| 00:00.15 | beta3 | argonel: GTK is a bitch, and so is WxPython |
| 00:00.19 | argonel | raphink: sounds to me like its not installed :) |
| 00:00.29 | raphink | well I installed all the package |
| 00:00.30 | raphink | ... |
| 00:00.39 | argonel | beta3: true enough, i've never been happy with any of the python guis |
| 00:00.41 | raphink | though it didn't ask me to put all the CDs in |
| 00:00.54 | beta3 | argonel: pyqt isn't bad |
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| 00:00.56 | argonel | perhaps one day i'll be unlazy enough to do something about it, if someone doesn't beat me to it |
| 00:00.58 | bluefox83 | gokee2, add this next line to your sources.list, then run apt-get update and use apt-cache search mplayer |
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| 00:01.10 | bluefox83 | #debian unofficial |
| 00:01.10 | bluefox83 | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main |
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| 00:01.26 | bluefox83 | gmplayer comes bundled in the package |
| 00:01.32 | intx | how do I make a shell script, that changes into root? |
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| 00:01.32 | bluefox83 | that's hwo i installed it ;) |
| 00:01.38 | raphink | argonel : I just followed the installation programm while booting with the first CD from the latest release |
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| 00:01.59 | bluefox83 | intx, you don't |
| 00:02.08 | bluefox83 | it's uber-dangerous |
| 00:02.24 | beta3 | argonel: I think Im going to submit a patch to the maintainer of sysvinit, I want user init scripts |
| 00:02.29 | bluefox83 | unless you want it to prompt you for the password first |
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| 00:02.39 | beta3 | argonel: they may not run real time services, but some things would be nice to have |
| 00:02.58 | argonel | raphink: what does 'dpkg --get-selections | grep xserver-common' say? |
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| 00:03.16 | argonel | beta3: 'user init scripts'? |
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| 00:03.29 | beta3 | argonel: things run on login, not just your shell |
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| 00:04.11 | argonel | beta3: well, that could be accomplished without modifying sysvinit |
| 00:04.28 | nono | Seems that gdm does not remember the language choice at the login (even that he ask to remember it)... worked before... does not work anymore, weird... someone has an idea? (a file where I can put the locale to use) |
| 00:04.28 | intx | bluefox83: okay, despite it being uber dangerous.. how? |
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| 00:04.28 | |Predator | on squid while I used "acl PlaYnet src 80.76.62.16/28" and "http_access allow PlaYnet" it still won't allow me to connect through the proxy |
| 00:04.31 | intx | bluefox83: i'm only need it temporarily |
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| 00:04.39 | intx | *I only |
| 00:04.47 | bluefox83 | i dunno, never written a shell script before |
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| 00:05.00 | bluefox83 | i just know that's one thing you shouldn't do |
| 00:05.03 | argonel | intx: why do you want to modify hosts.allow in a script? |
| 00:05.06 | raphink | argonel : this doesn't say anything |
| 00:05.24 | daedelus | anyone know how to get the ian eura net install to see my hpt374 ata drive |
| 00:05.27 | intx | argonel: because i need to add a line to it! |
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| 00:05.53 | argonel | intx: i suggest opening editor and adding the line. |
| 00:05.57 | intx | just.. if something goes wrong, i'm screwed, not you.. could someone just tell me? |
| 00:06.05 | intx | i can't do that |
| 00:06.12 | intx | if I had another option, I wouldn't be asking |
| 00:06.32 | net_angel | argonel: thx it was a good help finally sysvinit circular info |
| 00:06.34 | argonel | intx: i'm trying to get enough info out of you to see for myself if there is another way. |
| 00:06.42 | intx | I already explained it 2-3 times up there if anyone was reading.. |
| 00:06.56 | daedelus | anyone? |
| 00:07.04 | argonel | net_angel: no problem, thats what reading the channel topic can do for you :) |
| 00:07.12 | beta3 | argonel: how? |
| 00:07.13 | intx | argonel: there isn't.. I've already explored the possibilities.. if there was another way, it'd mean me not securing my system well enough |
| 00:07.19 | bluefox83 | daedelus, nope |
| 00:07.29 | daedelus | wow that sucks |
| 00:07.34 | raphink | argonel : there is no answer to the typing of the command line |
| 00:07.34 | argonel | intx: i'm going to scroll back, hang on |
| 00:07.44 | daedelus | so i have to put the damn hard drive on standard ide? |
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| 00:07.54 | argonel | beta3: specify something else as a login program. |
| 00:08.04 | intx | would su | echo rootpass work? |
| 00:08.35 | beta3 | argonel: hmm, make a fake shell for passwd, and that will execute the user init, then send to regular shell |
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| 00:08.40 | elshaa | hello |
| 00:08.44 | ttw | intx: definately not |
| 00:08.52 | bluefox83 | daedelus, dunno, i have no experience with that..but google might know |
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| 00:09.05 | pipegeek | Well, I'm back. |
| 00:09.06 | argonel | intx: i'm sorry, i can't help you. i came into the channel after your explanation. |
| 00:09.18 | argonel | intx: you could try chmod on the hosts.allow file... |
| 00:09.32 | |Predator | on squid while I used "acl PlaYnet src 80.76.62.16/28" and "http_access allow PlaYnet" it still won't allow me to connect through the proxy |
| 00:09.39 | ttw | argonel: i think that would be about as wise as a root shell script |
| 00:09.44 | elshaa | someone could help making my wireless pcmcia card to communicate with the wireless router ? (I google since 3 hours and just few avancement) |
| 00:09.48 | pshaggy | suggestion for a good X based usenet reader anyone? |
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| 00:10.04 | raphink | anyone to help a newbie whose x server's not working ? |
| 00:10.05 | raphink | ;) |
| 00:10.10 | beth | intx: look into sudo. However, what you're doing is almost certainly a bad idea... |
| 00:10.19 | intx | beth: sudo isn't installed, I think. |
| 00:10.20 | argonel | ttw: perhaps, however hosts.allow would take a little more work to exploit than making it so any shell on the system can become root |
| 00:10.22 | beth | intx: but sudo would be the way to do it |
| 00:10.25 | ttw | intx: hold on let me test a couple of things - i've done this before but it's messy and i can't remember exactly the procedure |
| 00:10.28 | beth | intx: so install it |
| 00:10.37 | intx | beth: I can only do that as root, right? |
| 00:10.42 | beth | like, duh |
| 00:10.46 | intx | beth: then I can't :) |
| 00:10.55 | beth | intx: if you don't have root on this system, writing a magical shell script will not make you root |
| 00:10.55 | pipegeek | Any chance anybone has any idea? I'm trying to add something to the Applications menu in gnome--not by editing some file as root, but by using the context menu (I want the users of this machine to be able to do the same) and every time I attempt to modify it, I get "cannot save menu item to disk". I'm using sarge, and Gnome 2.4. *Please* help, as this machine is going into use on Monday |
| 00:10.56 | bluefox83 | forget your root password or something? |
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| 00:11.04 | argonel | huh? you only need to be root during installation |
| 00:11.17 | beth | intx: what are you trying to do |
| 00:11.18 | intx | beth: I have the root password... but I can only execute 'one' command at a time. |
| 00:11.19 | argonel | raphink: i'm sorry! didn't i tell you to try apt-get install xserver-common? |
| 00:11.26 | beth | intx: um |
| 00:11.32 | beth | intx: that makes no sense. Elaborate. |
| 00:11.34 | raphink | argonel thanks no you didn't tell me ;) |
| 00:11.41 | intx | *scrolls up and pastes* |
| 00:11.44 | argonel | raphink: whoops :) |
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| 00:12.03 | argonel | beth: he must like you better than me :) |
| 00:12.03 | raphink | argonel it's ok thanks I'm gonna try ;) |
| 00:12.10 | dragonbyte | why wont gaim connect to yahoo in debian SID? |
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| 00:12.24 | intx | <intx> i'm trying to add my host to hosts.allow :) I locked myself out of my system, which I was planning on getting into as I'm now miles away from it. | <Justin_> intx: then how are you typing these commands? | <intx> Justin_: via an eggdrop |
| 00:12.46 | bluefox83 | i'm having that same problem dragonbyte |
| 00:12.55 | argonel | doh! |
| 00:13.03 | dragonbyte | i know there was an issue with it, but supposedly its been fixed |
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| 00:13.14 | dragonbyte | not sure why debian hasnt fixed their package yet |
| 00:13.24 | bluefox83 | there's a patch for it..i'm trying to figure out what program to patch.. |
| 00:13.30 | beth | intx: I'm still confused. What machine are you on, what machine are you "fixing", what do you mean by "locked out", how will hosts.allow help you??? |
| 00:13.42 | oslin | anyone know what this means :dh_movefiles: debian/tmp/#DOCS# not found |
| 00:13.57 | pipegeek | dragonbyte: methinks it has something to do with the fact that the yahoo code in the current version of debian is sort of broken. There is a patch available at gaim.sf.net, but I'm not sure if it addresses this. |
| 00:14.08 | pipegeek | err, the current version of gaim |
| 00:14.10 | pipegeek | not debian |
| 00:14.11 | pipegeek | :^) |
| 00:14.17 | argonel | whats the channel policy on helping someone thats technically trying to crack into someone box, his own or not? |
| 00:14.49 | sirReal | argonel: he says he has root, though, sounds like he's in |
| 00:14.51 | bluefox83 | don't do it? |
| 00:14.52 | petemc | argonel: scrpt kiddies get laughed at |
| 00:15.15 | argonel | sirReal: well, hes got an eggy that has .tcl bound, from the looks of it |
| 00:15.20 | beth | argonel: we have to confirm he's a script kiddie. Then we make fun of him while t4lk1ng l1k3 th15 |
| 00:15.25 | oslin | anyone here a package maintainer, who i could pick there brains for a sec.... |
| 00:15.27 | argonel | hehe |
| 00:15.38 | sirReal | argonel: no clue what that means :\ |
| 00:15.40 | beth | oslin: most people are attached to their brains... |
| 00:15.48 | beth | argonel: .tcl ? |
| 00:15.59 | oslin | beth: funny |
| 00:16.05 | pipegeek | ideas? |
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| 00:16.10 | oslin | anyone ? |
| 00:16.22 | sirReal | oh, it's what i though |
| 00:16.32 | |Predator | in squid I am known but in statistics it denying all my TCP why? |
| 00:16.39 | sirReal | so he's got an IRC bot that executes commands as root? |
| 00:16.39 | raphink | argonel : I tried the command it seems to begin the installation but then I get a mail from CronDaemon saying : hostname does not resolve or 'domain' in inn.conf is missing |
| 00:16.41 | argonel | oh, sorry.. i'm used to most people knowing eggdrop pretty well. eggdrop is an irc bot, it has the ability to execute scripts via tcl from a dcc chat. |
| 00:16.53 | beta3 | argonel: I think the learning python book was a waste |
| 00:17.07 | sirReal | argonel: i've heard of it a million times but never used one in any capacity |
| 00:17.07 | argonel | raphink: you're not using knoppix, are you? |
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| 00:17.20 | bluefox83 | you could try telnetting or ssh'ing into the box as root..when you connect your software should pass the password on automatically |
| 00:17.29 | oslin | if anyone knows what this mean let me know,dh_movefiles: debian/tmp/#DOCS# not found |
| 00:17.42 | argonel | beta3: how come? |
| 00:17.52 | beta3 | argonel: I didn't learn very much from it |
| 00:17.53 | bluefox83 | oslin, no one knows what that means |
| 00:17.56 | raphink | argonel I'm using the 7 CDs set downloaded on debian.org + 1 update CD |
| 00:18.03 | raphink | and I have no previous system |
| 00:18.15 | beta3 | argonel: quite possibly because I am an experienced programmer |
| 00:18.24 | sirReal | hm, no word on what "locked out" means |
| 00:18.33 | oslin | anyidea what #DOCS# is ? |
| 00:18.41 | pipegeek | Well, if nobody knows, could someone please direct me to someone/where that might? It's just that I've been trying to figure this out for days now, with no luck... |
| 00:18.42 | argonel | raphink: well, you catch me at a disadvantage, i've never tried the cd set. it looks like your apt.sources isn't set correctly, or something similar |
| 00:18.49 | bluefox83 | documentation directory perhaps? |
| 00:19.00 | oslin | or where dh_movefiles is getting it from ? |
| 00:19.00 | argonel | raphink: i don't know what is done to get it to refer to the CDs again |
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| 00:19.06 | beth | oslin: I didn't catch what the issue is, but #names like this# are often autosave |
| 00:19.09 | beth | data |
| 00:19.24 | raphink | argonel ok |
| 00:19.29 | petemc | or a way to enclose a regex |
| 00:19.32 | tarzeau | helix: bruck/brugg means bridge... |
| 00:19.33 | raphink | well I'm gonna try to install mandrake then :p |
| 00:19.33 | raphink | lol |
| 00:19.37 | argonel | beta3: thats what i've found with most books of that sort |
| 00:19.40 | intx | yes, it's an eggdrop with tcl bound which lets me execute commands as the user it's running on, which happens to be .. me :) it'd be nice of hosts.allow was somehow managed per a home directory config file, but it isn't.. so, I need to change into root. |
| 00:19.40 | helix | tarzeau: ah. :) |
| 00:19.40 | raphink | I need an OS anyway |
| 00:19.46 | argonel | raphink: hehe. perhaps you should just read some docs :) |
| 00:20.00 | pipegeek | I |
| 00:20.06 | bluefox83 | raphink, try doing a bare install, then apt-get install gnome and kde |
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| 00:20.10 | argonel | intx: so you don't ssl in because... |
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| 00:20.23 | intx | beth: sorry, went to get something to eat.. 'locked out' as in, i can't ssh in because i didn't add this address to hosts.allow |
| 00:20.25 | bluefox83 | it'll give you a choice of what what to use to login |
| 00:20.27 | raphink | bluefox83 you know I'm kind of a newbie |
| 00:20.34 | bluefox83 | try libranet! |
| 00:20.38 | bluefox83 | that's only 1 cd! |
| 00:20.43 | oslin | i compiling sasl and for some reason it stops on that line. I have checked the rules file and I don't know how to correct this error. |
| 00:20.47 | intx | argonel: because this host isn't in hosts.allow |
| 00:20.47 | stevewabc | hello all and thank for your help on that router went with a netgear :) |
| 00:20.49 | oslin | I am |
| 00:20.50 | raphink | I was used to using macos before and just bought a PC, and I just don't want to have any microsoft thing of my machine |
| 00:20.59 | pme | intx: Ya know, a simple shell script run from cron could easily collect host.allow fragments from home directories and concatenate them into the systemwide hosts.allow. It's a freaking gigantic opportunity for security holes, but it'd be easy to do. :-) |
| 00:21.09 | argonel | intx: ok. chmod the hosts.allow file so you can write to it. |
| 00:21.21 | intx | argonel: how? |
| 00:21.26 | bluefox83 | i feel ya, i went straight up linux a few weeks ago.. |
| 00:21.32 | beta3 | argonel: how ever, the C Programming Language, should have had multiple books to understand it |
| 00:21.48 | bluefox83 | intx chmod 777 hosts.allow |
| 00:21.55 | hackeron | CRAP, my epox 8rda+ motherboard just exploded for no reason, similar to this: http://8rda.com/upload/dscn0444.jpg, crappy piece of shit!, beware of epox boards! read the story: http://8rda.com/index_1/Archive.cfml these nforce2 boards are failing for EVERYONE and epox support do not want to grant RMA!! |
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| 00:22.13 | pipegeek | I'm just not sure where to go for help other than here. I'm honestly not sure how to fix this, and I don't know who to ask. It seems like this is the kind of thing that shouldn't be too terribly difficult...who do I ask? I can't find *anything* via google that applies (a few references to something similar on fedora, but the fix wouldn't work in this case). How does one do this? |
| 00:22.15 | beth | intx: you don't have the permissions to do what you want to do, so you either screwed yourself over, or you're just a clueless script kiddie so h4 h4 h4 :) |
| 00:22.15 | beta3 | hackeron: I like SOYO boards |
| 00:22.18 | argonel | beta3: sounds like what i thought of the dragon book |
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| 00:22.37 | intx | beth: if I was a clueless script kiddie, why would I have the root password? |
| 00:22.47 | beth | intx: so you have the root password? |
| 00:22.50 | beta3 | argonel: they tried to keep brevity, but they missed much detail, when writing, they wrote it as if you knew B |
| 00:22.53 | intx | beth: yes |
| 00:22.53 | guk | hey .... what's the file where your internet settings are kept ... I just did a debian install and it did a DHCP setup which is wrong ... |
| 00:22.54 | bluefox83 | pipegeek, whats the problem again? |
| 00:22.58 | Justin_ | intx: i already told you what to do |
| 00:23.02 | intx | beth: it's my machine.. |
| 00:23.08 | tarzeau | guk: resolv.conf and network/interfaces in /etc |
| 00:23.09 | intx | Justin_: sudo isn't installed =/ |
| 00:23.11 | Justin_ | !tell guk about interfaces |
| 00:23.11 | pme | guk: /etc/network/* |
| 00:23.13 | guk | thanks |
| 00:23.18 | hackeron | beta3: hmm, ok, they have a board that takes AMD Athlon XP CPUs? |
| 00:23.21 | Justin_ | intx: i never told you to use sudo |
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| 00:23.29 | pipegeek | bluefox83: Can't modify the Applications menu in Gnome. I get an error box stating "Cannot save menu item to disk--Access denied." |
| 00:23.29 | beta3 | hackeron: a whole line |
| 00:23.36 | beth | intx: so, if you're root, how come you didn't set up your box to let you log in? |
| 00:23.36 | pipegeek | bluefox83: Thanks for helping, btw |
| 00:23.40 | hackeron | beta3: ok, excellent, going to order that, DAMN EPOX! |
| 00:23.41 | bluefox83 | yw |
| 00:23.41 | beth | anyhow, pizza time. |
| 00:23.47 | beta3 | hackeron: what kind of memory do you have already |
| 00:23.48 | pme | mmmmm, pizza |
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| 00:23.58 | tarzeau | i will make pizza tomorrow, now it's 01:23 am |
| 00:23.59 | intx | <intx> Justin_: how? and secondly I think I firewalled off all the ports that aren't already in use.. |
| 00:24.00 | bluefox83 | pipegeek, try to chmod the directory |
| 00:24.07 | bluefox83 | set it to 777 |
| 00:24.07 | intx | beth: because I forgot to add this host, to hosts.allow before I left. |
| 00:24.14 | Justin_ | intx: you "think"? |
| 00:24.23 | beta3 | hackeron: if you are buying a replacement board, look into KT133A, Their K7VTA Pro, which is this one |
| 00:24.29 | beta3 | hackeron: real cheap, nice for the buck |
| 00:24.32 | Justin_ | bluefox83: is chmod 777 your solution to everything? |
| 00:24.37 | intx | Justin_: yes, I think.. I might've left a port open somewhere, but if I did I forget what port it was. |
| 00:24.44 | tarzeau | Justin_: horribly |
| 00:25.03 | bluefox83 | Justin_, it's just how you make something completely accessible by all groups and users |
| 00:25.06 | Justin_ | intx: then make it connect to you |
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| 00:25.14 | intx | Justin_: hmm.. how? |
| 00:25.21 | Justin_ | intx: nc |
| 00:25.23 | pme | bluefox83: I think Justin_ knowd that... |
| 00:25.24 | bluefox83 | of course you could use 444 |
| 00:25.29 | intx | Justin_: and can I do this with a basic.. |
| 00:25.32 | oslin | can anyone answer this question: why do you have to jump through so many hoops to get a package to compile under debian ? |
| 00:25.44 | intx | Justin_: wait.. netcat.. that isn't installed by default, is it? i don't think I installed it.. |
| 00:25.50 | tarzeau | oslin: it's easy |
| 00:25.52 | The_Vulture | oslin: standard response: why do you want to compile a package under debian? |
| 00:25.53 | pme | or, "knows", if you're into that whole "spelling things correctly" scene. |
| 00:26.04 | pipegeek | bluefox83: :^( I'm not sure which. It's only given as 'applications:/Internet/test.desktop', and find -name "Internet" terns up nothing in both ~ and /etc |
| 00:26.06 | intx | wait.. I did! yes! :) |
| 00:26.07 | tarzeau | oslin: a source package or a debian source package? |
| 00:26.13 | hackeron | beta3: I dont need serial ata or any onboard crap, so whatever is cheaper and lowest CPU usage for hard drive access, oh, and most importantly, I don't want it going up in smoke after a year |
| 00:26.14 | oslin | source |
| 00:26.15 | tarzeau | oslin: you must be doing something horribly wrong |
| 00:26.25 | tarzeau | oslin: ./configure ; make ; make install ? |
| 00:26.28 | Sinistrad | pme, I wasn't aware that "spelling things correctly" was a scene ... |
| 00:26.29 | oslin | not that i can see anyway |
| 00:26.29 | The_Vulture | oslin: then you compile it like you would on any other platform., nothing to do with debian |
| 00:26.30 | intx | Justin_: nc is netcat, right? how do I route a shell into netcat? |
| 00:26.31 | pme | oslin: If you're having to jump through hoops, then you're going about it the wrong way. What're you trying to do? |
| 00:26.32 | tarzeau | oslin: it's no different anywhere else |
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| 00:26.35 | The_Vulture | see any what? |
| 00:26.40 | beta3 | hackeron: what kind of memory do you have? answer me! |
| 00:26.44 | Justin_ | intx: read its manual? |
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| 00:26.53 | oslin | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot |
| 00:26.58 | beta3 | hackeron: so I can give you a board reccomendation |
| 00:27.03 | tarzeau | oslin: debuild would work too |
| 00:27.06 | The_Vulture | oslin: sounds like a debian package.. |
| 00:27.09 | intx | they teach you that in the manual? hmm |
| 00:27.11 | tarzeau | oslin: but that is only for debian source packages |
| 00:27.11 | pme | Sinistrad: Seems to be a passing fad, but maybe I'm just getting old. |
| 00:27.16 | tarzeau | oslin: you said only source packages |
| 00:27.21 | tarzeau | oslin: what are you exactly trying to do? |
| 00:27.35 | tarzeau | oslin: a) you want to package something? b) you want to compile some source |
| 00:27.36 | bluefox83 | pipegeek, your trying to change the icons on your desktop? |
| 00:27.40 | hackeron | beta3: woah, relax |
| 00:27.42 | thebug | tarzeau: it sounds like he's trying to debianize some non-deb sources |
| 00:27.52 | hackeron | beta3: I have the TwinMOS 2 x 512Mb PC3200 cas2,3,6 |
| 00:27.55 | oslin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.00 | tarzeau | thebug: it sounds like he's no clue |
| 00:28.06 | hackeron | beta3: cas2.0,2,3,6 I mean |
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| 00:28.13 | Justin_ | !+info gentoo |
| 00:28.13 | tarzeau | oslin: www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/debian-packaging/ |
| 00:28.15 | dpkg | gentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.46-1 (sid), Packaged size: 741 kB, Installed size: 2356 kB |
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| 00:28.18 | thebug | tarzeau: well, that was assumed...it seems like a fair shair of people today are of that persuasion |
| 00:28.29 | The_Vulture | oslin: what are you trying to achieve? |
| 00:28.30 | tarzeau | thebug: the problem is he can't say what he really wants |
| 00:28.34 | The_Vulture | what problem are you trying to solve? |
| 00:28.37 | tarzeau | thebug: that is a problem of communication... |
| 00:28.47 | The_Vulture | s/shair/share/ |
| 00:28.51 | pipegeek | bluefox83: no. In the applications menu. |
| 00:28.54 | oslin | well i have test box and a build box so i want to build packages and test them on the other machine .... |
| 00:28.55 | tarzeau | tempo: sometimes i wish i could read mind... |
| 00:29.05 | thebug | tarzeau: true enough |
| 00:29.11 | hackeron | beta3: I'm just looking for more info about what happened to me, its a major inconvinience as you can imagine :(, I was just about to power up the machine to transfer CRUCIAL data to my new via mini-itx barebone, now I need to take it appart and move hard drive across, major pain in the arse |
| 00:29.28 | The_Vulture | oslin: what packages do you want to build and why do you want to build them? |
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| 00:29.41 | pipegeek | bluefox83: find -name "*.desktop" in ~ wasn't helpful--I found a few .desktop files for openoffice in .gnome2/vfolders/applications, and nothing else |
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| 00:29.52 | intx | Justin_: it's not in the manual.. but if I'm not mistaken, nc 5.5.5.5 10000 < sh would work? |
| 00:30.00 | guk | one more quicky ... what's the file with DNS servers in it ? |
| 00:30.02 | Justin_ | intx: of course it is in the manual |
| 00:30.09 | The_Vulture | guk: /etc/resolv.conf |
| 00:30.12 | guk | thanks |
| 00:30.26 | intx | Justin_: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/html/nc.1.html not in the manual |
| 00:30.31 | beta3 | hackeron: for 60 bucks buy a k7vta pro |
| 00:30.38 | oslin | The_Vulture: to figure out how debian works. |
| 00:31.00 | Justin_ | intx: random files on apple.com is not "the manual" |
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| 00:31.04 | hackeron | beta3: ok, sounds good :), I hope its all passively cooled? no fan on northbridge? |
| 00:31.13 | pipegeek | bluefox83: and that folder is chmod'ed 600, btw. I aught to be able to modify it. |
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| 00:31.28 | beta3 | hackeron: its a very small chipset fan |
| 00:31.34 | intx | Justin_: i don't have access to the actual manual because I can't get into the machine |
| 00:31.39 | beta3 | hackeron: the picture shows it with a heatsink tho |
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| 00:31.52 | bluefox83 | pipegeek, i dunno, i always manage to modify it the way i want it, then forget how i did it in the first place |
| 00:31.58 | beta3 | hackeron: its probably worth your money to buy a 5 dollar heatsink |
| 00:32.00 | hackeron | beta3: no, I don't want no fans on the motherboard, just on CPU |
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| 00:32.10 | hackeron | beta3: hmm, possibly |
| 00:32.20 | argonel | intx: man -P cat netcat |
| 00:32.31 | beta3 | hackeron: I don't have that issue, I have liquid nitrogen cooling |
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| 00:32.42 | pipegeek | bluefox83: gosh darn it. Seems that this should be awfully easy. And it's not an issue of getting it how I want it, but of letting the future users of the system get it how they want it |
| 00:33.22 | bluefox83 | pipegeek, i think you can look through the debian menu and click things and tell it to go on the applications list.. |
| 00:33.56 | beta3 | hackeron: water cooling offered issue of condensation, I switched to liquid nitrogen, since the condensation would just freeze, if there would be any |
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| 00:34.10 | Orlino | how do I view all the process and how much memory they are taking up |
| 00:34.11 | hackeron | beta3: errr, you have link to this kind of extreme cooling solutions? |
| 00:34.11 | pipegeek | bluefox83: well, thankee anyway ^_^ |
| 00:34.11 | pipegeek | anyone else? |
| 00:34.11 | hackeron | beta3: I've only heard of frion cooling, liquid nitrogen must be really expensive, and you surely need a license to handle it unlike frion |
| 00:34.12 | hackeron | beta3: so what, you get -150c or something? |
| 00:34.12 | argonel | hackeron: *freon* |
| 00:34.12 | hackeron | argonel: sorry, my spelling sucks :) |
| 00:34.16 | intx | it's still not in the manual, I tell you :) |
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| 00:34.28 | beta3 | hackeron: other way around |
| 00:34.31 | hackeron | beta3: how did you manage that? you have a license? |
| 00:34.43 | beta3 | hackeron: liquid nitrogen is easy to get at your chemical supply store |
| 00:35.05 | hackeron | beta3: errr, freon is the stuff used in fridges, liquid nitrogen is about 100c lower |
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| 00:35.13 | pipegeek | bluefox83: doesn't seem so--though I can certainly add things to the panel that way. |
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| 00:35.18 | beta3 | hackeron: no license, not too expensive, its not dangerous, because majority your air is 80% of it |
| 00:35.21 | hackeron | beta3: so what cpu temprature you get? |
| 00:35.27 | beta3 | hackeron: 45C |
| 00:35.28 | azreal | anyone know whats going on with netinst via pppoe in debian-installer? if i remeber it wasnt happening, does that mean that pppoe users have to download the whole cd image? |
| 00:35.30 | hackeron | beta3: -100c? |
| 00:35.34 | beta3 | -45C |
| 00:35.34 | argonel | hackeron: its ok, they don't use freon anymore :) its probably R134-A |
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| 00:35.56 | bluefox83 | why is it linux developers forget to do the most basic stuff like let you edit your applications list |
| 00:35.57 | hackeron | beta3: thats weak for liquid nitrogen, very weak... you should get atleast -100c... |
| 00:35.58 | Justin_ | i thought it was 70% |
| 00:35.59 | azreal | im assumeing someone will hack a netinst cd too, but im just curious |
| 00:36.09 | hackeron | argonel: ah, right :), still not liquid nitrogen though |
| 00:36.12 | beta3 | hackeron: oops, sorry looking at wrong box |
| 00:36.18 | plugwash | i wouldn't recomend netinst to newbies anyway |
| 00:36.23 | beta3 | hackeron: a few vnc displays open |
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| 00:36.28 | hackeron | beta3: lol |
| 00:36.32 | beta3 | hackeron: I was looking at the antifreeze box |
| 00:36.33 | azreal | plugwash: im not a newbie |
| 00:36.50 | hackeron | beta3: antifreeze should only get you about -5c |
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| 00:36.55 | argonel | intx: you're right, it doesn't say "here is how to get netcat to run a shell". do manpages ever really say anything like that? |
| 00:36.56 | drx | Im trying to do "make menuconfig" when compiling kernel 2.4.25 but i get Unable to find Ncurses libraries una, what package do i need to install ? |
| 00:37.01 | beta3 | hackeron: its a mega mix |
| 00:37.11 | plugwash | imo it's better to have a full cd1 which should be enough to get a system running and ready for tweaking to match whatever weired internet connection you have |
| 00:37.13 | beta3 | hackeron: with a heavy duty hospital laser radiator |
| 00:37.15 | steven | where can i get an example of the /etc/apt/sources.list so i can get packages from the internet |
| 00:37.24 | sollust | drx: libncurses and such... |
| 00:37.26 | steven | or how can i install packages from the internet |
| 00:37.44 | sollust | drx: do an "apt-cache search ncurses" see what you find |
| 00:37.56 | drx | sollust: allot of packages |
| 00:38.12 | argonel | steven: man sources.list |
| 00:38.27 | hackeron | beta3: antifreeze goes down to -15c, real CPU temprature is normally 0c to -5c |
| 00:38.42 | beta3 | argonel: liquid nitrogen box pulls -97C |
| 00:38.46 | sollust | drx: this is where the sys-admin in you has to come out :-) |
| 00:38.59 | drx | sollust: hehe okej |
| 00:39.01 | beta3 | hackeron: I got some special stuff, made to work in down to -90C |
| 00:39.01 | yangsx | I want to report a problem: upgrade to 4.3.0-7 freezes the mouse of my xserver of my laptop. |
| 00:39.05 | sollust | drx: try a few things that look reasonable |
| 00:39.09 | pipegeek | There has *got* to be a way to fix this! Is the gnome menu system handled by the debian menu system? |
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| 00:39.23 | yangsx | though it works fine on my desktop unstable. |
| 00:39.25 | beta3 | hackeron: the radiator was used for cooling 10000 degree lasers |
| 00:39.26 | hackeron | beta3: unless you have a really high concentration, then its a poor conductor, then the antifreeze can be at most -35c, but CPU temprature will be like 5c |
| 00:39.26 | argonel | steven: you'll find the mirrors at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 00:39.30 | pipegeek | I mmean, this seems like a pretty serious useability problem |
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| 00:39.40 | thebug | pipegeek: have you ever considered #gnome ? |
| 00:39.48 | beta3 | hackeron: got it from chemical supply store also |
| 00:39.52 | argonel | beta3: i don't see the point in getting a system that cold |
| 00:39.56 | yangsx | which had the wheel mouse freezed with previous version. |
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| 00:40.16 | pipegeek | thebug: did. Spent time there, too. No luck there either, but it occured to me this might have something to do with the way that debian handles menus |
| 00:40.22 | argonel | yangsx: are you using gpm? |
| 00:40.24 | beta3 | argonel: when you have 17 boxes in one room, the heat in here is +20 degrees hotter than the rest of the house |
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| 00:40.37 | bluefox83 | holly cow, yahoo makes getting their messanger easy and all you do is run dpkg -i <package> |
| 00:40.50 | bluefox83 | who needs gaim! |
| 00:40.51 | bluefox83 | lol |
| 00:40.55 | yangsx | argonel: yes. |
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| 00:41.02 | XsupEr_MaN | can someone help me with a c++ program...i will give them anything...plezz |
| 00:41.03 | beta3 | argonel: the liquid nitrogen cooling is super rigged overclocked dual athlon |
| 00:41.14 | intx | su: must be run from a terminal |
| 00:41.18 | intx | arrrghhh |
| 00:41.18 | argonel | yangsx: i've had similar problems with older releases with gpm. getting rid of it also got rid of the problem |
| 00:41.18 | mentor | bluefox83: Is it free? |
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| 00:41.25 | bluefox83 | mentor, yup! |
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| 00:41.41 | mentor | bluefox83: As in DFSG? |
| 00:41.45 | bluefox83 | it's on their messanger download page, in the unix section |
| 00:41.53 | bluefox83 | DFSG? O.o |
| 00:41.58 | argonel | intx: so, you don't have root, then? |
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| 00:42.18 | mentor | ~tell bluefox83 about dfsg |
| 00:42.24 | RAR | How can I send all output of the command "foo bar" to /dev/null? (i dont want it to put any messages in my console whatsoever) |
| 00:42.33 | sirReal | mentor: now *there's* an appropriate usage =D |
| 00:42.33 | yangsx | argonel: thanks, let me try that. My laptop uses touchpad PS/2 mouse. The interesting thing is Debian cannot work correct with my laptop and desktop at the same time. |
| 00:42.33 | intx | argonel: well, that depends on what you mean by that. |
| 00:42.35 | beta3 | argonel: every thing in the board is hooked to the cooler |
| 00:42.40 | beware | programname > /dev/null 2>&1 |
| 00:42.42 | beta3 | argonel: including hard drives |
| 00:42.54 | RAR | beware: thanks |
| 00:42.57 | bluefox83 | uh..i dunno..i would think so.. |
| 00:43.02 | mentor | sirReal: Grr. Grammar is important! |
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| 00:43.15 | intx | argonel: I don't have root, because I can't switch user into root, but I do know the root password and I am so called 'admin/owner' of the machine |
| 00:43.21 | mentor | bluefox83: Does it have source? |
| 00:43.37 | intx | and 'so called' because I can't even get into my own machine. |
| 00:43.50 | argonel | beta3: but only one machine uses the nitro cooler? |
| 00:43.51 | sirReal | mentor: only as important as being able to understand what one means imo... but DFSG trumps all |
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| 00:44.19 | steven | argonel: do you know some free repocitory |
| 00:44.26 | argonel | intx: where did you get the su error from? |
| 00:44.38 | argonel | steven: umm.. all of them? |
| 00:44.44 | beta3 | argonel: no, two |
| 00:45.02 | intx | argonel: what Justin_ told me to do |
| 00:45.12 | argonel | intx: oh, the netcat thing? |
| 00:45.16 | intx | yes |
| 00:45.20 | Justin_ | hmm |
| 00:45.22 | steven | argonel: can you print some of your lines in source.list |
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| 00:46.01 | argonel | steven: deb http://debian.teleglobe.net/ stable main contrib non-free |
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| 00:46.06 | Justin_ | intx: does screen run? |
| 00:46.27 | Justin_ | guess not, oh well:) |
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| 00:46.44 | steven | argonel: thanls |
| 00:46.51 | bluefox83 | yahoo messanger is available in the apt repository as "ymessenger" |
| 00:46.51 | steven | *thanks |
| 00:47.06 | bst | For base-config to be happy I need to set a FQDN. I'm not able to do it by editing /etc/hosts, what am I doing wrong? |
| 00:47.09 | mentor | ~info ymessenger |
| 00:47.12 | bluefox83 | so yes, it does fall under the debian doohickey |
| 00:47.21 | argonel | intx: you're just trying to modify hosts.allow so you can log in via ssl? |
| 00:47.23 | mentor | bluefox83: Not necessarily. |
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| 00:47.27 | intx | argonel: yes. |
| 00:47.30 | pipegeek | :'^( |
| 00:47.50 | bluefox83 | you think they'd put it in the repository if it didn't fit the criteria? |
| 00:47.51 | intx | by any chance, are any of you on rogers? |
| 00:47.55 | argonel | intx: and you are able to execute one command as root from the bot? |
| 00:48.12 | intx | argonel: not as root, as 'intx' cause the bot runs as 'intx' |
| 00:48.20 | steven | argonel: is that url free, or what the non-free means |
| 00:48.26 | bst | I need a FQDN. I have been able to set it manually, I just can't remember how I did it. Any suggestions? |
| 00:48.31 | intx | rogers.com (the isp) and don't mind lending me a temporary shell or a redirection? |
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| 00:48.45 | bluefox83 | intx, when you want to run more than one command at the same time use | between them |
| 00:48.47 | mentor | bluefox83: It would go in the non-free section if it wasn't DFSG free, but could be distributed. |
| 00:48.47 | argonel | steven: the non-free means that packages that are not DFSG-compliant are available |
| 00:49.14 | mentor | bluefox83: umm, no...when you want to run one command from the output of another command you do that. |
| 00:49.28 | steven | argonel: ah thabnks man |
| 00:49.31 | bluefox83 | oh..heh.. |
| 00:49.47 | bluefox83 | can you use && ? |
| 00:49.58 | dondelelcaro | bst: your fqdn is set by /etc/hosts. |
| 00:50.03 | mentor | bluefox83: Well, that would make the command depend on the previous one. |
| 00:50.11 | bluefox83 | i see |
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| 00:50.22 | bst | dondelelcaro: This won't work: 127.0.0.1 localhost name.domain.se |
| 00:50.24 | bluefox83 | i'm learning mor eand more in here ^_^ |
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| 00:50.35 | sophistication | porkchop sandwich |
| 00:50.39 | bluefox83 | so much better than my first debian teachers..they had no patience, i swear |
| 00:50.52 | dondelelcaro | bst: yes it will work. |
| 00:50.53 | mentor | ummm...I can't find a package called yahooo messenger |
| 00:51.13 | bluefox83 | it's ymessenger |
| 00:51.24 | bluefox83 | not yahoo messenger |
| 00:51.29 | mentor | ummm...I can't find a package called ymessenger |
| 00:51.38 | bluefox83 | show me what you used |
| 00:51.58 | bst | dondelelcaro: 127.0.0.1 surfdator.dsv.su.se localhost --> hostname: Unknown host (am I missing something obvious?) |
| 00:52.01 | bluefox83 | i used apt-cache search ymessenger |
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| 00:52.05 | mentor | bluefox83: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ymessenger&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all |
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| 00:52.19 | mentor | bluefox83: Yes....but you probably have the package installed. |
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| 00:52.26 | vasi | is it ok for a Packages.gz to contain multiple versions of the same package? |
| 00:52.30 | dondelelcaro | bst: hostname returns your hostname, which is surfdator |
| 00:52.33 | thomas_adam | mentor: You have to download it from yahoo. |
| 00:52.33 | bluefox83 | oh..ya i do actually..i just installed it.. |
| 00:52.35 | steven | argonel: can you give me one repocitory where i can find the kernel 2.4.22 |
| 00:52.45 | bst | dondelelcaro: I did hostname --fqdn |
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| 00:52.46 | bluefox83 | i didn't think it would show up in that though |
| 00:52.49 | dondelelcaro | bst: you have to set it by typing hostname surfdator. Your FQDN is returned by typing hostname --fqdn |
| 00:53.16 | peterS | vasi: dpkg-scanpackages, which builds Packages.gz, automatically removes duplicates |
| 00:53.33 | argonel | steven: are you using woody? |
| 00:53.49 | mentor | thomas_adam: Is it DFSG compliant? |
| 00:54.12 | phug | why is my dvd playback so jumpy? I just switched from RH/Fedora not long ago, and it was very smooth there. what's different? |
| 00:54.13 | bst | dondelelcaro: As I said, I did run hostname --fqdn, which gave the above error message. And I have set my hostname using hostname. I don't get what I'm doing wrong. |
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| 00:54.22 | steven | argonel: yes but with kernel 2.4.1 |
| 00:54.30 | dondelelcaro | bst: and just typing hostname returns surfdator, right? |
| 00:54.46 | bst | dondelelcaro: Yes |
| 00:54.52 | argonel | steven: well, 2.4.22 isn't available as a woody package, but something newer should be |
| 00:54.57 | sollust | dondelelcaro: just wanted to let you know what the problem was with my XFS filesystem bootup problem from the other night |
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| 00:55.32 | tempo | how do i add flash to mozilla-firebird? |
| 00:55.34 | steven | argonel: so how can i install that kernel |
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| 00:55.51 | heath | Hey, have you guys seen a problem with firefox where it locks up and uses 100% CPU when you use the spacebar to check/uncheck checkboxes? |
| 00:55.56 | bluefox83 | http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html#debian |
| 00:56.01 | argonel | steven: looks like 2.4.19 is the newest available for woody |
| 00:56.02 | bluefox83 | you can get ymessenger there |
| 00:56.10 | dondelelcaro | bst: well, then either you've munged your /etc/host.conf so it's not searching hosts first, or you're not calling hostname appropriately. |
| 00:56.10 | sollust | dondelelcaro: XFS doesn't recognize the "errors" option...I took it out, and everything is just fine |
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| 00:56.49 | dondelelcaro | sollust: oh, the errors option to mount? hrm. That's probably a bug... theres no reason for it not to know to remount itself ro on errors... |
| 00:56.50 | bst | dondelelcaro: I've chrooted from Knoppix, that might screw something up. But I believe I have removed any old symlinks to Knoppix |
| 00:57.07 | sollust | tempo: I think there's a debian package for it that you can apt-get, or get from flash.com |
| 00:57.31 | bluefox83 | tempo, apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla |
| 00:57.39 | mentor | Looks distinctly non-free, so anyone who cares about DFSG needs gaim.... |
| 00:57.50 | sollust | dondelelcaro: actually, I came across an XFS on linux howto at tldp.org, and XFS doesn't have that option |
| 00:57.52 | dondelelcaro | bst: uh, why the hell are you chrooted into a debian system from knoppix? there are so many things wrong with doing that that it's not suprising that you're having issues... |
| 00:58.05 | bst | dondelelcaro: I'm installing it with debootstrap |
| 00:58.07 | dondelelcaro | sollust: it might not, but it doesn't mean that it's not a bug... |
| 00:58.10 | yangsx | argonel: sorry, I found out that my laptop does not have gpm installed whereas my laptop does. |
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| 00:58.12 | tempo | bluefox83, thanks |
| 00:58.19 | bluefox83 | your welcome |
| 00:58.32 | argonel|food | yangsx: your laptop doesn't where as your laptop does? |
| 00:58.38 | sollust | dondelelcaro: I wonder if other journaled filesystems have the same thing...I'll check |
| 00:59.05 | dondelelcaro | bst: yeah, but you do the installation using deboostrap then chroot... regardless, hostname --fqdn shouldn't be returning unknown host if it's been set in /etc/hosts and the resolver is working correctly. |
| 00:59.48 | bst | dondelelcaro: I know I've run into this problem before, and I fixed it then. I just can't remember how I did it :-| |
| 01:00.05 | yangsx | argonel: my laptop doesn't have gpm and the mouse freezes with the new version of xserver on debian unstable. |
| 01:00.35 | bst | dondelelcaro: Thanks for the help anyway. |
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| 01:01.26 | yangsx | argonel: whereas my desktop does have gpm installed and it works fine with the new version of xserver though not with previous version (but kernel 2.4.24 is fine with previous version of xserver). |
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| 01:01.47 | yangsx | argonel: thus there seems some interaction between xserver and kernel. |
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| 01:04.12 | Parn | http://www.cbk.no/produkter/drivere/d-link/Techdocs/pdf/de200.pdf |
| 01:04.15 | Parn | god bless google |
| 01:04.47 | run_apt | what's the debian-installer irc channel? |
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| 01:05.18 | eule | hi all... can somebody help me with ip tables??? urgent |
| 01:05.21 | gravity | run_apt: #debian-boot |
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| 01:06.16 | sgeigerbot | eule: If it were truly urgent, you would ask the question, not ask to ask the question. Don't ask to ask...just ask. The Ask-To-Ask Protocol v 1.0 wastes more bandwidth than any version of the Ask Protocol. (~ask-to-ask) |
| 01:06.19 | algo_ | i have a wierd problem. I have tried to compile my own kernels or with kernel-image-2.6.4-k7-1 in debian unstable, but the alsa drivers never get loaded..alot of error messages gets spammed in dmesg and syslog and so on... have a look on www.algo.dk/misc/ the file 1.0 is /etc/alsa/modutils/1.0 and dmesg also there.. |
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| 01:07.36 | algo_ | my configuration is Sblive (emu10k1) and onboard via82xx audio controller, plus built-in mic in a Logitech Quickcam 3000 pro |
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| 01:10.10 | eule | sgeigerbot: ok sorry: well my problem: internal lan 192.168.1.0 comes to my debian box (traffic accounting) with 2 nics (eth1 192.168.1.1, eth0 172.16.0.2). Packets should go through and should come to my cisco router which should do the nat thing... no masquerading is needed! what is the rule for this! thx a lot |
| 01:10.13 | argonel|food | yangsx: all i can suggest is that you search for bugs |
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| 01:10.43 | philips | I am looking for an X11 menu handler that does a 2d layout of items, not just a list, has anyone heard of something like this? |
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| 01:11.20 | netangel | hi |
| 01:11.27 | netangel | I've got that msg from apt : |
| 01:11.34 | netangel | E: Couldn't configure pre-depend initscripts for sysvinit, probably a dependency cycle |
| 01:11.54 | thebug | netangel: /topic |
| 01:11.59 | netangel | and I cant halt or reboot or shutdown my computer ... :/ |
| 01:12.08 | netangel | thebug, allready done... |
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| 01:12.23 | thebug | obviously not |
| 01:13.16 | netangel | thebug: I've already done dpgk --force-all --remove sysvinit |
| 01:13.22 | eule | sgeigerbot: now I have activated masquerading with iptables -t nat -i POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE. This was enough for so long, but now a customer wants to have an official ip address, so I have to pass the ips to the router to do the translation there, isn't it? |
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| 01:13.29 | netangel | and apt-get -f install |
| 01:13.37 | enntee | Does anyone know of a good howto or some way of installing reiserfs on debian? I'm preferably looking for a way other than initially installing ext2 and then reformatting and copying the base system back over. |
| 01:13.41 | netangel | but the error still remain |
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| 01:14.05 | netangel | enntee, boot with "bf24" |
| 01:14.19 | netangel | with the debian-cd |
| 01:14.40 | enntee | netangel: excellent. thanks |
| 01:14.41 | netangel | it is available on the netinstall cd |
| 01:14.47 | enntee | awesome |
| 01:14.48 | netangel | (at least ;) |
| 01:15.46 | enntee | netangel: net-install is the same as minimal right? |
| 01:16.14 | trans_err | what package contains nc? |
| 01:16.21 | netangel | mmh I think yes :) |
| 01:16.24 | Justin_ | !tell trans_err about search |
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| 01:17.07 | Vladkao | Justin_: you have to set this on alias ;) |
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| 01:17.32 | netangel | and how do we fix the sysv cycle ? |
| 01:17.44 | netangel | 'cause the dpkg bot dont help me very much... |
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| 01:18.41 | SpAc | hey, ready for a totally newbie question? When replying to a message in a mailing list ie. Mailman. How come my replies always start a new thread. What is it that tells mailman the thread you are replying too (apart from the subject which i always have as RE: OrginalSubject)?? |
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| 01:19.38 | romulo | wich packages i need to get hp deskjet 660c(paralel) under linux? |
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| 01:20.34 | shadows | romulo, hpjis? |
| 01:20.39 | shadows | err.. whatever it was called |
| 01:20.46 | shadows | gimp-print drivers only sort of work |
| 01:20.58 | eule | romulo look at: http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 01:22.26 | Forastero | hi |
| 01:22.46 | Vladkao | hello |
| 01:22.50 | Forastero | I have allready installed flash plugins in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugns |
| 01:23.05 | Forastero | but, mozilla dont find them |
| 01:23.10 | Forastero | I am using sarge |
| 01:23.14 | Forastero | Linux wildness 2.6.4 #3 Sun Mar 21 00:57:16 CET 2004 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 01:23.23 | Forastero | xD |
| 01:23.30 | Forastero | someone with same problem? |
| 01:24.15 | netangel | and how do we fix the sysv cycle ? |
| 01:24.22 | netangel | and how do we fix the sysv cycle ? |
| 01:24.26 | eule | again my problem: internal lan 192.168.1.0 comes to my debian box (traffic accounting) with 2 nics (eth1 192.168.1.1, eth0 172.16.0.2). Packets should go through and should come to my cisco router which should do the nat thing... no masquerading is needed! what is the rule for this! thx a lot |
| 01:24.27 | netangel | oops sorry |
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| 01:25.27 | xerophyte | can you do this "system("dd","if=/dev/zero","of=/usr/tmpDSK","bs=1024","count=256000");" with perl and add /etc/fstab to auto mount automatically when it boots ? |
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| 01:26.06 | Qapf | hi, i just rant a dist upgrade on my sid box and now when kde tries to start, xlib says that there is no protocall specified, so it cant open the display. and loading of gnome or kde fails |
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| 01:26.54 | Qapf | any idea what the hell this means and how to fix it? |
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| 01:27.42 | rasins | I need a bit of help setting up a connection. I see eth0 in ifconfig -a |
| 01:27.44 | thomas_adam | Qapf: Yes, export DISPLAY=:0.0 && startkde |
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| 01:28.07 | thebug | rasins: perhaps man interfaces? |
| 01:28.24 | rasins | k |
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| 01:28.39 | petemc | Qapf: check the BTS |
| 01:29.10 | Overl0rd | what is the best way to have windows access a directory on my box via the network |
| 01:29.14 | thomas_adam | petemc: I really must stop assuming that people check the BTS *before* asking a question! |
| 01:29.36 | Qapf | thomas_adam when i run that it says no protocall is specified, can not open display |
| 01:29.45 | petemc | thomas_adam: most dont, unfortunately |
| 01:29.55 | Qapf | ahh |
| 01:29.57 | Qapf | hi topic |
| 01:29.58 | thomas_adam | Qapf: do check the BTS |
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| 01:30.18 | FieldySnuts | !topicsmite Qapf |
| 01:30.18 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon Qapf. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 01:30.24 | nevyn | Overl0rd: which windows? |
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| 01:30.40 | romulo | i dont see a parallel option under cups...i have to use serial? |
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| 01:30.47 | nevyn | Overl0rd: if <server 2003 then samba else ftp/http/something else |
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| 01:31.10 | Qapf | there are no bugs filed against Xlib |
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| 01:31.41 | nevyn | romulo: you can use parallel printers with cups. |
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| 01:32.34 | thomas_adam | Qapf: The error is usually caused by bad perms, on /dev/console, but which Xserver usually sorts out anyhow. |
| 01:32.46 | romulo | nevyn, how?? |
| 01:33.16 | romulo | nevyn, in the port select screen doesnt have a parallel driver |
| 01:33.18 | Qapf | thomas_adam any way to fix? |
| 01:33.22 | Powerkill | hi, how to run a cron every hour but at 1:30 2:30 3:30 ... ? |
| 01:33.22 | romulo | just usb, serial and stuff |
| 01:33.41 | thomas_adam | Qapf: Perhaps. Can you startx as user 'root' ok? |
| 01:33.44 | nevyn | romulo: do you have parallel port support loaded in your kernel? |
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| 01:34.08 | thomas_adam | Powerkill: * */30 * * /some/app |
| 01:34.11 | romulo | nevyn, yeah.. |
| 01:34.20 | thomas_adam | opps |
| 01:34.24 | thomas_adam | Powerkill: * */30 * * * /some/app |
| 01:34.32 | Qapf | thomas_adam i am running gdm right now |
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| 01:34.37 | Qapf | it only fails when starting a windows manager |
| 01:34.39 | Powerkill | thanks :) |
| 01:35.02 | nevyn | romulo: it should show up in cups then. |
| 01:35.18 | thomas_adam | np. |
| 01:35.39 | romulo | nevyn, that sux, ill check and recompile the kernel, reboot and try again..than you very much |
| 01:35.51 | netangel | heeeey |
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| 01:35.56 | nevyn | recompile the kernel? |
| 01:36.02 | nevyn | you built your own kernel? |
| 01:36.13 | netangel | is there anyone who just pass from woody to sid and who had pb with sysvinit ???!! |
| 01:36.14 | thomas_adam | Qapf: which WM? |
| 01:36.33 | netangel | I didnt found the way to solve my pb |
| 01:36.40 | Qapf | thomas_adam normally kde, but i tried gnome and xsession, even failsafe's fail to load |
| 01:36.40 | romulo | nevyn, im building the support as module now |
| 01:36.46 | romulo | nevyn, cause it was like yes |
| 01:37.38 | nevyn | the bidirectional stuff? |
| 01:38.17 | Qapf | all their xsession files say the same error, xlib reporting no protocall |
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| 01:39.30 | netangel | is there anyone who just pass from woody to sid and who had pb with sysvinit ???!! |
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| 01:39.40 | idnarhtim | !ep |
| 01:39.40 | dpkg | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:40.06 | netangel | okay |
| 01:40.08 | damog | XD |
| 01:40.15 | netangel | and then? |
| 01:40.22 | netangel | :'( |
| 01:40.25 | idnarhtim | !tell netangel about polls |
| 01:40.28 | damog | dpkg: I love you. |
| 01:40.29 | dpkg | The feeling's not mutual |
| 01:40.39 | idnarhtim | haha |
| 01:40.39 | damog | :) |
| 01:40.42 | mdc | haha |
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| 01:41.09 | Qapf | thomas_adam ? |
| 01:41.10 | helix | netangel: yeah, a lot of people have had that problem.. maybe check the bts? |
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| 01:41.32 | netangel | helix, it's checked... |
| 01:41.33 | netangel | :/ |
| 01:41.36 | helix | hmm |
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| 01:41.48 | helix | i wish i knew how to help you. it sounds like a really bad problem. |
| 01:41.49 | netangel | and there is no solution... and I have no shutdown command or reboot or else :/ |
| 01:41.57 | netangel | sure it is :/ |
| 01:42.15 | helix | netangel: hmm.. i can check my logs; i saw someone help another person with the same problem not too long ago |
| 01:42.20 | netangel | I dont even know if I will manage to reboot the next time... |
| 01:42.40 | netangel | it was me I think... about 2 hours ago |
| 01:42.50 | helix | did you have another nick? |
| 01:42.58 | helix | er. hm maybe it was you |
| 01:43.05 | bnoji | what happened? |
| 01:43.24 | OblivionO | I have an orinoco wifi 802.11b integrated into a sony laptop.. I installed the 'orinoco' module in the kernel but nothing's showing up in ifconfig, anyone else run into problems like this with laptop and/or sony wifi's? |
| 01:43.29 | netangel | nop, I use only netangel |
| 01:43.33 | netangel | or net_angel |
| 01:43.40 | helix | OblivionO: try orinoco_cs |
| 01:43.43 | netangel | in fact my apt brocked... |
| 01:43.55 | SpArTaK | hi i have an nfs export to /storage which is /dev/md1 and under /storage/old i have mounted /dev/md0 when browse through nfs i see nothing in /storage/old is there a way to make it expord that device too ? |
| 01:44.03 | OblivionO | helix: where can I find that? |
| 01:44.10 | netangel | "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend initscripts for sysvinit, probably a dependency cycle. |
| 01:44.10 | netangel | " |
| 01:44.16 | helix | OblivionO: it's in the default kernel. |
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| 01:44.30 | bob2 | netangel: uh, /topic? |
| 01:44.34 | netangel | and then, I did what dpkg bot told me |
| 01:44.40 | netangel | and then... nothin' |
| 01:44.45 | netangel | I could install other packages |
| 01:44.48 | netangel | but not sysvinit |
| 01:44.50 | netangel | .... |
| 01:44.50 | bnoji | netangel: i had that problem |
| 01:44.53 | bnoji | its not hard to fix |
| 01:44.54 | netangel | \o/ |
| 01:44.57 | netangel | ooow!! |
| 01:45.01 | netangel | how ? ^^ |
| 01:45.03 | |Predator | on squid while I used "acl PlaYnet src 80.76.62.16/28" and "http_access allow PlaYnet" it still won't allow me to connect through the proxy |
| 01:45.06 | bnoji | upgrading from woody to sid? |
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| 01:45.09 | bob2 | you really followed ALL the instructions and it didn't work? |
| 01:45.10 | netangel | yes |
| 01:45.11 | OblivionO | helix: yes, that's been installed in the kernel, not working though |
| 01:45.12 | bob2 | word-f-r-word? |
| 01:45.15 | bnoji | upgrade to sarge first |
| 01:45.17 | netangel | yes bob2 |
| 01:45.17 | bnoji | then to sid |
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| 01:45.26 | helix | OblivionO: did you modprobe it? |
| 01:45.27 | bnoji | its a pain but the deps go in the proper order that way |
| 01:45.36 | bahadunn | im looking for a content management system, any recommendations? |
| 01:45.40 | OblivionO | helix: I don't use modules, I compiled everything into the kernel |
| 01:45.41 | netangel | mmh... I just replace stable with unstable in apt-source.list |
| 01:45.49 | helix | OblivionO: oh. umm.. |
| 01:45.51 | bnoji | or you can do it with dpkg -i by hand forcing the archives to install |
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| 01:46.04 | netangel | dpkg -i sysvinit ? |
| 01:46.06 | bnoji | netangel: replace stable with testing |
| 01:46.08 | Zylr | Hi, if im going to go Debian should I use stable or another release? People say that stable is 'outdated'. |
| 01:46.21 | OblivionO | helix: why should it matter if I install it as a default module or built in? |
| 01:46.25 | bnoji | then after dist-upgrading to testing, replace "testing" with "sid" and dist-upgrade again |
| 01:46.27 | helix | OblivionO: it doesn't |
| 01:46.33 | bob2 | netangel: didn't you just say that manually doing it with dpkg *didn't* work? |
| 01:46.36 | helix | OblivionO: i just assumed it was a module *shrug* |
| 01:46.47 | bnoji | bob2: you just have to ignore depends |
| 01:46.48 | bob2 | Zylr: use stable. |
| 01:46.53 | OblivionO | helix: oh |
| 01:46.56 | helix | netangel: you have to install the deb /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 01:46.57 | bob2 | bnoji: netangel says that didn't work |
| 01:47.02 | bob2 | tho I'm not sure how. |
| 01:47.03 | aca | what is the name of that page that has nice wallpapers is something like 76lb... |
| 01:47.13 | aca | 76lab i mean |
| 01:47.16 | Zylr | bob2: But all the packages are 'outdated' too! |
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| 01:47.31 | bnoji | bob2: its works |
| 01:47.33 | helix | Zylr: use the debian installer |
| 01:47.33 | netangel | helix, what's that /var/cache/apt/archives ? |
| 01:47.34 | OblivionO | nothing but trouble... linux on vaio's.. |
| 01:47.35 | bob2 | Zylr: according to who? |
| 01:47.41 | bnoji | i did it yesterday |
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