| 00:00.00 | aseidl | WeB-AwaY: apt-get install blackbox && echo "exec blackbox" > ~/.xinitrc && startx ;) |
| 00:00.00 | mwilson | Poorly-supported project to get this far and have no build-automation. |
| 00:00.07 | tcsetattr | do you expect them to remember to type -lXaw? If so, why not -L/usr/X11/lib? if not, why don't you put the -L/usr/X11/lib wherever you've put the -lXaw? |
| 00:00.12 | kc9ddi | mwilson: I really agree with what you're saying. However, these people just aren't like that. Please stop attacking _me_ do to _their_ stupidity |
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| 00:00.25 | mwilson | No, I'm attacking you due to YOUR stupidity. |
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| 00:00.41 | kc9ddi | tcsetattr: Because the compiler interface already adds -lXaw when used with the debugging options? |
| 00:00.42 | mwilson | If your mandate is to facilitate what they're doing, then get on with it already. |
| 00:00.57 | kc9ddi | mwilson: I'm trying to |
| 00:00.57 | tcsetattr | so modify it |
| 00:00.57 | aseidl | WeB-AwaY: but really, you change something in your .xinitrc so that it says something like exec startkde (I don't use KDE, haven't for years) |
| 00:01.03 | luciux | ComoX: which file manager do you think use less memory? |
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| 00:01.12 | kc9ddi | tcsetattr: I'm paging through the script right now |
| 00:01.30 | tcsetattr | modify the thing that adds the -lXaw, make it add the -L too, that'd be the reasonable thing. |
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| 00:01.50 | kc9ddi | It doesn't seem to listen to $LDFLAGS. tcsetattr, that's what I'm looking for right now... |
| 00:02.01 | mwilson | Hm, if I'm going to go ahead and allow XF430 to install, what's the easiest way to make sure it doesn't do anything stupid like cursor themes? |
| 00:02.02 | tcsetattr | if not, you can always symlink all the libXaw instances into /usr/lib |
| 00:02.09 | chris | GomoX: it works, excellent thanks |
| 00:02.36 | mwilson | I'll also have to make sure it doesn't load RandR, but I can do that later. |
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| 00:03.25 | kc9ddi | mwilson, tcsetattr, Thanks for your help. I think I got it working... |
| 00:03.33 | kc9ddi | automated I should say |
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| 00:04.41 | WeB-AwaY | aseidl how do i change that stuff? |
| 00:05.02 | eeyore- | what's the current website for gnome themes now? (themes on sourceforge seems a little lacking) |
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| 00:05.45 | Jondab | what's the difference between installing soundcore + soundcard driver module vs. alsa? |
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| 00:06.00 | aseidl | WeB-AwaY: vim, pico, nano, joe, emacs...just about any text editor |
| 00:06.07 | GCBirzan | ALSA is better. *coughs* |
| 00:06.11 | WeB-AwaY | ehm |
| 00:06.15 | WeB-AwaY | i have no TXT editor |
| 00:06.20 | WeB-AwaY | i geuss |
| 00:06.24 | WeB-AwaY | i have installed Debian |
| 00:06.25 | GomoX | WeB-AwaY: yes you have |
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| 00:06.36 | WeB-AwaY | ow GomoX Tell me more? |
| 00:06.40 | nk | alsa in fun |
| 00:06.43 | nk | :> |
| 00:06.52 | GomoX | WeB-AwaY: you already have pico and nvi |
| 00:06.54 | Jondab | but i can't install alsa when i first install debian? |
| 00:07.02 | GomoX | Jondab: no |
| 00:07.05 | Jondab | i only have the option to install soundcore + soundcard module |
| 00:07.09 | WeB-AwaY | GomoX how do i use that programm? |
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| 00:07.19 | Jondab | should i have left it without anything and installed alsa later? :S |
| 00:07.41 | GomoX | Jondab: no, removing the other module is trivial |
| 00:07.59 | Jondab | GomoX: ok, but i thought it would put it in the kernel? |
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| 00:08.33 | GomoX | Jondab: kernel modules can be unloaded easily |
| 00:08.45 | Jondab | GomoX: ok, great. thanks :D |
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| 00:08.58 | GomoX | if you are using a non-built-by-yourself kernel then you can apt-get install alsa-modules-xxx where xxx is your kernel version |
| 00:09.11 | maalox_ | Hey everyone, I'm running 2.6.3-mm2 and I want to set up ALSA, but every time I use modconf to insert something it gives me bunch of warnings and then an "installation failed". Is there any way I can rebuild my modules.conf file, since that's where the warnings are coming from? |
| 00:10.08 | Jondab | kewl |
| 00:10.42 | Jondab | what about 3d support? i loaded the radeon module, and it's 3d module. is there anything else i need (like alsa for the sound)? |
| 00:10.52 | Jondab | or will the 3d just work now? |
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| 00:12.29 | GomoX | Jondab: dont know about radeon cards, i have nvidia :/ |
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| 00:12.37 | Jondab | ok, np. thanks anyway. |
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| 00:13.12 | Jondab | i just wanna see how quake will play on linux. hehe |
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| 00:13.37 | GomoX | Jondab: forget quake and grab the demo of ut2004 while its still warm |
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| 00:14.11 | jmitch | is firefox broken in sid? |
| 00:14.20 | GCBirzan | Works fine for me. |
| 00:14.26 | jmitch | hmm |
| 00:14.33 | Jondab | jmitch: working fine on my laptop, too. |
| 00:14.35 | GCBirzan | Though, I see there's a newere version. |
| 00:14.38 | GCBirzan | Newer. |
| 00:14.45 | jmitch | the script just prints nothing for me, and when I run it from /lib/mozilla-firefox it cant find libs |
| 00:14.48 | jmitch | bleh, ill look into it |
| 00:14.57 | jmitch | GCBirzan: just dist-upgraded like 4 minutes ago :) |
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| 00:15.53 | GCBirzan | 2% [1 console-data 542304/1079kB 50%] 60.5kB/s 5m11s |
| 00:16.03 | GCBirzan | So, we'll soon see. :-P |
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| 00:17.13 | jmitch | GCBirzan: the mozilla-firefox shell script just doesnt seem to do ANYTHING for me |
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| 00:17.26 | jmitch | and when I run the bin it says it cant find mozjsx.so and things |
| 00:17.34 | jmitch | they are all in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/lib .... |
| 00:17.46 | jmitch | GCBirzan: any ideas? |
| 00:17.58 | davi | How to disable APIC ? |
| 00:18.14 | FreddyK | append="noapic" |
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| 00:18.28 | FreddyK | or nolapic for disabling local apic |
| 00:18.29 | davi | Where FreddyK |
| 00:18.35 | FreddyK | lilo.conf |
| 00:18.38 | Jambon | bonjour! |
| 00:18.43 | davi | thanks FreddyK |
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| 00:19.15 | cappadocian | i'm looking for a site where documents (such as an 'apt' guide) can be downloaded in all-in-one-html-file format. any pointers on where to look? most of the stuff i've found is broken up into chapters on separate pages. |
| 00:19.32 | Goodfy | Yes, on the Debian documentation. |
| 00:20.06 | cappadocian | lol, i'm looking there :) |
| 00:20.17 | Goodfy | There is an APT guide there. |
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| 00:21.04 | mwilson | rei $ whois 200.40.18.94 | grep inetnum |
| 00:21.04 | mwilson | inetnum: 200.40.0/17 |
| 00:21.16 | mwilson | Am I reading that whois right? That's a rather large netblock. |
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| 00:21.42 | MrIron | 9/tcp open discard |
| 00:21.43 | MrIron | 13/tcp open daytime |
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| 00:21.45 | MrIron | whats this? |
| 00:21.51 | kc9ddi | Anyone know of a text-based PDF viewer than can be used in a console |
| 00:21.52 | kc9ddi | ? |
| 00:22.07 | Goodfy | Anyone have a good working solution to getting ATI Mobility to work on laptops with 3d acceleration? |
| 00:22.42 | cappadocian | Goodfy, thanks buddy....didn't think to look at the "text" version. |
| 00:23.08 | Goodfy | They have a PDF on there too I believe. |
| 00:23.08 | Jacobo221 | at the largo page (largo.windowmaker.org) there's a tip on redirecting X messages to /dev/console. I've been trying for some days to do so: no succeed. I've just talked with him and he says it worked about six years ago... but he believes it may not work now. the questions are: why not working? any walkaround? |
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| 00:25.03 | tcsetattr | mwilson, /17 isn't a large block for a national phone company |
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