| 00:00.00 | sirReal | mwilson: hmm... |
| 00:00.11 | sirReal | baloo: haha well said |
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| 00:00.26 | baloo | supaplex: Yes, and it's kind of monotonous. I miss tech support because I didn't have to read from a script for that. |
| 00:00.47 | cafuego_ | baloo: Most humanoids quantumtunnel between those states at various points during each day |
| 00:01.23 | baloo | cafuego_: Yes, I understand that. Hence the existence of memes, and their evil cousin, fads. |
| 00:01.35 | baloo | ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US. |
| 00:01.35 | cafuego_ | http://www.zapatopi.net/treeoctopus/sightings.html |
| 00:01.55 | cafuego_ | baloo: Zero Wing is out, the tree octopus is in :-) |
| 00:02.07 | sirReal | mwilson: well, it's been fun, as always, but i actually do have to jump in the shower. ta for now. |
| 00:02.12 | mentor | badgers |
| 00:02.23 | cafuego_ | mentor: badgets are SO february |
| 00:02.25 | RichiH | isn't zapatopi the site about afdbs? |
| 00:02.42 | zimnyx | i need to make *.deb package from sources. do i need only sources? |
| 00:02.56 | baloo | I bet with someone at work $5 that I could insert Zero Wing quotes into a call. He lost five bucks thinking I couldn't move zig among the best. |
| 00:02.58 | RichiH | http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html i knew it :) |
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| 00:03.09 | mentor | Don't people usually wash in showers? |
| 00:03.15 | typo | arggg, apt-get update to a sid source gives me a strange dynamic mmap error |
| 00:03.17 | cafuego_ | zimnyx: apt-get source, uild-dep; dpkg-buildapckage |
| 00:03.29 | baloo | mentor: Well, except at conventions, in which the pool is the more likely suspect. |
| 00:03.58 | mentor | cafuego_: Hey, for those of us that only get access to a flash player once every 6 weeks. |
| 00:04.05 | zimnyx | cafuego_: build-dep ? how ? |
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| 00:04.25 | zic | please, how can i disable i script that is being iniatializing in the boot time? |
| 00:04.26 | cafuego_ | mentor: you only hve access to a computer once every 6 weeks? |
| 00:04.50 | cafuego_ | zimnyx: man update-rc.d |
| 00:04.58 | cafuego_ | s/zimnyx/zic/ |
| 00:05.03 | zimnyx | cafuego_ : i know it |
| 00:05.06 | mentor | cafuego_: Flash player. I will never, ever, let a flash player touch my precious computers. |
| 00:05.07 | zic | cafuego: thx. ;) |
| 00:05.10 | cafuego_ | zimnyx: apt-get build-dep package |
| 00:05.28 | zimnyx | cafuego_: thanks |
| 00:05.30 | cafuego_ | mentor: Th java one works fine on all of mine |
| 00:05.42 | cafuego_ | zimnyx: fetches headere depends etc |
| 00:05.43 | mentor | cafuego_: Java?!? |
| 00:05.51 | cafuego_ | mentor: JAVA! |
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| 00:06.01 | cafuego_ | mentor: People really do use it |
| 00:06.24 | cafuego_ | If I'm not too broken on thursday I'll be using Java in a most interesting new way. |
| 00:06.42 | zimnyx | cafuego_: now i know:) |
| 00:06.45 | myren | do you want most of your desktop systems to have your server's ca cert and/or ca key? |
| 00:06.59 | mentor | cafuego_: I hear the same about Flash. |
| 00:07.10 | baloo | Any other AAO fans? |
| 00:07.31 | mentor | baloo: yes. |
| 00:07.39 | baloo | mentor: Who do you play as? |
| 00:07.43 | mentor | ~tell baloo about polls |
| 00:07.46 | mentor | ~tell baloo about anyone |
| 00:08.23 | cafuego_ | mentor: Yeah, apparently here are ses for it. |
| 00:08.27 | cafuego_ | uses |
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| 00:08.56 | baloo | mentor: Thank you. Only trying to find other Debian gamers... |
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| 00:09.56 | cafuego_ | hmmm... is it cheaper to be online from a hotel via global roaming or to call intrnationlly via hol phone... |
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| 00:10.31 | brunner | supermount is believed to be the best way to go as far as auto-mounting things like CD ROM drives, right? |
| 00:10.40 | Supaplex | cafuego, with a 2500KM network cable :-x |
| 00:10.46 | adamus | Someone know if webmin is the best solution for webadmin or if there is something else avalaible? |
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| 00:11.00 | typo | anyone know what "bash: Conflicts: bash-completion but it is not installable" means? |
| 00:11.07 | brunner | adamus: I haven't seen anything better. |
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| 00:11.24 | brunner | adamus: Freshmeat would most likely have it though, if anythint better exists |
| 00:11.24 | adamus | (brunner): ok good i'll use that then ;) |
| 00:11.33 | typo | it makes no sense what so ever to me |
| 00:11.36 | cafuego_ | adamus: Welll.. that depends on your general opinion on web admin intrfaces and the apps you're interfacing with. |
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| 00:12.06 | adamus | (cafuego): I was looking for a webinteraface to configure iptables firewall. |
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| 00:12.23 | adamus | (cafuego): I found out webmin supported shorewall wich configure iptables |
| 00:12.39 | adamus | (cafuego): so I guessed that may be the solution |
| 00:12.47 | typo | anyone? |
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| 00:12.56 | folyn | adamus: have you checked out firestarter? |
| 00:12.59 | zimnyx | cafuego_: after running dpkg-buildpackage i obtain such error: I have no package to build. when i used "make all" compilation worked ok.. |
| 00:13.07 | re_garcia | in the ls -l what does 1 mean in "d--xr--r-- 1 root" ? |
| 00:13.25 | cafuego_ | adamus: If you're just wanting a GUI for a firewall there's better solutions... though remote firewall adminin always makes me shudder... if you fuck it up you lose access. |
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| 00:13.48 | cafuego_ | zimnyx: dpkg-buildpackage -b didn't work? |
| 00:13.49 | folyn | firestarter is very good and in apt |
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| 00:14.02 | adamus | (folyn): its gui based or not? |
| 00:14.09 | folyn | adamus: yes, it is gtk2 |
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| 00:14.16 | _gass_ | folyn: synaptic |
| 00:14.22 | _gass_ | very, very good |
| 00:14.25 | cafuego_ | adamus: either way ipatbles really isn't very complicated. |
| 00:14.26 | adamus | (folyn): the computer its going to run on won't have a gui.ONly console |
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| 00:14.40 | folyn | adamus: ooh |
| 00:14.43 | adamus | (cafuego): well I'm lost at iptable :) |
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| 00:15.04 | folyn | adamus: you're installing a guiless box and don't want to edit the configs manually? |
| 00:15.05 | cafuego_ | adamus: 2 rules is all ou need to secure a box |
| 00:15.07 | zimnyx | cafuego_: there's no option -b for dpkg-buildpackage. maybe you mean -d ? |
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| 00:15.24 | adamus | (cafuego): the computer is going to act as a Nat router + serving in my house. |
| 00:15.25 | cafuego_ | zimnyx: there's a -b option on mine. |
| 00:15.40 | adamus | (folyn): yea about that ;) |
| 00:15.45 | cafuego_ | adamus: iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT |
| 00:15.47 | folyn | adamus: you could always export X |
| 00:15.58 | adamus | X? |
| 00:16.02 | quitte | some days ago i was browsing the internet and found a wm that looked like beos and was pretty small. anyone got an idea what it was? i cant find it again |
| 00:16.07 | myren | there's all these hex 9 character long hex values .0 in my /etc/ssl/certs/ directory.... c9bc75ba.0 for example. there's a good number of them there... how'd they get there, where did they come from.... what are they? |
| 00:16.12 | cafuego_ | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o <wan interface> -j MASQUERADE |
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| 00:16.15 | zimnyx | cafuego_: you are right |
| 00:16.17 | myren | why dont they have identifiers like the other certs in there? |
| 00:16.27 | cafuego_ | iptables -a INPUT -i <lan interface> -j ACCEPT |
| 00:16.28 | folyn | adamus: yes forward X11 via ssh and then use the gui gtk tools via your desktop x session |
| 00:16.30 | adamus | (cafuego): so if I ever mess up I just have to go plug a monitor |
| 00:16.34 | myren | they're not even .pem files like everything else |
| 00:16.35 | cafuego_ | iptables -P INPUT DROP |
| 00:16.48 | adamus | (folyn): I don'T have any other linux box |
| 00:16.55 | cafuego_ | adamus: ... that generall suffices. |
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| 00:17.28 | pmiller9 | is hotplug still broken? |
| 00:17.39 | adamus | (cafuego): how do I do port forwarding? |
| 00:17.42 | myren | random certs with hex value names scare the piss out of me. i dont like stuff i dont know on my system |
| 00:18.04 | cafuego_ | myren: they're apache-ssl demo certs afaik |
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| 00:19.42 | quitte | is www.atheos.cx only down for me? |
| 00:19.43 | zimnyx | cafuego_: http://zimnyx.no-ip.info/output |
| 00:19.58 | adamus | (cafuego): will it support UPnP or something that will let MSN pass thru? |
| 00:20.07 | nvz | if I have xscreensaver configured and running would xlock command lock my screen with xscreensaver? |
| 00:20.08 | myren | adamus: what of upnp? |
| 00:20.22 | cafuego_ | adamus: upnp is a scary pice of shit that you don't want. |
| 00:20.26 | cyklus | I just compiled a new kernel and having some trouble booting: im getting the following error: fsck.ext3: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hda3, dev/hda3: The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 file system. I the kernel is 2.6 and the old was 2.4, /dev/hda3 is ext3 and works fine with the old kernel.. any suggestions to what might be wrong here? |
| 00:20.32 | myren | cafuego_: hey, i resemble that piece of shit |
| 00:20.37 | adamus | (myren): MSN us random port to send files. If you don't use UPnP you can't send file with msn |
| 00:20.38 | argonel | is there another mirror selection program in addition to apt-spy and netselect-apt? |
| 00:20.45 | cafuego_ | adamus: msn and icq works fine through NAt though |
| 00:20.49 | myren | cafuego_: (am working on a project using it for home automation) |
| 00:20.56 | mentor | Why tf is MSN using uPNP? |
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| 00:21.02 | nvz | basically what I am asking, is if I pick a screensaver in xscreensaver-demo, what do I have to type to lock the display with that screensaver |
| 00:21.04 | cafuego_ | myren: it's still a pice of shit, though |
| 00:21.18 | adamus | (mentor): because msn us about a range of 2000 port random to receive files |
| 00:21.30 | myren | esp. since they finally wisened up and made it sotp listening globally |
| 00:21.30 | baloo | Just file transfer using jabber if you need to send a file via IM. |
| 00:21.31 | knoppix | extended partition /dev/hda3 |
| 00:21.45 | knoppix | not primari |
| 00:21.57 | cafuego_ | adamus: you can always install a SOCKS proxy on the gateway and use that. |
| 00:21.57 | adamus | (baloo): jabber? |
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| 00:22.06 | myren | cafuego_: its pointless and a security hole, in 99.9% of cases yes, but that doesnt make it inherently worthless of a piece of shit |
| 00:22.11 | zimnyx | how can i uninstall stuff installed using "make install" |
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| 00:22.25 | mentor | heh. My HP printer is quieter than the fans in my ethernet switch. |
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| 00:22.29 | myren | cafuego_: it makes some sense to have home automation occur on something higher level than soap. |
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| 00:22.47 | adamus | cafuego_ and pass msn with the socks proxy? |
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| 00:23.27 | cafuego_ | myren: My only experience with uPNP was when it made WiFi not work on WinME |
| 00:23.27 | mentor | adamus: Yes....but what has that got to do with UPnP? |
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| 00:23.48 | mentor | adamus: It's a network aware hardware/device detection layer isn't it? |
| 00:24.09 | adamus | (mentor): heerg no idea |
| 00:24.13 | myren | cafuego_: well, i'd say the bigger problem there is that you are using WinME |
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| 00:24.35 | myren | mentor: they're (MS) is using UPnP for all sorts of weird glue logic now... Universal Plug and Play |
| 00:24.40 | adamus | (mentor): well what it does it send to the router (currently) the port that need to be forwarded to a particular internal ip addres |
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| 00:24.59 | rclay | what is a good thing to run on a brand new ide drive to check it? |
| 00:25.04 | agiofws | hello when i invoke kde as user usually is very slow but i have had quite a few lock ups as when i rin kde as root it rin fine....is there a way i can reconfigure my user kde session? can someone help me? |
| 00:25.10 | myren | there's a internet gateway device spec to allow apps to open up ports though routers via UPnP |
| 00:25.14 | adamus | (mentor): since msn is soo well done that you can't choose what port will be used |
| 00:25.18 | idnarhtim | anything working on WinME is an extremely rare and extraordinary event |
| 00:25.42 | myren | no joke |
| 00:25.42 | cafuego_ | rclay: fsck, bonnie++ |
| 00:26.02 | adamus | (mentor): if you don't you UPnP you have 1: a semi working msn or 2: 1 working msn on one comp and all the other not working |
| 00:26.19 | cafuego_ | myren: It's not me using it, but a friend... on her work laptop, so there's not much I can do about that. |
| 00:26.31 | myren | i keep thinking i should do my roomate a favor and write some random bits onto very low levels of his hard drive in hopes that his "i'll install a real os when ME finally freaks completely" plan will actualize faster |
| 00:26.34 | mwilson | rclay: "Check" it for what? |
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| 00:26.45 | myren | then i think, who knows, odds are it might actually fix it |
| 00:26.55 | mentor | adamus: OK. Well...there is a UPnP firewall/NAT traversal FAQ on the 'net. |
| 00:26.59 | adamus | http://linux-igd.sourceforge.net/ |
| 00:27.03 | huey | how do you change the cursor in the console to a solid block instead of a blinking under-line? |
| 00:27.05 | myren | cafuego_: indeed. |
| 00:27.06 | adamus | just found that |
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| 00:27.23 | agiofws | hello when i invoke kde as user usually is very slow but i have had quite a few lock ups as when i rin kde as root it rin fine....is there a way i can reconfigure my user kde session? can someone help me? |
| 00:27.40 | rclay | mwilson: not sure. just got a new 200BG maxtor, was syncing data over and now xfs_check is giving a "fatal error - Input/output error" |
| 00:27.41 | cafuego_ | huey: via stty probably |
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| 00:27.47 | euth | anyone know of modules to do debian package management tasks in python or perl? |
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| 00:28.08 | euth | for example, if i want to query if a package is installed without doing a shell callout and some parsing |
| 00:28.24 | rclay | mwilson: its mounted as a usb drive. would like to rule out the possibility that the disk is bad |
| 00:28.27 | Justin_ | !+google for vga-softcursor.txt |
| 00:28.32 | dpkg | Google was unable to find any results for vga-softcursor.txt |
| 00:28.40 | idnarhtim | euth: python-apt? |
| 00:28.40 | Justin_ | dpkg: you lie! |
| 00:28.40 | dpkg | wish i knew, Justin_ |
| 00:28.42 | cafuego_ | euth: debian tools are all perl based afaik... the whole api should be there already. |
| 00:28.56 | mwilson | rclay: You wasted money on a Maxtor... what else do you need to know? |
| 00:28.58 | PinkBunny | where can I find java sdk for debian stable ? |
| 00:29.01 | azeem | cafuego_: that's quite a too broad statement |
| 00:29.03 | argonel | gotta love it when a program starts doing stuff when you called it with --help |
| 00:29.09 | _gass_ | qhat can it be: unable to handle kernel null pointer deference at virtual address 00000008 printing eip |
| 00:29.16 | _gass_ | i'm mount al usb modem |
| 00:29.30 | rclay | mwilson: what brand do you use? |
| 00:29.42 | cafuego_ | _gass_: that's called a kernel oops, probably a buggy driver. Time to reboot. |
| 00:29.43 | rclay | mwilson: i hear bad things about every brand |
| 00:29.59 | _gass_ | thx cafuego |
| 00:30.00 | cafuego_ | _gass_: ... it's as close to a BSOD as linux ever gets |
| 00:30.01 | cyklus | I just compiled a new kernel and having some trouble booting: im getting the following error: fsck.ext3: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hda3, dev/hda3: The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 file system. I the kernel is 2.6 and the old was 2.4, /dev/hda3 is ext3 and works fine with the old kernel.. any suggestions to what might be wrong here? |
| 00:30.20 | baloo | Though a properly configured email server can sanely handle big attachments. |
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| 00:30.41 | euth | python-apt is marked pre-alpha on sourceforge... where might i find the perl api? |
| 00:30.41 | cafuego_ | cyklus: you're missing the ext3 tools |
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| 00:30.43 | [Jedi] | hi all |
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| 00:31.19 | bztunk | omg i found about screen and ctrl-a c |
| 00:31.22 | _gass_ | cafuego: what seems to be the solution? |
| 00:31.35 | cafuego_ | _gass_: get a decent dsl modem |
| 00:31.41 | amphi | bztunk: heh |
| 00:31.44 | myren | someone is trying to brute tcpspy.... |
| 00:31.50 | sirReal | bztunk: screen rawks. you can detatch sessions and reattach later. C-a d, screen -r |
| 00:31.50 | _gass_ | cafuego_: lol ... |
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| 00:32.02 | myren | at least i assume thats the point of the constant connect/disconnecting |
| 00:32.03 | cafuego_ | _gass_: no, really. |
| 00:32.03 | [Jedi] | a question: if I install a minimal woody, command "apt-get dist-upgrade" upgrades only installed packages, or downloads and installs new packages too? |
| 00:32.06 | euth | no matches to apt or dpkg on search.cpan.org |
| 00:32.11 | myren | any suggestions? |
| 00:32.15 | rclay | cafuego: using xfs_check i do not see an options to check for bad blocks? |
| 00:32.15 | bztunk | sirReal: yeah I knew about that (at least!) :D |
| 00:32.19 | cafuego_ | euth: apt-cache search perl | less |
| 00:32.27 | _gass_ | cafuego_: i have a debian server with speedtouch, running for days and days, but this speedtouch package ... |
| 00:32.27 | mwilson | [Jedi]: It functions as per the documentation. |
| 00:32.27 | [Jedi] | upgrading to sid I mean |
| 00:32.30 | agiofws | who can reinstall the kde files in me home/user directory....my kde as user is quite sticky.....and locks up often can someone help me? |
| 00:32.35 | idnarhtim | euth: libapt-pkg-perl is the package name |
| 00:32.36 | cafuego_ | rclay: *shrug* xfs... |
| 00:32.47 | myren | !ddos 64.5.97.184 |
| 00:32.52 | idnarhtim | euth: have you even tried python-apt? |
| 00:33.05 | sirReal | haha myren |
| 00:33.27 | myren | if only. ;) |
| 00:33.34 | myren | best admin tool evar. |
| 00:33.36 | cyklus | cafuego_: in the kernel or .debs? |
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| 00:33.46 | cafuego_ | cyklus: debs |
| 00:34.03 | cyklus | cafuego: ahh.. package name? |
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| 00:34.11 | cafuego_ | cyklus: no idea |
| 00:34.15 | euth | idnarhtim : no, but the pre-alpha scared me... however, i notice that it's in stable so maybe i'll give it a shot |
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| 00:34.51 | twirl83 | how can I stop X from running ? |
| 00:35.03 | cyklus | cafuego: any idea how i could find out.. weird it would work with 2.4 but not 2.6? |
| 00:35.19 | cyklus | twirl83: ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 00:35.24 | nvz | twirl83: kill your display manager |
| 00:36.14 | rokstar | i'm the only one having problems reading .xsession-errors after the apt-get upgrade with kde 3.2.1 and XFree 4.3 ? |
| 00:36.24 | rokstar | (debian sid) |
| 00:36.26 | tam9 | anyone know of any command line organisers? |
| 00:36.33 | azeem | tam9: vi |
| 00:36.44 | jfa | azeem: ? |
| 00:36.52 | tam9 | azeem: i'm trying to get away from vi for my organiser :) |
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| 00:37.43 | azeem | jfa: hmm? |
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| 00:37.58 | Cuga | Hey, im trying to mount a windows share on my deb box, the windows box is on my lan and i have smb installed... does anybody know a good doc on doing this? |
| 00:38.14 | jfa | azeem: i only asked ... |
| 00:38.22 | sirReal | myren: here's a good one ($USER's terminal input gets redirected to yours) cat /dev/pts/`w|grep $USER|tail -n1|cut -d\/ -f3|cut -d: -f1` ;) |
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| 00:40.37 | cafuego_ | coraline: if you run debian you don't need it |
| 00:40.52 | cafuego_ | coraline: if you don't run debian you shouldn't be allowed to use it. |
| 00:40.54 | coraline | baloo: i wish i could :) |
| 00:41.01 | baloo | RPM based distros are a lot like MS Windows: They both belong in the past. |
| 00:41.03 | coraline | cafuego: i ran it for several years, when i was the isp. now i'm just a tech. |
| 00:41.20 | cafuego_ | coraline: surely you can burn a bootable install cd ;-) |
| 00:41.35 | coraline | surely i can wake up in the middle of the night to "help us, oh god we can't manage debian aauuguh it's broken" |
| 00:41.36 | gici | yo |
| 00:41.38 | coraline | not |
| 00:41.48 | coraline | gradual learning curve. my sanity is more important than debian. ;) |
| 00:42.08 | sirReal | no, it really isn't ;P |
| 00:42.15 | nvz | you are not sane if debian is too hard |
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| 00:42.24 | coraline | interestingly, i was here to ask about wnpp -- that is, is there a sort of FAQ about it? |
| 00:42.30 | coraline | debian is the best distro i've used so far. |
| 00:42.42 | coraline | it beats gentoo, *BSD, and all the other linux distros. |
| 00:42.49 | coraline | i wish i could convert this company :) |
| 00:42.59 | coraline | (soon, my precious.) |
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| 00:43.19 | sirReal | coraline: you're lucky you even get to use any flavor at work :\ |
| 00:43.22 | gici | with kernel 2.6.3 alsa and via82xx I get no software errors and volumes are all ups (also in alsamixergui) but arts llocks and I have no sound out of the box where in kernel 2.4 and oss all runned fine... about 4 hours googling and recompiling stuff before hitting here |
| 00:43.23 | cafuego_ | coraline: the thig is, debian doesn't generally break unless the admin does something so stupid that they reall shouldn't be admining anything. |
| 00:43.24 | bztunk | coraline: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ ? |
| 00:43.27 | coraline | indeed; i don't complain much. |
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| 00:43.55 | obake | gici: alsa 1.0.2c is fucked up |
| 00:44.01 | obake | specially the oss code |
| 00:44.13 | coraline | cafuego: nah, we just don't have staff right now to do a major changeover. it'll be this year, though. |
| 00:44.13 | obake | i get lots of mmap errors with 1.0.2c.. fixed in 1.0.3 |
| 00:44.51 | cafuego_ | coraline: pa, poor excuse, hire external consultants ;-) |
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| 00:44.56 | obake | gici: if you run sid you should really consider using the source from apt-get install alsa-source and disable the kernel built.in alsa. |
| 00:45.00 | rclay | this is going to seem like a stupid question, but - if i want to copy an entire filesystem over somewhere and use cp -a it will not copy files starting with a "." how do i get around this? |
| 00:45.01 | gici | obake: I shoul compile from source alsa 1.0.2c or it is in debian somewhere? |
| 00:45.10 | mwilson | gici: Ok, since 2.4 obviously worked well for you, what made you think you needed 2.6? |
| 00:45.23 | obake | oh my god my screen is splashing, or i'm to sleepy |
| 00:45.25 | obake | too |
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| 00:45.42 | obake | gici: do you run stable ? |
| 00:45.42 | rclay | s/cp -a/cp -a */ will not copy files beginning with a . |
| 00:45.46 | coraline | rclay: rsync -arp might be useful to you. |
| 00:45.56 | coraline | recursive, preserve |
| 00:46.04 | gici | unstable |
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| 00:46.09 | coraline | (that is, if you have access to it as a solution). |
| 00:46.14 | gici | I ll go on alsa-source |
| 00:46.15 | obake | gici: i've just said: apt-get install alsa-source |
| 00:46.19 | rclay | coraline: but going to a blank disk rsync is a major PITA becuase of its diffing algorithm |
| 00:46.20 | twirl83 | why I can't connect to msn from mkerlin ? |
| 00:46.26 | gici | obake: tnx |
| 00:46.32 | obake | nope |
| 00:46.37 | coraline | good to know. hm. |
| 00:46.57 | rclay | coraline: not only that, rsync often likes to crap out in the middle of large sync operations |
| 00:47.07 | cafuego_ | rclay: Copy directories from the root dir. |
| 00:47.14 | veleno | do i need this entry in /etc/profile :export CVS_RSH="ssh", to be able to commit something to my cvs account at sourceforge? |
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| 00:47.23 | coraline | fair enough, i never knew. |
| 00:47.25 | cafuego_ | rclay: cp -a /var /mnt/new/ |
| 00:47.39 | rclay | cafuego i tried cp -a /dir1/ /dir2/ but this creates /dir2/dir1 |
| 00:47.44 | PinkBunny | I am checking these iso images, how many of these are actually install cds in full meaning of that word ? :) |
| 00:47.44 | euth | hmm, neither libapt-pkg-perl or python-apt seem to be what i am looking for. i am more looking for modules modules that allow me to do stuff like remove a package without doing shell callouts... these modules seem to be lower level than that |
| 00:47.44 | coraline | does -W --size-only help with the empty disk thing? |
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| 00:48.28 | slinkyredfoot | i need to kill kde from a remote location via ssh....any ideas anyone? |
| 00:48.40 | sirReal | slinkyredfoot: running kdm? |
| 00:48.41 | rclay | cafuego: yeah i can't get it to not do /mnt/new/var/ |
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| 00:48.47 | rrichie | hi all |
| 00:48.53 | rrichie | while apt-get : |
| 00:48.53 | slinkyredfoot | gdm i believe |
| 00:48.57 | cafuego_ | rclay: That is exactly what it needs to do. If you want it to copy to the root, you omit the last dir param. |
| 00:48.59 | obake | slinkyredfoot: killall kde? |
| 00:49.02 | sirReal | slinkyredfoot: stop gdm then |
| 00:49.08 | rrichie | dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/Xft.h' with |
| 00:49.09 | rrichie | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.09 | rrichie | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libxft-dev_2.1.2-6_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 00:49.09 | dpkg | rrichie: You are moron #10 |
| 00:49.19 | rrichie | can anyone help me? |
| 00:49.26 | twirl83 | !kmerlin |
| 00:49.26 | dpkg | rumour has it, kmerlin is a chat client for the MSN network |
| 00:49.36 | bztunk | rrichie: /topic? |
| 00:49.39 | cafuego_ | !topicsmite rrichie |
| 00:49.40 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon rrichie. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
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| 00:49.43 | idnarhtim | !topicbadger rrichie |
| 00:49.43 | dpkg | /topic/topic/topic/topic/topic/topic*READ IT*READ IT*/topic/topic/topic/topic/topic/topic/topic*a shaaame it's a shaaame that rrichie didn't read the*/topic/topic/topic/topic... |
| 00:49.48 | typo | upgrading apt seams to have fixed the problem |
| 00:49.51 | bztunk | hahahaha |
| 00:49.54 | bztunk | topicbadger |
| 00:49.55 | rclay | cafuego: i've tried cp -a /dir1 /dir1/ cp -a /dir1/ /dir2 /dir1/ dir2/ all have the same problem |
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| 00:50.03 | rrichie | but what is the bts? |
| 00:50.10 | Luca__ | hello |
| 00:50.16 | idnarhtim | rrichie: /msg dpkg bts |
| 00:50.19 | cafuego_ | rclay: You wanna copy it to the new mountpoint right? |
| 00:50.19 | bztunk | !bts |
| 00:50.20 | dpkg | i heard bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs |
| 00:50.22 | jetscreamer | there is no bts |
| 00:50.24 | mwilson | Another cluebie that thinks he should be running unstable and can't be bothered to know what he's doing. |
| 00:50.26 | Luca__ | is there anyone with a trust spacecom 120 usb webcam? |
| 00:50.27 | mwilson | <sigh> |
| 00:50.36 | gici | another question there are hopes to see alsa 1.0.3 in vanilla kernels soon? |
| 00:50.42 | rclay | cafuego: copy everything under /dir1 to /dir2 |
| 00:51.06 | rclay | cafuego: basically mirror everything under /dir1 to /dir2 |
| 00:51.20 | idnarhtim | !sid |
| 00:51.21 | dpkg | well, sid is the unstable version of Debian. Don't use it unless you know what you're doing, as it can break horribly, and probably will sometime while you're using it. Ask me about sid faq |
| 00:51.33 | twirl83 | is there a way to connect to msn other than kmerlin ? |
| 00:51.44 | greycat | sure, windows. |
| 00:51.50 | cafuego_ | rclay: Making a submount or something? |
| 00:52.01 | idnarhtim | twirl83: bitlbee has MSN support, I believe |
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| 00:52.22 | idnarhtim | twirl83: GAIM may have support too, I don't know |
| 00:52.25 | kaplanfx | sid rarely breaks for me, the debian packagers are usually on top of their shit |
| 00:52.28 | twirl83 | thanks |
| 00:52.36 | idnarhtim | sid is just fine *if you know what you are doing* |
| 00:52.47 | idnarhtim | (it's still a million times better than Windows :P) |
| 00:52.49 | gici | obake: shall I purge completly "sound" from .config using external alsa-source or just the pci alsa submenu? |
| 00:52.50 | rclay | cafuego not sure what you mean, but just want to have dir1/foo, dir1/bar ... -> dir2/foo dir2/bar but some files are hidden and cp -a will ignore them |
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| 00:53.26 | idnarhtim | rclay: what's wrong with cp -a /dir1 /dir2 |
| 00:53.33 | greycat | idnarhtim: too simple. |
| 00:53.37 | rclay | idnarhtim: will not copy hidden files |
| 00:53.43 | greycat | idnarhtim: he's got to have a more complicated solution so that he feels l33ter |
| 00:53.47 | idnarhtim | rclay: "hidden files"? |
| 00:53.58 | obake | gici: hm |
| 00:54.01 | FieldySnuts | rsync, then. |
| 00:54.05 | greycat | idnarhtim: also, he's unwilling to test and therefore learn that he's wrong |
| 00:54.21 | jfa | greycat: i thik it will do :-mm |
| 00:54.23 | obake | gici: you should just leave the sound card support as *, but remove completely the alsa and oss part |
| 00:54.24 | rclay | idnarhtim: try it yourself. create 2 dirs one has some hidden files in it. try cp -a * into the second dir. |
| 00:54.35 | greycat | rclay: not * you twit. |
| 00:54.35 | obake | maybe you will have to recompile the kernel |
| 00:54.36 | idnarhtim | rclay: I don't know what "hidden files" are |
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| 00:54.43 | greycat | rclay: name THE DIRECTORY, not * |
| 00:54.44 | idnarhtim | rclay: do you mean dot files? |
| 00:54.46 | gici | obake: tnx |
| 00:54.47 | rclay | but even cp -a dir1 dir2 fails to copy them |
| 00:54.53 | greycat | rclay: bullshit |
| 00:54.56 | obake | gici: nope.. good luck |
| 00:54.59 | rclay | i just tested it |
| 00:55.06 | idnarhtim | rclay: it works fine for me |
| 00:55.12 | rclay | okay testing again.... |
| 00:55.13 | idnarhtim | rclay: join #flood |
| 00:55.30 | greycat | griffon:/tmp$ mkdir foobar |
| 00:55.31 | greycat | griffon:/tmp$ touch foobar/.blah |
| 00:55.31 | greycat | griffon:/tmp$ cp -a foobar barfoo |
| 00:55.34 | greycat | griffon:/tmp$ ls -a barfoo |
| 00:55.34 | greycat | ./ ../ .blah |
| 00:55.37 | obake | gici: after all that stuff, if you get unresolved symbols errors (when starting alsa), try update-modules && depmod -a |
| 00:55.49 | rclay | the other problem though is that every time i try cp -a /dir1/ /dir2/ i end up with /dir2/dir1/... which is not what i want |
| 00:55.54 | chris` | chris@kuso:~$ mkdir -p test1; touch test1/.foo; cp -a test1 test2; ls -a test2 |
| 00:55.54 | chris` | . .. .foo |
| 00:55.55 | greycat | baloo: fuck off |
| 00:55.58 | chris` | rclay: You lose |
| 00:55.58 | obake | i got this error some time ago and i *think* it's the way to fix it |
| 00:56.01 | euth | ( cd dir1 && tar cpf - . ) | ( cd dir2 && tar xpf - ) |
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| 00:56.13 | idnarhtim | rclay: so dir2 already exists? |
| 00:56.23 | chris` | and I find it amusing that I did it the same way greycat did |
| 00:56.37 | greycat | chris`: great minds... |
| 00:56.41 | rclay | idnarhtim: yes, because its a mount point |
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| 00:56.48 | chris` | Though I left -p by accident.... |
| 00:56.56 | greycat | chris`: you don't need -p |
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| 00:57.07 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.09 | chris` | greycat: already noted :) |
| 00:57.21 | idnarhtim | rclay: assuming you don't want to delete dir2, then do cp -a /dir1/* /dir1/.* /dir2 |
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| 00:57.30 | obake | testing |
| 00:57.31 | chris` | uh, the -p wasn't on cp it was on mkdir since I was going to nest originally |
| 00:57.40 | greycat | idnarhtim: or: cd dir1; cp -a . /dir2 |
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| 00:57.56 | obake | hm |
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| 00:58.06 | euth | dude, just use tar :-) |
| 00:58.07 | bghfhfg | Where can I get more fonts? |
| 00:58.13 | obake | fu---ng cable and it's power levels.. |
| 00:58.23 | journey | anyone know how to do a for statement on all the files in a directory (for i in *;do list;done) when some of the files have spaces in them? is there a way to make * expand to "file1" "file2" ... "filen" ? |
| 00:58.25 | idnarhtim | greycat: oh, that's an interesting one |
| 00:58.34 | journey | in bash |
| 00:58.43 | rclay | greycat: thanks that works! |
| 00:58.56 | idnarhtim | greycat: I expect :: cp -a dir1/. dir2 :: would work just as well |
| 00:59.24 | greycat | idnarhtim: if dir2 already exists it might make dir2/dir1/... -- not sure. |
| 00:59.36 | idnarhtim | greycat: just tested, it works the same as your version |
| 00:59.54 | idnarhtim | journey: use xargs |
| 00:59.56 | euth | journey: find . -type f -maxdepth 1 | sed 's/^(.*)$/somecommands "\1"/' | sh |
| 01:00.04 | euth | xargs fails on spaces |
| 01:00.08 | euth | don't use xargs |
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| 01:00.23 | idnarhtim | euth: that's what find -print0 and xargs -0 are for |
| 01:00.27 | ahi | k ive installed kde but i dont know how to run it :s |
| 01:00.29 | greycat | euth: xargs -0 |
| 01:00.34 | idnarhtim | euth: using sed is evil |
| 01:00.34 | euth | contruct a list of files, process it into commands with sed, pipe commands to a shell |
| 01:00.39 | idnarhtim | journey: rather do: |
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| 01:00.55 | idnarhtim | journey: find . -type f -maxdepth 1 -print0 | xargs -0 your_command |
| 01:00.55 | euth | idnarhtim : is not! sed also prevents you from overflowing your command buffer |
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| 01:01.03 | idnarhtim | euth: which xargs also does |
| 01:01.19 | euth | well, i've been bitten by it before |
| 01:01.24 | idnarhtim | euth: and far more efficiently than your version if your command can accept multiple files at the same time |
| 01:01.34 | euth | i guarantee my solution is more cross platform and more efficient |
| 01:01.37 | journey | ok, those are all good suggestions, i'll try a few, thanks :) |
| 01:01.39 | bghfhfg | Where do I get lots of fonts like Micr____t Win___s? |
| 01:01.39 | idnarhtim | journey: man xargs for more information |
| 01:01.47 | idnarhtim | euth: now you're just talking crap :P |
| 01:02.24 | ahi | it installs without any problem but it doesnt runs... |
| 01:02.24 | Justin_ | bghfhfg: wtf is a Micr____t Win___s |
| 01:02.46 | amphi | bghfhfg: install msttcorefonts perhaps |
| 01:02.47 | bztunk | Justin_: haha |
| 01:02.49 | greycat | journey: rename(1) |
| 01:02.57 | idnarhtim | euth: see what you've done, you've just taught him a very obnoxious habit |
| 01:03.29 | euth | it's not obnoxious, it's much more flexible |
| 01:03.31 | Nitrocld | Anyone know what node would make TI Silverlink work in TiLP |
| 01:03.34 | idnarhtim | euth: in what way? |
| 01:03.38 | greycat | Justin_: no matches for the first half in /usr/share/dict/words, but win...s matches lots of things, such as "winnows" and "winters" |
| 01:03.50 | zimnyx | how can i uninstall stuff installed using "make install" |
| 01:03.55 | greycat | zimnyx: rm |
| 01:03.56 | euth | you can construct more flexible commands |
| 01:04.04 | idnarhtim | euth: such as? |
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| 01:04.07 | ahi | any ideas on why it isnt running |
| 01:04.26 | Justin_ | greycat: i was going to tell him to install m_t_co__f___s |
| 01:04.27 | jfa | zimnyx: make unistall ? |
| 01:04.29 | greycat | ahi: don't spread your question out over 10 minutes. Put it all in one line. |
| 01:04.35 | idnarhtim | Justin_: hahaha |
| 01:04.42 | euth | use xargs to rename all .c files to .c.backup |
| 01:04.54 | euth | simple with some regex magic and sed |
| 01:04.54 | greycat | euth: rename 's/$/.backup/' *.c |
| 01:05.01 | bghfhfg | Justin_: Surely you've heard of it. You know, the "other OS", the one with the monopoly. |
| 01:05.04 | idnarhtim | euth: what greycat said |
| 01:05.07 | euth | greycat: rename is not standard |
| 01:05.09 | idnarhtim | euth: but if you want xargs, then: |
| 01:05.11 | greycat | euth: it is in debian. |
| 01:05.17 | Justin_ | bghfhfg: os X ? |
| 01:05.31 | greycat | Justin_: he must mean SCO Xenix |
| 01:05.35 | Nitrocld | How do I find out the Minor and Major to make a node to a certain device? |
| 01:05.36 | idnarhtim | euth: find . -name *.c -type f -maxdepth 1 -print0 | xargs -0 -i mv {} {}.backup |
| 01:05.40 | euth | i like habits which allow me to happily use many operating systems |
| 01:05.48 | euth | it's called portability |
| 01:05.52 | idnarhtim | euth: which is just as cross-platform as sed |
| 01:06.03 | idnarhtim | oh |
| 01:06.07 | greycat | euth: for i in *.c; do mv "$i" "$i".backup; done |
| 01:06.09 | idnarhtim | make that xargs -0 -i -n 1 |
| 01:06.17 | greycat | idnarhtim: I'm sure -i implies -n 1 |
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| 01:06.27 | idnarhtim | greycat: yes, you're right |
| 01:06.36 | sgeigerbot | ~+udev |
| 01:06.55 | idnarhtim | what does the + do in a query to the bots? |
| 01:07.00 | sgeigerbot | ~+udev |
| 01:07.01 | greycat | idnarhtim: these days, nothing |
| 01:07.08 | euth | idnarhtim : granted, that's not bad... but i think in sed. and while it may not be "better" it's certainly not obnoxious |
| 01:07.11 | greycat | apt, literal udev |
| 01:07.12 | | greycat: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 01:07.12 | PaPyRene1 | Why Can I not ping the WinNT computernames? (With webmin: after creating a PPTP VPN tunnel from my home linuxbox to the WinNT server via the firewall at my work I set up samba and can browse now with lineighborhood the C an D WinNT drives.) |
| 01:07.17 | lupocondriaco | hi all, there is a nice way to use sid kernel-images from the 2.6.x series with alsa-source packages? |
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| 01:07.27 | PinkBunny | anyone tried installing directly from sid isos,or its recommended that you use sarge (if you find woody too old) ? |
| 01:07.30 | sgeigerbot | greycat: sorry..the channel was moving like mollasses... |
| 01:07.42 | bghfhfg | Justin: No, the one made by the company with all the lawyers and illegal marketing practices and money. The OS that is famous for the Blue Screen of Death. |
| 01:07.42 | sgeigerbot | moll...? sorry about the spelling |
| 01:07.58 | greycat | bghfhfg: OH!! ... AIX. |
| 01:08.00 | idnarhtim | euth: it just seems really overboard to use sed and pipe to the shell and stuff, when the standard way is using find and xargs, and is simpler |
| 01:08.09 | euth | but really, with sed you get full regexes |
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| 01:08.21 | euth | "standard" ? |
| 01:08.31 | idnarhtim | euth: that's what xargs was designed for |
| 01:08.33 | euth | doing sed pipes is pretty standard in these parts :-) |
| 01:08.38 | greycat | the nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them from which to choose |
| 01:08.46 | idnarhtim | euth: if full regexes are so nice, why not use awk as your shell? |
| 01:08.47 | sgeigerbot | ~gamplayer is a good replacement for mplayer. Just ask Penix. |
| 01:08.48 | | okay, sgeigerbot |
| 01:08.52 | euth | greycat : exactly :-) |
| 01:09.10 | bghfhfg | The OS that will only run on x86 hardware. The OS with a web/file browser locked in but without a decent word processor at all. The OS famous for the crummy security, with over 40K viruses to date. |
| 01:09.22 | euth | cause i don't want regexes for every commands... only the complicated ones... and i often contruct awk pipes also :-) |
| 01:09.28 | greycat | bghfhfg: DOS? |
| 01:09.29 | idnarhtim | euth: you could pipe the find output through sed before using xargs, if you wanted |
| 01:09.29 | lupocondriaco | nice means "without recompiling" kernels? |
| 01:09.30 | gb | if your standar don't comply with my standard then it aint standard |
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| 01:09.42 | idnarhtim | euth: ah well, each to his own |
| 01:09.51 | euth | idnarhtim : indeed |
| 01:09.57 | karsten | In vim, how do you switch the position of buffers? |
| 01:09.58 | mentor | lupocondriaco: Isn't ALSA integrated in 2.6? |
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| 01:10.13 | bghfhfg | The OS that has an integrated GUI and a really crummy command line. |
| 01:10.14 | idnarhtim | incidentally, I never knew about rename |
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| 01:10.25 | greycat | idnarhtim: to the FAQ with thee! |
| 01:10.28 | greycat | !faq |
| 01:10.29 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ (still incomplete... original FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq/) |
| 01:10.31 | gb | mentor: not if you compile it without alsa |
| 01:10.41 | idnarhtim | I know about the FAQ, I've just never read it ;) |
| 01:10.54 | mentor | gb: I meant into the source tree |
| 01:10.58 | idnarhtim | on the other hand, I can't recall every doing anything where I needed the functionality of rename |
| 01:11.08 | greycat | idnarhtim: I use it all the time |
| 01:11.11 | idnarhtim | (as unbeliveable as that may seem) |
| 01:11.16 | Justin_ | rename is a ~50 line perl script |
| 01:11.21 | gb | mentor: Why ask a question you know the answer too? |
| 01:11.23 | sgeigerbot | karsten: Buffer | ...and then you can choose which you want ? |
| 01:11.30 | greycat | Justin_: which is why it's so cool. I use it on HP-UX too :) |
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| 01:11.39 | bghfhfg | Everyone knows what OS I mean. It is the OS that is preloaded on over 80% of PCs. |
| 01:11.42 | mentor | gb: It was more rhetorical.... |
| 01:11.46 | idnarhtim | the only time I rename bunches of files at a time is when organizing my music collection, and rename wouldn't help me there anyhow |
| 01:11.48 | karsten | sgeigerbot: Cool. ~Wr rotates as well. |
| 01:12.04 | mentor | bghfhfg: Award BIOS? |
| 01:12.25 | idnarhtim | bghfhfg: this could go on for a while |
| 01:12.25 | gb | mentor: hehe |
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| 01:12.29 | greycat | idnarhtim: on our HP-UX boxes at work I have to rename whole dirs full of files from v9999999999 to v9999999999.mpg before burning them to CD-R, so that bghfhfg's favorite OS can handle them |
| 01:12.37 | lupocondriaco | mentor: but alsa-source package is more updated than alsa in kernel 2.6.4 |
| 01:12.39 | greycat | idnarhtim: rename 's/$/.mpg/' * |
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| 01:12.57 | idnarhtim | greycat: I see |
| 01:13.06 | Justin_ | greycat: just burn mplayer.exe and a .bat file containing mplayer * :-) |
| 01:13.08 | snoke | how i extract path in bash scrip, like /bin/foo to get /bin and /usr/bin/foo get /usr/bin ? |
| 01:13.27 | greycat | snoke: dirname |
| 01:13.33 | idnarhtim | greycat: I've only ever done anything like that under windows (where I do "move * *.mpg") |
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| 01:13.49 | bghfhfg | Aha! It's the OS idnarhtim just mentioned. |
| 01:13.59 | snoke | greycat: ahh |
| 01:14.03 | idnarhtim | ...oops |
| 01:14.36 | mentor | lupocondriaco: Oh OK. |
| 01:14.45 | karsten | sgeigerbot: You wouldn't happen to know how to open a bunch of files in hidden buffers, would you? |
| 01:16.05 | tudor | how can I make wall display a message if no console is opened? |
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| 01:17.35 | karsten | tudor: Console or X? |
| 01:17.46 | tudor | X with gnome |
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| 01:18.19 | karsten | tudor: You'd want some sort of 'x wall' utility, I guess. I'm not familiar with anything like this. |
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| 01:18.43 | safrican | hi! i just installed my Debian System and I am wondering why all the packages are outdated? KDE 2.2 GNome 1.4 and many of them are like that... |
| 01:19.00 | azeem | safrican: it's stable though |
| 01:19.13 | mentor | "Sorry, your browser is not Win32 compatible" - Someone has their APIs mixed up. |
| 01:19.21 | azeem | safrican: A new version of Debian is expected in a couple of monthts |
| 01:19.26 | safrican | azeem: so stable releases are outdated? |
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| 01:19.32 | karsten | ~tell safrican about releases |
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| 01:19.45 | azeem | safrican: well, it might happen. Debian does not get released very often |
| 01:19.51 | protoloco | Hey, im using cfdisk, but i dont know of wich of the partitions of linux iu have to put the flag to Boot, ?? the partition of win is set the flag on... what to do ? |
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| 01:20.09 | azeem | protoloco: don't worry about that, just leave it as is |
| 01:20.21 | protoloco | azeem, okas :D |
| 01:20.24 | tudor | karsten, well then what's a good method of displaying a message on an X screen? (with no console opened) |