real psychological problem booting long-lasting servers... Every kernel update I need to implement I have to install, get it ready to reboot and schedule it with cron... in the meanwhile, I usually leave the building and go for a walk... :) |
| 14:38.19 | ComradeP | streuner: say them again? |
| 14:38.25 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:38.28 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:38.32 | ComradeP | crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 Oct 29 15:01 /dev/dsp0 |
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| 14:38.38 | zamk | i have a dell laptop and intel o/b display card and im using debian 3.0 r1 but i can't use kde when i write startx it gives an error like this: addscreen/Screeninit failed for driver 0 |
| 14:38.40 | ComradeP | ls: dsp: No such file or directory |
| 14:38.45 | ComradeP | lrwxr-xr-x 1 root audio 9 Oct 29 15:01 /dev/dsp -> /dev/dsp0 |
| 14:38.45 | helix | poli: haha.. |
| 14:39.00 | zamk | what should i do? |
| 14:39.01 | streuner | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2003-08-05 17:48 /dev/dsp -> /dev/dsp0 |
| 14:39.14 | streuner | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2003-08-05 17:48 /dev/dsp -> /dev/dsp0 |
| 14:39.14 | hallux | Do I need to install all of the java dummy packages for stable like i do in unstable? |
| 14:39.21 | ComradeP | streuner: you think it's because I don't give write access to them?? |
| 14:39.48 | streuner | crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2003-08-05 17:48 /dev/dsp0 |
| 14:40.22 | ComradeP | hmm |
| 14:40.23 | zamk | i have a dell laptop and intel o/b display card and im using debian 3.0 r1 but i can't use kde when i write startx it gives an error like this: addscreen/Screeninit failed for driver 0 |
| 14:40.25 | De_Mon | /etc/hosts says 127.0.0.1 localhost, 192.168.2.1 says arbiter.nexus.delushonal.net arbiter ... |
| 14:40.29 | ComradeP | streuner: poli: 2 ticks, re-login again |
| 14:40.40 | De_Mon | s/says/is/ |
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| 14:40.59 | ComradeP | hmm... |
| 14:41.06 | De_Mon | that substitution would work right |
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| 14:41.20 | zamk | will anyone help me? |
| 14:42.11 | zamk | i have a dell laptop and intel o/b display card and im using debian 3.0 r1 but i can't use kde when i write startx it gives an error like this: addscreen/Screeninit failed for driver 0 |
| 14:42.20 | Nitrocld | odd |
| 14:42.20 | zamk | what should i do? |
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| 14:42.35 | De_Mon | caphuso can i get 'host localhost' not to appened the domain, or should i add localhost to the zonefile? |
| 14:42.46 | ComradeP | streuner: poli: so what's with the /dev/dsp.old file I've got lying around? does anyone else have one? |
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| 14:43.05 | streuner | LSorensen: /dev/dsp.old: No such file or directory |
| 14:43.13 | Nitrocld | zamk: have you configured your card? |
| 14:43.18 | ndee | hi there, I'm using qmail and have a question. I have to create aliases for e-mail adresses like: firstname@domain.com, lastname@domain.com, firstname.lastname@domain.com. Now my question: Do I have to make 3 alias-files for each account there is? |
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| 14:43.32 | LoRez | ndee: no, one alias file with three lines |
| 14:43.40 | zamk | how can i Nitrocld? |
| 14:43.45 | ndee | LoRez: How would that file look like? |
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| 14:44.01 | ComradeP | streuner: poli: so what's with the /dev/dsp.old file I've got lying around? does anyone else have one? |
| 14:44.01 | LoRez | ndee: man aliases |
| 14:44.05 | caphuso | De_Mon: is the IP of your localhost.nexus.blah 127.0.0.1? |
| 14:44.08 | ComradeP | (sorry0 |
| 14:44.11 | treestone | ComradeP: This probably doesn't help, but I have a laptop where the sound suddenly started to misbhave. It's somehow releated to KDE. Anyway, the only way I can get it to work is by following this procedure: 1) Boot system 2) Start KDE 3) Load sound modules [by whatever mechanism you use, I have an /etc/init.d/ script] 4) mpg123 somefile.mp3 > /dev/audio 5) While that is running, start kmix, set volume and pcm, everything OK. If I try to start kmix |
| 14:44.11 | ComradeP | didn't mean to repost |
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| 14:44.17 | hallux | Are there Debian packages that include the javax.mail api? |
| 14:44.37 | ComradeP | treestone: hmm.. will try |
| 14:44.47 | CtrlAltDel | hi, i've just started using linux and am trying to get xwindows working, i keep getting the error "Screen found, but none have a usable configuration." i don't know what configuration is usable and have tried quite a few times and don't seem to be able to get it working, anyone got any tips? |
| 14:44.56 | treestone | (continued) .. and no other sequence of events will result in sound. Weird, eh? |
| 14:45.01 | caphuso | CtrlAltDel: /msg dpkg noscreensfound |
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| 14:45.11 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 14:45.43 | De_Mon | caphuso there is no localhost.nexus.bah zone record, should there be? |
| 14:45.54 | streuner | ComradeP: well, i saw an difference between your link (dev/dsp) and mine, but you changed everything, that i would rather recommend just reinstall new :-) |
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| 14:46.11 | ComradeP | treestone: nope, still no sound |
| 14:46.12 | caphuso | De_Mon: are you telling me that 'host localhost' doesn't return an IP? |
| 14:46.23 | treestone | Ok, no ideas then. |
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| 14:46.40 | ComradeP | ok.. what's the difference between /dev/dsp* and /dev/audio*? |
| 14:47.01 | xerophyte | How can i start the KDE my ngome saying "There was an error starting the GNOME setting daemon and giving me ugly desktop" |
| 14:47.07 | joaquin | Hey there. I got a NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0 transmit timed out with my 3c95x module. I'm running Debian testing, kernel 2.6.1. I found lots of reports of this on Google, but no solutions. Has anyone dealt with this already? It only happens under heavy traffic. |
| 14:47.09 | ComradeP | also, do you guys think it's good that I have 2 artsd processes running at the same time? ;) |
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| 14:47.28 | ribnitz | Has anyone here used docbook (the docbook-package in sarge) to build a website? |
| 14:47.32 | BriajWrk | hi all |
| 14:47.38 | ribnitz | hekki BriajWrk |
| 14:47.49 | BriajWrk | i have the following error on Sarge: KDGKBENT at index 128 in table 0: Invalid argument |
| 14:48.04 | caphuso | ribnitz: do you plan to publish the website as PDF or similar? |
| 14:48.07 | BriajWrk | does anyone why i have this error booting? |
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| 14:48.14 | xerophyte | caphuso, how can i start the Kde |
| 14:48.28 | SlayerXP | launch every window manager! |
| 14:48.31 | caphuso | xerophyte: update-alternatives --config x-session-manager |
| 14:48.32 | CtrlAltDel | opps, i hadn't run this config before :$ |
| 14:48.38 | ribnitz | caphuso: I am envisioning it, however, atm there's perhaps 40 pages. |
| 14:48.44 | SlayerXP | someone set up us the wm! |
| 14:48.48 | SlayerXP | *ahem* |
| 14:48.57 | CtrlAltDel | some of it i remember, but some seems new :/ |
| 14:49.05 | ribnitz | caphuso: My problem is that I can't be able to find an intor to the docbook-website part. |
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| 14:49.23 | hallux | Is there a Debian package that contains the javamail api? |
| 14:49.30 | xerophyte | caphuso, There is only 1 program which provides x-session-manager |
| 14:49.33 | caphuso | ribnitz: docbook2html isn#t what you need? |
| 14:49.45 | xerophyte | caphuso, how can i fix that for the KDE to start |
| 14:49.46 | caphuso | xerophyte: and that would be which one? |
| 14:50.01 | xerophyte | caphuso, /usr/bin/gnome-session |
| 14:50.19 | CtrlAltDel | IT WORKS! |
| 14:50.21 | caphuso | xerophyte: don't you think that it would be a good idea to install KDE before trying to start it? |
| 14:50.21 | CtrlAltDel | YEY :D |
| 14:50.25 | ribnitz | caphuso: was more thinking of using xsltproc. (Even the docbook part doesn't exist yet). Just found out that the demo page they have for docbook website looks rather good |
| 14:50.31 | xerophyte | caphuso, i have KDE |
| 14:50.34 | CtrlAltDel | thank Debain bot thing :D |
| 14:50.39 | caphuso | xerophyte: from where? |
| 14:50.51 | xerophyte | caphuso, from testing |
| 14:50.56 | ribnitz | CtrlAltDel: why shouldnt it? |
| 14:50.56 | caphuso | xerophyte: no, you don't |
| 14:51.03 | xerophyte | caphuso, how do i check |
| 14:51.19 | caphuso | xerophyte: you just did, and it told you that KDE isn't available... |
| 14:51.19 | xerophyte | caphuso, i am sure i have just installed kword and it installed everything for me |
| 14:51.26 | caphuso | xerophyte: it installed kword |
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| 14:51.39 | CtrlAltDel | it wasn't working before coz i had some setting wrong |
| 14:51.40 | xerophyte | caphuso, okay what do i need to install |
| 14:51.52 | caphuso | xerophyte: well, the core KDE parts would be a good start |
| 14:51.53 | ndee | LoRez: you mean the dot-qmail man page? |
| 14:51.55 | CtrlAltDel | now it does and i am most happy :) |
| 14:51.58 | ribnitz | xerophyte: you need a wm/desktop env? |
| 14:52.15 | caphuso | ribnitz: sorry, never used xsltproc. can't help with that |
| 14:52.29 | LoRez | ndee: no, I generally mean what I say. |
| 14:52.31 | ribnitz | caphuso: but you used docbook to build websites? |
| 14:52.37 | xerophyte | ribnitz, i have installed gnome 2.4 its giving me error " There was an error starting the gnome setttings daemon and the desktop look ugly |
| 14:53.04 | ribnitz | xerophyte: IIRC Gnome 2.4 isn't quite as stable as it should be. |
| 14:53.04 | xerophyte | caphuso, how can is tall the cored i am sure i have kde because when i first start the box it was kde .. now id ont know where did goo |
| 14:53.08 | caphuso | ribnitz: i've used docbook to write a few small things i changed to HTML (think tldp.org stuff like) |
| 14:53.09 | keith_ | where can i get a debian floppy disc install from? |
| 14:53.09 | CtrlAltDel | Debian>Windows :) |
| 14:53.20 | caphuso | keith_: from the links mentioned in the install guide |
| 14:53.56 | xerophyte | ribnitz, how can i nstall KDE with apt-get |
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| 14:54.08 | ndee | LoRez: Just reading it. It says: These files contain mail addresses or aliases, recognized by |
| 14:54.09 | wuhuu | hi |
| 14:54.09 | ndee | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.23 | ribnitz | xerophyte: apt-get install kde-base (or -core, or whatever the pkgname) |
| 14:54.44 | wuhuu | howto set a gid for all files/folders in a certain folder ?? |
| 14:55.05 | caphuso | wuhuu: man chgrp |
| 14:55.05 | ribnitz | wuhuu: SGID. info chmod |
| 14:55.18 | treestone | xerophyte: Figure out what you want with "apt-cache search kde|grep desktop" |
| 14:55.26 | wuhuu | thx |
| 14:55.53 | LoRez | ndee: I really don't need a status report. that file contains the information you need to build an aliases file. |
| 14:55.55 | CtrlAltDel | my mouse is dead, whats the keyboard shortcut to shut down KDE? |
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| 14:56.15 | ribnitz | CtrlAltDel: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace (kills the wm) |
| 14:56.16 | treestone | xerophyte: And if you install kdm as well you'll get a menu to select which wm/desktop you want to run. |
| 14:56.17 | xerophyte | treestone, Sorry, kdesktop is already the newest version. |
| 14:56.24 | caphuso | ribnitz: kills the X server |
| 14:56.37 | xerophyte | okay back to windows for now ;0 |
| 14:57.02 | rellik_ | if I ctrl-z a program running in a konsole, do I have to leave that konsole up for the program to keep going? |
| 14:57.18 | ribnitz | rellik_: detatch.. |
| 14:57.30 | ribnitz | er or detach |
| 14:58.00 | treestone | xerophyte: Well then, what does "cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager" output then? |
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| 14:58.07 | rellik_ | no "detach" in man... what's the keywork? ribnitz? |
| 14:58.08 | ComradeP | poli: streuner: Hmm... Do you think it's normal that a 'lsof | grep artsd' shows that artsd is accessing /dev/null but neither /dev/dsp* nor /dev/audio*? |
| 14:58.13 | luca__ | Question for experts. |
| 14:58.31 | xerophyte | xerophyte:~# cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 14:58.31 | xerophyte | /usr/bin/kdm |
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| 14:58.49 | xerophyte | treestone, and there is no kdm to choose from |
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| 14:58.55 | treestone | xerophyte: And kdm doesn't give you the choice of kde in the login menu? |
| 14:59.04 | treestone | or isn't it starting kdm? |
| 14:59.21 | xerophyte | treestone, its start with kdm but there is no kde in there |
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| 14:59.49 | xerophyte | does anybody knwo how to fix this gnome error " There was an error starting the GNOME settings deamon" |
| 14:59.51 | luca__ | suppose you run "startx &" on the first terminal. suppose you have to go away for a moment. so you run xlock or whatever to protect x from intrusions, but the terminal is still accessible by pressing the usual alt+f1. this is unsafe. so how to protect the terminal also? |
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| 15:00.34 | g4lt | luca__ lockvc on vt1 |
| 15:00.41 | ribnitz | luca__: use a gdm/wdm/xdm thing to log in |
| 15:00.51 | luca__ | ribnitz, i can't.. |
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| 15:01.01 | luca__ | ribnitz, suppose i cannot use them |
| 15:01.02 | xerophyte | Bigest problem with linux we spend time fixing linux then .. get some work done ;) |
| 15:01.06 | treestone | xerophyte: grep SessionTypes /etc/kde2/kdm/kdmrc |
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| 15:01.36 | xerophyte | treestone, SessionTypes=default,twm,sawfish,wmaker,gnome-session,kde2,failsafe |
| 15:01.39 | asterix | How can i change terminal font settigns (size, font type), i want to use terminus |
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| 15:01.43 | ComradeP | poli: streuner: Hmm... Do you think it's normal that a 'lsof | grep artsd' shows that artsd is accessing /dev/null but neither /dev/dsp* nor /dev/audio*? |
| 15:02.03 | joaquin | How can I add parameters to a module in Debian? In /etc/modules.conf it says not to touch that file... |
| 15:02.06 | luca__ | g4lt, hmm...it doesn't sound to be a standard tool... |
| 15:02.29 | zanzamzanzam | hello, i have one question.. Intel® E7501 chipset is supported by debian or kernel 2.4 or (better) 2.6? |
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| 15:02.55 | jerome | hum ... If I decide to launch vsftpd from within inetd, should I see vsftpd in ps aux after I /etc/init.d/inetd start ? |
| 15:02.59 | jerome | or restart |
| 15:03.02 | caphuso | jerome: no |
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| 15:03.07 | ribnitz | zanzamzanzam: thats a more or less normal chipset, isn't it?- then yes |
| 15:03.21 | caphuso | jerome: you should see it after connecting to your ftpd |
| 15:04.57 | \Igor\ | joaquin: you can create a file in /etc/modutils, then run update-modules (this generates the /etc/modules.conf file), or just put in the module name with parameters into the /etc/modules file |
| 15:05.07 | zanzamzanzam | i'm going to buy Intel® Server Board SE7501HG2 for a webserver, but intel have tested this mb only on redhat linux |
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| 15:05.24 | zanzamzanzam | and windows.. |
| 15:05.31 | ribnitz | zanzamzanzam: If it works with rh, it will work with debian |
| 15:05.31 | bob2 | zanzamzanzam: debian and redhat use more or less the same kernel |
| 15:05.36 | ppmbx | zanzamzanzam, if its good enough for redhat, its good enough for debian |
| 15:05.37 | \Igor\ | zanzamzanzam: redhat linux == linux |
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| 15:05.57 | deanrantala | ok.. I tried to cheat last night... |
| 15:06.03 | deanrantala | ...I did knoppix install |
| 15:06.07 | deanrantala | and I repent |
| 15:06.08 | g4lt | \Igor\ no, linux > redhat linux ;P |
| 15:06.10 | deanrantala | now... |
| 15:06.13 | ufk | i installed postfix and i can't seem to get mail to my local users. any ideas? to try any other program? |
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| 15:06.23 | bob2 | ufk: configure it properly |
| 15:06.28 | \Igor\ | g4lt: unfortunately ascii lacks a "subset of" symbol |
| 15:06.29 | ppmbx | g4lt, so very true :D |
| 15:06.31 | g4lt | now your sins are coming back to haunt you? |
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| 15:06.37 | deanrantala | yes |
| 15:06.39 | deanrantala | they are |
| 15:06.42 | deanrantala | lol |
| 15:06.43 | ufk | bob2: with dpkg-configure i set it to internet site and to use procmail, and when i send mail to ufk@localhost it doesn't work |
| 15:06.52 | joaquin | \Igor\ :thx! |
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| 15:07.13 | bob2 | ufk: read your logs and see what it's doing. |
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| 15:07.58 | xerophyte | oh well windows is good for me for now :) |
| 15:08.02 | deanrantala | I need to know if the latest sarge netinst will let me use al least ext3 |
| 15:08.07 | jerome | caphuso: oki ... 'cause I have a problem with vsftpd which seems to be related with multiple ftp servers sessions running which is not the case |
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| 15:08.24 | r00tk1d | hi guys |
| 15:08.25 | bob2 | deanrantala: *woody* lets you use ext3 |
| 15:08.26 | ribnitz | deanrantala: it will |
| 15:08.32 | bob2 | deanrantala: if it didn't, you failed to read the install guide. |
| 15:08.33 | treestone | xerophyte: Your SessionTypes indicated that you should see that whole list in the kdm selection menu. |
| 15:08.34 | ufk | k |
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| 15:08.57 | deanrantala | I just ask because the Debian install CD's I got here at home.. the installer has NO option to use ext3 |
| 15:09.04 | gordonjcp | deanrantala: it does |
| 15:09.07 | g4lt | deanrantala use bf2.4 |
| 15:09.10 | deanrantala | k |
| 15:09.31 | gordonjcp | deanrantala: the phrase RTFM always sounds unnecessarily rude... |
| 15:09.32 | r00tk1d | how to install the binary php, not the apache module, becauz i will make scripts that work with php without any http requests, like shell oder perl scripts, just with php do you know help ? |
| 15:09.37 | bob2 | deanrantala: you didn't read the install guide. |
| 15:09.42 | xerophyte | treestone It didnt .. i am in the windows XP now .. let me get my work done then if i have time let see |
| 15:09.47 | caphuso | r00tk1d: php4-cgi |
| 15:09.49 | bob2 | r00tk1d: install php4-cgi |
| 15:09.54 | ufk | 21 19:15:47 shimzur postfix/smtp[16705]: 9071E478210: to=<shimzur@netvision.net.il>, relay=mx20.netvision.net.il[194.90.9.19], delay=1, status=sent (250 2.5.0 Ok.) |
| 15:09.54 | r00tk1d | ah thank you |
| 15:09.54 | bob2 | but that is sick |
| 15:10.01 | ufk | it seems ok like it did send the e-mail |
| 15:10.23 | bob2 | ufk: why is it re-writing ufk@localhost to shimzur@netvision.net.il? |
| 15:10.46 | \Igor\ | any latex2html gurus? how do I remov the <hr> at the bottom of the generated html file? |
| 15:10.47 | sgeigerbot | gordonjcp: RTFM brings to mind a certain four-letter word that many find equally unpalitable: R-E-A-D |
| 15:10.55 | ufk | bob2: oh.. i'm using balsa and i set that shimzur@netvision.net.il will be my e-mail address |
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| 15:11.08 | indes | I'm sam at indesnet dot com |
| 15:11.53 | bob2 | ufk: so run "echo test email | mail -stest ufk@localhsot" and see what happens. |
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| 15:12.58 | bob2 | asterix: apt-cache show sash |
| 15:13.12 | indes | anyone know if you can play Command and Conquer in FreeDos? |
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| 15:13.17 | r00tk1d | hm |
| 15:13.21 | ufk | imzur postfix/smtp[16766]: 8DC77478210: to=<ufk@shimzur.shimzur>, relay=none, delay=0, status=bounced (Name service error for name=shimzur.shimzur type=A: Host not found) |
| 15:13.33 | davro_ | usb mouse tail -f /var/log/messages : hub.c New USB device assigned address 00:1d.1-1 address 3 module loading but how do i configure this with X ? |
| 15:13.39 | deanrantala | ahh.. so I can just format and mount the ext3 part from a vt? |
| 15:13.45 | SlayerXP | hmm, can anyone suggest a utility to simulate mouse clicks in X. For example, if I click the left mouse button, I'd then like to have another left click sent, say, 2 seconds later. |
| 15:13.51 | bob2 | ufk: you made up a name for your machine and forgot to tell anyone |
| 15:13.57 | bob2 | ufk: add that to /etc/hosts |
| 15:14.04 | ufk | oh :) |
| 15:14.05 | r00tk1d | it says "Sorry, php4-cgi is already the newest version." that means i got it already, where can i find the cgi ?? (it was tha problem with php, i needet the cgi version) |
| 15:14.19 | bob2 | davro_: run "cat /dev/input/mice" and wiggle the mouse |
| 15:14.27 | bob2 | r00tk1d: /usr/bin/php4 |
| 15:14.41 | bob2 | r00tk1d: also, general scripting in php is rather amusing |
| 15:14.46 | r00tk1d | yea |
| 15:14.51 | r00tk1d | why |
| 15:14.58 | bob2 | because it's such a shit language. |
| 15:15.00 | r00tk1d | i love php, |
| 15:15.03 | asterix | bob2: I've done apt-get --purge remove sash, ant then "sashroot" account |
| 15:15.03 | bob2 | learn perl or python or shell. |
| 15:15.08 | sgeigerbot | bob2: why use sash when you have Knoppix? |
| 15:15.10 | fungku | its simple, php |
| 15:15.10 | bob2 | asterix: ok. |
| 15:15.11 | asterix | bob2: was removed |
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| 15:15.24 | r00tk1d | maybe perl would be better but i cant do it, cauz i just cant lol |
| 15:15.28 | davro_ | bob2 yup that returns some stuff |
| 15:15.30 | bob2 | ROFL |
| 15:15.43 | r00tk1d | but u can combine all languages |
| 15:15.44 | bob2 | davro_: tell X to use that device, all should be well. imps/2 is probably the device. |
| 15:15.47 | r00tk1d | that what i do |
| 15:15.57 | bob2 | you "combine all languages"? |
| 15:16.02 | r00tk1d | yea |
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| 15:16.06 | davro_ | will give that a try ! |
| 15:16.07 | sgeigerbot | bob2: That was a serious question. |
| 15:16.10 | mickeylosthisear | hello |
| 15:16.21 | bob2 | sgeigerbot: booting knoppix is more annoying and requires a cd drive. |
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| 15:16.38 | bob2 | sgeigerbot: but as a rescue disk, it seems to work pretty well. |
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| 15:16.52 | bob2 | sgeigerbot: except it does odd things to X on my monitor, but it's easy enough to disable. |
| 15:16.54 | mickeylosthisear | is there any cvs for kernels out there? |
| 15:16.57 | r00tk1d | i make calls from shell scripts to php scripts and other way.... right know, i try to make a notify bot, wich sends me a sms when an user of icq gets online ^^ thats nice i hope it will work as i think |
| 15:17.04 | bob2 | mickeylosthisear: no, linus use BK. |
| 15:17.14 | bob2 | mickeylosthisear: it's mirrored to cvs.kernel.org, if that's what you mean |
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| 15:17.49 | fungku | how can I install to of the same piece of hardware, like two indentical nics? |
| 15:17.52 | mickeylosthisear | actually, i dont know what you mean :) |
| 15:18.01 | mickeylosthisear | BK? whatzat ? |
| 15:18.04 | r00tk1d | another question, does anyone know how to script an icq bot ? |
| 15:18.15 | bob2 | mickeylosthisear: a lot of Free software projects use CVS to keep track of things, right? |
| 15:18.19 | david_ | anyone using a linux-compatible wireless router? Just curious if you ran into any problems. I'm thinking about buying one |
| 15:18.22 | bob2 | fungku: plug them in. |
| 15:18.25 | mickeylosthisear | can anybody help me? this is regarding RPM |
| 15:18.33 | mickeylosthisear | i did a rpm --rebuild |
| 15:18.33 | SlayerXP | r00tk1d: #kiddiots is 3 channels along on the left. |
| 15:18.40 | bob2 | mickeylosthisear: don't ever do that on Debian |
| 15:18.48 | bob2 | SlayerXP: did you notice the ISP? |
| 15:18.48 | sgeigerbot | fungku: Just add another stanze in /etc/network/interfaces If it's the same nic, it will use the same driver....so that's all you have to do. |
| 15:19.00 | r00tk1d | serious slayer? |
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| 15:19.01 | mickeylosthisear | and i have got this error: db4 error(16) from dbenv->remove: Device or resource busy |
| 15:19.09 | SlayerXP | bob2: I assumed aol :) |
| 15:19.13 | mickeylosthisear | i use redHat :) |
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| 15:19.14 | bob2 | mickeylosthisear: don't run that command on Debian. ever. |
| 15:19.19 | bob2 | mickeylosthisear: so #redhat |
| 15:19.33 | fungku | thanks |
| 15:19.35 | bob2 | SlayerXP: hah |
| 15:19.40 | mickeylosthisear | #RedHat is almost a ghoul's town |
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| 15:19.49 | mickeylosthisear | nobody's responding |
| 15:19.50 | david_ | linux-compatible wireless router... going once |
| 15:19.53 | SlayerXP | mickeylosthisear: it's not our fault you chose an unpopular distro |
| 15:21.13 | SlayerXP | mickeylosthisear: it's not our fault you chose an unpopular distro |
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| 15:21.13 | fungku | ouch |
| 15:21.13 | bob2 | david_: any should work |
| 15:21.13 | bob2 | david_: since it's a "router" and should just route packets for you |
| 15:21.13 | BriajWrk | i have the following problem booting sarge: KDGKBENT at index 128 in table 0: Invalid argument |
| 15:21.13 | david_ | bob2: that's what I'm hoping |
| 15:21.13 | bob2 | mickeylosthisear: dude, think about it. sometimes we might be able to help with generic linux questions, but you're using RPM. come on. |
| 15:21.13 | BriajWrk | does anyone know how can i resolve it? |
| 15:21.14 | sgeigerbot | mickeylosthisear: I have always found that online support for RedHat is not good. Debian is good for that reason...and many others. |
| 15:21.14 | mickeylosthisear | it's not my fault either that the only distro i have at hand is a RedHat |
| 15:21.14 | fungku | anyone know what driver to use with a DE 220 PCT nic? i used to know but i gotget |
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| 15:21.15 | bob2 | fungku: install "discover" |
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| 15:21.16 | fungku | *forget |
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| 15:21.16 | bob2 | BriajWrk: ask in #debian-boot |
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| 15:21.17 | fungku | bob2: right on |
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| 15:21.19 | BriajWrk | thank you bob2 |
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| 15:21.22 | bob2 | fungku: obviously only if you have a working nic atm ;) |
| 15:21.29 | bob2 | BriajWrk: and thank you for helping test d-i |
| 15:21.31 | mickeylosthisear | I am from Malaysia.. not many people here use OSS.. so i kinda lack of materials |
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| 15:21.56 | david_ | thanks bob2 for your input. I'm going to buy that wireless router today! |
| 15:22.06 | bob2 | david_: hah, have fun and keep the recepit ;) |
| 15:22.10 | bob2 | er, receipt |
| 15:22.13 | david_ | yup! |
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| 15:22.46 | bob2 | r00tk1d: there are a few ICQ libraries in Debian, but I don't think any of them have perl bindings. |
| 15:22.47 | xenohugs | :o :o :o |
| 15:22.47 | bob2 | r00tk1d: er, php. |
| 15:22.47 | chris`work | silas-_: ohio-state eh |
| 15:22.47 | bob2 | !seen blah |
| 15:22.48 | dpkg | blah <~asdf@196.38.142.50> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 2d 23h 45m 58s ago, saying: 'hello. is there anyway i can reset my isa isdn card without actually rebooting the pc?'. |
| 15:22.48 | bob2 | sene blah |
| 15:22.48 | asterix | How can i change tty font settings [this is second time, sorry] |
| 15:22.54 | xenohugs | omg lol wtf |
| 15:23.00 | fungku | ne |
| 15:23.04 | fungku | how'd i forget that |
| 15:23.08 | bob2 | hah |
| 15:23.11 | ufk | thanks it works :) |
| 15:23.32 | bob2 | SlayerXP: that seems pretty damn powerful |
| 15:23.46 | fungku | now, one last nice and ill be set |
| 15:24.16 | SlayerXP | bob2: it's incredible, makes my debian+amavis+sa+f-prot howto rather out of date |
| 15:24.21 | bob2 | mickeylosthisear: if you want to /msg me, my consulting rates are amazingly low |
| 15:25.06 | bob2 | SlayerXP: must be pretty heavyweight, though. |
| 15:25.40 | SlayerXP | bob2: not really. |
| 15:25.40 | bob2 | SlayerXP: what happens if scanning a message times out the SMTP session? or you just rate-limit things so that never happens? |
| 15:25.57 | SlayerXP | bob2: each in bound mail connection is a new thread anyway |
| 15:26.04 | bob2 | SlayerXP: hm |
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| 15:26.48 | zamk | hey |
| 15:27.37 | zamk | i use debian 3.0 r1 |
| 15:27.49 | zamk | when i write startx |
| 15:28.05 | fungku | bob2: you think debain would be any good for a router? |
| 15:28.05 | zamk | it gives an error like this |
| 15:28.12 | bob2 | fungku: yes |
| 15:28.26 | fungku | on a 400mb hd? |
| 15:28.31 | zamk | Fatal Server error: caught signal 11. server aborting |
| 15:28.36 | Jarjar26 | are there a way to change de label of hardrive withour re-format ? |
| 15:28.55 | bob2 | fungku: easy. the Debian base system is like 80MB |
| 15:29.03 | docelic | zamk: if you look better, this is not an actual error, this is pretty standard consequence of an error before it |
| 15:29.04 | fungku | bob2: right on |
| 15:29.18 | abrotman | zamk: did you check the /var/log/XFree86.0.log? |
| 15:29.30 | fungku | bob2: i got a full blown webserver with all the fixins running with 4 websites and its still under 500mb |
| 15:29.38 | fungku | stupid question on my part |
| 15:30.03 | docelic | fungku: we're used to those... |
| 15:30.04 | zamk | let me check the log |
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| 15:31.15 | fungku | and that last nic was setup all along |
| 15:31.16 | fungku | shit |
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| 15:34.02 | fungku | anyone know a good iptables referance? |
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| 15:34.11 | De_Mon | ok back |
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| 15:34.30 | bob2 | fungku: www.netfilter.org. I quite like shorewall. |
| 15:35.00 | kzar | Hi, im trying to get sed to filter my daily dilbert to get rid of all the adverts and junk ;) Ive got it working, but i was wondering, is there a way to replace everything between two things, instead of just deleting everything inbetween two thing? |
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| 15:35.24 | fungku | bob2: thanks |
| 15:35.25 | bob2 | of course |
| 15:35.34 | bob2 | s/FO/BAR/ replace FO with BAR |
| 15:35.41 | bob2 | but have you looked at junkbuster? |
| 15:35.49 | kzar | bob2: junkbuster? |
| 15:35.52 | bob2 | or even just wget'ing the .gif itself |
| 15:35.56 | docelic | kzar: sure s/(before)...(after)/\1new content\2/ |
| 15:36.00 | bob2 | kzar: ad-blocking proxy |
| 15:36.05 | zyro | kzar: spamassassin is great |
| 15:36.20 | kzar | bob2: im already using spamassassin , and clamav, this is just for the dilbert ads |
| 15:36.30 | kzar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:36.44 | r00tk1d | does anyone know: when i exec the cgi script with interpreter php4, php will send 2 headers, the xpowered by php and the content type, how can i avoid this ?? |
| 15:36.48 | elops | is there another way i can edit my linux files? becouse i am having problem opeining Text Editor |
| 15:36.51 | kzar | thats my code to remoev some of the ads in it, but how would i put stuff there instead of just deleting? |
| 15:36.52 | ufk | is there a way to set a default e-mail addresss in mutt? |
| 15:36.57 | kzar | elops: use nano |
| 15:36.59 | zyro | elops: emacs |
| 15:37.03 | kzar | elops: its what i use and its easy |
| 15:37.25 | g4lt | elops use vi |
| 15:37.26 | Biff | hmm, if i want to create a new chain that works like the prerouting chain in the nat table, what do i have to do? |
| 15:37.30 | bob2 | ufk: set from=whatever@blah.com |
| 15:37.41 | ufk | how do i set it?! |
| 15:37.48 | De_Mon | when i run 'host localhost' what should get returned? 127.0.0.1 right? |
| 15:37.55 | bob2 | ufk: set from=whatever@blah.com |
| 15:38.02 | bob2 | ufk: put that line in ~/.muttrc |
| 15:38.05 | ufk | ah :) |
| 15:38.06 | ppmbx | elops, vim |
| 15:38.07 | bob2 | De_Mon: yes |
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| 15:38.18 | bob2 | rob@ooder> host localhost ~/{archives}/revision-libraries |
| 15:38.18 | bob2 | localhost has address 127.0.0.1 |
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| 15:38.19 | zyro | De_Mon: i get localhost.eike.local does not exist, try again |
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| 15:38.30 | g4lt | ppmbx bah! wuss |
| 15:38.40 | r00tk1d | does anyone know: when i exec the cgi script with interpreter php4, php will send 2 headers, the xpowered by php and the content type, how can i avoid this ?? |
| 15:38.54 | ppmbx | g4lt, :P if vi had syntax highlighting, i would use it |
| 15:39.00 | De_Mon | alright, now, when i run 'host localhost' its trying to resolve localhost.my.subdomain.com |
| 15:39.02 | bob2 | r00tk1d: use a real scripting language |
| 15:39.07 | Zap-W | why isn't links compiled vs SSL/TSL |
| 15:39.10 | bob2 | r00tk1d: or read the php4 manpage |
| 15:39.18 | r00tk1d | ah yea... |
| 15:39.25 | bob2 | rob@ooder> ldd /usr/bin/links | grep tls ~/{archives}/revision-libraries |
| 15:39.25 | bob2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:39.28 | bob2 | Zap-W: it is |
| 15:39.34 | bob2 | r00tk1d: or #php |
| 15:39.38 | r00tk1d | ok |
| 15:39.40 | r00tk1d | thanks |
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| 15:39.47 | bob2 | De_Mon: put your /etc/hosts in #flood |
| 15:39.51 | fungku | bob2: whats a good place to start with a firewall? |
| 15:39.54 | De_Mon | should i be adding an A record for localhost pointed at that directory? |
| 15:40.04 | bob2 | De_Mon: in /etc/hosts? |
| 15:40.19 | indes | fungku: iptables? |
| 15:40.20 | poli | r00tk1d: php via cgi? seems weird... |
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| 15:40.31 | bob2 | fungku: the iptables howto. how deep do you want to get into understanding iptables compared to just getting a firewall to work. |
| 15:40.32 | indes | r00tk1d: php4-cgi |
| 15:40.40 | bob2 | poli: no, he's using it as a system scripting language. |
| 15:41.14 | fungku | bob2: i thought iptables was just for NAT and routing and stuff, I thought a firewall would be something different |
| 15:41.17 | r00tk1d | i know |
| 15:41.19 | r00tk1d | i use it |
| 15:41.20 | De_Mon | bob2 no in /var/cache/bind/nexus.delushonal.net |
| 15:41.26 | jerome | graaaaah! Could someone gimme a hand with vsftpd ? I installed it the apt-get way, got no debconf dialogs. I uncommented the line in /etc/inetd.conf related to this ftp server and now I want to ftp localhost I have this strange reply : 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket. I found no answer on google and it drives me mad :/ |
| 15:41.28 | fungku | i guess i got some reading ahead of me |
| 15:41.47 | bob2 | fungku: iptables is part of netfilter, which 2.4 and 2.6's general "fucking with packets" interface. nat, masq, firewalling all comes under that. |
| 15:41.54 | poli | fungku: Firewall suppliers want you to think that way. |
| 15:41.56 | bob2 | De_Mon: uh, is this Debian? |
| 15:42.01 | indes | fungku: I found it fairly easy to understand from man iptables |
| 15:42.05 | De_Mon | bob2 it sure is |
| 15:42.10 | Zap-W | bob2: in sarge? it isn't , you mean elinks does? |
| 15:42.14 | bob2 | jerome: why do you want to run out of inetd? |
| 15:42.19 | De_Mon | running a local named server... |
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| 15:42.45 | ufk | bob2: i created ~/.muttrc and added that line, when i run mutt and send mail it doesn't work |
| 15:42.53 | bob2 | De_Mon: localhost should be defined in /etc/hosts, and bind9 comes with a default zonefile for it too |
| 15:43.19 | bob2 | Zap-W: uh, yeah, I guess. |
| 15:43.26 | bob2 | Zap-W: sure you didn't mean to install links-ssl? |
| 15:43.28 | De_Mon | i havent touched the preinstalled bine zones |
| 15:43.38 | bob2 | De_Mon: is localhost in /etc/hosts? |
| 15:43.45 | elops | what are the commands to open file in vi/emacs? |
| 15:43.50 | jerome | bob2: to be able to filter the IP that could reach it |
| 15:44.06 | bob2 | jerome: so wtf are you wasting time with inetd? |
| 15:44.07 | jerome | bob2: I want it to be run in inetd ... not out |
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| 15:44.16 | bob2 | elops: C-x f /patch/to/file |
| 15:44.19 | bob2 | elops: in emacs |
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| 15:44.29 | jerome | bob2: 'cause tcp wrappers are nice aren't they ? |
| 15:44.32 | bob2 | ufk: "doesn't work"? |
| 15:44.41 | bob2 | jerome: doesn't vsftpd support tcpwrappers itself? |
| 15:44.45 | poli | elops: oops... emacs: run it and go with a crtl-h t |
| 15:44.45 | ufk | bob2: it doesn't use the e-mail address on my .muttrc file |
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| 15:44.48 | jerome | bob2: ,nope |
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| 15:44.57 | jerome | bob2: designed to work in inetd |
| 15:45.00 | jerome | or xinetd |
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| 15:45.14 | jerome | tho debian has start-stop-daemons |
| 15:45.17 | bob2 | jerome: then file a wishlist bug on it. or just use iptables. |
| 15:45.25 | jerome | well ... |
| 15:45.31 | bob2 | jerome: start-stop-daemon has nothing to do with running vsftp in inetd |
| 15:45.46 | jerome | bob2: that's why I said tho |
| 15:45.59 | jerome | bob2: that's the alternative from debian |
| 15:46.03 | jerome | no choice :/ |
| 15:46.07 | bob2 | huh? |
| 15:46.16 | bob2 | do you know what start-stop-daemon does? |
| 15:46.30 | kzar | docelic: ive just tried that, "sed -e '/<!-- AD TABLE BEGIN -->/,/<!-- DATE TABLE BEGIN -->/\1new content\2/'" but it isnt working, have i done somthing ovbiously dumb? |
| 15:46.32 | bob2 | or is your complain still "debian doesn't preconfigure vsftp to run out of inetd"? |
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| 15:46.39 | Zap-W | anyone know of a GFX mode for elinks? |
| 15:46.47 | bob2 | kzar: add an "s" before the first / of the second block |
| 15:46.55 | bob2 | kzar: as I said earlier |
| 15:47.05 | bob2 | kzar: oh, wait, nevermind |
| 15:47.16 | kzar | bob2: rite |
| 15:47.36 | bob2 | Zap-W: do ANY of the links in Debian do that FB hack? |
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| 15:48.15 | bob2 | kzar: sed doesn't really support what you're trying to do here |
| 15:48.20 | bob2 | not easily, anyway |
| 15:48.37 | De_Mon | bob2 it was pasted in flood, yeah localhost 127.0.0.1 |
| 15:48.44 | De_Mon | but! |
| 15:48.51 | De_Mon | localhost.nexus.delushonal.net does not exist (Authoritative answer) |
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| 15:48.59 | De_Mon | thats what 'host localhost' returns |
| 15:49.11 | kzar | bob2: o rite, thats a shame :( but i suppose leaving the dilbert logo graphic isnt that important :p |
| 15:49.39 | indes | Anyone know where I can get a dvorak keyboard in Central ontario canada? |
| 15:49.47 | bob2 | De_Mon: in /etc/nsswitch.conf is files in front of dns for hosts? |
| 15:49.47 | Zap-W | bob2: i don't know what you are talking about , i remember compiling links 2.x with svga gfx mode support |
| 15:50.02 | bob2 | Zap-W: exactly, so it's not supported in Debian at all, duh. |
| 15:50.08 | poli | indes: Gosh! I always wondered where I could find one... I have never seem a dvorak! |
| 15:50.08 | caphuso | Zap-W: what the hell is a "gfx mode"? |
| 15:50.10 | bob2 | Zap-W: so get links2 and build it with ssl support |
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| 15:50.18 | abrotman | indes: ebay? |
| 15:50.49 | De_Mon | hosts: files dns |
| 15:50.50 | indes | poli: http://voteview.uh.edu/images/dvorak.gif (try masking tape and kbdconfig) |
| 15:50.51 | De_Mon | sure is |
| 15:50.59 | indes | abrotman: maybe... but keyboards on ebay? |
| 15:51.04 | Zap-W | caphuso : you really don't know? |
| 15:51.08 | abrotman | indes: my brother spraypainted his for dvorak :) |
| 15:51.11 | bob2 | indes: you can usually remove all the keys off your current one and re-arrange them |
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| 15:51.34 | bob2 | De_Mon: how about "host localhost." with thwe trailing . |
| 15:51.39 | abrotman | indes: yeah .. if you get a clicky IBM . you can remove keys |
| 15:51.41 | caphuso | Zap-W: no, and neither does any of the bots in here not dict.org |
| 15:51.41 | indes | lol |
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| 15:51.46 | indes | such good ideas!!! |
| 15:51.48 | caphuso | s/not/nor/ |
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| 15:51.59 | poli | indes: file not found. :( |
| 15:52.20 | CtrlAltDel | how do i shut down debian from XwinddowS? i can't find an option anywhere :S :( |
| 15:52.31 | zamk | xterm: fatal error 32 (broken pipe) or KillClient on x server ":0.0" |
| 15:52.37 | zamk | i can't open kde |
| 15:52.41 | ArtiX | is there a good mathematic program for linux? something like maple. not to print formulas like LaTeX but to calculate |
| 15:52.42 | abrotman | CtrlAltDel: gdm |
| 15:52.48 | zamk | that's the error msg |
| 15:52.57 | indes | poli: I'm looking at it |
| 15:53.06 | CtrlAltDel | gdm? |
| 15:53.11 | bob2 | ArtiX: octave is kinda like matlab |
| 15:53.11 | poli | indes: sorry, I got it now. |
| 15:53.14 | indes | http://x-entertainment/articles/0744/ <- THAT LOOKS GOOD |
| 15:53.15 | albino | GNOME display manager |
| 15:53.24 | bob2 | ArtiX: scilab is supposed to be a bit like mplae. or emacs calc. |
| 15:53.32 | bob2 | ArtiX: you can buy maple for linux, too |
| 15:53.41 | ArtiX | hm i'll have a look at them, thanks |
| 15:53.44 | CtrlAltDel | yeah, i'm on that, what do i do to shut it down? |
| 15:53.47 | poli | indes: is it easy to learn to type? |
| 15:53.49 | g4lt | ArtiX uhm they ported maple to linux.... |
| 15:53.49 | De_Mon | bob2 localhost. returns 127.0.0.1 as it should |
| 15:53.52 | abrotman | CtrlAltDel: you have to unsecure the system menu |
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| 15:54.01 | Alakazam | Anyone webhost? |
| 15:54.03 | CtrlAltDel | how do i do that? |
| 15:54.13 | g4lt | or to be more precise, they ported maple for linux to windows |
| 15:54.16 | indes | poli: I was goin faster than qwerty |
| 15:54.18 | poli | ArtiX: scilab, octave are good choices... |
| 15:54.24 | indes | and I didn't really know the layout that well |
| 15:54.38 | ArtiX | is one of them easier to use? |
| 15:55.04 | ArtiX | currently downloading octave |
| 15:55.05 | poli | ArtiX: Well, both are VERY close to Matlab in the essence. |
| 15:55.20 | caphuso | Zap-W: oh, i found it on acronymfinder.com... GFX Global Effects or GFX Graphic Effect(s) |
| 15:55.22 | poli | ArtiX: Small command changes, at least by the last time I used them. |
| 15:55.27 | abrotman | CtrlAltDel: there are two options you have to add .. one is commented out .. the other not listed at all |
| 15:55.40 | abrotman | CtrlAltDel: and im not at home to tell you what it is :( |
| 15:55.43 | ufk | any ideas why when i add "set from=myemail@com" to my ~/.muttrc it doesn't use that e-mail address? |
| 15:55.44 | Alakazam | Or know anything about it |
| 15:55.46 | poli | ArtiX: Depending on what you want, there is also Gnu R. |
| 15:55.47 | Alakazam | please |
| 15:55.52 | caphuso | Zap-W: mind to explain what effects you are looking for? |
| 15:56.11 | bob2 | ufk: send me an email |
| 15:56.15 | bob2 | ufk: bob2 at ertius.org |
| 15:56.23 | caphuso | damn, gtg |
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| 15:56.28 | bob2 | Alakazam: are you takign a poll? |
| 15:56.33 | ufk | bob2: sent |
| 15:56.35 | ArtiX | can they generate LaTeX code? |
| 15:56.35 | bob2 | caphuso: live on to anti-troll another day! |
| 15:56.36 | CtrlAltDel | damn |
| 15:56.42 | bob2 | ArtiX: don't think so. |
| 15:56.49 | bob2 | ArtiX: texmacs can generate latex. or lyx |
| 15:56.52 | CtrlAltDel | so i cna't shut the damn thing down without just pulling the plug? |
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| 15:56.59 | ArtiX | hm maple can |
| 15:57.01 | De_Mon | could postfix be screwing with something? the seem unrelated but one can never tell |
| 15:57.11 | abrotman | CtrlAltDel: yes .. you can .. |
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| 15:57.39 | CtrlAltDel | so what do i do? :S |
| 15:57.41 | Zap-W | dont you just hate when the water from the toilet sit splashes to your ass when the shit drops |
| 15:57.44 | bob2 | De_Mon: doubt it. try adding your hostname just after localhost in /etc/hosts |
| 15:57.53 | CtrlAltDel | it says i can't log into the admin account |
| 15:58.28 | skei | is it possible to change the ownership of a symbolic link? |
| 15:58.33 | poli | ArtiX: Maple, as far as I have used it, is built especially for symbolic math... Bot scilab and octave are more on the numberic calculations business, just like Matlab... |
| 15:59.11 | bob2 | ufk: set use_from=yes |
| 15:59.15 | bob2 | ufk: try again |
| 15:59.33 | ufk | k |
| 15:59.39 | g4lt | ArtiX then use Maple FFS |
| 15:59.40 | poli | ArtiX: Take a look at src2tex. It cites octave. |
| 15:59.41 | abrotman | CtrlAltDel: as root |
| 15:59.48 | skei | is it possible to change the ownership of a symbolic link? |
| 15:59.57 | abrotman | CtrlAltDel: find the line that says SystemMenu=false .. change it to true |
| 16:00.01 | De_Mon | bob2 heh.. no joy still says the address doesnt exist |
| 16:00.14 | ufk | it works no! |
| 16:00.16 | skei | abrotman: thats for me? |
| 16:00.22 | ufk | noaw |
| 16:00.24 | ufk | now :) |
| 16:00.32 | bob2 | skei: try it |
| 16:00.39 | ufk | bob2: only problem, i get Debian user <my-email>. how can i change the debian user? |
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| 16:00.47 | zamk | how can i configure kde by using dpkg? |
| 16:00.49 | bob2 | ufk: run "chfn" |
| 16:00.54 | CtrlAltDel | it won't let me log into root |
| 16:00.57 | bob2 | ufk: or set realname="Rob Weir" |
| 16:00.59 | abrotman | skei: no .. it was for CtrlAltDel |
| 16:01.00 | Zap-W | is there alot of difference between libc5 and libc6 |
| 16:01.05 | bob2 | ufk: ideally with your name :) |
| 16:01.07 | ufk | oh :) great thanks alot :) |
| 16:01.07 | bob2 | Zap-W: yes. |
| 16:01.09 | abrotman | CtrlAltDel: do you know roots passwd? |
| 16:01.11 | De_Mon | bob2 seems like the hosts file is being red out of order, other addresses that are in there do resolve correctly |
| 16:01.13 | bob2 | Zap-W: binary incompatibility, is one. |
| 16:01.15 | skei | is it possible to change the ownership of a symbolic link please |
| 16:01.18 | CtrlAltDel | yes |
| 16:01.21 | bob2 | 03:00:32 bob2 | skei: try it |
| 16:01.26 | bob2 | skei: don't be so fucking lazy |
| 16:01.26 | zamk | how can i configure kde by using dpkg? |
| 16:01.38 | bob2 | zamk: you don't. |
| 16:01.47 | abrotman | CtrlAltDel: switch to console .. login as root .. change the gdm.conf with that change |
| 16:01.56 | ufk | great :) thanks again |
| 16:01.58 | skei | bob2, guide me to a man |
| 16:01.58 | CtrlAltDel | ok |
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| 16:02.07 | bob2 | De_Mon: try asking on debian-user (/msg dpkg d-u), it sounds rather familiar but I can't think of a solution :/ |
| 16:02.11 | De_Mon | well dang. i added 192.168.2.55 as testing.com, 'host 192.168.2.55' returns testing.com but 'host testing.com' returns its reall address |
| 16:02.12 | Zap-W | bob2: that i figured , like years when the libc5 to libc6 transition was made , lots of broken binaries |
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| 16:02.20 | bob2 | Zap-W: yes |
| 16:02.21 | Zap-W | bob2: in perfomance .... |
| 16:02.30 | bob2 | Zap-W: libc6 is bigger and slower |
| 16:02.31 | abrotman | CtrlAltDel: your gdm is probably configured to not let root login |
| 16:02.32 | Zap-W | never mind silly |
| 16:02.35 | De_Mon | bob2 suggestins as to what I should search google for? |
| 16:02.38 | Zap-W | bob2: really |
| 16:02.49 | bob2 | skei: make a symlink. chown it. what happens? |
| 16:03.00 | bob2 | De_Mon: "localhost dns resolution problem" |
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| 16:03.07 | fungku | how can i make it so I only have like 1 tty open er running er avaliable |
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| 16:03.27 | poli | fungku: /etc/inittab |
| 16:03.34 | poli | fungku: man inittab |
| 16:03.37 | ScatterBrain | Anyone know how to add "Enligtenment" to the list of sessions in GDM? |
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| 16:05.32 | hingwah | ScatterBrain: create an entry in /etc/gdm/Sessions |
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| 16:05.59 | poli | ScatterBrain: Go to /etc/gdm and take a look at the config files... |
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| 16:06.03 | fungku | is there any real point to doing thaT? |
| 16:06.17 | bob2 | fungku: save a tiny amount of memory |
| 16:06.19 | poli | fungku: that what? |
| 16:06.50 | skei | i'm trying to figure out why a static route i've set isn't working.. anyone could help? |
| 16:07.06 | joro | I'm trying to install debianutils_1.16.2woody1 but it conflicts with coreutils (/bin/readlink) |
| 16:07.09 | joro | what can I do? |
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| 16:07.38 | bob2 | joro: pick a distro and stick with it |
| 16:07.45 | poli | skei: Only tcpdump and ethereal can be of real help in that case, I'm afraid. |
| 16:07.57 | bob2 | skei: paste the output of "ip route" into ##flood |
| 16:08.03 | joro | bob2: it's woody with security updates |
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| 16:08.15 | bob2 | joro: that's all? |
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| 16:08.46 | ufk | can anyone recommand me of a good e-mail client (besides evolution)? i want something lite. i get alot of e-mail every day and i wanna seperate them to different catagories easily |
| 16:08.48 | joro | bob2, I think so. Let me see. |
| 16:08.58 | bob2 | ufk: mutt! |
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| 16:09.11 | bob2 | anyone serious about their mail uses mutt or gnus |
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| 16:09.28 | g4lt | bob2 really? |
| 16:09.35 | emitchlpd | how to I start troubleshooting the "no screens found" error when trying to start X. Everything looks ok in XF86Config-4 |
| 16:09.48 | bob2 | emitchlpd: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, toggle the framebuffer option |
| 16:09.51 | CowboyNeal | I've had a powerbook for almost a year with Mail.app on it and still use mutt |
| 16:09.53 | poli | ufk: Well, by far evolution's VFolder is the best tool I know for that. |
| 16:09.54 | bob2 | g4lt: absolutely! |
| 16:10.06 | CowboyNeal | it's the only client I've found that can deal with my daily deluge of mail :) |
| 16:10.10 | g4lt | bob2 funny, you completely missed the reallly serious ones that use elm or pine |
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| 16:10.16 | bob2 | CowboyNeal: you run Mac OS X? |
| 16:10.19 | poli | emitchlpd: X -probeonly. Take note why X is rejecting your displays. Usually has to do with vsync or hsync. |
| 16:10.22 | CowboyNeal | I run everything |
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| 16:10.24 | emitchlpd | bob2: I don't have framebuffer support in my kernel, are you assuming that it's toggled on in XF86Config? |
| 16:10.24 | bob2 | g4lt: I mock them. |
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| 16:10.37 | BUBBAdK | does any1 know which printerdriver i should use for the canon i850 |
| 16:10.45 | bob2 | emitchlpd: guessing, yes, since that's the problem 75% of the time |
| 16:10.58 | bob2 | BUBBAdK: it's not in the list in cups web thingy? |
| 16:11.13 | CowboyNeal | this machine is linux 2.6.1, but I have a mac, 2 windows machines, a couple sparcs, a fbsd box, a little bit of everything |
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| 16:11.35 | CowboyNeal | finally got rid of my vaxen, heh |
| 16:11.43 | skei | bob2: i will paste it, ty |
| 16:11.49 | bob2 | hah, you could have helpe the Debian/Vax port. |
| 16:11.51 | poli | CowboyNeal: Did you Debian your VAX? ;) |
| 16:11.59 | CowboyNeal | heh, nope |
| 16:12.09 | BUBBAdK | well it is but not the driver it finds the name but i need to know the right cubs driver |
| 16:12.09 | CowboyNeal | one of my sparcs was debian for many years |
| 16:12.13 | bztunk | CowboyNeal: are you the real CowboyNeal ? |
| 16:12.24 | skei | bob2: done |
| 16:12.25 | CowboyNeal | Neal Cassady is the real CowboyNeal, and he's dead |
| 16:12.28 | Fubarovic | i'd like to install Debian on an MD-RAID 0 array, is this possible? (if so, is it easy? :)) |
| 16:12.32 | chris`work | If he was the fake CowboyNeal do you think he would tell the truth? |
| 16:12.33 | bob2 | BUBBAdK: you select the name of the printer from the list. |
| 16:12.34 | CowboyNeal | I'm just the schmuck who works at a certain weblog |
| 16:12.54 | bob2 | Fubarovic: software raid? not easy, google for "debian netinst md" |
| 16:13.05 | Fubarovic | i'm using ataraid atm |
| 16:13.08 | bob2 | CowboyNeal: are you paid by osdn or blockstackers? |
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| 16:13.16 | Fubarovic | but apparently tht's not supported anymore in 2.6.x |
| 16:13.19 | BUBBAdK | yep but it's not there i know a different cubs driver works...just don't know which 1 |
| 16:13.21 | bob2 | CowboyNeal: just out of curiosity :) |
| 16:13.22 | Fubarovic | so i want to convert / upgrade |
| 16:13.24 | CowboyNeal | VA Software, parent company of OSDN |
| 16:13.28 | skei | bob2: for the subnet 23 i'm using a multihomed pc to get it there... all the others computers can talk via the subnet |
| 16:13.31 | bob2 | BUBBAdK: so look on www.lixnuprinting.org |
| 16:13.39 | CowboyNeal | I was a blockstackers employee until the site got sold |
| 16:13.42 | skei | I mean by via between |
| 16:13.48 | bob2 | Fubarovic: you'll need ot copy everything off to go to md raid, afaik. |
| 16:13.54 | skei | bob2: one server, two nics |
| 16:14.36 | jerome | bob2: oh, just in case you'd be ask by someone else, remember there is a "listen=YES" line in /etc/vsftpd.conf to allow vsftpd to run as a stand alone server. It has to be commented out for inetd ... |
| 16:14.36 | cjs | i previously (some time ago) used a debian script to setup ipforwarding/masquerading to route internet to another box here.. i've thrown in another card and am attemping to add another machine.. but i can't remember where i set up the forwarding, any suggestions? |
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| 16:14.36 | bob2 | skei: thats your entire routing table? |
| 16:14.36 | Zap-W | what should /etc/X11/X be pointing to? |
| 16:14.36 | bob2 | jerome: I'll remember that, thanks. |
| 16:14.37 | skei | bob2: router to WAN is on the 22 subnet, so all 22 clients have internet |
| 16:14.37 | Fubarovic | bob2, i don't really mind that tho |
| 16:14.37 | Fubarovic | i want to install debian from scratch, as well as the md-raid |
| 16:14.50 | Fubarovic | however, i'd like to know if i can install debian directly onto the md-raid |
| 16:14.52 | bob2 | apt, vsftpd inetd is there is a "listen=YES" line in /etc/vsftpd.conf to allow vsftpd to run as a stand alone server. It has to be commented out for vsftpd in inetd to work. |
| 16:14.54 | | okay, bob2 |
| 16:14.54 | CowboyNeal | is there any kind of document out there that details migrating to linux 2.6 on debian unstable? I'm on the new kernel now, but some stuff doesn't work and the new modutils are killing up my logs with errors. |
| 16:15.04 | treestone | Zap-W: Probably /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 |
| 16:15.08 | CowboyNeal | filling up my logs too, heh |
| 16:15.09 | bob2 | CowboyNeal: ev-something? |
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| 16:15.19 | skei | bob2: any idea? |
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| 16:15.24 | bob2 | Fubarovic: google as I said earlier. |
| 16:15.28 | Fubarovic | k |
| 16:15.40 | bob2 | skei: dunno, sorry. try #lartc on irc.oftc.net |
| 16:15.53 | joro | bob2, I think it is stable only |
| 16:15.55 | emitchlpd | bob2: there was nothing about framebuffer |
| 16:16.11 | bob2 | joro: don't think, check. |
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| 16:16.15 | z3r0x | hi |
| 16:16.17 | bob2 | emitchlpd: /msg dpkg setup x |
| 16:16.20 | joro | bob2, how? |
| 16:16.28 | bob2 | joro: what's in your suorces.list? |
| 16:16.32 | BUBBAdK | found out : bj7100 |
| 16:16.43 | joro | stable and security |
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| 16:16.55 | treestone | CowboyNeal: I did that migration some days ago on a box, I couldn't really find any migration-HOWTO on that, except that you need module-init-tools and if you use lvm you have to go lvm2. What kind of problems do you have? |
| 16:16.57 | bob2 | CowboyNeal: if so, it's a known bug. modconf in sid should finally work with 2.6 kernels. the alsa init stuff still doesn't. |
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| 16:17.12 | bob2 | joro: this is while dist-upgrading? |
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| 16:17.23 | fungku | where can I find the stuff for my hardware setup? like where is says the drivers and stuff |
| 16:17.23 | joro | only upgrade |
| 16:17.24 | CowboyNeal | I got alsa working by just loading the proper mods at boot |
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| 16:17.31 | kzar | is newline /n or \n? |
| 16:17.37 | avatar | \n |
| 16:17.39 | joro | kzar \n |
| 16:17.40 | kzar | tar |
| 16:17.45 | CowboyNeal | but my serial ports are broke, and it keeps trying to load ipv6 stuff, which I never compiled, nor do I want |
| 16:17.59 | milez | pardon me. |
| 16:18.19 | bob2 | fungku: "dmesg" shows what the kernel has said lately, which will mention most if nto all detected and used hardware. |
| 16:18.20 | CowboyNeal | the new modutils work mostly, like usb works |
| 16:18.50 | treestone | CowboyNeal: I didn't see anything like that. However, there's one gotcha: /etc/modprobe.d replaces the former /etc/modutils (that possibly came with the new modutils package, I'm not sure) |
| 16:18.53 | CowboyNeal | I get all kinds of "request_module: failed /sbin/modprobe -- net-pf-10. error = 256" in dmesg though |
| 16:19.05 | joro | is kernel 2.4.23 in stable? |
| 16:19.08 | bob2 | joro: no |
| 16:19.18 | fungku | bob2: I was looking for a configuration file of some sort, so i can add a line for another isa network card |
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| 16:19.32 | joro | well I have this kernel |
| 16:19.33 | CowboyNeal | in modprobe.d's arch dir, I put "alias net-pf-10 off", but it doesn't seem to help |
| 16:19.40 | treestone | CowboyNeal: Hm, ok, I did see some similar messages in dmesg which I couldn't figure out either, everything works though. |
| 16:19.48 | ernesto | how do i change my keyboard to uk? |
| 16:19.50 | frenkyo__ | I've a problem with sendmail and the auth on smtp.mail.yahoo.it anyone can help me :? |
| 16:19.54 | bob2 | joro: then someone has built it. |
| 16:19.55 | ernesto | its set to a us layout |
| 16:20.02 | bob2 | frenkyo__: don't use sendmail |
| 16:20.28 | frenkyo__ | bob2 : why :? |
| 16:20.35 | joro | bob2, I think it is installed from the archives - sarge or sid |
| 16:20.40 | CowboyNeal | I might just limp along on this kernel until I figure it out though, since most stuff works |
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| 16:20.53 | bob2 | joro: well, there you go then. dpkg --force-overwrite -i one of them |
| 16:21.19 | bob2 | frenkyo__: do you know how to edit the sendmail config file? |
| 16:21.28 | frenkyo__ | yes |
| 16:21.33 | frenkyo__ | I've yet edited it |
| 16:21.46 | frenkyo__ | the problem is that sendamil doesn't start the auth |
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| 16:22.05 | frenkyo__ | 250 8BITMIME |
| 16:22.07 | frenkyo__ | >>> MAIL From:<frenkyo2002@yahoo.it> |
| 16:22.07 | frenkyo__ | 530 authentication required - for help go to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/pop/pop-11.html |
| 16:22.10 | fungku | nvm, i think i found it |
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| 16:22.13 | bob2 | #sendmail then, I guess |
| 16:22.14 | Michael_15 | hi what modconf module shouldI use for a macronix mx987x5 nic? |
| 16:22.14 | frenkyo__ | it start just with the Mail from |
| 16:22.18 | frenkyo__ | and not make the auth |
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| 16:22.29 | bob2 | why are you using sendmail at all? |
| 16:22.33 | LoRez | ~tell frenkyo__ about enter |
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| 16:23.27 | joro | bob2, that worked. thanks |
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| 16:24.37 | frenkyo__ | bob2 masochism :\ |
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| 16:24.38 | CowboyNeal | aha, I found the problem with my serial ports. I'm a dumbass, and forgot to compile any sort of support for them |
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| 16:24.45 | CowboyNeal | hah |
| 16:24.47 | JaKy^ | hi, one question, patch-2.6.1 are made for use with kernel 2.6.0 or 2.6.1 ? tnx |
| 16:25.09 | bob2 | JaKy^: 2.6.0 |
| 16:25.19 | Malkie^ | JaKy^: afaik, patch-2.6.1 is made to be used on kernel 2.6.0, so it will become 2.6.1 |
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| 16:25.36 | JaKy^ | so, if i compile 2.6.1 source no need this patch ? right ? |
| 16:25.46 | JaKy^ | many tnx |
| 16:25.52 | treestone | JaKy^: RIght. |
| 16:26.32 | Malkie^ | JaKy^: Right |
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| 16:27.23 | Fubarovic | bob2, i got a stupid question: i've got a RAID-0 array defined in my HPT370 controller, can I use MD-raid? |
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| 16:27.48 | Fubarovic | or do i have to remove the raid-0 array and have "md" make the raid array? |
| 16:27.48 | cjs | no one knows the debian script to setup ipforwarding/masq? |
| 16:28.26 | bob2 | your question makes no sense |
| 16:28.31 | Fubarovic | lol |
| 16:28.32 | bob2 | do you mean the "ipmasq" package? |
| 16:28.38 | CowboyNeal | cjs: I just added a line to bootmisc.sh that called another script I wrote myself, which isn't the "proper" way but it's fast and easy, for me |
| 16:28.41 | Fubarovic | ow cool, not mine :) |
| 16:28.51 | cjs | bob2: perhaps.. i set it up via the ipmasq package before |
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| 16:28.59 | zimba | hi all ! |
| 16:29.07 | bob2 | Fubarovic: copy all the data off it, tell the kernel to consider it a simple ide controller, create your md0 volume on top of that |
| 16:29.19 | cjs | and that is how it is setup now.. i just need to add another rule.. i installed another nic which sits at 192.168.1.3.. and i need it to serve as the gateway for another machine |
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| 16:30.07 | cjs | bob2: just not sure where to setup the second set of rules |
| 16:30.53 | De_Mon | Awwww! COMON |
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| 16:31.01 | zimba | my X is dead :/ |
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| 16:31.13 | Rawplayer | :( |
| 16:31.16 | Michael_15 | i found it, it was just tulip. Thanks anyway everyone :) |
| 16:31.21 | De_Mon | this is absurd. trying to get dictd working is way harder than it should be! |
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| 16:32.11 | zimba | "vmware_drv.o is unresolved", and "Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M" |
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| 16:32.50 | wilm | trying to install `stunnel 4.04': running `configure' gives `Couldn't find your SSL library installation dir'. Supplying ` --with-ssl=/usr/lib/ssl' doesn't solve it |
| 16:33.03 | wilm | what am i doing wrong? |
| 16:33.03 | De_Mon | host localhost is resolving correctly, though i sortof cheated, adding it to the bind/zone.record and reloading, but dictd still says access denied (i dont think it was having trouble connecting just authenticating in the first place) |
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| 16:33.25 | bob2 | wilm: use stunnel from Debian |
| 16:33.35 | wilm | bob2: i tried, but it's version 3.xx |
| 16:33.40 | wilm | i need versino 4 |
| 16:33.44 | bob2 | why? |
| 16:33.45 | De_Mon | i should just try setting it up on another box and fscking one |
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| 16:33.49 | Rawplayer | wilm: apt-get.org |
| 16:33.52 | Rawplayer | get it there |
| 16:34.02 | wilm | bob2: because i have a config file for version 4 |
| 16:34.09 | wilm | Rawplayer : thanks, will try |
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| 16:34.20 | mz | hey fellows |
| 16:34.37 | mz | I want to do a net install on a 486 with 8MB of mem, what bootdisk can I use? |
| 16:34.46 | fungku | bob2: I added a second line under the one already there in modules.conf for an smc-ultra but I changed the io address, shouldn't the be enough to get the second nic working? |
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| 16:35.19 | J_P | people what is error: |
| 16:35.22 | cjs | sigh |
| 16:35.29 | J_P | dpkg: error processing joe (--remove): |
| 16:35.29 | dpkg | J_P: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 16:35.29 | J_P | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.29 | J_P | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:36.06 | wilm | bob2, Rawplayer : i now see there's a standard package `stunnel4'. sorry guys |
| 16:36.45 | J_P | anyone know what i need make for remove joe ? |
| 16:36.56 | bob2 | mz: potato |
| 16:37.03 | bob2 | J_P: what happened to your disk? |
| 16:37.17 | bob2 | fungku: dunno, I've never had to touch ISA stuff |
| 16:37.25 | fungku | right on |
| 16:37.39 | fungku | im trying to whip up a cheap 10mbit router |
| 16:37.45 | fungku | and i got a box full of this fucking nics |
| 16:37.52 | fungku | like 25+ of them |
| 16:38.04 | bob2 | are you in telecomms? |
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| 16:38.39 | zimba | what should I do if X11 crashes ? |
| 16:38.58 | fungku | heh, i worked with a computer liquidation place, i got boxs on top of boxs of stuff here |
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| 16:39.19 | zimba | X11 !! help !! :p |
| 16:39.20 | bob2 | zimba: figure out what happened. then file a bug. |
| 16:39.29 | z3r0x | zimba: restart the X-server =P |
| 16:39.33 | bob2 | fungku: do you see much 72-pin ram come through? |
| 16:39.35 | zimba | lol |
| 16:39.47 | zimba | I think it's a vmware problem |
| 16:40.01 | bob2 | ah |
| 16:40.05 | bob2 | then don't file a bug |
| 16:40.13 | bob2 | make use of your paid support from vmware and make them fix it |
| 16:40.41 | J_P | bob2 i try apt-get -f dist-upgrade.. |
| 16:40.50 | fungku | bob2: its been seen, I dont have any, soon as it comes in its gone again |
| 16:40.51 | zimba | bob2, other alternative ? :p |
| 16:40.52 | J_P | bob2 but joe is problem... |
| 16:41.00 | fungku | i shure as hell dont have the money for it |
| 16:41.14 | bob2 | J_P: that's all? really? |
| 16:41.26 | bob2 | fungku: hah, rare as hell these days |
| 16:41.41 | J_P | bob2 yes, only joe problem how i remove it ? |
| 16:41.53 | bob2 | J_P: install it first |
| 16:42.01 | bob2 | J_P: something has massacred your hard disk, though |
| 16:42.06 | fungku | nothin beats the 286 someone tryed to trade in on a p2 450 |
| 16:42.17 | bob2 | haha |
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| 16:42.39 | J_P | bob2 but joe is installed... |
| 16:42.55 | bob2 | J_P: reinstall it |
| 16:42.58 | fungku | we were gonna givem 10 bucks for it but they refused because they said it was a rip off |
| 16:43.03 | bob2 | J_P: something has gone hirrbly, horribly wrong |
| 16:43.11 | J_P | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.11 | J_P | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 16:43.23 | CowboyNeal | heh, I have found several pages on google with people having the same trouble with ipv6 mods trying to load, but none of them has a fix or is even in english |
| 16:43.39 | CowboyNeal | maybe there's a fix, just not in english |
| 16:43.48 | bob2 | CowboyNeal: the kernel autoloads it, lots of thigns in Debian try ipv6 stuff |
| 16:44.02 | CowboyNeal | but there's no way to just turn it off? |
| 16:44.02 | tarzeau | www.linuks.mine.nu/goatse.txt |
| 16:44.12 | bob2 | I dunno |
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| 16:44.23 | bob2 | I thought there was a bug open about it already |
| 16:44.25 | CowboyNeal | the buffer in dmesg fills up pretty quickly with all those error mesgs, making it kinda uselss |
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| 16:44.31 | bob2 | yeah |
| 16:44.51 | CowboyNeal | maybe I'll end up just compiling ipv6 support |
| 16:45.06 | CowboyNeal | that'd make the error go away too |
| 16:45.16 | bob2 | go get yourself a /48 from freenet6 |
| 16:45.24 | bob2 | 2^96 ip addreses for your house |
| 16:45.26 | oliver | hey, i can find my cdrom device, i can burn and stuff with it, just not fund the /dev/XX to mont it. |
| 16:45.32 | oliver | how can i look for it |
| 16:45.35 | bob2 | oliver: /dev/scd0 |
| 16:45.40 | oliver | ill try. |
| 16:45.42 | bob2 | oliver: make sure you have sr_mod loaded |
| 16:45.57 | bob2 | whatever happened to GiS, btw? |
| 16:46.05 | sgeigerbot | bob2: what are you doing with so many IP addresses? ;-) Nothing... |
| 16:46.11 | {xmb} | nooo |
| 16:46.13 | {xmb} | about goatse |
| 16:46.17 | bob2 | sgeigerbot: hosting GAMP |
| 16:46.26 | oliver | bob2 nope sr_mod isnt |
| 16:46.27 | bob2 | sgeigerbot: I have the main GAMP.com datacentre here |
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| 16:46.29 | sgeigerbot | {xmb}: If there's something sicker than goatse.cx, it's this: http://www.cafeshops.com/sfdc.7002874 |
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| 16:46.37 | bob2 | oliver: load it. |
| 16:46.48 | {xmb} | riight sg |
| 16:46.51 | sgeigerbot | bob2: I doubt that. You don't even know how to *spell* datacenter. |
| 16:46.55 | oliver | doesnt exist :) where can i find it in menuconfig? |
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| 16:47.16 | bob2 | oliver: scsi cdrom support. or are you using 2.6 with ide cdrom burning support? |
| 16:47.33 | oliver | 2.4.21 |
| 16:47.37 | zimba | bob2 : the star on #debian :) |
| 16:47.38 | fungku | sgeigerbot: maybe hes canadian |
| 16:47.45 | oliver | and i can burn cds with it :) |
| 16:47.46 | bob2 | sgeigerbot: your American Superiority Unit seems to be malfunctioning, you didn't call me a "commie pig" in that last comment. |
| 16:47.47 | sgeigerbot | fungku: Worse! |
| 16:47.51 | bztunk | tarzeau: hahaha, it's because of dolphin sex :D |
| 16:48.03 | fungku | shut up |
| 16:48.09 | bob2 | oliver: you need "scsi cdrom support" then. |
| 16:48.10 | fungku | canada has cheap ass internet |
| 16:48.14 | sgeigerbot | bob2: :-) |
| 16:48.16 | tarzeau | bztunk: i love www.dolphinsex.org |
| 16:48.25 | tarzeau | fortunatley if that goes down, i have a mirror of it |
| 16:48.26 | oliver | Yep compiling now |
| 16:48.31 | bob2 | haha |
| 16:48.47 | bob2 | you don't have enough disk space to build your packages, but you mirrored dolphinsex |
| 16:48.54 | tarzeau | bob2: hehe :) |
| 16:48.55 | bob2 | :-P |
| 16:48.58 | tarzeau | bob2: hey wait! |
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| 16:49.03 | tarzeau | bob2: it's small |
| 16:49.03 | bztunk | tarzeau: haha :D |
| 16:49.08 | kzar | incase anyone was wondering, heres the code to use in the procmailrc to delete the dilbert ad "| sed -e '/<!-- AD TABLE BEGIN -->/,/<!-- DATE TABLE BEGIN -->/c\<TABLE WIDTH="651" CELLPADDING="0" CELLSPACING="0" BORDER="0"><TR VALIGN="BOTTOM"><TD WIDTH="183" BGCOLOR="#336699"><IMG SRC="http://www.comics.com/comics/dilbert/daily_dilbert/images/daily_dilbert_logo.gif" WIDTH="183" HEIGHT="109" BORDER="0" ALT="Daily Dilbert"></TD></TR></TABLE>'" , im off, cya |
| 16:49.21 | jvh | I want to download gaim for Debian but i dont know what file to download, could someone please help me http://gaim.sourceforge.net/downloads.php |
| 16:49.33 | avatar | apt-get install gaim |
| 16:49.35 | bztunk | jvh: you apt-get install gaim |
| 16:49.37 | fungku | fuck it, im just gonna trow in a de 220pct and leave it at that |
| 16:49.43 | mz | VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... << while booting root.bin from potato disks, what's wrong/ |
| 16:49.59 | bztunk | mz: potato? |
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| 16:50.11 | bztunk | mz: why potato? |
| 16:50.18 | g4lt | mz yeah, that was a problem. get a new kernel ASAP |
| 16:50.19 | mz | bztunk: it's a i486 |
| 16:50.34 | jvh | bztunk - i didnt knew you could get gaim trough apt-get ?! Can you get all kinds of software not included in the installation with apt-get ? |
| 16:50.35 | mz | all other root.bins fail to boot |
| 16:50.43 | bob2 | bztunk: he has 8MB of ram |
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| 16:50.47 | bztunk | jvh: of course |
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| 16:51.11 | mz | is there a boot disk that can boot from floppy and continue from cdrom? |
| 16:51.13 | jvh | bztunk - I did not knew that.. Can you: "apt-get x-chat" aswell ? |
| 16:51.18 | tarzeau | mz: yes |
| 16:51.18 | bztunk | bob2: bah, i installed woody on my 486 & 8mb of ram by taking the hd and installing it with another computer |
| 16:51.22 | bztunk | jvh: yes |
| 16:51.29 | mz | where to get it? |
| 16:51.35 | bztunk | jvh: not sure this is the reall package name |
| 16:51.39 | tarzeau | mz: it's included on cd 1, at least for i386 |
| 16:51.45 | mz | hmm |
| 16:52.33 | emitchlpd | I have an ATI fire gl2 video card in this box. I can't find any solid documentation stating what driver I should use; according to xfree86.org it doesn't look like the 'ati' driver supports it |
| 16:52.33 | mz | I have the 31MB boot cd |
| 16:52.33 | avatar | jvh: apt-cache search [whatyouwanttofind] |
| 16:52.33 | bztunk | bztunk: and apt-installing was like freaking slow haha |
| 16:52.34 | jvh | bztunk - how do i find out what i can download trough apt-get and what the package name is ? |
| 16:52.34 | avatar | then it returns package names... apt-get install [packagename] |
| 16:52.34 | emitchlpd | everything I find is redhat related, pointing to an rpm that needs to be used to support the card |
| 16:52.34 | tarzeau | jvh: apt-cache pknames |
| 16:52.35 | bztunk | jvh: you can apt-get install aptitute then run aptitude |
| 16:52.35 | bob2 | emitchlpd: use alien to convert the rpm to a .deb |
| 16:52.37 | mz | tarzeau: the rescue.bin from the cd is 2.88 MB /: |
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| 16:52.45 | tarzeau | mz: there's one of 1.44 |
| 16:52.51 | tarzeau | mz: you'll need rescue+root |
| 16:53.16 | mz | tarzeau: ah well, woody and potato both fail at loading root.bin |
| 16:53.22 | bztunk | hum, i didn't know that top domains could be in caps |
| 16:53.26 | tarzeau | mz: bad floppy disks? |
| 16:53.26 | mz | VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... |
| 16:53.28 | jvh | bztunk, avatar, tarzeau - thanks alot for your help |
| 16:53.30 | tarzeau | mz: never failed for me |
| 16:53.41 | mz | that's teh error |
| 16:54.08 | fungku | heap of shit, i need that 4th nic |
| 16:54.14 | jvh | bztunk, avatar, tarzeau - is there any place where i can read about what apt-get is and how it works ? Because i dont know anything about it |
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| 16:54.18 | lcolleton | I'm tryint to activate my thinkpad's IR port. When I run irattach it says there's no such device as /dev/ttyS1 . I'm sure that's the IR port (turned on in bios) Help? |
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| 16:54.24 | daky | hi |
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| 16:54.36 | bztunk | sgeigerbot: someone wants your apt-get faq! |
| 16:54.36 | tarzeau | jvh: yes |
| 16:54.53 | daky | does someone knows how to generate x500 certificates on debian plz? |
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| 16:55.02 | tarzeau | daky: using openssl |
| 16:55.05 | bob2 | daky: with the "openssl" command |
| 16:55.06 | bztunk | !x500 |
| 16:55.09 | tarzeau | daky: just like everywhere |
| 16:55.21 | daky | tarzeau: ok |
| 16:55.37 | bob2 | !+x509 |
| 16:55.52 | bob2 | daky: you'll need a howto, it's not something we can explain over IRC |
| 16:56.12 | jvh | tarzeau - do you know a place ? :-) |
| 16:56.27 | tarzeau | jvh: sgeigerbot knows one |
| 16:56.33 | tarzeau | jvh: try topic faq |
| 16:56.44 | tarzeau | jvh: i have linked to sgeigerbot's page but i'm too lazy to look it up for you |
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| 16:56.55 | bob2 | jvh: /usr/share/doc/apt/guide.text.gz |
| 16:57.27 | jvh | tarzeau - what is a sgeigerbot? |
| 16:57.30 | oliver | bob what device dod you say that was to try? |
| 16:57.33 | daky | tarzeau: do you have an example ? |
| 16:57.36 | tarzeau | jvh: someone in here |
| 16:57.37 | daky | plz |
| 16:57.42 | bob2 | oliver: /dev/scd0 |
| 16:57.45 | tarzeau | daky: no |
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| 16:58.02 | daky | ok ;) |
| 16:58.02 | oliver | woohoo ! got it |
| 16:58.04 | daky | no pb |
| 16:58.09 | oliver | Thanks man. sr_mod was missing after all |
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| 16:58.33 | jvh | tarzeau - thought maybe there was some kind of text on the internet where i could read about it, and its functions |
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| 16:59.11 | tarzeau | jvh: www.linuks.mine.nu/workstation/ |
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| 16:59.51 | jvh | tarzeau - Thanks alot for your help, think iøll read it through |
| 16:59.55 | jvh | i'll |
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| 17:03.58 | sgeigerbot | jvh: Debian Package Management Info: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/apt-get-intro.html or http://sgeiger.mine.nu/docs/pkgmgmt.php or (tarzeau's) http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq/ or (thanks za) apt-get install apt-howto-en or (if you forget) /msg apt mgmt or /msg apt pkgmgmt |
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| 17:04.28 | saloxin | anyone know how to burn under 2.6 kernels? My cdrecord just chokes. |
| 17:04.29 | sgeigerbot | bztunk: thanks. |
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| 17:04.42 | sgeigerbot | saloxin: "chokes"? Make your question a little more specific, and perhaps then some of the people here will answer. |
| 17:04.51 | tarzeau | saloxin: error messages exact, http:// where? |
| 17:05.01 | Mage | saloxin: dev=ATAPI |
| 17:05.08 | Mage | in place of x,x,x |
| 17:05.16 | saloxin | dev=ATAPI -scanbus no fun |
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| 17:05.53 | bztunk | sgeigerbot: haha np |
| 17:06.41 | tarzeau | apt sex |
| 17:06.48 | | get off irc you filthy pervert. |
| 17:06.48 | paladin__ | dev=/hdX |
| 17:07.08 | tarzeau | apt kamasutra is http://www.nerdfashion.com/sex.html |
| 17:07.10 | | okay, tarzeau |
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| 17:07.17 | sgeigerbot | ~botsex tarzeau |
| 17:07.21 | | ACTION mounts tarzeau's leg. Aaaaahhh! |
| 17:07.34 | paladin__ | lol |
| 17:07.36 | sgeigerbot | ls -la /mnt/tarzeau/leg |
| 17:07.46 | saloxin | error message is on http://krutt.dyndns.org/cdrecord-error.txt |
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| 17:08.05 | tarzeau | saloxin: checked bugs.debian.org/cdrecord yet? |
| 17:08.17 | saloxin | tarzeau: nope. will do |
| 17:08.34 | saloxin | tarzeau: but I'm not sure it's a bug. Maybe it just doesn't support 2.6? |
| 17:08.34 | fungku | whats the best kernel to use for iptables? |
| 17:08.37 | fungku | 2.4.23? |
| 17:08.49 | sgeigerbot | ~best |
| 17:08.50 | | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! |
| 17:08.57 | KursK | got problem with kernel 2.6.1, modules, woody: I downloaded module-init-tools, move the path to depmod before the depmod of modutils but I still got unresolved symbols? |
| 17:09.04 | avatar | MEN WITHOUT HATS IS THE BEST |
| 17:09.38 | KursK | I downloaded module-init-tools-0.9.14.tar.gz btw because it's the latest stable (?) |
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| 17:10.16 | MastaFlash | Tina Turner! is the best |
| 17:10.17 | sgeigerbot | We can dance if we want to We can leave your friends behind 'Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance Well they're no friends of mine - Men Without Hats. |
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| 17:10.41 | sgeigerbot | Ah we can go when we want to the night is young and so am I And we can dress real neat from our hats to our feet and surprise 'em with the victory cry |
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| 17:11.09 | mz | apt the best is Women without Hats! |
| 17:11.11 | | ...but best is already something else... |
| 17:11.19 | MastaFlash | sgeigerbot are you training for some reallety show ? |
| 17:11.31 | azreal | most people are dicks. -ludichrist |
| 17:11.33 | sm0key | re all |
| 17:11.39 | sgeigerbot | MastaFlash: :-) Man...now *THERE'S* an idea. |
| 17:11.57 | g4lt | azreal no, half are bitches |
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| 17:12.27 | MastaFlash | ha... |
| 17:12.29 | g4lt | sgeigerbot in order to star on a reality show, you have to be in touch with it first ;P |
| 17:12.46 | sgeigerbot | g4lt: not from what I've seen. |
| 17:12.51 | bztunk | !the best |
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| 17:12.58 | bztunk | ~the best |
| 17:13.05 | bztunk | ~best |
| 17:13.07 | | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! |
| 17:13.10 | sm0key | tried to make a debian install with boot-floppiez, and after drivers.tgz download i got a bad tar header message, and install halts... any ideas? |
| 17:13.17 | mz | ~best distro |
| 17:13.19 | | best distro is, like, debian, or the easiest way to install debian is with the knoppix installer on the knoppix live CD at http://www.knoppix.net |
| 17:13.31 | sgeigerbot | Yes! |
| 17:13.32 | mz | ~best distro is gentoo! |
| 17:13.34 | | ...but best distro is already something else... |
| 17:13.37 | mz | )= |
| 17:13.37 | bztunk | mz: b& |
| 17:13.42 | azreal | dont the idiots who are being fooled in these so called reality shows watch fucking tv? if they did they would see there own dumb asses on there wouldnt they? |
| 17:13.56 | mz | i like gentoo > debian |
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| 17:14.24 | g4lt | mz then go over to #gentoo |
| 17:14.24 | MastaFlash | irc is the true reality show |
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| 17:14.32 | mz | g4lt: already there |
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| 17:14.40 | g4lt | mz then leave here |
| 17:14.50 | sm0key | pls... i'm really fucked up if i can't make the install... |
| 17:14.58 | sm0key | tried to make a debian install with boot-floppiez, and after drivers.tgz download i got a bad tar header message, and install halts... any ideas? |
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| 17:15.06 | g4lt | azreal you realize that the "reality" happens LONG before air date? |
| 17:15.18 | mz | I like it here |
| 17:15.31 | LoRez | mz: don't reprogram our bots. |
| 17:15.36 | azreal | g4lt: no, didnt realize, but i figured it would probably have to happen that way |
| 17:16.08 | mz | LoRez: I dont |
| 17:16.08 | azreal | g4lt: unless all these people are really clueless |
| 17:16.12 | LoRez | mz: you just tried to. |
| 17:16.18 | mz | LoRez: I did not |
| 17:16.38 | LoRez | mz: bullshit. what do you think '<mz> ~best distro is gentoo!' does? |
| 17:16.46 | mz | nothing :) |
| 17:17.10 | LoRez | ah, ignorance. k. |
| 17:17.17 | mz | dont whine /: |
| 17:17.22 | LoRez | that actually explains a lot. |
| 17:17.34 | MastaFlash | did you know that huble is gona be disable ? |
| 17:17.35 | mz | ~best distro |
| 17:17.37 | | i guess best distro is debian, or the easiest way to install debian is with the knoppix installer on the knoppix live CD at http://www.knoppix.net |
| 17:18.05 | g4lt | MastaFlash sort of: they're going to put it in a higher orbit at least one more time |
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| 17:18.56 | MastaFlash | i recon the usa is gona look for oil on mars now |
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| 17:19.54 | mearls | anyone having issues with kernel-image-2.6.0-1-686 not booting passed console fonts? |
| 17:20.55 | fungku | someone upstairs is gonna get pissed :D |
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| 17:22.01 | MastaFlash | what do you mean by that fungku ? |
| 17:22.04 | g4lt | MastaFlash well, they couldn't find water, so I guess that's another thing to look for... ;/ |
| 17:22.43 | MastaFlash | i think huble is more important than going to mars and cheaper too |
| 17:22.58 | fungku | well theres three of us in the house and Im managing to eat up all the bandwidth while downloading a kernel source |
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| 17:23.34 | mentor | fungku: PAcket Scheduler. |
| 17:24.06 | fungku | right now the modem is plugged right to the hubs uplink port while im rebuilding my router |
| 17:24.19 | MastaFlash | PAcket Scheduler sounds good and i havent used it |
| 17:24.27 | MastaFlash | whats the comand line ? |
| 17:25.10 | mentor | MastaFlash: er...'tc' in the iproute package controls the packet scheduler...but the engine itself is kernel mode. |
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| 17:26.37 | fungku | is it gonna be hard to setup iptables todo routeing to two different nics? |
| 17:26.38 | azreal | and within a year huge tracts of the past were being drained of all their energy and simply wasting away. Those who claimed that the past should be left unspoilt were accused of indulging in an extremely expensive form of sentimentality. The past provided a very cheap, plentiful and clean source of energy. |
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| 17:27.32 | azreal | there could always be a few Natural Past Reserves set up if anyone wanted to pay for their upkeep. |
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| 17:28.01 | g4lt | azreal is there some reason you're flooding us with HHGTTG? |
| 17:28.19 | speakman- | hi folks! anyone using OpenVPN ? I need some help with routing two LAN's ! |
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| 17:28.27 | azreal | g4lt: someone mentioned mineing for oil on mars |
| 17:28.29 | fungku | what does klogd do? |
| 17:28.51 | mentor | kernel log daemon |
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| 17:29.04 | mentor | fungku: man klogd |
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| 17:29.12 | MastaFlash | i guess mars looks alot like the deserts on iraque thats probaly why the usa is going there |
| 17:29.14 | azreal | g4lt: and im depressed, i suppose it helps alleviate the symptoms |
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| 17:29.53 | fungku | i dont need it do I? |
| 17:30.05 | speakman- | anyone can help me with routing via OpenVPN? |
| 17:30.08 | abrotman | kernel log daemon? |
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| 17:30.25 | fungku | yeh |
| 17:30.30 | mentor | kernel log daemon! |
| 17:31.00 | mentor | fungku: Well...it'd be a fairly stupod idea to remove it. |
| 17:31.02 | speakman- | man klogd |
| 17:31.16 | fungku | ill find somethin else to remove |
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| 17:31.33 | fungku | cron... does any system stuff use that? |
| 17:31.38 | fungku | I know what it is |
| 17:31.53 | mentor | fungku: Then look in the cron jobs. |
| 17:33.32 | fungku | mentor: might I ask how, I didnt see any sort of list options under man |
| 17:33.44 | MastaFlash | i think linux rox it just needs so more frontends for the command line programs |
| 17:33.57 | hacim | i've got a mouse setup in X to use /dev/psaux and ps/2 it was working, but now it is crazy |
| 17:34.06 | speakman- | MastaFlash: why? command line programs is the roxing part of linux ;D |
| 17:34.06 | azreal | MastaFlash: you mean like, bash? |
| 17:34.09 | mentor | fungku: /etc/cron* |
| 17:34.13 | speakman- | azreal: lol :D |
| 17:34.14 | MastaFlash | no |
| 17:34.17 | mentor | fungku: man crontab? |
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| 17:34.40 | speakman- | anyone know about OpenVPN? |
| 17:34.58 | MastaFlash | newbies should try frontends before going into bash |
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| 17:35.37 | abrotman | hacim: did you install gpm? |
| 17:35.50 | MastaFlash | some frontends that displays the command line argumentes would be nice |
| 17:35.53 | azreal | MastaFlash: newbies end up in bash regardless |
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| 17:36.31 | azreal | MastaFlash: that would be the job of man(1) |
| 17:36.36 | MastaFlash | no |
| 17:36.48 | MastaFlash | your thinking in tha past |
| 17:37.09 | azreal | MastaFlash: xman(1) ? |
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| 17:38.00 | hacim | abrotman: I had gpm installed before, and my X configured for gpmdata, but that didn't work |
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| 17:38.05 | tefsom | hi all |
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| 17:38.48 | tefsom | i need a web browser for console (frame buffer) i've tried links www.google.com > /dev/fb0 but doesn't work correctly. Is my command correct ? |
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| 17:38.57 | MastaFlash | i relly think making frontends for the bash kernels would make linux alot more usable by every one |
| 17:39.15 | MastaFlash | it should be the next step towars easy of use |
| 17:39.30 | azreal | MastaFlash: explain what you mean, a commandline is a commandline, an interface to it does not make it any simpler when what lies benaeth it is still the same. you can write frontends till your blue in the face, take a look at the plethora of frontends to iptables |
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| 17:39.36 | hacim | abrotman: ah, /etc/init.d/gpm stop fixes it |
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| 17:39.46 | MastaFlash | i mean having a frontend for ls |
| 17:40.03 | b00 | hello. am i imagining stuff, or using nvidia agp does make things faster ? |
| 17:40.12 | azreal | iptables is still what is there, and to understand it, you would have to do a good deal of reading to understand it |
| 17:40.28 | MastaFlash | you press a botton for list all would add -a to the command line actualy being executed |
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| 17:40.58 | mentor | b00: Yes, amazingly writing drivers with reference to the specification of the hardware makes them more efficient. |
| 17:41.07 | MastaFlash | and ther would be a text box showing the ls -a |
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| 17:41.12 | azreal | MastaFlash: many file browsers/managers serve that purpose allready |
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| 17:41.47 | b00 | mentor: well, you can be sarcastic and stuff... |
| 17:41.57 | UKDJ|Jake0 | am i right in thinking when you install debian the kernel is automatically configured for your hardware ? |
| 17:42.02 | UnknownQ | if i imaged a hard drive with the install cd iso could i boot that hard drive? |
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| 17:42.13 | b00 | thing is, with nvidia agp enabled, i get nice kernel complains about the nvidia driver, with stack dumps |
| 17:42.14 | no | When i install gaim trough apt-get it's v0.58 but on http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ its v0.75 How do i get the new version ? |
| 17:42.15 | tefsom | is there a manner to use links from console ? |
| 17:42.32 | frealek | links ? the web browser ? just type "links" |
| 17:42.33 | mentor | b00: Yup...the joy of closed source. |
| 17:42.35 | abrotman | hacim: maybe uninstall gpm .. unless you use mouse at console |
| 17:42.47 | mentor | b00: Not much anyone can do about it except nvidia. |
| 17:42.48 | azreal | MastaFlash: ill bet that there is something close to what you want allready, search around on freshmeat.net |
| 17:42.58 | tefsom | frealek: sure but i mean from frame buffer |
| 17:43.07 | tefsom | frealek: to see images on web pages |
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| 17:43.09 | tefsom | and so on |
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| 17:43.16 | b00 | mentor: well, do you use anygraphics card? ( > than some basic onboard thing ..) |
| 17:43.17 | frealek | oh ! I don't know sorry, but that would be really great |
| 17:43.50 | mentor | b00: Yes...Matrox G400 |
| 17:44.06 | MastaFlash | azreal but the front ends should be for newbeis and the porpuse woiuld be make ppl aware of what the command lines options they need and making them |
| 17:44.07 | b00 | mentor: can you play 3d with it? |
| 17:44.12 | tefsom | frealek: i've seen it on a HP 712 at university |
| 17:44.15 | b00 | or you have 2d drivers only |
| 17:44.21 | xerophyte | How can i install evolution with apt-get the email client? |
| 17:44.23 | tefsom | and the distro was gentoo |
| 17:44.24 | mentor | b00: well...yes... |
| 17:44.29 | no | When i install gaim trough apt-get it's v0.58 but on http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ its v0.75 How do i get the new version ? |
| 17:44.30 | MastaFlash | use the command line to concatenet commands and start bash programing |
| 17:44.51 | frealek | tefsom: if you know (and if there's a quick way to do it) just lemme know please :) drop me a msg |
| 17:45.02 | azreal | MastaFlash: i think that is going against the grain a bit, people should know basic unix commands allready |
| 17:45.03 | mentor | no: Which release are you using? |
| 17:45.09 | xerophyte | no if you want new version go unstable ;) |
| 17:45.18 | xerophyte | how can i install the gnome-evolution |
| 17:45.23 | MastaFlash | i dont know |
| 17:45.28 | no | mentor - 0.58 then one i just installer with apt-get |
| 17:45.34 | MastaFlash | im using this for 2 months |
| 17:45.41 | mentor | no: of Debian. |
| 17:45.46 | mentor | ~info gaim sid |
| 17:45.50 | Mage | no: which branch are you using ? |
| 17:45.57 | Mage | stable/testing/unstable ? |
| 17:46.01 | no | mentor - hmm i'm not sure.. 2.2 or something |
| 17:46.04 | MastaFlash | i believe that linux plays hard to get with newbies |
| 17:46.05 | tefsom | frealek: ok sure |
| 17:46.09 | xerophyte | so can anyone tell me how can install evolution |
| 17:46.13 | frealek | thx !! |
| 17:46.16 | fatal_ | no: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 17:46.37 | mentor | MastaFlash: Indeed, but what you're describing is more like parse tree translation... |
| 17:46.47 | mentor | MastaFlash: Shell scripting is evil anyway... |
| 17:46.48 | azreal | MastaFlash: not really, you just need someone who will let you pick there brain a bit until you can get the hang of it |
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| 17:46.51 | amphi | tefsom: have a look at http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~clock/twibright/links/ |
| 17:46.57 | amphi | bah |
| 17:47.01 | b00 | mentor: so was that yes.. or no ...? |
| 17:47.04 | MastaFlash | Shell scripting is evil ? |
| 17:47.05 | dvhart | where is the default PATH set for interactive bash shells on a debian system? |
| 17:47.14 | b00 | mentor: i might just sell this card and buy ati then |
| 17:47.27 | xerophyte | nobody know how to install evolution with apt-get |
| 17:47.29 | mentor | b00: Well, any card can play 3d... |
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| 17:47.44 | mentor | b00: What you really want to know is whetehr it can do it fast or well. |
| 17:47.49 | speakman- | anyone good at routing then? |
| 17:47.52 | dvhart | xerophyte, "apt-get install evolution" worked for me |
| 17:48.00 | b00 | mentor: yes, can it go at least as well as nvidia binaries? |
| 17:48.07 | mentor | b00: no. |
| 17:48.11 | amphi | tefsom: did you see that url or was it lost in the noise? |
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| 17:48.14 | b00 | ha, lame |
| 17:48.23 | mentor | no: cat /etc/debian_version. |
| 17:48.27 | tefsom | amphi: pls can paste it in query ? |
| 17:48.27 | mentor | ~tell no about releases |
| 17:48.30 | tefsom | tnx |
| 17:48.38 | mentor | tefsom: #flood |
| 17:48.43 | tefsom | sure ok |
| 17:48.56 | amphi | tefsom: got it? |
| 17:48.56 | no | mentor - i write this in xterm ? |
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| 17:49.02 | NaturalRoots | hi |
| 17:49.10 | NaturalRoots | how i install in my debian kde2 |
| 17:49.10 | tefsom | amphi: yep tnx |
| 17:49.10 | NaturalRoots | ? |
| 17:49.11 | xerophyte | dvhart, thx i was misspelled it ;) |
| 17:49.13 | mentor | no: Any shell session. |
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| 17:49.15 | tefsom | i'll try to read |
| 17:49.16 | NaturalRoots | i use apt |
| 17:49.49 | NaturalRoots | i install xserver-xfree86 and kde2 |
| 17:49.53 | NaturalRoots | but this erro |
| 17:49.59 | no | mentor - 3.0 |
| 17:50.04 | NaturalRoots | ~# kde2 |
| 17:50.07 | NaturalRoots | xsetroot: unable to open display '' |
| 17:50.07 | NaturalRoots | ksplash: cannot connect to X server |
| 17:50.08 | mentor | ~tell NaturalRoots about enter |
| 17:50.16 | mentor | no: Right, you are using stable. |
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| 17:50.42 | no | Mentor - Okaaay ? Is that a good thing ? |
| 17:50.47 | ambiguous | what I have to type in ipables, thus |
| 17:50.47 | ambiguous | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:50.47 | ambiguous | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:50.50 | eeyore- | i didn't realize you need kernel patch to support more than one masqueraded PPTP clients ... |
| 17:50.52 | NaturalRoots | how i install kde in my debian? |
| 17:51.01 | mentor | no: Stable doesn't contain the latest software, it has to be tested first. Sid contains the version of gaim you are looking for, but sid in broken and I wouldn't recommend using it unless you know what you are doing. |
| 17:51.02 | eeyore- | live and learn, and the kernel patch for that is for 2.4.19 :) two conflicts |
| 17:51.10 | mentor | ~info gaim sarge |
| 17:51.10 | no | NaturalRoots - apt-get install kde |
| 17:51.55 | NaturalRoots | ksplash: cannot connect to X server |
| 17:51.55 | NaturalRoots | Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set. |
| 17:51.55 | NaturalRoots | ksmserver: cannot connect to X server |
| 17:51.56 | mentor | no: You might try sarge, but sarge doesn't track security. |
| 17:51.56 | NaturalRoots | connect() failed: : No such file or directory |
| 17:52.02 | no | mentor - i dont know what sid is ? |
| 17:52.14 | no | Mentor - what is sarge ? |
| 17:52.24 | no | Mentor - i cant download it from the hp ? |
| 17:52.24 | mentor | ~tell NaturalRoots about enter |
| 17:52.27 | mentor | oops |
| 17:52.31 | mentor | ~tell no about releases |
| 17:52.38 | mentor | ~tell no about debian users' guide |
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| 17:54.01 | tefsom | amphi: do u know how to use links in graphical mode ? |
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| 17:54.40 | amphi | tefsom: nope :) I just d/l-ed the tarball, I'll play with it later; looks like it uses svgalib or fb |
| 17:54.50 | no | Mentor - how do i make a A like the one used in mail adresses (dont know what it's called in english) |
| 17:54.59 | tefsom | mmmm amphi so 've to install svgalib |
| 17:55.16 | amphi | tefsom: I also d/l-ed gtkfb to mess about with |
| 17:55.26 | mentor | no: What keyboard layout are you using? |
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| 17:55.28 | amphi | tefsom: you mean you haven't? |
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| 17:55.43 | no | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:55.49 | no | mentor - american i think |
| 17:55.59 | mentor | no: Shift-2? |
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| 17:56.17 | occy | anyone here know how I can make a list of packages I have installed on my debian 3.0 stable server I have, and then setup another box with the same exact packages? |
| 17:56.20 | no | Mentor - No just makes a : " |
| 17:56.20 | nomeata | Hi. Is there a way to force exim to accept a message, no matte how wrong it is? (My case: fetchmail collects mail from POP accounts, exim rejects mails with invalid email adresses, fetchmail won't flush them, they stay there forever and are transfered everytime fetchmail checks for mail) |
| 17:56.25 | occy | hmmm |
| 17:56.28 | mentor | no: Shift-'? |
| 17:56.38 | tefsom | amphi: no i haven't i'm installing |
| 17:56.49 | no | Mentor - Just makes a : ? |
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| 17:56.59 | MastaFlash | damn im banned from knoppix again |
| 17:57.03 | StyXman | hi all. I having problems w/ my tty and mutt |
| 17:57.05 | amphi | tefsom: try zgv with it, a nice image browser |
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| 17:57.17 | StyXman | basically, if I start mutt, the text blinks |
| 17:57.35 | mentor | no: You're not using a GB, UK or US layout then |
| 17:57.40 | StyXman | tried to reset the TERM envvar to vt100 and linux-m, and no luck |
| 17:57.43 | Gujin | hey, I installed linux-2.6.0 but when I try to load it with my grub boot loader I get : Cannot open root device "hdb5" or unknown-blocK(0,0) . Google didn't help me this time... |
| 17:57.55 | StyXman | even so, those are supposed to be mono, but color is still shown |
| 17:58.12 | no | Mentor - I cant be using Danish because : alt gr + 2 makes a usually |
| 17:58.20 | ambiguous | StyXman: Yes, you're root hd is not hdb |
| 17:58.23 | ambiguous | perhaps... |
| 17:58.23 | StyXman | reinstalled ncurses-base, where are the involved terminfos to no avail |
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| 17:58.49 | StyXman | ambiguous: not me |
| 17:59.04 | ambiguous | StyXman: sorry |
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| 17:59.15 | StyXman | ambiguous: NP |
| 17:59.25 | ambiguous | Gujin: Yes, you're root hd is not hdb |
| 17:59.37 | Gujin | ambiguous, it is |
| 17:59.41 | Gujin | it works fine with 2.4 |
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| 18:00.04 | no | Mentor - i cant even copy+paste one from ksirc to gaim :-( |
| 18:00.19 | tefsom | amphi: i've installed zgv but it doesn't work correctly |
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| 18:00.45 | amphi | tefsom: you probably need to set up svgalib properly |
| 18:00.46 | cafu | no try 'setxkbmap -layout dk' (to get danish layout) |
| 18:01.00 | amphi | tefsom: /etc/vga/config.libvga IIRC |
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| 18:01.16 | amphi | tefsom: libvga.config |
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| 18:01.37 | amphi | tefsom: in what way does it 'not work correctly'? |
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| 18:02.04 | xerophyte | okay how can i get the virtual desktop for the sawfish windows manager? |
| 18:02.21 | tefsom | amphi: ok i try to configure it |
| 18:02.29 | Slippy | Hello... I'm pretty new to debian so here goes: I wish to install the new kernel 2.6.1 - is it ok to get it from kernel.org? Or do debian require it to be patched with some debian stuff? |
| 18:02.37 | StyXman | xerophyte: waddya mean? |
| 18:02.39 | no | cafu - says client not autorized to connect to server |
| 18:02.43 | tefsom | even if i think that mouse configuration is not too much important isn't it ? |
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| 18:02.52 | StyXman | Slippy: which debian? |
| 18:02.57 | Slippy | Unstable |
| 18:03.03 | StyXman | stable/woody, other? |
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| 18:03.26 | Slippy | Woody 3.0 and then upgraded to unstable |
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| 18:03.33 | cafu | no doing this su'd to root on users xsession? - do it as user |
| 18:03.33 | StyXman | Slippy: juts point your deblines to a server, apt-get update, then apt-get install |
| 18:03.37 | ramon | what's the best way to install the same packages that are currently installed in a system to another system? |
| 18:03.37 | amphi | tefsom: in what way does it 'not work correctly'? |
| 18:03.41 | xerophyte | StyXman, you know you have virtual desktop on the screen so you can move the some of the applicaiton to different virtual desktop |
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| 18:03.56 | Hal9002 | how do i add a new user without creating the /home directory? i need the user just to run the irc server |
| 18:04.15 | StyXman | xerophyte: you mean, how to conf sawfish to provide several vdesktops? |
| 18:04.17 | Slippy | StyXman, so I can't use a kernel from kernel.org? |
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| 18:04.21 | LoRez | Hal9002: reverse 'add' and 'user' |
| 18:04.36 | greycat | FOO=`wget -O - http://my.site/foo.php 2>/dev/null` ? |
| 18:04.38 | greycat | bah. |
| 18:04.54 | StyXman | Slippy: yes, you can, but you won get a .deb there, just a tar.bz2. if you can handle that. then is no problem. |
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| 18:05.12 | no | cafu - it works thank you so much |
| 18:05.12 | speakman- | last time: ANYONE with knowledge in VPN (preferable openvpn) please contact me ! |
| 18:05.24 | xerophyte | StyXman, yup how can i do |
| 18:05.25 | matteo | Hi |
| 18:05.28 | no | Cafu - Look : @@@@@@ |
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| 18:05.47 | Slippy | Ah goodie... StyXman :) I can handle it! I was just wondering what all those debian patches for the kernel was for |
| 18:06.02 | cafu | no eidti your XF86Config-4 to make it start with correct keybmap forthwith |
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| 18:06.20 | StyXman | Slippy: mb you can apt-get source the kernel package and checkpout by yourself |
| 18:06.35 | no | cafu - nano .xsession ? |
| 18:06.42 | DaFrog | whats the best channel to ask about loading debian on a really old compaq prosigia server? |
| 18:06.42 | tefsom | amphi: i'm configuring svgalib |
| 18:06.46 | StyXman | xerophyte: well, there must be a conf program or by editing its conffiles... I guess |
| 18:06.54 | StyXman | has no manpage? |
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| 18:07.31 | Slippy | StyXman: Thanks! One last question before i continue my installation, what's the best way to install the new xfree 4.3? Is it via experimental sources? |
| 18:07.43 | tefsom | amphi: nothing changed well.... it doesn't work correctly means that it displays only some black and white horizontal lines. |
| 18:07.59 | cafu | no best read the basic info like newbiedoc to get a grip on basic issues |
| 18:08.11 | StyXman | Slippy: last I heard, yes |
| 18:08.20 | Slippy | Okay thanks...later dude |
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| 18:09.04 | DaFrog | are there any debian boot floppies that will allow use of a cd-rom drive for installation? |
| 18:09.19 | MastaFlash | lol |
| 18:09.38 | MastaFlash | cdrom isnt booting ? |
| 18:09.41 | joels_ | how do I find out how much drive space is available on my partitions as well as how much memory a particular directory has? |
| 18:09.46 | xerophyte | Does anybody know how can i configure the sawfish virtual desktop? |
| 18:09.47 | amphi | tefsom: heh |
| 18:09.48 | EmleyMoor | I am acquiring a new printer very shortly that uses the hpijs add-on to the ijs driver - does anyone know how to set up such a printer using lprng as the spooler? |
| 18:10.03 | amphi | tefsom: what driver is svgalib using? when in doubt, try vesa |
| 18:10.21 | tefsom | sure it's the same used by XFree86 |
| 18:10.27 | EmleyMoor | DaFrog: They all should |
| 18:10.34 | DaFrog | i have an old prosignia. its from 1995 |
| 18:10.41 | DaFrog | its got a cd-rom but will only boot from the floppy drive |
| 18:10.42 | amphi | tefsom: IIRC zgv by default uses 8-bit mode; tell it not to in /etc/zgv.conf |
| 18:10.59 | amphi | tefsom: 8-bit modes seem problematic on some cards |
| 18:11.07 | DaFrog | its actually got n t3.51 server service pack 2 on it |
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| 18:11.48 | tefsom | amphi: one moment... using vesa it seems to work but. ... wait |
| 18:12.01 | EmleyMoor | (failing that, would it be easy to set up cups) |
| 18:12.07 | tefsom | sure it works !! |
| 18:12.07 | tefsom | ehe h |
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| 18:12.28 | DaFrog | do these debian resuce floppies support the cd-rom drive? |
| 18:12.28 | tefsom | amphi: something about pdf files ? |
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| 18:12.45 | uws | DaFrog: afaik, they do |
| 18:13.21 | DaFrog | so far i seem to have reliability issues with trying to do that sort of boot. once it asks for the second disk with the root files or whatnot it goes into a kernel panic |
| 18:13.36 | Hal9002 | i have a very simple problem but can't figure out: i want to install a service which has to run under a user which is not root. I did a 'useradd anope', but now i have no rights to extract the program sources in /usr/src and installing... what am i missing? |
| 18:13.43 | KroNnUsSs | help-me about CBQ, I already did everything possible to it turn on, plz help-me |
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| 18:13.57 | EmleyMoor | DaFrog: You still need to use floppies at that stage I believe |
| 18:14.00 | amphi | tefsom: you can use bmv to view postscript |
| 18:14.16 | speakman- | anyone know a channel for routing / vpn ? |
| 18:14.22 | Saw^ | KroNnUsSs: hmh... What is CBQ? |
| 18:14.22 | DaFrog | i know, all i get is a kernel panic when it asks for the second floppy |
| 18:14.23 | tefsom | amphi: mmm for web browser nothing ? |
| 18:14.24 | Saw^ | =) |
| 18:14.55 | amphi | tefsom: I have a small script that converts pdf to ps and opens it in bmv if you want it |
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| 18:15.03 | KroNnUsSs | Saw^: a software about: limiting band for IP |
| 18:15.20 | nk__ | hm... as if I install a new theme i don't have fonts in my start menu any more... any suggestions? |
| 18:15.28 | nk__ | ...using icewm |
| 18:15.29 | azreal | DaFrog: your kernel is a pussy |
| 18:15.40 | tefsom | amphi: i can do it by myself tnx |
| 18:15.43 | b00 | ha hah haha |
| 18:15.48 | b00 | pussy kernel, |
| 18:15.51 | tefsom | amphi: i need a web browser now |
| 18:15.52 | b00 | lame :) |
| 18:16.17 | silas-_ | I'm trying to get a graphical console running, and I'm confused how I tell the kernel what frame buffer driver to use. I have a notebook with a trident video card, and my kernel has the tridentfb driver as a module and vesafb compiled into the kernel. How do I tell it which one to use, and do I need the module in the initrd then? |
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| 18:16.41 | amphi | tefsom: did you try the tarball on the url I gave you? |
| 18:17.21 | KroNnUsSs | help-me about CBQ, I already did everything possible to it turn on, plz help-me |
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| 18:17.32 | tefsom | amphi: anyway i like fbi instead of zgv |
| 18:17.56 | tefsom | amphi: use fbi .... i've noticed a better quality and less calculus complexity |
| 18:18.10 | tefsom | amphi: not yet |
| 18:18.38 | tefsom | amphi: fbi is faster than xgv .... i've tried it on large pictures |
| 18:18.51 | Saw^ | fbi, cia, sis... |
| 18:18.55 | Saw^ | =) |
| 18:19.04 | Touns_ | plz i forgot what is the apache configuration file? |
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| 18:19.20 | tefsom | Saw^: eheh |
| 18:19.24 | Saw^ | Touns_: something like /etc/apache/... |
| 18:19.33 | Touns_ | haaaa yes lol oki thx Saw^ |
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| 18:20.15 | Saw^ | =) |
| 18:20.19 | Saw^ | rkp, kgb... |
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| 18:21.32 | amphi | tefsom: fbi doesn't seem to do directories |
| 18:21.51 | Saw^ | try cia then =) |
| 18:21.52 | tomZet | Hi, how can I check what printers I have configured for use with lpr? |
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| 18:22.05 | amphi | tefsom: but in general fb is probably faster than svgalib, certainly going to be faster than the VESA driver |
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| 18:22.33 | amphi | tefsom: is there a driver specific for your card? mind you the savage driver didn't work here |
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| 18:23.04 | tefsom | amphi: savage |
| 18:23.18 | tefsom | i've tried but it didn't change a lot |
| 18:23.37 | FrozByte | i'd like to install Debian SID using USB key which is 256mb, wondering how i could do that, and where i could get the USB image? |
| 18:23.38 | xerophyte | i have wheel mouse the whell is not working can i get that whell working under linux |
| 18:23.55 | no | Anyone knows why it says "Protocol not supported" when i run gaim msn |
| 18:24.25 | cafu | tomZet: try lpstat -a |
| 18:24.36 | silas-_ | Does anyone know if the bootsplash patch works with 2.6.1? I successfully patch using the -test9 patch, but I just get a blank console everytime I try to use it. Not sure if it's my console or not though. |
| 18:24.44 | funnyguy | no: it tells you in the error message |
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| 18:24.49 | funnyguy | its not supported |
| 18:24.50 | Rubin | Unpacking replacement debianutils ... |
| 18:24.54 | Rubin | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/debianutils_1.16.2woody1_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 18:24.54 | dpkg | Rubin: You are moron #6 |
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| 18:24.56 | Rubin | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:25.04 | Rubin | woo an official title |
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| 18:25.22 | funnyguy | Rubin : man dpkg |
| 18:25.29 | funnyguy | Rubin : dpkg --force |
| 18:25.36 | no | funnyguy - yeah it says: "unable to sign in protocol not supported" |
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| 18:25.38 | Rubin | that doesnt sound like a good idea.. |
| 18:26.03 | saptech | hello everybody |
| 18:26.05 | tomZet | cafu, thanx |
| 18:26.23 | no | funnyguy - okaaaaay, how do i make it support the damn protocol ? |
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| 18:28.19 | tomZet | cafu, lpstat -a tells me Epsonc84. But when I do lpr -PEpsonC84 mozilla.ps I get a "unknown printer". |
| 18:29.14 | sgeigerbot | no: Is there perhaps a protocol for msn that you have to install? |
| 18:29.16 | funnyguy | no: i have no idea. check the gaim website, i guarantee it is listed there |
| 18:29.27 | amphi | tefsom: sorry I was away - I couldn't get the savage svgalib driver to work properly here at all (Thinkpad) |
| 18:29.35 | sgeigerbot | no: ...I mean a plugin...that supports the protocol. |
| 18:29.58 | joels_ | how do I find out how much memory an entire directory contains? |
| 18:30.03 | joels_ | is there an ls flag? |
| 18:30.09 | LoRez | joels_: du -s $dir |
| 18:30.14 | joels_ | thanks |
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| 18:31.04 | eeyore- | patch-o-matic is kewl :-) |
| 18:31.05 | nvz | joels_: du -sh $dir |
| 18:31.20 | eeyore- | (and a little scary, for me anyway --- first time user) |
| 18:31.31 | louis | hey, I'm trying to install debian from a zip device. The only problem is that it's an external parallel zip device-- is it possible to mount this during install? |
| 18:32.11 | joels_ | it's listing 0 with that command |
| 18:32.14 | nvz | louis: should mount as a scsi device, but you would need scsi support and a low-level parallel scsi driver |
| 18:32.35 | louis | nvz, do you know if a flavor of the debian installer has this? |
| 18:32.36 | joels_ | It appears to not work on an NTFS drive |
| 18:32.38 | nvz | louis: I'd say read the install guide |
| 18:32.39 | joels_ | any way to do that? |
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| 18:32.45 | louis | hmm okay, I'll reread it |
| 18:32.56 | nvz | louis: I never read it myself. |
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| 18:33.10 | cafu | tomZet: corresponding command works nicely here |
| 18:33.37 | louis | are ZIP drives vfat? |
| 18:33.47 | tomZet | cafu, then there must be something really wrong here |
| 18:34.06 | tefsom | amphi: i've a hp omnibook xe3 |
| 18:34.07 | amphi | louis: well, the disks are - you need the imm module for parport zip drives IIRC |
| 18:34.11 | nvz | louis: no they are removable IDE/SCSI drives that can be formatted anyway you like |
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| 18:34.20 | tefsom | amphi: now have u installed links from the url u found ? |
| 18:34.34 | amphi | tefsom: haven't even untarred it yet :) |
| 18:34.51 | nvz | louis: the disks usually come Windows or Mac formatted, depending on which ones you buy |
| 18:34.52 | amphi | tefsom: I'm moving at glacial speed here |
| 18:34.52 | tefsom | i've links already installed but dunno how to use it in graphical mode |
| 18:34.55 | louis | nvz, okay thanks |
| 18:35.04 | tefsom | amphi: what do u mean ? |
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| 18:35.12 | amphi | tefsom: the debian stable links can't do graphics AFAIK |
| 18:35.17 | eeyore- | louis: for preformatted PC zip disks, it's the 4th partition |
| 18:35.26 | tefsom | amphi: i use sid packages |
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| 18:35.41 | louis | eeyore, okay thanks |
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| 18:35.54 | amphi | tefsom: dunno about them - TFM have nothing interesting to say about it? |
| 18:35.59 | tomZet | Hi, anyone knows why lpstat -a tells me Epsonc84. But when I do lpr -PEpsonC84 mozilla.ps I get a "unknown printer"? |
| 18:36.09 | engywook | What are all the X packages called? |
| 18:36.12 | tefsom | dunno |
| 18:36.23 | amphi | tefsom: I'm not sure the standard links can do it, you need the hacked version |
| 18:36.40 | tefsom | amphi: mmmm ok then i'll try to install it |
| 18:36.53 | tefsom | amphi: do u know if it coul be used in X too ? |
| 18:36.57 | louis | this freebsd tutorial (assuming it's similar enough) just seems to mount it as a scsi device without an additional driver |
| 18:37.04 | tefsom | (it has no sense but .... ) |
| 18:37.08 | nvz | I cant find my damn Social Security card. Got to love America, staple three forms of ID to your ass and come on in |
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| 18:37.47 | toot | hmm, why when i do apt-get install postgres-dev does it try to remove postgresql ? :) |
| 18:37.56 | thomas_adam_uni | toot: that's obvious |
| 18:38.02 | eeyore- | nvz: although you're not supposed to use SSN for identification purposes (say, as part of "account number"), many places do. so, you look at things like your health insurance ID and you might find your SSN |
| 18:38.08 | no | I just downloaded and unpacked amsn, now i cant use the ./amsn command, anyone who can help ? |
| 18:38.17 | toot | excellent, share with me then please :) |
| 18:38.20 | eeyore- | nvz: or, are you actually looking for the physical card? |
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| 18:38.34 | nvz | eeyore-: I need it for a job, I just ordered a new one when I changed my lisc over |
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| 18:39.08 | sgeigerbot | How can I bring my 2.6.1 sources up to 2.6.1-1 ? I don't see mention of that on kernel.org |
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| 18:39.15 | engywook | Could anybody please tell me what the X packages are called? |
| 18:39.32 | sgeigerbot | ...don't see a link to download the patch, I should say. |
| 18:39.33 | toot | thomas_adam whats your tip |
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| 18:39.40 | nvz | I am going for a job interview.. not a whole lot different from what I do here actually, except the pay and benefits |
| 18:39.46 | sgeigerbot | engywook: what do you want? KDE? GNOME? |
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| 18:39.50 | Qerub | What does [unsafe] mean in lsmod output? |
| 18:39.53 | jp- | apt xfree86 |
| 18:39.55 | | hmm... xfree86 is at http://www.xfree86.org |
| 18:40.05 | eeyore- | nvz: but you don't get to apply the cluebats .... or, do you? :-D |
| 18:40.11 | engywook | sgeigerbot: all of it, I've fucked something up and I want to remove it completely |
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| 18:40.26 | jp- | hmm, i forget the package name engywook, it's like x-something_here-common |
| 18:40.31 | jp- | or something similar |
| 18:40.32 | kreg | apt hi |
| 18:40.34 | | hello, kreg |
| 18:40.34 | nvz | eeyore-: no I dont think cluebats are allowed. |
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| 18:40.36 | eeyore- | engywook: dpkg --purge xlibs, clean up the ensuing mess |
| 18:40.39 | jp- | apt-cach search xfree |
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| 18:41.02 | louis | hmm it sounds like the standard debian installer should come with all the parallel support |
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| 18:41.13 | louis | guess I'll try that again.. thanks everyone! |
| 18:41.14 | engywook | sgeigerbot: X wont start, givig me some fatal error, it's done that since I changed from stable to testing. |
| 18:41.18 | eeyore- | engywook: dpkg --purge xlibs xfree86-common |
| 18:41.19 | silas-_ | When I boot my 2.6.1 custom-built kernel, I don't get any console messages, and this appears in dmesg: Console: colour dummy device 80x25 Any idea where I went wrong? Something with the framebuffer perhaps? |
| 18:41.38 | MastaFlash | whats the meaning of the litle square on the lower right corner of konquerer ? |
| 18:41.39 | engywook | thanks |
| 18:41.40 | sgeigerbot | engywook: well, here's how you *would* install it the easy way: <apt> i guess lazy x is 'apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect;dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xfree86 xfree86-common;apt-get install xserver-xfree86 xfree86-common' |
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| 18:41.53 | eeyore- | engywook: that'll probably take out one (or two) "essential" packages, too ;-) |
| 18:42.48 | Qerub | MastaFlash: To link views. |
| 18:42.53 | kreg | eeyore- why does purging xlibs fix that problem? |
| 18:43.02 | MastaFlash | link view ? |
| 18:43.10 | FrozByte | sgeigerbot: i want KDE 3.2rc1 is it available? on sid? |
| 18:43.21 | MastaFlash | im not familiar with that concept |
| 18:43.32 | Qerub | MastaFlash: If you for example got a normal file browser view and a terminal. |
| 18:44.05 | sgeigerbot | FrozByte: packages.debian.org |
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| 18:44.12 | Qerub | MastaFlash: Having those boxes checked maked Konq* run `cd foobar' in the terminal to follow the other view. |
| 18:45.03 | sgeigerbot | engywook: "some fatal error" Perhaps being specific in this channel would help you get an answer about how to fix that. |
| 18:45.15 | MastaFlash | you mean if you have a docked shell window ? |
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| 18:46.05 | engywook | sgeigerbot: I'd have to post my entire log, you wouldn't like that, would you?=D |
| 18:46.21 | FrozByte | you guys suck, i'm out of here, you guys are always behind on support, oh well, fedora here i come :D |
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| 18:46.29 | sgeigerbot | engywook: ever heard of #flood or a Web server? |
| 18:46.33 | nvz | well I am going to go out a look in my car again, and keep looking in the same obvious places until it magically appears |
| 18:46.39 | sgeigerbot | engywook: only the final error messages count |
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| 18:46.57 | kreg | heh heh |
| 18:46.59 | sgeigerbot | greycat: which troll? |
| 18:47.04 | kreg | frozbyte |
| 18:47.20 | sgeigerbot | greything: How can I bring my 2.6.1 sources up to 2.6.1-1 ? I don't see mention of that on kernel.org |
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| 18:47.25 | sgeigerbot | ;-) |
| 18:47.27 | engywook | sgeigerbot: true. If this doesn't work I will. |
| 18:47.43 | sgeigerbot | greycat: ^^ |
| 18:47.47 | greycat | sgeigerbot: "2.6.1-1" being a debian kernel version number? |
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| 18:48.24 | no | Anyone knows how i get the tcl/tk packages ? |
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| 18:48.38 | kreg | apt-cache search tcl |
| 18:48.39 | greycat | no: apt-get install tk8.3 (or whichever) |
| 18:48.40 | kreg | apt-cache search tk |
| 18:48.51 | no | greycat - thank you man |
| 18:48.55 | greycat | or tcl8.3, I forget |
| 18:49.10 | Qerub | What does [unsafe] in lsmod output mean? |
| 18:49.12 | eeyore- | kreg: it doesn't fix anything, he asked to remove X didn't he? |
| 18:49.23 | greycat | ~kill tcl for allowing programmers to construct function names dynamically so you can't find out what the fuck "eb_Db" does |
| 18:49.32 | | ACTION shoots a inverse fluxgraviton gun at tcl for allowing programmers to construct function names dynamically so you can't find out what the fuck "eb_Db" does |
| 18:49.47 | sgeigerbot | greycat: http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/dl-sf.html#Host%20patches lists "uml-patch-2.6.1-1.bz2" I don't know whether that is supposed to patch my 2.6.1 kernel sources. I kind of doubt it...but I don't see on kernel.org a linux-2.6.1-1.tar.bz2 |
| 18:49.47 | kreg | eeyore- i think he was doing an upgrade from woody to sarge, and x just didn't work after the upgrade. was just curious |
| 18:49.51 | eeyore- | greycat: that sounds a lot like what Porky would say |
| 18:50.17 | greycat | sgeigerbot: kernel.org doesn't use "2.6.X-Y" notation for their versions. It's just 2.6.1. |
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| 18:50.40 | greycat | sgeigerbot: so I'd imagine uml-patch-2.6.1-1.bz2 means "the first uml patch for kernel 2.6.1" |
| 18:51.00 | speakman- | greycat: hi man! |
| 18:51.10 | sgeigerbot | greycat: okay...your sanity is appreciated. |
| 18:51.11 | greycat | speakman-: hi man-! |
| 18:51.16 | speakman- | lol |
| 18:51.18 | silas-_ | Does a framebuffer driver (like tridentfb) have to be compiled into the kernel to support boot messages on startup? Can it be compiled as a module and loaded from an initrial ram disk and still work fully? |
| 18:51.19 | kreg | eeyore- i was going to ask about what xfree paks were considerd current from woody to sarge. not sure if xfree-common still applies to sarge. cuz i think some paks are ignored now. figured you would know better than me. |
| 18:51.24 | speakman- | have you ever used openvpn? |
| 18:51.39 | greycat | kreg: the package names haven't changed AFAIK |
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| 18:51.49 | no | Is amsn supported by apt-get ? |
| 18:52.00 | sgeigerbot | speakman-: I think Justin_ is the openvpn guru |
| 18:52.04 | kreg | greycat oh. maybe i'm thinking slak or someting else then. |
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| 18:52.37 | Qerub | starfrosch: The Debian kernel maintainer said that the framebuffer support is fully modularised in Debian kernels. |
| 18:52.48 | Qerub | silas-_: ^ |
| 18:52.51 | Qerub | Sorry. |
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| 18:53.33 | Qerub | no: Supported and supported... amsn is in Debian. |
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| 18:54.09 | engywook | sgeigerbot: aiight, that didn't work, here goes: XIO fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. |
| 18:54.36 | speakman- | Justin_: there? :) |
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| 18:55.26 | Althalus | Guys, i've tuned my drive with hdparm -d1 -X66 - do any of you know of a way to further tune it for ATA/100 - i know linux supports ATA/100 but can't see any way in hdparm to do it |
| 18:56.42 | Jacobo221 | someone know of an ftp client supporting Socks4/5? or a telnet client? |
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| 18:57.19 | vincent | Ok i used apt-get to install x-chat, the problem is : where is the shortcut to launch the program ? |
| 18:57.37 | Rawplayer | Althalus: what about -X100 ? |
| 18:57.45 | Rawplayer | i dont know if that work |
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| 18:57.49 | tefsom | amphi: i've installed links and it works in graphical mode |
| 18:57.50 | Rawplayer | but you can try |
| 18:57.59 | tefsom | amphi: but i've problem with gpm |
| 18:58.02 | engywook | sgeigerbot: any ideas? |
| 18:58.04 | tefsom | for the mouse in console |
| 18:58.08 | cafu | vincent: on your keyboard - like xchat(2) |
| 18:58.08 | LoRez | vincent: in your menu. you may have to restart your window manager |
| 18:58.10 | tefsom | amphi: have any idea ? |
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| 18:58.21 | streuner_ | vincent: what wm do you have? |
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| 18:58.45 | vincent | streuner_ - KDE |
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| 18:59.34 | amphi | tefsom: not if you don't describe the problem - you built the links from that url? |
| 19:00.08 | tefsom | amphi: yes |
| 19:00.21 | vincent | LoRez - how do i restart the wm without restarting the whole computer ? |
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| 19:00.44 | LoRez | vincent: no clue, I don't use KDE |
| 19:00.56 | petemc | logout |
| 19:01.05 | nvz | vincent: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE should Kill X and go back to the KDM login |
| 19:01.05 | tefsom | the problem is that gpmconfig (exactly the final test) doesn't permit the mouse (psaux) to move |
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| 19:01.19 | mcnugget | hi there |
| 19:01.28 | streuner_ | vincent: see the left big 'K' hit that with your pointer and logout |
| 19:01.28 | mcnugget | I need some help with ./configure |
| 19:01.30 | vincent | nvz - thanks alot |
| 19:01.37 | mcnugget | look at this |
| 19:01.46 | mcnugget | mcnugget@McNugget:/mnt/media/Toolsammlung/linux_krams/kwintv3-snapshot-20040112$ ./configure |
| 19:01.46 | mcnugget | bash: ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied |
| 19:01.52 | mcnugget | what the hack? |
| 19:01.53 | streuner_ | too late |
| 19:01.58 | engywook | mcnugget: su |
| 19:02.04 | mcnugget | doesn't help |
| 19:02.11 | mcnugget | same thing |
| 19:02.25 | mcnugget | I have debian sarge |
| 19:02.41 | Jacobo221 | when telnetting... wtf is the '^]' character? what combination should I type? |
| 19:02.45 | mcnugget | kernel 2.4.22 |
| 19:02.55 | LoRez | ~tell mcnugget about enter |
| 19:03.11 | LoRez | Jacobo221: ctrl ] |
| 19:03.40 | Jacobo221 | LoRez: nope |
| 19:03.46 | LoRez | Jacobo221: yes. |
| 19:03.49 | d666 | I can have more than one IP address attached to loopback device ? |
| 19:03.59 | mcnugget | any ideas for my misterious problem? |
| 19:04.00 | LoRez | d666: sure |
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| 19:04.40 | LoRez | mcnugget: make sure you don't have ^M's in your configure |
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| 19:04.56 | streuner_ | !bad interpreter |
| 19:04.57 | dpkg | bad-interpreter is, like, a wrong #! line in a script, or script is in crlf - which is the case, if 'od -b filename|grep 015' returns something; ask me about crlf->unix - or script is not executable (use chmod +x on it), or script is on a partition mounted with the noexec (mounting with "user" implies that) option. |
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| 19:05.09 | LoRez | mcnugget: don't /msg me |
| 19:05.17 | sgeigerbot | bob2: Where in menuconfig am I supposed to find the UML (user mode linux) options? |
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| 19:05.28 | LoRez | mcnugget: I SAID don't /msg me |
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| 19:05.48 | LoRez | damnit mcnugget stop |
| 19:06.09 | streuner_ | mcnugget: lass das |
| 19:06.22 | SuperPhly | Does anyone know of a good hard drive stress testing tool? I don't mean a cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdb, i mean a real stress tool |
| 19:07.07 | cafu | SuperPhly: gentoo |
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| 19:07.17 | Jacobo221 | LoRez: again, nope. try `telnet 147.83.41.10` |
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| 19:07.30 | LoRez | Jacobo221: it works fine here and has for years. fix your terminal |
| 19:07.32 | nvz | cafu: haha ;) |
| 19:07.39 | mcnugget | sorry LoRenz I did not read this msg here |
| 19:07.42 | engywook | When I try to start X it gives me this error: XIO fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. Any ideas? |
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| 19:08.27 | amphi | tefsom: sorry, I was away again - on my thinkpad I had to set gpm to use fups2 protocol to make it work properly, FWIW |
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| 19:09.38 | novice2 | hi all, is it possible to have 2 flavours of linux on one cd and boot a flavour of our choice ?? |
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| 19:09.55 | eeyore- | hmm, well, that didn't work out too well (2.4.24 + netfilter patch-o-matic + pptp masquerade) |
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| 19:10.12 | RichiH | novice2: sure, but i do not know of any disk that would have this |
| 19:10.13 | Jacobo221 | LoRez: right, thanx. It was a key-soft-locked |
| 19:10.33 | novice2 | i am trying to get 2 live cds on one cd..... |
| 19:10.34 | Tenkawa | can anyone point me in the right direction to the xfs cd install image? seems blade's site is all messed up and the image zip on there is password protected |
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| 19:11.01 | novice2 | RichiH: can you help me?? |
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| 19:11.28 | saptech | Hi, I'm ready to try compiling the 2.6.1 kernel and need some help |
| 19:11.30 | RichiH | novice2: sorry, i never did anything like that |
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| 19:12.00 | saptech | I've created the .deb package but think I didnt configure it the way I want |
| 19:12.01 | nvz | novice2: if you really want to do this, you should know how to find the proper packages and build your own. |
| 19:12.19 | novice2 | RichiH: I am thinking will it be posiible to boot into a grub prompt.... |
| 19:12.29 | saptech | if I do the command, dpkg -i kernel-image-2.4.20_10.00.Custom_i386.deb, will I have the chance to reconfigure the kernel before it installs? |
| 19:12.36 | novice2 | and then choose the flavour of our choice... |
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| 19:13.29 | RichiH | novice2: yes, that would surely work |
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| 19:13.48 | speakman- | Justin_: there? :) |
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| 19:14.33 | novice2 | RichiH: can I boot into a grub promt from the cd directly?? |
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| 19:15.08 | engywook | "X: warning; process set to priority -11 instead of requested priority -10" What does that mean? |
| 19:15.19 | engywook | or rather how do I fix it |
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| 19:15.50 | Gathond | engywook: why bother, if its -11 or -10 probably makes no noticable difference |
| 19:15.53 | nvz | novice2: I've told you if you want to do this you are going to have to do some research, dont harass RichiH he has already told you he doesnt know how to do it.. I am making one, but I havent started yet, because I have not finished reading up on it |
| 19:17.38 | engywook | Gathond: aiight. Just trying to fix X.=D |
| 19:17.47 | Jacobo221 | how can I make my box to powerdown when halting? |
| 19:18.02 | novice2 | nvz: well can you tell me what part to read?? |
| 19:18.23 | LoonaTick | Jacobo221: APM, i dont know how it works. |
| 19:18.28 | speakman- | greycat: will u plz help me with routing through openvpn? |
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| 19:18.43 | Jacobo221 | LoonaTick: but isn't APM for battery status, on laptops? |
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| 19:18.54 | barretj | hello |
| 19:19.01 | novice2 | nvz: I looked all over to see if there is any material on putting grub on the cd... |
| 19:19.06 | LoonaTick | its also for power off tru ATX orc |
| 19:19.08 | barretj | i am having a bit of trouble getting my mouse wheel to work in X |
| 19:19.09 | LoonaTick | iirc* |
| 19:19.21 | nonix4 | "The last linux machine in Niksula has finally retired. New firewall was taken online today." (niksula = biggest of the cs.hut.fi networks, looks like CS students have no need for Linux :-) |
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| 19:19.23 | eeyore- | Jacobo221: "modprobe apm" |
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| 19:19.45 | jp- | barretj, set the mouse protocol to IMPS/2 and set Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" |
| 19:19.51 | Jacobo221 | LoonaTick: what about apic? |
| 19:19.53 | barretj | jp-: i did that |
| 19:20.00 | jp- | barretj, did you set the protocol |
| 19:20.00 | PineDebi | how do i rn an rpm on woody rev.2? |
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| 19:20.14 | abrotman | alien |
| 19:20.17 | barretj | yes, i set it to IMPS/2 |
| 19:20.25 | nvz | novice2: download some of the related packages and learn how to use them (bootcd, bootcd-mkinitrd, busybox, cramfsprogs, debian-cd, initrd-tools, discover, mkinitrd-cd) |
| 19:20.26 | PineDebi | i found this program called roaring penguin |
| 19:20.26 | jp- | barretj, eh... good luck |
| 19:20.38 | Jacobo221 | eeyore-: if kernel is has builtin support for APM (I compiled it for so) won't the APM driver be mounted on startup? |
| 19:20.39 | PineDebi | and i'd liek to use to to connect using pppoe |
| 19:20.41 | eeyore- | Jacobo221: or, "modprobe apm power_off=1", maybe you need "realmode_power_off=1" as well |
| 19:20.47 | dondelelcaro | nonix4: not sane CS departments... |
| 19:20.53 | jp- | nonix4, our CS department pushes linux hard |
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| 19:21.00 | jp- | while the rest of campus is windows oriented |
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| 19:21.05 | abrotman | nonix4: the uni i went to ditched AIX for exchange ... |
| 19:21.07 | Jacobo221 | PineDebi: take a look at "alien" |
| 19:21.11 | jp- | all of work stations run linux + windows |
| 19:21.11 | novice2 | nvz: ok thanx |
| 19:21.15 | nvz | novice2: learn to research, nobody can do this for you, you just have a wild idea, and no clue about any of the steps to make it happen, nobody can solve that problem for you |
| 19:21.15 | PineDebi | ok |
| 19:21.22 | PineDebi | is there a manual for alien? |
| 19:21.23 | Jacobo221 | PineDebi: not recommended, though |
| 19:21.33 | Jacobo221 | PineDebi: yes, after installing the .deb |
| 19:21.33 | baz | perhaps I'm being stupid, but why doesn't apt-get install gnome actually work in sarge? |
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| 19:21.41 | PineDebi | where can i use it, or has anyone used ROARING PENGUIN? |
| 19:21.49 | abrotman | baz: the meta-pacakges isn't there |
| 19:21.50 | Jacobo221 | eeyore-: thanx, I'll take a look at the kernel Docs |
| 19:21.58 | barretj | its a usb mouse, which should be /dev/input/mice but when i set the device to /dev/input/mice, i get an error when i startx |
| 19:22.01 | LordSteff | hm. I have to use loadkeys command. to set the keyboard mapping correctly. the console reconfigure didnt work. I could execute the loadkeys command on boot, where should I place it? |
| 19:22.07 | Jacobo221 | PineDebi: what's that roaring thing? |
| 19:22.19 | PineDebi | the actual package name is |
| 19:22.20 | barretj | /dev/psaux works as the device though, but the wheel wont work |
| 19:22.22 | PineDebi | rp-pppoe |
| 19:22.33 | baz | abrotman: but all the parts are there, seems silly. what do we type to install gnome at the moment then? |
| 19:22.34 | Jacobo221 | PineDebi: what's it for? |
| 19:22.34 | PineDebi | http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/rp-pppoe/index.php |
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| 19:23.29 | Arti | I can put script with "loadkeys /usr/share.." into /etc/init.d, but where should the script be called? the rcX.d directories are probably wrong place |
| 19:23.31 | nonix4 | our CS network is now *bsd + solaris (ditched: linux, alpha/osf, sgi/*, ...); rest of the univ workstations are ~ 50/50 linux/windoze, all major servers are on commercial *IXes 'cept few that happen to be Linux |
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| 19:23.56 | engywook | When I try to start X it gives me this error: XIO fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. Any ideas? |
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| 19:24.08 | cafu | Arti: I edited /ect/sysconfig/keyboard |
| 19:24.14 | Jacobo221 | PineDebi: what are you willing to instal PPPoE for? |
| 19:24.24 | saptech | if I do the command, dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.1_10.00.Custom_i386.deb, will I have the chance to reconfigure the kernel before it installs? |
| 19:24.41 | Arti | hm |
| 19:24.44 | Arti | there is a KEYTABLE="de-latin1-nodeadkeys" |
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| 19:24.54 | baz | ok, I've found apt-get install gnome-core, apt-get install gnome and apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment on the lists. none of these are correct |
| 19:24.56 | Jacobo221 | PineDebi: aren't you connecting through router? |
| 19:24.58 | baz | this is silly |
| 19:25.06 | Arti | should be right, but doesnt work. keyboard is correct in kde, but not on other tty |
| 19:25.08 | abrotman | baz: i usually install gnome-session,gnome-panel,galeon,gdm |
| 19:25.14 | abrotman | also gnome-applets |
| 19:25.26 | baz | abrotman: sure, I thought there would be a way to avoid that though :) |
| 19:25.42 | abrotman | baz: theres a metapackage in sid .. but not in sarge .. dunno why |
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| 19:26.10 | baz | abrotman: didn't ajt say sarge was 2 weeks from release? this is shocking ;) thanks though |
| 19:26.13 | PineDebi | so i can connect to the internet |
| 19:26.19 | PineDebi | using my ethernet |
| 19:26.27 | abrotman | baz: 2 weeks? .. thats awful optimistic :) |
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| 19:26.35 | baz | abrotman: I'm sure I saw that in a recent dwn |
| 19:26.35 | mz | roooot has landed! |
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| 19:26.53 | nvz | mz: . |
| 19:26.56 | abrotman | baz: i think i saw that .. but are you sure it wasn't 2 months? |
| 19:26.59 | baz | can you filter lines by regexp in irssi? I'm so sick of that root has landed crap |
| 19:27.03 | baz | abrotman: no, not sure at all |
| 19:27.10 | PineDebi | nope |
| 19:27.17 | mz | nvz: ? |
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| 19:27.25 | PineDebi | i'm connected using a dsl modem |
| 19:27.31 | nvz | mz: just checking |
| 19:27.32 | PineDebi | using my ethernet |
| 19:27.51 | Jacobo221 | PineDebi: take a look at ftp://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/ to see if there's a deb package of PPPoE |
| 19:28.09 | PineDebi | there is |
| 19:28.12 | PineDebi | its called |
| 19:28.29 | PineDebi | the site you gave me doesn't work Jacobo221 :( |
| 19:28.29 | mz | nvz: k |
| 19:28.51 | nvz | mz: thought you were a bot, or a script |
| 19:29.07 | Rawplayer | where are the newest packages in ? |
| 19:29.07 | Jacobo221 | PineDebi: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/ |
| 19:29.09 | Rawplayer | testing or unstable ? |
| 19:29.11 | baz | Rawplayer: developer's sweaty hands |
| 19:29.18 | baz | Rawplayer: unstable |
| 19:29.27 | Rawplayer | k |
| 19:29.30 | PineDebi | thank you |
| 19:29.37 | Jacobo221 | PineDebi: you're wellcome |
| 19:29.40 | Rawplayer | i was to lazy to view on the website |
| 19:29.44 | Rawplayer | thnx baz :) |
| 19:29.46 | Rawplayer | xD |
| 19:30.03 | baz | Rawplayer: lazy people suck. I'd gang up on you all but I can't be bothered |
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| 19:30.45 | nvz | baz: I think you'd be out numbered, not that it would matter, since they are all lazy |
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| 19:31.12 | Rawplayer | no no |
| 19:31.15 | baz | nvz: the joke was that I couldn't be bothered and was hence amongst their ranks anyway. |
| 19:31.26 | baz | nvz: fsvo "joke" |
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| 19:31.35 | baz | I suck |
| 19:31.59 | PineDebi | there i see it |
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| 19:33.06 | PineDebi | ok so i found ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/r/rp-pppoe/ which is roaring penguins, but i have no idea how to install it or what packages i need, considering i can't even connect, tis the reason why i need rp-pppoe, wondering if someone could tell me what packages i need, hopefull the lates packages? |
| 19:33.11 | PineDebi | someone please help :) |
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| 19:33.48 | LoRez | PineDebi: apt-get install pppoe |
| 19:34.04 | nvz | depending on what it is you suck, might be able to make some money |
| 19:34.10 | PineDebi | but i can't connect to the internet using debian |
| 19:34.19 | PineDebi | thats why i need rp-pppoe |
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| 19:34.36 | LoRez | PineDebi: pppoe is rp-pppoe and should come on the netinst |
| 19:34.38 | PineDebi | so it wo't be able to ccess those files, woudl anyone know? |
| 19:34.40 | abrotman | PineDebi: did you try apt-get install rp-pppie? |
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| 19:34.54 | abrotman | oh .. not actually installed yet |
| 19:34.58 | PineDebi | oh, i just downloaded the first cd, would it have been installed? |
| 19:35.03 | xerophyte | To compile the 2.6.1 kernel what do i need to install its giving me lots of error messages |
| 19:35.12 | abrotman | PineDebi: it maybe on there |
| 19:35.22 | petemc | xerophyte: /topic |
| 19:35.22 | saloxin | xerophyte: module-init-tools |
| 19:35.23 | PineDebi | :( |
| 19:35.41 | abrotman | PineDebi: try apt-cache search pppoe |
| 19:35.56 | saloxin | PineDebi: pppoeconf can do marvels |
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| 19:37.25 | PineDebi | saloxin: pppoeconf doesn't work for me |
| 19:37.26 | xerophyte | petemc thx |
| 19:37.28 | nvz | xerophyte: I would do "apt-get install wget bzip2 build-essential kernel-package libncurses5-dev module-init-tools; cd /usr/src; wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.1.tar.bz2; tar jxvf linux-2.6.1.tar.bz2; cd linux-2.6.1; make-kpkg --config=menuconfig --rootcmd=fakeroot kernel_image" |
| 19:37.30 | PineDebi | hasn't worked at all:( |
| 19:37.36 | abrotman | PineDebi: any errors? |
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| 19:37.42 | PineDebi | yes |
| 19:37.46 | xerophyte | mvz thx |
| 19:37.55 | PineDebi | it said something about not being able to |
| 19:37.56 | abrotman | PineDebi: and the errors are? |
| 19:37.59 | PineDebi | one sec |
| 19:38.19 | Arti | hm is there a new virus out there? |
| 19:38.25 | xerophyte | If i can get the audio and video working under linux .. i can keep using linux otherwise need to switch to the windows :( |
| 19:38.26 | abrotman | the bagle virus |
| 19:38.30 | PineDebi | "sorry, i scanned 1 interfce(s) but the access concentrator of your provider did not respond...." |
| 19:38.36 | nvz | actually I think you would have to install fakeroot as well for that, because I dont think any of those depend on it |
| 19:38.41 | abrotman | xerophyte: what hardware is it? |
| 19:38.46 | greycat | it's a bugle virus. It plays taps. |
| 19:38.50 | Arti | Test =)xdsnqtycrkexltlrgfpm--Test, yep |
| 19:38.52 | Arti | is the content |
| 19:38.59 | baz | hmm, still in console mode at the moment, I'll come to X shortly. How do I set the keymap? |
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| 19:39.07 | Arti | of a mail I got |
| 19:39.08 | Arti | but probably using debian there is no problem for me? |
| 19:39.13 | nvz | xerophyte: its always better after you get a real kernel, those rescue kernels are just foor booting the maching initally |
| 19:39.15 | abrotman | baz: it sohuld ask you to set the keymap during install iirc |
| 19:39.29 | baz | abrotman: it did, it's wrong |
| 19:39.35 | abrotman | Arti: afaik .. its another outlook virus |
| 19:39.43 | xerophyte | nvz going to compile one |
| 19:39.47 | baz | abrotman: I chose British English throughout but I seem to have been given a US keymap |
| 19:40.03 | Althalus | is there a non-test release of 2.6 for Sarge available yet? |
| 19:40.07 | Arti | btw, anyone knows how big the chance is to get viruses on linux? |
| 19:40.14 | Althalus | as i'm only seeing -test11 |
| 19:40.17 | nvz | xerophyte: is this your first time? |
| 19:40.22 | abrotman | baz: well whats the difference? |
| 19:40.24 | baz | Arti: comparatively microscopic, but they do exist |
| 19:40.36 | baz | abrotman: no pound sign, for a start |
| 19:40.41 | abrotman | heh |
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| 19:40.50 | nvz | xerophyte: do you know a bit about your hardware and/or how to use lspci and dmesg? |
| 19:40.53 | baz | abrotman: plus " and @ are the "wrong" way around |
| 19:40.58 | baz | abrotman: or the @wrong@ way around ;) |
| 19:41.00 | abrotman | baz: does base-config ask you for that? |
| 19:41.11 | abrotman | or just tz info? |
| 19:41.19 | De_Mon | welp, i just installed debian on a testbead machine, dict DID accept connections and 'host localhost' was still looking at localhost.<domain>. meaning the problem with dictd *is* machine specific... |
| 19:41.33 | baz | abrotman: the tz is correct, hmm |
| 19:41.57 | xerophyte | abrotman, Video card : nVidia Corporation NV5M64 and sound card Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio |
| 19:42.07 | Althalus | baz: copy /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/uk.kmap.gz to /etc/console/bootime.kmap.gz and run /etc/init.d/keymap.sh |
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| 19:42.15 | xerophyte | nvz yup those are my hardware i need to get it working |
| 19:42.18 | abrotman | xerophyte: i have that almost same sound . works in 2.4.23 .. the nvidia is a bit trickier |
| 19:42.21 | Althalus | or are you talking about x? |
| 19:42.24 | baz | Althalus: copy, rather than symlink? thanks |
| 19:42.30 | grendal_prime | jesus...the fedora channel is like waiding through a room full of 3 year olds |
| 19:42.33 | baz | Althalus: no, not X - I know how to set it in X |
| 19:42.42 | nvz | xerophyte: well you need to know about ALL of your hardware when compiling, you cant just go in and set options for those two things and expect it to work |
| 19:42.45 | abrotman | we've got 4 year olds! |
| 19:42.52 | Althalus | k.. i've got a hardcopy there, symlink may/probably will work though :) |
| 19:42.54 | xerophyte | nvz i am not newbie to linux but i dont use match i always using windows but have some experince on the server side application like apache,email server, mysql and stuff not the desktop side :( |
| 19:43.11 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: yes, we indoctrinate children young in #debian... |
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| 19:43.30 | xerophyte | nvz true, i know someof the options |
| 19:43.36 | _DemonCat_ | anybody know of a general purpose storage system where you store data items and link them together |
| 19:43.37 | Althalus | so anyone.. release version of 2.6.0 for debian Sarge? :) |
| 19:43.40 | _DemonCat_ | then you can later perform searches? |
| 19:43.50 | grendal_prime | abrotman, hehehe...im trying to figur out what happend to an application..and people are asking about disk formatting? |
| 19:43.50 | xerophyte | abrotman, for the sound .. do i have driver with 2.6.1 or do i have to download |
| 19:43.55 | abrotman | Althalus: is it there now? .. last i checked it was like test11 |
| 19:43.55 | nvz | xerophyte: well good luck, I'd rather you /msg me if you are unsure than fuck it up and come in here after its already compiled |
| 19:44.04 | baz | Althalus: thanks |
| 19:44.05 | Arti | do you recommend clamav as virus scanner? |
| 19:44.06 | Althalus | abrotman thats what i'm asking ;) |
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| 19:44.10 | dondelelcaro | Althalus: Sarge will more than likely have 2.2, 2.4, but probably not 2.6. [Although it should be there unofficially.] |
| 19:44.11 | abrotman | xerophyte: i think i used the via driver |
| 19:44.11 | Althalus | baz worked? :) |
| 19:44.11 | grendal_prime | and "i cant get my fedora install to work!!!" |
| 19:44.14 | xerophyte | abrotman, how tricker is the Nvidia is i need to get the video working otherwise windows ;) |
| 19:44.16 | Arti | Or are there better ones |
| 19:44.23 | Arti | read something about norman anti virus recently |
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| 19:44.34 | xerophyte | abrotman, for the sound card |
| 19:44.41 | Althalus | dondelelcaro i'd actually disagree as sarge is still testing, and will almost certainly be released with 2.6. but hey ;) |
| 19:44.41 | abrotman | xerophyte: there are quite a few howtos listed on google |
| 19:44.45 | dondelelcaro | Althalus: 'course, if you want 2.6, go ahead and get it working with d-i. |
| 19:44.48 | baz | Althalus: seems to have worked, pound sign is still missing though which is odd. perhaps it's more to do with the fontmap. Don't I need to set pc101/pc105 keyb type somewhere? |
| 19:44.51 | xerophyte | abrotman, for that card |
| 19:44.55 | PhyreXian | X gives me a fatal error when I try to start it. Could somebody please take a look at my log at http://217.25.248.16/XFree86.0.log and see what's wrong? |
| 19:45.05 | xerophyte | nvz thx let me see ;) |
| 19:45.08 | abrotman | xerophyte: i tihnk it was via_somehitng .. but im not at home |
| 19:45.09 | Althalus | works here.. got an extended 104+err 'bout 30 windows keys keyboard.. |
| 19:45.10 | peter__ | anyone know hot to set keyboard map to uk? |
| 19:45.22 | baz | Althalus: yuck - IBM Model M here :D |
| 19:45.22 | dondelelcaro | Althalus: it will have 2.6 support, but it (currently) will not install using 2.6. |
| 19:45.40 | nvz | xerophyte: you should get an idea of what you need first.. check dmesg for the running kernel, see if it has APIC and stuff like that, and read up on that soundcard, as well as the nvidia how-tos |
| 19:45.46 | xerophyte | abrotman, thx i can try to find it |
| 19:45.53 | abrotman | xerophyte: you can try discover also |
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| 19:46.15 | abrotman | xerophyte: or the sarge installer .. supposedly more hardware detection than before |
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| 19:47.05 | nvz | I installed that 'contest' package last night I havent tried it yet, but its suppose to provide benchmark statistics for different kernels on a machine. |
| 19:47.10 | xerophyte | abrotman, i installed the sarge had lots of broken stuff so dont wanna try again dont have much time to fix stuff ;( |
| 19:47.17 | deadcat | does "export BROWSER=/usr/bin/dillo" work? so when i click on a link it uses dillo rather than firebird? |
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| 19:47.29 | Althalus | xerophyte when did you switch to sarge.. |
| 19:47.35 | Althalus | right after install, or months after? |
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| 19:50.08 | xerophyte | Althalus, i started my install today morning now i started at 8am and its 1pm .. first installed woody then changed the source.list to testing and dist-upgrade and installed gnome and all broken got uneasy so reinstall the woody and changed the source.list to untable .. so now i have sid i guess |
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| 19:51.20 | nvz | xerophyte: you are a regular genius.. already using unstable and havent even got a kernel setup, thats a solid, secure, well working system there I am sure.. you really know what you are doing |
| 19:51.20 | Althalus | hmm, i did mine yesterday, done install woody (VERY MINIMAL! - like 100MB!) done security update, done dist-update then started to add in what i need as i need it |
| 19:51.26 | Jacobo221 | where are rhe dosemu .deb packages? they aren't under /pool/main/d/dosemu/ |
| 19:51.28 | Althalus | i'm a minimalist - hate having things I Don't use. |
| 19:51.39 | deadcat | when i am running esd in the bg and try to "play file.wav", it waits. is it because its trying to play directly to /dev/dsp? any fix? my soundcard on the laptop is a maestro. |
| 19:51.44 | abrotman | xerophyte: if you have sid(bad idea for a newbie) why not just insatll kernel-image for 2.6 |
| 19:51.55 | abrotman | it can't make your problem any worse |
| 19:52.02 | abrotman | err .. wait .. yes it can |
| 19:52.08 | nwo | which pdf viewer can you recommend? |
| 19:52.18 | deadcat | xpdf |
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| 19:52.46 | nvz | I hate pdf's |
| 19:52.55 | xerophyte | abrotman, i am not newbie but i dont use the linux much .. and i have short memory .. other than else i am not newbie |
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| 19:53.05 | abrotman | xerophyte: i meant a debian newbie |
| 19:53.07 | nwo | nvz: do you prefer postscripts? |
| 19:53.08 | Jacobo221 | nwo: adobe has a linux acrobat reader |
| 19:53.20 | deadcat | does "export BROWSER=/usr/bin/dillo" work? so when i click on a link it uses dillo rather than firebird? |
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| 19:53.24 | nwo | Jacobo221: i know, but it sucks |
| 19:53.37 | jbl | hi there, I have a pb: ./a.out: error while loading shared libraries: ./a.out: undefined symbol: fopen, version GLIBC_2.1. It used to work, but all of a sudden, I get this error. Any ideas ? |
| 19:53.48 | nvz | nwo: I dont know what a postscript is, but I know a PDF and its anything but easy to navigate.. its about as big a PITA as those Microfilm machines |
| 19:53.48 | Arti | hm. /etc/rcX.d is probably only for starting/stopping services. where can I put simple commands which should be executed on boot? |
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| 19:54.03 | xerophyte | abrotman, if i tell you the truth i installed debian around 2 years before then i quit linux and didnt have the time .. after that i am here again .. when i was installing debian woody was unstable |
| 19:54.43 | asg | Arti: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh is one place (or create your own init scripts from /etc/init.d/skeleton) (and read /etc/init.d/README) |
| 19:54.47 | abrotman | xerophyte: i can tell your sound should work with 2.4 .. the nvidia requires a good chunk of work for acclerated X |
| 19:55.02 | nwo | nvz: thats exactly why I like to get a new pdf reader ... |
| 19:55.16 | xerophyte | abrotman, if the sound work that should not bore me to compile the nvidia lets see |
| 19:55.33 | abrotman | xerophyte: do you want hardware accel in X? |
| 19:55.35 | nvz | nwo: xpdf is pretty lightweight, I prefered it to adobe's viewer just because it was faster, and uncomplicated |
| 19:55.39 | nwo | nvz: but there are many documents I like to read which are only available in .pdf and .ps and sometimes .dvi or something like that |
| 19:56.06 | nvz | nwo: yeah I usually wing it, if I have to read a pdf.. I just say feck it and do it without the documentation |
| 19:56.11 | xerophyte | abrotman, if it there i want it .. you know what i mean .. and can i able to see movie which is encode in WMV something windows media stream .. |
| 19:56.31 | Althalus | brb, 2.6.0-test11 hopefully.. will go to 2.6.0 from there :| |
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| 19:56.35 | nwo | is there a good latex viewer? |
| 19:56.47 | abrotman | xerophyte: i think maybe mplayer does wmv .. but dont quote me on that |
| 19:57.02 | cafu | nwo: gv - ghostview |
| 19:57.04 | xerophyte | abrotman, going for lunch be right back |
| 19:57.24 | nvz | nwo: thing I dont like about it is that you can never get it zoomed in a way that you can see it, but not have to scroll and flip pages.. thats annoying to me |
| 19:57.29 | ClintZ28 | MPlayer does everything as far as I know..definately wmv |
| 19:57.34 | abrotman | is there a kernel config option for swap >2GB ? |
| 19:58.26 | nvz | speaking of media players.. how can I get xine to have more codecs? I have files that I had played on mplayer, that arent working with xine. |
| 19:58.29 | mcnugget | "libz... configure: error: not found. Check your installation and look into config.log" can someone help me with this? |
| 19:58.49 | abrotman | mcnugget: install zlib-dev maybe? |
| 19:59.11 | fusQuanto | i have two different 6in1 memory card readers, and i have a CF card and a SD card, but both of them only work with SD, they are diferent brands. anyone heard of anything like this or know what i could do? |
| 19:59.13 | mcnugget | let me check.... I search the web and deb.pakeges |
| 19:59.16 | nvz | I think I actually prefer xine now over mplayer.. but I havent figured out the codec problem, and I dont know how well xine does browser integration |
| 19:59.36 | mcnugget | efb: Couldn't find package zlib-dev |
| 19:59.39 | nwo | nvz: are there any seperate codecs for xine OR mplayer? I think its all hard coded |
| 19:59.48 | nvz | xine has a better playlist, and repeat shuffle functions |
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| 19:59.57 | stew | mcnugget: zlib1g-dev |
| 20:00.04 | abrotman | mcnugget: apt-cache search zlib |
| 20:00.10 | abrotman | or listen to stew |
| 20:00.10 | nvz | nwo: with mplayer I installed the w32codecs package, or compiled them from the site |
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| 20:00.28 | clint_ | dammit |
| 20:00.28 | mcnugget | installing |
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| 20:00.41 | nvz | nwo: I got some type of avi file that wont play with xine after I installed it.. so I figure I need more codecs for it |
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| 20:00.56 | mcnugget | apt-cache search zlib puts many many items.... I hope it works |
| 20:01.06 | petemc | nvz: if you have marillat sources apt-get install w32codecs |
| 20:01.09 | abrotman | mcnugget: its the one stew said i believe |
| 20:01.16 | De_Mon | nvz you ne... yeah that |
| 20:01.17 | MastaFlash | http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/207 it seem like linux security is falling behind ... |
| 20:01.29 | nvz | petemc: marillat moved I thought.. and do those codecs just work with xine as well? |
| 20:01.30 | n6tadam | I have a weird problem here. Login, only appears to work for the root user, with a message after the username saying "System bootup in progress - please wait". If Iuse root's username, the password: prompt apears, yet for another user it just hangs. Any ideas??? |
| 20:01.39 | nvz | De_Mon: ;) |
| 20:01.57 | petemc | nvz: marillat moved, yes - there's a factoid. the codecswork with both xine and mplayer |
| 20:02.08 | nvz | petemc: ok thanks. |
| 20:02.15 | MastaFlash | n most cases, open is best, because it produces the best results. |
| 20:02.15 | MastaFlash | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.15 | MastaFlash | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.16 | n6tadam | thomas_adam: hello. |
| 20:02.16 | nvz | I am going to walk up to my cousins house |
| 20:02.19 | stew | n6tadam: that means the /etc/init.d/rmnologin script hasn't run yet, probably becuase ond of the scripts in /etc/rc2.d didn't complete yet |
| 20:02.23 | mcnugget | stew can I /msg you? |
| 20:02.31 | n6tadam | stew: good point |
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| 20:02.59 | n6tadam | stew: altrhough that makes no sense, becasue I get to the login promp and can still login as root ok. |
| 20:03.04 | stew | n6tadam: i most recently had that happen becuase apache-ssl was waiting for a passphrase for a .pem |
| 20:03.11 | stew | n6tadam: yeah, root can always log in |
| 20:03.15 | stew | mcnugget: ok |
| 20:03.17 | n6tadam | stew: let me check then :) |
| 20:03.39 | matteo | Hi |
| 20:03.46 | stew | n6tadam: if you run /etc/init.d/rmnologin other user will be able to log in too, but that won't fix the root cause |
| 20:04.30 | n6tadam | stew: thanks, I'll telinit and see wqhat I can do. |
| 20:04.43 | PhyreXian | X gives me a fatal error when I try to start it. Could somebody please take a look at my log at http://217.25.248.16/XFree86.0.log and see what's wrong? |
| 20:04.50 | Arti | hm.. is iFrame the name of a new virus? |
| 20:05.19 | n6tadam | stew: no good. Same thing even after running that. Everything worked fine until the machibe was shutdown last night.... |
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| 20:05.38 | n6tadam | stew: nothing has been installed recently, either. |
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| 20:06.43 | coolnewbie | hi is there any util other than cron which can be used for scheduling i need to run a command once every 2 minutes |
| 20:06.53 | n6tadam | coolnewbie: at |
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| 20:07.00 | Arti | /home/steff/evolution/mail/pop/pop.gmx.net.... (my mail adress here) |
| 20:07.00 | Arti | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:07.01 | Althalus | there ... |
| 20:07.03 | n6tadam | coolnewbie: anacron? |
| 20:07.04 | Althalus | Linux dev 2.6.0-test11-1-386 #1 Mon Dec 8 21:12:20 EST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 20:07.05 | Althalus | :) |
| 20:07.09 | Arti | hm |
| 20:07.18 | stew | n6tadam: if you are seeing the bootup still in progress message, its becuase of the rmnologin not executing yet |
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| 20:08.04 | n6tadam | stew: I just ran that script...logged out as root, still no good. Same symptoms |
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| 20:09.00 | coolnewbie | n6tadam:i thougt anacron cannot be used to run jobs with intervals smaller than days |
| 20:10.04 | n6tadam | coolnewbie: every two mins? */2 * * * * user /my/command |
| 20:10.38 | coolnewbie | n6tadam:ok |
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| 20:11.00 | tefsom | amphi: are u there ? |
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| 20:11.34 | paulswm | coolnewbie: look at "at", you can start a job off and have it self schedule itself by queueing itself. Suggest you start a job off as "at> job &" so that the job will get adopted by init and free up the at slot. at jobs are great because they will survivei reboots, generally |
| 20:11.41 | vco | hi everyone, if i want to print from my linux machine to some windows machine sharing printer what should i look for? |
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| 20:12.20 | amphi | tefsom: I am, actualy |
| 20:12.21 | paulswm | coolnewbie: I see you can do it with anacron, though, o forget what I just said :) |
| 20:12.21 | thomas_adam | stew: thanks, fixed |
| 20:12.25 | amphi | *actually |
| 20:12.54 | Arti | hm |
| 20:12.58 | ohay | can someone help me? how do I change the default CHARSET for the system in debian? |
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| 20:13.33 | Arti | If a virus scanner finds an exploit/iFrame in a cache folder of evolution, then this probably only means that the mail send to me contains a virus, but not that my pc is infected? |
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| 20:13.47 | tefsom | amphi: well, have u tried links ? |
| 20:13.51 | Jacobo221 | what's the non-free librari that makes dosemu be in the contrib/ directory? |
| 20:14.05 | amphi | tefsom: no, it's still sleeping in its tarball |
| 20:14.12 | amphi | tefsom: have you? |
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| 20:14.19 | tipid | hey everyone |
| 20:14.32 | tefsom | amphi: eh eh ok amphi if i'm in X it works typing links -g www.mysite.com |
| 20:14.56 | tefsom | but if i am in console it returns me "Can't open display "(null)" |
| 20:15.04 | tefsom | amphi: what do u think about ? |
| 20:15.16 | amphi | tefsom: it's pining for X |
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| 20:15.41 | _DemonCat_ | anybody know of software that stores data like a dictionary and you can add/delete/change entries on the fly? |
| 20:15.46 | tefsom | amphi: i thought the same but .... my porpouse is to use links in console |
| 20:15.52 | tefsom | so .... X will never be here |
| 20:16.00 | sgeigerbot | ohay: are you sure you mean "charset"? |
| 20:16.40 | abrotman | anyone know how to change the limit on the swap size in the kernel config? |
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| 20:16.40 | amphi | tefsom: did you build it right? |
| 20:16.40 | sgeigerbot | ohay: what are you trying to do? |
| 20:16.40 | row | Hey is BIND9 in unstabled chrooted by default? |
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| 20:16.41 | tefsom | amphi: sure |
| 20:16.41 | amphi | tefsom: the one I got is links-2.1pre14 |
| 20:16.47 | tefsom | me too |
| 20:16.48 | sgeigerbot | row: I don't think anything is chrooted by default. |
| 20:16.51 | saptech | when I do a apt-cache search for the 2.6.0 image, I don't see one for AMD Athlon, only for AMD K7, does it make a difference? |
| 20:17.00 | greycat | sgeigerbot: openbsd's httpd is |
| 20:17.10 | greycat | sgeigerbot: and openbsd's bind, to |
| 20:17.11 | greycat | o |
| 20:17.23 | amphi | tefsom: did you try compiling it without X support? |
| 20:17.32 | ohay | sgeigerbot: I'm not able to use accentuated charaters in XChat |
| 20:18.02 | row | bind9 cant open files that are linked in the named.conf when using named-checkconf, anyone heard of this problem, ie named.conf:9: open: /etc/bind/named.conf.options: file not found |
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| 20:18.17 | tefsom | amphi: i've done ./configure --enable-graphics --enable-javascript --enable-gpm |
| 20:18.23 | abrotman | saptech: K7 is athlon |
| 20:18.45 | saptech | ok |
| 20:18.57 | saptech | thanks, so its like a i686? |
| 20:19.06 | abrotman | saptech: do you have an athlon? |
| 20:19.14 | saptech | yes |
| 20:19.19 | saptech | amd xp 1700 |
| 20:19.19 | sgeigerbot | ohay: easy way for occasional use: use kcharselect.. |
| 20:19.20 | abrotman | i686 is Intel P3+ |
| 20:19.26 | abrotman | K7 is for Athlon |
| 20:19.39 | ohay | sgeigerbot: I read the XChat FAQ, but it covered XChat 2.x, and mine is the stable version from debian (1.8.9), which doesn't have all the options in the FAQ |
| 20:19.41 | abrotman | err 686 is P2+ i guess |
| 20:19.42 | saptech | ok, thnx...I got confused with that |
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| 20:19.48 | row | Anyone have anyideas about bind9 then? |
| 20:19.54 | abrotman | saptech: if super cnfused .. go with 386 |
| 20:19.55 | greycat | 686 is pentium pro and higher |
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| 20:19.58 | saptech | p3+ i believe |
| 20:20.11 | abrotman | ~greycatsnack |
| 20:20.14 | | hey greycat, here's a cookie for all the hard work |
| 20:20.14 | abrotman | greycat is right |
| 20:20.16 | saptech | well I kno I have athlon |
| 20:20.23 | saptech | so if k7 is it then thnx |
| 20:20.32 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: "greycat is right" is redundant. |
| 20:20.34 | amphi | tefsom: I'm trying it now |
| 20:20.45 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: i meant to direct that at saptech |
| 20:21.01 | abrotman | any kernel config options about swap parition limits? |
| 20:21.07 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: I mean, greycat is always right. |
| 20:21.15 | ohay | sgeigerbot: the thing is that other apps like word-processors in KDE or Gnome work fine. It seems that my version of XChat uses system defaults |
| 20:21.15 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: yes .. he is |
| 20:21.18 | sgeigerbot | ...or at least nobody here knows better. |
| 20:21.18 | saptech | I'm trying to install the 2.6 kernel on Sid, a fresh install |
| 20:21.19 | abrotman | almost always |
| 20:21.24 | saptech | any pointers? |
| 20:21.24 | dms | hm, what is 'experimental' branch of debian? i thought only stable, testing and unstable existed. |
| 20:21.26 | tefsom | amphi: ok tell me if it works correctly.... remember to install all the needed libraries |
| 20:21.27 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: hes more reliable than the mail |
| 20:21.39 | amphi | tefsom: which? |
| 20:21.47 | abrotman | dms: imagine stuff to unstable to go in unstable :) |
| 20:21.54 | sgeigerbot | ...well, maybe he's human. |
| 20:22.05 | abrotman | err too |
| 20:22.19 | tefsom | amphi: read from the url u gave to me |
| 20:22.20 | abrotman | dms: it actually works ok .. i use the XF4.3 from there |
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| 20:23.06 | jvh_ | How 2 install a program not supported by apt-get ? |
| 20:23.13 | t|zz | anybody knows how to install unreal tournament, with the windows-cd? i can install it with the linuxinstaller, but if i launch, the error i get is: Couldn't run Unreal Tournament (ut-bin). Is UT_DATA_PATH set? |
| 20:23.25 | Arti | hm download and unpack. |
| 20:23.27 | dms | abrotman: shouldn't all the newest packages go to unstable? |
| 20:23.34 | Arti | is it distributed as source? |
| 20:23.36 | abrotman | dms: thats not for me to decide |
| 20:23.40 | amphi | tefsom: it's building - did it show you svgalib and/or fb after you ran configure? |
| 20:24.23 | jvh_ | Arti - and when i "wish" it ? |
| 20:24.30 | Arti | wish? |
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| 20:24.55 | Arti | simple windowing shell hm |
| 20:24.57 | tefsom | amphi: you can configure it with or without X |
| 20:24.58 | jvh_ | Arti - ./amsn for example ? |
| 20:24.58 | Arti | didnt use it |
| 20:25.13 | tefsom | i've read now in ./configure --help |
| 20:25.35 | Arti | hm currently don't know what you're talking about ;) |
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| 20:25.51 | Arti | new to linux too. but I've installed some programs not available with apt |
| 20:26.11 | saptech | abrotman: Install a boot block using the existing /etc/lilo.conf? I have dual boot setup with XP using Lilo, which one should I choose? |
| 20:26.15 | Arti | some just unpacked and copied to right placed, some with ./configure and "make" + "make install" |
| 20:26.22 | jvh_ | Arti - When i finished unpacking the file.. i'll have to "run" it in some way |
| 20:26.27 | abrotman | who knew . theres a 2GB swap partition size limit .. you'd think they would tell you that when you make a 4GB swap parition |
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| 20:26.39 | abrotman | saptech: did you use lilo before? |
| 20:26.43 | saptech | yes |
| 20:26.48 | Arti | when its in source, then you have to run "./configure" "make" and "make install" |
| 20:26.52 | abrotman | saptech: and its configured to boot linux and windows? |
| 20:26.59 | saptech | correct |
| 20:27.08 | saptech | lilo in mbr |
| 20:27.09 | abrotman | then i dont see why not |
| 20:27.14 | amphi | tefsom: yeah, works here with svgalib no probs - mouse leaps around a bit |
| 20:27.15 | toot | how do i see what files a package has installed plz? |
| 20:27.17 | abrotman | i haven't done a 2.6 yet thuogh |
| 20:27.25 | amphi | tefsom: and the cursor is gigantic :) |
| 20:27.26 | De_Mon | toot dpkg -L <package> |
| 20:27.35 | abrotman | toot: dpkg -S pkgname |
| 20:27.38 | saptech | it say if i have another os then dont isntall to boot block now |
| 20:27.40 | tipid | has anyone used Phex?] |
| 20:27.40 | saptech | thanks |
| 20:27.43 | jvh_ | Arti - this i didnt knew..interesting...hmm.. Take amsn for example.. i have unpacked it into /home/jvh/msn |
| 20:27.54 | abrotman | err -L is right |
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| 20:27.58 | toot | thanks De_Mon |
| 20:27.58 | tefsom | amphi: how did you configure it ? |
| 20:28.00 | jvh_ | Arti - Then i should ./configure ? |
| 20:28.09 | toot | anyone tell me why when i do apt-get install postgres-dev does it try to remove postgresql ? :) |
| 20:28.09 | petemc | ~castrate toot |
| 20:28.14 | | toot: say AAAAAAAAAAAARRGGH! |
| 20:28.14 | De_Mon | abrotman -S is search not (-L)ist |
| 20:28.17 | Arti | hm go to the directory |
| 20:28.19 | toot | hehe bite me petemc |
| 20:28.20 | deadcat | usb wireless mouse is just usbmouse right? |
| 20:28.21 | petemc | toot: yo |
| 20:28.24 | Arti | in console |
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| 20:28.26 | abrotman | De_Mon: yep .. i get them confused sometimes |
| 20:28.37 | Arti | and try ./configure |
| 20:28.41 | De_Mon | abrotman i had to double check to make sure i was right :) |
| 20:28.41 | amphi | tefsom: /configure --disable-nls --without-x --enable-graphics |
| 20:28.45 | saptech | dag this kinda confusing, do I want to wipe old lilo.config and make new one? |
| 20:28.48 | jvh_ | Arti - it says: "no such file or directory" |
| 20:29.07 | abrotman | saptech: you can .. but make sure its right before you reboot :) |
| 20:29.27 | saptech | and add old kernel and windows section? |
| 20:29.30 | abrotman | really .. why does 2.4 limit you to 2GB swap .. thats kind of annoying |
| 20:29.49 | tefsom | amphi: it returns me :configure : error No graphics driver found |
| 20:29.56 | Arti | hm |
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| 20:29.59 | Arti | query |
| 20:30.08 | tefsom | amphi: No graphic drivers found |
| 20:30.22 | amphi | tefsom: you have the svgalib headers? |
| 20:30.26 | abrotman | anyone know if i can redo my swap partitions while running? |
| 20:30.32 | amphi | tefsom: works with fb here too, BTW |
| 20:30.39 | greycat | abrotman: swapoff, mkswap, swapon |
| 20:30.55 | amphi | tefsom: it doesn't understand stylesheets though |
| 20:30.57 | abrotman | greycat: well .. i figured . might as well try it .. no data on the thing anyways :) |
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| 20:31.25 | tefsom | amphi: mmmm i've the headers u asked me for |
| 20:31.42 | jredburn | Anyone know of a utility to watch a group of files and notify me when any of them changes? (I'm looking to figure out what's happening during a GUI install) |
| 20:31.48 | saptech | hmmm, it went kinda fast |
| 20:32.02 | prajm | do someone have a idea of where the hell gblic 2.3.2 is placed in a deb package ? |
| 20:32.06 | saptech | well it seems I have the new 2.6 kernel in place, but didn't make changes to lilo, I still have old one |
| 20:32.17 | baz | anyone got nvidia-kernel working under sarge? |
| 20:32.22 | mcnugget | checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! |
| 20:32.22 | mcnugget | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.27 | baz | I get errors when I run make |
| 20:32.28 | sloopy_ | when i start X from a shell my mouse runs fine but when i start gdm it wont move... how do i fix this? |
| 20:32.33 | De_Mon | jredburn man watch |
| 20:32.49 | saptech | I need to edit lilo and new kernel, adjust for the old kernel, but I didn't get chance to modify new kernel |
| 20:33.00 | amphi | tefsom: dunno, worked here |
| 20:33.04 | jredburn | De_Mon: i thought watch executed a program occasionally ... |
| 20:33.19 | amphi | tefsom: it's not bad at all |
| 20:33.28 | tefsom | amphi: have u installed svgalib from apt-get ? |
| 20:33.29 | petemc | saptech: didnt get a chance? |
| 20:33.46 | xinud | llo |
| 20:33.57 | abrotman | well thats not gonna work .. i have 4 primaries .. and can't seem to make a logical |
| 20:34.04 | saptech | correct, when I apt-get the 2.6 image, it asked a few questions about lilo and placed kernel in /boot |
| 20:34.05 | baz | no nvidia users at all? gah |
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| 20:34.26 | saptech | I told it not to delete old lilo.config |
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| 20:34.39 | amphi | tefsom: yes, and the svgalib dev package - I mess around writing svgalib progs sometimes |
| 20:34.42 | saptech | I mean I didn't have chance to do make menuconfig |
| 20:34.43 | De_Mon | jredburn it does |
| 20:34.54 | xinud | pcmcia_core loads but i82365 is not possible to load (sid) kernel 2.4.24 CONFIG_PCMCIA=no , any help |
| 20:35.14 | xinud | on a ibm thinkpad R40 |
| 20:35.29 | tefsom | amphi: svgalibg1-dev ? |
| 20:35.39 | amphi | tefsom: sounds like it |
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| 20:36.20 | tefsom | mmmm i've installed the same |
| 20:36.24 | tefsom | it's strange |
| 20:36.37 | amphi | tefsom: just checked, that's what I have installed |
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| 20:37.36 | baz | okay, if nobody can help with nvidia where do I file a bug? |
| 20:37.37 | t|zz | nowbody knows if there's a possibility to install ut2003 on linux? |
| 20:37.48 | baz | t|zz, sure is, don't think it's in debian though |
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| 20:38.28 | t|zz | baz: no it's not, but maybe i'd find help in here, thes was what i though |
| 20:38.51 | baz | t|zz, should just be an installer |
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| 20:40.28 | baz | t|zz: don't suppose you have an nvidia card? |
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| 20:41.42 | tefsom | amphi: ....... |
| 20:41.44 | tefsom | dunno |
| 20:42.08 | prajm | is there any possible way to check if i have old pthread headers ? :/ |
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| 20:43.07 | greycat | !info cruft |
| 20:43.10 | dpkg | cruft: (Find any cruft built up on your system), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.9.6-0.4 (sid), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 636 kB |
| 20:43.10 | tefsom | amphi: Pls can tell me what packages about svgalib have u installed exactly ? |
| 20:43.20 | baz | abrotman: having even less fun now, nvidia won't compile under sarge it seems |
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| 20:43.31 | baz | abrotman: 2 months isn't even likely now imho :) |
| 20:43.55 | abrotman | baz: well thats not good |
| 20:44.19 | rellik | what's wrong with this crontab entry: (it doesn |
| 20:44.24 | baz | abrotman: heh, I get a weird make error. and apparently none of the 644 other people in here have nvidia. not my day eh |
| 20:44.32 | rellik | (it doesn't appear to do anything)41 14 * * * mpg123 /shared/music/ |
| 20:44.57 | baz | rellik: path to mpg123 |
| 20:45.01 | greycat | rellik: does it mail you an error? does mpg123 accept directory names? |
| 20:45.01 | abrotman | baz: pleny of people have it .. |
| 20:45.07 | abrotman | baz: whats the error |
| 20:45.20 | wcs_ | baz, whats there error? |
| 20:45.26 | abrotman | baz: theres also a #nvidia |
| 20:45.30 | baz | nv.c: At top level: |
| 20:45.31 | baz | nv.c:41: error: storage size of `nv_bottom_halves' isn't known |
| 20:45.31 | baz | make: *** [nv.o] Error 1 |
| 20:45.51 | baz | abrotman: yeah, they're just as much use ;) |
| 20:45.54 | saloxin | baz: make clean? |
| 20:46.08 | baz | saloxin: makes no difference |
| 20:46.20 | baz | saloxin: I rm'd the lot and untarred again, no joy |
| 20:46.22 | wcs_ | baz, what version of the driver? |
| 20:46.30 | wcs_ | baz and what kernel version? |
| 20:46.32 | baz | wcs_: whatever's current in sarge |
| 20:46.40 | baz | wcs_: 2.4.23-1-386 |
| 20:46.42 | amphi | tefsom: strewth, links has allocated 22 MB memory for itself :) |
| 20:46.59 | baz | nvidia is v1.0.4496 |
| 20:47.05 | amphi | tefsom: the same as you - the dev package you mentioned and its corresponding lib package |
| 20:47.11 | abrotman | baz: maybe /msg apt listkeys nvidia |
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| 20:47.16 | abrotman | baz: maybe one of those can help you |
| 20:47.25 | baz | abrotman: thanks |
| 20:47.57 | amphi | tefsom: at least I can reassure that it works :) |
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| 20:51.05 | xai | Is there a pseudo package for kernel rolling? |
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| 20:51.06 | teclo | Greetings. How do I redo the network configuration ? dpkg-reconfigure ... what ? |
| 20:51.07 | greycat | xai: kernel-package |
| 20:51.07 | greycat | teclo: man interfaces |
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| 20:51.07 | teclo | greycat: thank you |
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| 20:51.20 | teclo | I could just copy /etc/network/interfaces from another box and change the ip address |
| 20:51.30 | zof | someone know how to install nvidia drivers without recompil kernel on debian sarge netinstall ? |
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| 20:51.50 | greycat | teclo: you may want to get /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts also |
| 20:51.55 | AbsolutHam | i'm a annoyed windows xp user, and i think i found a way to put my old harddrive with ME back in and install it as slave. problem, if i should succeed in that venture, what do i do next to install debian. Remeber, i have no experience whatsoever with command line |
| 20:52.02 | teclo | greycat: correct |
| 20:52.09 | teclo | greycat: and /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 20:52.16 | teclo | greycat: oops no that's for HPUX only |
| 20:52.17 | teclo | heh |
| 20:52.29 | xai | greycat: is it ok to use gcc 3.3 for 2.4 kernels now? |
| 20:52.29 | greycat | teclo: no, debian also has nsswitch.conf |
| 20:52.37 | nvz | AbsolutHam: what? you want to wipe a hd and install debian? |
| 20:52.38 | greycat | teclo: but it's unlikely you'd have changed it |
| 20:52.46 | greycat | xai: as of 2.4.21, I believe |
| 20:53.15 | AbsolutHam | ya |
| 20:53.19 | greycat | AbsolutHam: install debian on the second drive, and at the end of the first part, put LILO in the MBR of the first drive |
| 20:53.23 | wcs_ | AbsolutHam pick a different distro, I know this will piss people off, but debian is not there for people just starting off. Now if you have someone else to install it and get X working for you you should be ok |
| 20:53.25 | AbsolutHam | i have a 20gb HD i don't need |
| 20:53.38 | AbsolutHam | and an 80gb master drive |
| 20:53.40 | AbsolutHam | xp on master |
| 20:53.51 | amphi | tefsom: perhaps it uses the X driver by default - did you try specifying -driver svgalib ? |
| 20:54.05 | abrotman | greycat: is there an fs type for swap .. or just mkfs? |
| 20:54.06 | AbsolutHam | though i might wipe the old one, seeing as i don't need any of the files on it |
| 20:54.07 | tefsom | amphi: no i'll try now |
| 20:54.12 | nvz | AbsolutHam: I am with greycats suggestion. leave XP where it is, install lilo on the MBR of that drive. |
| 20:54.24 | AbsolutHam | ????? |
| 20:54.25 | wcs_ | abrotman mkswap |
| 20:54.25 | tefsom | amphi: -driver ?? |
| 20:54.33 | amphi | tefsom: I'm just rebuilding with X support to test |
| 20:54.35 | fusQuanto | i have two different 6in1 memory card readers, and i have a CF card and a SD card, but both of them only work with SD, they are diferent brands. anyone heard of anything like this or know what i could do? |
| 20:54.46 | abrotman | wcs_: thanks |
| 20:54.55 | amphi | tefsom: ./links --help |
| 20:54.59 | wcs_ | abrotman np |
| 20:55.08 | tefsom | amphi: how to specify the driver ? |
| 20:55.13 | amphi | tefsom: ./links --help |
| 20:55.19 | coolnewbie | is there nay way to know whether a purticular port is blocked by isp |
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| 20:55.24 | amphi | tefsom: I mean at runtime |
| 20:55.25 | abrotman | well .. i think that killed the box |
| 20:55.27 | tefsom | amphi: i've not ./links |
| 20:55.33 | tefsom | uh ok |
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| 20:55.45 | wcs_ | coolnewbie There are a few. |
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| 20:56.01 | wcs_ | coolnewbie what exactly is the problem? |
| 20:56.32 | abrotman | dumb question perhaps .. can swap not be on a logical partition? |
| 20:56.47 | amphi | abrotman: it can be |
| 20:56.53 | coolnewbie | wcs:how |
| 20:57.11 | wcs_ | coolnewbie nmap every hop along the way |
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| 20:57.23 | amphi | abrotman: if I parsed that correctly, ie can it be on a primary partition |
| 20:57.23 | wcs_ | until you find the one that marks the ports as filtered |
| 20:57.32 | coolnewbie | wcs:how do i do that |
| 20:57.35 | wcs_ | coolnewbie what port? |
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| 20:57.42 | wcs_ | coolnewbie man nmap |
| 20:57.43 | coolnewbie | wcs:port:80 |
| 20:57.54 | abrotman | amphi: i want it on a logical partition |
| 20:57.58 | wcs_ | coolnewbie ok, whats your isp? |
| 20:58.17 | coolnewbie | wcs:vsnl |
| 20:58.31 | thomas_adam | coolnewbie: that cron thing sorted ok? |
| 20:58.43 | amphi | abrotman: that works fine |
| 20:58.57 | abrotman | amphi: it wont reread the partition table |
| 20:58.58 | coolnewbie | thomas_adam:no |
| 20:59.05 | abrotman | so we'll see what happens |
| 20:59.06 | amphi | abrotman: my swap is on /dev/hda9 |
| 20:59.09 | thomas_adam | coolnewbie: why? |
| 20:59.38 | coolnewbie | thomas_adam:i tried anacron but dont know where to edit |
| 20:59.40 | tefsom | amphi: it returns me : the following graphics drivers are supported: x |
| 20:59.45 | tefsom | stop |
| 20:59.47 | thomas_adam | coolnewbie: crontab -e |
| 20:59.52 | coolnewbie | thomas_adam:is it anacrontab |
| 20:59.59 | thomas_adam | coolnewbie: */2 * * * * root /some_program |
| 21:00.04 | thomas_adam | coolnewbie: for every two mins |
| 21:00.21 | amphi | tefsom: hmm... |
| 21:00.25 | Vyrus001 | anybody ever herd of an mpc file and can it be played with xmms |
| 21:00.33 | wcs_ | coolnewbie, have you tried calling them or reading there TOS, have you tried running it on a different port |
| 21:00.35 | amphi | tefsom: did you try --with-svgalib ? |
| 21:00.36 | coolnewbie | thomas_adam:will crontab -e configure anacron |
| 21:00.36 | greycat | thomas_adam: you don't put the username in the crontab -e file |
| 21:00.39 | streuner_ | Vyrus001: of course |
| 21:00.48 | amphi | tefsom: you have the dev package installed? |
| 21:00.50 | thomas_adam | greycat: opps, you're right. |
| 21:01.04 | Xenguy | I want to use 'find' to search recursively and then hand-off to xargs, but I want to exclude 1 subdirectory (as it contains filenames with spaces, which is causing problems). Is there something better than '-prune' (which I can't seem to find the correct syntax for anyway) ? |
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| 21:01.28 | streuner_ | Vyrus001: google for, it's not in debian |
| 21:01.28 | amphi | tefsom: I just built with this: ./configure --disable-nls --enable-javascript --enable-graphics |
| 21:01.32 | coolnewbie | wcs_:no |
| 21:01.51 | amphi | tefsom: ./links -g starts it up with the svgalib driver automatically |
| 21:01.53 | coolnewbie | wcs_:is there any other way to know that |
| 21:02.01 | Vyrus001 | streuner_: i only found stuff for windows... lol i just thought some debian person might now |
| 21:02.02 | Vyrus001 | :P |
| 21:02.10 | tefsom | amphi: i have all dev packages |
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| 21:02.19 | wcs_ | coolnewbie Well, it is hard to tell like I said you can read up on nmap. |
| 21:02.21 | coolnewbie | wcs_:ok let me try nmap |
| 21:02.21 | abrotman | i wonder if 2.6 has the same 2GB swap limitation |
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| 21:02.42 | greycat | Xenguy: hmm, an example of -prune would've been a cool thing to put in the docs.... |
| 21:02.45 | coolnewbie | wcs_:thanks |
| 21:02.52 | streuner_ | Vyrus001: the side which usually has the plugin is down, but there should be an other... |
| 21:02.54 | wcs_ | coolnewbie but really the easiest way to figure out for sure if it is your isp. is to call them or reas there documents |
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| 21:03.15 | coolnewbie | wcs_:ok |
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| 21:03.27 | Xenguy | greycat: I've tried a few iterations, but haven't yet found the silver bullet |
| 21:03.34 | greycat | Xenguy: there's actually an example for it in the info page, but not in the man page (nor in my proposed/rejected man page patch) |
| 21:03.35 | coolnewbie | thomas_adam:will crontab -e configure anacron |
| 21:03.44 | tefsom | amphi: what can u see after ./configure in the box ? |
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| 21:03.54 | Xenguy | greycat: tx - I'll check info then |
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| 21:03.59 | mz | roooot has landed! |
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| 21:04.13 | tefsom | you can read all informations about your configuration |
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| 21:04.22 | Vyrus001 | streuner_: which site is that |
| 21:04.23 | Vyrus001 | ?? |
| 21:04.23 | dc5sd | Xenguy: thanx for the help yesterday :) |
| 21:04.34 | tefsom | pls can tell me what can u see as Graphics Drivers ? pls |
| 21:05.00 | Vilim | I have all of the debs for Xfree 4.3 in a directory, should I just use dpkg -i * to install them or make it an apt source? |
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| 21:05.14 | amphi | tefsom: IIRC svgalib on fb on x on gpm on |
| 21:05.20 | Xenguy | dc5sd: yer welcome |
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| 21:06.10 | tefsom | amphi: mmmmmm |
| 21:06.15 | streuner_ | Vyrus001: http://www.musepack-source.de/downloads/linux/plugins/xmms-0.94.zip |
| 21:06.15 | Althalus | Anyone know if there is DRI support (anywhere) for Kyro based Hercules cards (Prophet) |
| 21:06.20 | amphi | tefsom: kuro5hin looks well in it |
| 21:06.21 | gboutwel | Has someone out there gotten a vanilla 2.6.1 kernel to buld and boot using make-kpkg? |
| 21:06.24 | tefsom | amphi: i've only X |
| 21:06.35 | abrotman | Althalus: nothing on xfree.org? |
| 21:06.42 | tefsom | amphi: what is kuro5hin ? |
| 21:07.00 | abrotman | tefsom: like slashdot .. but more liberal imo |
| 21:07.20 | ale_ | mabie isn't the best place to ask it: there ist conio.h library under linux? |
| 21:07.22 | tefsom | ok |
| 21:07.29 | tefsom | it's very strange really |
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| 21:07.37 | abrotman | ale_: no .. thats a dos thing .. borland iirc |
| 21:07.39 | amphi | tefsom: just a site - kuro5hin.org |
| 21:07.42 | greycat | ale_: no, there isn't. Try learning curses instead. |
| 21:07.42 | wcs_ | Althalus did you goto dri.sf.net |
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| 21:07.48 | wcs_ | Althalus and click on status |
| 21:08.00 | abrotman | wcs_: last i checked .. that stuff was out of dat |
| 21:08.01 | abrotman | e |
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| 21:08.09 | amphi | tefsom: I don't understand why it's not working there |
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| 21:08.15 | xinud | when i compiling pcmcia modules "/usr/src/linux/include/asm/system.h:190: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules |
| 21:08.15 | xinud | " this one roles over my screen |
| 21:08.18 | Althalus | wcs_ not yet ;) |
| 21:08.19 | ale_ | greycat, what? |
| 21:08.21 | deadcat | usb wireless mouse is just usbmouse right? |
| 21:08.30 | uws | I suppose so |
| 21:08.32 | amphi | tefsom: I must become quiescent now |
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| 21:08.50 | wcs_ | Althalus well that could be a good place to start :) |
| 21:08.52 | abrotman | ale_: its a library that does roughly the same thing as conio.h .. ncurses |
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| 21:08.56 | dc5sd | Xenguy: how do i upgrade to the latest version of Xfree86 |
| 21:08.59 | tefsom | amphi: my last question is : can u paste me the name of svga packages you have installed, if u can |
| 21:09.16 | dc5sd | Xenguy: my monitor went haywire after i did the configurations yesterday |
| 21:09.16 | gboutwel | Are there any channels for discussing DEBIANIZED kernel builds? |
| 21:09.26 | ale_ | abrotman, ah thanks... |
| 21:09.31 | gboutwel | ls |
| 21:09.40 | greycat | gboutwel: you mean 'make-kpkg --revision=custom.1 kernel_image'? |
| 21:09.45 | Althalus | wcs_ i've looked on both that and xfree.org and can't even find REFERENCE to Hercules, let alone support :P |
| 21:09.53 | abrotman | Althalus: what chipset is it? |
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| 21:09.55 | gboutwel | greycat: Yes. |
| 21:10.02 | Althalus | Kyro 2 |
| 21:10.11 | Althalus | i've also got a Kyro 1 here too |
| 21:10.12 | saloxin | Althalus: what chip is on the card? lscpi say anything? |
| 21:10.15 | ale_ | abrotman, the last questio stdio.h library is the same? |
| 21:10.17 | abrotman | Althalus: but who makes the chip? .. nvidia, ati ? |
| 21:10.18 | Xenguy | dc5sd: ask the channel, as I am at work right now, and kinda swamped :-) |
| 21:10.25 | abrotman | ale_: yes .. that should work for you |
| 21:10.27 | wcs_ | Althalus well then I guess there is no 3d support |
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| 21:10.41 | wcs_ | Althalus i suggest usign the vesa drivers :) |
| 21:10.45 | Althalus | 01:03.0 VGA compatible controller: STMicroelectronics STG4000 [3D Prophet Kyro Series] (rev 01) |
| 21:10.47 | dc5sd | Xenguy: oh sorry, take care Xenguy, hope u get unswamped soon :-P |
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| 21:11.03 | Xenguy | me too ;-) |
| 21:11.10 | dc5sd | hehe |
| 21:11.32 | dc5sd | i have a nvidia geforce 2 gts card and a cornerstone p2460 monitor |
| 21:11.41 | dc5sd | after i did the configs for xwindows |
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| 21:11.46 | dc5sd | my monitor went haywire |
| 21:12.12 | jvh_ | Anyone know the command for danish keyboard ? |
| 21:12.13 | dc5sd | does anyone know if i should upgrade xfree86 to the latest release? |
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| 21:13.15 | pngwn | dc5sd, did you just reconfig the card once? |
| 21:13.48 | amphi | tefsom: svgalibg1 1.4.3-7 & svgalibg1-dev |
| 21:13.49 | wcs_ | dc5sd try lowering the refresh rate |
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| 21:14.14 | dc5sd | pngwn ive done it 5 times already, first couple times it just gives me errors |
| 21:14.36 | dc5sd | wcs_: ok thanx |
| 21:14.46 | fungku | does the bf24 install have any isa drivers? |
| 21:14.51 | tefsom | amphi: tnx |
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| 21:15.14 | dc5sd | pngwn: its give me an XIO: fatal IO error 104 |
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| 21:15.45 | dc5sd | Fatal server error: no screens found |
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| 21:15.51 | Althalus | fungku try the 2.4 vanilla ? |
| 21:15.57 | pngwn | dc5sd, paste that on google.com/linux |
| 21:16.01 | dc5sd | ok |
| 21:16.25 | fungku | Althalus: heh, ur smart... never thought of that |
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| 21:18.12 | fungku | Althalus: is vanilla a 2.4 kernel tho? |
| 21:18.19 | deadcat | any dillo user? how do i refresh the page without using the mouse? |
| 21:18.28 | thomas_adam | deadcat: ^R |
| 21:18.30 | Althalus | fungku there is a 2.4 vanilla kernel |
| 21:18.38 | deadcat | thomas_adam: doesnt work for me |
| 21:18.43 | Althalus | press F3 at boot time (from CD) and look at the kernels listed |
| 21:19.04 | fungku | yea, I see. |
| 21:19.10 | thomas_adam | deadcat: maybe you can't |
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| 21:19.12 | node3667 | hello |
| 21:19.17 | fungku | it didnt say it was 2.4 tho |
| 21:19.18 | deadcat | thomas_adam: doh. |
| 21:19.30 | deadcat | thomas_adam: the clitmouse is hard to use (= |
| 21:19.43 | node3667 | on debian stable, i've trouble finding which files logrotates rotates |
| 21:19.44 | Althalus | if it isnt, install with 2.2 do an update to 2.4 or recompile 2.4 to your needs? |
| 21:20.10 | node3667 | and cron.daily/sysklogd handles messages |
| 21:20.22 | fungku | well I gotta half wierd nic here, and I wanted to do the install with the 2.4 kernel then recompile |
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| 21:20.45 | mz | roooot has landed! |
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| 21:20.54 | Mr_Blade_2000 | hi there all... got a question... |
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| 21:21.01 | thomas_adam | Mr_Blade_2000: go ahead |
| 21:21.09 | speakman- | Anyone know about OpenVPN or routing through VPNs ?? |
| 21:21.19 | speakman- | Justin_: there? |
| 21:21.21 | Mr_Blade_2000 | does anybody have an idea on where to find information about how to get a static IP address from a router which uses dhcp?? |
| 21:21.35 | greycat | Mr_Blade_2000: your router's manual? |
| 21:21.38 | intx | is there some new restriction on registering .org domains? |
| 21:21.57 | Mr_Blade_2000 | so it has nothing to do with something on the client side?? |
| 21:21.58 | Althalus | yes - you must be from mars? :) |
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| 21:22.12 | dc5sd | pngwn: i googled it and the only thing i found useful was that it could be a driver issue |
| 21:22.17 | pngwn | dc5sd, what card is it? Maybe turn off frame buffer...I don't use X much. Is this a fresh install or was it working and quit when you did an upgrade? |
| 21:22.27 | gboutwel | Mr_Blade_2000: Nope, it's the server-side that controls taht. |
| 21:22.30 | dc5sd | pngwn: fresh install |
| 21:22.30 | node3667 | speakman-: yeah ? |
| 21:22.35 | dc5sd | pngwn trying to get it to work |
| 21:22.44 | streuner_ | Mr_Blade_2000: usually the router/gateway gives you the same IP |
| 21:22.47 | pngwn | dc5sd, what card? |
| 21:22.48 | dc5sd | pngwn: sorry im a linux newb |
| 21:22.57 | dc5sd | pngwn: Asus geforce 2 gts |
| 21:23.03 | pngwn | dc5sd, that's nothing to be sorry for ;) |
| 21:23.17 | dc5sd | pngwn: i set my monitor parameters according to manufacturers sync values |
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| 21:23.30 | Mr_Blade_2000 | yeah, it USUALLY gives me the same IP, now suddenly after 38 days it didnt and I could not connect to my box again... hence the question, lol |
| 21:23.32 | dc5sd | pngwn: Cornerstone p2460 |
| 21:23.45 | lex | Okay.... intl users -> Have anyone used xlhtml or libspreadsheet-parseexcel? I found that some characters are wrongly encoded in the excel file (should be iso-8552-1, it is, mostly, but not fully). .... anyone has found a workarround for this?... |
| 21:23.49 | saptech | I just installed the 2.6.0 kernel image for Sid and when I reboot, I don't get the lilo menu. Any ideas what is wrong? |
| 21:23.50 | streuner_ | Mr_Blade_2000: bad luck :-) |
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| 21:23.54 | Mr_Blade_2000 | I have tried to look into dhcp options... but it would be easy to just have a static ip iof couse |
| 21:24.04 | Mr_Blade_2000 | thx for the help anyway! |
| 21:24.22 | streuner_ | Mr_Blade_2000: set up dhclient.conf |
| 21:24.33 | streuner_ | in /etc |
| 21:24.38 | pngwn | I've used linux for quite awhile but don't know squat about X, maybe someone else can offer help |
| 21:24.43 | dc5sd | pngwn: i have xfree86 4.1 right now, is it better to upgrade to 4.3? |
| 21:24.59 | pngwn | dc5sd, I doubt it |
| 21:25.17 | pngwn | dc5sd, are you on stable? |
| 21:25.29 | dc5sd | yes |
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| 21:26.27 | pngwn | can one of you video gurus offer dc5sd some help with his X problem? |
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| 21:27.33 | dc5sd | abrotman: hehe |
| 21:27.45 | streuner_ | dc5sd: /msg dpkg nvidia howto |
| 21:28.13 | pngwn | g4lt, show tunes? |
| 21:28.19 | deadcat | http://deadcat.katzeye.com/photo/screenshot/2004-01-20-234742_800x600_scrot.png : tell me why the workspacename/taskbar/clock color are all diff plz? i like the clock color. but dont nkow how to make that for the other 2 |
| 21:28.23 | pngwn | ;) |
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| 21:28.43 | streuner_ | pngwn: there are no video-gurus here ;-) |
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| 21:29.14 | g4lt | pngwn if you asked, probably even show tunes, though he was more of a classical person |
| 21:29.16 | jetscreamer | >>>streuner<<< |
| 21:29.21 | pngwn | streuner_, I know that I'm sure not...command line works for me :) |
| 21:29.21 | dc5sd | streunner: okie dokie |
| 21:29.29 | deadcat | oops wrong channel .(-= |
| 21:29.33 | streuner_ | pngwn: hehe |
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| 21:30.01 | streuner_ | jetscreamer: J E T S C R E A M E R |
| 21:30.07 | streuner_ | jetscreamer: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:30.33 | node3667 | anybody knows how is it possible that /var/log/whatever.log is being rotated every day ? |
| 21:30.49 | streuner_ | logrotate? |
| 21:30.50 | abrotman | /etc/logrotate.d |
| 21:30.53 | g4lt | node3667 logrotate |
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| 21:31.19 | node3667 | logrotate -v -d does not tell it |
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| 21:32.32 | Lafourmi | How to do for fluxbox to be started when X is started ? |
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| 21:32.36 | malevski | hi guys i reinstalled my kernel however the network and sound drivers are not being loaded in this new kernel, when iboot my old kernel all of the devices are working ... do you know the quickest way to make my hardware work in the new kernel? |
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| 21:33.07 | streuner_ | Lafourmi: set it up in .xsession , /msg dpkg ./xsession |
| 21:33.14 | Lafourmi | streuner_, ok thanks |
| 21:33.34 | Rawplayer | i have heard that you can use knoppix cd to install debian is that true ? if yes then does it also recognie s-ata discs to install debian on ? |
| 21:33.36 | Lafourmi | malevski, do you have the .config of the working kernel ? |
| 21:33.42 | streuner_ | dpkg xsession |
| 21:33.42 | dpkg | i heard xsession is ~/.xsession is used for both XDM and 'startx', when there's no ~/.xinitrc. [See: startx(1)], or best initialized as `echo -e "#! /bin/sh\nsource $HOME/.bash_profile\nsource $HOME/.xinitrc" >$HOME/.xsession' |
| 21:33.51 | node3667 | really strange |
| 21:34.04 | speakman- | node3667: i've setup a openVPN-tunnel between two LAN's. both LANs with an Debian router. I can ping between the routers, but not the rest of network (between hosts). Any ideas? |
| 21:34.23 | node3667 | speakman-: forward is off |
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| 21:35.04 | node3667 | speakman-: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
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| 21:35.33 | node3667 | speakman-: also, watch routes |
| 21:35.41 | node3667 | speakman-: also, watch routes, and iptable chains |
| 21:35.43 | malevski | lafourmi where can i find it? |
| 21:35.44 | malevski | hold on |
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| 21:35.54 | speakman- | node3667: ip_forward is 1 on both machnes |
| 21:35.55 | node3667 | speakman-: also, watch routes, and iptable chains, and nating |
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| 21:36.08 | speakman- | node3667: routes looks fine to me, and there is no restrictions in iptables |
| 21:36.20 | Jim-Bob | debian install isn't seeing my promise ata100 controller, all the hdds are connected to it, so it can't find any drives to install on |
| 21:36.21 | speakman- | node3667: both networks is using NAT though.. |
| 21:36.32 | node3667 | speakman-: activate logmartians |
| 21:36.35 | Jim-Bob | where can i get the modules for it? or is that not what i should be looking for ? |
| 21:36.42 | speakman- | Jim-Bob: type "bf24" on Lilo: boot prompt |
| 21:36.49 | speakman- | node3667: whats that..? |
| 21:36.53 | node3667 | speakman-: watch what you are natting |
| 21:36.55 | bono | Question: Im googling about the gnucash "year closing" capabilities... As of 2001, it doesnt seem to have it... Anyone knows if it does now? |
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| 21:37.10 | node3667 | speakman-: nat only -o eth0 |
| 21:37.18 | node3667 | speakman-: dont nat -o tun |
| 21:37.25 | speakman- | node3667: yeah |
| 21:37.30 | speakman- | node3667: but the link works! |
| 21:37.40 | RelDrgn | bono: define year closing |
| 21:37.42 | speakman- | node3667: it's just how to route traffic through it... |
| 21:37.49 | node3667 | tethereal on both ends |
| 21:37.55 | node3667 | and try to ping |
| 21:38.02 | speakman- | i've tried tcpdump |
| 21:38.02 | node3667 | and visualize where it stops |
| 21:38.09 | node3667 | tcpdump is fine |
| 21:38.19 | speakman- | hm w8 |
| 21:38.21 | bono | RelDrgn: Have the previous year transactions wiped out, get the initial balances right, etc.... |
| 21:38.31 | Jim-Bob | i'm using a network install cd... version 2.4.18-fb2.4 |
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| 21:38.36 | Jim-Bob | *bf |
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| 21:38.56 | speakman- | Jim-Bob: enter bf24 when booting, at "Lilo:" prompto |
| 21:38.57 | speakman- | -o |
| 21:39.19 | node3667 | speakman-: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/log_martians |
| 21:39.22 | Jim-Bob | i don't get a lilo: prompt, i get a boot: prompt |
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| 21:39.42 | speakman- | node3667: what's that logmartians? :) |
| 21:39.44 | node3667 | will log any badly routed traffic |
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| 21:39.51 | node3667 | good for you |
| 21:39.52 | speakman- | ok! where? |
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| 21:40.09 | Jim-Bob | ok what in the world, it works now |
| 21:40.14 | Jim-Bob | i'm confused, but yay |
| 21:40.16 | Jim-Bob | thnx |
| 21:40.26 | chance2105 | As root, 'gcc -v' complains 'gcc-3.2: command not found'. As a regular user, gcc -v return the expected (gcc-3.3). ls -la on /usr/bin/gcc shows a symlink to gcc-3.3 (as root or as a regular user). What gives? |
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| 21:40.35 | dli | which tool to look the hostname for an IP? |
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| 21:40.55 | DaCa | dli: host |
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| 21:41.27 | RelDrgn | chance2105: "which gcc" as root? also check "alias" |
| 21:41.33 | dli | DaCa: thanks |
| 21:42.10 | kentaro | binary samba 3.0.1-2 segfaulting like hell on me.. known bug ? |
| 21:42.38 | greycat | chance2105: "type gcc" as root (not which) |
| 21:42.47 | greycat | chance2105: smells like you aliased it |
| 21:43.10 | prajm | hey greycatyou are the one hosting apt ?! |
| 21:43.15 | node3667 | speakman-: check backlog |
| 21:43.18 | chance2105 | greycat: RelDrgn: Yeah, I did. Aliased it .. it was in my .bashrc. Thnx |
| 21:44.08 | greycat | prajm: no |
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| 21:44.23 | prajm | greycat: damn who is running it then ? :/ |
| 21:44.25 | greycat | ~+your factoids |
| 21:44.26 | | [your factoids] at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ |
| 21:44.32 | greycat | hmm. |
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| 21:44.37 | greycat | !+your factoids |
| 21:44.38 | dpkg | hmm... your factoids is at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ |
| 21:44.51 | prajm | oh hah nice :-) |
| 21:44.59 | greycat | prajm: I think you want to use dpkg's, not apt's, because apt's been replaced by an evil bot from bizarro-world |
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| 21:45.33 | prajm | greycat: ah oki , just some time ago .. i got a dump from the databse .. with like 18000 factoids .. it was really nice to have |
| 21:45.34 | prajm | :) |
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| 21:47.09 | vege | http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/8688951?source=Evening%20Standard |
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| 21:47.31 | deadcat | does "export BROWSER=/usr/bin/dillo" work? so when i click on a link it uses dillo rather than firebird? |
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| 21:49.58 | mross | Question: I don't want a Squid server to cache a web page. I have a 'no_cache' statement in my squid.conf to NOT cache the page, but it doesn't seem to be working. I've read lots of FAQs. Any ideas? |
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| 21:50.22 | xerophyte | okay i compild the kernel 2.6.1 booted with the kernel its panic and didnt wanna boot and i dont have another lilo entry how can i boot the box with my debian first diesk |
| 21:50.50 | mross | xerophyte: Boot off CD with the rescue image. |
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| 21:51.07 | xerophyte | mross how can i boot put he disk then |
| 21:51.21 | xerophyte | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:52.06 | mross | xerophyte: Well, I put in the first CD, then use the boot options of: rescue root=/dev/hda1 (change hda1 to your root partition) |
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| 21:53.09 | xerophyte | i have entry to my old kernel on the lilo.conf but when i boot with new kernel lilo didnt give that option how come |
| 21:53.22 | xerophyte | i have ran the lilo -v -v after i have modified the lilo |
| 21:53.36 | mross | xerophyte: Not sure. |
| 21:53.49 | mross | No experiance here with 2.5 and up. |
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| 21:55.34 | calamari_ | hi |
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| 21:56.03 | calamari_ | I'm trying to set up cups.. one of the steps says to do: "/etc/init.d/cups restart" what is the correct command for a Debian system? |
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| 21:58.24 | Stv | lo peoples |
| 21:58.56 | Lafourmi | hi |
| 21:59.05 | bert | calamari_: "/etc/init.d/cupsys restart" will do it. or "invoke-rc.d cupsys restart". |
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| 21:59.25 | Pezz453 | sup |
| 22:00.04 | bert | calamari_: the latter being the recommended way of doing it i believe. |
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| 22:00.28 | Stv | how come there is no DVD jigdo image for stable? :(:( |
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| 22:01.04 | calamari_ | bert: thanks |
| 22:01.12 | jetscreamer | it's not big enough? besides i think there are unofficial ones but i forget |
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| 22:02.58 | Stv | I'm sorry I'm completely new to Debian... I want to run a relatively stable system, but quite possibly a "testing" or "unstable" window manager, is this possible without great hastle? |
| 22:03.41 | jetscreamer | Stv, they're called backports |
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| 22:04.07 | jetscreamer | and yeah possible but i'm not the one to tell how |
| 22:04.09 | lancey | anyone know a good newbie book about Debian? |
| 22:04.36 | Stv | jetscreamer, would I need to download them or are they on the CD's/DVDs. The problem is I want to install it on at uni, but the machine doesn't have network access |
| 22:04.42 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.58 | eeyore- | this patch-o-matic thingie is complicated :-D |
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| 22:05.28 | jetscreamer | the installation medium is available on both afaik |
| 22:05.41 | jetscreamer | plus net install is available |
| 22:05.44 | fungku | can I get a kernel source that doesnt have all the other arch..'s in it, like just i3/586 |
| 22:05.47 | astrashe | stv: read the APT howto -- it talks about how to take some packages from stable, others from testing, etc. |
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| 22:05.58 | astrashe | it's an enormously helpful document if you run debian |
| 22:06.27 | Stv | that's wonderful :D, jetscreamer that is exactly what I'm after |
| 22:06.40 | Stv | astrashe, will do. |
| 22:06.47 | Lafourmi | gn all |
| 22:07.17 | Stv | so is there really no DVD version of stable? :(( |
| 22:07.26 | johnzen | clear |
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| 22:08.16 | Stv | apolgoies.. "within the next months, we also plan to produce DVD images for "stable"." |
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| 22:10.01 | djw | why when I do pvscan it scans my cd burner for LVM partitions |
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| 22:10.35 | Stv | what would happen if I wrote 7 CD images onto a single disk? :/ |
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| 22:11.13 | jetscreamer | you'd run out of room |
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| 22:11.18 | djw | Stv: onto a DVD? |
| 22:11.23 | Stv | djw, yes |
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| 22:11.33 | jetscreamer | could only boot one though eh |
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| 22:11.43 | pro | hey all is there a way i can remove unused stuff on my drive that debian installs that i wont ever use? like readmes and examples and so on ? |
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| 22:11.55 | jetscreamer | pro check out localepurge |
| 22:11.57 | fungku | whats the latest 2.4 kernel? |
| 22:11.58 | pro | or is there a way i can find where all my space went? |
| 22:12.02 | jetscreamer | for something along those lines |
| 22:12.16 | JoePenguin | Pro: deborphan can help a little |
| 22:12.18 | jetscreamer | 2.4.24 i think |
| 22:12.20 | pro | 2.4.23 i think? |
| 22:12.31 | fungku | i see 2.4.24 there |
| 22:12.38 | jetscreamer | -1 iirc |
| 22:12.41 | JoePenguin | pro: if you want to find out which packages are using the most space, apt-get install dpkg-awk; dpkg-awk "Status: .* installed$" -- Installed-Size Package | awk '{print $2}' | grep -v '^$' | xargs -n2 | sort -rg |
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| 22:12.43 | fungku | and a patch for 2.4.3 |
| 22:12.44 | jetscreamer | but i haven'tloked lately |
| 22:12.50 | djw | Stv: you'd get problems with the package lists I suspect |
| 22:13.12 | eeyore- | time to recompile iptables soon |
| 22:13.45 | pro | found an extra 200mb worth of unused stuff in /var/cache/apt/archives |
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| 22:14.15 | pro | thanks guys |
| 22:14.26 | JoePenguin | pro: apt-get clean will delete downloaded debs, i believe |
| 22:14.37 | DaCa | Stv: it would be easier to mirror with debmirror and write that on dvd (if it fits that is) |
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| 22:14.47 | eeyore- | pro: you're supposed to clean it out every so often (if you use apt-get) |
| 22:15.28 | Stv | DaCa, ok, I assume I'll have to install Debian before I can create that? |
| 22:15.29 | krs | can somebody pls help me with an issue concerning devfs transition from kernel 2.4 to 2.6? |
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| 22:15.52 | ljlane | krs: just ask |
| 22:15.58 | witless | anyone here using firebird from unstable? |
| 22:16.13 | JoePenguin | DaCa: my local mirror of stable, testing, and unstable (no source packages) comes to 14 GB, fyi. |
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| 22:16.24 | krs | in 2.6 i have no more device entries for usbscanner |
| 22:16.40 | krs | plus in kde konsole i get the error msg 'unable to find suitable terminal device' |
| 22:16.58 | krs | yet the terminal device issue does not happen when i use x as root |
| 22:17.23 | Stv | JoePenguin, do you know how big Stable is of that is? |
| 22:17.37 | krs | i think i have followed all instructions in kernel source documentation referring to devfs |
| 22:17.56 | krs | plus all devfs configuration works properly in 2.4.* |
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| 22:18.33 | JoePenguin | krs: according to this message, devfs is replaced by udev in 2.6 http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg31903.html |
| 22:18.37 | DaCa | Stv: its a perl script, it doesnt need to run on debian, aamaf i run it on a freebsd server too |
| 22:18.41 | Pezz453 | hey, does anyone know why my box locks up when i try to install linuxant drivers for my 802.11b wireless? |
| 22:18.43 | Stv | if anyone knows a place I can buy a Debian stable DVD that would do equally as well |
| 22:19.03 | Stv | DaCa, ok, I'll google it |
| 22:19.06 | JoePenguin | Stv: there's no easy way to tell how much of that is from stable. |
| 22:19.12 | krs | JoePenguin: is this a completely new system for device filesystem? |
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| 22:19.58 | Maveric | anyone have problems with watching vid's in linux |
| 22:20.01 | De_Mon | is there some app, or method of checking the latency for a specific classification of packets? something along the ways of netstat or tcpdump |
| 22:20.06 | Maveric | the sound like plays super fast |
| 22:20.08 | Stv | JoePenguin, ok :) |
| 22:20.17 | JoePenguin | krs: that's my understanding, but i've never used it before. |
| 22:20.31 | De_Mon | im doing some lartc stuff and want to make sure that certain packets arnt lagging more than they should |
| 22:20.36 | ryoutou | ls |
| 22:20.37 | krs | JoePenguin: ok, thanks. not used devfs either? |
| 22:20.52 | JoePenguin | krs: i tried it for a day, i think |
| 22:21.09 | krs | JoePenguin: ah, okay, i see |
| 22:21.11 | De_Mon | hmmm... or, what if I put echo requests in that class |
| 22:21.38 | De_Mon | thats not what ping uses, hmm -goes searching |
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| 22:22.45 | knoppix_ | org |
| 22:23.21 | RelDrgn | Maveric: what sound card? is it a builtin ac'97 thingy? |
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| 22:24.35 | RelDrgn | Maveric: (the builtin ac'97 chipset on my computer can only accept one sample rate (44kHz IIRC) in order to play anything, I had to resample it to that rate. |
| 22:26.20 | mentor | Grr. OK, what is the standard name that removable HD trays are called by? |
| 22:27.10 | mobile | "caddy" |
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| 22:27.21 | mobile | maybe |
| 22:27.25 | eeyore- | De_Mon: have you looked into netfilter's patch-o-matic repository? look into the "extra" modules section, it'll likely have a matching module that you could use |
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| 22:28.13 | eeyore- | De_Mon: but, if you use patch-o-matic and add modules to your kernel, you'll likely need to recompile iptables since the data structure sizes will have changed between debian's iptables and your newly-patched kernel (with patch-o-matic extra modules) |
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| 22:29.07 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 22:30.12 | mentor | ~tell pro about away |
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| 22:32.33 | Maveric | is there a reason why when i'm playing videos in xine it chooses to play the sound really fast and out of sync? |
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| 22:33.08 | mentor | Maveric: I should imagine so. |
| 22:33.14 | helix | !tell pro about away |
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| 22:33.32 | mentor | pro: been there done that. |
| 22:33.50 | mentor | er. |
| 22:33.56 | mentor | helix: been there; done that. |
| 22:33.58 | eeyore- | ~tell helix about repeat |
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| 22:34.29 | helix | eeyore-: leave me alone ;/ |
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| 22:34.36 | helix | mentor: sorry |
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| 22:34.39 | mentor | poor helix |
| 22:34.42 | mentor | ~snack helix |
| 22:34.46 | | ACTION throws helix a doggy treat |
| 22:34.54 | helix | :| |
| 22:35.18 | eeyore- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.21 | eeyore- | :|| |
| 22:35.24 | eeyore- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.35 | eeyore- | that's helix chewing on the treat :) |
| 22:35.53 | helix | haha, i hate you guys |
| 22:35.55 | helix | !helix |
| 22:35.55 | dpkg | leave her alone. |
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| 22:36.47 | _santiago_ | hi people |
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| 22:36.52 | RelDrgn | Maveric: did you hear what I said? |
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| 22:37.21 | _santiago_ | i have problems installing debian in my new dell poweredge |
| 22:37.31 | eeyore- | _santiago_: what kind of problem? |
| 22:37.34 | RelDrgn | _santiago_: are you doing a netinst? |
| 22:37.35 | _santiago_ | i need the drivers for the scsi |
| 22:37.37 | mentor | Does anyone know where I can find information on SCSI 68-pin connector Hard Drive removable caddies? I have 5 jumper wires inside that I can't figure out to what they connect... |
| 22:37.41 | eeyore- | _santiago_: PERC? |
| 22:37.43 | _santiago_ | and for the nic |
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| 22:38.03 | RelDrgn | _santiago_: /msg dpkg custom netinst the site it gives you has as an example, a custom netinst cd for the poweredge |
| 22:38.06 | _santiago_ | i'm doing a cdrom install |
| 22:38.16 | mentor | (It appears most websites do not deem it to be necessary to provide manuals for these kind of things) |
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| 22:38.30 | calamari_ | mentor: is that the centronics connector? |
| 22:38.31 | _santiago_ | eeyore-: what's PERC? |
| 22:38.33 | intero | where can i find old acpi kernel patches (for 2.4.20)? seems only the new ones are kept :( |
| 22:38.36 | eeyore- | mentor: probably ID selector |
| 22:38.59 | petemc | _santiago_: the shitty raid controller you have |
| 22:39.04 | eeyore- | mentor: they probably connect directly to the 3 or 4 jumper blocks on the drive itself |
| 22:39.19 | RelDrgn | perc's are shitty? |
| 22:39.19 | mentor | calamari_: That's the Half-density UW connector... |
| 22:39.22 | eeyore- | mentor: with one being common/ground, so that's one ground, four selector pins |
| 22:39.23 | Maveric | is there a reason why when i'm playing videos in xine it chooses to play the sound really fast and out of sync? |
| 22:39.26 | petemc | perc3s are |
| 22:39.48 | _santiago_ | where i can find the drivers?? |
| 22:39.49 | RelDrgn | hm, our new database server is a perc 4 |
| 22:39.52 | mentor | eeyore-: Spiffy, now I just have to work out how they connect. |
| 22:39.54 | calamari_ | mentor: oic.. have an old mac external hd, was going to open it up.. must be 50 pin :) |
| 22:39.55 | eeyore- | RelDrgn: depends on whom you ask at what time of day (e.g., when it craps out on you, it's shitty) |
| 22:39.57 | petemc | perc4 is all good |
| 22:40.01 | eeyore- | mentor: ya :-) |
| 22:40.15 | petemc | !tell _santiago_ abot custom netinst |
| 22:40.15 | mentor | eeyore-: It would make sense since there is an ID switch on the back of the tray. |
| 22:40.17 | RelDrgn | _santiago_: anyway, go get the custom netinstall cd from there and use that |
| 22:40.22 | eeyore- | mentor: but that's my GUESS! :-) i could very well be wrong, esp. since i'm not looking at what you're looking |
| 22:40.39 | RelDrgn | _santiago_: I've never done it, but I think you can use a netinstall cd and still do a cdrom install |
| 22:40.48 | mentor | eeyore-: I figured it wasn't just for selecting the purty number on the front. |
| 22:40.51 | eeyore- | mentor: but, you said five wires, 4 + ground, gives you 16 ID's, plausible |
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| 22:41.03 | _santiago_ | ok |
| 22:41.08 | _santiago_ | thanks |
| 22:41.19 | petemc | that cd works fine, ive used it plenty |
| 22:41.26 | petemc | its only ~10meg |
| 22:42.19 | RelDrgn | Maveric: hello? hello? anyone home? are we supposed to use the psychic potato to figure out the source of the problem or are you going to tell us what your sound card is? |
| 22:42.20 | eeyore- | mentor: btw, what are you doing with scsi? :) |
| 22:42.29 | Maveric | sorry |
| 22:42.30 | Maveric | at work |
| 22:42.31 | Maveric | lol |
| 22:42.31 | ezrafree | hey |
| 22:42.34 | Maveric | RelDrgn |
| 22:42.36 | eeyore- | ~start scsi war |
| 22:42.39 | ezrafree | anyone here use enigmail |
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| 22:43.05 | ezrafree | haha wzap |
| 22:43.07 | Maveric | RelDrgn what did you want to know? |
| 22:43.17 | Zap-W | ? |
| 22:43.19 | Stv | DaCa, :D ok I did `debmirror /export/Debian` ... any idea what it will mirror, everything? |
| 22:43.27 | RelDrgn | Maveric: ok, then what card is it ;) is it one of those built in ones? some of the AC'97 chipsets are so crappy they can only accept audio at one sample rate, and cannot resample audio itself |
| 22:43.42 | ezrafree | Zap-W: if you don't know, then nm ;) |
| 22:44.01 | Maveric | ah ok |
| 22:44.06 | Zap-W | ezrafree : know you? |
| 22:44.06 | Maveric | that makes sense RelDrgn |
| 22:44.08 | Maveric | and its the problem |
| 22:44.16 | Maveric | i don't have much of an option seeing as its a laptop |
| 22:44.20 | ezrafree | Zap-W: know wzap |
| 22:44.27 | Zap-W | wzap |
| 22:45.04 | DaCa | Stv: sid i guess, it would have been a good idea to read the man page first :) |
| 22:45.40 | Maveric | RelDrgn how do i force it at 44kHz? |
| 22:45.51 | RelDrgn | Maveric: i know specifically that the audio on the k7d master-l motherboard is ths way because I have one at home and gave in and bought a sb live 5.1 ;P |
| 22:46.22 | RelDrgn | Maveric: whatever application has to be able to resample on the fly, and nearly all don't because everyone assumed that soundcards could do it ;P |
| 22:46.26 | Maveric | RelDrgn the thing is i've played this video |
| 22:46.31 | Maveric | and sometimes its wacked |
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| 22:46.36 | Maveric | and sometimes it works |
| 22:46.36 | Stv | DaCa, I can't see any man files in the source package :( |
| 22:46.39 | RelDrgn | Maveric: only sometimes? weird |
| 22:46.42 | intero | where can i find old acpi/cpufreq kernel patches (for 2.4.20)? seems only the new ones are kept :( |
| 22:46.50 | RelDrgn | Maveric: I have no idea then, sorry :/ |
| 22:46.52 | Maveric | yes RelDrgn |
| 22:46.55 | Maveric | thats why its wierd |
| 22:47.03 | RelDrgn | Maveric: how do mp3s work? |
| 22:47.06 | petemc | intero: kernel.org? why not update your kernel tho? |
| 22:47.17 | Stv | DaCa, nevermind google has lent a hand |
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| 22:47.21 | Maveric | they will do the same thing sometimes will work and other times don't |
| 22:47.22 | Maveric | lol |
| 22:47.32 | Maveric | its starting to drive me nuts |
| 22:47.32 | intero | petemc: i have a patch for rtlinux that only works with 2.4.20 :( |
| 22:47.37 | RelDrgn | Maveric: ok, thats really weird ;p |
| 22:47.42 | Maveric | it was fine until i installed mp3blaster |
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| 22:47.56 | Maveric | but then it started this |
| 22:48.09 | Maveric | so then i removed every package and purged |
| 22:48.12 | Maveric | but still no go |
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| 22:49.15 | fungku | for compiling a kernel |
| 22:49.20 | fungku | its make config |
| 22:49.22 | fungku | make dep |
| 22:49.25 | fungku | make modules |
| 22:49.28 | cosmin | hello, i have some wird problems with iptables,iptables-save and iptables-restore: i used iptables save active under 2.6 kernel, and everything worked fine. I switched back to 2.4 because i want to use p-o-m. But iptables wont start, it complains about some lines in active rule-set, lines that contain COMMIT. in latest 2.4 i use, i get invalid parrameter when i iptables -A INPUT -j ACCEPT, in bf24 i dont, any ideea ? |
| 22:49.31 | Zap-W | lol was going to type traceroute , and i typed trancero...insted |
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| 22:49.34 | fungku | make modules install right? |
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| 22:49.37 | Zap-W | was thinking of this party i wanted to go |
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| 22:50.02 | xuelan | Where is the best place to find linux torrents??? |
| 22:50.13 | MarcoPau | hi, downloading a file with mozilla it says no passive mode allowed. How do I do? |
| 22:50.17 | simonrvn | xuelan: not on this channel you won't |
| 22:50.23 | michal | hi.. does anyone know how I could pipe two seperate commands to another program?? ie if i wanted to do date and then dmesg |tail to mail -S Important admin@somewhere |
| 22:50.26 | tarzeau | did you know disney.com use debian? proxy12.disney.com - - [21/Jan/2004:23:49:53 +0100] "GET /irc/ HTTP/1.1" 200 5521 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030527 Debian/1.3.1-2" |
| 22:50.48 | LoRez | tarzeau: is that a pixar box perchance? |
| 22:50.52 | simonrvn | xuelan: nor on this network. we don't do warez here |
| 22:51.04 | chris` | Doesn't pixar render on debian boxen? |
| 22:51.09 | tarzeau | LoRez: i don't think pixar has pixar.com |
| 22:51.13 | tarzeau | LoRez: i've had them visit me too :) |
| 22:51.13 | RelDrgn | Maveric: have you rebooted since then? maybe mp3blaster did something seedy to the sound chip, which is still flipping out over it |
| 22:51.17 | xuelan | simonrvn: who said warez - i said torrent |
| 22:51.21 | tarzeau | LoRez: they've got very funny hostnames! |
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| 22:51.28 | simonrvn | xuelan: same thing |
| 22:51.30 | LoRez | tarzeau: didn't disney buy pixar? |
| 22:51.35 | tarzeau | LoRez: yes they did |
| 22:51.39 | xuelan | simonrvn: no it is not |
| 22:51.42 | chris` | simonrvn: uh, lots of distros are distributed through torrents now |
| 22:51.45 | chris` | simonrvn: lay off |
| 22:51.48 | RelDrgn | xuelan: distrowatch has some links to torrents of linux isos. |
| 22:51.53 | LoRez | I would imagine that's a pixar box behind a disney proxy then |
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| 22:52.05 | xuelan | RelDrgn: thanks |
| 22:52.22 | Maveric | RelDrgn yes i have |
| 22:52.23 | michal | and also.. does ssh have any sort of keepalive mechanism? my ssh connections keep being frozen by a router |
| 22:52.35 | eeyore- | anybody know the "proper" way to rebuild debian iptables package? |
| 22:52.36 | simonrvn | chris`, xuelan: excuse me for my ignorance. chris`: no need to get snarky |
| 22:52.44 | chris` | simonrvn: I'LL SNARKY YOU! |
| 22:53.04 | RelDrgn | Maveric: then I don't think that mp3blaster was the cause, maybe it just started weirding out at that time |
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| 22:53.29 | simonrvn | chris`: btw, looks grey here (the bars) |
| 22:53.35 | cosmin | ok, i wrote to much:> why a saved ruleset wont work with iptables-restore, it complains about lines with COMMIT |
| 22:53.38 | chris` | simonrvn: What about the large box? |
| 22:53.47 | Swayvill | Hello |
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| 22:54.01 | Swayvill | I'm new to Debian |
| 22:54.10 | simonrvn | chris`: the large box is kinda yellow-brownish, almost khaki |
| 22:54.15 | Stv | Swayvill, me too :D |
| 22:54.18 | Swayvill | building a jigdo image of Woody |
| 22:54.18 | Roobarb | how can I use sed to change every instance of 'foo' in a file to 'bar' ? |
| 22:54.27 | RelDrgn | michal: see man sshd_conf, htere is a ClientAliveInterval you can set to send the client a keepalive message |
| 22:54.27 | chris` | hrmmm, then my laptop must have an odd color scheme setup |
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| 22:55.23 | pjack | Question: How can I load modules on boot? To use my MiniDV camcorder, I have to manually do modprobe video1394 as root every time... |
| 22:55.36 | mobile | Roobarb: use sed 's/foo/bar/g' < in > out |
| 22:55.41 | Maveric | well RelDrgn its just a very strange situation |
| 22:55.43 | The_Vulture | pjack: man modules |
| 22:55.45 | simonrvn | pjack: /etc/modules |
| 22:55.48 | Roobarb | mobile: can in and out be the same file ? |
| 22:56.13 | Swayvill | What's my best option for getting sarge running: installing from a sarge netinst cd or installing woody base and choosing the testing branch for apt source ? |
| 22:56.15 | pjack | thanks! |
| 22:56.38 | RelDrgn | Maveric: yes, yes it is, and my first assessment of it was incorrect if the same file plays differently some times, and if its not specifically xine's fault. |
| 22:56.39 | mobile | Dunno. I always mv the original to $f.bak then sed < $f.bak > $f |
| 22:56.43 | Maveric | ok that is strange |
| 22:56.52 | Maveric | xine is reporting 0 kHz |
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| 22:57.41 | fgh | hi |
| 22:57.56 | fgh | where is the DocumentRoot Paramter in sid' s apache2? |
| 22:58.17 | fgh | httpd.conf is empty and in apache2.conf is no DocumentRoot Paramter |
| 22:58.23 | mobile | Swayvill: I upgraded from woody to testing and there was a LOT of screens to wade through. Suspect sarge install would be quicker if it worked |
| 22:58.32 | LoRez | fgh: grep is your friend |
| 22:58.50 | Swayvill | mobile: "if" ? :) |
| 22:59.55 | cafuego | perl -pi -e 's/foo/bar/' file |
| 22:59.58 | mobile | I just mean I haven't tried a straight sarge install... only the upgrade from woody |
| 23:00.05 | cafuego | no rediretion required, works on *.txt too. |
| 23:00.25 | Swayvill | mobile: anyway if you say the woody installer is safer, I'll use it. From my understanding only the base install is done from the installer, the rest is done with dselect, correct ? |
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| 23:01.08 | mobile | That sounds familiar... I just followed the instructions on the debian website |
| 23:01.10 | cafuego | Swayvill: Use the netinst, run through it, add sources when done, edit sources.list, change stable to testing, continue installing. |
| 23:01.18 | beta3 | hey cafuego |
| 23:01.25 | cafuego | hola beta3 |
| 23:01.26 | Swayvill | [disclaimer: I only know what I'm saying from my reading of the installation manual -- which seems clear enough] |
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| 23:02.03 | mobile | I followed those instructions exactly and it Just Worked |
| 23:02.05 | Swayvill | cafuego so you mean a woody netinst |
| 23:02.09 | cafuego | Swayvill: yes |
| 23:02.12 | beta3 | cafuego: do you mind if I msg you? |
| 23:02.16 | Swayvill | cafuego ok |
| 23:02.23 | cafuego | beta3: No, as long as you don't mind not gettign a reply. |
| 23:02.30 | ezrafree | hi everyone, i'm trying to use the enigmail plugin for mozilla thunderbird, so i installed it, and also installed gnupg... but i don't have a ~/.gnupg/gnupg.key |
| 23:02.32 | beta3 | heh |
| 23:02.41 | chris` | ezrafree: then make one |
| 23:02.46 | chris` | man gpg |
| 23:03.01 | Swayvill | mobile hopefully it will also work for me |
| 23:03.22 | beta3 | cafuego: I am having trouble with the AOL & others who use blacklists for dynamic ips. Do you think I could relay through your server |
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| 23:03.44 | dondelelcaro | beta3: why not use your upstream mailserver? |
| 23:03.45 | cafuego | beta3: absolutely not! |
| 23:03.48 | Swayvill | cafuego: the website seems to indicate that only unofficial netinst-stable images are made. |
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| 23:04.05 | cafuego | Swayvill: Yes, they do however works fine. |
| 23:04.13 | mobile | Good luck with upgrade |
| 23:04.19 | unixfool`` | cafuego: can i use your relay? i need to send some spam |
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| 23:04.44 | beta3 | dondelelcaro: well with my fighting with comcrap |
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| 23:04.56 | beta3 | dondelelcaro: they still haven't fixed their mta |
| 23:05.00 | Swayvill | cafuego & mobile: thank you |
| 23:05.03 | dimes | is there a postfix related debian chanel? |
| 23:05.08 | beta3 | dondelelcaro: takes more than 2hrs to get mail through it |
| 23:05.18 | dondelelcaro | beta3: heh. Time to switch ISPs. |
| 23:05.19 | intero | hey beta3, how are you |
| 23:05.27 | beta3 | intero: good :) |
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| 23:05.30 | unixfool`` | beta3: smtp.comcast.net works for me |
| 23:05.41 | beta3 | unixfool``: Yeah, when it wants to |
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| 23:06.19 | cafuego | beta3: I have a grand total of 64Kbps of bandwidth; I'm not about to share that |
| 23:06.33 | beta3 | dondelelcaro: their mailserver must be a 286 with the worlds most bloated MTA |
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| 23:07.10 | riis | hi people |
| 23:07.41 | cafuego | beta3: especially since I have paying custumers using it |
| 23:07.51 | riis | was just wondering how i stop xdm from starting by default, so I'll just get console instead... |
| 23:08.04 | cafuego | riis: apt-get remove xdm |
| 23:08.05 | Swayvill | My god, jigdo is already done! |
| 23:08.15 | Swayvill | This thing is FAST |
| 23:08.24 | Rubin | riis: or pull it out of /etc/rc2.d.. |
| 23:09.09 | beta3 | cafuego: ouch |
| 23:09.21 | dimes | Hello all, does anyone know of a specific chanel I should ask questions about a malfunctioning postfix on debian? |
| 23:09.25 | beta3 | cafuego: dam! I got 3mbit/256 here |
| 23:09.35 | beta3 | cafuego: only 42 USD |
| 23:09.37 | cafuego | beta3: Can I route my mail through you? |
| 23:09.41 | beta3 | sure |
| 23:09.47 | beta3 | as soon as I figure out this stupid issue |
| 23:10.00 | cafuego | beta3: I also need a /27 netblock and static IPs. |
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| 23:10.11 | beta3 | I don't have any of those |
| 23:10.15 | beta3 | sorry :( |
| 23:10.26 | beta3 | cafuego: nice |
| 23:10.36 | beta3 | cafuego: I decided to not get DS3 |
| 23:10.46 | beta3 | still iffy on it |
| 23:10.54 | beta3 | Im starting to think I should |
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| 23:11.11 | wethion | Hey folks. I'm running dsl with pppoe. A kludge, I know. anyway. for some reason my nic is making lcp requests to the outside router, about one every 2-3 seconds. afaik, this is not normal. am I incorrect? |
| 23:11.14 | MarcoPau | I need advice to get my debian on a computer connected to internet through a wireless router |
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| 23:11.17 | cafuego | petemc: But you would be 1) a bitch and 2) not paying australian rates. |
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| 23:11.36 | petemc | cafuego: heh, true, but it is expensive enough |
| 23:11.37 | beta3 | cafuego: and if I got it, you can ship your box up here, Ill run it as a colo |
| 23:12.03 | MarcoPau | I'm getting the 37 mb mini iso, and I'm just wondering if it's gonna be enough to configure the connection |
| 23:12.04 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:12.10 | cafuego | beta3: Yeah, right. Getting a T3 installed is cheaper then shipping a box :-P |
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| 23:12.35 | cafuego | MarcoPau: I don't think any of them have 'iwconfig' on them. |
| 23:12.53 | MarcoPau | cafuego: what would iwconfig be> |
| 23:12.54 | MarcoPau | ? |
| 23:13.00 | cafuego | MarcoPau: the wireless config tool. |
| 23:13.06 | MarcoPau | I see |
| 23:13.19 | xinud | pcmcia modules loading but after putting a card nothing happens ? |
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| 23:13.29 | toady_ | hi |
| 23:13.50 | toady_ | does anybody know how to install a ttf font with deforma-font ? |
| 23:14.07 | beta3 | cafuego: almost breaking down and buying the package from dyndns.org for 15 bucks a year 150 messages sent through a day |
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| 23:14.20 | beta3 | I get a lot of incoming mail |
| 23:14.23 | beta3 | not outgoing :) |
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| 23:14.39 | riis | and how do I configure xfree with debconf? |
| 23:14.39 | MrIron | where can I restrict so 'su' only works with people in the staff group? |
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| 23:15.10 | MarcoPau | cafuego: can't I just download iwconfig and install the deb on the new debian? |
| 23:15.30 | Swayvill | MrIron: in the PAM configuration if su was compiled with PAM, otherwise in /etc/suauth |
| 23:15.46 | Ser_SimpleS | bob2 u there? i've solve last night problem, i think u will enjoy this. |
| 23:15.55 | MrIron | Swayvill: suauth dont exist |
| 23:16.08 | MarcoPau | cafuego: I mean, install the little debian and add just iwconfig package |
| 23:16.13 | Blissex | MrIron: use 'sudo'. |
| 23:16.18 | beta3 | s/chuckes/chuckles/ |
| 23:16.24 | Swayvill | MrIron yes, you have to create it. man suauth works if I'm not mistaken. |
| 23:16.31 | MrIron | thanks :) |
| 23:16.33 | beta3 | cafuego: dyndns uses exim4 :) |
| 23:16.37 | Ser_SimpleS | guys: i've loaded a VGa controler at woody instalation program. The Riva controler opens a green screen at the end of the load of the OS. how do i remove that? |
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| 23:16.46 | Swayvill | MrIron: although Blissex is right, sudo is probably a better choice |
| 23:17.22 | riis | anybody know how I configure xfree with debconf? |
| 23:17.23 | Ser_SimpleS | any ideas? |
| 23:17.35 | Ser_SimpleS | riis i might help.- |
| 23:17.42 | Ser_SimpleS | riis what's up? |
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| 23:18.22 | petemc | riis: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 23:18.45 | riis | petemc: thanks, and ser_simples thnaks too |
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| 23:19.19 | Ser_SimpleS | any ideas guys? |
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| 23:20.15 | cafuego | MarcoPau: Well, depends on how you download it. Does the debian box have a wifi connection to the net? |
| 23:20.15 | mobile | Ser_SimpleS: you talking about Riva128 ? |
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| 23:20.29 | beta3 | cafuego: one last try with comcrap |
| 23:20.32 | mox | Is there a task for GNOME2? |
| 23:20.34 | Ser_SimpleS | mobile i just want to take off that controller. i havent got X even. |
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| 23:20.55 | h4mm3r` | hi all |
| 23:21.02 | dou | how do i add pool to sources.list, it keeps complaining of Packages.gz and Sources.gz not found upon apt-get update on that mirror with the pool/ |
| 23:21.11 | MarcoPau | cafuego: I got 3 machines with wifi connection, and on one of these I wanna install a debian |
| 23:21.15 | cafuego | dou: apt-setup |
| 23:21.26 | dou | cafuego: thanks |
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| 23:21.47 | cafuego | MarcoPau: Then you can't dwnlaod and install iwconfig *until* you have a connection, right? |
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| 23:22.01 | mobile | I had a lot of trouble with Riva128 + woody. FIxed when I went to sarge though.... |
| 23:22.07 | Ser_SimpleS | mobile the VGA is a VT7100 from asus... no driver still, Any way i just want the green screen to disaper.... |
| 23:22.11 | MarcoPau | cafuego: well, I can download it from another machine and write it to a cd |
| 23:22.33 | cafuego | MarcoPau: yeah I suppose... that would be the way to go. |
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| 23:23.01 | mobile | think it was the more recent XFree that fixed it |
| 23:23.06 | dou | cafuego: no thats not what i want. i want to be able to add pool to sources.list |
| 23:23.19 | dou | how do i do that |
| 23:23.30 | cafuego | dou: You do not add pool to sources.list. |
| 23:23.33 | tarzeau | apt eat dou |
| 23:23.37 | | ACTION eats dou and falls over dead |
| 23:23.37 | dou | like add http://debian.rutgers.edu/pool/main/e/evolution/ |
| 23:23.37 | MarcoPau | cafuego: alright thank ya |
| 23:23.37 | Ser_SimpleS | mobile it's a 32 meg VGA card. do u know how to cake that controler out? |
| 23:23.54 | tarzeau | GNU/Hurd really is very cool! |
| 23:24.03 | dou | do i have to download the packages from pool and install them manually |
| 23:24.03 | dou | ? |
| 23:24.06 | mobile | No sorry |
| 23:24.11 | cafuego | dou: Like I said, run apt-setup. Also read the debian user guide. |
| 23:24.34 | mox | Is there a task to install GNOME2? |
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| 23:25.16 | Ser_SimpleS | guys: i've loaded a VGa controler at woody instalation program. The Riva controler opens a green screen at the end of the load of the OS. how do i remove that? |
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| 23:25.43 | mobile | ...come to think of it, it was a Riva128 hardwired on the mobo... I had to put an onld Matrox millenium in a PCI slot to get woody up... |
| 23:26.03 | helix | cafuego: the boys are home, sans testicles |
| 23:26.06 | Ser_SimpleS | mobile no clues then? |
| 23:26.12 | petemc | Ser_SimpleS: that doesnt make a whole lot of sense, have you installed a display manager causing x to start when you havent got it configured yet? |
| 23:26.35 | cafuego | helix: too bad you're a vegetarian... pasta and meatballs for dinner otherwise. |
| 23:26.43 | helix | cafuego: haha, you're a sick man |
| 23:26.57 | cafuego | helix: it's a custom in some aprts of the world :-P |
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| 23:27.25 | sirReal | is gpm known to cause X to crash on exit? |
| 23:27.34 | cafuego | sirReal: nope |
| 23:27.34 | mobile | No. Think it was as much to do with the crappy mobo as the Riva |
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| 23:27.41 | Ser_SimpleS | patemc not really. at the instalation program theres a option that allow up to choose extra controlers for your hardware. I loaded onde for the VGA. The RIVA one. I have a Green screen after the system star's up and i must change consol and go back to the fisrt one to be able to see anythin. i belive it has to do with that contoler. |
| 23:27.54 | cafuego | helix: They recovered from their anaestetics yet? |
| 23:28.08 | sirReal | whenever I stop/restart X my screen fills with garbage and keyboard/mouse die. it's kinda frustrating |
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| 23:29.17 | helix | cafuego: nah, they're knocked out. max was pretty confused and groggy though.. walking around meowing, not knowing where he was |
| 23:29.25 | cafuego | helix: awww.... |
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| 23:29.45 | Ser_SimpleS | cafeugo can u help me out? |
| 23:29.49 | helix | cafuego: yeah, poor thing.. i think he hurts too, i can't put my hand anywhere near his bum |
| 23:29.59 | petemc | ! |
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| 23:30.11 | Rubin | geez we did that to my cat and he didnt even notice |
| 23:30.11 | beta3 | they finally got it working |
| 23:30.12 | helix | cafuego: but vladi was back to normal. he jumped out of the carrier purring and looking for food :) |
| 23:30.24 | cafuego | helix: Odd... when we had Mustafa done he just kept carrying on as if nothing had happened (though his voice still hasn't broken) |
| 23:30.41 | beta3 | cafuego: tried it with login relay instead of using default ip relay |
| 23:30.42 | mobile | Ser_SimpleS: Try just the generic VGA controller |
| 23:30.47 | beta3 | cafuego: worked like a charm |
| 23:30.48 | beta3 | :) |
| 23:30.51 | cafuego | helix: maybe the vet messed up with max. |
| 23:30.53 | Ser_SimpleS | mobile ok. how do i do that? |
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| 23:31.09 | helix | cafuego: maybe :( |
| 23:31.29 | mobile | Ser_SimpleS: It should be somewhere in the list. |
| 23:31.45 | tarzeau | apt-cache show crosshurd |
| 23:31.46 | Ser_SimpleS | mobile... ok. how do i do..... |
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| 23:32.12 | xinud | pcmcia slot no beep and modules are load correctly |
| 23:32.12 | helix | cafuego: they got their rabies shots too.. maybe that has something to do with it? |
| 23:32.15 | mobile | When you pick the driver. There's just something like "generic". Don't pick the Riva |
| 23:32.31 | helix | cafuego: vladi is more.. robust than max so maybe he can handle it better :/ |
| 23:32.43 | Ser_SimpleS | and by the way.. i remeber that i had to add sometngi to fstab so that num lock goes on at system startup... can anyone remeber me please? |
| 23:32.45 | beta3 | helix: how do you say: How do I get to downtown in Spanish? |
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| 23:33.09 | helix | hm |
| 23:33.18 | Ser_SimpleS | mobile yes. i understand. but where do i do that? must i install again? there must be a simple comand line thing to do, or a small app for that yes? |
| 23:33.42 | riis | How come I don't get any consoles when Debian boots? |
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| 23:34.00 | Ser_SimpleS | riis alt+f(12345) ? |
| 23:34.35 | helix | beta3: i have no idea what someone would use for 'downtown'.. maybe ciudad.. |
| 23:34.37 | riis | Ser_SimpleS: No, nothing happens, after postgre boots nothing happens..... |
| 23:34.37 | cafuego | helix: yeah, some cats cope better with vaccinations then others. |
| 23:34.46 | fusQuanto | [17:30] <helix> cafuego: but vladi was back to normal. he jumped out of the carrier purring and looking for food :) |
| 23:34.55 | Ser_SimpleS | riis does the system stops? |
| 23:34.56 | fusQuanto | purribng out of the carrier is not normal |
| 23:34.57 | mobile | Ser_SimpleS: Only way I know is reinstall, sorry |
| 23:34.58 | cafuego | helix: I have a friend whose cat is alleric to vaccines so he can't be vaccinated at all. |
| 23:34.59 | helix | cafuego: max slept for like 2 days after his first one so i'm hoping he's just sensitive |
| 23:35.09 | helix | cafuego: whoa, how did they find that out? |
| 23:35.19 | cafuego | helix: He nearly died twice. |
| 23:35.19 | helix | beta3: maybe como llego a la ciudad? |
| 23:35.20 | Ser_SimpleS | mobile thanks anyway. do u know how to make num lock start up? |
| 23:35.23 | helix | cafuego: jesus.. |
| 23:35.35 | helix | fusQuanto: heh, he's a happy go lucky cat :) |
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| 23:35.46 | mobile | no idea about numlock. I doubt it's fstab... thats for filesystems! |
| 23:35.52 | riis | Ser_SimpleS: well basicly yeah. I think if I wait long enough I'll get something from INIT about ids respawning too fast and that they've been disabled for 5 minutes... |
| 23:35.55 | cafuego | he's quite old as well, though. |
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| 23:36.25 | Ser_SimpleS | riis ... cant help... sorry :( |
| 23:36.31 | `9mm | I'm trying to figure out how to query installed packages, to find stuff like what binaries and libs it has installed using dpkg, does anyone know how? |
| 23:36.31 | riis | ok |
| 23:36.42 | `9mm | i've only managed to find dpkg -I and dpkg -l which aren't too helpful |
| 23:37.02 | Justin_ | `9mm: read the dpkg man page? |
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| 23:37.59 | `9mm | I am, but I can't find the right tag for it:S |
| 23:38.57 | Justin_ | and...? |
| 23:39.22 | cafuego | Hmm, konqueror crashing when you multiplex an mpeg is probably not a good thing |
| 23:39.33 | `9mm | and I was wondering if anyone here would be as kind as to help me out |
| 23:39.59 | Justin_ | `9mm: the man page tells you all the options, and what they all do... |
| 23:40.01 | `9mm | nm, got it |
| 23:40.03 | `9mm | :) |
| 23:40.08 | `9mm | -L, thnx i guess:P |
| 23:40.18 | Justin_ | -L... which is right under -l |
| 23:40.30 | Justin_ | er, 2 lines above to be exact |
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| 23:41.51 | qwerty_ | What is the name of the program that manages suid files for apt? |
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| 23:43.12 | DaCa | waar ik ook aan gedacht heb is om, wanneer we de domainnaam hebben, om elk lid een nickname@lugwv.be forward te geven |
| 23:43.19 | DaCa | oops |
| 23:43.34 | Matthew_I | how can I ascii 24? |
| 23:43.36 | Ser_SimpleS | how to turn num lock on at start up? |
| 23:43.41 | Justin_ | Ser_SimpleS: press num lock |
| 23:43.42 | The_Vulture | Matthew_I: ascii is not a verb |
| 23:44.02 | Matthew_I | how can I write ascii char 24 in a text file? |
| 23:44.10 | Ser_SimpleS | justin_ funny guy, auto way |
| 23:44.20 | tarzeau | hi helix |
| 23:44.25 | qwerty_ | Ser_SimpleS the answer is on linux.com, I once had it in my .bashrc but dont remember it. |
| 23:44.33 | Ser_SimpleS | INITTY=/dev/tty[1-8] |
| 23:44.33 | Ser_SimpleS | for tty in $INITTY; do |
| 23:44.33 | Ser_SimpleS | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.33 | Ser_SimpleS | done |
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| 23:44.35 | Justin_ | Ser_SimpleS: you could also like, just hit numlock |
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| 23:44.54 | Ser_SimpleS | sorry ... flod... |
| 23:44.58 | Ser_SimpleS | is that it? |
| 23:45.08 | qwerty_ | Justin_ in some communist countrys thats illegal, he might be from one so show some sempathy. |
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| 23:45.10 | sussudio | Ser_SimpleS: don't be sorry, just don't do it. |
| 23:45.14 | kronix | anyone know if there's an issue with gnome in sid, my gnome panel keeps crashing |
| 23:45.25 | sussudio | kronix: waah waah |
| 23:45.26 | dondelelcaro | kronix: check the btw. |
| 23:45.28 | dondelelcaro | kronix: check the bts. |
| 23:45.29 | qwerty_ | Ser_SimpleS that seems right, its been 3 years. |
| 23:45.33 | sussudio | !tell kronix about bts |
| 23:45.43 | Nitrocld | the ATI driver in X sucks huh? |
| 23:45.58 | g4lt | Nitrocld I wouldn't say that... |
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| 23:46.15 | Ser_SimpleS | where can i find the rc.local file? |
| 23:46.17 | Ahri | how can i unzip every zip file in the current directory? i'm using bash, and tried the following (i even tried sticking double quotes around $a, to no avail - the problem seems to be the spaces in filenames): for i in `ls *.zip`; do unzip $a; done |
| 23:46.22 | g4lt | in fact, my experience is quite the opposite |
| 23:46.23 | riis | do I need to do somthing to make woody work with devfs (and the 2.6 kernel....)? |
| 23:46.23 | Ser_SimpleS | is it in the user. profile? |
| 23:46.27 | Justin_ | Ahri: unp *.zip |
| 23:46.34 | Ahri | er, that should be "for a in" :) |
| 23:46.41 | dondelelcaro | riis: you need an updated module-init-tools. |
| 23:46.46 | qwerty_ | Ahri find . -maxdepth=1 -name \*zip -exec unzip "{}" ";" |
| 23:47.05 | riis | dondelelcaro: I have that, do I have to make any changes to the FS? |
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| 23:47.10 | deadcat | does "export BROWSER=/usr/bin/dillo" work? so when i click on a link it uses dillo rather than firebird? |
| 23:47.10 | dondelelcaro | riis: no. |
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| 23:47.20 | Nitrocld | holy cow |
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| 23:47.30 | Nitrocld | my god |
| 23:47.32 | fusQuanto | nice |
| 23:47.35 | Ser_SimpleS | dondelelcaro do u have any idea how to change VGA controler if no X is instaled? i get a green screen afeter system boot. |
| 23:47.41 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: sure, but you might as well update your alternatives to use sensible-browser |
| 23:47.54 | riis | dondelelco: Well my init messes up after the init-scripts have been run, so I googled and they said it might be a devfs problem.... |
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| 23:48.10 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: meaning dont install mozilla-firebird at all? |
| 23:48.12 | dondelelcaro | riis: if you're using devfs, you might have an issue. 2.6 doesn't have devfs. |
| 23:48.12 | Ahri | Justin_: thanks :) |
| 23:48.39 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: no, meaning configure your alternatives so dillo is ahead of firebird. |
| 23:48.40 | Blissex | dondelelcaro: 2.6.x has devfs and it will have it for a long time... Even if you can use something new. |
| 23:48.48 | Ser_SimpleS | i will be backk |
| 23:48.55 | riis | dondelelcaro: huh? |
| 23:48.57 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ok.. /etc/alternative right? |
| 23:48.57 | Ser_SimpleS | thanks guys... |
| 23:49.15 | dondelelcaro | Blissex: hrm. I thought they were going to udevfs... |
| 23:49.26 | dondelelcaro | *shrug* |
| 23:49.34 | Blissex | Ser_SimpleS: to change which VGA card is used at boot, either there is a BIOS entry or you must swap around the card in their slots. |
| 23:49.45 | riis | Blissex: do you know what's wrong with my system then? |
| 23:49.55 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: nah, update-alternatives --configure |
| 23:49.56 | Blissex | dondelelcaro: eventually... When it gets finished. But the word is that 'devfs' will not be removed. |
| 23:50.02 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: k |
| 23:50.10 | dondelelcaro | Blissex: I've heard people claim both ways. |
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| 23:50.39 | Blissex | riis: sorry, I haven't been following your thread. What's the problem again? |
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| 23:51.01 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: you want soy sauce with that? |
| 23:51.17 | dondelelcaro | sussudio: mit sodium... |
| 23:51.28 | dondelelcaro | natrium chloride... |
| 23:51.29 | eeyore- | oh my lord ... i just "rpm -Uvh /tmp/[...].deb". RH has gotten to me! |
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| 23:51.47 | Nitrocld | g4lt: how does the ATI driver not suck, I get 3x the performance with fbdev |
| 23:51.50 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: monosodiumglutamate |
| 23:51.50 | riis | Blissex: nothing happens after the initscripts and after a while Init will tell me that id "<number>" was respawning too fast and that it's disabled for 5 minutes....this means I don't get to a shell..... |
| 23:52.23 | De_Mon | hehe i love bx quit messages |
| 23:52.32 | riis | Blissex: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0306.3/0640.html this thread describes the issue I think |
| 23:53.10 | g4lt | Nitrocld apparently your issue is PEBCAK |
| 23:53.10 | riis | Blissex, didn't read that properly sorry, i'll try it |
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| 23:53.25 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that e has spontaneously moved a few characters to the left. |
| 23:53.26 | Nitrocld | g4lt: I don't even know what you just said |
| 23:53.45 | deadcat | when i am running esd in the bg and try to "play file.wav", it waits. is it because its trying to play directly to /dev/dsp? any fix? my soundcard on the laptop is a maestro. |
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| 23:54.19 | Blissex | riis: "respwaning too fast" can have a lot of causes... |
| 23:54.28 | Xenguy | Nitrocld: he's being umm, uncomplimentary |
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| 23:54.54 | riis | Blissex: well I'll try to setup the devfsd and try again.... |
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| 23:55.35 | Blissex | riis: what _could_ be happening is that your '/dev' directory is empty, and therefore the 'console' can't be found. |
| 23:55.40 | Xenguy | De_Mon: I hate BX quit msg's ;-) |
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| 23:55.56 | Xenguy | De_Mon: I tell everyone - use irssi instead |
| 23:55.56 | dondelelcaro | Xenguy: you need cafuego's script. |
| 23:56.05 | dondelelcaro | Xenguy: 15:52 -!- Irssi: Stopped moron BitchX message from qwerty_ [394] |
| 23:56.09 | Blissex | riis: so perhaps you should have 'devfs=mount' among the boot parameters of the kernel. |
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| 23:56.18 | Xenguy | dondelelcaro: excellent :-) |
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| 23:56.37 | Nitrocld | My CMOS configuration screen shows the temperature of my CPU and fan speed, but I can't seem to find that infomation in /proc |
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| 23:56.49 | dondelelcaro | Xenguy: use at your own risk, of course. ;-) |
| 23:56.54 | Xenguy | hehe |
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| 23:56.58 | riis | Blissex: I'm running 2.6 and I don't have to do that with my gentoo system, so I shouldn't need to do it in this case should I? |
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| 23:57.33 | riis | How do i setup devfsd to start at boot (without doing it manually)? |
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| 23:58.52 | ljlane | riis, simply installing the package takes care of that |
| 23:58.57 | emitchlpd | I'm getting some weird characters in thunderbird and mozilla in sid; little icon looking things. Is that just that it's using the wrong character set in those applications, or could it be deeper? |
| 23:59.09 | Blissex | riis: the problem is that _you cannot start devfsd at boot manually_. But 'devfsd' is only necessary to create compatbility entries. |
| 23:59.31 | riis | ljlane: ok, how about the makedev scripts that's in some of the default init levels is that OK, or should i remove it? |
| 23:59.37 | Xenguy | dondelelcaro: dcc isn't working (maybe my firewall?) - no worries |
| 23:59.59 | dondelelcaro | Xenguy: eh, cafuego has it up somewhere... |
