| 00:00.03 | somiaj | blas_: what version of debian are you running? Try ati's sight, I'm not exactly sure where the linux X drivers are, I just know they are out there. |
| 00:00.15 | mreynolds | dli: Yes, but I can't *get* the thing to the computer. It's just as easy for me to build the kernel manually on another box and move it. Using make-kpkg. |
| 00:00.15 | nz | ooooo |
| 00:00.15 | Manoj` | pattieja: I am not familiar with OpenCA |
| 00:00.18 | pattieja | Manoj`: I just built the packages and installed them. I did have a previous version, but I rm -rf'd /etc/openca before starting the install for this version |
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| 00:00.28 | pattieja | Manoj`: it's a pain to get right |
| 00:00.29 | FieldySnuts | I have *never* hurt a bitch. |
| 00:00.33 | Manoj` | pattieja: did you have another versions of OpenCA installed before? |
| 00:00.35 | FieldySnuts | unless she had it COMIN' TO HER |
| 00:00.37 | FieldySnuts | sorry. |
| 00:00.46 | pattieja | Manoj`: another .deb attempt |
| 00:00.59 | blas_ | somiaj 3.0woody |
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| 00:01.21 | Manoj` | pattieja: does /var/lib/dpkg/info/openca.* exist? |
| 00:01.25 | rory_ | nz: you can check out http://www.mutt.org or simply search for ".muttrc" on google. Remembering to set your MAIL environmental variable is also important. After that about 30 lines of configuration should get you going. |
| 00:01.30 | pattieja | Manoj`: but I tried to delete all remnants from the filesystem |
| 00:01.35 | pattieja | Manoj`: let me check |
| 00:01.41 | Manoj` | pattieja: specifically, did it have conffiles registered? |
| 00:01.43 | dli | mreynolds: how can you transfer it? after you build it somewhere else |
| 00:01.44 | nz | speaking of .muttrc, i dont have that file |
| 00:01.48 | somiaj | blas_: yea, the newest xserver on woody won't support the newer ati-cards, your options are to either find a backport for x4.3 witch will support your card or get the ati drivers, I don't use ati cards so I am not familar with the ati drivers. |
| 00:01.48 | nz | i ran mutt |
| 00:01.56 | mreynolds | dli: Burning it to a CD at the moment. |
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| 00:02.09 | pattieja | Manoj`: yes. there are lots of openca-* files in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 00:02.21 | azeem | nz: /usr/share/doc/mutt/examples |
| 00:02.25 | blas_ | oke |
| 00:02.34 | dli | mreynolds: can you use USB memory stick? |
| 00:02.42 | somiaj | !tell blas_ about backports |
| 00:02.44 | pattieja | Manoj`: yes, also lots of openca-*.conffiles files |
| 00:02.45 | Manoj` | pattieja: if there are any *.conffiles files, that explains the dpkg behaviour |
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| 00:02.51 | mreynolds | dli: Sure, if I had one. Although I'm not sure the netinst kernel supports it. |
| 00:02.55 | dli | blas_: does ATI provide linux drivers? |
| 00:02.59 | pattieja | Manoj`: how so? |
| 00:03.13 | somiaj | !tell blas_ about ati |
| 00:03.17 | pattieja | Manoj`: do I need to delete them? |
| 00:03.17 | Manoj` | so, dpkg knows this is not the first version. it knows there arfe conffiles. it also notes the human deleted the conffiles for some reason |
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| 00:03.27 | somiaj | dli: yes there is a linux driver for ati, I just don't know where..:) |
| 00:03.32 | dli | mreynolds: simpler solution, plugin an extra old NIC. :) |
| 00:03.35 | pattieja | Manoj`: so it won't put the new ones in place? :( |
| 00:03.40 | Manoj` | so, dpkg, being subserviuent to humans, homors the humans wishes and does not install the deleted conffile |
| 00:03.42 | dli | mreynolds: $5 solution |
| 00:03.46 | felis | dli: www.ati.com |
| 00:03.47 | pattieja | doh! |
| 00:03.50 | mreynolds | dli: Heh, yes, that's actually something I've pondered, but the IT people here will get suspicious ;) |
| 00:03.55 | felis | dli: or www.schneider-digital.de |
| 00:03.57 | rory_ | Check out /usr/share/doc/mutt and look at the examples in the "examples" folder |
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| 00:04.03 | Manoj` | pattieja: it is just dpkg being nice to the human and working within spec. |
| 00:04.03 | pattieja | Manoj`: so, destroy all files in /var/lib/dpkg/info? |
| 00:04.06 | azeem | pattieja: luckily, there's a command-line switch for this |
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| 00:04.14 | pattieja | azeem: oh |
| 00:04.22 | Manoj` | dpkg --purge openca |
| 00:04.22 | dpkg | Manoj`: wish i knew |
| 00:04.32 | pattieja | heh |
| 00:04.33 | Manoj` | stupid bot |
| 00:04.33 | dli | mreynolds: I always come up with stupid solutions. :( as far as they work |
| 00:04.37 | pattieja | Manoj`: thanks |
| 00:04.43 | pattieja | purging... |
| 00:04.55 | pattieja | oh. wrong purge |
| 00:04.59 | pattieja | sorry |
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| 00:05.17 | pattieja | just remembered seeing CSI last nightt |
| 00:05.26 | stew | woot! happy friday |
| 00:05.30 | humble992 | I need linux/wrappers.h to compile something. Where is it supposed to be for 2.4.22? |
| 00:05.32 | gravity | Manoj`: Ooooh... that looks like fun |
| 00:05.33 | pattieja | I didn't know they could show that kind of stuff on TV |
| 00:05.33 | Manoj` | i haven't seen it yet. don't tell me. |
| 00:05.40 | dli | felis: I'm using nvidia now. enough headache already. :( it crashes the whole systems when I enable the local-acpi |
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| 00:05.58 | pattieja | Manoj`: how much can tivo store? |
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| 00:06.02 | azeem | arrow.cpp:165: implicit declaration of function `int lround(...)' |
| 00:06.02 | azeem | make[3]: *** [arrow.o] Error 1 |
| 00:06.07 | pattieja | you gotta run out pretty quick, I would think |
| 00:06.10 | felis | dli: acpi is not good for you |
| 00:06.14 | azeem | this should not happen with libc-dev installed, should it? |
| 00:06.24 | mreynolds | dli: Naw, you have good solutions, if they work :) And I did just manage to steal an extra Nic.. .yay |
| 00:06.31 | dismal_ | ok, my debian machine cannot ping or access any website or machine in my LAN. I am using debian 3.0r1. I have a linksys router, and i have a intel eepro100 thank you in advance |
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| 00:06.37 | chimaera | do the devices of brub refer to ide-ports ot phyiscally connected harddiscs? e.g. if no primary slave is connected, would be hdc hd1 or hd2? |
| 00:06.48 | humble992 | I'm using libc6-dev 2.3.2.ds1-11. Is this a weird version? |
| 00:06.57 | Manoj` | pattieja: I have the 35 hour version |
| 00:07.03 | felis | azeem: if the file arrow.cpp does not include the appropriate headers, or define the appropriate functions, that still happens, yes |
| 00:07.05 | azeem | humble992: no |
| 00:07.09 | dli | felis: now, I'm using acpi, I figured it out, I can enable acpi, but not the local uniprocessor acpi in the processor section. |
| 00:07.10 | obake | dismal_: route? |
| 00:07.16 | Manoj` | pattieja: I see 120 hour tivo's in the store now |
| 00:07.16 | pattieja | wow. a whole day and almost a half of TV? |
| 00:07.16 | somiaj | dismal_: man interfaces then set up your /etc/network/interfaces correctly to get yourself an ip (also modprobe eepro100 to get the module for your nic) |
| 00:07.17 | obake | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.19 | azeem | felis: well, it includes <math.h> |
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| 00:07.21 | obake | have you config'ed the routes? |
| 00:07.26 | felis | dli: aren't you talking apic? |
| 00:07.31 | azeem | for reference, it builds fine on sid, but this error is from woody |
| 00:07.36 | dismal_ | i never had too before |
| 00:07.41 | pattieja | Manoj`: they must be using the new massively gargantuan harddrives (300MB now, I think) |
| 00:07.49 | pattieja | sorry, that should have been GB |
| 00:07.53 | dli | mreynolds: I have many old 3com NICs here. |
| 00:07.58 | dismal_ | default 192.168.1.1 iface eth1 |
| 00:08.01 | dismal_ | when i type route |
| 00:08.05 | mreynolds | dli: do you fedex to san francisco? :) |
| 00:08.10 | dli | felis: what's apic? |
| 00:08.19 | humble992 | you mean I have a sid libc6-dev installed? how do I downgrade? |
| 00:08.19 | dismal_ | please! this is urgent |
| 00:08.23 | felis | advanced programmable interrupt controller, i think |
| 00:08.25 | azeem | advanced programmable interrrupt controleer |
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| 00:08.42 | dismal_ | hello?? |
| 00:08.50 | azeem | dismal_: uhm, chill |
| 00:08.55 | felis | azeem: my math.h has no lround |
| 00:09.00 | obake | dismal_: |
| 00:09.03 | obake | and is that correct? |
| 00:09.18 | obake | is it an internal network? |
| 00:09.23 | pattieja | Manoj`: so how do I get it to no longer even know about these packages? They still show up in dpkg -l with a 'pn' in front |
| 00:09.33 | guk | What command is it to reconfigure X via dpkg-reconfigure |
| 00:09.34 | dismal_ | what do you mean is it a internel network |
| 00:09.34 | dli | mreynolds: it's so cheap, I will make them available to you through the net. |
| 00:09.40 | rms124 | ok, so how do i get rid of back orifice, netbuss, and trinoo_master? |
| 00:09.51 | mreynolds | dli: hehe, send me hardware through the net? I'd love that :) |
| 00:10.08 | rms124 | i guess i got rooted.. :( |
| 00:10.08 | azeem | felis: hmm |
| 00:10.08 | obake | rms124: lol |
| 00:10.11 | gravity | guk: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:10.27 | humble992 | dismal_: explain your network situation |
| 00:10.27 | guk | thanks |
| 00:10.29 | felis | azeem: grep lround /usr/include/math.h |
| 00:10.36 | dli | rmsl24: unplug :( |
| 00:10.37 | felis | azeem: i doubt it's there |
| 00:10.40 | rms124 | the frickin hilarious thing is i just followed the debian hardeneing howto |
| 00:10.47 | azeem | felis: do you run stable? |
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| 00:10.54 | felis | azeem: sid |
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| 00:11.03 | mjj29 | rms124: did you install portsentry by any chance? |
| 00:11.04 | g4lt | rms124 uhm netbus and back orifice are windows-only trojans |
| 00:11.09 | azeem | felis: well, man lround tells me to include math.h on sid |
| 00:11.15 | coralcut | mreynolds: yo. i installed java 1.4. |
| 00:11.18 | Zombozo | Hi :) |
| 00:11.25 | Zombozo | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:11.25 | mreynolds | coralcut: cool :) |
| 00:11.29 | dli | mreynolds: go to a local computer store, at most $10 each |
| 00:11.31 | coralcut | mreynolds: now i get "INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory?" however :P |
| 00:11.32 | rms124 | i have portsentry and i've been getting scanned by one guy in sweden a lot |
| 00:11.32 | rory_ | dismal: what does "ifconfig" tell you? |
| 00:11.35 | mjj29 | rms124: how did you detect those trojans ? |
| 00:11.37 | azeem | anybody running stable can tell me what 'man lround' advises to #include? |
| 00:11.38 | felis | azeem: umm, let me check a bit |
| 00:11.44 | mreynolds | dli: I would, cept this is a work box. And I managed to get a NIC out of them. |
| 00:11.52 | dismal_ | it says |
| 00:11.53 | rms124 | mjj29: i nmapped myself because ssh isn't working |
| 00:11.56 | mjj29 | rms124: because portsentry binds to all the trojan ports |
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| 00:11.58 | mreynolds | coralcut: woaw. That's weird. Where do you get that as an error? |
| 00:11.59 | azeem | felis: those GNU glibc people do all kinds of black magic with their header files |
| 00:12.01 | coralcut | mreynolds: do i have to do anything else than create a link to the .so-file within the mozilla plugins directory? i cant find any docs on it. |
| 00:12.05 | dismal_ | eth1 192.168.1.1.159 |
| 00:12.07 | rms124 | mjj29: achlieber! |
| 00:12.09 | dismal_ | eth0 192.168.1.101 |
| 00:12.12 | coralcut | mreynolds: right away when i start mozilla. it dies on startup. |
| 00:12.14 | mreynolds | coralcut: no, but make sure it's the right .so |
| 00:12.16 | dli | mreynolds: right, find an idle computer, shut it down, and take its NIC |
| 00:12.16 | dismal_ | lo 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:12.17 | g4lt | rms124 you may be rooted, but it ain't with netbus or back orifice. Dildog hasn't done any work on BO since 2001 and there wasn't one then |
| 00:12.18 | mjj29 | rms124: so that it can detect people connecting to them |
| 00:12.22 | azeem | felis: I'm sure lround is defined from math.h through a couple of other headers (on sid at least) |
| 00:12.23 | mreynolds | dli: hehe, that's what I did ;) |
| 00:12.23 | felis | azeem: aha, lround is defined in /usr/include/bits/mathcalls.h |
| 00:12.25 | blas_ | where can i get radeon8500 driver for XF4 woody? |
| 00:12.31 | rms124 | i can breathe safely again! |
| 00:12.31 | mreynolds | dli: some contractor is on vacation |
| 00:12.32 | coralcut | mreynolds: i am using /usr/local/j2sdk1.4.2_03/jre/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so |
| 00:12.33 | dismal_ | that is what ifconfig puts out |
| 00:12.36 | rory_ | what does "route" tell you? |
| 00:12.40 | mjj29 | rms124: I've had a few shocks myslef when portscanning machines with portsentry on them |
| 00:12.45 | pattieja | Manoj`: I got rid of them by manually deleting entries from the /var/lib/dpkg/status|available files |
| 00:12.45 | dismal_ | uh |
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| 00:12.47 | mreynolds | coralcut: hmmm, that should be it. At least, that's what mine is. |
| 00:12.48 | rms124 | blas_: www.ati.com |
| 00:12.50 | dismal_ | 192.168.1.0 |
| 00:12.54 | coralcut | mreynolds: hrm. ok. |
| 00:12.54 | dismal_ | 192.168.1.0 |
| 00:12.58 | mreynolds | coralcut: did you install that library from earlier? |
| 00:12.58 | pattieja | Manoj`: reinstalling... |
| 00:13.00 | dismal_ | iface eth1 |
| 00:13.02 | coralcut | mreynolds: maybe i need a newer mozilla. |
| 00:13.03 | coralcut | mreynolds: nope. |
| 00:13.03 | humble992 | dismal_: your eth1 ip has 5 digits. is that correct: |
| 00:13.10 | dismal_ | defualt 192.168.1.1 |
| 00:13.11 | Justin_ | !tell rms124 about open ports |
| 00:13.12 | mreynolds | coralcut: ALso, try running java -v and see if it runs normally |
| 00:13.13 | dismal_ | iface eth0 |
| 00:13.16 | dli | mreynolds: still remember the old days, when CD-ROM drivers were on CD-ROM |
| 00:13.17 | Len | Hi, I'm trying to expire passwords to force them to be changed using chage and when I ssh to the machine after I login, rather than prompt me to change my password, I am immediately disconnected. Anyone have any suggestions? I've been looking around and it seems to be an ssh related issue, possilbly pam related but I cant pinpoint the problem |
| 00:13.24 | mreynolds | coralcut: what version of mozilla are you running? |
| 00:13.29 | felis | azeem: are you running a c++ compiler (i.e. g++?) |
| 00:13.31 | pattieja | yeah!!! the files are there |
| 00:13.36 | pattieja | Manoj`: thanks |
| 00:13.36 | mreynolds | dli: heheh, silly cd-rom makers |
| 00:13.36 | coralcut | mreynolds: humm. does java etc. have to be in $PATH? |
| 00:13.43 | azeem | felis: yes, it's a c++ (qt3) program |
| 00:13.45 | coralcut | mreynolds: for mozilla's purposes that is. |
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| 00:13.56 | mreynolds | mreynolds: not for the plugin, no. The link DOES have to be an absolute link though if I remember correctly. |
| 00:13.57 | linoleum | hi people |
| 00:14.00 | felis | azeem: i saw that :) |
| 00:14.04 | dli | mreynolds: now, you got NIC drivers on the net |
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| 00:14.10 | rms124 | mjj29: thanks, now to start working on my sshd getting up and running :) |
| 00:14.12 | dismal_ | wow.. no one talks to me |
| 00:14.15 | dismal_ | damnit! |
| 00:14.18 | mreynolds | dli: Of course. Otherwise it'd be easy. |
| 00:14.20 | linoleum | how can I uninstall enemy territory ?? I can't find an uninstall script |
| 00:14.23 | rory_ | dismal what happens if you do "ping 127.0.0.1" |
| 00:14.40 | dismal_ | it stalls |
| 00:14.40 | azeem | felis: oh right. So what is your question hinting at? |
| 00:14.47 | Justin_ | linoleum: delete the directory it is in and the 1 file in /usr/local/bin ? |
| 00:14.49 | obake | linoleum: wrong channel? ;-P |
| 00:14.55 | dismal_ | it says PING 127.0.1 56 data bytes |
| 00:15.01 | dismal_ | then it just sits there |
| 00:15.02 | obake | quake3 have an uninstall script |
| 00:15.11 | obake | just delete the folders |
| 00:15.14 | rory_ | dismal: try /etc/init.d/networking restart; ping localhost |
| 00:15.15 | felis | azeem: whether or not you're using the proper compiler.. i'm just brainstorming here |
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| 00:15.20 | blas_ | rms124 only 9800 driver for linux there |
| 00:15.20 | azeem | felis: I've got build-essential installed, which includes g++ to my knowledge |
| 00:15.24 | blas_ | i cantfind 850 |
| 00:15.26 | azeem | felis: 'k |
| 00:15.27 | blas_ | 8500 |
| 00:15.29 | rms124 | blas_: firegl drivers :) |
| 00:15.37 | azeem | it really runs g++, I've just checked :) |
| 00:15.43 | felis | azeem: sounds good |
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| 00:15.52 | dismal_ | ok, still sits there trying to ping localhost |
| 00:15.53 | dismal_ | no go |
| 00:16.29 | linoleum | Justin_: yes you're right : there is the game in /usr/local/game/ and there is the link in /usr/local/bin ... but what about the link and xmp for the Gnome and KDE menu ??? where are they ? |
| 00:16.29 | dismal_ | :I |
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| 00:16.52 | felis | azeem: kinda hard to tell then |
| 00:17.00 | azeem | yeah :-/ |
| 00:17.16 | felis | azeem: try declaring a template for lround at the top of the file |
| 00:17.28 | Justin_ | linoleum: locate enemy-territory |
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| 00:18.09 | humble992 | dismal_:you could try adding localhost yourself: ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 |
| 00:18.16 | rms124 | Justin_: thanks for the heads up on the netstat/lsof, now back to the happy hunting grounds :) |
| 00:18.18 | azeem | felis: that makes it compile, let's see whether it will link :-/ |
| 00:18.36 | azeem | (well, until the next source file containing lround(), anyway) |
| 00:18.49 | felis | azeem: it will link if you link against the proper libraries :) |
| 00:18.55 | dli | felis: you are right, it's ACPI or APIC I thought they were the same thing. :( after all, English is not my Language |
| 00:19.08 | azeem | screw that, I'm gonna install autoconf |
| 00:19.15 | felis | dli: acronyms aren't really english-specific :) |
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| 00:19.48 | guk | How do I allow sound in a normal user ? |
| 00:19.58 | felis | guk: add the user to the group audio |
| 00:20.05 | dli | felis: we don't have acronyms in my language :) |
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| 00:20.22 | guk | thanks |
| 00:20.32 | felis | dli: anyways, I still say ACPI is bad for you. Don't use it, as it's not very compatible with anything yet. |
| 00:20.36 | azeem | damn, woody's only got autoconf2.13?? |
| 00:20.41 | eeyore- | hmm, is it my machine or is (today's update) sid's KDE a little screwed? |
| 00:20.44 | humble992 | guk: add your username at the end of audio:x:num: in the /etc/group file |
| 00:20.58 | felis | dli: for instance, 2.6.3 hangs om my lap top when I plug the charger in with ACPI enabled |
| 00:21.00 | mjj29 | humble992: adduser username audio is better |
| 00:21.08 | mjj29 | guk: adduser username audio |
| 00:21.11 | dli | felis: ACPI, so I should stick to APM, right? |
| 00:21.13 | felis | mjj29: they are equivalent |
| 00:21.19 | guk | thankas |
| 00:21.25 | Len | hmm, let me ask this, is anyone familiar with password aging? |
| 00:21.28 | mjj29 | felis: yeah, but so much nicer and safer than editing /etc/group by hand |
| 00:21.34 | dli | felis: 2.6.3 won't crash, but some features like battery status not available |
| 00:21.40 | mjj29 | its harder to completely fsck it up |
| 00:21.49 | azeem | checking for lround... no |
| 00:21.51 | felis | dli: anyways, that's what causing you problems, so disable it. |
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| 00:22.12 | felis | dli: and although your language doesn't have acronyms, you chould be able to spell, right?;) |
| 00:22.18 | dli | felis: next time, not a big deal, I'm always on AC adapter |
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| 00:22.22 | bizio | hi all |
| 00:22.23 | linoleum | Justin_: yep right :) tankx |
| 00:22.25 | felis | (it's getting late, pardon my behaviour) |
| 00:22.45 | felis | dli: well, at least you got your answer |
| 00:23.24 | dli | felis: yeah, but don't expect too much for my spelling. :( my language doesn't have letters. |
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| 00:23.24 | dismal_ | heoo9 |
| 00:23.28 | felis | dli: what language is that? |
| 00:23.34 | felis | chinese or something? |
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| 00:23.57 | dli | felis: right, I have been asking for an xterm for Chinese for long |
| 00:24.13 | felis | dli: ah, that makes it a bit harder :) |
| 00:24.19 | humble992 | i need wrapper.h, but it doesn't seem to be included in libc6-dev 2.3.2.ds1-11, according to debian package search |
| 00:24.23 | felis | dli: you guys are right-to-left too, aren't you? |
| 00:24.39 | humble992 | do I have to downgrade libc6? that scares me... |
| 00:24.41 | dli | felis: old days, we changed :)) |
| 00:24.57 | eeyore- | felis: top to bottom, too |
| 00:25.07 | dli | felis: top to bottom and right to left. :) |
| 00:25.07 | azeem | humble992: don't do this if you're sure the other package has it |
| 00:25.18 | azeem | humble992: besides, what version of Debian are you running? |
| 00:25.20 | felis | dli: cool.. I'm going to visit china this summer. |
| 00:25.25 | eeyore- | felis: top to bottom first, then right to left :-) |
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| 00:25.35 | felis | dli: it's a bit far from norway, so i'm looking forward to it |
| 00:25.38 | felis | eeyore-: nice :) |
| 00:25.45 | dli | eeyore-: sounds like you can read Chinese. |
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| 00:26.11 | dli | felis: where? Shanghai? or Guangzhou |
| 00:26.13 | eeyore- | dli: not really, but i can order a lot of chinese food :-) |
| 00:26.20 | felis | dli: beijing, first and foremost |
| 00:26.25 | humble992 | I'm running sarge, but I might have had my sources set to unstable for a while |
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| 00:26.37 | felis | dli: probably shanghai as well |
| 00:26.53 | dli | eeyore-: oh, I thought you could tell me a good terminal for Chinese. :( xterm is not |
| 00:26.57 | felis | dli: and of course, we're going on a 3-day trip to the wall :) |
| 00:27.04 | alongnick | hm. qmail or postfix? |
| 00:27.09 | felis | alongnick: postfix |
| 00:27.12 | dli | felis: just 3 days. :( not much time for fun. |
| 00:27.19 | Manoj` | ho hum. another day, another round of emails to _that_ thread on -project |
| 00:27.19 | humble992 | is libc6-dev 2.3.2.ds1-11 an experimental libc6 or something> |
| 00:27.23 | g4lt | felis why not just wait until Pink Floyd comes to your town? ;) |
| 00:27.24 | felis | dli: i know, but I'll get to see it, at least |
| 00:27.24 | alongnick | felis, a short advantage to qmail? :) |
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| 00:27.32 | felis | alongnick: www.postfix.org |
| 00:27.34 | eeyore- | dli: what do you want to do in *terminal* that you'd need chinese for? do you have a lot of command-line programs that's localized? |
| 00:27.39 | Manoj` | pink floyd is touring again? |
| 00:27.43 | felis | g4lt: they've been here :) |
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| 00:27.54 | dli | felis: why go to the wall? go to resturants, go to KTV (for pretty gals) |
| 00:27.54 | felis | Manoj`: nah, he's just being funny |
| 00:28.00 | gravity | Dead Rock Band On Tour! For the Last Time! Again! |
| 00:28.05 | g4lt | Manoj` just a bad pun on felis's talk about going to the wall ;) |
| 00:28.12 | azeem | humble992: well, packages.debian.org/libc6 wil tell you that |
| 00:28.20 | Manoj` | damn. I would too fork up the $100 to see them again |
| 00:28.20 | dli | eeyore-: telnet access to some chinese BBS |
| 00:28.23 | felis | dli: you tell me where to go, you ought to know :) |
| 00:28.23 | azeem | but I don't think it's experimental, sounds regular |
| 00:28.33 | Manoj` | well, not all of 'em are dead |
| 00:28.37 | alongnick | felis, so you got none :) |
| 00:28.40 | Manoj` | even the dead toured after garcia |
| 00:28.42 | gravity | Manoj`: Well, figuratively dead |
| 00:28.52 | felis | alongnick: it's simple |
| 00:28.55 | gravity | Their days of productive rocking are over |
| 00:29.02 | Manoj` | gravity: avast! get thee behind me, philistine!! |
| 00:29.05 | dli | felis: just in the city. :) go to Guangzhou in South. |
| 00:29.05 | gravity | hehe |
| 00:29.16 | humble992 | just checked, it is normal for testing |
| 00:29.18 | alongnick | felis, but also powerful enough to manage several domains and a lot of users with pop3/smtp access? |
| 00:29.20 | g4lt | gravity their days of productive rocking were over when Roger Waters left IMO;) |
| 00:29.20 | gravity | Manoj`: I was sorely disappointed with the Division Bell myself |
| 00:29.24 | felis | alongnick: of course |
| 00:29.25 | Manoj` | nothing much of worth, musically speaking, has been produce post '72 |
| 00:29.27 | gravity | g4lt: Agreed :-) |
| 00:29.33 | pattieja | Manoj`: thank you for your help. The files successfully got created and I was able to configure OpenCA properly. Now all I have to do is figure out the rest of the dependencies, since it seems it wants MIME::Parse, but I can't find it in a .deb package using apt-cache search MIME::Parse |
| 00:29.35 | gravity | Manoj`: Oh, now that's just blasphemy! |
| 00:29.39 | Manoj` | though that new chick with fleetwood mac shows promise |
| 00:29.42 | felis | dli: what is there to see in Guangzhou? |
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| 00:29.52 | dli | felis: gals are cheap there. :) you would definitely enjoy your stay |
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| 00:30.30 | felis | dli: hehe :) my girl's coming along, so I doubt I'll get the chance to explore those parts of China ;) |
| 00:30.30 | Manoj` | stevie something or the other |
| 00:30.31 | pattieja | seems I remember a list of 10 things to do an not to do. |
| 00:30.36 | gravity | Manoj`: Nicks? |
| 00:30.49 | dli | felis: and food in Guangzhou, Cantonese style. Too bad, because of SARS, they banned most wild animals in resturants. |
| 00:30.49 | eeyore- | dli: the xterm in (recent) X is supposed to handle combining characters much better than the alternatives (konsole). it also supports chinput (chinese input method) ... though some people use konsole. there are bugs for konsole, though ... it tends to leave little pixel droppings everywhere |
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| 00:31.18 | dli | felis: next time, then, find some excuse to travel alone, you know what I mean. |
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| 00:31.40 | humble992 | is it dangerous to force a reinstall of libc6-dev? |
| 00:31.47 | helix | pixel droppings. that sounds awful. |
| 00:31.48 | felis | alongnick: we're running postfix on a 30k-user system. I don't remember the number of domains it relays mail for, but it's quite large. |
| 00:31.49 | eeyore- | humble992: nope |
| 00:31.52 | peterS | humble992: not really |
| 00:31.53 | dli | eeyore-: my xterm displays Chinese in ASCII sets. :( upper case |
| 00:31.58 | g4lt | Manoj` if that's Stevie Nicks, she's been part of Fleetwood Mac forever. It was her and Mick Fleetwood being an item that broke them up after Rumors |
| 00:32.05 | felis | alongnick: www.ntnu.no :) |
| 00:32.06 | eeyore- | dli: X3 or something? |
| 00:32.07 | wyldstudy | hello... |
| 00:32.09 | alongnick | felis, one last question. are their good spam and anti-vir apps for postfix? i know qmail runs with spamassasin and several virus scanners |
| 00:32.10 | azeem | humble992: if you reinstall the same version as before, you're pretty safe |
| 00:32.32 | peterS | humble992: libc6 is critical to the functioning of your system. libc6-dev isn't |
| 00:32.34 | dli | eeyore-: Version: 4.3.0-XD2.2 |
| 00:32.34 | humble992 | maybe that will find my missing wrappers.h...I'll try it |
| 00:32.36 | felis | alongnick: postfix runs just as fine with spamassassin and for instance amavisd as qmail does |
| 00:32.44 | wyldhoney | Where's a good place for Debian newbies to ask their stupid questions? |
| 00:32.48 | felis | alongnick: you just pipe the e-mails |
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| 00:32.54 | alongnick | felis, great, i'll check it out\! |
| 00:33.00 | felis | wyldhoney: right here would be fine |
| 00:33.09 | g4lt | alongnick spamassassin actually runs as a MDA, so yes. look at clamav for virus |
| 00:33.29 | wyldhoney | I just want to know how I can add a PCMCIA driver to my base configuration, so I can download some more packages. |
| 00:33.38 | dli | alongnick: I'm using spamtrap, easy configuration |
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| 00:33.39 | azeem | humble992: packages.debian.org does not hint that wrappers.h should be in libc |
| 00:33.39 | g4lt | actually, it'd be as a maul UNdelivery agent ;) |
| 00:33.48 | azeem | humble992: there's only ocaml stuff showing up |
| 00:34.00 | eeyore- | dli: maybe you don't have the chinese fonts? |
| 00:34.02 | g4lt | well catch you all mondae ;) |
| 00:34.07 | alongnick | dli, g4lt first i'll set postfix up, after that spam-protection and virus-scanner, but thanks though! |
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| 00:34.15 | gravity | Mmm... ocaml... I need to try and play with that language again |
| 00:34.19 | dli | eeyore-: right now, my xchat shows Chinese menu |
| 00:34.25 | felis | g4lt-away: enjoy your weekend :) |
| 00:34.45 | humble992 | hmm. so where is wrappers.h? Isn't it a standard C thing? |
| 00:34.49 | dli | eeyore-: Konsole is really buggy, I got segmentation fault. :( |
| 00:35.01 | humble992 | it used to be in linux/wrappers.h |
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