| 00:00.05 | LSorensen | steves: athlon 700, kt133 chipset, sb live, nvidia tnt2. runs great. |
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| 00:00.35 | steves | is it one of those micorsoft/intel things? have to update the HW to run the OS? |
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| 00:01.13 | LSorensen | steves: I didn't have to. |
| 00:01.18 | LSorensen | steves: this machine isn't new |
| 00:01.18 | wolfman2000 | evening |
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| 00:01.41 | sub_pop | is there any options for apt that allow me to view the debian changelogs of pacakges flagged to be upgraded? |
| 00:01.42 | cafuego | steves: if it's faster than a 468/33 it will run fine. |
| 00:01.49 | wolfman2000 | Out of couriosity, is mesa supposed to be an alternative or something to, say, an nvidia gl upgrade? |
| 00:01.50 | cafuego | steves: if it's slower, it will run fine too. |
| 00:02.04 | likosin | Does anyone have any idea about my problem? |
| 00:02.05 | buckwad | sub_pop: dpkg-listchanges will do that |
| 00:02.19 | gregap | anyone have experience editing text fonts? |
| 00:02.25 | kjm | likosin : what problem? |
| 00:02.25 | cafuego | wolfman2000: mesa is the open implementation |
| 00:02.37 | buckwad | sub_pop: there's another dpkg-something that will also list bugs filed against packages to be upgraded |
| 00:02.48 | LSorensen | likosin: ignoring the release file is harmless |
| 00:02.52 | cafuego | dpkg-listbugs ? |
| 00:03.12 | wolfman2000 | should I have most of my programs go through mesa then, instead of nvidia? (I do own a nvidia GeForce 2) |
| 00:03.26 | cafuego | wolfman2000: no |
| 00:03.26 | eeyore-_ | baid: sorry, i have no experience with 2.6.x at all |
| 00:03.33 | cafuego | wolfman2000: the open nvidia driver won't do 3D |
| 00:03.37 | steves | what is the best way to load sarge? i started with a base install of woody "with minimum packages" then did a dist-upgrade before adding X or attempting to configure sound, cd burners, etc. was this the wrong approach? |
| 00:03.45 | hlag | dpkg: hlag |
| 00:03.45 | dpkg | hlag: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 00:03.49 | wiak | how do i run dhcp in debian? |
| 00:03.49 | wiak | :P |
| 00:03.54 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: if your X has DRI hardware support it should use that, and it if doesn't it should fall back to software mesa |
| 00:03.54 | hlag | dpkg: xfree86 |
| 00:03.54 | dpkg | from memory, xfree86 is proof that world has gone mad, or a free open-source implementation of X11. http://www.xfree86.org/ or ask me about "install xf4" or "potato xf4" |
| 00:03.58 | buckwad | cafuego: it's apt-listbugs I guess |
| 00:04.00 | hlag | dpkg: install xf4 |
| 00:04.00 | dpkg | rumour has it, install xf4 is apt-get install read-edid mdetect discover; apt-get install x-window-system-core (plus whatever window manager you like, etc.), or ask me about "set up x", or "configure xf4", or "potato xf4" |
| 00:04.03 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: I have never had to tell it one way or the other |
| 00:04.03 | cafuego | wiak: man 5 interfaces |
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| 00:04.19 | wolfman2000 | where can I check to see if it supports DRI? |
| 00:04.21 | LSorensen | wiak: client or server |
| 00:04.23 | wiak | i DONT have man |
| 00:04.24 | wiak | damn! |
| 00:04.26 | buckwad | sub_pop: apt-listchanges and apt-listbugs |
| 00:04.29 | wiak | client |
| 00:04.30 | cafuego | wolfman2000: glxinfo |
| 00:04.54 | cafuego | wiak: auto eth0\niface eth0 inet dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:05.00 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: it does if you are running nvidia's binary drivers. It does not if you run the plain xfree86 drivers |
| 00:05.00 | wolfman2000 | what do I look for in here? something that says DRI? |
| 00:05.18 | cafuego | wolfman2000: "direct rendering: Yes" |
| 00:05.20 | sub_pop | hmm thanks buckwad |
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| 00:05.27 | wolfman2000 | direct rendering is on yes |
| 00:05.37 | Infohawk | Hello, what debs do I need to compile kde apps? I downloaded qt3-dev-mt but I'm still getting messages from ./configure about qt > 3.0 |
| 00:05.38 | nukem | wolfman2000: ...william? |
| 00:05.46 | wolfman2000 | nope |
| 00:05.53 | nukem | wow.. k nm |
| 00:05.58 | wolfman2000 | might be a different wolf |
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| 00:06.03 | nukem | yeah |
| 00:06.06 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: does it have a vendor string near the start? |
| 00:06.12 | wiak | cafuego: how do i read man if i have only base system? moo |
| 00:06.23 | wolfman2000 | server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation |
| 00:06.28 | wolfman2000 | i think that is what you mean |
| 00:06.42 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: then you must be running the nvidia binary drivers |
| 00:06.45 | cafuego | wolfman2000: You're using nvidia glx then, the closed source driver. |
| 00:06.50 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: pretty sure at least |
| 00:07.14 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: do you see opengl version string: ? |
| 00:07.28 | wolfman2000 | OpenGL version string: 1.4.0 NVIDIA 43.63 |
| 00:07.36 | wolfman2000 | all later versions are buggy |
| 00:07.38 | nukem | wolfman2000: what are you trying to do? install nvidia drivers? |
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| 00:07.43 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: yep. that's the nvidia for sure |
| 00:07.43 | wolfman2000 | no |
| 00:07.49 | nukem | comment out GLcore and dri in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 00:07.50 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: I run 5336 |
| 00:08.00 | wolfman2000 | what i am trying to do is clean up my hard drive a bit, and see which implimentation I need |
| 00:08.08 | wolfman2000 | 5336 runs all direct rendering stuff super slow |
| 00:08.12 | cafuego | OpenGL version string: 1.4.1 NVIDIA 53.36 |
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| 00:08.22 | wolfman2000 | many programs for me ran at 1 FPS on 5336 |
| 00:08.26 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: really. I hadn't noticed. |
| 00:08.35 | cafuego | wolfman2000: 5336 is fine here |
| 00:08.40 | steves | LSorensen: what is the best way to load sarge? i started with a base install of woody "with minimum packages" then did a dist-upgrade before adding X or attempting to configure sound, cd burners, etc. was this the wrong approach? |
| 00:08.44 | wolfman2000 | might have been just my strange system then |
| 00:08.46 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: mine run quite fast and I only have a TNT2 |
| 00:08.54 | wolfman2000 | still, the nvidia version I have is irrelivant |
| 00:08.59 | patter | has anyone else noticed sarge's apache (1.3.29) responding on odd ports? |
| 00:09.04 | chris` | 5336 runs great here |
| 00:09.05 | LSorensen | steves: nothing wrong with that approach |
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| 00:09.07 | wolfman2000 | what is the main difference between mesa and nvidia, and which should I have? |
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| 00:09.12 | wolfman2000 | besides open/closed source |
| 00:09.21 | cafuego | patter: Nope.. but then, sarge doesn't generally get security updates. |
| 00:09.33 | cafuego | wolfman2000: You should use the one which works best. |
| 00:09.39 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: mesa renders on software on the cpu. nvidia renders in hardware on the gpu |
| 00:09.46 | asg | patter: use fuser or lsof to find out what is though |
| 00:10.13 | wolfman2000 | I have some stuff that only works on mesa (audacity), and other that seems to only work on nvidia (stepmania) |
| 00:10.22 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: and x86 is not a very impresive 3D calculations engine :) |
| 00:10.31 | Infohawk | What qt packages do I need to get rid of this error message? I already got qt-dev-mt... checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! |
| 00:10.40 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: stepmania in debian? |
| 00:10.43 | wolfman2000 | yep |
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| 00:10.50 | steves | oh, well, quitting time. i'll erase it all next week and start over. |
| 00:10.58 | wolfman2000 | it's been on linux for some time, actually |
| 00:11.07 | wolfman2000 | you have to deal with alpha builds or the source itself, though |
| 00:11.11 | jetscreamer | should i start with apache or apache2 |
| 00:11.26 | patter | just as a sample - 130.239.18.160 - - [04/Feb/2004:23:49:06 +0000] "POST http://130.239.18.160:802/ HTTP/1.0" 200 4765 "-" "-" |
| 00:11.38 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: so no stepmania in debian |
| 00:11.48 | wolfman2000 | stepmania does work on debian |
| 00:11.55 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: installing audacity to see what it thinks on my nvidia |
| 00:11.56 | wolfman2000 | just get the alphas or the source, then ./configure and make |
| 00:11.59 | asg | Infohawk: libqt3-mt-dev or ask in #debian-kde |
| 00:12.06 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: but no package is what I meant |
| 00:12.12 | wolfman2000 | no package is correct |
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| 00:12.23 | liu7 | when i boot the installer disk I get a kernel panic |
| 00:13.07 | asg | liu7: which installer, the woody one or sarge beta? |
| 00:13.07 | LSorensen | liu7: that's impresive |
| 00:13.16 | liu7 | woody |
| 00:13.17 | LSorensen | liu7: at what point does it panic? |
| 00:13.23 | freexm | e.g. tuxracer won't work as should, the screen is in disorder and the same occures with circus linux - i have radeon 9200 and all xlibmesa4 is installed, what to do? |
| 00:13.57 | liu7 | right after it tries to detect paritions |
| 00:14.00 | liu7 | on the drives |
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| 00:14.24 | hlag | so, how can i get drm support, on xfree 4.3? |
| 00:14.29 | LSorensen | liu7: using the 2.4 or 2.2 kernel boot disk? |
| 00:14.29 | hlag | ( 4.2 comes with debian, even unstable ) |
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| 00:14.39 | liu7 | 2.4 |
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| 00:14.50 | LSorensen | liu7: any chance the machine uses MS dynamic disk partitioning? |
| 00:14.56 | liu7 | nope |
| 00:15.07 | LSorensen | hlag: on nvidia you install their driver and it works |
| 00:15.16 | hlag | radeon |
| 00:15.26 | hlag | i have drm support compiled into the 2.6.2 kernel |
| 00:15.31 | LSorensen | hlag: install ati's driver maybe? |
| 00:15.47 | hlag | don't see it as a package |
| 00:15.55 | hlag | but, there's no way to install 4.3 and tell it to use ati drm ? |
| 00:16.17 | beta3 | asg: Im about to blow up this stupid mod_python |
| 00:16.38 | liu7 | its about to boot again |
| 00:16.43 | jetscreamer | should i start learning with apache or apache2 |
| 00:17.20 | hlag | that's awesome. |
| 00:17.27 | hlag | xf4.2 does not support radeon it seems |
| 00:17.31 | LSorensen | jetscreamer: apache is what most people use since it is well known and supports all the modules. apache2 only has a few modules working so far |
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| 00:17.46 | asg | beta3: like I said, I've had issues with it in the past :) |
| 00:17.46 | jetscreamer | k thx |
| 00:17.46 | LSorensen | hlag: no it doesn't most likely. |
| 00:17.54 | dragonbyte | anyone know why gpilotd would segfault when told to use a usb device, or randomly lock up the machine? |
| 00:17.56 | LSorensen | !xsf |
| 00:17.56 | dpkg | i heard xsf is the X Strike Force, home of Debian's XFree86 packages, at http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |
| 00:18.00 | asg | beta3: mostly dealing with XML and MS-SQL integration |
| 00:18.04 | beta3 | asg: at the current moment in time, to keep svn around, I need someway of keeping apache2 around, apache1 is far more stable and you can tell |
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| 00:18.26 | beta3 | asg: I think Im gonna run it on 8080 |
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| 00:18.46 | asg | beta3: good idea if you need somthing solid on 80 |
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| 00:19.02 | liu7 | i guess i should try a different installer? |
| 00:19.10 | beta3 | asg: I want php back |
| 00:19.11 | beta3 | :) |
| 00:19.21 | asg | beta3: I've always liked it. |
| 00:19.22 | liu7 | it says Bad EIP value |
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| 00:19.58 | alteclansing | Hello. I am trying to dial into my ISP using ppp and a chat script, but I am encountering few problems. First of all, my ISP requires that I use a login script to connect so I wrote one in chat. I then configured my ppp according to different online manuals. Now, when i execute pppd it seems to dial the number, however when it gets to chat the logs shows that chat program never receive the proper promp. I've included the log and the config file in |
| 00:19.58 | alteclansing | the following link, http://pastebin.com/39198 |
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| 00:20.58 | liu7 | I booted from this http://people.debian.org/~dwhedon/boot-floppies/ |
| 00:21.15 | dragonbyte | does anyone here use gpilotd or have had any problems with it? |
| 00:21.16 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: Hmm, audacity complains about not being able to open the sound device. How weird |
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| 00:21.37 | wolfman2000 | so audacity requires mesa then |
| 00:21.53 | wolfman2000 | hmmm......can most everything run in mesa, but not on nvidia? |
| 00:22.08 | dung | if the sco lawsuit is successful will debian switch to hurd? |
| 00:22.26 | asg | dung: probably not |
| 00:22.34 | beta3 | dung: the lawsuit will dies when SCO runs out of loot after IBM sues them to death |
| 00:22.48 | beta3 | they could keep this in courts for years |
| 00:22.53 | ircdevil | apt sco |
| 00:22.55 | | rumour has it, sco is the new name for Caldera, and they're making right fools of themselves, or the antichrist |
| 00:22.57 | asg | dung: if sco finally tells the lk people what's wrong, they'll just rip it out |
| 00:23.00 | dragonbyte | dung: so what if they win? I imagine when it finally comes out the code will be ripped out of the kernel pretty quickly |
| 00:23.00 | simonrvn | dung: sco suit successful? hehehe |
| 00:23.17 | asg | simonrvn: it might be, Bush is president after all |
| 00:23.43 | beta3 | asg: no, Schwarzneggar is govenor of California, thats even more of an amazment |
| 00:23.45 | g4lt | asg he won't be ;) |
| 00:23.59 | asg | g4lt: :) |
| 00:24.06 | beta3 | g4lt: kerry nor Dean have a chance against bush unless he does something illegal |
| 00:24.07 | ircdevil | the govenator IV |
| 00:24.08 | asg | beta3: not really, it's california after all |
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| 00:24.37 | g4lt | beta3 s/does/gets caught doing/ he DOES illegal shit all th time |
| 00:24.39 | jojako15 | how do i change the partition from ext2 to ext3? |
| 00:24.44 | ozzonn | hi everybdy |
| 00:24.46 | beta3 | g4lt: lol |
| 00:24.50 | asg | jojako15: /msg dpkg ext2->ext3 |
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| 00:25.09 | asg | g4lt: well, his daughters do at any rate :) |
| 00:25.12 | jojako15 | and can fat32 be written on by ext3 without error? |
| 00:25.20 | jojako15 | cfdisk doesnt have an option for ext3 |
| 00:25.27 | jaimos | anyone know of a gui or nice dialog format program to configure an ethernet card (I need something for my sisters laptop so she doesn't have to directly modify /etc/network/interfaces because that might be a bit much for her at this time. |
| 00:25.29 | simonrvn | asg: bush has offspring? eew |
| 00:25.33 | ozzonn | some knows how to get an image with pinnacle pctv card ? (all configured, scans channels, shows thumbs) |
| 00:25.43 | ozzonn | and motv software |
| 00:25.46 | asg | simonrvn: yes, they party like 'cancun unleashed' apparently |
| 00:25.48 | eeyore-_ | jojako15: that does not make sense (fat32 be written on by ext3) |
| 00:25.57 | sertmann | Anyone here who got a logitech cordless wheelmouse working in a 2.6.X kernel.... been Struggeling with it for ages... |
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| 00:26.08 | simonrvn | asg: some people should *not* reproduce.. |
| 00:26.09 | eeyore-_ | ozzonn: mythtv? www.mythtv.org |
| 00:26.14 | Infohawk | What does it mean if a package has a v next to it in aptitude? |
| 00:26.29 | ozzonn | eeyore-_: then i will try this, tnx |
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| 00:26.31 | asg | simonrvn: they are welcome to as long as they don't influence my life |
| 00:26.33 | eeyore-_ | sertmann: many different ones, use imps2 protocol, /dev/psaux (or usb if you want) |
| 00:26.47 | ozzonn | maybe motv is crappy (even if in debian apt packages) |
| 00:26.47 | asg | simonrvn: otherwise, I have to get the cluebat |
| 00:26.57 | dragonbyte | sertmann: i have a logitech wheel mouse but its not wireless |
| 00:27.12 | eeyore-_ | ozzonn: mythtv can be a pain in the ass to set up, but could be worth the effort |
| 00:27.27 | simonrvn | asg: agreed |
| 00:27.30 | sertmann | ok, cheers, ill try the imps2 protocol--- |
| 00:27.43 | cafuego | exps2 actually |
| 00:28.02 | simonrvn | sco troll |
| 00:28.04 | dragonbyte | how do i install a source package? |
| 00:28.10 | chickeneater | I need to know how to set up kernel 2.4.20 for grub |
| 00:28.12 | ozzonn | eeyore-_: lol i just want to watch tv a bit, without booting windoz |
| 00:28.19 | cafuego | simonrvn: you are? |
| 00:28.25 | sertmann | eeyore: i only have psaux in /dev/misc/psaux, same thing right...= |
| 00:28.25 | asg | cafuego: heh |
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| 00:28.28 | simonrvn | cafuego: ... |
| 00:28.31 | chickeneater | anybody know the grub.conf? |
| 00:28.36 | beta3 | are there any howtos for setting up Mod_Python |
| 00:28.40 | cafuego | simonrvn: ?! |
| 00:28.50 | simonrvn | cafuego: fartfish |
| 00:28.50 | ozzonn | dragonbyte: a .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 ? |
| 00:28.51 | cafuego | chickeneater: there's a sample in /usr/share/doc/grub/ |
| 00:28.54 | asg | !peterSsmite cafuego |
| 00:28.58 | chickeneater | ok |
| 00:29.01 | chickeneater | thanks |
| 00:29.06 | bob2 | beta3: libapache-mod-python-doc |
| 00:29.11 | beta3 | bob2: word, thanks |
| 00:29.13 | bob2 | dragonbyte: apt-get source whatever |
| 00:29.29 | peterS | asg: it doesn't work that way |
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| 00:29.42 | peterS | asg: I'm an easygoing guy who would never smite people for no reason. |
| 00:29.45 | asg | peterS: I was talking about excessive punctuation |
| 00:29.55 | asg | peterS: (: |
| 00:30.03 | eeyore-_ | ozzonn: if you just want to watch tv, xawtv should be just fine |
| 00:30.08 | asg | peterS: sorry to 'ping' you btw |
| 00:30.10 | eeyore-_ | ozzonn: mythtv is for personal video recording and stuff |
| 00:30.21 | simonrvn | !peterSsmite |
| 00:30.23 | peterS | asg: heh |
| 00:30.29 | eeyore-_ | sertma: run devfsd to save yourself headache later |
| 00:30.29 | simonrvn | !peterS |
| 00:30.30 | dpkg | it has been said that peters is tired |
| 00:30.45 | cafuego | !peterSsmite asg |
| 00:30.45 | hlag | okay |
| 00:30.53 | hlag | now X is complaining about libGLcore |
| 00:31.02 | peterS | cafuego: hey that's not fair |
| 00:31.12 | simonrvn | !forget peterSsmite |
| 00:31.12 | dpkg | i didn't have anything called 'peterssmite', simonrvn |
| 00:31.13 | peterS | cafuego: other people don't get smitten by their own smite commands |
| 00:31.13 | cafuego | !peterSsmite peterS |
| 00:31.29 | peterS | !forget cmd: peterssmite (.*?) |
| 00:31.30 | dpkg | peterS: i forgot CMD: peterssmite (.*?) |
| 00:31.32 | Justin_ | !+xawtv |
| 00:31.32 | dpkg | it has been said that xawtv is used to watch tv in X. You need bttv or video4linux. or at http://www.in-berlin.de/User/kraxel/xawtv.html, or xawtv sucks and you should use tvtime |
| 00:31.33 | chickeneater | cafuego: I am in fedora on hdb2 right now and I mounted hda2 (debian) to /mnt/hda2 but ls doesn't show anything there |
| 00:31.33 | simonrvn | !forget cmd: peterSsmite (.*?) |
| 00:31.34 | dpkg | i didn't have anything called 'CMD: peterssmite (.*?)', simonrvn |
| 00:31.36 | cafuego | !peterSsmite asg!literal cmd: peterssmite (.*?) |
| 00:31.49 | cafuego | bah |
| 00:31.51 | chickeneater | nevermind |
| 00:31.56 | cafuego | literal cmd: peterSsmite (.*?) is ($1): <action> (pretends $1 has a headache|smites peterS with $1|coughs at $1 convincingly) |
| 00:31.56 | chickeneater | I got it |
| 00:32.04 | simonrvn | !forget cmd: peterSsmite (.*?) |
| 00:32.04 | dpkg | i didn't have anything called 'CMD: peterssmite (.*?)', simonrvn |
| 00:32.10 | LighthouseJ | I know this is simple, but X says "could not open default font 'fixed'", what am I doing wrong? |
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| 00:32.32 | cafuego | simonrvn: peterS wiped it already |
| 00:32.34 | jojako15 | anoyone here talk? |
| 00:32.37 | asg | cafuego: maybe add 'say peterS, click your heels three times, and voila!' |
| 00:32.42 | decaf | LighthouseJ: you need fonts, at least xfonts-base package |
| 00:32.49 | asg | jojako15: yes, you just don't listen. |
| 00:32.51 | simonrvn | !no peterSsmite is <reply>I'm an easygoing guy who would never smite people for no reason. |
| 00:32.51 | dpkg | simonrvn: okay |
| 00:32.55 | trans_err | wow kde 3.2 is looking really smooth |
| 00:32.57 | peterS | asg: well, the heel clicking is just pageantry |
| 00:33.00 | cafuego | jojako15: No, we all hum |
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| 00:33.12 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: audacity is running on my TNT2 using the nvidia drivers just fine. I haven't done anything to mesa though |
| 00:33.14 | asg | peterS: true but it makes a nice protocol |
| 00:33.15 | simonrvn | ;D |
| 00:33.21 | chickeneater | cafuego: I don't have a /mnt/hda2/usr/share/doc/grub |
| 00:33.25 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: I see nothing using opengl in it either |
| 00:33.27 | peterS | !peterSsmite =~ s/I'm/<peterS> I'm/ |
| 00:33.28 | dpkg | peterS: OK |
| 00:33.42 | asg | cafuego: he's asked that many times today. People have answered and he doesn't seem to notice. I think he's ircing with -bg black -fb black |
| 00:33.48 | LighthouseJ | decaf, apt-get says I already have the newest version, I think I need to run mkfontdir. |
| 00:33.52 | simonrvn | asg: hehe |
| 00:33.58 | chickeneater | cafuego: debian installed lilo and didn't give me a choice of grub |
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| 00:34.07 | LighthouseJ | apt-get is doing some setting up now though, so we'll see. |
| 00:34.13 | wolfman2000 | the strange thing is that mesa is set up to use audacity, but I think audacity would run better on nvidia...and I can't remove audacity without removing mesa |
| 00:34.13 | Mag007 | with 2.6.2 how do I automatically load the kernel modules? |
| 00:34.17 | cafuego | chickeneater: well DUH!!!! |
| 00:34.22 | wolfman2000 | the same kind of goes for various other packages like x-windows-system |
| 00:34.22 | pro | how can I see how much video ram my display card has got? i tried with lspci -vv but it says 512k or 128M, but im not 100% sure about that |
| 00:34.28 | simonrvn | Mag007: RTFM. modprobe |
| 00:34.29 | cafuego | chickeneater: wtf do you need a cfg file for if you don't actually *have* grub. |
| 00:34.40 | cafuego | peterS: what card is it? |
| 00:34.42 | Mag007 | simonrvn, man modprobe? |
| 00:34.43 | chickeneater | cafuego: I have grub running from fedora |
| 00:34.44 | unixfool` | whats a tool that I can use to display my X somewhere else? (I don't want use VNC because its starts its own X server) |
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| 00:34.46 | ozzonn | eeyore-_: lol mythtv is really raw source !! |
| 00:34.49 | cafuego | s/peterS/pro/ |
| 00:34.56 | asg | simonrvn: It's almost funny but he seems genuinely upset that nobody is talking to him and ... well ... we have. ?!? |
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| 00:35.01 | trans_err | unixfool`: X |
| 00:35.02 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: hmm. |
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| 00:35.05 | cafuego | unixfool`: X |
| 00:35.10 | simonrvn | asg: like duh :) |
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| 00:35.17 | chickeneater | cafuego: and I also did an apt-get install grub |
| 00:35.20 | chickeneater | and remove lilo |
| 00:35.22 | unixfool` | trans_err: cafuego: docs? pointers? |
| 00:35.22 | trans_err | cafuego: great minds think alike |
| 00:35.24 | cafuego | chickeneater: You would be on the wrong channel, then. |
| 00:35.24 | ozzonn | eeyore-_: moreover i got no image because i got no overlay support :s i just seen that it can run wothout overlay |
| 00:35.32 | asg | simonrvn: :) |
| 00:35.36 | chickeneater | cafuego: which channel? |
| 00:35.42 | LSorensen | wolfman2000: audacity does not depend on any mesa packages at all according to apt. It sure doesn't appear to either |
| 00:35.43 | cafuego | unixfool`: startx on box; ssh -X otherbox; mozilla & |
| 00:35.46 | cafuego | chickeneater: #redhat |
| 00:35.53 | simonrvn | jojako15: CAN YOU SEE THIS? NOD ONCE TO SAY YES |
| 00:36.05 | pro | cafuego, not really sure, its an Intel Brookdale-G mother board |
| 00:36.09 | chickeneater | cafuego: but... this is for debian... |
| 00:36.11 | unixfool` | cafuego: I don't think you read my question |
| 00:36.24 | unixfool` | cafuego: I want to display my local X elsewhere, not display remote things locally |
| 00:36.26 | simonrvn | asg: maybe all of use DDoS him he'll notice :P (j/k) |
| 00:36.32 | cafuego | pro: probably built-in then... so you can probably assign vram from main ram via the bios. |
| 00:36.36 | simonrvn | ssuse/us/ |
| 00:36.38 | cafuego | pro: You shouldn't need to tell X, though. |
| 00:36.40 | simonrvn | s/use/us/ |
| 00:36.47 | trans_err | unixfool`: man X |
| 00:37.04 | pro | but i just found a site in german, i think, and it has info about this exact laptop, well from what I read there anyway |
| 00:37.10 | asg | simonrvn: If I was an OP I would bounce him with a message in the hopes that he got it? Dunno what to do. |
| 00:37.23 | trans_err | unixfool`: X hostname:displaynumber.screennumber |
| 00:37.37 | cafuego | unixfool`: As long as the remote box runs an X server you'll be fine. |
| 00:37.38 | pro | cafuego, nope the bios is very, very limited, you can set a passwd and choose to boot disk or CD |
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| 00:38.00 | cafuego | pro: I would hazard the default to be 8 or 16mb |
| 00:38.12 | simonrvn | asg: dunno. he's really lagged or something |
| 00:38.19 | cafuego | pro: What's the laptop btw? |
| 00:38.27 | LighthouseJ | well, X comes up. |
| 00:38.49 | asg | simonrvn: nafict |
| 00:39.04 | unixfool` | trans_err: cafuego: are you guys talking about displaying remote things locally or what? |
| 00:39.10 | dragonbyte | pro: xfree86 logs show how much mem it found |
| 00:39.20 | unixfool` | I want to show someone my desktop, and pretty pictures, and let them watch me work |
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| 00:39.26 | pro | cafuego: Mecer, 2.0G celeron. cd/dvd/cdrw usb+firewire, 14.1TFT, and a 40G hdd with 256M ram |
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| 00:39.33 | unixfool` | note: that I also need to be able to see X myself |
| 00:39.33 | cafuego | unixfool`: Depends on if you consider local remote or via versa. Either way X can do it without help. |
| 00:39.39 | simonrvn | asg: teehee |
| 00:39.43 | pro | dragonbyte: yeah, i know, but im still tring to get X to run |
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| 00:39.50 | asg | simonrvn: hopefully it will help |
| 00:39.54 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 00:39.56 | unixfool` | cafuego: ok, so i guess i just need to find out how to do multiple displays then |
| 00:40.08 | beta3 | asg: ok enough mod python |
| 00:40.12 | beta3 | asg: nothing else but crap |
| 00:40.18 | cafuego | unixfool`: Oh, you want to *clone* the display? |
| 00:40.19 | simonrvn | asg: unorthodox, but wtf. that's my middle name ;) |
| 00:40.30 | asg | simonrvn: only thing I could think of. |
| 00:40.47 | unixfool` | cafuego: well i need to be able to see my desktop too... ;) |
| 00:40.54 | asg | beta3: we'll store the data in an SQL db and use PHP for a web interface (if we choose to) |
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| 00:41.09 | beta3 | asg: ok, php probably makes a nice interface |
| 00:41.20 | cafuego | asg: What are you and beta3 wanting to develop btw? |
| 00:41.22 | beta3 | asg: it would be nice if we could interface directly with the python code tho |
| 00:41.29 | pro | cafuego: i think its a rebadged ACER Traveltate, well in germany thats what they are called |
| 00:41.30 | asg | cafuego: exim configurator with teeth |
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| 00:41.50 | cafuego | asg: dpkg --purge exim don't cut it? |
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| 00:41.53 | asg | cafuego: thinking of modeling the data with python objects and using introspection to generate guis on the fly |
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| 00:42.12 | beta3 | asg: sounds good |
| 00:42.14 | simonrvn | asg: sounds hot. i'll pitch in if you want help (i'm not expert, and can't code, but willing to learn, and willing to test) |
| 00:42.14 | asg | cafuego: more of a work sponsored project so it has outside influences |
| 00:42.16 | cafuego | pro: okay.. and the model (if it were a german one?) |
| 00:42.47 | beta3 | simonrvn: Im probably half your age and I can code, what does that say about you? |
| 00:43.08 | cafuego | beta3: What do you mean you can code? |
| 00:43.09 | simonrvn | beta3: i got into linux 1.5 years ago. what's your excuse? |
| 00:43.09 | pro | beta3, that you need to get a life? |
| 00:43.11 | proximacnt | I'm not even born, and I've written several operating systems |
| 00:43.17 | cafuego | beta3: i had to write a 5 line IP checker *for* you :-P |
| 00:43.28 | simonrvn | haha |
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| 00:43.31 | beta3 | cafuego: I rewrote the whole crappy bash script in python |
| 00:43.47 | beta3 | cafuego: it actually *work* |
| 00:43.48 | asg | simonrvn: sure, once we get something concrete going, we'll put up a gforge site or something. |
| 00:43.56 | cafuego | pro: ... or alternatively, what is that german webpage? |
| 00:43.59 | beta3 | asg: svn ... |
| 00:44.00 | nsmith | Hello i use a lexmark z22 printer i download c2050 and tried to print something but nothing happens its in a lpt port |
| 00:44.04 | pro | beta3: when you can write a SMTP or a HTTP server in bash, then you can code..... |
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| 00:44.11 | cafuego | beta3: C would make it sooo much faster. |
| 00:44.17 | simonrvn | beta3: besides, i never had the impression we're competing. frankly, i couldn't give a crap. bugger off |
| 00:44.26 | asg | simonrvn: I work mostly with Windows people so I'm pushed to provide easy to use interfaces (mostly cause they are scared I'll die on the way to work and they won't be able to fix things.) |
| 00:44.31 | cafuego | pro: an http server in bash is dead easy |
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| 00:44.34 | cafuego | pro: just retarded |
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| 00:44.37 | beta3 | cafuego: like I care, speed doesn't matter when an app is most likely run on cron |
| 00:44.43 | dragonbyte | pro: what about rewriting bind in HTML? |
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| 00:44.54 | cafuego | beta3: tell that to helix and her 6:30 cron job ;-) |
| 00:44.55 | proximacnt | No, you should use xhtml |
| 00:45.00 | proximacnt | Standards man, standards |
| 00:45.02 | nsmith | does anyone know anything about printing? |
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| 00:45.07 | pro | asg: i had that problem, try Xdialog, it makes them happy |
| 00:45.19 | simonrvn | asg: ah, ok. nm then. the x86 i have hasn't seen winbloze in years i think |
| 00:45.25 | nsmith | !apt printer |
| 00:45.29 | LSorensen | dragonbyte: HTML is a markup language, not a programing language |
| 00:45.30 | dragonbyte | does anyone here have gpilot working in SID? |
| 00:45.36 | asg | simonrvn: no, Python is portable |
| 00:45.44 | simonrvn | oh , python |
| 00:45.45 | nsmith | !apt printers |
| 00:45.46 | asg | pro: you haven't met these people :) |
| 00:45.54 | nsmith | hmm |
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| 00:46.00 | cafuego | nsmith: install cups |
| 00:46.00 | beta3 | simonrvn: Im sure you can learn python its simple |
| 00:46.02 | asg | simonrvn: mainly for quick rad data modeling |
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| 00:46.08 | nsmith | cafuego: okay |
| 00:46.12 | dragonbyte | LSorensen: ebay sells sarcasm parsers and humor senses :) |
| 00:46.29 | asg | simonrvn: plus, it gives me a chance to work with it beyond 'helloworld.py' |
| 00:46.29 | beta3 | asg: so many dam php frontends, but they are cronically slow |
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| 00:46.33 | pro | dragonbyte, cant do that, but i can write you a dynamic dns server in bash, with a ftp/mail/www+cgi interface to manage it |
| 00:46.40 | cafuego | pro: ... so how about that laptop? |
| 00:46.41 | beta3 | asg: don't u think we should carve this in some kind of gtk gui |
| 00:46.42 | simonrvn | beta3: i already started to, a bit. i can write simple sh and perl scripts and such. but nothing intense |
| 00:46.46 | asg | beta3: that's probably because they are shelling out |
| 00:46.51 | nsmith | cafuego: cupsys? |
| 00:46.52 | simonrvn | asg: :) |
| 00:46.56 | CWA- | boy do a have a stumper here...running Woody, have ppp & pptpd, when somebody portscans me i get an error message on the screen...i've disabled console logging, and even stopped syslogd and klogd, but these messages still show up on tty1 while logged in as root, any suggestions? |
| 00:47.02 | dragonbyte | pro: so maybe you can fix gpilotd for me :) |
| 00:47.04 | cafuego | nsmith: yep... and -bsd too, i think. |
| 00:47.11 | pro | what about it? 'tis my GF's |
| 00:47.14 | asg | beta3: if we code the engine and data model right, we can front any gui we like. |
| 00:47.15 | LSorensen | dragonbyte: I don't shop at ebay |
| 00:47.21 | beta3 | asg: ok |
| 00:47.43 | cafuego | CWA-: if you kill the log daemons, the kernel will log to the console, yes. |
| 00:47.49 | nsmith | cafuego: Alright ill give it a try was the c2050 necessary? |
| 00:47.49 | asg | beta3: I like the GTK bindings because the widgets are decent but wx or tk could be used in a pinch, or curses for that matter. |
| 00:47.50 | beta3 | asg: we need to have support for mysql/pgsql lookups so we can keep this to either those two |
| 00:47.57 | simonrvn | AFK, getting groceries |
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| 00:48.04 | beta3 | asg: wx is easy so it seems |
| 00:48.05 | asg | simonrvn: happy hunting |
| 00:48.08 | cafuego | nsmith: Say what? |
| 00:48.19 | asg | beta3: they all are basically the same. |
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| 00:48.27 | gImpybum | 'scuse me... in which package would i find 'mail' (the client) .. cos it seems to be this missing from this system, and syslogging daemons are grumbling :( |
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| 00:48.38 | CWA- | ok, i thought if i killed to two daemonds logs would the way of /dev/null |
| 00:48.40 | beta3 | asg: lets build the backend first |
| 00:48.43 | asg | gImpybum: /msg dpkg search |
| 00:48.45 | asg | beta3: agreed |
| 00:48.46 | FieldySnuts | odl is an Iraqi Continental Congress sniper |
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| 00:48.55 | pro | cafuego: my GF is running debian on it, i put a wireless card in it, and she's been links'ing and pine'ing and scrollz'ing and now wants gimp and firebird |
| 00:49.05 | cafuego | beta3: write a modular sql wrapper for basic functions (query, retrieval, ordering) |
| 00:49.05 | nsmith | cafuego: its drivers for lexmark 2000 or something |
| 00:49.09 | The_Vulture | imperitoo: apt-file search /usr/bin/mail, or packages.debian.org would tell you |
| 00:49.11 | CWA- | so then my question would be, how could i stop them from logging to the screen |
| 00:49.15 | beta3 | asg: the spec for exim4 is exuberant |
| 00:49.16 | beta3 | lol |
| 00:49.25 | cafuego | nsmith: cups may well support it out of the box |
| 00:49.29 | beta3 | cafuego: thats what we're going to do when asg has time to start the thing |
| 00:49.30 | asg | cafuego: don't worry, we'll have a generic data access layer |
| 00:49.51 | cafuego | nsmith: after installing cupsys, point a browser at http://lcoalhost:631/ and take it from there. |
| 00:50.05 | cafuego | CWA-: $EDITOR /etc/syslog.conf |
| 00:50.12 | asg | beta3: I'm working on my design ideas, promise. |
| 00:50.18 | pro | CWA, if you stop syslogd your messages will all go to the "console" |
| 00:50.18 | sertmann | ok setting protocol to ImPS/2, didn't work, also setting it to /dev/input/mice made my X not start at all, dmesg | grep mouse. found a PS/2 mouse, so it is working....just not in |
| 00:50.20 | sertmann | xX |
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| 00:50.26 | gImpybum | thanks The_Vulture... i presume that answer was for me :) |
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| 00:50.28 | dragonbyte | cafuego: does cups replace lpd? |
| 00:50.30 | CWA- | i've already removed everything that goes to xconsole and restarted |
| 00:50.31 | sertmann | any other suggestions? |
| 00:50.32 | beta3 | cafuego: Im also planning on support for ldap users |
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| 00:50.47 | proximacnt | dragonbyte: The two can coexist |
| 00:50.48 | cafuego | dragonbyte: mine uses lpd... but you can use it as a replacement, sure |
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| 00:51.14 | pro | anyway, brb. got laptop to make work |
| 00:51.14 | dragonbyte | cups handle smb printers? |
| 00:51.22 | cafuego | dragonbyte: yes |
| 00:51.36 | cafuego | pro: well, tell me the model it would be if it was a travelmate |
| 00:51.56 | beta3 | cafuego: hopefully in the end, it'll be good enough for you to get off postcrap |
| 00:51.57 | lcolleton | I've upgraded to kernel 2.6 and now my laptop's built-in compact flash reader doesn't work. I've compiled and loaded ide_cs.o to no avail. Is there some other driver I also need? |
| 00:52.09 | nsmith | cafuego: I need a user name and a password :/ |
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| 00:52.39 | cafuego | nsmith: root/rootpassword |
| 00:52.54 | cafuego | beta3: doubt it, i already have a working steup with data in sql and a web interface on it. |
| 00:53.03 | nsmith | cool thanks |
| 00:53.05 | cafuego | beta3: As a bonus I don't need to downgrade to exim to use it. |
| 00:53.37 | peterS | cafuego: oh, haven't you heard? no matter how crappy exim3 was, exim4 is All Better Now [tm] |
| 00:53.41 | nsmith | cafuego: one more thing, location is /dev/lpt right? |
| 00:53.45 | odl | !seen r0b0c0d |
| 00:53.46 | dpkg | r0b0c0d <~r0b0c0d@218.30.252.197> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 22h 18m 23s ago, saying: 'NIGGEROX THATS SO FUCKEDUPPONYASS'. |
| 00:53.57 | odl | that's stupid |
| 00:53.59 | cafuego | peterS: I'll believe exim4 is better than exim3. |
| 00:54.00 | LSorensen | nsmith: there is no /dev/lpt |
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| 00:54.14 | cafuego | peterS: that doesn't mean anything in relation to postfix (or even nullmailer) though. |
| 00:54.15 | nsmith | /dev/printer? |
| 00:54.18 | nsmith | :) |
| 00:54.20 | peterS | cafuego: indeed (: |
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| 00:54.26 | cafuego | nsmith: /dev/lp0 |
| 00:54.34 | nsmith | cafuego: You the man! |
| 00:54.37 | beta3 | cafuego: there must be a good reason why dyndns uses exim4 for their backup mx service |
| 00:54.41 | cafuego | nsmith: yes, i know. |
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| 00:54.52 | cafuego | beta3: "they're retarded?" |
| 00:55.02 | beta3 | maybe they aren't as stupid as postfix users |
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| 00:55.29 | ita | i want to install qt >= 3.2 - apt-cache search qt offers only things like "libqt3" - how is it possible to install qt 3.2 ? |
| 00:55.39 | cafuego | beta3: I think they use it for the same reason people use gentoo. it makes them think they're 1337 |
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| 00:55.44 | peterS | ita: libqt3 will be whatever version of qt3.x is available for debian |
| 00:55.50 | ita | oh |
| 00:56.01 | ita | thanks peterS |
| 00:56.02 | peterS | ita: use 'apt-cache show' to see what version that is |
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| 00:56.07 | beta3 | cafuego: ugh, gentoo is the far worst of all linux distributions |
| 00:56.07 | nsmith | cool, so the device is a LPD/LPR Host or Printer as far lp0 is concerned? |
| 00:56.08 | cafuego | beta3: ... which is fine, as long as it shuts them up. |
| 00:56.08 | proximacnt | ita: Unstable packages will be available soon, and there are backports to woody |
| 00:56.12 | Tzunami | Hi, Just installed debian 3.0, I want to get my windows computer online now so i can read about building a firewall and configuring my newly installed system, my windows machine cannot access the outside, what files do i need to configure in order for my windows computer to see debian and see the outside? |
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| 00:56.17 | ita | any news of kde 3.2 for debian btw ? |
| 00:56.19 | Tzunami | Please. :p |
| 00:56.24 | cafuego | beta3: Well, I rest my case. |
| 00:56.27 | beta3 | ita: read topic in #debian-kde |
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| 00:56.33 | jaimos | ita: 3.2 hasen't offically made it into debian yet, afaik, you could ask in #debian-kde to see if they know of any unoffical sources. |
| 00:56.35 | cafuego | ita: /j #debian-kde |
| 00:56.37 | ita | beta3, okay :) |
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| 00:56.55 | cafuego | Tzunami: iptables of ipchains on the debian box. |
| 00:57.00 | cafuego | Tzunami: WHich kernel does it run? |
| 00:57.05 | Tzunami | BitchX-1.0c19+ by panasync - Linux 2.2.20-idepci |
| 00:57.07 | htaccess | is the stable apache suexec by default? |
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| 00:57.14 | nsmith | nobody is in debian-gnome :( |
| 00:57.14 | slack_ | what cd's do i need for a debian install? there is 7 cd's i want a full install and all but do i need al the disks? |
| 00:57.15 | asg | cafuego: exim does do things easier than postfix though |
| 00:57.19 | Tzunami | currently newly installed, i plan on downloading and installin a new kernel. |
| 00:57.21 | asg | s/things/some things/ |
| 00:57.33 | nsmith | cafuego: so the device is a LPD/LPR Host or Printer as far lp0 is concerned? |
| 00:57.37 | beta3 | cafuego: exim4 is much more configurable, and how you say DOCUMENTED! |
| 00:57.38 | LSorensen | Tzunami: you should not be running an install kernel |
| 00:57.38 | cafuego | asg: that's nice. |
| 00:57.47 | cafuego | nsmith: a Printer |
| 00:57.50 | auch | . |
| 00:57.55 | Tzunami | cafuego: 2.2.0-idepci currently, fresh install, I plan on installing a new kernel. |
| 00:57.55 | beta3 | asg: its the DOCUMENTATION that counts |
| 00:58.01 | jojako15 | anyone know how to set x11 to run on boot? |
| 00:58.01 | peterS | beta3: postfix docs, once I figured out the basics, are a pleasure to read |
| 00:58.10 | beta3 | asg: compare the exim 4.3 spec to postfix docs |
| 00:58.17 | auch | slack_: i successfully installed debian with the first disc only |
| 00:58.20 | jojako15 | anyone know how to set x11 to run on boot? |
| 00:58.20 | Tzunami | cafuego: Which files do i edit in order for my debian box and windows box to be able to see each other? |
| 00:58.24 | cafuego | Tzunami: First thing is probably to go to kernel 2.4.18. you can do it on the current one, but I dunno the ipchains syntax for masq. |
| 00:58.26 | LSorensen | beta3: there was a good book on exim3. Too bad they didn't include a copy with the source |
| 00:58.28 | beta3 | peterS: you really should give the exim4 spec a try |
| 00:58.44 | slack_ | auch, will that give u a full install? |
| 00:58.48 | nsmith | cafuego: hehe that was the entire device name :) Device URI.. lpd? |
| 00:58.49 | asg | LSorensen: O'Reilly just release a postfix book too |
| 00:58.53 | Tzunami | Okay. I am sure i can figure out masqurading, but as for files cafuego ? |
| 00:59.16 | cafuego | Tzunami: /etc/network/interfaces to assign an Ip address (see man 5 interfaces) |
| 00:59.21 | nsmith | sorry im asking so many questions ive never used a printer before and my first time is in linux so im extreme newb |
| 00:59.27 | Tzunami | Thank you, thats all I need. |
| 00:59.33 | Tzunami | ta cafuego |
| 00:59.35 | cafuego | Tzunami: Cool, enjoy :-) |
| 00:59.44 | Tzunami | |:) |
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| 01:00.38 | cafuego | nsmith: I have no idea how it workswith a directly connected printer, all i have is a ethernet print server. |
| 01:00.38 | htaccess | is there a deb for adding suexec to apache? |
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| 01:00.51 | nsmith | cafuego: ahh.. |
| 01:01.14 | auch | slack_: no it won't. i think you can do a full install with the first 3 discs. the others contain sources. somebody correct me if i'm wrong |
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| 01:01.26 | RabidGoblin | hey |
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| 01:02.10 | nsmith | hmm filename.prn i wonder where that could be |
| 01:02.19 | RabidGoblin | if i d/l woody-i386-1.iso, and install from the net, what kernel does it come with? |
| 01:02.23 | nsmith | i dont have any kind of .prn config i don't believe |
| 01:02.28 | jojako15 | anyone? |
| 01:02.33 | asg | nsmith: find / -name 'filename.prn' |
| 01:02.33 | eeyore-_ | nsmith: pr0n files? |
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| 01:02.42 | asg | nsmith: get a coffee while you wait |
| 01:02.56 | proximacnt | nsmith: Sorry that I left those lying around |
| 01:02.57 | davro | can anyone help with setting iwconfig devices |
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| 01:02.59 | nsmith | asg: I have no clue what the filename would be |
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| 01:03.10 | Golum5 | damn.. /var is full |
| 01:03.15 | cafuego | nsmith: You want a config that allows you to enter /dev/lp0 as device name. |
| 01:03.21 | asg | nsmith: do you know any part of it? |
| 01:03.24 | beta3 | asg: hopefully sometime this year when your done with your design plan we could start this project |
| 01:03.25 | Golum5 | how can I make apt delete packages after its installed it |
| 01:03.26 | nsmith | cafuego: It wants the Device URI |
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| 01:03.35 | slack_ | auch, i am downloading this from linuxiso.org there is 7 diffrent types of dics what ones whould i need? |
| 01:04.06 | asg | beta3: :) there's time. |
| 01:04.13 | eeyore-_ | asg: plan? |
| 01:04.18 | nsmith | does anyone really know what a Device URI is? |
| 01:04.28 | jojako15 | anyone know how to set kdm to run on boot? |
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| 01:04.41 | proximacnt | jojako15: dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
| 01:04.41 | badblody | dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
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| 01:04.46 | asg | eeyore-_: python based extensible configurator for exim |
| 01:05.03 | eeyore-_ | ah |
| 01:05.23 | asg | eeyore-_: I have to think it out in my head and understand it before I write something; I've always been that way. |
| 01:05.30 | RabidGoblin | anyone know what kernel version i would get by installing debian with woody-i386-1.iso from the net? |
| 01:05.33 | LighthouseJ | How can I get anti-alised fonts in X? |
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| 01:05.40 | Golum5 | should I do: apt-get clean or apt-get autp-clean? |
| 01:05.41 | nsmith | RabidGoblin: 2.4.18 |
| 01:05.46 | LighthouseJ | RabidGoblin: , I installed woody from the net today. |
| 01:05.47 | nsmith | RabidGoblin: if you do bf24 |
| 01:05.47 | Golum5 | ..when my /var is full? |
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| 01:06.03 | LighthouseJ | I got 2.2.20 without bf24 |
| 01:06.03 | asg | Golum5: clean will remove more than autoclean |
| 01:06.10 | nsmith | LighthouseJ: yep |
| 01:06.28 | auch | slack: get the first 3 |
| 01:06.28 | RabidGoblin | what version of Xfree? |
| 01:06.44 | nsmith | RabidGoblin: not sure but it supported my nvidia drivers |
| 01:06.47 | LighthouseJ | RabidGoblin: 4.1.0.1 |
| 01:06.50 | cafuego | nsmith: try entering /dev/lp0 as device uri after choosing LPD/LPR |
| 01:06.57 | nsmith | cafuego: ok :) |
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| 01:07.12 | RabidGoblin | i see |
| 01:07.12 | slack_ | auch, my i msg u a min plzz? show u whitch the first 3 r |
| 01:07.27 | proximacnt | nsmith: Are you talking about cups? |
| 01:07.40 | nsmith | proximacnt: yes trying to get printer working |
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| 01:07.49 | nsmith | great i dont see the printer in the drivers |
| 01:07.53 | nsmith | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.59 | proximacnt | nsmith: Device uri is something like lpd://192.168.1.20/ or ipp://hostname |
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| 01:08.23 | cafuego | it was a lexmark 2000 wasn't it? |
| 01:08.24 | auch | slack: sure |
| 01:08.29 | proximacnt | nsmith: Look at foomatic, too |
| 01:08.29 | RabidGoblin | because i use mandrake 9.2 now, i used to use debian before that, but i couldn't get my video driver or my sound driver working so i switched to mandrake. but if i could get debian working with all my drivers i would use it. |
| 01:08.32 | nsmith | proximacnt: lexmark z22 |
| 01:08.35 | nsmith | err |
| 01:08.37 | Cire | what's the command to get all the user accounts on my machine? |
| 01:08.49 | nsmith | cafuego: z22 |
| 01:08.52 | asg | Cire: cat /etc/passwd | awk -F: '{print $1}' |
| 01:08.56 | LSorensen | RabidGoblin: which video card and sound card? |
| 01:09.16 | nsmith | proximacnt: I dont understand what i need to insernt for the URI though |
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| 01:09.30 | RabidGoblin | Nvidia mx 440 |
| 01:09.30 | RabidGoblin | and im not sure what sound card |
| 01:09.31 | Justin_ | s|cat /etc/passwd|getend passwd| |
| 01:09.33 | RabidGoblin | something long with a bunch of numbers and letters |
| 01:09.38 | Justin_ | grrr ent |
| 01:09.58 | Cire | fuck! there are quiet a lot! |
| 01:10.07 | asg | Cire: yes |
| 01:10.13 | cafuego | nsmith: Is there a z32 driver? |
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| 01:10.21 | nsmith | cafuego: Nay :) |
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| 01:10.32 | asg | Justin_: thanks |
| 01:10.57 | Cire | games, man, mail, news... what's going on? |
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| 01:11.16 | proximacnt | nsmith: parallel:/dev/lp0 |
| 01:11.25 | nsmith | proximacnt: ahh cool thanks |
| 01:11.26 | proximacnt | nsmith: or probably usb:/dev/lp0 |
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| 01:11.27 | asg | sgestione: yes, did you recall? |
| 01:11.29 | Matthew_I | where can I put calls to setkeycodes so it gets called on startup? |
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| 01:11.33 | nsmith | proximacnt: its lpt |
| 01:11.35 | asg | grrr |
| 01:11.45 | asg | sgeigerbot: yes, did you recall? |
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| 01:12.15 | sgeigerbot | asg: I recall only what I damn well please! |
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| 01:12.37 | proximacnt | nsmith: Does that mean parallel port? |
| 01:12.42 | asg | Cire: used to run programs as a certain user so if the program is compromised, the damage will be limited. |
| 01:12.52 | nsmith | proximacnt: it looks like a big serial port to me |
| 01:12.54 | sgeigerbot | asg: Was grey having a bad fur day? |
| 01:13.05 | cafuego | nsmith: Hmm, all the webpages I've found say you need lpd and not cups :-P |
| 01:13.08 | stats | Anyone know of aim client I an use in a shell instead of needing X for gaim? |
| 01:13.17 | cafuego | !lart printers |
| 01:13.19 | nsmith | cafuego: Doh :) |
| 01:13.28 | The_Vulture | stats: I use CenterICQ which I think does aim, not sure though |
| 01:13.30 | nvz | stats: bitlbee will do it |
| 01:13.30 | asg | sgeigerbot: 13:17 < PerfDave> greycat: No shit, fuckwit |
| 01:13.37 | Cire | asg: thanks. now i know why ftpd wants to have a user ftp |
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| 01:13.46 | sgeigerbot | stats: pork, naim |
| 01:13.48 | Cire | (right?) |
| 01:13.50 | asg | spoopin: hiya |
| 01:13.51 | proximacnt | nsmith: Er, if it's female, it's parallel |
| 01:13.52 | stats | Thanks I don't have x on this machine :D |
| 01:13.55 | LSorensen | RabidGoblin: well the mx440 is rather new and would probably work best with the nvidia driver (ask dpkg about nvidia-howto). For sound, run lspci and see what multimedia device it lists. |
| 01:14.01 | spoopin | asg: what up?? |
| 01:14.04 | sgeigerbot | asg: <PerfDave> greycat: No shit, fuckwit |
| 01:14.15 | asg | sgeigerbot: besides that one :) |
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| 01:14.20 | asg | spoopin: not much. you? |
| 01:14.21 | nsmith | proximacnt: yes its a female on the mobos side |
| 01:14.33 | cafuego | <sgeigerbot> asg: <PerfDave> greycat: No shit, fuckwit |
| 01:14.33 | proximacnt | nsmith: You're the proud owner of a parallel port |
| 01:14.53 | sgeigerbot | asg: <cafuego> <sgeigerbot> asg: <PerfDave> greycat: No shit, fuckwit |
| 01:14.54 | spoopin | asg: downloading new bf1942 patch... kev patched his server |
| 01:14.58 | cafuego | sgeigerbot: Why would drinking water cause someone to die? |
| 01:15.02 | nsmith | cafuego: slpd - OpenSLP Server (slpd) |
| 01:15.10 | spoopin | asg: and sent me the wrong one :) |
| 01:15.10 | sgeigerbot | cafuego: allergies? |
| 01:15.12 | nsmith | proximacnt: yay! :) |
| 01:15.14 | beta3 | cafuego: they could be alergic |
| 01:15.17 | cafuego | nsmith: lpr |
| 01:15.19 | proximacnt | nsmith: Have you tried browsing to http://localhost:631/ to configure? |
| 01:15.24 | beta3 | cafuego: if so, they live off of alcohol |
| 01:15.24 | asg | spoopin: oh, put it up when you get it |
| 01:15.24 | nsmith | rlpr - A utility for lpd printing without using /etc/printcap |
| 01:15.29 | cafuego | Humand are not allergic to water. |
| 01:15.29 | proximacnt | nsmith: Just use your root login/password |
| 01:15.40 | nsmith | proximacnt: Yeah it turns out cups is not what i need right now |
| 01:15.41 | beta3 | nsmith: there is no reason to be using lprng at all |
| 01:15.49 | beta3 | cups is the wave of the future |
| 01:15.52 | jaimos | cafuego: if they had a bad malfuction and flooded their lungs..(: |
| 01:16.00 | nsmith | beta3: I didnt see my drivers |
| 01:16.01 | cafuego | beta3: cups doesn't support his printer. |
| 01:16.04 | proximacnt | beta3: But could you write cups in bash? |
| 01:16.05 | spoopin | asg: it's 142MB .. there's a link to a faster ftp server on my site. It's now the first post |
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| 01:16.20 | nsmith | beta3: lexmark drivers not in cups |
| 01:16.22 | asg | spoopin: ah, okay. I'll d/l it tomorrow. |
| 01:16.38 | beta3 | nsmith: haven't you learned HP printers are the best yet? |
| 01:16.43 | proximacnt | nsmith: Have you checked the linuxprinting.org website to get driver info? |
| 01:16.45 | sgeigerbot | stats: Btw, you can also use tnt if you have emacs. |
| 01:16.45 | dacap | how I get news from Debian? |
| 01:16.53 | spoopin | asg: cool. I don't know if I'll try it tonight or not. I'm just getting it just in case.. |
| 01:16.54 | nsmith | nsmith: my hp printer brokeded :) |
| 01:16.56 | nsmith | err |
| 01:16.57 | dacap | how I get news from Debian (using inn and gnus)? |
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| 01:17.00 | nvz | dacap: news.google.com |
| 01:17.00 | asg | spoopin: okay |
| 01:17.01 | The_Vulture | dacap: pick an nntp client, there are lots of them.. |
| 01:17.18 | nsmith | proximacnt: going now |
| 01:17.19 | sgeigerbot | stats: apt-cache search aol |
| 01:17.24 | proximacnt | dacap: Pan is good if you're all gooey |
| 01:17.25 | asg | dacap: www.debian.org/News |
| 01:17.40 | spoopin | asg: looks like tar's still borked |
| 01:17.46 | asg | spoopin: yep |
| 01:17.49 | cafuego | And you REALLY don't want inn. |
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| 01:18.17 | spoopin | asg: what was the name of the site that hosts old .deb packages yoj mentioned some time back? |
| 01:18.20 | sgeigerbot | When trying to do "make bzImage" I get: make: *** No rule to make target `include/linux/autoconf.h', needed by `include/config/MARKER'. Stop. What is wrong? |
| 01:18.22 | asg | spoopin: it was fixed but then it broke again |
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| 01:18.26 | asg | spoopin: snapshot.debian.net |
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| 01:18.44 | cafuego | sgeigerbot: you didn't run make dep |
| 01:18.49 | nsmith | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:19.02 | Cire | someone here with experience with vlc? |
| 01:19.03 | nsmith | does this mean cups wont work and i cant used shared printers? |
| 01:19.03 | spoopin | asg: cool. turns out I still had a good one in archives... but that's good to know |
| 01:19.04 | Guest80978 | hiya :) does any one know how to use MASQ on 3 network cards? |
| 01:19.05 | sgeigerbot | cafuego: thanks |
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| 01:19.09 | dob | hi |
| 01:19.10 | davro | buy a hp4+ and forget about printing |
| 01:19.12 | asg | spoopin: comes in handy |
| 01:19.22 | slack_ | is debian a rpm based os? |
| 01:19.28 | asg | slack_: no |
| 01:19.29 | dob | what is this "tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)" |
| 01:19.30 | cafuego | Guest80978: Same as on two (or one) |
| 01:19.35 | nvz | slack_: no, dont be ridiculous |
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| 01:19.38 | dacap | but how I get news?, I ran inn daemon (innd) and I have the "active" with the groups that I like to get news, but what I should do? |
| 01:19.40 | davro | *.deb |
| 01:19.45 | rich_ | dacap http://wwitv.com/ns2.htm |
| 01:19.47 | nvz | !mith slack_ |
| 01:19.51 | cafuego | Guest80978: tell iptables to masq outgoing on your wan card in the POSTROUTING rule in the nat tables. |
| 01:19.57 | proximacnt | nsmith: Installing foomatic should help the cups configuration easier if there's no ppd file |
| 01:19.57 | LSorensen | nsmith: check www.linux-printing.org |
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| 01:20.32 | Cire | how can vlc be started on bootup? |
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| 01:20.32 | slack_ | ok good lol just checking |
| 01:20.32 | asg | Cire: less /etc/init.d/README && man update-rc.d |
| 01:20.33 | Cire | (even if it is not a good solution) |
| 01:20.38 | Guest80978 | cafuego ive tried that no joy iptables -t nat POSTROUTING -A MASQUERADE thing an one work but not other |
| 01:20.39 | dob | i see that line in /etc/fstab, but i think it was added from some upgrade |
| 01:21.01 | bob2 | dob: read glibc's changelog |
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| 01:21.22 | cafuego | Guest80978: as long as the box is forwarding it should be absolutely fine. just specify -o ethX so it doesn't do it on the other cards |
| 01:21.32 | davro | df -h show a tmpfs /dev/shm whats this as its taking up 252M ?? |
| 01:21.44 | cafuego | davro: it's not taking up anything |
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| 01:22.05 | cafuego | davro: it's a virtual fs that *can* use ram or swap space. Think of it as a ramdisk. |
| 01:22.14 | Guest80978 | cafuego eth0 = net , eth1 = local net , eth2 = wireless net |
| 01:22.20 | davro | ok cheers |
| 01:22.32 | davro | read it all wrong there |
| 01:22.38 | cafuego | Guest80978: iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING 1 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE |
| 01:22.41 | beta3 | asg: btw, all documentation for the project will be done using yodl |
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| 01:22.59 | cafuego | Guest80978: and echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_foward(ing) |
| 01:23.05 | nvz | certainly didnt read the kernel documentation |
| 01:23.07 | beta3 | asg: its easy to work with, and spits out nice linuxdoc documents |
| 01:23.12 | mc0upe | i'm sure this is quite a popular question... but when will kde 3.2 make it into unstable? |
| 01:23.14 | sgeigerbot | ~+yodl |
| 01:23.16 | | Yet oneOther Document Language. URL: http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien/yodl/ |
| 01:23.24 | cafuego | mc0upe: ask on #debian-kde |
| 01:23.31 | asg | beta3: I'll look into it |
| 01:23.33 | Guest80978 | cafuego done the echo 1 as eth1 works online |
| 01:23.35 | cafuego | mc0upe: or upgrade to stable and use that. |
| 01:23.43 | peterS | shhh. nobody tell beta3 about docbook. he'll want to switch from yodl to that, by virtue of it being newer and more buzzword-compliant |
| 01:23.45 | beta3 | sgeigerbot: LaTeX and yodl are godsends of docuementation |
| 01:23.46 | Cire | asg: I know how to start a program on bootup. but starting vlc still makes problems |
| 01:23.50 | mc0upe | cafuego: thanks |
| 01:23.54 | asg | Cire: such as? |
| 01:23.54 | cafuego | mc0upe: and wifi is still not routing? |
| 01:23.56 | beta3 | peterS: yuk docbook |
| 01:23.57 | nvz | *g* 2.6.2 was released today |
| 01:24.03 | beta3 | peterS: I prefer linuxdoc |
| 01:24.03 | cafuego | s/mc0upe/Guest80978/ |
| 01:24.13 | Guest80978 | ? |
| 01:24.17 | peterS | nvz: really? thanks for the heads-up, time to go read the changelog |
| 01:24.18 | asg | !troffsmite beta3 |
| 01:24.20 | cafuego | Cire: yes, it needs X. |
| 01:24.20 | asg | :) |
| 01:24.28 | beta3 | !nroffsmite asg |
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| 01:24.51 | beta3 | asg: let me show you a yodl manpage |
| 01:24.51 | cafuego | !groffsmite both of you |
| 01:25.00 | Cire | "nohup vlc -I http" |
| 01:25.08 | asg | cafuego: don't make me get the texinfo out :p |
| 01:25.14 | asg | beta3: k |
| 01:25.22 | Cire | still doesn't start in daemon mode |
| 01:25.25 | cafuego | asg: You keep that thing tucked away mate. |
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| 01:25.52 | cafuego | Cire: as far as i'm aware vlc is the *client* not the server. |
| 01:25.55 | Cire | even a "&" doesn't change anything |
| 01:25.57 | nsmith | I cant get the drivers i dont have red hat |
| 01:26.14 | cafuego | nsmith: apt-get install laien; alien foo.rpm or alien -t foo.rpm |
| 01:26.19 | natt | I have a standalone (outside the official kernel tree) SCSI controller module I need to compile statically into the kernel. I can make it part of the "make-kpkg module_image" cycle, but that doesn't put it into the kernel (I suppose I need to plop it into the initrd image). Could someone point me to some docs? |
| 01:26.22 | cafuego | s/laien/alien/ |
| 01:26.44 | nsmith | cafuego: The download is an rpm on the webpage |
| 01:26.44 | Cire | vlc offers the http interface my dbox (DVB) needs to play movies |
| 01:27.00 | cafuego | nsmith: yeah, just download & convert |
| 01:27.10 | nsmith | cafuego: into a deb? |
| 01:27.21 | cafuego | nsmith: that or a tarball (I'd do the latter) |
| 01:27.24 | treestone | nsmith: 'alien package.rpm' generates package.deb |
| 01:27.29 | Cire | vlc offers a mp2 stream my dbox can process |
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| 01:28.17 | riotgrrl | hello, I just put a very basic install of debian (woody) on my sun ultra 10 which has a type 6 (UNIX layout w/sun connector) keyboard, which I selected from the choices in the installer. For some reason, some of the keys are mapped wrong - the | makes a ~, the " makes an @, etc. How can I go about changing my keyboard layout to something else to hopefully find something that works? |
| 01:28.23 | mc0upe | alient --to-deb |
| 01:28.24 | Cire | in this case vlc is a kind of server... |
| 01:28.27 | mc0upe | alien --to-deb rather |
| 01:28.31 | cafuego | riotgrrl: better keep it away from peterS |
| 01:28.38 | cafuego | riotgrrl: he'll try to steal it. |
| 01:28.45 | riotgrrl | ;-X |
| 01:28.55 | peterS | cafuego: heh |
| 01:29.01 | peterS | riotgrrl: /msg dpkg keymap |
| 01:29.21 | treestone | riotgrrl: You could start out with the 'xev' program, figure out the keycodes and names, and re-map with xmodmap |
| 01:29.25 | dob | bob2: i read in the kernel doc, so it is useful , right ? |
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| 01:29.40 | bjron | erm, how do I rid myself of a defunct process? |
| 01:29.44 | riotgrrl | i'm don't have x installed, this is just for the console |
| 01:29.45 | bob2 | dob: yes. |
| 01:29.46 | Cire | DBOX tells my linux machine to offer a mp2 stream out of a certain avi or sthelse file |
| 01:29.51 | riotgrrl | i'll try the console-data package |
| 01:29.52 | peterS | riotgrrl: in console mode you can edit /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz |
| 01:29.52 | dob | ok thanks |
| 01:29.53 | cafuego | bob2: kill its parent process or reboot. |
| 01:30.04 | natt | Anyone? |
| 01:30.10 | riotgrrl | ok i'll try that then, thanks |
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| 01:30.18 | cafuego | g!%@^&DX@! |
| 01:30.28 | peterS | riotgrrl: or, 'man install-keymap' and check /usr/share/keymaps/... |
| 01:30.30 | cafuego | s/bob2/bjron/ |
| 01:30.32 | bob2 | natt: you can't have it in the kernel |
| 01:30.38 | bob2 | natt: you have to make an initrd. |
| 01:31.05 | treestone | riotgrrl: For example, I have a file with 'keycode 35 = slash asciicircum asciitilde |
| 01:31.09 | natt | bob2: Thanks, any howtos on how to integrate that into Debian's make-kpkg cycle (which builds the initrd image for me)? |
| 01:31.42 | bob2 | natt: nope. |
| 01:31.42 | treestone | riotgrrl: (continued) which I use as input file to the xmodmap program. |
| 01:31.42 | natt | bob2: Ok, any hints? |
| 01:31.42 | bob2 | natt: you'll probably have to do it manually. |
| 01:31.42 | bjron | cafuego: so if it doesn't have a parent, then rebooting is the only way? |
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| 01:32.00 | peterS | natt: what sort of scsi controller module? |
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| 01:32.13 | Cire | it seems as if noone had an idea... |
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| 01:32.22 | Rakeleer | Has anyone gotten the unstable version of mailgraph to work? |
| 01:32.26 | natt | bob2: Hm, but it's the deb (produced by make-kpkg) that makes the initrd, if there's no way to jam in a script step there, then I guess I have to un-ar the deb and edit it -- yuck |
| 01:32.26 | bjron | cafuego: nm, it does have a parent |
| 01:32.27 | bob2 | natt: google says nothign about this? ask on debian-user, /msg dpkg d-u |
| 01:32.36 | bjron | cafuego: thanks |
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| 01:32.53 | riotgrrl | yay! |
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| 01:33.04 | treestone | bjron: All programs have a parent, all the way up to the init program (pid 1), and the init program doesn't leave zombies (defunct) process table entries around |
| 01:33.06 | peterS | riotgrrl: eh? how goes your type 6? |
| 01:33.09 | treestone | Hm, he left. |
| 01:33.13 | sgeigerbot | cafuego: Re: "<cafuego> sgeigerbot: you didn't run make dep"> Well, I did run "make dep" this time...and I still got the same results. |
| 01:33.19 | natt | peterS: Promise FastTrack 26 chipset, not technically an SCSI controller, but the module is a SCSI driver. Proprietary stuff at the moment, sadly. |
| 01:33.23 | nsmith | well i ran that foomatic kit it didntwork so much for that |
| 01:33.24 | riotgrrl | i used install-keymap and changed to type 5, us, which makes those keys work well |
| 01:33.34 | natt | bob2: Googled all day. |
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| 01:33.47 | peterS | natt: ah. SATA? |
| 01:33.51 | natt | peterS: Aye |
| 01:33.57 | sgeigerbot | cafuego: my environemnt is a little lacking perhaps. I just did a debootstrap on this system...and I am building the initial kernel (because I don't know how to install a kernel with apt-get). ;-) |
| 01:34.11 | riotgrrl | thanks much for the help peterS, and others ;-) |
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| 01:34.58 | dung | j #kde-freebsd |
| 01:35.00 | Cire | this is my last query: does anyone have n solution for starting vlc on bootup? ( this is not a threat ;-) |
| 01:35.02 | asg | sgeigerbot: kernel klink only works on non-sgeiger hardware though |
| 01:35.42 | sgeigerbot | asg: Where can I buy that? |
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| 01:36.53 | natt | Ah, the trick is /etc/mkinitrd/modules |
| 01:36.55 | asg | sgeigerbot: Best Buy? |
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| 01:37.56 | treestone | Cire: Shouldn't you rather use vls instead of vlc, if you want to run a server? I'm not using that software myself, mind |
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| 01:38.51 | ozzonn | how can i allow access to a ntfs volume ? |
| 01:39.01 | ozzonn | (for users) |
| 01:39.03 | odl | is it true that freenode ops commonly snoop on private messags |
| 01:39.03 | odl | messages |
| 01:39.25 | nsmith | sh: line 1: /usr/sbin/lpadmin: No such file or directory |
| 01:39.34 | sgeigerbot | odl: what's stopping them? |
| 01:39.44 | nsmith | i just isntalled webmin-lpadmin |
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| 01:39.44 | BaronVonOwn | Hey all, does this error: "dpkg: parse error, in "Dq,?8??3A?9a*' must be followed by colon1:" mean my installation is screwed and I need to reinstall? It happens basically whenever I use apt or dpkg |
| 01:39.48 | nsmith | and it still says that |
| 01:39.50 | odl | sgeigerbot, that's why i'm asking |
| 01:39.56 | dondelelcaro | odl: if you actually care about privacy, IRC is the wrong communication medium. |
| 01:39.59 | ryan` | odl, use DCC sessions for private chat if you're worried |
| 01:40.00 | Cire | I visited the homepage, and I was reminded there that vls was a solution for people who want to STREAM something which was encoded before. I want a Streamong AND decoding solution... |
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| 01:40.07 | sgeigerbot | odl: if nothing is stopping them, then who knows?! |
| 01:40.14 | wiak | how do i config apt-get? |
| 01:40.15 | odl | i know it's not private |
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| 01:40.20 | sgeigerbot | wiak: apt-setup |
| 01:40.24 | sgeigerbot | wiak: Debian Package Management Info: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/apt-get-intro.html or http://sgeiger.mine.nu/docs/pkgmgmt.php or (tarzeau's) http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq/ or (thanks za) apt-get install apt-howto-en or (if you forget) /msg apt mgmt or /msg apt pkgmgmt |
| 01:40.26 | odl | so i'm wondering if ircops on here are participating in making it even less so |
| 01:40.31 | FieldySnuts | if you want secure irc-like comms, use silc |
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| 01:40.36 | FieldySnuts | HEH |
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| 01:40.44 | nsmith | !apt lpadmin |
| 01:40.44 | erinn | are there ircops on freenode? |
| 01:40.58 | dondelelcaro | odl: if they say no, would you believe them? would the answer even matter? |
| 01:41.01 | BaronVonOwn | Is there any way to fix apt or dpkg if it's corrupted, or is it time to reinstall? |
| 01:41.01 | Golum5 | where can I find mplayer I can install with apt? |
| 01:41.02 | FieldySnuts | no, the network just admins itself |
| 01:41.03 | stew | shit, cops? |
| 01:41.10 | peterS | stew: ops |
| 01:41.11 | auch | how can i exit gnome and get back to just the console? |
| 01:41.11 | odl | dondelelcaro, it would depend |
| 01:41.14 | stew | ;) |
| 01:41.27 | odl | dondelelcaro, if it was one of the ops that was actually nice, i'd take their word for it |
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| 01:41.29 | ozzonn | someone know how i can allow access for users to a ntfs volume ? |
| 01:41.37 | asg | auch: CTRL+ALT+F1 |
| 01:41.47 | odl | ie: not many |
| 01:41.52 | proximacnt | ozzonn: Current kernel driver doesn't sanely support ntfs write |
| 01:41.55 | nsmith | what is lpadmin |
| 01:41.56 | nsmith | grr |
| 01:42.02 | auch | asg: thanks! |
| 01:42.03 | dondelelcaro | odl: well, afaik, they don't. although, if they need to do so to debug a server problem, that's their right, of course. |
| 01:42.12 | ozzonn | proximacnt: i dont want write, just access |
| 01:42.16 | Rakeleer | auch: Make sure you know how to get back, though. ;) |
| 01:42.20 | spoopin | asg: thanks for the heads-up on pcretest! |
| 01:42.21 | odl | dondelelcaro, i'm just wondering, i've confirmed it on a couple of other irc networks |
| 01:42.27 | asg | spoopin: nifty isn't it |
| 01:42.28 | nsmith | sh: line 1: /usr/sbin/lpadmin: No such file or directory |
| 01:42.28 | nsmith | Could not set up/change the queue "lexmark_z22"! |
| 01:42.33 | treestone | Cire: I don't know, I just tried to start 'vlc -I http' in the background (with &) and it sure started in the background. |
| 01:42.34 | sgeigerbot | nsmith: admin tool for lp |
| 01:42.36 | spoopin | asg: I have found few things as useful |
| 01:42.39 | proximacnt | ozzonn: Oh, I don't know why I read write |
| 01:42.40 | ozzonn | and i had included write support in kernel moreover |
| 01:42.47 | FieldySnuts | dondelelcaro: odl is an ex-kgb agent |
| 01:42.48 | ozzonn | lol |
| 01:42.48 | proximacnt | ozzonn: Just load the ntfs kernel driver |
| 01:42.58 | dondelelcaro | FieldySnuts: the KGB doesn't have ex agents. |
| 01:42.59 | asg | spoopin: :) |
| 01:42.59 | Cire | treesone: sure. but also on bootup? |
| 01:43.00 | odl | FieldySnuts, you're lying, i'm currently one as well |
| 01:43.01 | nsmith | sgeigerbot: only thing i see is webmin-lpadmin - printer control module for webmin |
| 01:43.04 | FieldySnuts | odl: oh |
| 01:43.05 | spoopin | asg: checking a few re's I use for config testing |
| 01:43.12 | ozzonn | the drive mounts correctly, but only root can access :S |
| 01:43.19 | Cire | s/treesone/treestone |
| 01:43.20 | nsmith | sgeigerbot: and that didnt help any |
| 01:43.35 | michal | i didn't know where to ask so maybe someone here will know. I'm searching for a small utility that can add line numbers to a file under msdos.. and i can't find either nl or a cat for dos that will do this and is free and doesn't require huge libraries to be included |
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| 01:43.41 | proximacnt | ozzonn: Heh, since you can't chown the mp after mount, not sure what to tell you about that |
| 01:43.46 | auch | Rakeleer: alt F7? |
| 01:43.48 | sgeigerbot | nsmith: apt-get install lp; man 8 lpadmin |
| 01:43.53 | Rakeleer | auch: Good job. |
| 01:43.54 | nsmith | thanks |
| 01:44.00 | proximacnt | ozzonn: I doubt mount supports any kind of mount as option for ntfs |
| 01:44.01 | sgeigerbot | nsmith: did I say I was helping you? |
| 01:44.06 | Rakeleer | auch: But +ctl |
| 01:44.12 | stew | michal: perl? |
| 01:44.15 | treestone | Cire: I'm not going to boot in a while, so I'm not about to test that ;-) |
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| 01:44.22 | nsmith | awww |
| 01:44.25 | proximacnt | ozzonn: what do you know, it does |
| 01:44.27 | asg | Rakeleer: ALT+Fx for console -> X |
| 01:44.35 | proximacnt | ozzonn: man mount gives the details |
| 01:44.37 | nsmith | sgeigerbot: you used my name |
| 01:44.56 | michal | stew: as long as it fits on a 720k floppy along with a lot of other software |
| 01:45.00 | proximacnt | ozzonn: Just edit your fstab line to use options described under the ntfs section |
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| 01:45.05 | nsmith | < sgeigerbot> nsmith: apt-get install lp; man 8 lpadmin |
| 01:45.20 | auch | how would i go about making my console run at a higher resolution? |
| 01:45.20 | Rakeleer | asg: How do you like that, I've been using the +ctl key for 3 years, and never knew that. :) It doesn't work to leave 5 or 7 with X running, anyway. |
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| 01:45.38 | WonkoTheSane | anyone here use the BenH kernel? |
| 01:45.39 | stew | michal: 720k floppy! i don't think an entire perl installation is the ticket then |
| 01:45.50 | Cire | I'll be away for a few minutes. cause: cooking some spaghetti and eating... (sorry, nothing else available: student) |
| 01:45.56 | asg | Rakeleer: ;) |
| 01:46.16 | asg | WonkoTheSane: Ben Hur! kernel? Interesting ... |
| 01:46.29 | WonkoTheSane | hehe.. it's for powermac/powerbooks running linux |
| 01:46.46 | nsmith | there is no lp package but there is a lpr package |
| 01:46.48 | asg | WonkoTheSane: simonrvn might but he's at the shops. Perhaps #debianppc ? |
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| 01:47.00 | proximacnt | nsmith: Did you look into cups with foomatic? |
| 01:47.00 | ozzonn | proximacnt: ive done this, but when i mount it it says its mount ro because its win2k |
| 01:47.04 | WonkoTheSane | DOH |
| 01:47.05 | WonkoTheSane | that asg |
| 01:47.08 | WonkoTheSane | Forgot about that channel! |
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| 01:47.15 | Rakeleer | Has anyone gotten the unstable version of mailgraph to work? |
| 01:47.21 | proximacnt | ozzonn: Of course it'll be ro: there's no write support |
| 01:47.33 | proximacnt | ozzonn: You said you just wanted the owner of the files to be non-root |
| 01:47.39 | me | I installed mozplugger, but I still can't load tiff images, the image/tiff type doesn't show up in the about plug-ins page, what can i do? |
| 01:47.40 | Xumbi | is there any way to install debian 3.0 with a more recent kernel than 2.2.20? |
| 01:47.46 | ozzonn | Cire: try apt-get install spaghetti |
| 01:47.48 | ozzonn | lol |
| 01:47.52 | nsmith | proximacnt: i got an error when i told it to install for cups said i need lpadmin |
| 01:47.53 | proximacnt | ozzonn: You won't be able to change permissions, ownership, or anything |
| 01:48.11 | ozzonn | proximacnt: yes, and thats the problem |
| 01:48.20 | nsmith | proximacnt: sbin/lpadmin file not found |
| 01:48.24 | nsmith | installing it |
| 01:48.26 | nsmith | :) |
| 01:48.30 | auch | Xumbi: i believe you can choose the bf2.4 flavor when you boot of the install cd. that will install a 2.4 kernel |
| 01:48.34 | proximacnt | ozzonn: So you do need write support; I read your mind earlier |
| 01:48.46 | proximacnt | ozzonn: I think there are commercial tools to do it in linux |
| 01:48.52 | ozzonn | thats sh*t |
| 01:48.54 | Xumbi | auch: thanks, I'll give it a try |
| 01:49.07 | ozzonn | fat32 doesnt supports 120gb ? |
| 01:49.12 | ozzonn | (just in case) |
| 01:49.13 | proximacnt | ozzonn: Free stuff is hard as it's difficult to reverse-engineer a fs format and make it work reliably |
| 01:49.26 | proximacnt | ozzonn: But the ntfs driver guy is working on it and making progress, from what I understand |
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| 01:50.21 | ozzonn | then lol, until he'll succeed i will have to log on root for listening music :'( |
| 01:50.31 | ozzonn | i think this will work |
| 01:50.43 | vladkao | ozzonn audio problems ? |
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| 01:51.05 | ozzonn | no lol, ntfs problem |
| 01:51.10 | ozzonn | thx vladkao |
| 01:51.18 | nsmith | if i hook my printer up to a usb port where is it located in /dev.. still lp0? |
| 01:51.22 | ozzonn | i got my snd cards working |
| 01:51.31 | vladkao | ozzonn why, can't see the ntfs partition or mount it with user permissions ? |
| 01:51.49 | ozzonn | no access denied |
| 01:51.53 | proximacnt | ozzonn: Wait, do you just need the ntfs partition to be mounted as a certain users? |
| 01:52.17 | proximacnt | ozzonn: If so, I told you, you can add mount options to do that--you just can't go changing those permissions post-mount |
| 01:52.18 | ozzonn | proximacnt: i got 2 users, root and me then yes |
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| 01:52.32 | vladkao | ozzonn mount it with 'mount -o umask=022 -t ntfs /dev/.....' |
| 01:52.59 | rich_ | bbl |
| 01:53.03 | ozzonn | vladkao: hold on, i try |
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| 01:53.44 | proximacnt | ozzonn: mount says the umask option is for fat |
| 01:53.46 | ozzonn | vladkao: i love you man! |
| 01:53.59 | ozzonn | proximacnt: it works for ntfs too |
| 01:54.03 | proximacnt | Heh, that's cool |
| 01:54.10 | ozzonn | vladkao: THX THX THX |
| 01:54.15 | vladkao | np |
| 01:54.24 | proximacnt | Although the ntfs section has different options to achieve the same, and you can change group |
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| 01:54.35 | proximacnt | Wonder if the man page needs updating |
| 01:54.47 | sgeigerbot | nsmith: Hmmm... is the package lpr? |
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| 01:55.41 | vladkao | proximacnt the way ntfs is mounted by default (ro), umask won't affect anything. |
| 01:55.50 | sgeigerbot | nsmith: cupsys-client: /usr/bin/lp |
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| 01:56.07 | ozzonn | yeah it rocks, my linux does about everything my win does |
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| 01:56.19 | sgeigerbot | ozzonn: ...AND MORE. |
| 01:56.25 | nsmith | sgeigerbot: ? want me to type that? |
| 01:56.36 | sgeigerbot | nsmith: that's the package name. |
| 01:56.45 | vladkao | ozzonn yes, and more |
| 01:56.47 | sgeigerbot | nsmith: apt-get install cupsys-client |
| 01:56.50 | sgeigerbot | nsmith: Debian Package Management Info: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/apt-get-intro.html or http://sgeiger.mine.nu/docs/pkgmgmt.php or (tarzeau's) http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq/ or (thanks za) apt-get install apt-howto-en or (if you forget) /msg apt mgmt or /msg apt pkgmgmt |
| 01:57.06 | ozzonn | and free too |
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| 01:57.21 | nsmith | the error is at /usr/sbin/lpadmin file not found |
| 01:57.24 | ozzonn | just need some overlay and divx support |
| 01:57.26 | asg | ozzonn: and at not cost even |
| 01:57.29 | sgeigerbot | odl: on public networks, like the Internet, you have to expect that people are listening. |
| 01:57.32 | nsmith | k |
| 01:57.33 | nsmith | i will |
| 01:57.43 | exobyte | I know #winehq is a better place to ask- but I'm running a program with wine and the internal ip doesn't match the system's ip |
| 01:57.44 | vladkao | ozzonn divx ? get mplayer. overlay? what's that ? |
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| 01:57.50 | nsmith | downloading now |
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| 01:57.56 | odl | sgeigerbot, ok i'll make sure to mention all my nasty deeds in my private messages on freenode |
| 01:58.01 | dung | debian is fantastic |
| 01:58.11 | ozzonn | vladkao: graphic overlay, to speed up tv refresh rate |
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| 01:58.38 | ozzonn | i need to instal dga support, tomorrows job :) |
| 01:58.40 | vladkao | ozzonn tv or monitor ? |
| 01:58.42 | auch | how can i prevent the x server from starting when i boot? |
| 01:58.45 | proximacnt | ozzonn: Yes, mplayer is king, but xien works too |
| 01:58.48 | asg | auch: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 01:58.58 | ozzonn | tv, i watch tv on my pc |
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| 01:59.11 | jojako15 | why does it take so long to join channels!?!?!?!!? |
| 01:59.18 | vladkao | ozzonn what video card |
| 01:59.22 | ozzonn | pctv rave |
| 01:59.33 | ozzonn | nvidia gf4 |
| 01:59.35 | ozzonn | lol |
| 01:59.36 | asg | jojako15: your firewall is blocking ident requests from the servers? |
| 01:59.39 | jojako15 | oh my word |
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| 01:59.56 | ozzonn | no im dumb, theres no overlay support atm |
| 02:00.00 | ozzonn | shit |
| 02:00.08 | jojako15 | why wont xchat change channels |
| 02:00.25 | nsmith | Okay, the installation was successful CUPS has my printer installed but when i print a testpage I dont get anything the printer doesnt even do anything |
| 02:00.26 | bivolbg | auch: look at /etc/inittab |
| 02:00.27 | polok | How can I get openoffice.org to use my Japanese fonts? |
| 02:00.41 | bivolbg | # The default runlevel. |
| 02:00.45 | vladkao | jojako15 explain |
| 02:00.45 | jojako15 | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaa |
| 02:00.49 | asg | jojako15: look at the bottom; there should be a button for each channel you are currently on. Click the button for the channel you wish to switch to. |
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| 02:00.59 | ozzonn | polok install ttf font server |
| 02:00.59 | asg | jojako15: say 'HI ASG, I HEAR YOU' |
| 02:01.07 | vladkao | ozzonn the tvout is not integrated i assume |
| 02:01.11 | polok | ozzonn: thanks |
| 02:01.42 | ozzonn | vladkao: its doesnt do anything with tv out |
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| 02:01.57 | asg | jojako15: say 'HI ASG, I HEAR YOU' |
| 02:01.59 | ozzonn | u know what is overlay no ? |
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| 02:02.04 | auch | thanks, let me see how this goes |
| 02:02.12 | Golum5 | what was the grafical package managment program's name again? |
| 02:02.13 | Golum5 | hmm |
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| 02:02.20 | FieldySnuts | vi |
| 02:02.25 | jojako15 | can anyone tell me why xchat wont change servers? |
| 02:02.26 | vladkao | ozzonn no, i mean, if it is integrated, you need the newest nvidia drivers. if it's not ... then you are on your own ;) |
| 02:02.27 | asg | Golum5: xterm -e aptitude |
| 02:02.29 | strmcrw | '/msg dpkg kp |
| 02:02.41 | beta3 | asg: some reason I have a feeling he is just talking directly through Net::IRC and receives no feedback |
| 02:03.00 | Golum5 | asg.. thats curses based.. |
| 02:03.00 | Golum5 | not "grafical" |
| 02:03.00 | exobyte | is there a way to send an x program into the background and just ignore the visual stuff? |
| 02:03.04 | ozzonn | vladkao: overlay is like dma for graphics, video data doesnt go through cpu |
| 02:03.14 | asg | beta3: I thought he was -fg black -bg black. I even had simonrvn kick him with a message indicating as much. To no avail |
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| 02:03.18 | ozzonn | but nvidia has only overlay for quadro cards |
| 02:03.31 | ozzonn | (got my drivers yesterday...) |
| 02:03.32 | beta3 | asg: he is definetly using net:;IRC |
| 02:03.41 | auch | cool, i just commented out the line in the default-display-manager file |
| 02:03.45 | asg | Golum5: ambiguous definition |
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| 02:04.03 | jojako15 | HI ASG I HEAR YOU |
| 02:04.05 | jjh | Golum5: synaptic? |
| 02:04.07 | Golum5 | forget it.. I found out.. synaptic |
| 02:04.11 | Golum5 | :D |
| 02:04.12 | beta3 | asg: you proved me wrong |
| 02:04.13 | FieldySnuts | jojako15: choad |
| 02:04.20 | Tres`ni | Is there an easy way to resize an Ext3 partition? (ie, without losing a ton of data) |
| 02:04.29 | auch | i'd like to know how i can get a higher resolution on the console though |
| 02:04.35 | beta3 | Tres`ni: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdXY |
| 02:04.37 | nsmith | can I paste four lines? |
| 02:04.40 | asg | jojako15: okay, now that you are listening, what version of X-Chat are you using? |
| 02:04.44 | beta3 | nsmith: thats the limit I think |
| 02:04.48 | vladkao | asg may be he needs mouse operated "grafical" frontend |
| 02:04.51 | nsmith | beta3: is that a no? |
| 02:04.57 | beta3 | nsmith: I reccomend flood |
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| 02:05.08 | nsmith | will someone look at what cups says about my printer in flood |
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| 02:05.15 | asg | vladkao: it was a joke, though I do consider curses to be grafical (sic) |
| 02:05.26 | Matthew_I | does mysql hold the last modified date for records? |
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| 02:05.43 | nsmith | anyone? |
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| 02:05.49 | FieldySnuts | !ne1 |
| 02:05.49 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you |
| 02:05.52 | vladkao | asg it's waaay better than typing things in the console, but i do think it can be considered graphical |
| 02:05.54 | treestone | Tres`ni: Best way is to use LVM (or LVM2) to start with, then resize with either e2fsadm or lvmextend+resize2fs |
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| 02:06.12 | michal | how could I use awk to number lines ala cat -n or nl ? |
| 02:06.17 | jojako15 | can anyone tell me how to set kdm to run on boot? |
| 02:06.18 | asg | vladkao: depends on the user and what they are used to. I'm much more efficient using mutt than say evolution |
| 02:06.24 | nsmith | Description: Lexmark Z32 |
| 02:06.24 | nsmith | Location: |
| 02:06.24 | nsmith | Printer State: processing, accepting jobs. |
| 02:06.27 | sgeigerbot | michal: why don't you use cat? |
| 02:06.27 | nsmith | Device URI: file:/dev/null |
| 02:06.33 | jojako15 | or what the diff is bewteem kdm and startx? |
| 02:06.34 | FieldySnuts | he said #flood .. |
| 02:06.47 | FieldySnuts | one is annoying, the other isn't |
| 02:06.52 | vladkao | asg yes, some people are afraid of the keyboards... |
| 02:06.52 | proximacnt | nsmith: /dev/null printers are the latest; they're blazingly fast |
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| 02:07.15 | nsmith | proximacnt: Thats what the installer set it up as i cant change it if i do i wont have the options to pick my printer |
| 02:07.18 | FieldySnuts | odl uses cat /dev/zero | telnet fbi.gov 80 to print |
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| 02:07.24 | FieldySnuts | i wouldn't suggest doing that, btw |
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| 02:07.26 | michal | sgeigerbot: because i can't find a cat for dos that does it properly.. nor nl |
| 02:07.26 | asg | jojako15: kdm is a display manger (graphical login). 'startx' is a wrapper script that starts X. |
| 02:07.34 | odl | FieldySnuts, did you figure any of that stuff out with terminatorX |
| 02:07.37 | asg | jojako15: /msg dpkg dm (for your previous question.) |
| 02:07.37 | treestone | Tres`ni: If you're not using a logical volume manager then you can *very carefully* make the partition bigger with fdisk, then use resize2fs afterwards. On your on risk. Unmount first, then do e2fsck -f before continuing. |
| 02:07.49 | FieldySnuts | odl: no i'll screw with it later, tired |
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