| 00:00.13 | peterS | Willgott: yes. and there is a *reason* it has not ever been implemented so far. several reasons, which EE and I tried to tell you about |
| 00:00.13 | cafuego | There we go. |
| 00:00.18 | peterS | Willgott: so if you think you can overcome these reasons, the best way to proceed is with a proof of concept |
| 00:00.22 | Willgott | Well, thank you for this discussion. It has been enlightning. |
| 00:00.24 | skippy | or alternatively, how command in vim do you use to find and replace all? |
| 00:00.25 | Willgott | peterS: mm |
| 00:00.30 | cafuego | Maybe I should just rip this bastard out and use the G450 again. |
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| 00:00.35 | skippy | how = what |
| 00:00.36 | helix | skippy: :%s/blah/bar/g |
| 00:00.37 | cafuego | yes, i will. |
| 00:00.43 | skippy | helix: thanks |
| 00:00.49 | yorkb | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:00.55 | Willgott | peterS: But I want to discuss this first before I engage myself in a large study as I previously stated |
| 00:00.59 | zyrnix | skippy: :%s/^/string/ |
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| 00:01.27 | peterS | Willgott: well - it's been discussed before. EE and I tried to sum up the reasons not to bother with a big database. if you want more, mailing lists have archives and google is pretty good at searching them (: |
| 00:01.35 | Sidicas | yorkb: Wow, that's a good question.. I have the same problem :-) |
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| 00:02.14 | timzter | the jakarta.apache.org web site is really confusing. I followed the links to the download source code at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/sourceindex.cgi. But I dont see the source code for apache1.3 in there! |
| 00:02.42 | deadcat | cafuego: i cant do this with loop-aes right? : losetup -e aes256 -S xxxxxxxxxx /dev/loop0 /encrypted.fs |
| 00:03.11 | yorkb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:03.39 | daniett | spoopin thanks it works! |
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| 00:04.13 | s-king | yorkb, credentials= |
| 00:04.31 | Willgott | peterS: All concepts can have bad implementations. When it comes to .conf-databases, the windows-reg is one of them. Humans can edit it for example. gconf has it drawbacks as well, mostly consisting of the fact that it's bloated and heavily connected to GNOME. We can learn from their failures and try to improve upon them. Sooner or later the current .conf-system will have to be replaced, but with what? An improved database-solution may be the a |
| 00:04.31 | Willgott | nswer. If people never raises this question we will never gain any new ground. |
| 00:05.06 | Sidicas | Willgott: I think we're all just about tired of hearing about your database ideas :-> |
| 00:05.21 | peterS | Willgott: rest assured, people raise the question. I am not convinced, btw, that "sooner or later the current .conf-system will have to be replaced", in any case |
| 00:05.23 | Willgott | Sidicas: Yeah, my mouth is too big :) |
| 00:05.36 | Willgott | Sidicas: I should go the bed now anyway (2 AM here) |
| 00:05.38 | greycat | peterS: at least he didn't say XML. |
| 00:05.38 | tremere | is there a way to draw diagonal lines in gimp, that are straight in nature and not jagged-looking? |
| 00:05.50 | sparr | cafuego: which log do I need to look at? /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status shows everything working the way it should be (8x, no fast writes) |
| 00:05.51 | peterS | greycat: hey, point. but he said gconf, which currently implies that, right? |
| 00:05.57 | Willgott | Thanks for the discussion and the good distro! |
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| 00:06.05 | greycat | peterS: I don't know what gconf looks like, other than the fact that it's fuckin' HUGE> |
| 00:06.13 | Arkaine | how about just an app that knows where all the conf files are and creates symbolic links to them? :) |
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| 00:06.17 | helix | greycat: it's kind of a nightmare, imo |
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| 00:06.23 | phlak | /usr/bin/ld: cannont find -lX11 - whats wrong? |
| 00:06.25 | peterS | greycat: I think in theory you can have pluggable backends, but the only one people use is XML-based |
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| 00:06.35 | greycat | helix: all I know is I had to move it off my root FS on goblin, because it's too big |
| 00:06.44 | greycat | phlak: xlibs-dev |
| 00:06.45 | helix | yeah, it blows |
| 00:06.57 | phlak | greycat: allready installed |
| 00:06.59 | peterS | greycat: moving conf files off your root filesystem. what a wonderful system, which forces you to do *that* |
| 00:07.08 | greycat | phlak: -L/usr/X11R6/lib in your makefile's link command, then |
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| 00:08.55 | sgeigerbot | Is there a rumor that Adobe decided to stop producing software for Macintosh? |
| 00:09.01 | sgeigerbot | ...and, is it true? |
| 00:09.12 | greycat | Just out of curiosity, what sort of spider software does this, and what's the purpose of it? |
| 00:09.15 | greycat | 68.228.50.75 - - [04/Apr/2004:20:08:35 -0400] "GET /music/Dada/?N=D HTTP/1.1" 200 2352 |
| 00:09.18 | greycat | 68.228.50.75 - - [04/Apr/2004:20:08:36 -0400] "GET /music/Dada/?S=A HTTP/1.1" 200 2352 |
| 00:09.55 | Arkaine | that would seem kinda silly...that's all macintosh is good for :) |
| 00:10.07 | greycat | Arkaine: you can install Debian on most of them |
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| 00:10.12 | Arkaine | video editing and imaging |
| 00:10.17 | sgeigerbot | greycat: Sounds googlible. If you find something, let me know. I'm very curious. |
| 00:10.47 | phlak | greycat: new error:/tmp/cckHTEIL.o(.text.bla bla in function Getkeystroks |
| 00:10.56 | Arkaine | cool |
| 00:11.00 | sgeigerbot | Arkaine: Besides being able to install free OSs, Mac is good for many, many things these days, and I bet that has M$ worried. |
| 00:11.17 | Crimson | No games though, I like my unreal2004 |
| 00:11.18 | sgeigerbot | Arkaine: consequently, perhaps M$ cut a deal with Adobe. That was my first thought, at least. |
| 00:11.19 | Crimson | I LIKE IT |
| 00:11.33 | Arkaine | makes sense |
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| 00:11.42 | greycat | phlak: we need exact errors |
| 00:11.43 | Arkaine | they like doing that |
| 00:11.59 | Arkaine | silly ms |
| 00:12.28 | greycat | sgeigerbot: Grrr!! Google keeps stripping out the "=" sign. So it gives me results that have "N" and "D" in them. Not very useful. |
| 00:12.47 | troubled | greycat: try " it? |
| 00:12.57 | greycat | troubled: did that, of course. |
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| 00:13.02 | Arkaine | yeah, i hate how it strips some non-alphanumerics |
| 00:13.06 | peterS | greycat: those are just links from the apache default generated index page, right? |
| 00:13.24 | cafuego | hrrm |
| 00:13.28 | greycat | peterS: yes |
| 00:13.47 | greycat | peterS: or rather, the *directories* are. I have no clue what "?N=D" means. |
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| 00:14.03 | peterS | greycat: different views of the directory. they are links on the apache-generated index |
| 00:14.16 | peterS | greycat: sort order, I believe |
| 00:14.17 | greycat | peterS: whatever spider this is, it hits each directory four times: once with"?M=A", then "?N=D", then "?S=A", then "?D=A". |
| 00:14.17 | FieldySnuts | ?N=D tells apache's index generator to sort, not sure by what |
| 00:14.19 | sgeigerbot | greycat: can you slashify the = ? Hmmm..might be a time to try another search engine. |
| 00:14.20 | FieldySnuts | you can leave it out |
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| 00:14.44 | peterS | greycat: yeah, those links *do* exist on the index page, so the spider doesn't know enough apache-fu to know it should ignore them |
| 00:16.05 | greycat | peterS: ah. I see now. |
| 00:16.23 | sgeigerbot | Why would I get "-bash: !`pwd`}: event not found" from PS1="{`whoami`@`hostname | sed 's/\..*//'`:!`pwd`} " |
| 00:16.31 | greycat | sgeigerbot: set +o histexpand |
| 00:16.46 | tcsetattr | sgeigerbot, backslash the ! |
| 00:17.16 | greycat | tcsetattr: actually, that won't work inside double quotes. |
| 00:17.27 | greycat | tcsetattr: I filed a bug report on that, and it was touted as a "feature". |
| 00:17.44 | mwilson | http://members.cox.net/msw/ss/ss04041710.png |
| 00:17.46 | mwilson | ack |
| 00:18.09 | tcsetattr | worked for me |
| 00:18.23 | fleet | mwilson: better a mouse than your monkey |
| 00:18.31 | troubled | but the ! wasnt in 's in this case |
| 00:19.06 | greycat | tcsetattr: really? Turn histexpand back on (it's on by default) and do: echo "hello world\!" |
| 00:19.16 | greycat | griffon:~$ echo "hello world\!" |
| 00:19.17 | greycat | hello world\! |
| 00:19.21 | FieldySnuts | !lart me |
| 00:19.44 | FieldySnuts | did a bot respond to that, or am i crazy? |
| 00:19.52 | tcsetattr | hmm, well I use zsh so I don't know about the bash crap. But in bash, I did PS1="foo\!bar" and it did not error |
| 00:20.14 | FieldySnuts | !lart test |
| 00:20.23 | FieldySnuts | what the heck |
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| 00:20.25 | greycat | actually, the "\!" gives the same results with or without histexpand, but "!" does not. |
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| 00:20.39 | sgeigerbot | Why isn't this automatically updating the directory displayed when I change directories? PS1="{`pwd`:\!} " |
| 00:20.47 | FieldySnuts | i have ctcp, dcc and invites from *!*@* ignored, and for some reason that covers dpkg reacting to !lart |
| 00:20.48 | FieldySnuts | weird |
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| 00:21.05 | greycat | sgeigerbot: because you want PS1='{$PWD:!} ' |
| 00:21.05 | PasDNick | because it's a ctcp action ? |
| 00:21.17 | FieldySnuts | clearly it's not, it's just a /me |
| 00:21.19 | troubled | sgeigerbot: \w is working dir already is it not? |
| 00:21.19 | tcsetattr | sgeigerbot, because the pwd is evaluated in your variable assignment. PS1 doesn't get the backquotes. |
| 00:21.30 | FieldySnuts | somebody do a /me blah for me |
| 00:21.34 | tcsetattr | if you use zsh, you can put %/ in the PS1 variable for showing the current directory |
| 00:21.35 | FieldySnuts | and tell me when you have |
| 00:21.44 | sgeigerbot | troubled: I'm more troubled than you. No idea. |
| 00:21.54 | FieldySnuts | hehe hi sgeigerbot |
| 00:21.55 | tcsetattr | FieldySnuts, /me is CTCP ACTION |
| 00:22.07 | troubled | sgeigerbot: i mean, \w in PS1 is same as `pwd` |
| 00:22.09 | FieldySnuts | you're kidding, i had no idea |
| 00:22.28 | FieldySnuts | makes sense then. |
| 00:22.35 | tcsetattr | yeah, /me does something is like PRIVMSG #debian ^AACTION does something^A |
| 00:22.35 | troubled | sgeigerbot: just curious why you wanted `pwd` instead of \w |
| 00:22.37 | sgeigerbot | /etc/init.d/troubled restart |
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| 00:22.45 | FieldySnuts | i see. |
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| 00:22.48 | spifff | FieldySnuts: /me is a ctcp ACTION |
| 00:22.48 | troubled | :) |
| 00:22.59 | cafuego | ere we go, G450 with glx. |
| 00:23.06 | sgeigerbot | troubled: I'm trying it on freebsd....and I'm trying examples froma book |
| 00:23.09 | FieldySnuts | bleh |
| 00:23.21 | tcsetattr | /me has no support in the irc protocol, it's purely a client extension :) |
| 00:23.25 | troubled | sgeigerbot: take it to |
| 00:23.32 | troubled | sgeigerbot: take it to #freebsd ;) |
| 00:23.47 | greycat | sgeigerbot: \w is a bash thing. |
| 00:23.51 | greycat | sgeigerbot: but '$PWD' works in ksh/bash |
| 00:24.09 | FieldySnuts | nee |
| 00:24.29 | troubled | wouldnt it be `echo $PWD`? |
| 00:24.56 | greycat | troubled: maybe you want echo $(pwd) >/tmp/foo && cat /tmp/foo # ;-) |
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| 00:25.02 | troubled | :) |
| 00:25.28 | greycat | troubled: PS1='$PWD> ' works in ksh or bash |
| 00:25.39 | greycat | note the *single* quotes around the $PWD |
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| 00:26.30 | FieldySnuts | !start a shell war |
| 00:26.30 | dpkg | bash is better than posh |
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| 00:28.16 | tremere | is there a way to draw straight lines diagonally, using Gimp? |
| 00:28.47 | obake | posh? |
| 00:28.49 | troubled | hmmm |
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| 00:28.53 | obake | !+info posh |
| 00:28.58 | dpkg | posh: (Policy-compliant Ordinary SHell), section shells, is optional. Version: 0.2.39 (sid), Packaged size: 75 kB, Installed size: 200 kB |
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| 00:29.20 | greycat | tremere: rotate your monitor 45 degrees |
| 00:29.22 | troubled | tremere: do you mean "diagonal lines"? After all, line typically assumes straightness :) |
| 00:29.34 | tremere | troubled, oops, yeah :) |
| 00:30.02 | richiew | I'm attempting to compile a custom kernel, and I keep getting an error about Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0), and the root= option and everything is pointing to the right partition. Also, when I compiled the kernel, no initrd file was created, and I think that might be the problem, I'm not sure. |
| 00:30.14 | _phoenix_ | is there any way to get from a knoppix install back to debian stable? |
| 00:30.17 | troubled | tremere: for a minute there I thought that you were sent from the Department of Redundancy Dept. |
| 00:30.26 | mwilson | gods, doesn't ANYONE ever check to see if a bug is already filed? |
| 00:30.39 | troubled | mwilson: just you |
| 00:30.46 | greycat | troubled: I do... |
| 00:30.55 | mwilson | troubled: Apparently. |
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| 00:31.10 | z36ra | mwilson: why on earth would you do that? |
| 00:31.13 | mwilson | troubled: Certainly most of the stupids using unstable don't. |
| 00:31.16 | idnarhtim | mwilson: but why would we do that when we can blatantly ignore the BTS, and annoy you to death? |
| 00:31.51 | troubled | mwilson: :) That would be too hard. Easier just to file duplicate entries and let someone else sort it out. Kinda like the patent office :) |
| 00:31.55 | mwilson | idnarhtim: It doesn't annoy me... it just adds confirmation to what I believe about most people. |
| 00:32.03 | idnarhtim | mwilson: heh |
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| 00:32.33 | z36ra | troubled; i agree, lets just throw trash in the parking lot for the porter to pick up. |
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| 00:33.04 | tome | does anyone have any idea when evolution 1.4.6 may get into testing? |
| 00:33.06 | troubled | mwilson: I swear, I want you as my CO if I ever join the army! |
| 00:33.21 | mwilson | troubled: Oh? Why? |
| 00:33.47 | abrotman | tome: its not old enough right now |
| 00:34.05 | sub_pop | does anyone know how to remove the "Debian Menu" entirely from the gnome menu? |
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| 00:34.11 | troubled | mwilson: just the kind of guy I would trust decisions from since they make sense often |
| 00:34.33 | greycat | tome: /msg dpkg testing excuses |
| 00:34.44 | troubled | mwilson: seem to put more effort into the little things that others dont at least when it comes to policy |
| 00:34.48 | _phoenix_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.50 | mwilson | tome: Evocrap will migrate to testing when all the conditions preventing it are gone. |
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| 00:35.05 | Caveman- | anyone know why kde sys guard does not show any processes when i open it ?? |
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| 00:35.26 | BikiniKill | PAM question: in my /etc/pam.d/login, ssh, and passwd files I'm using cracklib, which works to prevent people from setting dictionary words as passwords and such. However, it seems to be completely ignoring the options dcredit=-2 lcredit=-1 ucredit=-1 that I'm trying to use to require digits + upper case + lowercase in passwords. Any suggestions? |
| 00:35.30 | Shayde | 'lo folks anyonje had problems with Xine with debian-testing? i can get 'aaxine' to play an mpg, but in a graphic window it doesn't work at all. just a corrupted box ;( |
| 00:36.03 | everton | what is the command to extract a pre-installation script from a binary .deb file? |
| 00:36.05 | troubled | mwilson: besides, you and a few others in here are the type of guys that RTFM BEFORE they ask questions, not after. |
| 00:36.06 | tome | abrotman: greycat: mwilson: thanks, doesn't sound like "any day now." |
| 00:36.38 | Sidicas | Caveman-: I've had this problem before... Usually I can fix it by killing a program that went wild... |
| 00:36.49 | sgeigerbot | everton: dpkg -x <-- extract the files of a deb without installing it |
| 00:36.59 | troubled | !dict competency |
| 00:37.02 | dpkg | Dictionary 'competency' (3 shown; 7 total): the quality of being adequately or well qualified physically and intellectually ;; Reason's whole pleasure, all the joys of sense, Lie in three words -- health, peace, and competence. --Pope. ;; Competence \Com"pe*tence\, Competency \Com"pe*ten*cy\, n. [Cf. F. comp['e]tence, from L. competentia agreement.] 1. The state of being competent; fitness; ability; adequacy; power.. |
| 00:37.03 | Sidicas | Caveman-: Make sure ksysguardd is running in the background.. |
| 00:37.22 | tome | abrotman: greycat: mwilson: ah that testing excuses is a great page! thanks. |
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| 00:37.25 | Caveman- | Sidicas: yeah I normal just use killall.. but ksysguard is neat :) |
| 00:37.30 | Caveman- | Ok I will try that |
| 00:37.40 | smacnay | .part |
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| 00:38.32 | tome | Shayde: I've seen that in the past and had to switch my video codec in xine to x11. |
| 00:38.43 | Caveman- | Sidicas: nope.. |
| 00:38.47 | Caveman- | that did not fix it either.. |
| 00:38.56 | Caveman- | DOes it need to be running as root ? |
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| 00:39.18 | some-guy | I was curious if there is anyone here sucessfuly running udev with a /dev/fd0 entry? |
| 00:39.26 | Shayde | aha. tome, cool, i'm fiddling with xine configs now... this is the frist time i've run it. |
| 00:39.37 | cafuego | some-guy: I would be if I had a floppy drive <heh> |
| 00:39.49 | Sidicas | Caveman-: Nope.. Hmm.. Do you have any runaway processes going? |
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| 00:40.05 | some-guy | udev appers to be great, but I am missing an entry for fd0 |
| 00:40.06 | Shayde | tome: okay, is there an easy way to do that? :) |
| 00:40.18 | z36ra | cafuego: you can have one of my floppy drives |
| 00:40.20 | some-guy | on two totally different machines, and I have not seen any bug reports about it |
| 00:40.27 | cafuego | Sidicas/Caveman-: KDE has a'runaway process catcher' as well for that purpose. |
| 00:40.40 | some-guy | and I would assume if there was something as big as no floppy others would have noticed and make bug reports |
| 00:40.59 | tome | Shayde: let me see.. |
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| 00:41.33 | everton | sgeigerbot thanks, but i was looking for dpkg -e (extract control files) |
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| 00:42.09 | dehgenog | awe this is beautiful doing dist-upgrade on a knoppix hd-isntall now |
| 00:42.15 | tome | Shayde: right now it's working for me with xshm driver (right click on xine gui, setting, setup, video tab, "video driver to use" |
| 00:42.16 | obake | hmmmm |
| 00:42.18 | obake | gnome 2.6 rocks |
| 00:42.22 | Caveman- | I think its a problem with where ksysguard is installed on debian |
| 00:42.33 | x|e | is there a way to limit processes seen in a ps -aux by a regular user? this way they can only see what they are using? |
| 00:42.37 | Shayde | okay, i can also do that from the comman dline, sec. |
| 00:42.38 | Sidicas | Caveman-: Has it ever worked for you in the past? |
| 00:42.40 | some-guy | also does anyone know of a way to install debian onto a sata drive off a msi k8t neo motherboard? |
| 00:42.43 | Caveman- | Sidicas: nope.. |
| 00:42.47 | dehgenog | does it obake? are there deb packages yet |
| 00:42.52 | some-guy | it would apper di does not see it |
| 00:42.57 | mechan0r | i've downloaded some kernel-patches now how do I actually apply them |
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| 00:42.58 | some-guy | neither do the bootfloppies |
| 00:43.07 | Shayde | YAY! |
| 00:43.20 | some-guy | I had to resort to kanotix |
| 00:43.37 | mechan0r | the file dialog in 2.6 sux |
| 00:43.44 | gabaod | im trying to ssh to another debian box, and the last thing it does is debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP, and it just hangs.. any ideas? |
| 00:44.49 | Ecnassianer | gabaod: can you SSH to a different box? |
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| 00:44.56 | tome | Shayde: sounds like good news, glad that worked |
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| 00:45.09 | Caveman- | anyone have ksysguard working ? in debian |
| 00:45.09 | exobyte | is there a way to load a new kernel without restarting? |
| 00:45.18 | mechan0r | i've downloaded some kernel-patches now how do I actually apply them |
| 00:45.19 | greycat | exobyte: UML |
| 00:45.31 | Shayde | heh. sorry, yes it's working. i'm not sure if tihs'll let me run videos in large screen (doesn't look like it), but i'll keep fiddling. thanks for the pointer! |
| 00:45.33 | greycat | mechan0r: what's a "file dialog"? |
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| 00:45.40 | gabaod | Ecnassianer: yes, its just one box that im having probs with atm |
| 00:45.55 | some-guy | greycat: I assume he means gnome 2.6 |
| 00:46.00 | Ecnassianer | gabaod: seems like the problem is on the "other box" |
| 00:46.28 | sgeigerbot | greycat: did you get your googling done? |
| 00:46.31 | Ecnassianer | gabaod: Check to see if sshd is set up right on the "other box" |
| 00:46.34 | greycat | some-guy: then why's he asking aboutkernel patches? |
| 00:46.35 | gabaod | ecnassianer: i know that, hence why im asking what could possibly be causing that on the other box. |
| 00:46.35 | Ecnassianer | And running |
| 00:46.37 | everton | i'm getting "subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 10" while upgrading from xfree86 4.1.0 to 4.3.0, any idea? |
| 00:46.37 | mechan0r | file requester |
| 00:46.40 | greycat | sgeigerbot: peterS named the answer. |
| 00:46.50 | Ecnassianer | Oh, I thought you were asking about your box. :-) |
| 00:46.53 | greycat | everton: find the *first* error |
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| 00:46.54 | some-guy | does anyone know if there is an irc channel for udev? |
| 00:47.04 | greycat | some-guy: #linuxhelp |
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| 00:47.27 | sgeigerbot | greycat: ahhh...that's interesting. |
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| 00:47.48 | guardian653 | anyone here install gnome 2.6? |
| 00:47.54 | greycat | no. |
| 00:47.54 | obake | guardian653: $me |
| 00:47.58 | mechan0r | nope I don't mean gnome I mean kernel-patches |
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| 00:48.20 | guardian653 | obake: what packages did you install with apt-get? |
| 00:48.29 | mindcruft | I have a quick question |
| 00:48.38 | mindcruft | can anyone help me with a bash script? |
| 00:48.40 | S0mac- | How do I boot to my debian on hda6 using the boot.bin bootdisk? |
| 00:49.04 | greycat | !tell mindcruft about ask |
| 00:49.08 | obake | guardian653: a lot |
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| 00:49.12 | obake | guardian653: dcc? |
| 00:49.21 | EruditeHermit | hey is there a way to burn more than one session in cdrw? |
| 00:49.23 | Sidicas | Caveman-: Hmm.. try ksysguardd -d :-) |
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| 00:49.35 | Fire | Hi |
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| 00:49.40 | Fire | I need help :-( |
| 00:49.43 | guardian653 | obake: dcc? |
| 00:49.57 | obake | guardian653: wait |
| 00:50.04 | abrotman | !tell Fire about ask |
| 00:50.08 | everton | greycat: you mean this one: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" ? |
| 00:50.23 | obake | guardian653: http://200.18.226.226:8080/gnome26.sh |
| 00:50.25 | Fire | ok, ok |
| 00:50.35 | tome | mindcruft: what's up? |
| 00:50.58 | greycat | everton: Imagine for a moment that *you* were in our position, trying to answer a question. And a newbie came in and said "My program died!! It says 'Foo returned error code 1.'" |
| 00:51.02 | greycat | everton: how would *you* react? |
| 00:51.05 | mindcruft | I have a plain text file and I am writing a bash script that will pull a line out of that file and I need to make the line into 2 variables |
| 00:51.11 | x|e | anyone know how to hide a ps -aux from a regular user so they may not see all processes running, just their own processes? |
| 00:51.20 | Fire | I just edited my httpd.conf in the apache2 directory because of adding php4 compatibilty to apache, then i saved it. But now, the file is empty. Why? |
| 00:51.23 | mindcruft | the file is formatted name password |
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| 00:51.33 | Caveman- | Sidicas: I did.. its still not working.. |
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| 00:51.40 | mindcruft | so I need to make name one variable and password another |
| 00:51.40 | Caveman- | maybe I need to start that BEFORE I start KDE.. |
| 00:51.41 | greycat | mindcruft: which line? how do you know? |
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| 00:52.03 | Aie | i have a strange problem... i'd like some suggestion for a path to follow to discover the source of my problem (tanks): i set up a ppp server (the best i could, but obviously not working ok yet) on a linux/debian/sarge box. When i call the line to connect to it, the modem answer ok (with mgetty), i can even see the login/password prompt if i look at the console, but as soon as the login is accepted, the whole server crash! (the account got |
| 00:52.29 | mindcruft | grey: I am grepping the file and it comes up with the line which is : name password |
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| 00:52.51 | obake | guardian653: worked? |
| 00:52.54 | Fire | The answer is really important. It decides if i live or die.. |
| 00:52.55 | greycat | mindcruft: set -- $(grep whatever myfile); name=$1; password=$2 |
| 00:53.04 | tome | mindcruft: check out http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=716493758+1081126333744+28353475&threadId=78466 |
| 00:53.06 | abrotman | Fire: you die :) |
| 00:53.15 | abrotman | Fire: maybe look in /tmp for a temp file? |
| 00:53.23 | greycat | Fire: disk filled up before you tried to save? |
| 00:53.27 | mechan0r | so how do I apply the patches in the /usr/src/kernel-patches/directory |
| 00:53.28 | Fire | It's strange. |
| 00:53.33 | Fire | grey: no |
| 00:53.56 | Fire | it isnt there, abrotman |
| 00:53.59 | Vinland | Where might someone find some free ntp servers to sync with? |
| 00:54.05 | greycat | Vinland: /msg dpkg ntp |
| 00:54.30 | mindcruft | greycat: it isnt always just name password, they change depending on the input so it could be server1 password2 or it could be server2 password3 |
| 00:54.39 | everton | greycat i'm trying to 'apt-get install xserver-xfree86', but the thing fails with a couple of dpkg errors, googleing for them did not help me, i was just seeking suggestions, sorry |
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| 00:54.44 | guardian653 | obake: she's downloading files |
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| 00:54.57 | knoppix_ | can someone help me with an apt-get issue? I tried to apt-get install a package (r-recommended) but that would require overwriting another file, and so I want to tell apt-get to stop trying to install, as now I cannot apt-get anything--It returns the problem with r-reccommeded. Thanks. |
| 00:55.07 | mindcruft | thanks for the link tome |
| 00:55.16 | obake | guardian653: she? :P. I think it's all you need.. at least to *run* gnome 2.6 |
| 00:55.23 | Fire | grey: helpppp :) |
| 00:55.31 | tome | mindcruft: btw: this google answer brought to you by the words: sed parse passed file |
| 00:55.32 | dondelelcaro | knoppix_: so either apt-get remove r-recommended, or isntall it using --force-overwrite |
| 00:55.40 | tome | oops passwd |
| 00:55.42 | dondelelcaro | knoppix_: paste the complete error into #flood |
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| 00:56.28 | greycat | Fire: still have your editor open with the file in buffer? Save again elsewhere. |
| 00:56.55 | Fire | no grey, don't have it in buffer |
| 00:56.58 | kDAVER | O.K. I allready configure exim |
| 00:57.02 | greycat | mindcruft: well, the same concept works no matter what you name the variables |
| 00:57.16 | Shayde | *digs around to find out how to get xine to read a normal 'encrypted' dvd. docs say something like install libdvdcss, but that doesn't seem to exist? |
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| 00:57.37 | kDAVER | but now, when I run sendmail it send the following error: neither action flags nor mail addresses given |
| 00:57.37 | joesmack | where can i read about making deb packages from source? |
| 00:57.56 | alec | Shayde, Debian can't legally distribute it - you'll need to get it from another repository - let me check to see where I got mine from |
| 00:57.58 | tcsetattr | kdaver, try /etc/init.d/exim start |
| 00:58.01 | dondelelcaro | knoppix_: additionally, that bug in r-recommended (#235891) was fixed quite a while ago... |
| 00:58.06 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 235891 |
| 00:58.08 | dpkg | DONE:#235891:S[r-base] r-base-html and r-base-latex need to conflict with r-recommended (<= 1.8.1-2) |
| 00:58.19 | knoppix_ | I just pasted the error thanks |
| 00:58.41 | abrotman | joesmack: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
| 00:58.47 | joesmack | thanks |
| 00:58.49 | dondelelcaro | knoppix_: so run apt-get -f install and paste the errors into #flood |
| 00:59.04 | alec | Shayde, may I message the apt sources to you? |
| 00:59.10 | bob2 | that looks like general knoppix suckage |
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| 00:59.22 | sgeigerbot | !lart bob2 |
| 00:59.30 | mindcruft | thanks greycat, I understand now |
| 00:59.53 | sgeigerbot | dondelelcaro: :-) |
| 01:00.07 | dehgenog | I'm doign full dist-upgrade on a knoppix hd-install now. so far no proibs |
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| 01:00.40 | helix | ohgoodgreif: itym 'grief' |
| 01:00.42 | EvilDead` | hello |
| 01:00.47 | helix | unless that's your last name or something :) |
| 01:00.48 | gabaod | how do you tell which device is using irq 7 ? |
| 01:01.12 | knoppix_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.20 | EvilDead` | I have a brief question |
| 01:01.28 | ohgoodgreif | helix: pardon? |
| 01:01.29 | EvilDead` | in relation to NKoppix 3.3 |
| 01:01.34 | tcsetattr | gabaod, cat /proc/interrupts |
| 01:01.35 | greycat | gabaod: cat /proc/interrupts |
| 01:01.36 | EvilDead` | Knoppix 3.3 |
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| 01:01.42 | EvilDead` | and ATI drivers |
| 01:01.46 | bob2 | EvilDead`: then #knoppix |
| 01:01.51 | ohgoodgreif | helix: oh, typo- ya i'ts kinda ma trademark |
| 01:01.54 | dondelelcaro | knoppix_: so run dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/r-recommended_1.8.1-2_i386.deb |
| 01:01.57 | bob2 | EvilDead`: since this is obviously not the place to ask. |
| 01:01.58 | zignig | helix: blehlo |
| 01:02.08 | helix | zignig: blehola |
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| 01:02.11 | zignig | :) |
| 01:02.12 | EvilDead` | and why not |
| 01:02.17 | gabaod | hmm. i dont see anything using irq7, but receiving this. spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7. |
| 01:02.23 | EvilDead` | knoppix is debian based |
| 01:02.27 | dondelelcaro | knoppix_: and use reportbug to file a serious bug against r-recommended with the output that you pasted. |
| 01:02.29 | greycat | EvilDead`: because this is #debian not #knoppix |
| 01:02.34 | EvilDead` | ok |
| 01:02.44 | greycat | EvilDead`: Debian is Unix based, so I can ask Debian questions in #unix, right?? |
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| 01:02.54 | zyrnix | Shayde: I think there is a shell script that will download it for you. It comes with libdvdread3. /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh. I have never used it but I noticed it before. |
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| 01:02.59 | bob2 | greycat: Debian is riddled with SCO IP, so yes. |
| 01:03.11 | S0mac- | How can I boot my linux using a external( maybe the install disks) bootdisk? |
| 01:03.13 | greycat | bob2: not if you run 2.2.x |
| 01:03.15 | reaper` | haha |
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| 01:03.21 | greycat | bob2: or Debian/FreeBSD or Hurd... |
| 01:03.29 | some-guy | I am running a debian kernel-image of 2.6 and udev and I do not have entries for my cdroms or fd0, what can I do? |
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| 01:03.37 | peterS | greycat: oh, it's still "based on" SCO IP. just no literal copying |
| 01:03.38 | bob2 | hehehe |
| 01:03.40 | dondelelcaro | bob2: yerp... just run find / -type f |xargs grep smp|less... |
| 01:03.52 | sgeigerbot | S0mac-: Make your question a little more specific, and perhaps then some of the people here will answer. |
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| 01:03.57 | bob2 | dondelelcaro: heheh |
| 01:04.38 | talein | man I'm getting a lot of collisions at the hub |
| 01:04.40 | greycat | Y'know, here's what I don't understand.... |
| 01:04.56 | greycat | *why* did Caldera rename themselvers "The SCO Group"? The real SCO *sucked ass*! |
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| 01:05.10 | peterS | greycat: heh. because nobody liked Caldera OpenLinux much either |
| 01:05.14 | abrotman | because SCO was a more widely known name? |
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| 01:05.19 | sgeigerbot | greycat: If they live, I bet they go back to being Caldera. ;-) |
| 01:05.21 | talein_ | haha oops |
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| 01:05.25 | ohgoodgreif | hehe |
| 01:05.25 | yorkb | anyone here have a Dell e770s monitor |
| 01:05.28 | S0mac- | sgeigerbot, lost LILO (bad configuration). Had to 'fdisk /mbr' to use my windows. Haow can I set up LILO again? or junt boot my linux and reinstall it from there!? |
| 01:05.30 | greycat | abrotman: oh, in that case I'll just rename myself Stalin! |
| 01:05.35 | dondelelcaro | greycat: they must have bought into the no publicity is bad publicity addage... |
| 01:05.37 | everton | getting dpkg errors from "apt-get install xserver-xfree86", can anyone take a look at them, please? |
| 01:05.39 | carrett | hi, if i have an experimental line in /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-get install --reinstall -t experimental gnome should be enough for me to use gnome 2.6 right? |
| 01:05.41 | peterS | yorkb: why do you ask? I assume you're not just curious. what is your *real* question? |
| 01:05.42 | greycat | Stalin's a much better name than greycat because it's better known! |
| 01:05.55 | abrotman | greycat: well .. ok .. but i mean .. we'll still know you as greycat :) |
| 01:06.02 | abrotman | kind of like we all know SCO as caldera |
| 01:06.19 | talein_ | hmm - that's still a lot of collisions |
| 01:06.48 | sgeigerbot | S0mac-: Boot from anything that will let you mount the root partition of the linux install, use chroot to make / the linux partition's / ...and then modify /etc/lilo.conf, if necesary. Finally, do /sbin/lilo as root and reboot. |
| 01:06.54 | carrett | hi, if i have an experimental line in /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-get install --reinstall -t experimental gnome should be enough for me to use gnome 2.6 right? |
| 01:06.54 | bob2 | carrett: nope |
| 01:06.57 | carrett | bob2: |
| 01:07.00 | bob2 | carrett: stop repeating |
| 01:07.00 | dondelelcaro | talein_: if you're running stuff at close to linespeed and seeing alot of collisions, it's either time to get a switch, or clean up your wiring... |
| 01:07.02 | bob2 | jeeeeesus |
| 01:07.09 | carrett | bob2: sorry, what else do i need to do? |
| 01:07.13 | bob2 | carrett: /msg dpkg experiemtnal |
| 01:07.18 | bob2 | bah, spell it correctly |
| 01:07.23 | carrett | ok |
| 01:07.25 | greycat | bob2: heh |
| 01:07.34 | talonIX | dondelelcaro: it's weird - one install it won't be too bad, the next it will -- I've been thinking about going to a switch anyway though - they're not too expensive for a (5 or 6) port |
| 01:07.41 | greycat | "if you can't spell it correctly, you can't even *think* about running it" |
| 01:08.03 | peterS | greycat: interesting and not entirely unreasonable guideline |
| 01:08.14 | ohgoodgreif | oh, hello and evening greycat |
| 01:08.21 | dondelelcaro | talonIX: yeah, you can get sort of decent ones for less than $100.. could be your hub that's causing the issues... or it's nic dependent... |
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| 01:08.52 | talonIX | I hate seeing the collision light go solid cause I know I've lost tons of my bandwidth, and when you're transferring 5G, it adds up... |
| 01:09.00 | obake | carrett: there *isnt* a package called gnome in experimental |
| 01:09.07 | peterS | talonIX: definitely buy a switch, then |
| 01:09.13 | greycat | sgeigerbot: we're made this way. |
| 01:09.18 | obake | gnome is just a meta-package. you need to install the packages one by one, carrett |
| 01:09.28 | talonIX | it's not too bad at the moment - looks like morse code heh |
| 01:09.41 | carrett | obake: if i do a reinstall with experimental, that should take care of the packages, yes? |
| 01:10.03 | obake | carrett: why not apt-get -t experimental upgrade ? |
| 01:10.04 | peterS | carrett: you should not run experimental without the ability to answer at least some of these questions for yourself |
| 01:10.20 | carrett | peterS: what questions? i've only asked one. |
| 01:10.26 | talonIX | experimental is too dangerous for ME to run haha |
| 01:10.29 | peterS | carrett: experimental does not mean "fun to play with". it means "will often break your system in ways you can't fix if you don't know what you're about" |
| 01:10.30 | dondelelcaro | obake: uh, that's not what you want to do at all. |
| 01:10.32 | carrett | obake: because i only want to upgrade the gnome packages |
| 01:10.40 | dondelelcaro | obake: experimental conflicts with itself quite often. |
| 01:10.44 | obake | dondelelcaro: i won't :P |
| 01:10.48 | exobyte | does smbclient need to be installed seperatly? |
| 01:10.49 | obake | i've only got gnome from it |
| 01:10.50 | talonIX | carrett: grab sources and compile them then :) |
| 01:10.56 | obake | carrett: so hold the others |
| 01:11.06 | obake | there aren't many packages in xperimental |
| 01:11.08 | carrett | obake: good idea |
| 01:12.33 | sgeigerbot | talonIX: with cygwin? |
| 01:12.42 | alec | talonIX, service for unix? |
| 01:12.47 | talonIX | no - a demo of omni-lite |
| 01:12.51 | greycat | !sfu |
| 01:12.51 | dpkg | rumour has it, sfu is Microsoft's "Services For Unix", which is a misnomer, since it's really Services For Windows. It allows Windows boxes to do Unix-esque things, kind of like Cygwin. |
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| 01:13.14 | talonIX | at least I know I did have the server set up correctly and the problem I was having was on the client side |
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| 01:13.43 | sgeigerbot | greycat: have you played with sfu? |
| 01:13.58 | greycat | sgeigerbot: one of my coworkers has, and she dragged me in to help a bit |
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| 01:14.17 | alec | greycat, was it painful? I've heard good things about it, but I'm suspicious |
| 01:14.25 | aw | after my last dist-upgrade in unstable all users except root and another user which doesn't have any special priviledges are unable to login into X from within kdm, but they can startx from console, any ideas of what I can do? |
| 01:14.28 | sgeigerbot | greycat: I have been really happy to have copssh and cwrsyn for rsyncing online backups to some of my servers...for those of my more technical users. |
| 01:14.36 | greycat | alec: it's no Debian, but it seemed to work OK if you just want to do a few simple things |
| 01:14.46 | Shayde | hmm. anyone got ideas for performance tuning xine? i'm using the 'shm' video driver. dma mode for the dvd drive is enabled. i'm getting choppy playback - it'll play for 4-5 seconds, then hiccup, then 4-5 seconds, then hiccup. |
| 01:14.59 | mdhaque | hey, can anyone please tell me how can I change system default java to my new installed one? I want to create /usr/bin/javac and /usr/bin/java whereas my installatin of java 1.5 is at /usr/local/java/j2sdk1.5.0 |
| 01:15.03 | Shayde | i'm also running KDE and arts, would that really make a difference? |
| 01:15.04 | bob2 | Shayde: shm sucks, use xv if at all possible |
| 01:15.09 | ohgoodgreif | mdhaque: download better porn |
| 01:15.12 | Shayde | okay, lemme see if ihave it. |
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| 01:15.21 | bob2 | mdhaque: there is no "system default java". |
| 01:15.21 | greycat | mdhaque: just use /usr/local/bin/{java,javac} |
| 01:15.29 | alec | mdhaque, add /usr/local/j2sdk1.5.0/bin to your path |
| 01:15.33 | carrett | is there a way i can track when gnome 2.6 will be safe enough for sid? |
| 01:15.36 | mdhaque | ok |
| 01:15.38 | greycat | alec: I don't care for PATH pollution |
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| 01:15.50 | exobyte | I wonder how many time per day porn comes up in here |
| 01:15.52 | alec | fair enough |
| 01:16.11 | Shayde | using --video-driver xv gives me a corrupted display :( |
| 01:16.16 | Shayde | (basically 'no codec' sort of display) |
| 01:16.20 | sgeigerbot | exobyte: that's grep-able |
| 01:16.26 | Shayde | is the 'xv' driver an apt package? |
| 01:16.31 | bob2 | no |
| 01:16.38 | greycat | Shayde: it's built into the X server |
| 01:16.41 | bob2 | it requires support from X's video driver |
| 01:17.04 | Shayde | hmm. |
| 01:17.08 | Shayde | XVideo is listed in xdpyinfo |
| 01:17.17 | Shayde | that's it, right? |
| 01:17.18 | greycat | Shayde: see also "xvinfo" |
| 01:17.22 | sgeigerbot | Shayde: I get the same sort of hiccup from xine. |
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| 01:17.44 | Shayde | yah, xvinfo is like xdpyinfo :) |
| 01:18.04 | Shayde | though it's showing me xvideo specific info, sorry, yes, your'e right. |
| 01:18.24 | bob2 | eveyer moral has it's story, and it's conseeeeequence |
| 01:18.27 | greycat | Shayde: then your card+server/driver support XVideo. Good. |
| 01:18.33 | Shayde | www.homeport.org/~shevett/out.txt <-- that's my xvinfo output. |
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| 01:19.13 | bob2 | 402 N + Apr 04 Mollie Barber (0.4K) GET YOUR DRUGS Fron Canada Save a Bunch |
| 01:19.26 | greycat | bob2: like I don't already see enough spam. |
| 01:19.27 | Shayde | yah, doing 'xine --video-driver xv foo.mpg' is showing me garbage :( |
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| 01:20.02 | bob2 | greycat: I'm just amazed how much canada and illegal drugs have shot to the top of my daily spam load |
| 01:20.07 | cl1 | howdy folks |
| 01:20.20 | bob2 | exactly which retards in the US are buying prescription drugs from Canadian spammers? |
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| 01:20.49 | cl1 | i just converted an rpm with alien to a deb, i want to use dselect to install it, is there any special directory structure i need to have to add it in my sources.list? |
| 01:20.58 | greycat | cl1: just use dpkg -i |
| 01:20.59 | abrotman | cl1: use dpkg -i |
| 01:21.23 | abrotman | bob2: thats not a nice way to talk about geriatric patients |
| 01:21.31 | ohgoodgreif | question- i'm installing debian via a vm at the moment, once I understand it's workings, is there a way I might copy full OS configureation, then install via those settings, or should I just do my best to remember on the 'real' install ? |
| 01:21.35 | sgeigerbot | bob2: AOL users and antiknoppicists |
| 01:21.40 | Shayde | wait, something is really hosed here. |
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| 01:22.05 | cl1 | ok |
| 01:22.24 | abrotman | !hate FieldySnuts |
| 01:22.32 | FieldySnuts | :( |
| 01:22.38 | Shayde | bbiafew. |
| 01:22.41 | bob2 | sgeigerbot: anti-knoppicism is the fastest growing sport in .au |
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| 01:22.55 | greycat | !hate root |
| 01:22.57 | bob2 | abrotman: then make them stop spamming me! |
| 01:22.58 | alec | ohgoodgreif, i'd run dpkg --get-selections on the vm, get that text file, and then dpkg-set-selections on the native machine |
| 01:23.13 | ohgoodgreif | alec: aha, thanks you sir ! :) |
| 01:23.15 | abrotman | bob2: i can't .. they all have some damn virus |
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| 01:23.19 | greycat | ohgoodgreif: depends on which configuration you're referring to, really. |
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| 01:23.30 | alec | ohgoodgreif, that will save your installed packages, but you'll want to tar up your /etc, too, for reference |
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| 01:23.38 | ohgoodgreif | ok, will do |
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| 01:24.00 | ohgoodgreif | greycat: best i can explain, i think alec covered it- packages and all |
| 01:24.02 | FieldySnuts | heh I got a spam Subject: real looking fake rolex watches |
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| 01:24.16 | ohgoodgreif | greycat: i can prolly screw the rest quite well ;) |
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| 01:24.25 | alec | FieldySnuts, better than fake looking real rolex watches :) |
| 01:24.28 | sigjuice | hi |
| 01:24.43 | abrotman | beta3: by the way .. i disagree with your point the other night |
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| 01:24.47 | Zeeck007 | helo, |
| 01:24.52 | FieldySnuts | another i got was like "F*ck her in the ass, vi$g$ra" |
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| 01:25.00 | sigjuice | I just installed sarge. I don't get a login prompt. |
| 01:25.10 | abrotman | sigjuice: at all? |
| 01:25.11 | aw | is there a way to prevent certain users from using X via kdm? |
| 01:25.12 | abrotman | what do you get? |
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| 01:25.23 | Zeeck007 | como configuro o NetBeas |
| 01:25.29 | Zeeck007 | ops NetBeans |
| 01:25.47 | abrotman | !spanish |
| 01:25.47 | NewWorldMan | grub-install keeps giving me this stupid error /dev/hdb does not have a corresponding BIOS drive |
| 01:25.48 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 01:25.48 | sigjuice | I keep getting messages like. INIT Id "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes. |
| 01:26.00 | abrotman | sigjuice: /msg dpkg no dm |
| 01:26.04 | greycat | sigjuice: where "x" is a number? known bug. |
| 01:26.11 | sgeigerbot | What does "inheritance upward" and "inheritance downward" mean in the context of multi-user OSs? |
| 01:26.14 | abrotman | sigjuice: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 01:26.20 | sgeigerbot | ...and permissions. |
| 01:26.25 | abrotman | oh .. |
| 01:26.32 | abrotman | i htought that was X .. not "x" |
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| 01:26.42 | abrotman | sigjuice: ignore me |
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| 01:27.02 | tome | !loser |
| 01:27.02 | dpkg | i guess loser is Al Gore |
| 01:27.06 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 01:27.06 | tome | hehe |
| 01:27.13 | FieldySnuts | !lose Al Gore |
| 01:27.14 | greycat | !factinfo loser |
| 01:27.14 | dpkg | Al Gore: You Lose. |
| 01:27.14 | dpkg | loser -- created by sourdough <eb@134-pm3.nwc.alaska.net> at Sat Mar 17 05:06:45 2001 (1114 days); it has been requested 13 times, last by tome, 12s ago. |
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| 01:27.31 | obake | sigjuice: don't use getty |
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| 01:28.04 | FieldySnuts | :) |
| 01:28.05 | sgeigerbot | !dpkg biggerloser is W |
| 01:28.05 | dpkg | okay, sgeigerbot |
| 01:28.17 | sigjuice | obake: is there something else I can use instead? |
| 01:28.21 | FieldySnuts | ~spank beth|afk |
| 01:28.23 | apt | ACTION bends beth|afk over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on beth|afk's pasty white buttocks. |
| 01:28.29 | sigjuice | agetty perhaps? |
| 01:28.32 | greycat | dpkg, biggerloser =~ s/W/(W|Darl McBride)/ |
| 01:28.32 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
| 01:28.39 | FieldySnuts | heh! |
| 01:28.44 | dehgenog | is 2gig swap fine for 1gig ram |
| 01:28.56 | obake | sigjuice: yes, mingetty |
| 01:28.57 | FieldySnuts | it's a bit much, but you can use it |
| 01:29.07 | FieldySnuts | i use 2G on 512ram |
| 01:29.32 | RainbowW | how do i get dma support working under 2.6? (this happened under woody too) hdparm reports that dma on /dev/hda is off, with obvious performance consequences. |
| 01:29.33 | sigjuice | and there are no /dev/ttyX files. Is this a devfs thing? |
| 01:29.47 | FieldySnuts | RainbowW: man hdparm, look at -d |
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| 01:30.00 | bob2 | sigjuice: it's a known problem. |
| 01:30.10 | obake | sigjuice: just change /etc/inittab . Search for getty , and change to mingetty |
| 01:30.23 | bob2 | obake: do you really think that will help at all? |
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| 01:30.32 | beta3 | bob2: sup man |
| 01:30.34 | obake | bob2: it worked for me |
| 01:30.37 | FieldySnuts | !lart obake |
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| 01:30.53 | abrotman | not bad |
| 01:30.55 | obake | bob2: the problem is with getty, which is part of util-linux |
| 01:30.56 | bob2 | beta3: howdy. |
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| 01:31.22 | beta3 | bob2: morning there? |
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| 01:31.33 | rich_ | hi |
| 01:31.47 | doubleh1 | under bash, how do I build a for loop with i running from 0 to 1024 a simple way ? |
| 01:31.47 | bob2 | beta3: 1130, just abotu coffee time |
| 01:31.54 | bob2 | beta3: did you get your revlib going? |
| 01:32.02 | beta3 | bob2: yes |
| 01:32.05 | beta3 | bob2: thanks |
| 01:32.10 | mdhaque | hi, i'm getting this error after installing j2sdk 1.5... and configuring the paths... Error occurred during initialization of VM |
| 01:32.10 | mdhaque | java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object |
| 01:32.10 | mdhaque | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.16 | beta3 | bob2: libapache-mod-dynvhost? |
| 01:32.22 | beta3 | bob2: there is such a thing? |
| 01:32.26 | abrotman | isn't java1.5 a beta? |
| 01:32.29 | sigjuice | obake, bob2: I changed inittab. Do I need to reboot? I tried kill -HUP 1, but nothing happened. |
| 01:32.31 | mdhaque | yup |
| 01:32.31 | FieldySnuts | ~fuck java |
| 01:32.33 | apt | ACTION humps java's leg in public |
| 01:32.34 | mdhaque | that's true |
| 01:32.37 | beta3 | bob2: do you set it up via .htaccess files or something? |
| 01:32.43 | obake | sigjuice: you don't |
| 01:32.45 | doubleh1 | for i in `seq 1024` . |
| 01:32.47 | aveng0 | doubleh1: man bash |
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| 01:33.13 | greycat | doubleh1: for ((i=0;i<1024;i++)); do echo $i; done |
| 01:33.21 | obake | sigjuice: init <something_i_dont_remember> |
| 01:33.30 | greycat | sigjuice: telinit q |
| 01:33.30 | obake | sigjuice: think it's init q |
| 01:33.31 | mdhaque | this is the error in particular: java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object |
| 01:33.45 | greycat | mdhaque: #java |
| 01:33.50 | mdhaque | ok |
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| 01:33.56 | bob2 | doubleh1: for i in eq 1 0 1024 do echo $i ; done |
| 01:33.57 | bob2 | fgkfhsdjkghsdfkjh` |
| 01:34.11 | sigjuice | man page says SIGHUP has the same effect as telinit q |
| 01:34.14 | mdhaque | going to #java |
| 01:34.20 | obake | sigjuice: AH, and remove the 'numbers' in the getty lines1 |
| 01:34.35 | sigjuice | obake: which numbers? |
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| 01:34.59 | obake | sigjuice: 2:23:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty2 |
| 01:35.01 | doubleh1 | bob2: your one does not work . |
| 01:35.07 | obake | paste your line |
| 01:35.13 | sgeigerbot | greycat: just imagine this scenario: W did not steal with WH...and then M$ would be in pieces...and Darl wouldn't be on our radar. Sounds plausible, doesn't it? |
| 01:35.37 | FieldySnuts | !lose sgeigerbot |
| 01:35.37 | dpkg | sgeigerbot: You Lose. |
| 01:35.42 | greycat | sgeigerbot: no, M$ wouldn't have been "in pieces" even under Gore |
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