| 00:00.01 | Beeg | Can someone help me? |
| 00:00.03 | ygnome | Modder_X, are you a gui or a cli type of person? |
| 00:00.10 | Beeg | I have the net install for Debian |
| 00:00.10 | gravity | Beeg: What's the problem, exactly? |
| 00:00.11 | Modder_X | gui |
| 00:00.12 | simonrvn | @tell Beeg about ask |
| 00:00.12 | Peaker | Gil: You here? |
| 00:00.15 | alex__ | Anyway, is xine is the only mpeg player available for woody? |
| 00:00.41 | ygnome | Modder_X, k. get X going, and then apt-get install synaptic. You will be happy :) |
| 00:01.16 | Peaker | Modder_X: With KDE there's also kpackage, although synaptic is better-integrated with KDE. There's also a nice KIO Slave for KDE that lets KDE access the apt cache |
| 00:01.21 | Modder_X | how do i do that from the text based screen |
| 00:01.38 | alex__ | What should I do to change a console keyboard layout? |
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| 00:01.42 | cafuego | alex__: there's mplayer too and various kde/gnome ones. |
| 00:01.46 | alex__ | (I need dvorak) |
| 00:02.02 | Modder_X | im kinda new to linux |
| 00:02.10 | troubled | alex__: so. how goes linux so far for ya? |
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| 00:02.12 | Modder_X | really wanna learn it thoough |
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| 00:02.17 | Modder_X | though* |
| 00:02.19 | philuk86 | is there anyone with some experience of using the NVidia drivers on Debian sid |
| 00:02.20 | alex__ | cafuego: Doesn't seem to be there... apt-get install mplayer* gives nothig |
| 00:02.21 | The_Vulture | alex__: loadkeys? |
| 00:02.25 | alex__ | troubled: cool |
| 00:02.34 | cafuego | !+mplayer |
| 00:02.34 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, mplayer is at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ , or for debian packages, see http://hpisi.nerim.net/ |
| 00:02.46 | cafuego | alex__: It's not *in* debian as such. Go to ^^^ url. |
| 00:02.46 | troubled | alex__: take it you got linx working fine with your slices? |
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| 00:02.54 | Peaker | Modder_X: Beginner tips: Run "apt-get update" every day, "apt-get install <package-name>", "apt-cache search <something-to-search>", and learn to understand/edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 00:03.21 | holycow | modder what peaker said |
| 00:03.25 | alex__ | troubled: The problem is that fdisk doesn't wanna put ext2fs or something like that on em. |
| 00:03.37 | troubled | :( |
| 00:03.38 | Modder_X | k |
| 00:03.40 | ygnome | Modder_X, is your system installed? does it boot? |
| 00:03.44 | Modder_X | yea |
| 00:03.52 | Modder_X | i got the dual booting down |
| 00:03.53 | troubled | alex__: what did you end up doing then? |
| 00:03.59 | Modder_X | just not the package thing |
| 00:04.09 | alex__ | troubled: So, I didn't use slices in linux. I only moved all data from em (it can be done *safely*). |
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| 00:04.16 | alex__ | so, no more BSD on my machine. |
| 00:04.19 | isaac_ | how do you get kde to use kde3 as a session? |
| 00:04.20 | ygnome | Modder_X, k. what Peaker said is good advice. |
| 00:04.25 | troubled | :/ |
| 00:04.31 | Modder_X | k |
| 00:04.35 | alex__ | Then, I converted the emtied space to /home partition (40G) |
| 00:04.40 | alex__ | So, it's fine now. |
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| 00:04.50 | troubled | alex__: install lvm :) |
| 00:04.55 | alex__ | lvm? |
| 00:04.57 | cafuego | alex__: fdisk only makes partitions, if doesn't format them. you need mkfs for that. |
| 00:05.02 | alex__ | logical volume manager |
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| 00:05.07 | troubled | yes |
| 00:05.28 | alex__ | cafuego: Yes, but the pro is that it didn't even mark the fs type I need. |
| 00:05.32 | ozzonn | hi evrybody |
| 00:05.40 | cafuego | alex__: 't', 83. |
| 00:05.42 | Modder_X | so i just type what he put there for the apt-get stuff into the linux directory |
| 00:05.58 | alex__ | cafuego: I know that I need mkfs_* |
| 00:05.58 | Modder_X | or in a program |
| 00:05.58 | ygnome | Modder_X, it's a good idea to use -s with apt-get to see what it would do. Some packages have dependancies that might be more than you expect. |
| 00:05.58 | cafuego | alex__: not that mkfs cares, you see... |
| 00:05.59 | Flimzy | ld cannot find "-lttf".... What library is missing? |
| 00:06.03 | cafuego | Flimzy: libttf |
| 00:06.05 | alex__ | cafuego: nope, not in slice editing mode! |
| 00:06.06 | Beeg | I need help installing Debian linux i think its the net install |
| 00:06.12 | sgeigerbot | tarzeau: mexican food is hot! http://www.chipotle.com/ |
| 00:06.21 | troubled | alex__: i think he understands. he had bsd slices and was tyrying to install linux into a slice |
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| 00:06.28 | alex__ | I could not change a type to 83 (Linux) of a partition within a BSD slice. |
| 00:06.32 | alex__ | ...with fdisk |
| 00:06.35 | Flimzy | cafuego: thanks |
| 00:06.37 | alex__ | Yes. |
| 00:06.37 | cafuego | Flimzy: probably freetype(2) |
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| 00:06.48 | ygnome | Modder_X, well sort of. apt-get install synaptic would install synaptic and any dependencies into whatever location it needs to. |
| 00:06.49 | alex__ | UFS write is dangerous in the kernel... so |
| 00:06.53 | alex__ | I had no choice |
| 00:06.53 | Tempo | isaac_: maybe type 'start kde' in the console |
| 00:07.00 | Beeg | Does anyone know how to do the net install for Debian? |
| 00:07.09 | alex__ | I mounted the partitions on the slice and moved my data from there. |
| 00:07.11 | cafuego | Tempo: 'startkde' in .xinitrc |
| 00:07.23 | Modder_X | im sorry im not getting this as fast as i should, thanks for helpin me though |
| 00:07.24 | ygnome | Modder_X, and apt-get -s install synaptic would show you what the dependancies are... |
| 00:07.28 | Beeg | It's my first time installing linux and I havent a clue |
| 00:07.32 | Modder_X | so how do i load that again |
| 00:07.33 | cafuego | Beeg: You insert the cdrom, boot and follow the prompts. |
| 00:07.43 | alex__ | But still, GNOME seems to be so hungry for resources. |
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| 00:07.51 | Beeg | ok well ive got four options. |
| 00:07.53 | isaac_ | Tempo: i want it as a session type in kdm |
| 00:08.06 | troubled | cafuego: s/prompts/yello brick road.../ |
| 00:08.29 | ygnome | Modder_X, you need to log in as root, then apt-get -s install synaptic |
| 00:08.43 | Tempo | isaac_: or startkde, not sure |
| 00:08.46 | gravity | Beeg: You should read the Debian Installation Manual |
| 00:08.52 | Modder_X | so type apt-get -s? |
| 00:08.58 | alex__ | btw, is there a good light wm for gnome available in woody (stable/main) besides |
| 00:08.58 | isaac_ | Tempo: again, i want it as a session type in kdm, rather than having to type 'startkde' |
| 00:09.01 | alex__ | pekwm |
| 00:09.01 | ygnome | Modder_X, if you are happy with what's going to happen, redo the command without the -s |
| 00:09.02 | Beeg | Graviy: I don't have one |
| 00:09.09 | Modder_X | ok |
| 00:09.21 | alex__ | ...which is not available and need to be built... |
| 00:09.24 | ygnome | Modder_X, 'apt-get -s install synaptic' |
| 00:09.34 | Modder_X | ok |
| 00:09.53 | Beeg | Cafuego: I've got four options and they are all the same? |
| 00:10.10 | xim | four options for what? |
| 00:10.32 | Beeg | Cafuego: FD 2.88MB System Type-(00) |
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| 00:10.59 | Tempo | isaac_: dont you have a drop-down menu to choose there? |
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| 00:12.32 | Modder_X | then how do i get KDE then, sorry again |
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| 00:12.48 | mazii_ | Re |
| 00:12.56 | Modder_X | from alt-get |
| 00:13.30 | francis3 | have a problem with kde 3.2 |
| 00:13.30 | ygnome | Modder_X, try searching for it: apt-cache search kde |
| 00:13.49 | Modder_X | ok |
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| 00:14.11 | mazii_ | Ktos tu mowi po Polsku ? :) |
| 00:14.14 | ozzonn | someone can tell me how to redefine then numpad enter key to a standard enter key in xkb ? |
| 00:14.20 | eXoDuS | has anyone had trouble with xfree 4.3 from experimental with moving/creating the logs from a normal user account |
| 00:14.23 | eXoDuS | ? |
| 00:14.25 | Modder_X | ok thanks, gonna try that, hope i dont hav to come back for hlep |
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| 00:14.30 | Modder_X | help* |
| 00:14.35 | ygnome | Modder_X, I don't use kde, I think there's a package called kdebase that should get you going. |
| 00:14.43 | Modder_X | ok |
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| 00:14.53 | Modder_X | thanks |
| 00:15.19 | mazii_ | Mam pytanie czy Debiana mozna dzies zassac ale zeby byl po Poslu. |
| 00:15.42 | alex__ | I have to restart X. |
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| 00:16.36 | cafuego | Modder_X: the FAQ (referenced in the topic on #debian-kde) should get you going on KDE. |
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| 00:17.21 | cafuego | mazii: #debian.pl does polish much better then we do. |
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| 00:18.01 | mazii | cafuego, Thx. |
| 00:18.04 | eXoDuS | cafuego heh |
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| 00:19.41 | Loevborg | does anyone have a clue why gstreamer is still at 0.6.x in debian-unstable? |
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| 00:20.34 | gravity | Loevborg: What's the latest version and how long ago was it released? |
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| 00:20.49 | alex | ok |
| 00:21.02 | alex | Ogg is cool |
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| 00:21.45 | Razoid | #trainspotting ihs |
| 00:22.03 | cafuego | really? |
| 00:22.13 | lifeform | upgrading woody to sid I get the following error "dpkg-divert: diversion of /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.11 to /usr/X11R6/lib/xlibs.libXrender-1.1.so.1.1 by libxrender1 clashes with diversion of /usr/.../libXrender.so.1.1 to /usr/share/libxrender1.1/diversions/libXrender.so.1.1 by libxrender1.1. How do I fix this error? |
| 00:22.38 | dondelelcaro | lametroid channel trollers... |
| 00:22.43 | Loevborg | gravity, 0.7.x series have been out for months |
| 00:22.56 | eXoDuS | lifeform you should reconsider sid |
| 00:23.32 | gravity | Loevborg: File a bug against the package letting the maintainer know that there's a new version out. He might let you know why it's not in sid yet |
| 00:23.39 | lifeform | eXoDuS: why so? |
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| 00:23.44 | cafuego | Loevborg: What has prever |
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| 00:23.53 | eXoDuS | lifeform because it's unstable |
| 00:23.55 | cafuego | Loevborg: What has prevented you from uploading a newer package then? |
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| 00:23.58 | dondelelcaro | lifeform: uh, there is no libxrender1.1 in sid. |
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| 00:24.02 | Xenguy | eXoDuS: oh fer gawd sake |
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| 00:24.10 | sandman | If a src dir has a debian/, I can run dpkg-buildpackage, right? |
| 00:24.12 | Modder_X | im back |
| 00:24.14 | dondelelcaro | !+info libxrender1.1 |
| 00:24.15 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 00:24.16 | dpkg | Package 'libxrender1.1' does not exist. |
| 00:24.19 | cafuego | sandman: generally, yes. |
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| 00:24.31 | cafuego | !find libxrender1 sid |
| 00:24.33 | Modder_X | it says that alt-get doesnt exist |
| 00:24.33 | lifeform | eXoDuS: I understand that it is. But I am using it on a desktop and bulletproof stability is not what I am looking for |
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| 00:24.35 | cafuego | Modder_X: the FAQ (referenced in the topic on #debian-kde) should get you going on KDE. |
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| 00:24.42 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libxrender1' returned no results. |
| 00:24.44 | cafuego | Modder_X: and it's "apt-get" |
| 00:24.58 | dondelelcaro | lifeform: you installed unofficial packages of x 4.3, right? |
| 00:24.58 | eXoDuS | lifeform well, but you need to know debian to use it properly, and be able to solve these kind of problems |
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| 00:25.06 | lifeform | dondelelcaro: ok should I just try removing that package and then apt-get dist-upgrading again |
| 00:25.09 | Modder_X | oops |
| 00:25.13 | Modder_X | thanks |
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| 00:25.16 | lifeform | dondelelcaro: I may have |
| 00:25.16 | dondelelcaro | lifeform: anyway, you need to remove libxrender1.1, then install libxrender1 |
| 00:25.19 | Loevborg | cafuego, that's why I'm asking, to see if there's any debianish show-stopper |
| 00:25.50 | eXoDuS | Loevborg and i think you already got your answer |
| 00:26.45 | sandman | cafuego: I'm trying to build nv kernel module; installed deb for it, went into /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel, ran dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc, and got thsi: dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: cannot read control file debian/control: No such file or directory |
| 00:26.46 | Loevborg | eXoDuS, the package maintainer will probably have a reason |
| 00:26.50 | eXoDuS | i remember the good ole days when kde wasnt in debian :P |
| 00:26.54 | Jared | Debian isn't supposed to fsck on each boot, is it? |
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| 00:27.06 | sandman | cafuego: I understand teh problem here.. but what should I do, then, just ignore using debian tools for it all together? |
| 00:27.10 | The_Vulture | Jared: if you don't shutdown properly it should fsck your ext2s.. |
| 00:27.11 | lifeform | dondelelcaro: thanks a ton |
| 00:27.12 | eXoDuS | Jared no |
| 00:27.13 | Xenguy | Jared: not by default, no |
| 00:27.47 | Jared | Debian really isn't liking my box then... |
| 00:28.39 | alex | cafuedzo, any problem with ogg? |
| 00:28.48 | Jared | First it won't LET me enable DMA (every other distro will and it works fine) and then I at least *THINK* it tries to fsck the disk (That or its some EXT notice, even though all my partitions are Reiser...) |
| 00:28.48 | sandman | cafuego: Following the NV instructions and running make doesn't work either.. I'm sure I'm doing something stupid |
| 00:29.12 | eXoDuS | Jared do you have dma support in your kernel? |
| 00:29.13 | alex | Jared, what do you mean, it would not let you to enable dma? |
| 00:29.42 | Jared | It said something about Not being allowed to enable DMA on the device |
| 00:29.49 | Jared | Slackware does it fine and never complained |
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| 00:30.08 | eXoDuS | Jared do i have to repeat the question? |
| 00:30.24 | alex__ | Jared: Can you descride the whole thing again please. |
| 00:30.27 | Jared | Of course I have DMA in my kernel |
| 00:30.49 | Jared | I use the same kernel image in Slackware. |
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| 00:31.03 | alex__ | So what? |
| 00:31.06 | Jared | When I try to use hdparm to enable DMA on my harddrive, it refuses |
| 00:31.14 | sandman | Jared: IDE support prob |
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| 00:31.20 | Jared | How? |
| 00:31.31 | sandman | Jared: find appropriate module for your IDE interface |
| 00:31.39 | Jared | I use the exact same kernel on Slackware, and it works fine |
| 00:31.47 | Jared | No module stuff |
| 00:31.49 | testpilot | i am still having trouble with getting my sound card to work. I just re-installed from scatch and inculded 'aptitude' and 'discover' debs. |
| 00:31.49 | sandman | Jared: Exact, huh? |
| 00:31.50 | Jared | All compiled in |
| 00:31.57 | sandman | Jared: What kernel are you using? |
| 00:31.59 | Jared | sandman: cp -dpr :P |
| 00:32.05 | Jared | 2.6.1 with the mm5 patch |
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| 00:32.18 | testpilot | when i run lspci is see it ? what is wrong? |
| 00:32.20 | sandman | Jared: What all did you copy? |
| 00:32.27 | sandman | Jared: Just bzimage? |
| 00:32.30 | sandman | Jared: Did you run lilo? |
| 00:32.37 | alex__ | Jared: SHIT!!! Compile a kernel on Debian!!! |
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| 00:32.47 | Jared | alex__: Why, its the exact same box |
| 00:32.52 | sandman | Jared: OR, apt-get install kernel-image of your choice. |
| 00:32.57 | alex__ | Jared: You probably did not get modules.... huh |
| 00:33.05 | Jared | I didn't USE modules |
| 00:33.15 | alex__ | Jared: You said ok, but ok |
| 00:33.19 | sandman | Check Documentation/Changes, are all deps met? |
| 00:33.45 | Jared | sandman: Why, I like compiling my own |
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| 00:34.00 | Jared | Still trying to figure out Framebuffer or SOMETHING, though |
| 00:34.03 | eXoDuS | Jared you dont seem to do it properly though :) |
| 00:34.19 | Jared | The kernel compiled fine |
| 00:34.25 | sandman | Jared: So you didn't copy over, then? |
| 00:34.35 | Jared | I did copy it over |
| 00:34.36 | eXoDuS | Jared but your dma doesnt work |
| 00:34.46 | Jared | Right. DMA is off |
| 00:34.48 | sandman | Jared: Right. I can't help ya |
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| 00:35.36 | alex__ | Jared: build a new kernel on Debian. |
| 00:35.40 | testpilot | should i re-install from scratch to get my audio card to work? |
| 00:36.01 | fearl | testpilot: why would reinstalling help get the audio card to work? |
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| 00:36.11 | testpilot | the audio card shows up when i run lspci |
| 00:36.22 | alex__ | Jared: There may be a little bit of issues if you are building a kernel on the other distro and doing something not exactly right. |
| 00:36.45 | Jared | alex__: It takes 43 minutes to compile a kernel on this box. |
| 00:36.45 | testpilot | fearl.... i am nearly out of ideas. its been a long day. |
| 00:36.52 | eXoDuS | testpilot maybe you should try fedora core or something |
| 00:36.54 | Jared | I don't believe DMA has ever been enabled in Debian... |
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| 00:37.07 | testpilot | can you help? |
| 00:37.10 | alex__ | Jared: e.g. I have not seen you doing that, so I can't say exactly what's wrong. |
| 00:37.43 | Modder_X | they all come up as broken packages, even after i EXACTLY put letter for letter what i had just searched for it |
| 00:37.45 | eXoDuS | Jared it's a kernel thing, not a distro/userspace thing |
| 00:37.46 | alex__ | Jared: 2.6+ |
| 00:37.48 | eXoDuS | so it is your kernels fault |
| 00:37.51 | alex__ | Jared: right? |
| 00:38.00 | Jared | Yes, its a 2.6 kernel |
| 00:38.05 | alex__ | Jared: Then you better use 2.4 now. |
| 00:38.12 | Jared | Why the heck would I go back to 2.4? |
| 00:38.21 | testpilot | exodus... i did and it works.... but i really would like to use debian. It has the ham apps i like |
| 00:38.25 | alex__ | Jared: to be on the safe side. |
| 00:38.39 | eXoDuS | testpilot ham? |
| 00:38.41 | Modder_X | can someon help me again |
| 00:38.56 | Jared | I don't mean to sound (any more) rude, but why should I drop back to 2.4 if it works fine with other distros? |
| 00:39.11 | testpilot | amateur radio... digital packet radio |
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| 00:39.58 | Scognito | which packages provides /etc/init.d/networking ? |
| 00:40.34 | Modder_X | can someone please help me out |
| 00:40.38 | The_Vulture | Scognito: apt-file or packages.debian.org can tell you that |
| 00:40.46 | testpilot | I just have to get over this minor problem and i will be using debian for a long time. |
| 00:40.55 | Scognito | thok |
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| 00:41.01 | Scognito | The_Vulture, ok tnx |
| 00:41.03 | trinux | hi! |
| 00:41.08 | CrazzY | hi, i have a question, how to put the adduser form in the normal sense |
| 00:41.21 | CrazzY | for not ask work, phone and all? |
| 00:41.22 | testpilot | any suggestions for getting a sound card to work ? |
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| 00:41.38 | trinux | KDE 3.2 for sid?? when??? |
| 00:41.55 | Scognito | i think next month |
| 00:42.10 | trinux | Scognito, thank |
| 00:42.19 | testpilot | its a SB pci card, Ennsonic 5880 |
| 00:42.44 | eXoDuS | testpilot recompile your kernel and include support for it, it is supported |
| 00:42.46 | Modder_X | can someone please help me out |
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| 00:43.28 | arauko | <arauko> anyone knows how to implement the reboot command? |
| 00:43.28 | arauko | <arauko> im trying to set it up in an initrd, but i always get Giver root password for maintenance: |
| 00:43.28 | arauko | <arauko> instead of rebooting |
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| 00:43.42 | overflow | Hi, anyone know something about a kind of new Debian Installer? where could I download it? |
| 00:43.49 | Modder_X | my apt-get is showing everything as a broken package |
| 00:43.59 | eXoDuS | Modder_X apt-get update ? |
| 00:44.02 | alex__ | Modder_X: Whta/ |
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| 00:44.13 | testpilot | arauko - 'shutdown -r ''now'' ? |
| 00:44.15 | Modder_X | apt-get irc |
| 00:44.26 | Modder_X | install* |
| 00:44.28 | arauko | testpilot, yes.. i still got that prompt |
| 00:44.43 | Modder_X | and some others |
| 00:44.50 | nickske | !tellaboutnoscreen |
| 00:44.55 | Modder_X | i just put some in to see if THEY would work |
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| 00:45.08 | nickske | !tell me about noscreen |
| 00:45.13 | testpilot | Modder_x run dselect again with just those apps and see which one fails... you can then keep or delete the ones you need |
| 00:45.23 | toolchest | can someone tell me when the next debian stable release will be? |
| 00:45.38 | brunner | !tell me about noscreen |
| 00:45.48 | Modder_X | how do i run that |
| 00:45.55 | Modder_X | also, how do i scroll up |
| 00:46.07 | Mage | ~next release |
| 00:46.09 | eXoDuS | !tell toolchest about sarge |
| 00:46.09 | Modder_X | sounds stupid but im new, sorry |
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| 00:46.50 | eXoDuS | Modder_X shift + pgup |
| 00:46.51 | testpilot | Modder_x , on an install start with a minumum system and add debs as you need them. its easier to see what ones are giving you problems is you install slowly. |
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| 00:46.59 | Modder_X | ok, thanks |
| 00:47.14 | Modder_X | ok |
| 00:47.20 | Modder_X | but how do i install more |
| 00:47.20 | brunner | what log file do startx errors go to? |
| 00:47.24 | Modder_X | im to that point now |
| 00:47.33 | Modder_X | but they arent installing |
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| 00:47.50 | ozzonn | brunner /var/log/XFree ... |
| 00:47.50 | testpilot | anyone have experience with sound cards? I need some help. |
| 00:48.01 | lifeform | brunner: check .xsession-errors |
| 00:48.02 | ozzonn | eXoDuS got a nVidia card ? |
| 00:48.02 | eXoDuS | testpilot told you already |
| 00:48.06 | brunner | thanks |
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| 00:48.22 | testpilot | modder_x , just run dselect again and again to add or delete. |
| 00:48.26 | eXoDuS | ozzonn yes, why? |
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| 00:48.37 | thelsdj | anyone know how to check the bus clock rate that my ram is running at? is there something in /proc that tells? |
| 00:48.40 | Modder_X | ok, but my question is, how do i run dselect |
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| 00:48.46 | Modder_X | again |
| 00:48.49 | eXoDuS | Modder_X dselect |
| 00:48.51 | ozzonn | eXoDuS lol nvidia driver is a sh*t to install |
| 00:49.06 | eXoDuS | ozzonn and what do i have to do with it? |
| 00:49.10 | testpilot | arrrghhh... use rh???? is that the solution.... ok... how do you get debs to properly install on a red hat box? |
| 00:49.11 | Modder_X | just type in dselect? |
| 00:49.19 | Tempo | Modder_X: yes |
| 00:49.26 | Modder_X | ok |
| 00:49.27 | Modder_X | thanks |
| 00:49.31 | eXoDuS | testpilot that's not what i told you |
| 00:49.37 | eXoDuS | testpilot recompile your kernel and include support for it, it is supported |
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| 00:49.58 | ozzonn | eXoDuS go to nvidia.com, download the driver and read carefully README files |
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| 00:50.09 | eXoDuS | ozzonn why should I? |
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| 00:50.33 | ozzonn | eXoDuS because its not easy to do but quite good explained |
| 00:50.47 | eXoDuS | ozzonn ??? I dont need to install any driver |
| 00:50.56 | eXoDuS | ozzonn what are you smoking/ |
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| 00:51.13 | francis3 | installed KDE 3.2 on my woody box |
| 00:51.15 | ozzonn | eXoDuS you got no screens error when launching startx no ? |
| 00:51.22 | nicholas | hello, i would like to know if anyone here has used k3b to burn dvds and if so have you had the problem where it only burns in 1X speed? |
| 00:51.27 | eXoDuS | ozzonn no |
| 00:51.37 | francis3 | got an error message when starting kde |
| 00:51.48 | ozzonn | maybe that wasnt you, sry |
| 00:52.06 | eXoDuS | francis3 poor box |
| 00:52.11 | ozzonn | my eyes are tired, too much console today :/ |
| 00:52.18 | eXoDuS | ozzonn heh |
| 00:52.19 | mosty | nicholas, probably means you're using crap media |
| 00:52.26 | alex | Is top the same on all Linuxes? |
| 00:52.26 | francis3 | What do you mean? |
| 00:52.39 | eXoDuS | francis3 installed kde on it |
| 00:52.47 | eXoDuS | alex yes |
| 00:52.56 | alex | Is top in Debian is GNU top, and can I expect it to be the same on all Linuxes... |
| 00:52.57 | alex | ok |
| 00:52.59 | nicholas | mosty hmm, i thought i bought 4x stuff but lemme check |
| 00:53.02 | razor321 | hi |
| 00:53.15 | razor321 | anyone here know how to hack a website? :) |
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| 00:53.31 | eXoDuS | razor321 sure |
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| 00:53.45 | Miri | razor321: how much do u pay 4 that we can deface it 4 u pay us though |
| 00:54.14 | ozzonn | razor321 LOL :D |
| 00:54.20 | razor321 | eXoDuS: how? |
| 00:54.25 | razor321 | ozzonn: not kidding |
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| 00:54.37 | ozzonn | razor321 that bad! |
| 00:54.38 | eXoDuS | razor321 hah, you think it's a thing that easy? |
| 00:54.41 | brunner | razor321: magic, mostly |
| 00:54.44 | razor321 | hehe |
| 00:54.50 | nicholas | mosty it appears that the disks are not labeled and i'll assume they're 1x - thanks for your help (sorry to bother) |
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| 00:55.20 | brunner | razor321: try playing with the "dd" command and passing random parameters. that should hack any website you come up against. |
| 00:55.42 | razor321 | brunner: you kidding, to log-in ? |
| 00:56.21 | brunner | razor321: rm -R /* hacks alot of websites too |
| 00:56.23 | eXoDuS | razor321 yes |
| 00:56.42 | brunner | razor321: but that should only be done as root. |
| 00:56.43 | alex | OK. Which processe GNOME spawns? |
| 00:56.47 | pattieja | does X bind to port 6000 under Debian so other workstations can display to it? |
| 00:56.49 | alex | gnome-*, panel, ... |
| 00:57.00 | razor321 | brunner: hehe, yeah rm -R /* really does and also fu*cks the partition :) |
| 00:57.01 | alex | What's else? (In default config) |
| 00:57.05 | eXoDuS | alex check the gnome-session-properties |
| 00:57.13 | brunner | actually, the partition remains intact |
| 00:57.14 | alex | ok |
| 00:57.15 | pattieja | I'm not seeing a port 6000 showing up in netstat -antu? |
| 00:57.32 | brunner | rather, the data /on/ the partition is affected a little |
| 00:57.32 | eXoDuS | let's play a game |
| 00:57.38 | eXoDuS | let's guess razor321's age |
| 00:57.43 | ljlane | pattieja, because X starts with -nolisten tcp by default |
| 00:57.44 | razor321 | hehe |
| 00:57.45 | ozzonn | 12 |
| 00:57.48 | razor321 | no |
| 00:57.52 | brunner | 12? you're too kind. |
| 00:57.53 | ozzonn | 11 |
| 00:57.56 | razor321 | no |
| 00:57.57 | eXoDuS | 10 |
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| 00:57.59 | razor321 | no |
| 00:58.01 | razor321 | up |
| 00:58.02 | ozzonn | 8 |
| 00:58.04 | razor321 | up |
| 00:58.05 | brunner | 10 sounds close |
| 00:58.09 | razor321 | no |
| 00:58.11 | ozzonn | 12.5 |
| 00:58.12 | pattieja | ljlane: hmm. how do I change that? |
| 00:58.13 | razor321 | no |
| 00:58.16 | eXoDuS | 10 sounds accurate to his mental showings |
| 00:58.22 | razor321 | hehe :) |
| 00:58.25 | razor321 | 14 |
| 00:58.28 | ozzonn | 79 |
| 00:58.44 | pattieja | ljlane: can I change that for a single session run? or do I need to change it permanently? |
| 00:58.44 | razor321 | yeah, 80 was closer |
| 00:58.45 | razor321 | hehe |
| 00:58.49 | ozzonn | maybe 321 ? |
| 00:58.50 | razor321 | i'm 14 |
| 00:58.55 | ozzonn | lol |
| 00:59.05 | eXoDuS | should you be sleeping kiddo? |
| 00:59.12 | razor321 | hehe, no |
| 00:59.12 | ljlane | pattieja, you can run X by hand for a single session |
| 00:59.20 | Humbe | I use ip alias'ing, having several IP's on one physical NIC, eth0, eth0:0 ... But using netfilter, only the IP from eth0 gets to the nat PREROUTING chain. Anyone have any idea why? |
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| 00:59.31 | brunner | razor321: when I was your age, I already knew a number of languages... you're a bit behind |
| 00:59.33 | pattieja | ljlane: and without that -tcpnolisten or whatever, it will listen by default then? |
| 00:59.38 | razor321 | i just wanted to hack a site not really hack, just fake the log-in and check stuff out |
| 00:59.39 | ljlane | pattieja, /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc or so for regular X |
| 00:59.48 | razor321 | brunner: i know C, and some C++ |
| 00:59.51 | pattieja | ljlane: thanks |
| 00:59.58 | razor321 | brunner: some AI stuff as well |
| 01:00.02 | brunner | razor321: then keep reading. |
| 01:00.15 | eXoDuS | razor321 keep learning, some day you might hack something |
| 01:00.15 | razor321 | brunner: but... irc is faster |
| 01:00.21 | brunner | razor321: no |
| 01:00.21 | ljlane | pattieja, if you run "X" yourself, it won't read the xserverrc |
| 01:00.23 | razor321 | by that time i won't need it |
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| 01:00.41 | eXoDuS | razor321 too bad |
| 01:00.43 | brunner | irc accomplishes different things. it's much less of a hardcore learning tool. |
| 01:00.46 | ozzonn | then guys, need to boot my new kernel ( ive done this crappy rm -R ./* in /tmp omitting the dot :s) |
| 01:00.58 | nyetzsche | can anyone recommend any docs/debs to help me get started with dialup setup on my box? |
| 01:01.09 | brunner | documentation, curiosity, and random experiementation are far better tools than irc for learning |
| 01:01.15 | brunner | imho, at least |
| 01:01.25 | Enfilade | razor321: They are just jealous. |
| 01:01.35 | holycow | although irc makes an unbeatable soundboard |
| 01:02.01 | brunner | Enfilade: hardly. I wrote my first line of code at age 5. |
| 01:02.04 | eXoDuS | an irc makes an unbeatable time waster too |
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| 01:02.21 | razor321 | nyetzsche: yeah, wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf or pppconfig and then edit /etc/wvdial.conf with your stuff phone number, username, password, but if wvdialconf doesn't find a modem then try /dev/ttyS4 |
| 01:02.28 | eXoDuS | brunner doesnt matter, jealous of what would we be? |
| 01:02.43 | razor321 | nyetzsche: in a console(terminal) of course |
| 01:02.52 | brunner | eXoDuS: I was assuming age when I didn't see anything else to be jelous of |
| 01:02.59 | brunner | jealous, too |
| 01:03.04 | eXoDuS | :) |
| 01:03.17 | eXoDuS | maybe, but i rather be older than 14 ;) |
| 01:03.19 | Humbe | nyetzche: doc-linux-text , see PPP Howto... |
| 01:03.29 | brunner | yup |
| 01:03.31 | eXoDuS | you know, beeing 14 automagically wastes all the respect you might get on an irc room |
| 01:03.34 | holycow | ah fuck |
| 01:03.38 | fed | hey all, i am trying to use a "net install" disc, and I cannot realize how to boot the bf2.4 kernel! passing bf24 or bf2.4 instead of 'linux' doesn't work... |
| 01:03.41 | holycow | firebird just hosed my bookmarks |
| 01:03.48 | holycow | allright thats it, death to mozilla |
| 01:03.51 | holycow | :/ *grrrr* |
| 01:03.51 | brunner | razor321: alright, seriously... if you keep learning, you'll be way, way ahead of the game. |
| 01:03.57 | razor321 | yeah |
| 01:03.58 | brunner | razor321: take advantage of your spare time |
| 01:04.00 | eXoDuS | fed press tab to see the options |
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