| 00:00.11 | timzter | baz, /etc/init.d/exim4 restart returns nothing (as tho it worked), but telnet localhost 25 says Connection refused |
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| 00:01.06 | caphuso | timzter: check your /etc/inetd.conf |
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| 00:01.33 | Caveman- | is there a better program than this for debian ?? http://freshmeat.net/projects/checkinstall/ |
| 00:01.57 | baz | ah, caphuso sounds like he might be more help than me :) |
| 00:02.04 | baz | as usual, curse him |
| 00:02.10 | zezom | there's something wrong with the debian install cd I have... is it possible to use a net boot disk but just point it at the cd's reposatory? |
| 00:02.23 | caphuso | zezom: yes |
| 00:02.32 | zezom | caphuso: thanks |
| 00:02.40 | Vonderbecke | I'm trying to upgrade from 2.2.14 to 2.2.18 and I'm having problems getting the system to boot. I'm using a raid1 and initial ramdisk and when i boot the new kernel i get a VFS panic can't mount /dev/md2 (root), it works fine on the 2.2.14 kernel - maybe I'm missing something. I have the initrd image created and set in lilo. Can anyone help? I'm in a real bind |
| 00:02.57 | bucky | tom17h, is this a back port ? |
| 00:03.03 | bucky | of kde |
| 00:04.00 | tom17h | bucky: debian unstable, whatever apt-get upgrade got me. |
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| 00:04.51 | tarzeau | Caveman-: not sure, know stow? |
| 00:05.02 | tarzeau | Caveman-: there's atleast stow and another such tool |
| 00:05.59 | bucky | tom17h, cool... i'd apt-get install mozilla and check yes when it asks me if i want my fonts to be handled by defoma... that usually straightens out my ttf's for me |
| 00:06.15 | tom17h | bucky: Okay, I'll give that a go. |
| 00:06.48 | tom17h | bucky: btw, I noticed firefox's logo went away -- I guess the mozilla folks couldn't make the art license friendly enough for debian after all... |
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| 00:07.59 | Caveman- | tarzeau: no thats not really what I am after |
| 00:08.02 | Caveman- | but thanks |
| 00:08.10 | Maquiavelo | Is anyone familiar with TMDA ? |
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| 00:08.28 | Caveman- | I have no idea how to make deb packages yet and checkinstall looks easy |
| 00:09.20 | tarzeau | Caveman-: www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/debian-packaging/ |
| 00:09.48 | tarzeau | Caveman-: learn making deb packages, it's easy. |
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| 00:11.07 | Caveman- | tarzeau: cool thanks for the link.. |
| 00:11.17 | Caveman- | but hey.. this is my second day on deb :) |
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| 00:12.03 | wujimmy | hi |
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| 00:12.33 | wujimmy | what is the means of debisn? |
| 00:12.34 | Maquiavelo | Is anyone familiar with TMDA ? |
| 00:12.49 | wujimmy | what is tmda? |
| 00:13.13 | baz | heh |
| 00:13.13 | baz | that's a no then |
| 00:13.20 | tom17h | bucky: Hmm...apt-get install mozilla just installed it -- no defoma question, no change in the display of fonts. |
| 00:13.22 | Inc3pt | My debian install keeps freezing in random places when im booting, but if I boot into windows, its fine. Ive ran fsck on the partition, but on boot it says "EXT3-fs: recovery required on readonly filesystem"..Am I screwed? Or please help me fix this?! |
| 00:13.38 | timzter | Is there an easy way to download/install exim4 from http://packages.debian.org/testing/mail/exim4 such that it takes along all dependent packages without my having to do it manually? |
| 00:13.48 | baz | Inc3pt: init 1, umount /, fsck /dev/bla |
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| 00:14.10 | |XO| | http://hell.pit-of-despair.com/linux-chicks/linuxchick056.jpg |
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| 00:14.55 | bucky | tom17h, that's weird .. usually it asks me if i want defoma - maybe because i'm running xfs and some ttf's already |
| 00:14.56 | Inc3pt | (baz): I assume init 1 means boot to SingleUsermode? ..If so, did that, it says "inode (long number) has non-zero size, Fix?"...I say Yes. And then it just stops, and didnt fix anything... |
| 00:15.17 | sophistication | turkey sandwich |
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| 00:15.27 | baz | Inc3pt: init 1 is singleuser mode, yes |
| 00:15.33 | knoppix | jj |
| 00:15.38 | Inc3pt | (baz): so then, what do i do? Ive tried that... |
| 00:15.38 | baz | Inc3pt: I hope you unmounted / rw before you fscked |
| 00:15.42 | bucky | tom17h, maybe apt-get xfs and a couple of ttf's and then apt-get --reinstall install mozilla |
| 00:15.43 | Inc3pt | (baz): yes, i did. |
| 00:16.04 | tom17h | bucky: apt-getting xfs as we speak. That brought along a number of font packages that look reasonable. |
| 00:16.07 | quinten | i'm about to install a parallel port, postscript printer |
| 00:16.15 | quinten | what's the best printer subsystem to use? cups, lpr, or lprng? |
| 00:16.17 | baz | Inc3pt: been rebooting without unmounting filesystems? could be hardware, could be corrupted to death |
| 00:16.31 | tarzeau | |XO|: you should make the same photo without shirt! or when it's raining |
| 00:16.33 | baz | quinten: 'best' is misleading |
| 00:16.47 | bernard | quinten: I don't knw if it's the best but cups works well |
| 00:16.51 | bucky | tom17h, it just needs those ttf's and there's a box in kde control center to check for ttf's too |
| 00:16.52 | Inc3pt | (baz): I dont think I have...I dont think its hardware because most everything in the comp is new, and I can boot into windows just fine... |
| 00:17.05 | quinten | baz: i'll also say that i'd like to share it with one other person on the local network, but i just want whatever is easiest to configure and most compatible |
| 00:17.05 | bernard | quinten: easy to configure too |
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| 00:17.09 | baz | Inc3pt: yes, windows uses a different partition |
| 00:17.20 | baz | quinten: use cups, but don't tell esr |
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| 00:17.32 | caphuso | it's about damn near impossible to misconfigure a PS printer, so what spooler you use is quite irrelevant |
| 00:17.42 | Inc3pt | (baz): from Windows, PartitionExpert says "Error: Filesystem has unfinished journal transcations"...Could this be it? And if so, is there a way to fix it? |
| 00:17.44 | caphuso | oh, and ESR is on crack |
| 00:17.55 | caphuso | (just stating the obvious) |
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| 00:18.32 | baz | caphuso: damn good crack though |
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| 00:19.39 | Vladkao | caphuso: talking about that article... |
| 00:19.48 | caphuso | Vladkao: no, about ESR |
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| 00:20.09 | Inc3pt | (baz): any ideas?... |
| 00:20.13 | caphuso | that article is only a minor piece of the whole "ESR has a crack problem" story |
| 00:20.21 | Vladkao | heh |
| 00:20.23 | timzter | which is better? -- 'testing' or 'unstable'? |
| 00:20.34 | Vladkao | caphuso: but he is right about the wizards. |
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| 00:20.39 | Vladkao | timzter: stable |
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| 00:20.51 | timzter | vladkao...no, exim4 is not in stable yet. |
| 00:20.54 | dondelelcaro | !better |
| 00:20.55 | dpkg | i heard better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
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| 00:21.28 | caphuso | Vladkao: have you ever used fetchmailconf? |
| 00:21.50 | Vladkao | nope |
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| 00:22.08 | Vladkao | caphuso: i'm talking about Wizards in general. |
| 00:22.19 | caphuso | Vladkao: well, try it. after that you'll never ever going to listen to ESR talking about wizards anymore |
| 00:22.42 | dondelelcaro | caphuso: not to mention how much it screws up working fetchmail configurations... |
| 00:22.43 | Vladkao | caphuso: oh, ok. :) |
| 00:22.49 | beta3 | caphuso: what happened to reading documentation? |
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| 00:23.02 | beta3 | dondelelcaro: I know |
| 00:23.27 | Inc3pt | it seems you dissapeared baz.. |
| 00:23.28 | caphuso | dondelelcaro: hah, i never let it touch a working config :) |
| 00:23.44 | caphuso | beta3: probably the same that happened to common sense |
| 00:23.53 | beta3 | caphuso: hmm, thats likely |
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| 00:24.02 | Vladkao | beta3: you read? :) |
| 00:24.03 | dondelelcaro | caphuso: comon since is a liberal commie fascist myth... ;-) |
| 00:24.13 | beta3 | Vladkao: very much so |
| 00:24.13 | dondelelcaro | s/since/sense/ |
| 00:24.15 | caphuso | hehe |
| 00:24.23 | beta3 | hehe |
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| 00:24.56 | beta3 | dondelelcaro: I always believed it worked better than the current system, 'idiocy' |
| 00:25.20 | tom17h | bucky: still no dice. I'm going to restart X just in case that's in the way. brb. |
| 00:25.29 | opti | I've got a digital camera and just tried getting it to work. I installed gphoto2 and gtkam, but I'm kind of lost on what to do from here. gtkam doesn't detect the camera. |
| 00:25.47 | beta3 | Vladkao: I have read every o'reilly book on my shelf, its up to 12 now |
| 00:25.48 | Vladkao | opti: what about reading the documentation ? :) |
| 00:25.49 | baz | opti: modules, modules, modules |
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| 00:26.00 | dondelelcaro | opti: does gphoto2 --auto-detect list the camera? |
| 00:26.11 | Vladkao | beta3: computer related only? what about literature ? |
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| 00:26.24 | scarynetworkguy | opti what camera is it? |
| 00:26.26 | opti | dondelelcaro: nope |
| 00:26.31 | opti | scarynetworkguy: Canon A80 |
| 00:26.34 | beta3 | dondelelcaro: I think we should have one time passcodes generated for use to access this channel, after reading a documentation file |
| 00:27.02 | dondelelcaro | opti: well, then you'll have to make sure gphoto2 can recognize it, and that you've specified the port and model correctly. |
| 00:27.08 | timzter | iz it ok to have the 'testing' version of libc6 while keeping other packages the same? |
| 00:27.16 | dondelelcaro | timzter: no, in general. |
| 00:27.19 | timzter | iz it ok to have the 'testing' version of libc6 while keeping other 'stable' packages the same? |
| 00:27.22 | timzter | oh? grrr |
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| 00:27.27 | timzter | then what do I do?? I want exim4 |
| 00:27.32 | dondelelcaro | opti: but odds are it's because you're not running gphoto2 as root, or you've not loaded the appropriate module. |
| 00:27.36 | scarynetworkguy | opti have you checked the HCL on gphoto's site? |
| 00:27.37 | dondelelcaro | timzter: get a backport of exim4 |
| 00:27.41 | opti | dondelelcaro: the port is... well, USB, the model is obviously correct, and I'm not sure how to "make sure" gphoto2 recognizes it. |
| 00:27.42 | beta3 | dondelelcaro: logically, itd be for a better world :) |
| 00:28.09 | opti | scarynetworkguy: no, didn't see an "HCL" |
| 00:28.09 | timzter | dondelelcaro: I already tried going to backports.org and got the exim4 from there, but it wouldnt compile without errors |
| 00:28.17 | opti | scarynetworkguy: oh, hardware compatibility list |
| 00:28.22 | opti | scarynetworkguy: it's compatible. |
| 00:28.23 | dondelelcaro | timzter: you don't compile it from there. You *INSTALL* it from there. |
| 00:28.29 | beta3 | opti: try google,man, /usr/share/doc, and if you can prove its not documented anywhere, you can come laugh at me |
| 00:28.30 | timzter | ok ok install. |
| 00:28.37 | timzter | oh wait...I had to compile |
| 00:28.40 | scarynetworkguy | opti what was it again? |
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| 00:29.23 | beta3 | dondelelcaro: or dictators who decide if the user is allowed to come in :) |
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| 00:29.56 | tom17h | bucky: good enough for government work. The defaults still go crazy (though differently crazy), but bitstream-vera looks reasonable. |
| 00:29.57 | dondelelcaro | opti: so then (as root) run gphoto2 --camera "Canon PowerShot A80 (normal mode)" --port usb -P or similar, making sure of course, that dmesg sees the camera being plugged in. |
| 00:30.00 | opti | beta3: is this channel for support, or for people to sit around and chat about nonsense? Linux doesn't often point you in an obvious direction, and documentation usually doesn't help in my experience (furthermore I don't even know what program's documentation I should be looking at -- gphoto? Hotplug? Etc.) |
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| 00:30.05 | timzter | dondelelcaro: I went to backports.org and downloaded exim-4.30.tar.bz2, I bunzip'd it and attempted to follow the instructions in its README. It *does* want me to compile. I dont understand why you said I dont have to compile. |
| 00:30.16 | scarynetworkguy | opti the thing that bit me after mine got on the list was that it shipped in the wrong mode. After a quick look at the list you might want to make sure your camera is in "normal" mode. |
| 00:30.20 | Vladkao | beta3: it will be contrary to the "open community" paradigm |
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| 00:30.28 | opti | on the phone, bbiab |
| 00:30.29 | bucky | tom17h, it takes some tweaking especially in kde |
| 00:30.31 | beta3 | opti: try gphoto first |
| 00:30.36 | dondelelcaro | timzter: no. You add a source line for backports.org, and you install the *.deb* from backports.org. You do not compile at all. |
| 00:30.45 | scarynetworkguy | opti mine shipped in some mass storage device mode and I had to put it in the other mode to make it work. |
| 00:30.53 | beta3 | opti: its likely that if its using usb, its going to use the libusb interface |
| 00:30.58 | tom17h | bucky: Yup. Something fundamental must be messed up still, though, because the defaults ought to just work. |
| 00:30.58 | beta3 | which has nothing to do with hotplug |
| 00:31.12 | beta3 | opti: however, make sure you install libusb-dev |
| 00:31.13 | baz | opti: rtfm sounds harsh, but is the best advice you'll ever get. learn to use your brain :-) |
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| 00:32.01 | dondelelcaro | scarynetworkguy: cannon's don't support USB MS. [I personally like USB MS better, frankly...] |
| 00:32.07 | bucky | tom17h, to tell the truth i messed with it for a long time and could never get it to work the way i wanted so i use another desktop now |
| 00:32.40 | dondelelcaro | timzter: read http://www.backports.org/installation.html |
| 00:32.41 | tom17h | bucky: Perhaps. I've just been playing with KDE recently. I used Gnome devotedly for a long time, and, when I was feeling hackerly, ratpoison. |
| 00:33.05 | baz | I like canon cameras. my powershot a300 works perfectly in linux. personal taste I guess |
| 00:33.08 | timzter | dondelelcaro: ok thankx |
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| 00:33.31 | dondelelcaro | baz: they work fine, they just don't support USB MS, which is kind of lame. |
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| 00:34.08 | baz | dondelelcaro: only lame if you want/need USB MS - I don't. It's a camera. |
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| 00:34.21 | bucky | tom17h, you know what.. i got the gnome 2.4 from progeny and it looks like bluecurve except with the gnome panels |
| 00:34.31 | Inc3pt | Is there anyway to force ext3 to rewrite its journal? |
| 00:34.44 | bucky | and i never really liked gnome before... but i like this |
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| 00:34.46 | timzter | Another thing I dont understand is that /msg dpkg backports says: backport is a package that was compiled for an older debian release... but why 'older'? exim4 is newer. <confused!> |
| 00:34.49 | dondelelcaro | baz: it's also just a file storage medium. It's quite nice to be able to mount the camera's flash media as what it is, just a disk. |
| 00:35.05 | opti | scarynetworkguy: I guess I'll look in my camera manual for setting modes in a second; what are the different modes for anyway? |
| 00:35.11 | idnarhtim | timzter: yes, but woody is older |
| 00:35.16 | baz | timzter: your version of debian is an older release than sarge (which uses exim4) |
| 00:35.23 | dondelelcaro | timzter: you're using stable. That's the newest debian release. You want to use newer packages, like exim4. So you have to use backports.org |
| 00:35.44 | opti | beta3: ah, hotplug was installed as a dependency |
| 00:35.52 | baz | dondelelcaro: I do understand, just wouldn't ever use that feature if it did work :) |
| 00:35.53 | tom17h | bucky: I really liked the way gnome looked. There are a few things oddball things I like in KDE, like on-the-fly spellchecking in forms in konqueror. But other things are much uglier (most panel applets). |
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| 00:36.07 | opti | just checked btw, libusb is installed |
| 00:36.26 | scarynetworkguy | opti I don't know much about cameras but mine has two modes something that makes it basically a mass storage device and a PTP mode if you look at the list yours listed as working in "normal" mode I don't know what that means but your manual should shed some light. Do you know where the list I refer to is? |
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| 00:36.44 | scarynetworkguy | opti http://www.gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php |
| 00:36.58 | timzter | (still somewhat lost about woody/sarge/older/newer) |
| 00:37.22 | baz | timzter: woody is stable and old, sarge is the next release and hence newer |
| 00:37.34 | timzter | baz, is sarge stable? |
| 00:37.39 | bucky | tom17h, the only kde thing i really like is their file browser and i've just learned to live without it |
| 00:37.42 | baz | timzter: no, woody is stable |
| 00:37.45 | scarynetworkguy | linear time *is* a bitch to understand |
| 00:37.47 | baz | timzter: sarge is testing |
| 00:37.57 | opti | scarynetworkguy: it works in both normal and PTP modes |
| 00:38.03 | tom17h | bucky: yup -- I like splittable windows. But the gtk file selector at least should be improving soon. |
| 00:38.07 | dondelelcaro | baz: You probably would actually... *shrug*. I have the S230, and it's one of the major problems... having to install drivers to get pictures off is kind of silly. |
| 00:38.09 | baz | bucky: what's wrong with the gnome file selector? ;) |
| 00:38.14 | timzter | baz, so I can keep woody (stable) and yet install new/sarge packages? |
| 00:38.18 | scarynetworkguy | opti was I reading the list wrong |
| 00:38.31 | baz | timzter: using backports, yes. not officially supported though iirc |
| 00:38.32 | bucky | baz, it's a lot better than the old gmc days |
| 00:38.47 | opti | scarynetworkguy: not sure what you mean... ? How were you reading it wrong? |
| 00:38.49 | Justin | dondelelcaro: gphoto is also kinda broken in debian since it requires you to screw with a ton of hotplug stuff to get the permissions in /proc/bus/usb right |
| 00:38.49 | baz | dondelelcaro: *shrug* gphoto -P (or whatever the switch was) works fine for me |
| 00:38.52 | zezom | with the debin install boot disk is there a way to skip the partition a hard disk menu if I do it manualy with another boot disk? it's just that that part of the install process is failing and I can't go on until it's done |
| 00:39.04 | don992 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:39.22 | Justin | dondelelcaro: unless they fixed gphoto/hotplug recently:) |
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| 00:39.43 | dondelelcaro | baz: yes, but that assumes you have gphoto2. With USB MS, anything that supports USB MS can read the pictures off... which is pretty much everything. |
| 00:40.07 | timzter | dondelelcaro: i am reading http://www.backports.org/installation.html. It says to add "deb http://www.backports.org/debian stable package ...". OK, so I replace 'package' with exim4. But what are the ellipses? What do I type in there? |
| 00:40.08 | dondelelcaro | Justin: yeah, it's kind of broken. I haven't bothered to tweak the permisions properly yet... |
| 00:40.11 | baz | dondelelcaro: so your point is that I would like USB MS if I somehow wasn't allowed to use the software that works with my camera? :) |
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| 00:41.07 | sirReal | how does one force dpkg to override the 'directory not empty, so not removed' thing? |
| 00:41.09 | dondelelcaro | baz: no. Have you ever wanted to give your pictures to someone else who didn't happen to have the cannon drivers installed? Or tried to get pictures off of someone's camera who had a cannon? It's quite freaking annoying. |
| 00:41.18 | dondelelcaro | sirReal: you don't. That's just a warning, not an error. |
| 00:41.38 | sirReal | dondelelcaro: i know... so there's no way to force it to remove it anyway? |
| 00:41.41 | dondelelcaro | timzter: you can add multiple packages on a single line. |
| 00:41.44 | opti | dondelelcaro: I'm not seeing anything in dmesg. |
| 00:41.46 | baz | dondelelcaro: 1 - yes, I email them or point them to my website. 2 - gphoto2 supports canons, so that would work fine wouldn't it? |
| 00:41.53 | timzter | oh ok |
| 00:41.59 | dondelelcaro | sirReal: you remove it by hand... |
| 00:42.16 | baz | dondelelcaro: I get your point that in principle it's bad, but in practise it works fine for me. YMMV, etc |
| 00:42.20 | timzter | dondelelcaro: But I dont even see the word "exim" anywhere in http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/woody/ |
| 00:42.21 | sirReal | yeah i guess </lazy> |
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| 00:43.38 | dondelelcaro | baz: it's just sub optimal. Obviously you can make it work. Hell, I make it work. I just dislike it. |
| 00:43.42 | Justin | dondelelcaro: I think anyone that takes pictures for real just uses card readers |
| 00:43.55 | baz | dondelelcaro: point taken :) |
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| 00:44.17 | baz | any devs in btw? bad question, but is xfree4.3 ever going to hit sarge? |
| 00:44.27 | dondelelcaro | Justin: yeah, I just haven't gotten my PCMCIA reader working correctly here... hotplug and/or the kernel is broken and keeps panicing the box. |
| 00:44.36 | dondelelcaro | !tell baz about why xfree86 isn't in testing |
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| 00:44.58 | idnarhtim | heh |
| 00:45.03 | dondelelcaro | !why is xfree86 not in testing |
| 00:45.05 | dpkg | xfree86 is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=xfree86 |
| 00:45.09 | timzter | dondelelcaro: pls tell me if I am doing this backports stuff in vain if 'exim' isnt even listed in http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/woody/ |
| 00:45.10 | dondelelcaro | baz: ^^^^^^^^^ |
| 00:45.23 | baz | dondelelcaro: let me install a web browser... |
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| 00:46.41 | dondelelcaro | timzter: you were the one who claimed it was. I have no clue what packages backports.org has on it. |
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| 00:46.50 | opti | dondelelcaro: any ideas on how to get dmesg to recognize the camera? |
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| 00:46.55 | dondelelcaro | timzter: search apt-get.org if you don't know which backports archive have what packages. |
| 00:47.01 | bdunn | Grrr... help. PLEASE help. I have Samba setup with share security - VERY BASIC. Let's anyone in. There is only one workstation that cannot do a \\10.10.10.1 and see all the shares. It's Permission Denied. ALL computers are running XP. Any ideas? (there is no one alive in #samba) |
| 00:47.09 | timzter | dondelelcaro: if I go to packages.debian.org, it DOES show that exim4 is available in 'testing' |
| 00:47.11 | dondelelcaro | opti: if you're not seeing the camera plug and unplug events in dmesg, you haven't loaded usb support. |
| 00:47.22 | dondelelcaro | timzter: it is in testing. It's *NOT IN STABLE* |
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| 00:47.35 | dondelelcaro | timzter: http://apt-get.org/search.php?query=exim4&submit=&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all |
| 00:47.39 | baz | timzter: packages.debian.org != backports |
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| 00:47.54 | opti | dondelelcaro: well, I am seeing this: drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver usbfs |
| 00:47.54 | opti | drivers/usb/core/usb.c: registered new driver hub |
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| 00:47.56 | Inc3pt | I *Really* need help :(...Has anyone ever experienced freezing while booting, with EXT3? |
| 00:48.19 | bdunn | Inc3pt - I never have... sorry. there is no panic? |
| 00:48.42 | Inc3pt | (bdunn): No, sometimes it stops and says "EXT3-Fs: recovery required on read-only FS" |
| 00:48.57 | bdunn | Inc3pt - Completely locked up? |
| 00:49.03 | Inc3pt | yes sir. |
| 00:49.11 | Inc3pt | (bdunn): And PartitionExpert (while im in windows) says that there are "unfinished journal transcations" |
| 00:49.12 | bdunn | Inc3pt - Try a different kernel? |
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| 00:49.51 | huz | hello guys, what's the mess about libxml2 ? |
| 00:49.57 | Inc3pt | is there any way to force it to rewrite the journal or something? (Im not really knowledgeable with ext3) |
| 00:50.04 | huz | apt: libxml2 |
| 00:50.07 | apt | huz: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 00:50.09 | bdunn | Inc3pt - Try to go into single-user mode from GRUB/LILO and then fsck. |
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| 00:50.17 | dondelelcaro | huz: which mess? |
| 00:50.44 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 236546 |
| 00:50.48 | dpkg | DONE:#236546:G[libxml2] libxml2: Install Problem: Trying to overwrite file owned by a different package |
| 00:50.56 | Inc3pt | (bdunn): Ive done that. I have to force it because it says its clean (Yes, I unmounted before)...and then it says "inode (long number) has non-zero size, Fix?" and I say Yes, and it freezes then. |
| 00:50.57 | z|bandito | interesting. it would appear my intentionally open wireless network has been discovered by someone, possibly with an infected machine that takes all available IP in the subnet... I can't get my powerbook online via 802.11b I have the MAC address of the offending device that is bound to multiple IP. Any suggestions on tracking down who or what it is, what it's doing, or where they are? |
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| 00:51.05 | alexscott | hello |
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| 00:51.21 | bsims | WTF why is mplayer-k6 a depend of mplayer-k7? |
| 00:51.23 | dondelelcaro | z|bandito: so just exclude that device from the network... |
| 00:51.28 | bdunn | Inc3pt - Sorry - that's beyond me. Goodl luck. (You might try over at #gentoo) |
| 00:51.52 | dondelelcaro | !+info mplayer-k7 |
| 00:51.53 | dpkg | Package 'mplayer-k7' does not exist. |
| 00:51.58 | z|bandito | yeah i guess that's all i can do right? i'd kinda like to use my homemade satellite dish and triangulate them ;) |
| 00:52.07 | dondelelcaro | bsims: that package isn't in debian. Try again? |
| 00:52.08 | Sinistrad | bsims, you'll note that mplayer-k? are probably not part of the official debian distribution... stop using third-party apt sources and you won't have crazy dependency issues :) |
| 00:52.11 | bsims | dondelelcaro: this is an unoficial package from marilat |
| 00:52.23 | dondelelcaro | bsims: go talk to marillat then. |
| 00:52.24 | bsims | snicker yeah yeah yeah |
| 00:52.27 | z|bandito | or see what it's actually doing on the network, aside from just banning it |
| 00:52.27 | baz | bdunn: why #gentoo? |
| 00:52.55 | z|bandito | if it's coming out of my dads PC and it's an unknown worm that is slinging spam or something, i'd kinda like to know |
| 00:53.06 | z|bandito | =\ |
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| 00:53.48 | z|bandito | can i look at the traffic somehow to tell? |
| 00:54.11 | dondelelcaro | z|bandito: possibly. tcpdump might assist you somewhat... |
| 00:54.21 | z|bandito | my dads PC reports a different MAC address than is binding to all these different IP and preventing others from accessing the WAP, but his PC is online |
| 00:54.56 | dondelelcaro | z|bandito: then there's probably something else bound to the WAP. figure out what machines are connnected to the WAP, and disable those that shouldn't be there. |
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| 00:54.59 | z|bandito | is it theoretically possible his ethernet device could surrepticiously be bound to multiple MAC addresses? you can spoof a MAC right? |
| 00:55.13 | dondelelcaro | z|bandito: yes, it's quite possible. It's just rather unusual. |
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| 00:55.41 | z|bandito | yeah, but there are some nasty worms going around atm, i wouldn't count it impossible that he has a new unknown variant :\ |
| 00:55.46 | cavediver | Seems to be a massive gnome-update in unstable... |
| 00:55.57 | z|bandito | what would i do in tcpdump to try and tell? |
| 00:56.02 | baz | 2.6 out yet? |
| 00:56.02 | cavediver | some rumors about 2.6, but that doesnät seem correct |
| 00:56.13 | opti | let's see... Intel motherboards generally use UHCI for USB, correct? |
| 00:56.13 | alexscott | if i have compiled a kernel with one option , could i use a module more recent from this option or must i recompile a new kernel ????\ |
| 00:56.35 | baz | wow, four question marks |
| 00:56.39 | cavediver | baz, not yet. Still on 2.4 after the upgrade. Can't see any change := |
| 00:56.41 | baz | and a backslash |
| 00:56.47 | baz | cavediver: shame |
| 00:57.06 | cavediver | baz, but i think it's gonna be there soon.. |
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| 00:57.16 | cavediver | accoarding to debianplanet.net |
| 00:57.22 | baz | cavediver: hope so, should be good |
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| 00:57.42 | jcurry | what is a debian apt source where I can get mplayer? Configured for gui, etc? |
| 00:57.46 | baz | cavediver: the new file selector looks quite nice too (shock horror) :) |
| 00:57.50 | knoppix | llllllll |
| 00:58.09 | cavediver | Seems like 2.6 was released 2 days ago. Can that explain gnome.org is impossible to reach ? |
| 00:58.28 | baz | cavediver: not an RC? final release? |
| 00:58.35 | jetscreamer | there's some gay internet shit going on |
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| 00:58.53 | cafuego | Hmm, there's a single winmodem driver in the kernel, isn't there? |
| 00:58.58 | cavediver | baz, i think so yes |
| 00:59.00 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: I thought so... |
| 00:59.03 | jetscreamer | anybody else have problems with ping and such? |
| 00:59.06 | dondelelcaro | jetscreamer: ? |
| 00:59.15 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: happen to know the module name? is it mwave.o? |
| 00:59.30 | jetscreamer | outside of my isp's domain, my ping goes up by 600-1000 |
| 00:59.53 | baz | jetscreamer: "gay internet shit", cool |
| 00:59.54 | jcurry | gnome.org is down, it has been taken down because of an intrusion |
| 00:59.56 | cafuego | jetscreamer: Your ISP has a 56K modem upstream link? |
| 01:00.01 | jcurry | read /. |
| 01:00.05 | alexscott | :) |
| 01:00.06 | cavediver | jcurry, really ? |
| 01:00.06 | jetscreamer | cafuego: today it seems so |
| 01:00.14 | baz | jetscreamer: internet has been slow all week for me, from home and work. thought it was just me |
| 01:00.40 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: yeah, that's it. |
| 01:00.46 | jetscreamer | 8 minutes to d/l the package list is not right |
| 01:00.48 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: Ok, shit 9didn't work) |
| 01:00.54 | jetscreamer | apt-get update |
| 01:01.02 | alexscott | :) |
| 01:01.11 | alexscott | change ISP |
| 01:01.18 | idnarhtim | jetscreamer: that all depends on your internet connection :P |
| 01:01.49 | jcurry | cavediver, really |
| 01:01.50 | jetscreamer | is usually good @ 164/kbs |
| 01:01.50 | jcurry | slashdot.org |
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| 01:01.50 | jetscreamer | so it's not me or them probably |
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| 01:01.50 | simonrvn | there's some weird shit going on with the 'net |
| 01:01.50 | jcurry | they took down art, ftp |
| 01:02.04 | baz | simonrvn: you too? |
| 01:02.07 | opti | hmm, it still can't see the camera, and I don't know why. I'm kinda stumped, it's showing in dmesg (though without any specific info beyond the fact that there's a device plugged in" |
| 01:02.10 | opti | ) |
| 01:02.11 | dondelelcaro | jetscreamer: comming in there's only a 20ms jump on your ISP... |
| 01:02.16 | jcurry | what is a debian apt source where I can get mplayer? Configured for gui, etc? |
| 01:02.20 | simonrvn | some sites take forever to load, and i have a pretty phat pipe |
| 01:02.24 | jetscreamer | huh |
| 01:02.25 | baz | opti: it's seeing your camera, not just the hub? |
| 01:02.27 | dondelelcaro | jetscreamer: although, this router is fucked: core1-p4-0.crrvca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.243.230) 95.594 ms 154.320 ms 221.813 ms |
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| 01:02.32 | simonrvn | 3.5 Mb down |
| 01:02.41 | baz | simonrvn: you're in the uk too right |
| 01:02.45 | jetscreamer | yeah i noticed that one |
| 01:02.45 | simonrvn | no |
| 01:02.48 | simonrvn | .ca |
| 01:02.53 | recall | Trying to compile winex, and I recieve several errors and warnings, ending with "lex.ppl.c:15102: warning: `yyunput' defined but not used". I read this an issue with flex, has anyone had a similar problem? |
| 01:02.56 | opti | baz: I'm getting "hub 1-0:1.0: new USB device on port 2, assigned address 3 |
| 01:02.56 | opti | " |
| 01:03.03 | alexscott | if i load a newer module that an option that i have checked in my kernel |
| 01:03.10 | dondelelcaro | jcurry: there are only unofficial sources. |
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| 01:03.17 | alexscott | it is the newer module that it's use ??? |
| 01:03.18 | dondelelcaro | jcurry: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 01:03.24 | idnarhtim | recall: you probably need to install flex-old |
| 01:03.54 | CanadaMan | Hey people... what do I pass to my command to execute each piped in line. Basically... I have something like grep blahblahblah | awk yaddayaddayadda | xargs <FILLTHISIN> - what I want is... to execute, on the bash command line, each such line that awk outputs. |
| 01:03.55 | dondelelcaro | alexscott: meh? you can't have both a module loaded, and something built in to the kernel. It doesn't work that way. |
| 01:03.55 | jetscreamer | a good mplayer source deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main |
| 01:04.00 | alexscott | thx dondelelcaro |
| 01:04.12 | recall | idnarhtim: Yes, I saw that recommendation. Is this required? Seems rather odd. |
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| 01:04.43 | cafuego | recall: compiling winex? Why don't you just install the deb? |
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| 01:04.53 | raged44 | darn the guy I was talkig to left |
| 01:05.07 | raged44 | that sucks cuase I fixed that on my own |
| 01:05.41 | jetscreamer | 10.6 kb/s :/ |
| 01:05.47 | idnarhtim | recall: the 'flex' package contains the new version of flex which behaves quite differently in some respects; thus code written for the older versions won't always work |
| 01:06.03 | jetscreamer | and popcorn and war&peace |
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| 01:06.27 | recall | cafuego, in the non-free section I suppose? Well, i've thought that winex was a really fast developer, so...hrm. |
| 01:06.41 | idnarhtim | cafuego: debs are only available to paying subscribers... |
| 01:06.52 | piotrooo | hello, how can i refresh list of installed packets in my system in dselect? |
| 01:06.57 | idnarhtim | cafuego: (unless there are unofficial debs that I'm unaware of) |
| 01:07.09 | recall | Ah, yes...I believe he's right =) |
| 01:07.13 | helix | piotrooo: updatedb |
| 01:07.16 | dondelelcaro | helix: heh. I keep getting reminded of why perl gets a bad name... *shudder* |
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| 01:07.23 | jetscreamer | piotrooo: option 1 |
| 01:07.43 | jetscreamer | but it "just knows" what's already installed |
| 01:07.50 | jetscreamer | exit & restart works |
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| 01:08.03 | helix | dondelelcaro: i thought you were like, a perl king |
| 01:08.09 | jetscreamer | dpkg -L or l |
| 01:08.09 | dpkg | ii or l 3.5-5 jetscreamer's private porn collection |
| 01:08.17 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 01:08.43 | piotrooo | my system doesn't know :) |
| 01:08.44 | Vladkao | haha |
| 01:09.06 | jetscreamer | dpkg -l will give you a list |
| 01:09.07 | dpkg | ii will give you a list 1.9-4.1 jetscreamer's private stamp collection |
| 01:09.12 | helix | haha |
| 01:09.15 | helix | jetscreamer: stoppppppppp |
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| 01:09.28 | jetscreamer | !botsnack |
| 01:09.28 | dpkg | :), jetscreamer |
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| 01:09.39 | jetscreamer | dpkg, botsnack |
| 01:09.40 | dpkg | aw, gee, jetscreamer |
| 01:09.53 | cafuego | idnarhtim: So? it's not like it's expensive. |
| 01:09.57 | jetscreamer | dang my ping |
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| 01:10.06 | dondelelcaro | helix: I'm decent... but some of these projects are just really, really scary... |
| 01:10.36 | helix | i need some perl to scare cron into submission |
| 01:10.42 | helix | @lart cron for spamming |
| 01:10.48 | raged44 | okay I have to re mount hda3 to mnt/hda3 every time I start |
| 01:10.56 | helix | raged44: man fstab |
| 01:10.57 | rahevia | hi... does any one knows how can i run a dual boot (debian + win xp) with grub, given that the partition in wich win lies is an extended partition using NTFS? |
| 01:11.00 | raged44 | What line do I add to fstab |
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| 01:11.09 | cafuego | helix: perl -e 'system("/bin/rm -rf /var/spool/cron")' |
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| 01:11.16 | rahevia | i've searched on google but i haven't got any clues |
| 01:11.19 | helix | cafuego: haha |
| 01:11.21 | piotrooo | i made one mistake, and my dselect want to remove about 100 packets which i need, and i want to refresh list of packets installed in system to manually remove one of theme, how to do this? |
| 01:11.28 | raged44 | /dev/hda3 on /mnt/hda3 type ext3 (rw) ? |
| 01:11.32 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:11.35 | helix | cafuego: that can't be perl.. i can read it |
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| 01:11.43 | Megrim | drat. lilo still defaults to linux-enterprise. i got pwned |
| 01:11.44 | helix | raged44: yeah, except don't use reiserfs |
| 01:11.44 | jetscreamer | or ext3 |
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| 01:11.54 | cafuego | helix: i don't have my obfuscator enabled. |
| 01:12.10 | cafuego | helix: undoubtedly it can be rewritten as a 50-char hex string :-) |
| 01:12.13 | jetscreamer | ahhhh |
| 01:12.23 | helix | cafuego: by all means fix it - you're giving perl a good name.. |
| 01:12.23 | jetscreamer | piotrooo: shift R |
| 01:12.36 | piotrooo | oki i'll try... thx |
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| 01:12.41 | Megrim | whatever lilo defaults to, the cursor should be highlighted for, right? |
| 01:12.41 | raged44 | helix you mena the line I typed or the one you did? |
| 01:12.47 | Vladkao | Megrim: what about *editing* /etc/lilo.conf ? |
| 01:12.53 | helix | raged44: i mean the one jetscreamer typed |
| 01:12.56 | opti | I'm looking at instructions on adding a usbdevfs entry to /etc/fstab to get something showing in /proc/bus/usb, is that the correct way to go about things? |
| 01:13.03 | Megrim | default="windows2" |
| 01:13.13 | jetscreamer | /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3 ext3 defaults 0 2 |
| 01:13.17 | jetscreamer | that |
| 01:13.28 | opti | or does hotplug take care of that? |
| 01:13.42 | jetscreamer | yes Megrim |
| 01:13.57 | Megrim | well its edited to that |
| 01:14.07 | menteco | when I play MIDI files with KMid I get no output from the left channel. I have a Soundblaster and use awesfx to load soundfont. What could be the problem? |
| 01:14.18 | simonrvn | dpkg -i |
| 01:14.18 | dpkg | simonrvn: bugger all, i dunno |
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| 01:14.21 | jetscreamer | usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 0 |
| 01:14.25 | simonrvn | damn |
| 01:14.48 | jetscreamer | ah shit now my screen is borking |
| 01:14.51 | jetscreamer | :( |
| 01:14.59 | jetscreamer | payday, come on payday |
| 01:15.01 | alexscott | menteco and you haven-t any problem with other type of sound ??? |
| 01:15.48 | Megrim | ah, do i have to execute lilo after i change lilo.conf? |
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| 01:15.52 | jetscreamer | my screen is blue and gammatized |
| 01:15.53 | simonrvn | yes |
| 01:15.56 | menteco | alexscott: nop, mp3s sounds stereo. that's strange. I have use sfxtest c 64 to set panning to center but didn't work. |
| 01:16.02 | Vladkao | Megrim: sure |
| 01:16.04 | gb | jetscreamer: payday? |
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| 01:16.11 | Megrim | that would be the step i missed, then |
| 01:16.13 | Stereo | menteco: you mean they soun like me? |
| 01:16.20 | Stereo | +d |
| 01:16.34 | raged44 | /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 0 1 |
| 01:16.34 | raged44 | /dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0 |
| 01:16.34 | raged44 | /dev/hda3 / ext3 defaults 0 2 |
| 01:16.34 | raged44 | proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 |
| 01:16.34 | raged44 | /dev/fd0 /mnt/auto/floppy auto defaults,user,noauto,showexec,umask=022 0 0 |
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| 01:16.38 | Megrim | now i'll try. be right back |
| 01:16.44 | simonrvn | ... |
| 01:16.59 | gb | arrgh darn flufuhz |
| 01:17.00 | Stereo | ha, eejot. It says #flood right in the topic |
| 01:17.33 | gb | can't fit it all in the topic :P |
| 01:17.47 | simonrvn | most newbies don't read the topic, unless they have irc experience |
| 01:17.51 | opti | I'm a bit confused here. What should I consult for usb config in Debian? I'm looking at a guide for getting a digicam to work but it seems to be outdated; it mentions /etc/usb.permissions but that file doesn't exist. |
| 01:18.07 | guestish | does anyone know how to generate a modeline to make it so my monitor operates at 1024x768 at optimal sync without me having to fudge and simply remove 1280x1024? i tried modelines but for some reason it would snap back to 1280x1024 even though i specified 1024x768 |
| 01:18.11 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 01:18.15 | guestish | i generated the modeline using videogen |
| 01:18.18 | jetscreamer | /dev/hda3 is borked |
| 01:18.29 | pem3v78 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.37 | pem3v78 | what does defunct mean ? |
| 01:18.41 | guestish | !tell opti about hotplug |
| 01:18.52 | simonrvn | dead as a doornail |
| 01:18.55 | gb | jetscreamer: well stop borking it |
| 01:18.59 | guestish | opti: that help at all? |
| 01:19.16 | opti | guestish: the website may, lemme see |
| 01:19.16 | jetscreamer | /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3 ext3 defaults 0 2 i meant his fstab |
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| 01:19.30 | guestish | dang it, why cant anyone help me! |
| 01:19.34 | zarchne | pem3v78: its parent hasn't reaped it yet |
| 01:19.48 | sparr | am i the only one who finds the right-click behavior in most pagers to be pretty useless? |
| 01:19.53 | opti | guestish: so I should remove the usbdevfs stuff from /etc/fstab? |
| 01:19.53 | gb | guestish: you waqnt the short or long list? |
| 01:20.02 | simonrvn | guestish: so dup the line, and remove the 1280 |
| 01:20.05 | pem3v78 | reaped ? |
| 01:20.32 | simonrvn | guestish: and comment the old one out |
| 01:20.42 | guestish | guestish: i just removed the 1280 completely so X thinks the max it can go is 1024x768... |
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| 01:21.01 | guestish | guestish: i was thinking i could just use a modeline to so that it thinks it can go higher, but doesnt |
| 01:21.09 | guestish | simonrvn: i just removed the 1280 completely so X thinks the max it can go is 1024x768... |
| 01:21.12 | gb | oh no now he's talking to himself :) |
| 01:21.12 | zarchne | pem3v78: yeah. the kernel holds a process table entry with the exit status until the parent wait()s for it |
| 01:21.19 | guestish | simonrvn: i was thinking i could just use a modeline to so that it thinks it can go higher, but doesnt |
| 01:21.23 | guestish | gb: =P |
| 01:21.43 | guestish | !tell gb about trolling |
| 01:22.02 | simonrvn | guestish: what's the point of that? |
| 01:22.04 | guestish | opti: dunno |
| 01:22.08 | gb | oh are you trolling guestish, oops, sorry :) |
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| 01:22.50 | guestish | simonrvn: meh, ur right, just seems kinda quick fixish |
| 01:23.00 | guestish | opti: honestly i've never really used USB on linux |
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| 01:23.08 | simonrvn | what make extra work for yourself :) |
| 01:23.12 | guestish | heh |
| 01:23.16 | jetscreamer | 9139B/s :/ |
| 01:23.31 | guestish | gb: go outside and get some fresh air, you have been inside too long |
| 01:23.38 | guestish | ;) |
| 01:23.54 | simonrvn | s/what/why/ |
| 01:23.55 | gb | fresh air outside? |
| 01:24.07 | gb | you are kidding right? |
| 01:24.08 | zezom | what app can I use to format my linux partition? in ext3 hopefully and I need to do my swap one too |
| 01:24.21 | guestish | !tell zezom about parted |
| 01:24.28 | guestish | !tell zezom about cfdisk |
| 01:24.31 | caphuso | zezom: mke2fs, mkswap |
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| 01:24.44 | zarchne | pem3v78: try "ps f" |
| 01:24.58 | guestish | zezom: i prefer cfdisk, but i've heard parted is good also |
| 01:25.05 | guestish | zezom: cfdisk should be installed already |
| 01:26.12 | menteco | Anyone is using a soundblaster live! I have a problem with MIDI output. |
| 01:26.38 | guestish | i am |
| 01:26.42 | guestish | u usin alsa? |
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| 01:26.52 | menteco | I use alsa yes |
| 01:26.56 | zezom | thanks guestish caphuso |
| 01:27.08 | guestish | np |
| 01:27.15 | zezom | cfdisk only creats the partitions dosn't it? it dosn't actually format them does it? |
| 01:27.18 | chipzz | anyone mind a quick perl question? |
| 01:27.31 | guestish | zezom: oh yeah, sorry |
| 01:27.33 | guestish | zezom: heh |
| 01:27.34 | chipzz | what's the syntax again for reading all lines of a file into an array at once? |
| 01:27.43 | joaocarlos | anyone knows how to change the IRQ of ethernet card intel pro 100 from linux? |
| 01:27.48 | caphuso | chipzz: no, but we don't mind stupid meta questions |
| 01:27.54 | guestish | menteco: just midi? |
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| 01:28.00 | guestish | menteco: audio is fine? |
| 01:28.00 | chipzz | yeye :) |
| 01:28.12 | menteco | guestish: yes just midi. audio (mp3) is fine. |
| 01:28.23 | zezom | guestish: that's ok I'm going to use mkswap and mke2fs |
| 01:28.30 | caphuso | chipzz: @foo=<> |
| 01:28.30 | chipzz | so anyway, anyone got any idea? |
| 01:28.37 | caphuso | ; |
| 01:28.40 | guestish | zezom: yeah, those work ;) |
| 01:28.46 | chipzz | hmmm that's what I thought |
| 01:28.47 | guestish | zezom: or parted, heh |
| 01:28.56 | guestish | menteco: no idea, sorry. |
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| 01:29.09 | zezom | :) |
| 01:29.18 | guestish | menteco: maybe you needto upgrade kernels? i really have no idea |
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| 01:29.21 | inc3pt | If anyone was in here when I said deb was freezing while booting, theres a further question now, I can boot into 2.4.25 just fine...Can anyone think of an option that I left out of 2.6 that would cause it to freeze while booting? |
| 01:29.22 | guestish | zezom: =D |
| 01:29.30 | zezom | does mke2fs do ext3 by default or do I have to convert it from ext2 into ext3 still? |
| 01:29.45 | guestish | zezom: man mke2fs |
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| 01:30.20 | caphuso | chipzz: find help somewhere else, i don't like helping people who think that they are too special to follow the channel rules |
| 01:30.22 | rhevia | does any one knows how to specify a filesystem to a partition to be used to boot win xp in grub??? i've searched throw the manual pages and google and i've haven't found out how to do it :'( |
| 01:30.26 | guestish | zezom: when in doubt :) |
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| 01:30.39 | guestish | rhevia: say again? |
| 01:30.50 | guestish | rhevia: you want to know how to boot winxp in grub? |
| 01:30.57 | rhevia | yes |
| 01:31.00 | caphuso | chipzz: fucking stop /msg'ing me |
| 01:31.04 | rhevia | but i have a bigger problem actually |
| 01:31.17 | rhevia | my win xp is in an extended NTFS partition |
| 01:31.20 | rhevia | :-S |
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| 01:31.32 | guestish | rhevia: whats wrong w/ ntfs? |
| 01:31.58 | guestish | rhevia: http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=539 |
| 01:32.03 | gb | guestish: ey? you ask such a question in #debian? |
| 01:32.03 | rhevia | when i try to boot in win xp i get an error telling that the filesystem type is unknown |
| 01:32.32 | guestish | rhevia: winxp doesnt reconize its filesystem??? |
| 01:32.37 | guestish | rhevia: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ |
| 01:32.39 | zezom | guestish: heh, true I'm just being lasy now :p |
| 01:32.40 | gb | oops obviously still trolling sorry |
| 01:32.51 | zezom | guestish: it was mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdax |
| 01:32.53 | guestish | gb: exactly |
| 01:33.03 | guestish | zezom: ;), or just add a -j to the end |
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| 01:33.31 | gb | guestish: I never took you to be troll |
| 01:33.33 | guestish | rhevia: or grub doesnt? |
| 01:33.35 | rhevia | actually i can't tell exactly what the problem is, as i'm helping a friend, it seems to me that grub doesn't recognize NTFS in an Extended partition to boot from it |
| 01:33.44 | guestish | gb: well you are a troll |
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| 01:33.54 | rhevia | i'm pretty sure it is grub |
| 01:33.55 | gb | guestish: am not :P |
| 01:33.57 | guestish | rhevia: then use lilo, i use it fine |
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| 01:34.32 | guestish | rhevia: i prefer grub also, but what doesnt work doesnt work |
| 01:34.35 | rhevia | i' know, but when i installed lilo y got a kernel panic |
| 01:34.44 | guestish | rhevia: well thats a problem |
| 01:34.49 | rhevia | because it didn't found the root partition |
| 01:34.57 | gb | don't you love the kernel oops? |
| 01:34.57 | rhevia | and i specified it clearly |
| 01:34.58 | guestish | rhevia: you must have a odd installation sceme |
| 01:35.01 | rhevia | :-S |
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| 01:35.08 | alexscott | re |
| 01:35.17 | alexscott | i don't understand |
| 01:35.18 | rhevia | shure... win xp is installed in an extended partition!!! |
| 01:35.25 | alexscott | i have recompile my kernel |
| 01:35.28 | guestish | rhevia: is that even possible? |
| 01:35.29 | alexscott | DRM is good |
| 01:35.37 | guestish | rhevia: i thought it has to be a primary partition |
| 01:35.49 | rhevia | the guy that installed it didn't know what he was doing |
| 01:35.53 | alexscott | and in the XFree86.log i see : (II) RADEON(0): [DRI] installation complete |
| 01:36.03 | guestish | rhevia: well, time to learn how to reinstall windows xp :) |
| 01:36.04 | alexscott | but direct rendering: No |
| 01:36.04 | rhevia | i thougth the same untill yestarday |
| 01:36.10 | alexscott | in the glxinfo |
| 01:36.12 | alexscott | why ??? |
| 01:36.15 | rhevia | i thougth about it also |
| 01:36.18 | guestish | rhevia: to recover your data go onto another computer and make a windows boot disk |
| 01:36.27 | guestish | rhevia: you can use that until its reinstalled |
| 01:36.37 | guestish | rhevia: finding one should be easy |
| 01:36.45 | gb | don't want to start a fs war, but does anyone here currently use xfs & how do they find it functions after an outage? |
| 01:37.12 | alexscott | someone have an idea ??? |
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| 01:37.39 | rhevia | guestish: i don't really care much, because in the partition where i have windows i don't have anything important, and i have knoppix for an emergency |
| 01:37.49 | joaocarlos | anyone knows how to change the IRQ of ethernet card intel pro 100 from linux? |
| 01:37.58 | guestish | rhevia: you can have up to 4 primary partitons, just reformat and reinstall windows |
| 01:37.59 | noflash | ~/cl |
| 01:38.11 | rhevia | i think i'll do that |
| 01:38.17 | rhevia | thanks a lot ;-) |
| 01:38.29 | Justin | joaocarlos: uh, isn't that a pci card? |
| 01:38.34 | chipzz | caphuso: you know, getting rid of me will be that much faster if you're abusive back to me in pvt instead of on the channel which I'm obviously not reading when I'm pmming you |
| 01:38.43 | guestish | :) |
| 01:38.45 | chipzz | but nm |
| 01:39.02 | joaocarlos | Justin, Yes a PCI card a intel pro 100 |
| 01:39.16 | Justin | joaocarlos: then you don't change the irq |
| 01:39.47 | joaocarlos | Justin, I have 2 cards and they both have same IRQ |
| 01:40.11 | Vladkao | joaocarlos: use the bios |
| 01:40.52 | guestish | np |
| 01:40.56 | Justin | joaocarlos: so? |
| 01:41.27 | opti | ok, I've got hotplugging working, I'm just a bit confused now as to how to get my camera working for non-root users. |
| 01:41.56 | guestish | opti: cool, well thats a file permission problem |
| 01:42.01 | joaocarlos | Vladkao, on bios? or boot from a dos disk and use manufac program? |
| 01:42.25 | opti | guestish: isn't the file dynamically created and destroyed though? |
| 01:42.41 | guestish | opti: dunno, heh, like i said never used USB |
| 01:42.52 | opti | guestish: ok |
| 01:42.57 | Vladkao | joaocarlos: if you have that program, use it. otherwise, use the PCs BIOS and reassign IRQs. but i don't see the need. if it is PCI... |
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| 01:43.07 | Justin | joaocarlos: which part of "then you don't change the irq" don't you understand? |
| 01:43.37 | guestish | Justin: hey, you finally got a nick w/o the _, congrats |
| 01:43.55 | Justin | :) |
| 01:43.58 | guestish | ;) |
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| 01:44.53 | alexscott | (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. |
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| 01:45.01 | alexscott | what's RAC |
| 01:45.12 | alexscott | (from the XFree86.log) |
| 01:45.13 | joaocarlos | Justin, so I dont change... what do I do ? |
| 01:45.31 | opti | I forget the command to reconfigure a package... |
| 01:45.34 | Justin | joaocarlos: nothing |
| 01:45.39 | guestish | opti: dpkg-reconfigure |
| 01:45.46 | opti | oh, right, thanks |
| 01:46.15 | guestish | ;) |
| 01:46.33 | joaocarlos | Justin, lol... so I drop it on garbage? |
| 01:46.52 | opti | hmm, it's not very extensive for hotplug |
| 01:47.10 | Justin | joaocarlos: ? |
| 01:47.53 | opti | I see nothing about permissions in the hotplug man file... |
| 01:49.03 | Justin | opti: /usr/share/doc/libgphoto2-2 |
| 01:49.33 | resist148 | hey guys, i was attempting to upgrade my kernel to 2.6(yes I have recompiled kernels before), and my 3com network card won't work now, when i try to ping something it says that there could be a possible IRQ conflict, it's working fine in 2.4 right now, anyone have any ideas what could be causing this? |
| 01:50.34 | opti | Justin: don't see anything about it in the README there, and this seems to be a hotplug issue anyway. |
| 01:51.20 | Justin | (%:/usr/share/doc/libgphoto2-2)- ls |
| 01:51.20 | Justin | AUTHORS CHANGES.gz NEWS.gz README.Debian README.gz changelog.Debian.gz changelog.gz copyright linux-hotplug/ |
| 01:51.23 | Justin | gee |
| 01:51.29 | Tweak22 | does anybody here know how to do software raid 1? |
| 01:51.38 | Justin | Tweak22: i do :-P |
| 01:51.49 | |stefan| | in 2.6.3 . is there anything special with the ppp module ? pptpd won't load it ... |
| 01:52.08 | Tweak22 | Justin do you mind if I ask you some questions? |
| 01:52.15 | Tweak22 | or do you want me to private message you? |
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| 01:52.43 | Justin | Tweak22: use mdadm. |
| 01:52.50 | Justin | takes 30 seconds to setup raid1 |
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| 01:53.21 | guestish | do software raids take up a ton of cpu power? |
| 01:53.23 | opti | Justin: oh, didn't see the linux-hotplug dir |
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| 01:54.42 | chimun | what package can give me fsck.hfsplus? i've searched the site, no luck |
| 01:54.44 | guestish | Justin: do they? |
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| 01:55.22 | guestish | chimun: isnt hfs apple? |
| 01:55.56 | guestish | chimun: im pretty sure fsck is a linux tool, and hfs is apple's format |
| 01:55.59 | zignig | guestish: hideous file system. |
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| 01:56.11 | guestish | or at least a tool for unix variants |
| 01:56.14 | garung | yo |
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| 01:56.33 | garung | E: Package gdesklets has no installation candidate << how do i fix this |
| 01:56.48 | garung | i try to install gdesklets |
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| 01:57.29 | chimun | guestish yes it is apple. linux kernel supports it though and im being asked to run fsck.hfsplus before mounting |
| 01:58.20 | guestish | chimun: weird |
| 01:58.29 | guestish | chimun: fsck usually only runs on the root filesystem |
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| 01:58.53 | guestish | chimun: and i dont see why any sane person would make their root partition hfs |
| 01:59.00 | guestish | chimun: that just doesnt make any sense |
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| 01:59.41 | Justin | chimun: i wouldn't try to fix an hfsplus drive in linux |
| 02:00.08 | guestish | chimun: use some apple tools instead, its their filesystem |
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| 02:01.51 | alexscott | the fglrx module must to be launch for direct rendering ??? |
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| 02:02.32 | guestish | heh...i guess he installed debian on a hfs partition |
| 02:02.46 | guestish | wonder why he'd do a thing like that |
| 02:03.02 | magnesium | I just acquired a sparcstation4 but I know nothing about sun hardware... does this use sun4u or sun4cdm? |
| 02:03.41 | guestish | !tell garnug about pm |
| 02:03.50 | chipzz | magnesium: why would you buy a sparcstation when you don't know anything about it? |
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| 02:03.58 | magnesium | chipzz: I didn't buy it |
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| 02:04.06 | alexscott | no i make confusion sorry :\ |
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| 02:04.28 | alexscott | someone know the dri-trunk install ??? |
| 02:04.32 | Vladkao | magnesium: why not ask google? |
| 02:04.49 | guestish | garnug: what is the problem? |
| 02:04.55 | magnesium | Vladkao: I tried, it seems I'm not searching for the right info |
| 02:05.17 | guestish | garung: what is the problem? |
| 02:05.32 | Vladkao | magnesium: look at the label on your hardware and enter it |
| 02:05.44 | Candover | magnesium: also try #sparc, they'll presumably know this stuff better |
| 02:05.47 | garung | can you apt-get gdesklets guestish? |
| 02:05.54 | garung | i don't know why i got this error |
| 02:05.57 | garung | E: Package gdesklets has no installation candidate |
| 02:06.02 | resist148 | my computer with a VIA chipset is hanging when i startx with 2.6 and nvidia 5336, anyone know why this could be? |
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| 02:06.19 | guestish | garung: that means that the repositories you are searching in do not have that package |
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| 02:07.00 | guestish | !find gdesklets |
| 02:07.02 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'gdesklets' (2 shown): gdesklets ;; gdesklets-data. |
| 02:07.02 | Cr0n0s | does algem have a clue when leaves a bug in the kernel the woody updated he.. with apt-get dit-upgrade it does solve? |
| 02:07.18 | guestish | garung: gdesklets is only in testing or unstable, not stable |
| 02:07.21 | garung | i could apt-get gdesklets before |
| 02:07.25 | garung | but i don't know what is wrong |
| 02:07.34 | guestish | garung: what branch are you in? |
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| 02:07.50 | garung | sid |
| 02:07.56 | guestish | obviously not |
| 02:08.01 | guestish | have you updated recently? |
| 02:08.09 | garung | yeah |
| 02:08.11 | garung | i did |
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| 02:08.49 | guestish | garung: what repositories are you using? |
| 02:08.59 | garung | i don't know |
| 02:09.02 | garung | how do i tell |
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| 02:09.20 | jetscreamer | well sombody borked discover eh |
| 02:09.22 | jetscreamer | less /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 02:09.24 | jetscreamer | garung |
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| 02:09.48 | garung | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib |
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| 02:09.53 | jetscreamer | more |
| 02:10.01 | alexscott | more or less ??? |
| 02:10.04 | guestish | garung: you need a deb one too |
| 02:10.04 | alexscott | :) |
| 02:10.06 | jetscreamer | need a deb |
| 02:10.14 | garung | oh |
| 02:10.15 | jetscreamer | what he said |
| 02:10.18 | guestish | :) |
| 02:10.21 | garung | i have only one in there |
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| 02:10.29 | guestish | garung: you or someone else borked your apt config file |
| 02:10.31 | garung | only that one |
| 02:10.31 | jetscreamer | copy it and take out the -src |
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| 02:10.56 | garung | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib |
| 02:10.56 | carrett | which kernel does the unofficial sid install cd use? |
| 02:10.56 | garung | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib |
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| 02:11.03 | garung | this that correct? |
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| 02:11.20 | guestish | garung: should be |
| 02:11.30 | guestish | garung: if you dont know even how to use apt, you should not be in sid |
| 02:11.37 | jetscreamer | # deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib |
| 02:11.37 | jetscreamer | # deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib |
| 02:11.43 | jetscreamer | take out the # |
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| 02:12.36 | jetscreamer | unstable/sid doesn't matter |
| 02:12.43 | jetscreamer | either/or |
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| 02:13.04 | garung | oh yeah! it worked, thanks guestish, jetscreamer! :) |
| 02:13.13 | jetscreamer | thank him not me |
| 02:13.14 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 02:13.20 | garung | yup |
| 02:13.21 | garung | hehee |
| 02:13.45 | guestish | ur line ;) |
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| 02:13.52 | guestish | we're glad to help |
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| 02:14.31 | guestish | but in all seriousness, you should do some reading before using sid |
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| 02:14.51 | garung | ok |
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| 02:15.18 | nullvoid | winbindd -> I got dual boot, when I join domain with my WinXP, I can't Join with Linux and this is vice versa, I need to rejoin each time I change my boot OS, how can I resolve this? |
| 02:15.26 | carrett | which kernel does the unofficial sid install cd use? |
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| 02:16.02 | nullvoid | carrett: do sid have install cd ? |
| 02:16.11 | carrett | nullvoid: it's onofficial |
| 02:16.20 | carrett | unofficial |
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| 02:16.26 | resist148 | carrett: i wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole... |
| 02:16.27 | nullvoid | carrett: where's the uri |
| 02:16.59 | carrett | resist148: for some reason my 8139too card that worked with the exact same cd isn't working anymore... |
| 02:17.00 | resist148 | carrett: why not install stable and then dist-upgrade to sid? |
| 02:17.01 | nullvoid | carrett: use woody and mod the source.list then just upgrade it |
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| 02:17.20 | phildar60 | Hello |
| 02:17.21 | carrett | resist148: that's why....i can't set up networking |
| 02:17.30 | nullvoid | carrett: I also use 8139too with no problem |
| 02:17.35 | carrett | resist148: i think it's the kernel version because the gentoo livecd works fine |
| 02:17.50 | ganymed | Hi all. Does anybody know if you can tile windows automatically in the blackbox wm? Is there any patch or so, making blackbox able to this? |
| 02:17.56 | phildar60 | what do you think about a distribution who permit to change esyly the version :) |
| 02:18.05 | resist148 | carrett: does knoppix work with it? you could always install from knoppix... |
| 02:18.11 | nullvoid | carrett: one of my box use standard kernel bf24 and works well for my 8139too |
| 02:18.15 | carrett | no |
| 02:18.19 | alexscott | me for my network card i must have a kernel minor as 2.4.20 |
| 02:18.26 | phildar60 | like debian but easy to use |
| 02:18.32 | alexscott | newer as...... |
| 02:18.53 | phildar60 | like a mandrake but stable like debian |
| 02:18.54 | resist148 | phildar60: i think debian is easy to use |
| 02:19.00 | phildar60 | noo |
| 02:19.02 | alexscott | it's a false realtek too |
| 02:19.13 | phildar60 | with debian i havent dolby sound |
| 02:19.23 | somiaj | ganymed: you might ask in a blackbox chan if there is one, or check the doc on blackbox, only suggestion I can think of...(: |
| 02:19.25 | guestish | phildar60: um...why are you in #debian? try #linux |
| 02:19.26 | phildar60 | and cant acces to my ntfs partition as user |
| 02:19.36 | somiaj | !tell nullvoid about real kernel |
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| 02:19.46 | guestish | phildar60: this is for debian users |
| 02:19.51 | resist148 | phildar60: well learn how to use linux |
| 02:19.58 | phildar60 | an installer who permit to choose a mapping |
| 02:19.59 | alexscott | yess |
| 02:20.01 | guestish | phildar60: their are solutions to that, but first you have to be willing to learn |
| 02:20.08 | nullvoid | somiaj: I don't have problem with kernel, |
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| 02:20.09 | carrett | one time my grandpa caught me masturbating with his back massage mechanism |
| 02:20.19 | bucky | phildar60, LINDOWS |
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| 02:20.31 | alexscott | if you don't like debian you should go out but not says that...... |
| 02:20.35 | somiaj | nullvoid: its not that you have a problem, its just the bf24 kernels suck and should only be used for installing....hence get a 'real kernel'...(: |
| 02:20.42 | carrett | hello? |
| 02:20.44 | phildar60 | the installer get the mappings in the server and display instalaltion methods!!!!! |
| 02:20.46 | Tweak22 | justing you there? |
| 02:20.48 | Tweak22 | Justin |
| 02:20.54 | phildar60 | this is in developpement |
| 02:21.00 | Tweak22 | Justin I do but it says the drive is busy / in use |
| 02:21.02 | bucky | phildar60, or knoppix |
| 02:21.04 | phildar60 | a really good distro |
| 02:21.06 | nullvoid | somiaj: I am happy with it so why should I change, anyway I also got 2.6.4 running well |
| 02:21.10 | ganymed | somiaj: thanks. I already asked in the #blackbox channel, but nobody answered :( |
| 02:21.15 | guestish | phildar60: are you a 2 year old or something? use proper english and correct grammatical structure |
| 02:21.28 | phildar60 | if someone wants to help for this |
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| 02:21.36 | guestish | phildar60: you need to take some initative |
| 02:21.36 | carrett | guestish, one time my grandpa caught me masturbating |
| 02:21.40 | phildar60 | im french |
| 02:21.44 | phildar60 | sorry |
| 02:21.50 | guestish | ah |
| 02:21.51 | phildar60 | i speack better french lol |
| 02:21.51 | guestish | i see |
| 02:21.54 | guestish | yeah |
| 02:21.59 | alexscott | ben phildar60 |
| 02:22.00 | guestish | you know what initative is? |
| 02:22.01 | guestish | :) |
| 02:22.04 | alexscott | keske tu fou la |
| 02:22.16 | phildar60 | so the name of this distro in dev is OCTOZ |
| 02:22.18 | alexscott | si c pour critiker debian tu ferais mieux de partir ca ser a rien |
| 02:22.19 | carrett | one time my grandpa caught me masturbating |
| 02:22.23 | resist148 | phildar60: if you don't want to learn, than debian isn't for you, don't bitch, just leave |
| 02:22.27 | phildar60 | je critique pas |
| 02:22.30 | Candover | Is it Sunday already? |
| 02:22.37 | phildar60 | je dis que il y a une nouvelle distro originale |
| 02:22.40 | guestish | !tell phildar60 about french |
| 02:22.43 | somiaj | !french |
| 02:22.44 | dpkg | Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr - For help in french, please join #debian-fr |
| 02:22.58 | mrphreak | !spanish |
| 02:22.58 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 02:22.59 | bucky | phildar60, so how long have you been using ZOTCO |
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| 02:23.08 | phildar60 | octoz lol |
| 02:23.16 | mrphreak | :) |
| 02:23.18 | guestish | phildar60: join #debian-fr |
| 02:23.32 | phildar60 | they sleep all |
| 02:23.33 | phildar60 | lol |
| 02:23.35 | phildar60 | :) |
| 02:23.39 | phildar60 | so i like debian |
| 02:23.42 | phildar60 | i use it |
| 02:23.46 | bucky | that's what i said.. zotco |
| 02:23.46 | guestish | fun |
| 02:23.56 | phildar60 | but my fstab is good and give me an error |
| 02:23.58 | phildar60 | lol |
| 02:24.00 | phildar60 | just that |
| 02:24.04 | phildar60 | the rest is super |
| 02:24.12 | phildar60 | and i love and 'll keep this ditro |
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| 02:24.38 | guestish | phildar60: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ |
| 02:24.48 | guestish | phildar60: there's the solution to your ntfs problem |
| 02:24.52 | phildar60 | but a distro for beginners who want to have a systeme like debian is good |
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| 02:25.11 | alexscott | pfffffff |
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| 02:25.16 | phildar60 | but as root i can acces |
| 02:25.24 | FieldySnuts | !lart phildar60 |
| 02:25.29 | phildar60 | as root i have my ntfs patition |
| 02:25.44 | raged44 | my mouse has died it just sits in the middle dead |
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| 02:26.03 | phildar60 | so |
| 02:26.10 | SirPsycho | raged44: have you tried cpr ? =) |
| 02:26.15 | guestish | phildar60: that gives write access |
| 02:26.17 | raged44 | CLEAR!!! |
| 02:26.20 | guestish | phildar60: normally you can only read it |
| 02:26.26 | raged44 | ..again |
| 02:26.28 | phildar60 | cool but kernel 2,6 do that?? |
| 02:26.30 | raged44 | CLEAR!!! |
| 02:26.33 | raged44 | ... |
| 02:26.36 | FieldySnuts | !aolify raged44 |
| 02:26.39 | helix | raged44: wtf. shut up |
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| 02:26.44 | guestish | phildar60: write support doesnt work in 2.6 |
| 02:26.46 | FieldySnuts | hi helix |
| 02:26.47 | raged44 | sorry it is dead, note teme |
| 02:26.53 | guestish | phildar60: at least not well |
| 02:26.58 | phildar60 | oki :) |
| 02:27.00 | phildar60 | thanks |
| 02:27.06 | alexscott | it's only experimental phildar60 |
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| 02:27.21 | guestish | phildar60: for surround im sure mplayer supports it |
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| 02:27.34 | guestish | phildar60: www.mplayerhq.hu |
| 02:27.42 | phildar60 | with mandrake i have soud all aroud |
| 02:27.45 | phildar60 | around |
| 02:27.50 | guestish | phildar60: use mplayer |
| 02:27.55 | phildar60 | but with deb i have only 2 speacker |
| 02:28.12 | raged44 | how do I scroll up to look att hoes commands with out a mouise? |
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| 02:29.50 | raged44 | can any one give me those clues again I can't scroll up |
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| 02:30.39 | secher | Are these related? in the X log, I'm getting "Fatal: Error inserting apm (path/to/kernel/module/apm.ko): No such device" and gnome not starting.. holding at the intro screen with the green blood cells. Related? |
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| 02:31.59 | somiaj | --- volticor ping statistics --- |
| 02:32.00 | somiaj | 165 packets transmitted, 90 packets received, 45% packet loss |
| 02:32.00 | somiaj | round-trip min/avg/max = 18.8/55.7/224.9 ms |
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| 02:32.24 | Tweak22 | how can I get a list of everything running (other then top) |
| 02:32.25 | somiaj | sorry about that paste...wrong windows |
| 02:32.33 | FieldySnuts | Tweak22: ps |
| 02:32.49 | FieldySnuts | you'll want some flags like "au" |
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| 02:32.53 | raged44 | so ya um those help with the dead mouse commmands? |
| 02:32.54 | FieldySnuts | man ps for more details, lots of options |
| 02:33.14 | alexscott | re |
| 02:33.21 | Tweak22 | fieldySnuts im tryhing to find all the things my hard drive is doing .. im trying to mirror my drive but it keeps saying its busy. :0( |
| 02:33.44 | Goll | Tweak22 boot to single mode |
| 02:33.47 | Tweak22 | how? |
| 02:33.57 | FieldySnuts | your best bet is to drop to single user mode, which will kill off most programs and drop your networking. |
| 02:34.14 | FieldySnuts | you do that with init 1 . multi user mode, you'd do init 3 when you're done, or maybe init 5 for xdm |
| 02:34.16 | Goll | just reboot at prompt "boot: linux single" |
| 02:34.25 | Goll | or as FieldySnuts said ..... |
| 02:34.27 | FieldySnuts | you can do it that way, but it's not needed. |
| 02:34.48 | FieldySnuts | and I would use rsync to copy, rsync -av --progress /source /destination |
| 02:34.59 | Tweak22 | prompt? I never see a prompt... |
| 02:35.05 | FieldySnuts | if you are copying device files, make it -avD |
| 02:35.10 | Goll | yeah that should the trick |
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| 02:37.06 | Tweak22 | fieldySnuts so it I want to take all files from /dev/sda2 and put it to /dev/sdb2 .. |
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| 02:37.23 | Tweak22 | I go rsync -avD --progress /deb/sda2 /deb/sbd2 ? |
| 02:37.32 | Tweak22 | dev not deb |
| 02:37.48 | Goll | Tweak22 yeah , for more info " man rsync" |
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| 02:38.21 | Candover | Tweak22: copy from and to wherever the devices are mounted, not the device files themselves |
| 02:38.31 | Tweak22 | it says 2 file to consider hehe thats not good huh? |
| 02:38.50 | Tweak22 | candover I want to do all files.. |
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| 02:38.58 | Tweak22 | oh scsi drive one to 2 |
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| 02:39.44 | cminnick | I am trying to install Debian on a box with a 3com 3c905b nic, to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas as to what I should do? |
| 02:39.51 | Candover | Tweak22: yes, but you'll still need to mount the filesystems. The command you wrote will just clobber the /dev/sdb2 device file. |
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| 02:40.35 | somiaj | cminnick: do you have the netinstall cd's...are you usign the bf2.4 kernel? |
| 02:40.41 | somiaj | cminnick: cd I mean |
| 02:41.02 | raged44 | well if anyone feesl up to it later they can message me on how to fix my mouse... |
| 02:41.04 | Tweak22 | *so confused* |
| 02:41.22 | Tweak22 | how can I do mkraid (when drive is not doing anything) |
| 02:43.10 | Tweak22 | I umounted /dev/sda2 and then did mkraid /dev/md1 |
| 02:43.23 | Tweak22 | but it said /dev/sda2 is mounted mkraid: abnorted |
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| 02:43.31 | jetscreamer | mouse, debian kernel 2.6.x, /dev/input/mice maybe |
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| 02:44.07 | jetscreamer | you might take out generic mouse shit in XF86Config-4 also |
| 02:44.24 | jetscreamer | only pure mouse shit allowed? |
| 02:44.30 | pshaggy | which log shows user logins/logouts? |
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| 02:44.57 | jetscreamer | pure mouse shit doesn't stink as bad? |
| 02:45.14 | jetscreamer | pshaggy: maybe a pam one, dunno |
| 02:45.14 | pshaggy | nm |
| 02:45.22 | jetscreamer | pshaggy: which is it |
| 02:45.35 | pshaggy | looks like auth.log |
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| 02:46.18 | jetscreamer | speaking of, how come used to be, unsucessful root login attempts were reported on a succ4esful root login.... why not now? |
| 02:46.31 | cminnick | We believe we are using a V3.0_r2 cd image. |
| 02:46.44 | jetscreamer | we over here are so happy for you? |
| 02:46.54 | sophistication | turkey sandwich |
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| 02:47.17 | jetscreamer | i had one earlier, mayonaise&cheese&turkey |
| 02:47.25 | GunZ | can somebody tell me of a terminal that supports tabs other than gnome-terminal |
| 02:47.32 | prime | Hi, could someone tell me if this path would work with jigdo to make a bf2.4 iso http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian3.0r2/main/disks-i386/3.0.23-2002-05-21/bf2.4/ |
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| 02:48.07 | jetscreamer | i *think* jigdo has it's own images i forgot a long time ago though |
| 02:48.21 | jetscreamer | well months, not long |
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| 02:48.39 | FieldySnuts | !fuck Comcast Detroit |
| 02:48.51 | jetscreamer | GunZ: konsole :/ |
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| 02:49.13 | Tweak22 | how can I close all my nodes? |
| 02:49.24 | jetscreamer | cold air |
| 02:49.30 | prime | I guess I'll try it and see what happens , thanks jetscreamer |
| 02:49.35 | FieldySnuts | 'nodes'? |
| 02:49.58 | Tweak22 | or maybe inode? |
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| 02:50.10 | Tweak22 | I need to close everything that is running |
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| 02:50.40 | guestish | im back |
| 02:50.47 | Tweak22 | guestish! |
| 02:50.49 | guestish | man Tweak22, you are a frequent customer, lol |
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| 02:51.09 | ircasroot | how can i get xfree86 4.2 |
| 02:51.11 | ircasroot | with apt? |
| 02:51.11 | Tweak22 | guestish have you ever done software raid? |
| 02:51.28 | GunZ | jetscreamer: ewwwwwww... its ok i found multi-gnome-terminal |
| 02:51.33 | Mahdi | anyone knows where in kernel-source-2.6.4 i can setup a cdrw plz? |
| 02:51.34 | guestish | Tweak22: nope |
| 02:51.37 | Tweak22 | dang |
| 02:51.39 | guestish | Tweak22: never done raid |
| 02:51.44 | guestish | Tweak22: what about mdadm? |
| 02:51.45 | jetscreamer | i didn't like multi-gnome when i tried it |
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| 02:51.51 | Tweak22 | guestish I use them |
| 02:51.59 | FieldySnuts | god.. |
| 02:52.02 | Tweak22 | guestish but my drive I want to sync / mirror keeps syaing its busy |
| 02:52.06 | ircasroot | i can't even run xf86cfg properly on this install |
| 02:52.13 | jetscreamer | mahdi you just use /dev/hdX |
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| 02:52.23 | somiaj | Mahdi: with the newer cdrecord, it can burn with ATAPI, so as long as you have the ide-cdrom installed, you can burn (you don't need anything specail unless you wish to use scsi-emu which isn't needed anymore) |
| 02:52.26 | jetscreamer | no special stuff needed |
| 02:52.38 | guestish | Tweak22: read the documentation |
| 02:52.41 | Tweak22 | I did |
| 02:52.44 | Tweak22 | cant find it anywahree |
| 02:53.01 | Tweak22 | everyone else has the extra drive like they have 3 drives one they run everything on and they mirror the other to |
| 02:53.01 | jetscreamer | it's under.... |
| 02:53.06 | Tweak22 | so that the other 2 arnt busy |
| 02:53.13 | Mahdi | somiaj, so i dont need to specify anything for cdrw. CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD is enought, right? |
| 02:53.20 | guestish | Tweak22: man mdadm |
| 02:53.22 | guestish | Tweak22: heh |
| 02:53.25 | Tweak22 | nothing there |
| 02:53.27 | Tweak22 | trust me |
| 02:53.33 | Tweak22 | been wroking on this 48 hours striat |
| 02:53.36 | FieldySnuts | install mdadm first |
| 02:53.43 | guestish | Tweak22: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html |
| 02:53.46 | Tweak22 | its allready installed |
| 02:53.49 | Tweak22 | allready read that |
| 02:53.52 | Justin | Tweak22: lying won't help |
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| 02:53.57 | guestish | Tweak22: well i have no idea |
| 02:53.58 | FieldySnuts | then the man page should be there, if not it's a screwed install |
| 02:53.59 | somiaj | Mahdi: yup, you just need to be able to access the cddrive...nothing special is needed to burn...you just need a newer version of cdrecord to atapi burn (woody's might not be new enough) |
| 02:54.00 | Justin | the raid howto tells you exactly how to do it |
| 02:54.05 | Justin | the mdadm documentation tells you how to do it |
| 02:54.09 | jetscreamer | device drivers / ata/atapi |
| 02:54.13 | FieldySnuts | yep. i used that raid howto myself |
| 02:54.18 | Tweak22 | fieldysnuts I didnt say they arnt there. I have read them many many times |
| 02:54.20 | Mahdi | somiaj, okz =D tkz. I'm on sid |
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| 02:54.36 | jetscreamer | omg blue microsot? |
| 02:54.39 | jetscreamer | uh dot? |
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| 02:54.45 | Candover | Tweak22: fuser -m /dev/whatever-the-busy-partition-is |
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| 02:54.54 | jetscreamer | windowpane? |
| 02:55.02 | jetscreamer | or just blotter |
| 02:55.26 | somiaj | Mahdi: try a cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus |
| 02:55.35 | jetscreamer | lysergic diethylimide != sid |
| 02:55.41 | jetscreamer | did i spell that right? |
| 02:55.44 | jetscreamer | no |
| 02:55.51 | ircasroot | how do i apt-get unstable xfree86 4.3? |
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| 02:56.03 | jetscreamer | apt-get install x-window-system |
| 02:56.21 | jetscreamer | ass-u-me-ing you're running sid |
| 02:56.26 | ircasroot | nope i have 4.1 or something installed |
| 02:56.45 | Tweak22 | Candover it just put a whole bunch of numbers up. .. |
| 02:56.50 | toolchest | ircasroot: you're going to have to find a backport. check google. |
| 02:56.52 | Mahdi | somiaj, okz :) compiling kernel now... it'll take a while ... k6-2 450 sux |
| 02:56.54 | gravity | ircasroot: Check backports.org. There's a semi-official woody backport |
| 02:56.56 | Tweak22 | actully 1-344e |
| 02:56.59 | Candover | Tweak22: Those are the PIDs currently using that partition. |
| 02:57.05 | ircasroot | ok |
| 02:57.10 | Tweak22 | 344 things are using the hard drive?? |
| 02:57.36 | toolchest | gravity: afaik, only 4.2 was on the backports site. |
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| 02:57.57 | gravity | toolchest: I know Norbert did a backport of 4.3 |
| 02:58.02 | gravity | Because he beat me to it :-) |
| 02:58.02 | somiaj | Mahdi: well if ya have access to a faster i86 machine compile it there...(: |
| 02:58.06 | Candover | Tweak22: a thought occurs to me, after your rsync attempt earlier. Are you looking at /dev/sdb2 again? If so, what are the node numbers from 'ls -l /dev/sdb2' ? |
| 02:58.15 | gravity | toolchest: And he advertised it as being on backports.org |
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| 02:58.36 | toolchest | gravity: well, it's been a few weeks since i checked the site. |
| 02:58.44 | Mahdi | somiaj, i don't :( saving money for a new one. AthlonXP 3200+ probabily |
| 02:58.49 | toolchest | gravity: running 4.1 just fine with fluxbox. |
| 02:58.52 | Mahdi | somiaj, then i'll recompile it =D |
| 02:59.09 | somiaj | Mahdi: I'm still waiting for the price of the 3200 to drop...my machine is all set up for one to pop in, just on an 1800 now though |
| 02:59.26 | gravity | Ah yes. It appears that backports.org is Norbert's site. So the debs are definitely there |
| 02:59.48 | gravity | And there they are |
| 02:59.55 | Mahdi | somiaj, yep... i might buy a 2600+ and overclock it to 3200+... depends on the avaiable cash =P |
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| 03:00.44 | somiaj | Mahdi: hmm, that sounds like you will burn though that 2600 quite fast and should of just bought a 3200 in the frist place...(: |
| 03:00.47 | ircasroot | another question. how can i search by version with apt-cache search? |
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| 03:00.55 | sjtu | How to divid 40G disk is better, like /boot 100M / 3G /var/cache 3G /var/bak 1G /usr 5G /home 20G? |
| 03:01.23 | Mahdi | somiaj, lol =D i've seen it working before =) with a proper cooling it is pretty possible |
| 03:01.45 | toolchest | gravity: Version: 4.2.1-15.backports.org.1 is all i come across doing a quick search on the site. |
| 03:02.03 | Mahdi | somiaj, a friend of mine have one working pretty well at home |
| 03:02.07 | somiaj | Mahdi: possible yes, it still sortens the life span of the chip....but I guess I see little reason to over clock, most the time you don't use the whole cpu for a desktop anyways. |
| 03:02.37 | gravity | toolchest: Hmmm.... you're right. I'm surprised. |
| 03:03.07 | Mahdi | somiaj, true... i'll see how it goes without overclocking... if it's still slow for games and videos i'll overclock it |
| 03:03.18 | somiaj | Mahdi: I will probably just go with a 3000, all I'm after is the 400 bus speed. |
| 03:03.41 | toolchest | gravity: maybe it's still not to late for that backport eh? ;) |
| 03:03.42 | Mahdi | somiaj, isnt there 2600 with 400bus/ |
| 03:03.57 | gravity | toolchest: Nah, it's out there. apt-get.org should have it |
| 03:04.20 | somiaj | Mahdi: I thoguht 3000 was the lowest, but I could be mistaking |
| 03:04.33 | somiaj | Mahdi: I also think 3000 is the mininium that has their new core (b-something) |
| 03:04.48 | gravity | Man, apt-get.org is slow |
| 03:04.52 | Mahdi | somiaj, hmmm i'll check this later... i thought i could have a 2600/400 barton =/ |
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| 03:05.21 | barretj | how do i stop modules from automatically loading at boot time? |
| 03:05.22 | somiaj | Mahdi: I coudl be mistaking but I thought 2500 was where the 333 bus started, and the 3000 was where the 400 and barton core started.... |
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| 03:05.29 | guestish | heh |
| 03:06.02 | Mahdi | somiaj, yep... dunno =/ i'll check for the best option at the hardware store =) |
| 03:06.18 | opti | I'm seeing this... "a) a line in the file /etc/hotplug/usermap that corresponds to the camera you are using. You can get the correct lines for all cameras supported by libgphoto2 by running "print-usb-usermap"."... |
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| 03:06.34 | opti | yet "print-usb-usermap" does not exist. I'm trying to configure hotplug. |
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| 03:06.42 | toolchest | gravity: somebody give these guys $20,000 so they can get some new servers or something... |
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| 03:06.56 | guestish | someone give me $20,000 |
| 03:06.57 | barretj | how do i prevent modules from automatically loading at boot time? |
| 03:06.59 | doub | hi there |
| 03:07.00 | gravity | hehe |
| 03:07.04 | somiaj | Mahdi: Im' looking it up, I've been meaning to read about teh barton core anyways....(: |
| 03:07.09 | holycow | or pet them on your oc3 :) |
| 03:07.11 | somiaj | Mahdi: and my inet is at about 30-40% packet loss so I can't play vids anyways...(: |
| 03:07.18 | Maquiavelo | Is there anyway I can 'open' a .deb package ? |
| 03:07.24 | gravity | Maquiavelo: dpkg -x |
| 03:07.27 | Maquiavelo | Thanks. |
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| 03:07.40 | guestish | !tell barretj about modconf |
| 03:07.43 | Mahdi | somiaj, =P |
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| 03:09.04 | holycow | anyone here have a tv card and watch tv via linux? |
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| 03:09.04 | holycow | just curious how easy/hard it is to setup |
| 03:09.27 | somiaj | Mahdi: damn its hard to find just specs on AMD's sight as to what is what...bah...(: |
| 03:10.18 | carrett | hi, i installed debian sucessfully a few months ago and i'm now reinstalling with the same setup and dhcp is failing even though the computer connects to the net with windows and the gentoo livecd, can anyone help or suggest any reason why this might be? |
| 03:10.47 | Tweak22 | OMG |
| 03:10.53 | somiaj | carrett: you have the correct module for your ethernet card installed...will be where I start. |
| 03:10.56 | bztunk | OMG2u |
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| 03:11.19 | Tweak22 | bztunk hehe |
| 03:11.19 | holycow | carret, how do you know dhcp is failing as opposed to you not having the right dns ip? |
| 03:11.21 | carrett | somiaj: yes. the very same one, 8139too, only it's not a module in the installer kernel |
| 03:11.27 | helix | Tweak22: what are you getting unnecessarily excited about now? |
| 03:11.30 | bztunk | Tweak22: heh :D |
| 03:11.35 | guestish | barretj: it works with 2.6, i use it, trust me |
| 03:11.39 | somiaj | carrett: in the bf2.4 kernel, that one is built in. |
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| 03:11.47 | carrett | somiaj: right |
| 03:11.51 | barretj | guestish: ok, i will try it |
| 03:12.08 | somiaj | Mahdi: according to pricewatch.com the 400's start at 3000+ |
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| 03:12.13 | guestish | barretj: also /etc/modules.conf has all the modules that are loaded at startup |
| 03:12.24 | carrett | holycow: i just told the installer to conifg networking using dhcp/bootp and it failed even though it worked with the exact same setup a few months ago |
| 03:12.35 | somiaj | carrett: hmmm, seems strange...you are using the woody installer or are testing installer? |
| 03:12.36 | barretj | guestish: so basically modconf just edits /etc/modules.conf? |
| 03:12.44 | carrett | somiaj: i tried both |
| 03:12.47 | Mahdi | somiaj, hmm =/ so i guess i'll take a 3000+ too |
| 03:12.52 | guestish | barretj: and uses modprobe and insmod |
| 03:12.57 | carrett | somiaj: in the sarge installer it says the module fails to load |
| 03:12.57 | holycow | ah oki :/ i bet your network card doesnt have the right module installed for it |
| 03:13.08 | holycow | as the others are saying |
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| 03:13.47 | carrett | somiaj: (because in the sarge installer 8139too is a module) |
| 03:13.47 | barretj | guestish: # ls /etc/modules.conf |
| 03:13.47 | barretj | ls: /etc/modules.conf: No such file or directory |
| 03:13.49 | somiaj | carrett: My suggestion is use the woody installer then upgrade if ya want to run sarge or sid...really the sarge installer should only be used for testing purposes....as for the netinstall cd's I have no experience with thouse so can't help ya there. |
| 03:14.07 | carrett | somiaj: it doesn't work on the woody installer either |
| 03:14.09 | guestish | barretj: its a curses front end to loading and unloading modules, whatever you change in that is put in modules.conf |
| 03:14.16 | helix | grr |
| 03:14.18 | guestish | barretj: are you using debian? |
| 03:14.22 | helix | !lart my lug members |
| 03:14.23 | barretj | yes, lol |
| 03:14.43 | guestish | barretj: type update-modules |
| 03:14.43 | somiaj | carrett: what error does it send to ya? |
| 03:14.44 | carrett | somiaj: but 8139too doesn't work on the woody installer either...so i can't update |
| 03:14.47 | barretj | why are modules getting loaded at boot if i dont have a modules.conf file?!? |
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| 03:14.54 | guestish | barretj: as root |
| 03:15.03 | guestish | barretj: well, actually its just called modules |
| 03:15.05 | peterS | barretj: you probably have a /etc/modules |
| 03:15.08 | barretj | ok |
| 03:15.08 | guestish | barretj: but you should have modules.conf |
| 03:15.09 | carrett | somiaj: "No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 02:0.c.0. Probably buggy MP table." |
| 03:15.12 | somiaj | carrett: are you sure you using the bf2.4 kernel, the default on one the woody installer is 2.2.20 (you have to type bf24 to use that) |
| 03:15.16 | peterS | barretj: and/or you are running hotplug or some such |
| 03:15.20 | guestish | barretj: type update-modules |
| 03:15.23 | carrett | somiaj: bf24 |
| 03:15.23 | peterS | helix: I'm working |
| 03:15.25 | barretj | i did |
| 03:15.32 | barretj | what does it do? |
| 03:15.33 | helix | jeez, relax.. i was kidding |
| 03:15.37 | guestish | generates modules.conf |
| 03:15.38 | guestish | lol |
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| 03:15.45 | somiaj | carrett: hmm....do you have pnp os turned off in your bios, that coudl cause problems like that. |
| 03:15.46 | barretj | it didnt |
| 03:15.57 | carrett | somiaj: i'll see if that's it...thanks! |
| 03:16.00 | barretj | so hotplug is whats loading the modules? |
| 03:16.12 | guestish | wtf |
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| 03:16.16 | guestish | what are you talking about? |
| 03:16.20 | guestish | hotplug is for usb |
| 03:16.42 | barretj | ok, thats what peterS said |
| 03:16.49 | guestish | ... |
| 03:16.56 | guestish | you have your programs confused |
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| 03:17.10 | peterS | barretj: hotplug is one culprit that can load modules behind your back. you may or may not have it |
| 03:17.33 | carrett | somiaj: IT WORKED! thanks i've been trying to fix this for ages! |
| 03:17.39 | barretj | peterS: does it load all types of modules? |
| 03:17.53 | peterS | barretj: if you don't have it installed anyway, does it matter? |
| 03:18.04 | carrett | somiaj: what does pnp os do anyway? |
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| 03:18.22 | guestish | carrett: how'd u fix it? |
| 03:18.39 | toolchest | !u |
| 03:18.39 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1. |
| 03:18.47 | carrett | guestish: turned off pnp os in bios |
| 03:18.53 | guestish | carrett: cool |
| 03:19.10 | carrett | guestish: don't know if we had the same problem though... |
| 03:19.37 | guestish | carrett: im just courious |
| 03:20.04 | carrett | guestish: yeah, it was a weird problem...i remember now i reset my bios at some point so that must've turned the pnp os back on |
| 03:20.09 | carrett | what does pnp os do anyway? |
| 03:20.30 | somiaj | carrett: not really sure, its something for windows...It does something with passing info to the os about the pnp devices installed for assigning irq's and such. |
| 03:20.46 | guestish | carrett: the OS configures devices instead of the bios |
| 03:20.50 | carrett | somiaj: fuckin' windows, ruining everything all the time. |
| 03:20.57 | carrett | guestish: oh |
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| 03:21.08 | carrett | ok, i'm going to go install happily now! |
| 03:21.31 | comm | can someone direct me to a howto on the steps of getting a network card installed and working |
| 03:22.03 | cfaun | What extension do static libraries have? |
| 03:22.08 | gravity | comm: man interfaces |
| 03:22.39 | somiaj | comm: if you have the card in your box, really have two things to do, a) load the correct module for the card in your kernel (one meatod to find this is modconf), and b) configure your interface for this step man 5 interfaces |
| 03:22.40 | guestish | comm: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Net-HOWTO.html |
| 03:23.35 | holycow | guestish, hey cool link |
| 03:23.42 | holycow | my thanks dude :) never knew about that site |
| 03:23.47 | Tweak22 | is there any way to boot from a floppy ? |
| 03:23.55 | Tweak22 | so I can work on the hard drives |
| 03:23.58 | Tweak22 | withought them being used? |
| 03:23.58 | guestish | holycow: its oooollllld, lol |
| 03:24.01 | comm | guestish: I dont think the nic even has a irq |
| 03:24.02 | guestish | http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/networking.html |
| 03:24.07 | guestish | this one is slightly newer |
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| 03:24.27 | jetscreamer | nic? |
| 03:24.36 | jetscreamer | http://scyld.com/network/ |
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| 03:24.56 | comm | 3c905b |
| 03:25.25 | Justin | Tweak22: actually reading the raid howto would be a good idea |
| 03:25.30 | guestish | holycow: were u talking about the networking link? |
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| 03:25.54 | holycow | yeah, i never knew about that site :) |
| 03:25.59 | guestish | o, heh |
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| 03:26.09 | Surgo | Hey, got something of a problem. I just upgraded from Exim 3 to Exim 4 (I'm running a mail server), and everything has been peaches so far except for users that have no home directory. I have /no/home/dir listed in /etc/passwd for them, and this little trick worked fine with exim3 when delivering mail, but for exim4 it's trying to stat a file but dies when it can't find /no/home/dir for the user. How would I go about fixing this? |
| 03:26.24 | Tweak22 | Justin_ I have read it 10000 times |
| 03:26.36 | Justin | Tweak22: again, lying won't help you, reading it will |
| 03:26.42 | Tweak22 | Justin_ I DID |
| 03:26.45 | _ding | I've upgraded to a large HD by formatting the disk mounting it and copy over all the files. How do I install grub on the mbr? I booted from a debian cd to with root=/dev/hda3 but can't access anything like grub under /sbin .... |
| 03:26.50 | Tweak22 | Justin_ I did it step by step following exactly |
| 03:26.52 | DesTr0yeR | what can I do about checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! |
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| 03:27.09 | nullvoid | Surgo: /no/home/dir ? why don't you use /dev/null |
| 03:27.23 | Goll | DesTr0yeR give it the path to QT |
| 03:27.26 | Tweak22 | Justin_ it says type mkraid md1 and I do it and it gives an error and it doesnt say ANYTHING aobut erros in howtos |
| 03:27.39 | DesTr0yeR | Goll, hmm, k .. just down know it... |
| 03:27.42 | Goll | DesTr0yeR is QT installed ? |
| 03:27.45 | somiaj | DesTr0yeR: dpkg -L libqt<blah>-dev and see where it puts the qt libs, then use ./configure --with-libqtdir=<path> or something like that, look at ./configure --help |
| 03:27.48 | DesTr0yeR | yeah.. |
| 03:27.59 | DesTr0yeR | somiaj, thanks.. |
| 03:28.02 | Surgo | nullvoid: doesn't home directory have to be, well, a directory? |
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| 03:28.22 | aarkerio | Newbiw question: wich is easier, Postfix or Exim? |
| 03:28.27 | nullvoid | Surgo: where you are storing the e-mail then if you have no home dirs |
| 03:28.37 | Surgo | In any case, it seems how I went about doing this in Exim 3 was adding a director that checked for /no/home/dir and replied accordingly, but there's no directors in exim 4 anymore apparantly |
| 03:28.40 | Surgo | nullvoid: /var/mail |
| 03:28.43 | Tweak22 | Justin_ do you have any clue? |
| 03:28.45 | nullvoid | aarkerio: postfix |
| 03:28.45 | Surgo | er, /var/mail/{user} |
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| 03:28.54 | Justin | Tweak22: yes, because I actually fucking read the howto |
| 03:28.57 | DesTr0yeR | somiaj, but what is exactly libqt<blah>-dev ? the <blah>-section ? |
| 03:29.04 | Tweak22 | Justin_ ok then what |
| 03:29.05 | Justin | Tweak22: now stop whining, and stop lying, and go read it |
| 03:29.29 | Tweak22 | Justin_ I READ AND READ AND READ the HOWTOS AND they dont say anythinga bout an device busy error. |
| 03:29.34 | somiaj | DesTr0yeR: what ever the acual -dev package name is, I don't use qt and don't know... |
| 03:29.40 | holycow | Tweak22, ignore the twat |
| 03:29.42 | DesTr0yeR | k |
| 03:29.43 | Justin | Tweak22: then give up |
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| 03:29.47 | holycow | his job in life is to torture newbs |
| 03:29.49 | guestish | Tweak22: have u tried doing everything from single user mode? |
| 03:29.50 | holycow | ignore him and he goes away |
| 03:29.56 | Tweak22 | init 1 |
| 03:29.57 | Tweak22 | yes |
| 03:29.59 | holycow | either that or you get some good info out of him :) |
| 03:30.01 | holycow | hehe |
| 03:30.04 | guestish | no, mwilson's job is to torture newbs |
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| 03:30.11 | Surgo | I can find transports and routers, but there are no directors anymore so I'm a little stuck :p |
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| 03:30.12 | nullvoid | bye (reboot) |
| 03:30.12 | guestish | Justin's is to pester them |
| 03:30.15 | somiaj | DesTr0yeR: there are lots of them, but libqt3-dev or libqt3-mt-dev (there are varrious possibilities) |
| 03:30.16 | holycow | lol guestish :) |
| 03:30.19 | Justin | holycow: funny how we try to ignore you, but you refuse to take a hint that no one likes you |
| 03:30.20 | guestish | :) |
| 03:30.25 | DesTr0yeR | somiaj, k |
| 03:30.27 | aarkerio | nullvoid: I added the check_sender line in main.cf, need I something else to use the SMTP? |
| 03:30.29 | Justin | yet all you do is tell people to ignore me, good work |
| 03:30.29 | holycow | Tweak22, just stick around, you will run into someone who knows the answer |
| 03:30.37 | holycow | don't give up on the account of our local asshats |
| 03:30.38 | Justin | the answer is in the fucking howto |
| 03:30.42 | Tweak22 | holycow I keep telling myself that but .. |
| 03:30.46 | Tweak22 | been 3 dayz |
| 03:30.57 | guestish | lol |
| 03:30.57 | holycow | they're like barking dogs, throw them a bone and theyr cool |
| 03:31.01 | helix | Justin: where did your tail go? :) |
| 03:31.01 | Tweak22 | I even asked in debian mailing list |
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| 03:31.09 | holycow | *nod* Tweak22thats okay, walk away for a while, come back later |
| 03:31.11 | holycow | refresh your mind |
| 03:31.21 | holycow | if i actually knew i would love to help :/ |
| 03:31.21 | Tweak22 | I dont have anything in there 2 refresh |
| 03:31.22 | aarkerio | tweak: what is the problem? |
| 03:31.25 | helix | Tweak22: perhaps you haven't asked a fully formed question yet |
| 03:31.29 | holycow | hahaha :) |
| 03:31.31 | Justin | aarkerio: he regfuses to read the raid howto |
| 03:31.37 | holycow | helix might have something of course :) |
| 03:31.40 | Justin | just like he refused to read the kernel docs |
| 03:32.01 | helix | Justin: he's selectively literate |
| 03:32.01 | Justin | so he will whine and whine and whine for 3 more days until someone tells him what to type |
| 03:32.09 | guestish | Tweak22: try setting it up from running a cd, maybe the problem is that you are running off of the hd you want to raid |
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| 03:32.21 | Justin | guestish: the howto tells you exactly what to do. |
| 03:32.24 | Tweak22 | aarkerio I am trying to do softwar raid 1. that is when you mirror a hard drive. OK. I have everything set up correctly and when I go mkraid /dev/md1 it says that it cant mirror it becuase the divice is in use or is busy. |
| 03:32.34 | guestish | Justin: good for it |
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| 03:32.43 | Tweak22 | guestish that is the problem .. how would I set it up for a CD? |
| 03:32.44 | helix | Tweak22: omfg, that was the same problem you were having like 8 hours ago |
| 03:32.53 | Tweak22 | helix actully 2 days ago |
| 03:32.56 | Justin | helix: he refused to read the howto 8 hours ago |
| 03:32.57 | stew | Tweak22: do you have the drive mounted that you are trying to mirror? |
| 03:32.59 | helix | god. |
| 03:33.00 | Surgo | In the old userforward -director- I added a line: condition = ${if eq {$home}{/no/home/dir}{no}{yes} |
| 03:33.02 | Justin | he refused to read the howto last night |
| 03:33.04 | guestish | Tweak22: easily |
| 03:33.09 | holycow | naw i doubt it |
| 03:33.10 | helix | umm |
| 03:33.14 | holycow | i definately think he read it |
| 03:33.18 | guestish | Tweak22: you simply boot from a cd and chroot to your linux partition |
| 03:33.19 | Tweak22 | stew yes |
| 03:33.21 | holycow | he's just missing it because he's too close to the problem |
| 03:33.22 | Justin | of course you did you fucking retard |
| 03:33.25 | stew | Tweak22: yeah well that would tend to make it busy |
| 03:33.27 | Justin | no one is ever to blame |
| 03:33.28 | Surgo | but uh, I'm not entirely sure how this carries over to the userforward router, and how it would affect anything, and it's generally not a Good Idea to go adding random lines that you don't know what will make it do |
| 03:33.29 | guestish | Tweak22: its simply |
| 03:33.30 | holycow | let him step back a bit |
| 03:33.31 | guestish | Tweak22: its simple |
| 03:33.34 | FieldySnuts | helix: he's been trying to do this for about the past 3 days.. he can't/won't read/comprehend |
| 03:33.42 | holycow | we only blame you justin *wink* :D |
| 03:33.43 | helix | holycow: he's missing it because he's a retard |
| 03:33.46 | Tweak22 | guestish (ok can I personally message you?) |
| 03:33.49 | jetscreamer | there is no raid |
| 03:33.50 | guestish | sure |
| 03:33.55 | Justin | the howto tells you exactly what to do. |
| 03:34.01 | jetscreamer | there is no howto |
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| 03:34.22 | Justin | but it is much easier to claim you read it, type random things, then go on irc to get someone to do it for you |
| 03:34.33 | jetscreamer | there are no mp3's |
| 03:34.56 | somiaj | gravity: even too scratched for cdparanoia...hmm you must of washed them with an sos pad...(: |
| 03:35.20 | gravity | somiaj: It's my drive. One of them is in really bad shape though, just because I left it near an open window for weeks |
| 03:35.25 | gravity | LA smog is bad news |
| 03:35.26 | peterS | somiaj: it's also a function of your cdrom drive. mine is crap, and has major problems with even really minor scratches |
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| 03:35.51 | gravity | peterS: That's my issue too. My drive on my old desktop could handle these just fine |
| 03:36.02 | gravity | Unfortunately, that drive is across the country :-\ |
| 03:36.15 | peterS | gravity: yeah. $65 will get you a brand new CDRW/DVDROM, fortunately. I will probably do that at some point here |
| 03:36.19 | somiaj | peterS: ahh...(: |
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| 03:36.29 | FieldySnuts | !fuck Comcast Detroit |
| 03:36.30 | aarkerio | Smtp is port 25, right ? |
| 03:36.36 | peterS | aarkerio: /etc/services knows |
| 03:36.43 | peterS | aarkerio: yes, it is |
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| 03:36.58 | CrippsFX | whats the command to make my debian box start up in command line by defaqult? |
| 03:37.05 | garung | hey people, how do add ipv6 to modules.conf? |
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| 03:37.13 | garung | alias ipv6? |
| 03:37.15 | aarkerio | PeterS: Thanks. |
| 03:37.23 | Surgo | Re-added the line, seems to be a problem with the conditional, or they work a different way... |
| 03:37.28 | CrippsFX | ...i know its something like: echo "false" > default display manager |
| 03:37.33 | CrippsFX | ....or something like that |
| 03:37.36 | Justin | !tell CrippsFX about nodm |
| 03:37.47 | CrippsFX | Justin: thanks |
| 03:37.57 | aarkerio | garung: /etc/modules.conf no, just /etc/modules |
| 03:38.03 | peterS | garung: alias net-pf-10 ipv6 |
| 03:38.31 | peterS | garung: put that in /etc/modutils/aliases or similar, and run 'update-modules' |
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| 03:38.40 | holycow | *oooo* |
| 03:38.42 | garung | oh |
| 03:38.44 | holycow | found a pack of guitar strings |
| 03:38.44 | garung | thanks |
| 03:38.48 | holycow | brb, gotta restring! |
| 03:38.49 | holycow | heh |
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| 03:39.01 | holycow | yes, i know you are all happy to know that |
| 03:39.03 | bujin | does anybody know an english-spanish dictionary? |
| 03:39.19 | holycow | lol /me shuts up now making justing delusionally happy for some strange reason |
| 03:39.20 | holycow | :D |
| 03:39.25 | somiaj | bujin: apt-cache search (you'll find one) |
| 03:39.40 | Justin | holycow: dying would make me happy |
| 03:39.51 | holycow | hahaha :) |
| 03:39.54 | holycow | *awwww* |
| 03:39.56 | holycow | *sniff* |
| 03:39.58 | holycow | you care! |
| 03:40.00 | holycow | lol :) |
| 03:40.19 | Surgo | Does anyone know how to put a conditional in a router in Exim 4? Seems to be working differently than it was in Exim 3 |
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| 03:43.32 | steven_ | hello everyone |
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| 03:44.46 | carrett | what's the best fs for *only* storing mp3s and the like (just data, no programs/os)? |
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| 03:45.14 | gilgaplex | heya. I am trying to dsetermine the differences between slackware and debian. Which ones have more support, the specialized areas of each, and the stability of each. I thought this might be a good place to dtart. Why do YOU people use debian over slackware? |
| 03:45.41 | Justin | gilgaplex: slackware is what you would get if you took debian, removed all the good stuff, and added a lot of crap in its place. |
| 03:45.45 | Kai2 | anyone know how to access courier-webadmin? i can't find any info in the docs about it's default access method... |
| 03:45.59 | carrett | Justin: nice synopsis |
| 03:46.15 | Justin | i think that's still pretty accurate:) |
| 03:46.18 | ircasroot | gilgaplex: i use slackware over debian |
| 03:46.26 | ircasroot | im learning debian just for something to do |
| 03:46.33 | ircasroot | apt is nice |
| 03:46.34 | apt | ircasroot: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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| 03:46.41 | ircasroot | heh |
| 03:46.53 | _FieldySnuts | ~penixstrike ircasroot |
| 03:46.55 | apt | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking ircasroot to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 03:46.55 | gilgaplex | hmmmm. alright. What kind of "crap"is contained within slackware? |
| 03:47.12 | ircasroot | haha |
| 03:47.18 | ircasroot | crap? |
| 03:47.23 | aarkerio | Kai2: do U want install webmail service? |
| 03:47.30 | _FieldySnuts | !u |
| 03:47.30 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1. |
| 03:47.32 | ircasroot | just try them both man thats all i can say |
| 03:47.50 | _FieldySnuts | brb |
| 03:47.53 | aarkerio | Sorry, Shakespeare |
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| 03:48.10 | Kai2 | no, i want to configure courier to let me actually do something (the default debian install didnt set it up like i wanted it seems) |
| 03:48.33 | Kai2 | and i have no idea where to look for debugging information from courier imap |
| 03:48.42 | opti | this hotplug stuff is ridiculous. I'm just trying to add a user for digicam access, it shouldn't be this complicated. It seems that the scripts and such basically contradict one another. |
| 03:48.44 | gilgaplex | debian has 7 disks, 3 of which I can actually use, i think... What kind of features/specialties does debian have wheras pertaining to thus query? |
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| 03:49.04 | Justin | opti: all you have to do is copy that file in place and run the command they tell you to |
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| 03:49.14 | ircasroot | really you only need 1 debian disk |
| 03:49.20 | CrippsFX | Picklebus Stinkle Poo. |
| 03:49.22 | carrett | what's the best fs for *only* storing mp3s and the like (just data, no programs/os)? |
| 03:49.34 | CrippsFX | ntfs? |
| 03:49.39 | CrippsFX | :P |
| 03:49.39 | Justin | really you need 0 debian disks |
| 03:50.17 | ircasroot | -1 debian disks |
| 03:50.52 | CrippsFX | carrett: I use ntfs as my storage partition so that I can get at it in windows and in *nix ....its definitely more efficient than FAT or vfat |
| 03:51.09 | kaplanfx | what is the avg amount of time before released software hits unstable (consider a program that already has a previous ver in sid) |
| 03:51.29 | carrett | CrippsFX: more than any *nix fs? |
| 03:52.33 | aarkerio | carret: FAT16 |
| 03:53.01 | opti | Justin: what file and what command, exactly? |
| 03:53.21 | opti | Justin: the script is telling me I have to do more than that |
| 03:54.10 | Justin | /usr/share/doc/libgphoto2-2/linux-hotplug/usbcam.group |
| 03:54.17 | Justin | i forget if you have to do the rest |
| 03:54.42 | Justin | all it does is make /etc/hotplug/usb/libgphoto2.usermap, and the postinstall might do that now |
| 03:55.01 | CrippsFX | aarkerio: he's gone.....lol at your suggestion though :P |
| 03:56.33 | opti | Justin: "Note that for this script to work, you'll need all of the following: a) a line in the file /etc/hotplug/usermap that corresponds to the camera you are using. You can get the correct lines for all cameras supported by libgphoto2 by running "print-usb-usermap"." |
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| 03:57.06 | Justin | opti: thats not exactly right |
| 03:57.15 | opti | Justin: that file did not exist, so I created it and added that line. |
| 03:57.32 | Justin | 22:54 < Justin> all it does is make /etc/hotplug/usb/libgphoto2.usermap |
| 03:57.35 | opti | hmm, well another example of where documentation isn't as helpful as it should be, I guess. |
| 03:57.35 | Justin | it should be called that |
| 03:58.12 | opti | ok, so I should create a /etc/hotplug/usb/libgphoto2.usermap and put that line in there? |
| 03:58.21 | Justin | /usr/share/doc/libgphoto2-2/README.Debian tells you what to do |
| 03:58.27 | Justin | surely you read that FIRST eh? |
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| 03:58.50 | opti | Justin: must I see where documentation contradicts itself and decide which to follow? |
| 03:59.02 | doublehp | can someone give me the line for /etc/apt/sources.list so that I can install opera ? thanks. |
| 03:59.10 | Justin | just copy the fucking file and run the command it says to run |
| 03:59.26 | ircasroot | is anyone running a version of X newer than 4.1? |
| 03:59.39 | Justin | !tell ircasroot about polls |
| 03:59.52 | ircasroot | i got 4.2 off backports.org and it fucked up |
| 03:59.59 | Kai2 | anyone know how to fix "invoke-rc.d: initscript apache, action "start" failed."? |
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| 04:00.30 | fflush | Kai2, error log is your friend |
| 04:00.35 | ircasroot | but it is a valid question isnt it |
| 04:00.37 | ircasroot | ;P |
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| 04:01.08 | Kai2 | fflush: i couldnt find anything about apt or dpkg in /var/log |
| 04:01.14 | doublehp | opera: "deb http://www.opera.com/debian stable opera" done it. |
| 04:01.39 | ding | I'm trying to `grub-install /dev/hdb`, but I get a "/dev/hdb does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.", where can I look for more help? The grub man pages say that I should be able to specify /dev/hdb... |
| 04:02.02 | gabaod | an asus p4p800 motherboard, thats an i386 right? not an i686 |
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| 04:02.28 | iv4n | gabaod: more like p4 if you gonna compile :) |
| 04:02.42 | doublehp | ding try to join #hurd . |
| 04:02.49 | holycow | ircasroot, yep, running 4.3 from unstable |
| 04:02.53 | holycow | so far so good |
| 04:03.06 | ding | THanks doublehp |
| 04:03.12 | ircasroot | holycow: hmmm... i installed it and it toasted my X executable heh |
| 04:03.22 | gabaod | well i had a biostar in this computer... and switched out the mainboard and put in the asus, and it booted up surprisingly, but its saying its a i686, yes i know i have to recompile kernel for new mobo, but just odd |
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| 04:03.42 | holycow | *nod* well i guess theres a reason debian stable is 'stable' :) |
| 04:03.59 | ircasroot | actually it was 4.2 i had |
| 04:04.04 | ircasroot | how do i get 4.3? |
| 04:04.04 | holycow | my kde3.2.x upgrade hosed it self, but i can't complain i knew it was a possibility |
| 04:04.22 | silas | ok |
| 04:04.26 | ircasroot | im a debian noob |
| 04:04.27 | silas | this is cool. |
| 04:04.28 | holycow | basically upgrade to unstable, but be forewarned that unstable is just that, unstable |
| 04:04.33 | silas | irc from m |
| 04:04.37 | Justin | !+sid upgrade |
| 04:04.37 | dpkg | Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay the fuck away from it if you're neither. Use stable or testing instead. |
| 04:04.38 | CrippsFX | brb...gotta restart. |
| 04:04.44 | silas | irc from my cell over ssh |
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| 04:04.56 | holycow | if you got time and resources to upgrade, mess about :) nothing wrong with that, just don't mess with a system you can't afford to hose |
| 04:05.01 | beth | dpkg: you liar :P |
| 04:05.02 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, beth |
| 04:05.07 | ircasroot | ohh i can afford to hose it trust me |
| 04:05.12 | mwilson | gabaod: Why in the world would you *have* to recompile the kernel for a new motherboard? |
| 04:05.16 | ircasroot | cause if it doesnt work ill be going back to slackware |
| 04:05.35 | holycow | hehehe :) |
| 04:05.36 | mwilson | gabaod: If the new one had hardware the old didn't, then perhaps, but otherwise why would you need to? |
| 04:05.37 | Justin | then trying to install unstable is a sure way to get it to not work |
| 04:05.49 | ircasroot | i just want a version of X thats newer |
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| 04:06.07 | holycow | not true, i've installed unstable about two dozen times now, each time everything was smooth |
| 04:06.10 | mwilson | ircasroot: Why don't you just use Snacky in the first place? |
| 04:06.22 | holycow | that of course doesn't mean your path will remain so |
| 04:06.28 | holycow | play with it, it's fun :) |
| 04:06.30 | gabaod | mwilson: different chipsets/onboard |
| 04:07.03 | ircasroot | i like the idea that debian only uses stable packages though... it would make a good server |
| 04:07.05 | mwilson | holycow: Operating systems aren't something you "play" with. |
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| 04:07.19 | holycow | or course they are, thats the only way you learn |
| 04:07.19 | Justin | mwilson: "about two dozen times", thats a good one |
| 04:07.27 | ircasroot | heheh |
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| 04:07.31 | mwilson | holycow: Hardly. |
| 04:07.39 | Justin | i thought you learned by crying on irc until someone tells you what to type... |
| 04:07.53 | holycow | *yawn* justin :) |
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| 04:08.00 | holycow | thats the best you can come up with? |
| 04:08.06 | holycow | heh i don't even haveto try |
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| 04:08.27 | gabaod | mwilson: does i686 mean 800mhz fsb? and like 233 fsb be i386? not sure exactly what the difference is of those 2 |
| 04:08.29 | ircasroot | WHAT DO I TYPE NEXT |
| 04:08.32 | comm | anyone ever get ***INVALID CHECSUM 0010*** and an all FF: mac addr? |
| 04:08.41 | opti | Justin: well it appears that I did what you said, and things still don't work. |
| 04:08.48 | holycow | ircasroot, hehe :) careeeful with the baiting! don't feed our friends! |
| 04:09.03 | comm | also how do I set the irq for a device via an module |
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| 04:09.08 | toolchest | mwilson: we have a low signal to noise ratio today. |
| 04:09.09 | ircasroot | :~((( |
| 04:09.12 | Justin | comm: is that an e100? |
| 04:09.16 | hanasaki | can someone give me a hand getting japanese to work? i am not sure how to get the input mechanism to work.. kinput2 is running and so is kterm |
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| 04:09.23 | comm | 3c905b |
| 04:09.34 | comm | where are irqs in proc? |
| 04:09.39 | Justin | comm: you don't |
| 04:09.46 | Justin | comm: return it and get a new one? |
| 04:09.49 | cafuego | gabaod: No, FSB is *COMPLETELY* unrelated to what the code for a chip is. |
| 04:10.06 | comm | Justin: ? as in its broken? |
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| 04:10.16 | Justin | comm: it's not looking good. |
| 04:10.28 | erik | hey, when i echo -n "mem" > /sys/power/state, it works but the video doesn't come back from suspend. is there any way around that? Using 2.6.4 |
| 04:10.55 | comm | Justin: uh, ok, its worked in the box before so... |
| 04:11.28 | Justin | comm: previous working condition does not yield infinite life. |
| 04:11.33 | cafuego | gabaod: i386 is "generic x86" ... i686 is a Pentium Pro/Pentium 2/Pentium 3/Pentium 4 type cpu. |
| 04:11.39 | Justin | try it in another box, otherwise get a new one |
| 04:11.59 | cafuego | Inclusing, but not limited to, celerons. |
| 04:12.06 | opti | hanasaki: Japanese input is a huge hassle w/ kinput2, there's one I'd recommend using if you use gtk2 apps but I can't remember the name just now, give me a second... |
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| 04:12.18 | comm | Justin: you sure man? |
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| 04:12.34 | hanasaki | opti: thanks!!... hanasaki waits |
| 04:12.39 | Niriven | What do i need in order to get past the error on the nvidia install for gcc-version-checker.c |
| 04:12.42 | Justin | comm: usually |
| 04:13.00 | CrippsFX | I just updated my kernel using apt-get ....what lines do I add to my /etc/lilo.conf to boot using the new kernel? |
| 04:13.09 | cafuego | Niriven: Like the docs say, IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=1 |
| 04:13.16 | opti | does anyone know a clear step-by-step guide or something on how to get everything set up for digital camera access in Debian? |
| 04:13.47 | Niriven | ah |
| 04:14.03 | erik | opti: 1) install windows xp |
| 04:14.05 | erik | 2) just work |
| 04:14.12 | Niriven | caf: So i just need to install the kernel source? |
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| 04:14.23 | harinath | CrippsFX: probably nothing, if your lilo.conf refers to /vmlinuz |
| 04:14.28 | holycow | hehehe erik |
| 04:14.29 | Niriven | caf: or just headers? |
| 04:14.38 | opti | erik: not a bad idea really, it works like a charm in win2k actually... but I spend most of my time in Gnome, so I'd like to get it working here. |
| 04:14.51 | Justin | opti: you setup the hotplug thingy, and it works |
| 04:15.00 | CrippsFX | harinath: it does...but i ran uname -a just to check...and it still sayz I'm running off 2.4.22 |
| 04:15.15 | cafuego | Niriven: Just headers is fine, just make sure you get the right ones. |
| 04:15.20 | opti | Justin: well hotplug is working for me, yet I still can't access the camera as a normal user. |
| 04:15.25 | hanasaki | opti: find it? |
| 04:15.28 | holycow | opti, someone was working on a gnome app a while back that would even put the icon on the desktop for whichever device was plugged in |
| 04:15.29 | Niriven | caf: The same version as the kernel im running? |
| 04:15.30 | erik | opti: add the user to whatever group the camera is owned by |
| 04:15.35 | comm | Justin: I havn't even insmod the module, btw |
| 04:15.36 | holycow | not sure where that is at the moment |
| 04:15.45 | Justin | comm: someone else did |
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| 04:16.03 | Justin | opti: yes, you have to add that other script |
| 04:16.15 | opti | Justin: actually it appears that gphoto2 does work on the command line, but gtkam doesn't work |
| 04:16.19 | comm | Justin: uh? wtf? |
| 04:16.28 | Justin | s/someone/something/ |
| 04:16.36 | comm | Justin: heh ok |
| 04:16.45 | comm | Justin: lsmod shows nothing |
| 04:16.49 | opti | Justin: if you meant the print-usb-devices or whatever to /etc/hotplug/usb/libgphoto2.group, then I did that. |
| 04:16.50 | harinath | CrippsFX: did you rerun lilo? does /vmlinuz point to your new kernel |
| 04:16.57 | Justin | opti: and the other file? |
| 04:17.04 | opti | holycow: that would be nice |
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| 04:17.29 | opti | Justin: the usb.group file? That part I was unclear on, the documentation doesn't exactly tell you what to do with it. |
| 04:17.29 | holycow | opti, *nod* |
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| 04:17.58 | Justin | copy it to /etc/hotplug/usb/usbcam |
| 04:17.59 | opti | hanasaki: sorry, can't remember the name atm and it doesn't come up under the searches you would think |
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| 04:18.07 | comm | Justin: but when I even try to insmod it gives me gpl errors. |
| 04:18.17 | Justin | comm: theres no such thing as a gpl error |
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| 04:18.35 | hanasaki | sok |
| 04:18.38 | hanasaki | thanks opti |
| 04:18.42 | Justin | and make sure its executable, like it says |
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| 04:19.15 | troubled | Justin: your my hero |
| 04:19.25 | Justin | troubled: what did I do now? |
| 04:19.38 | Justin | and it's you're :-P |
| 04:19.40 | troubled | Justin: nottin, just buggin ya ;) |
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| 04:20.03 | harinath | Justin: there is too GPL error. the 2.6 kernel series has several symbols marked as GPL only, i.e. binary-only modules cannot use those entrypoints into the kernel |
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| 04:20.24 | Justin | the 3com driver isn't a binary only module |
| 04:20.25 | comm | Justin: unresolved symbol |
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| 04:20.57 | Justin | and im sure if the 3c905 driver in 2.6 had a problem, they would have fixed it by now |
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| 04:22.43 | defendguin_ | im installing debin with the new installer and its askign me for the module to load for my ethernet card i have a linksys card in my laptop not sure what module this is |
| 04:22.55 | defendguin_ | debian |
| 04:23.13 | opti | hanasaki: ah, here we go: http://im-ja.sourceforge.net/ |
| 04:23.35 | comm | Justin: 3c905b-tx |
| 04:23.45 | opti | hanasaki: what fonts do you use for Japanese, btw? |
| 04:24.16 | defendguin_ | it says wireless- b notebook adapter |
| 04:24.26 | defendguin_ | model wpc11 |
| 04:24.51 | opti | Justin: sweet, it actually works now. Thanks for your help. |
| 04:25.10 | Justin | opti: see, now tecnically, what was the total number of commands needed to get that to work? |
| 04:25.50 | Justin | I think it's like 5 :-), ... > ... cp..., chmod +x ..., adduser camera, adduser foo camera |
| 04:25.57 | opti | Justin: the total number of commands is irrelevant if you can't figure out what those commands are. |
| 04:26.02 | Justin | heh |
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| 04:26.13 | holycow | opti, but your in the right place with the right questions |
| 04:26.13 | defendguin_ | any clue on what module it might be? |
| 04:26.14 | Justin | Wishlist items - outstanding |
| 04:26.14 | Justin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:26.20 | holycow | thx justin :) |
| 04:26.26 | Justin | holycow: shut up |
| 04:26.55 | erik | stop being racist justin |
| 04:27.08 | opti | Justin: actually, it now detects the camera, but it still won't list files on it... hmm |
| 04:27.19 | bob2 | erik: pardon? |
| 04:27.21 | comm | how do I stop xwindows from booting up on startup |
| 04:27.26 | Justin | !tell comm about nodm |
| 04:27.31 | erik | bob2: everyone knows that holycow is a kraut |
| 04:27.42 | holycow | bob2, he's an antibovite |
| 04:27.44 | holycow | lol :) |
| 04:27.51 | bob2 | erik: huh? |
| 04:27.54 | Justin | opti: all those scripts do is chgrp the files in /proc/bus/usb/... |
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| 04:28.24 | doublehp | comm: mv /etc/rc3.d/S99xdm /etc/rc3.d/K99xdm |
| 04:28.35 | comm | thanks dude |
| 04:28.42 | comm | so all the startup shit is in /etc/rc3.d? |
| 04:28.48 | comm | runlevel3?\ |
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| 04:28.53 | doublehp | comm check your default runlevel with "runlevel" |
| 04:28.53 | Justin | doublehp: you managed to be incorrect twice on one line |
| 04:28.55 | troubled | no 2 |
| 04:28.57 | bob2 | erik: afaict, all he has said to holycow in the past ten minutes is "shut up". |
| 04:29.03 | Niriven | I dont see kernel headers 2.4.20 in apt |
| 04:29.08 | comm | doublehp: its 2 |
| 04:29.12 | holycow | bob2, he's kidding |
| 04:29.12 | bob2 | I'd be interested to see how that is racist. |
| 04:29.16 | bob2 | ah |
| 04:29.17 | defendguin_ | i cant believe debian hardware detection sucks this bad |
| 04:29.18 | opti | Justin: and now it's not detecting the camera at all after I turned it off and unplugged it then plugged back in... hmm... |
| 04:29.22 | holycow | jeez :) |
| 04:29.33 | Justin | bob2: holycow has been alternating between telling people to not listen to me because i'm an asshat, and trying to take credit when I help someone |
| 04:29.35 | comm | defendguin_: search google for the model number |
| 04:29.57 | doublehp | comm: no /etc/rc2.d for you ... |
| 04:29.58 | bob2 | Justin: ah, business as usual then. |
| 04:30.08 | troubled | defendguin_: there is none that i know of unless you mean new DI |
| 04:30.12 | bob2 | Justin: hwo dare you spend your time helping people! |
| 04:30.29 | Justin | bob2: it's better than trying to figure out what an attribute grammar is |
| 04:30.44 | comm | doublehp: the name change from s to k means? s=start k=? |
| 04:30.51 | troubled | kill |
| 04:31.04 | bob2 | -HUP |
| 04:31.05 | doublehp | comm k for kill |
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| 04:31.28 | comm | thanks |
| 04:31.42 | erik | the racism in this channel is really bothersome. |
| 04:31.57 | troubled | ? |
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| 04:32.07 | rich_ | hi |
| 04:32.17 | bob2 | erik: huh? |
| 04:32.37 | Sickb0y | Has anyone tried to install mondo and mindi? mindi says it requires mindi-kernel but there is no package in debian called this. |
| 04:32.43 | doublehp | comm read /etc/init.d/README |
| 04:33.03 | comm | thakns |
| 04:33.12 | opti | hmm, I'm clearly listed in /etc/group yet when I run "groups" as the user it's not showing. How do I refresh that? |
| 04:33.15 | holycow | Sickb0y, i did, but i installed from source |
| 04:33.21 | troubled | logout |
| 04:33.26 | troubled | opti |
| 04:33.30 | doublehp | opti: logout and login |
| 04:33.41 | Sickb0y | holycow: maybe i'll try that as a last resort :( |
| 04:33.42 | opti | oh, I have to do that? Bummer |
| 04:33.43 | erik | actually the whole open source community seems racist |
| 04:33.53 | doublehp | opti: then check with "id" |
| 04:33.53 | holycow | *nod* its quite cool once you get it installed |
| 04:34.27 | Sickb0y | holycow: I was hoping to backup my linux install to a bootable dvd-r. Will mondo be able to do this do you know? |
| 04:34.30 | erik | i think that OSS should reach out more and embrace our fellow man |
| 04:34.36 | holycow | yes |
| 04:34.41 | rich_ | erik They seem racist? In what way? They favor certain classes? |
| 04:34.43 | Sickb0y | cooool |
| 04:34.45 | comm | doublehp: shouldn't it be kdm instead of xdm |
| 04:34.57 | erik | rich_: yes, the chinese and germans are shunned in open source |
| 04:35.01 | holycow | erik, there is a subculture of elitism here |
| 04:35.02 | Sickb0y | erik: stop trolling |
| 04:35.07 | doublehp | comm depends on your conf ... it might also be gdm ... |
| 04:35.13 | holycow | but it's not widespread |
| 04:35.16 | troubled | whatever you use comm |
| 04:35.19 | XeroShadow | hey guys, im having an issue, i just used the sarge buisness card cd to install debian, and it says it failed to install grub, so it ry LILO, same thing and im kinda stuck |
| 04:35.19 | erik | linux must forget the holocaust |
| 04:35.20 | doublehp | comm there are the three most common ones : xdm kdm gdm |
| 04:35.28 | holycow | what happens is that a few members are exceptionally vocal with the eilitist overtones |
| 04:35.28 | comm | doublehp: there all S |
| 04:35.30 | comm | :D |
| 04:35.33 | holycow | and it paints the rest in the same class |
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| 04:35.58 | rich_ | erik Thats strange I heard the germans dont find it racist. |
| 04:35.59 | holycow | erik, i would venture to say that if only a few members dissapeared for a while your view of a channel or open source would dramatically change |
| 04:36.11 | doublehp | comm when you want to restaure them, have a look at /etc/X11/default-display-manager ... |
| 04:36.15 | protoloco | Hey my postfix, How can i disable de rcpt , because people that is not from my server can send mails to root@domain.org ... |
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| 04:36.26 | holycow | but we like freedom, so all are welcome i guess *shrug* |
| 04:36.43 | Justin | protoloco: uh, thats kind of how email works |
| 04:36.49 | protoloco | Justin, :S ? |
| 04:36.51 | doublehp | comm or "dpkg-reconfigure xdm" |
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| 04:37.04 | holycow | erik, the odd thing is that this channel as difficult as it ofent seems is actually extremely tolerant |
| 04:37.05 | erik | holycow: it makes me confused ... microsoft hates my freedom but tolerates my race -- Linux values my contributions but prejudices my people |
| 04:37.05 | bob2 | erik: your trolling is lame |
| 04:37.14 | protoloco | Justin, somebody is sending mails to root, like gay@gay.com to --> root@mydomain.org |
| 04:37.18 | protoloco | with my MAIL |
| 04:37.20 | bob2 | erik: read www.spiralx.co.uk/trolls.html and come back later. |
| 04:37.25 | holycow | erik, *nod* strange isn't it? |
| 04:37.31 | erik | holycow: :-( |
| 04:37.48 | protoloco | Mar 23 22:29:56 linux postfix/smtpd[5576]: 3032A47DB: reject: RCPT from 168-226-134-209.speedy.com.ar[168.226.134.209]: 450 <jose>: User unknown in local recipient table; from=<sex@sex.com> to=<jose> proto=SMTP helo=<udg.mx> |
| 04:38.07 | Sickb0y | erik: maybe cause every so often your people go on a blood thirsty murderous rampage fairly consistantly |
| 04:38.21 | erik | Sickb0y: i am no kraut |
| 04:38.23 | mith | is there an easy way to get a list of all the packages installed that depend on a certain package and remove them with dpkg -r (without using apt!) |
| 04:38.23 | Justin | protoloco: it's called spam |
| 04:38.28 | Sickb0y | :) |
| 04:38.32 | doublehp | erik: I have been kicked for less ... |
| 04:38.40 | protoloco | Justin, no, because is a friend, doing that ... he told me,, Disable rcpt ... |
| 04:38.41 | rich_ | erik Thats a good thing. I heard they were racists. |
| 04:38.44 | erik | yes |
| 04:38.47 | erik | i am chinese |
| 04:38.47 | erik | -.- |
| 04:38.52 | protoloco | JAjaja |
| 04:38.53 | bob2 | mith: grep-dctrl could |
| 04:39.03 | troubled | erik: how can an OS be racist? |
| 04:39.10 | mith | No manual entry for grep-dctrl |
| 04:39.20 | bob2 | mith: you'd have to install it first |
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| 04:39.21 | mith | bob2: something that's installed by default. |
| 04:39.28 | harinath | mith: apt-cache depends and apt-cache rdepends |
| 04:39.32 | erik | troubled: sorry, i should have said that those who create linux are racists, not the OS itself ... though I fear that their racism has oozed into comments in its source code, or blueprints |
| 04:39.33 | mith | bob2: I can't apt is broken at the moment in a nice dependancy loop |
| 04:39.46 | gravity | erik: Go away |
| 04:39.47 | bob2 | mith: oh, god |
| 04:39.50 | Sickb0y | erik: by the way, MS doesnt repect your race necessarily, it respects your $$$ |
| 04:39.51 | bob2 | erik: stop trolling |
| 04:39.55 | bob2 | erik: you suck at this. |
| 04:40.01 | rich_ | erik Racist against the krauts? :) |
| 04:40.02 | troubled | he |
| 04:40.04 | holycow | erik, the human mind is feeble at best |
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| 04:40.06 | doublehp | erik: Linux just lacks some fonts and tools only because nobody wrote them _yet_ ... |
| 04:40.08 | holycow | just watch us here |
| 04:40.15 | mith | bob2: exactly. |
| 04:40.21 | dionysus | quick q: I know I can check specific packages on debian.org, but can anyone suggest a site that has a summary of the more 'important' packages (gcc, xfree, gnome, kde, glibc etc) and their versions for each debian version (stable, testing, unstable)? |
| 04:40.35 | erik | it is this kind of thinking that leveled the WTC |
| 04:40.44 | bob2 | mith: well, all the info is on /var/lib/dpkg/available, you could go nuts with awk |
| 04:40.49 | mith | harinath: is there a way to run it so it'll give me the rdepends for all of the packages that depend on it? heh this is going to be a nasty script |
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| 04:41.03 | troubled | bob2: i say we go with the three strike rule on this one ;) |
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| 04:41.23 | troubled | iwas roo late it seems heh |
