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| 00:00.11 | delvsional | My roomate installed the latest debian and when he boots it up with my wireless linksys router attached it disables the wireless for the other two computers on my network... this doesn't make any sense to either of us.. any ideas? |
| 00:00.12 | obake | damn |
| 00:00.19 | DarthPuff | i dont speak geek |
| 00:00.20 | obake | FieldySnuts: why did u tell me, now i'm excited too |
| 00:00.28 | FieldySnuts | obake: i know, that's hard to believe. if it lives up to that, hehe, everybody best watch out |
| 00:00.36 | obake | damn |
| 00:00.38 | obake | stop it |
| 00:00.43 | obake | i will explode |
| 00:00.47 | obake | lol |
| 00:00.54 | FieldySnuts | i'd like to try it too man. but i'll pass, don't need to lose anything over alpha/beta stuff heh |
| 00:00.56 | DarthPuff | please do |
| 00:01.01 | obake | hehe |
| 00:01.08 | User-es | but the main distributions do not have support to format XFS for primary partitions |
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| 00:01.31 | FieldySnuts | that will come, only recently was xfs native in the kernel, more recent 2.6 kernels no less |
| 00:01.45 | obake | obake: forget about reiser4, you can't have it (yet) |
| 00:01.50 | FieldySnuts | heh |
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| 00:02.10 | User-es | nobody of here has implemented coda never? |
| 00:02.29 | FieldySnuts | oh i have, and decided it had serious problems. i also tried intermezzo, which at this point is a joke. |
| 00:02.37 | FieldySnuts | i don't know of any alternatives, unfortunately |
| 00:02.44 | eeyore- | FieldySnuts: end up doing rsync, i take it? |
| 00:02.47 | FieldySnuts | yep |
| 00:02.51 | eeyore- | yep |
| 00:03.00 | FieldySnuts | not really a problem, but if you need realtime sync going, you're screwed |
| 00:03.13 | eeyore- | FieldySnuts: not really, you could kludge directory-notification |
| 00:03.16 | FieldySnuts | which is too fragile. |
| 00:03.27 | srbaker | fucking stupid epiphany can't use ufil.e |
| 00:03.29 | srbaker | ufile.ca |
| 00:03.31 | eeyore- | FieldySnuts: what is, directory notification? |
| 00:03.31 | User-es | no intermezzo it does not have packages DEBIAN |
| 00:03.32 | mross | before I leave, I guess I'll ask to see if any fresh eyes know the answer: How do I get CPU load, but not the CPU load average? I'm looking for something like a % cpu utilization... |
| 00:03.36 | FieldySnuts | eeyore-: no, nfs |
| 00:03.38 | DarthPuff | =\ are guys both forgeting about tortilla modification... |
| 00:03.52 | obake | mross: gaming? |
| 00:03.55 | FieldySnuts | though i haven't tried nfsv4, maybe i should |
| 00:03.56 | sussudio | DarthPuff: be quiet |
| 00:04.06 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: he's been trolling since yesterday, same old shit |
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| 00:04.07 | DarthPuff | get karamba |
| 00:04.11 | DarthPuff | not true |
| 00:04.13 | DarthPuff | i am helping now |
| 00:04.13 | FieldySnuts | !badger DarthPuff |
| 00:04.14 | dpkg | DarthPuff: BadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerMushroomMUSHROOMBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerSnaaaaaaaaakkeeeASnaaaaake |
| 00:04.15 | DarthPuff | get karmaba |
| 00:04.19 | DarthPuff | your using LOL |
| 00:04.23 | DarthPuff | your using debian |
| 00:04.30 | DarthPuff | so apt-get install karamba |
| 00:04.32 | DarthPuff | you need qt3 |
| 00:04.34 | obake | DarthPuff: once a jerk, always a jerk |
| 00:04.37 | DarthPuff | then goto www.kdelook.org |
| 00:04.42 | DarthPuff | i take it that your using kde |
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| 00:04.53 | DarthPuff | o_O and it will give you a nice cpu load read out |
| 00:04.59 | mross | Um... |
| 00:05.00 | FieldySnuts | i think i'll keep the resources, thanks |
| 00:05.09 | mross | Well... I want it from the conosle for a script... |
| 00:05.16 | DarthPuff | O_O super karamba messes up the transpeancy |
| 00:05.18 | mross | So, no... that' wouldn't work... Sm:)e. |
| 00:05.26 | DarthPuff | =P it does look cool |
| 00:05.31 | DarthPuff | think about it |
| 00:05.34 | FieldySnuts | mross: i bet you could pull something out of /proc/loadavg |
| 00:05.48 | FieldySnuts | mross: i'm not positive what each number is, though |
| 00:05.53 | mross | Yeah, the load AVERAGE... unfortunetly that's not waht I need. |
| 00:05.57 | eeyore- | FieldySnuts: actually, directory notification is a nifty kludge. you write to directory, you rsync it |
| 00:06.04 | DarthPuff | O_O or you could download karamba and look at its code |
| 00:06.07 | DarthPuff | open source remember |
| 00:06.10 | Justin | mross: vmstat |
| 00:06.10 | FieldySnuts | eeyore-: there's a fourth number in there, that might be the current, though it is in some other format |
| 00:06.14 | FieldySnuts | eeyore-: wrong person |
| 00:06.15 | mross | It's the average number of proccesses run every 1 minute, then 5 minutes, then 15 minutes... |
| 00:06.18 | FieldySnuts | mross: there's a fourth number in there, that might be the current, though it is in some other format |
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| 00:06.29 | FieldySnuts | actually, fourth and fifth |
| 00:06.43 | DarthPuff | mross: look at the source code |
| 00:06.49 | mross | hrm. |
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| 00:06.54 | FieldySnuts | hrm, i wonder how gkrellm calculates the load |
| 00:06.56 | eeyore- | aye caramba! |
| 00:06.58 | brc007 | is there a way to add a ; to the beginning of every line from the cursor to the end of a file? |
| 00:06.59 | DarthPuff | the |
| 00:07.04 | brc007 | whoops |
| 00:07.08 | brc007 | I meant in VI |
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| 00:07.18 | FieldySnuts | !start an editor war |
| 00:07.18 | dpkg | pico is known to repel members of the opposite sex |
| 00:07.22 | FieldySnuts | heh! |
| 00:07.23 | eeyore- | brc007: <range>s:^:;: |
| 00:07.23 | brc007 | haha |
| 00:07.26 | brc007 | thanks! |
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| 00:07.41 | mhall | LOL, for once the network fuckup wasn't the IT department's fault. Somebody over at Sprint decided to empty out the BGP cache. I guess they decided pacific.edu wasn't 133+ enough to be allowed on teh Intarweb. |
| 00:07.48 | DarthPuff | !badger |
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| 00:07.53 | g4lt | !lol |
| 00:07.54 | dpkg | hmm... lol is Laugh{s,ing} Out Loud. A laugh sound is not spelled "lol" nor is "lol" punctuation . If you want to quickly indicate that you're laughing, use "heh" or "haha" in the first person and "lol" or "is lol" in the third person ("/me"). |
| 00:07.55 | FieldySnuts | mhall: god. |
| 00:07.55 | eeyore- | mhall: nifty! |
| 00:07.57 | AndyG | Hi, is there a limit for bound ports on a linux machine ? |
| 00:07.58 | user | guys, which pppoe client would you recommend for debian? |
| 00:08.08 | eeyore- | mhall: whose ass got chewed for THAT one? |
| 00:08.10 | mhall | FieldySnuts If you think Comcast is bad... |
| 00:08.11 | FieldySnuts | mhall: of course, you'll be getting calls for the next few days, thinking it's your fault |
| 00:08.16 | FieldySnuts | mhall: oh I know there's far worse. |
| 00:08.31 | g4lt | AndyG 65536 |
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| 00:08.40 | mhall | eeyore- The networking director said it took an act of Congress to get them to fix it. |
| 00:08.47 | AndyG | g4lt: thx, thats enough (for now ;) |
| 00:08.52 | mhall | eeyore- In the mean time we had to use 8 T1's as a backup connection. |
| 00:08.58 | DarthPuff | you guys are probably the nerdiest and most boring people i have ever seen :) |
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| 00:09.02 | mhall | eeyore- It was pretty bad. |
| 00:09.03 | eeyore- | mhall: did you try to collect on the outage credit? |
| 00:09.08 | FieldySnuts | DarthPuff: that's what you get in a linux channel, jerky |
| 00:09.09 | sussudio | @ops |
| 00:09.10 | ravenbird | somebody said ops was Meet your friendly #debian operators: asuffield, bdale, bignose, bob2`, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, Hydroxide, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk |
| 00:09.11 | mhall | DarthPuff Thank you. Compliment accepted. |
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| 00:09.25 | DarthPuff | mhall: your welcome |
| 00:09.28 | mhall | eeyore- Well, that shouldn't be hard. We are a big customer with a lot of power. |
| 00:09.32 | FieldySnuts | !mhallsmite DarthPuff |
| 00:09.33 | dpkg | Fuck DarthPuff. Fuck it in the asshole with a big rubber dick. |
| 00:09.42 | mhall | !tell DarthPuff about sms-over-irc |
| 00:09.51 | FieldySnuts | sms over irc? hrm.. |
| 00:09.52 | ElectricElf | DarthPuff: Keep it on-topic if you don't mind? |
| 00:09.54 | mhall | DarthPuff Try "you're." :-) |
| 00:09.54 | DarthPuff | =\ ill take that as a compliment |
| 00:09.55 | eeyore- | ooh, i'm in the op list? |
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| 00:10.07 | ElectricElf | eeyore-: Errr ... only for months and months :) |
| 00:10.18 | DarthPuff | mhall... i expect you to use correct grammer and spelling |
| 00:10.19 | DarthPuff | from now on |
| 00:10.21 | DarthPuff | if you dont |
| 00:10.24 | DarthPuff | i will make fun of you |
| 00:10.25 | eeyore- | ElectricElf: i know that :-) i just didn't know my nick shows up in some list ... |
| 00:10.25 | mhall | FieldySnuts It's a factoid SlayerXP made when he got pissed at the bad typers. |
| 00:10.34 | ElectricElf | DarthPuff: *cough* topicness and such :) |
| 00:10.39 | FieldySnuts | mhall: heh i like it |
| 00:10.50 | user | what would you run to connect to adsl modem? |
| 00:10.57 | eeyore- | ElectricElf: didn't you give me ophood? |
| 00:10.58 | FieldySnuts | ifconfig? |
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| 00:11.08 | ElectricElf | eeyore-: Yeah. |
| 00:11.09 | mhall | DarthPuff Sorry to say, you don't do a very good job making fun of anybody, so if you did, I doubt I'd care. |
| 00:11.09 | g4lt | user Serial Cable |
| 00:11.12 | DarthPuff | ok ok fine topic ... so i have this computer right |
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| 00:11.24 | DarthPuff | and i cant install windows on it ... no wonder... windows blows... |
| 00:11.24 | DarthPuff | right |
| 00:11.25 | FieldySnuts | !trollsmite DarthPuff |
| 00:11.29 | ElectricElf | eeyore-: #debian's op list isn't hidden (for the obvious reasons), everybody can see it via "/msg chanserv access #debian list" |
| 00:11.30 | CompWizrd | onjoin scammer/spammer, zeus |
| 00:11.33 | DarthPuff | so i have to gut the computer evertime i install windows |
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| 00:11.34 | FieldySnuts | i don't mind trolls, just this one hits enter way too much |
| 00:11.36 | DarthPuff | more reason to hate it |
| 00:11.38 | DarthPuff | am i right |
| 00:11.43 | dondelelcaro | DarthPuff: stop overusing enter please. |
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| 00:11.47 | user | FieldySnuts: no, like daemon for PPPoE |
| 00:11.48 | *** mode/#debian [+o ElectricElf] by ChanServ |
| 00:11.49 | DarthPuff | ok |
| 00:11.52 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@dpc6682192001.direcpc.com] by ElectricElf |
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| 00:11.53 | *** mode/#debian [-o ElectricElf] by ChanServ |
| 00:11.53 | eeyore- | DarthPuff: what are you going on about? |
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| 00:12.03 | FieldySnuts | user: pppoe is what shitty isps use, i'll pass |
| 00:12.17 | FieldySnuts | zeus is onjoin spamming, indeed. |
| 00:12.23 | g4lt | DarthPuff tell us everything you know... |
| 00:12.25 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: at least it's not l2tp. |
| 00:12.26 | mhall | !tell DarthPuff about enter |
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| 00:12.37 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: or telia. |
| 00:12.37 | eeyore- | FieldySnuts: you want to pee over my what? |
| 00:12.41 | FieldySnuts | eeyore-: yes |
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| 00:12.48 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: l2tp as in the protocol. |
| 00:12.48 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@h0001022aede1.ne.client2.attbi.com] by dondelelcaro |
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| 00:12.52 | nkuttler | user: i user roaring penguin a long time ago |
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| 00:12.54 | FieldySnuts | thanks don |
| 00:12.58 | mhall | sussudio l2tp is a tricky protocol to deal with, yoiks |
| 00:13.01 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: oh jesus, i'd forgot about that |
| 00:13.04 | nkuttler | s/user/used/ |
| 00:13.08 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: you made me remember it, evil person |
| 00:13.17 | nkuttler | hm |
| 00:13.19 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: they're phasing it out now. i'm still stuck with it at the moment. |
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| 00:13.23 | FieldySnuts | lame |
| 00:13.28 | mhall | sussudio phasing out what? pppoe? |
| 00:13.32 | FieldySnuts | that's what you get for using compaq. |
| 00:13.35 | eeyore- | mhall: L2TP |
| 00:13.40 | mhall | eeyore- ah |
| 00:13.41 | FieldySnuts | karmic punishment |
| 00:13.44 | mhall | eeyore- Who was using it? |
| 00:13.46 | user | nkuttler: I'll give it a shot |
| 00:13.47 | obake | haha |
| 00:13.52 | user | nkuttler:Thanks |
| 00:13.57 | mhall | eeyore- I mean, it's great once you set it up, secure and such. |
| 00:13.59 | obake | FieldySnuts: i think some people here work at compaq |
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| 00:14.05 | FieldySnuts | obake: not my fault |
| 00:14.18 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: Badger/OS? |
| 00:14.19 | dpkg | methinks badger/os is a tool which lets sussudio accomplish various sales related tasks while working for Compaq |
| 00:14.22 | obake | ahahaha |
| 00:14.30 | dodgyville | I'm in the installer, how do I find out what network card I have? |
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| 00:14.37 | FieldySnuts | lspci? |
| 00:14.40 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:14.41 | eeyore- | mhall: i believe sussudio expressed some displeasure about it |
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| 00:15.24 | sussudio | eeyore-: it sucketh the balls and it also uses up to 15% cpu on my p166 :-| |
| 00:15.29 | FieldySnuts | yowser |
| 00:15.30 | xerom | how do i set up my mouse? x is complaining there is no /dev/mouse |
| 00:15.48 | FieldySnuts | renice 20 `pidof wtfeverl2lp` |
| 00:15.48 | mhall | sussudio if only you could get it to suck other stuff also, :-D |
| 00:15.49 | heath | Has anyone had a poblem linking to libglut and getting a whole bunch of undefined glX**** references? |
| 00:15.53 | sussudio | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.57 | don_ | m.. weird. when i copy some big files, or unpack them, my system kinda freezes for 1-2minutes. the HDled lights, and i can't even move the mouse anymore. any idea why this happens? |
| 00:16.07 | eeyore- | xerom: use the real device name |
| 00:16.15 | FieldySnuts | don_: using xfs? |
| 00:16.22 | brc007 | eeyore-: <range>s:^:;: as in 62-70s^:^;: ? it doesn't seem to work. I'm probably doing something wrong |
| 00:16.29 | mhall | don_ I bet that your hard disk has DMA disabled. |
| 00:16.32 | FieldySnuts | don_: do you have DMA on if you are using ide disks? |
| 00:16.42 | xerom | eeyore-, is it setup by default? |
| 00:16.46 | obake | sussudio: hmm, i still remember my first pc (pentium 100).. it was da best and da most expensive pc in the world, lol |
| 00:16.46 | mhall | don_ apt-get install hdparm, man hdparm, listen to FieldySnuts |
| 00:16.56 | mhall | !bitchslap FieldySnuts |
| 00:17.00 | don_ | FieldySnuts: i am using xfs, yes |
| 00:17.04 | FieldySnuts | hdparm -d 1 /dev/whatever , and *watch kernel logs* for controller errors |
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| 00:17.17 | obake | now intel is releasing their prescott shit |
| 00:17.18 | sussudio | obake: bah. my first PC had turbo (8mhz) |
| 00:17.19 | FieldySnuts | don_: i think you can set xfs options to not use such a huge in-memory cache. |
| 00:17.28 | FieldySnuts | don_: also check the dma stuff if you're using ide |
| 00:17.29 | obake | sussudio: haha :D old guy |
| 00:17.42 | don_ | mayve it's really the dma stuff. i will check it. tx! |
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| 00:17.53 | FieldySnuts | don_: i think what's happening is it's using a massive memory cache, and when it gets full it makes everything else stop while it writes it as fast as it can. xfs is very agressive at that. |
| 00:17.55 | mhall | sussudio wait a sec, most PCs, 8 mhz was the non-turbo speed for broken ISA cards |
| 00:17.58 | mhall | sussudio wtf? |
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| 00:18.11 | sussudio | mhall: 4.77/8Mhz NEC V20 |
| 00:18.18 | eeyore- | hdparm -c3 -d1 /dev/... |
| 00:18.23 | mhall | FieldySnuts i didn't have that problem with it |
| 00:18.26 | eeyore- | isn't the -c3 flag recommended? |
| 00:18.37 | FieldySnuts | mhall: if you've got balls-slow disks/bus/etc/busted hardware, i bet it could happen |
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| 00:18.40 | mhall | FieldySnuts sort of a funny caching system, probably meant for SCSI arrays |
| 00:18.47 | FieldySnuts | it is |
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| 00:18.49 | silas | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.49 | obake | i broke the turbo button from my p100... |
| 00:18.51 | mun3 | can someone tell me the easiest way to access files over a network on a fellow linux computer? |
| 00:18.52 | FieldySnuts | it's also meant for RAID arrays |
| 00:18.56 | eeyore- | FWIW i just hacked our tivo last night ... upgraded the failing drive with a 160GB. got 198 hours from it :-D |
| 00:18.58 | FieldySnuts | raid 1/5 |