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| 00:01.50 | CrippsFX | hey...asg? |
| 00:02.11 | CrippsFX | ack...wait....nvm. |
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| 00:02.48 | CrippsFX | false |
| 00:02.50 | mandrake | Is there a circular dependency error in woody between sysvinit and initscripts currently? |
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| 00:03.01 | vkd | hey guys, this is strange, when a page has plugins (like flash or mplayer) they get a 1 pixel black border on the left side and on top. Anyone know why that is? |
| 00:03.06 | qazix | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=100823&cid=8593277 "The wheel has turned full cicle from when years back OpenGroup/X.org tried to change the license and XFree basically told them to go away to today where X.org is doing the same thing the other way around and keeping it free." rofl. |
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| 00:03.19 | TheAsp | Hmmm... bind9 wont start with 2.6.4 |
| 00:03.24 | TheAsp | weird. |
| 00:04.18 | sharth | mandrake: i don't see how sysvinit depends on initscripts. |
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| 00:04.40 | sharth | mandrake: and the package initscripts doesn't exist in woody |
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| 00:05.29 | mandrake | sharth - well, in the middle of running an upgrade on a new system I get stuck in that particular loop |
| 00:05.39 | mandrake | this is the first time it's happened to me |
| 00:05.42 | grumbel | any exim expert around? trying to send mail via smarthost, but it fails with "SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<>\n SMTP<< 550 5.1.7 {mp017} This server does not accept mailer daemons" |
| 00:05.53 | sharth | mandrake: upgrade what to what? |
| 00:06.03 | mandrake | stable -> unstable |
| 00:06.03 | sharth | mandrake: woody + woody security updates? |
| 00:06.14 | sharth | mandrake: apt-get install initscripts sysvinit |
| 00:06.17 | sharth | mandrake: try that. |
| 00:06.26 | mandrake | sharth - gets an amusing error |
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| 00:06.36 | pattern | some of my debs require and MTA to be installed, and right now i have nullmailer installed as my MTA... but now i want to install qmail by hand, not from a deb, and so i want to get rid of nullmailer, but aptitude won't let me, since there are dependancies on it as my MTA... can i create a dummy MTA package and install that? |
| 00:06.38 | mandrake | E: Internal Error, couldn't configure a pre-depend |
| 00:06.53 | sharth | try apt-get -f install |
| 00:07.07 | mandrake | does the same thing |
| 00:07.20 | mandrake | already tried both of those btw ;) |
| 00:07.21 | iwilcox | pattern: I always dpkg --purge --force-depends in that situation |
| 00:07.26 | sparr | so begins yet another kernel recompile, this time with a config made from scratch |
| 00:07.59 | pattern | iwilcox, thanks, i'll try that |
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| 00:08.40 | xinming | !dpkg man |
| 00:08.41 | dpkg | methinks man is a little guy that knows everything about linux... just do man <commandname> and he will teach you all about <commandname>, or http://man.mirrorlynx.com to get online manpages, or mannotincluded.com, or a Municipal Area Network (city) |
| 00:08.56 | xinming | !dpkg info reader |
| 00:09.01 | sharth | mandrake: probably just download from ftp.debian.org the initscripts and sysvinit stuff and use dpkg --force-depends -i package.deb on them and then run apt-get -f install |
| 00:09.05 | iwilcox | pattern: Nullmailer is broken AFAICS. Had to hack it to get it anything resembling working. |
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| 00:09.36 | sativas | mandrake, apt-get remove initscripts ? :). or apt-get moo :)) |
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| 00:09.48 | iwilcox | pattern: Plus it thinks it's qmail, but isn't, which is just annoying. |
| 00:09.48 | pattern | iwilcox, hmm... that's not good.. do you know of any other nullmailer-like apps that will work without hacking? |
| 00:09.53 | xinming | Anyone here would tell me how to change the default info browser? |
| 00:10.20 | max__ | where is the best place to ask about ALSA related stuff? |
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| 00:10.24 | CrippsFX_ | asg: thanks for your help...i got it to start up in command line..ahh..sweet, sweet command line. |
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| 00:10.26 | iwilcox | pattern: TBH, every time I've been in that situation, Ive ended up installing qmail anyway in the end. |
| 00:10.41 | quant | set JAVA_HOME=/etc/j2sdk1.5.0 <--- can someone tell me why that doesn't set the var? it's typed at the prompt |
| 00:10.58 | TheAsp | quant: you sure it doesnt? |
| 00:11.09 | TheAsp | quant: possibly you want to export it? |
| 00:11.12 | iwilcox | pattern: qmail just works. I tried 3 debian packaged nullmailer/clones and none really did the job. |
| 00:11.12 | quant | i type echo $JAVA_HOME |
| 00:11.16 | TheAsp | quant: what shell? |
| 00:11.18 | quant | it prints a blank line |
| 00:11.20 | quant | bash |
| 00:11.22 | CrippsFX | next question....does anybody know how I can set up my windows partitions so that I can access them from a normal user account? |
| 00:11.26 | TheAsp | export JAVA_HOME=<dir> |
| 00:11.33 | quant | thanks, one sec |
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| 00:11.45 | TheAsp | quant: now a real question is why is that in /etc... |
| 00:11.46 | TheAsp | :) |
| 00:11.48 | pattern | iwilcox, well, i need to find something lean that i can install on my cluster nodes, not bloated qmail just so they can forward their mail to a smarthost |
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| 00:11.58 | mandrake | sharth - yeah, that's what I just did. thanks. |
| 00:12.06 | max__ | anyone have experience setting up ALSA sound with NFORCE2 on 2.6.x ? please msg me |
| 00:12.10 | quant | TheAsp: thanks a lot :) |
| 00:12.26 | quant | TheAsp: should it be in /usr/local/src? |
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| 00:12.37 | TheAsp | quant: /opt or /usr/local/ |
| 00:12.43 | xinming | anyone here would help me? I thought there will be a package which can be configured |
| 00:12.57 | xinming | max__: Just use i810x sound modules. |
| 00:13.03 | xinming | max__: And that would work |
| 00:13.07 | quant | TheAsp: how am i supposed to know where to put a program? (that is not an offensive question btw) |
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| 00:13.17 | xinming | max__: I use 2.6.4 |
| 00:13.17 | max__ | xinming: i did. i get some sound with root but not as any user |
| 00:13.23 | TheAsp | quant: the install.sh for java should recomend it |
| 00:13.35 | max__ | xinming: and no sound from spdif at all |
| 00:13.37 | TheAsp | quant: im pretty sure it asks, and defaults to /usr/local |
| 00:13.42 | CrippsFX | max__: adduser <user> audio |
| 00:13.49 | xinming | max__: do this. adduser <user> audio. |
| 00:13.55 | max__ | brb |
| 00:13.57 | xinming | CrippsFX: Oops |
| 00:14.12 | CrippsFX | xinming: just a second too slow :P |
| 00:14.13 | TheAsp | quant: and the bins all come expecting to look in /usr/local/j2* |
| 00:14.17 | xinming | max__: And logout first. |
| 00:14.17 | quant | TheAsp: oh right.. but generally, how do you know where to put certain things on the file system... |
| 00:14.30 | CrippsFX | xinming: ya got me beat there though ;) |
| 00:14.34 | max__ | ok.. restarting X.. brb |
| 00:14.41 | quant | TheAsp: i see... well then i want to put it into the right place |
| 00:14.42 | d666 | I want to install Sid . How I proceed ? |
| 00:14.45 | TheAsp | quant: experience? following the links file system structre? generally rtfming? |
| 00:14.52 | TheAsp | err |
| 00:14.56 | TheAsp | s/links/linux/ |
| 00:14.57 | TheAsp | heh |
| 00:15.00 | xinming | CrippsFX: I ever encountered this problem. :-( |
| 00:15.04 | quant | TheAsp: yeah i guess |
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| 00:15.32 | xinming | CrippsFX: Could you plz tell me how to change the default info browser plz? |
| 00:15.35 | CrippsFX | xinming: sound is something I'm particular about...have I ever had the problem before :P |
| 00:15.58 | CrippsFX | xinming: default what into browser? |
| 00:16.15 | max__ | this is output from XMMS using alsa plugin |
| 00:16.16 | max__ | ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:867:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave |
| 00:16.16 | max__ | ** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Failed to open pcm device (default): Permission denied |
| 00:16.16 | xinming | CrippsFX: I wanna use Emacs to open the info browser. |
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| 00:16.47 | CrippsFX | xinming: ahh..whoops i misread....i wish I could help you.... |
| 00:16.50 | xinming | max__: That's because you don't have the permission to rw the device file. |
| 00:17.02 | max__ | xinming: is it /dev/pcm ? |
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| 00:17.21 | xinming | CrippsFX: I mean while I typed info xxx,And how do I change the default browser? |
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| 00:17.42 | xinming | max__: No,If you add user to audio group.then that'll be done automatically |
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| 00:18.06 | xinming | max__: No need to change it yourself |
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| 00:18.25 | max__ | xinming: ok.. so what do you think the issue is? |
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| 00:18.38 | narker | what line should I add to .xinitrc to start KDE? Gnome isn't starting for some unknown reason |
| 00:18.57 | xinming | max__: What modules did you configured in your kernel? |
| 00:19.01 | CrippsFX | xinming: yeah....i have no experience with that....sorry |
| 00:19.24 | xinming | CrippsFX: Ok,Thanks anyway. ;-) |
| 00:19.29 | CrippsFX | :) |
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| 00:19.46 | max__ | xinming: the alsa and nforce related drivers. |
| 00:19.47 | xinming | CrippsFX: Do you use 2.6.x kernel? |
| 00:19.59 | max__ | xinming: such as snd_intel8x0 |
| 00:20.00 | sparr | i refuse to be beaten |
| 00:20.06 | sparr | i will NOT go back to windows just for audio support |
| 00:20.06 | xinming | max__: umm... well.did you install aumix? |
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| 00:20.36 | CrippsFX | xinming: as far as know..i forget the command to check |
| 00:20.41 | max__ | xinming: i installed the alsa-base packages |
| 00:20.50 | xinming | If you installed aumix.And then try to open mp3 file in console.Not in X |
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| 00:21.14 | narker | sparr : come on... music > linux |
| 00:21.28 | floppyears | does anyone of know if kapager is still under development or is it dead now? |
| 00:21.31 | xinming | max__: I mean use mpg123 to open it. |
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| 00:21.44 | sparr | narker: maybe... ill be trying another distro soon |
| 00:22.05 | max__ | xinming: from outside of X? I told kde not to load the sound system |
| 00:22.37 | xinming | CrippsFX: Well. thanks. :-) There will be a prompt if I install the "New" debian.But I got lazy now. ;-) |
| 00:22.50 | CrippsFX | narker: lol...its so true :P |
| 00:22.57 | xinming | max__: out of X,don't use startx or such kind of thins |
| 00:23.05 | CrippsFX | xinming: good ol 3.1 :D |
| 00:23.05 | max__ | xinming: ok, brb |
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| 00:23.23 | CrippsFX | xinming: now maybe you can help me out here... |
| 00:23.51 | idnarhtim | Xlib: extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0". -- anyone know anything about "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD"? |
| 00:24.34 | xinming | CrippsFX: What can I help you about plz? :-) |
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| 00:24.56 | narker | CrippsFX : of course... I could live withouth linux... but it would be hard living without music that you love |
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| 00:25.22 | narker | what line should I add to .xinitrc to start KDE? Gnome isn't starting for some unknown reason |
| 00:25.23 | max_ | xinming: aumix says "aumix: error opening mixer" and mpg123 says "unable to open sound device" |
| 00:25.27 | CrippsFX | xinming: i have 2 ntfs partitions that are included in my /etc/fstab..... I can access them as root...how do I change it to allow access from a regular user? |
| 00:25.41 | max_ | xinming: alsaconf does find the nforce2 device and says everything is fine |
| 00:25.46 | CrippsFX | narker: true that. |
| 00:25.48 | ruski | CrippsFX, ro,user in your fstab options |
| 00:26.03 | CrippsFX | ruski: thnx. |
| 00:26.08 | xinming | CrazyEddy: Use umask=002 will allow read access to them |
| 00:26.21 | xinming | max_: remove alsa |
| 00:26.27 | xinming | max_: apt-get remove alsa |
| 00:26.31 | bnoji | wow. this kid i know is facing murder charges in Utah |
| 00:26.32 | ruski | narker, : install something like gdm or kdm |
| 00:27.06 | xinming | max_: In fact there will be a easy way to try this is you use ERC. |
| 00:27.11 | bnoji | Him and some other kid killed a substance abuse counselor and took a van to vegas |
| 00:27.22 | xinming | max_: you don't need to shutdown X and come here. |
| 00:27.36 | max_ | xinming: you mean alsa-base and alsa-utils? |
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| 00:28.00 | max_ | xinming: being inside o X shouldn't affect it.. X nor kde are using the sound devices at all. |
| 00:28.05 | pcableman | safe safe |
| 00:28.12 | CrippsFX | ruski: I'm still getting the "permission denied" error :S |
| 00:28.34 | xinming | max_: Yeap,I don't think we need them If we use 2.6.x kernel.I am not sure actually,But It works fine in my machine without alsa |
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| 00:28.52 | BlanK^ | Hey :pcableman |
| 00:29.00 | sparr | now when i boot I get two FATAL errors, cannot find modules ide_cd and ide_detect, then fsck hangs |
| 00:29.04 | xinming | CrippsFX: in options field,add umask=002 |
| 00:29.06 | pcableman | heey blank |
| 00:29.09 | pcableman | how u? |
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| 00:29.30 | xinming | CrippsFX: This is mine |
| 00:29.35 | xinming | CrippsFX: umask=002,iocharset=gb2312,defaults |
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| 00:29.51 | BlanK^ | pcableman: How can i get access to that link u gave me seems like its the cats fault? |
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| 00:30.07 | max_ | xinming: ok, i removed the alsa packages. there's still a asound.state ile in /var/lib/alsa. looks like it has mixer settings |
| 00:30.08 | xinming | CrippsFX: remove iocharset=gb2312,and then try mine. :-) |
| 00:30.12 | tw1lit | how do i downgrade a single package ?? |
| 00:30.14 | max_ | ls |
| 00:30.19 | pcableman | probably is give him a quick kick should sort out the server log file |
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| 00:30.36 | CrippsFX | xinming: grr...still not working..the line in the file looks like this: |
| 00:30.51 | xinming | max_: Ok,then if you use root,you can use soundcard,right? |
| 00:31.06 | CrippsFX | xinming: /dev/hda5 /win_d ntfs ro,user,umask=002 0 2 |
| 00:31.11 | BlanK^ | Yea ill sort it soon been to busy overclcoking cables and stuff u know how it gos |
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| 00:31.17 | sparr | guess its time to move on from debian |
| 00:31.19 | xinming | CrippsFX: remove ro |
| 00:31.24 | CrippsFX | kk |
| 00:31.26 | pcableman | yeah no the feelin |
| 00:31.38 | pcableman | i actually needed ur help |
| 00:31.44 | pcableman | or anyones help |
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| 00:31.46 | pattern | iwilcox, now that i've purged nullmailer with --force-depends i get complaints from apt about unmet dependencies for some of my packages (they require an MTA)... how can i inform apt that i do have an MTA, it's just not an MTA installed from a deb? |
| 00:31.51 | BlanK^ | Really? |
| 00:31.56 | xinming | CrippsFX: Oops.sorry,hold on plz. |
| 00:31.57 | CrippsFX | xinming: same story |
| 00:31.59 | tw1lit | sparr: but the road ends at debian. :) |
| 00:31.59 | pcableman | got an A level thing i needed to do |
| 00:32.04 | CrippsFX | xinming: lol..kk |
| 00:32.05 | pcableman | needed to as a question |
| 00:32.07 | narker | fuck |
| 00:32.08 | max_ | xinming: well, xmms doesn't seem to work with the alsa plugin as root or as a user |
| 00:32.21 | narker | I can't start neither gnome nor KDE... it just keep a grey screen... any idea? |
| 00:32.24 | xinming | CrippsFX: I remember that NTFS should use another option. |
| 00:32.35 | narker | I've compiled the latest kernel and upgraded the system... |
| 00:32.35 | pcableman | does the case make it go faster? |
| 00:32.38 | xinming | max_: then,change the plugin in Xmms |
| 00:32.40 | narker | and it doesn't work now |
| 00:32.49 | CrippsFX | xinming: any clues to what it is? ;) |
| 00:32.58 | max_ | xinming: all of them say the same thing |
| 00:33.04 | CrippsFX | narker: is it twm, fvwm ...or just nothing at all? |
| 00:33.12 | michal | i'm about to set up a cvs repository and was wondering whether there is any compelling reason to consider subversion instead? i've looked at the website and while that lists the advantages I was wondering if anyone here knows of any DISadvantages? |
| 00:33.26 | narker | CrippsFX : it works if I start blackbox... wmaker... etc... little desktops |
| 00:33.27 | max_ | xinming: do u have kde setup to use alsa? |
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| 00:33.34 | narker | but it doesn't work when I want to start KDE or Gnome!! |
| 00:33.34 | BlanK^ | The computer case? |
| 00:33.35 | pcableman | *HELP!* does the case make it go faster? |
| 00:33.36 | narker | :'( |
| 00:33.36 | pattern | i'm installing qmail by hand, not from a deb... how can i tell apt that my hand-install qualifies as an MTA for the sake of resolving dependencies? |
| 00:33.41 | narker | CrippsFX : why's that? |
| 00:33.44 | sparr | can anyone recommend a distro i might move to from debian? i like debian, i just need more hardware compatibility |
| 00:33.50 | CrippsFX | narker: hmm...so stick with wmaker :P |
| 00:33.53 | ruski | Can anyone recommend an easy way to install linux onto a sata disk with out having to chroot from one install to another ? |
| 00:33.54 | narker | noo |
| 00:33.57 | pcableman | yeah the big silver thing |
| 00:33.57 | narker | i want gnome back! |
| 00:34.03 | CrippsFX | narker: if everything else works...I don't know |
| 00:34.46 | BlanK^ | pcableman: http://www.rathergood.co.uk/welikethemoon.htm |
| 00:34.46 | CrippsFX | narker: lucky me...I've been stuck using windows for the past 7 months |
| 00:34.50 | BlanK^ | every1:http://www.rathergood.co.uk/welikethemoon.htm |
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| 00:35.03 | pcableman | i love that |
| 00:35.06 | pcableman | lmao |
| 00:35.06 | BlanK^ | cheer you all up |
| 00:35.11 | xinming | max_: No,I disabled OSS in KDE control center |
| 00:35.23 | GunZ | if my isp has a firewall that prevents anybody outside the network from viewing your ftp server, can you use vtun (tunneling) to allow people to see your server? |
| 00:35.23 | pcableman | BUT NOT AS MUCH AS SPOONS |
| 00:35.33 | BlanK^ | i overclcoked my pc case and it flies |
| 00:35.38 | pcableman | sick as |
| 00:35.45 | pcableman | need a tennents |
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| 00:35.54 | max_ | xinming: u have an nforce2 board? |
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| 00:36.48 | lanchow | i have a scanner and a printer, can my sid autodetect and install them ? |
| 00:36.55 | xinming | max_: well.I got AMD 2500+ And Epox 8rda3g,Don't think that I didn't get this board? :-) |
| 00:38.07 | max_ | xinming: well.. i dunno.. it seems like i forgot some fundamental step but i cant figure out what it is |
| 00:38.21 | FlowWolf | anyone tried gentoo? I'd like a debian perspective on it... how well does their emerge package manager compare to dpkg, how is their install when compared to stable, how is their hardware support when compared to testing, etc. |
| 00:38.48 | xinming | CrippsFX: Ok,I got |
| 00:38.51 | xinming | CrippsFX: I got it |
| 00:38.58 | CrippsFX | excellent |
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| 00:39.28 | xinming | CrippsFX: add /dev/hdxy /mnt/mount_point ntfs umask=002 0 0 to your fstab file |
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| 00:39.34 | ellobo | hi |
| 00:39.47 | xinming | /dev/hdxy /mnt/mount_point ntfs umask=002 0 2 |
| 00:40.07 | xinming | CrippsFX: then umount /mnt/mount_point;mount /mnt/mount_point |
| 00:40.08 | ellobo | has anyone here managed to boot with a differente DSDT table ? |
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| 00:40.28 | xinming | max_: bbl |
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| 00:41.07 | ellobo | apt dsdt |
| 00:41.08 | | ellobo: are you using Windows? |
| 00:41.17 | ellobo | :P |
| 00:41.31 | CrippsFX | xinming: sweet-a-friggin-riffic |
| 00:41.33 | CrippsFX | xinming: thank you |
| 00:41.41 | lanchow | i have a scanner and a printer, can my sid autodetect and install them ? |
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| 00:41.54 | xinming | max_: If your ALSA is compiled as modules.you have to insmod them first. |
| 00:41.57 | xinming | CrippsFX: :-) |
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| 00:42.11 | ellobo | lanchow: you might want to take a look at sane and cups |
| 00:42.11 | davis | what is a tool for viewing bmp file? |
| 00:42.17 | beta3 | apt: bluescreen |
| 00:42.19 | | it has been said that bluescreen is A Microsoft anomoly that still exists despite the \"death\" of Dos. |
| 00:42.19 | xinming | CrippsFX: the last number is 2.Not 0.Sorry,typo. |
| 00:42.26 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 00:42.28 | xinming | apt dsdt |
| 00:42.29 | | no idea, xinming |
| 00:42.38 | xinming | apt love you... |
| 00:42.41 | | If you love you... so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 00:42.41 | narker | I've recompiled the latest kernel.. and upgraded my sistem ( It was un-upgraded since nov-dec ) ... Neither Gnome nor KDE work now.... when I try to start those desktops it just display a grey screen.... but I do can start blackbox or wmaker... any idea? |
| 00:42.55 | piingouin | Dos is dead ?!?! |
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| 00:43.04 | xinming | apt nonsense. |
| 00:43.05 | | xinming: I give up, what is it? |
| 00:43.11 | ellobo | narker: update-alternatives ? |
| 00:43.18 | pcableman | I LOVE THE MOON |
| 00:43.22 | CrippsFX | xinming: it works...not screwin with it now :P |
| 00:43.25 | narker | ellobo : what? |
| 00:43.42 | FieldySnuts | i thought he said something else |
| 00:43.46 | FieldySnuts | rhyming with moon |
| 00:44.04 | pcableman | spoon? |
| 00:44.09 | guidance | I LOVE THE POPE ! |
| 00:44.14 | lanchow | yes |
| 00:44.28 | ellobo | narker: update-alternatives lets you configure the default applications for x-window-manager x-session-manager (for instance) |
| 00:44.43 | pcableman | I LOVE SPAZ HOLES |
| 00:44.46 | pcableman | ;) |
| 00:44.50 | idnarhtim | pattern: the FAQ in the topic should answer your query |
| 00:44.56 | narker | ellobo : so what should I run? "update-alternatives x-session-manager" ? |
| 00:45.06 | xinming | CrippsFX: just try it,then you will get it. ;-) In fact,I ever tried ntfs.But not a good os if you wanna use Linux but can't live without windows. |
| 00:45.25 | xinming | CrippsFX: os-> fs |
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| 00:45.40 | max_ | xinming: do u have them compiled as modules or in the kernel? |
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| 00:46.28 | pattern | idnarhti: thanks! |
| 00:46.39 | guidance | pcableman I LOVE YOU DEAD |
| 00:46.41 | xinming | max_: I compiled them into the kerenel.And the another important thing more is you must install modulti-init-tools(maybe this name) |
| 00:47.19 | CrippsFX | xinming: whoops..i missed the last few messages you just sent me. |
| 00:47.20 | guidance | pcableman ARE YOU DEAD YET ? |
| 00:47.27 | max_ | xinming: did you compile the OSS part in? |
| 00:47.39 | xinming | max_: If you done this already.And you've compiled these things( alsa) into the kernel. |
| 00:47.45 | xinming | max_: Yeap,I did |
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| 00:47.53 | davis | err, i've got these cool lookking bmp files in my /boot directory, but I dont know what I can do with them. Any idea? |
| 00:48.02 | xinming | CrippsFX: just try it,then you will get it. ;-) In fact,I ever tried |
| 00:48.03 | xinming | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:48.04 | xinming | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:48.30 | pcableman | nope im quite alive im afriad |
| 00:48.31 | xinming | CrippsFX: I mean you just try the options for mount,and then you will get it. |
| 00:48.42 | CrippsFX | xinming: ahh..yeah, I got it... |
| 00:49.01 | xinming | CrippsFX: And If you wanna use Windows.And also use Linux.then you don't and have to use fat |
| 00:49.21 | CrippsFX | xinming: ntfs is a pain when working with linux....but its more efficient using windows. |
| 00:49.24 | xinming | CrippsFX: Or things are awsome while you wanna share file between windows and Linux. |
| 00:49.36 | xinming | CrippsFX: I don't think so. :-) |
| 00:49.41 | BlanK^ | Windows is NTFS isnt it whats the advantage of this over Fat 32 |
| 00:49.52 | CrippsFX | xinming: actually....I'm downloading windows:longhorn right now :P |
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| 00:50.19 | CrippsFX | anyways...gotta go re-write a german mid-term. |
| 00:50.23 | CrippsFX | cheers. |
| 00:50.25 | pcableman | NTFS has got unlimited file sizes |
| 00:50.30 | xinming | CrippsFX: Actually,I have got most Versions of Red hat And Debian 2.2 :-) |
| 00:50.31 | pcableman | fat got a max of 4gb |
| 00:50.34 | plugwash | BlanK^ ntfs has permissions features and is faster and more efficiant on large drives |
| 00:50.56 | pcableman | i think |
| 00:50.58 | pcableman | :S |
| 00:50.59 | pcableman | lol |
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| 00:51.05 | plugwash | also XP won't let you format a partition over a partiuclar size as fat32 |
| 00:51.15 | xinming | pcableman: I think the problem is,If no DVD iso such kind of things.We won't use a file larger than 4 GB. |
| 00:51.42 | BlanK^ | Ok |
| 00:51.49 | xinming | I got a 120G Hdd,and all are formated into Fat32. :-) |
| 00:51.53 | xinming | Just for Linux... :-) |
| 00:51.57 | guidance | pcableman pcableman |
| 00:52.07 | guidance | FODE_TE |
| 00:52.34 | pcableman | guildance wat u want? |
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| 00:52.56 | guidance | k te fodas |
| 00:53.45 | pcableman | blnak might go in abit |
| 00:53.58 | pcableman | fancy wakin off in a pan of boilin water |
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| 00:54.05 | pcableman | aint done it for a while |
| 00:54.11 | max_ | xinming: recompiled stuff into the kernel.. rebooting... |
| 00:54.30 | plugwash | i'm sure people have written ext2 drivers for windows |
| 00:54.41 | BlanK^ | pcableman: Wow really |
| 00:54.42 | plugwash | not sure how well they work though |
| 00:55.00 | pcableman | yeah dont u remember the good old days u me and bob |
| 00:55.17 | ellobo | guidance: isso é lá coisa que se diga :) |
| 00:55.18 | pcableman | one big giant boiling pan of water and 3 scolding bells |
| 00:55.46 | BlanK^ | Bob gt badly hurt with the very fast spinngin hard disk with no protecting case on! wow it was messy |
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| 00:56.18 | pcableman | i know moron he shud be more careful wen he rubs his bell on solder |
| 00:56.38 | xinming | Oops... anyone would like to try init 7 ? :-) |
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| 00:56.52 | pcableman | i heard he goes hardcore now and wipes bell over the componants while its runnin |
| 00:56.54 | XardKore | hello people :) Does anyone know where i can find some info about increasing the default file-descripters (ulimit -n) for a user other than root? Thanks |
| 00:56.56 | beta3 | ~nslookup blog.mirrorlynx.com |
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| 00:57.02 | xinming | a thin worth trying. :-) |
| 00:57.20 | BlanK^ | What about jack what a nutter man he shuved his paper cut bell into the cpu fan and it also gt burnt on the heatsink! |
| 00:57.34 | pcableman | ouch |
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| 00:58.05 | pcableman | laters all |
| 00:58.12 | Devi0s | when configuring a kernel to minimize the kernel size on an i386 system the what are the most common things to disable or turn into a module in the kernel configuration? |
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| 00:58.20 | xinming | pcableman: did you try init 7? :-) |
| 00:58.22 | plugwash | XardKore the normal way among people i know is to do it as root then su down to the user you wan't to run the program as |
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| 00:58.33 | isga | How can i find an channel in irc? |
| 00:58.46 | isga | sorry ot |
| 00:59.06 | pcableman | NAHH I REROUTED IT THRU THE BIOS AND MANAGED TO CHANGE THE CORE VOLTAGE TO 5683GHZ |
| 00:59.12 | BlanK^ | forward slash list |
| 00:59.19 | pcableman | OVERCLOCKED LIKE A DREAM |
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| 00:59.41 | piingouin | but you're keyboard now is damaged pcableman |
| 00:59.54 | xinming | max_: Is it working now? |
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| 00:59.56 | poppet | how can i apply changes to /etc/profile? only seems to work if i do source /etc/profile, shouldnt it be automatic when i log back in? |
| 01:00.00 | pcableman | I KNOW SMALL PRICE TO PAY THO |
| 01:00.07 | pcableman | ME BELL WITH FIX IT |
| 01:00.15 | xinming | poppet: source /xxx/xxxx/xxx file |
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| 01:00.24 | pcableman | ME BELL NO'S EVERYTHIN |
| 01:00.34 | BlanK^ | Yeaaaaaaaap |
| 01:00.40 | pcableman | LMAO LATERS MATE |
| 01:00.43 | lucas | poppet, are you making sure it's a login shell? |
| 01:00.51 | piingouin | pcableman, please...you're caps |
| 01:00.55 | BlanK^ | Keyboards sux i spilt beer all over mine and keys stick to shit |
| 01:00.55 | pcableman | WANNNNNNNKKKKKAAAAAAAASSSSSS GOOOOODDD NITE!!!!!!! |
| 01:01.09 | poppet | lucas, its a ssh shell, but i restarted the box as well |
| 01:01.19 | pcableman | CAPS RULE BE A REBEL AN WIPE BELL WITH ME |
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| 01:01.33 | BlanK^ | CAPS DO RULL THO |
| 01:01.38 | pcableman | SERIOUSLY |
| 01:01.42 | FieldySnuts | can somebody +q these idiots, thanks. |
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| 01:01.46 | isga | what means +n? |
| 01:01.48 | pcableman | TIS THE WORD OF THY BELL |
| 01:01.49 | piingouin | oh please yes..... |
| 01:01.59 | BlanK^ | YES PLAESE |
| 01:02.01 | davis | i'm using lilo to display a boot graphic but itlooks screwed up. |
| 01:02.05 | BlanK^ | Pissin me off man |
| 01:02.09 | FieldySnuts | simonrvn: would you consider telling the CAPS USERS to knock it off |
| 01:02.12 | pcableman | LMAO OI YA CANT |
| 01:02.26 | pcableman | nahh me leavin now anyways |
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| 01:02.34 | BlanK^ | good ridence |
| 01:02.38 | pcableman | fuk off |
| 01:02.39 | pcableman | lol |
| 01:02.43 | xinming | FieldySnuts: maybe he like caps. :-) |
| 01:02.51 | pcableman | DAMN RITE! :p |
| 01:02.55 | BlanK^ | Oh he does |
| 01:02.56 | davis | i did install=/boot/bmp and bitmap=/boot/debianlilo.bmp |
| 01:02.57 | XardKore | <plugwash> Thanks for the answer mate....so do i need to run the specific app as root? |
| 01:03.01 | pcableman | nite |
| 01:03.04 | BlanK^ | Caps kick ass |
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| 01:03.12 | BlanK^ | caps is the future |
| 01:03.26 | davis | i get the image but the timer and the choices dont line up with the black spaces in the bitmap. |
| 01:03.30 | davis | any idea why? |
| 01:03.34 | lucas | poppet, hmm don't know then, i'm pretty sure /etc/profile will be read for a login shell |
| 01:03.42 | max_ | xinming: yes, it works |
| 01:03.49 | lucas | poppet, you're using bash right? |
| 01:03.56 | poppet | yes lucas |
| 01:03.58 | max_ | xinming: to a point... volume control for spdif doesn't work |
| 01:04.06 | BlanK^ | YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP |
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| 01:04.25 | FieldySnuts | is it possible to use software raid1 with my /boot partition, or do i have to leave it non-raid? |
| 01:04.30 | xinming | max_: well.Is your sound card working now? :-) |
| 01:04.38 | lucas | FieldySnuts, it can be done |
| 01:04.40 | max_ | xinming: well, yea.. kinda |
| 01:04.53 | FieldySnuts | lucas: i imagine so, but it sounds like it'd be annoying or even a bad idea |
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| 01:04.59 | max_ | xinming: it's not dolby digital (dts) |
| 01:05.05 | xinming | max_: I just can let play sound.But can't control sound. :-) maybe a bug in kernel. :-) |
| 01:05.19 | lucas | FieldySnuts, iirc, you just tell lilo you have two partitions it can possibly boot from |
| 01:05.23 | xinming | max_: I've no idea. |
| 01:05.33 | max_ | xinming: did u ever mess with .asound files? |
| 01:05.40 | xinming | max_: No. |
| 01:05.41 | FieldySnuts | that makes sense, sounds simpler. just have to update both when i update one. |
| 01:05.45 | BlanK^ | Does any one know if there is a later model of the ngforce 3 chipset for motherboards i can only find motherboards model nforce 3 150 |
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| 01:06.11 | xinming | max_: I just need it sound... only few music is enough. :-) |
| 01:06.21 | lucas | FieldySnuts, i've done it several times, it doesn't really give much benefiet, /boot stays unmounted most of the time anyway |
| 01:06.31 | max_ | xinming: well, thats a good step for now.. thanx man |
| 01:06.36 | FieldySnuts | yeah. doesn't sound worth the hassle for /boot |
| 01:06.38 | lucas | s/benefiet/benefit/ |
| 01:06.52 | FieldySnuts | if i lost both disks, i think i'd just accept i'm totally f*cked |
| 01:06.57 | lucas | hehe |
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| 01:07.32 | FieldySnuts | fun part will be moving the system from one disk to raid1.. have to dump everything somewhere temporarily, probably a second machine via an rsync server |
| 01:07.33 | xinming | max_: No need to thank me. :-) share our experience so that ppl won't b knocked by Linux . ;-) |
| 01:07.37 | lucas | FieldySnuts, i think lilo has a raid_extra_boot parameter or something, look it up, it's quite simple |
| 01:07.39 | FieldySnuts | i definately won't be bored tonight |
| 01:08.12 | FieldySnuts | 80G over the network then back.. fun |
| 01:08.29 | BlanK^ | Take ages |
| 01:08.46 | vedge | FieldySnuts: bah, as long as it's not a wireless network, it won't take that long |
| 01:08.51 | xinming | max_: I can't control volume either.But I got an easier way to get this rid out. :-) |
| 01:08.52 | FieldySnuts | right |
| 01:09.00 | max_ | xinming: yea..i'll sum it up: if it dont work, keep recompiling the kernel until it does |
| 01:09.04 | CompWizd | 2.5 hours, no big deal :P |
| 01:09.16 | xinming | max_: by a headphone which can handle volume...lol |
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| 01:09.34 | max_ | xinming: well, hardware solutions are often best :) |
| 01:09.35 | lucas | FieldySnuts, if you have lots of room and big seperate /usr and /var (for example) you can do it all on the one machine |
| 01:09.41 | xinming | max_: No need to compile any more.I've tried this for 3 days. |
| 01:09.58 | xinming | max_: don't go the same way as mine. :'( |
| 01:10.08 | phogg | Why is tdfsb in section games? It may not be of particular utility, but it's not that useless. |
| 01:10.15 | FieldySnuts | lucas: nah i got it already planned out, it'll all be moved to an rsync server on another system, then back |
| 01:10.18 | max_ | xinming: well, time to get drunk and celebrate st. patties day |
| 01:10.25 | lucas | FieldySnuts, cool |
| 01:10.25 | max_ | y'all have a good night! |
| 01:10.43 | FieldySnuts | two seagate 120G UATA100 8MB cache disks, not bad |
| 01:10.44 | xinming | max_: Ok,good nite to you 2 |
| 01:10.45 | poppet | any idea as to why /etc/profile does not get parsed? |
| 01:10.54 | BlanK^ | Feeling wankered already |
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| 01:10.59 | FieldySnuts | wankered lol nice word |
| 01:12.07 | BlanK^ | Dam right it is last time i remember using it some ass got all crazy lecturing me about wankered being a verb and cant use it etc |
| 01:12.21 | FieldySnuts | nah i like it |
| 01:12.29 | FieldySnuts | i call people wankers in real life, they get annoyed |
| 01:12.29 | Devi0s | when configuring a 2.4 kernel to minimize the kernel size on an i386 system the what are the most common things to disable or turn into a module in the kernel configuration? |
| 01:12.39 | beta3 | is it possible to forge dates with the filesystem |
| 01:12.43 | BlanK^ | Gd gd every 1 should |
| 01:13.01 | FieldySnuts | or if i'm mad at them, abo c*ntsh*ters |
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| 01:13.35 | FieldySnuts | heh. fuckin sh*t. |
| 01:14.06 | BlanK^ | lol wan*ing wan*ered |
| 01:14.15 | vedge | Devi0s: well, you could configure just about everything except IDE and filesystem support for your root drive |
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| 01:14.44 | Devi0s | vedge: ? |
| 01:15.09 | BlanK^ | Think i not drink any more tinnies got college 2moz |
| 01:15.34 | vedge | Devi0s: don't put in any non necessary drivers (network, sound, whatever) that are not needed for booting and mounting the root fs |
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| 01:15.55 | FieldySnuts | BlanK^: please stop ctcp flooding me. |
| 01:16.06 | FieldySnuts | idiot. |
| 01:16.17 | BlanK^ | Sorry |
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| 01:17.04 | BlanK^ | I not been using IRC for long |
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| 01:17.44 | mr_mind | hello |
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| 01:18.04 | BlanK^ | Hey |
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| 01:18.28 | mr_mind | i have a question. may i? |
| 01:18.50 | xinming | mr_mind: Just ask.ppl who knows will tell you. |
| 01:18.52 | BlanK^ | I think it says dont ask to ask a question just ask it? |
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| 01:18.57 | mr_mind | it's about pcf.gz fonts. are they supported in defoma? |
| 01:19.30 | mr_mind | i've installed xfonts-artwiz but i'm unable to put the to work in defoma |
| 01:19.31 | xinming | Sorry,I can't be helpful |
| 01:19.37 | mr_mind | thnx anyway |
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| 01:20.15 | xinming | It seems to be quiet now. |
| 01:20.30 | BlanK^ | whats a good stary linux os cause i been using windowz for too long |
| 01:20.54 | BlanK^ | Tumble weed |
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| 01:22.21 | phogg | BlanK^: to start, try Libranet |
| 01:23.29 | BlanK^ | Ok thanks i am currently downloading KNOPPIX is this any good |
| 01:24.13 | xinming | BlanK^: Knoppix is a good live-CD. :-) |
| 01:24.16 | BlanK^ | Thing is tho i like gotta make decision cause boradband etc not available where i live at the moment without beging really expensive |
| 01:26.05 | BlanK^ | Will Knoppix aid me well in learning |
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| 01:26.34 | Kelmer | hi |
| 01:26.41 | Kelmer | how can I redirect a port with iptables ? |
| 01:26.50 | xinming | BlanK^: If your brandboard will spend you which is the same every month. |
| 01:26.51 | BlanK^ | I thought this one would be good cause wont need to format and mess about with file systems |
| 01:26.57 | Kelmer | i've been trying with iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING |
| 01:26.59 | xinming | BlanK^: then you can use Debian. :-) |
| 01:27.02 | Kelmer | and iptables -A FORWARD |
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| 01:27.15 | Kelmer | but the port is not redirected okay |
| 01:27.20 | Kelmer | any idea? |
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| 01:28.11 | BlanK^ | xinming: sorry i dont understand branboard? |
| 01:28.16 | mr_mind | anyone got ideas? |
| 01:28.17 | narker | I've recompiled the latest kernel.. and upgraded my sistem ( It was un-upgraded since nov-dec ) ... Neither Gnome nor KDE work now.... when I try to start those desktops it just display a grey screen.... but I do can start blackbox or wmaker... any idea? |
| 01:28.24 | mr_mind | it's about pcf.gz fonts. are they supported in defoma? |
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| 01:29.04 | FieldySnuts | anyone have a shellscript which would find all files on a system, and output their full path and size, sorted by size? |
| 01:29.06 | narker | mr_mind are you talkin me? |
| 01:29.18 | mr_mind | narker: i'm asking to everybody |
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| 01:31.02 | xinming | BlanK^: there will be 2 kinds of paying brandboard.There might be cost each month,and even you don't go online.you have to pay too.And another kind is you have to pay for it upon your using.Sorry,My English isn't so good,might confuse you. |
| 01:31.13 | BlanK^ | xinming: im using crappy p2p software for the donwload of Knoppix iso |
| 01:32.05 | xinming | BlanK^: That's good then :-) |
| 01:32.17 | narker | I've recompiled the latest kernel.. and upgraded my sistem ( It was un-upgraded since nov-dec ) ... Neither Gnome nor KDE work now.... when I try to start those desktops it just display a grey screen.... but I do can start blackbox or wmaker... any idea???? should I remove all X stuff and re-install it? |
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