| 00:00.04 | aton` | tarzeau, i think i had that once, the icons were all quadratic? has that changed? |
| 00:00.09 | hogmeat | what do folks recommend for a accessing a cvs repo remotely as far as server software ? |
| 00:00.17 | Tweak22 | ok thanks |
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| 00:00.22 | mentor | SwedishChef: ah, ic. I think you'll probably have to end up removing the device ids from the map, or removing the module :/ |
| 00:00.29 | fricky | I just upgrade udev and now I get "unable to open initial console". Do you know how to solve it ? |
| 00:00.29 | tarzeau | aton`: the icons are just icons and they are not square, they have transparency |
| 00:00.37 | aton` | k |
| 00:00.39 | tarzeau | aton`: and are intended to be used in a GNUstep environment |
| 00:00.47 | aton` | gnustep is what? |
| 00:01.21 | aton` | reading... |
| 00:01.36 | tarzeau | aton`: GNUstep is based on the original OpenStep specification created by NeXT, Inc. (now Apple). GNUstep is a free, standard, object-oriented, cross-platform development environment meant to provide generalized visual interface design, a cohesive user interface, and look good as well. |
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| 00:01.47 | aton` | (c) http://www.gnustep.org/ |
| 00:01.49 | aton` | :) |
| 00:01.52 | XeroShadow | Ok i just stardted a debian install and i got to the base system. I am using a 18.2gb SCSI drive and it starts the base install and then it says dbootstrap has an error, all of my scsi hardware is recognized right off the bat |
| 00:01.56 | tarzeau | aton`: it's not dependant of window maker, nor is window maker dependant of gnustep. |
| 00:02.04 | Supaplex | all your unix are belong to us |
| 00:02.16 | mwilson | You're still pushing gnustep on people? ^_^ |
| 00:02.22 | tarzeau | mwilson: i am? |
| 00:02.28 | Spencer_ | How do I get/install a sound driver? It's a VIA Technologies sound card. |
| 00:02.30 | intero | tarzeau: looks funny |
| 00:02.40 | mwilson | I'm asking. |
| 00:02.44 | tarzeau | mwilson: yes i do |
| 00:02.51 | tarzeau | mwilson: i know they all want that. they just don't know |
| 00:03.05 | spoofer | Spencer_, did you compile your kernel by yourself? |
| 00:03.16 | tarzeau | kde is for masochists, gnome for sadists. gnustep for the rest |
| 00:03.20 | aton` | tarzeau, i cannot get anything out of the text, what in fact is gnustep? a desktop icons system? a taskbar? a filemanager? a programming api? |
| 00:03.36 | tarzeau | aton`: the last one |
| 00:03.56 | aton` | ah okay |
| 00:04.08 | tarzeau | aton`: and it's defined very good in the OpenStep specifications, here: http://www.gnustep.org/information/openstep.html and http://www.gnustep.org/resources/OpenStepSpec/OpenStepSpec.html |
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| 00:04.27 | aton` | well i dont have the time to put that much into my desktop :/ |
| 00:04.33 | Spencer_ | spoofer: Yes. |
| 00:04.34 | tarzeau | aton`: now order isbn 0-596-00235-1 already |
| 00:04.38 | aton` | just want some icons :) |
| 00:04.43 | tarzeau | aton`: you didn't get it |
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| 00:05.11 | tarzeau | aton`: that just tells me gnustep still is way ahead of its time. |
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| 00:05.29 | aton` | tarzeau, enlighten me |
| 00:05.30 | spoofer | Then I think that you forget to compile support for your sound card in your kernel...Spencer_ |
| 00:05.37 | PaPyRene1 | xp: whan I run lilo it only says that it don't find a signatur on the (not default) linux partition of my 1st SCSI disk /dev/sda1 |
| 00:05.50 | edrx | how do I do the equivalent to "isatty(STDIN)" in a shell script? |
| 00:05.52 | spoofer | which kernel Spencer_? |
| 00:05.52 | tarzeau | aton`: wait 5 years |
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| 00:07.18 | Seb_ | what's my best option to burn DVDs on woody ? Does cdrecord 1.10 do that ? |
| 00:07.22 | humbolt | which channel to use for xfree dri questions? |
| 00:07.39 | tarzeau | humbolt: debian packages of them? here |
| 00:07.40 | mwilson | Seb_: No. No version of cdrecord burns DVD's |
| 00:08.01 | intero | Seb_: read /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.DVD.Debian |
| 00:08.04 | Spencer_ | spoofer: I don't think I received that option. I have Linux Debian 2.2.20. (I did "uname -a") |
| 00:08.13 | mwilson | Seb_: I would be very surprised if dvd+rw-tools don't build on Woody, though. |
| 00:08.31 | aton` | tarzeau i really dont get it, but i would like to, do you think you could explain somehow what it is? |
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| 00:08.57 | spoofer | Spencer_, if you compile kernel by yourself, you should try to use another one.. anyway I'm off |
| 00:08.59 | tarzeau | aton`: try download and boot www.linuks.mine.nu/gnustep/ |
| 00:09.06 | edrx | ...got the answer in #emacs... I can test isatty(STDIN) in a shell script using tty -s |
| 00:09.22 | Seb_ | mwilson: ok, thx |
| 00:09.28 | tarzeau | aton`: do you know microsoft mfc ? or qt/kdelibs? or gtk/gnomelibs? |
| 00:09.34 | lucas | Spencer_, sound card drivers need to be present in your kernel, either statically built in, or as loadable modules... |
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| 00:09.51 | lucas | Spencer_, find out which driver is needed for the chipset you have, then load the module for it |
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| 00:09.55 | aton` | tarzeau, yes, is it somewhat like that? |
| 00:09.58 | tarzeau | aton`: now imagine you'd need to develop graphical applications that interact with the user, which of those would you pick? |
| 00:10.00 | Seb_ | intero: I don't have that file |
| 00:10.04 | bghfhfg | How do I access a machine inside a network from outside the network? |
| 00:10.11 | aton` | tarzeau, gtk |
| 00:10.11 | Spencer_ | lucas: How do I load the module for it? |
| 00:10.14 | tarzeau | aton`: yes but way superior! uncomparable , so much better |
| 00:10.19 | blizzow | Is anyone here using debian-sparc |
| 00:10.20 | blizzow | ? |
| 00:10.20 | tarzeau | aton`: no you'd take GNUstep of course |
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| 00:10.29 | tarzeau | blizzow: yes |
| 00:10.36 | lucas | Spencer_, 'modprobe <modulename>' |
| 00:10.37 | aton` | tarzeau is that your opinion? |
| 00:10.46 | lucas | Spencer_, then you can check what's loaded with 'lsmod' |
| 00:10.55 | tarzeau | aton`: no, yours! |
| 00:11.01 | Spencer_ | lucas: Sweet. Thanks a lot. |
| 00:11.08 | lucas | Spencer_, but you may find the driver is compiled into the kernel, in which case you don't need to bother |
| 00:11.09 | tarzeau | bghfhfg: what about make a hole in the firewall? |
| 00:11.18 | aton` | tarzeau, btw, these icons dont have transparency, thats what it looked like when i installed it http://www.linuks.mine.nu/gnustep/gnustep.jpg |
| 00:11.38 | tarzeau | aton`: yes they have transparency, those in the gnustep-icons package |
| 00:11.42 | blizzow | Tarzeau: I couldn't find the happy meal driver during the initial install. Where do I find the driver on CD, or where on the install CD do I find kernel source so I can compile the HME module? |
| 00:11.59 | tarzeau | blizzow: hme nics just work, you must be doing something wrong |
| 00:12.06 | intero | Seb_: you want the text in private? |
| 00:12.10 | aton` | hm |
| 00:12.21 | tarzeau | blizzow: bug #sparc |
| 00:12.25 | whatever | blizzow: I saw it under network interfaces |
| 00:12.29 | Spencer_ | lucas: I just did "lsmod". I have a "soundcore", but it's unused. Is it because my sound card doesn't support that driver? |
| 00:12.34 | blizzow | the HME showed up in dmesg. I'll go check the thing out again. |
| 00:12.56 | lucas | Spencer_, sound core is basic sound support, once you load the driver specific to your hardware, it will use soundcore |
| 00:13.01 | fricky | fricky |
| 00:13.05 | whatever | bbl |
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| 00:13.41 | Seb_ | inteyes, please |
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| 00:14.34 | humbolt | I've got a problem with libGL versions. Is in general /usr/lib/X11R6 a link to /usr/lib or are these two separate directories. I ask because there is a libGL in either dir! |
| 00:14.44 | humbolt | I want to use dri glx without trunk packages, but glxinfo tells me, that libGL is searching for radeon-dri in modules-dri-trunk. |
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| 00:15.48 | Seb_ | intero: yes please |
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| 00:15.56 | leikh | how do i remove the first 5 lines in each of 226 files i have in a directory? |
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| 00:16.15 | lucas | leikh, didn't i already direct you to #bash? ;) |
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| 00:16.50 | _SoLdAdO_ | alguém aew sabe como entro na brasnet ? |
| 00:16.51 | _SoLdAdO_ | podem me ajudar |
| 00:16.51 | _SoLdAdO_ | aiaaiahiahaiha |
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| 00:17.25 | vhuren | can someone help me unload gnome, basically I installed it but I dont want gdm to load as my manager could someone tell me what file I need to edit to get rid of it? like It boots into the gnome login screen I want a command promt instead |
| 00:17.44 | petemc | !tell vhuren about nodm |
| 00:18.28 | sgeigerbot | leikh: that's a good question. I wish I had a good answer. |
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| 00:18.50 | sgeigerbot | leikh: I would use "find" and "buthead" |
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| 00:19.33 | intero | Seb_: i got some "--- No text to send" tell me if it's incomplete |
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| 00:22.31 | sime | emu-tools is not in sarge right? |
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| 00:23.01 | timzter | . |
| 00:23.36 | vhuren | echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 00:23.38 | petemc | !tell sime about search |
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| 00:23.47 | vhuren | if I do that it will make xdm from loading> |
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| 00:24.31 | petemc | vhuren: you said you had gdm, update-rc.d -f gdm remove will keep it from starting till you update you packages again |
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| 00:24.56 | vhuren | petemc: thank you ;) |
| 00:25.08 | petemc | vhuren: otherwise uninstall it completely, tho i personally find a display manager useful |
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| 00:25.32 | Spencer_ | lucas: I have the installation CD for the driver (which came with my motherboard). Would I be able to get the driver that way? |
| 00:25.44 | red_cactus | how does XSendEvent() work? Can anyone point me to some documentation? |
| 00:25.50 | lucas | Spencer_, probably not, it's probably just the windows driver |
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| 00:26.04 | petemc | Spencer_: eveything you need should be in the kernel one, a recent kernel at least |
| 00:26.11 | lucas | Spencer_, it's very likely that your kernel will already have support for your sound card |
| 00:26.12 | vhuren | petemc: I want to use fluxbox and all thats why :) |
| 00:26.13 | petemc | s/one// |
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| 00:26.34 | petemc | vhuren: you can use a diplay manager to start fluxbox |
| 00:26.44 | vhuren | petemc: how so? |
| 00:27.10 | Spencer_ | lucas: Well how do I get everything working so that sound comes out of my speakers? |
| 00:27.12 | petemc | vhuren: install it, select ot from gdms menu, generally gdm should do the right thing |
| 00:27.18 | sime | petemc, with my comment i was hoping to catch the attention of a audiophile |
| 00:27.35 | lucas | Spencer_, have a look in the file /proc/pci, that will tell you exactly what kind of chipset you have... |
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| 00:27.42 | edrx | petemc: I was just struggling with that question these days, and only found the first answer (apt-get-remove'ing the ?dm packages) by myself - the default-display-manager solution is neat |
| 00:27.48 | petemc | sime: thats daft, if you have a question, ask it |
| 00:27.49 | lucas | Spencer_, next, find out what linux kernel driver you need to get that chipset to work |
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| 00:28.33 | lucas | Spencer_, tell me what it is, i'll try to help |
| 00:28.38 | sime | i cannot compile emu-tools : |
| 00:28.39 | sime | as10k1.c:42:13: missing terminating " character |
| 00:28.39 | sime | as10k1.c:46:22: missing terminating ' character |
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| 00:28.55 | Jarjar26 | are there a way to list peripheral on isa bus like lspci ? |
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| 00:29.07 | gb | simeyou need to hire Arnold |
| 00:29.10 | tarzeau | Jarjar26: yes |
| 00:29.12 | petemc | Jarjar26: cat /proc/iomem or ioports |
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| 00:29.31 | Flimzy | Are there any opensource e-commerce software suites other than Interchange? I'm needing to set up a web site with only about 25-35 items, and I suspect Interchange is tremendous overkill. |
| 00:29.48 | idnarhtim | sime: it uses a deprecated form of string literals that is not supported by newer versions of gcc |
| 00:29.53 | gb | Jarjar26: yes using lsisa |
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| 00:30.07 | idnarhtim | sime: you'll either need to fix the code yourself, or find a patch somewhere |
| 00:30.17 | Jarjar26 | lsisa dont exist , wich package provide lsisa ? |
| 00:30.21 | gb | from memory it's a non-free utility so it's not part of debian |
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| 00:30.50 | vhuren | what would you guys consider to be the best dm? :) |
| 00:31.01 | ee_ee | dungeon master? |
| 00:31.04 | Flimzy | vhuren: bash |
| 00:31.04 | gb | that doesn't stop you from using the source & seeking it out for yourself |
| 00:31.10 | vhuren | heh |
| 00:31.20 | idnarhtim | vhuren: I like gdm |
| 00:31.22 | ee_ee | my buddy frank used to be a rad dm |
| 00:31.25 | vhuren | i guess I'll get used to the lonely existence of bash :) |
| 00:31.33 | sime | idnarhtim, in lamems terms what has changed |
| 00:31.36 | vhuren | well I have gdm but I still cant figure out how to load fluxbox in it |
| 00:31.37 | gb | vhuren: no such thing as a best dm |
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| 00:31.46 | Seb_ | intero: I got everything., thanks :) |
| 00:31.46 | gb | I prefer vncserver myself |
| 00:31.55 | vhuren | well I'm new to linux and all |
| 00:31.56 | Jarjar26 | gb: lsisa are in which packages ? |
| 00:32.00 | Flimzy | vhuren: If you're refering to kdm/gdm/xdm... then who gives a rats ass? They all do the same thing and are all very configurable. |
| 00:32.02 | vhuren | prior to i worked with bsd |
| 00:32.08 | petemc | vhuren: installign fluxbox, logging out to gdm and selecting it from the menu doesnt work? |
| 00:32.12 | ee_ee | do kids still play d+d? |
| 00:32.15 | intero | Seb_: yw |
| 00:32.22 | idnarhtim | sime: they have string literals containing newlines |
| 00:32.22 | gb | Jarjar26: scroll up to see my answer |
| 00:32.24 | vhuren | loggin into gdm? |
| 00:32.26 | petemc | Jarjar26: did you try what i told you? |
| 00:32.31 | petemc | vhuren: kill x |
| 00:32.32 | purplenurple | I know this is a stupid question, but I just can't remember. What is the command to symlink |
| 00:32.35 | Flimzy | vhuren: I usually just use whichever one is installed by default when I install whatever DE/WM I choose. If no default, I choose whichever one seems best according to my horoscope that da. |
| 00:32.36 | idnarhtim | sime: they do this by opening inverted commas, and then placing a \ at the end of the line |
| 00:32.38 | Flimzy | s/da./day./ |
| 00:32.39 | petemc | purplenurple: ln -s |
| 00:32.48 | petemc | purplenurple: usually, man ln |
| 00:32.48 | purplenurple | petemc, thank yo |
| 00:32.52 | idnarhtim | sime: the proper syntax would be to have a \n in the string, close the quotes, and then open them on the next line |
| 00:32.56 | vhuren | petemc: how do I kill X? |
| 00:33.09 | petemc | vhuren: logout from gnome |
| 00:33.11 | idnarhtim | sime: "blahblah\n"<newline>"morestuff..." |
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| 00:33.15 | gelfling | ctrl + alt + backspace |
| 00:33.16 | vhuren | I logged outta gnome |
| 00:33.21 | gb | vhuren: wooden stake through the heart |
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| 00:33.22 | gelfling | to kill x |
| 00:33.26 | Jarjar26 | petemc: Yes i have tried |
| 00:33.28 | idnarhtim | sime: whereas they have "blahblah\<newline>morestuff..." |
| 00:33.33 | vhuren | yep I did the ctrl+ backspace and alt |
| 00:33.34 | vhuren | heh |
| 00:33.37 | vhuren | now what do I do.. |
| 00:33.42 | petemc | shouldnt need to do that |
| 00:33.49 | vhuren | btw petemc I appreciate your patience and help ;) |
| 00:33.50 | petemc | vhuren: ffs, look at the menu |
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| 00:33.53 | gelfling | no idea, im noob :) |
| 00:34.14 | idnarhtim | sime: if you're not familiar with C, then this probably won't make much sense; in that case, all I can suggest is googling for a patch someone else has made to fix it |
| 00:34.14 | gb | !tell gefabout noob |
| 00:34.15 | vhuren | ok I'll start it again |
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| 00:34.22 | vhuren | I had fluxbox installed prior to gnome |
| 00:34.25 | XeroShadow | Ok i just stardted a debian install and i got to the base system. I am using a 18.2gb SCSI drive and it starts the base install and then it says dbootstrap has an error, all of my scsi hardware is recognized right off the bat |
| 00:34.25 | vhuren | if that makes any difference |
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| 00:34.54 | bsims | I'll be damed Cupsus actually works now |
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| 00:35.29 | idnarhtim | gb: wrong noob |
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| 00:35.39 | petemc | Jarjar26: and you didnt see any pertinent information? what are you looking for? have you tried dmesg? |
| 00:35.41 | idnarhtim | gb: :P |
| 00:35.42 | vhuren | i'm the noob here heh |
| 00:36.15 | gelfling | im running the 2.6.4 kernel on my laptop and when it boots it says my nic is a 10base in half duplex, how do i get in 100 with full? |
| 00:36.17 | Maximilln | b0b |
| 00:36.20 | red_cactus | how does XSendEvent() work? Can anyone point me to some documentation? |
| 00:37.15 | bsims | #233469 for initscripts has been resolved |
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| 00:37.24 | Supaplex | yay! |
| 00:37.25 | petemc | gelfling: do you have a network that supports it? if you card supports it you could try installing and using mii-diag, or try ethtool |
| 00:37.40 | Supaplex | red_cactus man XSendEvent didn't say anything? |
| 00:37.54 | vhuren | anyone have an idea to get an intel proset 2100 wireless running? |
| 00:37.56 | red_cactus | Supaplex: I love you. :-) |
| 00:37.57 | red_cactus | thanks |
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| 00:38.07 | minddog_ | heyas |
| 00:38.18 | minddog_ | anyone familiar with how to use the mingw32 gcc compiler in unstable? |
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| 00:39.25 | mentor | minddog_: yes |
| 00:39.25 | bsims | hrm looks like latest sid packages fixed sysvinit and initscripts |
| 00:39.30 | mentor | ~tell minddog_ about anyone |
| 00:39.35 | minddog_ | mentor: =) |
| 00:39.38 | tilman | i just installed the testing mozilla-thunderbird package (v0.5) the about dialog has an XML parsing error. Anyone else getting that? |
| 00:39.52 | bsims | can anyone confirm this |
| 00:40.06 | minddog_ | mentor: i'm looking through /usr/i5860mingw32msvc/bin and don't see a gcc binary |
| 00:40.21 | Lemming | tilman I'll tell u in a mo |
| 00:40.29 | tilman | lemming: thanks |
| 00:40.29 | red_cactus | whoa |
| 00:40.30 | Lemming | 2min 30 and I'll have it |
| 00:40.32 | red_cactus | Lemming? |
| 00:40.37 | Lemming | mm? |
| 00:40.41 | tilman | lemming: just want to make sure i'm running 0.5 |
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| 00:40.49 | red_cactus | do you have any idea what Vendetta is? |
| 00:40.54 | Lemming | yup |
| 00:40.55 | mage | anyone can help me with openssl ? |
| 00:40.56 | Lemming | used to play it |
| 00:41.01 | red_cactus | hmmmm |
| 00:41.07 | red_cactus | are you the same Lemming? |
| 00:41.09 | Lemming | but not as lemming |
| 00:41.11 | Lemming | :) |
| 00:41.14 | red_cactus | ah |
| 00:41.16 | red_cactus | how weird |
| 00:41.23 | mentor | minddog_: Does the README in the doc dir tell you what to do? |
| 00:41.24 | Lemming | not really |
| 00:41.34 | Lemming | plenty of cheap knockoffs of me about:P |
| 00:41.38 | bsims | hrm looks like latest sid packages fixed sysvinit and initscripts; critial bugs are closed can someone confirm this before I lose power <g> |
| 00:41.38 | red_cactus | haha |
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| 00:41.54 | Lemming | I doubt many ppl have had Lemming for 7yrs:) |
| 00:41.59 | red_cactus | haha |
| 00:42.00 | red_cactus | yeah |
| 00:42.02 | red_cactus | you're probably right |
| 00:42.50 | Lemming | I started with quake |
| 00:43.02 | red_cactus | eh |
| 00:43.05 | red_cactus | I don't like quake |
| 00:43.36 | bohan_ | is it possible to have some file permissions and user/groups alters on some files after a computer crash? i had to purge and reinstall gnupg and screen to fix permissions problems, which is strange because i changed nothing by myself.. (woody) |
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| 00:44.05 | mentor | bohan_: perfectly possible, yes. |
| 00:44.28 | minddog_ | mentor: whoa seems complicated |
| 00:44.42 | carrett | can anyone tell me what this means (trying insmod 8139too): "No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 02:0.c.0. Probably buggy MP table." |
| 00:44.49 | mentor | minddog_: yep. |
| 00:44.50 | Lemming | tilman, my thunderbird seems to be fine |
| 00:44.59 | tilman | ok |
| 00:45.01 | tilman | thanks |
| 00:45.16 | tilman | i had it running during upgrade |
| 00:45.24 | tilman | complained that it could replace config files |
| 00:45.26 | elephantman | Where can i find usbdevfs on my debian system ? |
| 00:45.27 | tilman | thats prob it |
| 00:45.40 | timzter | I have registered 2 domain names. How can I make my apache server answer to both domain names so that www.xxx.com/foo and www.yyy.com/foo return the same page, but the URL is retained based on what the user typed? |
| 00:45.45 | bohan_ | mentor, /usr/bin/gnupg seemed to have lost its setuid bit, and /var/run/screen was set to root:root... anyway, if it's always repaired by putting back the most restrictive permissions, there's no security problem, is it? |
| 00:45.50 | carrett | elephantman: what are you trying to do? |
| 00:46.06 | carrett | can anyone tell me what this means (trying insmod 8139too): "No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 02:0.c.0. Probably buggy MP table." |
| 00:46.28 | stew | timzter: add two <VirtualHost> stanzas that are identical except for ServerName |
| 00:46.53 | timzter | stew, aha, so only have ONE ServerName entry? |
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| 00:47.07 | jonjon | hi there... |
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| 00:47.18 | jonjon | how would i go about increasing the number of processes i can fork |
| 00:47.21 | elephantman | carrett: i have a usb printer problem saying "Unable to open USB device..." -- SO i installed usbview that is telling me to find usbdevfs to configure the printer |
| 00:47.22 | jonjon | 100 is too few :( |
| 00:47.23 | stew | timzter: one stanza would have ServerName www.xxx.com and the other would have ServerName www.yyy.com |
| 00:47.34 | jonjon | limits.conf is not helpful (i can only lower my limit) |
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| 00:47.52 | stew | timzter: the ServerName is the thing thats returned to the browser, so if you try to make one ServerAlias you won't get what you want |
| 00:47.55 | elephantman | carrett: usbview is seeing the printer, but its the only usb device line in red - misconfiguration |
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| 00:48.38 | jonjon | anyone else have similar problems? |
| 00:48.52 | Infohawk | I did "adduser ME dip" and "groups ME" shows I am a member of dip, but "groups" does not show me as part of dip. /etc/groups does. pon and poff say I'm not part of dip. What's with the inconsistency? |
| 00:49.12 | sime | idnarhtim, in this case they just have carrage return's which i guess worked at one point, would work in perl |
| 00:49.52 | Infohawk | And how do I /really/ add myself to dip |
| 00:50.13 | timzter | stew, what about the ServerName entry that is currently OUTSIDE the VirtualHost stanza? Do I retain it? Do I have two entries for it outside the VirtualHost stanzas in addition to those within the VirtualHost stanzas? |
| 00:50.16 | bohan_ | infohawk, you need to logout and relogin |
| 00:50.41 | Infohawk | bohan_, oh. :/ Thanks. |
| 00:50.56 | minddog_ | mentor: how do you "build" the cross compiler from the package? |
| 00:51.07 | minddog_ | i'm a bit of a noob with the tools =/ |
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| 00:51.19 | bohan_ | infohawk, or just do su infohawk ;p |
| 00:51.24 | bohan_ | heh, too late |
| 00:51.30 | jonjon | hehe |
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| 00:52.58 | timzter | stew, nevermind..I think I have it working now...I have separate VirtualHost stanzas like you suggested, and I have two ServerName entries outside the VirtualHost stanzas as well, one for each domain name. Not sure if that is needed, but it works. |
| 00:53.44 | stew | timzter: anything outside the VirtualHost Stanzas will only matter if a request matches none of the virtualhost definitions |
| 00:53.50 | WAR_CH|LD | I know this is simple, and I have done it before... but, using the mail command.. how can I get a file (Txt) to mail off, as the mails body...? |
| 00:53.56 | timzter | stew, I see. |
| 00:54.09 | jonjon | maybe i have to write a new PAM module........ |
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| 00:54.15 | mentor | minddog_: I don't know. I've never used it. |
| 00:54.36 | zophyx | anyone notice that knl v1.0.4 doesn't work ? |
| 00:54.49 | nevyn | WAR_CH|LD: mail -s blah address < file |
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| 00:55.24 | WAR_CH|LD | ah! |
| 00:55.25 | WAR_CH|LD | ty |
| 00:55.29 | WAR_CH|LD | was so close |
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| 00:55.58 | WAR_CH|LD | my < was teh worng way.. :\ |
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| 00:56.25 | minddog_ | oh, okay |
| 00:56.25 | elephantman | Say i want to compile kernel 2.6 and that i run 2.4, i though have 2.4 modules source under /usr/src/modules, when i try to compile 2.6 it says that modules under /usr/src/modules are not good - What do i need to do ? |
| 00:56.30 | elephantman | Should i remove the 2.4 modules from /usr/src/modules ? |
| 00:57.00 | zophyx | i never heard of /usr/src/modules |
| 00:57.41 | Supaplex | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.46 | jonjon | not /lib/modules? |
| 00:57.51 | nevyn | WAR_CH|LD: well that won't work. if you understand how it works and that it's not actually a argument to mail but doing shell magic you couldn't possibly get the < rought the wrong way |
| 00:57.54 | Justin_ | elephantman: telling us what it actually says rather than "are not good" would help |
| 00:57.54 | jonjon | like /lib/modules/2.4.x/ |
| 00:58.03 | nevyn | s/rought/round |
| 00:58.08 | nevyn | / |
| 00:58.23 | jonjon | nevyn: no semicolon? |
| 00:58.24 | jonjon | :) |
| 00:58.28 | nevyn | heh |
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| 00:58.54 | elephantman | Justin_: says that pcmcia-cs in /usr/src/modules is made for 2.4 and though can't compile it |
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| 00:59.14 | Justin_ | elephantman: pcmcia-cs doesn't work in 2.6 |
| 00:59.23 | gb | A long walk off a short jetty |
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| 01:00.04 | nevyn | did pcmcia get hotplugified in 2.6? |
| 01:00.14 | Justin_ | something like that |
| 01:00.22 | sgeigerbot | leikh: Do you still need to remove 5 lines from many files? I just wrote a script to do it. |
| 01:00.29 | dana_c | does anyone know of any software to convert files from mpegs to mov? |
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| 01:00.59 | zophyx | i've been using linux since 1993 and i have never heard of /usr/src/modules |
| 01:01.21 | zophyx | please do not prevert linus |
| 01:01.23 | sgeigerbot | zophyx: run memtest86 on your brain |
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| 01:01.37 | hlen | will a common kernel source compile allright on a sparc? |
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| 01:01.49 | zophyx | sgeigerbot: what creates /usr/src/modules ? |
| 01:01.54 | nevyn | mencoder? |
| 01:01.55 | elephantman | Justin_: yes i know that - but what do i do : Do i "rm -rf /usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs" ? |
| 01:01.56 | elephantman | Justin_: ok move it temporarly out of the way |
| 01:01.56 | elephantman | ok = or |
| 01:02.00 | Gnea | bleh.. sorry bout the root@* before |
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| 01:02.14 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 01:02.26 | FieldySnuts | did you get the good ole "ROOOOOT has landed" bit |
| 01:02.31 | sgeigerbot | zophyx: not sure, but it's on all my systems. perhaps it is debian-specific |
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| 01:03.04 | sgeigerbot | leikh: are you there? Hello!? He llo he lo h lo h lo he lo |
| 01:03.13 | FieldySnuts | hi sge |
| 01:03.14 | FieldySnuts | er |
| 01:03.17 | FieldySnuts | f it. |
| 01:03.18 | zophyx | sgeigerbot: that's queer, cuz i have never seen it |
| 01:03.34 | stew | zophyx: pcmcia-kernel-modules for instance would create /usr/src/modules |
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| 01:03.55 | stew | zophyx: i have it on my laptop for thinkpad-source too |
| 01:04.00 | bohan_ | sgeigerbot, grep /usr/src/modules /var/lib/dpkg/*/*.list ? heh |
| 01:04.00 | sparr | what does rc (as in xinitrc, fvwmrc, anyotherprogramrc) stand for? |
| 01:04.01 | zophyx | i don't ever use deb packages for source, i think that explains it |
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| 01:04.50 | carrett | do the sarge installer cds use different kernel images than the woodys? |
| 01:05.01 | sgeigerbot | sparr: run command |
| 01:05.26 | sgeigerbot | sparr: at least that is what it means in rc.d |
| 01:05.32 | zerox_ | have anyone set up cyrus + postfix + mysql + squirrelmai ?? i got cyrus + postfix + mysql working buth squirrelmai dont whant to :( |
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| 01:06.01 | lucas | zerox_, what's the problem with squirrelmail? |
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| 01:07.21 | sparr | zignig: get what you pay for |
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| 01:07.38 | zignig | sparr: $0 , yep , and lovin it :) |
| 01:07.39 | suzzi | hello all, i now this is offtopic, but is there an audacity chan or is any one using that would be able to answer a question about adding in cuepoints? |
| 01:07.54 | Caveman- | guys.. I have a problem with apt-get |
| 01:07.55 | zerox_ | lucas i added a test accont with web-cyradm but i cant login |
| 01:07.56 | zophyx | .rc = Rock on Chicks |
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| 01:08.10 | Caveman- | I have deleted my /var/cache/apt folder |
| 01:08.20 | Caveman- | which was very silly |
| 01:08.26 | zerox_ | i have added Server software to cyrus and Authentication type to plain |
| 01:08.29 | Caveman- | is there any way to rebuild it ?? |
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| 01:09.12 | zignig | Caveman-: just get it of you comprehensive backups ;P |
| 01:09.13 | bghfhfg | What is the module to run a.out type executables called? |
| 01:09.29 | Caveman- | zignig: its a new install |
| 01:09.36 | simonrvn | bghfhfg: a.out is libc5 crap |
| 01:09.36 | Caveman- | so I don't have such a thing :P |
| 01:09.54 | zignig | *off |
| 01:10.00 | bghfhfg | simonrvn: Yes, but I have some very old binaries I need to run. |
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| 01:10.08 | simonrvn | nods |
| 01:10.20 | Caveman- | anyone ??? |
| 01:10.23 | zignig | Caveman-: ah , try apt-get update , you may need to get all your .debs again |
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| 01:10.32 | zignig | simonrvn: blehlo. |
| 01:10.51 | simonrvn | hiya |
| 01:10.52 | Caveman- | ok |
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| 01:11.11 | minddog_ | mentor: oh it is there =) no need to build |
| 01:11.11 | minddog_ | minddog@silverhaze:~$ i586-mingw32msvc-gcc |
| 01:11.11 | suzzi | anyone for audacity??? |
| 01:11.20 | Supaplex | Caveman- check the debian-reference, there are some things about rebuilding accidents like that. |
| 01:11.28 | plugwash | Caveman- tried apt-get install libc5? |
| 01:11.29 | mentor | ~tell suzzi about ask |
| 01:11.31 | mentor | ~tell suzzi about anyone |
| 01:11.35 | mentor | suzzi: yes |
| 01:11.37 | mentor | minddog_: :) |
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| 01:11.57 | bohan_ | suzzi, hmm, maybe efnet is a better chatnet for audio/music related things |
| 01:11.57 | sgeigerbot | simonrvn: a.out binaries aren't libc6? what took their place? |
| 01:12.06 | Supaplex | for cool |
| 01:12.15 | bohan_ | suzzi, try efnet #musicdsp |
| 01:12.21 | simonrvn | sgeigerbot: ELF |
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| 01:12.32 | suzzi | mentor i was looking to add cuepoints to a wav in audacity, i asked above and didnt want to repeat, thanks though |
| 01:12.39 | suzzi | bohan_ thanks |
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| 01:13.07 | aedwards | anybody know where I can find aspell...it's not in the cahce |
| 01:13.09 | Vladkao | suzzi: i guess it is an easy task anyway |
| 01:13.39 | suzzi | Vladkao it probably is i've been looking for the past half hour and cant figure it out, so i figured i'd ask |
| 01:13.39 | aedwards | at least the english version |
| 01:13.42 | mwilson | doobie doobie doo |
| 01:14.00 | sgeigerbot | zophyx: are you someone that used Linux non-stop since 1993 or just occasionally? |
| 01:14.19 | sgeigerbot | ...in the beginning? /me finds it misleading to say when one started to use linux |
| 01:14.19 | Vladkao | mwilson: acting strange |
| 01:14.27 | Caveman- | WOWO FIXED :D |
| 01:14.37 | Caveman- | I just had to put the empy folders back |
| 01:14.39 | Caveman- | COOL :D |
| 01:14.44 | sgeigerbot | Vladkao: Btw, thanks for giving me credit for the "when in danger or doubt" quote |
| 01:15.11 | Vladkao | sgeigerbot: :) |
| 01:15.23 | zignig | Caveman-: now remember , do not delete important folders :) , and back up. |
| 01:15.40 | Vladkao | Caveman-: never play when root :) |
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| 01:16.17 | bghfhfg | How do I run old a.out binaries? |
| 01:16.20 | zignig | Vladkao: I keep , 3 rsynced copies of my dev machin, |
| 01:16.24 | zignig | Vladkao: much safer. |
| 01:17.13 | Supaplex | aedwards aspell tip #1 it's cache ;) |
| 01:17.54 | Supaplex | bghfhfg with support for a.out binaries in the kernel, at the least |
| 01:18.02 | gb | zignig: folders?? |
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| 01:18.26 | bghfhfg | Supaplex: Is there a module for it in Debian? |
| 01:18.47 | zophyx | ejp: Unable to find a source package for pcmcia-kernel-modules |
| 01:18.55 | zophyx | you guys are on crack |
| 01:19.03 | Supaplex | bghfhfg it's a kernel feature, check your /boot/config-* |
| 01:19.22 | Supaplex | zophyx is that what they call this? I thought it was a chair. |
| 01:19.33 | sgeigerbot | beta3: You deserve the title moron. |
| 01:19.49 | aedwards | Supaplex...that's funny. Yeah the french, german and spanish version appear from a apt-get cache but not the english version of aspell |
| 01:19.51 | beta3 | !dict moron |
| 01:19.53 | dpkg | Dictionary 'moron' (2 shown): a person of subnormal intelligence ;; Moron \Mo*ron"\, n.; Sp. pl. Morones. [Sp.] An inferior olive size having a woody pulp and a large clingstone pit, growing in the mountainous and high-valley districts around the city of Moron, in Spain.. |
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| 01:20.40 | bghfhfg | Supaplex: Is there any way to convert a.out executables to ELF executables? |
| 01:20.47 | zophyx | is virgin olive oil made from morons ? |
| 01:20.52 | sgeigerbot | !moron#1 |
| 01:20.53 | Vladkao | aedwards: isn't it installed by default? |
| 01:20.53 | dpkg | from memory, moron#1 is beta3 |
| 01:20.53 | Supaplex | bghfhfg find source, recompile. |
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| 01:21.18 | Supaplex | is that by rank, or by order of occurance? |
| 01:21.33 | Supaplex | I'd think the latter |
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| 01:21.52 | aedwards | locate and find for aspell on my debain box returns nothing. |
| 01:22.01 | beta3 | !factdict sgeigerbot |
| 01:22.01 | dpkg | Dictionary 'sgeigerbot' (1 shown): A person with submoron intelligence, see moron |
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| 01:22.15 | Supaplex | aedwards, and apt-cache search foo? |
| 01:22.21 | sgeigerbot | aedwards: dpkg --list | egrep '(find|spell)' |
| 01:22.27 | sgeigerbot | aedwards: Debian Package Management Info: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/apt-get-intro.html or http://sgeiger.mine.nu/docs/pkgmgmt.php or (tarzeau's) http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq/ or (thanks za) apt-get install apt-howto-en or (if you forget) /msg apt mgmt or /msg apt pkgmgmt |
| 01:22.30 | Caspan | is there a source for KDE3 for woody? |
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| 01:22.43 | hackeron | my friend is getting: 18:42 [freenode] -!- ERROR Closing Link: s_ (Bad user info) --- any ideas what is wrong and how to fix? |
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| 01:23.23 | Supaplex | hehe |
| 01:23.26 | mwilson | doobie doobie doo |
| 01:23.41 | sgeigerbot | !beta3-moron |
| 01:23.42 | dpkg | somebody said beta3-moron was beta3 is often a source of incorrect information...so be especially dubious about information he provides |
| 01:23.44 | Vladkao | hackeron: first of all, go to #freenode |
| 01:23.57 | beta3 | !moron sgeigerbot |
| 01:23.58 | dpkg | sgeigerbot: You are moron #31 |
| 01:24.02 | Vladkao | hackeron: next, change the user info and e-mail address |
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| 01:24.17 | hackeron | Vladkao: to what?, he tried changing it to a few things now |
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| 01:24.28 | Vladkao | hackeron: using mIRC ? :) |
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| 01:24.38 | hackeron | Vladkao: lol, irssi |
| 01:24.42 | Supaplex | and finally, provide 3 credit references, and 4 major credit card numbers </joke> |
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| 01:24.50 | zophyx | !beta3-moron |
| 01:24.50 | dpkg | beta3-moron is, like, beta3 is often a source of incorrect information...so be especially dubious about information he provides |
| 01:25.08 | Vladkao | hackeron: huh. well, change it to the login name |
| 01:25.17 | beta3 | !lart zophyx, and sgeigerbot for being moronic ADHD children |
| 01:25.17 | Vladkao | hackeron: once again, /j #freenode |
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| 01:25.42 | hackeron | Vladkao: joined, and he already set it to login name, no change, and he's not root... This happened after the major netsplits earlier today |
| 01:25.45 | sgeigerbot | beta3: We all know you are in college |
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| 01:25.47 | zophyx | i paid for solaris 7 |
| 01:26.06 | Supaplex | slow-aris |
| 01:26.09 | minddog_ | google couldn't tell me, but maybe you guys can, is there a project dedicated to mingw32 debian packages? |
| 01:26.11 | beta3 | sgeigerbot: we all know bob2 is almost as old as god |
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| 01:26.21 | Vladkao | hackeron: sorry, can't help you further. |
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| 01:26.35 | minddog_ | g'day lilo =) |
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| 01:26.48 | mwilson | minddog_: Meaning? mingw32 is a re-packaging of GCC for Windows systems. What would that have to do with Debian? |
| 01:26.55 | sgeigerbot | beta3: late 40s, right? |
| 01:26.57 | hackeron | Vladkao: I asked and got this: Mode: [+vv mazling hackeron] by UdontKnow on #freenode |
| 01:27.04 | mwilson | minddog_: Are you looking for some sort of cross-compiler? |
| 01:27.05 | beta3 | !+bob2 |
| 01:27.05 | dpkg | methinks bob2 is a donkey abuser!, or not your mother, or http://www.lgu.org/photohim02/pages/bob2.htm, or "an old man with no hair", according to himself, or my dog's name, or a fairly successful track and field athlete (http://www.birchfieldharriers.org/roadtosydney/profiles/rweir.htm), or a sneaky troll, or http://gamp.mine.nu/apt-x, or a how now brown cow, or , or a friendly helpful man unlike sussudio, or no fun, or a lemon meringue pie, or the kahaki pimp |
| 01:27.06 | minddog_ | mwilson: for cross compiling applications, you need deps |
| 01:27.17 | fricky | how can I create hdd device in /dev ? udev need it before starting but my /dev is empty |
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| 01:27.29 | mwilson | fricky: Why do you think you need to use udev? |
| 01:27.37 | zophyx | i zeroed out my sun boxes MBR |
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| 01:27.44 | zophyx | i'm fuxed |
| 01:27.56 | beta3 | mwilson: because he likes idiotic maintainers like Md |
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| 01:28.22 | g0llum_ | fricky: man mknod, hdd device is a block one with major 22, minor 64 |
| 01:28.27 | fricky | mwilson: I just test it, and I like what it can do for me with usb key |
| 01:28.49 | mwilson | fricky: And, if there are no devices in /dev, it's because you removed them. |
| 01:28.49 | flaco | hi someone have polarhome website? |
| 01:28.49 | beta3 | fricky: MAKEDEV hd |
| 01:28.56 | fricky | beta3: hmmm, yeah, he is a bit "coleric" :p |
| 01:29.26 | Supaplex | !google polarhome |
| 01:29.26 | Supaplex | guess not :P |
| 01:29.31 | beta3 | fricky: his goal is to create many rc bugs as possible |
| 01:29.33 | dpkg | Google says polarhome is at http://www.polarhome.com/ or http://www.polarhome.com/kis_herceg/ or http://www.polarhome.com/service/policy.html or http://www.polarhome.com/service/ports.html or http://www.polarhome.com/cgi-bin/fom |
| 01:29.36 | Vladkao | hackeron: ask lilo :) |
| 01:29.43 | beta3 | fricky: he has umount proc in his init scripts |
| 01:29.51 | fricky | g0llum_: it is not variable ? I look at my mandrake, and hda, for example have minor 3 and major 0 |
| 01:30.01 | Supaplex | wow, l a g |
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| 01:30.08 | fricky | mwilson: no, I have purged udev, and it seems to remove /dev entries :/ |
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| 01:30.24 | fricky | beta3: I don't have MAKEDEV, /dev is totally empty :( |
| 01:30.38 | Buggered | can i use the bot in here (apt) to search for packages? |
| 01:30.39 | Supaplex | base.tar.gz to the rescue! |
| 01:30.44 | Buggered | even though my debian box is down |
| 01:30.51 | fricky | beta3: yeah, there is lots of bug, that's why we need to test it ;) |
| 01:30.52 | Buggered | such as to see what version a package in the portage tree is |
| 01:30.53 | beta3 | fricky: makedev is on everysytem |
| 01:30.57 | Buggered | arg |
| 01:31.00 | Buggered | i meant debian tree |
| 01:31.03 | Supaplex | Buggered http://packages.debian.org/ works to |
| 01:31.04 | beta3 | fricky: I guarantee it |
| 01:31.05 | g0llum_ | fricky: mine have the same numbers, son use the number i gave you to hdd, take a look anyway to Documentation/ in the kernel source |
| 01:31.12 | beta3 | fricky: /sbin/MAKEDEV |
| 01:31.13 | dana_c | does anyone know of anything that'll convert mpeg's to mov's? |
| 01:31.17 | Buggered | Supaplex, ty |
| 01:31.43 | mwilson | fricky: "seems to?" If it actually did, that'd be a grave bug. Did you bother to confirm that? |
| 01:31.53 | fricky | beta3: MAKEDEV should be in /dev, isn't it ? I think something has removed it unfortunately :/ |
| 01:31.59 | mwilson | fricky: After all, you seem to think you're competent to use it. |
| 01:32.22 | fricky | beta3: oh, ok, I'll look at /sbin, thanks ;) |
| 01:32.29 | beta3 | fricky: its symlinked to /dev generally |
| 01:32.44 | beta3 | fricky: make sure you are in /dev when using it tho |
| 01:33.00 | beta3 | fricky: '/sbin/MAKEDEV generic' should see you through |
| 01:33.01 | fricky | mwilson: I will purge again later when I will succeed to create some entry, and I will see if it does that |
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| 01:33.55 | fricky | mwilson: competent, not a lot I guess, but I use it since 0.21 is released without problem until today |
| 01:34.12 | fricky | beta3: ok, I test that now :) |
| 01:34.28 | beta3 | fricky: that will give you a standard /dev |
| 01:34.45 | fricky | so, /sbin/MAKEDEV generic then /sbin/MAKEDEV hd, that's it ? |
| 01:34.59 | fricky | beta3: ok thanks |
| 01:35.31 | mwilson | I *really* wish initscripts/sysvinit would get its head out of its collective ass... |
| 01:35.31 | mwilson | fricky: Uh, why would you need to do that, as opposed to actually bothering to look at what the package does? |
| 01:35.35 | fricky | when it works, I will tell you (tired using windows |
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| 01:36.29 | fricky | mwilson: hu ? I don't understand, can you tell me that with another sentence ? (i'm french) |
| 01:36.40 | beta3 | fricky: no, generic will take care of all of it for you |
| 01:36.46 | zignig | mwilson: what is you problem with the init scripts ? |
| 01:36.57 | fricky | beta3: ok, marvellous |
| 01:37.11 | fricky | see you later, under linux I hope ;) |
| 01:37.35 | mwilson | zignig: I think it's terribly amusing that we've had to go through all these gyrating versions while the maintainer learns that, yes, not everyone runs a 2.6 kernel. |
| 01:37.53 | mwilson | zignig: Same kind of nonsense we're going through with the hotplug maintainer. |
| 01:37.56 | vhuren | when I try to do config a new kernel using make menuconf it gives me the following error. |
| 01:37.59 | vhuren | >> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries. |
| 01:37.59 | vhuren | >> |
| 01:37.59 | vhuren | >> You must have Ncurses installed in order |
| 01:37.59 | vhuren | >> to use 'make menuconfig' |
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| 01:38.06 | zignig | mwilson: transistion is always a pain in the butt :) |
| 01:38.14 | vhuren | sorry about that but I have those ncurses installed |
| 01:38.17 | vhuren | can someone help me |
| 01:38.18 | vhuren | ? |
| 01:38.22 | mwilson | vhuren: Except that you don't, of course. |
| 01:38.24 | nvz | vhuren: libncurses5-dev |
| 01:38.28 | Supaplex | s/pain in the butt/PITA!/ |
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| 01:38.35 | vhuren | nvz: thank you bro ;) |
| 01:38.44 | nvz | vhuren: dont be a moron, you should have read the channel guidelines, and the topic |
| 01:38.57 | mwilson | zignig: No, first we have deliberate breakage because he uses 2.6, then it's like "oh, yeah, I guess not", and then things work again. |
| 01:39.05 | Supaplex | like the #FLOOD part. |
| 01:39.21 | vhuren | nvz wont happen again |
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| 01:39.31 | FieldySnuts | !topicsmite vhuren |
| 01:39.31 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon vhuren. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 01:39.35 | Supaplex | I'm sure someone else will. |
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| 01:40.01 | zignig | mwilson: gnuplot is cool, nearly as good as rrd :) |
| 01:40.18 | nvz | !gnuplot |
| 01:40.19 | dpkg | from memory, gnuplot is a graphing and plotting program which has nothing to do directly with the GNU project - see http://www.ucc.ie/gnuplot/gnuplot-faq.html [1.2] for the naming history |
| 01:40.36 | mwilson | Oh, here we go, another 2.6-specific change to hotplug. Can my heart stand the strain... |
| 01:40.48 | simonrvn | @comfort mwilson |
| 01:40.52 | ravenbird | There, there, mwilson. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 01:41.33 | beta3 | mwilson: I don't understand why anybody bothers with udev/hotplug, its going to have a very short life |
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| 01:42.56 | beta3 | mwilson: its still unrealistic in most situations |
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| 01:43.07 | mwilson | beta3: hotplug has uses... but what do you expect to replace udev? |
| 01:43.39 | Supaplex | antiquity |
| 01:43.46 | mwilson | beta3: The morons have been trained that having an empty /dev magically makes them 'leet... what're they going to use when it's gone? |
| 01:43.47 | beta3 | mwilson: hotplug is like a discoverN, udev is userspace, major distributions like red hat can't support something thats non-standard |
| 01:44.22 | beta3 | mwilson: I can't even count how many developers red hat hires to work on the kernels |
| 01:44.38 | lowks | how do i list the updates on my debian box without actually installing them ? |
| 01:44.43 | mwilson | beta3: Uh, ok, if you say so... I have no idea how that's relevant, but if you say so. |
| 01:44.47 | g0llum_ | beta3: i don't think udev will be ephimeral |
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| 01:45.14 | g0llum_ | beta3: it's simple... things should be the way udev makes it be |
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| 01:45.23 | mwilson | g0llum_: And why is that? |
| 01:45.35 | remilard | lowks: apt-get -u update will list all packages to be upgraded, installed new, suggested and recommends, you can tell it no if you don't want to do it |
| 01:45.39 | mwilson | I have yet to hear a single intelligent reason why not to simply have a static /dev |
| 01:46.00 | lowks | thanks remilard |
| 01:46.06 | nvz | _intelligent_ |
| 01:46.07 | beta3 | g0llum_: there must be a reason why every other kernel has just suddenly switched to the same devfs provided by BSD |
| 01:46.22 | beta3 | g0llum_: it fixed most of the problems our current devfs has |
| 01:46.28 | mwilson | Other than moronic "oooohh, no, Mr. Bill"-type morons whining about how there are device nodes they don't use. |
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| 01:48.06 | g0llum_ | beta3: did you read the devfs vs udev paper from greg k-h ? |
| 01:48.12 | Gnea | you know, rm isn't just there to remind us how much the recycle bin sucks... |
| 01:48.27 | beta3 | g0llum_: yes, but as I said, BSD devfs fixed majority of our problems we have with our devfs |
| 01:48.43 | Tweak22 | would walkthoughs for raid 1 ing a allready installed linux machine be in howtos? or manuals? or what? |
| 01:48.44 | sirReal | mwilson: before i knew what udev did, i though "it must be cool, it's hyped so much" ... maybe i'll never learn |
| 01:48.49 | g0llum_ | beta3: mmm, i didn't know it |
| 01:48.50 | zignig | Gnea: I much prefer novells way of keeping old files so you can get them back in (L)user stoopidity. |
| 01:48.51 | mwilson | g0llum_: I read it. The point is, there's no rason to use either one. |
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| 01:48.57 | Gnea | mwilson: you're not alone, i still don't use devfs |
| 01:49.09 | Gnea | zignig: heh |
| 01:49.18 | beta3 | g0llum_: if someone spends the time to make a devfs2 based on BSD devfs, we will have udev's replacement |
| 01:49.28 | g0llum_ | beta3: i really prefer the devfs approach, but if it have inherent races, it |
| 01:49.38 | g0llum_ | beta3: is safe to assume another solution |
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| 01:49.43 | nvz | I dont use devfs, but I have absolutly _no_ reasons, intelligent or otherwise to do so |
| 01:50.00 | g0llum_ | beta3: kernel hackers used to say that our devfs have inherent races... |
| 01:50.21 | mwilson | nvz: I don't do things because I can't think of reasons not to. When there's a reason to use udev, I will. So far, there are none. |
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| 01:50.36 | nvz | I cant even imagine a reason, and expload it out of proportion to where it wouls seem like a good idea |
| 01:50.37 | beta3 | !dict inherient |
| 01:50.39 | dpkg | could not find definition for inherient |
| 01:50.44 | beta3 | !dict inherent |
| 01:50.46 | dpkg | Dictionary 'inherent' (3 shown; 5 total): in the nature of something though not readily apparent; "shortcomings inherent in our approach"; "an underlying meaning" ;; present at birth but not necessarily hereditary; acquired during fetal development ;; The sore disease which seems inherent in civilization. --Southey.. |
| 01:51.32 | mwilson | nvz: udev is the typical nuclear-weapons approach to solving a very small problem. |
| 01:51.42 | g0llum_ | after a little time here, don't dude i'll would write something like !make coffee and the bot will make it ;) |
| 01:52.00 | beta3 | g0llum_: I don't trust something with a changable naming scheme and running in userspace, where the user should even be able to mess with it |
| 01:52.07 | beta3 | mwilson: right |
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| 01:52.23 | beta3 | mwilson: in other words, we should call it Bush method |
| 01:52.35 | nvz | heh |
| 01:52.38 | g0llum_ | beta3: that is in good sysadmin land |
| 01:52.42 | beta3 | mwilson: I bet every minute of the day bush would want to press the nuclear weapons button |
| 01:52.45 | lazy | when i start X, the mouse is frozen. physically it's connected and working and all. any ideas? |
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| 01:52.50 | Demosthenes | howdy folks. any points on how to setup eth0 by the command line (noninteractively) or via text files? |
| 01:52.57 | lispy | i upgraded to debian testing from stable and now I get this message all the time:$ emacs |
| 01:52.57 | lispy | /usr/bin/emacs: /usr/local/lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/bin/emacs) |
| 01:53.04 | mwilson | Demosthenes: man 5 interfaces |
| 01:53.23 | Demosthenes | yeehaw! |
| 01:53.24 | Nosf3ratu | Would you guys recommend using freetype or xtt for x-ttcidfont's backend? |
| 01:53.30 | mwilson | Another clueless one. |
| 01:53.31 | beta3 | g0llum_: as I said, I treat all users as idiots until proven otherwise, thats my backing behind devfs |
| 01:53.31 | nvz | beta3: yeah but he'd have his geeks telling him, how it takes 2 hrs to relaod. |
| 01:53.35 | mwilson | <sigh> |
| 01:53.49 | Demosthenes | mwilson: but that i knew ;] |
| 01:53.55 | Nosf3ratu | Demosthenes, man /etc/interfaces |
| 01:53.59 | Demosthenes | mwilson: the issue is the host and domain name. |
| 01:54.07 | mwilson | beta3: Huh? So users are morons. What else is new? |
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| 01:54.22 | beta3 | mwilson: kernel hackers never seem to take that into account |
| 01:54.25 | mwilson | Demosthenes: man hostname |
| 01:54.45 | beta3 | mwilson: had that been taken more seriously, udev would have been rejected by Linus |
| 01:54.46 | g0llum_ | beta3: i thought that shouldn't be a policy, following that policy the kernel will grow and grow to ensure the least possible in userspace in order to keep things pretty away from stupid idiots usesrs |
| 01:54.46 | Demosthenes | mwilson: too true! yet thats a temporary fix. |
| 01:54.53 | mwilson | beta3: Hm? It's not relevant. What problem are you expecting to solve with devfs? |
| 01:54.58 | Supaplex | !make coffee |
| 01:54.58 | mwilson | Demosthenes: Wrong again. |
| 01:55.00 | Demosthenes | mwilson: the issue is what files does debian use to store those. |
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| 01:55.25 | beta3 | mwilson: people who complain devnodes aren't there, and shouldn't have thier hands in the blender |
| 01:55.28 | g0llum_ | beta3: where you read that linux rejected it ? |
| 01:55.42 | Tweak22 | anybody ever heard of mdadm? its a raid managing program.. is it good? bad? does it create raid? or does it just monitor it? |
| 01:55.45 | beta3 | g0llum_: s/had/if/ |
| 01:55.51 | mwilson | Demosthenes: So, when are you actually going to bother reading the man page, then? |
| 01:55.59 | Demosthenes | mwilson: scanned it already |
| 01:56.06 | mwilson | Demosthenes: You're lying. |
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| 01:56.33 | gabaod | does anyone know.. the package 'reaim' does it need to run on the firewall itself, or can it run on a machine behind the firewall and still work? |
| 01:56.35 | g0llum_ | should leave, grrr... |
| 01:56.43 | beta3 | Demosthenes: you have too little balls on your head next to your peanut size brain, try using them |
| 01:56.44 | Nurbs | Tweak22: apt-cache show mdadm |
| 01:56.49 | mwilson | Demosthenes: Since, after all, the man page describes the standard place where all the information is stored. |
| 01:57.17 | Vladkao | Demosthenes: just don't argue. you'll never win :) |
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| 01:57.34 | mwilson | Vladkao: I see no reason to coddle liars. |
| 01:57.36 | Demosthenes | mwilson: yep. /etc/hostname contains the host. twas the dns domain info i'm looking for. |
| 01:57.44 | Demosthenes | mwilson: and apparently its resolved by using resolv ;] |
| 01:57.52 | Demosthenes | Vladkao: obviously ;] |
| 01:58.07 | mwilson | Demosthenes: And apparently it works as it's described in the man page, you jackass. |
| 01:58.22 | mwilson | Gods, no wonder the 'net is in the shape it's in. |
| 01:58.26 | m4lu5 | OK. well. looks like i have yet another lousy recycled laptop from my IT dept. |
| 01:58.39 | m4lu5 | battery life of 30 seconds? hah. love it. |
| 01:58.42 | Demosthenes | mwilson: i'll just take it you work internet helpdesk as your dayjob and leave it at that. ;] |
| 01:58.55 | mwilson | Demosthenes: You'd be wrong. Again. |
| 01:59.13 | Demosthenes | mwilson: but specifically, i was curious what the "debianized" way was... the only difference between distros is the admin tools, and there are others that call a command, etc... |
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| 01:59.59 | Demosthenes | mwilson: redhat's got those obnoxious /etc/sysconfig/network files of key/value pairs ... |
| 02:00.32 | Vladkao | Demosthenes: man interfaces... |
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| 02:00.32 | Demosthenes | oi! |
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| 02:00.40 | mwilson | Demosthenes: <sigh> Go away now. Be clueless somewhere else. |
| 02:00.41 | lispy | any clue why i get the libpng12.so.0 warnings? |
| 02:00.50 | dampjam | What is the best way in debian to rip a dvd to the hard drive without loosing any quality |
| 02:00.51 | Demosthenes | Vladkao: i think my initial point was interfaces didn't cover hostnames. ;] |
| 02:00.56 | Vladkao | it is strange, how a small file like "man interfaces" is so hard to read. |
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| 02:01.02 | Nurbs | gah |
| 02:01.05 | mwilson | Vladkao: Yeah, isn't it? |
| 02:01.22 | Vladkao | Demosthenes: /etc/hosts /etc/resolv.conf. anything else ? |
| 02:01.23 | mwilson | Vladkao: And he still can't be bothered to read the hostname man page, either. |
| 02:01.33 | Tweak22 | is it possible to patch your kernel to give raid support? |
| 02:02.02 | mwilson | Vladkao: More importand to continue demonstrating his stupidity, I suppose. |
| 02:02.02 | Nurbs | Tweak22: configure and compile one |
| 02:02.02 | mwilson | Tweak22: Why would you need to patch it for that? |
| 02:02.02 | Vladkao | mwilson: argue or die. :) |
| 02:02.16 | Demosthenes | Vladkao: actually, that answer would have sufficed in the beginning. "there is no debianized way, just use /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts". |
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| 02:02.28 | lispy | mwilson, Vladkao you guys should stop bitching about people, i'd rather not see it spam across the screen, esp in #debian |
| 02:02.30 | vhuren | mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.6.0.img 2.6.0 |
| 02:02.30 | Tweak22 | mwilson becuase I dont have the /proc/mdstat |
| 02:02.35 | mwilson | Demosthenes: Except, of course, that wasn't what you asked. |
| 02:02.37 | Demosthenes | Vladkao: obviously i'm sick in the head and suffering from distribution whiplash. |
| 02:02.40 | vhuren | when doing that command what does the 2.6.0 stand for? |
| 02:02.58 | vhuren | is it a dir in /usr/src/linux? |
| 02:02.59 | mwilson | Tweak22: Is there some reason you should? Does your current kernel have RAID support compiled into it? |
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| 02:03.18 | Vladkao | Demosthenes: it is good when you do it "on your own". makes you remember. no hard feelings |
| 02:03.27 | Tweak22 | mwilson I would hope 2.6.4 does ... but it doenst have the mdstat file I need to build the software raid.. |
| 02:03.33 | Tweak22 | (software raid) not hardware |
| 02:03.44 | mwilson | Tweak22: Why would you "hope" that it does? |
| 02:03.44 | Demosthenes | Vladkao: *laugh* i don't take offense on irc. its too time consuming. ;] |
| 02:03.53 | Tweak22 | mwilson becuase isnt it the newest version? |
| 02:03.56 | Justin_ | mwilson: he's been breaking his kernel for the past like 3 days |
| 02:04.03 | mwilson | Tweak22: If you want RAID support, why didn't you build it into the kernel? |
| 02:04.08 | Justin_ | mwilson: he doesn't understand the concept of configuring it |
| 02:04.09 | Tweak22 | justing is correct haha |
| 02:04.18 | mwilson | Justin_: Yeah, I know he's stupid. |
| 02:04.21 | Tweak22 | mwilson didnt think i would need to |
| 02:04.21 | Demosthenes | Vladkao: but actually, i'm simply trying to integrate CFEngine into my debian system so i can rollout a few servers. *shrug* i've got redhat, gentoo, slackware, etc... and they each have their own way of doing things. |
| 02:04.30 | Tweak22 | never said I was smart |
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| 02:04.47 | Tweak22 | but im glad you feel better about yourself. |
| 02:04.47 | mwilson | Tweak22: Really? When did I say you didn't need to configure your kernel? |
| 02:04.51 | Vladkao | Demosthenes: the biggest difference is "man interfaces" part. |
| 02:04.57 | Tweak22 | mwilson you never did say this |
| 02:05.03 | Tweak22 | I just asked if it is possible to patch it |
| 02:05.11 | brc007 | I've compiled a kernel twice as per the newbie doc instructions and when I try to boot it from grub the system simply restarts. ARGH! |
| 02:05.16 | mwilson | Tweak22: And I asked you why you'd need to patch it. |
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| 02:05.19 | Demosthenes | Vladkao: thanks ;] |
| 02:05.22 | brc007 | ANY sugestions on where to start looking? |
| 02:05.26 | Tweak22 | that is all I asked and you go off being mean like all you hard core linux guys.. |
| 02:05.32 | Justin_ | brc007: you need to configure it correctly |
| 02:05.38 | mwilson | Tweak22: Apparently you think there's something wrong with the RAID support that's already in the kernel? |
| 02:05.45 | Tweak22 | yes |
| 02:05.51 | mwilson | Tweak22: And what would that be? |
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| 02:05.55 | brc007 | Justin_: the problem is I have no idea which part of the config might be the problem |
| 02:06.06 | Justin_ | brc007: use a debian kernel then |
| 02:06.07 | mwilson | Tweak22: I'm sure you're wonderfully qualified to voice this opinion... |
| 02:06.08 | Tweak22 | mwilson it doesnt have the file I need to run um .. mdadm |
| 02:06.11 | hanasaki | how do i determine which of the many mesa libs to install? |
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| 02:06.30 | Justin_ | hanasaki: why would you need to install any of them? |
| 02:06.32 | GomoX | hi |
| 02:06.35 | Spec | Tweak22: we should start a support system for those young newbies that have been flamed in this channel. |
| 02:06.38 | hanasaki | for blender |
| 02:06.40 | GomoX | beta3: you there? |
| 02:06.41 | Tweak22 | im qualified to voice my option when I think someone is being mean. |
| 02:06.44 | Justin_ | hanasaki: apt-get install blender |
| 02:06.45 | Demosthenes | mwilson: thanks for the help. hope you're over your period real soon now. ;] *grin* |
| 02:06.50 | beta3 | hey GomoX |
| 02:06.51 | mwilson | Tweak22: So, in other words, what you're *actually* whining about is the fact that the kernel you're running doesn't have RAID support compiled into it, not that there's something wrong with the RAID support that isn't compiled into it. |
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| 02:07.07 | hanasaki | Justin_: thanks good point |
| 02:07.20 | GomoX | beta3: hey - i just wrote a little tutorial (in spanish, but you said you could read it) about my widget-accessing class for pygtk |
| 02:07.25 | Nurbs | Demosthenes: just use ignore, it gets boring |
| 02:07.25 | mwilson | Tweak22: Which begs the question, if you think you need RAID support, whyinhell aren't you using a kernel that has such support turned on? |
| 02:07.25 | Tweak22 | mwilson ok so your saying there is no other way? I just have to put it in when I compile? |
| 02:07.27 | Tweak22 | ok thanks |
| 02:07.33 | GomoX | beta3: you might want to check it out: http://www.gomox.com.ar/single.php?id=136 |
| 02:07.36 | beta3 | GomoX: I wrote a few of my own classes |
| 02:07.44 | beta3 | GomoX: Im near finished my program |
| 02:07.45 | Demosthenes | Nurbs: i bet. ;] |
| 02:07.46 | Tweak22 | I can do without the sarcasm |
| 02:08.02 | mwilson | Tweak22: Oh? Then switch your brain on. |
| 02:08.04 | GomoX | beta3: heh good then - i just remembered i was talking with you about this the other day :) |
| 02:08.08 | beta3 | GomoX: I rebegan glade work, and got it mostly working, except, the gui locks up when its handling my convert function |
| 02:08.23 | beta3 | GomoX: it unlocks after its done tho |
| 02:08.31 | Tweak22 | mwilson geezes im sorry im a newbie im sure you wernt a linux pro comming out of your mom were you? |
| 02:08.48 | GomoX | beta3: check the gtk.main_iteration() function to avoid that |
| 02:08.50 | beta3 | GomoX: http://mirrorlynx.com/people/dan/mailbox2dbmail-1.6pre4.tar.gz |
| 02:08.58 | beta3 | GomoX: could you help me fix that |
| 02:09.02 | Justin_ | Tweak22: yet you feel the need to compile a kernel |
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| 02:09.17 | Justin_ | Tweak22: without making even the slightest effort to learn how first |
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| 02:09.21 | mwilson | Tweak22: I actually bothered to learn something about what I was doing. What's your excuse? |
| 02:09.22 | Vladkao | Tweak22: he just wants you to *think*. he's a little hard on it, but ... :) |
| 02:09.25 | Tweak22 | justin_ well I have to now to enable software raid right? |
| 02:09.32 | GomoX | beta3: while gtk.events_pending(): |
| 02:09.32 | GomoX | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:09.38 | Justin_ | Tweak22: duh |
| 02:09.38 | beta3 | ok |
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| 02:09.49 | Tweak22 | justin_ ok thanks .. I think . |
| 02:09.50 | GomoX | beta3: do that before your blocking function - that should do. Or use threads, but its more complicated. |
| 02:09.58 | beta3 | GomoX: /me modifies the update_ui() function which used gtk.mainloop() instead of gtk.main_iteration() |
| 02:10.12 | GomoX | beta3: heh |
| 02:10.58 | Tweak22 | justin_ I can compile the same kernel again right? and load the setting is has now? and just add raid support? |
| 02:10.58 | Caveman-Deb | what packages do I need to compile a kernel in debian ? |
| 02:11.09 | GomoX | Caveman-: kernel-package and build-essential |
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| 02:11.17 | Justin_ | Tweak22: you could also install a working debian kernel and be done with it. |
| 02:11.27 | XeroShadow | anyone ever encounter, dboostrap retunrs error 1? when installind debian? |
| 02:11.28 | Tweak22 | justin_ ok |
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| 02:11.46 | Caveman-Deb | ok thanks |
| 02:11.51 | beta3 | GomoX: perfect! thanks! |
| 02:11.53 | Caveman-Deb | whats the kernel-package have in it ? |
| 02:11.56 | ttaranto | to install a DNS CACHE server at mail qmail mail server I just need to apt-get install bind, right? is it correctly ? |
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| 02:12.34 | ttaranto | ? |
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| 02:12.39 | beta3 | Caveman-Deb: a preconfigured brain for general idiots |
| 02:13.03 | beta3 | GomoX: worked like a charm |
| 02:13.04 | flugh | can i get hdparm to run automagically at start up, or otherwise enable dma on my hard drives? |
| 02:13.07 | Caveman-Deb | beta3: I see. thats nice.. |
| 02:13.09 | Kai | what do i do when debconf gets into a cycle where it dosent want me to hold a package (keeps bring me back to the same screen)? |
| 02:13.10 | Nurbs | ttaranto: install and configure (by hand, probably). you could use some other daemon, too. |
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| 02:13.13 | GomoX | beta3: no problem |
| 02:13.13 | GomoX | theres a great FAQ on pygtk.org with all this stuff |
| 02:13.20 | Caveman-Deb | I am new to debian and trying my best to work things out |
| 02:13.26 | Caveman-Deb | so cut me some bloody slack |
| 02:13.39 | Vladkao | flugh: it is generally a bad idea. |
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| 02:13.58 | flugh | Vladkao, really? |
| 02:13.58 | Lemming | Caveman-Deb, we just seem to be getting alot of people trying to run before they can even crawl... |
| 02:13.59 | ttaranto | Nurbs thanks! DJBDNS is a good choice ? or bind is ok too / |
| 02:14.00 | ttaranto | ? |
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| 02:14.05 | noseman | gcc and libncuerses5-dev |
| 02:14.10 | Vladkao | flugh: i mean, using hdparm. |
| 02:14.30 | flugh | is there a better kernel-level option? |
| 02:14.37 | Nurbs | ttaranto: both should be ok, you'll probably have less trouble and more docs with bind. security-wise both should do, too, if you configure it properly for the mail server. |
| 02:14.43 | Kai | flugh: just use -K1 to keep changes across restarts |
| 02:14.51 | Caveman-Deb | Lemming: well I have used linux A LOT.. and I have been using slackware for the best part of a year.. |
| 02:14.52 | ttaranto | thanks Nurbs |
| 02:15.05 | flugh | hdparm -K1...? |
| 02:15.07 | Caveman-Deb | my main problem is that i don't know what all the packname etc are |
| 02:15.14 | ceberino | i have p4 with built-in sis900 ethernet, what eth driver should i choose on woody, its not listed? |
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| 02:15.31 | GomoX | Candover: man apt-cache, that should help |
| 02:15.34 | flugh | aah, k. thanks! |
| 02:15.44 | GomoX | s/Candover/Caveman-Deb |
| 02:15.48 | Nurbs | ceberino: sis900 iirc. but dunno if the debian kernels contain it... |
| 02:16.05 | Caveman-Deb | GomX: thanks I wil chech that out |
| 02:16.08 | Nurbs | ceberino: probably requires a newer one |
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| 02:16.54 | ceberino | yaiks! any alternative from the woody listed drivers? |
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| 02:17.00 | WAR_CH|LD | you know how you got linux commands, like | and || and >> and > and all that, which can do various things, firstly.. what are these called? or where can I find some documentation on all of these types of useful cmds? |
| 02:17.04 | Nurbs | ceberino: don't think so |
| 02:17.14 | Gnea | WAR_CH|LD: google.com |
| 02:17.20 | Tweak22 | is module-init-tools an option in kernel configuring? |
| 02:17.32 | Tweak22 | becuase when ever I make one it doesnt have it when i restart... |
| 02:17.33 | WAR_CH|LD | Gnea yeah, I do not know what they are called |
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| 02:17.36 | WAR_CH|LD | so what am I searching? |
| 02:17.38 | toolchest | WAR_CH|LD: pipe. |
| 02:17.39 | Tweak22 | makes it hard to get network drivers.. |
| 02:17.39 | GomoX | Tweak22: no, ets a package |
| 02:17.39 | Nurbs | WAR_CH|LD: man bash, for a lot of those "commands" |
| 02:17.40 | Kai | WAR_CH|LD: those are shell commands |
| 02:17.47 | Gnea | WAR_CH|LD: well, they are commands.. for linux... soooo.... |
| 02:17.53 | Xenguy | WAR_CH|LD: pipes and re-direction (but yeh, check out a good linux intro book or on-line resource) |
| 02:17.55 | GomoX | Tweak22: you don have modules when you build your kernel? |
| 02:18.02 | Gnea | WAR_CH|LD: tried "linux commands"? |
| 02:18.02 | GomoX | Tweak22: are you using kernel-package? |
| 02:18.09 | Tweak22 | gomox um |
| 02:18.13 | WAR_CH|LD | yeah, Gnea you try it |
| 02:18.16 | WAR_CH|LD | and look what you don't get |
| 02:18.22 | Tweak22 | gomex what do you mean? |
| 02:18.28 | mwilson | hmmm... whyinhell do I have w3m installed? |
| 02:18.30 | Tweak22 | gomex im not using apt-get to get kernel |
| 02:18.37 | Tweak22 | gomex im downloading it |
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| 02:18.53 | Gnea | oh look at that |
| 02:18.58 | Gnea | first and second link |
| 02:19.02 | ceberino | thanks nurbs. anyone have solution for my sis900 ethernet dirver for woody? |
| 02:19.08 | Gnea | WAR_CH|LD: i find plenty. you must have an intelligence issue. |
| 02:19.12 | Nurbs | ceberino: compile new kernel. |
| 02:19.39 | Gnea | follow the links.. dig a little |
| 02:19.54 | WAR_CH|LD | yeah, anway |
| 02:19.56 | Gnea | this isn't windows, you have to actually put some time and effort into it |
| 02:20.01 | WAR_CH|LD | ty for those of you whom are helpful |
| 02:20.09 | JimButton | s/whom/who/ |
| 02:20.10 | Gnea | you're welcome. |
| 02:20.13 | GomoX | Tweak22: how are you building your kernels? |
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| 02:20.24 | beta3 | GomoX: how do whats the syntax for a quick html url |
| 02:20.25 | Tweak22 | gomox yes |
| 02:20.30 | Gnea | heh |
| 02:20.31 | beta3 | GomoX: <a href ... |
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| 02:21.21 | Tweak22 | gomox oh how |
| 02:21.31 | Tweak22 | gomox im downloding it and then running make config |
| 02:21.40 | Tweak22 | make menuconfig |
| 02:21.56 | mwilson | Tweak22: And the reason you don't just use a Debian kernel-image would be? |
| 02:22.09 | mwilson | Tweak22: After all, you've already shown you're incompetent. |
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| 02:22.43 | GomoX | beta3: <a href="url">hi</a> /j #html xD |
| 02:22.53 | Tweak22 | I have to have smp and high mem support and software raid support |
| 02:23.03 | JimButton | mwilson: maybe some wacko package depends on w3m? i have seen the strangest things... |
| 02:23.08 | beta3 | GomoX: thanks |
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| 02:23.17 | JimButton | haven't checked though |
| 02:23.18 | dampjam | what is the base debian package to get to be ablet o compile most programs/ |
| 02:23.20 | GomoX | Tweak22: kernel-images from debian do that |
| 02:23.21 | GomoX | anyway, read the docs on newbiedoc.sf.net about kernel-package, Debian´s Way for kernels |
| 02:23.41 | douglas_om | dampjam, run "tasksel" and select "C and C++ stuff" |
| 02:23.41 | GomoX | !kpkg |
| 02:23.41 | dpkg | hmm... kpkg is a KDE package manager designed for handling RPM files, but can also somewhat handle debs. If you're looking for kernel-package ask me about that instead |
| 02:23.48 | Tweak22 | gomox I allready got 2.6.4 working .. I just wana get the modprob working on start up and raid capable.. |
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| 02:23.51 | GomoX | !kernel-package |
| 02:23.51 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz (use zless or lynx), or http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html |
| 02:23.53 | GomoX | clever bot |
| 02:24.01 | GomoX | oh the link is already there :/ |
| 02:24.15 | GomoX | Tweak22: do you have root on software raid? |
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| 02:24.34 | mwilson | JimButton: Dunno. It's been promoted to Priority: Standard for some silly-ass reason, though. |
| 02:25.03 | Tweak22 | gomox I have everything on one driver right now and another drive same size with no partitions on it .. I wana mirror it |
| 02:25.06 | Tweak22 | and run raid 1 |
| 02:25.18 | JimButton | mwilson: huh? that sounds strange |
| 02:25.39 | GomoX | Tweak22: ok |
| 02:25.39 | GomoX | then read newbiedoc.sourceforge.net veeery carefully |
| 02:25.39 | GomoX | and get a recent LILO too, after that |
| 02:25.56 | Tweak22 | I was told to do grub but I cant figure it out |
| 02:26.01 | mwilson | JimButton: * set priority to standard |
| 02:26.03 | FieldySnuts | !lart GomoX |
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| 02:26.09 | Vladkao | GomoX: woody's lilo is fine with me. what's wrong anyway ? |
| 02:26.14 | Tweak22 | gomox what catagory is raid in in the menuconfig ? |
| 02:26.34 | mwilson | JimButton: I can't imagine why anyone with even half a clue would use w3m for anything serious. |
| 02:26.42 | GomoX | Vladkao: for root-on-raid? |
| 02:26.49 | GomoX | Tweak22: multiple device support |
| 02:26.52 | sparr | is there any way to unpack a .MSI archive in linux? |
| 02:27.02 | FieldySnuts | sparr: doubt it |
| 02:27.06 | GomoX | FieldySnuts: why is that? |
| 02:27.07 | sparr | as do I |
| 02:27.07 | Vladkao | GomoX: ah, ok. :)P |
| 02:27.14 | Tweak22 | gomox OH there it is thanks so much |
| 02:27.15 | FieldySnuts | !confuse GomoX |
| 02:27.16 | dpkg | yes, them was my badger tomorrow, GomoX ? by order of the monarchy of belarus with extra cream |
| 02:27.17 | Tweak22 | sneak |
| 02:27.18 | Tweak22 | y |
| 02:27.26 | GomoX | !penixstrike FieldySnuts |
| 02:27.26 | dpkg | don't use me for penixstrike! use ~penixstrike instead since someone fucked with mine |
| 02:27.31 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 02:27.35 | GomoX | sh*t |
| 02:27.39 | GomoX | ~penixstrike FieldySnuts |
| 02:27.41 | apt | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking FieldySnuts to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
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| 02:27.55 | Vladkao | haha |
| 02:27.58 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 02:28.04 | GomoX | so youve been hax0ring the bots so i cant penixstrike you |
| 02:28.04 | sgeigerbot | sparr: I don't think so. Can't you use a Windows program to unpack it? |
| 02:28.11 | Vladkao | a little fun is ok. but don't abuse the bots :) |
| 02:28.18 | Spark | can debian install from floppy disks, with pcmcia netcard? |
| 02:28.21 | sgeigerbot | beta3: btw, god is dead. |
| 02:28.28 | FieldySnuts | GomoX: not me, i thought the bots were kept in sync anyway. i don't remove other people's stuff, that's BS |
| 02:28.28 | mwilson | Spark: Certainly. |
| 02:28.29 | JimButton | mwilson: recently there was some discussion on -devel about text browsers |
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| 02:28.36 | JimButton | mwilson: haven't been following it though |
| 02:28.37 | Tweak22 | if it has an M next to it that means you can install it as a module?? |
| 02:28.38 | FieldySnuts | !+rube goldberg install |
| 02:28.38 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 02:28.39 | Spark | which images would i need to do that |
| 02:28.40 | Vladkao | sparr: why would you unpack *MSI* archive in linux >? |
| 02:28.44 | mwilson | JimButton: I know. I read it. I even contributed a little. |
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| 02:28.50 | JimButton | oh :) |
| 02:28.57 | GomoX | hahah great factoid |
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| 02:29.10 | mwilson | JimButton: It degenerated quickly into my-dick-is-bigger-than-yours. |
| 02:29.13 | Spark | mwilson: i just grabbed boot and root from testing, and there was no trace of cardbus :) |
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| 02:29.23 | mwilson | Spark: If you say so. |
| 02:29.24 | Spark | should i use stable then dist-ugprade to testing? |
| 02:29.30 | beta3 | sgeigerbot: it never existed |
| 02:29.36 | Inc3pt | anyone know how to force dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to write the config file, no matter what? |
| 02:29.42 | sgeigerbot | GomoX: yes, that's a great factoid |
| 02:29.47 | mwilson | Inc3pt: The FAQ entry for that does. |
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| 02:29.51 | Spark | mwilson: i am mistaken? |
| 02:29.52 | toolchest | sgeigerbot: the old joke goes something like this, doesn't it? "god is dead" - nietzsche. "nietzsche is dead" - god. |
| 02:30.02 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 02:30.06 | sparr | Vladkao: to get the files out of them, since its pretty obvious i cant RUN the msi in linux |
| 02:30.08 | Inc3pt | (mwilson): i tried reading the manpage but I couldnt find what I needed to :( |
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| 02:30.36 | sgeigerbot | toolchest: I worry for those people who hear voices. |
| 02:30.38 | mwilson | Spark: I'm not interested in wasting my time finding the information to prove you wrong. I'll just assume that the copy of unstable now on my Thinkpad got there through magic, and be done with it. |
| 02:30.48 | Vladkao | sparr: i will not ask why do you need the files, but isn't MSI, just a cab archive + extras ? |
| 02:31.01 | sparr | Vladkao: it doesnt appear to be |
| 02:31.12 | FieldySnuts | toolchest: if God is all-powerful, can he create a rock so heavy, even he can't lift i? |
| 02:31.15 | FieldySnuts | toolchest: if God is all-powerful, can he create a rock so heavy, even he can't lift it? |
| 02:31.20 | Inc3pt | (mwilson): found it on google, thanks |
| 02:31.21 | helix | haha |
| 02:31.22 | JimButton | FieldySnuts: jehova |
| 02:31.38 | toolchest | FieldySnuts: in case you were wondering, I fall on the "God is dead" side of the joke. |
| 02:31.39 | FieldySnuts | religious folks HATE that question |
| 02:31.41 | helix | hmm |
| 02:31.55 | FieldySnuts | you can't answer it without screwing somebody over heh |
| 02:31.57 | Spark | mwilson: its ok i believe you, i think i must have donwloaded the wrong images |
| 02:31.58 | JimButton | toolchest: well, i fall on both sides, i think nietzsche is also dead |
| 02:32.02 | peterS | FieldySnuts: why? it's a cute way to show your ignorance of the principles of logic. I find it amusing |
| 02:32.14 | helix | JimButton: heh |
| 02:32.15 | JimButton | toolchest: however, if you have evidence to the contrary, just show it... |
| 02:32.16 | FieldySnuts | peterS: works for me. i can teach you |
| 02:32.30 | helix | !disinfect my speedtouch |
| 02:32.36 | FieldySnuts | heh |
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| 02:33.00 | FieldySnuts | !seen maltor |
| 02:33.00 | dpkg | maltor <fwuser@68-248-76-68.ded.ameritech.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 9h 15m 46s ago, saying: 'unf'. |
| 02:33.03 | toolchest | JimButton: I'm agnostic. I'd ask you for the same thing. |
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| 02:33.36 | JimButton | toolchest: i don't really think god is dead, i think he just doesn't exist |
| 02:33.39 | JimButton | toolchest: :) |
| 02:34.06 | sgeigerbot | JimButton: I wonder what percentage of "computer literate" people are non-believers |
| 02:34.07 | JimButton | but as a symbol and idea, he is very much alive and kicking |
| 02:34.28 | FieldySnuts | mwilson: look into the secure deletion toolkit, make sure it's really gone |
| 02:34.35 | helix | according to orkut, quite a few.. |
| 02:34.36 | FieldySnuts | can't have it hanging about in ram |
| 02:34.40 | JimButton | sgeigerbot: no idea, but i think the biologists are the most agnostic scientists, according to some studies |
| 02:34.40 | FieldySnuts | swap, filesystems etc |
| 02:34.58 | MepisBelle | Maybe it isn't that God doesn't exist ... Maybe he just doesn't give a shit. |
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| 02:35.00 | ecstatix | have a question - i have 2 sources for unstable in my list, as in the same tree from 2 different servers. why does the first time i do apt-get update, the package list downloads, and then theres an error saying lots of things, and tells me to apt-get update again to fix the problem. so i run apt-get update and it does'nt download anything, just hits the servers and then works fine. why does this happen? |
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| 02:35.19 | dampjam | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.19 | dampjam | dh_testdir |
| 02:35.19 | dampjam | make: dh_testdir: Command not found |
| 02:35.24 | dampjam | sorry about the paste |
| 02:35.26 | FieldySnuts | lag |
| 02:35.29 | helix | MepisBelle: that was one of the dumbest stoner-esque statements i have ever seen. |
| 02:35.33 | dampjam | what package do I have to install to make that work? |
| 02:35.42 | MepisBelle | helix: You're welcome. |
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| 02:36.05 | JimButton | sgeigerbot: it was in scientific american some time ago |
| 02:36.37 | mwilson | Huh... I wasn't expiring messages from linux-thinkpad |
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| 02:36.56 | bghfhfg | If a network is connected to the Internet through a router, how do you connect to a machine in the network via the Internet? |
| 02:37.02 | Infohawk | I was told comX in windows matches up with ttsyX in linux. Windows says my modem is under COM4. BUt under linux, I only have ttS3, not S4. Where is my modem pointing to? |
| 02:37.11 | FieldySnuts | bghfhfg: port forwarding |
| 02:37.19 | toolchest | JimButton: If there is a god, do you think he'd really want us to spend our time on this earth praying to him. Or would he rather us do stupid things for his voyeuristic pleasure? |
| 02:37.20 | jinnee | I want to connect to pptp server,so I configured my firewall,do the nat and accept the gre protocol,but tcpdump shows that icmp: protocol 47 unreachable,I use 2.6 kernel,is there any problems?how can I handle that? |
| 02:37.22 | peterS | bghfhfg: it's no problem at all. *every* machine is connected to the Internet through *lots* of routers |
| 02:37.27 | ecstatix | Infohawk: http://www.linmodems.org |
| 02:37.29 | sgeigerbot | JimButton: http://kspark.kaist.ac.kr/Jesus/Intelligence%20&%20religion.htm |
| 02:37.32 | JimButton | toolchest: how should i know? |
| 02:37.34 | peterS | bghfhfg: what's one router more or less? |
| 02:37.35 | FieldySnuts | !abuse linmodems |
| 02:37.41 | Vladkao | helix: careful! :) |
| 02:37.54 | Nurbs | Infohawk: most people start counting with 0 |
| 02:37.58 | Spark | mwilson: are the files i should download located at: Index of /debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy |
| 02:38.04 | helix | toolchest: curious - how old are you? |
| 02:38.05 | bghfhfg | peterS: But each machine doesn't have its own IP address- they have internal network IP addresses. |
| 02:38.13 | Infohawk | ecstatix it's not a linmodem |
| 02:38.17 | helix | bghfhfg: FieldySnuts already answered you. |
| 02:38.24 | peterS | bghfhfg: ahhh. then you're not talking about a router, you're talking about a NAT gateway of some sort |
| 02:38.29 | FieldySnuts | :> |
| 02:38.40 | Infohawk | Nurbs, I guess windows doesn't. When I try ttsy3, linux says it can't open the modem. :-/ |
| 02:38.41 | JimButton | toolchest: the problem is, it doesn't really matter whether god exists or not, as long as there are lots of believers he or she or it is pretty much a reality, at least in the form of churches, religions and all that |
| 02:38.44 | ecstatix | Infohawk: then google for "ppp setup linux unruh axion" read the first link |
| 02:38.45 | FieldySnuts | NAT gateways are wanna-be routers |
| 02:38.47 | bghfhfg | What is port forwarding? |
| 02:38.50 | remilard | infohawk comX = ttsy(X-1) |
| 02:39.00 | toolchest | helix: 13. |
| 02:39.03 | bghfhfg | What? |
| 02:39.07 | Vladkao | bghfhfg: you should *really* check google now. |
| 02:39.12 | helix | bghfhfg: when a request is sent to a port (i.e. 80) and forwarded to an internal IP |
| 02:39.27 | JimButton | toolchest: and you can't prove that god exists or doesn't exist, so trying to convince them is sort of idiotic |
| 02:39.34 | helix | toolchest: are you kidding? |
| 02:39.51 | FieldySnuts | i'm 9 1/3 |
| 02:39.53 | Infohawk | thanks |
| 02:39.55 | helix | i guess i will never be able ti find out for sure :) |
| 02:39.56 | toolchest | helix: yes. |
| 02:39.59 | bghfhfg | JimButton: You can't prove that you'll die if you jump off a 1000' cliff, either. Want to try it? |
| 02:40.03 | helix | ah, ok |
| 02:40.07 | vhuren | I have recompiled the kernel and tried to reboot... the system halts when it reaches the ram disk part could someone provide some help to get it back online? |
| 02:40.14 | JimButton | bghfhfg: have something constructive to say? |
| 02:40.18 | JimButton | :) |
| 02:40.22 | JimButton | well, don't know :) |
| 02:40.27 | JimButton | procrastination |
| 02:40.28 | Spark | ok anyone else, what do i need to floppy boot a net install via pcmcia, is it just boot and root, or do i need another disk |
| 02:40.28 | FieldySnuts | somebody on his level |
| 02:40.32 | ecstatix | there is one true robed god. RMS. |
| 02:40.32 | JimButton | good, back to work |
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| 02:40.37 | bghfhfg | So, how do you set up port forwarding? |
| 02:40.41 | FieldySnuts | <3 RMS |
| 02:40.46 | JimButton | ecstatix: and he doesn't smell good, i heard... |
| 02:40.48 | FieldySnuts | apt: rms? |
| 02:40.49 | apt | rms is probably a total freak. i hate that guy. i hope he has an accident with one of the hundreds of guns he has or maybe that's ESR... root mean square. Richard M. Stallman, see info su, or http://www.crackmonkey.org/pipermail/crackmonkey/1998q4/003006.htm |
| 02:40.49 | helix | bghfhfg: netfilter.org read up on iptables |
| 02:40.54 | ecstatix | JimButton: bearded people dont |
| 02:40.57 | toolchest | ecstatix: all hail saint ignucious! |
| 02:41.00 | mwilson | Ok, that's better |
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| 02:41.33 | Spark | mwilson: please help :) |
| 02:41.34 | n3wb | for some reason the windows boxes behind my debian box (with NAT set to route) can't seem to ftp... where would i find the config files for ports? I cant seem to find em |
| 02:41.39 | mwilson | Spark: I have no idea what you should download if you want to use the disaster that is d-i. |
| 02:41.42 | bghfhfg | helix: You mean I have to custom-configure iptables? |
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| 02:41.48 | peterS | bghfhfg: yes |
| 02:41.51 | Kai | how do i tell apt that i really dont care if it can't edit my kernel information because i have it chatter's +i? |
| 02:41.56 | Spark | how should i do it then? |
| 02:41.58 | peterS | bghfhfg: it's not just a checkbox somewhere, if that's what you were thinking |
| 02:42.00 | FieldySnuts | on whatever the NAT gateway is yeah |
| 02:42.01 | helix | bghfhfg: what do you want to do exactly? |
| 02:42.13 | mwilson | Kai: "kernel information"? |
| 02:42.16 | helix | bghfhfg: like, what kind of service do you want to run from the other box? |
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| 02:42.57 | Inc3pt | if my XF86Config-4 file has been deleted, how can I make a new one? dpkg-reconfigure does not work, because it says the file does not exist. |
| 02:43.03 | Spark | mwilson: what was you method of installing sid on your laptop? |
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| 02:43.08 | Spark | *your |
| 02:43.20 | peterS | Inc3pt: unfortunately your best bet is 'dpkg --purge xserver-xfree86; apt-get install xserver-xfree86' |
| 02:43.21 | helix | Inc3pt: you deleted the file? |
| 02:43.27 | mwilson | Spark: Put Woody on it, upgraded to unstable. |
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| 02:43.29 | Inc3pt | (helix): yes :( |
| 02:43.34 | Inc3pt | (helix): it was my stupid fault. |
| 02:43.35 | helix | .. |
| 02:43.39 | Tweak22 | *looking at top* what is us sy ni id wa hi and si ??? |
| 02:43.41 | flugh | Inc3pt, try running 'xf86cfg' should create a config file for you |
| 02:43.41 | tjs | how do I use the but here that finds files in debs? |
| 02:43.43 | helix | repent |
| 02:43.44 | Spark | ok ill try that |
| 02:43.45 | tjs | bot ;) |
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| 02:43.48 | helix | Tweak22: WHAT. THE. FUCK. |
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| 02:43.49 | FieldySnuts | !confuse Tweak22 |
| 02:43.50 | dpkg | yes, them is my mushroom yesterday, Tweak22 ? by order of the dictatorship of mongolia with extra cheese |
| 02:43.54 | Inc3pt | (flugh): thanks a ton |
| 02:43.55 | mwilson | Spark: As you like. |
| 02:44.00 | flugh | Inc3pt, but will probably write it to /usr/X11R6/lib/etc/somthing something |
| 02:44.02 | n3wb | for some reason the boxes (both lin and win)behind my debian box (with NAT set to route) can't seem to ftp... where would i find the config files for ports? I cant seem to find em |
| 02:44.06 | mwilson | oooooh, almost time to order pizza |
| 02:44.11 | helix | pizza pizza! |
| 02:44.12 | FieldySnuts | mwilson: hell yeah |
| 02:44.13 | Inc3pt | flugh: alright, i can move it |
| 02:44.16 | FieldySnuts | i had some last night hhehe |
| 02:44.19 | n3wb | please |
| 02:44.25 | flugh | Inc3pt, had to do that today myself ;) |
| 02:44.35 | n3wb | can u even hear me? |
| 02:44.37 | tjs | dpkg is the resident helpful bot? |
| 02:44.39 | Tweak22 | hehe im looking at top. the task managaer thing.. and it says here I will post it just a sec |
| 02:44.41 | dpkg | tjs: i don't know |
| 02:44.45 | FieldySnuts | lol |
| 02:44.45 | Vladkao | n3wb: yes. |
| 02:44.49 | Spark | mwilson: happen to know how many of these images i need? |
| 02:44.50 | Inc3pt | flugh: do you remember a more exact path? im not the greatest yet at getting completely around. |
| 02:44.53 | csomody | v |
| 02:44.56 | FieldySnuts | tjs: parse error: don't know what the heck you're talking about |
| 02:44.59 | n3wb | Vladkao: thanks |
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| 02:45.06 | Tweak22 | says this Cpu0 : 1.0% us, 0.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 98.7% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si |
| 02:45.06 | Tweak22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.10 | tjs | :P |
| 02:45.12 | FieldySnuts | tjs: I don't know, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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| 02:45.22 | peterS | Tweak22: talking about 'top'? it has a manpage |
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| 02:45.29 | flugh | Inc3pt, no, but that ends up putting you in a gui app, and the dialog pops up with the path. you can change it to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 then if you need |
| 02:45.35 | Vladkao | n3wb: you should use port forwarding + passive ftp. |
| 02:45.41 | Tweak22 | peterS is that normal though ?? never seen it before.. |
| 02:45.46 | flugh | (keep in mind i was using woody/stable) |
| 02:45.47 | Inc3pt | (flugh): oh, okay, thanks :D |
| 02:45.49 | helix | hm |
| 02:45.50 | FieldySnuts | won't need passive unless it's a sh*tty NAT gateway |
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| 02:46.02 | Kai | isnt it called exempting a package when you want apt-get to ignore it? |
| 02:46.12 | peterS | Tweak22: what are you running? it looks like 'top' output, but is it? |
| 02:46.28 | peterS | Kai: put it on hold. /msg dpkg hold |
| 02:46.29 | Tweak22 | peterS its whats on the top of top hehe |
| 02:46.33 | FieldySnuts | it's a very recent version of top in a 2.6 kernel |
| 02:46.40 | peterS | Tweak22: like I said, top has a manpage. it should explain the fields |
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| 02:46.47 | Tweak22 | ok looking |
| 02:46.49 | b2donk | hey how is it going |
| 02:46.50 | FieldySnuts | !rtfm |
| 02:46.50 | dpkg | rtfm is, like, Read The Fucking Manual. If you want to ask a question about foo, please read man foo; before asking. If there isn't a manpage about foo, use apropos to find one. Reading manuals helps us help you. [You might try info foo as well.] |
| 02:46.50 | helix | wtf |
| 02:46.51 | Tweak22 | if it doenst im comming back hehe |
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| 02:46.52 | helix | "man top" |
| 02:47.05 | b2donk | hey i know this off topic - does anyone have orkut membership in here |
| 02:47.13 | helix | b2donk: why? |
| 02:47.16 | peterS | helix: just as well the program isn't called 'ontop' |
| 02:47.18 | b2donk | i wanna join |
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| 02:47.24 | b2donk | and none of my friends have it - |
| 02:47.36 | helix | bummer |
| 02:47.43 | bghfhfg | What is the FrontPage replacement on Linux? |
| 02:47.44 | b2donk | do u have a membership in it |
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| 02:47.46 | peterS | b2donk: if you don't have any friends on orkut, why would you want to be on it? |
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| 02:47.49 | FieldySnuts | bghfhfg: uh. don't go there. |
| 02:47.58 | b2donk | peterS: so i could invite them over |
| 02:48.00 | Spark | vim |
| 02:48.01 | bghfhfg | Why not? |
| 02:48.09 | b2donk | how else am i supposed to bring them in |
| 02:48.16 | bghfhfg | Surely there must be something to edit web pages? |
| 02:48.16 | helix | bghfhfg: well, there is mozilla composer but i think you may not like it because, iirc, it is standards compliant.. |
| 02:48.30 | peterS | helix: heh, good answer |
| 02:48.32 | b2donk | i was just curious if someone had any info on it |
| 02:48.33 | FieldySnuts | bghfhfg: oh i thought you meant extensions to apache. my bad., |
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| 02:48.42 | toolchest | bghfhfg: bluefish i think would do the job. |
| 02:48.45 | helix | b2donk: you'll ruin the 'network' if you join without a friend inviting you |
| 02:48.55 | Tweak22 | hmmm didnt see anything with all those si su ni id wa hi us |
| 02:49.09 | b2donk | helix: that is like catch-22 - how did the original ppl get in it |
| 02:49.11 | peterS | Tweak22: if you don't know what those numbers might mean, why does it matter to you? (: |
| 02:49.18 | helix | b2donk: TINC |
| 02:49.23 | b2donk | TINC ? |
| 02:49.27 | helix | !tinc |
| 02:49.27 | dpkg | somebody said tinc was There Is No Cabal except for Overfiend and Espy, or at http://tinc.nl.linux.org |
| 02:49.31 | Kai | it seems i can't put it on hold for some reason :-\ |
| 02:49.34 | peterS | oh wow, that's old |
| 02:49.39 | b2donk | huh |
| 02:49.40 | peterS | espy is no longer on the Cabal :( |
| 02:49.43 | helix | !+factinfo tinc |
| 02:49.44 | dpkg | tinc -- created by sgore <sgore@207.218.237.133> at Tue Mar 28 05:21:30 2000 (1455 days); last modified at Sun Aug 20 15:02:01 2000 by \ifvoid!bas@warande1131.warande.uu.nl; it has been requested 13 times, last by helix, 17s ago. |
| 02:50.04 | helix | peterS: klecker is though! |
| 02:50.05 | b2donk | helix: i don't follow you |
| 02:50.06 | Tweak22 | peterS I want to know so that some day (such as you) I can know and teach someone else. instead off sitting here for 3 years asking you. |
| 02:50.07 | bghfhfg | I meant a replacement for FrontPage without tags attached. |
| 02:50.15 | helix | bghfhfg: i answered you |
| 02:50.25 | FieldySnuts | helix: he definately has a reading issue |
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| 02:50.28 | Kai | 'kernel-image-2.4-686-smp: Depend: kernel-image-2.4.25-1-686-smp but is not going to be installed' |
| 02:50.38 | helix | FieldySnuts: how do illiterate people get on irc? |
| 02:50.41 | helix | and... type? |
| 02:50.44 | fricky | hey beta3 ! thanks for your help. /sbin/MAKEDEV generic has solved my problem. You have saved me ;) |
| 02:50.45 | FieldySnuts | helix: mIRC. |
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| 02:50.49 | helix | ah. |
| 02:50.54 | helix | + a trained monkey |
| 02:50.58 | FieldySnuts | rightg |
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| 02:51.15 | beta3 | fricky: no problem, thats my job |
| 02:51.24 | Tweak22 | peterS is it just that you dont know? |
| 02:51.31 | bztunk | beta3: oh yeah? that's your job? |
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| 02:51.39 | beta3 | ~badgersmite bztunk |
| 02:51.45 | beta3 | !badgersmite bztunk |
| 02:51.49 | FieldySnuts | HEH |
| 02:51.51 | beta3 | !cafuegosmite bztunk |
| 02:51.51 | bztunk | beta3: 14 years old doesn't have "jobs" on IRC |
| 02:51.58 | FieldySnuts | !ritasmite beta3 |
| 02:52.04 | peterS | Tweak22: I don't know all those fields off the top of my head, no, and I can't be bothered to sit here and read the manual just so you don't have to |
| 02:52.11 | helix | bztunk: sure they do - to flame DD's |
| 02:52.13 | kingsley | Does anyone here happen to know of a utility that prepends a header to postscript files with the file name and date? |
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| 02:52.27 | Tweak22 | peterS I didnt ask you to read the manual I just asked you if you knew. |
| 02:52.33 | Tweak22 | peterS thanks |
| 02:52.37 | fricky | erf, thanks anyway :)) |
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| 02:53.42 | Inc3pt | (flugh): Uh oh...it cant find the glide module to run xf86cfg...:( Do I have any other options? |
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| 02:54.46 | Caveman-Deb | how can I find out what the debian name of ncurses-devel is ?? :/ |
| 02:54.56 | brc007 | to disable apm or acpi I change the grub entry to kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.25.032204 root=/dev/hda3 ro acpi=off apm=off correct? |
| 02:54.59 | assNav | What do I need to setup when I add another NIC? |
| 02:55.05 | Spark | libncurses5-dev |
| 02:55.08 | Vladkao | assNav: man interfaces |
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| 02:55.24 | brc007 | >:? |
| 02:55.43 | assNav | Vladko:Thanx. I'll read it and learn it |
| 02:55.45 | Inc3pt | Does anyone know what I can do, to either a) get a normal xfcfg file, or b) have xf86cfg run without the glide module?...or something? :( |
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| 02:56.18 | somiaj | Inc3pt: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (it will ask you what modules you want to load near the end of it) |
| 02:56.24 | Caveman-Deb | Spark: thanks |
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| 02:56.45 | brc007 | is what I have above the correct way to disable acpi? |
| 02:56.46 | Inc3pt | somaij: thats the problem, dpkg wont write the file, because the current file doesnt exist. |
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| 02:57.45 | somiaj | Inc3pt: you don't have a /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file? you could try xf86cfg (if it will make one) then modify it with $TEXTEDITOR |
| 02:58.16 | somiaj | Inc3pt: there should be a way to tell debconf to over write any file there (or create a new one), but I can't think of it right now. |
| 02:58.22 | Inc3pt | (somiaj): ive already gone through the logical process :p...the problem is, that when i try to run xf86cfg, it says i need the glide modules. |
| 02:58.35 | Inc3pt | ive tried "dpkg-reconfigure --force xserver-xfree86, but it still wont do it |
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| 02:59.25 | ejp | What if you just make a blank text file called XF86Config-4 then try the dpkg-reconfigure?? |
| 02:59.31 | Inc3pt | tried that also... |
| 02:59.41 | Inc3pt | it says "will not overwrite, file has been modified" |
| 02:59.41 | TheJumbo | Hi, all of a sudden, my sound card in my laptop stopped woriking under debian linux... probably after some update, is this a known issue? do you have any ideas what to look at? |
| 02:59.46 | Justin_ | Inc3pt: why did you delete the XF86Config-4? |
| 02:59.57 | Vladkao | ejp: what if you reinstall the xfree-whatever package ? |
| 03:00.20 | Inc3pt | (Vladkao): I suppose I could do that, I was hoping to save some time though... |
| 03:00.36 | Inc3pt | Do you think theres anywhere on the net that would have just the generic config file? |
| 03:00.46 | Inc3pt | I could download it here in windows, and copy it over... |
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| 03:01.27 | Spark | what do drivers-{1,2,3,4}.bin have on them exactly? |
| 03:01.37 | TheJumbo | The only thing that works is the system bell, strangely enough I can change its volume with aumix. Otherwise, no application can play a sound, even though they think they do |
| 03:01.46 | Justin_ | Spark: drivers |
| 03:01.56 | Spark | thats quite a non-exact answer :) |
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| 03:02.16 | toolchest | helix: wow, for a few minutes there, this place turned into #theology. |
| 03:02.21 | Inc3pt | Is anyone willing to email me an xf86 config file or something? |
| 03:02.28 | Justin_ | Inc3pt: no, fix the problem |
| 03:02.29 | Vladkao | Inc3pt: you will save time by reinstalling rather than searching the web. |
| 03:02.32 | helix | toolchest: not the first time that's happened. |
| 03:02.37 | peterS | Inc3pt: it didn't help to do what I suggested 20 minutes ago? |
| 03:02.45 | Tweak22 | yay! my kernel recompile worked :0) |
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| 03:02.47 | Tweak22 | im getting better |
| 03:02.55 | FieldySnuts | :D |
| 03:02.59 | Inc3pt | (peterS): What did you suggest? I forgot...Ive tried most everything thoughl |
| 03:03.27 | peterS | Inc3pt: right after you posted your question, I answered it and you ignored me. 'dpkg --purge xserver-xfree86; apt-get install xserver-xfree86' |
| 03:03.27 | wethion | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:04.16 | Inc3pt | (peterS): I must've missed it :( Im really sorry... |
| 03:04.30 | Tweak22 | if I want dir to = ls -color I say alias dir="ls -color" right? |
| 03:04.52 | Inc3pt | (peterS): one question, if I do that, will I have to reinstall the WM? or not? |
| 03:04.55 | enki` | anyone know a program that can seperate the voice from the music in audio tracks ? =x |
| 03:04.56 | Tweak22 | I mean ls --color |
| 03:04.58 | lucas | Tweak22, yes |
| 03:05.07 | toolchest | helix: with linux zealots aplenty, surely not the last ;) |
| 03:05.13 | peterS | Inc3pt: no, it should just make you reconfigure the server, and not really touch anything else |
| 03:05.14 | Tweak22 | nice thanks |
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| 03:05.20 | Inc3pt | (peterS): thanks |
| 03:05.49 | Manoj_ | someone called for a linux zealot? |
| 03:05.59 | toolchest | what did i say? |
| 03:06.01 | helix | Manoj_: pfft. you're an everything zealot ;) |
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| 03:06.10 | BlackNet | lo every1 |
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| 03:06.17 | helix | 1every1 |
| 03:06.18 | helix | oops |
| 03:06.22 | helix | !every1 |
| 03:06.25 | Manoj_ | helix: one tries |
| 03:06.48 | Spark | look please ive got a limited number of floppy disks, ive already wasted an hour because this isnt clear, what disk images do i need to install debian off the net via pcmcia ethernet? |
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| 03:06.57 | toei | hi |
| 03:06.58 | peterS | Manoj_: what good are you, anyway? you didn't even manage to fix the non-free election |
| 03:07.03 | helix | hahaha |
| 03:07.07 | Spark | i also cant mount driver1.bin over loopback, claims vfat errors |
| 03:07.08 | toei | what i need to set a webmail same as yahoo? |
| 03:07.12 | brc007 | to disable apm or acpi I change the grub entry to "kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.25.032204 root=/dev/hda3 ro acpi=off apm=off " correct? anybody? :'( |
| 03:07.16 | Manoj_ | peterS: you sure? Look at the way I voted. |
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| 03:07.54 | peterS | Manoj_: bah, it takes no effort to fix an election if you're trying to make a 3/4 majority vote fail |
| 03:08.09 | toei | ? |
| 03:08.18 | Manoj_ | peterS: but make it fail to win even a simple majority? |
| 03:08.22 | peterS | Manoj_: ah, point |
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| 03:08.50 | brc007 | my kernel reboots as soon as I select it in grub. somebody said to turn off acpi and apm which I did (if the above is correct) and it still does it...does anybody have ANY sugestions? |
| 03:09.08 | toei | anybody know? |
| 03:09.28 | brc007 | is this a totally stupid question? :\ |
| 03:09.40 | SpArTaK | anyone here use azureus |
| 03:09.43 | brc007 | is there anything major to try disabling other then apm and acpi? |
| 03:09.45 | GomoX | brc007: not really - just a hard one |
| 03:09.55 | GomoX | brc007: have you considered bad memory? |
| 03:10.03 | GomoX | SpArTaK: i do |
| 03:10.06 | brc007 | no I hadn't thought of that |
| 03:10.08 | toei | brc007, so ? |
| 03:10.18 | SpArTaK | GomoX: do you get constant error messages about too many files open |
| 03:10.21 | brc007 | it works with a stock kernel though... |
| 03:10.29 | somiaj | brc007: do you have a debian kernel installed...if so did you install one for the right sub-arch? 586, 686, k6, k7, etc... |
| 03:10.34 | GomoX | SpArTaK: no - what version are you using? |
| 03:10.51 | SpArTaK | 2.0.8.4 |
| 03:10.51 | tsocks | I have problems with Kernel 2.6.4-1 and mouse PS2 :(((((((((( It no work ... |
| 03:10.58 | SpArTaK | GomoX: 2.0.8.4 |
| 03:11.08 | somiaj | brc007: if you compiled your own, make sure you compiled in it for the correct cpu, I've seen that cause a similar problem to the one you speak of. |
| 03:11.11 | SpArTaK | GomoX: i have the limits set to 0 which means unlimited |
| 03:11.24 | brc007 | I have a custom kernel I compiled using the newbie doc ( http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html ) |
| 03:11.27 | sirReal | tsocks: did it work in another kernel with the same X settings? |
| 03:11.39 | GomoX | SpArTaK: im using the same version and it works fine |
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| 03:11.39 | brc007 | and a debian generic kernel that works (2.4.25-1-286) |
| 03:11.41 | SpArTaK | GomoX: i keep getting "Save of downloads.conf" too many files open |
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| 03:11.52 | brc007 | somiaj okay I'll double check that I guess |
| 03:11.54 | brc007 | thanks |
| 03:12.09 | toei | anybody know? |
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| 03:12.29 | GomoX | SpArTaK: maybe ask on a specific channel |
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| 03:12.53 | brc007 | GomoX: do you have a sugestion for a memory test program? |
| 03:12.57 | tsocks | sirReal: he work in 2.4.* ... but in 2.6 not :( |
| 03:12.59 | Spark | memtest86 |
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| 03:13.11 | BlackNet | ok have my test box up if anyone want's to ssh in and check it out |
| 03:13.15 | Spark | i always have that in lilo, on my machines |
| 03:13.16 | toolchest | !tell toei about repeat |
| 03:13.30 | Spark | !tell spark about repeat |
| 03:13.37 | m0rbid|cleaning | I have two PC's behind a debian router/firewall. One of them is an XP machine, the other is another debian server. Now the troubles I am having is, if I run bittorrent on the routing machine, it goes fast. If I run bit torrent on anything else behind it, it seems to time out alot, or not as fast as when run on the routing server. Anyone have any input on this? |
| 03:13.42 | SpArTaK | GomoX: il try that thx |
| 03:13.43 | Tweak22 | how can I get a list of my hard drive /dev/names ? |
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| 03:14.17 | sirReal | tsocks: was 2.6.4 the first 2.6 kernel you tried? |
| 03:14.22 | CtrlAltDel | i just had a hard drive issue, and ran e2fsck to fix it, now 2/3 of the data on the drive is gone. anyway to recover? |
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| 03:14.31 | CtrlAltDel | ext3fs |
| 03:14.34 | tsocks | sirReal: yes, |
| 03:14.38 | GomoX | m0rbid: thats correct |
| 03:14.38 | GomoX | you have to route packets to the machine running bittorrent so that other peers can connect to it |
| 03:14.50 | somiaj | Tweak22: check dmesg, it will tell ya what was detected at boot up |
| 03:14.52 | pug | CtrlAltDel: llook for your stuff in lost+found |
| 03:14.55 | sirReal | tsocks: maybe try 'cat /dev/input/mice' and move the mouse un poco, see if there is any output |
| 03:14.55 | GomoX | google for "linux nat port forwarding" that should do |
| 03:15.05 | m0rbid | GomoX: the upload seems to go full speed. |
| 03:15.22 | pug | CtrlAltDel: i learned the hard way too that you should NOT run fsck on a drive that's got trouble... |
| 03:15.26 | m0rbid | GomoX: same as it would on the routing machine. |
| 03:15.31 | CtrlAltDel | yeah there is lotsa stuff there, like #12189697, files like that...can i restore those? |
| 03:15.31 | toolchest | Tweak22: cat /etc/fstab |
| 03:15.38 | tsocks | sirReal: but ... now, I'm in 2.4.... |
| 03:15.44 | CtrlAltDel | ll |
| 03:15.54 | GomoX | m0rbid: weird |
| 03:15.55 | GomoX | anyway, if peers cant connect to you then your download speed will suck |
| 03:15.55 | GomoX | its a known problem with firewalls |
| 03:16.04 | sirReal | tsocks: oh :) |
| 03:16.16 | m0rbid | GomoX: what ports does/would BT use? I can forward. |
| 03:16.19 | toolchest | Tweak22: that'll give you the linux partitions at least. |
| 03:16.22 | CtrlAltDel | it looks like old inodes in my lost+found dir |
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| 03:16.45 | pug | CtrlAltDel: no, you can't... |
| 03:16.52 | CtrlAltDel | ok, so these are all dead then? |
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| 03:16.56 | pug | CtrlAltDel: what i did was grep my way through all the files... |
| 03:17.29 | tsocks | sirReal: wait ... |
| 03:17.30 | tsocks | xiaou |
| 03:17.32 | pug | CtrlAltDel: basically (as i understand it) those files are written out blocks of data, might contain just one file or might contain stuff from more than one file |
| 03:17.45 | sirReal | does e2fsck _ever_ help? |
| 03:17.52 | zeeble | yes |
| 03:17.57 | CtrlAltDel | i mean if i do a du on the dir, you can see the full 'path' or such, but the file sizes are outta wack |
| 03:18.09 | Tweak22 | toolchest I am trying to do this raiddev file and I need to have device one and device to ... device to doest show up on the fstab becuase I didnt partition it ... |
| 03:18.12 | pug | sirReal: yes, when your hd is still ok =) |
| 03:18.23 | Spark | is there a way to fsck -y on startup, rather than waiting for root password |
| 03:18.38 | Spark | without, say, editting /etc/init.d/something |
| 03:18.42 | pug | CtrlAltDel: hmm don't know then, i found that most of the files were pretty messed up :( |
| 03:18.49 | Spark | like a proper prescribed debian method :) |
| 03:18.58 | pug | Spark: that's a bad idea =) |
| 03:19.02 | bob2 | CtrlAltDel: lost+found are bits of files |
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| 03:19.17 | Spark | is it really? |
| 03:19.37 | Spark | i'd rather risk it than have the server hung up hundreds of miles away, if the risks are low |
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| 03:19.53 | pug | Spark: you risk losing a lot of data |
| 03:19.58 | CtrlAltDel | ok so i should pretty much accept that the data in that lost+found dir is pretty much gone |
| 03:20.00 | Spark | what can go wrong? |
| 03:20.12 | mircalumis | can anyone help me with wget usage? |
| 03:20.20 | pug | Spark: running fsck on a mirrored partition where one of the drives is having malfunctions will seriously fuck things up for example |
| 03:20.32 | somiaj | mircalumis: man wget |
| 03:20.37 | pug | Spark: any erratic behaviour from the HD and fsck behaves rather.. funky |
| 03:20.46 | mircalumis | somiaj: yes, I read that already. :p |
| 03:20.48 | CtrlAltDel | yeah if i do a df, it shows the free space as if those missing dirs were gone |
| 03:20.51 | CtrlAltDel | guess thats dead |
| 03:20.52 | somiaj | mircalumis: wget --help |
| 03:20.54 | Spark | heh ok |
| 03:20.56 | pug | CtrlAltDel: yes, again, depends what you're looking for |
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| 03:21.01 | mircalumis | somiaj: yes, I read that already. :p |
| 03:21.03 | Spark | what about for a single ide disk, no frills |
| 03:21.06 | Tweak22 | does anynbody know anything about raiddev file?? |
| 03:21.14 | martonB | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:21.22 | Spark | if the disks on the way out, tough shit anyway :) |
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| 03:21.24 | secher | I want to try out Gnome, since I've been strictly E for years, but I'm getting a hangup. When the gnome screen starts, I'm getting the green blood cells and the name Gnome 2.4 intro screen and dothing esle. |
| 03:21.27 | pug | CtrlAltDel: you might find some small textfiles and stuff intact, but larger files i don't think so |
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| 03:21.42 | somiaj | martonB: might try #mozilla |
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| 03:21.55 | pug | Spark: well, go ahead and do it =), it's only data you're going to lose.. =) |
| 03:22.05 | kirchner | Whats a good tool to maintain my debian system in shape, up2date, and running ok? |
| 03:22.07 | Spencer | My sound card was working in Mandrake, but it's not working in Debian. /etc/modules.conf looks fine. lsmod showed the driver for my sound card. What do I need to do to get this working? I've been at this for a while now, and I'm getting quite frustrated. I'd appreciate any help. |
| 03:22.20 | somiaj | secher: do you have a window manager installed for gnome...the sawfish-gnome is usually one example. |
| 03:22.20 | kirchner | Spencer: what sound card / kernel |
| 03:22.27 | secher | Oh, the question is.. does anyone know what's wrong? |
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| 03:22.44 | somiaj | Spencer: have you added yourself to the audio group? |
| 03:22.48 | zeeble | kirchner man apt-get, man aptitude |
| 03:23.06 | kirchner | zeeble: Im talking more about maintancence here |
| 03:23.24 | Spencer | kirchner: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 80). and kernel 2.4.24-1-386 |
| 03:23.26 | secher | somiaj: not that I know of.. I know almost nothing of gnome. just apt-get it? |
| 03:23.36 | BlackNet | ok looks like my nat rule is working, have an anonymous remote root login |
| 03:23.39 | zeeble | kirchner what else am i talking about? you are talking about the software installed on your system, right? |
| 03:23.49 | Spencer | somiaj: Yes. I added myself to the audio group. I logged out and logged in to make sure I was still in the group. I was. |
| 03:23.50 | somiaj | secher: /msg dpkg isntall gnome |
| 03:24.13 | kirchner | Spencer: Alsa supports AC97, 2.6 kernels have it included.. Theres two ways, the hard and the easy, the hard, install alsa, and do all the configuring, the 2nd, upgrade to 2.6 |
| 03:24.18 | mircalumis | somiaj: if you can recommend somewhere else on IRC, I'm open to suggestions. I only came here because I remembered you guys as being helpful in the past. :) |
| 03:24.19 | somiaj | secher: sawfish-gnome is one window manager I know, I belive metacity is another one |
| 03:24.29 | zeeble | kirchner you atleast need to get the "security updates" via apt for "maintenance" |
| 03:24.41 | kirchner | zeeble: Having a lot of errors at boot which dmesg doenst show up, a lot of sysv scripts, alot of crap lying around and so on.. |
| 03:25.01 | Spencer | kirchner: Someone told me that I need to update a lot of things before I can get kernel 2.6. Is this true? |
| 03:25.03 | kingsley | Why wouldn't the following "a2ps" command add a header? |
| 03:25.03 | kingsley | a2ps --header=aheader -o - file.ps | gv - |
| 03:25.07 | somiaj | mircalumis: ask a more spicific question, like I want to do <blah> with wget, the man page should have the info you need.....maybe even give the command you are trying to type..dont just ask for help |
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| 03:25.13 | kirchner | Spencer: you using woody ? |
| 03:25.28 | nasboy | Where can I get the debian anaconda iso files? |
| 03:25.29 | somiaj | Spencer: have ya tried aumix and turned up the volumes? |
| 03:25.29 | Spencer | kirchner: I'm using Sid. |
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| 03:25.48 | mwilson | kirchner: You DO know that AC97 is a codec, not a sound card, right? |
| 03:25.51 | kirchner | Spencer: then no, hold on, ill send you a link that will guide you through it |
| 03:25.53 | kirchner | mwilson: yes |
| 03:25.56 | zeeble | Spencer apt-get install module-init-tools, read the kernel package manpage. |
| 03:25.57 | CtrlAltDel | thx for confirming guys |
| 03:26.06 | CtrlAltDel | i'll try and restore what i have from backups and see how things go |
| 03:26.14 | CtrlAltDel | good thing this was a test/development box i dont care too much about |
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| 03:26.36 | kirchner | Spencer: http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5793467888.html |
| 03:26.37 | murcalumis | I'm trying to mirror a web site. I can't just use --mirror though, because the web site in question uses a java applet for navigation on their index page rather than hyperlinks. |
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| 03:27.38 | murcalumis | I created a plain hypertext document with the same links as plain hyperlinks, and need to know how to feed wget that and have it function the same as if I mirrored the site normally (if the site used hyperlinks instead of the applet). |
| 03:28.03 | kirchner | why is the channel limit to 666 ? |
| 03:28.07 | kirchner | somebody please change this |
| 03:28.26 | somiaj | kirchner: why are you superstisious> |
| 03:28.26 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 03:28.30 | kirchner | its evil |
| 03:28.32 | murcalumis | kirchner: is there a problem with this number, or just the limit in general? ;) |
| 03:28.33 | kirchner | somiaj: yes |
| 03:28.38 | BlackNet | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.39 | kirchner | murcalumis: problem with the number |
| 03:28.46 | murcalumis | oh teh gno |
| 03:28.46 | kirchner | BlackNet: +11 |
| 03:28.47 | BlackNet | if you leave it'll be 665 |
| 03:28.52 | somiaj | kirchner: well I'm sorry...(: |
| 03:28.52 | toei | quit |
| 03:28.55 | BlackNet | er yea +11 my bad it's a monday |
| 03:29.01 | zeeble | kirchner do you have any idea that people from all countries are here, those who have no idea that 666 is evil? |
| 03:29.14 | kirchner | zeeble: 666 is recognized worldwide |
| 03:29.14 | murcalumis | lots of cars here have 666 in their license numbers :p |
| 03:29.22 | kirchner | murcalumis: evil cars |
| 03:29.33 | zeeble | kirchner eh? your concept of the world sucks. |
| 03:29.43 | kirchner | zeeble: the american concept of the world sucks, not mine |
| 03:29.47 | somiaj | evil is a matter of preception...just don't think about it, and find some other number to fixate one...(: |
| 03:30.01 | FieldySnuts | yeah, like 69 |
| 03:30.15 | zeeble | :) |
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| 03:31.06 | kirchner | zeeble: I meant, for the americans the world starts in Alaska and ends in Miami, so that is, everybody knows what 6*6 is.. but going back to the number, ill leave now. :-P |
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| 03:31.40 | Sinistrad | kirchner, that's not true...we have a share of antarctica as well :) |
| 03:31.54 | zeeble | heh, and maybe the moon? |
| 03:32.03 | Sinistrad | zeeble, certainly the moon... |
| 03:32.08 | Sinistrad | we flagged it first, after all.. |
| 03:32.11 | mo699898 | how do i apply a .diff patch? |
| 03:32.36 | zeeble | mo699898 man patch? |
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| 03:34.05 | murcalumis | anyways, no help for moi? :( |
| 03:34.37 | fdd | mo699898: cd to the dir cont. the file you want to patch. patch -p1 < /the/diff/file |
| 03:35.10 | Tweak22 | if anybody knows anything about raid could you look in flood to see if that looks right at all... |
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| 03:36.54 | mwilson | Oh, here we go again. |
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| 03:37.16 | BullWeivelz | Samba/Debian question - is anyone here using Win2K to authenticate there users when they login to a linux box...can you share your pam.d config with me purdy please! |
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| 03:40.16 | BullWeivelz | wow this is the quietest i have ever seen this chan. |
| 03:40.35 | xarg | is it possible to authenticate people based on ssl cert? |
| 03:40.39 | xarg | to a web page |
| 03:40.40 | zignig | BullWeivelz: sssh , we're tringy to concentrate :) |
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| 03:41.06 | zeeble | tringy is such a sexy typo |
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| 03:42.17 | xarg | is it possible to have apache-ssl/mod-ssl only allow people with specific ssl certs connect to a web page? |
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| 03:43.21 | sophistication | porkchop sandwich |
| 03:43.32 | bob2 | sophistication: are you on drugs? |
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| 03:44.17 | streuner | hehe |
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| 03:44.42 | bob2 | sophistication: /lastlog porkchop |
| 03:44.59 | bob2 | erm, streuner |
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| 03:45.55 | CanadaMan | I am wondering... is there a good programming language to do web development in Linux, that lets you seperate the UI components from the code? As in... the code can be pre-compiled, and you can have UI stuff managed by a non-programmer? Basically, I am wondering if there is something similar to the ASPX code behinds they have in the Microsoft world. |
| 03:46.09 | cafuego | CanadaMan: php |
| 03:46.11 | streuner | bob2: :-) |
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| 03:46.42 | cafuego | CanadaMan: You can create templatable objects that non-coders can use quite easily. Also check out Python/Zope |
| 03:46.52 | bob2 | CanadaMan: there are dozens if not hundreds of web templating things for Unix out there. |
| 03:47.01 | Tweak22 | anybody know what mkraid is here? |
| 03:47.05 | CanadaMan | bob2: a suggestion on the best one? |
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| 03:47.14 | cafuego | !best |
| 03:47.15 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! |
| 03:47.17 | bob2 | CanadaMan: depends which language you want to code in. |
| 03:47.30 | bob2 | CanadaMan: python and perl both have the "template toolkit", amongst others. |
| 03:48.04 | nullvoid | I already have winbind configured, but my problem is that each time I want to use wbinfo I jad to issue net join command? how can I correct this? |
| 03:49.24 | zeeble | CanadaMan there are some premade CMS/toolkits as bob2 and cafuego said. check out zope/plone/blosxom, or phpnuke/postnuke/. also check out some collab tools like twiki, gforge, etc. |
| 03:49.28 | BullWeivelz | anyone in here decent with PAM...why in the Debian config it uses compat in the nsswitch.conf, but redhat and others specificaly use files ??? i dont get the difference |
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| 03:50.03 | bofh80 | hi room |
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| 03:50.27 | bofh80 | i don't suppose there's a really easy way to get from fedora to debian without burning a cd? |
| 03:50.30 | CanadaMan | zeeble: what do they call that "concept" where the code and UI are seperated and the code is pre-compiled? I believe .NET does that |
| 03:50.43 | bob2 | bofh80: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 03:50.46 | nullvoid | bob2: do you use winbindd? |
| 03:50.54 | bob2 | bofh80: er, /msg dpkg ig |
| 03:51.01 | bob2 | bofh80: you can start the install from two floppy disks. |
| 03:51.07 | bob2 | nullvoid: I don't even know what it is. |
| 03:51.09 | bofh80 | bob2: i grabbed d-i... oh ok.. |
| 03:51.19 | Justin_ | !+info winbind |
| 03:51.24 | Justin_ | bob2: now you do:) |
| 03:51.25 | dpkg | winbind: (service to resolve user and group information from Windows NT servers), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.2a-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1285 kB, Installed size: 3304 kB |
| 03:51.26 | bob2 | bofh80: I'm pretty sure d-i can install from a floppy or two, too. |
| 03:51.31 | bob2 | oh |
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| 03:51.38 | bob2 | like a SMB NSS module? |
| 03:51.43 | Justin_ | yup |
| 03:51.50 | zarkon | hey pplz |
| 03:52.06 | Tweak22 | when I do raid 1 I get the error device sdb1 doesnt exist. I didnt partition it becuase I wasnt to just copy sda1 to it. do I need to do something else? |
| 03:52.07 | Justin_ | zarkon: "hi" works just as good |
| 03:52.07 | nullvoid | Justin_: is't everytime we need to issue net join command then we can use wbinfo ? |
| 03:52.15 | Justin_ | nullvoid: no idea |
| 03:52.25 | Justin_ | Tweak22: partition it. |
| 03:52.36 | zarkon | Justin_ wuts wrong wif say hey pplz |
| 03:52.37 | Tweak22 | justin_ do I need to partition it just like the first one? |
| 03:52.40 | zarkon | i use that as a greeting |
| 03:52.47 | zarkon | u may be bland and say hi if u want ur life |
| 03:52.51 | bob2 | CanadaMan: what's the gain from "pre-compiling" it? all "serious" apache language plugin things (mod_python, mod_perl, php4-apc) cache the interpreted code at run time. |
| 03:52.51 | Justin_ | !+u |
| 03:52.52 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1. |
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| 03:52.57 | Justin_ | !+ur |
| 03:52.57 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. |
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| 03:53.06 | Justin_ | Tweak22: uh huh |
| 03:53.17 | Tweak22 | hmm.. I dont remember my partition sizes.. |
| 03:53.19 | bob2 | Tweak22: you want to duplicate one disk onto another? |
| 03:53.25 | zarkon | i get it |
| 03:53.26 | Tweak22 | bob2 yes raid 1 |
| 03:53.27 | Justin_ | Tweak22: thats what fdisk is for |
| 03:53.30 | zarkon | u hate txt speek |
| 03:53.42 | Tweak22 | fdisk is in linux to?? |
| 03:53.48 | CanadaMan | bob2: oh... I might be off base then... I was just wondering if the benefits that ASPX.NET offers can exist in the Apache world... so according to you then, this is already the case with APache and mod_php then? |
| 03:53.51 | zarkon | n0t mi pr0b |
| 03:53.56 | forsaken | how do i install grub to the mbr of a drive? |
| 03:54.06 | Tweak22 | *gives justin a tissue* |
| 03:54.10 | zarkon | lol |
| 03:54.24 | zarkon | !+lol |
| 03:54.24 | dpkg | well, lol is Laugh{s,ing} Out Loud. A laugh sound is not spelled "lol" nor is "lol" punctuation . If you want to quickly indicate that you're laughing, use "heh" or "haha" in the first person and "lol" or "is lol" in the third person ("/me"). |
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| 03:54.38 | zeeble | zarkon stop playing with the bot |
| 03:54.44 | zarkon | y |
| 03:54.51 | zarkon | !+pplz |
| 03:55.05 | Tweak22 | !+bellybutton |
| 03:55.16 | zarkon | +!weed |
| 03:55.22 | Tweak22 | !+fluffystarfish |
| 03:55.22 | zarkon | !+txt |
| 03:55.22 | dpkg | methinks txt is the standard format for ascii text files! |
| 03:55.24 | bob2 | CanadaMan: mod_php doesn't itself, but there's a bunch of caching plugin thingys that do. |
| 03:55.46 | CanadaMan | bob2: what do you think of MONO... |
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| 03:56.26 | bob2 | CanadaMan: hm, can't find any of them in Debian atm, try asking in #php I guess |
| 03:56.37 | Justin_ | mononucleosis? |
| 03:56.53 | bob2 | CanadaMan: don't know much about it...but I'd be mighty nervous about trusting MS to not fuck them over if they thought it would benefit them. |
| 03:57.06 | CanadaMan | bob2: true true.. |
| 03:57.11 | bob2 | !+info php4-apc |
| 03:57.13 | dpkg | Package 'php4-apc' does not exist. |
| 03:57.15 | CanadaMan | bob2: I did not realize that PHP can be pre-compiled. |
| 03:57.18 | bob2 | hm. |
| 03:57.31 | CanadaMan | what is this apc... is that the caching version of pho? |
| 03:57.36 | CanadaMan | s/pho/php/ |
| 03:57.36 | bob2 | CanadaMan: it's mroe caching of interpreted code. |
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| 03:58.01 | bob2 | if you want to actually compile stuff, use a compiled language like C++. but, for a web application, EW. |
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| 03:58.41 | bob2 | I thought php4-apc was an add-on for php that did this. |
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| 03:58.56 | troubled | ahh, much better |
| 03:59.16 | Inc3pt | Does anyone know why 2.4.18 -> 2.4.25, my tulip support broke? |
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| 03:59.22 | Tweak22 | with fdisk (I allready looked at man) is there a way to copy another hard drives partitions sizes and stuff? |
| 03:59.26 | bob2 | hehehehe |
| 03:59.27 | troubled | bob2: ! |
| 03:59.33 | bofh80 | is it safe to assume, that if i backup my home directory (which i can do just by copying right?) my data should all be there? (keeping in mind that anything i've done myself, but i mean logs n stuff as well) |
| 03:59.38 | troubled | bob2: good thing its not scripted heh |
| 03:59.43 | bob2 | Tweak22: are you sure you need to do this? won't your RAID system mirror the disk for you? |
| 03:59.44 | Qucho | hello all, I can not make my X server run and I this the reason is because the ver is 4.1.0.1 --- now I want to update XFree86 but i am stuck --- I tried apt-get update, and dselect still have the ver 4.1 -- how i get arround to get the new XFree86 ver ? (im a newbie and desesperated :( ) |
| 03:59.55 | bob2 | troubled: oh, I'd have so much fun if it was |
| 04:00.06 | Cuga | Heya, question, i only made my / partition 2 gigs, i have other partitions taking /usr/local and /home... my 2gig / is filling up pretty quick , already 77% full, what can i do to clean up what might be garbage data in there? |
| 04:00.09 | troubled | bob2: and I would be spending my week trying to get unbanned hehe |
| 04:00.13 | bob2 | bofh80: make sure you use -a with cp, or it will trash your permsisions. |
| 04:00.19 | somiaj | Qucho: what video card do you have? |
| 04:00.20 | bob2 | troubled: everyone wins :P |
| 04:00.29 | bofh80 | bob2: backing up to windows box... |
| 04:00.32 | zarkon | i have a question |
| 04:00.35 | Qucho | somiaj: Nvidia MMX 440 |
| 04:00.38 | bob2 | bofh80: use a tarball then |
| 04:00.42 | zeeble | bofh80 no. backup /var/log, and /etc as well |
| 04:00.43 | mwilson | Cuga: Why in the world did you make /usr/local its own partition but not /usr ? |
| 04:00.44 | Tweak22 | bob2 thats what I thought. but it said that device sdb1 didnt exist (because its not partitioned it doesnt have a 1) im guessing... |
| 04:00.48 | troubled | bob2: hey, if you tell me how to script irssi so only you can issue that command I would be glad to add it ;) |
| 04:00.57 | bob2 | bofh80: things like ~/.ssh/ have very specific permissions and will get confused if they change. |
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| 04:01.02 | fdd | forsaken: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/l-dw-linuxgrub-i.html |
| 04:01.03 | zarkon | how can i boot a cd using a floppy disk |
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| 04:01.10 | zarkon | my bios dont support cd boot |
| 04:01.14 | bob2 | bofh80: on the other hand, only gpg and ssh will care off the top of my head, so you might not care... |
| 04:01.20 | bofh80 | bob2: i jsut want it backed up, i'm gonna copy it back... |
| 04:01.23 | zarkon | so i want the floppy to load device drivers and then boot from the cd |
| 04:01.26 | bofh80 | zeeble: thanks |
| 04:01.38 | Cuga | mwilson: my thinking was i install all my stuff to /usr/local... and i do.. but it is still filling up |
| 04:01.40 | bob2 | troubled: hehehe |
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| 04:01.44 | Tweak22 | bop2 and in dmesg it says sdb: unknown partition table. |
| 04:01.45 | Roey | Hi |
| 04:01.46 | somiaj | Qucho: here are two options, a) jsut get the nvidia drivers they will work fine with your current version of X, or 2) /msg dpkg backports, and look for a backport of x4.3, use that (I wouldn't suggest upgradign from woody, but that is another option) |
| 04:01.50 | bofh80 | bob2: i meant, i'm NOT gonna copy it back lol |
| 04:01.57 | bob2 | bofh80: oh |
| 04:01.58 | Roey | I thought of something that could getcha all a whole lot more name recognition |
| 04:02.03 | Roey | it wouldnt' take that much of a name change. |
| 04:02.05 | Roey | only one char. |
| 04:02.09 | Roey | Desbian Linux |
| 04:02.09 | TiCpu | !+lo |
| 04:02.09 | dpkg | lo is probably the loopback device. you can ping yourself, great fun that!, or the loopbackdevice for mounting files like devices |
| 04:02.11 | Roey | eh? eh? |
| 04:02.22 | troubled | afk |
| 04:02.28 | cafuego | Roey: there's already a Lesbian GNU/Linux |
| 04:02.31 | bofh80 | bob2: can i tar up my home directory while i'm logged in? :) |
| 04:02.32 | mwilson | Cuga: "all your stuff"? What about what Debian packages? |
| 04:02.37 | Roey | cafuego: sure but this is more subtle :) |
| 04:02.39 | zarkon | Can someone please help me? |
| 04:02.51 | cafuego | Roey: that's not the term i'd use |
| 04:02.52 | bob2 | bofh80: yup. |
| 04:03.00 | Roey | ah |
| 04:03.12 | Cuga | mwilson: deb packages install to /usr? |
| 04:03.15 | bofh80 | i'm not so handy with the tar cmd line, safe enough to use file roller? |
| 04:03.25 | Roey | hi mwilson |
| 04:03.37 | cafuego | bofh80: tar cfz /home.tgz /home |
| 04:03.41 | cafuego | bofh80: ... done. |
| 04:03.42 | mwilson | Cuga: Of course. Where did you expect them to install? |
| 04:03.43 | Roey | *desbian* hahahah ;) |
| 04:03.53 | ding | Anyone recommend the best way to clone a 9Gb drive containing a Linux/Windows dual boot to a new 250Gb drive? |
| 04:04.26 | zarkon | I didn't use text speech...... |
| 04:04.29 | jorgp | anyone know of an app that I can run on a video file like .avi or .mpeg and it tell me what codecs are needed for it? |
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| 04:04.36 | somiaj | ding: make a new partition on your new harddrive, then use cp -A (arcive it will keep primisions and such..just don't copy over /proc)...there is a linux hardrive upgrade howto somewhere as well. |
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| 04:04.44 | cafuego | ding: Make 2 new aprtitions, the same number of sectors as the two old ones, then 'dd' them. |
| 04:04.55 | Justin_ | eew dd |
| 04:05.01 | Cuga | mwilson: guess your right... know anyway that i can grab space of another partition? can partition magic do that, i've got tones of room of my /usr/local now hehe |
| 04:05.06 | Justin_ | copying is almost always better |
| 04:05.08 | cafuego | Justin_: ... or cat if you prefer |
| 04:05.11 | ding | Thank samiaj and cafuego. |
| 04:05.19 | Justin_ | has the addded bonus of defragging and stuff |
| 04:05.22 | zarkon | Can someone please help me? |
| 04:05.29 | ding | cafuego, what if I want to have more space for Linux? Is dd out? |
| 04:05.43 | cafuego | ding: ... just keep in mind you will need to boot off a floppy or cd to fix up your boot record. |
| 04:05.58 | cafuego | ding: Then you use 'cp -a' |
| 04:06.05 | bofh80 | cafuego: running now, thanks |
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| 04:06.14 | mwilson | Cuga: <shrug> Back up, repartition, restore. |
| 04:06.42 | somiaj | zarkon: just grab rescue.bin and boot.bin from your debian mirror, and boot off of those, it will then install off the cd...that what ya looking for? |
| 04:06.42 | agent209 | stupid newbie question: how do I view the disk size of my partitions? |
| 04:06.44 | bird` | guys, I have installed ldap, winbindd, nscd, libnss-ldap and read |
| 04:06.46 | bird` | all docs but am unable to login to the shared domain from a Win2k PC |
| 04:06.51 | darkfusion | is there a solution to the gnome brokeness in unstable? |
| 04:06.51 | zarkon | How can I use a bootable floppy to boot off a CD-ROM when my BIOS doesn'y support CD-ROM booting? |
| 04:06.52 | Cuga | mwilson: :'( just got it comfortable other then the disk space issue lol, but guess your right |
| 04:06.55 | somiaj | agent209: man df |
| 04:07.03 | darkfusion | agent209: cfdisk |
| 04:07.04 | agent209 | thanks |
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| 04:07.22 | somiaj | agent209: du is another one..df will only tell info about mounted partitions. |
| 04:07.36 | mwilson | Cuga: You make it sound like I told you to erase it or something. |
| 04:07.49 | somiaj | zarkon: you don't boot off the cdrom, you boot off the floppy, the floppy then detects yoru cd rom and installs debian from there. |
| 04:07.51 | fdd | agent209:qtparted is good |
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| 04:08.19 | Tweak22 | anybody here that can help me with my raid 1 problems? |
| 04:08.21 | zarkon | No it doesn't. It searches for a kernel in /dev/hdb1 |
| 04:08.44 | bird` | Tweak22: wass the problem ? |
| 04:08.48 | mwilson | Tweak22: No, you're beyond help. |
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| 04:08.57 | Cuga | mwilson: ahh.. but where do i backup stuff so that i can repartition and restore? |
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| 04:09.15 | zarkon | The CD-ROM I have is a woody install CD-ROM so I can install it off the internet |
| 04:09.19 | Tweak22 | bird` I am taking my sda and sdb and wanting to mirror them |
| 04:09.20 | somiaj | zarkon: did you download both the boot and resuce floppy, it boots of the floppy, if it can detect your cdrom it then installs from there....if that doesn't work then my guess is there is other problems with your system besides not booting off the cd. |
| 04:09.23 | mwilson | Cuga: <shrug> Wherever you like. There's hardly a requirement. |
| 04:09.26 | Tweak22 | mwilson thanks |
| 04:09.26 | Qucho | somiaj: I have no idea how ot upgrade the drivers :( I assumed my X ver was the problem due to 'no screens found' problem --- also Can not open APM error from X --- Assigning section with no busID to primary device, error from X --- trying 'X -configure' wont work --- xfconfig86 will write XFConfig, and not XFConfig-4 --- |
| 04:09.29 | zarkon | It's a CD I have had for ages |
| 04:09.56 | zeeble | zarkon so why dont you boot off the CD? |
| 04:09.57 | zarkon | Worked fine installing on my comp just can't install on my little 486 |
| 04:10.05 | zarkon | coz the BIOS doesn'y support it |
| 04:10.14 | somiaj | Qucho: yes its your X, X 4.1 doesn't support newer nvidia cards with its 'nv' driver...now you can get the nvidia drivers and use those instead of the 'nv' driver just fine. |
| 04:10.15 | zarkon | doesn't |
| 04:10.28 | somiaj | Qucho: to reconfigure X, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86.... |
| 04:10.29 | zarkon | weird thats twice ive made that mistake |
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| 04:10.39 | zeeble | zarkon hmm. you have to go teh floppy install way then, as somiaj said |
| 04:10.57 | darkfusion | is anyone else having problems with fonts in the gnome in unstable? |
| 04:10.57 | zarkon | how can i turn the cd into a floppy boot and install |
| 04:10.58 | Cuga | mwilson: how u recommend i backup.. dd? |
| 04:11.01 | somiaj | Qucho: ok before we go any father, would your prefer to get the nvidia drivers, or upgrade your |
| 04:11.05 | somiaj | Qucho: X? |
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| 04:11.19 | zeeble | zarkon atleast start teh install from 1 floppy and then get it to read from teh CD |
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| 04:11.29 | zarkon | I have no install floppys |
| 04:11.30 | somiaj | zarkon: did you hear what i said....go down load teh root.bin and resuce.bin floopy images from a debian mirror?? |
| 04:11.36 | zarkon | Only the CD-ROM |
| 04:11.44 | zeeble | zarkon use the latest floppy install images from a debian mirror |
| 04:11.50 | zarkon | the cd has no *.bin files on it |
| 04:11.55 | somiaj | zarkon: those are floppy images, use those to make two floppy discs. |
| 04:12.07 | zarkon | they r not on the cd |
| 04:12.23 | zeeble | zarkon not on teh Cd, download the 2 files youi are told and write them to floppy |
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| 04:12.31 | somiaj | zarkon: a debian mirror?? when did I mention getting them from a cd, they are just approx 1.4 megs a piece, should be easy to download. |
| 04:12.33 | Cuga | mwilson: hows this look, i have 20gigs free on my /home partition, can i dd an image of /usr into there while i remake that /usr partition then dd it back into it? or does dd keep partition info aswell? |
| 04:12.49 | Qucho | somiaj: whatever is easy and makes it work :( |
| 04:12.51 | zarkon | there have got to be thousands of linux boot disks out there |
| 04:12.57 | zarkon | how do i kno wuts the write one |
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| 04:13.09 | zarkon | i have kernel 2.4 |
| 04:13.14 | zeeble | zarkon we are talking about 2 specific files in a specifc directory on a mirror |
| 04:13.17 | zarkon | running debian woody |
| 04:13.25 | somiaj | Qucho: If I have time I can help ya with either way....how about this question...do you want 3d acceleration with your card? |
| 04:13.29 | zarkon | ok where is the mirror |
| 04:13.31 | Qucho | si there a IRC package i can use in my Debian so i dont have to keep switching OS's ? |
| 04:13.47 | Qucho | somiaj: yes :) |
| 04:14.00 | zeeble | zarkon http://www.debian.org/distrib/floppyinst |
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| 04:15.01 | Tweak22 | anybody know a fdisk command that makes drive 1 look like drive 2? |
| 04:15.11 | Tweak22 | partition wise |
| 04:15.11 | zeeble | what? |
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| 04:16.01 | bob2 | Qucho: there are dozens of IRC clients in Debian. |
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| 04:16.14 | bob2 | Qucho: irssi-text is of course the best. |
| 04:16.19 | zeeble | heh |
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| 04:16.50 | Qucho | bob2: thank you, will install that one right away :) |
| 04:16.57 | vhuren | I ran tasksel and some of the stuff it cannot find... if I run tasksel again using a different aptget server (one which has the files) will this fix my installs? |
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| 04:17.00 | somiaj | Qucho: well there we have it...the 'nv' drivers don't have 3d accell..so lets get the nvidia drivers.....Now I don't use woody, so I'm trying to think of the nvidia drivers in woody are good enough for your card, as the package nvidia-glx won't install on your system cause it depends on libc6 2.3 (bad) |
| 04:17.13 | Justin_ | uh |
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| 04:17.16 | Vladkao | bob2: of course :) |
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| 04:17.38 | Justin_ | wtf would you try to install the nvidia-glx package from sid onto woody? |
| 04:17.39 | somiaj | Qucho: duh...as the newer version of the nvidia debian packages aren't compadabile with woody... |
| 04:18.01 | Qucho | ouch :( <cry> |
| 04:18.14 | somiaj | Justin_: are the ones in woody up to date enough for a geforce4 MMX 440? |
| 04:18.20 | Cuga | Situation.. i want to backup /usr so i can resize the partition.. best way to do that dd an image of that partition to somewhere else, resize the partition and dd it back? that work? or does dd keep partition info when u make it? |
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| 04:18.33 | Qucho | somiaj: should I get a different distro then ? |
| 04:18.34 | Justin_ | somiaj: yes |
| 04:18.44 | somiaj | Justin_: ok...that was what I wasn't sure off.... |
| 04:19.04 | zeeble | cuga you should be able to do it. |
| 04:19.20 | sirReal | wooo more cyrillic |
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| 04:19.42 | somiaj | Qucho: na, I am just rambling...more courious if the nvidia packages in woody are up to date enough. |
| 04:19.42 | zarkon | What disk do I need the bin files go up to about 20 |
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| 04:20.28 | agent209 | asdf |
| 04:20.44 | Vladkao | sirReal: it's not cyrillic (i hope, otherwise my terminal is screwed) |
| 04:20.51 | mwilson | PIZZA! |
| 04:20.55 | darkfusion | is anyone else having problems with fonts in gnome in unstable? |
| 04:21.00 | Cuga | zeeble: i just tryed dd if=/usr of=/home/usrbackup... but it says /usr is a dir .. is there a switch i need or a wildcard or something? |
| 04:21.02 | somiaj | Qucho: start here...apt-get install nvidia-glx-src nvidia-kernel-src then read the docs in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-src |
| 04:21.25 | mwilson | Why in the world would you use dd for that? |
| 04:21.25 | sirReal | Vladkao: what's it look like to you? backwards N's and such :) |
| 04:21.29 | darkfusion | Cuga: what are you trying to do? |
| 04:21.43 | zarkon | What disk do I need the bin files go up to 20 |
| 04:21.56 | Vladkao | sirReal: double byte chars, unicode may be |
| 04:22.08 | bird` | no ldap experts around ?? |
| 04:22.12 | Cuga | darkfusion: i want to backup my /usr partition somewhere so i can resize the partition, then restore the data |
| 04:22.13 | zeeble | Cuga bleh, just tar up the directory |
| 04:22.30 | sirReal | mwahahaha |
| 04:22.31 | darkfusion | cp -a doesn't work? |
| 04:22.45 | mwilson | Peppers are fine, as long as there are no little fishy things |
| 04:22.46 | Cuga | zeeble: ahh, good man, yeah tar file would work good |
| 04:22.48 | zeeble | pizza ! |
| 04:23.03 | Qucho | somiaj: ok, ill be back, ina couple mins |
| 04:23.12 | zarkon | Hello??? |
| 04:23.17 | Cuga | thanks :) |
| 04:23.18 | sirReal | mwilson: TONS of em. the HOT ones. are you a veggie or just not a fan of fish? |
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| 04:23.30 | JimButton | zarkon: we can't hear you |
| 04:23.40 | JimButton | zarkon: you need to use more question marks |
| 04:23.43 | mwilson | I like fish just fine. But one anchovy piece can flavor a whole pizza. |
| 04:23.53 | Vladkao | heh |
| 04:23.58 | zarkon | JimButton: well ur doing a good job of pretending |
| 04:24.05 | zarkon | Oh ok |
| 04:24.05 | JimButton | zarkon: ur? |
| 04:24.07 | Vladkao | !ur |
| 04:24.08 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. |
| 04:24.09 | zeeble | mwilson what pizza topping did you order? |
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| 04:24.16 | devsforev | Anyone have any sugguetions for a program that will broadcast my webcam images to a server? |
| 04:24.25 | zarkon | ??????????????????????? |
| 04:24.27 | zarkon | is that enuff |
| 04:24.29 | mwilson | zeeble: meat-lovers |
| 04:24.56 | Vladkao | zarkon: are you here on purpose or just wasting time? |
| 04:25.12 | agent209 | issue: doing df shows my /usr at 7% yet I'm getting "no space left on device" errors when updating |
| 04:25.19 | zarkon | im trying to find sumthing out |
| 04:25.40 | mwilson | agent209: Uh, apt downloads to /var, not /usr |
| 04:26.05 | somiaj | agent209: what is the /var partition at....apt downloads all the debs to /var/cache/apt/archives....you can clean it out by apt-get clean...that will delete all the debs on yoru comptuer though. |
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| 04:26.31 | somiaj | agent209: all the debs in your archives I mean...you could have some elsewhere it won't touch. |
| 04:26.46 | agent209 | yeah, it got all the debs...but writing them during install is breaking |
| 04:26.55 | agent209 | writing to /usr |
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| 04:27.35 | JasonBox | So, anyone familiar with TCNG? |
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| 04:28.00 | wishie | are there any X 4.3.99 apt sources available ? |
| 04:28.03 | wishie | or 4.4 ? |
| 04:28.29 | Amaranth | everything i try to compile that needs QT fails, what should i put for --with-qt-headers on the ./configure to point to where debian puts them? |
| 04:28.33 | mwilson | wishie: No. |
| 04:28.39 | JasonBox | I'm trying to get it to match TCP ack packets |
| 04:28.44 | wishie | mwilson: not even unofficial ? |
| 04:29.04 | Amaranth | wishie: its a matter of principal, no one wants to make them |
| 04:29.05 | gravity | wishie: apt-get.org will tell you |
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| 04:29.14 | mwilson | wishie: Who knows what some random person might do, or not do. Why, you'll die without 4.4 or something? |
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| 04:29.21 | somiaj | Amaranth: try a dpkg -L libqt<blah>-dev to see where its putting them |
| 04:29.37 | wishie | mwilson: well, i want the support for the CLE266 onboard video (EPIA-M) |
| 04:29.57 | Cuga | tar -cf grab all data? i wanna make sure it gets EVERYTHING hehe permissions included... |
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| 04:31.34 | wishie | Amaranth: why is it a matter of principal ? |
| 04:31.40 | agent209 | Here's one of my errors: "Writing of cache data failed: No space left on device" |
| 04:31.43 | agent209 | any ideas? |
| 04:31.51 | agent209 | this is during update |
| 04:31.59 | agent209 | installing after everything's downloaded |
| 04:32.01 | wishie | hard disk is full |
| 04:32.04 | JasonBox | heh |
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| 04:32.10 | agent209 | its not though |
| 04:32.22 | zeeble | wth, $1300 for a keyboard!!http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1038766,00.asp |
| 04:32.24 | somiaj | agent209: any partition full by chance? |
| 04:32.26 | wishie | the partition might be..if you have seperate partitions |
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| 04:33.36 | agent209 | my / is full |
| 04:33.48 | Vladkao | agent209: congratulations :) |
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| 04:34.27 | agent209 | I thought that could be small just for booting |
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| 04:34.59 | somiaj | agent209: how small is it? /var is part of / and that si probably what is full.... |
| 04:35.01 | Tweak22 | is here a different (eayser) program to use other then fdisk? |
| 04:35.03 | sirReal | zeeble: i think i saw that on "hackers" ;) |
| 04:35.12 | Vladkao | Tweak22: cfdisk |
| 04:35.13 | Tweak22 | that I can copy the partition sizes from another hard drive on the system? |
| 04:35.23 | agent209 | nope, nothing else is above 16% |
| 04:35.24 | Vladkao | copy sizes ? |
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| 04:35.34 | oneiros_ | Is there a way to "force" a remove? I am trying to apt-get remove thttpd on stable and this is what it tells me: "subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" |
| 04:35.47 | somiaj | agent209: if ya make it small, you just need to watch it and make sure you apt-get clean to deep the downloaded debs from taking up lots of it like I mentioned first... |
| 04:36.03 | Tweak22 | vladkao I need to get the same exact partition sizes from my first hard drive onto the second one so i can mirror them |
| 04:36.14 | somiaj | oneiros_: what does it say above that line? |
| 04:36.26 | oneiros_ | somiaj: dpkg: error processing thttpd (--remove): |
| 04:36.29 | agent209 | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
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| 04:36.53 | Vladkao | Tweak22: oh, i can't help you there. |
| 04:36.55 | oneiros_ | And I didn't see any sort of apt or dpkg log around |
| 04:37.05 | agent209 | "/dev/hda1 46636 46469 0 100% / |
| 04:37.14 | guest | hi simon can I help you? |
| 04:37.22 | agent209 | "/dev/hda6 4806904 655436 3907284 15% /var |
| 04:37.41 | zeeble | sirReal its weird looking, that keybord to say e least...does'tmn look like a keyboard at all :) I am sticking with my old one now |
| 04:37.44 | Vladkao | agent209: it's full |
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| 04:38.09 | SwedishChef | what is i810_rng anyway... starting to tick me off |
| 04:38.15 | simon__ | my apt-get system is nopt working |
| 04:38.16 | whatever | FUCK! |
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| 04:38.18 | somiaj | agent209: ahh...just needed to metion /var wasn't full...sorry...well maybe its trying to put someting in /etc...or some other part...you need to get some room in / to get things to work. |
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| 04:38.32 | simon__ | can someone please help me |
| 04:38.39 | justin` | can I use my 2.4.x config file for 2.6.x? |
| 04:38.40 | whatever | CURSED HDDTEMP just fucked up two of my scsi drives! |
| 04:38.41 | agent209 | maybe the cacheing is writing to / ? |
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| 04:38.52 | agent209 | how might I get room in there? |
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| 04:39.13 | agent209 | man, I had 120 gig, I should have just thrown space in there instead of being a prude |
| 04:39.18 | simon__ | can someone please help me |
| 04:39.29 | whatever | I want to kill |
| 04:39.39 | oneiros_ | simon__: You may wish to consider the etiquete for this channel |
| 04:39.47 | Vladkao | simon__: no, until you describe the problem |
| 04:39.49 | justin` | simon__: shut up |
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| 04:39.56 | agent209 | :-) |
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| 04:40.09 | whatever | whois /justin_ |
| 04:40.10 | whatever | doh |
| 04:40.19 | agent209 | ha |
| 04:40.23 | agent209 | this is entertaining |
| 04:40.24 | justin` | idiot |
| 04:40.28 | whatever | :P |
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| 04:40.47 | SwedishChef | how u prevent a module from loading at boot (or totally disabling/removing/blacklisting it) |
| 04:40.52 | agent209 | so, uh, how can I free up / without destroying my boot? |
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| 04:41.08 | justin` | SwedishChef: um, make sure its commented out in the configs? |
| 04:41.21 | SuperDaveOsbourn | oh I tried that... still no chance |
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| 04:41.23 | SuperDaveOsbourn | it still boots lol |
| 04:41.26 | whatever | I want to kill the guy who made hddtemp |
| 04:41.28 | justin` | what module |
| 04:41.41 | simon__ | i apt-get upgraded the other day and now i've rrebooted my mouse does not respond |
| 04:41.42 | oneiros_ | Well, thanks anyway |
| 04:41.44 | hanasaki_ | apt-get is saying " Depends: xlibs (> 4.2.0) but it is not going to be installed" but i already have a version higher than this installed. i have read the man pages on apt-get and preferences what exactly does this mean? |
| 04:41.47 | SuperDaveOsbourn | i810_rng and i82365 |
| 04:42.06 | justin` | SuperDaveOsbourn: blacklist the cock sucker |
| 04:42.10 | SuperDaveOsbourn | I did |
| 04:42.20 | hanasaki_ | xlibs 4.3.0-7 install ok installed |
| 04:42.25 | SuperDaveOsbourn | . /etc/hotplug/blacklist. its there, its saved! it still reboots |
| 04:42.38 | justin` | SuperDaveOsbourn: what's it for, sound? |
| 04:42.46 | SuperDaveOsbourn | yeah for the onboard intel crapahola sound |
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| 04:43.03 | justin` | SuperDaveOsbourn: a kernel compile you did? |
| 04:43.05 | SuperDaveOsbourn | which I disabled in the bios anyway |
| 04:43.13 | SuperDaveOsbourn | what kernel compile. RIGHT AFTER a debian install |
| 04:43.14 | elis | gift-fasttrack plugin is not available in the debian sid packages? |
| 04:43.30 | SuperDaveOsbourn | tried beta 3 two times... no luck disabling them |
| 04:43.38 | simon__ | i apt-get upgraded the other day and now i've rrebooted my mouse does not respond can someone help me please? |
| 04:43.43 | justin` | SuperDaveOsbourn: debian is lame, try some other distro |
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| 04:43.50 | SuperDaveOsbourn | tahts not an answer noob |
| 04:44.00 | justin` | noob? |
| 04:44.04 | Vladkao | justin`: lame? |
| 04:44.05 | SuperDaveOsbourn | well saying that its lame... |
| 04:44.11 | justin` | you're the one having trouble with modules rofl |
| 04:44.17 | cafuego | lame is an mp3 encoder |
| 04:44.33 | SuperDaveOsbourn | well see, have same exact problem in slack but in slack, just blacklisting it works |
| 04:44.37 | SuperDaveOsbourn | but not under deb |
| 04:44.43 | justin` | HA |
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| 04:45.13 | guest | simon: did you try apt-get install --fix-missing |
| 04:45.26 | simon__ | no i will do that now |
| 04:45.28 | Tweak22 | durring the mirroring attempt I got md: could not lock sda1 any ideas? |
| 04:45.39 | hanasaki | does APT::Default-Release need to be specifed if i have a /etc/apt/preference file w/ the default set to priority 995? |
| 04:45.55 | whatever | Tweak22: if something else is using the drive, is usually when you get a msg like that |
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| 04:45.58 | zignig | cafuego: aaaaaargh |
| 04:46.02 | Tweak22 | oh like my ssh? |
| 04:46.04 | Cuga | whats best tool to partition disks in linux? fdisk? |
| 04:46.12 | Qucho | somiaj: im having trouble finding the kerner top lvl source directory |
| 04:46.16 | cafuego | !best |
| 04:46.16 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! |
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| 04:46.28 | whatever | Tweak22: ....dunno |
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| 04:46.41 | Cuga | Reword... What is a tool i can use to resize my partitions... |
| 04:46.42 | cafuego | Cuga: I find usiong a hex editor on the partition map gives me the most flexible options. |
| 04:46.48 | cafuego | Cuga: parted |
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| 04:46.54 | simon__ | i hgave unmet dependencies |
| 04:46.58 | elis | gift-fasttrack plugin is not available in the debian sid packages? |
| 04:47.09 | simon__ | it says try sudo apt-get -f install |
| 04:47.18 | simon__ | whiich i've done |
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| 04:47.28 | simon__ | but does not fix the problem |
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| 04:47.37 | kenade | simon__: are you in sid? |
| 04:47.49 | simon__ | waht is sid |
| 04:47.54 | simon__ | i'm a newbiwe |
| 04:47.56 | SuperDaveOsbourn | its a star trek convention |
| 04:48.07 | whatever | simon__: sid is the testing distribution for debian |
| 04:48.13 | whatever | er |
| 04:48.15 | whatever | *unstable |
| 04:48.22 | simon__ | yes unstable |
| 04:48.29 | kenade | simon__: /t |
| 04:48.33 | Cuga | anybody used parted before? |
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| 04:48.57 | gravity | simon__: http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 04:49.17 | fdd | Cuga: u can use qtparted, know dont have to read |
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| 04:50.47 | mwilson | Let us build 2.6.4 and see what we get... |
| 04:51.29 | simon__ | so i think i may have messed apt-get up when i did apt-get dselect upgrade to try and fix my mouse |
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| 04:52.13 | Qucho | somiaj: are you still arround ? |
| 04:52.14 | bob2 | how could that fix your mouse? |
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| 04:52.17 | Vladkao | how's called the base mysql package? |
| 04:52.42 | simon__ | i dont know - i iwas clutchingb at straws |
| 04:52.44 | bob2 | for what? |
| 04:53.08 | justin | hello all, i wanted to hoist a website on my system, woody r1. |
| 04:53.10 | simon__ | my mouse stopped working after i upgraded and rebooted |
| 04:53.21 | bob2 | simon__: upgraded what? |
| 04:53.26 | bob2 | please don't say your kernel. |
| 04:53.29 | simon__ | apt-get upgraded |
| 04:53.36 | justin | can some one please suggest reading material for doing so |
| 04:53.48 | Supaplex | readers digest won't have it. |
| 04:53.50 | Vladkao | justin: apache.org |
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| 04:53.55 | gravity | justin: /usr/share/doc/apache |
| 04:54.10 | justin | that will do |
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| 04:54.12 | Cuga | Monkey wrentch in here... need to resize XFS partition.. parted can't do it |
| 04:54.21 | fdd | justin:www.devshed.com |
| 04:54.22 | simon__ | it asked me if i wanted to do something with gdm and i said yes which i think has caused the mouse to stop working |
| 04:54.28 | agent209 | so, uh, how can I free up / without destroying my boot? |
| 04:54.37 | bob2 | justin: install apache-doc. |
| 04:54.40 | assNav | I am trying to fdformat, but it says "ioctl(FDFMTTRK): Device or resource busy |
| 04:54.54 | bob2 | Vladkao: what part of mysql? |
| 04:55.19 | Qucho | where is located the kernel source directory in woody ? |
| 04:55.21 | justin | mine is a dial up connection hence my ip changes every time i dial up. i ran appache but could not access from outside |
| 04:55.21 | Tweak22 | anybody have any idea why my mkraid md: could not lock sda1? |
| 04:55.50 | bob2 | Qucho: there isn't one |
| 04:55.55 | bob2 | Qucho: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 04:56.17 | Qucho | somiaj was instructing me to update my nvidia drivers |
| 04:56.37 | bob2 | you don't need kernel source for that |
| 04:56.37 | Tweak22 | md: could not lock sda1. md: error, md_import_device() retured -16 |
| 04:56.45 | bob2 | Tweak22: obviously no one knows |
| 04:56.50 | bob2 | Tweak22: go ask on the debian-user list |
| 04:57.01 | bob2 | Qucho: apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 04:57.16 | Tweak22 | debian-user list? |
| 04:57.37 | bob2 | !+d-u |
| 04:57.37 | dpkg | d-u is, like, the debian-user list; sign up at http://lists.debian.org/. Use an interesting subject, and include useful information in the body, we're not mindreaders! |
| 04:58.04 | zeeble | get ready to have most of your mailbox fill up quickly |
| 04:58.15 | justin | i ran appache after dialing up, could access by giving ip from my system, i asked my friend to try to access from his house but he could not |
| 04:58.24 | bob2 | justin: talk to your isp |
| 04:58.25 | Tweak22 | zeeble its a spam thing? |
| 04:58.30 | bob2 | justin: fix whatever firewall you setup |
| 04:58.34 | simon__ | it asked me if i wanted to do something with bob2 : gdm and i said yes which i think has caused the mouse to stop working |
| 04:58.40 | zeeble | Tweak22 heck no. its just thatthe group is very active |
| 04:59.02 | Tweak22 | zeeble oh I email them and they help me? |
| 04:59.09 | justin | why? |
| 04:59.28 | mwilson | <SCARF> |
| 04:59.32 | zeeble | Tweak22 but yes, there will be much better help on the list than here. yeah. you mail adn wait for help. |
| 04:59.43 | Vladkao | bob2: nevermind, apt-cache search knows it :) |
| 04:59.46 | justin | if they were blocking then can you please explain how i could access from my sys |
| 05:00.08 | mwilson | <MUNCH> |
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| 05:00.35 | zignig | mwilson: yummy lunch ? |
| 05:00.43 | Qucho | bob2: error; couln'd find pakage kernel-headers2.2.20-idepci |
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| 05:01.51 | cafuego | Qucho: No, idepci is an install kernel. Why not upgrade to a real kernel first? |
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| 05:01.59 | justin | bob2: i have no fire wall set up |
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| 05:02.27 | Qucho | cafuego: because i am a totally new to linux, i just want the X server to run :( |
| 05:02.49 | cafuego | Qucho: Install a proper kernel first. THEN get X working. |
| 05:03.04 | cafuego | Qucho: 2.2.20 is about 3 years old to boot. |
| 05:03.50 | justin | cafuego: run xf86cfg |
| 05:04.00 | Qucho | how i verufy the kernel ver installed ? I just got the new woody distro |
| 05:04.12 | mith | uname -a |
| 05:04.37 | Qucho | yup u are right, i have 2.2.20 |
| 05:04.38 | simon__ | can anyone helkp me sort out my apt-get systemtm - it says i have unmet dependecies and i've tried apt-get -f install but it doesn't help |
| 05:04.47 | cafuego | justin: No, don't ever run that. |
| 05:05.10 | justin | why is that so, i configured my X running that |
| 05:05.10 | cafuego | Qucho: Get 2.4.18 at *least* |
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| 05:05.42 | Supaplex | ~burp |
| 05:05.43 | apt | ACTION burps loudly |
| 05:05.50 | mith | err 2.4.18 has a local exploit ... |
| 05:06.03 | Supaplex | mith correction, a handfull |
| 05:06.04 | Qucho | well i guess i need to research how to install a new kernel then :( |
| 05:06.05 | Amaranth | is there some way i can revert my debian system back to exactly how it was when i first installed? |
| 05:06.10 | cafuego | Nov 2 2001 linux-2.2.20.tar.gz |
| 05:06.16 | cafuego | ancient |
| 05:06.16 | gravity | Amaranth: Reinstall |
| 05:06.18 | Supaplex | Qucho /msg dpkg kp |
| 05:06.23 | Amaranth | gravity: i lost my CD |
| 05:06.25 | cafuego | mith: The debian packaged one doesn't. |
| 05:06.28 | gravity | Amaranth: Download a new one |
| 05:06.34 | JimButton | Amaranth: timetravel |
| 05:06.38 | Amaranth | gravity: it was my last blank CD |
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| 05:07.01 | gravity | Amaranth: What did you change that you want undone exactly? |
| 05:07.03 | cafuego | Qucho: apt-cache search kernel-image --. Pick the one you need (highest number, matching cpu type) and apt-get install it. |
| 05:07.09 | Amaranth | gravity: everything :P |
| 05:07.28 | gravity | Uh... |
| 05:07.28 | zeeble | Amaranth how far is the nearest stationary store? |
| 05:07.33 | Qucho | cafuego: ok.. working on it ... |
| 05:07.35 | justin | someone please explain if running appache is enough to hoist site, mine is a dial-up connection |
| 05:07.36 | Amaranth | too far |
| 05:07.45 | gravity | Amaranth: Do you have any floppies? |
| 05:07.48 | gravity | You could use them |
| 05:07.54 | Amaranth | i don't even have a floppy drive |
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| 05:08.03 | cafuego | justin: if you wanna host an ftp site apache just won't do. |
| 05:08.04 | zeeble | Amaranth i am sure there is people who are too lazy |
| 05:08.08 | scarynetworkguyh | what packace provides LWM/Simple.pm? |
| 05:08.14 | simon__ | can anyone helkp me sort out my apt-get systemtm - it says i have unmet dependecies and i've tried apt-get -f install but it doesn't help |
| 05:08.19 | zeeble | err, no quick fix for people who are too lazy |
| 05:08.20 | gravity | Amaranth: If your system is in working order, you can basically do anything you want to it |
| 05:08.29 | justin | no i only want HTTP server to run |
| 05:08.38 | lucas | justin, yes you only need apache |
| 05:08.45 | mith | justin: why would you run a web page off a dialup connection? |
| 05:08.48 | cafuego | justin: Then apache will do. |
| 05:08.55 | zignig | mith: hey ! , I do that . |
| 05:09.03 | justin | i want to learn things |
| 05:09.19 | justin | have no other means |
| 05:09.19 | zeeble | lucas hey, were you teh chap who was trying to run gforge? what happened? |
| 05:09.33 | zeeble | zignig gimme your URL :) let me swamp the connection |
| 05:09.42 | cafuego | mith: You cna host a few simple pages without large image files via dialup just fine. |
| 05:09.43 | zignig | zeeble: no |
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| 05:09.54 | mith | cafuego: sure, if you like latency |
| 05:09.56 | Supaplex | zeeble: http://127.27.12.111/ |
| 05:09.56 | scarynetworkguyh | what packace provides LWM/Simple.pm? |
| 05:10.09 | Vladkao | i get "failed to load ... libstdc++.so.5" where do i get that ? |
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| 05:10.24 | cafuego | mith: Those 300msec aren't even noticable. |
| 05:10.25 | Supaplex | scarynetworkguyh try http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 05:10.48 | hooya | hey hyde |
| 05:10.50 | cafuego | scarynetworkguyh: packages.debian.org |
| 05:10.51 | gravity | Amaranth: Purge it |
| 05:10.51 | mith | cafuego: it's noticable with ssh and with http, this is from experience. |
| 05:10.56 | Amaranth | gravity: ? |
| 05:10.58 | gravity | Amaranth: Purging it will get rid of the config files |
| 05:11.00 | lucas | zeeble, hey yeah well i installed it, couldn't be bothered configuring ldap, tried to uninstall it, packages broke, couldn't install anything via apt, re-installed it just so i could install other stuff without apt breaking, it's still unconfigured... it looks cool though :) |
| 05:11.04 | gravity | Amaranth: apt-get purge foo |
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| 05:11.07 | gravity | Amaranth: Instead of remove |
| 05:11.08 | Amaranth | ack |
| 05:11.23 | Amaranth | too late for that, will have to manually remove lots of them |
| 05:11.30 | vhuren | inorder to just compile an additional module you dont need to recompile the whole kernel and install it right? |
| 05:11.31 | vhuren | ? |
| 05:11.33 | cafuego | mith: I sued to host a FEW sites via 56k and from a cable client there was no noticable difference between them and a large webfarm hosted site (like say Yahoo) |
| 05:11.33 | scarynetworkguyh | Vladkao dpkg -l *libstdc* |
| 05:11.53 | cafuego | mith: ... now if you get a few simultaneous hits that's a different matter altogether. |
| 05:11.58 | zeeble | lucas hmm, these guys are using it full time http://sarovar.org/ |
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| 05:12.06 | zeeble | lucas on a woody box though |
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| 05:12.42 | simon__ | anyone konw how to fix unmet dependencies in apt-get when apt-get -f install doesn't work |
| 05:12.42 | cafuego | Incidentally, did my download go wrong or is the coreutils.deb on the sarge beta3 iso really broken? |
| 05:12.45 | lucas | zeeble, yeah it does look good, our development team is only 2 and 1/2 people but i think it would still be nice |
| 05:12.59 | zeeble | lucas true. |
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| 05:14.51 | justin | ok so i have appache running am able to access it from here can some one please try to access 61.1.242.106 |
| 05:14.52 | jinnee | ipt_pptp_nat no longer exists in kernel 2.6,How can I do? |
| 05:15.27 | turor | Works for me. |
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| 05:17.19 | pyr3_sayz | Is there a way to map the left mouse button to a click on the right mouse button + meta key (Windows Key or Mac CMD key depending on the keyboard) |
